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Money on the Left

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Money on the Left is a monthly, interdisciplinary podcast that reclaims money’s public powers for intersectional politics. Staging critical conversations with leading historians, theorists, organizers, and activists, the show draws upon Modern Monetary Theory and constitutional approaches to money to advance new forms of left critique and practice. It is hosted by William Saas and Scott Ferguson and presented in partnership with Monthly Review magazine. Check out our website: https://moneyontheleft.org Follow us on Bluesky 
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Episodes

Superstructure: Critique after Bernie

Dipping into the archive, Money on the Left presents the very first episode of the Superstructure podcast. Framed by a cold open from Chapo Trap House's recent Bernie retrospective, hosts Will Beaman and Maxximilian Seijo inaugurate the Superstructure project with a discussion of the failures of a reified left wing imagination. To chart a path forward for an MMT-informed leftist praxis, they critique reductive castigations of spectacle, damaging affirmations of scarcity and zero-sum politics as ...

Sep 26, 202059 min

Superstructure: Red Scared (with @moltopopulare)

Will, Naty and Maxx are joined by @moltopopulare to critique the hopeless aesthetic imagination of the Red Scare podcast and related films by Red Scare cohost Dasha Nekrasova.

Sep 17, 20201 hr 26 min

Money on the Left Presents: Superstructure

Money on the Left is thrilled to introduce the latest project by our growing collective over at the Modern Money Network Humanities Division: Superstructure. Superstructure is a new podcast hosted by Will Beaman, Natalie Smith, and Money on the Left ’s own Maxx Seijo. Debuting in late Spring 2020 via Soundcloud and other platforms, Superstructure builds on the sensibility Money on the Left has made legible, but it does so through a daring new model of left podcasting which combines high-octane c...

Sep 08, 202050 min

Resisting Predatory Finance with Raúl Carrillo (Transcript)

Transcript: https://mronline.org/2020/09/02/resisting-predatory-finance-with-raul-carrillo/ Raúl Carrillo, organizer for economic justice and scholar of law, race, and money, joins Money on the Left to explore the promise of the public money framework for advancing antiracist, anti-imperialist, and democratic politics across the world. We discuss how the public money or MMT perspective shapes his work as an attorney fighting against predatory finance and for an international, rights-based approa...

Sep 02, 20203 min

Money, Music & Method with Alex Williams

Economist, musician & Money on the Left audio engineer, Alex Williams, joins the podcast to discuss money, music and method in light of Modern Monetary Theory and heterodox economics. At the outset, we chat about methodology and the riddles of “administrative capacity” that drive so much of Williams’ work. Next, Williams guides us through his proposal for arts and culture provisioning under a federal Job Guarantee by way of a critique of the anti-money, laissez-faire DIY music scene in which...

Jul 15, 20201 hr 16 min

Place, Participation & #Unis4All with Benjamin Wilson

Economist Benjamin Wilson joins Money on the Left to discuss heterodox approaches to place, participation, and the politics of university finance. Associate professor of economics at SUNY Cortland, Wilson received his interdisciplinary Ph.D. from University of Missouri, Kansas City (UMKC), where he took courses with some of the leading lights of heterodox economic theory, including Stephanie Kelton, Mathew Forstater, and Fred Lee. In both his research and his pedagogy, Ben combines his commitmen...

Jun 19, 20201 hr 21 min

Coordination Beyond the Corporation with Sanjukta Paul

In this episode, Maxx and Scott speak with legal scholar Sanjukta Paul about imagining alternative and more just forms of economic association in ways that denaturalize the 20th-century monopolistic firm. The key, Paul argues, is to reveal and contest the public “coordination rights” that legally structure all economic activity. Sanjukta Paul is Assistant Professor of Law at Wayne State University. Her current research and writing involves the intersection of antitrust law and labor policy. She ...

May 18, 20201 hr 16 min

#MintTheCoin & COVID Relief with the Modern Money Network

Rohan Grey and Nathan Tankus join Money on the Left to discuss the flurry of debate about Modern Monetary Theory (MMT) arising out of the Coronavirus crisis. We focus, in particular, on the Modern Money Network’s multi-pronged efforts to illuminate and remedy the resulting economic devastation. At the center of our conversation is Rohan’s contribution to Rep. Rashida Tlaib’s “Automatic BOOST Act.” Known by the popular hashtag #MintTheCoin, Tlaib’s proposal calls on the U.S. Treasury to mint two ...

Apr 10, 20201 hr 24 min

Building Capacity with Money on the Left

This month’s Money on the Left episode departs from the show’s regular interview format to reflect on the past, present and future of the Money on the Left project as a whole. We focus, in particular, on a recent special scholarly journal issue dedicated to Money on the Left , which was published by Liminalities: A Journal of Performance Studies and guest-edited by our friend Andrés Bernal . The issue joins archival text, audio and video with fresh essays about institution building, history, and...

Mar 11, 20201 hr 38 min

From Liberation Theology to Public Money Creation with Delman Coates

Reverend Dr. Delman Coates joins Money on the Left to discuss why the politics of public money creation are essential for social and spiritual liberation. Dr. Coates holds a Master’s in Divinity from Harvard and a Ph.D. in New Testament & Early Christianity from Columbia University. He currently serves as Senior Pastor at Mount Ennon Baptist church in Clinton, Maryland, and is founder of OUR MONEY, an organization fighting to restore democratic control over public money. In this episode, we ...

Feb 16, 20201 hr

Covering the Paradigm Crisis with Alexandra Scaggs

Alexandra Scaggs joins Money on the Left to discuss her experience covering the ongoing paradigm crisis in mainstream economics, central banking and finance--and why leftists should be paying close attention. Alexandra is presently a senior writer at Barron’s, where she covers markets and fixed income. Giving credit to Modern Monetary Theory (MMT) for turning her toward left politics, Alexandra has proven an important contributor to the MMT project through her critical financial journalism and o...

Jan 15, 20201 hr 16 min

Neoclassical Marxism (Christmas Special) with @NMarxism

This December, we bring you a special Christmas episode of our program, featuring the enigmatic operator behind the increasingly popular Twitter account known as “Neoclassical Marxism,” or @NMarxism. @NMarxism is a deeply satirical Twitter project, which deploys Modern Monetary Theory and some very dark humor to critique the neoclassical economics and neoliberal assumptions that unconsciously organize a lot of present leftist discourse. Our mystery guest agreed to speak with us out of character,...

Dec 15, 20191 hr 24 min

MMT & the Art of Social Practice with Vienne Chan (Live)

In this special live episode of Money on the Left , artist and researcher Vienne Chan joins us to talk art, politics, and money—and how Modern Monetary Theory (MMT) reconfigures the boundaries between all three. Recorded at the Third Annual International Conference on Modern Monetary Theory held at Stony Brook University, our conversation focuses specifically on Vienne’s recent efforts to combine MMT principles with diagrammatic visual design to fundamentally reimagine how to build and sustain d...

Nov 15, 201955 min

No Depression in Heaven with Alison Collis Greene

In this episode of Money on the Left , we speak with historian Alison Collis Greene about her book No Depression in Heaven with an eye toward contemporary debates around the Green New Deal. Subtitled The Great Depression, the New Deal, and the Transformation of Religion in the Delta , Greene's book critiques what she calls the “myth of the redemptive depression” which, particularly in the American south, eroded the legacy of the original New Deal by affirming regressive fantasies of self-help an...

Oct 15, 20191 hr 11 min

Money Politics before the New Deal with Jakob Feinig

Jakob Feinig, assistant professor of human development at Binghamton University, joins us to discuss the history of political organizing and activism around money in the United States, from the pre-Revolutionary period to the New Deal era. Characterized alternately by periods of widespread “silencing” and mass mobilization, the history of money politics that Feinig documents in his research has much to tell us about the present and future of the modern money movement. For more about the history ...

Aug 30, 20191 hr 13 min

The Modern Money Movement with Andrés Bernal

We are joined by Andrés Bernal, policy advisor to Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez and doctoral student at the New School for Public Engagement, Division of Policy Management and Environment. We speak with Bernal about his history with political organizing and the critical role he has come to play in the modern money movement, including the struggle for a Green New Deal. He also sketches out his dissertation project, which focuses on the Green New Deal as a site of collective action, political communica...

Aug 15, 20191 hr 16 min

Inflation & the Politics of Pricing w/ Nathan Tankus

In this episode, we talk with Nathan Tankus, Research Director of the Modern Money Network, and Research Fellow at the Clarke Business Law Institute at Cornell Law School. Nathan recently co-authored an opinion piece in the Financial Times with Scott Fullwiler and former MoL guest Rohan Gray about MMT’s position on the causes of inflation Link to the piece: https://ftalphaville.ft.com/2019/03/01/1551434402000/An-MMT-response-on-what-causes-inflation/ In the conversation, we ask Nathan to expand ...

Jun 19, 20191 hr 37 min

Colored Property & State Debt w/ David Freund

On this episode, we talk with David Freund, associate professor of history at the University of Maryland. David is the author of Colored Property: State Policy and White Racial Politics in Suburban America , an award-winning book that tracks how the language of racial exclusion was re-coded in terms of markets, property, and citizenship in the post-World War II era. Throughout the conversation, David speaks to his research on the history of public policy and economic ideology in the United State...

May 16, 20191 hr 3 min

Imagining the Green New Deal w/ AOC advisor Robert Hockett

In this episode, we speak with Robert Hockett, Edward Cornell Professor of Law at Cornell Law School. At Cornell, Hockett teaches and writes about organizational, financial, and monetary law and economics. He’s also worked as a fellow for the Century Foundation and as a consultant to a number of international financial institutions and state legislatures. We talk with Bob about his role in crafting the Green New Deal Resolution, his conception of finance as a franchise, and his experience as an ...

Apr 17, 20191 hr 29 min

Confronting Monetary Imperialism in Francophone Africa w/ Ndongo Samba Sylla

Ndongo Samba Sylla is a Senegalese development economist and Research and Programme manager at the West Africa office of the Rosa Luxemburg Foundation. Sylla is also the author of many articles and three books, including the recently published L’Arme Invisible de la Francafrique, or “The Invisible Weapon of Franco-African Imperialism .” In that book, Sylla and coauthor Fanny Pigeaud lay out a comprehensive case against the CFA Franc, a neocolonial currency union that presently constrains the soc...

Mar 15, 20191 hr 36 min

Myth of the Medieval Jewish Moneylender with Julie Mell

On this episode, we talk to Julie Mell, an associate professor of history at North Carolina State University and author of the two volume book, The Myth of the Medieval Jewish Moneylender . In The Myth of the Medieval Jewish Moneylender, Mell marshals previously untapped primary sources to upend the common historical narrative regarding the role of Jewish moneylenders in the development of the modern economy. On Mell’s reading, the prevailing understanding of the medieval Jewish moneylender--com...

Feb 15, 20191 hr 16 min

Direct Job Creation in America w/ Steven Attewell

In this episode, we're joined by Steven Attewell, Adjunct Professor of Public Policy at the City University of New York’s School of Labor and Urban Studies. His recent book, People Must Live By Work (University of Pennsylvania Press), examines the history of direct job creation programs from the depths of the Great Depression and debates over the Employment Act of 1946 to the War on Poverty and the Humphrey-Hawkins Act of 1978. Link to the book: http://www.upenn.edu/pennpress/book/15862.html Lin...

Jan 17, 20191 hr 11 min

Money & Power w/ Jamee Moudud

In this episode, we’re joined by Jamee Moudud. A professor of economics at Sarah Lawrence College, Jamee draws on the tradition of critical legal studies to extend the constitutional theory of money to new historical and international contexts. He currently serves on the board of the Association for the Promotion of Political Economy and the Law. He is also associate editor for the Review of Keynesian Economics. You can check out some of his recent work, including a timely essay on tariffs and f...

Dec 18, 20181 hr 1 min

Digital Money Beyond Blockchain w/ Rohan Grey

In this episode, we’re joined by Rohan Grey, President of the Modern Money Network, Director of the National Jobs for All Coalition, Research Fellow at the Global Institute for Sustainable Prosperity, and JSD student at Cornell Law school. Our conversation is dedicated to Rohan’s current work on the political, economic, and cultural implications of money’s digital future. Rohan's report on digital fiat money: https://bit.ly/2K4els2 Twitter: @rohangrey Link to our Patreon: www.patreon.com/MoLsupe...

Nov 14, 20181 hr 19 min

Poor People's Campaign - June 23, 2018

In this special episode, we offer a montage of interviews, songs, and speeches recorded during the Poor People’s Campaign’s June 23 rally on the National Mall and march on the US Capitol. To learn more about the 21st Century Poor People’s Campaign, visit www.poorpeoplescampaign.org . Link to our Patreon: www.patreon.com/MoLsuperstructure...

Oct 26, 201853 min

Ballerinas on the Dole w/ Colleen Hooper

We talk with Colleen Hooper, assistant professor of dance at Point Park University. Colleen researches the history of public funding for arts programs in the United States from the New Deal through the post War era. Her 2017 article in the Dance Research Journal , titled “Ballerinas on the Dole: Dance and the Comprehensive Employment Training Act (CETA), 1974-1982,” is the subject of most of our conversation. Link to the article: https://goo.gl/9Sztyn Link to our Patreon: www.patreon.com/MoLsupe...

Oct 08, 20181 hr 8 min

Gender, Labor, & Law w/ Democratic Socialist Emma Caterine

In this episode, we speak with Emma Caterine, a law graduate and writer with more than a decade of experience working within economic justice, feminist, LGBTQ, and racial justice movements. We talk Democratic Socialists of America, MMT, the advantages of a federal jobs guarantee over a universal basic income, the place for sex work in a jobs guarantee program. Emma's Medium page: https://medium.com/@EmmaCaterine Heads up: The Second International Conference for Modern Monetary Theory is set to t...

Sep 08, 20181 hr 8 min

Money as a Constitutional Project w/ Christine Desan

We are joined by Christine Desan, Leo Goettlieb professor of law at Harvard Law School to discuss her excellent book, Making Money: Coin, Currency, and the Coming of Capitalism. Desan argues that money is a constitutional project, countering the dubious “commodity” theory common to contemporary economic and legal orthodoxies. Desan develops her constitutional theory of money through rigorous historical examinations of money’s evolution, from medieval Anglo-Saxon communities to early-modern Engla...

Aug 06, 20181 hr 18 min

The New Postcolonial Economics w/ Fadhel Kaboub

Scott and Max are joined by Fadhel Kaboub, associate professor of economics at Denison University and President of the Global Institute for Sustainable Prosperity: http://www.global-isp.org Fadhel outlines a new critical approach to postcolonial political economy, arguing that re-gaining financial sovereignty is a crucial next step for postcolonial nations hoping to achieve social, economic, and environmental justice. We talk specifically and at length about the CFA franc currency union, a syste...

Jul 07, 20181 hr 14 min
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