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I'm Luke Thomas. I'm this this morning combat.

Welcome, Welcome, Welcome, Welcome inside everyone, Hello, how are you? It is cold where I am. It is cold for about two hundred million Americans if I can be honest, but it is warm right here next to the MK fire.

My name is Luke Thomas.

Thank you so much for joining me on this twenty sixth day of two thousand twenty six. We have a lot to get to a huge focus today on UFC three twenty four. Let me first bring in my co host.

For the day.

Now you might be like, wow, Chuck Minnenhall has really altered his appearance in short order. Old Charles got stuck in the winter storm. He's okay, everyone, don't worry. But we couldn't actually make it for him to do the show with us today as a consequence, so we called in reinforcements from MMA fighting dot Com.

It's our friend and yours Jed michue Hi, Jed, how are you?

I'm cold? But you know much better hair than Chuck minton Hall.

Yeah. Well, by Virgine just having some Yeah.

Yeah, I don't have as good of a hat as he does, but you know, happy to step in. I was not anticipating this until yesterday, but hooking, Yeah.

Neither were we.

And then he was like, this ain't gonna work, and we're like, all right, we got to figure out what we're gonna do here, so Chuck, we'll be back. I guess he might be back Friday, but I suspect to be back next Monday. And all's well that ends, well, well, how cold is it in Atlanta, Georgia?

It is currently twenty four and I'm cold for Atlanta. I was talking, we were I was talking about this with Long Island Luke before we went live. I think this is the coldest I've ever felt Atlanta because it was eighteen when I woke up, and the windshill had it feeling like five and I don't know that that's ever I've experienced that in my fifteen years here. But it hasn't iced much. There's not much much precipitation, which

Other than the temperature, yeah, I can count. I mean I lived in Georgia for how many years I don't know, from fifth grade to essentially yeah, so like not quite ten years. And I mean a little more of it if you count, like time home away from college. But I can count on my hands a number of times that reached below thirty, you know what I mean. Like, that's just an incredibly rare occurrence.

Come on, it snows here. It's not like fifteen. It's like, oh, it's snowed and it is thirty or it's twenty five.

But we got it. We had freezing rain all day yesterday. We got about six inches of snow, so it wasn't.

Too too bad.

But but like's I can't stand it when it freezes and then the sun comes out and then it melts and then just refreezes everything, which is really quite annoying. But our producer got nearly two feet up there in central New Jersey, so it could always be work. But we have a lot to get Yeah, we have a lot to get to today, UFC three twenty four. So many different elements of this story to talk about. From the event itself to the individual fights really what it

In the h up there in the Long Island parts.

Yeah, we got about a snow not bad, shoveled it out last night.

Good to go today.

You know, let me ask a question, because I'm not a snow shoveling aficionado. By a stretch the imagination. What is the rule? Do you pre treat the concrete before you shovel or do you just wait till it's done and then you go shovel it?

I mean a I have a gravel driveway, so there ain't no pre treating anything. But I just fucking shovel it, dude. The hardest part is the gravel. You know, half the time I'm picking up rocks with the snow, so I kind of just put it near the side of the driveway and then as it melts, you know, in the spring, I'm constantly picking out rocks out of my lawn and just throwing them back in the driveway.

Obviously, it is what it is. Do what you gotta do.

Fights this weekend though pretty hyped. Also, we're not gonna preview it today. We're gonna preview it on Friday, but we got another pay per view this weekend in Australia.

Looking forward to that.

So yeah, that's right. Is your dad gonna watch now that there's no pay there there's no paywall.

He doesn't have paramount.

I could give him my log I'm gonna say no because unless it was on like Netflix, probably not.

Yeah. No, yeah, fair enough.

Before we get started, Jed. One quick question. One of the things that we often do, and I'm sure you've done it as well, is kind of use how many people in your non mma orbit all of.

A sudden contest? Yes, all of a sudden.

Randomly you get a text being like, Hey, what's up with the fight this weekend? This happens unfortunately, but it is true. This happens quite repeatedly. When Jake Paul fights. I get a lot of text messages from folks who ordinarily never contact me about this stuff. How many did you either get to before, during or after three twenty four?

Uh?

Before, I mean it was a bunch before. And so like me and my kech and fighting have the scale of the mom test were like, if my mom is texting me, that's when I know something has reached a criticality, right, because my mom doesn't give a shit about this, But like my friends have a lower bar and they'll pop in occasionally for the biggest fights. And basically all of them were were hitting me up about it because it

Yeah?

I mean I definitely had not a whole bunch, not as much as a Jake Paul fight, but I definitely had a few friends reach out who ordinarily never ask. And that again is kind of always the spidy sense that you get about three twenty four. With that in my mind, let's kick things off topic number one. So let's start with the main event. Now, we're going to get to as I mentioned, how we feel about all the ads on the broadcast and some other factors that

However, I do.

Think it'd be fair to say alit sloppy. Certainly folks were vocalizing some concerns in that direction. Nevertheless, most people felt it was pretty entertaining. Me included your biggest takeaway though from the five round battle is.

What ooh, I've got two. I'm trying to figure out what is the actual biggest because that's how words work. I'm gonna go with my biggest takeaway is that they did They did it. The UC got what they wanted right, Like, this is out of all the hullabaloo, all the talk, all the handling and pearl clutching and Ormandsrukan deserves to be fighting here and this one actually blah blah blah,

No denying I largely agree with that.

I think the one setback and because the the UFC is playing with house money because they have they control both fighters. Right again, it's not rival promoters coming together to make a card so that in some sense they win either way. It does probably it's not great honestly for the UFC's future prospects that Patty didn't deliver here.

It was bloody.

I got people were Gaichie was able to affect change, Patty had a couple of rallies and that third and again kind of in that fifth as well, like if you what you care about is drama in a fight and action in a fight, and you're not too concerned about whether this guy is number one versus number two? Just are they good enough? And is this fight entertaining enough? And are you appealing to crowds where that's really just the dominant factor. I don't know how this didn't deliver.

They're feeling great. Look, if you were a hardcore fan and didn't care about that fight, I don't Maybe this is you, Luke, and so I hope you'll invite me back.

I want to be clear, I was funny.

I actually enjoyed the fight, and again I thought it was sloppy in parts. I think we all do it is. And then but I got off YouTube and then I get on Twitter and everyone was fucking killing it on my timeline and I'm like, I didn't allow.

Joy, allow joy into your lives, you pretendily.

So for me, I actually kind of enjoyed it. I really did.

It was super fun, Like that's if if all, if you watch that fight and your takeaway is these aren't the best light weights in the world. This is live like no ship. Nobody thought they were coming into this. Allow things to be fun, embrace it because we've got like maybe three Justin Gayee fights left. That's he's the

Let's talk about the fight, all right.

So I thought I am too willing to bury the unks, which affected my pick on Friday, because I was like, I thought that Geechee was going to land on him, which he sure.

Did, sure did, And I thought that it was going to happen.

Was what you got in the first round, that Patty was going to get his shit rocked and then maybe start to rally. And then when he rallied a little bit in the third, I was like, all right, well, maybe something's gonna happen here. And then geyge closed that fucking door pretty quickly in the fourth. But I have to say, what did you make of Patty's game plan? Because I want to tell you what I feel. I see a lot of people saying, oh, why didn't he go for more takedowns? And if you look at the

The guys Ckenzy Durn numbers right, So.

McKenzie derned numbers.

And in fact, if you look at the four takedowns he has, one of them is real slick. It's a hoagoshi. He got to think of the Jordan Levit fight. But most of them come from someone else establishing contact and then him hitting a switch or finding some kind of back take to you know, a matt return, which will count as a takedown. You know, typically that's where it comes from. It doesn't come from being far away shooting and then getting a takedown. So I'm not gonna say

Yeah, man, I got a lot of thoughts here. I

He's a significantly better fighter. I'm so glad you brought that up, because if you look at the takedown that Patty got on Chandler, he goes for a single leg and then Chandler tries to turn and bail and get away, and then then allows Patty to hold the leg and then follow and get the body lock, which he then hit a matt return on and then he took the back right, so they was at the beginning of the end.

Obviously.

What's interesting to me is do he landed on Geichee a lot? And it didn't really do shit?

Statistically landed more mikes and gai Chie did she did?

And then I forget too, like it's like it's like, bro, he you gave gei Chee not just all the weapons, like the different kinds of weapons, but like it wasn't like Geechee had to like, yes, some of them were blocked. Much of that landed clean and it didn't do fuck all to him. And it's like, do we have to have a conversation about whether Patty's obviously got some stoppage wins via strikes as UFC debut for example, came that way.

And you know, he was beating the shit on Michael Chandler.

I'm not saying he can't hurt people, but there and the Geichee is still pretty tough. There is a question about what kind of pop he has, right.

I mean, he obviously does not have like natural power that is not part of him.

But like the mechanics on some of these punches in all he was trying to stab him with overhand stab You're never.

Gonna get like if you don't naturally have power and your mechanics are bad, it's gonna be super like this is all working against you. But like, also, yeah, when he beat the shit ounder Michael Chandler, he can hit like he has some He's a big dude, He's strong enough.

Let's take a look at this picture of Patty's face. This is what he looked like at the end of the fight. I tell you what I did learn this Patty's got a fucking chin, bro, I mean, whatever else you want to say about him, Geechee was landing on this fool and he you know, I was amazed at how well he was able to take the punches relatively speaking.

Dude, it is not just that he's landing on this fool. Shout out to Jack Slack who pointed this out on his post podcast or whatever. Justin Gaechee was landing shots against like and Justin Gaigie one of the harder hitters of this weight class, like ever, right, just this pure power. Maybe he's a little older, maybe he had staff, like, maybe he didn't have as much pop, but he was

Last thing on Patty for just a moment. Do you to me this.

I'm not in any way saying it's the same as the five round beating basically, basically that Gegee put on Tony Ferguson.

I'm not saying it's the same. It's not. The damage was not as much. That was a especially brutal beating.

However, do you worry about the amount of damage Patty took in this fight in terms of his chances, Maybe not all the way for his long term but for his next.

Fight, No, I will say, because I have the stats up. I've been kind of looking at him this morning. Geechee landed one more significant strike per UFC stats against Patty than he did against Tony. Of course, he didn't get any knockdowns against Tony, so statistically it was a worse beating. But I'm with you, he ended Tony Ferguson's career was pretty tough. I'm not that concerned about Patty because I Patty's I think, is still young enough where you can

Bro, What does it mean that Gaeygee is a two time interim champion?

I think it's awesome. Frankly, it doesn't mean like, it doesn't mean nothing. It doesn't mean the world. But like he is, in my estimation, the most accomplished UFC fighter of all time to never win an undisputed belt because it's a two time interim champion. Even if this one is way more suspect than the first one, was right BMF champion, and like there's an argument that not that he would be the best lightweight in the world, but that Iliotaporio should not currently have a belt right now,

I have struggled with this one.

I'm not sure what it means pardon me again, in part because Justin faced both Max and Charles Lavera and got smoked by both of them, you know, and it's like, now he's holding an interim title. What does it mean to be a two time interim champion. I'm not really sure because it's not really a number one I mean, it ends up being a number one contender fight as a consequence, but but you know, it's not really a number one contenders fight.

So I have a little bit of difficulty with it.

But it did remind me and I said this on Saturday night, and again people poop poo in this performance. Justin didn't look to me like, of course prime Justin not only you could definitely see that there was a little bit of a slowing down. At the same time, people are like, oh, he's washed. I don't think he's

I remember when you first pitch that whatever is like, look at these fucking old war horses still just turning back. And I was like three years later it's like, yeah, gay chee be a philpasive who's supposed to be the future? Hey, just be Patty, who's supposed to be the future. Like it's just like, Okay, it's incredible, like what this little

Let's get to the people who even kind of dancing around this whole time, which is who I think are.

The two best lightweights in the world. Let's start with, uh, you know what, Let's start with.

The champion himself. Here's a tweet from Eliot Toporia two I'm guessing to Patty obviously quote, Hey, little sausage, the only thing you had to do was be the thirty eight year old guy. By the way, I you can just if you say that in Taporia's voice, all you have to do is just beat a thirty eight like any like He's like, you're comparing him to like any guy off the street who happens to be thirty eight. Like the disdane with which he is treating Geegee is remarkable.

Iliot Taporia from the Top Rope. I love this message.

I'm a okay. I have a lot of issues with basically everything Ilia Taporia has said over the last two years, not this one, like this is exactly right, Like you got beef with that dude, and you can dunk on on that dude like that is a okay thing to do. You know. I do think he also lost the biggest pain day of his life. I think it would it's better for his career if he beats Patty than Geigee. But like it is, I totally understand dunking on him

I think to Poria, well, okay, let's be clear about this.

And I said this a long time ago when people were like, oh, what about Patty versus Ilia? And I was like, brother, I mean, if you wanted to end Patty's career, you set him up with Ilia would turn him into.

Ash, you know what I mean?

I mean, just absolutely Medusa him turn him into fucking stone with what he would do. I think Gates you would be a little bit more competitive and certainly put up more of a fight, But I don't think his chancers are great either, which then brings us to a more interesting consideration, namely, what about Arminsar Yukim the kind of odd man out here who one way or the other probably should have been in this bout. He had

So what do you make of this.

It is obvious that these two guys are the best lightweights in the world, but in terms of how you feel like their stock or their appearance or their value shakes out sort it for.

Me, dude, I just put it in our private chat. One of my favorite photos of the evening. It is Arman serukin immediately after the main event. Yeah, look at Look at how mad fucking dude.

Like.

I don't know if I've ever seen a dude more bitter about what just has Like. You can see the thought in his head of like, I would fucking kill these dudes. I would put them both back to back and I would I would finish them inside of five. He's furious about what has gone on here, and it sucks for him. Man, I think he's the best lightweight on earth. He's certainly the lightweight on earth who has done the most right, Like he has consistently been beating

He would have.

I would bet almost anything in the world that he would have beaten either Man and now he like hopefully best case scenario, gets to fight for the title at the end of this year. But Long Island Loop, maybe you can confirm this or either of you if you remember. I think I recall Dana saying Armand's gonna have to fight again at the post presser, which like he'll beat whoever he fights. But bro, that sucks like this. It just he's done more than enough to get his day

DK early odds are friends here at draft Kings Taporia minus four fifty five, gai Chi plus three fifty and Gaiche's defense. He was the underdog from a betting standpoint heading into this one, so I know some folks made some good money with this one. This one, however, I mean, I love again. I cannot respect what Geigee has done and that generation of lightweights have done, but dude, Taporia

I mean, by the smallest of margins, do I think it's more competitive?

Really?

Uh yeah, Like I Armand will just have beibe Geichie and like he will just make Gaichie walk backwards constantly and try and circle and eventually he'll get it. Like once we were all confident that if Patty got Geichie down, it was Curtains. I'm like, this is the difference between Armand and Patty is significant. And Armand can wrestle his ass off. Go ask Lance Palmers.

Yeah, but he's got no subs. Okay, he doesn't need talking about this. I know he subbed Dan Hooker, Okay, armand did. But in general, I'm not convinced that like, oh he gets the back, he's some kind of threat from there. I'm I'm less convinced by that.

I'm pretty convinced that he would realll me that he would dummy Gaichee once he got to the floor. I do think Gochie will make it harder to get to the floor, but like I maybe it is the Homer in me. Don't get me wrong, I absolutely believe that Eli Taporia like logically, is going to beat Justin Gaichie. I was incredibly confident that javel Fhaziv would just be a better striker than Justin Gaichie. And they have fought for thirty minutes and mostly gey Chee's tuned him up.

With that in mind, let's now move to the co main event, topic number two. So he had to work for it here a little bit, but he got it done. Sean O'Malley wins a unanimous decision defeating Song You Dong. Now, he started out with a decent first round Song A Doong looked like he might have been mounting what was going to be a winning performance by the end of that second. But to me, the interesting factor here is the way which O'Malley rescued himself in the third. With

Uh, I don't think Shawn O'Malley has declined. I don't really think the story is either like, oh, look, Sean rallied so much as my big takeaway and this fight was, oh Sean didn't. He was slow to start. Maybe that's because he's been doing five rounders so much, because once he got up to speed, like, once he got going, it was like, oh, that's exactly that Shawn O'Malley. I anticipated it, just he didn't get going for a while.

Nah, but see here's why. No, Okay, But the thing is, if I hadn't seen Tim Welch be like apoplectic in the fucking corner between the second and third, and he wasn't like shouting him down.

But he was like, yo, like you gotta go, this is the moment.

You know, fast, you gotta be long, you gotta be quick, you gotta be first, best five minutes, let's go, Like he was really trying to. I'm not putting it on par with the between the fourth and fifth round of the Kamara Usbin lee On Edwards rematch, like you know, you gotta go, kid, But I am saying that like they were trying to jolt this dude back to being awake. And I can buy that the three rest around from the five rounds, you know, clearly can be an adjustment

Kind of means. I think he was feeling a little bit.

I think it took him a while to like to not just yes, get going obviously, but to kind of recognize like even said, for example, right, he even said.

I thought he was going to be way, way faster.

I think he had built up in his mind the difficulty of the moment to a little bit and was a little bit feeling it. And it was only after he kind of calmed down that he was able to let you know, and then he got a coach in his ear to kind of get going. I'm not to me like the five to three round three I absolutely think is a factor, but I'm not sure if it's the dominant one.

Yeah, I mean, and that could totally be it, because this was he probably had the most pressure of any fighter on him, just because like with the win, and we'll talk about that in the second maybe he's fighting for a belt. With the loss, his career is in full blown free fall at that point in time, like and so maybe that's it. Maybe he just felt a little bit of the press. Sure, but he's never been like a super fast starter anyway. The second round, the

Let's talk about Sonydall for a second. We'll circle back to Sean Omalley. But you brought it up, and I really wanted to get to it. Here's a guy who you keep they keep calling him up to the majors, and then he can't. He can't close the show on the hill, you know what I mean. They bring him

Dude, I don't. I think the answer is he doesn't have that many tools, right, like he he just had doesn't there's not a depth to his game. Correct me if you think I'm wrong here, But like, he's mostly doing the same stuff and he's very athletic, his hands are quite fast, and you know, he can do a little bit of everything, but he doesn't have any superpower to rely on. You know, he doesn't have a weapon or two to build a game around, and so he

I unfortunately agree.

Like if you just compare him to like again and you could say, oh, well, this is the best guy in the division. Fine, but that's a good benchmark. What does it look like when you're really good? Take someone like pyotor Yan. Think about all the things that fucking guy can do. The takedowns, the scrambling. He doesn't have the most significant submission threat, but I bet that's better than we think too. And then on the feet, the number of tools and how he blends it all together.

I mean, he can do vastly more.

He can take the fight to places that that that song has simply no way to follow. And so it's like I want for him to turn that corner and I don't.

I'm not ready to.

Rule it out, but unless he skill builds in some kind of way more than just like defensively.

I don't know what to say.

This is a sportman, We're gonna talk about some other fighters on this car where it's gonna be relevant. Everyone knows offense is more important than defense, but in MMA, it's like, dude, this is a lot more important. I mean, if you don't have good defense, you also won't win a title. But you need to make sure you can do a bunch of stuff you and have an ace in the hole too. It's a tough business. But I

I don't This is gonna be mean, and I'm okay with that. I if I was a fighter of talent and means if I and I'm not, If you can't look at this and understand that that's not correct, I don't know what to tell you. If I was somebody still young with a future in this sport, I don't know what would get me there, but it I just would never go to Team Alpha male I.

Who who is strong?

I mean they are better than many gems. But if you're trying to ascend, like what who's who's the fighter that is? Like Cody Garbrand is the best fighter Team Alpha Male has produced, not Dwayn Ludwig right, like and do you do you want to be where Cody's current career is, Like it's I know, I don't think he trains there anymore, but like I how is he gonna get those tools when nobody at Team Alpha Male has

So, thinking about what's next for Sean O'Malley, what do you think the UFC is going to do? There have been basically two different directions that have been proposed. One is, you could at this point give him a title shot. Again, I didn't think the fight was bad by any stretch.

I enjoyed it.

It wasn't a scintillating performance until the end of the third, but otherwise a competent one and certainly a deserving one for advancement.

Could you go to title shot route? You could.

That's one direction. The other one that I keep seeing pop up is about versus him, versus Corey Sandhagen. Could be on the White House, could be somewhere else for Jet If you get to play matchmaker four a day, how do you sort the top of this division? Rob's and the waiting in the wings. We'll talk about Umar a little bit later. And now you've got Sean O'Malley.

What do you do?

Dude? If I get the sort, we're gonna have the most fun. I don't think this is what will happen, But like looking at that fight, I think Sean O'Malley did a miracle on Saturday, which is he was ninety five percent to fight for the bantamway title, and I think that performance was the five percent. Oh, actually, never mind, We're just gonna do more and pyoder again. Uh, he's gonna have to fight again. I think they'll go Santagan. But if I'm in charge, this is the easiest thing

Way do Loyer and Luke has a theory on this. What is your theory about which way will go?

Well?

Like Jed just said, they're not gonna put Sean against Umar, even though that's mericratically whatever the fucking word is, what, Yeah, what you should do?

I think they're gonna do O'Malley yan too.

I'm even thinking possibly at the White House, and then I think, just on a random fight night, you do Morobar to winner of that is the rightful number one bro.

You can't do that.

It would be fucked up. And you know, I love Marab. I'm not saying I want I don't want this to happen. I'm just I feel like that's how the UFC is gonna go. It's just my theory.

I don't I do not believe. I can't believe they would make Morob fightar.

I such, but he you know, I mean, I'm not one of these guys who's like, oh, if you lose convincingly, you should get a rematch. But I'll make an exception in this case, given what Morob has done.

I may I think all immediate rematches are awful and should never happen. The lone the two caveats being stone called robbery and like it has to be Stone called it can't be competitive, and the other is trilogy fight. They split the two one hundred percent, you should run that a third time. There's no no doubt in my mind that's what should happen. I do think that is

Yeah, I will say this though, just getting back to Sean romalley as we wrap up on this topic here. To me, what was interesting was I definitely there was a nice crowd pop for Sean O'Malley. I think he did enough of a job as we talked about for advancement.

He did what he was supposed to do.

I do think though, that the Paramount story as well as the particulars of the main event have definitely drowned out a little bit. It's not like he's made a huge impact with the song you dong win, Would you agree with that? Like there's like most of the focus is just main event and then UFC Paramount as a storyline itself.

Yeah, he was you know, he wasn't supposed to be in the co main event anyway, and it does feel like it's just being treated as the feature about, which is what it was originally, because the performance wasn't great, you know, like it was it was perfectly fine professional.

Yes, if Morob retired today, this would be a much more easy conversation to parse. I will say this. I have my notes up here, and I wanted to make a point. Then I forgot what I was gonna say. Oh no, let me remind you. For me, we talk about some of the best fights that can be made in MMA within a weight class, so like who Islam would fight at seventy a natural seventy, or or as we've talked about, a fifty five to Poria and sar you can one of the more interesting. I'm not saying

Like I don't like.

Them fighting past their primes is not as interesting to me them fighting now. I gotta tell you that would be one of my more anticipated fights this year. I think that would be fucking electric, huge stakes, because is obviously sitting in something of a very advantageous position. Corey could steal that or certainly even now put himself even further back in the title return that he I think

To see in twenty twenty six. That's just my personal opinion.

I think that fight's awesome. I've wanted like that's been a great fight forever, and I love that Corey called for it because that's how you get it, and that seems like that seems like what will happen because Sean can also get a title fight by beating Corey and it is probably easier to beat Corey than it is to beat Umar. And yeah, dude, that fight rocks. So

I know.

And speaking getting back to song youa dong and say, dude, is san Haagan the best guy in the division. I think he's one of the best, but obviously I don't think he's the best guy. But look how skillful this fucking guy is, Sean Miley. Look how skillful yawn skillful? Morob need, I mean, not as skillful, but obviously he has a few things working for him that make that all work. Look at Umar, he's got problems, but fucking skillful.

He has no weapon that is critical, Like there is no no one single thing and not even like a preponderance of offense that is like, ah, he don't have anything he needs. I've said my piece on it.

Yeah, he needs to go somewhere else. All right, With that in mind, let's talk now about our friends at Hule. You guys might have heard about him. We talked about them previously on the show. And I want to start with a very basic question, which is how do you

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I think the story is Derek Lewis needs some heuel in his life. I don't know the fuck is going on there. Maybe Quero is actually what he uh? That was weird? I don't I've watched it a lot. I still don't. I don't know that this is true, and I don't want to cast dispersions on Derek Lewis, who is a very fun man. That looked like a little bit of one of my favorite fights of all time. Not the fight as a whole, but the ending. It

Slight correction.

According to our friends at Wikipedia, Derek Lewis is forty now, he's.

Gonna be one in February.

Yeah, I thought it was about two weeks or less.

Actually I thought he was already forty one.

I bet, yeah, he's going to be forty one here. But to your point, I mean, you basically get the right idea. I'll say this so you know what it reminded me of. It reminded that that sequence where Lewis goes heavy on a hook and then heavy on another hook and then cortes.

Customer Zach what you're saying.

It's it's like Silva versus.

Like, oh my god, he got him.

And I also I saw some folks say this to me.

It looked to them like is he versus Gasolom a little bit as well, where Gaslum's flailing, is he just kind of pulls them and pops?

You know, just a little bit of that too.

But I was like, it's at for Gasolum, you know, didn't fall over and just quit.

Yeah, this is.

I was like, I want to knocked out. He was defeated.

I want to point out something. It wasn't just that he just kind of laid down off the punch. Cortes a Coasta just does like like the most basic Torreando pass. But he doesn't even really do a pass. He just grabs his knees or his like his shins and just moves them to the side and it just goes right to neon belly. And I was like, dude, you just let this motherfucker like you didn't even roll to the side to frame out, just lets him go right around.

Can't rule anything out at heavyweight. But like, yeah, dude, he's he's competent. Is Waldork Coasta is what used to be a bottom fifteen heavyweight, like not bottom, like a like the bottom end of a top fifteen heavyweight, like like a guy who's like a Heath Herring, you know, like kind of talented, a little bit athletic, competent, And because heavyweight has just died, like just this withering, awful death,

Weald Cortez the Coasta wants Blades.

Next. We have a graphic to this effect.

The last thing for me, you call out Curtis Blades Stylistically he might seem to be your most difficult matchup in the way class. Do you believe he would be the most difficult appument for you?

That's for jamatte Quarters Blades inter.

DeFi no no.

No, noo.

Ran lo.

Social media, Uh listen, I don't think it's gonna be a tough challenge.

I I do believe I've had harder challenges, especially in my last three fights, and I don't think it's gonna be that much.

And listen, I.

Want Curtis Blaze because he's been saying some things on social media and people who talk crap I don't like him, so I don't.

Head of just one quick one. The Mexico card is getting built like very quickly. It already has the main event. Would you rather fight in Mexico on the undercard or your headline a card against Curtis Blades.

Mexico quite good.

Or Meico you gonna pa. I don't care where they put me in there.

I want to fight in Mexico and I want to rip Curtis Blade's head off in Mexican.

His chances to defeat Curtis Blades or what.

That's a really good question, Luke. I think he's I think that's a great call out because is like the only other dude you kind of call out at that point if you're WCA is I mean, maybe you try to moonshot Cyril gone because Tom might be out for a while. But like the other guy's Alexander Volkov and

Yeah, I'm kind of there. It's like he lost to Pavlovich.

So I do think we've seen some of the limits of what Cortes Costa can be. But the Blades one is again, he's earned a fight like that, and honestly, Blades could use some momentum that cortesl Coasta has built for himself. I actually like the call out. I like the fight. Put it in Mexico, put it whatever they want. I don't know, but I definitely like what he's thinking, all right, which takes us to Jesus O God the fuck me.

Here's how Here's how bad this fight was.

I talked to Brian Campbell all day yesterday via text, were just sharing a bunch of thoughts.

Huh, who's that.

Oh, he's this guy who when he watches straweights, puts his pants around his ankles and then masturbates at the bus stop. But putting that aside, good day for him yesterday, then yeah, a little chili.

Well.

I was just gonna say, here's how Brian did not shit on this.

I want to be clear. But the fact that he didn't even bring this fight up to.

Me, he had nothing to say about it, I think tells you what, dude, this fight was bad.

This Rose Nama units Italia silver fight. It was bad.

I kind of thought Rose maybe deserved to win it. I do recognize Silva probably won the third I guess the second round was a bit of a swing round.

I don't know. I don't know where the hell Rose is.

I don't know what's happening with where she's coming or going in terms of her space in this division. She still beats people, but then she loses fights or she doesn't seem to have the kind of urgency that she would need. Jed and more to the point, Silva was dancing like she was doing you know that Dak Prescott warm up where he does the hip twist everywhere like that, you know I'm talking about. Yeah, she was doing Prescott. Her frontwork was doing the Dak Prescott. No again, she

She does the Dak Prescott in the middle of the fight constantly, just like she's.

It drives me crazy.

But she did have the nice throw that That sidekick to the face on Rose was nice. But just just just what has happened to Rose? Your reaction to this bout, and then we'll talk about what happens next.

After I heard about this today from me find dot com, so you can check it out. It's up on the site by now. We do like a put an after action report for the thing. And I like Rosa Immunis. I feel when I watch her fight, and when I watch her fight the last several fights since she's moved up to flyway, I can I think of the Lewis Carrol Matt Hatter quote, you used to be much more, muchier.

Yeah, she might still win again, but you know, whatever the magic was that, I don't. I don't know what happened to it. Also, I was so bummed out by the fight. Again, it wasn't the worst fight I've ever seen her something, but just the accumulative weight or the cumulative weight I should say of how poorly women's MMA has just become interned. I put out a thread yesterday and be like, hey, what are the best women's fights

But then one thing I noticed was I can't.

Remember any of them being within the last few years, you know what I mean, Like all the ones that they're picking happened, you know, twenty twenty or or much earlier than that, including into the Strike Force days. I don't know what has happened to the game. There's probably a few factors to say it, but Jesus bro it is I don't want to be this way where the first two cars in the paramount era jed there's one fight on the card from Saturday and there are fucking

Game's gone.

Brother, It's just not the same anymore, and I'm not getting the same amount of enjoyment.

It really is quite depressing. I have to be.

Honest, has in fact done changed. I don't, dude, I don't know how to save it. It's so it is die or.

Like our era of MMA was better.

But dude, what is this era's equivalent to to for example, Misha Tate versus Katz and Ghano, Like, what's the equivalent.

That it's not a boomer it's objectively true. I know that it's objectively true because all the same women's fighters who were good are still in the top of the rankings now Mesha Tait is a ranked bandam way, And that's not a vision we're talking about. But like, this has been these same not dude, same women for ten years and it's not like they got better because they got ten years older. Like it's it is there and they're so limited, like grow, like like who who's coming along?

Yea, it is.

It is tough scenes right now.

Your level of excitement for Natalia Silva versus Shifchenko.

Oh incredibly limited. And I want to be very clear about this. I am an enormous uh Valentina Shipchenko stan I've been standing her for literal years. That is not because she It's the exact opposite reasons that I stand justin Gaechee and ury Prashka. She is not the most fun person to watch. I am when she competes. I am watching, in my estimation, the greatest female fighter of all time. And so I will I will have polite,

All right elsewhere on this card, and this was a fun one for me. A little bit heartbreaking based on the way that it went, but not so much. Jayon Silva looked I think, I'd say, much more patient this time.

And it went over Arnold Allen.

How much did this restore your faith that Jahon Silva could contend for a title following that loss to Diego Lopez, but now with this great win over Arnold Allen.

Dude, I this was the fight I was the most curious about because I said, after Jean Silva lost to Diego Lopez, and I think even said in the pregame preview that we did, I was like, I wonder if that loss will be a justin Gaugee moment, because remember when Gaigie came in from WSOF and he's like, I'm just trying to get into car crashes and then he got knocked out. He like finally found his equal and went back to the lab and retooled his game in a very effective way. I was like, maybe that's just

You know what he that reminded me of when he was like surfing like that. People were saying, oh, it was like Diaz against Silva when he just kind of laid down, you know. But to me, it's like, dude, Jayon Silva brings regional MMA energy to a high level about you know, where he's just doing shit. You would never expect that. It's crazy, that makes no sense as kind of on kind of weird, kind of crazy, and it just works.

You know, dude, he's Michelle Pereira. If Michelle Phta was good, that's just it. Like he's he's Michelle. And I loved Dmolador like I he was so fun regionally as a complete psycho, and then when he retooled this game, he got boring and then he just got bad. John Silver is just way better. Also, I've been on this corner, but I want to get this takeout. John Silva is the best of the fighting nerds. I've been saying it. I think he is the most talented, best fighter of the nerds.

You think he's better than Kyle?

I do?

Would Kyle be two?

I think Kyle's two because I and Protest is three, and I think Ruffy's four, But like that's is there anybody else there that's like? Because I know they got uh he's counting them. They're below those four anyway. But like I I thought for a while, Jean Silva was the best bet for the fight he nerds to get a belt. Still feel that.

Way, Arnold Allen, you knew that the same thing was going to plague him in this file. You didn't if it was going to be a losing factor or not, but that it would be something he had to overcome. He kind of starts a little bit late. I did think he opened up on him a little bit in that second round with some better energy, but he had even lower output in the third than he did I think in any of the other two previous rounds. And you know, for me, jed in a sport where again

Yeah, he's I love Arnold. I think arn Allen seems like one of the very few fighters who I would genuinely just like to hang out with, like would just be a good time, and he's very good. He is like kind of the worst of the Trystar team to me, not like as a fighter, but he is. My issues with TriStar is that it is like a much more defensively focused gym, and he doesn't have any of the things that he needs to really really excel at the top,

I think.

Let's move down to topic topic number four, which is the preliminary card itself. So there was, well, there's a lot to go over here. Let's start with the what they call the main event of the prelims. Umar number Gamdeov kind of easily for the most part beats Stevinson figuredo.

But the reality is Jed by the.

End of the about and other periods before, but certainly by the end of the bout, Umar was getting booed by the crowd. Now I'm not here to validate the booze as such, but it just seems to kind of signify something to me. Number one Umar and Usman number gam Madov are obviously very good, but they're not habib like. They're a step down from that pretty clearly to me, they can do a lot of things, speaking of people that have a lot of tools, but they don't have

Gifts that's going to get you to me. Jed.

It's interesting that you had a nerma Goa Madeov on this card. And anytime there's a number goa madev in the PFL, whether there's attending or on the card itself, they blow it up like it's the biggest deal. UFC kind of downplayed it this time, to be honest with you. They put the guy on the fucking prelims for crying out loud. How do you read this performance and how the UFC perceives or Umar nember goa madoff following Saturday's.

Whin dude Luke has has any fighter of the past year, like the past twelve months had a worse year that didn't lose a bunch, right, like you know somebody losing five fights sort of for sure, But like Umar's stock this time last year. I mean, I guess this time twelve and a half months ago, right, I you everybody we did a pregame preview was like Umar is going to beat Morob because he's the best band of weight

Habib was mean people, people forget this, Like his style was. You know, you'd feel bad for people if they spend a lot of time underneath him. You're like, dude, this is fucking hard to watch a little bit because they can't do shit and they're getting beat up, and then he's setting up submissions eventually towards the end, I mean, and again for folks who may remember, recall he could

And he's beaten the shit out of him.

He had a gear he had and like he had a level of like I'm going I am better than you and I'm going to hurt you the same that Islam has, like they and maybe that's just natural, right because like if you think about it, that kind of makes sense to me. Of like, Okay, Habib and Islam, outside of being training partners for life. They were both sort of into They were the vanguards of this camp. They they sort of led the way, and then the

I'd be really curious to see what they do with him this year, given that, like people are starting to get like exactly how good he is or how limited he is.

I think this year is going to be really.

How they treat Umar. Tell you a lot about how they treat the kind of fighter that Umar is.

I'll be looking forward to that, all right.

I'll tell you what I do like from Umar is he he seems to recognize what's going on that he is not. He had not a good year basically because he's coming out and be like, I'll fight anybody, dude, I don't care. He's not trying to negotiate his way into a title fight as he previously was really doing. He's just like, dude, it doesn't matter if I got to fight somebody, line him up on, knock him down. And I think that's how he got to be right because he has not blown the doors off people. He

That brings us now to a table. Gotier.

Now, he did win, and he did brutalize his opponent, but his opponent pole I turned out to be tougher than what is it a two or three dollars stake, whatever the saying is.

I gotta tell you, I don't think that that matters. If you're paying two or three dollars, you're probably getting the same quality of steak luke.

Fair enough anyway, whatever the saying is, he got he got worked, but he survived and in fact fought back a little bit. And what it kind of showed was Gotier clearly jet a physical force and still young enough where he can do some stuff, but a little green, a little offensively limited. He had an opponent circling out to his weak side and he kept crowing this figure it out as opposed to the hook, and I'm watching this him.

I was like, dude, greet him with the hook? What are you doing?

It was It's one of those things like obviously the table gotier, much better fighter than I am. Like, I'm not saying that, but I was just like, dude, at what point, at what point does your brain be?

Like?

Man, every time I'm trying to throw this right hand, he's even further over and so I'm just like punching nothing. What if I try the hand that's closer to him? It was nuts.

Hey, Long Island, Louke, can you do me a favor? Perhaps there is acting up here for just a second. Can I have just a minute to go fix what she with devastation? She has laid ways too.

Yeah, I'll put jed full and uh.

All right, I'll be right back. I'll be right back right.

Oh dude, I'm the captain now, boys.

Yeah, the chat is gonna hate this.

The chat is going to be furious that I'm the captain.

That they'll be alright with it.

Chad, let's talk about the I want to say one more thing about Gotier, because as Luke sort of teed it, I was like, dude, he's still twenty three, so that's totally fine. But I then I pulled it up. Uh because Long Island. He's been fighting now for four years, so yeah, he is green, but he's twenty three. And the fact that he could win again against a limited opponent, I'm certainly not here to say that is some world beater. The fact that he won, he wasn't really in danger

All right, I'm back, Hold on one second. Oh the fucking thing fell off? Hang on? Did two key break that tear here? And I gotta switch earplugs.

Tuki has been absolutely start about that.

My daughter, she came in the house and I heard it, and then I heard her come screaming down the hallway, which meant that in arctic temperatures, she had left the door open, which she did. That's good, and there was all this shit in the house as a consequence, so I had to go fix that. Okay, sorry about that, don't forgive you all right, very good. Well, let's get to the rest of what we saw here. Alex Perez

He is.

I don't know how surprised should we be by this win.

We shouldn't be surprised because Charles Johnson defies expectation constantly. Like it just seems like he's gonna win the fights he's gonna supposed to lose, and lose the fights he's supposed to win. He didn't like the stoppage.

I don't.

I think that's fine. The thing I am most surprised about, frankly, is not Charles Johnson. The end of it is, like I thought Alex Perez was, We're washed, and I guess he's still got some juice in him, right, Like he you know, he won the fight his first win. He's the only won like two fights on his last seven or eight.

Uh.

But like that's good on Alex Prez. And Charles Johnson remains an enigma to me.

He's got a weird career.

He's got he has the lost to Makaievka his UC debut fine, fair enough, totally explicable, you know, And he's got the loss to Ody Osborne, which was split and that was a few years ago. All right, Cody Durden can wrestle, okay, and then he goes on a bit of a four fight win streak, which you put Van in Sumaderja and he, of course, he knocks out Van in round three, and then he's just kind of been up and down since then. He has to win over a loner Kavanaugh. But then, dude, I didn't see it coming.

What? How should we feel about Josh Hokit.

He's a good fighter. He's not like a great fighter, but he's also fairly young, especially at heavyweight. I mean, the truth is, if looking at Josh Hokit, my abdominant thought is, if I were a semi decent but not exceptional light heavyweight, I'd move up to heavyweight because Josh Hogin is just beating heavyweights because he has a gas tank that is not you know, held down by fifty extra pounds of fat. So it's just like, but this, I have to say. He's not a good fighter. He

Yeah, he's unbearable, but the problem is he's good and that's going to take him pretty far.

And just just reusing old pro wrestling stuff will take you far in the sport because because nobody else is doing anything at all, the bar is on the floor for being died like interesting and at the minimum, he's doing that.

So let's go to point number five. Oh sorry, before we do. Before we do, we do have Dana talking about So there was this Michael Johnson Alexander Hernandez bout that was on the card, but the betting lines were kind of crazy. Some places had limited betting before the fight, and then Dana or the UFC, I should say, ended up pulling the bout altogether. In the wake of the Isaac Dulgarian scandal, we were like, okay, did a betting integrity firm tell them to pull it?

Turns out that they did here's Dana. Yeah.

Lastly for me, we did have a fight cancelation's day. Not a lot of details on the information of what happened there. There's speculation that maybe this was a wagering flag.

What can you tell that's what it is?

Happened again, you know, we we get we got called from uh, you know, the Gaming Integrity Service, and I said, I'm not doing this shit again.

So we pulled the.

Fight, canceled fight from today. Like what happens now?

Is there an investigation?

Like?

Yeah, I mean, the the FBI is already you know, deep into all this stuff anyway, so I'm sure this one will We'll be next, right.

So, like, are those guys out of action until something concludes or is it just one.

Side of the fight that I don't know?

Your reaction, dude, this can rocked?

Uh, dude, I wish I was in. I just want to be in one paramount meeting this week and be like, God damn. We got the full UFC experience for our first one A. We had a major fight fall off the card. We had a guy almost die away, and we had a gambling scandal and we had a dude, get on the mind. I can just issue casual bigotry, like they got the whole enchilada as far as what you can expect from a UFC fight card and a banger of a fight in the main event.

So good on.

Paramount to get it all in this gambling thing. I saw it like I was in transit when I saw the first tweets about line movement happening, and I was like, Oh, that's unfortunate because I had money on Alexanderrnandez and then it got pulled. And it's very obvious why I got pulled. I don't know that anybody has confirmed anything, but like to me, Luke, this is this is just sort of the nature of the sport and its current incarnation. Because

Yeah, and as a long on Luke points out, which I had seen before, again, it may utterly be coincidental. I have no idea the causal relationships such that there is even any. However, this is yet another adjacent house fighter from Iridium and then another Factory X fighter as well, So geez.

I also want to point out I brought this up on Friday's show. I said, Oh, the lines have actually moved a lot. A lot of money has come in on Michael Johnson. I didn't think it was anything worth like flagging at that moment, but they continued to come down.

It's just interesting that we were talking about.

Yeah, I have to guess that that is circumstance, because you'd have to be either the ballsiest or the stupidest motherfucker alive to be to be like in the crosshairs right now and be like, I'm gonna do it again. This is not the fucking town. I'm gonna put a move on them. Man, then we're still gonna throw a fight like.

In the Jason House defense too, though he does have like sixty percent of the roster, you know what I mean, Like the odds just mathematically, mathematically, it's the factory X thing is a little more in factory.

The factory X thing is the one that's interesting. It's like, I think it just has to be coincidence. But man, you get enough coincidences and that starts to become a problem.

Yeah, it's certainly an interesting fact.

All right, Last, but not least, let's just talk about the overall event and the presentation and the broadcast and and everything else they're in jen It's a simple question. UFC three pretty four broadcast debut on Paramount. Some changes. Some folks thought not enough, some folks thought just right. They added a bunch of new elements. We had the war Pigs run down and the sizzle reel, and we had the normal sizzle reel. Then we had the Travis

The broadcast. If I'm not considering the fight card.

I mean they're all kind of related.

But yeah, well, but like, overall, I would give this card a B minus because I think a lot of it was missus, but you ended on a high note, and that's the most important thing. If I'm just talking about the broadcast of production elements, I'll give it a C plus, like a little bit of a docked point there, because I do want to be open to the idea that I forget who said it from the OC, but it came out and was like, we're trying some new stuff. Bear with us. Most of the new stuff they tried

So let's talk about the ads too.

I mean, I guess as a general perspective, I've worked with Kate Scott Kate Abdo.

I think she's great.

I think the shows she's on with CBS Sports Colaza with Jamie Kerrigher are big meeks and Terry Henree is fucking first rate.

I absolutely love it.

I don't know that there a lot was necessarily added to the broadcast in this particular way, nor did I expect it to be. It's just a little hard to stand out, but they were trying to get it. The CBS rub fair enough shost.

All of them.

They did a certainly the job that they were tasked with doing. The pacing sucked, Dude. The Travis Barker thing, I was like, dude, what the fuck is the connection between this bullshit? I've interviewed Travis Barker a number of times. He is legitimately a huge MMA fan. When I was on Serious Exam and I would do their pre fight shows, he would call in every single time, and we didn't pay the guy, like he just wanted to talk fights. It was crazy. So respect to him as an MMA fan.

In your mind.

I think that they did, and I think that's really the most important consideration, including that main event. As you indicated, then it was a bit of a success. But I do want to talk about the ads because here's my view on this. It is absolutely fucking naive to think. I don't even know if it's honestly mathematically possible for the Paramount plus service to make money on this deal just doing subscription as their play, right, We're just gonna make money from how many people sign up. I don't

This jet same do we have the same thing as I do? Have one major criticism.

I pay for YouTube Premium. I pay for it.

I don't ever see ads, And as someone on YouTube, I recognize that ads is how I make a lot of money, But I pay into the premium one so that my experience using the service is on interupted, and I would pay for a tier where I could watch walkouts and I would not have to see again. They probably couldn't get rid of all the ad integrations because they were doing it like on lower thirds and on the sides of screens like during intros. You probably can't

I would pay for that.

It's just they don't have that available, and so I don't know what else to say.

This is just what it's gonna be.

So that is my criticism because I don't care about the ads. I'll even say I actually and this maybe is just because we shifted over and so it is different. I got a diversity of ads right that ESPN when it was working and wasn't freezing, which credit to Paramount. Some other people had problems. I didn't have any issues with the streams, so good on them for that. I at least got different ads. I got the same three ads of ESPN over and over and by the end of the night I want to blow my brains out.

I'll also say this, and this is you know, I don't think this is good and I wouldn't want it this way. But one of the things that shocked me one time was that I watched just let me go through this. I watched a the Colombian national team soccer team play. I forget who they were playing, but they were playing and I was in Colombia at the time, so I was watching the game on national television.

There.

Dude, during the fucking games, listen to this. During the fucking games, They'll play an ad on the screen. It won't block up the entire screen, but it takes up a lot of real estate. And then the audio goes over the top and they kill the audio of the broadcast itself, so you just have to hear the commercial play through and it doesn't matter what action is happening on the field. So they usually play it when the ball is like ad midfield or something.

They kind of strategically wait.

But I've seen it where they're like they're in scoring drives and they're getting close and then they're trying to attack and you're hearing like ads for fucking you know, Coca Cola or whatever over the top, and I'm like, dude, I hope this is not our few sure. To me, it was an enormous amount. They didn't do something like that. They didn't interrupt like the integrity of the actual fight broadcast during the fights themselves, but it got close to it.

It's not gonna be real, Matt because of the difference of the sport, right, But like I've always thought that that's sort of how they should do ads anyway, right, especially for live sports, is like give me a constant feed of the of the game and you can go back like picture and picture, here's the ad with the audio. They do it on red zone and they pick like the boring time of red zone where nothing's happening. Now that red zone has ads, which is bullshit or whatever,

Yeah, for a point, let's talk about, well, actually know what Dana was asked about the amount of ads.

Here's what he had to say.

Obviously, we are no longer on pay per view, so where was a bit of a different viewing experience tonight. There's a lot of ads during the broadcast, sometimes over the walks and sometimes over the corner work. Is that something fans are gonna have to get used to or is that a work in progress that you'll change?

I haven't seen it yet, and all of this is a work in progress. It's eight ninety nine. You're not paying fucking you know. However, much more of these guys kind of make some money too.

So yeah, would that be something that they decide or would you watch it back and maybe think, okay, the co main event, we should still hear the corner work or are you just like listen parent not paid for it. They get to decide, Well.

That is a fact, let's start there. But these guys are incredible to work with already, so we'll figure it out.

I mean again, I understand if people aren't used to it.

I don't disagree with data, like, bro, the shit is cheap it would you this is the question, right? Ultimately, would you rather be back on the ESPN deal and then have to pay for pay per views or do you want ads? And it's a much cheaper price, and I honestly think that most people are gonna be like, I'll just live with the ads.

Yeah, And I think that's fine.

Man.

Again, I I'm surprised they went this heavy this early, because usually your first encounter, especially one that was very openly about, you know, new new fan acquisition, like this was an acquiring event for them for them to not just like we're not even gonna have any ads just because this is all frontloaded to draw you in and then we shit a fhy later. But that's not what they did. And I think that's fine, right, because yeah, I don't I want to be able to see the

Loop.

The money's got to come from somewhere.

Is gonna come from this economics one oh one, there's no such thing as a free lunch. Let's talk a little bit about the discretionary bonuses. They got rid of them, right, So these like backroom bonuses of whatever. They ended up being three thousand dollars in terms of what they show. But I'm sure they go higher than that, of course, and they have gone higher. So instead, what they're doing

I do want I just want to say this. I just want to say this.

It's nice that the bonuses are bigger, and it's nice that if you get a finish you automatically get a bonus. I'm not saying that on their face they're bad. What I'm asking people to do is stop looking at the sticker price and then just do some arithmetic and what your notice is this is a total outlay of less than the eight that they got at this one event. I just hope everyone understands we're talking about chump change in a seven point seven billion dollar deal.

Dude, Luke. This is not true for for the mk fans, who are smart, educated, brilliant people. I'm in the comments I know of which of them, Yes, all of them. Really, they're all the best people. This fan base thinks that Josh Josh Hokitt is a genius and a vanguard, and like you're expecting them to do the math on inflation. Come on, Like, I'm not. I just don't care enough. I'm having too good a day to be like, yes, this is more, but it's not at all what they're worth.

It's dope.

This was like, unambiguously the best thing to happen.

Uh.

Surrounding the new paramount deal is this because one shifting to a finished bonus. I year, for years I have been like, what they should do is stop giving performance bonuses and give finished bonuses. That's the best way to incentivize this sport to be more exciting because I was limited and was like, there's just no way they're going to add more money and then still do performance bonuses too, and shows what I know this new deal, They're like, fine,

Uh A, Long Island is saying it's not for submission. My understanding is it's any finish.

No, sorry, Luke, you misspoke.

Earlier you said Alex Perez got a submission win and he got telling you.

Yes, no, of course he did not. Yes, I apologize.

Indeed, not much to say on this dominic Ruz because of entering the UFC Hall of Fame again.

I don't know. I'm not sure what there is to say other than an.

Easy, easy call about brand who clearly were the higher achievers in the sport.

No issue there, I'm sure I have.

I have one thought, because I on a easy this is there's nobody could argue with it. I do kind of wish the UFC would have maybe not like a you know, the NFL, it's like a five year waiting period. I do think it might be better if there was a little bit of a waiting period. As he retired last year, let's put him in the hall. He's one. You also get fighters unretired. I don't think that's gonna happen with dom I'm pretty done, but like you could, it might be nicer. Like last year when Mark Kerr

Fair enough, I'd be okay with a bit of a waiting time as well, which is again how traditional Hall of Fames do it.

But he was going to go in sooner or later.

Again that's a nitpick.

And then, last but not least, here's kind of interesting. People are complaining about the pacing at UFC three twenty four, which fair. Even the UFC Zone Craig Borsorry, I think, was tweeting being like, Okay, this is a little bit of a special example.

It won't necessarily be this way going forward.

But what was interesting was if you watch Zuva boxing, the pacing was immediate. I mean their pacing was fantastic. Now it was nothing but decision.

The only good thing about that broadcast.

Yes, how do you feel about ZUFA Boxing one? What did you take away from that?

Uh, this is not a bit. I fell asleep, I was on my couch and I put it on to see and my immediate reaction was this is these are apex boxing matches, because that's what it was like. It just it felt like you put a UFC Patina over club level boxing bouts, and I fell asleep and I woke up to kalamolsh getting knocked down and winning. Uh, and so like it's fine, but if you are not a boxing fan, like if you are a UFC fan or a fight fan, I don't know that this has major appeal.

At least that has nothing for people were checking MMA fans were checking it out.

They're not gonna last.

They're not. And I like, here's how you know it's bad. Dana was critical, like of the first one. He was just like one of our best stuff. It's like, yeah, and maybe it'll get better. Boxing is certainly boxing as we know, it is much more star driven than the UFC has become a year like over the years. Uh. And you know it looks like they got gio Opati. I don't know if that's true or not, but you know,

And the part to me that just drives me nuts about him and we can move on. I've said that.

At this point, but it's like, the thing that drives me nuts is he wants to always talk about how it's better to have like a governing central not body per se, but a promoter who occupies a central role as like you know, with the NFL, a rough equivalent of what the NFL means.

For football or NBA for basketball.

And it's like, fine, I'm not even willing to I'm not even opposed to the idea that there can be a way which that can be a good system, although

I don't know.

Hey, I'm not knocking that. I'm sure that that check is good. But my biggest thought was, like, man, that check must be real good. He's just laying it on. He is laying it on thick.

He just won't stop. All right.

That is our top five. But now it is time for all of you to ask us questions. It's time for dms from donks. And the donkey has ejaculated, all right, So this is how it works. On Sundays, we ask you guys on ig for your questions.

You can do that at morning.

I think it's morning combat on Instagram. Let's go first to our friend at put it up on the screen. I want to read it this way from MMA fan Belfast. I would love to go to Belfast first, Jose Aldo and now justin Gaichie. How are why do such unbelievable

Actually.

Yeah, Like people on Finnite were very into this, and I was like, yeah, that makes sense to me that he wouldn't do this one Like, I know that kicking is a very good weapon, and we start. He started to do that in the later rounds a little bit, but mainly it was Patty can kick with me, and I don't want to do that. Also, if I kick him, the likelihood of be getting taken down is it goes up,

Would be huge.

But it's not like he was head hunting and missing. He kept head hunting and killing him. So keep doing it. But then you go back and look at the stats, like against PHYSIV, he didn't throw that many. Against Max, he threw like forty or something like. This isn't This is not a Jose Aldo full blown. One of my best weapons is just something I no longer use, which was always a little weird for Aldo. I think this was just a strategic decision for this matchup.

From Brantendo sixty four, he says is the last generation of the lightweight division, the most stubborn old guard in UFC history. That's a good question. I feel like they've only lost to each other or potential goats. John Jones decimated two oh five, and it's never been the same since heavyweight they kind of aged out. I'm trying to think who was stubborn and on their way out the door. This is one of the biggest examples of.

Them, So.

I agree with the premise the heart of this question, because yes, like they're good, but again, look at the women's bandam Waight top fifteen. It's been the same for fifteen years, Like that old guard is hanging around, But that's more reflection of how bad the division is. Lightweight still whips. These guys are just incredible all.

Timers from fit Man Eats. Thoughts on the canceled bout due to the investigation, we kind of covered this one.

I'll just say this.

I didn't say this during when we were talking about it. I'm not saying to the UC couldn't have been more proactive about early in the week kind of flagging that this might have been an issue, and they had probably had some indication that there was an injury. However, what I'm gonna say is if a betting firm goes to them and says we have suspicious betting and then they pull the fight, that is a good thing and that is the correct decision. And they made the correct decision.

Yeah, one hundred percent, this was like, this is how it should work optimally, Because I don't know how much they knew that an injury was possible, right, Like they do medicals, but fighters lie on medicals all the time. Michaels being famously pretended he had working eyeballs and would still fly through. So like maybe they just straight up

I don't know. Probably the answer is probably not.

However, to their credits, the wrong word, and it's not even a benefit per se.

But the way in which whoever is getting.

These fighters to throw fights, and again people can use their imagination, they're picking on a certain class a fighter, you know what I mean, rather than that's been the.

Case through the history of throwing fights. But like, I wish somebody had asked Dana when he said this, because like we said, fully agree with the choice, but I wonder where the line is on which fights they would do and not do. If shawna Valley saw a Dong had it that's not the main event, maybe they would have pulled it if suddenly, you know, the line moved two hundred points there it is. I think that this

Now, all right, let's move to the next one from flannels and JITs. After seeing the first show, what are your expectations for what the paramount era will be for the UFC. I wouldn't read too much into the first event, to be honest with you, not yet anyway. Let's I think a pattern has to emerge before everyone can just be ready for what it all means.

I think I learned nothing from this that I didn't already know. It's going to be the same. The UC has not grown to what they are because they are an amorphis shifting into tea. They have staked their claim they are what they are. They brought much of their production team over to CBS. There might be some new things, some a bell and whistle here, or there. But this is going to be the same UFC you've been watching, just at a different price point in America.

Last, but not least from MJ Silverfang. Will you guys make Jed actually shower and brush his teeth for the next pregame preview?

Jed, I did shower. I'm showered right now.

Do you brush those fangs?

Look, we don't need to talk about my dental hygiene, but I did shower. I showered last time.

I have brushed my teeth, but I have not showered, so I look you look that look fantastic. Uh A long Island, Luke. I'm sorry to do this. I need one more time. There are children running in and out of my house, and I need to go see if I need to call the cops very quickly because.

I don't children.

You added another for folks who don't know.

It's a fucking snow day and I have neighborhood kids everywhere.

And then there's I can just have it.

You guys have one of those things more when the door opens, there's like it's not an alarm, but it's like the front door open. Yeah, and all I hear when you guys are when Jed's talking. All I hear is front door open, front door open, back door open, front door open, back door open.

I'm like, back door open.

I'll be right, go chack gun and I'll put Jeb love it when the back door's open. Yeah, long island, Luke, what's going on?

Man?

Nothing? We do have one more segment, Jed.

I know I can't put us both on screen right now, which is unfortunate because else is bull. But either way it is higher or lower. Guys, we did do it last what Friday with Oscar? Or two fridays ago?

Yeah, you did two Fridays. We did last Friday.

I was there. Yeah.

So half of them are silly. Half of them are combat sport it's related. Most of them are combat sports related. All of them, dare I say, are combat sports related. But either way it should be fun. Elt looks like he's back all right, I'm back all right.

Of course your back door open, both of them, fucking both of them.

It's five degrees in my living room right now. This is amazing.

I mean, sounds comfortable.

ELTI very inviting, what a very inviting home you have?

Come on in, Elt, We're playing higher or lower again. So Okay, here it is higher or lower?

All right?

Eltie Europe first, but obviously Jed feel free to chime in as well. Sean O'Malley obviously might be next for pyotr Jan, but he said he's willing to wait for the Yon Morob trilogy to play out. So higher lower than one and a half the amount of fights Sean O'Malley will have for the remainder of twenty twenty six.

I'll take the under one.

Yeah, he's gonna have one.

And who is it gonna be against?

I'm saying Umar because I believe Look I call. I didn't really in my heart think Justin Gage is going to beat Patty Pimlet, but I just kept saying he would do it. I'm I'm very in on the secret and speaking truth to power. So let's let's go for Umar. Let's make it happen, all right.

But see, I feel like if he fights Umar, win or lose, he's probably gonna fight again in twenty twenty.

Six, because he's not gonna fight Umar until like the summer, and then he'll just be out for a while because then he'll be either waiting for a title fight or contemplating his career future.

All right, jud this one's for you. We obviously know you're a big fan of the Georgia Bulldogs. We know everyone you know you bark when you're a Georgia Bullet. Oh O go dogs. Yeah, we also know John Silva is a big fan of barking. So higher lower than three and a half the amount of times you barked along with John Silva during fight week zero.

I love Jean Silva a whole lot, except for his gimmicks are the gim of surfing on a dude A plus. We love that. The most that he communicates exclusively through barking is it's a bit tedious at this point in time, right.

He's got to do what?

Why are his nipples the size of pencil erasers?

I mean, they're very, very tilting to me.

I gotta I gotta tell you, I have not spent a lot of time dissecting the nipples of Jean Silvo. You and I watch fights in a different way.

My friend, Yeah, Well, I got a big ass screen right in front of me, and my man's out there cutting glass with those things, and I was like, that's a lot I need to see.

All that is men's featherweight. Luke's BC's strawweight. Is that what's going on here?

Yeah?

He's like, God, they have the best nipples in thatis that?

Those are some pretty sick areolas on John Silva.

Okay, I didn't say that. I just know those things stuck out and it was annoying. All right, let's be let's calm calm your tits. How about that?

Do that?

Lt.

Dana obviously admitted we talked about it, that the Johnson Hernandez fight was canceled after receiving a call from the Gaming Integrity Service. We know that they also reached out for the Dulgarian del Ville fight last year, but that was really the first time we've ever heard of them being in the spotlight reaching out to the UFC. It makes me think of how many times they've reached out

Take the over on that one, yeah, okay, to take the over on that one hard, all right?

So what are you thinking?

What what would have been a better higher or lower.

Like what what should double that? Yeah?

I think at least once a year.

In the last ten years, at least.

Once, yes, yeah, yeah, Jed, you're integrations.

Or at least on average, I mean because obviously you know gay or you know, but daily fantasy and then turning that into you know, more recreational gambling is relatively new, so but on average you have to be harder than that.

Yeah, right, Jed, this one's for you.

Uh.

Lewis obviously didn't look great on Saturday, but heavyweight is so bad that I still think at forty years old, he is a viable resource. So my question to you, you can pull up the rankings if you need to higher or lower than seven and a half the amount of top fifteen heavyweights you would favor Derek Lewis to win over I mean.

A top fifteen. So basically, can he beat more than half of the current ranked heavyweights. I'm going to reflexively say I would favor him fewer, but let's go through it real fast. I assume we're counting Tom Asmol as a champion. No zero gone, no Volkov, no Pavovich, no Blades, no WCA, no, I'll made a no. I mean he has lost to all of these. Yeah, it was just this point, so that's seven right there, seven straight.

No, but look at this back half. Look at this back half.

I mean he can't count himself. Spevac no Delia, I mean no, not off that laud performance. Tibera, No, I wouldn't. That's the thing. He could beat them, Like, once we get past Spevac, It's like he could beat these people. I still wouldn't favor him against Daliya, Tibera, Kadziev. I know he lost to ty To Ivasa, but like they kind of should just fight again because they're both in shambles. Yeah, big part, like I under by a mile.

All right, I would have thought that was a good line.

I would favor him against Talison to Shaa because he just beat him.

LT.

We know you didn't want to see debt and co at the sphere with PC, but I would rather get fucked to death.

Okay, but you did that, so that means you you want to get very specific.

No, that's not what that means.

That means that, given the choice I had to I had a debt to pay, Remember, I lost a bet, I had to go do it.

All right?

Well, either way, I'm going to assume when you go see a band you actually like that, you probably have some gummies in your tummy.

So sure.

My question to you was at.

The sphere specifically high or lower than ninety nine and a half milligrams the amount of delta eight you had you ate before dead and coo at the spear.

Oh brother, I mean you ever seen those cartoons when they're at the fair and they take the hammer and then they hit the thing and then it shoots up and it dings at the top. Buddy, you could do that one hundred times in a row. Take the motherfucking over on this one.

Were talking how many hundreds?

I mean, I think I started at one hundred before we even got there, all.

Right, Well, that that's what I meant, like before you got no, but like we were there.

So the way it worked was we got there early and they had tickets for us because one of the obviously BC was friends with one of the guys who was in the vand and then we hung out with them kind of not backstage, but like in a private area, and then there was even more to indulge at that point. So by the time the fight started, the fights I'm sorry the concert started.

I was, I mean, how are dead and come?

But he's nipples?

Do you have any?

John? Old guys?

And they were mercifully they were clothed. What I will tell you is, bro, have you ever been to like it's a year from Georgia. You ever been to like a widespread panic concert?

Yes, Okay, I'm not I'm not happy about that, but.

It's like, it's a what do white guys who are in middle age who are not into gospel but like to just sway when they stand when they're listening to me? They do they go to shows like this one.

That's what.

This is a good move, like you just you're rocking along?

It was.

It was it looked like people people are like putting their hands up like this, you know. It looked like gospel just no religion whatsoever.

It was. It was interesting.

Everyone has their own different kinds of religion.

And I was like, where are you pussy's gonna mash, but get the fuck out my way?

And then they started rowing, uh, John, I want to.

See fucking Luke Thomas pushing fifty mahing Still.

No, I'm too old for that shit. But I've told the story before. This is not a joke. The last time I saw Cannibal Corpse, this is really true. I saw them at the Filmore in Silver Spring, Maryland, and there was a girl down there in the middle of this smash pit and a dude, I'm straight up just knuckling up with everyone.

I'm not talking, you.

Know, flailing, no bawling up the fist and just socking dudes in the face with it. And then I saw her get swallowed by the pit and then I never saw her the rest of the time we were there. So I don't know what kind of rules of the jungle that they allow at these shows, but it was it was a little concerning.

They sacrificed her later that night.

It probably did jed.

This one's for you.

John Silva probably has a legit argument for getting the next title shot, right if especially if they book Murphy Ofloyev, which is rumored to be happening in March. Nothing official, but without that fight taking place, they may still give it to him either way, because it's.

John Silva, He's marketable or whatever.

So my question to you higher lower than the amount of fights John Silva will need to take before.

Getting a title shot.

This is a good line. I'm taking the over. I think depending on how Vulk Lopez goes, what Vulk does with his career after that, and injury situation, John Silva could get there. I think it is unlikely. I think it's more likely he has to fight one more time and he'll do it and then he'll fight for the belt after that. So I'm taking the over.

Lt I'll take the over.

I'll take the over because, especially if Vulk loses and there's any kind of controversy about it, I don't think they're just gonna slot in Silva.

No, all right, but I feel like, all right, you guys might be right. I was gonna say win or lose. I feel like they're just gonna give John Silva the title shot. I just I could see it.

I mean again, I do think that is We're definitely a thing that you need to consider.

Like it is definitely in play. If Vulk being yes next week.

The line you're setting is the right one, I'll put it.

There's also a timing issue because if they do do I said do do do and I said do do?

I get it.

If they do end up going with movsar versus Murphy the winner of that is very clearly going to be the next guy, unless the timing does not work out at all. But you know that fight won't be in six weeks or whatever. It's not like that time he is that bad, So true, U.

LT back to you.

Ilia said recently that he's willing to come back in April, though obviously nothing is official, and with Justin winning the interim belt, maybe that increases the likelihood of that fight being at the White House, considering Justin is an American. So my question to you is higher or lower than five and a half the amount of months before we see Ilia versus Justin Gagee, This would put us at like mid June. All right, No, I guess it would put us.

Yeah, would mid jun because it's basically six months a little less than six months.

But it's also basically oh yeah, yeah, mid June.

I mean it's I'll take the over, maybe barely, maybe barely, but I'll take the over.

I think that you don't think it's happening at the White House.

Well I think it is happening at the White House. So how do I answer this?

Well, let's just say under for the White House, because that's like Okay, under.

The line is the White House card?

Yeah?

After the White House?

Yeah, you should have put in five or something.

You know, whatever I mean. Is it happening on the White House or after the White House?

My view as it happens at the White House.

Yes, Okay, Jed, I'll take the over.

I think I'm probably wrong, but I don't know. I just I'm not entirely confident Ily is going to come back as quickly as he's maybe talked about. He's got some stuff going on in his life and he might just wait a little bit.

I'm with you.

I think that Ilia is taking longer than we're gonna we realize right now, and this fight doesn't happening anytime soon. But you know, Jed, a lot of fans were unhappy with the amount of ads. Obviously, we talked about it, Dana replying by saying, it's only eight ninety nine.

What do you expect.

So, whether it's from annoyed fans wanting less ads, or from Data himself or the company themselves deciding they need more money per customer, a price increase is obviously inevitable, so higher lower than eighty nine and a half days, the amount of days before the next price increase on Paramount plus high.

I mean, they just they just knocked up their prices like at the start of this year. It'll one will come, It'll just come at the start of next year.

Yeah, they'll do the annual Oh we're gonna bump this up to blah blah blah.

You know.

Did ESPN I feel like they do midyear bumps all the time? Did they not?

They did, they did.

But remember they started at four ninety nine, like we're already at eight ninety nine, and then thirteen ninety.

Nine for free pay per views.

So the difference is ESPN's bumps to my recollection, their bumps were always pay per view price point bumps as opposed to like our sub feed bump.

That's a good point.

And it's like Netflix, Like Netflix does it I pay. I used to pay eight dollars or whatever, and I paid twenty six or whatever it is. Yeah, but it usually comes as an annual email like the one I got from Paramount being like your price is going up. True, and so I assume that it will happen. It will happen in December, all right, LT during.

Your live chot on Thursday and during MK on Friday, you showed everyone you were drinking sugar free A and W Roopier. Yes, obviously you must have got a twelve pack of it recently or something. So my question to you is higher lower than five and a half the amount of sugar free A and W roopiers you've drank in the last three days.

Take the five men I might have had all twelve in the last three days.

All right, this is what I was curious abou. Do you drink multiple in a day? Because you just kept pulling up?

Typically one a day, but like when fights get closer, it's two and sometimes three.

Yeah, yeah, all right, Jad you a soda guy at all. I like soda.

I don't like sugarless flavorless motherfuckers.

You don't know what the fuck you're talking about. Bro, nonut sweeteners are so much better than they used to be.

I can confidently say I have never tried it. So it just possible that have.

You had that mountain zero sugar? No?

I haven't, I don't. I gotta tell you, I don't know the last time I had a mountain dew.

In general, mountain do zero sugar is tremendo.

I used to drink mountain dew because it had high caffeine, and then they everyone just started making fucking energy drink. So I don't need that.

Do you know mountain dew? I think it is banned in the UK. No, it's not banned, but it's labeled as an energy drink in the UK because of it's caffeine content.

Yeah, that tracks. It's that ship was like Surge only only still around.

So a big jolt guy oh.

Man, Joel, I haven't thought of jolt years.

I couldn't believe this. I found this out. Colombia's got a soda called Roman Cola with a K. It predates Coca Cola. It was it was founded earlier than them, which I was shocked to.

Hear on the bottle.

Roman. I don't know, not, not not that I'm aware of.

How do we think that pairs with rum? It's good?

Oh it'sncola. It's pretty good. It's pretty good. I'll say that, Yes, all right.

Jed Geechie has said one more Ko loss and he's done. Trevor Whitman has said one more loss and he's done. Ilia fight obviously should be next. But there is a world justin wins. There's also a world, Ilia stays on the sidelines for however long, and Justin fights someone else. And there's also a world that even with a loss, Justin continues fighting. So my question to you is higher lower than one and a half the amount of fights Justin Gatchie will have for the remainder of his career over.

I think he's talked about it. I don't think we have that many. Assuming he loses to Ilia. I think he'll think about it, and then he'll want a couple of things, because he's spoken pretty open like he wants he wants another crack at Max and the BMF belt,

I think, I think I think if if to Pooria's next and to Poria ices him, U like, like puts him out cold.

I think that might be the end.

I mean, I understand it's I do think it's a good over under I understand your point, Luke. I'll just say, this is Mma who actually retires in this sport, true and justin like you know, he got the face plant Ko against Max and acts like that and never he's like, if I got knocked out bad, you know I'm done.

It's like you you've already been knocked out bad, you know.

To to his defense, his original thesis was always I've got five wars left in me, and he's now had three of them, so he's still got two left in the chamber to wars and or bad losses.

LT. This one's for you.

You once said you watch Volkanovski Holloway two forty nine times.

Yes, famously, And while the other.

Two fights weren't nearly as kind.

Guys are you? Guys are dumb? I want you both to know that.

The other two fights, Luke, weren't nearly as controversial, but you often neglect to mention how many times you've watched them, so higher or lower than nine and a half the amount of times combined that you've watched Volkanovsky Holloway one and three.

No, it'd be the over because I watched the first one a lot, and I know I watched the third one because of how one sided it was at least six or seven times. So between those two it's gotta be over ten.

If you're not doing tape study, how often do you rewatch a fight? Like what's an average your every day Let's say, like John Silva, Arnold Allen?

How many times are you going to watch that back.

Only for I mean only for tape study purposes of this one? All right? So yeah, all right, Like.

If there's I mean, I'll rewatch classic bouts or fun bouts or you know, I'll go down memory lane. But just it's just it's just it's not really it's just a question of how much time I have. And because my time is dude, I've got kids running through my goddamn living room leaving the fridge door open, you know what I mean. Like it's like I don't have time to be like, oh, what fun little adventure am I going to go down today? It's like, Okay, I've got to do tape studdy for X, Y and Z.

I'm going to focus on that.

I did do the math on you watching Volkanowski Holloway two forty nine times, and it came out to roughly twenty three hours, I believe.

So no, no, As I explained at the time, it's not totally right. I counted each time I fired up another like like tape session. So I may not have watched in a full tape session the entire five rounds. I may have watched rounds two and three, or I may have watched just the championship rounds, you.

Know what I mean.

So, so it's a it's an amalgamation of shorter stints than that.

All right, Uh? Jed last one for you, John Silva. Obviously he rode the back of Arnold Allen. We all thought it was funny, like he was a damn surfboard. In the waiting seconds of their about on Saturday. It got me thinking, has Jed ever surfed before?

So higher?

Lower than three and a half the amount of time in seconds you could smurf A smurf surf a small wave.

I couldn't smurf shit a small wave. I can.

I can get up.

I mean, I grew up on the coast there's not like a lot of great surfing in Savannah. But like I grew up on the coast, I did a lot of bodyboarding, much on boogie boarding because the waves are just not big enough.

Counting that we're talking.

Yeah, but like I have and am capable, I mean I haven't done it in years. I assume I am still have the baseline level of coordination to surf a small wave for more than three and a half seconds. But I'm not like dropping in a pipe.

Yeah, I mean I didn't think so that's why I put the over under a three. Yeah, lt you can put my big ass on the under. Yeah, trust that. I figured you were uncoordinated like that. No offense.

But anyways, guys, that was higher.

I could serve for human far less though, like I couldn't do what John Silva did, which was cool.

Dude.

I put on my Instagram story someone made like an AI thing where he starts riding Arnold Allen.

It turns into a skateboard he's at the skate park. That's so good, so fucking good. But that was higher lower guys, hope you enjoyed it.

Yes, I did all right, very good?

Uh, which now I think that's it that brings us to the end of the show.

Well done.

Uh, Jed, I saw your article. It is up on MMA fighting dot com. Why don't you plug your work dope?

Uh yeah, mmefin dot com. It's a great website.

Uh.

We have a but after action report for UOC three four you can get more thoughts on mine there and or other people at the thing.

Uh.

I don't know if you guys know this. There's a pay per view this week and.

Are you guys sending anybody?

No, we because it's in Australia. Who came decision not to which also super worked out because normally be Jose Jose, like Chuck strained it right now so he maybe it would actually be fine because maybe he just fly directly to Australia instead of trying to fly back. But no, no one going to be boots on the ground for this one. But we're going to do the same stuff.

Yes, I see You're coming around as soon as we signed off. I'm convincing you we're doing it this.

If you start opening up the topics to things that you know I studied in great detail, then yes.

Deal done, that's it. We're done. We're doing it.

Uh So if all of the topics are just the Max Holloway Volk too, we're good.

No.

So I did the very first episode and it was things like it was like there was a little bit like a bit of a DC trivia or history trivia, and I smoked all that it was. Then it was like, ah, what was the seventeen significant strike Throne by Oladay Osborne and his Contender series Round three perform out?

How the funck? Should I know? I don't pay attention to that level of it.

Come a long way, Luke. We're twenty five. This will be the twenty fifth episode. You know I've gotten a lot better mayhem question you So yeah, thank you?

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So Chuck sends his regards that he couldn't make it, but I think he'll be back. Well, he's still not home. I don't know when he's gonna get home, but hopefully he'll be home soon and we'll get him on air either this Friday or the following Monday. But Jet, thank you so much for filling in. We really appreciate a great job today. And yeah, stay tuned WMA Fighting dot com for more of Jed's work. Thank you guys so much for tuning in today. We really appreciate it. So for Long Island.

Luke, that's Jedmashue. I'm Luke Thomas. We'll see you next time, and until then, may all of your gains be loyal