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Six Shocking Stories - She Found Maggots Where!?!?

Jul 01, 2024•49 min•Season 1Ep. 70
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We are very excited to introduce our newest installment - Six Shocking Stories! This week, we get into the mixture of fireworks and alcohol, maggots in unusual places, a rectal foreign body removal gone wrong, the unspoken side of firefighting, an unnecessarily thorough autopsy, and a horrific homicide between father and son.


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Speaker 1

Mother Knows Death starring Nicole and Jemmy and Maria QK.

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Hey, guys, welcome The Mother Knows Death. We have some exciting news for you. In addition to the episodes that we normally do every week, which is Pathology in the News and our external exams, we're gonna throw in a little something different from time to time that we call six Shocking Stories. Yeah, I'm sure we'll mess that up safe. I know. This is the first time I actually said it out loud, and I'm like, this is but yeah,

so we're going. We thought since the news we're getting such great feedback about the stories that we're covering in the news, we thought about all of the awesome stories that we have in the gross room that have been happening overs and they these stories have awesome videos and awesome pictures that go along with it. So we thought we would tell you about some of these stories and then if you are interested, you could go to the Grosser Room and see the photos or videos that go

along with these cases. Yeah, so we'll start off every story and say what the title of it is. When we get to the end of the episode, we're actually gonna ask you, guys, for some of your submissions as well. We are getting we constantly are getting emails and messages with like some of the most outrageous stories ever, and

it's something that we read to each other. So we'd like the opportunity to include them on here too, if you want them read aloud, or if you want them posted in the Grosser Room too with some pictures, if you have any of that. So we're trying to, you know, hope this episode is kind of a fun new spin on older cases that aren't really relevant necessarily right now, and then feature your guys stories as well. Okay, so

let's get started with the first story this week. All right, So first you want to tell everybody with this one it is called this one is called Lobster Claws, so you guys will get to see that. My gross Room titles are a little sometimes they give a little insight into like what's happening inside of the post, but also their play on words or I like to make kind of quirky titles to have you thinking like what could

this possibly be about. So it's the first of July, so fourth of July is coming up this Thursday, and we thought the best story to start this off with would be one about fireworks. So I don't know about you, because, like I feel like I had really sheltered upbringing thanks to you. But I don't really remember anybody playing with fireworks. We also all know that I'm a rule follower, so it's not something I would be attracted to going towards

and being in New Jersey. Fireworks aren't really that easy to acquire. So do you have any stories of people playing with them growing up? I don't know why you don't remember people playing with fireworks, because your uncle Louis or my brother was known for on our way to Disney World stopping at you know, South of the Border or something and getting fireworks and bringing them home and

putting them off in the yard. And my mom let him when he was like ten or twelve years old, by the way, So these are prime candidates of these kinds of stories that we're talking about as my own family. Yeah, I mean maybe I was just too little to remember. I just I don't have any memories like in our backyard growing up, of anybody playing with them, or any of my friends that I knew playing with them. Yeah, because I probably when Louis was in the backyard doing it.

I probably had you on the opposite side of the house because I didn't want you to get blown up or something. Yeah, and then like fast forward, I'm a teen I'm not a teenager necessarily. I was nineteen years old and I moved into the city and then suddenly, like everybody on every single block in South Philly is

setting them off at all times, all summer long. And then I started making friends in the city, and then you know, I'm at barbecues where people are drinking and they're setting them off, and I'm just like, I don't want to be anywhere near this scene. So basically what's going on is similar in this story where this guy and his friends are just hanging out. They're drinking alcohol.

His sister, you know, is like done for the night, and she goes in the house and even says, don't do anything stupid, and then they keep drinking more and then oh wait, let's pull out the fireworks. Nothing could possibly go wrong, right, So you know, this guy's like really drunk holding in m mad firework. It exploded in his hand, and then you know, key into the title of this article, which is lobster claw. I think you

should explain what having from there. So this is kind of an outrageous video that we have here in the Gross Room of a guy who had this firework injury, as Maria's saying, and his hand literally looks like a lobster call. It's like the two fingers, so his pinky and his ring finger are completely split in his hand from his middle finger and pointer finger. But the craziest part of the video is that he's still moving his hand,

so it literally looks like a lobster claw. And the doctors were shocked that he still had movement in his hand, and they were actually able in this case. They were able to repair it with only minimal tissue damage and he was able to regain his function and motion back in his hand. It's one of the better stories of the stories in the Grossroom that end up leading in amputations and even death in some cases from fireworks. It's

a very specific injury to males. Sixty five percent of these injuries occur in males, and in twenty twenty two there were eleven people who died as a result of firework injuries, and these were people that didn't work in the industry, so a lot of the deaths are attributed to misfires or like the product itself was just not good, which is also another situation because you're buying these things at a store legally and assuming that they're safe, and a lot of them are just not made according to

the standards that they're supposed to be made, So even if you aren't totally wasted and lighting them off, you could still get injured by them. They're freaking dynamite. Man, Like, yeah, I mean, I like, I'm just so not used to them being here. You know, when we're driving in other parts of the countries, there's fireworks stores literally everywhere. They just aren't around like that. Here they're not. But now

they sell them at Target and stuff. They never did in New Jersey at least when I was a kid. But and it sounds like you're like, Okay, eleven people die a year. It's not that many people, right, but there's ten thousand plus injuries a year because of this. So even if you don't die, I mean, losing one or both of your hands, or losing your eye or

both of your eyes, it's seriously life altering. So these things are the craziest part of this really is that from it with these statistics that I'm giving you set, So we said ten thousand injuries a year, approximately, right over seven thousand injuries occur between June seventeenth and July seventeenth. Seventy three percent of the injuries occur this month like that we're in right now. Yeah, so it's it's one

hundred percent surrounded by summer. Fourth of July that whole I mean, I was even hearing them last night, Like in our area, we had these outrageous thunderstorms last night. So you know that was really all day yesterday, So thunder's going off and on all day and then it finally cleared up at nighttime. And with it truly within three minutes of this storm ending yesterday, I heard them going off. Yeah, it's definitely like a Saturday Sunday thing

and it'll be happening like insane this week. So yeah, so we're definitely prepared. It's it never fails. So when I was working in surgical pathology, it never failed that, especially when I was working in a trauma, a level one trauma center. We it would be the day after fourth of July and we would get fingers in bags

all of the time, like it's just never fail. And now we will get videos and lots of photographs to add I mean, we have such a collection of cases in the grocer room at this point of firework injuries because we get them every year. So more all of the story. Be careful with fireworks in general, but certainly don't be black out, drunk and handly or you're gonna end up with a mangled hand. I really can't believe this guy like didn't have worse problems or didn't have

to lose his whole hand. The video is just it's so gnarly, like you just can't imagine, you know, being in that much pain and just being like, hey, doctor, look I could still move my hand and blow your mind too, because you had your really bad finger cut two years ago. And remember I cut my hand really bad a couple of years ago, and they were like, if it went one more centimeter you would have had like no function in your point your finger anymore. Yeah,

that was a freaking horrible injury. Like I still don't have feeling in my pinky, Like even when I'm getting my nails done, it feels so gross. So this next one's called a Huga toilet, so This woman was thirty one years old. She was living in a rural part of India. They didn't really have good sanitation there. There was no plumbing at all, so you know, their bathrooms were essentially like an outhouse or a port a body situation.

She was bathing from local creek water, and then she was also making her own homemade pads that she was, you know, having her period, and then when she was done, she'd lay them out to dry until her next use. So yeah, so think about this. She was using a bathroom that was outside, that was essentially a hole in the ground that she was going to the bath Everybody was going into the bathroom, so you have what do you have? You have flies, There's just species that aren't

getting flushed into public plumbing. So it's just sitting there and it's it's exposing people not only to flies and stuff, but just to different viruses bacteria. And when she was done with these sanitations hopkins that she was making herself, she would lay them out to dry in this bathroom like right next to all of this mess. So okay, fast forward a couple months later and she's she's experienced it.

So she's married and she's experiencing vaginal itching and a white discharge, and you would think that you would not think of an STI or sexually transmitted infection. Thirty one year old woman with a white discharge in vaginal itching, Like what would you think? I would just assume like a yeast infection or something exactly right. So she goes to the doctor and she gets a pelvic exam and she doesn't have a yeast infection. In fact, she has

a maggot infestation in her vagina. So horrible, it's so horrible. And when you know, when they were working her up and figuring out what the hell happened and how this happened, they got more of the story from her, and they assumed that because she was laying the sanitary napkins with the old blood next to the feces, that there were flies in the room and everything like that, that the flies were landing on the sanitary napkins and they lay eggs in their microscopic like you wouldn't see it if

you picked it up and looked at it. And she was using these pads right close to her vagina, and that is how she got the maggot infestation. You know, I talked about this in last week's too. I'm watching Deadwood, and you know, anytime some medical situation happens, I'm like, thank God for modern myths. It sounds so horrible to have to go through all of this stuff. So, you know,

I always think about that. I think something like a toilet is something we really take for granted, and same with you know, tampons and pads and everything we have. So reading stories like this just really makes me thankful to have access to these. Well. So in the gross room. Under the comments of this particular post that I did, a lot of people were like, oh, you need to

you need to look at open defecation on YouTube. There's these videos of look look up poop beach and it kind of opened my eyes to a lot of things that I didn't know were going on, especially in India, that people just go on the beach and are pooping and it's like multiple people like that's what they do, and it's you know, when you don't have plumbing that's taking that poop away in a tube far away from people, and then you're sitting there, your water is right next

to it. You're drinking the water that's contaminated food is contaminated. Animals are eating the grass that's right next to this stuff, and this is how people get these insane viral infections, bacterial infections, parasitic infections in these countries. And it's especially dangerous for young women because when they have to go outside to either poop or pee, Like, let think about this, when you're going to bed at night, right and you

have to pee before you go to bed. Well, they don't want to go outside when it's pitch dark out because there's an increased risk for sexual violence for them. They get you know, they're they're lifting up their dress and they're going to the bathroom outside and exposing their their private parts. And young girls are getting sexually molested, older girls are getting or older women are getting sexually assaulted.

So this makes another problem because these women now pulled in their bathroom, so they hold in their poop or pee, and then they get urinary track infections and constipation because they don't want to go outside to go to the bathroom when it's dark. It's just fucking terrible. Yeah, I mean it really is. It just it's really nuts. Like I'm surprised, do you, I don't know. I feel like a month is a really long time. But I'm assuming if they don't have great sanitation everything there, that their

doctors probably aren't readily available. So do you think she knew there was a problem at first or do you think she just thought it was something like well, I mean, she eventually went because the itching was probably out of control.

And one interesting fact to know about how they treat these these maggot infections, which is insane, is that they put turpentine oil on top of them because what it does is it creates an environment that lacks oxygen and it creates it makes the maggots come to the surface and come out of the wound that they've created. It's it's so crazy because sometimes if it goes really deep, they have to treat it several times in order to get rid of it. And is this the only treatment

for this, because isn't turpentine really cancers? No? No, They also they also give medications as well, but for something like this, like let's say, for example, a person has gangarine or something on their toe and they get maggots because these just like flies are attracted to poop, they're attracted to dead tissue, right, so they're attracted to a gangernous toe that might just be like sitting out without a sock on. And sometimes people come into the hospital

in America with like one or two maggots. Okay, they could remove those and usually give them antibiotics or whatever and treat them and they're done with it. But in this case, this woman's were like deep in her vagina, like deep in an ulcer, and they weren't able to remove all of them just with forceps. So yeah, they had to use this. And then is there the potential that they could like burrow through and go elsewhere in

her body? Yeah, I mean they could. They don't really spread like that like a parasitic infection would like through the circulatory system or something like that. But yeah, I mean we have cases in the gross room of this where it's it starts on a wound on someone's head and then it eats through their skull into their brain. Like I mean, they think about this when a person decomposes. These these are decomposers. They break down the tissue, They

eat the dead tissue and help skeletonize a person. So they'll do it when you're alive too. If you have dead tissue that it's eating on it's it's really gnarly. Yeah, I can't believe that. So, yeah, I can't believe it's from something like, you know, just a pad. You're just like trying to trying to contain it, and then this is your only option and then it goes this far. It sucks, and you think about how shitty it is

like in America having your period and stuff. I just like, imagine we have things that we could throw out or cups that could grab stuff where there's all different options, right, Like imagine having to use a piece of fabric that you have to clean and let out to dry that like other people have to look at and stuff. Yeah, it's it's just the whole situation is just so degrading,

you know what I mean. You think there's a possibility too that she was like I know, it meant the case mentioned that she was bathing in like a creek water. Is there a possibility she was washing them in the creek water and the eggs came from there? They think it's more likely because of the pad being around the fecal material, Like yeah, just because it's out in the

open in a room. Think about when we just had food out this weekend, right, we cooked like porkebobs and some fruit and stuff for a barbecue we had this weekend, and like all the flies come right, Yeah, they land on everything, and it's just it's just easier that way. But yeah, I mean you could catch stuff too from bathing in a creek. So it's just like, this is why they young people die and people are so sick and because of the way that these people are living.

It's just really sad, yeah, for sure. So something we talk about a lot on here is rectel foreign bodies, and I think that concept in general is pretty shocking to some of our listeners because you know, I don't know if you know this. So this show came out called White Lotus, and it's like, honestly, everybody was like buzzing about it, and I watched it and it's really kind of a boring show. I really don't get the hype.

But in season one and there was this team where like somebody was eating somebody else's butt, so thinking they get sex scene, and everybody was clutching their pearls about it, and I'm just like everybody just I just don't understand what is so shocking about this that this show's getting all this critical acclaim, which is why I feel like these rectal feigm body stories we cover are so popular because people just can't fathom the idea of sticking something

up your butt for sexual satisfaction. Yeah, I think but Whole Pleasures is a is a very like frowned upon subject for people to talk about. But like, if we just make this normalized that like dudes like their prostate rubbed and the only way to really rub it good is to go in their ass, it just would it just would make these stories not even happen. And and really I think that it would just make it so much less taboo. And if people would did have a situation,

they would feel comfortable going to the hospital. And I don't I don't know, that's what that's my personal feeling. I feel like I want to bring awareness to but Whole Pleasures so we could just yeah it guess we're we could all openly talk about it and also always talk about the concept that, you know, like there's always this oh, I fell on it, like though you didn't just fall on a shampoo bottle, dude, like you had

to stick it up. Yeah, And I think we have so many stories in the gross room of rectel foreign bodies. It's like we could probably do one a week for the next couple of years and still like not run out of material. And I think the most interesting part

of it is that people. I mean, of course people use the standard dildos and everything like that, but people get really creative with what they're doing down So I know you've explained this before, but can you give us like a brief reminder of why things can get stuck up there to the point of having to go to the emergency room, Like why can't you just pull it out? So, like I said, the prostates up there, and that's it.

Think about that as being like a glitterist for a guy, Like it's just it just makes it extra special for a guy. And and think about this too, like let's say, because we're gonna since we're going to talk about but whole pleasures, we could just openly talk about the fact that, like we poop, right, Like, yeah, everybody everybody poops, Like the books use FLESHMBI poop, so so sometimes like you feel like you have to poop, but then you're like,

I don't feel like it. I'm too busy I'm at the store whatever, and you have this urge to go, and then all of a sudden, within like maybe ten minutes, the feeling goes away. Right. It's because the poop that's like the turtle head that's like pushing through is like it gets sucked back up there, right, So you don't

have that urgency anymore. The same thing happens if you stick something the opposite way up there, that it kind of sucks it up and it could go to a point where you no longer are able to retrieve it yourself. So how do how did they get it out at

the hospital? Well? A lot different ways. They can manually extract it if it's small enough and if they could reach it, but sometimes they have to go in and make an incision in the abdomen and take it out through the colon, and sometimes they have to resect pieces of someone's colon. Yeah, it depends how large it is and how far op it goes. All right, Well, this guy was using a vibrator, not a shampoo bottle or in your favorite story, a pair and it got stuck

up their butt. Nothing rare about this, as we've just discussed, the worst part is is that you know, after it got stuck, they were obviously freaking out and trying to figure out how to get it out. So they took some salad tongs and stuck the tongs up there to try to get it out, and then the tongues got

stuck as well. Yeah, so he didn't go to the hospital with the initial rectal foreign body that was stuck, which was the vibrator, and then has to now because you're embarrassed, and now has to show up at the emergency room with the vibrator in your ass and the salad tongues that got stuck up here too. Think about what this car ride or the ambulance ride going to the emergency room is like with something stuck in your butt like that you have to lay down in the

back seat. I don't know. Like this is the biggest question I always have for people that work in the er, because in surgical pathology, like let's say, for instance, it's happened at my hospital, we would get a like a bucket, a white bucket, and I would take off the lid. It would say rectal foreign body, and I would open it and there would be a vibrator and tongues covered in shit basically, right, I don't get any story except

a piece of paper that says rectal foreign body. So I only have to imagine, like, what the hell happened? What is this? What's the story? I don't even see the imaging or the X ray or anything, and I don't get a story. So that's why I'm so envious sometimes the people that work in the emergency room, because I have all these questions like what did this person look like? How did this person come in? Where they

you know, and we've asked this before. They there's a combination of like, oh, the people come in and they laugh about it. They think it's funny, and they're like, okay, like rest, yeah, well thinking of the situation, and it's it's just like some some people are kind of like, hey, I was playing around and it got stuck whatever haha, and then other ones are like, oh, yeah, like this vibrator was just sitting on the floor and I was helping my wife clean the house and I tripped and

I fell on it. It was hers and like these outrageous stories that you just know would never ever happen in real life, right, And it's just the the variation is very is very telling, and I think with my butthole campaign, you know, my Buttthole Pleasures campaign, I just think that that that like maybe I'm more for like they're gonna get stuck either way. I know they make products that have like a wide so they don't get stuck with those ones get stuck to I've seen those two.

I just think that, like I like the patient more that comes in and like laughs about it and it is like, yeah, I was having fun and it got stuck or whatever, rather than like going in and trying to just make up some outrageous story because I can't

imagine like how mortified people feel. You know, they have to make ones that don't go up so far, right, like how faf that's attached to a person or a sex style or like the wall I'm telling you I've got because they make ones that have these like wider bases. But like if you do that all the time, your asshole like spreads open pretty far. Like that whole thing could just go up there. I've seen them before. How far approximately do you think it has to go in?

Because like if you're just having anal sex that that can't happen necessarily, right, what well the penis is attached to a person. Dude, I know, but I'm just saying, like, well, how would what do you what are you talking about? How would it happen if it's attached to a person, Because why couldn't it get stuck if it's attached to a person. If it could get stuck if it's not attached to a person, well it can't because it's the person could pull it out. Yeah, but why can't you

just use your forest to pull something else out? Because you can't reach it up there, it gets stuck up there. Okay. That's why when you go to the hospital like they have to you, you have at the bottom of your rectum, right around your anus, you have a sphincter that's like a giant, like thick ass rubber band that stays closed

all the time. So like right now, if I was like, I'm sure you have poop in your colon, If I was like, poop, you couldn't just like, well, because I'm envisioning in most of these cases it's like partially sticking out and the suction is just so great that they can't get it out. No, no, no, no, it's up there, like and then the rubber band can close around it, the rubber band close and is no longer open for business.

And it's like, well, this is this is a new violation to me because in my head for all these cases, it was like partially sticking out of the person. So that's why you think it was like clenched on it. Ye, Like I'm imagining this section is so great that that's why they can't get it out. I didn't realize it's like fully inside. In every single case it's fully inside, okay, And that's why the guy was like, shit, I gotta

get these tongs to like pull. This changes everything in my opinion, for I just was like partially sticking out, but the section was so great that like no matter what force could get it out. So that's why I was asking, if you're having eight O sex, like why

can't you pull it out like this? No? Okay, it's it's in there and it's not coming back, like it's just yeah, So well this is good because now like if see, if Maria doesn't realize this, then like nobody realizes this, right, Like, So the thing is is that it's estimated from all of these studies that have been done and stuff from twenty and twelve until twenty and twenty one, thirty eight thousand, almost thirty nine thousand people have went to the er to get a rectal foreign

body removed, and it's usually men. Sometimes it's women, but it's usually men because of the like if women had a clitorist inside of their ass too, it would be more common in women, but it's not. That's why it's that's why it's more common in men. I mean, now that I have this new information, I'm just not everything we've talked about before and it being fully in there,

and it's it's like even worse visualization now. Yeah, So I mean, it's not like it's not like this guy showed up at the er with like a vibrator in solid tongues like half hanging out of their ass. That's what I thought. It's like fully inside their body, Like if you looked at them, you would not be able to even tell that that was inside their body. But this is blowing my mind because this is what I thought.

That's why I was like, how do you even say it down in the car if these things are sticking out, I'm sure it wouldn't it still wouldn't be comfortable to sit down, assume not. But yeah, that that's why this case. So, this case, I don't know if we said the name of it. It's called tossed Salad. The X ray is so striking because you could see the vibrator like totally in the abdomen along with the salad tongues around it.

So it's it's really it's a good story. Oh my god, I just I'm seeing this in a whole new light now. I just assumed in every case they were like the pair. I don't know every single case. I just assumed they were partially sticking out and they just couldn't get it out. No, what happened in the case with the pair. You know what, let's save the pair for another You're right, You're right, You're right. I know I've talked about it before, but like we can go into more detail with that. This

episode is brought to you by the Grossroom. The Grosser Room is really awesome. You guys should check it out. We always talk about cases here and there's some posts in the Grosser Room. We have one about the Beach Umbrella deaths and injuries. We have just there's always something that goes along with one of the stories we're talking about decapitation, you interested in seeing it, we have that anything.

So it's a really good place too, because if you like hearing about these stories, I know with me anyway, I would read these stories and my first thing is like I want to see what this looks like, because it's like, imagine driving your car and running someone over and their head getting chopped off. It's just one of the most disturbing ways that you could see a human So of course you want to see it. In the grocery room, well, I'll certainly be searching beach umbrella and

peach or empowerment. It's like get dog right now, you know what I'm saying, I because you know, when we're reading that story, I'm just like I could understand how it went down, but like I need to fully see something. So well, I have a lot of cases in the

grosser room of impowment, just people. I mean crazy stories about like a guy just driving and he was behind one of those big trucks that carries those giant tree logs, and he got in an accident and the tree log like went through his entire body like a huge tree log, and he survived. It's just crazy the way that these things can just enter your body and if it just

misses the right thing, then you're gonna be cool. But you should really see how how crazy dramatic it is to see how the firefighters have to cut each end of the log and bring the person to the emergency room. And just think about a person alive, just laying there with that huge thing throughout their body. So there's there's a bunch of cases that I have in there. If you just there's a search bar, just search impowerment and they'll all come up and you can join for only

five ninety nine a month. Yeah, so visit the Grosserroom dot com from our info. Let's get let's get onto another male sexual pleasure, right. This one's called dirty Job. So when we had Gabe on the podcast for his external exam, I was really trying to like put on my producer hat and be like when people here of firefighters, they think of fires. They don't really know like everything else you guys have to do. You know, like if somebody jumps off the bridge, you have to go scoop

them out of the river. You have to go to car accidents, you have to save cats out of trees, like nobody thinks more about what they do beyond fighting fires. Right, So in this case, this guy comes home, he's intoxicated. He puts these nine steel rings around his dick. I guess it helps with holding interaction for longer, falls asleep, three hours later, wakes up with like intense swelling and pain, and then nine hours after that, so we're now twelve

hours after he initially puts these rings on. He has to go to the emergency room because he can't get them off. Yeah, and again that's like a common thing. Like guys with their jonk they're very like weird about it and get treatment and stuff, and so yeah, this is this is called the cock ring. Usually I hate I don't like using such vulgar words, but that's that's

like rubber. So that's what you should get, is the silicone ones because they if there is a problem, they could easily be snipped off with a pair of scissors or something. But the metal ones probably work better because they're they're more rigid. And what it does is it increases sexual satisfaction. It could cause longer erections, It could cause a guy to last longer. So sometimes they put it at the base of their penis, or they even pull like their testicles through this these rings, like this

guy actually did in this case. So when you see the photo of it, it's like this engorged penis with like testicle and just it looks like it's about to explode, and it looks so painful, and you know, you go to the hospital, and you always think when you go to the hospital, they're going to be able to help you with no matter what. But in this case, they're like, we can't remove this. It's too thick of metal. We can't.

We don't have the tools to do it. And they had to call the fire department to come remove it. And this is this Legit happened not to my husband, but to a fireman I know had to do the same exact thing. So it happens. Not I wouldn't say it happens all the time, but it definitely happens. And in this particular case, they had to use a circular saw to cut through these metal rings because they were

so thick. But then you go on with, well, okay, there's a patient with a very crucial important penis right underneath of this, and putting a power tool next to it that could not only amputate the penis if it went through enough, but it also could create such like friction and heat that it could burn. And then you're heating up the metal at the same time while you're sawing it. So there's all these factors to take into consideration.

And so what they did was they put a tongue to prester or like a popsicle stick, underneath of the rings, and then they poured cold saline water while the firefighter was sawing the ring off of the guy. I mean, this just has to be the unspoken side of firefighting, because you know, every firefighter we know is not going to be like going around like, oh, listen to this

awesome job I went to yesterday. So they probably they probably hate it because they just can visualize the feeling, like apparently this guy was in so much pain they had to give him opioid pain relief and hopefully that kind of knocked him out or made him kind of out of his mind that he didn't realize that there was a fireman with a power tool at his dick. But yeah, and how embarrassing, Like what if this is in the town you live in, and then you have

to see these people and I don't know. Yeah, yeah, I don't know. I mean, it's the thing is about the hospital is it's like we talk about all of these stories and stuff, and we you know, we joke around about it, but we don't when patients ca man and stuff. It's like we just we just do our job and that's it. And the er people are the same way. Like they you can't like if anybody says, oh, you guys are being insensitive or whatever, it's just like

you're you're not a human being. Then, like you can't have a person come in with a vibrator and salad tongues in their ass and not just be like that's a little unusual. That's that's you know what I mean, Like it's not yeah, because I'm waiting for the comment on this, that's like you guys are kink shaming. Like I'm not kinkha be smart about that at all. It's just not it's not typical and that and that's why we're talking about these stories because we know a lot

of you listeners are not typical. So we're just trying to save you. Really, we're just trying to do a public service announcement. Yeah, it's always the more you know, like now you know you can't stick certain things all the way up your butt, and you certainly can't stick salad tongues up there because they're gonna get fully enclosed. Like I've just learned myself. So everybody's learning every day and that's the go. All right, Well, let's talk about

another kinky case. This one's called Don't Judge a dead Body by Its Penis. So basically, this seventy year old man is just eating lunch and then he starts having like coughing and difficulty breathing. Call nine one one nine one one shows up and he's pronounced it. So investigators start getting suspicious because when they're looking around his house, there's like these really pornographic pictures and apparently this guy was known for these like crazy genital piercings. Yeah, so

he they did the examination at autopsy. So just because he had this weird porn in his house and stuff, and he was known in the town to have crazy genital piercings, they started thinking that the case was suspicious, which I kind of feel like is judging someone for being kinky, right, Like, there's no other way you could die because you have these penis piercings, so it must be some weird shit, right exactly. So at autopsy they examine him and they are like, I have pictures of

the piercings and they are outrageous. He's got things going in as urethra. His penis is cut in half on purpose. And a lot of people do these types of things. They put in jewelry or they do this extreme body modification of splitting the penis in half because they think it helps give the urethra more of a essential pleasures, like it makes it the orgasms feel better and stuff. And other people just do it because they think, like the jewelry looks good. Do you want to hear something

actually fucked up. They do this in some cultures where they split the penis of young boys that are turning from like young boys to men. And if the boys like cry and show that they are not enjoying it, like it doesn't feel good and it's it's upsetting them, they're like not considered as much of a man as as one that would just like sit there and take it's absolutely ridiculous. It is ridiculous, but like it's it's cultural, so we can't talk shit on it because it's just

part of their culture. It's seen as a sign of fear in these children. So that's like a side note. But so at autopsy, they have this this guy's penis and they're really kind of like taking a lot of photos of it and dissecting it out to see like where this piercing goes and stuff. And I don't know, as a person that does autopsies, I'm kind of like, don't I don't really think that that's relevant to his

cause of death. It didn't look like it was like massively infected, because like maybe if the patient died of sepsis or something, you would be like, so if a person has sepsis or like a widespread bacterial infection, at autopsy, you would first backtrack and be like, Okay, where did the infection start? So then you would like maybe look at some gnarly piercings in the penis and say, okay, that's where the infection started. Then that would be more necessary.

But it didn't really seem to like have anything to do with his cause of death according to like the symptoms that he presented with. So they do that. So that's the external exam, and you could see all these crazy body modifications he's so basically they're spending a lot of time looking at his body modifications. Yeah. So so then they do the internal exam and it's like bread and butter autopsy, clear cut. He has like pasta lodged inside of his trachea, and his cause the death was

like brotoked on his pasta at lunch. It wasn't anything to do with his weird, kinky sex life, like nothing nefarious, and like they just, you know, we're spending so much time looking at the other stuff that it was just the answer was in front of them the whole time. Yeah. So it's it's still an interesting case, but it's also it's also a lesson of like you made this something

that was nothing. Yeah. I mean, in my opinion, I wondered, like, you know, seventy years old, I just wonder, I feel like that's kind of older to have such an extreme modification like that. I wonder when it like got done, when he got it done? Well, he was known in the town. I wonder if for good or bad? Like what was he known for? Was it like well, he was known for the for the for the penis Pierson.

But I don't know, like in reference to what was it, Like he has this done and it's like the most mind blowing thing ever in a good way, or this guy's a freak. What's going on? I don't know. Yeah, I don't know either. This last one's called sack of Potatoes and this is gonna be quite a journey. So an older man was living with his forty five year old son who had a really long history of mental

illness from depression bipolar personality disorder. According to the family, he had been medicated for this for quite a long time and was seemingly normal, but clearly something was wrong because one night him and the dad got in a fight. They started fighting on the ground and the sun starts stabbing him with a butter knife and banging his head all along the ground. So they determined that the stab

wound actually is what killed the guy. But you're saying that the head bangs could have happened before he died

because of bruising. Yeah, So in the photographs there's a lot of bruising on the guy's head or contusions, which is a fancy word for saying bruising, but that indicates that his heart was beating when he was when he got those injuries, So it would have had to been either before the stab wounds or like as the guy was still dying, because his heart would have had to been beating in order to have contusions like that on his head. But it just shows that there was a

lot of trauma. Like this guy, this kid really wanted to kill his dad. And that's when you kill either a daughter or a son kills their father, it's called patricide. Yeah, that's really I didn't know there was specific terms for it, so that's really interesting. And it does seem like a very passionate crime, you know, with how involved it was with the stabbing, the head banging, the fistfighting and everything.

So he then called his sister and his brother in law to say that it had been taken care of, and then went to a neighbor's house and was like waiting for them to answer the door, Which how scary you must have that have been if you were the neighbor. Yeah, we always hear cases of neighbors involved in these cases,

just completely innocent people. But I believe the neighbor did know that there was something going on with those two that they would hear them fighting, and so you know, sometimes the neighbors know, you know, when you live close to your neighbors, they could hear things, and things don't come as a shock to them. Okay, So now get

into the autopsy and what they saw with it. So at autopsy, like Marie was saying, they saw contusions all over the guy's head because he was slamming his head on the ground, and he was stabbed at least seven times in the abdomen with a butter knife, which you wouldn't think could do that, but I mean anything could really impel a person and cause damage like that if

you push it hard enough. And when they took out his A order, they saw that there was a huge incision, which means that the A order is the biggest artery in the body that brings all of the oxygenated blood all over the body, and when you put a hole in it, it will bleed. It will cause massive internal bleeding. So he the guy died pretty fast after getting that injury. But the most shocking part was on the external exam.

We always look inside of the mouth because we checked the teeth, because that could tell you a lot about the person's history of like your dental health really tells a lot about your your history, your health history. So we look at inside of the mouth. And when examiners looked inside of this guy's mouth, they saw this big piece of wood kind of a thing in his throat, like deep inside his throat, but it was sticking out. And when they took this item out of the mouth,

do you want to tell them what it was? A set of keys. It was a set of keys that were shoved in his mouth. You know, that might be the most shocking part of this story for you, But mine is the conclusion of this which is after this all went down. You know, they determined that this guy was suffering from pretty intense schizophrenia and he had been

having like hallucinations. So they determined that during this fight, and what caused it was because he believed that this impostor had replaced his dad that was threatening him in his dad's life. So that's why he attacked this quote unquote impostor. And at some point that he perceived that this impostor was an inanimate object such as a sec

of potatoes. Yeah, totally. He was diagnosed with schizo effective disorder with a cute paranoid delusion, and this was a case where they said that he which I honestly like I kind of agree with this, Like you want to be like, Okay, this guy's a jerk, he killed his dad and this and that, but like these are these are the reasons that there's these laws set in place for people that are dealing with mental health disorders and had like reasons of insanity, right, like this is why

this was done. Yeah, And it's just it's so scary to think that you could have a mental health disorder that would cause you to believe something like that that a person that you love that raised you and stuff was was not real and was possessed and it was a sack of potatoes trying to kill you and your father. Like they think about this really on the outside, like how ridiculous that statement is, but for these people, it's very real and true and causes them to do these

crazy things. Yeah, and I think it was all a lot of it was just because he was like not taking his medications correct or correct. Yeah. So I guess the family came out and said that they believed he was on the medications and he seemed to be doing fine, But it seems like the day before the murder that the father had called the doctor and said he didn't think he was taking them correctly or was like skipping them.

And as we all know, with these psychiatric meds, you can't really just like skip one and then have one the next day. It messes everything up. So it seems like he was kind of just not on the right track where nobody was monitoring him taking these drugs, and it just escalated into this really horrific scene. Yeah, I wonder if if anyone would ever be in a similar situation like this where if there's if there's some kind of protocol to making sure that these people take their medications.

It's because once the person starts taking it, they feel normal, and then they even act normal to people around them, and they just think, okay, they're taking their medicine and stuff, and it's it's so scary because I think that sometimes these medications could even make people worse in some situations if they're not taken correctly. Yeah, agreed. So, so it's a terrible story, but really really shocking end. Well, if you guys have your own shocking stories, you know, you

could submit them to us. So we have a new email that you could send your story to. It is stories at Mothernosdeath dot com. I'm also going to include that in the description of the episode so you can see her to email and you know, give us really good descriptors, tell us everything from start to finish. If you want it featured in the gross room too, you could also send some pictures. We love seeing pictures and we would love to describe what's going on in them.

Well that's the thing, like, we we love hearing these stories, but I don't know about you, but I'm like, I need to know what that looks like. And that's why the grossrooms so great because you could really get a visual with all these stories. And we are eventually going to make a tab in the grossroom that has all of the stories that we talk about in this segment, so I think it'll be really easy for you guys to find it. Yeah, so thank you guys so much.

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