When was the last time somebody listened to you without giving you advice? When was the last time you did something for yourself that was purely to make you feel good. When was the last time you went to a spa? To indulge or ate really good food. My guess is that it's been way too long. Today, we're going to talk about what we need to give ourselves as moms that we're not giving ourselves. And it all starts with one word. Welcome to the mother plus podcast.
The show where we give you the break that you need mentally. And for the first time in person. Let's do this. Hello, everybody. And welcome to another episode of the mother plus podcast. I have my co-host step sitting right next to me today. Hi, everybody. We love being right next to each other. When we record, we really do. It's super special. It's our new favorite thing, especially during the summer when we've had our girls with us.
And there were a lot and we are just really enjoying our break right now. We are. Yes. So we are coming to you with a special Stephan stay solo episode. And we want to talk to you about a word that has been on our mind, um, for gosh months now, months since the winter. It's been sort of like. I don't know. What is the, you know, how people have like a word of the year that. Guides them. It's like a white house word. This has been kind of our word of the year. I agree. Drum roll.
The word is container. Which I know you're like, that's it. Tupperware container, like one of those big rubber made bins. No. We mean it and like, uh, it's gonna, we're gonna, we're gonna tell you exactly why container means. So much to us what it means and why we're kind of obsessed with it right now. So as moms, you know, you don't need to hear us tell you this, but we are constantly giving and giving and giving and going and going and going.
We had an episode, a ways back about information overload. And I feel like we tend to fill our downtime, quote, unquote downtime, meaning when we're folding laundry, when the kids are napping, when they're sleeping, when they're at school, um, with information. So social media reels, tech talks. Um, Pinterest audio books, podcasts, such as this one. Even when we're driving. Like, yeah.
Listening and learning while you're driving to and from kids' activities or dropping kids off from school, our minds are just constantly processing and being bombarded and learning and new information. Isn't inherently bad. Of course. But we've talked in the past about how all this information can make us second. Guess ourselves, how it sort of like undermines our intuition in a way. Yeah. Um, you know, that feeling of constantly working to better yourself.
Um, but in that other episode with the digital overwhelm, we talked about just how fragmented that can make us feel, how it's bad for our attention, which is kind of interesting because Stacy and I both have some issues with the tension. But so like, so basically we're giving and giving. Right. And what we're filling ourselves with is like more stuff that actually is draining us in a way, if that makes sense. So like, if we're a vessel.
And we're like, Like emptying ourselves, but what we're filling ourselves with, it's sort of like the equivalent of junk food, right? Yes. Like, we're not filling ourselves with like yeah. Sweet potatoes and cow. We're sharing ourselves with big Macs, right? Yeah. Burritos and Cheetos. It's not actually filling us up, but we get the feeling that it is because we're constantly consuming it. So we're all in this.
I mean, self-help, I feel like has really blown up and again, not inherently bad, but we're constantly trying to improve ourselves. We're constantly judging ourselves for what, what are we doing? That's wrong, right. And interestingly, when we did our Wu episode and we talked about like, there is a little bit of backlash against that wellness industry now, because I think that women are sort of at a point right now where we're like, we don't want.
Any more books or products or courses to make us better. We can't handle any more. We are full. Right, right, right. And, So what, what we've kind of landed on is that. Yes, there's, there's a degree to which improving ourselves and learning is great. But what, what we really think is that we just don't get that. Many opportunities to be. Our authentic, real selves to express ourselves. Show up exactly as we are without the apologies and the disclaimer. You know, right.
Giving ourselves that permission. That honestly, if we were to fill ourselves, rather than with all of the, how to be better, but just with our own selfness. Right. And give opportunities to. To show up as ourselves. To express ourselves authentically that that's, that's what we really need to be filling ourselves with. Yes. Yes. I love that so much. And. We don't. We. Because we are in an age of, of information. We feel that all of our downtime quote unquote free time should be filled with.
Information with improving ourselves. But what happens when we do that is we're sacrificing, like being with ourselves. I love that. Yeah. Yes. We're sacrificing being with ourselves and it's just like chipping away at that sense of enoughness like, when you are really being with yourself, the message you really giving yourself is like, I'm here. I'm fully present. I'm okay. The way that I am, right.
And, um, and I think that what we've, what we've come to understand is that less is more like, rather than, rather than women getting this guidebook for how to be a really well balanced self-actualized bad-ass productive, creative mom. What they need is just the fucking space to be themselves. And, and the people to be themselves with. Right. And when we're talking about containers, it's like, that's what it is. It's an empty fucking container.
It's not full of PDFs and podcasts and audio books and online courses. It's full of you. Like you filled the container. When women give each other that opportunity, like, here's this container, I'm not giving you anything. I'm not trying to make you better. Here's this space. Fill it. Yeah, just show up. And what happens when we fill the container with not just our beautiful selves. But other women and we can really connect and there's the expression and it's not bullshit. Small talk, right.
That's real talk, right. Right. And that's how we fill ourselves up with an empty container that we bring just ourselves to. Yes. Yes. That kind of gives me chills. And as a side note, I, I am just coming off of a bachelorette party weekend. And I got to be in a car with my best friend for about four hours, two hours there, two hours back. And I think of that car as a metaphor for the container we're talking about, because I mean, I've known this girl since seventh grade.
And when we're together, it's like, It's kind of like going back in time. However, we were still able to talk about our present selves and connect just like old days, but with our new selves and our new issues and. And I felt so heard. She felt so heard. It was the ultimate container. A lot of us don't make space or time for that anymore. Sadly. And it's interesting because Stacy's Stacy's trip where she experienced this was right on the heels of my, in my soul episode.
Like I went to Milwaukee with my brother and then I went to Iowa with my college best friend where I was able to connect with other friends. And it was the same thing because it was like this intentional time and space carved out. For nothing but connection authentically. And the way that you described it with, you know, this person, you have all this history with, but you're like what? We're still relevant. Our connection is still relevant. At first I know.
And it is it's, it's intense to be like, not everybody is going to go get a weekend with like this beloved. Old friend or family member, right? Um, so I feel like a lot of the struggle with giving yourself a container or giving other women a container, um, or just making an intentional effort as women to connect in a space together. Like. It comes down to intentionality. It comes down to carving out time and space, which we know is one of the most challenging things for our listeners.
We've talked about it so many times in so many different ways with different guests. And like when we talk about the mom cation, right? Like that is like, that's an extreme, like an extremely awesome, but also like not, everyone's going to be able to get on a plane and fly to the coast and stay at a resort. But we've talked about like the small steps, right? That the intention behind it and that if you can't do anything, but take five minutes, take five minutes. Right?
But I think what we're seeing here is like, when you're making the choices to like, do something for yourself. Yeah. Maybe sometimes skip. The betterment. And just stick with just you, you and, and other women. Right. And so we've talked about how important it is to surround ourselves with people that understand us. And this doesn't always have to be like your best friends or people that you have, like exact, like your goals don't have to be in alignment with each other.
You don't even have to be in the same life stage. Like right now I'm parenting a teen and a tween and Stacy has a preschooler and an elementary schooler. We can still connect. Right. Um, but just that being, there's something so powerful about being in community with other women who have the same intention, which is to dive deep with you to see you, to respect you, to support you and you and you for them. Yeah. Right? Yeah. I feel like this, this container isn't.
It isn't a new concept to us, but we tend to forget it when we become mothers, because we no longer prioritize ourselves. If you think about. If you had, you know, Uh, generally happy childhood. And you grew up with friends, you had all the time in the world to like connect with them. I was telling stuff that, um, my plane ride back, I watched, um, are there, God, it's me, Margaret, which is this coming of age? Movie that was based on, um, B um, Judy Blume novel.
And it just kind of brought me back to being a, you know, between teen and that time where that, that girlfriend bonding is so important and it's so pure and beautiful. That that, that you, you know, going to play are going to hang out together. Is you guys going to each other's rooms and saying, but boy, you have a crush on. If secret's so sacred and beautiful, we, we stopped doing that. We did. And it's, it's so interesting. I think about, um, I think, well, the babysitter's club.
And I've watched this new series with my. With my twin and we love it, but like you, I used to make clubs. Like we had a neighbor club and we had in fifth grade, this girls club, like you were always unintentionally making this container. this is our space. This is our tree house. These are the things we believe in. This is like our manifesto. Yeah, right. For us, it was, I don't know if you did this notebook. So instead of notes, we would have notebooks with our best friends.
So I had one with Kimmy Mozart. I had one with Jessica Bush and it was, it had our names on the front. We decorated it with stickers and every page we'd write a note and pass it to the other person the next day. And then at the end you have this beautiful book of. Twelve-year-old thoughts that I still have to this day. And it's just, God, I adore that some of the things you say are totally asinine, but like at that time it was so important and it was like therapy.
Like with your friend, you've just put out you pour down all your thoughts now it's the group. And now it's the 12 year old group tech, I guess. So. Yeah. Slightly flawed, but I'm also like, I don't necessarily love all of the things I read in my 12 year old group text thread, but I'm like, they have. Each other, and they're making this intentional, this is the place where we come and share, and it's really imperfect.
And sometimes just excruciating and sometimes a little unkind, sometimes really awkward, but like, but they're trying. And when you think about it, it's like you do this all through adolescents. Yes. Like if you go to college and you, and you get that beautiful privilege of living with your friends. Yeah. And then I guess I feel like even my transition to adulthood, my, my best friend of 22 years.
We would finish our day of work and I sat on the floor of my shitty apartment with my phone, with a long cord, my back against the wall. And she, and I would talk for hours. Like this was like 2001. You guys, I remember those days, I love long phone conversations. But who makes, I don't know. Maybe if some people do, who makes time for those long phone conversations once you're a busy mom?
No. They're literally like three people that I talked to on the phone for more than like, no, really just at all in general, like three people that I will have long phone calls with. The only time I do it as if I happen to be in a car by myself for a long distance. And then I'm like, I'm going to call Sally, I'm gonna call Monica. I'm gonna call him again. Um, so yeah, I think we lose it. We do, we do lose it because again, with the priorities and it's like, oh my God.
Remember way back when we were talking about the pick three, like you only get like career family and sleep or Cod, what was that episode? It was, it was a long time ago, but it's like that. I feel like when we are in this position of something's got to give yeah. What is it? Yeah. What we give up on is ourselves. And our, and our connections, right? It's like, because I need to get sleep. I need, I've got my job. I have my kids. I, I need to be physically fit. I. I've got house. How, how stuck.
My partner and it's just too easy. It's too easy to ditch it. And, and so we forget to ask ourselves these really important questions. Yeah. Like what do we want? What do we need? Like really, what do I really want and need? And then get quiet and actually turn into ourselves. And listen, so we can really hear. What the answers are right. What do we want? What. Do we need, like, when was the last time you asked yourself that question? Sure. Yeah me. Forget it.
You forget, you just, you forget, you used to, again, I think motherhood. Takes. You. It's like within the first moment of that baby coming out of you, it's suddenly no longer is about you, which is fine. That's natural. Of course you like your purpose is to take care of this being. But it never it's like, it never comes back for some people. It never your priority or your, your needs never come back. You just forget about them, right? Well, the needs are there, you forget that they exist.
Right. Yes, exactly. It's like this amnesia. And then we talk about coming out of Fogg's and some of us do it. Earlier than others and maybe some never do, but I think. What do we think about this? Like this space, this container, this intentionality it's like. Come step out of the fog. Like wake up. Yeah. Wake up and let's be awake together. Right, right, right. And one of my favorite practices is looking back at pictures of before I was a mom, not to return to that person.
But to remember what it looks like to prioritize myself. Yes. You know what I mean? Have you ever done that? Looked back at pictures of when you were before you were a mom in your twenties or something. And do you see the look in your eyes? It's totally different. Oh, you know what I mean? It's so vibrant. It's so excited. It's so like ready to take on the world. And then after kids. It's not that even if you would totally enjoy your children and you're on top of the world, that you're a mom.
It's different. It's a different, it's a different type of spark. It's a different type of a liveliness. It's a. I think that's, I think this is why I got so emotional when I was, when I was like traveling back in time and on my college campus and with people I haven't seen in 20 years, because I was like, oh my God, I remember. I remember why this was so special. I didn't make it up. I'm not glorifying it or idealizing it. It was real. Yeah, it was, it was real. Remembered her.
I remembered her. Yeah. and that, that is a beautiful, that is a beautiful gift. Yeah. All right. So when you do become a mom, especially when your kids are young, you tend to become very isolated. I personally was. I moved states, so it was very isolating for me. Um, we don't tend to be as close to our families as we used to anymore. So you may make mom friends. I had no issue making mom friends. I was handing out my number left and right.
But mom, friends and real friendships, real connections can be a very different thing. Right. You can just be mom, friends purely by the fact that you both have children, you know, that's all you have in common and that's all you talk about the whole time. And I do you, like, I remember the things where it was like, we would talk about like, okay, We're talking about our kids temper tantrums. Like how deep are we going to go here? Right. Are we going to be like, that was mildly embarrassing.
Are we going to go to the primal rage? Like I nearly had an existential crisis and nervous breakdown. How much can I trust this person? And like, are they going to widen their eyes? Yeah. When I tell them that I thought about just dropping my kid off at daycare and driving into the sunset. Right. Like who we've all had those mom friends. We know we can't say that to. Right. And then you find that gem of a person. Yeah. We are both people who like to go deep. Yes. Right?
Like the surface conversations, small talk, just like, oh, I've got like a hiking buddy and we hike and we talk about no, we'd like to really dive deep. Right. And I think that that's kind of an important element when we're talking about women connecting, When I was on my trip and I realized like, oh my gosh, these women, I haven't seen in 20 years, we still really truly have this closeness. And after 10 minutes, it's like, Here's all my shit. Let me see all your shit.
Like nobody is like, and this is so great. And I really love this and my kids are doing great. It's like, I don't know, but it takes, it takes something to get. To that level. And you do like, you do have worries after you become a mom about what you can talk about. And what's acceptable. So when you're younger and you're dating and you're talking with your girlfriends, you talk about your sex life. You talk about fighting with your boyfriend or what a Dick he was, and it's fine.
It's totally acceptable. You laugh about it. Maybe you're going to break up with them. Maybe you're not, I don't know. When you marry or you partner and you have children, it's suddenly not acceptable to be like, wow, me and my husband are fighting a lot right now, or shit's going down because you're, you have to feel like you're in a safe place to do that. That is not a conversation you're having often anymore.
And all of a sudden, you feel like you need to really zip up those boundaries, right? But then. You're shoving it down and you're not doing anything with it. I feel like you have these thoughts. You used to express freely and suddenly it's not acceptable to accept express them freely. So you shove them. That's what it is. And you have no space for them anymore. No, you don't. And, and you feel more and more isolated um, So.
Another thing that we don't do anymore is talk about our hopes and dreams. It's like we became mothers, maybe we have a career, a part-time job. Maybe we're stay at home. And when we get together with these mom friends, it's, what's the weather. What's your kid. Doing? What are they up to? And it's like strange. And I've done this before, if you've suddenly like, so I really want to be an entrepreneur. Or I really want to be a podcaster.
And depending on the company you're in, it's like crickets sometimes because they're like, I don't know what to do with that information. Cause I had never even considered starting something new at this point in my life. Right. You know what I mean? And I'm always been a dreamer. I like to surround myself with dreamers, uh, the girl who I celebrated this week and the bachelorette, her and I have always been like, what are we working towards? What do we want to be when we grow up? You know?
And we love talking about that stuff and I hope we never stop. I hope that we're 75 years old and we're still like, Oh my God. I want to write a book or I want to host retreats. Like i take for granted a little bit because i i'm very lucky to have some very very very close friends and that is a thing one of them the other day was just like I want to completely change careers right here at the halfway point of my life and it's like i am here for that i feel you.
you know but i don't think that's necessarily a super common thing It is that women are fighting other women where they're like Talking about the things they love or hate about their career or talking about what they want outside of their career or talking about the fact that they don't want to have like we're just not having these deep conversations anymore the ones that we used to have in our in our sleeping bags late at night when we were daydreaming with our friends You're just so right
about so many things there's a lot that gets lost As we grow up Do you guys remember mash M a s h or m a t h and then you'd put your future husband and your future house Then you'd circle I mean We're having one of those what are those little things that you do with Oh um fortune We're doing a gesture you guys can't see It looks really weird And who will put this on instagram You know that thing that thing pick a color pink peg and cat.
Pick a number 5, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5. you peel it up and it's like oh you're going to get married to travis wilson I just made that up Are you sure No, I'm a hundred percent sure Um i know but really we, we lose a lot. we lose a lot yeah as we get older and especially after we become moms yeah i think that did a lot of our kind of work right now is reclaiming some of what was lost yeah And maybe those are the long deep conversations with friends re actually talk.
talk about the real shit but again, when you're at the playground, you don't have a good sense of who you can trust with your. Your whole selfness. Yes, exactly. No. And this is where a lot of people would turn to therapy, you know, and yes, we are obviously very big about. Therapy therapy, but I don't, think there is a replacement for female bonding. Yes. I agree. It's different.
It's so funny because my college friends and I, we used to have our monthly brunch and someone's husband would be like, how was group therapy? And. Because that's what it felt like. I'm like, oh my gosh, I love therapy so much, but know that the being with other women who want to be open yeah. Who want to see you, who want to connect with you? Like, and you don't, and you have that sense of trust and you don't. You don't have to hold yourself back. You can just like.
Just exhale into each other, like, oh my gosh. Right. We think that's kind of what it's all about right now. So like, we've been, we've been. Playing with these ideas, like things have just been percolating, I think, for such a long time with us as we've had all of these conversations with different guests We had these episodes in the winter and both of them started to spark this container thing. Right. For us Jamie and. Jamie younger. And Jamie delude.
SHEEO uh, was the, is the astrological intuitive to active? And she hosts, what are they called? She hosted women's circles. Circles. Yes. Um, and that was one of the first things where we just like, wow, how beautiful. Like you don't, there's not some sort of formula necessarily. Yeah. It's providing a space in time. And obviously it's some like really wise and intuitive, facilitating, but she does right. Um, but, but just the beauty of it is, is sort of the alchemy of women coming together.
Right. And then Jamie younger, I think is when we actually were like container. Yeah, because her podcast is all about women's stories and giving women like a long uninterrupted stretch of time to tell their story. Right. That was so beautiful. Right. Which was so beautiful. What a concept, right. To have somebody. On and not ask them questions or give them feedback, but just let them talk. Right, right. And an image. I mean, this is sort of her legacy with listened to your mother as well.
I mean, and for both of us reading in it, experiencing it again, when we give women permission to just like take the stage with their gorgeous selves. Right. And then it's like, after all these conversations with all these dynamic women, something comes into focus and it's like, this, this is what we need. Right, right, right. Which is kind of, what's brought. Us to this very moment in our podcast, as far as like, what do we really want to do? What do we really want to give?
Sure. Other women, And so it's, it's brought us to our next big idea, which you might've heard in our little, we made a what's the word? Like a promo. Yes. Yeah. We're going to do a mini retreat. And as we were thinking about like, oh we, what can we teach people? And what do people need to learn? You know what that's when we were like, fuck that. We don't need to teach PE like we need to give the container.
We need to be the container, and we want you to fill the container with your vibrant, beautiful selves. And. We will facilitate an experience for you. We want to be in it with you though. We don't want to just be like, you're pour yourself a cup of tea where your host's like, we want to be in this with you. Right. And in real life. And so we're going to do an in-person. Mini retreat in September. Yeah. And we want women to be able to show up. To like. Close your eyes, turn inside.
Ask yourself those questions. What do I want? What do I need? What am I missing? Remember who you are, like, like sink into your own system and then be able to connect with each other. In a really intentional way. And we want to give you this beautiful, like, sort of in vocation experience, where we get to help you get calm and get grounded. And, and then we want to give you the time and the space to work on the thing you want to work on. And maybe that is just journaling.
Maybe it's writing poetry. Maybe your like, I'm going to write a screenplay. Maybe you are trying to build your own online course, or you have like this big work project or. Whatever it is that you want to work on, that you want to do, we want to give you the space to like, be creative, maybe completely alone, maybe with like some one-on-one support, maybe in the little group where you're reading your work to each other and.
I don't know, we want to give you that time, but also some extra yummy things for your senses. So we're going to be hosting this retreat and this beautiful place called nurture a WellCare marketplace in Denver. And it Steph and I have been multiple times, so dreaming. So dreamy. So if you are. A foodie like me or a health nut. It has all of the indulgences, the ashwagandha. It's like the ashwagandha stress relief coffee.
Like when you're like, should I, I really want my espresso, but I also need to calm down. Oh my God, I don't have to choose. I can have this. Gotcha. Or bone broth to go or like everything is gluten-free for me. I don't have to worry. And it's like, oh, it's so aesthetically pleasing there. The food is delicious. The air you walk in and it feels like they're pumping oxygen into the rate. So well, so like we're connecting with each other, we're getting calm.
We're all in our creative fire, but then you get to like eat delicious things. Drink delicious drinks. And luxury H we are going to also offer spa services, um, through this amazing aesthetician, um, who works out of nurture and she will be offering. Lip treatments, eyebrow treatments and facials during our. So you get to like actually do something. Yeah. Like kind of decadent for your, for your face. And so, yeah, so we are thinking that this is going to be just.
Kind of a glorious four hours together of connection of, of quiet internal time. Of grounding and intention, but also just like letting your senses, just be delighted for once. Right? So this isn't something where you need to fly on an airplane and, and devote three days to. A ton of money or like it's it's four hours, right? It's totally doable to doable. It's. And might I be so bold as to say. You can do this for yourself.
Yeah. And you should like, and I'm speaking to myself because I am the first to hear, say, Oh, I don't want to ask my husband for a whole Saturday, but it's, um, we're talking four to five hours here. That's not a lot. And of course, we're assuming we're talking to people in the Colorado area. Not that we wouldn't be honored to have. Nevermind what I said, get on a bride and come by and see us. Right. But, but we want it to be approachable because we know life is hard. We know life is stressful.
We know time is tight, but you can do this. You can do this. And. And we know what a challenge it is to take that step and say, I'm prioritizing myself. And we're saying, please prioritize yourself. Yeah, you were worthy just because you exist. And whether you join us or not, you need to know that you're getting. This, this episode will last long after the retreat. You are worthy of this. You are worthy of a container. You are worthy of female bonding and time for yourself.
You are a mother, but you are more than just a mother. Right. And. When you don't have that sense of self-worth that you deserve these things, you will give it to others and others can look like your children, your partner, the PTA. I mean, and that's what I've been doing. I feel like that is the reason I do this podcast is that I keep giving myself worth that everybody else. Right. Yeah, no, absolutely.
And when we give it to family members, Like I we've talked about inmeshment and all of that on like, when we take our self-worth and we hand it to our children that is a heavy and inappropriate burden for them to carry. Yes. And we're also not setting an example for them that says, Hey, should you choose to become a parent someday? Right? You don't have to be a martyr and you don't have to be a servant and you get to still feel whole and you get to be a person.
So like, if you can't prioritize your sense of self-worth. For yourself, like, think about that, that ripple effect that it has into our community. Um, but we want you to not be afraid of what will happen when you do step into yourself and ask for what you want, because you deserve time and space. You deserve to be heard. You deserve to be yourself, you deserve to just be.
And so if you're not in Colorado, like maybe this is your impetus to be like, Hey, I'm an upstate New York and I'm going to do this all day yoga retreat instead. Or I live in the Midwest and I'm going to go, you know, spend the day by myself in this cabin. Like whatever, whatever your container is, if you can't join us for our container in September in Colorado, find a container, maybe have a best friend girls night in where you just like. That it's, it's the new thing due to.
That's what I've been doing with my colleagues. I just did it this weekend. Bachelorette party, but why did I stop having sleepovers with my friends? I don't know. It's incredible. It's incredible. I've had two in. And since, uh, since may and I can't wait for my next one. No, actually I've had three. I love it. I love the girls sleepovers. It is like filling me up. So yeah, we, we would love to see you in person, but we also want this to be like a push for you.
To take some kind of an action and remember that it doesn't need to be like I'm doing this continuing education course, or I'm learning this skill or I'm making the time because this is important because I'm actually learning site. It's going to bring in money. Right. And make no smarter. Yep. Not about that empty space and fill it up with you. Right?
And for, for our retreat, we want it to actually be a starting point for those of us who are there in person, we want it to be a starting point for something bigger. Like we will plant seeds that you can cultivate and water and shine your light on, and then eventually harvest. And maybe that's a story or a poem or a book or a business plan.
We're a class you want to teach, or maybe it's just, I'm going to start a meditation and journaling practice, but we want that, that moment in that container to be the first step. So that you leave feeling like, you know, what the next steps are and that you have the confidence that you're equipped to take the next steps. Maybe your thing is just, I need to focus on me again and that's it. That's beautiful. Right. Right, right. Yeah. What's my body manifesto.
I'm going to spend an hour, what are the things that my body needs? And I'm just going to. I don't know it's about, it's just about tuning into ourselves and tapping into the, to a supportive community. And, um, and we. We just cannot wait, we cannot wait to do this. We are two years as of August. Into this podcast and it has been the light of my life. And so with Stephanie. It has changed. It has changed my life. It's brought me to some really powerful realizations.
And I think a lot of it has to do with giving ourselves permission to ask for what we need to admit what we need and then to take it. So we want you to do that too, to be able to actually meet some of you in person and spend time with you and connect. Not just through the airwaves. I mean, yup. So, okay. There you have it. Well, you'll be hearing a little more from us about our mini retreat coming in September.
And for those of you who were too far away, we're going to challenge you and inspire you and invite you to, to go find a container and, and fill it up with your light. Beautiful. Bye. Bye everybody. The mother plus mini retreat is official. Mark your calendars right now for September 23rd, 2023. Steph, and I are giving you full permission to carve out time and space for yourself and your creativity.
We are offering you a space literally and figuratively, a space to step away from your daily obligations and focus on you for a totally doable afternoon away. We provide the container. You bring your creative energy and true self come as you are. No apologies, no excuses, no disclaimers. For four and a half dreaming hours, we will be responsible to nobody but ourselves connect with like-minded mother pluses, meditate and ground together. Set intentions, enjoy holistic skincare treatments.
And farm to table food and drinks at nurture and Denver. This beautiful decadent, WellCare marketplace. And best of all, save her time alone to focus on whatever creative project is currently setting your heart on fire. Tickets are now on sale at the mother plus website. We'll put the link in the show notes. We cannot wait to see you there.