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Moe facts with Adam curry for April 5 2023 Episode number 91. Hey, did you miss? We're back with another

Hydro Adam,

a good mo How about yourself?

I'm doing well. Doing well.

I'm so happy to hear that now. It's it's been a man. Let me see the last time we did a show was I think February. I'm not mistaken, middle of February. And a lot of people missing us missing the regular shows. And Moe and I have been talking and kind of came to a conclusion that there was some big changes in your life. Moe. We started this show how many years ago? Is it been now? It's been for almost four years.

I think we're heading into the fourth year. Fourth year. No, no, no, no, we're headed toward the fourth year to the fourth. Yeah, exactly.

It's good. I remember because we first started talking when I was on my honeymoon. Right, which I remember. Remember that may 9, may 19 2019. And it was yeah, it was a violent man was maybe a couple of weeks after that after we were talking back and forth. And we decided, hey, let's do this show. Of course, things were very, very different than

That took my life into a whole nother trajectory that I didn't expect, and has caused some time tension. Other

also, you were forced into being an entrepreneur, I mean, you have, you had to set up a whole different business just to really keep some consistency going and your family fed.

That's correct. And what people don't understand what the whole vac situation and why we talked about it so intensely on several episodes is, it wasn't that I was losing one job, and you go to another job, for what field I am in, there's kind of like a bureau were blackballed for lack of a better word, if you're not vexed. And so I had to, like I said, Go out on my own be an entrepreneur. And that's consuming far more time than I thought it would. But that's my

And also, I want people to know that, you know, it'll probably take me so the reason for the time in between episodes is literally because Moe has to do so much work. Ben, it was different when you had the corporate job was easier for you to find time to do that.

Allow me to explain the mechanics of that across the four years of us doing this show. When we first started, I was an individual contributor at my job. And I could consume a lot of content podcast, as you know, people consumed a level of content is being consumed. I could consume that while running my investigations and experiments. And I could make notes of timestamps as I was doing it. And then there was a change when I went into management, where you're more in

And also, we, you know, we you never know what the future will bring. And of course, we become friends, we become brothers throughout this process, and you will always be in fact, it was, the hardest part is because the show has to be fresh and us not really communicating beforehand, that's always been my rule. And that work? Well, you even would not listen to no agenda, which is how we how you found me in the

you never know. You never know. And, and of

course, we're still valued for value. And we appreciate all the value people have given to the show, which has certainly helped income it certainly helped during the transition. But you becoming an entrepreneur, and we appreciate all of that. And we're you know, it I agree it's been to take this to 100 is going to be a it's also timeless, right? It's a it's a beautiful document, that that people will be able to

And that's the whole point of before we get to the wheel is that I want to make a product that you can start from one. And if you find it five years from now, if you're that one that found it five years from now, is still relevant. I try to unpack the history behind things. We hear a lot of surface talk, especially on the topic of race. We're not erased exclusively on this podcast. But that's what brought us to the

I'm very proud of the work we've done so far. And I can't wait to get all the way to one double. Oh man. Very exciting. What do you say? Syndication? Syndication we spin the wheel Malinche here we're gonna do today there is the

is it's okay to be white.

Oh, oh, this is a show for me. It's okay to be white. Nice.

Okay, Adam. We're not we're not sure with the whole Rasmus poem. And and Mr. Scott Adams data interpretation. Yes. We had to talk about this. Scott Adam was right. And Scott Allen was wrong. So we're gonna have to fit by The end of the show, we'll figure out which is which homeless and what he was.

Do you realize how happy Scott Adams will be to know that a whole show was done about this particular chapter in his life?

I hope he hears Oh, believe he will

believe me. The love hate relationship with with Scott. I mean, I'm a fan. But what he did personally, I understood, I think I understood exactly what he did. I got it, you know, I need to kind of know his situation. I don't know if it's, if it's unpacking exactly the way he expected. But he's in a position I think, to where he can, you'll ride the wave, whichever ways it goes. And then of course, I'm really excited to hear what you have to say about and

the thing about it is I don't know how you this is this is the essence of this show. I don't know what your tapes were there. I stopped listening. Whenever there's something I'm going to work on. I think it's going to be on the no agenda show. I stopped listening. Yeah. So I don't know what your take is. And you don't know what my take is. But we're gonna walk through this. We're gonna walk through some, some some history, as we always do, and why maybe his statement was

We turn now to the fallout from the racist rant by the creator of one of the nation's top comic strips. Newspapers across the country are dropping Dilbert and Stephanie Ramos is here with more. Good morning, Stephanie. Hi there. Rebecca. This isn't the first time Dilbert comic strip creator Scott Adams has made some controversial comments, but he is now experiencing possibly the

So first of all, not a single person reached out to me and said, Hey, man, you haven't done a show with Moe. Is that because you're taking Scott Adams advice? No one thought that no one thought that just

because we have an intelligent US producers. So I was shooting him. I said, that's what it is. He's taken Scott advice. So I had to be honest, the thing I was triggered about is the hate. Right, you let a minority of a poll. And I think it was really 13 Black people asked if my numbers are correct, somewhere around there, less than 20. That's more

than enough. That's just fine. And you let a minority

we're saying hey, they're a hate group, especially with what that term means. Now, we're not we're in a whole different world. When you start labeling people like that, that's all that's a hate group or that this and that. And then audacity thing, he could just join the black race, we didn't draft you in the race draft. can't join, you have to be drafted.

So here's here's how I took that one when I first heard it, and I'm going put it differently. In general, I like Scott Adams, what and I don't know really know him that well. But the only thing that I've never liked is the constant playing around because you know that everything he does, he's thought about, he thought about how he's going to do it. He's thought about, you know, what he's going to accentuate or exaggerate. And it's all it's all to mess with people's heads

It is tiring. And that's to be honest with you. The only thing you're going to hear from Scott Adams, other than two clips, is that is the mean, because what we're going to do here is examine him he became a mean, yo, yeah, he became a viral sensation. This is what he wanted, but he doesn't understand and it wasn't black people were really upset because I'm gonna be honest with you. A lot of black people don't

about that. But that's exactly the point that and that's that's the exception of all he had with what he's done. He puts the hate the word hate in there on purpose to trigger that's that's why he did that purposefully.

Correct. Which, I'm gonna shoot him some bail and bail him out. Sorry about that. It's a it's just one thing. I gotta give him the same benefit of doubt I gave Kanye Sure. Because he did the exact same thing I did is I have enough money where I could pretty much say anything. And it really does affect my day to day life. But oh, he was wrong.

Well, that's interesting. Because when DeVore I brought it up on no agenda. I said, I'm Scott, one full Kanye and to Warwick was laughing because he got it. He said, Oh, yeah, that's exactly exactly what it is. He went full Kanye. But I think he, he did it in a smarter way. I think he, when I saw him, and I knew it wasn't true. When I saw him go on Hotep and said, this is the this I did it all for this. I just want to have this one interview with you with Hotep. I'm like, Okay.

Right. Which, as for my take on it, I can't tell if that was a damage control, or if it was pre planned. Same way with Kanye, you don't know. Reacting to the the blowback and he's AKA, spin it this way. Now.

I think he was looking for the seminal black man to have a conversation with should have been you honestly. He was looking. Because Hotep gets stuck on certain topics, which I think made and go beyond what Scott Adams understands about black Americans. And I'm certainly the I mean, does he really understand the Hotep culture? I don't understand it

Alright, so let's go on and get to the second part of GMA clip,

Adam says he was only advising people to avoid hate and claims his quotes were taken out of context. That is things that I went on live stream and said, stay away from black people, every one of them. There's no exceptions, whatever you do, just ask yourself do it wasn't really thinking behind it. Yeah, what was maybe a why to that that you haven't heard yet? If you heard it in context, what do you disagree with it? And the answer is, I haven't seen anybody disagree.

Thank you, God. Thank you, Stephanie. Good report.

Thanks. So I don't buy that. There's no way you can take what he said out of context. Now you can say I was trolling to get attention, you know, to bring, you know, attention. I might be willing to say, Okay, that's a possibility. But what he's saying verbatim, and I've got it in the show a few times to remind us what he said, because that's why I'm a little skeptical. Because it's like, come on, like, how can you say black people becoming a hate group? And take that out of

yes. Particularly on like the subway. I've seen a lot of those videos.

Ooh, buses, the kid. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh,

that one? The kids? Yes, I did see that. Yeah. And you know, I'm intelligent enough to know, is one video. But I can also see show you Sixth Street of Boston, where it's everybody's beaten up on everybody, you know, it was like, doesn't matter what color you are. So that's awesome rock, we're also in just a very violent, upsetting time for people. So those people just pissed off.

And it's no context is no timestamp. No, because feral people that when you remove these from the internet, you know, I'm not with it, you know, it's free speech, put it out there. And now the victims want to, you know, take legal action, that's another thing, because you should be able to protect your identity from being you know, to create it as a viral video and be you know, have that follow you for the

yes, exactly, thank you, you exist spells because what you would no one can take into account is what the algo is doing. And you know, I've studied this a lot. And algorithms certainly on Twitter, are divisive. They are meant just the American media model is, if you're, if you're anything here, the opposite will be brought in to your timeline. That's just so and it'll be the opposite of what you like. That's how the general American media model algorithm works.

Right, and it's working very well. And another media adage that that was very popular is if it bleeds, it leads, I'm sure that is that's factored into the algo as well. And one more just to add some context and when he said the statement, right when he said this statement was the video of the legit kid, I mean, the kid allegedly attacking his teacher over a Nintendo Switch, right. That was simultaneously being said, I mean, happening when this is being said, I'm sure he

I also don't think, really upset he did not intend to communicate with black people. He was communicating with white people. Right, no one else and when he went on Hotep, he knows Hotep. God, white people watching. So I correct and I don't think he would even attempt to communicate with black Americans. Honestly, I think he's smart enough to know, I really don't know.

He said he was in the family doesn't mean so it's like, yeah, you're leaving a little bit of adversity. He just bailed on us. Okay, got it goes. So I have a local report. And this is from this is what I witnessed on my local news. And I wanted to play this because we know once it goes local, this is like, Whoa, it was trending on youtube or twitter or Tik Tok,

trending this morning, fans of the comic strip at zilver will have to find their laughs elsewhere. Global Media Company Andrews McMeel. Universal has cut ties with the cartoonists behind the comic strip, Scott Adams following his recent social media commentary on race relations, in air quotes in America. Yeah, Adams was responding to a poll asking black Americans if

And before before we talk about this, having been in corporate America and corporate culture Did you read about you look at Dilbert, did you identify with Dilbert corporate culture? I mean, is that something that they I mean, I've never really looked forward to the next Dilbert because I've never really been in in corporate culture that way. Right? Were you

I was more of a courteous fan. When I was reading comments, I mean, I haven't had a newspaper and how long so that was another thing that we don't buy newspapers anymore. I think he's bigger deals is probably with licensing and you're in the books and whatever. So Well, like I said, you aware who Dilbert is it's an icon you know that that that the head the artist style? Yeah. You know, the head yeah. Is iconic,

Who Yes, exactly, I understand. Yes. Precisely. Alright,

so I think I have two more clips. Let's go ahead and breeze through these two right quick and we'll get I just want to get your reaction to her reaction. Like she did her report now he comes to editorial information.

I'm so I'm gonna let me just say this. I am so disappointed. She black.

Yes, this is I forget her name. She's an icon in local news here in DC.

So I'm gonna let me just say this. I am so disappointed. And exhausted. Yes. And even with and you've got to consider the source here. Is this are the pollsters are they leaning one way or the other? Is this meant to divide? Is this meant to stir up controversy? Why even have that statement is okay to be white. Of course, it's okay to be white. It's okay to be black. It's okay. You know, and so the question itself is, for me it just a question meant to troll

Okay, interesting. So I think she's right that that Scott Adams is doing this because he thought the poll was bullcrap. You know that he's like, what is it? What is going on with these polls? I'm pretty sure he thought that right. For her, though. You know, it's not to does she really know not know what I mean? This is the first time I've heard a news person questioned a poll. Typically, it's always Orange Man bad. Yeah, we all know that. Oh, yeah. white nationalists on the

he fall for the pole busy dumb because he fell for the pole or the dumb because he he's a dumb white guy lacked awareness that it's okay to be white is a is a trolling question.

either. That's the point. He's intelligent. He didn't follow it didn't know. He was using it. He was using it and that she didn't see because she doesn't know Scott. She thinks the Dilbert guy.

Not only that, I think her ratio reaction is performative. You know, I'm exhausted. I can't really go home and his fall on the couch. It's like, oh, racism. Is so draining. Anything you do we appear or have to appear?

That's that's a good point, though. I mean, because you can hear her co hosts. I don't know if her co host is white or black. Just like to

know is the black, maybe. LGBT member? We're gonna hear a little bit later, but

But yeah, I agree. I mean, I've known you for a little bit here. I don't think you go home at home. Honey was so much racism today. I mean, yeah, you. Exactly. So, performative is a good way of looking at it. I agree.

And it's expected and this goes to show you, like, I'm sure not, I'm not gonna say I'm not gonna put this on her. But say, your white coworkers hear this. And you come into office, right? This has become office culture for a minute, is like just kind of standing around your desk like, oh, waiting to hear your reaction, like psyched to hear about the Scott Evans thing.

I wonder. That's a good, you know, I wouldn't put it pass some people in today's climate. Oh, man. Did you hear about Sharon me? Man, I hope Did she hear about Scott, have you talked to her about it? Yeah.

Right. Right. To where

we are aware of what's going

on, put it in a group text, you know, put it on Slack. So

exactly.

That's the thing that was this is why this conversation important because we don't do this performative. Oh, oh, hi. Could you say that? Oh, I'm supposed to be hurt my post be butthurt right now. So let me know St get to act. And no, I don't ask me. Is it okay to be white? Go ahead. Ask me.

Is it okay to be white?

I don't know. I never been white. No, I'm saying so if I answer that question, I'm saying this. I'm being flippant, but at the same time, if I answered that poll that way, now, I'm in a hate group. Because I don't know what was that mean? Most people to dodge that question. Look, I don't know what that means. You know, what is it? What are you saying? Like, is it okay, like being like, I wouldn't know, I never had the experience, or is it okay to me if you're white?

a, it was a stupid poll on the whole, the whole idea of it is just lame.

Alright, so dealer choice, you can jump in three C, or you can go jump to force your choice. Now

let's do three C, as this is more local, more local. More local stuff, please.

Yeah, it's It's remarkable. This, someone as smart as him with some low hanging fruit in that manner. Right. It's even more disturbing that he wants to really think he's racist. I think those comments on the back end about white people need to stay away from black people, because certainly that's not true, either. I think what you have is kind of the series of unfortunate events that have

So something just dawned on me, the most interesting thing that came out of all this, that I remember, I'm not sure if he said it on his own thing, or if it was on Hotep Hotep that he had. And he had never mentioned this as far as now that he had really reached out to Black Lives Matter. And he had said, Hey, I really want to do something want to help you and that he had come to the conclusion that was a huge scam. That that was really interesting. Because they don't feel heard that

was the heads up, Scott. Yeah, right. Was the cartoon that a lot of time a lot of money. With information. Good

point. Good point.

Which we had to remember Scott Adams is our was I don't know what his political affiliation now is. It was a liberal. Yes. By his own by his own admission? Yes. So it was like, Oh, now I can go join the blacks. That's the that's the weakest thing I can do is go join not not support the blacks. No, no, no, no, no. I want to embed with them. And it says their culture is my own. It's just that that it's it's like it's a jacket you can wear, you know, just like just to put it

Rent the Runway.

Right? So that's the thing, but with these people, let me be honest with you. As always, the blue light class, yeah, is scared if Black Black Pete white people don't want to be around them. They're like, No, no, no, don't say that. Scott, you know, what, if White people actually get away from us? What will we do? You know, because a lot of their lives is

I don't even know what he I'm sure he's hearing this. I know if he knows what the Boulais is.

The ones I'll say, I'll make it easy for Scott Adams. any black person, you know, personally? Probably I can't say is it's probably Boulais. Because the bank say what? It's this performative thing that the Boulais have to do that they have to be extra upset. And like said their whole existence is certified by whiteness. Look, at my degree on my wall, they're saying look at the neighborhood I live in looking at, you know, look at my friends and looking this kind of

What is fucking money according to Scott Adams? Well, this this concept comes from the regular workplace you know, from I think finance people came up with it first. And the idea is that once you have enough money that you don't need a boss, nobody can tell you what to do. You know, the public can't stop buying your product and her you because you have enough money already. Your boss can fire you because you don't need him. So you're not really free. Until you can say fuck you

Yeah, I disagree a little bit because I don't think it's an amount of money. I think it's also a mindset. Now, I think I have fu money I tell people to eff off, if necessary. But that's not because I have enough is because I have enough diversified income. I can person to go away, I don't need you. I've send money back to people. I can't believe I don't need and believe that. Oh, what's your pay pal? Man, I'm gonna send it right back to you right now. I have

this sounds like something I would do. Of course, because Go ahead. And the thing is, is we all aspire to have fu money. And it's not millions of dollars. See, this is the thing, it's in our game. This, this is where it's kind of takes a long time to show because I had to think about the clips was I

good point. Because it has indeed become this concept. Oh, if you mind that means you got so much. By the way, that all depends on how much you spent spend. I mean, I've had more than fu money, I spent it all. And it was great.

And the paradox is harder to obtain now, but more people have the fu mentality. This is why people are not working. Yes, it was a lie. It's I'm making it somehow. I don't know. You know, today, I have shelter over my head. I'm not going to work in that job. And you're saying to be told no. for X amount of dollars? No. I'll just f you know, I'll just float alone life. Yeah, you're right. That's the crazy thing like that actual people that can say it is shrinking. But the attitude is

And, and it's, I hear more and more like, work doesn't define me. Okay, um, then you should be a barista. Go ahead or whatever, whatever it is. You write, you write, and there's more like, what is the term not quiet quitting, but like minimal work Monday and that kind of stuff?

Right, the Great Recession, all of that was, I was given an offer that I had to refuse. In a way I had to say, fu because

you actually said fu you said fu without that net? You said no. I'm an American man. I'm not gonna be controlled by you.

It's too many opportunities out here. That's the thing about it and you have if you have belief in yourself, and not only just go back to last show, security comes within sounds like okay, I'll secure myself. So this is where we're at. And that's why I thought the show to be fascinating because it's a crossroads of a lot of different topics, but let's go ahead and get to a clip number five,

but you didn't necessarily have a boss for a long time, though. I mean, you were I mean, you worked with this company, but you're creating your own product and the product is rolling along. Yeah, I use boss

Which is pretty, pretty big.

Yeah, it's clear he shows us indoor tennis court. Indoor. Scott gonna be all right. I mean, let's let's not work, by the way. All right. I

think he has that I'm kind of jealous of his own. His floors are heated. Oh, nice. Yeah, I had that an Amsterdam one heated marble, but not everywhere. Not the whole house. His whole house has heated floors is nice. That is nice.

That's that's really nice. I will have a bowling alley though. Instead of Yeah, that would be something I have. But if you want to have fu money, I'm Alicia in a little tip. Control your debt? Yeah, a lot of us can say Fu. Because you have to car payment not to just I'm just saying that you have so many obligations, that you have to stay in a situation even though you know it's not best for you. And we saw this with me to all these other things. You get to a certain

are three different types of content as identified by first draft that is an organization fighting to bring you truth on what you read and watch disinformation, misinformation and Mal information. Collectively, these three groups are known as information disorder, let's start with the first disinformation is intentionally false. It's designed to cause harm, that's often backed by motivations to make money to have political influence or

I love I love that. That's actually misinformation in itself, because of course, we know it wasn't. It was an inside job. It wasn't the Russians. That was hilarious.

So mount information. Yeah. I think this is okay to be white mean, is mouth information because of the definition is genuine information share with the intent to cause harm? Yeah. Who would everybody would well according to the poll 80% of the people or whatever said it's okay to be white. That you know, that's the thing. Now my question to you the reason why I play this clip from the show ad is that what do you think? If

Well, I can only find it file it under manipulation Yes, I mean, that's what he does. He's manipulating it for he knows. I mean, okay, let me see if I can classify it. Now. Let

me go okay. Okay, let me I gotta go through him right quick is this information is you know, is wrong. You know, it's not you know, what's wrong, and you share why right. Me Information is you are unaware that it's wrong. And you share it right? And the amount of information is true. You know, I'm gonna give you a sample mount information from my standpoint, and this goes into this story. The fifth that 1550 thing, right, you know, 50 50% of murders is caused by

I mean, it just doesn't fit into any one of those categories. For me personally, because I know that

couldn't either I want to see I just wanted to run that by

manipulation. That's what it is. He's manipulating it to, to make a point to the point of freedom of speech, because I think I heard him we'll get to that, I'm sure. Where he's, you know, this is what it costs me to have freedom of speech to be able to draw what I want, say what I want and be who I want. Yeah, I mean, he paid a much bigger financial price, but then I did. Because I 15 years ago, I just said, I'm checking out you know, I'm just gonna do my own thing and do it with the Vortech

Yes. So now we got against it. It's okay to be

I am aware of it because wrapped up in Austin, you know, other places about say on like signs. And the minute you see that this started a couple of years ago, actually, I think. And it was immediately labeled as racist white nationalists who were saying this but no, it was it was the beginning of BLM let me just see if I can tell you how far back that goes.

Why you laid out so this this is kind of like the All Lives Matter kind of thing. Right? And whoever comes up with these tag lines or memes, or do you want to call them they're in genius and function

22 cars 2020? May 2020 I think is the first time we had a it was an Yeah, it was Van Jones I think was moaning about it. You know, so

it goes back further. Stephen it was like four or five years old, so I'm just gonna give you Yeah, so make America great again. Why all eyes matter? Yeah, when Kanye day white lives matter, right? It's okay to be white. If you respond that to that. You're racist. How can you know but how can you know? Whoever created it. You say Oh, I'm not I'm not with Magga he's like, Oh, you don't want to make America great again. Right. He'll say Oh, you don't think you don't think oh

it's like you just got to stay away from it because you're never going to be right is rubber

and glue man is rubber and glue so so let's go ahead. This is a local another local report. When neighbors get upset overseen the it's okay to be white flyer

flyer that's been making the rounds in one Beaverton neighborhood has some left wondering why our CO Miller looked into this. He joins us live from the sexton mountain neighborhood with more coal. Well, Jennifer, good evening. I'm told those flyers have been showing up on streetlights. And they read. It's okay to be white. One neighbor here telling me that this part of town is a melting pot, and she just wants everybody to feel safe.

White Lady, I'm guessing.

Yes, yeah. Yes. And this is let's go. Let's go and jump to the second part. And then we'll talk about the other side. This is this her being upset more

others around Beaverton Sexton mountain, spotting them to my neighbor Naomi. She also came across one today and sent me a picture image. That flyer it seems is not unique to these streets far from it. The Sacramento Bee just earlier this month reports identical ones popping up around American River College and in Florida. The anti Defamation League says a target employee plays this card with that same message in a box of diapers.

That's great. Here's this woman.

I am married to a half black woman. And this neighborhood is very culturally diverse. We have onions, we have Jewish people we have, you know, every color you can imagine. I love it.

Well, just just as a separate point, we have Indians, we have Jewish people, you can't say Jews. Notice she doesn't know that. And they're not

very culturally diverse. We have Indians, we have Jewish people we have, you know, every color you can imagine. And if it were me, I was up the street of my neighborhood. And I saw that I would not feel safe. And I don't want any of my neighbors to not feel safe. Summer says there's no place for any of that here. And once those neighbors to know, they're more than welcome. If you see these signs, that is not how we feel. That's not how that is not Sexton mountain.

It's so amazing. You see those?

It's so amazing how we for you know,

it's okay to be Indian. It's okay to be Jewish people. It's okay to be any color color people, as you rightly pointed out, but it's okay to be white. And that and that is I know that Dvorak and I laughed about this stuff on the show. By the way, no one gave up their donations or came at us with axes or anything like that. Like, come on a bit. This is performative, but unfortunately, this white lady really feels bad about this. It's okay to be white. Does she I think, Oh,

find it. I don't know. Call them bull crap.

The context is this. It's she, like, I remember I think as a kid, it's okay to be gay. I'm glad to be gay. I think it was that saying if you're glad to be gay, it was it was a hit song for a while seeing if you're glad to be gay. Sing if you're happy that way. And it was okay to be gay. It's okay to be white. But she is it's okay to be white. She just hears it differently. I think that's that's what she's hearing. And that's programmed into her maybe from her half black wife. I don't know.

What here's the thing is, and this is why it's hard for me to separate because the same way I said the news I was being performative. Will you see that sign? I think it's the good amount of people's like, this is what expected of me, you know, is I have to be torn up my day. I have to go get that sign and not throw it in the trash. Oh, no, Lord, I had to take it back to the house and shredded, you know, to show how broke I am.

That's yeah, that's the performative part. I guarantee I guarantee you mo I guarantee you, she felt horrified by that sign. The performative part I had to go shred it and all that and as I get the, the amount of psychological operations that has been performed on American citizens, I 100. I'm not gonna say at five by five, I believe. She feels that as a hateful sign. Everything else she did about it was performed, which in her core being she believes that is a hateful thing to say.

I believe her, I believe your take as well. But I'm saying to the degree that people take it too is where it becomes performative. Okay, I'm gonna give you a sample that's just like I hate litters. I think that's one of the dumbest things ever that you just chunk us out of saying I can or cut out the window, but I'm not pulling it over and going to get the cup the guy in front of me throughout. He's saying,

Stop, stop. So here's a white lady experience. My grandmother with the she was like Marilyn Monroe, man, she was badass. Drove convertibles had five ex husbands. If she was behind the car at a stoplight and someone threw some trash out the window. She got out of her car, she picked it up. She knocked on the window and said I just picked up your trash. So see,

see, that's the that's what I'm talking about. But I'm just saying for myself. I I detest litres. But I'm not. I'm saying she could attest what what she thinks is being represented towards that. But it's the performative Parson coming, I took action, and you go back to the office and like, look, I always say you had the little shavings, and a Ziploc bag and like see, it was saying this is why anti racism

agree, I'm just saying I grew up a middle white middle America, at least until age seven. But you know, there was back and forth. This was it was all performative. In the middle class, right middle class, white people would be like, Hey, man, keep America clean, and do this. And it was very, like, you know, you've got to do these certain things,

I agree with you. I agree with you. And I'll add to your point that the reason for the performance is deeply embedded, yeah, the knee, need to perform, you know that I just want to go over to my friend's house where some clubs regular clothes home, but that need, you know, to be accepted. And the reason why I'm stressing this point is, this is the cost is

Now, how about how about this matter, this meta part of it? Man, he doesn't give a shit. Maybe he doesn't care. So that kind of makes him actually in a way racist.

We shouldn't care because he had fu money, understand the social cause. He was saying the social costs to being the old grumpy old man is nobody invites you to the cookout in the neighborhood. It's like you can we can invite you know, say whatever, whoever you know, they say oh, you know,

well, little, little little secret. I don't think Scott Adams actually leaves his house that much at all. Well, it

Okay, so I'm just saying that to anybody that gets cancelled with money. People are how bad can it

be can you know can be bad? It can be very

bad. You get the worst tables. You get set by the bathroom. When you go to restaurants you can get on the you know? Get a reservation. Yeah, good point. Good. Robert. Scott. I'm sorry. You know, he's just been busy lately. So now,

I have to say one more thing. I can't tell you who told me but it was someone who knows him personally. And he's an I don't I Call Bull crap on it right away. It was. Oh, man ever since I did that life's been great. And I'm getting laid like crazy. Direct quote. I'm calling I believe it. I'm calling bull crap on

bro. Like it I'm telling you racism has a built in fan base. Okay, I'm not saying it's Arden is not may not be that large. I'm talking about people that look for new people to claim to like, Oh, this is our hero. Are you somebody else makes the same statement. Oh, that's our hero. Like Scott was the guy named Scott when it was named petite. Dave potently whatever his name is over at the sports gambling outfit. I don't know. Anyway, he went online

Yeah, yeah, I know he's talking about

it was him in the guy from MSNBC the old guy that's kind of like off his rocker right now. named Keith Olbermann with his whole recent thing college basketball. They said it lady was a was was it classes piece about bit are pointing to a ring? Yeah, it was she was pointing to the rain Taunton. It was a black girl, taunting a white girl and then they said that the white girl or he had done it earlier. Earlier game to

Do you agree or disagree with this statement? It's okay to be white mindblowingly? Or perhaps not, the vast majority of American adults agree 72% and 58% strongly agree only 12% disagree, and only 6% of those strongly. Now, 17% of Americans are not sure. And that's a pretty big number for a question like this, which shouldn't be a simple question to answer. To me, that is the standout number, people paraded or guilted so much that they won't anonymously

Wow. Where to dig this up? That's great.

It actually from their website, he went to like a whole hour it just get people to the name of the video and go found on YouTube. Rather than ends poll. It's okay to be white. And then the second part of this is about is who can be racist, which will may touch on another show at another time. But I'm not ducking away from that, either. But we will focus on it focus on if it's okay to be white or not. But yeah, he goes and breaks down the numbers. And as you can see, Scott Adams was wrong.

Right. Oh, my good boy. Here's, I mean, it's crazy that the Southern Poverty Law Center is now the gold standard of, of what is hate speech and hate hate, basically hate? Yes. And they're, they're the biggest hate group I know.

And they used to do somewhere or allegedly used to do so much good work. But yeah. So as he said, you might have asked white people, they don't know if say if it's okay or not. So the best thing is, I don't know. And you can have black people. Is this a trick question who was caught on my phone? And now you have these numbers. You know, that can be a fact that you can factor in the yeses and noes, but it's convenient to add I don't know the buff your number. Of course, of course.

We begin tonight with the supersized panic of the American right. Post Obama backlash may have escalated the panic more than 10 years ago. But then Donald Trump poured the freakout with gasoline. It was Trump who unveiled the racism and misogyny that was always there, but through it wide open, normalize the depths of the country's prejudice even made it fashionable for conservatives. Their vision of America crystallized online within our government to the post Trump age

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there's a lot in there, like the Confederate takeover of the Capitol and this. Yeah, that's what those black people and Asian people were doing. That's confederates, man.

You see that wind up though? Before she even gets to Scott Adams. She put the Trump thing on there, man. Everything, all him saying this and look, Scott Adams if he was being truthful. Thank you for being honest, the most, the best thing you could do is be honest with the person and I'll shake your hand. You all want us around, and you don't want to be around

I can't wait. We need some joy read. Let's go

Dilbert the widely Syndicated Comic Strip about office culture that appeared in 2000 newspapers around the world. You may be familiar with the comic, but maybe not its creator, Scott Adams. Frankly, I had no idea who the guy was, well, until he went on a racist rant on YouTube last Wednesday. I think it makes no sense whatsoever, as a white citizen of America to try to help black citizens anymore. So I'm gonna I'm gonna back off from being helpful to black America,

She's so annoying.

Thank you. Thank you for saying that. Because that's why I left that last part in there. And I really didn't want to hear from her other than that wind up. There Scott Adams is the representation you know, of whatever when he was just on your team not too long ago, right. That's that's the thing about is this. This team thing is not working out. Because this is you have to be a complete 100% loyalist. You can't have any diversity in thought so correct. But yeah, she is

Yeah, I mean, but also whoever you are, like, she knows exactly who he is. Yeah.

Six months ago, she would have been dying to eat dinner with him. Let's just keep it a buck here. I mean, we're gonna stop playing. Like, come on. Come on. So no, so just to bring some humor into it. I think the SNL had a good little

Yeah. Didn't have the Dilbert doll like the big doll in the on the weekend update.

Right he was actually a mascot.

Yeah, Scott Exactly.

Let's go here Jose was around the country are dropping beloved comic strip Dilbert. After its creator Scott Adams went on a racist rant last week advocating for white people to get the hell away from black people. By the way.

You know, the reason why they say in all television racist rant, these they love alliteration. Anytime you can do the same starting letter, you know, racist rant, you know, beautiful bootcamp. I just want to build

that better. Bill, thank you advocating white people to get the hell away from black people off the record. He's got a point here

Hey, Michael, Heidelberg, So had you ever seen this side of Scott Adams before? Michael, I think I can speak for myself and the entire all white staff at the Dilbert offices when I say this was a total shock. I mean, most cartoonists are weird, but racist, weird. Let's just say I didn't see that meme.

Michael Che is kind of he's always slipping and stuff like that all the way. Which and how do you feel about that?

With this particular one? It was his true look, making the Don Lemon. I mean, I think that was kind of because they have these clips of Don Lemon sand exact same thing Scott Adams is saying. So these, these media types, the intellectuals the first chance they get in this

did Don Lemon say yes, it's true. That what? Well, what I'm referring to is this black people off the record. He's got a point. Off the record. Yeah, point. Yeah, that part. Yeah.

Yeah, that's the point. Yeah, I just want I'm saying that, that kind of lends to what Don Lemon was saying, like, pull up your pants. You know, this is why our community the way it is, and sound a lot like what Scott Scott Adams did, and I have these clips. I didn't clip it, but just to give people a trigger warning, I have some Larry elder coming up. Like, he played Delaire. And he played the Don Lemon clips of him

Right. This just got me I got you. I got you. Yeah.

So that's the point I'm trying to make there. But let's go and get to the second part of this pretty good. SNL clip.

Now I knew he was bad. He made me go into the office every single day during COVID and he knows I'm auto immune. Your auto immune. Do I look like somebody who's not auto immune? Yeah, I'm a real athlete. My hair is skin Michael. Your hair skin? Yes. I cannot stress this enough. My hair is entirely skin. And it has been the great tragedy of my life. I'm very sorry. No, I'm sorry, Michael, for racism. Maybe I was just blind to it. I mean, my glasses are literally opaque white. To

I think they kind of nailed it. But

I was pretty good. And eerily when I saw this image of deer weird or this rendition of Dilbert is it intentional that he looks like the falling down guy? Remember the movie falling down? The guy just snapped. Yeah, he started going crazy when? Michael Douglas, I think, yeah, he had the sleeves rolled up the glasses. Is that a tissue and a necktie with the short sleeve shirt. You know, that kind of thing? Like, I wonder if it's, I don't know which which one to imitate.

I was gonna say, I don't know who's been around longer, but it is it is clearly the same character, the one who's going to snap him like, like Dilbert just did. blood draw the white man. Yeah.

And then what little factoids, and as I was reading Mike Lee Stokely Carmichael, excuse me, and, and Karl Marx, black revolutionaries. Well, we talked about Karl Marx, potentially being black. Yeah. Because he was called, the more we look at the pitcher, he could be, you know, passing. So, so I was just like, they slipped that in there. That's pretty. It's funny, because these people perceive it not to be true. That's what made it funny, but could actually be true. So I thought that was a pretty

good, you know, it's like if you could have thrown in the FBI guy, you know, what's his name? Right? Over? Exactly. Exactly. You could have thrown that in, but no one would have gotten that joke. Only us.

Right. So that was a pretty good setup. But yeah. Let's, let's go ahead and move on. I got like, I promise. We got some lair elders, and he doesn't disappoint. All the

Yesterday, we played the Dilbert comic strip creator Scott Adams, reacting to a poll by Rasmussen saying at this point because blacks have become so anti white. He wants nothing to do with black people who think that way. Now he mischaracterized the poll, most blacks in fact, 53% say it's

We have to for context, I don't think we explained that earlier people. Scott, when when it was like identify as identify as a woman identify as of this. And he was like, oh, identify as black that was, you know, haha, okay. And he but he kept that up for a couple of years, like identify as black. That's, you know, so he's adding that in there. Like, you know, I was black identified as black and I don't want to be part of the hate group,

which is provocative because it does bring up the question how you can be trans everything else is set racial. Which I'm sure Larry elders. Anyway, now, let's say I digress. But this is what makes it hard on Larry.

Like, the poor Larry.

He's the king of Mount information. 90%, maybe even not the 9% of the stuff he says is true. But it's the it's the way he uses it. You know, how can you say yeah, he was kind of right. After you say he missed represent the poll, and they you sandwich that in between what he actually said like, I don't care where you have to go, it was at Larry's like, that's what I've been saying, you know,

where does this actually air where does this Larry elder stuff air? Where do you get that on YouTube? Man? You got you got to? He's got a whole YouTube thing going on?

Yeah. So that's why I get it from she has a podcast and maybe even a radio show. But he's got the

whole castle radio show as you're doing this on YouTube alone.

I'm not sure I can't verify that. But I know for sure he puts these clips on YouTube, which like I said, 90% of the stuff he says it's factual. But it's the weaponization of it, you know, that makes

him so successful. I mean, he's contrary he's controversial.

Correct and which is no problem with what Ben That's why you run into the issue have when, you know, when you try to speak to black people, yeah. And bring the facts which like I say a lot of stuff he says is true, but it's the it's the it's the weaponization of not to be redundant but now we're gonna go and watch him deflect at night that's the only thing he said

rather than think Adams for saying out loud but clearly a lot of people feel including a lot of black people are saying and feeling so we could have you know a healthy discussion about this growing black anti white racism if not hatred. Adam is not counted.

stopped right there. He said instead of thanking him for everything that you just heard. We should be thanking him Larry I'm gonna say this that's a bold statement they're thanking

him so what he's saying is he's saying is true

what were hate group was part that's what I'm saying like Are you saying it's true

that the dead black people in America hate white people? That's what I asked

for not for that poll. That's the thing is like from the poll is saying it's it's amazing they get take a piece of information. The reason why I'm harping on this is to just bring home the scale point. They can play you the clip that he explained he broke down the whole poll, how it was being misrepresented by Scott and his people are Hager I've been

Hotep Larry been told you exactly.

Rather than sick Adams for saying out loud. We're clearly a lot of people feel including a lot of black people are saying and feeling so we could have you know, a healthy discussion about this growing black, anti white racism is not hatred. Adam is being hounded. Shut down canceled. And notice the most respected black leader in America says absolutely

on. Does Larry think Barack Obama is black?

Destined to make sure. be intelligent? Oh my god. Can you put that on our book? No,

no, no, no, no, no. All right, here we go.

Here's a man who got elected with a higher percentage of the white vote than John Kerry did four years earlier, who walked into the Oval Office a third week of January 2009, with a 70% approval rating, blah, blah. I love it. I love it. Why? Because even people who didn't vote for Obama felt that at the very least, at the minimum, he could bring us together racially, but he did the opposite. He said among other things, the Cambridge Police acted stupidly. No, they

that talk about performative but he's literally he's a performer. So no, slide. And he's funny. I think it's funny me it's funny to hear this like, okay, Larry,

he's good at what he does. No, no, don't mistake, my critique of him is not saying he's good. No, he's great. Is the fact that like, it's just that the mount information thing for me. Are you trying to, as I always say, are you speaking to reach or to be right? There you go. When I speak, I try to reach people. You know, that's why I always humanize people in let's figure, let's learn from this thing and not just come up here. We could have easily done this for four years. And I could have

But But then that was the Barack Obama Bruce Springsteen podcast, so we didn't want to do

every copycat after us. I just had to say like, this is, this is my victory lap right here. You folks, I'm telling you that what we're what you're witnessing, you're not gonna see it again. Because me and Adam are not ingrained prior to having the conversation where we were complete and total strangers. I know your public persona, but not to get to this level of conversation. No, it's not. I don't think it's gonna be repeated. But yeah, so that's, that's Larry, and finishes like,

oh, wow, the fan of the fan favorite of the show.

So watch how she walks the line, because I think she's, she's a journalist, I believe. And so it's one thing, she probably has friends that are friends with Scott or this kind of thing. But then she also has to stay to the performative black reaction. So I want you to just listen to how she we use our way through this.

Now he's trying to call himself being an ally. Obviously, some people believe that he's not, you know, I mean, you believe that he's been an ally, because I see the nuance in his in his conversation and when you go beyond just the you know, the the soundbite clips that you can pull out and make them look really crazy. I see what he's right what he thinks he's attempting to do on that spin that space. But I also feel

Can I just heard something I had her before, but she does the same. Her whoever's doing the call and response. You know, this is a call response many people talk about she does the same. Yes. From the guy on the local news report. Right? Yeah,

yes, yes. Yeah, you're right. He was

on that spin that space, but I also feel like he's very bitter as well. Yeah. And you know, if you live in a country where you're seeing people progress, like I'm sure in your space, you got a lawsuit so your your progression looks like oppression to somebody that's used to seeing you in a subservient role. So every place you turn we got up the President was a black man now we got a vice president they just put a black woman on the Supreme Court

Indian Yeah,

maybe. But this is what I'm saying. You know, to you and everyone listening, Nicole, that that that that foments into is jealousy. It's it's insecurity, its weakness, but in a mob setting, which we saw with the capital is deadly. And vigilant, you know, and you're right. You're

Wow, she I mean For joy read to take it to the Capitol. Okay. But for Karen hunter to do it in this way. And

by the way, you see where she started it though. Yeah. Well,

you know, this is very interesting. Well, two things I won't get to the capitalist. Yeah, well, first the capital. So, yesterday me, I'm driving back from Austin and I'm listening to some of the coverage of the indictment of 40 5am. And because they had nothing, they all too Oh, January 6, it's all that's like a standard thing. Let's just go

It's that you have to stick to the screw is dissonant.

I know, but it's disingenuous. And how come the lady on the phone doesn't say you know what, to just not block it? The skin color, but what I get,

that's the basis that's the

answer insecurity, it's weakness, but in a mob setting, which we saw with the capital is deadly. And I need us all to be vigilant, you know, and you're right, you're right. I think with this guy is nuanced, but all it takes is one group, you know, to put this on Reddit, and now they you know, he's their

Oh, she by the way, she's 103 years old because she saw it happen and now Nazi Germany she was there boots on the ground baby

you You're right. Yeah, you know,

what is that? Oh,

maybe she's right that we've seen this before Mr. Walt Disney. We know what you did. If you want to go there, but I bet you won't go there. So Wow. Wow. That's yeah, that we know no animation

and also you know, since when was January 6 ratio. I mean, if she had said, you know, like, Forget Joy read you know, so this is a you know, the tiki torches. Also farce, but okay, at least that would have gotten a little closer to racism, but January 6, I don't think that's that's been seen as racist as it been. Did I miss a memo?

The media class, specifically the black media class has been tasked with panning This is racist. You know, that was a she better get the people dealing with other white people. You know, that's, that's I looked at the capital.

She, she better read her memos. Because in case you didn't know it, can Hunter Black is out trans is in is January 6, was clearly transphobic.

Thank you. Sure. Well, we're done with you to the side, we know we got about 90% of your vote, and you're saying 2024? So I mean, we're good. We need it. We need to push the trans. You know, and and I want you since you brought up alliterations Larry elder need to update his his talking points because it's no longer anti white racism is reverse racism.

because because I would say a couple of years ago, if you said That's reverse reverse racism, people say reverse racism is racism. Okay. Yeah, of course it is. Racism is racism. That that's a good point. But it is now accepted as a talking point reverse racism. Interesting.

Let's just listen for because I heard him say it and I was like, that's, that's a good alliteration. But at the same time, it rolls off the tongue better than anti white racism and reverse racism ages just flows. So that's the that's the wrap on the what the happenings of the Scott situation, I think we need to Thanks for people now we shared the white

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monoliths countable noun, monolithic as an adjective monolithically as an adverb, I guess. Okay, a monolith is a well the original meaning it's a single block of stone, which stands vertically notice monolith as to origin. Okay, mono, one. And lists from lethal force. Yeah. Meaning a stone in ancient Greece. Yeah. Where it comes from Latin monoliths made of a single block of stone. Okay, and that's the idea of, of

Okay. There you go, monolith.

So it's just the group is bigger than the individual kind of thing. And I have some proof here, going back to the 1960s that black people have never been not to live but in a description white and black in itself, those terms a monolithic course, you know, to have it you know, it's, you know, this is white, this is black.

This is white, that's a good point whenever this comes up, but is it okay to be white? So excuse me, we're not a monolith. In fact, Asians are considered white.

When they're Asian see, like, that's the monolith, though they're the Asian, there wasn't the they have the acronym for now?

Exactly. There is just like, yeah, just

like the Latino and the Latin X and Latino communities. You know, they just lump them all together, which the, their politics is very diverse, that we've seen with the voting numbers, trans, you know, say that's a model live, it's like, you know, everybody, you know, everybody is tick tock teachers. You know, the trans community, in a great amount of lift is the gay gay community, you know, the LGBT community, you as you pointed out very early on not? It's not it's not

You recall in our last meeting, we discussed the problem with integrated housing. And we found out that almost 1700 negros are moving into Los Angeles, by 1970, they'll probably be a million vehicles in this city. And I know that people are concerned about this. They may not talk about it very often. But I certainly heard them chatter in church, when he said there'd be a million negros in Los Angeles, we shut it because we were saying, in essence, the majority

Oh, I like it and we forgot that. monoliths negros. Yeah, another great,

always a term African American, is that reinvent this term over and over again, to keep it monolithic, but you hear here, they shuttered shuttered with the idea that there were million need. Why? Why? Why? Because I don't want people to think they're like me, you know, look at them. If this isn't a this is the boot. This is the Boulay mentality, which is the I am different mentality. I traverse you know, I traverse

color, mono color well into

their community, but you can't come to our community we shudder to think of the thought of that. But I have more. Let's see another one.

Let me ask you Do you consider a das to be a monolith?

A Das is a designation and that's why I was so important important because I am a descendant of American slaves and the person that identifies with that has the same lineage you know we politics is different. Solutions is different you have communist you have Marxist you have capitalists, you know you have anarchy is you know, the political ideas is different. The thing with black misapplied This you pointed out yourself. Look how they do it. Brock

are political. All Yes.

All it's a voting bloc. Which a monolith did well block a stone was solid, you know, is indistinguishable from his other other parts. Right. You know, it's, it's, you know, so I just wanted to bring that up. Let's go. Sorry.

I don't know why that happened.

So let's go ahead and get into the second part of this fascinating clip.

Oh, my phone, I could do gooder. Because I really am not, and I'm someone else. But I just think with these people coming in who are not our intellectual Isa, nor are they of our socio sociological bracket. They're not to be a handicap to us, they'll find their own level now to sound like a snob, but I don't mean it this way. But they're used to living a certain way. And they might rise rise above their art. And might one day be out associates.

What? Yes, they could rise up, they could watch that not the definition of uppity.

Yeah, this is like I said, this is the blue light, I don't know who got their camera in there are pieces are getting together and play some bridge or whatever, you know, bring the camera. And we you know, we're going to talk about why it's a problem with these Negroes coming to Los Angeles. You know, right, we made it here first. And we've established and this is, we talked about this before. This was common in New York, Philadelphia, everyone black people were migrating out of the

We're not white like Scott Adams. We're different ways.

Y'all, we're totally different. We don't think it's okay to be white around here. Oh, no, no, no, this Imagine that. That's crazy guy, it blows the mind. You know, the thing. You know, you can be as you said, and I agree with you manipulated to the point where you're embarrassed by your own identity. That's a fascinating mind screw right there. Let's go and get to the third part of this clip. The whole

tone of this meeting is a way of setting us up selves up as little puppet Jesus's we can't help anyone else until we help ourselves. The Nico has had two professions, his own medicine, dentistry, psychiatry, and entered the profession of being in April. And many of us who have come out here to escape from this second profession of being a negro. And we are out here while they were working in our own field, and then we find out that here are the same problems are falling on the

your carpet baggers. Nice.

Yeah. You hear what I heard when I heard it. I was like, I knew they thought this way when you read books, like our kind of people. One of the best books written on the Boulais

you don't hear joy read play in this clip.

This is joy. Yes, if I was a betting man when these intellectuals get around each other, and they start to sip wine And now look, I say we're not like whatever trend is on tick tock or you know, when they look talk about drill, rap or whatever else. It's like we're not those kind wasn't, you know,

anyway also kind of like Fresh Prince of Bel Air.

Yes, it was that that happens a lot on this. This idea mentality. And he think about it Phillip banks the character was a drum in from Yeah, he was a judge but his parent was pig farmers from South Carolina. And that's just the point. A lot of these people I want don't use the word rain, but left the South, establish yourself in the city. Kind of got to some kind of point of stasis. Know what was ever going on. And we don't want any disruptors we don't he called them problems. You hear

black rednecks, who are they. These would be blacks who came out of the Southern culture and who carried that culture with them, a north into the end of the urban ghettos into the ghettos of the South for that matter, and who have not moved out of that cultural sense. over the over the years, both blacks and whites have moved away from that culture. But in the poorest and worst are the ghetto areas, there are lots of people who have not, and these kinds of,

color? Ah, once again, the same issue I had with Larry elders in a different way but in function. And it's not intentional. The Liberals are not doing it intentionally. This is where I kind of can't allow with him is the system of white supremacy is very intentional. Yes, fair. And one word government is very intentional in every one of their actions and deeds, letting their plans to let's throw that in there as

Oh. Really? No.

This is what happened to your teas cuz I'm guilty of it. You know, in southern culture, we pronounced t f is age like bathroom. You're saying? Very soft on the end of words like ti he was known as saying a roll that was like watch. He'll say like, Hey, We trim the ended out words and that doesn't, that doesn't identify lack of intellect. And this is something they do to black Americans. That because we speak with a different dialect, it seems as unin you know, lack

the BBC especially well, and when we started the show, I remember it just took me a while to get ready to get used to x. And it was really when I discovered that that is, in fact, the way it was originally written. Way, way, way back when that I felt really stupid,

and it's not been reported. I was like, why is it if I say ask or ask, what's the what's the difference? You know what I mean? Not you, but the person listening knows what I mean. This is like I don't say to a Jamaican person when they say tree for three. He's a dummy. Yeah, it was a it's like karada, we do this well,

oh, well, this is blah. It's almost like wow, that's a good question. Because you expect Americans to be monolith monolithic in our language. So that that's where it starts from, I guess. Wow,

I will say many mana lifts many my mi n. Because like the the the common was that the New England or Canada I'm saying they have a way of speaking.

We have these diamond DOS, guys. You know, we have all Italians we have oh, us us. Huge, huge.

No us like wow, oh, you like you use

us? I'm just thinking of Goodfellas with these huge dudes. But oh, no, that wasn't good fellas, that was my cousin Vinnie

might wish that showed the southern versus the northern event that takes race out of it. Yeah, that was that culture room. He was out there backwards thinking and you know, that kind of thing is and this is a struggle I have with being southern. You just want to take race out of it. We they be you when people hear your accent, they think you're at it. They just seem to push.

And I would say that, you know, white rednecks are without a doubt considered to be Oh, that you talk like

Black red is lesser than them. Yeah, you're under them. So this is yeah. So

what's the difference between a black redneck and a white redneck color? Same kind of people same attitudes? Oh, absolutely. Absolutely. And same kind of results. In terms of the violence, the the number of black the number of Chinese killed less than one year. And by Bob actually exceeds all the blocks flinched in the entire history of United States. In your opinion, what has to be done in the black schools or among black students in order to bring them up?

Man, what is this interview from?

This is from night 2005 interview on C span with Brian lamb and YouTube video was Thomas Sowell black rednecks is the title of it. But yeah, this is this is, um, we're gonna get deeper into this and the two points I want to make that came back to me. But yeah, this is where your T is go to. Because with anything, we mimic whatever's popular culture right now and ever since maybe the early 2000s, southern Hip Hop

you know that funk Sam?

Fam pod you know, we we've been doing this for a long time now. But it's just that it became so in

fact goals are in fact if I hear another one of these, one of these, these millennial Zoomer Chicks Go dropping the T's I can say that's cultural appropriation should be ashamed of yourself,

you could if you want to participate in that information now just say like, but now it's, it's good. It's, it's, it's not a bad thing. But there's a dip between conversational English and formal English. And this is, this is where we need to make the the distinction because if you talk to me in conversational English, it'll be more than here. Like I say, I tried to I'm doing a broadcast. So I want to make sure I'm clear to everybody. I don't have

You know? This is really funny now that you mentioned that to me. Now I'm hearing now and of course, you we've known each other for years. Now I hear you say most and what? I hear you dropping the T's as never it's never occurred to me before.

Yes, now not like say it's natural. It's not like I know it's a tea bear. I know how to spell the word, you know. And I'll keep it on. Just keep it 100 People is when you're from the south, you will hear your grandmother, aunts or people when your family came down from New York. listen to them talk and properly. It was a no show, you can now hit toggle and all that proper reverse racism. Right. So that was the thing is like we're conscious not to get too proper, right? as well.

Most of the adults who live in the tenement on South Ellis Avenue were born in rural areas of the South. They came to Chicago looking for a better way of life. They came to the south side of the city because they found that this was a place where Negroes were permitted to live. They came here without

so that's that's your black red net. Right? They are what they would consider the problem the problem that we're making shutter a person like you know, the funny thing is Thomas Sowell parents moved from the Carolinas, I think it was North Carolina, really to New York, and have access to more for One more education is what put them on a path to boo hoo hoo, he

but it's close to the heart you consider Thomas soul to be old school? Boulais?

No, they won't let them in. Okay, got it. You can work your off cold, he's off cold. Yeah, you know, we're, we're monetizing this blackness over here for our own games. And here, you can talk about some, you know, self accountability. No, you can't have stuff that's gonna mess up our our support base got it. We got to we got to keep them wanting more. So let's get back to speaking English. Let's get back to the Boulais. And this is the fourth clip from the wealthy middle class blacks.

Basic embarrassment that we as Negroes have, we want to live together yet we want to sort of scatter to the far wind and live amongst white people, we are born up in terms of this, that to have a dark skin to have to be a negro there is something wrong with it. And if you take a child and raise them by a child, very impressionable child, and having grown up in an atmosphere, where your color of skin is something that is looked down upon that there is something wrong with you that

Wow. Well, this is also colorism, of course, when they really really dark skin.

Yes. Which that that was a function in it as well, which a lot of these people were fair skinned.

Of course, that's how they did it. Paper Bag test. Yes, you can't come in, you're not part of us.

Just to remind people want to show that we talked about Beyonce his father, he mentioned how even at Fisk in the 1970s, they had a color test. You know, this is nothing. I mean, this is the sixth season that's after the fact that these conversations is happening. And in the book I mentioned before all kinds of people, the author goes into how he went to these sorority and fraternity parties. And on the outside, it was like

This morning, I don't look in the mirror and say you are a negros therefore you will face life in a certain way I see myself as a person just like all the people that I work with. And the children that I deal with. And they're all people are got the brilliant idea of this consciousness of you've got to look in the mirror face yourself to go from this bit about being a Negro is very nice. Individual this concept was instilled in

doesn't have still kind of exists. The colorism aspect. In fact, oh yeah, the the N word is in fact used to describe often a very dark skinned black man.

Well, the N word now describes more mentality. Okay, then then a color but I would say yet distinct colorism still exists because look at politicians. It's a guy named Ford. out it's on MSNBC. Oh, he's really really first.

He on on the five on Fox was a different Ford

that he might he might be moving around but I'm just saying I know his last name is Ford. You look at I think it was being Chavis the mayor out here. He was running for governor out here I think in Maryland. A while back? Um, yeah. If you look at these politicians, especially the older older ones, yeah, there is a color is a colorism thing and

Yeah. What does it You're right. Right.

This is why Black publications are so important. Because my beauty standards were set by jet beauty of the week, it was a U turn. So you got the jet was like, let me see what's going on. You saw women that looked like you, but were beautiful. And you saw women on perm boxes. That's a bad example. But hair product bottles that were a representation of our beauty, not through the lens of whiteness, and I hate to use that term, I cringe just using

woman I fell in love with was Cleopatra Jones.

Right? I think that goes.

A lot of favorites. She goes, it was badass man, she was so badass.

And just now we gotta go to darkness, Francis quest Wilson, and discussed do black people really want to be white,

we have been taught under white supremacy to demean and degrade pigmentation. So that's, that's a mistake that we can learn from it. Like I was say if you know black people, black people in this area, were given a choice. I could say black people all over the planet. And given a choice if somebody said, Take this pill, and you could become white tomorrow, that the level of self hate of black people on the planet has been so great that 90% of black people would want

This is actually now one of my favorite clips. We've talked about what she says supremacy but of course, what we learned what I learned is white supremacy I find it very important to to pronounce it differently from Neely fuller Jr. subarna MiSeq. And what she says here is that really it's been the elites who have SIOP the world for centuries. Probably because they own the medium printing press, you know,

Oh, of course. I mean, because there's this gradient so white, don't get it twisted because blonde hair blue out white woman, a ginger appearing right? Oh, yeah, even it's not a whiteness, you know. And when you watch television shows, the heartthrob and this is going when I was growing up. The heartthrob had to be the blond haired blue eyed. Now you know in the group now you had a brown boom there's your

Aryan race. There's your Hitler's, you know, blond, blue eyes.

Cray. This is where this is where it comes from. And when we go back for people To go back and listen to show 14, I think we discussed it, that when you lock people into these tenements and projects, and you put on anything you put through is the image of white America because And back in those days, the 60s, you know, you only had two broadcast channels. Yeah. And you only had Leave It to Beaver and all in the family and there was no recognition.

Wonderful people are on their way to the beach. Right? 60s television.

That's the thing because this is where they do. White people are so called white people a disservice. Because everybody thinks y'all have everything you need. You know, it does everybody right? Who's rich? You know, on television. Look at owl, but I'm gonna give you an example. Look at Al Bundy. He sold shoes. Yeah, he had a two story house. And his wife didn't work. Shoes. How does that work? You say like, you know, how does that work? I know it's tribute.

Psychological Operations, man.

And another example and the one that we got to move on is when you watch these house buying shows, you have one lady likes a part time pottery person. And the guy's like a teacher in an inner city.

Yes, yes.

I know, nearby, like a $600,000. Home. I'm like,

wait, wait, do they tell me these shows aren't are fake? No.

No, what it represents is because we need to if I was a person that just bought stuff on surface, it's like how the hell did you say I'm a teacher, and a part time pottery person about a $600,000 home, right? It just gets Oh, you know, that's that's privilege. And but the system, as you said, they own the medium. And this is what they constantly got to pump out to now. And now what you see is I was trans everything trans is right, you know, a trans person

Yes, the white supremacist do this in all nine areas of activity all of the time. Okay. In other words, the way to confuse people is to lead them to have questions with no answers. That's what confusion is. Lots of questions with no answers. Why is this happening? Why is that happening? What are

I mean, he's so smart

and the reason why I bring you to the show so often in the back end is going to be heavy with him because logical is not his emotion is not you know, he's not even come up with solutions per se. His role is identifying what the problem is, you know, somebody else has to solve it and really all people can solve it ourselves. You know, you have to your control your actions. And this is where seven habits come in for me because being effective is the only reaction to this system.

no, I just bring me more Neely, fuller, Jr, man, love him.

Alright, let's get to the second part of self esteem.

That's what self esteem is, doesn't work against you. Your self esteem starts disappearing, when you are doing things that are working against you. I mean, it just starts slowly easing away from you, so that you don't have any left. But also called self esteem comes from you. You know what to do you know how to solve problems. So you basically that's it, problem solving. And that's where self is Same comes from, when you get through the place, you have a whole lot of

Wow, man. It's just so good. How do we what can what is him within our power to stop that for everybody? For All? Obviously it affects everybody. How do we stop that? Besides Okay, okay, here it is. Yes. Be

proactive. put first things first, begin with the end in mind. Synergy, sharpness style. What's that seek first to understand then be understood? More often? Yeah. But it made the seven habits because it's, it's what I do. Not not the environment, not everybody else not there's gonna be this messianic leader that comes along where he's orange MAN, or the next MLK or whoever else, I have to be effective. And the only definition of effective is realizing a goal that's

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All right, so this is where Scott Adams was right? Here we go. And I'm back here he's backed up by Mr. Neely. Fuller, black people should stay away from black people, according to Neely, fuller, and I support this. But unless it's one condition going on, and that's if whatever you're working out is constructive. If he's not constructive, stay away. And that's what Neely fuller says go ahead and get into 34.

This is to be expected. But we should understand. First of all, we are programmed this way. Black people are toxic. All of us are toxic. We are loaded with poison. Because the system of white supremacy puts that poison in us even before we are born. And when we are born, we are born into the system of white supremacy. We're not born into a system of lala land.

Wow. My brain my brain just blew up.

Toxic. Wow is and unless you're getting together to be constructive. You should avoid each other and this is where a validates my school of fish flock of birds with haven't mentioned in a long time Yeah. But as fish in a school respect each other's space, they acquiesce and move out of respect of the other fishes space. Now they're moving together, where there's a proper distance that's maintained between each fish. And that's the point why use the the school

But we have to admit, first of all, we have this poison. And then we immediately should jump to what do we do about it? Well, the first thing you do, you don't want poison to spread. That's, that's a part of physics, the laws of mathematics. If you've got paws on one hand, you don't want to poison the spread. How do you keep the poison for spread, you make sure that every contact that every black person makes with every other black person has a plan beforehand, to do

Do you think the elites of the world know this? Know what? Well, I'm just thinking about

it. We're full of poison. Well, they pop out poison 24/7. So I'm right,

but a nude Yes. Yeah. Okay.

Yeah, no, I'm just I was dead. Adam. I mean, this is B, they won't you did. Or to agree with him? One of the other you know, and it's the very, it's very hard to set that fat. And if somebody won't, if you're not fitting what they think is supreme, they want you dead, one way or another, you're gonna say it doesn't matter. So yes, I think they are aware, because the system is designed, and it this is not happenstance. And at the bottom is where it materializes, the clearest. And

an interesting way, in an interesting way, you're making a case for the Soros sisters. Because, you know, because of all of this taking place, black people have had a bad run of it. And they're always getting blamed for all of it. So we need to go easy on

know this, and that's the that's the mess. That's the media misrepresentation of the facts. Well, I don't want you to I don't want to be your experiment. I don't want my neighborhood to be your experiment and say, oh, is letting felons out?

No, I agree. I agree. But that's what they're using.

Yeah, of course, it makes sense. You're saying if you look at it that way, but that's, yeah, that's crazy. It's Don't be confused. They're confused. They know exactly what they're doing. Just like not to harp on the trans thing. They knew exactly how it was gonna sound when they came out and supported trans people after this shooting happened. Right. They knew how it was gonna be taken. And I want to give one example of I think people miss understand what's going on this

Kareem Abdul John Pierre Van Damme?

Yes, her. She's very good at her job. People say oh, she's not she's dumb. She's this is that she's there to gaslight, you. You'll ask her a question. She asked another question without batting an eye. And what does it do frustrate you to report you want a part so that he knows this is this is how they've been dealing with

how they spin people up particularly white Republicans.

But maybe a spinning us up like that? Yes, for a very long time. Because like I said, they showed us all these cops shootings the same way. They showed the violent white crimes. Now, the algorithm force fed this on black people to the point that they were radicalized, and no, we don't want crime. And you know what the good thing like Thomas oil was referring to, there is some change. People are coming out now say we're not witness crime. And you know what that benefits

For the problem. Reduction solution.

Exactly. I just so happened had this crowd build, it might solve your problem, which is only gonna make the problem worse, because falling into fathers and this, this goes through the roof again. I'm just saying like, repeat repeat history. So and so that leads us right into this thing where they act like they can't solve the black problem. I'm more than aware of whenever white supremacy gets tired. Or they can work you into the corner to ask for what they want to do

and the funny thing is pretty reasonable. And you'll hear people say we're never letting them do that to us again. And I think though don't worry, you will you will you

beg for your demise. Yeah.

take me take me up to a higher level here. Mo I'm getting depressed

it this is this is nearly fuller talking about how they can wrap all gangs up in one afternoon.

Yeah, they train it oh, just like they train their black people. So they you know, they tell black people join a gang. You want to solve your problems, join a gang, you know, and kill your neighbors. I mean, your neighbors all look like you. That's what I want done. So y'all go at it. I'll sit and read the comic book while you look out the window. Why y'all doing it? You know? ain't none of you got no sense? I tell you everything that you need to know. You know, so I'll give you

Now break that down. So people understand because I got it because I've been around you long enough.

What he's saying is that whenever they want to solve the problem, or quote unquote, outright crime, a mayhem they can do it do it in one afternoon, Chicago, Chicago, what we saw in New York 33 arrests in one day. It was it

was it was Fox News embedded embedded. Reporter on the beat with him. Uh huh.

Well, we go in there and you know what the gangs know this. I will be honest with you. The people is attacking white folks, the black people, they crazy. Crazy. I mean, literally, because every self respecting and black person or you can't go around hurt white folks and get away with it. So they got to be

That's why you would not think about messing with me. I don't care how bad you're supposed to be. Prove that you're bad to each other. I'll let you do that. In fact, I taught you how to do it. Keep at it. Because that mismatch. Okay, that's the white supremacist. All the black people out here robbing and, you know, we know who to rob we know how far we're

true. So yes, I'm just saying so the criminals know. But what's happening is you have a spillage and for several reasons you're having with gentrification people going into neighborhoods that were typically quote unquote, urban. And criminals, especially homeless criminals or mentally ill criminals. They're not leaving. They're terrorists or,

Yeah, it's interesting or higher. You can see now that the like gentrified East Austin, cops won't even go there. Correct. That won't even go because you know

why? Because the main people that were gentrified was one they want to defund the police will show you blue flu, flu. What he wants to do, he wants to come out here and mediate. Now we don't do that you call us and you're saying to get it pick up the dead body. Yeah. And that's how they look at it. And there's another thing that I mentioned before, but this is one of the strategies of confusion, and it's called White sacrifice. I know people looking at me, like mo there's real

racial white sacrifice, confusion, white sacrifice, yes. Meaning when you drive down the street and you're looking at your car window, you'll see some white people on park benches, you see some white people who are out there barefoot in the wintertime. And you see some white people walking around talking to themselves and whatnot, and don't have anything. I mean, and you say, Oh, this is racism is over.

White sacrifice and greatest example, that is the January 6 prisoners.

outstanding example.

Criminal Justice, nobody would come to say it nice. They're still in jail.

But I noticed and if you notice, they let the ringleader so called ringleader the shaman, they let them out? Yeah, same day 45 was indicted. You know, kind of make sure we don't talk about it.

Correct. When I'm just investors what and it's something I didn't put it in the show but I just want to address it because this goes back to those black people in the 60s that was making it the system has to gas gas gas and brake, they have white sacrifice on one hand it shows white people in the White appearing people in a bad light. Right just show that there can't be any racism because white people are being

Oh, the black guy high high you know people like you got to play this you got it. I said, you know, there's something so wrong about what's going on right here with this guy. The way the way that

black people don't for the fall all black people about to take the fall. Like No Other fall you ever seen more dependent?

This guy? I mean, he he was nominated for FAA. When not Commissioner, Administrator, yeah. And he has 00 aviation experience he have never worked in an airport has never, he probably hasn't even flown that much. And I gotta tell you the questions that were being asked as a as an airman as a pilot, I had to look a few of them up. This was bullshit. It was it was but it was really so raw.

And tandem, that was white sacrifice and black showcasing all in one because I'm sure that a white person out there is more qualified than him. I'm sure there's a black person more qualified than him out there. But they highlight it to show you. We're going to highlight somebody who's incompetent in their field. I don't know that man's past. I don't know his history you're saying but in that field, he sounded very incompetent. And how they presented him this do

That's the issue. Like, reverse racism. wokeness wokeness, wokeness like, oh, I'll just wait people.

Where do these people come from all of a sudden, why are they being set up? Take the fall. All, you know, I mean not not to get into the details of it. I'm just everywhere you look, the Vice President, even the president, he's incompetent. Everybody's incompetent by design. Yeah. So when it's all said and done, they can do just like they did with the war in the Middle East, we didn't know, we didn't know, they didn't have massive weapons of mass destruction. Everybody gets

holding the little file,

don't drop that cake.

I tell you're gonna lift me up Mo.

As far as I am, because I like it. At the end of

I sure hope people listen, I sure hope they do.

And let's hear about that cost in the racism. This is John H Bracy. And I think it's a it's a very telling clip, to wrap it up, you know,

so that was fun and more effective to say that racism is not free for anybody, you know, if you paid a price, you know, for what has happened to African American people, that you're not getting off scot free. And that if you still believe in white supremacy, or any hints of white supremacy, and not at the absolute top of the socialist, you got to go

I would say I see that all everywhere around me. Absolutely. 105 by 510 by 10. completely true. And people don't see it, and they're blaming it on the wrong things.

Yeah, so I mean, but I have faith that the further further they back us into this corner, you know, is going to create some kind of understanding, and which is seek first to understand then to be understood, this is what this for your conversation has been with me and you that I pick your brain, you pick my brain, you fill in some blanks for me, I fill in some blanks for you, and we become better people out of it, which makes us you know, Santa's more likely to be

I hope everyone looks at us. We're free men. We're American men. We don't take no crap. Nope. If you don't mind, I think that's exactly that's part of it. You know, and we are always trying to be productive together.

That's the whole goal of so that's my wrap on Mr. Scott Adams, and used to give some sand in the background and hopefully here's the show. And he has a better understanding because I'm speaking to reach not to be right. So

I hope well, we're looking forward to hearing from Scott TP might someone's someone's gonna send him this hill. Listen, I'm sure he will.

I hope so. And as I always say, pay attention to

and we will reveal ourselves once again. On Episode 92, which would be in a couple of weeks we'll try and let you know ahead of time. Please remember us mo facts.com mov fu nd me.com For mo funmi.com mo thank you so much man. I enjoyed it as always.

Thank you as well Adam,

and we'll talk to you very soon right here on mo fax with Adam curry and tell them Take care everybody bye bye

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