94: Helping Our People

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facts with Adam curry for September 27 2023 Episode number 94 You've been ready for us and we deliver Adam curry coming to you from the heart of the Texas Hill Country time once again to spin the Wheel of topics from here to Northern Virginia please say hello to my friend on the other end ladies and gentlemen, Mr. Mo facts

how you know Adam,

I am doing good mo it's good to hear you brother. It's good to be back on the on the I was gonna say wheels of steel but I'm not on the the sticks of steel sticks. Yeah. What's happening in Virginia mo

everything's going good. We had the storm the past weekend. Got a lot of rain needed rain. Everything's going good. Yeah,

we got we finally got some rain here in Texas too. It was bad man. It's been almost four months with almost no rain. Everything is brown and dead and it's just, it's been bad and bad. However, there's the light at the end of the tunnel. Mo facts 94 I am ready. I'm ready to find out what not I'm not sure if we're doing a part two. If you know what I don't know.

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As you tease this is a follow up from 93. Higher infinite power. Yes. If you're not hip, pun intended. That was the hip part of hip hop. Oh, now we have to go to the hot hot part is which is an acronym for helping our people. And if you haven't caught on by not you have but if people would delicious, haven't caught on. This is not a historical. In this borough, this guy used this turntable to make this now that's not what we're doing here. Because we don't do stuff

I mean that you can go to the museum, the Jay Z museum about himself to find out about that.

Yes, or you can go to any 50 year anniversary celebration and get the watered down history. What I'm hoping to do here is present the bedrock that hip hop was built on. And hopefully if you haven't heard 93, maybe you should stop now. Go over to 93. But if you're not going to stop now, I actually put a mash up together of some important clips. So for the people that haven't heard in 93, it can bring them into it. It's a real real,

it's a recap. I don't usually do those. This is this is new.

Right. So this is a bridge, hopefully. So if you're just tuning in for the first time you're not completely lost.

Yeah, here's what we'll do. We'll have Dred Scott put a chapter marker in here. So you can skip right ahead to after this. If you don't want to hear it. How does that sound this modern podcasting technology is AI Dred Scott is AI I'm telling you he's AI. Alright, here we go. The flashback recap of Mo Fox with Adam curry 93.

There are however a number of inconsistencies we have to highlight. Firstly, restaurant staff and customers were the pair had eaten claimed Sam had a large quantity of money with him. Ostensibly this was to buy Christmas gifts. That money was never recovered. Bertha Franklin had at one time been an operator of a brothel and rumors persisted after the killing that she and Boyer who had worked as a prostitute were

Just because I'd set it up poorly. What we're discussing is the death of Sam coat, how he was murdered or murdered for lack of better word. Um, and my theory that he may have walked into some kind of MK Ultra safe house or whorehouse for right and maybe got dosed or slipped a Mickey LSD bugged out, because it was never in his nature to be aggressive and violent. As we heard in 93. I set it up properly. So I just want to stop there. Did you want to interject anything? No, no,

no, I remember this. I remember all this perfectly well, so we can we can go from here. Okay,

they would get you know, cash payments, and oftentimes, the live Get Out of Jail Free card, Franklin had shot a motel guest in similar circumstances. Just six months earlier. It's argued that Franklin and Boyer were implicit in a deal that guaranteed them immunity from prosecution for other crimes. This theory tries to explain the injuries Sam sustained by suggesting he was beaten up by government agents before being shot. Cook wasn't having it. It said that he rejected everything

yeah. Yes, I just love that MK Ultra was at the base of hip hop.

MK Ultra Harvard. LSD. Yeah, baby. CBS which you put me onto this, this you know, I'm telling what CBS CIA broadcasting systems. So you have all these entities floating around figure out how Dr. Logan Westbrook said penetrating the black music. He helped with the blueprint. And the previous clip, he said it was a myth. Then later on down like because there's there's a good time gap in between those two clips and when they were recorded. Now he goes into Oh, I was the liaison.

What is what is deemed the dip? I don't know if we talked about this on 93 What is deemed the first hip hop song?

Oh, well, as we listen to 93 Hip Hop's been around

way longer, right? But the 1973 milestone is

Rappers Delight. Rappers Delight, my Sugar Hill gang, but some people argue that the message was the really the first hip hop song.

Great Grandmaster Flash. Yeah, because that that actually was talking about, you know, broken glass everywhere. It was a real CNN type, you know, Bourbon message.

That and it didn't have the disco vibe that Sugar Hill gang had, it was it actually became his own sound with that record. So 1973 is the recognized date, as we've heard on 93 We have people rapping in 1940s. So you can have that, but it's just interesting. 1972 This report is done. 1973 Hip Hop

I love it. I mean, you know, there's always been these conspiracy theories about you know, men who control Hip Hop black music, and turn it into what it is today and have more fat along with actually with designer drugs every single time. Now there's a there's a tight correlation between every music genre every period and the drug that's associated with it. I would say most notably now with the big DJs who fill up the

Correct. And you got to look at Woodstock and the psychedelic, this kind of thing. And I'm, so we're not gonna get too far ahead. So now we're going to pick up and begin this episode officially, with Dr. Francis Cresswell Singh, and she explains the role of the black role in society as an entertainer

in the last 500 years. Black people in this area of the

She's a psychiatrist.

Yes, she was she was she's passed away now. But yeah, done. We've, we've looked at her work before on this show. But that's the thing. And Hip Hop is known as more of a culture than a music. And I would even go to say that hip hop can be considered more of a competitive sport than a music. It can be music. But let me lay out why I make that statement. There. One. When you age and hip hop is not seen as aging in Round Rock and Roll. You know, you can age out of out of being a hip hop

seeing Run DMC at the Video Music Awards for the 10th time is like, they're all fat, and they got the Adidas on it's like, they can't they can't really didn't feel right.

And there's a competitive nature in hip hop. Um, as far as I want to be the best. I'm better than you. I don't know if I haven't seen it and other genres. I'm sure there there is inside out competition. But this is a built in mechanism of hip hop. Well, it's

like going back pillars doesn't like go back to kind of gang gang. gangs.

Yeah, but I will say that predates gangs is more of I'm doing this right now. And let me explain to you, Hey, have

Yeah, he's I was gonna say battle rap. Exactly. That's something you don't hear. I very rarely will be a reference in a non hip hop song to a different song or different artists. But of course, part of a Well, part of, I mean, I was in talking about this before Los Angeles 1980, I think and it was the what was the big station in LA at the time? I can't remember. But they had, you know, they had battle raps. It

It it was at the genesis of the music, because DJs really created hip hop with the break records and that kind of thing. And they had to have an emcee or master of ceremonies, kind of control the crowd. Well, it became competitive, who could control the crowd the best. And this is where you had your battle thing going on. It's like I'm better than you. And it kind of comes out of the dozens, you know, like your mama jokes or snapping or ranking or whatever else, but

What we can say is that we have an impact OSE culture under the power dynamics of racism, white supremacy. See I can see right now in my mind the picture of Beyonce with her legs wide open at the Super Bowl for last year, it was so appalling to me, I can't get it out of my mind in terms of what has been

Do you think she means white supremacy? As in what we've learned on mo facts? White supremecy? Or is she talking about the modern day version of white supremacy, she

she means that just like nearly fuller means, and it misses the cool thing about her Neely fuller. They were collaborators. She actually helped him write his book, she inspired him to because he just had a bunch of notes and manuscrit you know, like, just tons and tons of ideas and analysis. And she's like, You know what, you need to put these things in a book and they met each other. Which for the producers out there, I think that would be a hell of a movie.

But if I'm, if I may, I take a little bit of not offense, but I take issue with. Okay, so Beyonce is standing in the Super Bowl with her legs wide. This is this. This is no different from white female artists. They're doing the same thing. Now, it's not exclusive. It's not the only way. No, and by the way, you don't see Alicia Keys doing that very successful. But I'm just saying you don't see

Alicia Keys much at all.

I disagree. Alicia Keys is very successful, very successful, financially successful.

And that's the crossover. Once she became successful. Like Dave Chappelle said, they'll come in by you. Once they see okay, you you artistic. Okay, and they've done this with the two sister Chloe, and what's the other one was name, Callie Bailey and the other one that played in on the Little Mermaid. Her name escapes me. Oh, yeah, I

know who you mean. Yeah. Right.

They came in both from playing guitars and singing acoustic covers. But the one sister with the Little Mermaid, they were like, okay, we can actually see you being a big movie star. What do we do with the other sister? Okay, let's make her urban. And this is where the Irving thing comes in. You hear? It's not saying black culture. They use this term urban culture. Yes, urban culture is linked with horrors and ratchet and Bs and gangs and all this negative stuff. But

show. Does this mean that despite the allure of being completely financially creatively, in an independent, independent of the record business, that Beyonce and Jay Z are controlled,

they are control from the artists of their status shouldn't still be touring. The way they tour. They are very controlled. And this is the way they do it. They give them big sums of money on the front end, so we can show you on the back end. And that was the thing with Beyonce somewhat of that now. I mean, since you brought it up, when you find it very jarring to see Taylor Swift and lingerie were her crushed, jammed into the camera.

Well, Taylor Swift has been doing some pretty, pretty risky outfits, but yes, I understand your point.

That's my point. And what it did was be honest They set the tone for everybody under her. Like this is where we're going with it. If the biggest ORS are doing it and everybody's going to copycat what's under that and that's the same thing with drug rap, trap rap, drill rat whatever it is whatever the top people are doing it trickles down because it becomes this is what the industry wants. This is what they're promoting.

What little less I'm Beyonce mo Buleleng for the getting they're getting a little antsy about where we're going with this

the heart we want to run from the Hi we are for sure. No, but so with that laid out we can start looking at what can

I just say something I love this these episodes I love this so much. I just want to just need to say I love that you put this together this is I'm enjoying every second of this

I appreciate that and like I said this is the bedrock so when you say Not you but when the listener and the supporters and and the producers and the facts families see Hip Hop they can understand what's going on last episode was the power that energy is coming out that's what people love that energy. What's the purpose The purpose is to help our people why is Beyonce Jamie her crush it today camera for financial gains to you know to help her people? I don't fault her for that. I mean,

That's good minstrel. Okay.

That's what it is when you take you know, the largest audience and put these big old slave chains on him. Yeah. And they're dancing around at the Superbowl doing the Crip Walk and talking about how many black people are gonna killed

I know you and I have been talking about this ever since we first met. I mean, we've always said this. It's incredible what's happening and the fact that white audiences just take it on face value they don't there's not even a thought about that anymore. If you know if you say hey, you know that's actually kind of a modern day minstrel you know that station you're listening to and the five songs they keep repeating about black guys killing other black guys. People don't even think

It's to the point where they'll say, are you really black? Yeah, that's actually black. Like they don't question your blackness for saying, You know what, that's not a good look for black people to do that on an international stage. You will have non black people questioning your blackness. Where are we going? We're so I digress. Let's get back to clip number two. This is the story of black popular

It's 1967 and the mastermind behind the most successful black owned business in history has achieved his dream. With a unique vision, the creating the music that appealed equally to black and white. He had created the sound of young America with a musical empire based in the industrial city of Detroit, employed a group of artists across the world the four times, the temptations, the miracle, Martha and the Vandellas marry, well respected and admired is the puppet master You know, he was the guy.

Barry Gordy Jr.

Barry Gordy Jr. Yep. Their original mogul? This is what P Diddy, Jay Z. All these you know, so called moguls not to take anything away from? This was the guy. Yeah. And what he did was, he made a polished version of black music that was palatable to white society. Yes. And he's what I look up to him a lot, not his personality. But the way he took a manufacturing approach of quality control of you know, developing the artists the a&r side of it the look at very smart individual. very

363 60 view.

And we have to because it's that's where the manipulation of the image of a person is used against it to for fear what Dr. Francis Cresswell Singh was saying, anything you'd like to add before we get to number three,

no other than I am a big Motown fan. Always have been I grew up listening to Motown, I grew up with the Jackson Five when I was on Sundays. When I was in the States. I didn't move until I was seven. So I've always been a big fan captured me from early on. And, and we love Mike, that's all I can say. But of course, you know, all these other I mean, the Motown hits is I probably have somewhere in my collection. I probably have 20 Different Motown biggest hits collections.

And I think the cool thing about Motown was all of this came from that neighborhood, or that city of Detroit, for the most part. I mean, you had the Jacksons coming from Gary, but the early artists, the Smokies, the temptations, all that he set up shop in Detroit, and just kind of set out and said, Come in, come, come here record. And you could do this in any city, Chicago, what Stax did down in I think Memphis, New York, all over the over the city. They

Yes, well, number three. Even his strongest rivals in Chicago, were left lagging behind Chicago and Detroit were like gangsters. It was like we didn't want to do have nothing to do with Motown. And they didn't want to have nothing to do with that. By 1967, his empire was showing the strain of the times. With the Detroit riots, came an end in the era of innocence. This is the story of Barry Gordy, black music's greatest Svengali and his creation, Motown Records All right.

Pretty dramatic. So that's the the dramatic layout of Barry Gordy. Now we have the man in his own words. He's sitting down speaking with Oprah and Oprah's master class, and he kind of tells you how it came about and his mindset of creating Motown,

Jackie Wilson had another hit. And another hit. And I became further well known as the writer for Jackie Wilson. But I was not making any money, I had to go into business for myself, borrowed money from family savings, which we had my sister Esther had set up, and no one could get any money from there. But I really wanted to open up my own record company, I wanted to do something, I had all these hits on Jackie Wilson. And they say yes, what do you got to show for it? I said,

All right, you rang your bell?

Yeah. That hits no flops, and the quality control, this is what got me because as people know, and my former life, I was a quality engineer. And when you implement things that you learned your company into, you know, your creative process. This is what come in nobody, I think nobody really had thought about it in this way before the analytics behind it, of not leaving it up to artists to make their song or their look or whatever. You always had a in ours, but the he had an actual

that Well, I would say that. So this is one thing that Barry Gordy had had, he's still alive. I think that he has a Clive Davis Ahmed era goon, that you even in the Netherlands Vilem from Kota. I mean, there are what we call music men, and they hear these things. They hear a hit. And they can indeed they will hear a hit and say yeah, but but Barry Manilow nice to say because that will be good for him. Or what that's what

That's where your front of future goggles. Yeah, we're getting there. You're a long way. All right, you're spot on. But we're gonna get to. Yeah, not another hour, maybe another 10 minutes. All right. What's your spot on? So let's get let's go ahead and listen to edge. And one more thing I'm gonna lay up. Barry Gordy came from a good successful family.

isn't? Isn't he half white? It isn't. Barry Gordy had white ancestry in him.

He does. I think him and Jimmy Carter. Oh, really?

Our family

members, if I'm not mistaken. And there's a good video on YouTube is more of a graphical thing. You could actually look up his lineage. I think he's tied in with. With the Carter family. Genetically.

Yeah, I see. From his great grandfather, James Thomas Gordy who owned a black female slave named Esther Johnson, according to Wikipedia, so take it for what it is. All right. Yeah. Interesting. There's a

more elaborate one on YouTube if you want to look at his genealogy You and but yeah, bass. He went to his sisters were. And it's funny they always we need representation for women in the industry. He had his sisters working with him hand in hand. Yeah. And another unsung mind. I mean, you can't say he's unsung as far as success but the air and knowledge of what makes

And we had the artists development which my sister's set up because they were models, and they wanted the people to look good. And so they brought in this woman Maxine power. And she set up this finishing school for them, which had been unheard of. We had a guy from the Paulo shot Charlie Atkins, who came in to be the choreographer. And we had other people Maurice King, that was at the flame show bar, when I saw Jackie Wilson, he came in to do the Muse comedy and stuff with the temptations

And the key word there is polished. Yeah. That's was his, his real superpower. The way he created this finished Polish package, that, as you said, yourself became the sound of young America. It looked good. It translated to television, which people have to understand television was a new, newer invention wasn't exactly new. But to know what looks good on television, to understand that we only have a certain amount of space in the stage. We had to have a lot of movement,

In the 50s. An article broke in Billboard concerning a young man called Barry Gordy who I'd created on the strength of a private family loan. A tiny little label called Tamra Tamra, in turn rapidly became Motown. And then finally, Gordy. The

Yeah, it's coming back to me because I remember it used to be Tamla Motown for just a little bit people called Tamla, Motown and the Ailes character who, I think he's dead now. He he was the marketing guy. The marketing guys and he opened the doors. Okay, I may be wrong.

No, no, no, you're right. He had multiple roles that she say that, um, he was not a talent appearing man. If you go look at his younger pitchers, and not to stereotype, but he looked like a mob boss. He had this leave. He was

he was the son of Sicilian born Barber, Sylvester. Oh, ales. Okay. He's from Sicily. Well, of course, he of course, is possible mob ties there.

And he had the slicked back hair with this one streak of gray hair. Um, and in other documentaries I watched on the subject, they kind of leaned into the eve if they say he wasn't a mob boss, right, or a mob figure, which was highly likely at the time, because mob and music went together hand in hand, because of where the music was played the nightclubs and

Yeah, he he was to connect he was to connect with the DJs. That's what it was

a Yeah. So I have this. This is why I said you're from the future. Now we've got the repetition in the machine that goes behind the hit record. This is a recording that he Barney Ailes actually cut, and sent out to distributors, because of a hit record that he didn't feel like it was being pushed appropriately. And, yeah, so this is an actual 45 that they received. And they owned the tie on the label, it said play immediate, like it doesn't entitle. Now you tell me if you

Hi, I just got back from a business trip to Europe.

A is really I got from a business trip.

And as you can imagine, my desk is piled high with important items to be taken care of. However, something so important is come up that I stopped everything in order to personally discuss the situation with you. And instead of a phone call, I thought I'd cut my first record. There'll be no 200 on 1000 for no guarantee whatsoever. important subject I'm talking women,

no 200 and 1000. What would that sound is that sounded weird. Let me listen to it again.

And instead of a phone call, I thought I'd cook my first record. There'll be no 200 and 1000 or no guarantee whatsoever.

That's distributor speak for money. Yeah, I

think that's 20%. There. 20%.

Yes. 20% of 1000. Right.

Yeah, no, 2000 no guarantees.

important subject I'm talking about? Is Diana Ross's first single release, reach out and touch somebody's hand. We have a number one record with Diana, the fact say so we're already over 600,000 records. The reorder pattern is healthy, and the AirPlay is strong. Everything about the record is positive, and gives off good vibrations to everything that is

Your career your life is at stake. Well, this is

Yeah, this is what I was excited about to hear God knew you knew the inside work and continue on. Yeah. So you put your calls from

the field is literally that I think they they probably compile the trades that Tuesday, for some reason has been the day when the charts are compiled. And and so the chart companies, let's just say billboard to make it easy, but it's the same, the same basic concept around the globe, any chart, the calls from the field is what the retailers are saying. So it's not just sales, but it's what the retailers are,

Maybe people come in, and I kind of understand the premise, because of the small mom and pop radio. record shops. Yeah, we used to have one called wheelies. And you would go in there ask do you have this? Do you have that? Right? They will actually push records on you by how you heard that news? Yep. So I have a vision of how it works from the distributor to the

Your life.

kneecap maybe who knows maybe a couple of failure. And I know I'm being hyper stereotypical, but really, not really. The reason why I'm doing is because mo Tao and Barry Gordy leaned into the imagery. Let's just say he wasn't mobbed up. Right. They lean into the imagery of him being mobbed up.

Yeah, let me guess that's the second part of this important message play immediately.

There's more at stake than just a hit record. We're talking about establishing an artist in such stature, that the sales on future singles and albums will surpass even the fantastic records set by Diana and the Supremes in the past. In fact, her new album featuring reach out is already set for release. I think you get the message anyway, I hope and one

Yeah, that's good. That's promotion. That's record promotion, baby.

A lot of innuendo in there too. When I see you later this year. I'll like to reach out and touch your hand, you know,

break your kneecaps, but you know,

came shake, you know, we're doing a great job. Not 20,000 though. So these are the figures and this was necessary because Barry Gordy couldn't go into those, those rooms and this is where the systemic racism played a part in shaping what were you know, it gives if you can pick what you play what you don't play. You can easily set the imagery for a whole group of people

All right, yeah, absolutely. Okay.

No. So I'm with you. I'm enthralled. I'm excited to move forward.

Now we're fast forwarding to 99. Because we you have to ask the question, Where is Barry Gordy he's still alive. Why is he not lauded as this? No godfather of black music as he should be for what he was able to accomplish. Some people said that he was seen as a sellout because he didn't want to put out the more controversial music like Marvin Gaye, what's going on? In the movie, talked to me about PT, green, PT green had

Hmm. So no, so I mean, I think Barry Gordy. I mean, he has certainly been he's gotten accolades, but you know, Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. I mean, so maybe not from BT. Is that what you're saying?

This is what we were talking about before you can become so successful, that you're successful in certain

So is it safe to say that now these many years later, with Motown, having become a multinational multibillion dollar corporation, that you are very comfortably well off? I have absolutely nothing. Which is really sad. This is why I one of the reasons that I wrote the book because I wanted to

was not his ex wife. Who didn't she write a book about?

It could be I said, I'm terrible that I didn't get her name. I'm looking on YouTube now to see if I can get her name Ramona, Ramona. Let me let me look that up. But had you were looking at had you heard this before? I had heard rumblings of this

about him being a pimp. Well, I did she say that in the kind of like, it depends on how she means it like literally a pimp.

Literally a pimp.

No, no, I had not heard this.

Now I've heard like I said, just in this is not something that I heard in the wild, is that I heard it doing this, um, the research that the Gordy family had some connections you know, kind of thing going and people from Detroit was like, oh, yeah, that I know, that are from Detroit that I know personally. Oh, yeah, that's that's our well known.

I think I did not know this. Yes.

So what I'm saying is I'm not doing this to drag Barry Gordy through the mud. I'm saying they use the show and showgirls, to kind of cancel him to marginalize him. Because you heard Harada say I don't really want to get into the to the murder but tell me how Barry was a pill.

Here we go. It's bury me and Motown the untold untold story 1990 Ramona singleton that was that was that's bitterly accused of this from New York Times. Bewdley accused former husband whom she called the thief of dreams of denying her credit for helping to found the label persuading her to remove her name from company legal papers, leaving her with no financial stake after the Motown label sold an 88 for 61 million. She only received a plaque. There you go. So

that's Yes, sir.

I think it's rain Noma.

Rain. Oh, my You're right. I'm sorry. Right. Yeah, yeah. Okay.

What? Yeah. This was on television. In the mind. It's amazing what used to be on television.

Yeah. Good times. Good stuff.

But you want to continue to hear Geraldo. Now listen, I want people to hear we're not muck raking or, or, you know, getting into what they call a tea. I'm showing you how they discredit this person with all this, it says on national TV by using a disgruntled spouse and employee to kind of tear him down and Geraldo kind of plays. And I know, I have a journalistic responsibility

as well. I mean, she had a book out. So when you have a book out, you know, you go and promote it. And so it's salacious. You know, I haven't read the book. But you know, I guess she had some, you know, it was canceled cannon. You know, it's exactly what you said she was, hey, he screwed me. He divorced me. I signed Stevie Wonder I helped build Motown. I got nothing. I mean, it's the typical scorned woman story. So yeah, I mean, she wrote the book it got published. That's always

show now he has all his money in it where he is reputation is getting torn to shreds. So let's continue on now. Producers facts family, Adam. Listen, listen to the salami tactic did Geraldo duck because he, I don't really want to do this. But I got to do this. Now. Listen, please.

But did you see it as your wifely duty to participate in that aspect of your husband's business? No, I didn't participate in that that aspect. But on one occasions, I did try a little something to see what it was all about to check out where he was coming from, because I really love this man. And he was my all in all and anything that he was involved in, I wanted to, you know, check it out to see what it was about? Well, you're gonna have to give us at least two more sentences. Like what?

Well, the thing is people do. More than a plaque for that if that's how she helped fund to finance the company.

And this is the short sightedness of Barry Gordy. And people like him. I want to I want to because this goes back to the Beyond saying that is the thing what Neely fuller says he said in the system of white supremacy. Black people only have three functions that are allowed. tacky, trashy and terroristic and they scale up from there you know, saying it starts off tacky like this conversation did between her Geraldo manages went straight into trashy, you know of how

No, never only good things, actually.

You know why? Because he

probably hooked him up, he sat down, he set him up for life.

Now, of course, that's what you're exposed to.

Stupid, exactly

what they are for these smart people that, you know, these women have damning information that can come out against you. And this is your former wife. So it is yeah, there's no, there's dual motive here. You know, a person I spent life with. I want to make sure you're set up because you being set out and properly looks good on me. Yes, but you're not on television. You know, selling our secrets to book publishers, you know, to, I believe, for her to eat. I honestly believe that,

End of show everybody.

Actually thank you for coming out. God bless you. Good night.

Just Just to follow that up in 94. So four years later, she reconciled with Gordy. In his 94 memoir, to be loved the music, the magic, the memories of Motown. He did dispute some of the claims in her book, but apparently they had reconciled so he must have said, Hey, I'm gonna set some stuff straight. Also, did you know that she was the producer of Rockwell? Somebody did not know that. Yeah, somebody's watching

me. But I didn't know that was Barry's Great.

Yeah, that's it. Yes. Ken Kennedy Gordy. Yeah.

No, no, what was that his son and then those guys that did that wild trap music with the wild hair? I think those are his grandson. I don't know. I don't know what little Johnny mo the two biracial guys that were with Louie John, they did that that party song going off the pan. But I'm just saying Yeah. I don't know that Rockwell was tied with Motown in a familiar you know, familial relationship. So yeah, this is a bad look. They said a bad little got

a good look for sure.

In and this is how the system works. Like you said, let's leverage this leverage something against Barry to get him out of the picture while we're wet. 1990 they had black music and in a chokehold by then yeah, but this is how they set it up. 1972 they come along, they say okay, who do we got to buy off? Okay, bearings, the big player. Okay, let's drop bag on him. When you seen this now, with the people selling their catalogs, everybody's selling their catalogs, you know, this

And what did the study come to mean? And how I, from reading your book you cited, you just get into the facts. But it seems that the study has become controversial for reasons that time presented. Can you talk about that a little bit? It has been, some say that it was one of the blessing in disguise, and others take the opposite view. As a result of that study, even determined that the black music, it was a viable market, it was something to pursue. And as a result, CVS

Yeah, sure. Blueprint.

They bought all the talent off. It's kind of like when Vegas goes and brings out the bookies in house.

Okay. Yeah, of course, it's where you want him.

That's exactly what they did. And he helped with the blueprint. I can see why now he wanted to lay the story out, there was a myth, because I'm sure him being as intelligent as he is, he can see that he let down the drawbridge across the moat. Yeah. Um, let's continue on with 13.

And then once the ratios nature of the country, that's just the way that things were set up, and things are completely separate, that he led all into radio stations, where you had to pop radio station, and you had to r&b radio station, and the pop stations, known as telephone, and wanted to play white artists, and r&b stations, and then the plain

It's true, technically true.

You want to explain the implications of what they're saying? Yes, as far as Khademi might not know how the

Yeah, it has to do with wavelengths and, and the length of the antenna, which he wants to be tuned to the same length as the as the transmitter antenna. And it's typically on car radios, car radios, and transistor radios at the time, would be more tuned for 90 through 100, I'd say you have to tune it somewhere to kind of like the optimum length, because it's, you know, it's a, there's a lot of bandwidth there. I

in each market.

So is that a fair statement to say it was a version of redlining? I will see I can see how they got there. But I just want to get

I mean In now, I mean, these days of course, with with bigger transmitters doesn't really make much difference. And now we're moving away from FM broadcasts altogether, I would say it was because there was stations that were established already. And then you know, the the quote, unquote, black stations came in, well, you need a place to go, you can't be sitting next to everyone else. And you know, because that could

him by what you know, me, but

you know, but you know, BLS one a wing, or 1075, I think in New York, you know, way up there that almost became I would say it worked to the black station advantage. It's like you come into a you roll into a city. Well, where am I going to look on the dial, I'm going to look above 105, you know, 105 probably was country. And then above that would be the black station. So it became almost like the hey, that's where you you don't want to bother with anything below that. So it's also benefit.

It's interesting that you say that because no matter where you went, you can kind of look at 107 Yeah, and that's for one was that Foxy? 107. in Durham, North Carolina. That was the one Foxy 107 And they end up getting 104 as well. Company. They bought it out in a merger or whatever. But 1:07am I free 7.5 point 9108

WB L S.

Yeah, Frankie Crocker. Yeah.

Yeah, but yeah, I remember hearing what this brought back to me was the saw I saw the center you Tao. You know, that was the call the call line, whatever for the station. When you hear this, and I'm sure people like what did the hell are they talking about a dial, you know, but you had to you know, we had to be in the old cars, we had to spin, spin and spin the knob to get it go up and down. We're dating myself. But I didn't start that as an interesting fact. And this is

Yeah, you make concessions? Yeah, sure.

So let's continue on what 14,

it's like redlining of radio stations. Exactly. Whereas when, in the center of the dial, the strongest signal, all your chamfer stations were located in the center of the dial. So consequently, I am a record company executive, I want to get my runners crossed over. So they will claim on the top 40 station reaching more and more potential Biden. That was that was my purpose, to cross those records over to the top one station. And you have a great anecdote in the book about some time having

Okay, muscle or just pure bribery or payola as we used to.

Yeah, so we got muscle for what's the other guy's name? Barney else? All right, he's, he's muscling from one direction and then you got the advertisers Muslim from another direction. All to help Barry Gordy. I find that interesting. Well, it's nothing nefarious I'm just saying it's interesting that Motown was picked for these individual put their muscle behind.

My Motown had the product I mean, the, I mean, the the key point there is that we're selling 600,000 records of Diana Ross, and you want to sell, you know, 6 million so and

and influence, which we always talk about. This is one of Well,

sure. I mean, so this is politics and all kinds of stuff gets involved with the music business. I mean, we see that am I ahead again, more godless

just got to separate 16 or 1760s, or straight, okay, it goes

finding is that white kids were listening to the black music stations in that town. And so it was sort of crossing over against people's will. So they got to a point where they could not any longer ignore the White Case of the purchase of black

You know, this is funny, in and not even in a haha way. But when Spotify started doing podcasts, which I can argue with argue they failed at least financially. They started handing out $100 million grants to so called Black podcasters. I don't even think they actually handed out the money but it was the same thing. It was grants it was in the music company. This is how this is how it's been operating forever.

To Charlemagne was one of the big recipients of of the one of those deals up

figures makes makes total sense. And he's lying locked and loaded for the rest of his life.

And he also, you know, created a team of podcasters the pod Boulais Yeah, but he gave, you know, platforms to Yeah, yeah, so they make him elevate and amplify the voices that they wouldn't want to be heard. There's not like a natural in the wild kind of thing that, you know, the cream rises to the top kind of thing. No, no, that's

bull crap. Now that we actually were having an argument before we even started the show, which we're not we're not gonna get into it was about AI, no, doesn't matter. But going back as long as the product and I've, I've learned this all over again in the past two months. With this value for

And I would like to give a boots on the ground report that if you're a captive audience, they can make anything a hit

correct. It has to be really bad for it not to become a hit. Absolutely.

If you are solely reliant on the radio, which I think Black radio was probably one of the biggest spreaders and yeah, he's a super spreader. Yeah, propaganda. Their aid because one it's free to wear as you used, whether it's in the car or on you work in warehouse jobs easily available, easily available, barber shops, that kind of thing. You cut the radio on, and it gets kind of with you all day.

And now you now you understand why the music business has been captured because the the How does that happen today because let's just say radio is less important than it was. It's becoming less important every every minute It's the algo it's the YouTube algo it's the Spotify algo it's all about the algos who controls the algos. Well go look at who owns Spotify

suggestions. Now, well you like that song you might like these other teams.

It's all algos and, which is why I like going back to the old school, the DJ, the DJ is the one that that does the selection for you and you'll tune into a DJ he's your algo he's your discovery algo but it's transparent. Now it's not like something behind the scenes because you know, the cream never rises to the top the cream sits like cement at the bottom.

And but even with payola. The DJ still had his reputation on the line, correct peak he couldn't play tray. Now, you might take the one and with the $100 bill in the records leave and play first. Or you know, or when it first comes back from break. But he can't play complete trash. No, because it's like, you were picked as a DJ. For your taste. You were the algo you weren't in the curator of of a sound. Exactly. Now, there's nobody to blame, you know, you can't say all

it's even worse in the music business these days. You've got to pay to be on playlists. There isn't a you probably know this, but there's entire companies you know, you pay Oh, it's like you want to be on this playlist. Well, you got to pay me $1,000 Okay, now you're in the playlist. That's how it works. And these are playlists that are popular playlists that by some magic get promoted by Spotify. Oh, popular. Yeah. The algo is not some magical thing that lives on

And it was a little bit of consolidation that had been before the algos. I like to take this time since we have a radio conversation that it was this thing called record pools. So because when I was making music, you're saying in my early, early to mid 20s. They had these record pools, and you had to pay your money to get your record in and record the pool in the pool to be heard by DJs. Now, they worked at radio

but but payola is not the exception.

It's the roguery rule, it's

how it works, how it's always worked, when I was a DJ in Holland, which was, you know, arguably very professional, even though it was government controlled, but every Monday morning, all the record label reps would come in the pluggers, as they were known, the record pluggers, you know, plug in their records, and, and they would, you know, say, hey, it would be okay, CBS your attorney says, Hey, guys, you know, I got this hot new thing, and you play a little bit and be

And I would like to make one final point is that it's amazing that I have been working on this show forever. And the fact that I didn't even know about you know, what your your your music show that you were doing. He works

in no danger, mysterious ways. No, right? No coincidence in the kingdom, my brother,

when I first heard all that Whoa, like what's going on here? You know, this is lining up, you know, the stars are aligning to Well, I think we started at 17. Yes, we did. Let's, let's go ahead and get into 18.

Again, he was committed to the environment. And the way

still happening today.

That's how you get in Jay Z and Beyonce to come out and support Hillary Clinton. Yeah, I think they've gotten smarter. Oh, since then, instead of supporting candidates. It's initiatives like LeBron and 2020. It was about you know, the NBA and LeBron on helping to get the vote out, right? He didn't he didn't go on stage your body? No, I think they're getting smarter now. They learn from the Puff Daddy, vote or die in those initiative that people are getting little people getting

Yeah. Well, I mean, I think it's, it's so consolidated at this point. You know, all the labels own

It's just the fact.

You're right, right, it that's the new radio, basically, the apps. The apps are the new radio.

Yeah, but Spotify is is is the is the the king and Spotify is the king but you know, famously makes no money. Now because it's it's it's like it's almost like legal money laundering. You know, it all goes through Spotify into the labels, they owned it, they owned all the stock when it went public. They don't they probably own all those crappy little companies that you have to pay money to to get on their

Just sayin, you have to be smart, but not too smart. Oh, God, no. That's a balance. It's like you have to appear to be smart, but not smart enough to read or record contract. Correct. Or understand what you're signing or now it's gotten to the point going back to my mission statement is is

Well, I mean, you don't if CNN is out there and available, you want to own it. You want CNN to push your message

that this is not at CNN this is it's the equivalent of young graduate brought up seeing in my uncle used to watch

Well, there's two, two sides to it. One is Rupert Murdoch figured out that you could cater to one side and be very successful with half the country. If we just talk about cable news, in this case, CNN feigned a little bit of oh, we're in the middle, but they're not in fact, being in the middle

Because hip hop is a counter culture. Podcasting is a counter culture is the more things become polished and perfect in, you know, the big screens and the $5,000 suits. Yeah, no, it's two microphones, two laptops, and a handful of clips, and conversation. And it's not a script. We're not

That's what we want people people want authenticity. But this is what's in our DNA. It's in our DNA that we want that

but this is what scares me because we're headed. I mentioned before that hip part of hip and hip hop is also hip, you know, being done, know what's going on, you know, what we call a woke, you know, being in the know, knowing what the slang is, when it becomes so hip. They have to dumb it down with drugs. And you mentioned this before. And in this time in the 60s that we're talking about psychedelics came, right, what's that came, and it kind of just

Well, now, what is the kind of ketamine ketamine is the new drug?

Right and DMT and you know, and they bring it back mushrooms, and I'm waiting for LSD to make another another circle. May did this, because they said they're getting too smart at the same time. I don't think the stupidity is natural. Let me just say it out there, I think is these kids are smart. These kids want to live in communes. I think it was called, they want to eat organic. We can't have this we have TV dinners that we need to sell. And Buick.

Yeah, no, yeah, you're right.

Yeah. Let's let's dumb them down. Let's drug them up so bad, and they're dumbed down. And then we'll put a bad rap on and live with Max. And that they'll go into, you know, like the hippies did, they'll go into the, into the shadows. And I got a strange feeling that we're going to see a repeat of this, but

all the more things change, the more they stay the same Mo

Yeah, it's just another cycle. It's a cycle. Totally, totally. Alright. 19

and talk about the Congressional Black Caucus

Now, there's something I have to bring up here. Because today, obviously, even though Hip Hop all all

This lends to the theory that Neely Fuller said about tacky, trashy, terroristic? Sonas Trump became tacky and trashy,

he starts winning

to a certain segment. Now what's been black conservatives and even the Antheil vote blue no matter who crowd right that was like, you know, Trump has some points put as soon as he became tacky and trashy and you want to run criminal and with terroristic? Oh, that's my God now. Oh, yeah.

Yeah, but will they vote?

Well, and we talked about in the show, it's not about voting. It's about not voting.

Correct. Not voting. Democrat. Yeah, you're right. You're right.

This is what has him scared silly. Because if it and this is how fast things move on, I hate to say it like this our side. Oh, I'll take skinny jeans, for instance. They're wearing tight pants. They're out.

I hear they're out.

Well, their legacy is still here. Because I grew up the bigger the better. The more fat the bigger your jeans, the better.

You're from the criss cross generation.

Yes, I've gone from cross color all the way up through Rocco wear jeans. And there were you know, you put two legs in one pants, one leg. But all of a sudden, skinny jeans came out of nowhere. And you baggy jeans disappeared. Or they became dad jeans just overnight. And when I'm not talking about the pants, I'm saying how fast the culture shifts to what's cool and what's not cool. It happens overnight. And this is the thing about being hip. Because what was hip yesterday

Yeah, it turned into a huge positive for him.

Right because it's multiple levels to this one is the people They are informed on politics and following whatnot, not just people that watch the headlines and and you know, watch clips on a news. It's like, Hold on This is unfair this is this is evidence of the to the multilayer justice system is more than two layers, right? This is evident that this is the educated This is the informed take. But the fact that Trump was locked up in Atlanta, and he got out, and like, yeah, now I'm

So I'm seeing this, you know, just from what I'm seeing what people send me, but is it really alive that way from your experience?

Yes, okay. For multiple reasons, because it's like, if you're a content creator, saying something controversial, helps you stand out. Right? So if I want to, you know, get views. I'm going to do something or say something that's so controversial. And what's the most controversial thing you can say? Yeah. A black person supporting Donald Trump, right? While being cool, is not common. So he was saying supporting Donald Trump or, or elders, Larry elders, races out

Oh, um, no doubt. No doubt. Yeah.

But you saw little Wayne and yeah,

yeah. They you

saw how they were lambasted for even taking getting out of jail. No, you're supposed to stay in jail for your Donald Trump and get you out ASAP Rocky, Little Wayne, those kinds of things. Yeah. So I'm sure the word went out and induced to tie that back into what we just heard of the politics in the record labels. I'm sure there was a memo that went out to say, no, no, no supporting Donald Trump. Now who will be the first artist to do that? Just like the F Donald

and he was loved by hip hop in the late 80s and 90s. New York Hip Hop guys, they were doing songs about we're incorporating Trump all the time, as you know, as bling as a measure of success. You know, like Trump Towers, you know, a be like Trump. I mean, that was an all the songs

because the lifestyles are rich and famous. Yes. Yeah. He is holed up in a town car, right. When a driver servers, right, you pull them up in the Lambo, and he got to the goal ceiling. Like Yeah, but what is that considered to owe money? That's tacky and trashy. Yeah. You don't do that? No. And that's why Trump would never was not allowed in a fail. That's why he was not accepted amongst his peers on his economic level, because he's seen is tacky and trashy, oh,

my God, they must be so afraid of that guy. Must be afraid of us are afraid of him.

Especially with the one time to that's the scary part. Yeah. I don't think we in recent history, I don't think we ever had our president that was gonna get elected and only was gonna serve one term.

Well, Bush Senior only served one term.

But I mean, he didn't come in knowing he was only gonna start with one turnout. No, no, that's a very scary position. 45 Savage. And even the 45 Savage. Yeah. When I said that people giggle and laugh and like, Oh, that's funny. You know, it's because it's lending to the hip hop. You know, the 21 Savage. Yes. So yeah, so that's funny, and it kind of diffused the Mind Control that was around Donald Trump. Yeah. All right, I

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We've talked about the crossing over of black music

go. Here's what sales psychologists have to say about selling to the Negro. The secret of selling to the Negro was expressed in one word, that word is recognition. Now, there's nothing unusual about that. People want to be recognized. They need recognition. That's basic in all of us. But perhaps because he's had so little of it. The Negro needs even more. He needs to feel important and appreciated. This need is a very real and

Oh man, this is I'm gonna just gonna guess that these three habits are, are used to this day just guessing

that would be a good game. I want. He mentioned the word psychology. So they sit down and study. I'm sure they do most people, of course. But specifically, the reason why I use this clip is to show you that they didn't want and I'm gonna say that's the capital they didn't want our music. Venturing over into their children's ears is why they built this wall up. But at the same time they want their products and everything Yes.

To the flower community. Yes, of course,

to the point where they come up with these three strategies of how to sell to the Negro and let's just see if they still hold true to and 2023.

To begin with. Most negros buy by brand, they ask for products by name, they're quick to turn down off brands buying by brand. That's the first important legal buying habits. Now for the second. When ego buys good quality merchandise, symbols of quality and prestige are very important for the Negro customer. This woman, for example, is buying fine crystal air, but she is also buying the admiration and approval of her friends and relatives. Listen to her thoughts. Beautiful,

It Right. And Kaya had a famous line to say we buy stuff just to say you ain't up on this. And that s Oh, almost ingrained in hip hop like these days. Oh, Jordans came out. Next week. Yeah, you ain't got you how do you get them next week? You know, like, but that that goes to show that these corporations understand how to sell to us and how we will receive being sold to so this is why you have small artists on with big record labels. Even though that regulator has a

you see the Nike movie?

No, I didn't. You gotta wait. No, they had a movie.

Well, it's a movie about Nike and how they signed Jordan. So it's really about Jordan and Nike, and how they you know how they changed sportswear. Because Jordan was signed with adidas because Adidas was cool. Everybody wanted to be with Adidas. It especially

at the time with Run DMC. Yeah, this is the association. I mean, I don't know. I haven't seen the movie. Well,

you need to see this movie. You need to see this movie. I am

putting on the list. You will love it. Yeah. But that's that name recognition. Yeah, Run DMC was associated with my Adidas. Yeah, so it would have been logical for Jordan to sign with Adidas, but it

was Jordans mom who convinced them differently, but only under the auspices that he got a piece of every shoe sold

as you're supposed to Smith course. Of course, but which you know, the funny thing is now when they sign these artists, the art is down to science. Oh, yeah. They'll have the artists there. The have the pin in the contract in there. Have you with your lawyer? Yeah, they paired you with

their lawyers, your

lawyer. And he's like they're sitting there am I gonna sign or not? Yeah. And then you saw your life who a mess. That's the you know, I'm signed now and I never understood like what's the point of being sign? I don't I don't get it. This

is the revolution where we're right at the forefront of value for value is happening.

Masterpiece said it best. He said two things. He said one, if they offer you 2 million you were four. Yeah. So that's always remember to always go to off you less than you're actually worth. And to say 15 50% can't pay my MF rent. So it'd be like, you know, I'm not gonna take a 15% deal. No, you save 15% And give me 285. You do my

15 it's usually like 4% over retail. It's not even 15 is much less. It's horrible, right?

So let's think we wrapped up with the How to sales just so we can get the mindset of how corporations look at black people how to sell tomb. But as always, there's somebody that doesn't go along with the program and I'm doing this is some my favorite people, you know, Barry Gordy with a mindset of, you know, honestly, the way he ran Motown, it's kind of hard do my show. I put the clip list together and I'm very critical. You know, it's a it's a it's a process.

You have flow charts and everything I know. I know how you do it.

So that's the thing and James Brown just just let

Brown is one of the very few entertainers who personally control his own fortune at all. He's tyrannical approach to his business affairs has shown that a black entertainers future we don't have any never be confined to singing and dancing for the white market. In 1969, the United States National Business league named him Businessman of the Year, he was quoted as earning $8 a minute, the Lord's advisor. He owns a fleet of 30 cars, private jets, real estate and radio stations.

yeah I feel I've always felt that James Brown's legacy was kind of lost in translation somewhere people don't realize what he did and and what he achieved on his own it's somehow that just just got lost I'm not I'm not I don't I think

it wasn't intentional because listening we were saying the black man was his own thing. No no no no no we want you to build something and sell it to us. And they also ruined he helped him ruin his image. Let's talk about it on the backside of this clip because I find it okay let me say it like this. What is James Brown other than music What is he known for? That but being a drug addict right

drug addict and he any died during past plastic surgery. Right but I would say the person that detracted him that brought him down the most which I which I don't I didn't know it was intentional was Eddie Murphy. I think what Eddie Murphy started doing James Brown somehow that diminished his stature. You might disagree

I guess I can see that I can see that because it became a punch line to Joe as it become a punch line Yeah, that's never good for you overall image but listen to this next clip and we're talking about on the backside what is so

for me it's my life it was my opportunity it was my knock on the door it was my only guarantee I had and still no guarantee cielo spiritual solace to soul as well didn't never seen a black man do his act so darn it so precise and usually about class last a class I mean understand the system not have anything to take into account mas which I don't have whiskey bottles and things. Like a lot of entertainers, I have a lot of drugs Ranma stable. I try to dress everybody by their last

now out of his mouth, not a lot of alcohol around him. Not a lot of drugs around him. But how did he image become synonymous with being a drug addict? That is a CNN I didn't know because I didn't add it in here. Because I mean, everybody's familiar with it. There's I think a CNN or headline news interview where he's gone. Have you seen that? Have you seen the interview before? It's I mean, it's pretty classic. I mean, I mean level?

Yeah, probably.

Yeah. So

I just find that weird how his image is taught so tied to drills but in that he's saying that he does everything with class. And drugs is not a part of it.

I have a James Brown story.

Please share

1982 I visited so I was not an MTV I was I was 82 or 83. I was visiting a friend of mine who I had a manager and him and my manager as a disc jockey in Holland. And he had a band called time bandits and they were being produced by Dan Hartman. Dan Hartman. I can dream about you didn't know Dan Hartman at all.

No, I can dream about you. You might have heard. I've heard that song before.

Wow, I really nailed it too. And he had a writing partner, Charlie midnight, and they were writing for Nona. Hendryx. And I think I think they they might have written a song for Tina Turner. And so he was also producing the time bandits and so I was invited to come along. and hang out and he had a recording studio at his dad died. He died of AIDS, a movie 10 years after that. And he had a recording studio in Connecticut at his house. And they wrote live in in America.

you may mention about Eddie Murphy, and his imitation of James Brown. I think James Brown hurt himself the most, because he stayed around too long. Possible. Instead, not in a negative way. But sometimes, you know, the, it's kind of like an athlete. Right? Sometimes you can stay on the field too long.

Right? Well, he really he should have got I mean that living in America that was in Rocky for I want

to say four. Yeah. Oh, man like that. That's where he should have

stopped. That's where he should have bowed out

but his legacy will never, ever be tarnished from the fact that he is the foundation of hip hop. Maybe arguably the original hip hop, MC. You listen to a big payback. Yeah. You listen to these songs. Will you listen to any of the

That's that's, that's what I saw. I saw the consummate professional.

So you can never take that away from you know, I mean, LeBron is going through this thing too, with the stand around too long. You know, it's sometimes you just have to go and I understand that you. If you got life in your body, you don't want to give it up. But sometime a game pass you by. But he's impacted hip hop, undeniable but the clout that he had in the 60s. This is a clip of him around. I don't know. Let

And Malcolm would have been gotten pretty radical.

And and when people got radical, and he would have said, they were justify, he wouldn't I want you to hear, right. I want you to hear Martin Luther King's take on Malcolm X assassination cover going somewhere. This I gotta I gotta lay some stuff out. 25?

Well, I think we have to agree that this appears to be the result of an internal conflict within the black nationalist movement. So the first thing,

let me translate.

See, this appears to be CIA, FBI didn't kill

him. This appears to be black on black crime. Yeah, that's exactly

what he's saying. Yes, I can tell you

that needs to be done is for a conference of goodwill to take place between black nationalist leaders. This was why I suggested a few days ago, that the followers of the late Malcolm X and the followers of Elijah Muhammad should sit down at the peace table together, so to speak, and discuss this problem and try to reach some understanding. I don't think I'm sure that nothing can be accomplished by violence. It only leads to new and more complex social problems. I think

Now who got blamed for this publicly,

it was a nation it was a nation of Islam. Members, that story, the narrative and you see now they're coming back and say, Oh, it didn't happen like that. And the guys that

This is a CBS News Special Report. Memphis is a confused and shocked city tonight. No one can believe what has happened. He was standing on the balcony of tomato Andy came out of his room and came to the edge of the balcony. And as he came out we shot the fourth we just got it's fatal. I beg your pardon. We just got the report that it's fatal. But the shine was the wounds. I have some very sad news for all of you and people who love

Okay, so that was not the Coronel were speaking at the end there. He says something died. I don't think something died. Or you can look at it that way. What happened would and I can I'm just putting myself in no shoes at that time. And please do me cover your kids ears. But that's when the Fuckit mode came in. It is like you killed Malcolm. Right. Then now violent, Martin Luther King and you and you say I'll kick you. Okay, black that was black on black violence as they tried to

was that saying, Say it loud? Was this that the song he was singing? They're

not as another song. Okay. But what my point is this is that this youth You know, you take out their leaders, you know, you can't you killed Sam Cooke. Okay. Then you killed Malcolm B. You killed Martin, you know, as a young person. You saw what George Floyd? Yeah, just one. Yeah. Yeah, one person that we didn't even know. And you saw that I imagine somebody that you seen on the television, aren't they? I could equate that to is maybe Obama. Yeah. You know, I mean of stature and status.

You know, just for Matt Harrison. Just for comparison executives for comparison

of clout in notoriety, you know, and just of being recognized, and to be non violent, and you're just killing one after another after another and the young people are like, eff it. You know what, burn it up. I don't care if it's mine burn it up. But I say this to say like you were saying about James Brown and his clout. The fact that James Brown could say Boston is amazing 27.

If you are tuned in to WGBH, expecting to catch Laurence Olivier's production of Chekhov's Uncle Vanya, you were probably more than a little surprised to see James Brown tearing up the stage of the Boston Garden. In Boston that night, it was like when the Beatles were on Ed Sullivan. I mean, it was a monumental event. During the first hour. It was so clear from the reports coming in

And this this I know because this is broadcast history. This is because they televised it. They televised the concert. Yes, that's That's why everyone was at home watching it.

To save the city. Yeah.

And it worked.

So does that mean that all the clip? Yeah, that yeah, that ended there. Okay, so what what we witnessed is the precursor to what we talked about in this show 17 of rioting in the theaters.

These films, they help quell those riots. Because remember, we had the Kerner Commission study and why we had all these riots. These films helped to calm that down. I called it rioting in the movie theaters. Because all of our anger and our anks we were able to meet and seeing people who look like us kick the white man's behind. And what was the subtitle of blaxploitation get Whitey for every drop of black blood spilled? A white man pays. He had a plan to stick it to the

I forgot all about that. Yes. Yeah. Oh, yeah. 17 Sure, sure. And go into a black movie theater is always an experience.

But the point is that they realize, oh, we put something on television or the movie screen that shows them no

Get right, stick it to the man

who wanted the biggest Hip Hop movie. Whoa, who's the man? Yeah, Dre. I love ya. So this is that okay, we can let them roll play cause play and it takes the it takes the sting out of it. And then we can select who we want to put on on the screen. We can make their heroes for not saying James Brown was that way but they learned something from that like whoa, hold on. There was less crime than it normally is. That's all it took was puts it but what we see now is rioting on your timeline.

Yeah, controlled.

This is where all I'm gonna go down the hate tweet. All sides, right. You're looking at looking for a scout. You know, everybody's looking for a scout. Yeah, I think you mentioned something. There was a Twitter replacement is not Macedon. But sky blue or something like them sky blue sky blue sky. And you said that it wasn't successful? Cuz you couldn't retweet? No, that was that was actually Mastodon you couldn't call us tweet? Right, which we call it ducking,

they completely completely controlled and like the Floyd stuff was, you know, it was during a pandemic. It's okay, go ahead. It's fine. Go for it.

Right and then come on back in and find somebody they all hate this person on social media and let's all find somebody and drag them that's another word. Let's drag them and this is the rioting on the timeline. Um, but what happened out of this is the youth stop looking for older people to beat a leaders race because it's like all this peace talk and upset it on here. I'm sorry. But if you hurt one of my family members, I ain't I ain't trying to hear no peace and by forgive you will

bread, where does the Black Panther Party stand concerning the weatherman, the SDS, we stand way back from SDS, the weatherman, because we believe that the weatherman actually has two axes rim to the weatherman, we think they call them both national x and we painted rim to his national action with a man has national reaction, you know, we think it is an artistic opportunist, the individualistic

early Chuck D.

And

Beiter have of his was Jesse Jackson. Yeah, yes, of course. Jesse kind of played that role between Malcolm misgiving between Martin and Hampton with the you know, with the Ryman but then he also had he came up through Alpha piggybacking off from a Martin. So you hear now, it's the next clip. And this is the beautiful thing about with the internet, because they leave the outtakes in when they posted stuff online on YouTube and stuff. So now we get to hear had an immediate?

ask the question again. Can you answer one more time but just say this 29

Tell me why you feel the approach of the SDS weatherman is wrong. I feel it is wrong. Just that said before. Just just said before, that's why I asked you again just answered straight was in case we use this part. Let's see. Let me ask again. Why do you feel that the approach of the SDS weatherman is the wrong approach?

nothing he was on the night 21 I believe Oh, really?

Oh, oh, wow. Yeah,

he was very young. Very young based now they said no, he can't. And he grabbed this was actual cream rising to the top. I the ashes comes a Fred Hampton Oh, of the Malcolm and Martin. They said no, we can't have that. Oh, no. Because it wasn't that. You know, I think you know, the well polished thing is he had that time and he had that. You know what? We talked about the infinite power flowing through them. And it resonates. They say Oh, no. And this is the black

Why do you think the weatherman SDS tried to link the Black Panther Party to its movement? I don't know if it was actually the weatherman of SDS, I have to say to do with the establishment press that has nothing but a tool of war Nixon's machine. We call them war, Nixon, because the whole world is penitentiary and he just wanted the whole world. And you see, these people have just an arm he uses for fascist oppression, you know, and I think that the these

that right there is what got him killed right there at the end

bars. Now. That's, that's, can we hear that again? That's bars. Here we go.

It was going on? We Yes, we do defend our offices, we do defend our homes. This is a constitutional right. Everybody has nothing funny about it. The only reason they get mad at the Black Panther Party when you do it is for the simple reason that we're political. And they don't want to admit this. There are a lot of young organizations around

See, yeah, that's that's the early marks or hip hop, right there. When you can say something like that, and it resonates and then it becomes a slogan or a catchphrase

that's dangerous

right there. That's, that's very dangerous. And you know what happens when he was taught like that 31

Good afternoon, a 20 year old chairman of the

Yeah, it was like 100 shots. Like this sprayed the whole department

legal and gets another death which angered more youth because now you took one of theirs. Malcolm Martin they were one of theirs but a young black person that they resonated with and that was it. That was it. Yeah. That was that would end that goes to show you what we're talking about here. 19 this a 1976 3053 54 years. We run around killing people.

Yeah, that'll set the stage.

And then you have a bunch of angry

black men,

black young men. Because it's okay. Yeah, it's like that ha right of civil rights and we've seen some progress. And now all of a sudden you do this in a couple years. You wipe out everybody. Yeah, you wonder why they're so angry. And and this is just to bring it in modern context. That same anger is brewing right now. Yes, as anger is brewing right now, I kept telling everybody when they broke that glass and 2020

Yeah, when the the umbrella umbrella people.

Yes. But the metaphor of civility? Yes. When that glass was broken, it hasn't been repaired. Now it's presenting itself. It's crime and outlaw behavior. But what's the context under that? Because you can say the same thing about the rioting of the 60s. Now, what was the cause of that, but we'll get more into that on the back side. But I think we need to think some more people.

Yes. And we do that with new money.

I like brand new money. I just I don't want any money around me. It's not I don't really have a new one that our brand than an old 20 That's kind of dumb. But there's something

So cracks me up No, no $100 bills here. But we do have a number of producers to thank, as long I will also thank some of our boosters and podcasting. 2.0 value for value. And right off the bat, we have Paolo Moore, who says are you insulated from cancellation campaigns waged by the Boulais and its affiliates. And I would say yes, Paulo because we're value for value. The way they go after you is after your monetization. If you have advertising they go after you

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All right, so we spoke about the black Messiah and J Edgar Hoover. And this goes all the way back to Marcus Garvey. No good. He's had this fear. Yeah, he had we talked about it on one episode. He called it a Black Tiger, I think. Um, yeah, he had a he, him being a self loathing black man himself. He understands the impact of the high infinite power. And he's, he's been very well, he was very active in trying to stamp this thing out because he understood the

Does our community and a lot of times on this program we hear the cynicism of the people about leadership, in that broad sense, black leadership, and it's almost like everybody's waiting for a shining black knight on a Black Stallion to come and rescue almost 40 million African Americans do we need to understand as a community that there will never be one leader anymore? I would not exactly agree with that. Okay. Because J Edgar

And Obama actually played into this team played into this. And there's an image with all the pastors and everybody laying hands on Obama. He's standing there and you have all these cards, you mean reaching and touching him? I would

say that even Rush Limbaugh played into it by calling him the anointed one. I mean, it was from all sides.

I forgot about that. That's so they understood. And this is bigger than black at this point. I know no press people are look here for somebody that can it's not about action. It's about inspiration. Obama saying change you're gonna believe in hope and change. Hope and Change just hope, a pitcher him with the word hope not. Right, inspired a bunch of young people to believe there's gonna be something better. Now that

it all the way back all the way to Cory Booker. Mo.

No. And did you see that pink outfit he wore?

That's why he asked me. Why was top of mind.

Tell me you're not interested in women without telling me you're not interested in that? Come on, Cory. Come on. Like it's pretty bad. Or we love you. But it's not that we have this stain for these people is that how can you be wired like I'm wired. And not understand how you're being used. every word I say on this podcast, this is part of the quality control. The thing is that I had to run it through the loop of how can it be misconstrued by my naysayers? How can it be used

that was actually me. We had some reproduction.

Because it's too good to pass. Oh. Yeah. So that's, that's my point. That's why we give these people a hard time because it's like, ain't their infinite power flowing through you. And we all have different types of infinite power. But ours is just, I don't know, it's just something that's unique to us. And like I say, everybody has their superpower. And every group of people have our suit has superpowers with that word, and that feeling behind the word like you said they yield from

Yes. Oh, wait, I have him I have my the You mean the the witness the eyewitness? Yes. Here he is.

This is James Brown, it is totally James Brown. That's why it resonated with people. But he didn't know why it resonated with him. You know, it's that whatever that the energy behind that you, like we felt it. You say like, yeah, he line,

a whole clip of that guy is phenomenal. He's awesome. He's He's absolutely on point.

And he's from South Carolina as well, you know, down in a you go. So there's something there. But let's get back to the J. Edgar Hoover. And Farrakhan.

Once that individual comes up and is crowned by God with knowledge, then a whole host of leaders come up around messianic knowledge. And so what I see today is no one leader can solve this problem. No one organization can solve the problem. But a great black man was among us, in the person of the Honorable Elijah Muhammad. And that man left us with a body of knowledge and a programmatic thrust that is bigger than Louis Farrakhan or Jesse Jackson or Reverend Al Sharpton. These are

Man, no wonder we had to make him go away to marginalize him. Correct.

And he never He even experienced of loss of the US air. Tom, in the late 80s when it came to Khalil Muhammad. No, they were he was more hip hop, the Farrakhan was. So these older artists, olders figures, it's hard to stay current. But it's necessary to stay current. Because you have to speak the lingo. And if you don't, you don't even have to speak it. But you have to be able to hear it. Because as we spoke before, about this generation, they have a hard time articulating

I knew that the great lack of most of the big name negro leaders was their lack of any true report with the ghetto negros. How could they have report when they spend most of their time integrating with white people? I knew that the ghetto people knew that I never left the ghetto in spirit, and I never lived it physically any more than I had to. I had a

The image that goes back to how to sell to Negro, the Gucci, that nice cars, and also the not being in your

grow up, grow up in it, that's what happens.

In not even grow. Yeah, but you have some people like the producer that wrote in and said with the credit card, and you know, it is easy to get what your back against the wall out. Like I tell everybody all the time before my children go hungry. I'm sorry. Yeah, I got to get it. However, I got to get it. Now. I have other ways of getting it. Because God has blessed me with multiple talents. But if I was not as blessed, I don't Can I don't condemn people for doing what

I think we're at that actuation on a quite a large scale right now in America. Right the world actually.

And it was very crappy Obama and I know I'm

even better than that is we we create them, we select them, we create them, we control them, we bring them in make it look like it's organic.

Right. And then we tie them like we heard with the politicians and the record labels, we tied them here at the hip, all to do what all to control that higher infinite power, so they can help our people hip hop, I'm gonna say it again. They can show the higher infinite power, so we can't help our people. That's the road and when it comes to me, as I was taught, too much is given much is required. I had to use his talent. And I told you they've been trying to get me since I've

black youth poor flocking to brother Clarence, like the world was coming to an end. And this is the same guy, the Nation of Islam fired and said he wasn't good enough for them. Now all of a sudden, they want to talk things over.

I know about the 5% I didn't know Clarence 13x

I think that's it goes here.

I get it. Yeah, sure.

That's the marginalization but his message is worldwide because rock him even melee mail on the message when he says a child is born with no state of mind block to the ways of mankind. He was down with the 5% nation. This is what they're this that that the message that was tied in with what Clarence was teaching. Also, when old our old dirty bastard get up there say Wu Tang is for the keys at the Grammys. This is what he's talking about, because Clarence was targeting

I've done the Greyhound from Pennsylvania to Florida. I know.

Jesus, you wish to get there last week

when the bus breaks and the pee just rolls forward from the toilet in the back.

Yeah, that's bad. So on that bus me and my brother coming from our grandma's house and my parents car broke down so they had to put us on the bus and I was nine My brother was 13 You can't do that nowadays you can't put it on a 13 year old and a greyhound sir but you know they'd had a thing where they could tag you to where the bus driver kind of like you know kept Oh sure. But it was it was two Gods on there. They were

Thank you for sharing that. That's beautiful. I love it.

Yeah, so that that's what you know, that's my goal. And honestly, people I don't do this for money is nice to get value back. But I was doing this before he was saying before I ever commoditize it because even with my music, I wouldn't let it be no pimped out. No, you're not going to take my beats and rap crazy stuff over. No, I can't, I can't stand for I can't, I can't can't do that. But 37 This is a young brother speaking in 1967

face. As you see the children greet the world and peace and they are the future generations, then peace. This is the work of the sons of Allah. This the work that come out through the to the add on life to generation to come ahead to be always in life. These are our foundation. We are here to save

To who's who's a Five Percenter and hip hop today, ma

Ah, I know Jay Electronica. He kind of strong line between the NOI and the 5%. I've seen Jay Z Jay Z know what's up. And that's the other thing that irks me I was a huge JD Don't get it twisted, huge ad fan when he was kind of like trying to be Barry Gordy. It's like, okay, you're gonna be a Rockefeller. But the answer your question in a short way is it's rappers you probably wouldn't have heard of, probably nobody can tell it. Like they I mean, nobody could tell like it. But

Because you think guys like Jay Z still slip stuff in that gets through that resonates? Oh yeah.

Oh especially the album with him and Jay Electronica may mean that I don't know, I don't know what the play is, but you can't not unsee what you see, but I don't know how he cannot see himself at the team person either. But I'm not in your shoes. But he always lose. I'm just, I'm sneaking in soccer open the back door. That kind of thing is, I

I have seen he has some I have some listening to do. Yeah.

Yeah, and this is the music is actually good. That's the point. Is not that all I'm listening to this because you know, kind of like when you listen to church music, it's like it's a substitute. No, the music actually good. And it was embedded with just a whole host. And me being a Christian. I'm not espousing their beliefs. What I'm espousing is, we have

And they all listen to mo facts. Every single believe so every single one of those comments. It is of course, but

what you know what though? That's, I heard some of that and no agenda when you're talking about Shut up slaves. And he was saying you're human. It wasn't your human resource. No, but what the girl was the girl saying when they're marching your human

pigs in human clothing? Yeah.

That's how they look at us is not an honor. Because like even Claire 30 as not now you're just not about race. Um, as much as it's about, you know, because this is the flesh through. It's about the spirit. Yeah. What time you operate. No, but I'm not to belabor the point. Let's go ahead and get into 3038. And this is more about Clarence.

To loyalists, who were always near brother Claridge, was a brother named Yoo hoo, who was like a Minister of Information, who was hardly seen without his boombox, where he dialed in, alternating between news and black music stations. No one had a bigger record collection than brother Yoo hoo, solo, r&b, jazz, you name it. He had it. But brother yoo hoo

Now. Once again, yeah, these intelligence agencies He's keeping their ear to the ground. keeping their eye open for that next Messiah. Megan is not gonna stop

makes you wonder about Ari Melber, doesn't it?

I've always had,

he's always reciting Hip Hop lyrics. Like you're such. You're so your sauce. Dude.

You're very he's a last. He's the least hip person. There is. Yeah. Reason why I say that is like it's not appropriate how he uses the bar.

Oh, no. Not at all.

Just cost you note a lot. I don't mean you will say like, you know how to use it. This is why you can have the clothes but you got to know how to wear it. Right. Exactly. Yeah. So I guess I would like to wrap up. And in all fairness, to let you know, I don't pick favorites. I don't have no faith. I think anybody should be critiqued. This is where I kind of look inside out at Farrakhan cuz he spoke about the 10% that the who say the Al Sharpton is in the Jesse Jackson's of the

the Honorable Elijah Muhammad said to us, that there is 5% Who are the poor, righteous teachers who don't believe the teaching of lies of the 10%. But this 5% All lies and know who the true and living God is. And they teach that the true and living God is the son of man, the Supreme Being the black man of Asia. They're also known as civilized people, Muslims and Muslim sons. Here is a small percentage of people who

You can't you can't you know, you can't keep your pearls to yourself. Now, you don't cast your pearls before swine either. No, yeah. But you, you you have to offer them to be had. And you know, and if it's not accepted, you just keep moving. But, um, that's the purpose. Now, I guess we can wrap up with 40, where he goes further into his point

goes of us who are in pursuit of that duty, have 10%, the rich, the bloodsuckers of the poor, the slave makers of the poor, they hate the 5%. They have control over 85%. So they

Shut that man up.

That'll make you very unpopular.

very unpopular. Oh, man.

Mr. Curry, I like to ask you one question before we wrap the show. Sure. Do you not find it strange?

That the talented 10th

Is is who they elevate is who was supposed to say black people is not a strange number. Isn't that the isn't that? Do you find that? Sure. I don't want to lead the witness. Do you find that strange or? Well, they are. Okay, hold on a second. Let me read this.

Let me regret the question because when you say talented 10th I'm thinking immediately about you being selected as one of the talented 10th But

that's the Boulais that's the goal. That's that was a WEB DuBois. Let me flesh it out a little bit. THE WEB DuBois plan was elevate tempers in our race. And now pull up the other 90% is these numbers. These numbers are five just strange, strangely coincidental.

I wish I could give you an answer Mo. Do you mean the 10%? The 85%? The 5%?

Yes. So let me I guess I'll just get my own question.

You're gonna have to. Okay.

They tell us count though your 10% to elevate the whole race. But what I know is the 10% is actually the bloodsuckers bogged down and other 85 blood so it's, it's like you lead me into that burning house? How can I trust them? They're the bloodsuckers. Where you can't lay is the blood. Now you see why I'm so hard and under blue light is not personal. Y'all are the slave makers.

And they know it. They know it.

And that's what I was asked. That was the you answer my question you say perfectly. Do you think they know or not? You're? The Of course, that's why I have a heart. That's why I keep my foot on their neck.

I mean, I can because it's funny because whenever you say Boulais whenever we talk about boo, like, I can't help but see Charlamagne tha God, he seems like the perfect example of the boot. Now he has Boulais above him. But he that's what he does. It's so clear.

And he's valuable because he's still hip. That's the that's the most valuable blue light right there where he has the vernacular of the of the youth. Yeah, and had the timing but if you listen to him long enough, you can you can you can you can pick up the 10% vibes on Boulais vibes.

Oh, for sure. So now let me ask you a question. We've had the higher infinite power. This was help our people I have a feeling we've got a third in the series coming or am I mistaken?

It's not a third in the series, but it's the continuation of this conversation. I'll say it like that. Because we haven't got to the bastardization of this higher inference higher infinite power. I had to do it in this way. Oh, explaining what the power was, and how it was meant to be used. But in the coming episode, we're going to talk about how it's been hijacked, manipulated, and leading people to death.

And that will conclude episode 94 of Mo FAQs with Adam curry.

And as I always say, pay attention to everything in

Mo I cannot tell you how much I enjoyed this episode brother was quite the education for me.

Always a great conversation with you out and I look

forward to the next time within the next few weeks. Mo take care of yourself brother. Stand you out alright everybody we'll see you soon right here on mo facts with Adam curry.

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