Mother Knows Death starring Nicole and Jemmy and Maria qk Hi. Everyone welcome The Mother Knows Death. Let's get started with the story of the day. This story is exactly why I avoid any aquatic activity whatsoever. So in the Florida Panhandle, a woman was swimming at Watersound Beach around one twenty in the afternoon. She was just past the sandbar when she was bitten by a shark, which is kind of unusual because sharks don't really just bite people out of nowhere.
And then reports said that she experienced significant trauma to the midsection of her body and part of her left arm had to be amputated. So we can only imagine how horrific this attack was. And her husband was by her and watched this whole thing go down. So not even two hours later, just four miles away at Seacrest Beach, two teenage girls also were just past the sandbar and they were attacked by a shark. Yeah, it seems like it's happening more, But I don't know if it's just
like they reported in the news more. But I've been just like scrolling on Instagram and stuff, and I see videos that all people are posting throughout Florida, and they're very close, Like these people are standing on the sand and recording these huge sharks that are coming almost to where people are standing on the beach. It's just nuts. Yeah,
and they're saying like proper protocol was. After the first attack, they alerted other beaches in the area that a situation had happened, but it takes a couple of hours for them to, you know, alert everybody in the nearby towns. They have flags on the beach that are color coded which indicate if the beach is safe or not, which I'm not educated enough with the beach to like look
at flags. Would you ever think of did you? So we went we actually went to this beach that doesn't really but yeah, it's it's at that place that we went called the Topsail. It's like near Dusting kind of in the Panhandle, and we went there and there when we went, there was flags on the beach. So no, I didn't know what they meant, but they were there,
and I was like, Okay, this means something. So then I looked it up and it was there was like a hurricane of bruin in the Gulf and the waters were really rough, So that's what the color coded flag meant. But I did have to look it up online to see what it was, So I feel like most people would have no idea. And we only live about an hour from the shore, so it's not like we're totally
feign to the beach, but I don't do they. They they have closed it sometimes because the water levels are are unsafe, like there's a lot of algaeer bacteria or something. But I mean, we don't have rarely have a hurricane situation, definitely. I don't think that we've ever had a shark situation. So it's just like, no, like our ocean's just like
a different league, you know. Yeah. So basically, the attacks were so close together that they didn't even have enough time to properly warn people and close down the beach, which is kind of nuts. I don't know. They didn't
say if it was the same shark. I guess they have no idea, but it seems like it would have to be right they I actually wrote a post in the grocery room once about how they forensically identify what kind of shark attacks people, and showed the distance between the teeth marks and the kind of puncture wounds that are present and stuff. It's really interesting actually because they could say, Okay, this bite is this wide, and only these sharks have a mouth that's that wide, so it
narrows it down to that. And then they'll say like, okay, these sharks are only in these waters, so then it narrows it down further, and then they could tell by the diameter of the teeth, like how if it was a baby or if it was bigger. So they will actually be able to tell based upon the wounds if they really care to do that. Yeah, but again it's one of those like obviously a lot of people go on in the ocean on the beach and everything, but you have to remember it is the shark's home, so
you are technically going into its home. It's not right that it attacked you, but you have to be aware at all times. I did think it was funny officials where like you have to be situationally aware, Like I don't think when you see the shark you're willingly hanging around. It probably just happens so fast. I feel like it's like my entire life, it's always been like if you don't swim too far out you're fine, right. I always thought that if you were standing in the water, No,
I know, that's why it's scary. Like, I just always thought that if you were standing in the water close to the beach, that the shark couldn't even get that close. But they just showed a great white sharks washed up on some shore in Florida, and the thing is still alive and huge. So they are coming that close to the water or to the edge, So you do have
to be aware of that. And we went in that ocean up to our waist, So everybody does it right, especially because it feels like bathwater and it's so clear and beautiful. So the thing is is that this is a typical news thing. There's only been last year fourteen people in the whole entire world died from a shark bite. That's that's nothing compared to the billions of people that
live in the world. Yeah, fourteen people, right, and out of those they think that four of them were provoked, meaning that someone was tantalizing the shark and trying to like start shit with a shark. Right, But so ten people were swimming and got killed by a shark. I mean, and people say, like you I'm not going in the ocean, but yet you get in a car when like ten people every minute die in an accident. Just seriously, like I know, I'm I'm in the weird minority, irrational, I know,
I just I don't like any aquatic activities whatsoever. Or so just when I.
Hear this as you don't like being outside, which is why me and Ricky were actually making fun of you and saying that the gay Lord Opryland Hotel was perfect for you because you were outside, but you were really inside.
It was so it was like it was contained. There was no bugs, it was temperature control, there was no sunshine, there was nothing that would like typically bother you about being outside. I like being outside, it just has to be really specific situations, like I really like being in the mountains. I really don't have issues being in mountain landscapes. Yeah,
but you're like on a porch. You don't actually like take hikes and stuff through the wood to go kayaking or any because that involves the water, which have clearly established on a spot. I do not like participating it. Anyway. The specialists are saying that, you know, sharks are typically attracted to like bruises, cut scrapes. They can also be really attracted to jewelry because the shine of the jewelry
and the water can mimic scales on fish. So I guess, like, don't wear any anklets or toe rings and just feel aware of what you have on in the water. I just don't believe that when they say they don't typically
attack humans, Like why would they their food? Yeah, they eat meat, and they're meat and if they're starving enough, Like why wouldn't they Guess what, Like I would kill a human and eat it if I was like, like there was no other food left on earth, Right, I don't want to eat a human, but like I don't typically eat humans, But what don't you do that when you're desperately Yeah, we talked about didn't anybody ever see alive? Yeah? We talked about that story of the plane crash. What
was it a soccer team, Yeah, from Europe. Yeah, So the soccer team got in the plane crash and they were like stranded in the middle of nowhere and they had to resort to eating each other to live. But they ended up getting out of the situation. So sometimes you got to go to really de'serate measures. But now their reunions are like super awkward. Yeah. I mean they made this entire show called Yellow Jackets mimicking that event. I think I never watched it, but I heard it
was really scary. But yeah, I guess I don't know be situationally aware, as officials say, but I think it's pretty impossible, like if I don't think you're gonna realize the sharks there until it's like on use, right, Yeah, okay, celebrity news right. Last week, British celebrity doctor Michael Moseley had been reported missing after he did not return from a walk while on vacation on sim Island in Greece.
So the search took a few days and eventually his lifeless body was found about a two hour walk from where he originally departed, and they only found him because the mayor and some journalists had been on some boat I guess, in part of the search effort and had saw him lying face down behind a fence near the
edge of the beach. I don't know this guy. To you, I don't, But I actually found this story because our good friend doctor Lindsay Fitzharris had posted about how sad she was that this happened because he was the first person she went on TV with and he was really awesome. Well that's a bummer. Yeah, So she had posted this thing just saying that he made her really comfortable and he was a really nice guy, and all these people have shared stories that he was a really nice person.
So this is a bummer. But yeah, I was gonna say because a lot of people have emailed us on Instagram and through the Grosserroom and have said that they wanted us to cover this because they were really upset and devastated by it. But I just wasn't really. I feel like his name sounds familiar, but I don't. I
don't really know who he is. Yeah, they did do and they did an autopsy on him, right, they found them, but they they had found short circuits TV that he was that he didn't look like he was in any danger and he kind of looked like he sat down on a rock because he wasn't feeling well, and so
that's how he was found. Yeah, they're saying from surveillance footage that they believe he like was going through some type of illness or didn't feel good and he started like stumbl and fell down on the rocks near the beach, and that's when he sat down, and they're believing he sat down because he might have felt like he was going to pass out or something. They did say it
was extremely hot that day, so I wonder if that's what. Ultimately, they didn't reveal his official cause of death, right, they just said they knew it was from natural causes. Yeah, so they looked at his body, and of course if it's that hot and you're laying out essentially bathing on a rock, then he was probably had some kind of decomposition when his body it was like four days before they found his body in the sun like that is
definitely not good. But they said that he had his hand over his chest as if he was having pain in his chest, do you know what I mean? And you sometimes if someone has never had a heart attack and then they have a heart attack, sometimes you can't see evidence of it grossly, like with your naked eye in the heart muscle, because it's recent and it hasn't
caused any scarring yet in the heart. If you have a person that's had a couple of heart attacks and then you look at their heart attack at autopsy or look at their heart. At autopsy, you could see the scars from the previous heart attacks, so if this was his first one, the next thing would be to look at his heart and his coronary arteries, which you can
see if they are occluded or blocked or not. But normally, just to confirm that it was definitely a heart attack, they would look at a piece of the heart muscle under the microscope, just to because you can see it under the microscope if there was death to the heart muscle, that's really interesting. I was wondering, remember we had covered that family of hikers that all died. I was wondering if, oh, yeah, they had I think they had hyperthermia though, right, hyperthermia.
I like, I was curious if it could have possibly been like severe dehydration because of how hot it was. But yeah, I mean, it seems just like a really unfortunate event that he just was like trying to go on a walk, you know, and then this happened. Yeah, And that's something I always keep in mind because even when you're talking about that family of hikers, they were young. I think they were only in their thirties, and they had a little baby window them, and they all died.
And the dog, and they all died. And when you hear about how much water that they had on them, it just to be in those kinds of elements for that many hours, it just never would have been enough water to like they had enough water on them that you would take to go walk around the block of your house or something like not in a situation like that, and then people realize that they're in trouble, and like, what was he going to do? If this guy, especially
this guy he was on a hike. It sucks because it seems like he wasn't too far away from being able to find somebody to help him. Yeah, they said something. There was only like ninety seconds away from help, which is so sad. Yeah, it is sad, especially because so many times when people have a heart attack, you could get CPR and go to the hospital and survive. So it's and he was young too, right in a sixties. H Yeah, that's it's a bumber. I hate here and
stuff like that. All right, So our next story is about t Sha Campbell. She recently revealed that she's been in remission from you say this one sarcoidos All right, So what is sarcoidosis? So it's an autoimmune disease. And I was just telling you about that yesterday was some a couple of days ago with someone you know that
has multiple pulmonary nodules. So it's an autoimmune disease that causes inflammation, and it causes these nodules that you could get in your skin and your lungs called granulomas, which are just like a clump of inflammatory cells. And remember we did a celebrity death dissection in the grosser room on Bernie mac back in like two thousand and twenty one. I think, yeah, it was like a long time ago, so he had that too. So what happens is it's the same as all autoimmune diseases. They can be They
could range from mild to severe. It tends to be more severe in African American people. Everyone can get it, but it seems to be worse in Black people, and once they get treatment, it could be in remission, like it never gets healed, it never goes away, but they can be in remission. So she's saying that she's in remission. She first got diagnosed when she was it was when she had her first kid, right she started feeling like she had a cold, and she just had a cough
that wouldn't go away. That's like a very classic presentation of this, like dry cough that doesn't go away. And once she got worked up, they saw that she had multiple nodules in her lungs. And then she got pregnant again, and pregnancy in itself could just like trigger this stuff to get worse. So she it got like a little bit more severe, but now she has it under control. Yeah, so that's definitely good to hear. It's kind of crazy that they both died or not both died, that they
both had this condition. Yeah, well she he didn't. They didn't say that he technically died from it. Yeah, but he had. I kind of disagree with that because he had pneumonia and and but he got the pneumonia because he was on the medications for the sar kuaidosis, which can make you immunosuppress, which could make you more prone to getting pneumonia. So I feel like it's maybe not the exact cause, but like a secondary cause. But yeah,
I what is she in anyway? Because I used to love that show Martin when I was like a teenager or early. I feel like I was a teenager when that show came out, I loved it, and she was in she was in Martin, and then she was in My Wife and Kids, which that's like what I'm familiar with her from because Joan and Joe used to watch that all the time. Oh yes, I always, yeah, I never. I never saw anything that she was in after Martin. No, I liked My Wife and Kids a lot, so that
show's good. I don't I don't think I've ever seen Martin. Maybe I have to go back. I don't know, Like I feel like I used to watch it and like think it was like the funniest shit ever. But that was seriously in the nineties. It's really good. You know, like CNN does those specials every couple months, like where like for what the nineteen nineties. Yeah, they did one called History of the Sitcom or something that was a couple part series and they talked about Martin a lot
on that one. That special is really cool if anybody's interested in, like the history of television. It just really got into like, you know, I'm Mary Tyler Moore. She said she was on birth control and everybody was like, cancel that show. This is problematic, just like what was going on in history at the time these shows were coming out. Yeah, that's really so yeah, actually it was.
That shows really cool because even if you're not interested in television history per se, it's cool to see what was going on in just the history and pop culture during those decades. So yeah, because now when we think about that, it's just like okay, yeah, like that's nothing, right exactly, it's the same. It's the same thing when you look back at like Elvis being controversial for like shaking his like Pelvis, and you're just like, God, I
wish that that was the least of our wories now, right. Yeah, Me and Rachel saw the Elvis movie when it came out, and they were showing him like he would shake his hips and girls would pass out and we were cracking up. No, it's ridiculous, it's true. It's even with the Beatles though, like, yeah, women would like pass out screaming. It's just I just don't know anyone in the world that I would do
that for, except Gabe of course. But all right, So, Tisha has said that she's dedicated her time to maintaining her stress levels, which she said were really problematic for her, and just you know, exercising and keeping a good diet and that's really helped with her. Yesat that's great. She's so cute. I know she's beauty. I'm happy she's doing well. Yeah, all right, So this next one commence major eye roll.
So Nick Cannon is revealed that Doctor Squatch, which is the men's body care company, has taken out an insurance policy on his testicles for ten million dollars. Oh my god, he's such an attention Yeah. So wait, what is the insurance on his balls for? Like? What did his balls do? Besides doesn't isn't this the guy that has like twenty kids or something? For those that don't know, Nick Cannon's
like this TV personality. He's been on MTV forever. I think he used to sing, I'm like majorly flopping on this part of my pop culture history. Anyway, he is. His first children were with Mariah Carey. She has twins with him. Those were his first kids. He now has twelve children, and most of these kids have been born in the last couple of years, and some of them are only born like a month or two apart, because he just keeps impregnating all these different women. Are they
all okay with this. I guess he has an arrangement with them. I've heard he's like going to inherit a billion dollars from his family, like he comes from a very wealthy family. And then like canon like like the cameras. No, I think that that's spelled different. I don't think that's him. But I've heard he comes from a really wealthy family, so he just grew up in really wealthy situation. And he's been on TV forever, so he is independently wealthy himself.
He was with Mariah Carey. I'm sure there's money involved in that situation somehow. But I guess he has an arrangement with these women, like I'm not going to be with you, I'm not gonna be your boyfriend, but you're gonna have my kid and I'll come over and see the kids, and he like every year takes Christmas card pictures with all the kids and like rotate seeing them out. I guess I don't think this is it's really good for it's really good for their mental health. They're gonna
be totally normal when they go geat. Like, I don't think this is right to just keep having kids and then barely being a presence in their life at all. I don't think people understand how much that affects a child in that situation. I guess the mothers are also consciously making this decision. So so his balls are getting in short so he could keep having kids. Yeah, I guess so. So I guess what there's saying is like they assessed his assets based on size, his favorite features,
his bedroom maneuvers, whatever that means. But basically, then the men's care company made it commercial making fun of this, saying he had balls of gold and he's keeping humanity alive, the population afloat, and that he has twelve kids that he knows of. So I don't really think this is funny. So they do this is he's whatever, it's all, all of it is for attention, right, It's just but they do this. There's Heidi Klume had insured her legs, I think for a million dollars. J Low ensured her butt.
I'm pretty sure I understand how you can ensure one body part. What's that girl named Holly Madison? Madison, she ensured her boobs. But the thing is is that you it's difficult to get insurance policies for these types of ridiculous things because like that I'm gonna go enshure or my brain because I can't work if something happens. I don't know, but I mean, you have to go and prove that you have this. Your boobs are like making you money and they're better than everybody else's and they
deserve to be insured or something. It's ridiculous. But guess who does it? Celebrities because they have money to spend because a regular person their insurance premium is probably like ten thousand dollars a month or whatever something ridiculous, and they're like, oh, that's nothing to them, so they buy these ridiculous things. But how people wouldn't do that? All is making him money. He has to pay for all these children. Well maybe he's does he sell like a
cream for balls through that company. It seems like, yeah, they're doing a collaboration, but like, yeah, so that's probably why because they're now they're saying that his balls are making him money or they're making the company money or something. It's just the whole thing is ridiculous. Like he's been a laughing stock in Hollywood for the last couple of years because he just keeps popping out all these and everybody is the same argument as me, Like he can't
possibly spending substantial enough time with these children. If anything, his presence is probably more harmful to them because he's only briefly in their lives. Some people think that that money is all that you need, and you could just hire all the people in the world to take care of whatever. Mariah Carrey's probably telling her twins, like, don't even pay attention to that douchebag. I'll take care of you for the rest of your life, Like I'll be
your mom and your dad. Just don't even worry about that. It's just it's not I don't know, it's not fair, Like I don't have a problem with people having lots of kids. I just think you should try your best to do it where they have the best quality of life, not just because you think it's a fun thing to do. Well, clearly he thinks that like his balls are better than everyone else is so like because that's that's all that matters. Dusk is guilty of this too. He keeps procreating with
a bunch of different people too. It's like chillous, get over yourself, bro.
Yeah.
Side note, though, I think we should try to get Holly Madison on the show because she figured out later in her life that she had autism, and she's involved in a bunch of these true crime cases that I think our audience. But yeah, I'd like to talk to her that way. I loved Girls next Door. I am curious about the I'm curious about the adult diagnosis of autism. Yeah, so, so I would love to see. We will try to
reach out and see what happens. But all right. Next, Actress Jennifer Esposito revealed on Jamie Lynn Sigler and Christina Applegate's podcast that she was diagnosed with the quote worst case of Celiac disease her doctors had ever seen. So, Jamie Linn Sigler, she would are you familiar with her? She was Meadow on Sopranos. I never watched it. I can't believe you know about Sopranos. So I know everybody thinks that's shocking. I just I never watched. She was
the daughter on Sopranos. Christina Applegate, we know is on a million shows. She was all married with children. She on everything Don't tell Mom that they don't tell Mom Angerman. Angerman, they both have all the great. They both have MS, so they have a podcast where they talk about health and stuff. So Jennifer Esposito went on their show to
talk about her siliac journey. She said she had watched people and her family experience issues with their health and thought it was normal that if you just kept having a major problem, you'd cover it up with a pill. Doesn't this sound familiar for family? Yes, So she said she was dealing with fatigue, hair loss, difficulty walking, vomiting, sinus infections, and more. Her health continued to decline until
she was in really bad shape. She said she was going to the doctor and she kept getting blown off a lot. This is also a topic we cover so much here, which is people go to the doctor and they get blown off. Finally, she went to one doctor that referred her to another and they figured out she had silliac disease. Yeah, which is simple to start working
up with with blood work and endoscopy. It's it's not that difficult to diagnose it, really, But this is the same thing happened with us, like going to neurologists after neurologist and nobody ever, there's some people in medicine that just don't really believe that you could heal yourself by the foods that you eat. And I mean I was getting treated for migraines for so many years, being given all these insane pills like anti seizure drugs. Yah, just ridiculous.
Who knows how they damaged my brain really over the course of all those years. And finally, I just after doing research on my own and stuff, was like, Okay, I'm gonna cut out gluten. And I did, and it just changed my life as far as getting migraines anymore. Just I mean, I it would be to the point where I couldn't go to work until later, I couldn't get out of bed for a couple hours. I was like, I just have to go lay down for two hours until this goes away. And none of that anymore, just
from cutting out gluten. So it's just a matter of people not knowing the other symptoms that come with it, because a lot of people just associate celiac with diarrhea, weight loss. Yeah, there's just so many other you could have skin manifestations, there's so many other symptoms that you could present with. I mean, with both of our migraine situations, you know, It's like, I don't even know if I said this when I just went to the neurologist a
couple of weeks ago. So when I first went to the neurologist, I was having seventeen migraine days a month, which is insane to be having migraines that often. I went there and he didn't really ask me that many questions about my lifestyle or anything. He was just like, I'm gonna put you on Topamax, which is an anti seizure medication, and then gave me Immatrix, which is a migraine medication for when I had breakthroughs. So I'm on
this super intense medication. You had been on it before and were like, listen, you're gonna get tangling in your hands and feet, your memory's gonna be slow, like all this stuff, right, He didn't tell me it wasn't. It wasn't even like that stuff is all mine or I couldn't talk. Yeah, And I think, I honestly feel like I still have side effects of that that like what
is happening in my brain. I have a hard time getting out of my mouth because being I was on a high high dose of that for years, Yes, for like five years. Yes, so you told me that this was going to be a thing. So I had no idea. I remember making a doctor's appointment one day and they were like, what's your phone number? And I'm like, I don't know what it is. I've had the same phone number since I was thirteen years old. I was like, I don't know what it is, which is scary. So eventually,
you know, I started having stomach issues. I cut out eating gluten because I figured out that was bothering my stomach, and then shocker, my headaches started going away. And then I was having less migraine days a month. And then last year I started taking a daily vitamin that has magnesium in B twelve and all these other things in it. Again, these things were never mentioned. I think I have one
headache every six weeks, and it's directly correlated to my menstruation. Yeah, it's just not So then i go there a couple of weeks and I'm like, I'm barely having headaches because sometimes I do need the breakthrough medication and he's like, ohh like like he cured me. And I'm like, yeah, they don't. They don't need Yeah, they don't want to hear it, they don't want to hear it. And gluten causes some people have, and a lot of it is because of the way that it's grown now as opposed to hell
it used to be grown. That's why you're seeing an increase of it. And people just have inflammation because of it. Everyone doesn't, but some people are more sensitive to it than others. Some people can't even have a breadcrumb because it throws their whole entire GI system. There's just different ranges of it, and I'm just glad to see that she figured out. I kind of think it's nuts that she said she had eliminated all this stuff from her diet, like gluten, and I don't know why she cut out
soy and dairy and sugar. It's just like it's just so hard to avoid corn products when you're gluten free. Yeah, but corn like actually whenever, because now that I haven't had glute for all these years, right, whenever I get bloated, I'm just like, Okay, I must have had an exposure. But every single time I look at it and it's like a product that has corn it really so yeah, like some it's just it's it's known to make people
like Gussie. It's it's it's a vegetable that that breaks down like that, Like it it is just crazy, like the way you get blown off because like I went to a holistic doctor the other day and like she sat with me for a straight up hour and a half and went through like my entire lifestyle habits with me. I feel like that's how it should go when you're
having it. But she's That's why I told you to go to her, because she she's helpful, like she you don't always need to take drugs to make things go away. Sometimes you sometimes you do. There's some like there's and and I take like fears that when I take if I do get a migraine, it's like it's a miracle drug, Like it makes it go away. It's the only thing that's how for me that makes it go. Yeah, that's
how I feel. Like I take you brel V for mine and when I take it, I don't get another one until for six weeks, you know, so it works really Like but yeah, there's and there's definitely like lots of drugs out there that are that are miracle drugs, but people are on way too many of them and don't need it to be just you could fix a lot of it the simple changes in your life, like changing the foods you eat and just going like she told me, just going on a twenty minute walk every day could
significantly change my life. Like, think about that. Yeah, It's just it's just nuts the way people get blown off. Like I just feel like every week we just report on these horrific stories. Well a lot. You just have to keep in mind all the time that the medical field in general, a large portion of it is is financially compensated through pharmaceutical companies. Yeah, so you always have to take that in mind that doctors are making money off of it, hospitals are making money off of it.
It's it's just the way it is, everybody. So watch Dope Sick on Hulu because it really focuses on the pharmaceutical side of the opioid epidemic and the incentives the salespeople were getting. So it's just horrific. All right, all right, freak accidents. I really hope my husband's not listening to this podcast this because this is truly his worst fear ever. So Ricky, if you're listening, turn it off now. In Indonesia, a forty five year old woman went missing after she
failed to return home. Her husband found belongings and got suspicious. So the husband and fellow villagers had went searching and found a sixteen foot python which a quote large belly. They decided to cut open the snake, and inside they found the missing woman, fully clothed and deceased. I don't is this a news story, because I swear when I read this, I was like, I posted a video of this like two years ago in the gross room of a snake in Indonesia being cut open and then pulling
a woman out fully dressed. Well, does this happen like often? They said in the article that this is not necessarily rare, but it is unlikely to happen all right, Well that if you're interested in your grocery members, that video is a post that is titled dinner. She had literally been swallowed whole by this python, like I. So then of course I went to YouTube to try to vision this right. So wat's four YouTube videos of pythons eating whole alligators.
They're crocodile. You go on the grocer room and watched a python eating a whole human. There's a little lady that's inside of the stomach of this pie is insane. The way these snakes like wrap their body around and like trap the people and then just like unhinge their jaw and like suck them in. Essentially, why is this a fear of Ricky's at all? There is no snake that's even remote that lives in America, and he's never going to Indonesia. Not getting followed hole by a snake
is his biggest fear. He just Indiana Jones style hates snakes, so if he stays in Jersey, he would never even have to have access to a snake besides one that's the size of an earthwork. Can explain it? Oh my god? All right. Next, a video surface online allegedly showing two people getting electrocuted in a hot tub at a Mexican resort. So this video popped up showing a bunch of people crowded around a hot tub and screaming, and two people
were pulled out, one of them got CPR. Witnesses claimed that this surge of electricity shot through the hot tub, which electrocuted the two people. So I want to ask you first, doesn't electrocution mean that you've died by exactly, so they can't stand how shit is written. They had an electric shot, so shut it. Okay, yes, but that doesn't sound as dramatic as electrocution, So write that into story title and don't worry about that. It's completely inaccurate. Yeah,
so nobody died. One person may have had CPR went to the hospital, and the other person like got up and walked around. Right. Yeah, so and look quote confused. So they're saying ambulances showed up to treat the people, but the resort is not commenting on what happened. Nobody's really commenting on what happened, so they don't know if more people were affected or what exactly was the cause. I feel like we talked about a story like this
before with a hot tub electrocuting someone. Maybe not on here, Maybe I'm not sure. All right, Next another an actual electrocution story. As sixteen year old teen in Italy was in the bath on the phone with her friend. Her phone was on the battery, so she had it plugged into the wall and was holding the phone plugged in over the bathtub. The call suddenly dropped, so the friend had called police because she got worried about it, and
then they showed up to the house. The girl was electrocuted to death, and it appears that she had dropped the phone with the charger still in it in the tub. This might happen more often than we even hear about, because this sounds like something that people wouldn't even really think about. Yes, you know how, there's always I actually have another post of this in the grosser room of someone that wasn't it a person that was found dead in the bathtub that put like a hair dryer or
a radio or something inside of the bathtub. I think your post was a radio. But there is an episode of Six Feet Under that I will never forget in my life where a lady had a hair dryer on the counter and I think her cat knocked it over and the switch got hit on the way down and she was in the tub and it electrocutitor and killed her. Was it on, Yeah, like when the cat knocked it, it had this It seems like it was. It was. It was a total stretch. But you know, at the
beginning of every episode they show up. That was such a good show. I love that show. But yeah, so the one the one in the grosser room is like a guy that's in the bathtub. But I remember, just you know, even when you buy a new hair dryer, now it's like, don't use it in the shower, and I use it like who, I don't know. But the new thing is like phones are peopled. I listen to podcast when I'm taking a shower. The girls listen to
music when they're taking a shower. It's just I mean, I think so since we just recently got the bathroom redone, there's like all these rules that you're not allowed to have an outlet near the tub. When they were putting new outlets in the bathroom, Like because remember you got Gabe that towelwarmer thing for Father's Day or something, we are never able to plug it in because there's no plug anywhere near the top. Speaking of, I don't know what they get. If bothered, you know what you should do.
You should take the towel warmer that's still in the corner where the bathtub is and wrap it up again and give it to them. I dare you to do that. That would be hilarious. Well you're gonna have to, well gets so uncomfortable, it'll be great okay, give it to me tomorrow. Put just put it like in a giant Amazon box or something, and be like, the fucker you never use this, Like here's your hint plugging it tomorrow. Make sure wait he's yeah, all right, tomorrow, give give
it to me tomorrow. When he goes out and gets his coffee, alko hide and he won't even notice. You know what. He he has a plant on top of it. He's using as a plant stand right now. Oh my god, what a dick. It never has been plugged in once. All right, he is, he's he It'll sit there for five years. So that would be hilarious if you did that.
But yeah, I know what you're talking about with the plugs, because I remember the electrician at your house said that there's those buttons in the middle that like automatically turn it off if it detects moisture. Yeah, so at least they're like putting some error prevention in there. But that is kind of crazy, all based off of people's stupid actions. I don't think that that's that stupid. I just think that people do that, especially a teenager. I don't think
her action was too bad. I'm more so talking about like bringing a blow dryer into the shower, or like a radio into the shower. This next one's really sad. So a nineteen year old college freshman and her friends decided to take what they thought was percosets one night. It ended up being one hundred percent feentanyl. The girl died, her other friend that took it nearly died, and the third friend that didn't take it watched her two friends die.
We talked about this, Inda and then other one gets sick. We watched this in are We talked about this in the celebrity death this section of prints. This is kind of how Prince died. Like he was buying illegal drugs and took a pill that he thought was or pill or pills that he thought was a prescription drug like percoset,
and it ended up being counterfeit fentanyl. And in that post, you guys should really check it out because I show what the perkoset looks like, a real one that you would get from the pharmacy, and then what what are the counterfeit ones look like? They absolutely look like the same exact pill, same shape, same color, same imprint. You would never know that they were fair. So they one of the girls had bought the pills over social media, which I think we all can agree don't buy drugs
from strangers. How is it that there's all these restrictions on my account and every single other person I know, and you could buy drugs on social media. It's just the way it is. How do you at? What is that?
Like?
Do you know anything about this buying drugs over social media? Like who do you get them from? But is it Instagram? TikTok? Oh? Pretty naive to a lot of this stuff. Like Ricky and I are always talking about situations where I'm totally like unaware of what's going on in front of me. I'm unaware of what's going on because I don't even know how you would go about that. And I don't know what I mean. I don't have TikTok or snapchat? Is it one of those things? I'm sure it's just
a guy that has. I mean, there are pages of people that sell weed that post of all the weed they sell. And this was like before it was like legalize or recreationalize or whatever, you know, so like it's been going on forever. It's the same with porn, Like they say they're against porn, but like all those pages don't get deleted. Get you're trying to educate the public about diseases in your shadow band. So it's they have personal vendettas or they just can't keep up with it
and it doesn't help. The AI is running a lot of their systems. So while these people that are making these counterfeit drugs aren't pharmacists, clearly they're not educated people to determine how many milligrams if something goes in to a pill, and fetanyl is fifty times stronger than something like a percoset or even really more per it's fifty times more potent than heroin. Like, it's just it's probably over one hundred times more potent than a percoset, you know.
Do you know that last year there's been seventy five thousand people died from a feentanyl overdose. And people think, oh, they're just druggies whatever, Right, that's not what it is. I mean, this girl, right, she's how old was she ninety? Yeah, she's with her friends. She shouldn't be taking percocets. But guess what kids tried drugs? Okay, that just happens. They were chilling in the house and wanted to take a
percoset whatever. Like I'm not condoning it, but you can't sit there and act like it doesn't happen, right, Yeah, but she took one pill and is dead. She's not a junkie. This actually happened in run of Meede, which
is the town next to where we grew up. There was a sixteen year old girl and she was going out with a slightly older guy, I think he was nineteen or twenty, and he was doing heroin and then she did it one time, but took his dose that he had built up to over the years, and she died on the first time she took it because the dose was too high. Yeah, and I'll never forget that story because I was around that age when it happened, and it really shook the community. And it's just really sad.
And you know, I understand people take pills and stuff, like I got percosets when I got my wisdom teeth teeken out and I have never thrown up so bad in my life. I don't know how people take them recreationally, but people don't get sick from them, Like that's that's that's the reality. Like there's a huge problem with it in our country. But regardless, like the the more important
lesson is just to teach kids. And I started already with the kids, like don't ever take something like that that you didn't get out of a bottle from your own house, like you really shouldn't even be doing it anyway, but be smart. It's like telling kids not to drink and telling kids not to smoke. They do it, so just make sure that they know they know something as simple as that, like steal it from your grandmom and don't buy it off with someone on Instagram or something.
You shouldn't buy anything like that ever off of social media or Facebook, Marketplace or anything over the internet. It's one hundred percent. I really shouldn't buy like anything that you could ingest. Yeah, right, like you were if even if there was like a person that made cookies that you liked and they weren't like a legit business. You really shouldn't just be buying like food off of people like that, cause you don't I mean, not that a
legit business. You couldn't get hurt either, But at least when you're trying to do a baker or something from your house, you have to go through like x amount of things in order to get certified that you're handling food and stuff properly. It's just it's just not a good idea to do that. Yeah, it's really not all right. So in Maine, a woman and her husband were walking along the beach when suddenly she sank into the ground. Her husband turned around and was like, where are you?
And she was way deep in the sand in the sand. At first, she thought she fell through a hole that kids had dug, which we've talked about on here a few times how dangerous that could be. But it ended up being quicksand on this beach. So this reminds me of like Princess Bride, right, Yeah, I haven't watched that
while quick. So in two thousand and five, they did a study on quicksand because it's just been in like pop culture and history forever, and found that it's not really a thing that could ever suck you fully into the ground, but you can definitely go way steep. And the biggest concern with death is that if you're walking through a beach and you get sucked in like that.
Lady did like what if she was by herself? Yeah, and then it was low tide and then all of a sudden, the tide came in, Like she could have drowned if she was stuck like that, But but you can't. It's not something that we should fear that you're gonna get sucked in and like buried alive. Well what if you're like what if you were like a little kid. No, it has something to do with the with the particles and like how much it could pull you in, because
it's all it is is extremely wet sand. Yeah, so it's they they did all of these studies, like scientific studies and just determine it's not like a kid could get pulled in too, but just halfway. Yes, So officials are saying, if this happens to you and you're like shoes come off or you lose something, just get out. Don't worry about your belongings. They could be replaced, but
you don't want to get stuck in there. Yeah, but how do you get out if you're in the middle of the of the beach, Like you don't have a guy named Wesley there with a giant sword cutting down a vine to like she definitely, she definitely said if her husband wasn't there, she would have had a total panic. Attack, which I think we could agree almost anybody would have a total panic attack. Maybe you were able to dig your way out. I don't really know. It's just scary
to think about. But don't worry about, like if other things get stuck in there, just worry about getting yourself out of it. This episode is brought to you by the Grosser Room. Guys talk about the Grosser Room all the time on Mother Knows Death and just today alone, we have so many cases of Bernie Mack and print celebrity death to sections as well as must see videos, including the one that's titled Lunch that shows a woman that was ingested whole by a python, just similar to
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So employees at the Spanish Olympic Committee in Madrid had asked security guards if they would review surveillance video to look into a potential theft. As they were reviewing footage, however, they saw that a sixty seven year old security guard at the facility was jerking off into his coworkers' water bottles, not once, but six times. Oh my god, that is so disturbing. It's so disgusting. So and what did they say, like, did they know that this was going on or they
were completely shocked when they were told about it. So apparently not that long before they made this discovery, the two female coworkers had reported that, you know, they had noticed their water bottles that had been moved. I don't even think they reported it. They just had said out loud like, oh weird that my water bottle has been moved. Oh it smells weird, it tastes weird. So they were drinking it, not realizing this guy was taking their cups
and jerking off into them. So when they confronted him about it, they said he was doing it as revenge because they were mean to his wife, who also worked at the facility. But all witnesses are saying, that's not even possible. And if you're his wife, are you okay with this because that's disgusting yea, And they're saying the wife had absolutely no idea this was even going on. He should go to jail for a long time for this.
You can spread sexually transmitted infections through drinking seamen, seriously, Like that's that's terrible. Yeah, So he has been arrested. Well, he was arrested in January and charged with moral corruption and sexual assault. The police were just able to come out with this information. I guess there was a gag order on it. But how absolutely repulsive. Yeah, it really is.
I mean that that should be I don't know how you know, when they charged people like we talked about this a couple of weeks ago, that woman that knew she had HIV and was still having sex with people and stuff that you can get in like serious trouble for that. You can give someone HPV, which is known to cause throat cancer. You can give someone gone rhea, chlamydia, even HIV. Technically, I mean, it's hopefully the guy didn't have anything, but that's that's it is sexual assault. He
should have got charged with that at the very least. Yeah, I mean, I can't even imagine how damaged that would be from something like this the rest of my life, Like not trusting anybody ever giving you a drink, not being able to again falls under the category of I don't want to know, Just don'tact me exactly. Okay, all right, let's get on the medical news. New research suggests that consuming ultra press is vegan food can increase the risk of heart disease. This isn't a shock to me either.
I remember when the whole vegan thing started when I bet in the late nineties, you know, and I had all these friends that were that would be well vegetarian vegan. It just wasn't as common as it is now, you know, when I was younger, and it would be like we would go to McDonald's and they would only eat fries or something, and it was like every single time we ate, they ended up only eating the shittiest food that didn't
have meat in it or something. Right, And then that progressed to all these impossible burgers and this and that, and you just think, like, this can't be good. It's it's just filled with dyes and stuff to make it look like me, and and sure enough, it's actually worse for you than regular meat is. According to this study, they did say that people that had a plant based diet had better heart health, but that's like a real plant based diet where you're eating fruits and vegetables like
fresh ones, beans, things like that, and whole grains. They did have an increased risk of like or increased chance of having better heart health. But for people like so many that we know that are vegan, that eat all of this crazy stuff that's filled with salt and barely has any nutrition in it whatsoever, there's not Sometimes you look at the packages of them, they have like no
protein in them. They they're filled with sugar, They're filled with salt, high sodium levels, you know, and yeah, it's it's actually causing a twelve percent rise in heart related deaths. I'm not surprised by this at all because I worked at a restaurant in South Philly for five years and half of our menu is vegan, and I think people think the word vegan equals healthy, and as we can tell from this study and a lot of other lifestyle habits,
that's not the case. I would seriously have people say to me like, I'm getting the vegan wings because they're healthier than chicken wings, and they weren't because they were deep fried bread essentially covered in a buttery sauce instead of actually having some protein that chicken has. Right, So this was just a common misconception. It happened all the time. People were just like, oh, if I eat a vegan
cheese steak, that's healthier. And I'm like, no, you're eating salted sae tan, which is a gluten based fake protein in bread with melted fake cheese. There's no nutrients in this whatsoever. It is horrible for you. I mean it probably. I think things like that are okay to have moderation. If you're at like let's say you're vegan and you're at the Phillies game, Like, okay, you could get a
vegan cheese steak. That's awesome, right, But and it tastes good because they use whatever chemicals they make to make it taste like the real thing. But I think some people have substituted that stuff as their entire guy. That's the point I'm trying to make is like what you're saying is plant based diets can be extremely healthy if you're actually eating like whole foods and you're making it
yourself and everything. But just because it's labeled as vegan and if it's deep fried and everything certainly does not mean it's healthier. And a lot of people at the place I worked really over indulged on that stuff, and just we're like preaching to everybody that it was somewhat healthier, and you're like, it's really not okay, but yeah, all right. So this next one, a forceful sneeze caused a man's colon to fall out of his body. This story is ridiculous.
A sixty three year old man had prostate cancer and had recently undergone abdominal surgery. So one morning he had his stitches removed from that surgery, was just trying to have a cute little breakfast with his wife, had I quote force full sneeze and noticed that he had pain in his abdomen and that some of his bow was protruding through. So what happened was he had prostate cancer,
and he had his prostate removed in it. Well, they removed his bladder too, because he had a surgery called a systectomy, which is removing your bladder and prostate glen. They removed both of these things, and he had an incision. I wouldn't really consider it to be like an abdominal decision. It's pretty like low but pelvic at bottom, like under your belly button basically, right. And so he had the surgery was successful, he added its suture, the wound sutured.
He went to get the sutures removed. And you know, the sutures are closing up your abdomen that keeps all your guts inside, right, So when he sneezed really hard, he busted open that wound that had just healed. Not too long, right, They usually keep sutures in for like six weeks or something like that. And and yeah, all of his intestines poured out of the of the incision when it ripped open. And this, I know that you
think this sounds crazy, but this happens again. A post in the grocer Room I did about a woman who had a hysterectomy and her intestines came out of her vagina because because the incision ended up being a weakness that that was allowed the intestines to come out of her vagina. But it does happen from time to time.
And fortunately, you know, while one of the things is that they called nine to one one in, the paramedic said that he had a three inch vertical laceration with intestines protruding, which pisses me off because it's not a laceration. It was from an incisional wound made by a scalpel blade, so not a laceration. They must not have heard my lecture, but regardless. Yeah, so the good news is that you go back to the hospital and you get sewn back
up and everything's all good. But I can imagine I always think that these injuries that cause what's called evisceration or your organs to come out must be completely disturbing. It probably it probably didn't hurt him too bad. I mean, aside from like that incision ripping open. He might not have much feeling there anyway, just because he just had a recent incision there and you have a lot of
numbness entangling. But yeah, disturbing to say the least. And then he also said that he covered his intestines with his shirt not to freak his wife out. So good story. But he's gonna be all right, awesome, all right. Other death news, next time you steal a car, you might want to check if a dead body's inside, because this woman in Texas thought it would be a good idea to steal a mortuary van outside of a hospital and did not realize that a dead person was in the back.
So what happens is when you die, your body goes down to the more refrigerator at the hospital, and either the Medical Examiner's office comes to pick up the bodies to bring them to get autopsies if it was if someone got shot or something like that, or if they died in a car accident, and if they are just going to the funeral home, a funeral home will pick them up. So there's always this is like the dark
side of the hospital that most people don't see. But there's always vans, sometimes even hersks in the back picking up bodies. But it's usually in the back of the hospital, tucked away. But one of the hospitals I worked at for a long time was in the middle of the city. So there's only like so much tucking away you could do,
you know. So when these funeral vans or ones from the Medical Examiner's office would pull up, they would be in an area right down a little alley that was very accessible to patients and being able to go down there and look and see what was going on, or just people walking around the city in general. So that's
what happened. There was already a body in the van, and this could be this could have even been a funeral home had let's say they were in Philadelphia and they had one pick up at University of Penn and one at Jefferson, Like they would maybe stop at one hospital and get a body, stop at another hospital, get a body, and then go back to the funeral home. So completely possible. Although I actually have never seen that,
and I used to release bodies all the time. I never saw them pick up multiple bodies at one time. And the reason probably is is that they're probably not supposed to do it because when the person that's driving the van has to go into the hospital to get the other body, then like who's watching the body in the van? That's I mean, really like it, Like, listen, this lady shouldn't have stole this car, but like that body and that car should not have been unattended like that,
because that could have went really bad. You know, like what if she crashed it in it caught on fire and that was like your grandpa, Well yeah, you know what I mean. Whole thing's horrible. I'm imagining like in those vans. Is it one of those where behind the driver's sheet the walls closed off, or can you see that there's something in the trunk, Like do you think no, you could see something's in the trunk. It's usually sometimes it's like a mini van, but they're all the seats
are out. It's always they're all different things that the way they have it. Okay, So like I'm picturing. So they're saying, according to surveillance video, she stole this car, and then they see her leave the car and run out of it really fast, right, And the best part of this story is that she dumped the car at a local zoo, like she drove it two miles. I imagine she's driving along on this high that she stole
this car. She looks like she has some substance abuse issues based on her mugshot, and she probably looked in the back and solid dead body and was like, oh my fucking god, pulled up and then dumped the car and ran away from the scene. Yeah, or or she
smelled and she smelled it. Which is it? Because those I feel like I feel like those cars are just kind of gross, Like even if you pick up a person that's not decomposed from the hospital, like sometimes the bags are drippy, like if they had if they had like hepsi and they had like aedma all over their bodies. Sometimes it's just like all this fluid and what. We always try to like dry them up as much as possible, but sometimes you just can't dry up a person. They
just keep oozing and oozing and using so it drips. Like. I just always think those things are kind of like gross, But they're for dead body, so it's fine, But they do sometimes have a certain smell to them disgusting. Well, that's what you get for for stealing a car. You never know what you're gonna find inside. And it happens
sometimes that there was little kids in there too. It's terribly Yeah, So before we get on questions of the day, I have two notes I want to bring up from our last episode, one of which was about the dog story we covered in the Crib. So one of you guys wrote in saying that you often work with dogs, and you've seen that dogs like huskies as the aide, tend to develop neurological issues, and that could have been the case and maybe the family was not aware of it.
So I thought that was really interesting. What did you think about that? Yeah? I thought that I thought that that was really helpful because especially people that work with animals and know their behavior so much, it makes sense, I guess because the same thing can happen with people that have dementia and stuff. I guess the same thing could happen to animals. Shoes. Yeah, so I thought that
was a really interesting perspective. Another one of you wrote in giving us the definition of a serial killer, which I appreciate because I wasn't really sure about last week. So you said, the definition of his serial killer is someone who has committed killings on three separate occasions with significant time between them. So if the Idaho killings are
all he's done, he's just a mass killer. Technically that's true, but I you know what, I won't be surprised if that's the only ones he's He's this person also said that there's evidence that he's maybe done something like this before, but obviously that we'll have to wait until more information comes out about the case. So yeah, I don't think you just go from being like nerd nerd teacher teach or student guy to like doing something like that. No, I mean, it's kind of it's kind of like ballsy
like I mean, it's just it's a big bowl. We'll probably see the usual, like he killed small animals, and then you know, it started progressing into other things. There's definitely a twist in this case, and I keep saying it. I don't know what it is. I just think that it's not as as it appears quite yet. Oh yeah, but thank you, like thank you guys, because sometimes you message us and you clarify some things for us. So I really appreciated that we don't know everything. Actually we
don't know anything at all. We mess up all the times. Yes, we do appreciate all right, So now on to Questions of the Day. Every Friday at the at Mother Knows Death Instagram, you guys can put a little you could ask a question. We put a little box in the story that's up for twenty four hours you could ask us whatever you like. First, do bodies really make that squishy noise in real life? Like in movies and television? Like,
what what do you mean squishy noise? I guess when they're like in a movie or a show working in a body, like doing an autopsy in this show, there's just a lot of noises happening. Yeah, I mean, yeah it does. You're you're you're playing in fluids, so it's you could I guess it could be squishy. I mean, especially like I was just talking about with with that with that morg Van right that I was saying that people could have anasarca or a demon or fluid that's
like in their tissues. So it's not just like it's not in their blood vessels. It's like in everything. Think about like a wet sponge kind of it's just like soaked up into the organs, into the fat and everything. So there's sometimes that you do autopsies and there's just a lot of fluid in the lung cavities, they abdominal cavity that the organs are heavier. Just so, yeah, it does,
it is squishy. I guess There's been times that, like one time I did an autopsy, and this guy's belly was really really distended, and I thought that it was fluid because his belly looked pregnant, you know, and that's
normally what it is. So I always make a very small nick before I do that, so the fluid doesn't like gosh all over my legs, right, So I'd make us small one and then I like take it out slowly with just enough to fit the ladle into the abdominal cavity, and I made I was with Phoebe actually doing this autopsy, so we could we should talk to her about that, because we had a couple crazy autopsies that week that we ended up crying laughing after we
got scared. So I made the little incision and it just made this noise and we were like because it ended up that there was air inside of it in his abdomen, not there was no fluid. So that little tiny like hole I made just made this like whistling sound, and it scared the shit out of me and Phoebe. We were like, what the hell is that? Because we never experienced that, and you know, we we ran out of the room like screaming, and but we were like laughing,
like couldn't stand up straight because we were laughing so hard. Yeah, I mean that sounded shocking to hear coming from a person's body. It was all right. Next, Have you seen anything that really churned your stomach? Yeah? Probably. One time we had a panas removed from someone that was like what would be considered super morbid obese it and it was infected and the smell was just really really terrible on it. It was a very big piece of skin
with like a belly flap of skin. I actually had to bring it down to the morgue to weigh it because it was so big, it was seventy five pounds. I couldn't weigh it up in the grocerroom. And it smelled so bad that every like when we took it out of the biohazard bag in the grocer room to cut it up and stuff like it's it just smelled so bad that everyone had to leave the grocer room because it smelled so bad that you was shant some stink bomb that. Yeah, right. And also yeah, we've had
like several cass just different cases of that. One time I got a tampon that was in a woman's vagina for like years and it just was like it looked like what you would think a tampon inside of a vagina would look like for years, just like a ball of like cotton mess. But that really gross, like old blood green infection color. And it just smelled terrible, like things that just smell really crazy. I guess, yeah, all right, last question, did you meet everyone you wanted to at
crime Con? Almost? But no, because you really wanted to meet doctor Boden, right, I did, and I didn't even see him. I didn't see him either. I wanted to meet Matt Murphy, who was walking in front of me and in the speaker room at the same time as us, actually, and I just was too like over the we're like
such cowards. We we actually were in that room, that back room with Nancy Grace, and we had the opportunity to go up to her and talk to her and ask her for a picture, and we were too to do well, it's awesome, like we don't want to be Luckily, I don't want to be rude and interrupt them either when they're talking to other people, you know, I know. And I don't want to like stand in a line
waiting like that either. I just don't I don't want to bother people, so but I don't care when people bother me, So I just need to look at it that way, I guess. So Yeah, So we did meet Nancy though, which was awesome, and we were able to get her like talk to her, which was cool for a couple of minutes there that was nice, But regretting not getting a picture with her, Doctor Boden, I wanted
to meet Mark Geragos just because I wanted to. I wanted to take a picture with him too, to send to doctor Drew, just to be like, yo, you know this jerk. And who else I'm trying to think o. Gabby Patito's parents were there. We didn't get to meet them, but we might be talking to them soon hopefully. Who else was there? There was a lot of stuff that we missed because we didn't quite know what to expect.
We didn't book our flights to be able. Well I didn't because I had to get home to my kids, So I missed a whole Like, I essentially missed an entire day of like good stuff that I wanted to see. So yeah, there's other people too that I just can't really I can't think of right now. But I'm very happy of who we did get to meet, because yeah,
that was really awes after. Yeah, because I was just exposed to you know, I watched specials with these people all the time, so when you see them in public, like our episode with Laura Engle yesterday, right, you were like, I feel like I know you've because I've been watching your coverage for the last twenty years, which is surreal to see somebody in person, and it's weird. It's weird because I just talked to her and I'm like, Hey, what are you doing, what's up? Like like I just
feel like I know or yeah. So yeah, I would say for the most part, we met everybody we wanted to and more. You know, there was a lot of people I didn't think we'd have access to and just got to have really good conversations with. So yeah, I mean the whole thing was just awesome, and Kelly was awesome and kell and people were like the nicest people in the world. Thank you Away for having us. Seriously. Yeah, it was great, and everybody backstage was great. That one
guy was I didn't get his name. He was like really funny, Remember he was like, oh yeah, Like people that were taking us back to the stage and stuff. They every just everybody was just like, oh, just remofict, She'll be fine, and it made us look really comfortable. And the one guy just kept making hilarious jokes and he was awesome. So it was yeah, all right, Well, thank you guys so much. We will see you next week. Say yeah, thank you for listening to Mother Knows Death.
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