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$13M But Zero Cash: Why Net Worth Is a Lie

Apr 15, 202551 minEp. 48
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Mike Brown built an oil & gas empire, scaled his net worth to nearly $20 million, but ended up cash poor, losing $1.8M in a failed bet, and borrowing money from his wife to pay taxes. Now, he’s rebuilt his fortune, redefined what wealth really means, and is living a life designed around freedom, not just big numbers.

Here’s what we talk about:

  • How Mike went from $2K in his bank account to making millions in oil & gas deals
  • The "gold rush" mentality that led him to reinvest everything and regret it
  • Why he thought $100M was the magic number (it wasn’t)
  • The dangers of illiquid assets and chasing wealth at all costs
  • Losing $1.8M on a distressed e-commerce acquisition 
  • How divorce and bad bets forced a complete financial rethink
  • Mike’s personal framework for financial freedom (12 months of liquidity, 5–7 years cash cushion, escape velocity)
  • Why liquidity and cash flow > net worth
  • His full portfolio breakdown today: fixed income, oil & gas, index funds, and zero angel investing
  • The mindset shift: from "grow at all costs" to "invest for safety and joy"
  • What it really feels like to sell your Lamborghini and love it
  • How he's building a life he never wants to retire from — and helping other founders do the same

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Chapters:
(00:00) Introduction to Mike Brown's Financial Journey
(02:36) Mike's Early Life and Money Lessons
(05:07) Navy to Entrepreneurship: The Million Dollar Deal
(07:24) The Gold Rush: Rapid Wealth Accumulation
(16:54) The Downfall: Divorce and Financial Struggles
(19:23) The E-commerce Disaster: Losing It All
(22:28) Rebuilding and Relying on Support
(24:55) Rebuilding with Cash Flow
(25:42) Lessons from Failure
(27:02) Current Portfolio Strategy
(28:41) Cash Flow and Investments
(31:11) Financial Freedom Levels
(33:53) Personal Monthly Burn and Joy
(36:17) Redefining Wealth and Happiness
(42:12) The Irony of Wealth
(47:24) Final Takeaways and Community

This podcast is a ridiculous concept: high-net-worth people reveal their personal finances.
Inspired by real conversations happening in the Hampton community.

Your Host: Harry Morton

  • Founder of Lower Street, a podcast production company helping brands launch and grow top-tier podcasts.
  • Co-parents a cow named Eliza.

 

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