Susan Smith Seeks Sugar Daddy Post Parole, Man Wants Mütter Donation Back, Tori Spelling Eats Placenta, South Park Could Educate Med Students, Paris Hilton in Congress, and More!

if you do you even know about this story? No, I actually hadn't heard about it before, but I was thinking of kind of jealous as a true crime fan, like, you had a pretty good couple years in the nineties because when you were pregnant with me, the whole OJ thing was going on, right, and now this was happening, and the Menendez Brothers was happening, and Scott Peterson was happening. Yeah, there was definitely a lot going on in the news and when this one happened. This is Susan Smith, Yes,

Susan Smith. So you never you never heard I've literally never heard of this case, and I you know, this of course has many layers to it. So as I continue to read about it, I'm just like, oh wow, this crime's crazy. Oh wow, this is crazy. Oh wow, this is crazy. So basically highlights is this twenty two year old woman named Susan Smith. She had told police that this guy had carjacked her and her two children

were in the car. They were one of almost two when the other one was fourteen months old, so they were like really young kids. Toddler, Yeah, toddler's So for nine days, you know, she's like freaking out there searching all these neighborhoods, going door to door. Her and her husband are on the news pleading for these kids to be returned. After nine days, she finally admits no, she strapped them into her car and let the car go

into the river, essentially drowning them to death. Yeah, and this was you know, she had these news conferences all the time. I'm her poor husband because he had nothing to do with it, right and it. Yeah, I remember her being on there crying. But I was only what fifteen years old or sixteen years old at the time, and I remember being like, this lady is full of shit, Like she she just didn't sound sincere. So I kind of felt like something was up. Every time I was

watching these press conferences. Yeah, so I don't know what, Like, do you remember what made her finally admit it, Like did they catch her in the act? I don't know what made her admit it, but she said she was having an affair with a guy who was wealthy that didn't want children. Yeah, because when I was telling you the other day, I watched that documentary about that chick Cherry Peppini that kidnapped herself and she wouldn't admit it.

And finally the FBI was like, we have all the information that you did it, so like say it because we know you did it. Yeah. I don't really remember exactly what happened, but like I said, she was just like not sincere, So I think that, And she said it was like a black dude and they and it was just terrible how they went into like a black neighborhood and were searching house to house and everything looking

for somebody that didn't even exist. Yeah, like totally unnecessary on all fronts, right, and then these children lost their lives. So her lawyers during the trial, it seemed like they were trying to argue that she was having like postpartum psychosis or something, which made her do this, but it didn't really matter. And I feel like if that argument was in court today, it would hold up a lot more. But like in the nineties, nobody was really seeing that

argument right. Also, and I don't know much about this, but her kid was a year and two months old, So I don't know what the interval is of postpartum psychosis, but I feel like that's kind of late. Yeah, Like I don't, you know what I mean, Like you're kind of getting back to normal with your body at that time, So I'm not sure what the time period is, but I don't I mean, I definitely would hold more water now, but it's not like the kid was three months old,

do you know what I mean? It was, yeah, So I mean the jury wasn't buying it either. So she in nineteen ninety five, she was convicted to life with the possibility of parole. So now thirty years later, in November, she's eligible for parole. But of course that means she has to, you know, go to the parole board and

try to pleay her case and everything. The ex husband, who was the father of the kids does not want her to get out of jail, obviously, but you know, she with this potential of getting out, she's pretty confident about it. So she's trying to set up how she's gonna make money, and she's trying to reel in some sugar daddies and have phone sex with people to raise money so she could do that when she's out of jail.

The criminal justice system is just like everybody knows this that it's so fucked up, But think about this, like this lady killed both of her children strapped in a car seat and drowned to death. That must have been a very great death for them, by the way, Yeah, absolutely torturous, terrible, right, she and then she's eligible to get out of jail. She's young, Yeah, she's fifty two fifty. Yeah, she's so young, so she could get out of jail. But she wasn't young enough when it happened to not

know that that was wrong. Well yeah, I mean not like she was thirteen with two kids or something and you would think, Okay, maybe she's just a teenager and whatever. I'm really surprised that she got life with the possibility of pearol. I'm really surprised how confident she is she's gonna get out. But obviously like she ain't right because of everything that went down, and like so for three years she's been having phone sex with these people that

have been giving her money. One of these guys said he has like a bank account with over two hundred thousand dollars for her when she gets out. Well, this is what I wanted to say about the criminal justice system. So this lady's in jail for killing her children, Like, how is she even having access to these men? Where is she getting their their phone numbers? How she able

to call them? She's calling them on our dime as taxpayers. Right, all of these phone calls have been public information through the prison that she's in. But like, how is she even meeting people? That's what I want to know. I would really like to do an external exam on like relationships with people in prison, because as we see, this is really common. I mean recently, Gypsy Rose Blanchard had got married in prison. One of the Menendez brothers has

been married in prison. They get letters, Brian Coberger has fans, He gets letters, you know, like they get letters, they're able to call. And this article that wrote up about this woman's like a seemingly lucrative phone sex career for the past three years. You know, all prison phone calls are recorded, so they have recorded versions of all these phone calls she's having with these people, and it was disturbing. Yeah,

it's it's just weird. I just think, even if guys are messaging her in prison, how come we're allowing her to harry on relationships like that. It's just I don't understand it. I feel like when you're in jail, it should be like you're in jail, especially when you killed children, you just shouldn't have You shouldn't be allowed to like do that. I don't know, you shouldn't be able to

make friends. Like I could see maybe being allowed to talk to your mom or your family or whatever, but like you shouldn't be able to be making new relationships and being on the phone with people all day. It's just I feel like you give up that right when you kill your two kids and go to jail. It's just, yeah,

I don't think it's necessary. I mean, there's definitely gonna be an argument coming in about this that, like they're humans and they have human rights, so they should be I don't care, though, you give up your rights when you do something. Time two human lives, so therefore you should be stripped of some of your life and and being in jail is not necessarily enough. So my biggest argument is if she gets out, she's fifty two years old, Like,

why isn't she considered a harm to society? Like what makes what makes you think she's not going to do something like this again? Well if that if she was trying to kill her kids to start a new life and stuff. I mean, she's she's not going to have kids again. Maybe yeah, but what if she gets with somebody that has kids and they're like getting in the way, you know, Like I don't I don't trust this at all.

I don't either. I just I just think there should be a blanket rule like if you kill people in this not like self defense or or a mental health issue or whatever, but if you just kill people, you go to jail for the rest of your life. End a story Like why why do you get to have a new life after this? I just it doesn't make

any sense to me. Yeah, I mean these two and I said children are dead, Like she really doesn't seem all that remorseful, if I'm being honest, Like nothing about her does seems like she feels that bad about doing it, so like, I don't know. I made a note in the calendar though, because I think her hearing is like November fourth, So I definitely want to follow up with this. I would be surprised if she got out, honestly, but I mean knows, everything's crazy right now. So what exactly?

All right, let's get into celebrity news. So last week we had talked about that camper that had died at the you know, youth camp and Paris Hill and has been in Congress a lot explaining her experience with these camps, and she's trying to get these bills passed that ban them and make them illegal. Yeah, I mean, it's not just a youth camp. It's called a residential treatment facility for youth, which is just fancy words for saying that if the kid is acting up and being bad, you

would send your kid to this camp. It's like something your parents have always threatened you with, like sending you to boarding school or something because you're bad. And she was a teenager and was partying a lot at fifteen, right, she was drinking and partying and staying out all night. But I'm kind of like Okay, Well, when you're a parent of a fifteen year old, like, that's kind of your problem, it's not the kid's problem. Yeah, So like what she to still talk to her parents? I don't know.

So like her. She is a reality show called Paris and Love and it's on Peacock, So like, I don't think a lot of people are on top of that show. But it's actually one of my favorite reality shows ever because when you watch her interact with her family, it's not like this typical Bravo overproduced thing we're used to. It is so uncomfortable watching this family interact with each other because they're so emotionally detached from one another, and she is clearly trying to find answers like I wasn't

that bad? Why did I go to these camps? Or like I was did you ever think I was acting out? Because you know, I was raised by Nanni's and you were barely in my life. And Kathy Hilton is just totally when she brings it up, she just totally glazes over it and blames her, which just like I know, so regeus, Like she not only went to this one, she went to four different camps. I think about like a normal fifteen year old that's acting out is always acting out for a reason. Yeah, so like and then

like she's still taught. Like I understand that the parents don't know a lot about what's going on in these camps. I've heard interviews with with people that went to these camps, kids that are now adults that have went to these camps that said how manipulative they were towards their parents. Even they would take the kids and then they would call their parents and they would say, Hey, your kid might call you and say that we're locking you in a room and not letting you look out a window.

So if they say that, just expect that that's going to happen. But that's not really what's happening. So then when the girl would call her dad and say that, the dad was like, yeah, they told me you were going to say this, and I'm not coming to pick here, or somebody's monitoring the call, so they like can't be

honest about what's going on, because think about it. If the person at the camp is watching your phone call and you say, like they're hitting me, then there's going to be retaliation afterwards, or they're not letting you call your parents at all, or your parents think you're making it up to go home. Yeah, So she went to four different camps like this, and she was so abused there.

I mean, when you're fifteen years old, you're still a little you're a little kid still, even though you're a teenager, you're still child. And she was physically and sexually abused to the point where she didn't even want to go through a pregnancy and carry her own kid because she was so traumatized from it, which I kind of believe her, Like she was saying that they didn't let her look out a window for two years. No, this is the thing.

What does that do to a person? This is also why I don't think this show is so produced, because like this is a really big part of her life, trying to get these this legislation passed. And whenever she talks to her family about it, they get so massively uncomfortable about it, and her mom's always like, you are out of control. I don't know what you want to do. First of all, the girl was raised in a hotel in New York City, Like nothing is normal about that.

You're living in like a five star hotel. Your whole life you're raised by nanny's, you're in one of the wealthiest families in the country. Nothing was normal about her upbringing. Nobody's monitoring her behavior. What do you expect, Yeah, I mean this is this is apparent issue. Yeah, so she's going in my she's going to clubs at fifteen obviously because nobody's watching her, and she's like acting out probably, so then she gets kidnapped in the middle of the night.

Brought to these schools, The worst one, in her opinion, was this one in Provo, Utah, which I actually just went through. Did you drive through there on the trip and power? So the train went through Provo, And she's explaining in her documentary that this school is like in the middle of the rocky mountains, so like you can't leave even if you try to run away, you're going nowhere. It takes hours to drive there from anywhere else. So like if you leave, your risking dying in the wilderness

because there's like nowhere to go. So think about that.

The whole problem here is money, because let me tell you, if I was a little kid, and I was a little kid acting up right, my parents wouldn't have had the money to send me to a place like this first, and second, like I wouldn't have had money to even go to clubs or anything, because like when you don't give your kids money and they don't have a job, then they can't even do stuff right, Like what do you do when you have when your mom's giving you

twenty dollars for lunch for the entire week, Like you can't go out and party and do things like that. So it's one hundred percent of parenting issue exactly. So she went to Congress last week and was saying how she was sexually abused there. She was force fed medication, she was ripped by her hair down hallway strip naked. You know, she had a really horrible experience and this

all led to her like persona. So she said, you know, we know her as this girl that speaks in a really high voice and looks like a doll, and you know, people think it's really weird behavior. And when you hear her real voice, she actually has a pretty deep voice when she's talking naturally. And she has attributed that she put on this persona because she was in so much pain that she like basically had to force herself to live in this alternate reality. To like forget what had

happened to her. Wait, so in the cause, I you know how I chronically go through my phone with the volume off. I did see that there were a couple stories that said that people were shocked by her voice. Was she talking like in her regular voice in the hearing, Well, I don't know what the hearing. Yeah, I think she does at the hearing. But like when you watch her show, when she's talking to her husband, she's talking in like

her normal voice and to her sister and stuff. But when she's like uncomfortable or doing an interview, yeah, like that, it's like it's like this trauma response. It's very interesting. And before she came public with all this a couple of years ago, psychologists were coming out saying they thought that something might have happened to her because it was very unusual that she acted this way. So I'm interested that people were kind of like on it but didn't

really know exactly what happened. Yeah, and she's she's only forty three, so she's not that old that things were different back then. You know that it just it wasn't no, So, like, I don't know, I've been like really keeping an eye on this because their whole family dynamic is so beyond

fascinating to me, especially Kathy Hilton. And apparently this book came out a while ago called House of Hilton that like exposed all the family's like inner deepest secrets, and they worked really hard to get that bookshelve so like it's not that easy to find. I think people have it on eBay, but it's like hundreds of dollars and I kind of want to get my hands on them. Very interested in it. Yeah, I was thinking that's something

that's like right up your alley. Yeah. But basically, she's trying to pass this thing called Stop Institutional Child Abuse Act, So she's working really hard, like she is really taking her experience and trying to make a difference, which I can appreciate in the general celebrity culture, like they'll talk about it but not really pursue any further action. She is actively going to DC working with people to try to get these bills passed. So you have to respect

that on some level. Oh I I do. I think I think she's awesome for doing this because I wasn't even really hip to it. But when we were talking about this story weeks ago, I remember when with the kid in this camp, my first thought is like, this is this is child abuse? Why is this not considered anything else? Exactly. It's just so I'm glad because the thing is she could use her star power and people

will actually listen to her. If this was just a regular person, they wouldn't sitting in front of hundreds of members of Congress and stuff being able to talk about this. So it's great, exactly. And I even saw with that Netflix documentary that came out about another one of these school systems. They did a hearing about that, and she like, she shows up if they ask her to be in congressional hearings and everything, She's there, like she's not messing

around with it. So it's cool. All right, Let's get on to the next door. This is like Kardashian level obnoxious to me. We talk about Tory spelling. If we talk about the celebrities that we always talk about who are fucking annoying, it's definitely Kardashians. And then the step below that is Tory spelling always she she actually had another annoying article about something too that I completely forgot.

I forget what it is right now, but there was another article that I looked at and was just like, oh my god. So she has her own podcast, I guess, and she's talking about all this stuff. That's why. Yeah. So she has kids with I don't know if they're like officially divorced, but I'm just I'll just say her ex right, like they're broken up, her and her husband. So they have five kids. They range from seventeen years

old to seven years old. So she was on her podcast last week talking about how she has two placentas in her freezer, no idea which kids they're from, and then she has another placenta of her youngest kid in her best friend freezer. So her best friend has at least the placenta of at least a seven year old, like a seven year old placenta, and then the other two placentas are over a decade old. She's not sure

which two kids they're from. And it's great because she apparently her friend has like politely been like, hey, can you pick up this placenta. It's in my freezer and it's disgusting, and she's like, oh, I'll come get it eventually, but she never has gotten it. And she keeps saying like they say it's good luck to eat a placenta, and it's healthy for you and this and that. I love when people say they say, well, like who's who says that? Who says your your Hollywood friends or whatever.

So she hasn't gotten rid of it, and she but she did say that she ate one of her kids placentas, right, kind of calling bullshit on this because she said, quote, Dean's an amazing chef, Dean with her ex husband. So I mean it was like a little truffle oil, little salt and pepper. He cooked it and it was actually really good. Like I just I just don't believe this. No, people do know. I know people eat it. I don't believe she ate it. I just called bullshit on it.

And is it also not so Hollywood to like open your freezer and somebody be like what is that and you're like, oh, it's Torri's placenta? Yeah, exactly. No, I believe she did it. She's a total She's a total flake. I think that, you know, I'm way outspoken about this whole eating the placenta thing. I know that all these people say that there's health benefits, like it helps your milk supply and it helps with postpartum depression. And I

just think it's total bullshit. It's cannibalism. And we're not cats, we're human beings. We're not supposed to eat our placenta, us to put it in a jar like I did. Well, a lot of people on that. Hold on here it is guys. Check out the YouTube because this is a crazy person. This is this is Lucia's plasa. I can't wait to be like a normal person and just put it in a jar. Why would you eat it? Weird screen shotting this in me? This is This has to

be the Instagram post for this episode today. Definitely go to the YouTube and see this because you don't believe how this lady just casually pulls this giant jar of this placentis. I have another one to I actually tell the story of when we were moving and one of the jars opened in the car on my lap and for Melo, the splashing on my leg, it's not it was alcohol. It wasn't for meal, the hyde, for my god, It's just it was just regular old alcohol. It didn't

hurt you at all. Just relax. You were a freak. No I'm not. No, she is a freak. She eats it with truffle oil. So I just put it in a jar like it's it's here. I'm not doing anything weird with it. It's just sitting here in a jar. Those people today are like sending it to some place and they're getting them converted into capsules and then taking the capsules. But didn't we talk about Courtney Kardashian did this.

I don't know. It's just so dumb. It's just the dumbest thing ever, So I don't under if you if you, I feel like it, I actually want to know if there's real scientific studies on this or it's just like you think you don't have postpartum depression and a better milk supply because you took these pills. I don't know. That's all well, And how long does it take to get the pills? Like you have the baby, right, you have to send the thing in the mail, get the pills.

They have to freeze dry it, put them in pills, send them back. I feel like that would take a couple of weeks. Like it's not even help. How does one mail a placenta? Like, how would you even go about that? I don't know, because sometimes it's even a pain in the ass to get it from the hospital we would have at the couple hospitals that I worked at, which is hence why I have my placentas, because they're easy. As long as you say it's a religious exemption, they

can't do anything about you taking it. But they do. Really they're not happy about it because it puts liability on the hospital because people like let's say Tory spelling for example, not saying this with Tory spelling, just saying

in general, because other people do this too. Let's say that a woman has some kind of a viral infection like hepatitis C, for example, and then she brings it home and her husband or her boyfriend or her friend or whoever cooks it and eats it, and it's not cooked all the way, and now you're exposing people to viral infections, any kind of bacteria like it. It scares hospitals because they don't want people to be eating human tissue. It's cannibalism, okay, no matter how you slice it, no

matter what you say, it's cannibalism. All right, onto the next all right, freak accidents. I actually have a similar story to this. I don't even know if you know this. So a fifty five year old man got stung in the right eye by a bee, which, if that doesn't sound horrible in itself, just wait, it gets so much worse. So he goes to the emergency room, you know, gets all the work up. They think they removed the singer and that everything would be fine. So tell everybody what

happens next. So this is like a really good lesson for anybody that ever has this happened to them. Not that it's going to happen to probably anybody that's listening right now, hopefully, but really, anytime something happens to your eye, you should always try to go to an ophthalmologist to

get that taken care of if possible. We are blessed that we live right near Will's Eye Hospital in Philadelphia, but a lot of times people don't have access to an ophthalmologist, so they have to go to the emergency room. So the guy goes to the emergency room and the stinger is still in his eyeball and they pull it out. He goes home, and he's having pain and he's starting

to like lose his vision. Over the next two days, he finally goes to actually to Will's Eye Hospital in Philadelphia, and they put this special die inside of his eye called fluoresceine. And what it does is it lets the ophthalmologists know that the eye tissue is damaged. It turns it a certain color, like a yellowish green color. And sure enough, when they were looking at it, a piece of the broken singer was still in the eyeball and

that's what was causing the problems. And the reason that you should go to an ophthalmologist is because they know that if you get stung by a bee or I'll swell up and you have to do like special procedures to pull it out and use special tools under special microscopes to be able to handle this correctly and not have something like this happen because that you don't want to mess with your vision like that. It's it's really scary. And think about this guy had a piece of it

in his eye for two days. So when I was I want to say Lillian's age, mo, mom took me to the lake and we were at Antina's lake house and she had like rocks in the driveway and they were like, go get your bathing suit out of the trunk. So I'm walking with my eyes closed for some reason on the rocks, like that was gonna make it hurt

less to walk on the rocks without shoes. And I literally hit a beehive under the porch and I got stung in the eye and in the arm, and I will never forget that because it was seriously the worst pain ever and I was crying so bad. And then yeah, but it didn't sting you in your eyeball, not my eyeball, but all my eyelid, and that was like horrible in itself. I can't and that though eyelid sounds terrible, like I don't even want to wrap my brain, my brain around

the ball getting set. That's what I'm saying. Like my eyelid was one of the most painful I was, so I was such a little kid. This was like over twenty years ago, and it's like a memory that is so vivid that I cannot get rid of it. And I haven't been stung by a bee since, but it was such a horrific situation and I can't imagine it going directly into my eyeball and then not even like you go to the hospital and think it's taken care of oh no, it's like really deep in there. Yeah.

And when you when this guy had this piece of the barb taken or the stinger, I guess they call it out. It looks like a barb under a microscope. It is. It looks like a branch with a thorn coming out of it. It's it's just it looks so painful to think about that piercing your delicate eyeball. It looks absolutely horrible. And I don't know. On this article too, they had a video of like how a bee sting works, like a like an animation of it, and it was making me want to throw up. It was so horrible

to watch. Yeah, I actually I posted I made a post in the gross room called be aware get it like be wow, and I put I put the photos from this case in there because it's just really it's funny that you could look at a foreign body that's this a sliver of a hair, It's just this small thing and just think that, Oh my god, that thing is terrifying. Yeah, it's not like a giant knife going into your eye. It's just like this little microscopic piece of something. But yeah, yeah, I don't like eye stuff

at all, so gross. No. All right, So this next one, we had really horrible storms over the weekend. I guess they were just going all over the Northeast because I actually saw, like where the cabin is, they were having tornado warnings, which is really unusual for up there. Yeah, and then you know, it always rains really bad where I live compared to your neighborhood, which I don't understand. But every time it's raining here, I'm just like, oh,

this is just a normal summer day. Yeah. I think it's because you live a little bit closer to the Delaware River. So yeah, it's just just getting that. I must just pick up the water. But in Maryland, a tree had fallen during one of these horrible storms. Maryland's not that far from where we live, only about an hour and a half. But a tree had fallen down on the live power line and landed on a metal fence.

So let's think about new fear unlocked thisle this metal fence gets electrified because the live power line had fallen on it, which is something I would never think of. I don't know if you would think about that. I do think that if I see any wire anywhere I walk on the complete opposite side of the street because I don't know if it's live. I don't anything even if it's a cable cord coming because all of our wires, at least where we live, are all above us, so

they come down during storms. Sometimes you just see one from time to time. And there was one that was laying down on the street for a couple of weeks, across the street from the kids school. I don't even know why. I know it's probably nothing, like you assume, oh, this must be nothing, because it's been sitting here for a couple of weeks. But like the kids would walk to the car and I'd be like, go away from that,

Go one hundred percent, like get away from that. I just freak out because I'm because the story is like this, you just think, oh, with that thing is live, like it'll just hurt us, And I don't know. So power line falls on this fence, which is like a metal fence that goes behind several different properties. So then this dog is just like outside doing its business and comes close to the fence and gets electrocuted. The owner sees this all go down and runs out to help the

dog and then also gets electrocuted. They're both did. Yeah, it's it's nuts, but it is a good reminder because when it starts thundering, especially they say that when I was playing softball as a kid, or when when I would go to the public pool or something like, as soon as it thunders, you have to get out and go indoors. And there's really the same could be said for pets. There's no reason that there should even be a dog outside during a thunderstorm that has lightning like this,

so it's easily avoidable situation. That's one of the reasons because of lightning strikes. Obviously it could be a direction. In this case, it was an indirect strike, but still cause the death of the guy. I mean, it's it's sad for the dog, but like a human life was lost too over this. No, totally, it's just really sad. It's I don't know. I mean, this is always why

these stories are under freak accidents. Like I would never be like, oh, there's a down power line five houses down, let me not go near the fend, Like I wouldn't even think about it. So it's just yeah, if you see a down power line, don't go anywhere near it or anywhere unless obviously, like if your child is there, then you you do. But we hear this all the time, and especially when it's raining out too. The water conducts

the electricity too, so it's just dangerous. All right. Next, let's get into baseball stadiums, because this is something I'm surprised this is not happening more frequently. So we own to the baseball stadium like what like every week or every two weeks, right, and it's always you know, the Phillies are killing it right now, which like I'm proud to gloat about that. But because of that, most of the games have been sold out, which is like over

forty thousand people. So with that, all these people are always packing on the staircases and the escalators. So at a Brewer's game last week, there was like all these people after the game trying to go home and leave on the escalators and they are jamming as many people as possible on them, and then all of a sudden, this escalator has a malfunction and starts like speeding up and causing all these people to like fall down on top of each other, fall off the escalator, and eleven

people got injured. Yeah, it's it's really scary because I didn't even know escalators could go faster than they go. I mean, I guess anything could happen, but what would be the point for that function to even exist. Well, it might not, it might not be like a function. So they're trying to figure out exactly went wrong. Like everybody seems pretty stumped by this, So I don't think this is a normal I've heard. Yeah, I've never heard of that before. When I first read the article, I

I don't know why. I just like, escalator went over my head and I just assumed all those people getting hurt at once was the elevator like dropping or something, because that makes more sense. There's elevator injury, you know, injuries, and the elevators break all the time. But we just were there last week and to go unless you want to walk up the ramp, which we do sometimes unless it's like one hundred degrees out and you know, we just don't feel like doing it. We're trying to get

to our seat faster. There's always a line of hundreds of people to get onto the escalator, and there is a guy that's standing there that counts how many people are going up and then stops it. But still so there has to be some kind of weight restriction. Sty'll think about it though, Like there's probably at a given time on they're really big escalators, fifty plus people on them at one time. Oh yeah, but I mean they they clearly could accommodate that. It happens all the time.

I mean, we never heard of anything like that happening. And I guarantee you I was thinking that, like, next time we go to the Phillies game is going to be like some kind of new the MLB is going to put like some kind of restrictions out about how many people can go on because of that. Oh my god, because that could have been like serious because at least the elevator, the escalator that we go on goes from the first to the second tier. But it's a large distance.

It's not like the one that you would see in the mall. It's double the size of the one at the mall, you know. And I think they were able to prevent more injuries because it seemed like the person like manning it at the bottom hit the emergency stop button as soon as it started happening. Well, we have guys, you know, Santa Claus. Yeah, we say every time that

we go. There's there's a guy that works at our escalator that looks exactly like Santa Claus and he always wears red for Phillies, so and he's been there for years. But like that's why they're there, probably in case something happens like that that they're able to do that. But just being up that high thinking about falling off of the side of it or something or down it is scarce the shit out of me. Yeah, one hundred percent, because what are you gonna do if it starts moving

really fast and you're like trampling other people. It's scary. Yes, well, really, the elevator has been closed until investigation has been do. Escalator escalator escalator, escalator has been closed until they figure out what happened because obviously they don't want to risk it again. So you might be slightly, but like what are they gonna do to get all those people upstairs? Everybody's not gonna walk up the door, so that one's

just gonna have to be out of commission. Yeah, well, is that it's there only one at ours or there's one other on the other side. I think there has to be because of like emergency exits. And stuff. Yeah, I don't think you're supposed to use escalators during an emergency. Well, you know, I'm trying to say, there can't just be like one that goes up and down. There has to be multiple sets of stairs and everything, so people are

either gonna have to walk. That's what sucks. It was like on the highest level of the ballpark two so people that have seats up there are gonna have to walk up all those steps. Yeah, no thanks, Yeah, all right. So next a man had gone to the hospital saying his nose was bleeding for a couple of days and he felt movement up there. Don't you think if your nose is bleeding for like a couple of hours, you

would go No, I don't think so. I think people some people like Lucia has nosebleeds all the time, and yeah, but they Gabe over reacts to them. We don't. Actually, we should tell this story that one time. So we were we were in Washington, DC on like a little mini trip, and we were sitting around watching a movie. We were watching some lame movie. Oh, we were watching

National Treasure, remember us. And then Lucia had went in the other room and she was like, what she made this noise of like why nose is bleeding, And she came out of the room and she had a towel under her nose and it was I mean it was a lot of blood and pushes off the couch like the mom and meet the parents diving into the pool. Yes we should. We were like you know that part and meet the parents when the mom jumps in the pool and he was like he's like no, he like

he didn't remember. Then we found a video of it. We kept sending it to him. We were like, that's what it was so ridiculous. We're like, relaxed, dude, She's just having a nosebleed, like she cut her hand off or something like her noses baking. Chill out. So anyway, yeah, so she her not She'll come down to be me every once in a while and just say like, I'm having a nosebleed. And I think there's some people that just have them a lot that they kind of don't

think anything of it. I mean, last for hours. No they don't, but listen, like I'm not. There's more parts to this story that I wouldn't do if I was this guy either. So people do what they're going to do, like, all right, what are you gonna tell everyone what was causing it? All right? So this guy had apparently been taking a bath or a shower I guess, in a waterfall, and he he went in to the hospital and they went up inside his nose, and of course they found

a leech up there. Yeah, typical finding when you just like looking into a patient. But well, I think when people go into natural water to especially to take a bath. I mean people do it, especially, even people do it if they're hiking or anything like that. You get leeches on the outside of your body. It's kind of a normal thing that could happen, but for it to get inside of your body is not commonly seen in medicine. And leeches they can kill you. Actually, aren't they pretty big?

They're pretty They can get big when they're engorged with blood. But they not only if you add a lot of them on you, they could make you anemic. But on top of that, they have saliva that like numbs the area of where they're sucking, and that could cause issues

with the way that your blood clots and everything. And the grossest part really is that they carry disease like they they can have have HIV and hepatitis B in their bodies for like five months, don't Can you go to some nail salons and get some like leech treatment on your feet? Yeah, I mean they do, they do leech therapy. I actually have a bunch of leech stuff coming up in the gross room. That's that I have set aside in booked marks of really good pictures and stories.

But yeah, they do leech therapy. They do do it sometimes, like if you have gangerine, they do it to clean out the wound. They do it in hospitals under you know, supervision, and they work well at cleaning out good wounds and really like pulling blood to the to the source to help it heal, Like especially when you have gangreene and you have a hard time with oxygen getting to a part of your body, it like pulls oxygenated blood to

the source to help it heal. But they're just they're just it grosses me out, you know, to think that the thing was up inside his nose because it could have went into his brain, Like, I mean, your nose is like a direct access to your brain. Like, dude, you feel that thing going up there, like he'd well, he didn't. He might not have felt it going up there, but he felt it moving around, uh, which which just

freaks me out. But listen, like, if this guy was taken a bath in in a waterfall, like, chances are he wasn't near any kind of like civilized medicine, you know what I mean? Like, maybe I don't know, he could have been in a super low socioeconomic area that the nearest hospital was twelve hours away. I don't know. Well, it seems like the doctors were able to successfully get it out, So yeah, and he's fine, He's okay. This

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it is too. So this lady brought her eight year old to work with her, and I don't know if she wasn't allowed to bring the kid in or she didn't want to bring the kid in, but she thought it was a good idea to leave this eight year old alone in the car, which it's never okay to leave a child alone in the car in general. So I don't know what was going on with that, and then on top of it, it's like a ninety four

degree day. But she decides, you know, I'm going to turn the air conditioning on so this won't be a problem, and the kid will text me every couple minutes or so and I'll check in. That's I'll check in. So after this, lady doesn't hear from the kid for an hour and a half, which is a really long time to not hear from the kid that's in the parking lot.

She goes out and then sees the kid's unresponsive and foaming at the mouth, breaks through the car with the hammer, realizes the air conditioning's not on anymore, and starts freaking out out and drives to the hospital. She doesn't get all the way to the hospital before she pulls over. It calls nine one one, They come and see the kid, and then she's finally brought to the hospital and then

she's pronounced it. This is like really an upsetting story. Actually, I feel like it's more upsetting than the typical grandfather leaving the kid in the car, because I think there's a lot that goes on with this story, especially because

I was a single mom. I think this lady's probably a single mom, and it's the summer, her kid's not in school, she doesn't Camp is expensive, so a lot of people can't afford to send their kid to camp, and she's got this kid, and she might still have to go to work to pay for the rent and to pay for food, and it's It doesn't say where she was working, but if she worked. She liked that Amazon. Okay, so you can't have a child in Amazon? Yeah? Right,

it was like an Amazon warehouse facility. Yeah, so she couldn't bring the kid to work with her, Like, I mean, think about this, how many times did I bring you to work with me every day in the summer because I didn't have anyone to watch you? Like, yeah, that's that's what happens. I mean I would I would have found something else, but I didn't have a couple thousand dollars laying around to pay for camp or to pay for somebody to babysit you every day when you weren't

in school. So she brings the kid to work, leaves the kid in the car, probably with their iPad or a phone or something, so they were entertained all day, and left the air conditioning on, thinking that the kid would be safe. It's it's so crazy because last week I was just like, does this ever happen to women? And then sure enough this news story popped up, and I thought, let me read about this because there has to be more to the story, because usually women don't

forget their kid in the car, and she didn't. Well, yeah, it's just really weird because she like knowingly set up the situation and then she was telling the police that she thinks the kid turned the air can off because she was too cold. But then I started thinking about how my car automatically turns off after an hour. And let's say, for example, that this was you and your car right and your car turned off after an hour like this kid's Lucia's age with Luccia know how to

restart a vehicle to turn it back. But it could have been that. No, but at the same time too, it could have ran out of gas. Yeah, like I mean, like, how how long was the kid? I don't think I ran out of gas because the mom like was driving around after trying to run into the hospital. But oh okay, so yeah, I mean there's there's all different things that could happen. But I don't think that there's anything like

shady about this story that the mom at all. I just think that it was a desperation thing and she

just didn't she just didn't think about it. But you just have to keep in mind that there are people that don't have what we have as far as like there's always a friend that could do this or a family member, and it's just it's kind of like a really shitty situation that a lot of people go through, especially when they use school not only for education for their kids, but like as a babysitter while they go

to work. But go back to what you said earlier too, about when you were raising me, So like what if you brought like I remember going to college classes and stuff with you, and like going to work with you, Like what would have happened if you're if your employer was like, she can't be here, you have to leave, and we're not paying you for the day. I would have borrowed money off of somebody and figured out to

send you to camp or something. I don't know, no, but I'm saying like that's not just one for everybody. So like this seems like a pure act of desperation, like you could do nothing else, right, Yeah, I mean listen, sometimes you hear stories about this that like the parents leave the kids in the car to go in the casino or something. Yeah, like she was she was going to work. Do you think she wanted to be at

work at the amaz warehouse? No? Like yeah, so like but maybe even she had a babysitter and last minute the babysitter fell through. I'm not trying to justify it. I'm just trying to I'm just trying to talk about how terrible of a situation this is all around. And an eight year old like Lucia's nine, so she was just eight, right she she she probably I don't know how she didn't even think to just open the door and get out of the car. I don't know. I mean,

any day is like really hot. Like I think it just happened so fast that like the kid might not even realize. Yeah, I'm not sure exactly what happened, because it's i just feel like just I mean, just knowing how Lucia is and stuff, I feel like she would call me and say, hey, I'm i the air turned off or it's too hot. But maybe maybe the kid was cold and took a nap even and and then just it went down fast. That's what I didn't realize

it because she was sleeping. I don't know. That's like kind of what I'm thinking, like she fell asleep or something, and it just I don't know, like that's the only reason I could see this going down. And like not to sound like not to be like this, but like Amazon can't have like childcare at these facilities. Well it's it's but that's I don't know what the solution is because it's not Amazon's a private company. It's not their problems. I'm not saying the problem hire someone that doesn't have

kids and then you don't want to. I'm not saying I don't want their fault this happened. I'm just saying, like with all their resources and everything, like I don't know, I just I feel like most places are not okay

with you bringing your kid to work. Like I really lucked out with it being able to bring you to the hospital and you were a little bit older, and I was able to sign you up as a volunteer so you could kind of like kind of hide me in your office, so like that was kind of a difference, and they were kind of like okay with that, But I worked in the lab. Like if I worked as a nurse on the floor, I wouldn't be able to bring you to the hospital. So it's this is what

I'm saying, Like, it's just it. I feel like it happens to a lot of people. And we're lucky in our town that we have a camp at least for a couple hours a day, that's like pretty affordable. But it's only for three hours a day. So who could do that when they're working a normal full time job exactly. I mean people she might be from out of the area and not know anyone around here to watch your kid. It's just it's just so terrible. It's so sad. I mean,

the kids like him, what second grade, it's terrible. And I don't think they based on her charge so she was charged with involuntary manslaughter. I don't think based on that that they think she intentionally did it, but like somebody has to be responsible for it happening, so and it's it just it just yeah, I don't know, it doesn't there's a lot of times when this happens that like with that one dad that you're just like, good,

he should go to jail. He's a scumbag. And like, I just I feel like this mom is is probably really devastated and on top, but that it was like kind of just circumstantial. Yeah for sure. Well this next one makes me really sick as well, because I could just so easily see us being in this position. So last Friday, around four thirty pm, this chick who's my age went to just go get her nails done. This is something we do every couple weeks. She was going

to a wedding the next day. She was just trying to, you know, like do her thing. So she was an NYPD cop and she was getting her nails done for the wedding of another police officer. I believe her husband was also a police officer. So she's in this nail salon, which was in a strip mall, and a bunch of other customers or employees are there as well. You know, a Friday afternoon night at the nail salon is like, oh,

it's busy, Yeah, it's really busy. So at the same time she's getting her nails done in this parking lot of this strip mall, this guy is seen like driving around like crazy. He's yelling at people. This woman was seen screaming at him because he almost hit her in the parking lot. And then within seconds of that lady screaming at him him he plows the car through the nail saloon. Did they say he did it on purpose or it was because I know that he was drunk.

But was it just he didn't aim for a parking spot right or did he intentionally try to hurt people? I I'm not really sure. Like he it's seeming like that he was just driving around acting totally insane. Just I don't know he had he had eighteen beers. It's outrageous, it is. It's so scary to think that somebody that drank something like that would get into a car and drive. It's so I don't know how you fix this problem. I just I don't know how you prevent something like

this from happening. He killed four people. So four people are dead, nine other people are injured. One of them was a twelve year old girl, probably there with her mother, right, So like you just have you have a kid just there trying to have a good time, and like these people have lost their lives for no reason. Everybody's families are devastated obviously, Oh shocker, this guy had a DWI before. Yeah, well and what like how the thing is is, did did he have a license? Was it taken away? It

was taken away, but I think temporarily. Yeah, but even if it was, it doesn't matter. It's a piece of paper. The punishment, it doesn't matter. Not enough, Like I am sorry, we are talking about this every week. It is just not enough. It's it really isn't because now it's what's happened. Now he killed four people, What's he gonna go job

for like three years? Like that's what I foresee happening, right, because even when people kill people when they're drunk driving, I feel like the punishment is less severe than if you have a first agree murder drug. And it's it's like the So this woman that got killed the cop, she's she's just got married. Yeah, she's exactly in my position. She just got married last year. She's my age. And then the other three people that got killed were employees

of the now salon. Typically a lot of times they hire people or their friends and relatives. So this this business is having a loss of three of their Yeah, not just employees, but possibly family members or friends as well, and like it's like, oh, this guy just looks I can't stand his face in the picture of the article. Like I just have a specific like distaste for people that drive drunk. And I mean, it's just the most

selfish thing you could do. I just don't. You sit here and you hear about this stuff all the time and you're like, what could we have done to prevent this? I don't know, because like, if you're in a house with a car that has keys, how do you prevent someone like this from getting in the car? You can't. In all cases, you can't. There's nothing you can do

about it. Like you could try to monitor somebody. And like if honestly, if he was at a bar drinking this much, the bar has some liability as well for overserving, so you have to think about that. I mean, I don't know for a fact, if he was out, he could have very well been at home and drank that much and went out. If he drank eighteen beers at a bar, it would cost a lot of money, probably me alcoholics have the money. When they would have the money.

So I worked in a bar for a long time, and you would not believe the amount of money spent. I mean, we had this one lady come in every single day for happy Hour and she spent over one hundred dollars just on drinks every single day. Think about that, Well whatever, I mean, this guy's just like such a scumbag, and I just feel another story. I just feel completely terrible, totally senseless. Didn't have to happen innocent people. It's always it is always people that are innocent getting killed and

the drunk drivers are surviving. Always, yes, all the time, it's out of control, Like it doesn't even make any sense to me. It's disgusting, it really is. All right, let's get into some medical news. Would you ever take medical advice from a television show, let alone a cartoon?

Which cartoon South Far Oh? Yeah, South Park is pretty like genius sometimes, honestly, Like I've that show came out when I was seventeen years old or something, and it's it's very well written and it and it's written smart. It's it's written smart, it's very I don't watch it now, I haven't watched it, but I see clips from it from time to time, and I'm like, these guys are geniuses, with comedy sometimes well those same people. I'm not, like, my husband's going to be rolling his eyes at this.

I like, I'm not into cartoons at all, Like shocker, I'm a fun sucker. I know I suck, but you don't go outside. I don't go outside, but I don't like cartoons. So like, he watches it and I'm just like not interested in it at all. But they, the creators of it, wrote this musical called The Book of Mormon, which is like a South Park version of explaining what Mormonism is. And it's like one of the most genius things I've ever seen in my life. So I do

respect for their writing. It is really good. But in this case, this doctor is suggesting that this one special South Park did could be extremely helpful to medical students, so explain why. So it's called the End of Obesity Special, and it seems like it's about people like what's going on in healthcare right now in the modern world, which is all of these people have obesity and they go to the doctor and they want to get ozempic, and

they can't get ozempic because everybody wants it. Even though it seems like it's pretty easy to make and it's very inexpensive to make. It's very expensive in this country to get it. It's always sold out, and they first they say, oh, well, we're going to prescribe to you instead, Lizo. So so Lizzo did a TikTok or Instagram video because obviously, like people make fun of her and stuff all the time.

So she was like, so why people came to me and said that I'm in an episode about obesity for South Park And she was like scared to death to watch it because you know it will rip her apart. And she watched it and she actually wasn't like super offended by it because they were saying, oh, we're going to give you this prescription for Lizzo. You're going to take it and you're actually going to feel good about your body and you're not going to feel like you

need to take these drugs anymore. And it just was kind of a play on how ozepic somehow costs so much money here in America, where in other countries it's not that much money or hard to get as it

is here, and how American healthcare is just terrible. So well, what I also thought was genius of this episode was that they are saying, like, isn't it ironic that America has the biggest obesity problem, but the drugs are the most expensive, So like, you're causing this problem, and it's like, clearly something's happening here that makes this such a problem in this country specific and then you're going to skyrocket the price of the meds to fix it. Yeah, exactly,

it's a problem. They created that. Now they're trying to act like they're doing something to fix it, but they created it. And you could see why this person is saying, oh, they should they should let all medical students see this because it is a pretty accurate description of what's going

on in America as far as healthcare. Yeah, so there was a quote, actually I pulled from Kyle that said, we have sugar companies, pharmaceutical companies, and insurance companies all just trying to figure out how to make money off our fucking health It isn't fair to put the blame on anyone for their weight, which, like, how crazy that this like cartoon that people think is so ridiculous as

making the most valid points about our healthcare. Sysame they have that, But this is why I'm saying that it's that's written very well because they have this with all different topics. They just kind of like put these lessons in and they've been doing that since I was a kid, you know. Yeah, that's why I think it's pretty good

for the most part. Yeah, for sure. All right, So this next one I consulted my tattoo artist's friend, Rachel Shelley about, and it's a little controversial with the people in her shop, So I'll get into that when we start talking about it. But basically, like so many people have tattoos. Obviously, we both have tattoos. I'm sure everybody that listens knows that. So they're saying about thirty two percent of Americans have at least one tattoo, with twenty

two percent having two or more. I mean, that's a lot of people that have them. So now over a third of seventy five tattoo and permanent makeup inks from popular brands were tested and showed in this new study that a lot of them have bacteria. Yeah, so this is when you get a tattoo. It's it's it's a pretty picture that you get put on your body. But I always say this that it's kind of a medical procedure. You're giving yourself a very deep abrasion all the way

into the dormis. And when you have a needle that is puncturing in and out of your skin, it can carry in what it's carrying the ink in, but it all so could carry in bacteria. And these inks were found to have both aerobic which means that these bacteria need oxygen, so they would live on the surface of the skin and they need oxygen to survive. But the more alarming ones that they found were the anaerobic ones

that don't require oxygen. So if these bacteria are getting injected into the dermis where there's no oxygen down there, they're able to grow and it's deep in the skin and it could cause serious bacterial infections of the skin. Normally, when a person gets a tattoo, the most common complication is an allergic reaction to the ink or some kind

of immune response to the ink. But they're seeing an increase in bacterial infection, so they're trying to figure out like, is this just because of poor hygiene or poor application from the tattoo artists that are not cleaning properly in between. For example, I always thought it was weird that when you get tattooed that they use a regular paper towel off of the shelf to wipe because that's not sterile, right, Yeah, so they're they're you're and you're going to get bacteria

anyway because your skin has bacteria on it normally. And do they ever use an antiseptic to clean your skin off? Really not like not a good whatever that green soap shit is. I don't even know what that is. But yeah, they definitely don't use what they would use to do

a medical procedure, so they're not sterilizing the skin first. Yeah, so what So I sent this to her this morning because I was like, you know, I want to I want to look out for my friend and make sure she's like not using these products, right, And she was like, I find it really suspicious that they're not listing these brands that they're allegedly testing, because like, I want to know as a tattoo artist if the inks I'm using are effected by this, right, And then she so then

she asked everybody she worked with at the shop and they were just like, this is a conspiracy theory, and there's so much alcohol in most of these inks. That, like they just find it hard to believe. But I was interested from a scientific standpoint, like what you had to say about it, because I'm asking them on their front as being the people actually using these products, and

they're hearing nothing about this. So well, I just look at it as being if you were going to go let's say you were going to go get a mole, a mole removed, a benign mole, even you're going to go to the dermatologist and get it removed. They're not going to go and first they're going to sterilize your skin like you would get before surgery, right yeah. And then when they're doing it, if you started bleeding, they wouldn't take a paper towel off of the shelf and

start wiping. So you've broken the sterile environment, right yeah. So all all we can say is that bacterial infections are increasing and they're trying to find out why. So I think it's a combination of things, like these inks aren't FDA approved, So you could have all the faith in these products that you want, However you don't know what's in it. That's the thing, Like you think, Okay, this is a company I get for all the companies can really just put whatever they want. They can put

whatever the fuck they want in it. There's no regulations because it's it's it's the same regulations as makeup, and you can get makeup off of Amazon right now that has lead in it from China. Like, yeah, there's no regulations. So just because the company is saying that it's sterile and they put a little plastic wrapper on it, you don't even know, like nobody's monitoring them to package these things, to even make sure they're putting them in sterile bottles.

And I'm like one hundred percent know how this works as I worked in microbiology for a while and it's very hard to just work in a sterile environment because everything you touch has bacteria on it. Yeah, you know what I mean. So you just have to think, like are the people are the people that are packing these inks? Do they know sterile techniques? I don't mean, are there machines regulated? No, because it's not regulated, so they could

just do whatever they want. Yeah, I mean they're doing these studies and everything with the inks, but like, are they doing the full blown investigation, like going to where they're being manufactured and looking into everything else too? So

I'm just so interesting because it's not regulated. Yeah, because if you were making some kind of if you were, let's for for example, in the hospital, you would use like steril saline on patients right in their open wounds and things like that, there's FDA regulations as to those factories, how they put them in the bottles, how they expiration dates this, and that. All of that stuff doesn't happen

with tattoo inks. So I mean, listen, like any anything could be Like if you want to say it's a conspiracy,

like what's the conspiracy they're trying to do? What? Like, I just I just want to know, Like, like her theory was that they bought a bunch of bottles off of Amazon, like you're saying, with makeup and tested them and they're putting this out there because like all this stuff's apparently coming out in Europe, where like they've proven that all these agencies are putting out these likequote unquote studies that tattoos are horrible for your health and everything,

when it's like these super religious organizations backing them because they don't want people getting them anymore. Yeah, I don't know who did this study in particular, So I could look up look into it more to see if they do name the brands in the study, because this this what we're reading right now is just an article about the study, but the actual study might have the the

brands listed. Yeah, there might also be a thing that because of slander and stuff, they might I don't know what the rules are as far as outing companies that do this, but I just think that when it boils down to it, the emergency room visits of stuff, there's an increase in bacterial infectus, so they're just trying to see why. Yeah, totally have you had people getting tattooed forever, so like why is it getting worse now? Yes, it's

because more people are getting tattooed than ever before. But I still think that even though the numbers are increasing, they're still saying that. Yeah. I mean, I just thought it was interesting because like, we come in from this side reading this report in this study, and I was like, I have to hear a first hand account. No, I mean, I I don't blame Rachel. My first question would be

like what brand, because I'm not going to use it anymore. Right, That's exactly what she was like freaking out about because she's like, I want to know what the like what the first thing? She was like, why don't the single tattoo artist that's listening right now does too? And every person that gets tattoos wants to know too. But like, I don't know why it's not listed. It might just not be listed in this particular article. But I'm good,

I'm going to find it. So, Yeah, especially because this is a serious crisis, we should be letting people know so it doesn't continue to happen. But I think that I think the bigger problem here is, like if all these people are getting tattoos, they should they should regulate the tattooing. Yeah, I mean, I don't know why it's not FD And it's not just it's not just for back material. It's for the metals that's the most important thing.

The allergens, things like that, Like these things you should be aware because you're permanently injecting that under your skin for the rest of your life. You can't get it out unless you get I don't even know if a laser tattoo removal is considered a full removal of a tattoo. You have to excize the skin. Yeah, because tattoos and in your one lecture you had before, right, you talked about how tattoos go seven layers deep in the skin, is right? They go, Yeah, they go deep into the skin.

They go in the dermis, which is below the epidermis or the layer that you see. They go deep. And even with laser removal, I'm not sure that every single pigment particle is removed in case you are having some kind of terrible allergic reaction or something. So just to think, like, the only way that people could get a tattoo fully removed, like if it was causing their body to freak out, is to have it excised, then they definitely should regulate the stuff. Yeah, one hundred percent. I mean I and

the procedure could be a little bit tighter too. I don't know why it's not. The inks aren't regulated. I mean, I just think that's ridiculous tattoo. Tattoo has been around forever, and it's been increasing in popularity for decades. It's not like just in the last five years everybody has one. They've it's been really popular since for the last like what thirty forty years. More and more people have been getting them. So I don't know this is It's definitely interesting.

So on our last episode, which was six Shocking Stories, I have to say that so slow. It's like such a dungue twister for me. We were talking about a lot of like unusual sex practices or ones that maybe ended up in wrong situations. So I was surprised to see that gen Z is really into the kink of strangling during sex. So gen Z is kids born between So this is after you, So you're millennial. I'm like

the very end of millennial. So gen Z is it says nineteen ninety seven to twenty twelve, which makes them between twelve and twenty seven years old. Is that? Does that sound? Yeah? That's right. So the study was conducted at the University of Melbourne Law School as well as Queensland and revealed that fifty seven percent of the participants. How many were studied? Wasn't it like forty like a

significant amount of people that they see? It was like over four thousand people, over four thousand, Yeah, so fifty percent, fifty seven percent of them. So over two thousand people said that they had been strangled and or perfect at least once during sex at least once, and over fifty percent said that they had strangled someone during sex. Well why don't you, why don't you explain, like like why why would somebody do this? Like what makes it? What

makes this? When when you cut off off oxygen too your brain it enhances an orgasm, that's like a known fact. But there may be really dangerous though, right yeah, yeah, well it could kill you. And the thing is is that there's no there's no safe way to do it.

And I mean listen, like the article talks about vanilla sex and like boring sex, right and I don't want to sound like that right now, but like you're cut if you cut off oxygen to your brain, Like it's just why would you ever want to cut off oxygen to your brain for any reason? Because there's all different

levels that people can tolerate. And when you have someone that's not a professional doing it, especially like they don't understand how much is too much, you can get permanent brain damage, Like why would you risk the most Famously, the actor David Carodine from Kill Bill had died doing this called autoerotic asphyxiation, where it wasn't he like choking himself with a rope while he was jerking off and

it just went too and he died. Yeah, so this what we're talking about sex with people is called erotic asphyxiation, and auto erotic is when you're doing it by yourself, which and yeh seems more usious to be doing it

by yourself. Well, it's it's just dangerous. And yeah, I guess it is because like if you at least if you nod out, hopefully when you're having sex with another person, that they realize that, you know, they've done too much and you're there with somebody monitoring it, whereas when you're by yourself, it's kind of like whatever. But that that's actually a really good celebrity death dis section that we did in the Grocery on David Carrodine and shows a

lot of different cases of auto eerotic asphyxiation. And it's it's I understand why people do it, Like I get it, but it's just no matter what anybody says, there's not a safe way to do it. So every time you're doing it, you are taking a risk. Well, in general, this seems to be a problem because this like sex expert sexpert on this article seemed to suggest that all the people she interviewed seemed like it wasn't quote unquote good sex unless you left the encounter with like a

bruising or scrapes or like pain. So, which is interesting because in any other circumstance that would be considered like partner abuse exactly. But then but then they said, like throw a mattress underneath you, and now all of a sudden it's like a sexual satisfy like satisfying thing or whatever. You know. Yes, I mean, it's it's really interesting to me that their generation in particular, who is like mass complainers about everything and calling people out in the well,

that's that's their outlet. Is that like that they do that because they are they are mass complainers. So there must be something with mass complaining and wanting to get choked out while you're having sex. Oh, I guess just be safe when you're when you're doing your things. So all right, So this this is this is a topic we've covered like more privately because you know, it gets

like weird. But last year the Moodor Museum in Philadelphia, which explain what this museum is for everybody, Well, it used to be the most amazing museum in the world that it's been there for a really long time, and they have actual real life specimens of pathology on display in jars or mummified or skeletons that show what it looks like when a person has a pathology. So you know, in the grocerom and stuff, we show photographs of it and we try to educate that way, but at this

museum they would educate with the actual specimen. You walk through the museum, it explains to you what it is.

And it was really great for a long time for people, especially people that had odd and unusual diseases or conditions, that they can go to this museum and see something and say, hey, that looks like something I had, or it's just a lot of historical things they have this They had this whole drawer of foreign body that you would see that people swallowed by accident, and just some of them were really interesting to see just from a long time ago, like a woman would put a hairpin

in her mouth and swallow it by accident or something. But some of the items were just items that you wouldn't even use today, so it's just cool from a historical perspective. They had the liver of Chang and Eang, the famous can join twins, just lots of different unusual medical things that we've heard of, but you could actually see it, and it just was such an awesome museum. Yeah, so in twenty twenty two they changed leadership behind the scenes,

and then last year stuff really started to change. So one day they used to have this YouTube channel that had like videos of all their exhibitions and specimens and stuff, and one day this YouTube channel just disappears, and people that were fans of the museums were like, what the fuck happened to this? This was one of the most awesome things I loved watching and this was a lot yes,

and it was a lot of work. I know that curator she put a lot of work into making these videos, interviewing people that actually had donated their specimens to the museum, and they had a lot of subscribers and a lot of people were getting educated from it, and then they decided to just turn it off one day. So yeah, so after the YouTube channel goes away, then you know, stuff starts rolling out that there's questionable actions, like they might close the museum in general, and you know it's

all because of the ethics of how these specimens were sourced. Well, I don't think that they ever said they were going to close the museum. They were just going to take all the human specimens out of the museum. You might as well close the exactly, nobody's gonna want to go like sorry, that's why everybody goes FYI. Yeah, so they so they were basically saying they were going to remove remove all the human specimens because of like ethical reasons

and whatever. Well, the biggest reason is is because the man you're going to talk about in a minute, he had a surgery done, he had an unusual condition and he decided he wanted to donate it, and he took his organ and donated it and signed the paperwork. Right. Yes, their issue is that because this museum opened over one hundred years ago. Their issue is that there was specimens in there that people did not consent to having in the museum. Yes, and these are very unusual things that

you will never see again. Some just weird, like syphilis of the skull for example, Like you're never going to

say to see tertiary syphilis in a skull. Really, I mean, I don't want to say never, but it's not going to be something you're going to come across as commonly in this time period, and instead of giving a history lesson, because that's what it is to say, like, hey, doctors back in the day would just like grave rob these things, or they would just take these things when a person died and didn't ask their family if it was okay. And that's how it was done back in the eighteen hundreds.

It's not okay now, but this is how it was done. We still want you to look at this. Instead of having like a history lesson so people could learn how medicine has evolved over the years, they decided to just hide it away in a closet and not let anybody

look at it because it was disrespectful. But isn't it more disrespectful to shove somebody's remains in a closet and let them deteriorate, then keep taking care of them and just having a little plaque that's like, hey, because of the history of this museum, this specimen might have not have been ethically sourced necessarily, but it's important that we learn from it and every like, there's so many ways to go about it. It was just it was trending topic

of the week. Then Harvard took out a human skin book they had it, and then it was like Smithsonian's going to take out all their human remains. Like it just was like a trending topic of the week for all of these snewty frickin' people that are running these museums. And there's so many people that are against this, especially in medicine. I mean whatever I am, of course, but I just think that there's so many doctors, old museum curators,

people that just learn from this kind of stuff. You think when you're teaching a doctor that you could just teach them everything by looking in a textbook, and you just can't. And this is you're just taking away another educational tool. I've taken so many physicians to this museum and they just and and other healthcare professionals too, and

they just there's nothing like seeing it in person. It's just really great for education, and it's just really sad that these people have ownership of such a great collection that's no longer able to be seen. So now in the news this week, there are people that are alive that have donated their own specimens to the museum and they are outraged by what's going on there and they want them back. Good should take them back. They could

give them the meal. I'll show them to everybody that wants to see them and teach them all about it, because the purpose of donating them was to educate people. And then you're hiding this stuff away, even these people who have signed the paperwork and done everything. Just I am thinking about this guy in particular. Right, he had a condition called acromegli, which is a problem when there is too much growth hormone and it causes it could cause all of your body bards and your organs to

get really large. Right, he required a heart transplant. Okay, a heart transplant is a hardcore surgery. It's your first you're having heart failure and going through that. Then you get on a list, then you have to get this surgery. Then you might reject there's all these things. Right, you're in the hospital for a while after you get it done.

He went, He got that done, had the transplant done, went through the trouble of getting his heart, his explanted heart from the hospital to the museum, which is a lot of paperwork and stuff. You can't just take an organ from the hospital and donate it to museum. There's a lot of phone calls, paperwork, transport, blah blah blah.

And he went through all that because he wanted people to learn from his condition, from all the pain that he went through, and he thought like, hey, maybe there's someone like me out there that's suffering from this and wants to see it. Maybe there's a doctor that's going to come visit and see it and recognize this before it becomes a problem, whatever the case is. So he does that. He goes again to the museum several times and films these videos with the curator to talk about

his condition, which is awesome. It's like my book, It's like the best is talking to patients like you see the pictures, but then talking to the patients that actually experienced it. It's just like the best well rounded education you can get, especially for doctors who are taking care of people and went through all this trouble and now he's like, oh, cool, you're gonna fucking put it in

a closet. I'll have it back thanks. Yeah. And there's another this article discussed is another one men who donated her specimen as well, who talked to the new lady in charge who is basically saying there's no difference between the donation of a human specimen or art. So it's nice to see that these people are having these, you know, parts of their body. If there's no if there's no difference,

then put it on display. Exactly because you think everything at every art museum has been ethically sourced, like, come on, no, we actually it hasn't. And if you really want to go down that hole, we might as well just close every great museum and display of anything that we have. Like think about this, right, University of Pends get in the same way with their with their archaeology museum. But then I'm like, they have all that Native American shit there.

You think that was all ethically sourced. No, they probably stole it from the people it belonged to. Right, So now now that's not a problem, but you're gonna get rid of the mommies and stuff like it's just fucking stupid. So I would urge people to go in the grosser room. Because we actually did an interview last year with James Edmonson,

who oh, I loved him. He was incredible, But most of the episode was about this very topic because he was in charge of a museum for decades in a really long time, and this was really disturbing to him. So and he was he wrote the book. The reason that I interviewed him is because he wrote the book dis Section, which is such a great book. If you guys are into this stuff, it's a big photo book. You should still be able to get it. I'll link

it in the website description. Yeah, but it's a great book that shows medical students to how they used to dissect bodies a while ago. Not they're not really current pictures. And so he was one of the writers of that book. But yes, like Maria said, he was also kind of had a similar job being a curator. And how I mean it's offensive, It's honestly offensive. And this person that's running the museum now is probably not even involved with

medicine at all, which just really infuriates me. Well, you know, it's more disrespectful in my opinion, to take the things away that where they're being properly cared for by people that are specialists in this and like devoting their lives. Imagine this is what James Edmondson said that really stuck out to me. He said, imagine spending your life preserving these items, only for this new person to come in and take your life's work away and shove it in

a closet. Yeah. And I know for a fact because I've seen the work that Anna did there at the museum that she like these people are dedicated to the sheep she left. She doesn't work there anymore. Yeah, I read that in the article, which really pisses me off to But you know, I think about that too, Like if all of these things, so they have like a back room with stuff that's like not in great condition, like everything can't be displayed because of certain reasons like that.

But if those specimens, like let's say this guy's heart goes in the back room, who's taking care of it? Because those fluids need to be changed often, like there's a special way to handle it. They have specimens that are over one hundred years old in a jar still because there's been people that have loved the collection, that have taking care of it so good for all of

these years. And if it sits, I'm telling you right now, like the fluid will evaporate out of the jar and the thing will dry up and it'll be like it'll literally be trash, Like you can't ever show anything with it. It'll be a dried piece of meat and it's just it's just really devastating. No, it really is so. And for what I do. What I mean, we've been saying, we've been saying the whole time that this whole exercise

is like completely ridiculous. And now to see that these people that have that have given their own pieces of their body to try to educate other people and like do something for a good cause or like give it back to me, it's insane. And I agree with them

one percent. If I spent all the time, like you're saying, this guy doing its his heart right, and it's he's had to do all this paperwork and go through this whole thing to get it there, and then it's just like being shoved in the back of a closet or I think they said it's like out on display right now, like thanks, after I yelled at you, now you put it out right, So he should still take it back out of principle, No, I would. I The only thing

I could hope is that they're that nobody goes there anymore. Yeah, and I would just and then someone else takes over and it's like ding dong, the witch is dead, and like, well we'll start over again, well, they should do not that much time. They should take it back and donate it to an institution that's actually going to respect what they're doing. So it's disgusting. No, they won't. That's the thing. I'm like, there's some museum out there that'll take the stuff.

They won't do it though. That's that's the thing. It's like, and it's some weird control thing that like it just goes well beyond what is on the surface in my opinion. Yes, all right, other death news. All right, So there's been this like fear for a long time of like robots and ai taking over jobs. Were you ever concerned about it coming to the Morgue? No, But when I read

about this, I was like, oh, this completely makes sense. Actually, So the Massachusetts Medical Examiner Office has purchased a dog like robot trying to assist with some of their autopsies because they get so many a year. So when you go to the Medical Examiner's office, it's really just like anybody that dies that they don't know why they died, whether it's suspicious or not, goes to the Medical Examiner's office.

So let's say, for example, they have a person that was found dead outside right, and they don't know why they died. They and then they do they start doing what's called the external exam, So they're looking at the outside of the body, and they take off the guy's shirt and he has a big incision on his chest that makes it look like he had a previous heart surgery, and they do a quick toxicology and it's all negative. Sometimes they're able to say, okay, just based upon like

he has no trauma, there's nothing going on here. He has this heart history. You know, he's not high on any kind of drug or anything. We're going to call this a cardiovascular death. And the reason that they do that is because medical examiner's offices are notoriously short staffed, and in fact, there is a shortage of forensic pathologists

in the country in general. So they want to dedicate their time and enjery and energy towards people who need it, like people who were murdered or people that died in a horrible accident. So they need that investigative services more for that then for people that probably died for natural disease. So they're saying that they do forty seven hundred a year external exams. That's a lot of bodies. I mean, if you split that up every day, it's a lot

of bodies. And they're saying that this technology could help them have doctors kind of look at it over this robot and help them with the external exam. Maybe they wouldn't even have to bring them into the more. You just have to think about all the resources that are used in order to you find a person dead. Okay, then you have to bring them back to the morg Well,

you have to pay an employee to do that. You have to pay an employee to take the pictures, you have to pay an employee to bring them back and lay them out and do the external exam again out in the morgue. And they're saying that even though this thing costs a lot of money for a robot, I think it's it was two hundred and sixty nine seven hundred and twenty five dollars. It's a lot of money for anything, right, Yeah, But they're saying that they're paying

double in overtime for all of this extra work. So then they did in years prior which was it added up to be like four hundred thousand additional dollars in overtime money. So like right there, it kind of pays for itself if you're going to be able to prevent people from working so much. I think it's I think

it's great in certain situations. And also another thing is like, let's say there's a situation where a person dies and they had some kind of a and exposure to a chemical that a human shouldn't be around, or they're in a room where humans shouldn't be because it's not safe. That's why the person's dead. This is perfect that they could send this robot in to go examine the body or do whatever and not expose their personnel. Yeah. I

was thinking that's really good for that too. And I was reading that they also tried to use this in hospitals during like COVID and stuff to try to prevent some employees from getting infection. So that's definitely an interesting way to apply it. Yeah, I'm all for it. I think it's great. Yeah, all right, onto Questions of the Day. Every Friday at the at Mother Knows Death Instagram, we put a story up where you could ask whatever questions you want. So, first is how long do specimens typically

last informulin? Well, we were just talking about that with the moodor museum. Right, they could last a really long time. Like me, let me pull out this guy again, my Lucia's plasenna. Well, this is actually so. I originally fixed it in formaline for a couple months, and then I switched it over to alcohol. But as you could even see in my jar the alcohol, so I had I did it maybe when she was born, within the year.

So the alcohol is starting to evaporate. It just does all the time, and the water and the alcohol looks a little grimy too, So I probably should take off the lid and clean it out and put fresh stuff in it, which is what the curators that these museums do all the time. They know how to take care of these specimens. So if you had something in an air tight thing with formuline, I mean it could, it could last years and years and years and years, and if you looked at it under the microscope it would

still look really crisp. But in these cases it has to be changed out because of the evaporation. So I hope that helps with your question a little bit. All right, Next, what is your favorite organ? Oh, that's a good one. My favorite organ to cut is the liver because it's just like lunch meat kind of. It just reminds me of like balogney or something. It just cuts very smooth and nice with a with a nice sharp knife. But I really like, I really I feel like my favorite

organ system is the GI system. It's I like that, like the way it works is interesting to me. But so it just depends on like, what what do you mean? My favorite one that cuts a liver. My favorite one to look at is a heart. But my favorite one the way it works is the GI system. I kind of hate the brain. It's just a little too complicated and mushiev for me. I'm just not really interested in the anatomy of it. It's kind of boring to me. I know a lot of people are interested in neurology

and neuropathology. It's just kind of I'm just not that into it. Yeah. Well, I'm triggered by the placenta because that summer you made me intern with you at the hospital, the first specimen you showed me was a placenta, and I wanted to puke everywhere. So yeah, but they're kind of amazing organs because they they just form, they just form, and they're temporary. Yeah, it's like you form this huge organ that's the size of like it's it's bigger than

your spleen. It's it's it's a big organ size, you know what I mean. It's like the size of your stomach almost. Yeah, I mean that was and then you and then it's disposable. It's like, yeah, we don't need you anymore. So yeah, that's why I took it home, because I'm like, I formed that organ. I want it. Well, maybe that's why some people are inclined to eat it. They're just fascinated. I never wanted to eat it. It looks it looks like steakish when you cut it when

it's fresh. So it's just like I don't know. That's where I draw the line. All right, last question? What do we do for fun? What's fun? I like to go mini golfing or to the movies. I embroider as a hobby, which is fun but sometimes could be stressful when I'm like making Louis this present last week that I'm feeling like I have to rush, But what about you? Well, we go to the Phillies games. That's like that's our all. That's like our family, Like, okay, turn it off. For

the night and go relax and do this as a family. Yeah, we do that. Then it sucks though when they're not playing. But they've been in the playoffs the past couple of years, which is good because then we get like another couple of months of baseball, which is awesome. Yeah. But yeah, I mean I garden. It's like, I'm not really that exciting of a person. I like to do activities with

the kids. We go to the we go down the shore all the time in the summer too, so and then in the winter it's like we have to find other things to do, like go to the movies and stuff like that. But we don't do anything like mind blowing. Just despite the thought that I don't go outside, I do go fishing sometimes with my husbands. I do like fishing. It is satisfying to do. So yeah, I mean it's nothing crazy. I feel like the stuff most people do, right, Yeah,

I mean I don't. We don't do anything were really not exciting. I'm not like, oh, I go out and get drunk and dance all night, like that's not happening. In fact, that's the worst thing that could ever happen. That would be like my worst nightmare. To really be out of the house past nine o'clock is my worst nightmare at this point. Yeah. I mean last Saturday, we had a pretty good day because we went We just had like no commitments that day for the first time

in a long time. So we went fishing and then we came home and chilled for a little bit, and then we went mini golfing and we went to this new winery and just got a cheeseboard and like a glass of wine each. That was really good. I actually want to go there with you because the food was really good and it had a lot of gluten free stuff. Yeah, I mean we like we definitely like I feel like I used to go out to dinner a lot more and try different foods like a lot more before the pandemic,

and now I'm just kind of like over it. Yeah, which sucks because that used to be a huge thing that I used to do. And we try to do like different activities, Like we're going to go to this Chinese lantern fest. That's going to be pretty cool. Oh, I thought you went last night. I didn't feel like it, Okay. I mean it was pretty hot out yesterday too, so it's summer in Philly. It's hot every day. Yeah, well, don't forget to submit your stories for six Shocking Stories

and the email is stories at Mothernosdeath dot com. They've started to roll in and they're quite interesting. So yeah, if you have any kind of like crazy medical thing that's happened to you, and we we did this a little little bit with the book getting submissions for the book. You don't have to have pictures though, we could just talk about it on the podcast. But if you have pictures, we can make a post in the gross room too,

because pictures always just complete everything. Then, like, give us a little teaser in the subject line, you know, like I want to be shocked when I open the story I start reading it. Be very descriptive. We love like no message is too long, in my opinion, we want all the details possible. Yeah, and we'll write you back if we have any more questions about it. And then if you want us to say your name or whatever,

well we can kindly do that. Or just if it's completely embarrassing and the last thing you want is your name attached to the story, then we don't have to do. Yeah, if you've already submitted, we won't read the names, because like we didn't specify that the last time we were taking submissions. But if you want your name, you could say it and then we'll figure out when we start doing those how we're going to go about that. But are excited to hear your guys' stories and we hope

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