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More Than A Lawyer with Holly Cope

I'm your host, Holly Cope. I'm an ex-lawyer turned entrepreneur. Join us for some epic conversations with some of the top lawyers in the world. They all have inspirational stories to tell, each with their own valuable lessons. I'll also be talking about how to stand out, build authority and influence as a lawyer.

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Episodes

Are Compliance Jobs the "Safest" in an AI World? With Global Head of Risk Management at Freshfields

In this episode, I'm talking with James Smither, Global Head of Risk Management at Freshfields. James is a self-described "risk geek" dedicated to redefining how law firms perceive uncertainty as both a massive upside and a critical downside. We talk about the "apocalyptic spectrum" of AI risks - from the common trip-ups like hallucinations and citation errors to the looming threat of quantum computing breaking modern encryption. You’ll hear why the traditional graduate recruitment model is offi...

May 03, 202644 min

An AI-First Culture Looks Like This with DocuSign's Head of Legal Operations

In this episode, I'm talking with Sandy MacDonald, Senior Director and Head of Legal Operations at DocuSign. Sandy is recognised for building an "ahead of the curve" team that treats AI not just as a tool, but as a collaborative digital assistant embedded into the very fabric of their workflow. We talk about the cultural shift of AI adoption and how focusing on individual "pain points". You’ll hear perspectives on "human-in-the-loop" governance and why the most successful legal teams are moving ...

Apr 19, 202649 min

How To Create a Claude- Native AI Law Firm with Zack Shapiro

In this episode, I'm talking with Zack Shapiro, founder of an AI-native law firm, Rains LLP. Zack is a corporate lawyer focused on startups and business law who has transformed his two-person practice into a high-leverage powerhouse serving over 200 clients. Despite describing himself as "uniquely bad at using tech tools," he has pioneered a "Claude-native" workflow that uses agentic AI to handle his legal work. We talk about the shift from "billable hours" to "high-judgment lawyering" and how p...

Apr 12, 202648 min

What AI Really Means for the Next Generation of Lawyers

I'm talking with: Peter Boyce, one of the legal deputy directors in the civil service and AI lead for his agency. Amy Cronin, senior director of legal at Skyscanner. Alexander, Co-lead of AI Research at Thomson Reuters. David Mazur, Vice President, General Counsel & Compliance Officer for Nestle. In this episode, we explore how AI is reshaping entry-level roles in law firms and what it means for the next generation of legal professionals. With firms increasingly investing in AI tools for hig...

Apr 05, 202620 min

Who Really Holds the Power in Law Now? (with Head of Legal Regulatory at Revolut)

In this episode, I'm talking with William Finlay, Head of Legal Regulatory at Revolut. He leads the group regulatory team within the legal department. A global fintech powerhouse that is leading the charge in integrating AI into both customer-facing products and internal back-office workflows. We talk about the "top-down" vs. "bottom-up" approach to AI adoption and how Revolut balances its dual role as both a user and a reviewer of the technology. You’ll hear perspectives on why the traditional ...

Mar 29, 202629 min

The Lawyers Who Survive the AI Era Will Do This (with the GC of R&D at Nestle)

In this episode, I’m talking with David Mazur, Vice President, General Counsel & Compliance Officer, who leads efforts in Intellectual Property and R&D contracts at Nestlé , a global organization that is pioneering AI-driven patent drafting and legal innovation. David brings a "maverick" perspective to the table, viewing AI not as a threat, but as an empowering technology that democratizes creativity within corporate legal teams. We talk about the shift from traditional templates to "age...

Mar 22, 202645 min

Why Law is Becoming the New Battle Ground in This AI Era (with Co-lead of AI Research at Thomson Reuters)

In this episode, I’m talking with Alexander, Co-lead of AI Research at Thomson Reuters. He is the former founder of a specialised AI research company, acquired by Thomson Reuters, that developed Large Language Models (LLMs) for law from the ground up. His team is now focused on building the Thomson LLM, a specialized model designed to achieve the high-stakes reliability that generic AI models lack. We talk about the "tectonic shifts" currently reshaping the industry, from Harvey’s bold move into...

Mar 15, 202640 min

How Legal Teams Are Actually Handling AI: Government Vs Skyscanner

AI is transforming the legal world, but how do legal teams navigate a landscape overflowing with tools, evolving risks, and shifting workforce dynamics? In this episode, we go behind the scenes with a UK government lawyer and an in-house legal director to explore how top teams are actually approaching AI. I'm talking with Peter Boyce, one of the legal deputy directors in the civil service and AI lead for his agency. I'm also talking with Amy Cronin, senior director of legal at Skyscanner. We cov...

Mar 08, 202630 min

LinkedIn Brought Me £100k+ In Complex Legal Work with Sahar Farooqi

Most lawyers talk about career progression as if it’s a straight line. But the reality looks a lot more like a series of pivots, risks, and moments you can’t predict. And sometimes the bravest move… is stepping away from the thing that once defined you. This episode is about those moments — and what happens when you follow them. Today I sit down with Sahar Farooqi (CEO and founder of Legalencia), a well-known face on LinkedIn who spent 15 years as a barrister before moving into legal transformat...

Dec 21, 202548 min

I Didn't Want To Wait 10 Years To Earn $1.2M So I Quit Law with Tas Fateh

Credibility doesn’t come from your credentials. It comes from how you show up. Most lawyers still believe their degrees and titles speak for themselves. But clients don’t buy credentials, they buy clarity, confidence, and connection. And that starts with visibility. The right kind. In this episode, I’m joined by Tasleem Ahmad Fateh, founder of the LinkedIn Creators Club and the Robinhood Course — a free program helping professionals build influence and trust through authentic content. Known as t...

Dec 14, 202551 min

The Hidden Consequences of Salary Secrecy in Law with Jono Randell-Nash & Carla Hoppe

Most lawyers can give advice on six-figure deals. But many can’t say, with confidence, how much they actually earn. Silence around money isn’t just awkward — it’s expensive. And for many lawyers, it’s keeping them financially stuck. Today’s episode digs into a quiet cultural norm in the legal profession that shapes careers, mental health, and long-term financial stability: salary secrecy. I’m joined by Jono Randell-Nash, ex-lawyer turned independent financial advisor for lawyers, and Carla Hoppe...

Dec 07, 202512 min

What It Really Means to Evolve as a Modern Lawyer

Most lawyers wait for the “right time” to take a leap. But what if that moment never comes? The legal world is changing faster than ever and those who redefine success, rather than chase security, are the ones shaping its future. From fear of failure to the rise of AI, this episode dives into what it really means to evolve as a modern lawyer. Ari Mike Varjabedian, founder of E-Legal Councel, a tech-driven law firm built for the remote era and one of the first to live the digital nomad lawyer lif...

Nov 12, 202523 min

Behind Closed Doors: How Big Law Is Really Handling AI with Sonia Cisse

Most law firms say they’re “exploring AI.” At Linklaters, they’re living it. Resistance is real, but so is the momentum. Because the lawyers who embrace change won’t just survive the AI era, they’ll define it. In this episode, I’m joined by Sonia Cisse, Partner and Head of AI & Technology at Paris office, Linklaters, one of the world’s leading international law firms. Sonia is helping shape how one of the biggest names in law integrates artificial intelligence, from internal adoption to cult...

Oct 29, 202533 min

What You Wear Can Make or Break Your Law Career with Estelle Winsett

What you wear isn’t just fashion, it’s strategy. In law, perception shapes power. And for women lawyers, style can be the silent language of authority. So what if your wardrobe could build confidence, and your brand? Today, we're speaking to Estelle Winsett, a former lawyer turned personal stylist for women attorneys. After seven years in practice, she pivoted from legal briefs to wardrobe briefs helping women in law dress with purpose, power, and presence. Today, she runs a full-time styling bu...

Oct 22, 202530 min

Legal Tech Talk Round-Up 2025: The Conversations Shaping the Industry

I spent two days on the ground at Legal Tech Talk London, speaking to the people shaping the future of law, from AI innovators to legal ops leaders. And what I heard? Surprising. Honest. Game-changing. In this episode, I'm talking with: Richard Macklin, ex-Global Vice Chair for Dentons and now, world-class coach for leaders at the Alexander Partnership and on the training committee for the City of London Law Society. Lorraine Lee, fractional Chief Privacy Officer, General Counsel and Executive C...

Oct 15, 202553 min

Hosting The Biggest Legal Tech Event in Europe with Merlin Beyts (Mini Legal Tech Series)

I spent two days on the ground at Legal Tech Talk London, speaking to the people shaping the future of law, from AI innovators to legal ops leaders. And what I heard? Surprising. Honest. Game-changing. Over the next few weeks, I’ll be sharing the big insights, bold ideas, and behind-the-scenes realities that every legal professional needs to hear. In this episode, I'm talking with Merlin Beyts, Content Director at Legal Tech Talk London. --- FREE access to my How to Become Law Firms' Go-To Legal...

Oct 10, 20259 min

My Message to Every Lawyer Right Now: Solo Episode

The Legal Industry Is Changing Faster Than Ever Most law firms think the “AI revolution” is coming someday. But it’s already here and it’s reshaping everything from hiring to billing models. The question now isn’t if lawyers will adapt. It’s how fast and who will get left behind. In this episode, I dive into the massive transformations happening in law right now from junior lawyers quitting in record numbers to legal departments being replaced by automation. You’ll hear how: AI is reshaping the ...

Oct 08, 202519 min

How To Save Time & Money on Patent Litigation with Caleb Harris (Legal Tech Talk Mini Series)

I spent two days on the ground at Legal Tech Talk London, speaking to the people shaping the future of law, from AI innovators to legal ops leaders. And what I heard? Surprising. Honest. Game-changing. Over the next few weeks, I’ll be sharing the big insights, bold ideas, and behind-the-scenes realities that every legal professional needs to hear. In this episode, I'm talking with Caleb Harris,Founder, CEO at &AI • AI for Patent Litigation --- FREE access to my How to Become Law Firms' Go-To...

Oct 03, 20256 min

LinkedIn Masterclass for Lawyers: Speak Your Clients’ Language & Build Trust with Alana Sparrow

Too many law firms are still guessing what their clients actually care about. They talk about themselves. Their credentials. Their features. But not their clients’ real fears, needs, or goals. And in law, where trust is everything, that’s a costly mistake. In this episode, I'm sitting down with Alana Sparrow, Chief Branding Officer and Co-Founder of The Foundry for Art Design + Culture, a creative agency that helps businesses build bold, human brands that actually connect. We dive into why most ...

Oct 01, 202530 min

Behind the Scenes At Legal Tech Talk with Jono Randell-Nash (Legal Tech Talk Mini Series)

I spent two days on the ground at Legal Tech Talk London, speaking to the people shaping the future of law, from AI innovators to legal ops leaders. And what I heard? Surprising. Honest. Game-changing. Over the next few weeks, I’ll be sharing the big insights, bold ideas, and behind-the-scenes realities that every legal professional needs to hear. In this episode, I'm talking with Jono Randell-Nash, ex-lawyer turned independent financial advisor specializing in the legal profession. --- FREE acc...

Sep 26, 20254 min

Announcing The Global AI Skills Summit for Lawyers with Sophie Best

3 wks ago, we announced something huge Now, 1054 lawyers are signed up... ..To the Global AI Skills Summit for Lawyers We (myself and Sophie Best) wanted to create a free training space for lawyers to learn about how to leverage AI in their every day work. Because I saw so many confused & worried about their careers. Since announcing the skills summit, I've had an incredible response that has completely shocked me. - Lawyers thanking me for putting this together - Top experts reaching out to...

Sep 24, 202516 min

Future-Proof Your Career in Law: Real Stories from Lawyers Embracing the Future

The lawyers who win in the next decade won’t be the smartest in the room. They’ll be the ones who adapt first. AI is shaking up law at its core, stripping away routine work and forcing us to double down on what makes us human. This is your chance to future-proof your career, or risk being left behind. In this series of mini conversations, we explore how lawyers can turn disruption into opportunity, and why the ones who embrace change will define the future of law. Rich Fox Today I’m joined by Ri...

Sep 23, 202520 min

Instead Of Worrying About AI Taking Your Job, Do This... with Dharshi Hardina (Legal Tech Talk Mini Series)

I spent two days on the ground at Legal Tech Talk London, speaking to the people shaping the future of law, from AI innovators to legal ops leaders. And what I heard? Surprising. Honest. Game-changing. Over the next few weeks, I’ll be sharing the big insights, bold ideas, and behind-the-scenes realities that every legal professional needs to hear. In this episode, I'm speaking with Dharshi Harindra, Fractional General Counsel, Executive Coach to Legal Leaders, and host of Unbiased Podcast. --- P...

Sep 19, 20257 min

Unregulated AI Lawyers: A Ticking Time Bomb? with Philip Young

Everyone’s talking about the world’s first AI law firm but I wanted to go deeper. So I’ve created an exclusive series to go beyond the buzz with founder of Garfield Law, Philip Young. In this episode, we dig into the tension between regulation and innovation, when does it protect us, and when does it hold us back? And what does good regulation actually look like in a world driven by AI? A landmark moment for the legal industry: The Solicitors Regulatory Authority has officially authorised Garfie...

Sep 16, 202512 min

The Biggest Mistake Law Firms Make with Mahwash Ali (Legal Tech Talk Mini Series)

I spent two days on the ground at Legal Tech Talk London, speaking to the people shaping the future of law, from AI innovators to legal ops leaders. And what I heard? Surprising. Honest. Game-changing. Over the next few weeks, I’ll be sharing the big insights, bold ideas, and behind-the-scenes realities that every legal professional needs to hear. In this episode, I'm speaking with Mahwash Ali, procurement expert for law firms. She helps law firms stop overpaying suppliers and start saving on su...

Sep 12, 20254 min

The Untold Truth About Becoming Partner in Law

Every associate is told the same story: work hard, keep your head down, and partnership will come. But the truth is, that story is often a myth. Partnership isn’t a straight path. It’s political, unpredictable, and sometimes out of reach. So how do you really know if you’re on track? In this episode, we pull back the curtain on what really happens when law firms decide who makes a partner. Brandon Rankin & Helen Pamely Listen to the full episode here: https://open.spotify.com/episode/4y0Bme1...

Sep 09, 202519 min

Goodbye the Billable Hour? With Thomas Bueler-Faudree (Legal Tech Talk Mini Series)

I spent two days on the ground at Legal Tech Talk London, speaking to the people shaping the future of law, from AI innovators to legal ops leaders. And what I heard? Surprising. Honest. Game-changing. Over the next few weeks, I’ll be sharing the big insights, bold ideas, and behind-the-scenes realities that every legal professional needs to hear. In this episode, I'm speaking with Thomas Bueler-Faudree, founder of August, the first AI legal assistant that can research, draft and revise autonomo...

Sep 05, 20255 min

Most Played Episode: Are GenZ Underestimated in Law?

Many people still see Gen Z as “lazy” or “entitled.” What if the generation everyone underestimates is actually the one reshaping the future of law? In this episode, I’m joined by Natalie Thomas, Legal Business Analyst at Perkins Coie. From Oxford University to Tesco, and now helping launch the London office of a US law firm, her journey proves there’s no single path into law. We talk about how Gen Z challenges hierarchy, embraces efficiency, and collaborates differently and why those skills mig...

Sep 02, 202520 min

Behind the Curtain: The AI Conversations Lawyers Don’t Know About

The future of law isn’t just about AI. Or automation. Or the next big legal tech startup. It’s about pressure. Possibility. And the choices we make before the industry makes them for us. In this episode, I’m bringing you conversations with the people rethinking what legal practice will look like when AI is no longer a “future” problem, it’s the present. Kyle Torrington Kyle, co-founder of Loft Legal and AirCounsel, has seen entire workflows shrink from hours to minutes. Listen to the full episod...

Aug 26, 202526 min

Why You Should Post on LinkedIn As A Lawyer with Lorraine Lee (Legal Tech Talk Mini Series)

I spent two days on the ground at Legal Tech Talk London, speaking to the people shaping the future of law, from AI innovators to legal ops leaders. And what I heard? Surprising. Honest. Game-changing. Over the next few weeks, I’ll be sharing the big insights, bold ideas, and behind-the-scenes realities that every legal professional needs to hear. In this episode, I'm speaking with Lorraine Lee, fractional Chief Privacy Officer, General Counsel and Executive Coach. --- I've wasted hours drafting...

Aug 22, 20257 min
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