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mo facts with Adam curry for April 8 2020 for episode number 98. This is one of three more episodes to go. That's right, we're back. I'm Adam curry coming to you from the heart of the Texas Hill Country and time once again, to spin the Wheel of topics from here to Northern Virginia. Please say hello to my friend on the other end, the one and only Mr. Moe facts. I know Adam. Mo I am good. Once again. We have
beaten the enemy and we're on the air. The people should know that whenever we start the show, I think every single time there's some kind of weird technical bug that pops up.

It's unexplainable. Yeah,

well, it is. And it isn't or is it? Right? Everything good brother.

Other than a snake in the chimney and bear in the bird.

Snake in the chimney? Yeah. Oh, man. Now where you'd like to fire or to just know that? Oh,

well,

what happened?

I heard him in the ceiling. Yeah. Look for him. Oh, no. Couldn't find him. So then I did all the procedures and to get everything. Any possible entry point. And two days later, he was laying in the basement floor. Dead like a no like a three foot long black snake.

Oh, man. Yeah.

Two nights ago was a bear in the birdfeeder. Right right next to the house just like

hey, that's what that's. That's living in the country, man. I love it. Excellent. Well, it's time once again for Moe facts with Adam curry. I'm very excited that we're here to do it for you again and let's get it rolling. Let's find out what the topic is going to be as we roll that we have a topics round around it goes where it stops. Nobody knows except for Moe of course, because he is prepared another doozy for I'm sure the topic of episode 98 is
will come out of Negro.

Then Yankees gonna come out of the Negro know

that he is going to come out of Negro. Okay, this is gonna be a show about race, racial classification confusion.
¶ Racial Classification Confusion
But it's due to the recent Drake and Kendrick Lamar be going online?

I gotta tell you, yeah, I saw this thing coming. And and, and we had already agreed we're going to we're going to record today. And I was just like, oh, Lord, let let Mo Mo do something with this. Because this is I mean, this is so unhinged off the hook. I don't I mean, I understand I don't understand it. And it's like a distraction. But is it like we need mo stat is what I was thinking?

Well, if you want to learn hear about the hip hop side of it, go back and listen to hip hip, right and hop, the two shows that we did on hip hop. What I'm seeing here is the racial classification confusion that was brought up, which is draped black. Is the allowed to be black. Yeah. And people are saying like, Well, are you being color as Kendrick Lamar being color or color risk? Right? I'm not going to make it about them. Because I'm sure people are overdone with the beef beef
leftovers. What this is going to talk about is the aspect of being racially mixed. Why that is the issue. Why that causes confusion? I want to lay it out there first. I don't think that's a very good idea to have racially mixed children in the system of white supremacy. If that system didn't exist, it wouldn't matter. But what it does is causes confusion.
Because where the children are obligated to be. See, that's where the real problem and there's this obligation of are you allowed to be this or you're not all we already know if you're a person of color. colored person as I like to say, or non white person isn't? isn't really fully identifies me as you're never going to be allowed to be white. So that's off the table. And then when you try to go be black, in your screws,
you're you're never going to be black enough. And it's not exclusive just to race because I've experienced this, which is my family on my mom and dad sigh right? I mean, when you wish your mom's family you're too much like your dad's family, right? We read your dad's family to like him. So this is so I just want to dig into this subject because it's confusing, literally

isn't isn't the real problem. The Drake's a Canadian? I mean, isn't that his biggest offense really?

Well, that's another part of it. It's the it's that one he's not a Das, as he is by lineage from his father, right, where he didn't grow up with that culture. And then he comes in and in like a identifies with the what I believe is some of the worst parts of the culture. And I can I get it because he's trying to fit in. So you kind of got to overdo it to fit in
overcompensate. And we've talked about this for four years of understanding a das people circling their wagons, because they feel like all the outsiders are being locked into our culture, which we don't have a culture of notice going, Oh, this episode is gonna piss everybody off. This is why I waited to do this. Near

the near the end of the run. All right.

This is gonna be the least pissed off, you're gonna be I'll do last three episodes. So I mean,

I hear you're ramping up ramping up, alright. Because

it's triggering. It literally is triggering this that you're not black enough. You know, you're never be white. But that's the system that's out. We I don't make the rules. Honestly, I think it's stupid. I think race, the whole conversation, we know is a construct is created. And we just got to figure out why it's silly. Um, but it's there. It's a real, it's a real thing. So I just want to lay that out what the show's gonna be about and we'll weave in and not have that
conversation to point out. That's why that's the issue, but we're not gonna make it that's not gonna be the center of the of the what we talked about today.
¶ In the beginning...

Okay, um, when did that make sense? Yeah, I'm hanging it. So

we have to start at the beginning, where interracial marriages became legalized in mass in Virginia,
on July 11 1958, and 2am, a county sheriff into the home of Virginia couple, Richard and Mildred Loving, forced them out of their bed and placed them under arrest their crime, interracial marriage. This is the story of Loving versus Virginia and the landmark civil rights decision that was set an important precedent for marriage rights in America. Richard, who was white, and Mildred, who was black and Native American, spent
the early morning hours of July 11. In jail, they were tried and found guilty of violating Virginia's racial Integrity Act of 1924, a series of laws that made race mixing illegal. The Lovings were then given an ultimatum, spin one year in prison, or leave the state of Virginia for 25 years. frightened and unaware of their legal options, they moved to Washington DC, where their marriage was they go, Wow,

the racial Integrity Act,

which is why I said you can't be white classified as white. If you have any black blood,

and this is coded in the law, is that is this still a thing? Is that ever been overturned? Well, this

this this case, eventually overturned that. But in the minds of people, it's never been eliminated, because the system hasn't really been a hit. Right? We look at each other and I think he's black, or I think he's white, or he or he's not all the way black or, you know, is he passing this kind of thing? So the even the words racial integrity,

the integrity word is kind of a problem there. Right?

Because it's like it's a it's a litmus test. But this is our purity test. But just

going back on what I'm what we've learned in the past 97 episodes, wasn't it also Virginia that had the didn't they have the Sterilization Act?

Yeah, I mean, a lot of states had that. Yeah.

Okay. But yeah, I just remembered specifically from Virginia, yeah, in

we're gonna say Virginia is unique in this subject. And let's just say living here is probably one of the most racially the highest ratio of interracial marriage and procreation probably in the United States. There's it was a culture shock to me, coming from North Carolina, how prevalent it is here,

but that's just worth it. just putting a little checkmark. So, you know, the state that has all of that had the has these laws had these laws, that it actually created the opposite of the of the intended effect. Yeah,

and we're gonna get as we progress, it makes sense. Why it may be that way. But let's go ahead and get into the second part is clip, they
raised their three children in the nation's capital financially strapped in isolated from friends and family. Five years later, they returned to Virginia to visit Mildred relatives but were arrested for a second time for traveling together. Inspired by the burgeoning civil rights movement, Mildred decided to fight back. So in 1963, she wrote a letter to US Attorney General Robert F. Kennedy,
asking for his advice. Kennedy referred the Levine's to the American Civil Liberties Union, who assign their case to two young lawyers named Bernard Cohen and Phillip Hirsch cop. Cohen and Hirsch cop took their appeal all the way to the Supreme Court, arguing that Virginia's anti miscegenation laws violated the equal protection clause of the 14th Amendment, which guaranteed African Americans citizenship
and all its privileges. The broad and sweeping language of the amendment, they argued, make no mention of interracial marriage and thus guaranteed equal protection of a human beings right to marry. Alright.

So they go up to DC, which I find it strange, just a few maybe I don't know, like maybe a couple of hours up the road to DC from Virginia, where they were at. It's legal there. For them to be there. They may come back to Virginia for a visit. Five years later, and the cops know where they're at, at 2am. The kicking the door to arrest them. This gives me vibes of down in Arkansas, in the schools, on the integrated schools and also brown the Board of Education. How this case was picked.

Oh, yeah, that was the setup, obviously.

Right? Because it's like you don't just write and get it. I'm saying Robert F. Kennedy to take on your case. And hand you off to ACLU. Yeah, it's Banagher. Cohen and Philip Hitchcock here. Yeah.

They were ready. There. Were people ready for this to happen.

Right, which the bigger issue was state rights? Yes, it was the it was the backdoor into the federal government telling states how they can run themselves under the cover of civil rights, which this is when we opened. We opened the door everybody else comes running through.

Yeah, sorry. I'm just gonna open the door. Closing

the door. So that's the door opening. Let's go ahead and get into the final part of this three part clip. Attorneys
from the state of Virginia argued that the state's rights should be prioritized over federal laws. But the argument didn't hold up. On June 12 1967. The Court unanimously struck down the Virginia marriage ban and overturn the Levine's conviction. The court ruling reverberated across America in validating anti miscegenation laws, not only in Virginia, but in 16 Other states that held them as well. After winning their case, the Lovings were finally free to do what
they wanted to do all along. They lived quietly in Virginia as husband and wife until Richard's death in 1975. Loving versus Virginia would inspire gay marriage advocates during your own Supreme Court victory. Later, for example, 2003 is Lawrence vs. Texas decision ruled that a Texas statute criminalizing sexual activity between members of the same sex was unconstitutional. The Supreme Court would directly cite loving in two subsequent landmark cases, that paves the way for same sex marriage.

Okay, so what I'm hearing you say, I may be wrong and I'm hearing you say is this was a setup to move to the next phase.

It's always a setup for something bigger. Okay, there's no payoff in it. Other than access to sexual access to the opposite race, there was no you know, we don't like separate but equal. For instance, I'm going to ask for separate but equal we got integration of schools. Yeah. So what's it this is a nothing burger in the standpoint of actually dismantling the system of wringing about, you know, actual justice.

Understood? Yeah.

So I met I'm just letting it in. But this is the beginning of legal and interracial marriage, you know, on a wide scale. So I just wanted to lay that out now, then this is a rehashing of history. I found a report from 1970 67 Excuse me, actually speaking to the Lovings. So if you want to get into clip number five, be sure
to learn who you want to is alright. Thanks.
¶ Rehashing
God given right I think Eldred, loving married The Boy Next Door Richard loving, Richard loving as a construction worker, Mildred Loving the daughter of a sharecropper. They were born and raised in Caroline County, Virginia, where Wigan colored people seem unaware of the racial prejudice that exists in much of the country. The Lovings didn't know that it was a crime for white person to marry Negro in Virginia. They found out the hard way. But I didn't realize how bad it was until we got full
of love themselves. They didn't expect to find hate and others in their homes swarms with children their own three as well as neighborhood friends. We enjoy the warmth here. Okay,

so this is why I'm speaking about Virginia. Here, Virginia, right. So last spring, even in 67, that I didn't even know it was a law. You're saying Yeah, I hear you. I hear and they were neighbors. So they even that part of it. Um, so this this case, is this is very strange to me. How they push this really is a stepping

stone case. And

notice the makeup of the genders, white man with quote unquote, black female. It wouldn't have been the other way around.

Now, she wasn't even just she was also part Native Indian, Native American
¶ Culturist

identified as Native American now I'm not gonna go Oh, damn, Callaway. Oh, you possibly be?

Okay. Well,

some people believe it. Some black people are native to North America. I believe that. This is my personal belief. I believe we're made up of three groups of people, people from Africa people that wasn't natural here that were heavily melanated people out of Europe that were heavily male melanated that's my personal belief. And we all were just mish mashed up you're saying into one group? That's my
personal belief. And so yeah, cuz like growing up, we're told, you know, you have Indian blood and this kind of that my grandma was always pushing that we honestly

Yeah, he never told me that. That's interesting. I never heard that. Yeah, you Yeah,

that was not that was now and my grandmother was a fair skinned lady like Miss loving was, if you look at her picture, they're about the same complexion. So that's the key right here. Another undertone is that's why I said about the Drake situation is not colorism is cultural culture ism, right? More than than color, because you have people all hues. Whether you identify as black and you grew up well with a black family, then there's no question about your blackness.
Right. But if you're biracial, the next to where the question starts to come in, and we will, like I said, we'll get to the why. By just laying out. on a grand scale, it wasn't an issue in pockets like in 1976 in Virginia. Steel to this day. I was from North Carolina. No, no, I am from North Carolina. When I came here. It was a culture shock. Seeing so many interracial dating people were interracial dating and interracial procreating because it wasn't as prevalent in North
Carolina. Nationals right one state over so. Yeah. It's, I find it to be fascinating. Because it's like it comes also from culture. I'll just I'm gonna be honest with you. My mom told me don't bring a white girl home. That was that was baked in. Because and a lot of people ask that sounds racist. What that is, is that was protective. Because we were taught anytime she could say it wasn't consensual. And that's your black a. That's how it was said. And I'm just giving it to really
get Yeah, really? Wow. Yes. And that's how I was told that's how it was said and that's how it is is now fast forward. It's more of self love while people who don't want to do it like me, I love myself. You know, I love myself so much. I want to find somebody to look like me to make babies, they look like me. But here's the kicker, my wife is, quote unquote, light skinned. But her parents is, one is my color and one is darker than me.
Make that make sense. And I have babies. My babies a life plan, brother that's got this, I'm just showing you how this color issue is.

Okay, so I understand what you're saying is that the color issue is is just the wrong issue?

Yes, it's the wrong issue because people like Oh, kids no more being colors. No, no, that's not what he's saying. Is that draping grow up here in this culture. That's why he doesn't understand the nuance of the conversation. But I will say I'm kidding, the more part you have to communicate that clearly. Because what it can be done is, is that oh, you're a colorist. This is a right

and yeah, I think I think we just nailed it culturist Instead of a colorist to culturist or culturalism versus colorism. And

that's the key because like, that's the whole thing about when we say eight off versus not eight, Asa FBA versus not FBA, it goes back to culture. You come here from Africa, you don't understand our culture. You don't understand our relationship with this system here. And I'm gonna go, like I said, this is gonna be Well, no, may make it too long. But this, if somebody will look at me in Africa, and call me water down, because I have white blood in me somewhere down the
line. I've been called watered down. Yeah.

Yeah, I think it gets. Right. Right. But that but that's only based on the color. Not not on anything else. Right. Well,

they assume it's all based off the assumption if you're in America, you have white blood. And you that's the assumption for non American black people. Yeah. Because if you grew up in Africa, or Caribbean's, more likely you had all black lineage. But

whereas if you if you move to Nigeria tomorrow, you'd probably feel like a fish out of water, because you're not part of that culture, even though you have the same quote unquote, color, right?

At home. But no, there was probably look at me as watered down, because you're American. And you have white blood in you. And this was said this, if you take white people out of it for a second, just the intro, if you want to say black, for lack of better word is so nuanced. And when you try to fit what are you

talking about? What do you talk, it's the black and
¶ The community?
brown community.

We want to go brown, look at Brazil, look at complicated resilience. This

is what I love about our so called leaders is there to talk about the black and brown community and I'm going huh?

Yeah. So I'll just say, I don't want to be a dead horse, but I just want to lay it out. Because you might, what do you mean? Like, why would you say that or that? And to be honest with you this whole conversation? I'm just gonna say that because I feel like I had a lady put this up front. This is for the children because they're gonna be even more confused when they interact with the system. That's the real problem. Like I said, if the system then is this none of this will matter at all.
Because then like I say, you're not the you know, use an overused term but like Martin Luther King said the content or your care that's what should be are you a piece of crap person or not? That should be that should be the only question we judge people offer. But no, because the system is like your life skin you must be think you're white or your dark skin you know, your whatever you're saying that goes like you're dumb or whatever you are subhuman? Yeah. All of these
assumptions can't go with color. But even with color, it ain't the same because like I say, you could have a black person like my wife this fair, light, light skin light skin, she's what they would call a red bone. This and she's not high yellow, which those are different terms. You're saying if you know, you know, so. But it was read. Yeah,

I never heard Yeah,

that's more like a reddish tone to your skin more than a fair skin. Bye I compare Barack Obama to can I say? I say maybe Kamala Harris? I mean, maybe not. I mean, it's difficult, like I said, is this? Yeah.

There's a Wikipedia entry for it. So I'm good. I'm good.

And really the women Oh, they go by MAC. Make identifiers. If you're this number, Tony. I went, I went down that rabbit hole and I turned around. No, yeah, this I was confused once I went there like this, that and hair texture. Yeah, that's how they Yeah, they have different grades of hair texture, and C, D, B, whatever forced the I don't know, I got confused. And then they go by the Mac shade on

the Mac cosmetic color. Yes.

Yes. Okay. Right. So I'm just gonna, I just want to put all that out there to show you when you start having these high level conversations, and in

what can I go ahead, just need to ask. Okay, so this is Drake, Kendrick Lamar thing. I hope you're gonna explain to me why this is playing out. What is a Pulitzer Prize winner doing, you know, in this beef with Drake, what what is the? Is
¶ Why?
this something that had to come to a head? Is this something that is planned to come to a head is this

what is that quick conversation? We'll get back because maybe that what it looks like is Drake has been given white privilege to the other artist. He came in, he was gay. I'm just telling you that you're saying how was perceived what the perception is? He came in, he's a super light skinned that guy by ratio. Now, here's the way it gets sticky. Because he's Jewish.

Ah, there it is. Okay, there. Yeah, that's the part I was forgetting. Yes. Right.

So he may look at like, he got privileges from being Jewish from a Jewish ran industry.

They probably did. I mean, that's, that's, that's as we you, and I think agree. The sheaves, your cultures and people stick together. Right.

And but here's the thing, I think is the perfect time and a bad way for that conversation to start happening. But they can't say Jewish, anti semitic thing. There

it is. There it is that okay? You know what, stop,
¶ Benefitting from White Privilege?
stop, stop. Yeah, it just because I've been going through this myself and in my world, where all of a sudden, it became okay to say, Bad Juju. And it started with Kanye. And Kanye got ripped apart for it. And I don't even know where Kanye is right now. But all of a sudden, this undertone that's been
bubbling along for 2030 years. I've seen it. I've seen it online, you know, the the rise of alternative social media networks, it became more and more prevalent then all of a sudden, with Israel, Hamas, it became okay to come out and say it and if there's no pushback,

which, who controls that the system? The system of white supremacy said Jews are no longer white. That's basically what's happening here. Boom, there it is. This is that's what's happening. And then Kendrick Lamar is tapping into that energy. Without saying though, they can't say it. Because, yeah, because they overtly

because then the beef battle would be over very quick. Right would have said, yeah.

Right. So he's like, you're not black. Now you figure out what you are. You can't be black. But

you just you just you've just made this whole thing clear to me in one second. Like, Oh, of course, how could I have missed that? I knew that about Drake. And now I get it. Yes. Yeah, the Jew. But all the Jews I know. Don't consider themselves white. This is the interesting thing. I say, Are you white? No, I'm Jewish.

Well, here's the other thing. Like I said, this is where it gets sticky. Because lad, DJ Vlad, got into it with some lady from Princeton. About she said, Are you white? And he got in his film because he asked it was he was he white? And like I said, this is white privilege. Jews have been beneficial benefactors of a beneficiary. I think that's the right word. Oh, white supremacy.

Right. And when you say white privilege, I'm going to in my mind you're saying white supremacist privilege and not not what people have called me like you have white privilege is a different thing. What

Why is the premise don't have privilege. They have, you're saying Divine Right? Yeah, that's the difference why? And I said this on a previous show, white privilege is given to non white people. They gave it to the Italians. They gave it to the, you know, whatever you're saying. Yeah, Hispanics are starting to get it. Yeah, you can have some white privilege, biracial people. Yeah, you can get some white privilege to the Jews. Yeah, you can get some white privilege.
But white supremacist don't need privilege. I'm white. That's how they think you're saying I'm supreme? Yeah. what can what privilege can you give supreme in their mind? to none. You see, they dole out privilege. And what they've done is retracted the privilege from the Jews. Yeah. And that's why the Jews have to ask for it now. And in terms of funding, protection, and all the other things.

It's so amazing to me mo that, that there is a huge belief that the Jews particularly Zinus in Israel, run America. Yes. And I just don't believe that. I don't either. It's just like, No, you're seeing it. You're seeing it the wrong way. This is not and this just it's, you can't tell you cannot convince these people otherwise,

the way I say it is who's asking? Who's giving? That's right. That's the only way you look at it. Right? Well, Palestine, and Israel. Yeah,

we're asking we're given we're given to both sides. I've read the bill the other day, we're giving money to Palestine and money to Israel.

Right. So who's asking? And who's giving it? Who can say no, you need to stop. And who has to stop? That's who supreme. And that's who asked the PRI. And when you look at it like that? It clears this stuff up. And going back to this subject. Okay. We've got to let no black people who don't give us a white privilege and merit let them marry white people. That's what happened with this case. You know, it's bad for
business, you know, set up all this segregation. Because what happened was television came about Yeah, now you got black kids having to go to the backer restaurant getting beat this kind of thing. Oh, no, we can't do that. Because that's broadcast across the world. No, no, no, we got to change the business. Change the business model. So how do we do that? We let some black people black men specifically get you know, because like they've always had black women, white men whenever
they want. That's that's a privilege. You're saying that they've given black women to come on? Yeah, you can sleep with me. If I say so. Right. But black man, it's like, okay, yeah, we got to put some good stuff up in like storefront. Yeah. And I'm being very honest, but honest, not even honest. But blunt. Blunt. Yeah, that's the I'm being burned, because that's what it is. But this is

what I love mo because I'm here. There's a little more firing you that I haven't necessarily heard before. And, and I've actually had been, for whatever reason, x has been given me more of your of your tweets recently. So I know you've been on a track here. I know you've been building up to this. And I love it. Because this is the honesty that you don't get and you do not get this anywhere. In fact, the whole Kendrick Lamar Drake beef is not honest. If you think about it, it's dishonest.

Uh, you know why you have to be more honest. In my opinion, the thicker that confusion gets, the more straight to the point you gotta get right, dancing around with you. Because you just got to confuse people more you had to get who's giving? Who's asking? You know, that's it. And let people think about it. And like, Huh, oh, if they're running, they went had to ask for Iron Dome or whatever else or yeah, this like this, going back and say going back to the era we
allow you. We know we have a rule on the books that says you're black. We're gonna allow you to marry white people. Why don't you just take the rule off? Once you move that rule off the book, anyone? We are proud now we're going to write another rule that we can also receive. Just like with the voting Bill, you were saying they gotta go every few years. And you know, oh, yeah, whatever. We won't still let you blow vote black people. And then it's like, oh, we gotta fight for it. You know?
And we don't. What are we doing here? He's confusing that. But

only if you can figure out how to get an ID you know? That's yeah, that's

Sorry for the long.

Good. Well, we

had to get get some confusion out of the way. All right now going back. Let's go back to 1976 and the part two of the loving report,
and this is loving recalls how the ordeal began one night in 1958. The night we were arrested was about 2am. And I saw this light, you know, and I woke up
¶ Back
and the police said to me, and told us to get up when he was under arrest. In a way the cars to Bowling Green locked us up in January, they had to trial. And they told us to leave the state for 25 years. But the way I understood it, the lawyer said we'd come back to visit you know, when we wanted to. So, least we came back and they got us again. We had been a few times before that, but they used to we came down, they found their wrestlers again. Okay.

That is fine, that we're like, how do they know? You were back? And they said you could come it seemed like they had some kind of understand they could come visit. But they didn't let them visit. It seems very staged. And not people get upset with me. That's fine. It seems very staged, just like the whole rose upon parks situation, with the whole Arkansas situation. With the whole Brown versus Board situation. This is
political theater, to push something forward. And what it is also if it wasn't the issue, then this is what confuses me a little bit. If they didn't see an issue with them dating with each other now all of a sudden they're getting arrested for it. They said that they didn't even see racism, and that form is this thing and it's you couldn't date who you wanted to date in that pocket of Virginia. Now all of a sudden they're getting back to in the morning, you getting your door kicked in.

Wow, that must have been for some political point somewhere. Yeah, so

that's just out there straight. Let's go and wrap this up. The last third part. I'm loving spent
five years in a negro ghetto in Washington DC, where they suffered the indignities of unemployment, loneliness and uncertainty. On one of the children on use to city streets
was hit by a car that says loving decided to act. She wrote a letter to the then Attorney General the United States, Robert Kennedy, who in turn pass the letter on to a Virginia lawyer, Bernard Cohen, a member of the Civil Liberties Union, we have three children and cannot afford an attorney we wrote to the Attorney General, he suggested that we get in touch with you for advice. Please help us if he can hope to hear from you real soon. Yours Truly Mr. And Mrs. Richard
loving. And it was that simple letter that got us into this not so simple case. Bernard Cohen could and did help the loving. He teamed up with another attorney Phil Hirsch cop. And at no fee, they reopened the loving case in the Virginia courts.

Okay, so that was it was clearly for those political points. But

they don't want to be Kennedy. Yeah, and I want to make one point we can move forward. He went to DC and lived the black experience. Yours. Yeah, yeah. I can't take this anymore.

The kids, the kids were confused. I didn't understand what was going on. And

of course, I'm sure it wasn't a cakewalk for him. And it was a No kidding. Yeah. Yeah. But why? He didn't want to live her experience. He wanted her to live his experience. That's what had to change. You know, it's not okay. Well, we're in love. And I just got to take, you know, who's going to have lived the black experience?

Well, no, but she also didn't live that because she was his neighbor.

Right? But I'm gonna say like, they had to go somewhere where only black people could be. Right is my point, right? I gotcha. So they were like, Let's please anybody change the laws, we need some privilege over here for my wife. So he could come home, okay. And then just witness this. When you think about racism, that's how silly it is. When a series is cancer, you know, say like, Don't get it twisted, but to say, you know, you're this shader that shade or whatever
else. And to prove that point now we got to go back to Episode 39. I'm just wanting to play this clip. It's a tad bit long, but I want to illustrate how you're perceived to be white.
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And this is 1949 when this movie was made. Oh, yeah, I remember looking at how they receive her and then it's nothing changed. Look as soon as they find out what she identifies as how different they treat her pinky,
man and we give you a list Thank you. Me ma'am. You must be strange around here we can little white girl walk myself through this your nigger section. I live in this section. I said I live here not just let me alone. She lives. Well, what are you know, who'd ever figured that? Oh boy little Swamp Rabbit What is he let's go getter let's go and don't be afraid baby Lincoln see a face paint hold up your face you really want to drink give me that

you know, as I listen to that, and I was thinking about this the other night, actually last night, we, we watched some of the Eurovision Song Contest, semi finals. And the you know, and that's where the it's all the best songs, forget about the performances, because there's all kinds of stuff wrong with that forget about the production, just purely it's about the songs. And, and we're sitting down like this all sucks. It's all so bad. And I
think you know, the blue good at this. And America is good at creating entertainment products. And without us this type of this is a historical document, you know, this is this is a historical thing. And I think without America, of course, we get blamed for being the worst at at racism and slavery, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera. But we really did we really have continuously document that even right down to this Drake and
Kendrick Lamar thing. And we are the ones also putting it out there for the world to see which is kind of extraordinary when you think about it.

It's the perfect storm of talents, Maria merging. And what I mean by that is the Jewish man, he's excellent at putting on a show. Gotta give it was a documentary called, Who created Hollywood, I believe. And in Hollywood, glitz, the glamour the limelight, that's all them. There, that's their talent. The black people brought the actual soul, you're saying like they said, let's use black music. Bullish like, sparkling it up?

Well, to this day, whoa, this is what Hip Hop radio has become.

Right? And then what white people bring to the table or the managers, you know, as far as not managers in that sense, but the finance the put the money behind it. And then even when Asians look, look at hip hop, they brought in the technology of you know, creating certain, you know, Sam pieces of equipment and things of that nature. So that's why hip hop is a fascinating thing. Like when everybody works at what they're
¶ Coming Together
good at, it becomes something special. The problem is, is when the PA start getting divided up, that's where it becomes. Well, you

mean the money? Yes. Yeah. Yeah.

The so that's what I'm saying. Like, you're exactly right, if everybody leans to their strips, and works together, and I've I was not going to lay this out on this show, but I'm just gonna say it because you always do this, you'll say You always make me go somewhere else with it. The only issue with white supremacy and why it's not affected by the Seven Habits of Highly Effective People. It when when, you

know, you're saying this, I'm thinking, wow, this is why value for value works. This is why when we created the value for value system, and podcasting, where everybody gets a piece of the pie, and it's transmitted, the splits, it's transparent, everybody can see it. Everybody can see oh, this is my piece I'm getting that you can see exactly what came in. And we have a group of developers which is believed me
politically very, very diverse. I mean, as diverse as ISRAEL PALESTINE, as diverse as gay straight as diverse as we don't have a lot of women there but But it all it has been working for three years. open source projects typically blow up within 18 months, and someone rage quits and takes the whole code with them or whatever. But it's because of the fair division that are the least a division that everybody can see win win for everybody.

That's what makes that's The Seven Habits of Highly Effective People. And that's where white supremacy fails. You know, the other six habits. Excellent. And you know, what, if you do the seventh habit, a win win is no longer white supremacy is justice, right? That's the only thing that's holding you back when you go to somewhere, and they have a natural resource like oil, or lithium, you say, Hey, you got some nice lithium there black people over all in the Congo.
Let's do a win win deal here. And I could bring your quality of life up to my quality of life. And you give me something that lithium, you know, everybody wins, know what it is, it's predatory. I'm gonna have you down there. And as least as possible, we might take you a while to, you know, you're gonna pick the lithium out with your bare hands. You can't have

your kids again, do it now you kids. Even better than that. That's

crazy. That's the only thing I had that thought like, I was saving that. But I want to bring because you brought it up. And that's the thing if everybody would just be win win. And I mean, you this show, it's a win win. Like you say, you you win in the podcast, and 2.0 like you described, it's a win win. Everybody wins. It, no win, lose, nobody wins in a win, lose. Because guess what the person that one is going to make a victim out of the loser and you're going to become an
oppressor. And they you know, if you're going to take that route, don't play the pious role. Don't you know, don't be like, Oh, well, that's just the way it is no, leaving it literally laying into Yamo precedent. That's what I'm doing. A bit, let's be honest, no, because that we start getting this other problems when you start to lie about what you're doing. And like I said, that's the what light with the whole thing is going over there in the Middle East. That's the problem.
Nobody's doing when when it's enough natural resources to go around is enough energy in the world to go around. It's enough food in the world to go around, where everybody can have a decent quality of life, and nobody has to be oppressed. Nobody has to be mistreated.

But that is the system. That's what corporations have become. All of it. It's not win win. You

know, this is why the system of white supremacy is the system of white supremacy because the white supremacist think if we do win win, then they'll breed us out. That's that's the core of racism right there. If we don't owe press, then you see that? I hate the maintenance about that in the Middle East, because it's not. But it's the same thing. If we don't keep our foot on their neck, and keep them in this
little small part of land, they will overrun us. So yeah, that's why they look like white supremacist over there in Israel. That's why the college kid is acting crazy because they can see it. It's like, Dude, this is not when when you know, and really what it is a lot of kid with guilt. It's like, look at all the stuff I have

to do kids. So it's total guilt.

And this is why I said you can't win even if you win and win lose, because guess what, your kids are going to be a shame to you. Yeah,

yeah, well, we have, but we haven't given them as the tools to see the path to change. That's what we haven't given them. Well,

it's simple. And that's why I've been doing about 98, the show, the show is simple. Nobody's mistreated, and the person that needs the most help gets the most constructive help. That's it. That's it. But now Oh, we got to go to the One Drop room got to get into and if you have a drop of this, we get
¶ One Drop? 🩸
the mystery out you explain what the one drop rule is. the
one drop rule, historically, also known as the rule of hypo descent, was really instituted to protect whiteness, it was a way for the white majority to be able to name and cite who was white. So it was one drop, which is 1/32 1/32 of Negro or African blood would make that person Negro or African. Whatever the classification they used at the time I hear people say we're in a post racial society. The reality is, in order to get beyond something, you have to
understand it right. And where in your education, where have you been required to learn about race? They don't teach it. No, it is the foundation of this country. We have to talk about race. We have to talk about racial difference. It is just a flat out lie for us to believe that we've moved beyond race.

You know, a lot of people when Don Lemon was kicked off of a CNN thought it was from a whole bunch of things. I think it was for this conversation that he had, he was getting too close to the third rail, that

and then when he did the aid off thing, like who he wanted to go for them. Yeah,

that's a big mistake. So

this is why I say American black people aid us can identify with white people globally, because we're the minority in this country, like white people are on the globe. So we can identify, it's like, I'm saying this now, you keep this up, it's not gonna be any of us live. You still want to talk and identify. So it's like, hey, we don't want to get rid of nobody. How do we make sure that happens? How do we come to the table and have an honest conversation? And say, You know
what? I think it was like 13%, there was a word is white. How do we make sure that number doesn't shrink past 13%? And then the trade off? Whatever percentage, there are resources that 13% controls? How about we spread that around equally? Where everybody because this is all the galley really, is this distrust? You know, and this is why you had to have arms race
and build nuclear weapons and all this stupid stuff. Because like, if I don't, if I don't get to it first, they'll get to that and they'll take me out to places the face of the planet. And then we all live in a down world of panic, and anxiety.

Yeah, pretty much where we are right now. Right? Wait.

And then if you go down to the Lovings on it on a one to one in their little pocket of Virginia, it didn't exist. Because like you can date who you want to date, you know, that kind of thing. So it obviously works if we let the people start rolling this up. Amen. So I'm just it is blows my mind that it's that simple. But I understand fear, because I honestly, I've may have said this on the show, but I'm gonna say it again. Why take interest in this is in this in this a
little foreshadowing? I have three daughters. Who are they going to marry? Yeah, that's a real question for you. And
¶ Marriage?

I hear you, I hear you who who will these men be like, right?

Because I love myself. I love how I look, you know, and there's nothing wrong with and everybody loves to how they look and want to make more people how they look. There's no There's no problem with that. That's not racist. That's not that's loving yourself. What the problem like I say, Who are my daughter is going to America supply. Right? Because if if I'm live a better life, their options get smaller and a better life I'll live there options get even smaller. Where to honestly
aid off people may have to go to arranged marriages. To be I mean, just to survive as this culture, or I mean, we're a counterculture. We don't have a culture. We are a counterculture to the system of white supremacy. Now as it goes globally. That's global. Everybody is not white supremacist, is counterculture, even the orange people. And that is why they are realized.

Well, there you go. Orange and black are starting to are starting to come together. Well,

that's why they keep that's why they're really ramping up the race machine. Yeah. You know, that's why racism is the all time high because they can't let the Orange Man and the brown man, the black mayor realized, Hey, we got here. Yeah, yeah. So I mean, that's that's all and but it goes back. Going back to Virginia now, because that was the original Loving versus Virginia was the original legalization, interracial marriage. We have to go back to
Thomas Jefferson. And you know, with Sally Hemings, and this is Thomas Jefferson's grandson, and we just can listen to it right quick. Just for context. This is his grandson who escaped to Cincinnati.
Back here at home. It is a fourth of July with a unique meaning for somebody eight year old James Clark. Today is more than a holiday to him. It's a day where he thinks of his ancestors and that's because he's a descendant of Thomas Jefferson. nanorods Palma Searle explains his connection to our founding father. If we go over here history on the walls in history in his blood, this is my grandmother neat jeans, Ira Clark's grandmother, Martha or Bessie Clark. This
is my grandmother again. She's active in the First Baptist Church of Commons Ville, of which my mother wound up being very active according to James all of them are descendants of Thomas Jefferson, a founding father and third President of the United States. Most people mentioned it too. They think I'm crazy or like I see Bessie James his grandmother was Peter faucets granddaughter in James says that faucet was not only one of Jefferson slaves, but also his grandson.

Yeah, and this is why month to month ship Monticello had of course to be To be deemed one big racist, racist place. Right? And that's in Virginia. Yeah. And they couldn't see it as as, you know, as actually something really fantastic.

That Ms. Why'd I believe loving wasn't a weird thing because interracial sex. It was very common in Virginia for a long time pre predates the way it was existed during slavery. So I mean, that that that actual practice was not foreign. It was like when you want to legitimize a person, as your wife, and make a contractual bond with him, whoa, that's the way the problem No, no, don't shoot not as you, you try to humanize her. What are you doing? You're saying that's
not how we do business. But let's go ahead and get to the second part of Thomas Jefferson's grandson, facet
¶ TJ
moved to Ohio after Jefferson's death, becoming a reverend in Cincinnati, and a conductor for the Underground Railroad original slave papers that relates back from Thomas Jefferson, down to well, I guess you would say down to my son, now that I'm older, I'm proud of my heritage, he's got a table full of century old documents,
we feel good. That's the only thing I can hold on, and keep me sane, including the papers that released his ancestors from slavery with their original seal, I might add this, to let you know, they're not fraudulent, reminding him that we've come a long way even though he says growing up in the 50s with racism was not easy. Christmas bag was in the mailbox, and I got it out. Oh, you know what it was two pieces of code. James is a welder who retired in January after 25
years. And although he can't read or write, like many of his ancestors, he's got the history written on these papers in in his blood. And that gave me satisfaction or looking back where I was where I've been, and now it will serve Oh, nine on your side.

So you have documents going? Yeah, you're the grandson of Thomas Jefferson. And I'm sure there's a fortune that goes along with that. But you can't read. All right. Well, that you have the papers, but you can read all and teach you how to read them. So you can't you can't even do anything with that, you know, to get whatever you're entitled to by being his grandson. Yeah, this is what he thinks on the news. This, How sick is that? Yeah. And it gets sicker when we get into this.
Thomas Jefferson meet Sally Hemings in an SNL skit. Gentleman,
if you'd like to adjourn to the dining room, dinner is nearly served. Maria Yes, father. Who was that? That Sally Hemings father, the new slave you inherited? Sally, I'm Thomas Jefferson, the owner of this house. I know who you are. I just wanted to welcome you to Monticello. I hope you'll be very happy here with us. Well, I'm just happy to be indoors. That's charming. Brother, here he goes. Like a beat to a blossom. What are you talking about?
Until you read the papers? Everybody knows it. Thomas Jefferson only dates Black Chicks. Man. No, really? You've never heard that. No, that's totally his thing. Everybody knows that.

In humor, there's some truth always. I'm happy to be indoors. That that's a house negro. Uh huh. That's the animosity between the field Negro and the house Negro, which now we're gonna get there with Malcolm X. And maybe that's a good time to skip there. Let's go to 13. Okay, and then we'll come back to 12. Because I want to lay this out because that's where the animosity and this is where color comes in to cause animosity between black people. Because house Negro does witness
selected to be in the house. They were family members of the slave owners
factor in slavery. When Black people like me, talk to the slave. They didn't kill him. They sent some old house Negro along behind him to undo what he said. You have to read the history of slavery to understand there's two kinds of Negro house Negro and the field negro. And the house Negro always looked out for when the bill negros got too much out of line, he held him back in check. He put them back on the plantation. The house Negro could afford to do that because he knows better
than the field Negro Do you better be dressed better. And he lived in a better house, he lived next to his masks in the basement, the same food mask and his same clothes. And he could talk just like with masks masks a good addiction. And he loved his master more than his master loved himself. That's why he didn't want a master. If the master got sick, he said, What's the matter boss, we sit on the master house. He's trying to put the fire out. He didn't want his massive house burned. He never
wanted his master property threatened. And he was more defensive than the master whatever. But how can he grow?

What is Malcolm saying here? I mean, I understand literally what he's saying. But did we miss an opportunity by calling the house Negro, the Uncle Tom and the trader and everything bad?

Well, they're not traders. Now that's their sign. They're stuck in the system, you know, and they're stuck in the middle. Because your father is the Master. Yes. And your mother is a slave. And it wasn't by force, it was more about coercion, and we're gonna get to, we can probably just skip over 12, we're gonna go to 14 after this. But it was more of coercion, that, Hey, you gotta get here, you live in in the house. That's what she's saying. I'm just happy to be indoors.
That was that was the punchline to the joke. I'm just happy to be indoors. You know what that see, you're carrying in your belly, that's my child, it might get you and him free, or her free. If you go along and undo whatever those field negros trying to do, you report back to me, you know, you go down there, and I'm gonna teach you how to read and you read in the Bible, and you convince them, it's their role to be slaves by the Bible. That that's, that's how it works. And maybe, on my
deathbed, I'll give you and your child freedom. So if you want your child to be free, of course, you're going to
¶ The mindset
sabotage, you're saying whatever everybody else is doing. This is the blue light, this is the blue leg. That's the monster, the blue light.

There it is, check in, check it in.

That's the mindset, I'm gonna let you come to Princeton, Harvard, wherever else and get one of these nice educations. And as long as you keep them in line, and keep on voting, or keep on marching, and not trying to change the system, I'll make sure I give you what you're gonna live hand to mouth. That way I can call your phone anytime. And if you act, I'll send you back down to the field with him. And you know what they're gonna do with you down in the field? If they know I
don't care what you do. Hello, Palestine, Israel. Yeah, same thing.

Exactly. Yep. There it is. This system is no good.

Of course, right? I mean, that's, that's why I'm trying to get rid of it. And it's not, isn't it? Because is, is we can be further along we can we bro we live in. We live, we can have the best life ever. If one, we stopped mistreating people

who challenge each other.

And then they wonder why it boils down to a one to one relationship where everybody's trying to scam each other, or grift each other, or, or steal from each other or whatever else. I mean, that's the starts at the top. What they say the fish rots in the head. You made the point you're saying if the politicians are stealing, then

everyone else everyone else is gonna do it. Of course, if that's the example, let me get mine. Right.

There's no more high ground here. And but that's the system. That's how it works. And it's like, I'll keep them fighting against each other. And I'll keep the scale balanced. And like I say, on a global scale or down a global sense. And this is the same thing with Drake and Kendrick Lamar will bring Drake in. We know he ain't one of us wink nod nod. But we'll give him some privilege. You know, we'll give him all the
things he needs to be successful. He has talent I'm not taking that away from but we'll make him the everybody else does trust him. Because we'll let him Oh, ghostwriting that was taboo in hip hop. But we were writing the papers Oh, no, no, this is the new hip hop. We will make it okay for him to have people write his routes for him. And that creates animosity between the house Negroes Kendrick Lamar future knowledge him against the internet. We see him in the field and it grows
against Drake the house negro. Yeah, same system. Okay, it ain't that complex. No, that's the thing about it. Not that it's not that complex, where dad going if it's effective, but in effect, because he's gonna miss one thing to win win. Yeah, it still is. I keep saying that it is. But I'm going to illustrate
¶ You talk so well
to you how this leveraged work and this is a movie came out in 2000. This is American scandal. This is my story about Sally Hemings. And this is the conversation. I'm just gonna preface to what's going on here. This is a conversation between Sally Hemings and her mother upon her return from France. Back to Virginia for your prints fabric. Whose life tried on that
could dare Don't you dare say that one fine things. Fine. Things are traps, but only wanted to try it all. I suppose your sister only wanted to try it on to you see what uh, got her get on out of here credit. Sally, I'm very disappointed in you. You were supposed to stay over there and be free. James was gonna see after you. and I both have your back here. And you with your belly as big as a house. By Master. Please, mother and none of this. Please, mother
enough of this. Ma'am. Ma'am. Ma'am. I we do have such class. now. Don't wait. style and sophistication. Here. Let me tell you something, missy. Your cue coming back here with your proper English and French clothes don't make you nothing but a fancy slave.

That that's where it's rooted. Oh, you speak so? Well. Yeah. No. That then that makes you it is articulated as you talk light. And that's why it's not trusted. When somebody talks white. I know it's not taught with that's how it was said. Because here you come with a white education and a white mind. Every time it comes, it's coming to treat me every time I interacted with that NASA neat house and ingrown field Negro relationship. And that's why they're not trusted. And that's
why Obama had to do that. That swag. He was saying that kind of thing. Code switching? Yeah. Because if you taught our spoke with without that, and carried yourself just as a you know, as a Harvard or Ivy League person is supposed to, and whatever that means, then you won't be trusted. So we got to put some nice swag. Put some swag on it. And that was a mislead.

And people fell for it, I guess. Well,

because he had a black wife. All right. See him man. I'm gonna say oh, we're going in right.

Yeah, wife in quotes. Okay. Yeah,

him and Martin Luther King wanted white women. Let's just keep it 100 Well, they knew it will make me ineffective when I go talk to the Negroes if I got a white woman on my arm. That's why they marry black. Truth be told. Yeah. Make sense? Yeah, cuz you can't come down here talking to her on your arm. That's gonna set off along now. We need to we need you to fit the whole park. So that's what we got the swag. You'd like to shoot basketball? You like rap music? You got a black wife? I
mean, a black black wife. Yeah. And what I mean by that is is a dark skinned woman. Oh, that was strategic.

Yeah, well, that was product Obama. Yeah.

Package. You know, where it works, man.

It worked and worked. And the same thing. Just going back to 1958 or 1967. What was it used for? to usher in same sex privilege is exactly same thing.

But the problem is he his swag ran out on him. The pumpkins and the cutter character into a pumpkin on him. That was the problem. You can't fake it in the same thing with Drake. You can only fake it for so long. Once we sniff you out,
¶ Get out the way
you out. It's like being out. And then that's the best analogy I can give you is Oh, something like Right? That's fishy. So

is is Kendrick Lamar. What he's doing is that not just then a continuation of what Kanye was doing? As far as what? Calling out the industry.

Yes, well, what killed the mark is doing he's calling out. And like I said, I'm not I'm a guy. I gotta say this upfront. I am a Kendrick Lamar fan. I think Kim Zamora is the best rapper ever. Got to say that upfront, but I'm gonna say this as well. Kenji Lamar is not a benevolent fit. He grew because Killian Amar wants to be the best rapper ever. And the only person standing in his way is Drake. Really? Yes. And why
is Drake standing in his way? Cause Drake got all the records he got all of Michael Jackson records not record I'm still not like the number one albums that the numbers success. And, and the you know, just the markets it says so only thing standing in his way to be the best all the time and you got to beat beat became to be the king. So that's, you know, it's kind of like the wire with Marla Marlowe, you know, that's what
Caitlin got, you know, he don't care about you. You don't care about the money and all that he wants to be known as the best rapper ever. And the best way to do that is to get Drake out the way. Now there's some other stuff too, but I'm not gonna get into the allegations or whatever else. You're saying. But that on a surface Hip Hop level. That's the point get Drake out the way if I get him out the way then I'll be number one. And I'll have a long rank because there's nobody else really in the
conversation. But But Sam J. Cole, who's another biracial, and Drake and Kendrick Lamar All right. So but but now you see why hopefully people are understanding that beef better by what I'm doing here explaining explaining why color and biracial is the same thing Dre looking at looking at Dre like oh, you Massa soon. Yeah, that's what they look at. Are you Oh, yeah. Yeah, you go back to the house. And he gives you good clothes and all this stuff. Right? So

that means we have have we learned nothing, because that approach has not worked for 7080 100 years.

Well, that worked perfectly because when over 78 What was the goal? You're saying the goal is not to completely subjugate. I get rid of JFK Jr. told they could kill us all they want to? They got the technology. Yeah. What they want to do is just make sure the system keeps going for 78.

I mean, I mean, what would Lamar is doing? What I mean? He's basically taking the same tactic that has always been been taken. beaten

up the house lady. Yeah. Well, I mean, we're actually gonna do I don't know by that's the person I'm allowed to be though. That in the system, you can beat on him. As long as you will get in my face. The occasion tomorrow? No, that's why he asked the paint. Drake is white. And as you said, Jewish people don't identify as white or that's why they had to identify them as white. Because they know if they get into the Jewish man phase, they'll shut you down. Yeah, you won't put
out another album. Because they they're allowed to run the record. And it's very convoluted. Yeah, it's very convoluted. And there's another things very well also, and this is what nobody's really talking about. They're making the case
¶ Validating royalty free AI music?
for AR music is what they're doing. Because I don't know if you notice or not drink and want to drink this song. He used to pots voice Yeah. Yeah, yeah. So they he just basically validated a music and wanted to beef, beef beats that use against Drake called BB or Drizzy is a soul song made by AI that was sampled. So now we don't have to sample all people catalogs no more.

You just You just make something new. That sounds like right, and

then sample it. Which I've done that like and it's pretty much it's it's pretty impressive.

Right? Right. Okay, so So you you make an AI song then you sample some that sounds like some artists, but then you sample that and then you're, you're royalty free.

Right? Because you say mega song it sound like this the premiums right? And you can even tell it what you want to say. Right? And then you get a sample that Yeah. And the you make it and you don't have to pay the Supremes. When all they're doing is validating a page is valid. There's been a whole validation process of AI music, that's a good point. Which that's the biggest winner out of all of this.

I would say legalization, not validation but legalization.

The reason why I'm saying validation is is is nobody cringed when they did it. Nobody are gonna say no, why are you saying just rejected it? Like no, you can't do that. No, that's great. You know,

well, the Tupac sample was a problem so that that that had to stop but then the other stuff was not right.

Just just a norm realization of it so well let's get back to the second point. So what happens here and let's catch people backups. Can we talk a little bit between the clips. Sally Hemings came in she's that her sister try on her print. Clothing. Yeah. That Tom bought her. And her mother walks in like, hey, we will find things. get you caught up and
¶ You Talk Good - Cont
see You're saying she's baseline. Hey, Mom, you're saying, you know, you did it. You did it too. So that's where we're at right now.
I made a choice, Mama. Same choice. You may even master whales. I didn't have no choice for a damn fool Sally. When my mother was brought over here from Africa old captain Hemmings he took her she had me and he turned around and he sold us master whale master whale started and with me. I had six of you. Pete Turner around. And we ended up here best way it is with a selling mom and I always thought we were protected by who had this baby coming from
you listen to me. You're get that freedom for your baby. And right now why you still got to talk?

Yeah, I remember that. I think I think I watched that.

I recall. Obviously, she didn't get what she was supposed to get from Tom No, because our grandson I had escaped to Cincinnati that we just heard from in the previous clips. As a as an A slave Oh, as a slave he had to escape. So that got like, it's just it just continues on. And like say her mom didn't get her freedom. And this goes on and on and on. And what this first block of the show had discussed the relationship interracial, black, quote unquote, non white woman
and innocent and a white man. That's a different phenomenon.
¶ One male can mess it up
When we get to the black man and the white woman, they're not the same. And that's what even causes more confusion because it's not seeing the same. Um, you'll see the tone later. But why is why is

that why do you think that is?

Okay, from the white supremacist standpoint, the black male is a super spreader. A black woman could only have one white mixed baby at a time. A black man can make a whole lot of Miss keys and cause a whole lot of damage. This is why they used to castrate black men. Yes, man. And if you ever what put this in perspective for me? When I'm in my younger years, I did some indoor gardening you fill in the blanks and what you had. What's your you had to do to culture horticulture?
Horticulture? Yeah. Which you had to do if you had a male plant? You had to get it out of there ASAP. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah.

I'm familiar with some of the horticulture.

Yes. Right. Because what happens is one male plant can mess up the whole operation. Yeah. And that put into perspective for me like, Oh, this is why Yeah. And that answers your question of why.

And of course, we have solved that we solve that now with the baby mama culture and Planned Parenthood. Yes. Go ahead, do whatever you got to do, but we'll take care of it.

But that didn't solve the problem of the males spreading his seed was far and wide. That's why the black male is seeing the way he's seen as a huge problem as a quote unquote, super spreader. Yes. Because you can use and there's many ways you can impregnate. You could go wow, one person one. And that's why I did the horticulture analogy. Because one plant can ruin you know, saying 100 female plants, if that's not your goal, but that's that's how they looked at it. So I got one last
clip before we go into break. And this kind of illustrates what Iron Carroll who was played by Darren caribou, Sally him, him his mother were saying, how this kind of thing kicked off when, when black women first interacted with the slave
¶ How it kicked off
master, and this is I don't know what movies is from somebody, I found a clip on YouTube. Please, please, if you recognize this clip, please send me an email or whatever, contact me. But this is the tragic mulatto. Oh,
and you don't owe them anything. You don't mean anything to them? Just using you think I know what did he want you to get while you're out there? Like what did they want you to kill me? Your second trip I said it's my 12th I know what goes on down there in the hole without asking anybody. I know. They plant a plant. I never cared about it didn't they always tried to revolt I do the same thing and that place. But I'm not in that place. Even Are you but I'm a part of them makes
no difference. For people want manners. And you and I. We want to same thing. Those people out there. They will die for that drive. We don't want to die for anything. We want to live for ourselves. Maybe it's a very great or noble. But that's the way we are both of us. It makes you so sure I'm like that. You gave yourself to me for the first time for a few trinkets. You sold them all out. You became slaves call it white man's trash just I know you will.

And just to go back to the Drake situation that is one of the things Drake appears to be doing is to have his way with black women. And notice the N net sexual aspect of it. If you notice like him mistakes he read together. It's like you know you you like first like you're saying the stereotypes. You the only way you do it black women is the further stereotype. You know, and that's that's one of the knocks against him. But I just want to I just wanted to lay it out there. That's the
first block. That's the interracial, non white woman and a white man. I'm

already exhausted. I'm exhausted already from the show. Oh, man. I know. I know. By the way, I figured out how I knew about that movie. Diane Diane Carroll movie. This is yeah, this is weird. You know, I'll be 60 in September so for some reason weird things come back to me from from my life might several stages. I was up for a role in a television show with her in like Oh, I think it must have been around that time or maybe it was that was being made it was from that was from
2000 You said yes. And and so I remember watching that to get an idea of of the kind of work she was now of course that never panned out. But I was supposed to be like a love interest or something. Yeah, okay. Anyway, it's kind of irrelevant, but I've just Hawai I've no I've seen this I've seen this thing. Great actress, fantastic actress. Alright, let's thanks for people. Yeah, please because I'm I'm pumped
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So we start the last block off with legal ramifications of interracial marriage, we're going to pick up this was an interracial marriage but this also shows from the non
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white man in the White woman how legislation was created and used, and this is part of assault for black boxer.
Jack Johnson loved the limelight and the controversy which surrounded him. He was born in 1878, a black man living in a country ruled by white people. In 19 Oh wait, Johnson became the first African American to win the world heavyweight boxing crown. The film with his fight against Canadian Tommy Burns was stuff before Johnson's knockout punch. Many argue it was done to shield viewers from the sight of a
black man beating a white man. Johnson generated just as much if not more publicity outside the boxing ring, who refused to hide his relationships with white women, which many found outrageous in the US at a time of widespread racial segregation, it would prove to be his undoing. In 1912 Chicago police arrested Johnson for violating the men act. The federal legislation bans the transportation of women across
state borders for immoral purposes. A law intended to stop young girls from being lured into prostitution

Wow doesn't that just sound like the beef?

Yeah and that's what did he is facing that's how they got our Kelly is flying girls out and it's very loose with it with the nose cases I mean especially our Kelly he was definitely a creep did he is to be determined because you're innocent until proven guilty in this system he hasn't even been charged with anything whatever he's just won't say you're innocent until proven guilty so I can't but in but this is how
it works. They create it they use the law created a law to man act to take Jack Johnson down now Could it be because he was bad for business? You know saying knocking a white camera yeah, or no stand being a white women. But this goes to show you when the system starts to come at you. Justice is a this this form of justice ain't really justice. Now I can say I don't I don't know. What the You know, saying the details was with his
case. But definitely they um, they took him down. Yeah, they took him down and they ruined his career actually, but and we you said it and I wanted to see because yeah, this is how easy it is. We got a flight log. Hello. And it's

back we're holding back just until we need it.

Yeah, we got man. We got a man on the books and we got a flight log that we're still waiting on who names was on it? Well, somehow we can't get new people arrested. You know, we've whoever we want to take down if you flew somebody out and offered to pay them money and that's the thing they are using against daily they've been hyping it up. Just saying just to go there for a minute of you know, sex worker sex worker, they kept using this term. Yeah.

Because then then you come into illegality, you know?

Right. And that definitions for your moral but what means the word?

What did did he do? Did he start living beyond his britches? What did he do? To be?

Sometimes I used to live past usefulness. Like we no longer you no longer know any good. Does we need to take attention elsewhere. You got to ask yourself what's going on? While we're talking about this assignment? What is beef? What's going on? Why'd why this distraction is going on?

Well, Taylor Swift and the other witches of Hollywood are corrupting our children. Yeah, that that. That's my guess.

I'm just saying like, that's the whole thing. Like it's always you know, what is going on with the other hand when we're doing these magic tricks. And it like says to be saying TBD with DD, but it's still hanging out there. And that's the problem with Drake because now They're calling him P GZ. That he was saying like so. Sorry lumping them all together. And in we're gonna I'm gonna show you later that he
thinks he has. He has privilege, but privilege saying the same thing as being a supreme and he's gonna find that out sooner or later if if they want that to happen. Let's go and get to the second part of the the Jack Johnson clue. In
1912 Chicago police arrested Johnson for violating the men act. The federal legislation banned the transportation of women across state borders for immoral purposes. The law intended to stop young girls from being lured into prostitution. But federal agents were determined to use it against Johnson. In a prosecution many saw as punishment for a high profile black man having a relationship
with a white woman. Bell Schreiber testified against him for white prostitute who had also been Johnson's girlfriend on and off for four years. Johnson pleaded not guilty but was convicted and sentenced to one year and one day in prison. After his release, Johnson tried to renew his boxing career, but never regained his title nor his face and reputation. He died in a car crash in 1946. At the age of 68.
We need to erase this act of racism that sent an American citizen to prison on a trumped up charge. McCain was behind similar unsuccessful attempts to pass legislation on a pardon for Johnson in 2004. And 2008. McCain's renewed push this year could see Johnson pardoned by Barack Obama, the man who defeated McCain in last year's general election and became the first black president of the United States.

Did he Did he think it was actually Trump? That pardon? Jack Johnson? Q fact checked me. I think it was trancing. That's

a good point. I

believe if I'm about 95% Sure, sure. Jack Johnson. He made a big deal out. Let me see.

Yes. Yes, yes. Well, yeah. 2018. Yes. Yeah.

So even Obama couldn't he couldn't do that. It seems bipartisan because you had John McCain and his clip pushing for it. Wow. Why didn't Obama pull the trigger on it? You know, did he not? It's

amazing how men in America in any position. It's always the sex. It's always we got trumpet in court right now.

Right?

It's always that number. Did you Did you were you a good leader? Well, you're good boxer. Were you good hip hop or? No, it's it always comes down to like what you did there?

I think because you can define it any way you want to your moral means is like, that's kind of vague term. And some of those I won't say strange. unorthodox sex practices, yes. That are are deemed acceptable now. I mean, you got the dog thing going, you know, not the actual dog but it was the guy was the new killer. He was over the nucleus, the bald headed guy that dress like a woman. Yeah.

Yeah, the dog collar was the whole thing. You

got furries. You're saying all kinds, which I can say if he's legal. Do you think it's I'm not I'm not a player hater. You know, saying but that could be put out in public and forced on you to accept. But if he's something you know, as far as, like you said, with Trump, paying somebody not to whatever. I don't know what they I really didn't get caught up in that whole stormy Daniels thing. I think he paid her something. Right. What are we doing here? We got tic tock. We got a knot
tic TOCs give me only fans. And we'll say like this. I want to say something else. Doing Jack Johnson's Tom, there was a thing called white slavery. for white women were being used for prostitution and up. Super high rate. We're at that point again. With tick tock, tick tock and and fans. Yes. So yeah, so don't be surprised if you see a lot of human trafficking. Talk kicked up. I'm going to skip 20 and 21. Can we talk what I want to talk
about there? We've talked about earlier in the show, so just be beating a dead horse. All right. The point I'm making is Andrew Tate die. Yeah. Well, I know the biracial man who was given white privilege. He was given that white privilege of being racially ambiguous. You know, top gee, this guy, he's a kickboxer. That's why it had that Jack Johnson kind of parallel going there. Hmm, He's accused of using the Loverboy method. Now this is him and Piers Morgan, going back and
¶ Lover Boy?
forth about what the Loverboy method is. He
deployed the Loverboy method where you would make women fall in love with you. You would then persuade them to do webcam. Webcam stuff, right? Tick tock. Okay, but wait, it's called it webcam stuff, right? Let's not call it that the indictment is about tick tock. Okay. What would you make the women do? Or what would they do with you? I don't make anybody do anything. Okay. All right. Let's
talk about the Loverboy methods. So it's very interesting. Let's imagine the matrix is pissed off within set individual was telling too much truth. Nobody's listening to him, and they decide they're not attacking the sexual assault claims. They say, Ah, he's making women do what we found conversations where he gave advice on how to go viral on Tiktok. He's making women do tick tock, but he isn't being horrible to them. He's not hitting them. He's not being mean to them. So what can we do?
Let's use the Loverboy method. If I was abusive, and mean, they wouldn't say Loverboy method you don't Loverboy method means being nice.

I didn't realize that he that his dad was an international chess master,

and analytic work for the CI allegedly. Oh, makes

nothing but sense. Yeah. Which

him him and Drake once again, while I'm covering this, him and Drake have a lot of parallels. I see that now of the I mean, I think Drake album was called self certify Loverboy. If I'm not a one hit song or album. You see, you see what's going on? You see what's going on here? Yeah. And the Loverboy method on his face. If you want to say okay, somebody
manipulated somebody to do something. If we're talking under age, yes, I mean, course if we talk or age or any method is it should be a crime, and you're saying you should get you Nirma but I don't think

that I don't think that was any of the allegations about uh, no,

that's what that the Loverboy method is the end around for consent? Like, yeah, oh, she gave consent. But it was under a

spell of niceness. Well,

to be frank, she was getting. She was stigmatized. That's what it means. Let's just put, Let's call a spade a spade. That's No, honestly, that's what it was. She was hypnotized by his sex. That's a nice way to put it Loverboy method, but that's a very slippery slope of when you get somebody to do something, or you know, whatever, you know, like being on Tik Tok? Was that a crime? No, because we see, we shouldn't be somebody that stuff should be a crime. But I mean, from my
standards, and me having daughters Yeah. But if it's not a crown, and she gave consent, allowing a person to come back later, and say, Yeah, I gave consent. But it was under. I was hypnotized. I

mean, come on, oh, this, the whole thing is stupid. If we got drag queens going in having children stick dollar bills in their panties, in that part rain school, in libraries, and he's come on, it's like, what are we talking about? That's

meant to keep you off kilter. But this Loverboy method is, um, I would say, is basically what they accused Jack Johnson of pretty much. You know, it was consent. But you know, it's like, it's like a 2.0 with a man act. Like we get if you just took cross border, you were saying, would actually be kidnapping to be honest with, you know, like, if you took her against the wheel that should be kidnapping. Now, you don't need another law for it. But this is if you gave consent, then we can
go back in him. You will. And let me make it clear. I am no Andrew tight fan or defense lawyer. But I see the setup. When you create these loopholes. You know, of Loverboy method. If that's the case that Thomas Jefferson was using the Loverboy method, because you said Sally Hemings gay consent.

On Musk uses the Loverboy method. Well,

let's listen to 23 I mean, we can go. We'll pick up 24 quickly after that,
being nice. He was nice and polite and kind and they really liked him as a person, and he told them how to do today. Boy, of course, that's double the level boy method. Absolutely love. A boy method is where perpetrators wound victims with the prospect of a loving relationship until they can be forced into abusive situations or a form of slavery. This is God that's actually what it means.
The Loverboy method is being nice to people so that you work together effectively what they're trying to say here, I was nice to girls who asked me for Tiktok advice, and they sang us a Loverboy method. I didn't beat them into doing Tik Tok. I didn't force them. I didn't threaten them. In fact, I was like, Dude, you're very pretty. You can be pretty famous any element of coercion. How can there be and what does that even mean? Let's be professionals here.
What does that even what do you think coercion? I was coerced into this interview, you came along to me and say, want to kill us? Don't tell me the bully. MSM said, Andrew, you've got to do an interview, you're not gonna find a way to remain how to do it. Or use the Loverboy method. You said sir, Loverboy, man, yeah.

Good point.

If you've because that definition, you would hurt and you forced her at that point where force happened? We got crowded, but crying the brakes, right? You don't need the wound part to it. Cuz that's a very slippery slope. That's kind of like when they had those rate laws. And I'm sure YouTube will kill me for that. Well, but we don't do great around here. He was saying, but you had that law on the book to say after the fact. You could rescind consent. That's a very, because I got
sued. You will say like, that's a very dangerous and that's what my mom told me. You're saying, Rod not to miss interracially. Can you?

Especially Can you not say rape? Or I'm not YouTube anymore? No,

you got to say great. And you had to say a PDF file.

PDF file? Yes. Oh, for PDF file.

Yeah, I got. Yes. I'm just giving people we don't do that. But I'll just give you the best lingo of where you want to. If you want to be on YouTube. Yeah. Well, if you ever been on YouTube be monetized. You mean if you're not monetized, don't mess with your whatever you're saying. Okay, yeah. They'll just steal your money.

They're stealing your money no matter what.

Oh, well. Yeah, that that these laws, I believe are written because of black men, and I'm just gonna keep it I'm just gonna keep it 100 with you. I can't I'll be lying to myself. Which is disrespecting myself? If I didn't see any other way? The same thing with Jack Johnson. The same thing with demand act. We should have everybody on Epstein's flight log kit with the man at because exactly what they were doing. Well,

then won't. Epstein of course did get hit with the man act.

I'm talking about everybody was on that plane with him. Because that's what you were flying. It was like, I'm sure there was women on the plane. We do. Yeah, so let's go ahead and do that. But let's go to show you. When I was listening to this, I was like, Oh, didn't Piers Morgan do the Loverboy method.

Yeah, I guess 24 Here we go.
The Genesis in my relationship with Meghan Markel was I started following a bunch of stars from suits on Twitter. And she was one of them because I loved suits. And I thought about four of them. And the moment I follow Megan Markel, I get a direct message from her saying, Oh my God, I'm such a big fan. You know, blah, blah, blah. Okay, very nice. Start to correspond with her. We get on very well. We're talking about suits plotline, she starts giving me a few juicy bones of
plotlines to come. And then Megan says, I'm coming to London to watch a few meetings but to watch Serena Williams, so great friend, play at Wimbledon, in the tennis tournament. Do you want to meet up and I'll say, Yes, I would love to meet up. Why don't you come to my local pub, the Scarsdale Tavern in Kensington who would know what a fateful night that was? Because she went from me here to her first proper date with Prince Harry. Okay, how do you know that? I know that because she
spent three, four more days and two nights with Harry. And three, four months later, it all came up. Harry dating actress and I went which address what what? What, what? And then it said they befriended each other in the last week of June, when she was here to see her friend Serena Williams playing tennis. I was like, Yes. And then he went they went out on like a Thursday night or whatever it was to five half history. I went
Yes. I know that because I put her in an Uber from this pub to five orphan Street.

Well done Pierce.

Yeah. Yeah, it was appears was it you flew her out? Yeah. Yeah. Trying to

try new her Yeah, and helping him for financial gain. Right.

So we got to be careful with that appears as a slippery slope. They can be easily turned back around on you. And once again, I have to say these have doors. If you're a creep, you need to be lot to me be locked up for a very long time. But I also have a son. And it's like, we got to be careful with these laws and their interpretations of them. law should be very clear and concise and not have these gray areas in them that can be used and weaponized against people. And
law should be leveraged the same way. Yeah.

Well, unfortunately, our Justice Department has wide interpretation of all laws at this moment. So no one is safe.

No one is safe. Now, we have to go to Mr. OJ Simpson. Now. Yes. And I'm sure people are already up on the edge of their seat. OJ Simpson. Now. I want to think people think about something for a minute. First of all, I think OJ didn't do it. Because I think OJ did do it. They would have had a
¶ OJ
documentary outright now laying out even afterwards, because they locked them up. I mean, they can do whatever you want to. We're saying they show you that. Even when he beat the first case, they locked them up for stealing his own stuff. Right? They will have a because you know what I did that Michael did that to Michael Jackson. He beat the case. But they put that documentary out of this is how we did it kind of thing. Oprah
played a role in it. I think if OJ would have done it, they would have had a very clear point by point documentary or movie that laid out specifically like how he did it. I don't think he did it.

I mean, I've always thought he was covering up for a son. Right?

Can he be involved? Could it be a debt he owed or they owe to whoever? I don't know. But I don't think he did. You know, and with that said, I'll have to say this. OJ Simpson proves America is not over a black man being with a white woman. Because if Nicole Brown Simpson had been black,

oh, it wouldn't have been such a big deal. Exactly.

The reason why it was such a big deal for two reasons. He allegedly was accused of murdering a blond hair and this is matters are Bly hair. Beautiful white woman. And if you don't think that matters, go look and see which kidnap cases they report and which ones they don't report on the news. So that was a problem in itself, too. He also was accused and allegedly murdering a Jewish man. Yes. Nobody talks about that part. Very little. Yeah. This is why the media was on his
head. And the way they were Yeah. Yeah, people to pay attention to that. So that's why to this day, and net like, I when I was working on this case, OJ Simpson passed away. I saw I'm gonna see what the rationale is. Two things I noticed one, that racism that animosity bought up like it happened yesterday. And from weird places, from talking about from hip hop and are saying Hip Hop media, like the same papers that write about King Vaughn killing other black men. Is he a serial
killer? is like, nobody cares. Like that goes to show you is not the killing. That's the problem. Well,

what I noticed when when OJ passed is that people and it was kind of ancillary. I wasn't really very focused on it. So just the stuff that bubbled up enough for me to notice was the jurors and interviewing the jurors. Oh, yeah. No, we were we're gonna let him walk didn't matter if he did it. We're gonna let them walk. That was kind of the narrative that was coming out of mainstream news on that.

The second thing I noticed 9596 When it happened, he got a beat the case. He didn't do it up until he passed away. The sentiment amongst black people is he did it but he got away. All of a sudden, whenever racism came out when he passed away, now all of a sudden, this is why I said it's react. It was the counterculture. It was like Nah, he didn't do it again. Oh, wait, hold on. Y'all were the same ones. Saying he did do it when he got away with it. Now he
didn't do it again. See how reactive to race this whole thing is?

For some time, yes, for such a time as this

right and death. I don't know if people will not say I'm standing on warrants people episode. They're creating their manufacturing racist and racism, anti

network racial tension racial, right?

They have to keep it going. They had to find every little. I think this is why Elon is letting go the way it is. Because x is not what a racism machine.

Thank you. That's what I keep saying people like, Oh, he's so great. He's the best. I'm like, no, no, it's not good.

I wouldn't say he's a great or he's the best, but he's necessary because guess what he's letting all this sentiment this underlying, are open to open. Let it all out. Let it all be if you don't like a person, go for it. You know, don't don't hide it, you know, don't. But what's happening is, I'm seeing all stories like OJ Simpson be rehashed. It's like that was something that was discussed five years ago, these old videos going both ways. And it's just breaks, you're saying people of
different races trying to one up each other. Now let's go back OJ
¶ Racial Tension Exploited
Simpson because I want to go on to this clip. And this was released after he passed. This is what you really alluded to about the jurors, racial tensions exploited
now to another trial. This one the trial of the century back in the headlines tonight, new revelations about OJ his dream team of lawyers and how they worked the prosecutors and the jury to their advantage. And then there was that glove, it is all in a new documentary. And ABC is Juju Chang is on this case that still grips the country. The trial of the century like you've never seen it before. From the infamous chase to the bloody glove that was never supposed to
be tried on. I didn't want to do it. I mean, I knew it was a mistake. I said that the latex is gonna screw up the fifth, they've shrunk. And the rest is history history. If it doesn't fit, you must acquit violate and a closer look at the jury who found the football superhero not guilty of killing his ex wife, the LA County DA breaking his silence after 21 years. My belief is they already had their minds made up before they went in and began deliberation.

Yeah, yeah, that's that's the stuff that I saw. Yeah.

And the thing I said about OJ my thing I say about him is the other thing that pissed off pissed him off about OJ is that even when he lost the second time when when they locked him up, but still in his own stuff. He didn't show him that they got to him. That's one thing about this system. If you holler your scream, and you know and cry, they will okay well yeah, we're happy now. But he went in took his time came out and like nothing happened.

Yeah, he and they threw the book at him to like nine years or something.

He made game 33 Hello,

hello. Hello.

He did not on a 33 which my only point is this and this is why I can't understand is that if you want to look at murderers Barack Obama is far bigger murder and the OJ Simpson

the drone president

I mean if you just want to say okay just do same race and who the bigger murderer but oh you drop bombs out the sky and brown people that's okay. Or we celebrate Black men killing other black man we'll give you a record do it that's fine. Yeah. That goes to show you is not about who the killing is about who you kill. And that was Oh Jays biggest sin. And like I said, I don't think he did it. If he did do it, he's dead now. He did nine. Um, it is what it is. But my issue is
like, it's the point of we can't pretend like this. Sentiment doesn't happen. Is not there. Is there follow? We're

definitely pretending it doesn't mean we're definitely pretending that this no longer is a thing. And it's not a recognition of what it is. People are people think that oh, it's just there's just racist in the world. They don't quite understand what's going on.

It's the operating system you have to download it is not out there is in you, if you let it you know and that's the thing like ah, I have to be honest with myself. I had to be honest with people are taught to Now sometimes you had to be more direct because the more confusing is you know, saying the more direct you have to be. It's kind of like throwing cold water on people. It's like, like you're Candidate you're saying like you're you're out of your mind. And like right now, let me like,

but it's hard for people when you talk about I mean, we've I implore people to go back and listen to some of these earlier episodes when we talk about white supremacy. It's not about skin color. You know what they hear? They hear white, is

the system, the system first of all of white supremacy. They go right to white? Well, as you say, Yeah. And I'm concerned with the system of supremacy. I don't care what color it is, or who's doing it. It could be the supremacy of blue eyed people, or green eyed people, or a one legged people or you know, saying humpbacks, if you're wielding have a system designed to oppress and mistreat people, we need to get rid of that. Or if you're doing it to lean into
it. Please be honest about it. That's what that's my point. We can't get anywhere unless you're honest about like, if you said, You know what, Mo, I think OJ did it. That's just what you believe. And this is what this show is built around. I can't be offended and get my emotion about what you believe. And I appreciate you that you're honest with me, you will say like, that's, that's all we have to do. Now, okay, you believe
that I believe this, you know, saying this, okay. The world will come to you.

Yeah, but social media doesn't let that conversation actually stop there. Because everyone's so safe. We're so safe to say and people are frauds. Yeah. People are broken brother. That's what I'm seeing broken pizza, broken people break people.

So I go, we talked about the OJ thing. Well, it's, it's a little bit funny about the lawyers and how they did this. They just listen to the second clip. We don't have to talk about it. What this is, this is this is Laureus for you
on their field trip to OJS home where the majority African American jury thought they got a glimpse of his life. And

what we did that day is creating an illusion.
We took all of his white friends down, or all of his black people. The pictures he probably had never seen before. If we had had a Latin jury, we would have had a picture of in a sombrero, there would have been a mariachi band out front. We would have had a pina colada at the upper staircase. That whitewashing of OJ is now demolished to state here on Rockingham symbolizes the racially polarizing defense strategy, exploiting decades of racial tensions with the LAPD to
win that not guilty verdict. Cecilia? Juju. Thank you and OJ Simpson Made in America premieres tonight at nine Eastern on ABC.

I so it's so fun. I got to tell you a story. Friend of mine has a legal case and it's it's he's being railroaded. And he's a doctor. And he I think he's gonna be okay. But it's it's just like, you know, he's, you know, he's an orange person. So, you know, that's why the justice is all over him, then, and but I think Justice will prevail. But it's, it's a it's a medical case. And so I've been asked to be a potential character witness, which I am now I'm happy to do this. And so
I sit with the lawyers, and I talk about an episode. And he's a doctor where we had a restaurant. And you know, it's a character witness, right. And there was a child who no one noticed this child was choking, he, he springs into action, save this kid life right there in front of my eyes, you know, like, seven, eight year old girl. And so I tell the story to the lawyers, but they I realized pretty quickly, they've already heard the story maybe from somebody else. And then the
lawyer says that talking amongst each other. Do you think it would make a difference if if he said that it was a black girl? And I'm like, there you go, man. This is exactly our roles and justice. And we got to make them out. That's right. That's right. It's like Oh, holy moly. Yeah, I felt pretty creepy when they said that, but that's the legal system. Legal System. Yep.

So now we got to get a little nearly in the show.
¶ Nellie: Where we're at today

Of course, flowers for fuller. Yeah.

Oh, this he explained why it went from the Jack Johnson. Destroy black man if we were the white woman to where we're at today. These next two clips, it's 27.
Oh, it may not be dangerous in this day and time depends on where you are. In fact, the white supremacist at one time would hang a black person. Shoot him. run him down. I mean, and kill him. Oh stringing him up to a tree. Just thinking about looking at a white woman. Now, like a ladder Muhammad said, I mean, I mentioned one name. He said goes, I heard him say this many years ago. So he now they will let you for not being with them. Jason, a white woman, and
whatnot. What's that all about? Why this sudden change? And as I came through to conclusion is a part of the new white supremacist replan stage of racism.

We have an upgrade, and upgrade to the software, you

have to, you have to, like I said, when that television came, that change a lot of stuff. Now, just like when the smartphone came, and social media came where we saw technology upgrades, the system has to get an upgrade. Because like we can't do well, for example, with Rodney King. It's like we got camcorders out here now, you can't can't do what you
used to do. Because somebody might be recording. Yeah. So every time you get an upgrade to this system, upgrade to technology, you have to upgrade the system to become more refined. And one other thing I want to talk about about race confusion, because I didn't want to make this solely by the Kenji
¶ A genetic harvesting Op?
Lamar thing, because it's not. I want to talk about this interracial dating with athletes, black athletes. I am a firm believer. This is a genetic. How do I put it on eggs? It's a genetic harvesting operation.

I saw that I saw that tweet. Yes. I'm a

firm believer that you take the we know we've talked about the with the academic, you know, bind the smartest ones, the Talent Team, you know, get them, put them on a fast track to become leaders. And then send them off to white schools, quote unquote, white schools, Ivy League, that kind of thing. Same thing with athletes. Let's get them. Let's fight as well. I think that's the whole point of sports, is
find the ones who can run the fastest jump the highest. Once they become 1617 years old, they go off to prep schools wishes once I just was talking about the options, once you become further and further up the ladder, your options get fewer and fewer. Now, you're gonna you're gonna have to fight as he was saying, like, as a young man, you're gonna find a woman. But now your options like maybe black women's like one out of 10 one out of 20 The likelihood is you're going to where you're
gonna take, you know, we're gonna go the odds. And they set up this way. What does that do now you have, for instance, Patrick mahomes. Let's go there for me. He's dead. Man, a white woman had Patrick mahomes He's biracial. Passionate Monroe's married a white woman. Oh, so

what you're saying is we're breeding the next generation of top athletes.

Yeah, what's your harvest in the DNA? Yes. And then when you look around all the passion, my home dad great, great grandkids it's gonna be our great great grandkids I'll be white. But they had that so so we're just gonna say next the premier athletic. Oh,

it's eugenics. Yeah. Like it is great. And he's in that's

what D one sports is all about? Because they scout and scoured the whole United States and the globe they go around the go the brain no town that people here even

even Africa get some big freaks out of Africa.

Right but you don't see that go the other way. He's like a my quarterbacks whatever they are saying they have women like them. But yeah, and this is what they do. They I see put you isolates you in these predominate, I cannot wait to one. I went to a predominantly white college for a year. And I was the fish out of water. I only went school four days a week. It was so strange to me. You're saying going like, because it was maybe 3%. Black at best. And almost all
athletes. So they had their own little culture and its own little group. Hello, who I hang out with, you know, Okay, y'all doing today. So whatever you're saying doing your sports activities. And but I went there because where my parents wouldn't school, you're saying? Because they actually went back to school in the 30s. And that was the only campus that had apartments where you could bring your kids with, right? Yes.

I remember you telling me that. Yeah. So that

was the reason why they went there. But yeah, so I went there. I was like, I tried to keep the family tradition. Like I can't do this. Because culturally I was This water out of place. Yeah. Yeah. So I'm just telling you, that's how it works. And then you say you, these these young men are going to do what young men do and get with what's available. But it's this strategy. One you harvest in the DNA and the genetic, but
he also taking the money. Yeah, I'll give you $250 million because you don't get it right back

into the system. Yeah. What do you think

Obama's great grandkids are gonna look like? This is keep it 100 Here. Yeah, we know. Yeah. Well, you have the Obama is, like, 50 years from now celebrating Obama, whatever. It was a it's gonna be a whole bunch of lightly melanated people.

Now, you know that I still think that these kids are Stevie Wonder and Scottie Pippen, his kids, I don't think they're Obama's kids. But that's,

of course, Mary White.

That's my opinion. But

they still had to marry Why is what I'm saying. To be? And it's not they have to, is when you go to school, and I'm speaking from my standpoint, like, with my kids, if we live you know, if I didn't tell my kids, you know, saying the importance of who they are. And they shouldn't feel ashamed of it, and they should use and love themselves. It might go another way. If you're not saying I

of course, of course. And I get

backlash, like I say I get no you can't tell your kid why I cannot tell my kids that by everybody else does. I'm sure any is tell their kids that agents tell their kids that we know fact Hispanic people tell their kid like all of a sudden I can't say that. That's hateful. Do you know it's not hateful? I love myself. Look at me, you say? Do you

know what the first interracial kiss was on television? What

was that? I do not. Star Trek.

Who was it? It was Captain Kirk William Shatner with hoorah. Right. 1968. intergalactic?

Yes, right.

That's right. Interracial intergalactic kiss.

That's right. And you know what? Also did that avatar?

Yes. Yeah. Although I never saw it. We've talked about it. Yeah,

yeah, Avatar, he got into the blue man and blue people. Yeah, internally. But yeah, that's that's the thing. And we just got it. Like I said, we have to be honest about it. Because honestly, and I'm going to just, like, get to the point where I'm what I'm trying to say here. We should if you choose to have biracial children understand that the system don't care about their feelings. And they're going to be confused because the system was created on a color based system. And I
had a word for it. It was mono chromatic. How was it? It was like monochromatic Matic Arcor is like basically, it's like a color, monarchy. A single color monarchy is what we're in. By the rule system, that's all it is. And if you understand that you you're kyiv's you have to take care, because they're not going to be accepted in certain circles. And this is why we have these kids on college campuses now. Because what ends up happening is they grow up in bubbles where people don't see
color as they shouldn't. I mean, that's the right thing to do. You shouldn't see color. You know, and then they get to college, and then they had that first experience where they're treated black.

Now what do you what do you think about the trend in colleges where there's black only commencement ceremonies, black only dormitories? I

say this if you want to go to HBCU Yeah. How are you going to go somewhere so I'm at a predominantly white school well, I want to have our black all black graduation thing go to HBCU you can't impose your will on other people to get quinoa I say that because I'm fair. That's like white people going to a HBCU and saying they want to have an all white.

Yeah, that would fly.

See how fair works use it like it goes both ways. Now you can not that would not be accepted at all. It's like why did you come here? But you know what people like well, I get a better education. IV.

Powell not so sure about out that,

don't you get the same internet and the same books. That's the see that's that's that's that downward thinking of I can't get a kind of education over there. If you want to be educated, you can get education wherever you want to. But like I said, I don't want to be a belabor the point. But my whole point of all of this is, I feel for Drake. I honestly do. I sincerely feel for him is not a fakeness because that will be the most confusing thing for me because I experienced that with
two black parents. Yeah, one side the family say like, oh, you're like your other side of the family. You know, and you go over there like, No, you like your other side of the family. Oh, wow. Yeah, cuz they were culturally you're saying a little bit different once that the family is a little bit more country.

We never seen the Fresh Prince. We never saw that. That argument. Was that on Fresh Prince of Bel Air. argument about your side of the family, my side of the family? Didn't they switch out? Mom's at a certain point? You got a light skinned mom.

Yeah. You didn't see it there. But good case, though. It was like Martin, because Martin Teesha Campbell. boozy.

That's true. That's true. Yeah.

So you have them saying like, we're not the system's not fair. But think thinking that you're going to impose your will on a system to mate you're saying like, that's not fair to kids. And I honestly believe that keep letting the keys choose, you know, making them black. That's not fair to do. Making them black, you know, like, what did I How do you do that? No, that's insane. I just I feel empathy for biracial people. Because they have a lot of biracial people do a lot of
great things for black people. But if they you know, if they choose to go white, you know, you're trying to be white. It's like, how do I have white? What do you want me to do? You say like, Yeah,

well, there's a lot to feel for Drake about I mean, Canadian, I mean, he's all these. These.

Yeah, he's not even like white white list. The other thing is like so

I kid Canadians I kid.

So I was gonna go past nearly full that thing. Um, nearly Fuller, it talks more about the how the system works. Dr. Francis, Chris Wilson, wish she was his counterpart. And really the inspiration for him to write the book. I mean, he had a bunch of manuscripts but she was like, You need to write a book, you need to write a book, you need to write a book because that goes to show you you're saying the man and woman they need each other, you know, saying they that unit is needed.
Those two forces are needed together. She spoke or more about the why how the system works, and what makes them why, why it was the way it was. Here. She's speaking on interracial marriage and relationships
with white women have been forbidden to black men by oppression. If the black man has access to the white woman that
¶ Why it works the way it does
that will make them feel more psychologically free.
It will for them. Let's say for example, if you tell me for instance, psychologically functionally, no, it's a fantasy and then it's a psychosis In other words, if you are operating just like they tell us that there is a loss of functioning if you are functioning on something that is not reality, then you've had it Okay, now but this is something that the white supremacy system understands you said I'm saying they understand when we programmed these victims to feel
that if they get a white woman they will have they will have it like a black cat told me who was graduating from graduate school at Harvard that marrying a white woman was a part of the Harvard degree in other words I really am alright, I think that just like it programs a black gonna say alright, if you have a white
man, that really means that you are in nonsense. Do you see I'm saying because white supremacy is going on and white supremacy will go on and victimize your children and your offsprings irrespective of what you were doing in your bedroom. And the white supremacist system further would like the non white and the black man to think that his phallus or his penis if you will, is equal to an M 16 rifle which is what he maintains power Yeah.

Wow. Yeah, there's a lot there. But that's that's yeah, we'll let you as the other floor was saying we'll let you have you know, one of our women because as refined we can't do it like we did before. Now we got to we got to put the window dressing on it. And as I was saying before is that there's a drain effect. You have the talent going out, you have the finance going out, you have the genetics going out. And I'm a firm believer, it doesn't come back. In doesn't come as weak.
That's what we have to be honest about. It doesn't come back. And that's why I have the fear of a loss, people being a brand out, for lack of better word. And I would understand why the system would do that. Because we talked about atonement, then we say, well, we don't know who we are. And we really don't owe anybody. Oh,

oh, no, this was just bleed all the way past reparations.

It'll, it'll eliminate it. Because because you are saying on left? Well, it will be people here and there'll be black, but they won't have a claim. And this is why you're bringing the not eight off black people here. It's like, yeah, let them come here. Can we can't wake up and there'll be no black people here. That'll be to start and there's that'd be too much. But I was looking at New York and Pittsburgh, they were talking about the amount of black population is dwindling?
By Have you got to New York now you won't bump into Harley Athos person. No, it's putting out black people. But they're here, you know, after slavery, Jim Crow. So you have the appearance of it, you know, black people being here, but you don't have the actual Adolf people here. And that's a real concern. I mean, I'd like to say I may be over concern, but that also lets me know,

I think you're I think you're spot on with your concern. I think the issue is, first, that this goes back to early, early Mofaz episodes, you got to restore the black family. Without that is there's no hope.

Correct. And that's, that's what this is the whole system. They don't they don't want to be they don't want to have that. They don't want to have this system. I mean, they that family, this family system, they don't want to now know or anyone know, for anyone. Because the goal, we're gonna get to the goal of ending with this goes like, it starts with us people. This only starts with us. Next, it'll be this.

Next is already here. Mo is already here. Next is here, dude. They got us chopping off our kids body parts. It's here. Yeah.

So this is the last clip where we do another break. And this is a throwback show ADA. And this is Raymond Haysbert, and he talks about the brain drain, I will talk about his genetic drain the black with a brain drain that happens in the black community, there
has been a drainage challenge. Those who are able to escape the ghetto, get a good education, and immediately go to work for Boeing, IBM, Dell, whoever, that dreams, talent, brain power from my from that same market. So if you look at it as a market, we've got a lot of challenges. And so therefore, the Small Business got a lot of challenges, because you deal with people that don't have the money and won't conserve the
money. So the black consumer therefore gets less for their money, because they should have doubled duty dollars as the other communities that is not only get the shoes that you need, but you also bolster your community. We get to choose not to commute.

Yeah. So that clip speaks for itself. We can go ahead and thanks for more people. Unless you got something to say no, no,

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And with that said we're going to go back to throwback clip for all the way to number nine. And I've been talking about this topic since man I know and we've heard several throwback clips from several different shows. Just how concerning this and by let Professor Kevin Brown. Give us
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further details. And we're
seeing substantial increases to in black multiracial that is blacks with a non black parent black white parented black Asian parentage. Those percentages are set to increase by 80% between 2010 and 2020. We're now seeing substantial, interracial Marriage among the black slash African American population in the United States. So you can see here 1970 Of All Blacks who were married, only 1.1% were married outside of the race, that increases to 2.4% in
19 84.1%, in 19 97%, in 2000, in 2010, it increases to 9%. But But let me add, this is the All Blacks who are married. So younger people, the ones in the prime count varying ages are even much more likely to marry across the race. In 2012, for example, one in four black males that married 25%, married outside of the race for black women was about 9.3%. And we continue to see that black males are two to three times more
likely to marry outside of the race. If these current content trends continue, within a generation or two, a majority of the black population in the United States will actually be mixed race. And because they're mixed race, they will more and more assert an identity that's different from that of African Americans.

I should probably say at this point, that this is not a phenomenon that's only in America. The country I grew up in the Netherlands, which is you know, it's white bread, white, white, non immigration country, might the entire time I grew up, that changed in the mid 90s. And this is part of clearly part of a world government type system. They just start importing people from brown people from all kinds, mainly Muslims. Turkey, Morocco has been has been most recent. But really, it's now 50
More than the cities are more than 50%. Brown. And the end the whole country is becoming a mixed race country.

Obtain the whole country.

What do you mean? The top? Yes, okay. Agree. Yes.

That's the goal. Everybody is in it's not in the top, you're right. You're gonna be a nice, nice golden brown color using it like you get rid of culture. I've been in the all of that

you're right now it's all gone. It's all it's going so fast. It happened in 20 years, 20 years. And I was just looking at a, it was the sixth of May 2000, that PIM Freetown was assassinated. He was going to win the Dutch elections. And his main thing was stop this immigration, he actually was more concise and stopped the Islamification. And he got killed for it. And so it didn't stop. And the whole country went into, you know, just like this frozen state. And they just just
did it and did it and did it and did it. And it has destroyed that culture. And people may think it's great, or it's better or more worldly, but I look at it. And I think no, it's not. It's just it's it has destroyed the now it's different from black American, a das culture. But the Dutch culture was a real thing. Now,

it's a call, it's like, say culture. Here's why we're unique. We're the same way. This is what this beef is about, like, hold on. You put you push you going too far. Because the same way I feel compassion for Drake, he says some things that were insensitive about the spirits of slavery. And that says to me, like you don't really get it. You come in identify with the worst of us. But then you also mock us at the same time. And that's where they bite the
people like, Hold on now. We got to stop that right here. And we're one of the last groups that don't want to mix as far as our culture, our identity. If you're saying but what happens is you're you're taking out the best and the brightest, but there are our best and brightest. And you're buying basically buying them off is what you're doing. I mean, that's it. There's no other way to put it you're by but you know what they're doing it around the globe. Everybody talks about the
Nigerians. That's right and how smart how many doctors are white in Nigeria? I don't mean that disrespectfully. I'm saying like they need doctors in Nigeria. Once you go in and poach talent from over there and you bring them here, same thing in India. you're importing all the tech people from India. Do you know where here? You know, we're

in the, in the 2000, early 2000, you know, where the best doctors in the world were considered to be the best doctors were Iraq.

thing. We went

and blew it up, brought them in

and makes it all about this immigration they make you seem like the people at the border coming in. You know, that's the face of immigration like a poor guy. That's your Ellis Island. Imagery. That's what No, we're bringing the smartest of the smart from Afghanistan. Syria. The smart you're saying? Like they're bringing in a lot of smart people. India, China, like the whole thing. They're Bremen Chinese across the border? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, the

ones that can do something.

Right. So you're pushing the whole world for talent? And bringing it here? Which that's fine. I mean, like, if that's what you want, say that? Don't Don't act like you know, this is humanitarian, isn't humanitarian, it's

worse, it's worse. There sigh opping everybody into thinking that they're going to attack our country from within?

No, they're going to be your fighting forces of what you are their soldiers and their military aged men, but who are going to be fighting for the same way they do the guys out and they brought it right back to Europe to fight the same way they brought in the French brought in the Africans and use them to fight against Germany. It's the same thing like we're, they're building up fighting forces, but it ain't for what you think is gonna be for no. I'm a firm believer that. Yeah,

and it's not just military fighting forces, it's technology, fighting forces, medicine, fighting forces, all kinds of fighting forces, I agree. And financial fighting forces, and

then they'll settle and they'll make a nice brown consumer culture. This is the reason for the commercials you're saying. Air would have Chinese in a black or a white and Hispanic where you know, whatever. And while

you keep going, thank God, this podcast mo we're gonna put a stop to it. Cuz

you know why? Cuz we're all different for a reason. It ain't an accident. We all bring something to the table and to make people feel like they shouldn't love themselves. And then there's one beauty standard, which that causes anxiety. Amongst females. That's the biggest problem with females is it's the one beauty standard. You know, whatever. I'm just saying like that. You can't be beautiful in your skin. So now your daughters have anxiety because they don't look a
certain way. What I look how they look. No, yeah. And if if they had a culture may look like they're awesome a mother's and their cousins and they all celebrate Ha, ha, all beautifully are with this phenotype. It makes logical sense. I think what I mean, but what what you get is self hate. And I'm gonna go skip the 34 and this is like I said, this is the one that tipped the scale for making the show. This is the harsh twins. Oh, yeah. I love that I use for me with the harsh
cars when they're sitting there appearance. Yes. Okay, now listen to this next clip.
Yes, why don't take black woman I shouldn't say it
¶ Color tipping
that way you think I just said to me, it's fine. Don't date him. Neither. Did the first one I was like hey, nah, nah, gay guy shot go to another race. I didn't make a black key with a white person. Need your black is gonna make one. Wow, black is the dummy gene. I can get a Korean Yankee is gonna come out of Negro you don't need you.

Okay, now these guys are clearly mixed race. Lights. Yes, they've got they've got they've got white in them.

I'll say Quadroon No, I'm gonna wait because I don't know if that fits. Yeah, I don't know if that's offensive or not. But that's the word that means it for people who don't know you have Octoroon wish mulatto is that actually? derisive term because it comes from you. That's what mulatto comes from. So do you like you had half wishes biracial, half black, half white. If you have a Ah, three white grandparents and one
black grandparent, that's Quadroon. If you have seven white grandparents and one black grandparent, that's Octoroon. These are the terms and these are the older terms like it might be similar to Oriental. So I might use and might be using the wrong terminology, but for the sake of identifying them on a podcast, so you can get an idea. Now, they'll be considered, like, what like high yellow? Compared to revenue? Yes, I

would agree. Yes. Yeah.

So but now they're saying the wet a little Max, I'm not shaming you and make clearly black. I mean, if you want to say he was a term, you're saying, you can see the Negro features, you know, saying so you can't see that they have they're not racially ambiguous. They say I can get with a non black woman and make a black baby. Yeah. What what are we doing here? See, that's what's not fair to the child to put that burden on him to have to live up to being black. You
follow what I'm saying? Enough for the cow take enough for the kids here. That's not fair. Because you chose to go in a direction, which you're saying. Family making abilities. But then you want to put the black tag on the on? On the on the kids. Now whenever you have a black daughter, would you say you don't do it black women? See the confusion we're causing here? I

got you. And I like those guys. Now. I can't like him anymore. You've ruined now you can like him? No, no, no, no.

We're not going to do without your future. cues, the beaten up the house lay there just confused. Why supremacy is confused is meant to be confusing. So that's why I don't ever want to beat up on anybody. Because guess what, they have the right to say what they want to say. Under VG Q us they have the right. But what I'm saying is that we have to correct them to say hello. Like, that's not right, to put that burden on your child. That obviously you're saying that when they
become black women. Now you set this standard, you know, saying like, and you know, that's what now you see why I'm so passionate and irked at the same time about this topic like bro Hi, y'all gonna say you can get with a non black woman and make a black baby they were very specific with their terminology. And that black girl that you may have that you identified as black don't look black. Gonna look less black than you are to get with a white woman. And you're gonna put the burden of
being and identify as black on them. And then they're gonna have so many anxiety I'm saying from you doing that?

Hey, most of the 13% that is claimed to be a Doss in America is what percentage of that is not 100% Black? A das black? None of us that's right.

That's why we considered a watered down that's why people outside of United States give us such a hard time because it's like yeah, you got some you can look back far enough. He was saying you gotta you gotta have a and what I mean by a might be my French sneeze. Like I said my grandmother's fair skin and color. Like I say colorism is a whole thing and my
family I mean like it's crazy. Um, but my grandma that's fair skin, where she married a dark skinned man my grandfather now my grandfather got my Grandfather's father big George he was fair skin. Well he married a darkest woman he could find and made a brass and may interesting he's more of my color like a dark brown like a darker brown. Yeah, so it goes
back and forth back and forth. That's what I'm saying. Like you look at my wife she's saying like that oh light skin light because light with biracial is now the light skin has moved. Well we use the call light skin light skin no more she's like a golden brown. But her parents like I said are my color and darker? Right? You're saying like you look at my daughter cheese light like my wife is but she got four brown or darker grandparents. Yeah, amazing. But we know that we know each other.
But like I'm saying when we see each other you can see like, oh yeah, it was saying certain phenotype like we identify Yes, we know who is us and went okay and a

little a little nod that ahead. Okay, yeah. I got you

All right, so let's go ahead and go. Number 35.
But what about the white parent of a black child? I mean that that white parent would have a vested interest, and at least trying to deal with their racism so that they will raise you would think that children on stock, you would
¶ Parentage
think that now, all of us know, you know, people from interracial homes. I mean, they're not all, you know, brainwashed into being white. No, they shouldn't be brainwashed into being marks of being non white products, either their hairs curl their lips or bra their nose or bra or their, you know, their skin is dark. Black
genetic material is always going to leave its mark. And the children are always non white and the children that I have seen many of these children have more hangups about not being white. You see, then black children who may be the same you Oh,

wow. Yeah, I can believe that.

Yeah, and I'm wanting to do this out of order, just for the sake of time. And what she just said, talk about those
¶ Hangups
hangups, let's go to 39 I have no I'm doing it on the fly. So you get hit. So you can hear some of these hangups. Children
who have white mothers tend to be more exposed to internalized racism. And colorism because of the lack of intersectionality among white feminists, they get chills from whether white moms tend to be a little anti white. And I was like, shoot, I got a white mom. I will admit, there was some definite anti blackness stuff when I lived with my mom and my grandmother sees my brother shirt and he's wearing a shirt that looks just like this with Malcolm X in the rifle and
my grandma's like really? Malcolm X with a gun so violent

these are hangups yeah I mean, you wonder why they go to college. And they get sucked into these groups. Yeah. Cool course is in trust me this is this is the process of making them culturalist case you don't want to identify with your white mom too much. But at the same time, you know, you go to certain places, and you're not black enough. And that causes resentment. You know, and they you didn't you know,

or then you kind of stuck in irons. You're in between you don't blow your your cultureless or

you had to overcompensate and that's that's really, really risky as bad. Well, that's just like Drake overcompensating. Yeah, we're in the wrong way. Because it's like brah you're 37 years old, and you got hair clips in your hair and big gold teeth in your mouth. He was saying like, you didn't do that. 27 You don't do that same thing. We saw

the word Drake look like when he was a kid. He was completely different.

And Colin Kaepernick besides Yeah,

he got that fro and everything changed. Right? So that's thinking the comb in it too.

Yeah, and what see here's the thing this is what not fair to the white parents. My mom like kept saying my mom was racist. my adoptive white mom was racist cuz she would let me get cornrows. My mom will let me get cornrows. She was like you're saying she was like no, you're not going out here looking like that. You know, as soon as I got 18 I got home. It was like no and got out went out the house but no, she was like, No, you're not getting your hair like that. So they what they
perceive as being racist. is based in race. Yes. And we're treading You said we're treading with the third rail here. It was a black hair hair. Yeah. Yeah. Because that's the big sign of blackness. He was saying is that hair texture? He was like that's the rude like you can be like you're saying your other features can be with that hair. That's

right. Well, this brings me to another topic I just got to bring up because it's been me it's been irken me because all I see now. I mean, I really I'm not an ex that I it's an inbox for me. Then because what I mean all I see is negative negative never don't go to my my my public timeline. What's with the wig snatching? That's gone out of control. Wig snatching. Yes. Black girls, quote unquote, grabbing each other's wigs

on a fighting and it's national or is it like, like a robbery?

What No. I've seen some robberies too, which is kind of funny when you know someone drives by in a motorcycle But no but it's but the fight always starts with the hair. Well,

women poor hair. That's the thing. That's that's the

stereotype. It's almost like a humiliation ritual. Oh, yeah,

it is. But yeah, well, well how long? Women pull hair naturally because that's like, that's the biggest vulnerability. Yes,

but this is different. This is like, I'm gonna grab your wig Boom.

Oh, yeah. Now that that yeah, that is. Yeah. Is a disrespect. Yeah. Which the whole wig thing in itself is a whole problem, because I can say it best. And you know why I don't talk about that.

Yeah, because you don't want to get your ass kicked. Not

even that not is that I mean? Well, I mean, because I'll talk about anything. The reason why I don't talk about it is because I can't identify. Because black men's hair experience is totally different. I understand black women hairier

than the closest I got.

Right? But I'm gonna say like, because obviously I got daughters. And I don't think beauty companies have put enough effort into serving their customers. Because there's a huge market out there to create the products that's necessary to care for black hair. Are they sure talk a big game about it? They do. But they haven't. I mean, we got rovers on Mars, allegedly. But we can't figure out black hair. Come on. Now.
What are we doing? Honestly, like think about it. Like, come on Elon, you're saying figure out black hair, you know, that? That I think that's a strategic but you do find out the hair thing is not exclusive to black women because Indian women straighten their hair. Because I know that I had an Indian female manager. And once she got up to a certain level when it comes to straight hair, she she I kinky hair, you know, saying but to b
Yeah. So this is this is a this is a phenomenon that goes beyond black hair. And it's more of hair texture. But at the same time, like I said, black men have a different experience. Because if you notice black man's hair, leads, think about it. You're saying everybody has a fade now you're gonna notice this? Yeah, every every every race of man is going to cause
some kind of fade as back. Yeah. I was watching on TV while I was there, like in faith all of us like, yeah, so I mean, we kind of leave like, um,

yeah. So I didn't want to sidetrack I just had Yeah, no,

not sure. But it's important. It's important, because this is the struggle that these is part of the overall struggle with the MCS children struggle with the most course. And I'd like to introduce a term, I think they should be identified as racially non binary. And I'm dead. I've heard all heart attack series. Let them decide when they get out enough to decide. I don't think you need to put that burden on them. Like I said, with the harsh twins. Right? Why
would you put that burden on your children? If you're saying maybe they want to be multiracial and marry a multiracial person. Now I'll tell who will tell them what they can't be the system. No, make it very clear that you can't be unless you now you keep at it, you know, same. And now we get to 15 White grandparents and one black grandparent we might get tall. And that's the one drop rule. Yeah. So alright, so I see Tom. Alright, so which way should I go? Which way
should I go? Where should I go? Are you okay? What contributes to these? The confusion of the non racially non binary
¶ The subconscious mind
children? I learn something new. Dr. Bruce Lipton. Hey, have you ever heard of him? No. He has an interesting takes on the subconscious mind. And I think this work may contribute to their identity. I hate the word crisis but their identity misalignment, that's a better word. So 37 listened to Heisei as you're who you are shaped.
I'd like to discuss the nature about how our life has been programmed, and how these programs control our life, our vitality and our behavior in the world. Recognize this. If you buy a new computer, and you turn it Gon, the built in operating system prepares it to work. But if there are no programs in that computer, then the computer can't really do anything. Well, let's now relate this to a child. When the brain develops, it's got an operating system, but there are no programs in it.
So nature created the first seven years of our lives, to download behaviors by observing our parents, our siblings, and our community. And in this way, a child can learn all the behavior or characteristics necessary to be a functional member of family and a functional member of a community. All

makes sense to me.

So if you're racially non binary child,

the first seven years will be very determining, especially

if those first three, four years you're only with your mother. And what I mean by only what your mother if, like, she cares for you in like, the goat where you don't go to daycare, anything for that nature. You learn from her, and then you go into society, and then they tell you something different, right? Because your mother's not even if you're ugly, baby, you're saying your mom mango, never call you. You're saying so. And then you go into society and society lets you know you're
ugly. You're saying like, I'm being facetious. But that's my point is like, your mother can never be honest with you. Never ever. It's not in their DNA, slash my face only a mother could love. That's a term, right? Because your, your mother's always going to see the best in you. Even though you've even revealed a worst person in the world. She's gonna find something to love about you. So with that said, if she's doing everything to protect you from society, it might be creating me
problem down the line, and I like to go back. I'm going out of order here. So just bear with me. Okay, can I want to hear what he said, now go to 40. And listen to another VG Q of a non binary, racially non binary person or group of people, as they speak about being black children with white moms.
We live in a predominantly white area in a country that's controlled by whiteness, the information that you receive about white people from society is all just stereotypes, this is what can cause them to begin to see their whiteness in a negative light, because no one at home was mentioning their blindness and how it's powerful. This is a Facebook post from my uncle, you can pause to read if you want. But basically, he was saying that he'll kill any black
lives matter. Antifa protester, if defund the police for to actually be achieved. He knows I'm very passionate about Black Lives Matter and have always been attending or organizing protests. So when he says stuff like that, he's directly threatening my life. Many commenters were saying things like, Oh, I didn't know my culture. I have a white mom and I didn't know my culture. Why would you expect a
white woman to teach you about your black culture? Where was your black father and the issue of massage noir where some black men not all but some black men are only with white women because of the closer proximity to whiteness, and they put down their own women and own culture as a result as mix kids need to combat that massage noir as well as the internalized racism.

Explain VG Q to me. I think I missed that.

VG Q is vit don't guarantee qualification. So if your person a non white person and the system white supremacy, you're entitled to say what you say. Right? That's your experience. It doesn't lie. Like it's your experience. Yes. Now, we shouldn't have that because we should have the system but I can't tell another person their experience. I can't tell Drake his experience. Got an experience his experience if you want I'm saying Does that make sense? Like that's why I'm not
here to combat what these kids are saying. Can I didn't live their experience? So they're entitled to what however they felt about it. Yes. And what listen to them. It's a real struggle. I want people to really all people, all black people, quote unquote white people quote unquote, am saying it like that because we're not black. We're not white, and I found that out by working in a multinational corporation, but
you see any people darkening you? And they don't identify as black so it's like home with Navy black if we want our color because this thing no exist. It Down is this nice shirt. Nice. This is stupid. It's dumb. But it does have consequences that you hear these children. And the reason why I took notice is like my daughters, they have a virus. You want to use that term biracial friend, and it's there. It's a real struggle for you. I just sit around listen, I'm like in earshot. Andy's listen. No,

I'm I'm pretty sure a lot of this episode came from your own experience by just observing your kids. Yeah, I can hear that.

And experience that colorism. Much your children. Yeah, like they didn't pick that up from us. But I've seen it. I've seen colorism so much my kids. Really? Yeah, they have different grades of hair, different colors of skin. Yeah. When they were younger, they were saying not not that they're older. This is like what I'm like, where did you get that from? Where do you pick that up from? Most times television? I'm sure. Cuz you see most of the lead roles on Disney shows is I
wasn't in India. And people like that, you know, that's the blackness they had to identify with. Right? And it's like, ain't but in the day, I think it's how you pronounce her name. She when she looks at it, she gets the most a majority of black people who may she may feel uncomfortable. Cuz now she's the odd personnel and it's very, I'm telling you. This is where people will get pissed off with me. Black people can be cruel to black people. Very cruel.

Of course I'm not very you know, it's very like people.

Very cruel. I'm just gonna keep it safe. Hey, is at an all time high. Very cruel, Blackie. You're saying you get a bunch of dark skinned people one light skinned? Are we gonna when we all jump on her? Look at her light skinned look her light like this like that like this? Half white blah, blah, blah. You're saying you're a bunch of light scampi with a dark skinned person. Blackie and darky. Yeah. But where they learn that from from the system? I'm telling you. You don't say it's
internal. They can't tell you. You listen to them. And you wonder why they on college campuses doing what are they doing? Because they are hurting man. I'm telling you. And I feel for Oh god. No. Like I say I didn't know it was like just having black family. You just like the grades or whatever the other family is. You say like What do you mean? demoralizing effect? I don't know if you ever went through that with your family. But two sides. It's how you like the other side?

No, not like that at all. You're

lucky. You're lucky. You're very lucky. You know, I'm saying because it's like, yeah,

my issue was education. So I was Yeah, I was dropped out. So that we had

his hand goes right. That's that's the things which you Sure? Yeah.

I turned out okay.

Now I'm just saying, hey, he sticks with you. Because you don't think you're saying like by my last day and you start to question yourself, you know, that's why I got supreme confidence now. Because my now you can't tear me now. Okay, let's hear me. I love myself. And I wish everybody will love Excel. And if they did, we wouldn't have this screwed up world. We are. I'm sorry.

It's okay, MO. I like it. I'm loving hearing you pour

your heart out. So going back to Bruce Lipton, because he's, I think you said you want it to like him saying,
¶ Downloading programs?
Hey, here's some good news. Yeah. If we fix that, all the bad stuff that we picked up, it's zero through seven. That's how we use and you can reprogram your mind
38. Well, however, since we are downloading the programs by observing other people, what happens if we download programs from our parents or family or siblings that are not very positive programs that are actually very negative programs that have an adverse effect on our health?
Well, it turns out, science has revealed that during the first seven years of our life, our brain is designed to download programs just by observing other people is a state of hypnosis, which is a characteristic of a brain frequency called theta,
which is just below consciousness. The first seven years of a child's life is installing the programs that when consciousness kicks in and around a seven consciousness as use of programs to create the behavior, in their relationships and their family, community, etc. We now know about 70% of those programs that we download from others are negative and disempowering, and even self sabotaging. And as we go through
our life, you say, Well, where are these programs? I say, well, they're in the subconscious mind.

Yeah. That's where you fix it. And we go back to what we talked about before last show. Do anything constructive? Oh, yo, words could be construed

words matter big time.

That's why I'm gonna push back against that notion I know people get upset with me when I say that but word he ever Tao you remember words more you do but with his

Yes, I agree

to His Word or like we've went. I think that's the effect of social media. Like, are you just saying what you want to say? If you don't like it? That's your problem kind of thing, you know, saying no, like, it's the human on the other side. Maybe you're saying but isn't human on the other side of that comment? be constructive people. And yes, be constructive. All right. I don't know what to do with these last two clips. This is a while I think their goal is is is 43 and
44. You could play 43. I think this is the the ultimate
¶ The goal?

goal. Yeah, yeah. Does
having parents with diverse backgrounds make you smarter? And you study in the journal Nature shows height and intelligence are linked to greater genetic diversity, or Dr. David Akers is in Los Angeles. David. Good morning. Morning, Charlie. Are you excited by this story? Yeah, it's a very interesting study, because they looked at across hundreds of studies with 350,000 people, and they put them into two buckets. They looked at the genetics of the
parents. And when they were similar, they put them into one bucket. And when they were dissimilar, another bucket, and then they looked at their children, their offspring. And what they noted is that when parents were similar genetically that the children were slightly shorter, and did slightly worse on some of the cognitive function studies. So a difference yet on all the health benefits, or the health effects,
there was really no effect. cholesterol, heart disease, diabetes, no dramatic difference between the two groups, so different than we thought it

was gene splicing, okay.

hybrid vigor, I think is the term. make stuff up, but you're saying that the needs they want to survive, it creates the stronger, which is fine. Like I say, if that's the goal, I'm not knocking that I'm saying we got to get rid the system if we're going to do that. can't have both. I'm gonna

play 44. I want to hear this. Okay. And part of this, why is that?
Why it's certainly interesting is you think about it, evolution, you know, Darwin described this 200 years ago, selects out for who has better children, and for who dysfunctions that were necessary over the last million years, well, dominantly, that's hunting. So cognitive function that is finding your way back from hunting, and also taller
meat, you could run quicker and get away from prey. And those were the facts that were actually selected for diseases like heart disease, diabetes, etc. happened after childbearing age. So we didn't actually select for them through evolution. It's a pretty interesting study that tells us a lot, because this is really the first couple generations where people of different backgrounds are having children. And if this happens in one, one generation children, 1.2
centimeters shorter, think of it if it continues to happen. Maybe

this is why they're doing all that AI stuff, they know this has come, they know what's going to happen. And we're gonna have to start engineering people even even differently.

And you're importing people from all around the world. Your genetic, good genetic diversity. Yeah.

Well, you've given me a lot to think about Mo.

Thank you for listening. I don't

know, I mean, it's, it's been all over the all over
¶ Wrapping it up
the emotional map, you know, it's because so much comes into play. And I've been around for a few years. And still, it's like, okay, so you got this part to think about that part to think about. And obviously, I don't have the same experience in life that you do. But, but then again, very different, and you don't have my experience. But this, what you've talked about today is is just not discussed. So I really appreciate you doing
that. And then I think you laid just laid it all out. And I think that that's been really helpful.

And that my my only goal is, is to be constructive. And hopefully people hear this conversation. If you're interacting with people. No, no, consider their feelings. If you are choosing to have a family understand what how cruel the world can be. Just take that into consideration. And finally, love yourself enough that you're saying you try to find somebody like yourself, and like I said, never had to be based on color. You're saying whatever whatever your morals are, love yourself
enough where you're like, you know what, I'm great. I want somebody just like me.

Well, it took me a couple of tries. I found somebody just like me, Ed turns out She's half Mexican ah what can I do? What can
I There you go USA

amo brother thank you so much another one in the can I really love doing this show I can't wait to see what we have for the next two ones

Thank you Adam and as I always say pay attention to everything and the true reveal itself
¶ Pay attention to Everything and the Truth will reveal itself

and we'll be back next time mo facts for that occurring episode number 99 You will not want to miss it see you soon everybody
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