84: More or Less

All the glitters is gold is now we use what you know facts with Adam curry for July 16 2022 Episode number 84 Well the summer media schedule of trauma based entertainment is in full effect time to take your breath. Let's get educated shall we? Adam curry coming to you from the heart of the Texas Hill Country time once again to spin the Wheel of topics from here to

Northern Virginia. Please say hello to my friend on the other end ladies and gentlemen, Mr. Mo facts how you know Adam, I'm doing good mo how are you? Being busy man other than the yellow jackets. We were talking about this just before the show so most like we were trading stories we haven't talked for a bit. How you doing? Yeah. Oh, yeah. Yellow jackets in the wall. Trying to eat through like candy man.

That's horrible. Now are they poking their heads through on your side of the drywall or not yet? No, no. Where the wall was kind of themed. They haven't made it all the way through yet. So there's been covering me. It's secure. What is his lie? What in the world? I know insects. It's the we're both homeowners now. That's That's what that's the joy of it. You get to deal with that crap. And it's not so much the insect. It's how the women folk respond to it.

Yes. No matter what you're doing is like a coke cube. This is like recording a podcast. I know. I got a broken leg. No, I don't care. Come kill this. Queue this. So all right. Well, I guess we should get to the topic. Oh, really? Oh, okay. All right. Most foreshadowing it is all right. Everybody round around. It goes where it stops. Nobody knows except mo he knows obviously. What is the topic thermofax with Adam curry, episode number 84. And the word is dis Genex. Hold on a second. Let me list

that word again. And the word is just Genex. desist. genic dis Genex? Well, this will be something that's in the show notes for sure. Once I go to the wiki PDS will be explained or it will be explained. Take a guess. But maybe I should just wait. Yeah, God was early. Please, I can't see any more record. Oh, no. But what this will be is we're going to look at Roe versus Wade. But we're not going to add in the current events. We're not going to talk about abortion. This is not an abortion show. So

that'll be the title show title. This is not an abortion show. Right? Because I don't think either one of them is qualified to have that discussion. That's just my personal opinion, because but I'll just leave it at that. But what I wanted to talk about is the powers behind the overturning and who is the cause and effect? Ah, okay, that's what I want to talk. I do want to correct you. Yes, men can can have babies. So I

just wanted to make sure you were not in my booth. We're not qualified, but I just didn't want to point that out for you. Okay, so this is good. So I cannot wait for your take on this. Because if there's one thing that's been discussed and discussed almost a death, it's Roe v Wade and 95% is meritless. And bullcrap. And just as trauma based entertainment. Correct. So we're gonna go we're gonna pull back the rug. And look what's really going on behind the powerplay is behind

this whole struggle on both sides. So I guess we can go ahead and get started with a giant step back. Good evening, everyone to begin to read out tonight with a giant step backwards. For women. That's free people in America. 50 years ago, progress was made when the Supreme Court announced their decision in Roe v. Wade.

Major story today. Aside from the death of Lyndon Johnson, the tragic death and the hopes for peace and Vietnam, is the decision of the United States Supreme Court that handed down a historic decision about abortion. The court set an 872 decision that the first three months of pregnancy only the woman and her physician may decide whether she may have an abortion. In the second three months, all the state may do is

regulate abortion procedures. And only in the final three months of pregnancy can the state for bid abortion. That was an historic moment for women. Only the third official affirmation of women's rights after the right to vote in 1920 and the legalization of birth control by the supreme In court in 1965, the 1973 ruling on abortion told to women that we're not the government control our bodies that women get to

make their own decisions about their own lives. And now that era of basic human rights and dignity for women has been ripped to shreds. It's Oh, I heard a little tear at the end there. Yeah, so this. To me, this was no surprise that this came down, because that's what was the whole big uproar about the courts and how it was, quote, unquote, stacked with conservative justice 45 Savage even promised, He said, Oh, no, I'm not gonna get as many Supreme Court justices on two, maybe three he even said

and then Roe v. Wade will go back to the States. He said it everywhere, just like Joe Biden said he'd shut down oil. She got to believe what they say, you know, it he was very open about that and not and as I mentioned in previous shows, I think that was to his own demise. Trump talked about earlier. Yes. For his reelection, because if it hands on him being reelected, to put the new justice in, oh, yes. If RBG would elastic, post election, then they would need

it Trump in there. But the fact that she aspired on the timeline that she did it, you know, it gave the Republic quote unquote, one on one column, the traditional or conservatives or Republicans, there are justice without having to deal with the BS of Trump. Right. That's an interesting take. And I don't recall immediately if it will, that point certainly didn't come across to me when we discussed it, and we discussed him. And that's, that's a good take, like, how hard do we have to

fight because we got what we needed. And quite honestly, that was one of the big selling points of Trump is that he would put conservatives into the, on the Supreme Court. Right, so they so they maxed out. So I mean, that was just my take on it, you can kind of read the tea leaves, what was going to come in. So let's go ahead and just get into the US clip three.

And now that era of basic human rights and dignity for women, has been ripped to shreds, with a leak of a draft opinion from the Supreme Court overturning Roe v Wade as well as the associated ruling Casey versus Planned Parenthood. The Supreme Court has confirmed that the document obtained by Politico is in fact, the authentic first draft. In the opinion, Justice Samuel Alito doesn't mince words. It is a blatant double

gleeful rejection of the past 50 years. Quote. Roe was egregiously wrong from the start, its reasoning was exceptionally weak. And the decision has had damaging consequences that far from bringing about a national settlement of the abortion issue. Roe and Casey have

inflamed debate and deepened division, unquote. And with that, the unelected Supreme Court shaped by minority rule has taken away right but the majority of Americans support it's not the final draft, but it's very likely that the actual

decision won't be any different. Alito is ruling rests on the argument that quote, the Constitution makes no reference to abortion, and no such right is implicitly protected, taking us back to the time of the founding fathers when women were considered barely more than the property of their fathers and

husbands. There's no telling what other rights this fundamentalist court could decide to take away next, in order to get us back to the founding fathers, from birth control to gay marriage to the many other rights that are not specifically enumerated in the Constitution. This, this was well prepared. And I'll go back to the ruling that took place in Texas, which, in which I truly believe the Democrats let the Republicans in Texas have the abortion bill

they wanted, which is the heartbeat law. Okay, and because Devorah and I were discussing on no agenda if like, what is going on? Why? Why did Why was there no fight, there was no fight over this. So it was clearly set up to make a point knowing that somewhere down the road, maybe there's a lot more insight than you know, we had a leaked memo, what, six or six or eight weeks ago, but this was probably known within the system's leaky so

everyone knows everything except us. Of course, the media won't record anything. So I think that well set up in advance was unelected, the Constitution is old. Somewhere, probably you have to throw in the term. It's a living document, you know, these types of terms. All of that is in this joy read script. Yes. What the talking point was, the Constitution is trash. Right? It's Remember that that was the whole attack on the Constitution all of a sudden,

that's all I'm saying. Yeah, it's a living document means we need to be able to change it and interpret it, according to the Times. Right? So it's just so much going on here, that if you notice, when the all the justices were going through their confirmation, based fast on Roe versus Wade, so you know, if it had been numbers, they're going to take an opportunity for it. And I agree with what you're saying that it was a lot more before the memo drop. I think soon as Amy Amy Kony Barrett was

a confirm. They knew was only a matter of time. So I agree. I agree. It just we were distracted by so many other things like rash, Depp and Amber, her trial. I mean, that's Hello, we had other stuff to look at. And as you said, the Republican or red states were pushing for, you know, changing their state laws. So they will be ready. So when Roe was overturned, it was they already had laws in place. Remember, I think Georgia had one where all the stars say

that? No, we won't go there. Because the, you know, their new bill or whatever. So right, and companies were pulling out and all and other sports events. Right. But I think Major League Baseball was one of those. Yes. What was as you heard that you heard Jordan recite that was a lidos. quote that she was reading, or him saying or his take on the overturning of Roe v. Wade, who was who was gone kind of unscathed in this whole opinion, because it's all been focused on Clarence Thomas, of course.

What I had to take a couple of maybe relapse here. Geez. Because, you know, we were ahead of the curve, you know, you're from the future, you know. So, we covered Clarence Thomas. And previous shows, I think, a couple of shows. Oh, yeah. Because, in in, in actuality, he might be the most powerful matte black man in America. I think there's a case to be made for that. Sure. I mean, cuz the fact that he kind of I think he's the most senior person on the on the court right now. Yeah. I think

so. Um, yeah. So, and the fact that he's not the Chief Justice, but he's he, I mean, for ever since he was the oldest right, though I've been saying. Ever since he was confirmed. He was just always quiet in the background doing this thing. Never really out in the public eye that I can remember at all. Really? Yeah, because the liberal media wasn't gonna give me any airtime. And I mean, that was part of his like, well, let's go

and you hit it right on the head. This is going to get to number four. Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas spoke out overnight saying the publication of that leaked draft opinion about abortion has fundamentally changed the court and it comes as abortion rights rallies are planned nationwide. Today NBC is Jesse Kirsch is in Chicago this morning where 1000s are expected to rally there, Jesse. Good morning.

Good morning, Peter. Organizers are expecting that and we're seeing the barricades up here already in Chicago on the city's west side. The near west side. This is one of several events planned throughout this country today part of a bands off our

bodies protests in support of abortion rights. This is just one of several events that are also rallies planned in New York, Raleigh, Cleveland, El Paso, San Francisco and many more cities in between today's protests, just the latest since that draft Supreme Court opinion leaked earlier this month, and for days, we've seen groups both in supportive and against abortion rights, rallying their sides, and some have even gathered outside the homes of certain Supreme Court justices,

prompting calls from some Republicans for those protesters to be arrested. And now Justice Clarence Thomas, the latest justice to comment publicly on this week draft opinion and what it means for the future of the Supreme Court. We're now that trust or that belief is gone forever. The end when you lose that trust, especially in the institution that I'm in. It changes the institution fundamentally.

Man, I love that guy's voice. I can't get enough. He's got the James Earl Jones type thing going on, except he has more clarity in the ties. Nice. But yeah, his pace again leads to what you're saying about his lay back and sometimes to his detractors label as lazy. Which has some racial Yeah, that's racist. Yeah, of course. Right. So um, yeah. So they had protesters outside of the justices house at home,

which is completely illegal. It's you legal, but there was a wink wink nod nod from the liberal media to show them and it was like if this is illegal then why are you showing it but it was to show it to more people to go out and do things did the Department of Justice hasn't hasn't done anything. As in you know, the any policing of this. The DC cops aren't going to touch you. They're around. And of course, there was an actual there was a guy planning an attack on I think Justice

Roberts was Alito. Camera Camera cabinet. Well, we gotta get, we gotta we gotta get to that. Go to show you that there was a build up there that, as you heard him say, they were ready to protest and the group name was banned all for our bodies. Yeah. That's boob that. It's like, That's so crazy is like, you know, they purposely lay with like bands off our bodies, like boom. Even catch that. So good. So subliminal, I love it. They got humor over there. That's funny.

You gotta pay attention to boobs. But let's, so let's go ahead and get to it. This clip is from our own balance with Leland better, better. bitter, bitter, bitter, bitter. So I'm gonna get into the liberal attacks and say outrage, outrage focused on Clarence Thomas. Of the six justices Thomas didn't write the opinion, nor is he a woman in fairness, he did write that other civil rights precedent should be looked at in light of Roe being overturned.

He's getting away more heat than Justice Alito who said Roe was wrongly decided to begin with here is Hillary Clinton this morning. I went to law school with him. He's been a person of grievance for as long as I've known him. grievance, anger. And the thing is, well, there's so many things about it that are deeply distressing. But women are going to die, Gail. Okay, so even President Trump's appointees who shifted the court to the right,

don't get that kind of treatment from Hillary Clinton. Ian Samuels here, former clerk to the late Justice Antonin Scalia, and obviously spent a lot of time with Clarence Thomas, among others. Why? Why is this? I was literally racist. What'd she say? Oh, angry black man. angry black man. Everybody stand back. Right. Right. And no, I mean, she didn't she couldn't leave it at person of grievance. No, it hadn't. really had to be. She had to double down. Yeah.

And Clarence Thomas, he reminds me Justice Clarence Thomas, because of respect on his name. Um, he reminds you of the dude, the black dude from the office. And leaves that his name's Yeah, well, you're there. Oh, you're that that? Oh, did you set in your ways, and I'll go move on my own time, like, even when you say what his speech is very measured in, leaves you hanging on for the next word. Now,

if I may say. We've also discussed Stanley from the office in another context is a very stereotypical type of older black man who was just dying slowly. Correct. Not Clarence Thomas, as far as I can not class. That's the thing about him. And that aspect is I think he's been very ambitious, very ambitious in the way he's you're saying he's played, he's played his hand. Because you noticed, the Supreme Court had no didn't want to touch the 2020 election? For

no reason? No, it's like, no, we're gonna keep our powder dry for when it's time, and that the time is going to be given us the rights back to the States. And what this is to do is actually, in my opinion, this is just my political calculus. And I'm saying here, this is to protect red states from being invaded by

blue people. to Texas, I mean, I think you and I have discussed that I've discussed it with friends Devorah and I have discussed it that eventually we would learn what states rights are all about, you know, it had to happen. And I like your metal look at this like, okay, because even people I have friends of mine who would say they're unaffiliated, but aren't just more conservative in their demeanor. They also like and Trump, you know, we got what we

needed. We got three conservative judges. So yeah, go ahead. They're building political borders around their state. Oh, yes. And if you come here, you won't be recognized as a couple. You won't be able to get an abortion and you go down the list of things that they'll turn over back to the states and that's the only way they can protect the invasion. California is like into Texas and you saw that kid new saying could possibly be the case with Florida or Florida saying like

it's the weather, Scott. Yeah. Like now is we have to put up these political borders. Interesting. Another thing I hadn't thought of, I love what you get a few extra days mo it's well worth the wait. It's a lot. It's a lot going on with this. But here's the thing, though. So blots of Californians have moved to Texas. Now, Austin, of course, not entirely Texas. And there's definitely a joking type animosity. But there's people around here in hill country move from California. And I haven't seen,

I understand what you're saying. And I think you're correct. But boots on the ground. There's no actual difference. You know, it's it's all written in, in the books. It's, there's not actually anything that has changed at all. You can still walk around as a gay couple. None of we have restaurant owners here gay guys. Nothing has changed. So that's that it is, oddly enough. It's all just on a different different frequency. You know, people aren't in tune with it. They

don't give a shit. But it will be important from a legal perspective. I come back. That's, that's that's my point is the legal aspect of it, where it why people don't have start business in certain states and look for saying the advantages to starting your corporation in other states, right is the same thing. It's like we have to keep because if you don't do that, it's like you can't have more than you can't have more than six dildos in Texas. That's illegal. I swear to God, it's

true. It's actual law. You can't have more than seven sex toys is good enough. Someone said, you know, we got to put this in because if this other thing happens, we'll have the dildo law to fall back on. You look at hilarious Yes, it's hilarious. I don't I don't understand why it is but maybe I'll get a knock at the door and they'll explain it to me how they keep tracking it isn't like their self report. When we

bought back let's get back on the topic. But yeah, so Clarence Thomas, obvious target, because they knew it's funny that you everybody got to see what I've been saying for a long time. That when you make a livable man, it doesn't take for some it doesn't take very long to get to by the N word, and we won't see him killed and it was publicly accepted. I pointed this out before with with Kanye, like it was perfectly okay for him to be called Kuhn. Yay. When he gets kicked off for Instagram for

comments, Trevor Noah Kuhn. It's like well, yes. Okay. I obviously you control the media, you know, the trying to control the food, it's control. It's and it's not even the the quote Democrats, it's a sickness. And on both sides of it in order to get a car in this. If you look at who on the, you know, Sandy, pro, Roe vs. Wade group, they're putting a lot of black women out there, out front, like, you've heard the sound clip, and I didn't add this to

the show. But, you know, that was part of the row hearings, but it's, they got to TransUnion or what's a woman that kind of thing? Yeah. And you see the faces that they're using. So you're saying the be the faces there? So that has a lot to do with the attack? Is this flash on it to like female professors, etc. Right? They've been given the green light on Clarence Thomas, is like, you know, like, they say, oh, yeah, we're not gonna we're not gonna say anything, you know, you get

pretty much raised as you want to with him. Because you're asking folks ain't kinfolk? You know, that kind of thing. Wait a minute, roll that back to me again. So what exactly are you saying? Because of who they're putting out there to defend men being women. How does that relate to Clarence Thomas? No, what I'm saying is, you just see the overall that the academia is putting black professors black, you know, female professors all over representation of black women.

Yeah. Yeah. But then how do you how does that relate to you can go after Clarence Thomas. I don't quite understand like that whole COVID. Right, gloves off, because they understand that he what he's coming for next, and it's not that he's coming forward, from my understanding, and we're gonna get to somebody else's understanding in a few clips. That is about the core overreach. In what they're allowed to do, the way I see the court is they're the referee between the other two branches

of the government. That's how I see it. Okay? I mean, and referees had to be protected at all cost. Because, well, yeah, if you, if you refer the referee, the referee, then you get you sit on the bench. Right? But not only that, but you got to have them be unbiased. That's the whole role. A referees whole role in a in a game well, is to be unbiased, you know, by the rules. So the three branches of government have equal power. The bias? I don't know if if, if bias, it doesn't really matter.

I mean, all they're supposed to do is interpret the Constitution, interpret constitutional law. That's all they have, that all they have to do. And that's, that's what's being perverted as the understanding of the law. You know, it's like, well, back when the Constitution was written, and the men the the Bill of Rights was put in the amendments. People only had cannon, so the right to bear arms meant something different. So Right. So it's really what

I'm saying. I think it's really more not left or right. It's more it's interpretive or traditionalist. I think those knows that. It's it's not left to right, I'm talking about I'm talking about to between the other two wings of the government, you have the executive and you're saying you have the Congress that represent I think Congress represent the states, in my opinion, I President represent the the executive or the national agenda. That's, that's how I see. I mean, that's just how I see it.

So how I see it is the Supreme Court should actually be the referee between the two other legislative branches, and the end the people, which and the States, I should say, so here's all this crap going on in Washington. And we'll interpret if what they're doing is okay. Right. So we may be saying the same thing, just in a different way, but he did get his understanding you had. That's why I'm saying that you had to make this point understood because a lot of the

show rest on that. It's about the court being protected. And being unbiased, because that's like when they when you when you start hearing the Supreme Court having leaks. Oh, no, that their genders day, right, right. Yeah. It's not about like, how they come down on different decisions, is the fact that they're calling the game fairly. And that's the whole point, like a judge or umpire or whatever. I mean, like, that's the role of these things. And,

yeah, let's keep it in sports. I think you're right, because the minute a ref, or an umpire is in the national media with stories, then it doesn't even have to be related to the sport. And that's just a problem by itself. Right? It ruins the whole integrity of the game. Yeah, cuz it's like like this leave, continue with the sports analogy. That's like the home team showing up at the refs at the Rams house before the big game is like, of course, it's gonna be on his mind.

Yes, I like intimidation. Is that at the highest order and in sanction? The media, the media, you know, is is? Kareem, Kareem Abdul jumpier even said, well, the peaceful. You like that. It's a peaceful. No, how many? Is anyone old enough to remember Kareem Abdul Jabbar? I don't know. There's a peaceful that these people have the right to protest? No, actually, they don't. That is actually illegal. But that's what I mean. This This was intimidation job. Yeah.

Oh, yeah. So what did we start five words, six words, six. Let's go ahead and get mistakes. Let him answer the question. Why? Why is this is strange, isn't it? There's there's something distinctive about the treatment of Justice Thomas, by liberals and there always has been. When he first got on the court, they said that he was just a copycat of Antonin Scalia and mild boss, and he just did what he said wasn't really able to think for himself. Right. But then when it turned out that wasn't true.

They said, Well, he never talks it oral argument, right? He, he's not engaged in the job. There's a kind of oh, I don't know, laziness. Oh, and now there's a lot of discussion about his marriage. There's a lot of emotional fixation on the fact of his wife's work. I can't help but notice that his wife is

white. And I don't think that people are consciously doing this but that is an uncomfortable set of stuff to say about the only black justice on the court and the fact is the reason is is that a black conservative is very hard to digest for certain people in the Democratic Party it just don't think it makes sense and he knows that and that's why he rotated by them to yeah yeah that's the mindset for sure.

Yeah, so like you hit it right on the head before even here in that clip the laziness everything was a discredit his hard work of getting it to that like obviously, he's competent if nothing else, because that was the whole argument about you know, this is not about when they were trying to get the

black female justice in there. It's about her accomplishments that she's competent you know, it's not about it being tokenism How do you think was to communicate our man I think he shines or just like I just can't even I mean he they're their colleagues for lighting and started they need to start a podcast I'll produce it I'll produce that will be the greatest No, just on a topic that will that will be a fascinating listen, because

they're diametrically opposed. But at the same time, they have how they're common so much in common the interracial marriages are celebrated mean one is celebrated and one is demonized Yeah, you know is see what he was the first black you know, same period, and it would call it a token and now she is saying she was appeared to be a token. I call it a cell Oh, yeah, totally just here to be the way

they act publicly. Didn't like as a as a intimidation. I wonder not another way of determining like Joe Biden, you better do it. Well, Joe Biden, if you don't do it, we don't give you your meds. Did you hear this that? That apparently Dr. Jill gives him some pills before he has to be up and ready to do his speech and in between, he's just sad and doesn't move and it's just lethargic.

And you know, what the saddest part about that is? If they're actually had their access to medicine, that could help people with his condition or a last condition. Interesting. You say that because I was thinking the very same thing. I'm like, what pill does this imagine how it could change? I have friends, it could change their lives for their you know, their parents, you know, at least you can get them coherent

for I guess 12 minutes is what we've deducted. You throw in a pill he's really good for 12 minutes then you have to get them off the stage by 20. But you could probably talk to someone and say okay, here's what's going on. I got a short window here. Listen carefully. And at this point, this is elder abuse. I mean, it means being

elder abuse. So that's I find that very troubling. So as I mentioned before, I kind of read the tea leaves because the way they freaked out when RGB died, and this is one of the most viral meltdowns I can think of, you know, in a while, and this is the woman freaking out over RB G's death. You guys. I just got a notification that Ruth Bader Ginsburg. Man, she's getting blamed. She's getting blamed for everything. Now they've turned RBG and it might be for good reason. Oh, okay.

Yeah, yeah. For the life of me RBG is you're saying? Very smart was a very smart woman. She had to know every day was given. Why didn't she step down? Hubris or was this something different? Yeah, that's that. Okay. So hubris. Alright, so this is a puzzle. It's like Wordle. Right? Because that's the only two choices right? Right. Was it just I'm gonna die on the court. And I'm not leaving. Right. Right. You know, that's what I mean by hubris that I'm gonna

hold on in this position. They're gonna have to roll me out of here. Well, it's all was it certainly appears that way. You know, she had many bouts of cancer and other types of medical and physical issues, which, if you were just doing the math would seem like hey, you know, maybe I should do something here. But once Trump got in, it was too late for her. But she could easily step down just Like a most recent one step down, or she could have, but she would have had to do that during Obama.

And why didn't she because she wasn't a spring chicken under him. I mean, in 2016, she was having health issues. So I'm just saying that the hubris part for a smart woman that she was, doesn't make any sense. If you're looking at the political risks that you run, maybe she was a political just completely misinformed over a lot of things. Well, it might be more to go ahead and get right there. Let's get their reaction for Chris Hayes and Rachel Maddow When Ruth passed. Oh, yes, this is

this is classic. Chris, I've been watching you all our talking to other people about what they think about this, and about what they think is going to happen next. As you are handing off to me I am absolutely compelled. It is beyond my means to not ask you what you think. And what do you think will happen next? I don't I think it is what Vinita was saying is correct. I don't think he obvious I don't think McConnell obviously can hold the caucus together for a vote in the next 45 days. I do

not think that's a fait accompli. I think Murkowski was sending a very clear signal. And I think Collins does not want to do that. I think it would spell the probably the end of her political career, which is already there with Cory Gardner, Martha mcsalley. I think there's a little bit of different calculations, but I think they think they're dead anyway, and McConnell will take their votes. So there's two chapters to think about. Does it happen in the next 45 days? And does it happen

the lame duck? I don't know that they can get it done in the next 45 days. A confirmation the lame duck after Donald Trump loses would be one of the most sort of ghastly assaults on sort of legitimacy and democracy I can imagine, but also completely within McConnell's ability. So that's that's where I am right now. But I don't think I think the future is unwritten and anyone who tells you they know what's going to happen is wrong. We're in utterly uncharted territory.

Now she died just before the election. Correct. 45 days, bro. He said it three or four times row? You telling me she was whacked? It could be that or it could be she retired herself. Hmm, too late. I know this is a while when I know what like she didn't know how 2020 was gonna go. And like, I want to get out the way. And I know it sounds crazy. I know. Everybody likes to get the cutest Space Jam easy, because this is a hell of a reach. But

it doesn't make sense to me. One of two ways. I mean, hugging one that could be one way or? Okay, let me do this. Let me explain. Let me let you hear in her own words how she felt about Roe versus Wade, when President Clinton became president. You were obviously somebody being considered. And then President Clinton talk to somebody who was pushing for your appointment, Daniel Patrick Moynihan and President Clinton said well women don't want her

how could that have been the case? When you were the leading lawyer in gender discrimination? Why would women have not want you or some women not want to be on the Supreme Court? And most women overwhelmingly supportive overwhelmed overwhelmingly supported by nomination that I had written that comment on Roe v Wade and it was not 100% Floating decision ah, you know, crap man. We forget so much as human beings I know this I know this and it's been completely wiped from the

record. Okay. All right. I'm all ears refresh our memories and 45 days as before one of the most contested election she pops the dead and the thing is they could have kept her alive for 45 days just like we've been in the UK she's been dead for a couple of months and just waiting to do Joe Biden feel bad or were joking about it. But the I think these things are real this is a very real possibility that Oh, wow, okay, this you blind blow my mind. It's too early.

On Plug, man, because you hear what you heard what she said about Roe ship weighing the women around what she was trying to get confirmed. Now notice notice. Compare that to now with Caetani brown Jackson, how you know everybody I was on code. She was ostracized by some women bias. She was an all in a master crushing. You happen to have the Trump when Trump heard the news? No, I don't, whatever if you can beat up. Here's what here's me not to a minute have it. Cuz I remember

that I remember seeing him looking extremely shocked. He was on the tarmac. He was about to get on the airplane. And someone told him and he was in it. It was a very genuine response that he had, and everybody could see it. I think even leftist media, were saying I was pretty realistic. It could have also been well, it could have been that he was completely blown away, particularly by the messaging 45 days that he realized, right away. Oh, crap. She did me a favor.

Or oh, crap, I just lost a whole bunch of leverage. You think? I mean, I thought it actually no. It wouldn't think it wouldn't the theory that he lost power, by them getting the third judge before he got reelected, but I think anyone would know that that was just not possible. Was that to get in 45 days to get it to get a new Supreme Court justice in?

I mean, they made it happen. You're right about it. There's no way they could pull it together, especially the Republican Party and Mitch McConnell, you know how everything was going, but they made it, they came together and put all their grievances behind it. And like we had to take him out. We can't wait to the other side of the election. We got 45 days, named in a put it together. It's crazy. But let's go ahead and get back to RBG in her second part of that clip.

Target because the Texas law was the most extreme in the nation. Abortion could be had only if necessary to save the woman's life. Doesn't matter that a hell it would be rude. She was the victim of rape boy and says I thought well, we were it was an easy case in the Supreme Court could have held that most extreme law unconstitutional and put down its pen. Instead, the Court wrote an opinion that made every abortion restriction in the country illegal in one fell swoop. And that was not the way

the court ordinarily outbreaks ignored weights. It waits to the next case and the next case, anyway, it was that some women felt that I should have been 100% in favor of Roe v. Wade. And because I wasn't Oh, no, she was actually interpreting the issue with the law as correctly. Right. You bring up a law, a specific law, and they will strike it down into you bring up another eye and we strike it now not we write the law to say, yeah, oh, you're guarantee this

right. You're saying by, you know, by our authority. And I think he had a real right, they actually legal issue with that, you know, because what the way it works is you would now just in essence, and I can understand why people say it this way, by not allowing any other case law to come before the Supreme Court, you elevated that, that issue to almost human almost constitutional right level, which is how people of course, over the course of 50 years interpreted that which was the

point like an amendment. Exactly like an amendment. Yes. Constitution. Yes. Like an amendment, which is out of the political power of the court. See, it's like I said, when these people say the Clarence Thomas, RGB all of that means they take law seriously, I have not noticed, like, the most obvious statement of the year, but it's the code and that is just like referees. They it's the code we're gonna

call it we don't we're gonna be unbiased. We're gonna call it how the rule but let's just call it an even though you know, it may suck. They had to call it that way. And you for her to stand up in the face of women in that time. When she was saying what she would do got nominated when she was trying to get a are on the court firmed. Yep. See, she could have easily said, You

know what? kowtow? But she stood on her principles, and it's not about the topic, it still is about how the court is supposed to work. Excellent point. I'm so glad you brought this up again. A Mike, you said it's very meta, because this is a bigger discussion of how this country is going to move forward. Is it gonna be a federal, you know, like, top down kind of thing? Or is it states are gonna have their own identities and you move to the state? Yes, issue.

So this is a big thank you this is this is exactly what's going on. And I think most people, even though you know, they don't the Electoral College has to go, that's no good, which is fundamental, which is a safety net. So we don't get crazy people in the White House, which of course, it kind of failed. Also, I think a lot of concerts have this very little understanding. And this hasn't been many opportunities for interpretation of the Electoral College in the process and what

Trump tried to do by refuting it. He tried to deploy the safety net, the parachute, and it didn't unfold it fair. And that that will be looked at, I'm sure in decades to come. But when you hear concerns constantly, and I'm always pushing against it, our democracy, our democracy, we don't have a democracy. We're not like the European Union. We're not, you know, we're not to Germany. We're not Sweden, we

don't have a monarchy. We're a constitutional republic, I'll let you get away with democratically chosen or a democratically represented. Republic. You got to have Republican there and the the constant. Oh, January 6, our democracy, our democracy hangs, and we're about to lose our democracy. I don't even know what that means. When you lose

it. Tell me what that means. It's a branding. Well, it's branding is brainwash hobbyists, branding and brainwashing, and it's mainly the Socialist Party groups, non governmental organizations that print the signs for the kids to carry. Let's just keep it 100. Okay, 90% of the media is Democrats leftist, but a Democrat and well what I mean is they identify as politically as you have a crash, obviously is bad Brandon and call ourself a republic. Oh, man was made history

may not understand. Um, but it doesn't matter. It's factually incorrect. Right when we live, like you say, is my controls, right? That's the whole point of their existence is to my control people. And as long as you start them off young enough and get them on some antidepressants and SSRIs I think you're just pumping Democrats out of the schooling system. Right. So there's education, media, you know, those information pharma, right, you got to soften them up. Ready to receive soften?

I've been doing a lot of research on this in the past couple of weeks. Oh, yeah. So let's get back to the liberal outrage. I'm thinking about that relationship with him and his wife and you think about the difference of how justices are treated as they get old. He is the oldest member of the quarter will be next year. And he was sick. And there were basically hopes and prayers on Twitter for his demise and the leaks about

his wife and his wife's political work. On the flip side, when Ruth Bader Ginsburg was ill, the left's outpouring support of support was overwhelming and you really didn't hear anybody on the right. Speak in that way. Is there about his stop? Yeah, I got a call to book credit right there. Yeah. Really. It was so many dead memes going around about RGB come like, see, this is this is highly discrediting themselves. It was a she was like, Is she dead? Watch that that was part of the game.

It was it was hilarious. Right, so don't don't play that all we were saw we were angels. It goes both ways. It goes both ways. So I even want it back a little bit. We didn't hear him be disingenuous. Again. Ruth Bader Ginsburg was ill. The left's outpouring support of support was overwhelming, and he really didn't hear anybody on the right. Speak in that way. Is there something unique about his position that engenders that hatred or is that hatred exist?

And it just needs a spotlight and that is Clarence Thomas. And well, I think there is a lot of good faith disagreement with I mean, his views on constitutional law are I mean, he does not titrate these he is he is maximum strength. And so if you don't see the world the way that he does in terms of those, I understand that vehement disagreement, but what what I will tell you is that it is up, Justice Alito, Justice Gorsuch, Justice Cavanaugh justice barrier, their views are

all pretty close to his. And it's Justice Thomas over and over that earns this and I'll tell you the truth, though, in fairness, he welcomes it. He knows he his sort of philosophy in life is beware of white liberals who are here to help. Beware of white liberals who what are here to help? Well, we know where that comes from. Oh, we're gonna get to that rule. But before we do, let's back it up a little bit. What can it be? Between him and other justices that make them open target?

Is what is there anything any difference? We can see? It? This was the most baffling thing about the whole show. What can it be, you know, makes it clear as they use racial slurs time window? I mean, like, yeah, it was open season with me. See, once again, see, I have to get on both sides immediate I can see I guess this from the tone of it. It's like a more conservative operation. I think it's news now or something like that. So I guess they're light. Right? You know? Yeah. So they

have to be careful not to play the race car. Because Own It was interesting. You know, I'm the canary in the coal mine. So on Black Twitter gets through to me. You know, I always take note, Oh, what's this? I was posting. This was called an N word meme. About Clarence Thomas. Oh, yeah. And her tweet and again, take now Yes, I can down. She was like, Don't you don't he realized something like his rights are next. And she didn't with the HAR Er, oh, yeah. And

it was under her. That was so called Black. Cheer her own. I can't say that was a majority. But there were those people that was like, Yeah, that was Black Twitter though, right? Because that that it was so potent, as you said that it came through to my timeline. I think the reaction made it's like, triggered your notification work. Doesn't matter. Doesn't matter. Came but a lot of people would like you will Whoa, you're saying like

you, you went too far, you know, or that kind of thing. But there was a minority of people that were that were black that were like, you know, saying given her the Okay. Yeah. And you know, Samuel Jackson has something to say about Clarence Thomas. It was yeah, it's very, like I said, Clarence Thomas, he's that guy to everybody. Ben Carson. He's the same way. What's the guy in California Alera elders. These are guys that are saying that you could take a potshot at, you know, just for instant

cloud. Right, you know, so, um, yeah, so he, he wants to trust me, Clarence Thomas wants all the smoke, he understand the power that He wills and I just find it weird that they turned a blind eye to you know, the 2020 election. They thought they had bigger fish to fry. I liked that political power on that. And I have a last episode. That will never probably come out. It was

called and like Clarence Thomas was the cracking Wow. Yeah, they are least the craggy cause like if it's gonna happen have you had to get hit? Okay. Oh, mine the fact that he didn't it was lying. That is so smart. Cracking Thomas. I like it. Excellent. Oh, wow. He was the Kraken. Oh, yeah. He still is obviously he still is and they understand that and he got that power as soon as that fifth Justice Force. I mean, what fifth? Cuz I

just it was on Confirm. He knew he was like, Yes. Got I got everything I need to push everything back to state Right. Right. Yes. So where? Where can he get that thinking on white liberals though? I know that I know. This one. I know this one teach. I know this one. I know this one. Do I just play it? Because I know this one. Yes, yes, please. It was only 40 episodes ago. The white liberal differs from the white conservative only in one way. The liberal is more deceitful, more hypocritical

than the conservative, both one power. But the white liberal is the one who has perfected the art of posing as the negros friend and benefactor. And by winning the friendship and support of the Negro. The white liberal is able to use the Negro as a pawn or a weapon in this political football game that is constantly raging between the white liberals and the white conservatives. The American Negro is nothing but a political

football. And the white liberals control is ball through tricks or tokenism. Yeah, Malcolm X, of course, the right in peep for people at Howard the previous shows about Clarence Thomas, he was very radical, and his younger years, even a self proclaimed Marxist. So can I show him the whole spectrum of you know, politics? Yes, your question about what Malcolm X said there? When you were still at the corporation working for them working for the

man? Would you say the same held true? Did you notice that in everyday life that the because of course, you would know, obviously, who was white, you probably knew who was white and liberal versus white and conservative. Did you notice, literally those traits that Malcolm X spoke about? Or should we only see that more to political level? Is you understand what I'm saying is like, do you understand what you're saying? And it's Republicans, conservatives, they're straightforward what

they want. I mean, they're very, very clear, you know, on what they want. It's the fact that for the most part, liberals come with tricks and get your booty to the pole. Right. But that's all political thing. Yes, I agree that and I complete and Malcolm X is 100%. Right? I'm just asking in normal, everyday life of a black man in America in a probably reasonably rich, mixed corporate workforce that you were in. Did you feel that there? Were also if it was a white conservative that like you

just said, it would be clear up front? Or she? And if it was white liberal, they might lose tricks in the workplace? Or was it not even necessarily white? Was it maybe Asian? Brown? I mean, did you see that type of behavior? More based on liberal of non-black? You can tell? I think I know, the question that you're asking. And you can tell well, how you people deal with you, their political leanings before you knew for sure what their political leanings were? Oh, just by their approach, right.

Can you give me an example? Okay, like Pete once I would say you just straight like Heidi is, or there will be also there'll be very quiet about your saying politics, but But Democrats felt like they had the moral high ground or liberal people. So they were very voracious about their opinion. And then also, it was like a persuasion thing

like, Oh, this is what's good for you. Because I know what you think I know what's good for me. I mean, like, you know, I don't need you to try to persuade me what's good for me. So kind of like, you're you may, you may need some help understanding this, right. I know you haven't thought about this before. But you know, oh, let me help you. Let me assist you. So I can feel good about this. Once again, not hoping to use the term correctly. But I

think this is mad at look at her tweet. What did she say? Doesn't this N word? No. They're coming from it. He's a Supreme Court justice. What do you mean? Like that? That kind of thing. Yeah, I know. I don't think Clarence Thomas could ever qualify as an N word within it with the with the with the ER. No, but what I'm saying is like she was enlightening him. Yeah, he's decision is that part is like, well, I guess I'm connecting to the dumb and word. You know,

it's like, Hey, you dumb and word. Right? And that's kind of what that was? No, well, yeah. But that's the point I'm trying to make is that their approach to liberal approach is to persuade you with some kind of, you know, Mind Control, let's just call it what it is, is, it's mind control. Now, both sides use it. But let me give an example.

Just doing this very show. I've received probably more tweets than emails, you know, accusing me saying, Well, I hope you feel good with what you're doing is this, you know, to to ease your conscience and I think that's coming from very conservative people on the right, I think, right, not from leftist. Left. They don't listen. On the left. They like the they can't even imagine it. They can't listen. can't listen to the show. But in general, generalizing, of course. Really. Yeah. Oh, yeah.

I would say so. Now, just saying that I miss. You would think that open mindedness I will be you know, let me listen. I think that will be They're sort of open mindedness but that is the people who listen to us banter are very centrist in general, I'd say extremely centrist and compensates based reason. And hungry for knowledge. How they feel. In fact, most people who listen, I think they feel, especially if you if you're gonna stick with us for one episode, you'll feel cheated.

You'll feel cheated out of what you thought you knew what you were taught what you learned. Yeah, I think I think you feel just like holy crap. How come? How come? I don't know any of this? That's what I think that's what most people say. That's how I feel for sure. And to get back to your question the what the difference is, and it played out on a global scale. You had American Nazis, and you had

German Nazis. Yeah, like the German Nazi was like, oh, yeah, we walking down down the street, you know, saying we're all armed blazing, you know, military gear on American Nazi showed and this is a little foreshadowing what some awesome ways showed up in white coats. And, you know, humanitarian aid, you know, that kind of thing. Let me help you. It's like, both of y'all want the same thing. But it's their approach. You know, that's,

that's this perspective. I think Malcolm X was speaking from God. At least I know why the German Nazis are here. And I can defend against that, but this section is just something else to worry about. On top of what's sad about this comparison is that basically all white people are Nazis. They're just the ones that are open about it. The ones that are not open about it. All white supremacists are okay. Yeah, we got we definitely got it. We definitely gonna get to that later in the show as well.

But let's go ahead and get through it. When we stop it. Well, if they can't persuade you, then they'll just threaten you. Overnight, FBI investigators searched the California home of the man The FBI says traveled from there to Washington DC to attack a Supreme Court justice. At about one o'clock Wednesday morning. Police say a man dressed in black with a suitcase in a backpack got out of a taxi in front of the home of justice Brett Kavanaugh who lives in suburban Maryland. They say

after spotting to federal marshals outside the house. He walked a block away and called 911 and is he's having suicidal and homicidal thoughts. Police say he told him he came to kill the justice and was armed while he was still on the phone with police officers arrived and arrested him. Court documents identify him as Nicholas John Roski age 26 of Simi Valley, California. They say he was carrying a handgun ammunition, a knife pepper spray

and burglary tools. Investigators say he told them he was upset that the Supreme Court might overturn Roe v Wade and loosen gun laws and that he planned to kill the justice and then himself. That's a good report hadn't heard. I knew what happened. But I didn't have that clip. A lot of people didn't know what happened. Because if you're one of the highest political figures Well, quote unquote political figures in the country assassination attempt

Oh, there was no reporting on it. There was no there was very little reporting. The fat silence is deafening. Silence is violence Mo. Obviously, or, but it's this kind of thing right here. So when I heard this, I'm like, Okay, the first question you have to ask me situations is AZ MK Ultra or not? I mean, because, right, you just show up from California in a taxi. We will do it would be nice to have a little more information that I didn't know about the taxi party either.

Yeah, he flew from cat like we did you bring the gun with you? Did you get it when you got here is some it's just so convenient that you can find a gun and you're saying in this area, I think it said was in DC or Maryland, excuse me. You know, it was still tough gun laws. Very tough, you know? Right. So you just come by, I mean, certainly out of state and that I don't think you can just fly in and buy Can you I don't think in DC you can do dc, Colorado.

I think Virginia is probably the most gun gun friendliest. So maybe he got in Virginia. That's possible, possible, but I'm just saying we need to add these questions answered. And the fact that he Well, let's get more into this story.

Attorney General Merrick Garland, who's a former federal judge himself said he earlier took steps to increase security for the justices, threats of violence and actual violence against the justices of course strike at the heart of our democracy, everything we can to prevent them and to hold people who do them accountable. Was that Robert Simpson? Have no who said that? That was him. No man Shut up with a democracy to prevent them and to hold people who do them accountable.

Garland acted after protesters showed up at the homes of Kavanagh and two other justices following the leak of a draft of the court's abortion ruling. Congress is now considering a bill to provide more money for securing the justices and their

families. But last month's murder of a retired Wisconsin judge, and the shooting attack at the home of a federal judge in New Jersey nearly two years ago that killed her son have prompted new calls for more security for judges, including a measure now before Congress that would block personal information about judges and their families from the internet. Investigators

say that continues to be a concern. They say that Roski told him that he got the idea of coming to kill justice Cavanaugh after finding the Justice's home address on the internet Rawski has been charged with attempted murder of federal judge no comment from his lawyer Savannah All right, he Williams Thank you very much. And no follow up from the media Thank you very much. Not at all we're talking this this these cops should be celebrated right they saved the life of a justice no fanfare no

nothing no reporting that lets me know that. Something something no smell right in my book. You're right. I didn't dive into it. I'm kind of kicking myself over. Energy choice of which justice it was. Now we hate Clarence Thomas. But we can't be threatened to kill him now know that? That could that could backfire. Although you could probably do it now. Do you mind if backfire, then? No, you don't think so? No. This is recent. This was after the leak. You know, this

emotion? I know. But yeah, yeah, that's that's about no oh, now let's see. That will go that will be jumping in they understood that. And now we can't go out the clock to Clarence Thomas. You know, we can kill his reputation. But we can't threaten him with violence. For one at one of two reasons. One, because that's just bad vid. Optics. You know, a white man trying to kill a black. That's what I'm saying. I think we're at the point right now

with this. This discussion. We've so lost sight of Clarence Thomas being black. I don't think people see that anymore. They see him as evil as the problem in the way. I think they could have white white man threatening black men in this case, because that's how crazy it has gotten. I think that's the hardest sale. who it was. Yeah, of course, it's ill advised. And it was just saying the other man out. I mean, we can't, Amy now she's a

woman. Yeah, Clarence. He's black. Who else we got, you know, saying? The obvious first target. Yeah, of course. Right. He's the youngest two. So I mean, you're gonna save yourself a lot of years. And we're talking about this in jest and gallows humor, but it's conversations that have been like this, to say who even if it's less than him a message like when he people used to be running in the White House with Obama. Before big decisions. It's like less this is less than a Mullah, you know,

a little message. Oh, yeah. It's a real message then. Because you gotta listen to this guy's quote unquote programming in the 911 call hearing for the first time the 911 recording for the man charged with threatening to kill Supreme Court Justice Brett Kavanaugh. He called police on himself telling 911 he had a gun and he intended to harm justice Cavanaugh wsa nine investigative reporter Nathan Baca has just released or just listened to that 911 recording. What do we learn?

Well, according to the charging documents, Nicholas ROSC of California call nine one on Wednesday morning telling an operator he was right around the corner from Justice Cavanaugh is Montgomery County home he confessed he had a firearm pepper spray and a knife from a government county police said they found those items and Ross legit luggage. The 911 call Ross claims he just came from the airport. He doesn't say whether he passed those weapons through airport security. For total of

15 minutes. The 911 Operator kept Ross calm and talkative until police could confront him. Here is Ross in his own words after saying he wanted to hurt Cavanaugh and himself. I need I mean psychiatric help, because I didn't think I could get away with it. And also I've been for a long time I've been hospitalized multiple times.

At no time and is 911 called a Ross give any political statement or give any motive for wanting to harm justice Cavanaugh now detective say Ross later admitted to being upset about his perception of justice Cavanaugh suppositions on abortion rights and gun control. There's a lot more on these tapes. Working to bring you more tonight on the news at 11. Oh man, this is so good. I have to I have to get a copy of the whole 911 Call but listen to as I've been delving into things.

You know, obviously, you've probably heard of Devil's breath, you know, this is white powder, you can kind of drop in front of, oh, yeah, from Brasilia. It's got this salsa s. I know exactly song. Yeah, the devil's breath. But what I've learned in open dialogue with the no agenda, no agenda nation about SSRIs. First of all, a lot of people are on him, you know, so the psychotropic drugs and antidepressants, but also there's something called

Adderall induced psychosis. And several people have emailed me about girlfriends, children, etc. Who have, you know, we'll be taking Adderall, all of a sudden, they just go nuts. And, you know, and all kinds of things, you know, some become sex addicts, you know, others start stealing. And they don't know what's going on until they're taken off Adderall. I mean, so there's so many ways into the human psyche, the human

brain. This guy sounds like, he didn't even need a handler, he just needed to watch MSNBC and he could come to that conclusion of obvious a nudge would help right. But to get on your to get on an airplane, fly from California to DC right? Now, none of that makes sense. You have to be politically driven. But when you call 911, you you don't mention politics at all. No, because all your motive, no, he really the MK Ultra

programming was wearing off. The guy had a moment of like, you know, it's like the people know people who, you know, they, they they wake up during the intubation on a ventilator and they pull all the shit out themselves and they and they get up and they walk out of the hospital and they're pretty much fine. There's multiple stories of that during COVID It's kind of like that, you know, you coming a little bit out of the fog like what am I going to do? I mean, totally, it wore off

something happened. Maybe you got anti triggered by something. You got the call is I know is test run. Self destruct. Agents smart. You can stop. Yeah, exactly. Self destruct. Or maybe that was always the intent. Gosh, I'd love to know, did he get a phone call? For 911 Call out there is out there. And he sounds very confused. He called the cops. They he calls the cops hangs up and call him back. I'll come call you right back. And it's a

very weird, weird situation. And the fact that it took 15 minutes and Kevin's house had a detail on it. So you got this guy standing at the corner on the phone for 15 minutes and other point. None of this makes sense. But one thing I want to let people know is killing judges is real. Like that's, you would think it would be more talked about all around the world. It happens all the time.

Right and it's one case want to bring up that you probably I'm sure you've covered it, but I mean, we all forget about the things but she was the first female Muslim. us judge found dead in New York. The first female Muslim judge in the United States was found dead in the Hudson River on Wednesday. According to Reuters police said Sheila Abdus Salam was found floating off Manhattan's west side at about 1:45pm She was 65 years old. Police pulled her clothed body from the water and she was

pronounced dead at the scene. An autopsy will determine the cause of death. Police said just alarmed became the first African American woman named the Court of Appeals when New York Governor Andrew Cuomo appointed her to the New York court in 2013. She was also the first female Muslim to serve as a judge in the US. According to the Princeton Encyclopedia of

American political history. The New York Post reported that I'm just Islam had been reported missing from her Harland home earlier on Wednesday, citing unnamed sources. Now as they say she's African American. Was she African American? She ate dos or was she? I don't think so. I'm not sure her origin but I don't think she's a badass. But if you listen, she had a lot of checks in her, you know, saying her on her bio. Yeah, you got first

female Muslim, black. You know, nobody talks about her. Yeah, there's, this will be something that won't be you know what the problem is? It's part of the same problem. The respect of the rule of law is being subverted. You know, obviously with with threatening of Supreme Court justices, but when you when people no longer respect, Revere, etc, judges,

they that's literally not respecting the law. And that's a very dangerous situation, especially when it's not even really discussed much or reported or it isn't much of an outrage no matter where the judges from if, if, if you can't, and that's part of it's by the same making because we look at attorney generals placed by Soros. I mean, if anything, what, what the Open Society Institute is done with district attorneys throughout the United States. It's not about me, it's

really about people losing respect for the law. I think that that seems to be like the strategy was the law is allowed respect for I mean, they're allowed to lose respect for the law. But see, the thing is, they can turn that on and off anytime they want to. And I'm a firm believer that a lot of this is controlled demolition, for lack of better word, and, um, you know, so you have to tear the old system down to build up this new the great data driven justice system.

Yeah, it's got and when it's all said and done, you're gonna see what you're gonna see. Harsha crown to crime bill 2.0 Come Yeah, I think mass incarceration is not going to be needed is going to be like home incarceration, home and cars, incarceration, check in, you got a smartphone, you know, you can only be in these certain sectors at this point in time, and they

can successfully do this. And it will just be you know, and all of this is setting up perfectly, you know, that they understand when they let 2020 happen, and that proverbial glass shattered. They know how to clean up, trust me, because you saw in Manhattan when it started to spill over into Manhattan, that quickly, it ended real fast, real fast, it was like, Whoa, now, you're getting out of control. But that's that's the way the system

works. But my point is, this is great campaign material, you know, who killed her? You know, you don't hear anybody say her name. You know, and why why is that? Um, so we don't know anything about it. We have no perp we have no do we even have the actual cause of death what she did before she was thrown in? Well, it was 17. My answer your question? Okay. trailblazing New York State Appeals Court judge, the Honorable Sheila do Salam was found dead in the Hudson River

last week. The 65 year old was the first African American woman to sit on the highest New York State court. Now on April 12, her body was pulled out of the Hudson River near West 132nd Street by the NYPD harbor unit. Now the area is buzzing because of the high profile nature of this death. Not since New York Supreme Court Justice Joseph craters disappearance in the 30s Have we seen such a mystery surrounding a judge his death in the state of New York. He went missing for almost a decade and

was declared dead in 1939. But they never found his body. Now I'm in Newark right now in front of her husband's home. His name is Gregory AJ Jacobs. He's a priest at the Episcopal Diocese of Newark. Nobody answered the door when I knocked up Now initially, law enforcement were treating her death as a suicide. But now the death is being deemed suspicious. Though the NYPD has said and I quote, there's no apparent trauma to

her body. They don't believe that she was in in the water for a very long time. Wow, you think I mean, this is? Well, it's um, John and I were talking about this. It's on the level of easy news. You can score big clicks and ratings with, like, Hunter Biden just show one picture of the crack pipe incident ratings now. Now we can't do that. So there's reasons but I'll speak it politically. Say her name. I mean, this is this is Yeah. Was she killed because she was a Muslim, but

she killed because she was black. It was a you know, does she have a bad opinion on someone? And was right with so many politically, it can be used in so many different ways as a campaign mechanism for you know, violence against women, politicians don't care, MO. They take orders.

Now they care about our elections. And everything I talked about when asked about policies, not about governance, it's about getting people into those polls and to pull that love or keeping them out of it. But we're saying and this isn't great material, but it's not being used because of some order. Yes, that's my point is the fact Well, let's go ahead and get to the next clip. Now in a statement of do salaams husband vehemently denies the

suicide reports. He's quoted as saying that they have no basis in reality and also it goes on to say, those of us that have loved Sheila and know her well do not believe in any of these unfounded conclusions. didn't have any basis in reality, and we believe such speculations to be unwarranted and irresponsible. I'm sure he wasn't happy with the initial response from Mayor de Blasio, where he wrote basically that he

was calling into suicide. In a quote, he's had obviously, we're still waiting for the full investigation, but to the extent of the challenges and stressors in their life that contributed to this, it's a reminder that even the most accomplished people still deal with extraordinary challenges inward. That's what he wrote. Last week, we spoke to retired NYPD Detective Sergeant Joe Jack alone, detectives always treat deaths as if they're suspicious until

proven otherwise. That's the correct way to handle any death investigation. It doesn't matter if the person is 100. Or they're 40. Whether they're a judge, or they're, you know, whatever. What changed the narrative here was the fact that the medical examiner came out with a matter of death of undetermined. Now the NYPD has released this flyer on Twitter, urging people with information to contact the 26th precinct if they know anything

about abuse. salaams death, what's very interesting to me is the New York Post citing sources, so you don't know if it's 100% Correct. But it's not official stated that there was water in her lungs. And that only happens when someone goes into the water alive. not going to speculate on what happened here. But it's really important that they solve this because the judicial system is the one great thing we've gotten this country. Wow, what was that from those reports? You remember?

That was? I don't remember. It was like a YouTube type news channel. Okay. It was a professional operation. Fascinating. I just, I'm glad there's two of us. Why is it not you? I don't know, man. I don't know. Everything is a political football. Yeah, it may I don't use them. It doesn't make sense them. It's the reason why just like how they can't do us. Uvalde. Because if it you know, if it was a white guy that did that, yeah, they fit the

profile. Oh, they could use it. But we can't use the brown kid. Because the trust me the cops able to watch you and the way the cops reacted that will be tearing the story up. But it's like, we can't really you know, dive into it. And the same thing with the Orlando shooting. And the same thing with the Vegas shooting. It's like, wow, why don't you ever talk about those? Well, because there's something going on you shut up. Hello. Hello. When you do that, that makes me crazy. And I have to go

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Alright, so we talked about the domestic and the political implications of the overturning of Roe versus Wade, but this also has global implications as well. So what I want to do now, this is a report I think from CBS if honest, I want to say and this is the world reacts to the US overturning Roe vs. Wade. The court's ruling is reverberating far beyond the

country's borders. CBS says Ian Lee is in our London bureau with the international reaction and Adriana the court's ruling made the front pages despite the UK is own current political turmoil underscoring the significance of the decision. When the Supreme Court struck down Roe versus Wade, the whole world was watching and reacted. In Paris, several dozen protesters took to the streets in solidarity. French President Emmanuel Macron tweeted abortion is a

fundamental right for all women, it must be protected. Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau also took to social media saying the news coming out of the United States is horrific. No government politician or man should tell a woman what she can and cannot do with her body. British Prime Minister Boris Johnson also condemned the decision. Clearly it has massive impacts on people's thinking around the world. It's a very important decision. I gotta tell you, I think it's a big step backwards.

The overturning of Roe comes as many countries have eased restrictions on abortions in recent years, including overwhelmingly Catholic Ireland, Mexico and Colombia. The Vatican praised yesterday's decision saying by choosing life, our responsibility for the future of humanity is that state according to the Center for Reproductive Rights, the United States now joins just two other countries who have restricted abortion in

the 21st century. Compare that to roughly 50 countries over the past decades who've made getting an abortion easier for women. All right, my first response because of course, I follow this because I read foreign publications and I've read some of them in their native language. And it was baffling. Now, already, the European news media is so so thin in their journalism, that a lot of it is copy paste from the United

States, or from CNN or whatever, it's just easy for you. It's easy because then it's written six, six to 10 hours before you wake up in Europe. You wake up in the morning, scan the stories translated to a different language, you've got everything you need. So it's a very easy job in that regard. What's hilarious about these protests is that every single one of those countries does have restrictions. Some of them you know, six weeks, there's more restrictions anything in these

European countries. So it was something completely different. Obviously, you heard Catholic Ireland and and above all, All the pope, the pope made a big deal about this, the series, if you can want it, I know you probably supposed to know. You got it. If you grew, what did the pope actually say? I've listened to that thing like 10 times, and I can't make any sense of it. The running of Roe comes as many countries have eased restrictions on abortions in recent years, including

overwhelmingly Catholic Ireland, Mexico and Colombia. But the Vatican praised yesterday's decision saying by choosing life, all responsibility for the future of humanity is that state according to the Center for Reproductive Rights, the United States Yeah, no by choosing life. No, it was complete doublespeak. And that's basically what he said. He said, No, no, this abortion is good. Right. I mean, when he prefaced that statement with, you know, like, they show support. This is

1984 doublespeak. And you're so right. This isn't again, since in recent years, including overwhelmingly Catholic Ireland, Mexico and Colombia. It was before then I'm sorry to tell you, I think it's a big step backwards. It comes down to that a really overturning of for Ireland, Mexico and Colombia.

But the Vatican praise yesterday's decision saying, Okay, so the Vatican praised yesterday's decision by life, our responsibility for the future of humanity is that state by choosing life, all thing by choosing life, our responsibility for the future of humanity is that state by choosing lives in the lives of hours is our responsibility. Wow. Ah, I can't this sounds bad. I mean, just when you listen to what they're saying, by choosing life, our responsibility is at stake. I'm

just, I'm surmising wait. They said, But how's that praise? Is that that one? That's very nuts. That one. Whoever wrote that was a wizard. I mean, obviously, script. But but the way I understand understood, but then I have to go read it now. Verbatim. I think the Pope was basically saying, you know, this is, this is good, but abortion is good. I mean, I don't know. It was very odd. This is a very progressive Pope. Yeah. What is your what is your take on what the what the Pope Pope stances?

I think the way I interpreted was the same way you did is that he couldn't outright come out and support it. And that's why I'll harped on the way that statement was released, that they show praise. Is that like, period, and then he said, what he said as far as like, all but I think it could be, you know, problematic. You know, it's very crappy the way they and I'm doing showing this this so this is how they slipped stuff in your subconscious. And it's for a reason. They say America is

the only second country and all these other country needs. Let's be clear, these religious countries, we're making headway so don't doom. We're on the right path. You know, this is a problem. But, you know, the same way with Chris Hayes. He understood what was gonna happen where RGB died. But they have to come out and say, Oh, we can't let the followers or you know, doom and gloom out. We had to, you know, we had to shape it in a certain way.

You know, there's so interesting if, if we're really getting to and I'm a firm believer that the the bank, the financial community, who really run the world, that they're all in on the great reset. Pope's aren't supposed to resign, even though we did see that in our lifetime. So what I'm hearing is that there's the new era that getting everything set, the Queen of England, they're trying to do everything they can to not have

Charles become king. So whether she's actually dead or not there, she might as well be she's completely off the radar. And apparently that is supposed to stay that way. Until the pope this Pope resigns, and I think he's going to complete his his changes to the Catholic Church. Certainly. What you see with what's what's happened with these kind of like shadow

Cardinals that have been appointed in, in China. I mean, this, if anything, I'd say all that reporting about Roe v. Wade was purely to affect Christians. Of course, it's the undertone to that as well is the unintelligent is the backwards? If you notice the meme, you didn't catch it, so I'm gonna give it to you big step backwards. And then I will the title of the video for joy around no excuse me a giant step backwards. Yeah, this is regression at its finest. This is us going back to the Stone

age's. You know, believe it or not believing in science. This proves to me that science is a religion. Oh, me totally, totally. We've talked about it a lot on this on the show. But this kind of proves that science runs counter to religion, there is no commingling of the two. Yeah, and it would be I would say, it's, it's religion for the atheist. Because of course, science is not a religion, not

an actual religion. But it's it's used in human psyche appears to need something like that, something were turned to when you have when you don't understand the world. And you can turn to God and have a chat with him, or you can put blind faith into science. Right? And when we say science, we're not talking about the scientific method. No, no, whatever, the scientists say that science, correct. And it's kind of synonymous in the way with how

religion is being treated. Now from the postbag spit, you have was written, you have this is my interpretation of it, you know, kind of thing. So it's happening on both sides. So the elephant in the room is eugenics, we had to talk about it. And that's why I think that global is part of the bill back better. It's part of the great reset. It's part of the no agenda 21 agenda 2020 30.

Yes. And basically, it boils down to two sides, I've always talked about, there's really only two sides, it is more people and less people. Yeah, that's really the two sides. And science has figured out with the, you know, improvements of science and the developments and discoveries of what they met real science, that we don't need people anymore. We don't meet as

many people anymore. So Right. And this is this was the main tenant of the Georgia Guidestones that got blown up recently, this has been the tenant of Bill Gates with his vaccination strategy, whether he plans to kill people with them or not, the end result is will we won't have a population explosion. It is what The Population Bomb book was about in the 70s. Many of the people still in The Population Bomb Group who thought we were going to just be the world will be overrun with useless human

eaters. Of course, that didn't actually take place. And we've been able to kind of feed everybody more or less. If we didn't intervene, it might be might be more. And then finally, now universally accepted and discussed, which is one of the most baffling things for me, because for 15 years, I've mentioned throughout my podcast career, that Margaret Sanger was a member of the American eugenics society. I think that's what it was. And Planned Parenthood, by her own

messaging, was a eugenicist tool. And that is now even discussed openly as well. You know, of course, we plan period, it has problematic history, but But anyway, all right. And it was specifically meant to stop black babies from being born. So yeah, yes. And not exclusively, though, is that unfit? It's a no it's that's the real issue. So let's don't take my word for it. Clarence Thomas even has some belief in eugenics. All this? Not him is self but belief in this whole group of creepy

people. Yeah, lizard people. There you go. Yeah. Lizards. Yes. So Justice Clarence Thomas, writing today that abortion is an act quote, rife with the potential for eugenic manipulation. Let's bring in Fox News contributor Richard Fowler and the president of live action. Lila rose to discuss Welcome to you both.

Good to see you, Shannon. Okay, so I want to read a little bit more of this back and forth from the footnotes between Justice Thomas and Justice Ginsburg, Justice Thomas saying this, given the potential for abortion to become a tool of eugenic manipulation, the court will soon need to confront the constitutionality of laws like Indiana's in you know, Richard, I read this thing that he was on pages and pages on the history of Eugenics and how birth control and abortion were aimed

at eradicating people who were viewed as unfit. should have never been born. Oh man, before we get to the unfit part, let's just say with the black part. Because I have an example which kind of plays into this, a guy named Daniel J. Lewis, who is a podcast consultant, but he's been around podcasting since the early days that I've kind of known for a long time. And when we started

podcasting, 2.0, he jumped right in. I mean, this is a guy who, you know, he does numbers, he sells stats to corporations. He's very, very deeply entrenched knows everything works great guy. And a guy you can argue with over you know, should we use JSON or RSS, you know, you can argue with him over stuff. Great. I like him a lot. Christian, conservative Christian. And he, by really, I think, in a way a miracle he was

voted in as a member of the podcast Academy. Now, the podcast Academy, I wouldn't want my corpse a member of the podcast Academy because it you know, the note taking, please, of course, cannot. They started by It started around the Podcast Awards, which was cute in the beginning, but it makes no sense, you know, with the diversity and you know, there's no industry, it's a decentralized thing. So it's, it was a little bit of a circle

jerk. But it's okay. And then it what it evolved into is an organization that, you know, people of course, if you're a professional podcast, you feel like you've had to be a member and pay your member dues. And with that money, they create opportunities and education for minorities in podcasting. And so the Delray McKesson I think he's the Is that him? He's like the board president. Was it? The RE D re D re not blue blue sky? Yeah, I think so. podcast. Yeah. I knew you'd like this.

Let me just get you about let me see who the governors are. leadership. Leadership has got leaders me on the board. Oh, yeah. Oh, no, I'm sorry. Are you right now? My minimis justice. Good. Hold on. Donald Albright. Okay. Do you know him? No, I don't know these. These are these are mega works. Oh, here it is. Yeah. DeRay Mckesson? Yeah, DeRay Mckesson. He's on let me give you the blue vest on Yes, yes. Yes. The blue vest on in the picture. What tell me about the blue vest.

That's that was his trademark. Remember with the Black Lives Matter first? Oh, yeah. Well, yeah, the guy the blue vest. Yes. skinny black guy was D res on there. Christina more from Don't skip media. You know. So this is a complete BLM LGBTQ IA P k plus noodle boy organization. Right. And their entire marketing their drywall? Let's see, it's, this is important, actually. I don't mean to distract us too much. But no, no, no, no, no. Let me

give you the mission. The podcast, our mission, our mission is to support podcast makers and advance the cultural merit of the medium through programs including the ambience, that's our award show, we celebrate, inspire and connect creative creators from around the world while attracting new audiences to their work. And so what they do is they promote BLM

LGBTQ type programming, which is fine. What's funny about it is there's just a big survey that came out about podcast creators, and it's wildly diverse, is there's no need for the podcast Academy to help any it's wildly diverse, all kinds of religions races, everything's out there in much more diverse proportions than than anyone expected. So anyway, so Daniel J becomes he's voted in and he's not even in a month. And Roe v. Wade is spiking up and he posts a response to some someone on

Twitter, which of course is all his mistake. He posted this is about black babies being murdered. Dude, he got canceled so fast. They tore him off the board, they wouldn't even discuss his you know, his statement because of course, they forced him to resign ultimately, they had a secret vote to kick them off, so that we don't even know who voted for

or against. And he was deemed a racist because he used the oh, he said blacks not the blacks he said blacks remember we had a question about that a booster gram and you said no that's if you say the blacks yeah that that that's has a racial undertone but blacks you had no problem with he got torn apart and and completely miss misinterpreted because I understood what again, he should not have done that because you can't explain Things that people on Twitter people, what he what

he meant was, hey, Planned Parenthood has literally killed I wouldn't say murdered but I would say killed millions of black babies that was his point and even removed from all that without actually discussing what he said completely ignoring that they canceled his I mean, I I was emailing with him just to see if he was okay. I mean that can be causing global madness, yes. This is why I want to make this about love you Daniel J. This is

about the two groups, more people or less people. And when you when you go against that and more people mean that less people group. They this is this is a huge continuous there's that we have to you and a huge component of their message that we have to have less people. Now the math is are different. But the goal is they're on board with this completely. And and I have clips at the clips and you brought up The Population Bomb. Yeah, and this was really not the first because we will go way

back Pat before this. But this was a one of the waves where people bought into the world is coming to and as we hear with climate change, and people were scared into believing The Population Bomb. Overpopulation so long predicted as stolen upon us, it's getting worse week by week in the 1960s, a new kind of fear began to spread across America, the US could be busting out at the seams by the end of the century.

If we do not buy humane means limit our numbers, then numbers are going to be limited by more famines and shortages and consequent social conflicts. The idea that human population was outstripping the Earth's ability to support mankind was a powerful one. And it was one man Stanford biologists Paul Ehrlich, population growth will kill you stone cold dead, who pushed the dramatic message home,

if we continue to let population grow. And if we continue to exploit the underdeveloped countries, if we continue to pollute the seas, with a wide variety of compounds, and so on, it's very difficult for me to figure things holding together for more than another decade or so. The basic point is so simple. We have a finite planet with finite resources. And in such a system, you can't have infinite population growth. Yeah, well, which turned out to be completely untrue.

Well, this is where religion plays a huge part in it. Yeah. And you know, I don't speak much about my faith. Other than that, I am a man of faith, I made that very clear. But I don't like to speak about it too. In Depth, because that's like a capture audience, we will have a religious conversation and frame

it that way. So people know what they're getting into. It's kind of like those a here's a sandwich, that homeless guy let me talk to you about the Bible. Because like that kind of like I don't I don't like that you're saying I think religious conversations should be engaged in voluntarily your your approach to faith has worked much better than any other one on me. And reasonable I'm gonna say this is where religion comes in. And I appreciate it. Thank you. Oh, is that God or the Bible?

The or God of the Bible says Be fruitful and multiply. Yes, that's a huge message throughout the Bible. And to say the world is finite and it can't support that so actually Antichrist or anti god yeah, messaging him No, I'm just saying that no, no, no. You just my my view into my frame of mind into a whole different view. So with this in mind, burn the churches in France. Tucker Carlson hated maybe he's not so hated for his views. Maybe he's hated more because he has five children

four or five children. And of course I'll apologize for having four kids I mean, like here's here's what's interesting. Elon Musk one of his main and criticized on criticized weirdness, I'll just call it weirdness is his 10 children. You know why? Tell me, I'm gonna give you a guess what why do you think they're treated differently? Ben? Say a Tucker Carlson has five kids, even though he has 10.

Well, my view is he's on their team. But that's that's not probably not the answer you're thinking of. They're scientifically fit babies. Well, I said this. I said, I said this the other day on the show. I said, I think he's cloning himself. Well, that's what actually have a kid. Would you say like literally, well, two of the pregnancies that triplets and the twins was IVF, which is how you get triplets and twins. But maybe it wasn't. Oh, gee, we wanted a kid. We got three of them. No,

it's like, Damn perfect. We got three of me. So here's the thing. We have to listen to the terms that are used. The group is called Planned Parenthood. Plan. Yep, they have no problem with two Ivy Lee people getting together having a baby and having a quote unquote, fit. Now, that's a good plan, baby. Yes. You mean, like an Uber mensch, like blond hair, blue eyes type thing,

what they thought out, it was thoughtful. That was correct that they won't it's not planning parenthood, it's planned, it was already planned. So that's how your interpretation right now, which I live for. So we bring down that? Yeah, it's what we what we eliminate is unplanned parenthood. Because the likelihood of that being producing an unfit product or human resource, as you call them, is very high. And we have to eliminate we have to make

space for the plan babies. And that's why I think Elon Musk is not seen as because I'm sure they say oh, he's a very scientific person. He's taking every precaution you know, like, you know, to make sure those children will be fit and value adding to the world because you made a term and he said, useless eaters. This is this is this is That's That's it in a ball of wax. Is that are you a drain on this? World? Are you a a positive net positive net?

Pause? Yes. Yeah. That that's that's what everything about and that's why because that's why is very religious or anti religious, just honest, oh, notion that if you believe in this, like, say, I don't want to, like browbeat anybody and say this, but if you are a believer, you believe multiply as part of the plan. Yes, yes. And to be countered to that makes you counter religion. So I just want to lay that out. So this is a great perspective that there's no left or right there's

only more people or less people. That's, that's boiling it down. Yeah. And notice gas, you want more people, you selling cars, you want more people, you selling physical products, you want more people, that's more customers. That's corporate growth. You want to print your money and just send money from the government to people you want less people. Well, that makes sense. No, it does. It makes plenty of sense that people like how did how did they think they're just gonna print?

Yes, I will pay for one of you today instead of two or three of us. Next week. Yeah. You know, just like the yellow jackets, he was saying the same thing. That's how they look at it is like your inconvenience and our environment, and we get rid of you. This is where AI comes into place where I think we've talked about it. The Metaverse Facebook's Mata. The idea is probably to get everybody in their virtual environment with at home. We did no need to tell people that they're locked up at

home, they'll do it gladly wfh. It's the Dutch government just just made working from home a human right in the Netherlands. So you can demand to work from home. And then basically, you'll have your your AI glove on or whatever, and you'll be controlling a robot in likely somewhere in Asia. And and you'll just be doing that movement with the arm and you'll be bolting the thing on until the machine can do it itself.

Which haram I am a proponent of work from home. And actually I liked it, I did see that people think they got me all figured out. But the reason why I say that is one of the first things we talked about when we first started this show was I believe when parents should be in the household. Yes. So this opens

the opportunity, where that can be a reality. Now the problem is having a job that that is possible to do from home, which that has some intellectual in which means it can only be the educated well planned out people. Human Resources, not not the not the ones that J Locke 100 was show under their little toddler and diapers whacking the cops. Did you see that shit? I saw I saw that. House strong. That's no father in the home. That's what that is. I wouldn't say that. I would never mean we

best. That's obvious. But the other part about it is that baby was two years old. Maybe? Yeah, little maybe three. That's post Jimmy because that's the point that while Whitlock was making nest, that baby grew up indoctrinated into George Floyd Black Lives Matter. or kind of mentality? That's all he knows.

Yeah. He doesn't know prior to that. So this is why I harp on propaganda and stuff because this guy just go back not to belabor the point, but that's why I think one parent should be in the household because they opens up the opportunity where a parent can educate their children not send him to school to be indoctrinated. See this, this thought process the population by all that global warming all comes starts at K,

or pre K. Yes. The reason why I know this, my first year in kindergarten was I think 8685 was the first year on Earth Day. And I remember the Sesame Street special, I'm just telling you how deep this thing goes, Oh, the planet is going to end. You know, they were indoctrinating us early. And that was I remember, from 1969 to 1970. So I was five years old. What is that? Second grade? Maybe? No? obvious case? Okay. I remember, yes. Kindergarten. What was her name? I can't

remember her name. I liked her a lot. My kindergarten teacher and she and I remember, the coolest thing and I was drawing a picture of it would have just been released. And it was so exciting. was the 747. From Boeing. What a difference in so what is that? Not even 10 years? No, no. No more than that. The 1516 years to Earth Day, where you know, the 747 no one was talking about it polluting the sky. It was like, Holy crap. This is space age shit. Look how many people can fly in this

thing? So yeah, that ramp up went pretty fast. And just thinking about it now. Because I heard I heard the talking point being regurgitated by my children when they were still in school, you before you corrected them? Correct. I mean, that's the thing to jump in. And this is why I said that work from home where that's an option. I think, yeah, I think that's a smart thing to say that parents should have that right to stay at home because I think it makes for a better humanity

later now. Yes. But if work from home, means you're going to be wearing your virtual goggles. And you're going to be doing that all day. I mean, it just, yes, I agree with you. I worked from home working from home for a long time. I enjoyed very much like being my own boss. I like being an entrepreneur. But clearly you're working from home is different than the working from home. They're talking about work from home like that, too. But the problem I mean, we're

not the problem. But the good part about I mean kids are, yeah, do prevent and like set them up and make sure they don't burn the house down pretty much you could pop in and out but you talking about sending out Sydney keys to these schools. And this is nothing new just to get back on track with the show because this is where the kids were indoctrinated at on The

Population Bomb. Yeah. Ehrlich, who had previously focused his scientific research on butterflies laid out his hypothesis in a slim volume called The Population Bomb. It was a call to action for many, including a student Ehrlich advised Stuart Brand leaders to lead like to see people have fewer children and better ones. The whole idea that people make more people who make more people until there's too many people by then it's too late. That's a very persuasive argument.

Adrian Germaine at women's health advocate, found herself drawn to Ehrlich as well, due to his support of birth control. The message was that we were already in a crisis. And if we didn't have urgent and immediate action, the world would simply destroy itself.

Look at what the year 2000 will be. Our cities are going to be choked with people, they're going to be choked with traffic, they're going to be choked with crime, they're going to be choked with pollution and they will be impossible places in which to live. Calls sure of doom and gloom looked real. population is increasing by 23 people every 10 seconds let's clear the world population growth remains completely out of control.

Yeah, brand was an important guy in this setup. He was you heard his student you heard it right is the student is that I guess, you know, you know what's important about brand. He was the guy that that indoctrinated Silicon Valley from the from the get go. He was an MIT guy. And he I think he created the the well the whole earth was first the whole earth catalog, which was in a Kmart in Menlo Park where all these these corporations are now and it's You know, Steve Jobs all these

people all grew up around the well, the whole electronic. What was it called? Earth link on second is called Yeah, the whole earth electronic link, and I was on it. Everybody in Silicon Valley in the early days was on the well, and a lot of that was it. Basically a message board, they could get on there. I'm sorry, I should have explained the well well.com I'm gonna total inside the whole of the well, the whole earth like Thank

you. The whole earth electronic link, normally shortened to the well was launched in 1985, one of the oldest continuously operating virtual communities by 1993. It had 7000 members, a staff of 12 gross annual income of $2 million in 1997 feature in Wired magazine called Wired magazine also came from the same group of people called it the world's most influential online community in 2012, when it was last publicly offered for sale that had 20 693 members, best known for its internet forums,

also, they had e mail and other things. But it was written Craigslist came out of this. The Electronic Frontier Foundation, all of these people came from, were connected somehow to brand. It's really, the true history of Silicon Valley had really has never been divorced. I could do it. But he's always like, I live in it's totally lizard world. Completely. You could do a whole show. Just on any word you'd like to Well, I thought like y'all Oh, hoods on like bralet monkhood around a whale like

that well, virtually speaking. I think that's what it was. Yes, absolutely. Very close to that. Now, but and so all of the very, very liberal here, let me just give you some of the people who are some of the people involved. Cory Doctorow know if that means anything to you. I mean, it'll mean nothing. It won't mean anything. I mean, I'm I'm older and other people, you know, posting Oh, that's the whole point is like to the

average. Yes. I've never heard of it. I mean, like I said, it's it's linkless lizard, LinkedIn. So I mean, like, you know, Steve, invited Steve Jobs ended his very famous 2005 Stanford University commencement address by acknowledging both Stuart Brand and the whole earth catalog, quoting from the ladder issues. Finally, the ladders final issue, which I have a copy of Stay Hungry. Stay Foolish. So there's this this however, huh? Yeah. Yeah. Anyway, so there you go. So that's, that's good to know.

Well, speaking of Silicon Valley, we got to talk about Bill Gates, and we got covered throwback clips. Because he, in the first clip, he's gonna be asked a question. That's the kind of a valid question. As far as if you make it for better people, won't that increase the population? So he's gonna answer that question. She's gonna ask that question. And then he's gonna answer in the follow to clip. So let's get first game to 24.

The population of Africa is set to almost double by 2050, raising fears that progress and fighting poverty and disease will be reversed. So what can be done to ensure that poverty doesn't increase? And how can a disproportionately large youth population help drive progress? With me to discuss all of this and more is Bill Gates bill? Are we at a turning point where regression is a real risk?

Well, first, the progress over the last several decades has been pretty amazing, both reducing childhood death, getting kids in school, getting agricultural productivity up and reducing extreme poverty, but it's really Africa, that still has doubling in population to 24 men and I hate to stop clips like this, but you have to rewind a little bit and listen to the word he uses. affectivity. Yes, which doesn't mean it's a saving anyone. It's just effective for whatever he wants it to do. No, no,

no. That's not how I interpreted. He's talking about the person's affectivity Oh, let me roll this. This is another this is another way of saying fit or unfit? Oh, let me hear it again, where regression is a real risk.

Well, first, the progress over the last several decades has been pretty amazing, both reducing child to death, getting kids in school, getting agricultural productivity up and reducing extreme poverty, but it's really Africa that still has doubling in population to 2050, and probably another doubling to 2100. Where you really have to do a good job if

you're trying to get these extreme poverty rates down. So if we don't do better, and invest in in human cap puzzle in Africa, yes, the number of people in extreme poverty is actually going to go up should the solution or should more solutions be focused on slowing that growth? So for example, increasing reproductive rights for women or spreading the access to contraceptives, because it seems that, is it correct that no amount of investment can really keep pace with that population growth?

Yeah, it's so interesting Mo. Tina and I were just talking about this last night about Africa. And she said, why, what, why am? Why is this been done in Africa? I said, Well, think about it. Hello, if you're, I mean, it because it goes back to true white supremacy, the white supremacy of England, of France, of Germany, of the United States, of course. And if China,

yes, Chinese can be white supremacist, big time. And the whole point is a book, The here's, here's the resources, this is all the stuff we need, you know, we need to make iPhones. So we need cobalt, we need to didn't need to get that cheaply. It's a dirty ass job. So we make sure we got some child labor to do that. We can you know, the French, they actually control and print the money of for African nations,

still to this day. So this is modal control. I mean, when you control the money like that, and the last thing we want, since we control them for the resources, last we want is if there's a whole bunch of them, because then you know, there may be too many, and we can't control them. So we got to keep him keep the growth of that population in check. And this has been going on for maybe 100 years.

And you asked me a question earlier about the mentality about Malcolm X between the liberal and the conservative. This is Bill Gates, and he's a liberal, I would assume. Yeah. And he says, Think about it. Less black people is better. Right? Right. Right. What he's saying he's saying that because he's I think, I don't know if he said in the last clear color and cultural progress and productivity, productivity,

yes. So I say effective way productive, excuse me. But what I'm saying is, I think he says in the next two clips, but I'm just gonna go ahead and just saying alert you to what he's gonna say. So you can listen to it, listen to it, and a certain way, he's gonna say from now to 2050, the population is going to double Africa, right? And then from 2015 to 20 2100, is going to double again. So he's saying, isn't one four for black people better than all four fourths? That's exactly what he's saying.

That's how they sell it. Like, what? Like, how does this help me and then we you don't agree with him. And then the other side comes out, like you're saying like, so that's that. That's, that's the difference between the German Nazi and the American Nazi. Right there is that, hey, it's gotta be good. Trust me this just horrible. So let's go and get into him answering her question. But this is a separate clip. This is not an Amanda, same line of questioning. And this is the

answer to her question. But from another set of clips. In this year's annual letter, Melinda and I take the toughest questions we get asked and give our answers. One that's come up for a long time is, as we make the world healthier, is the population going to get so big that feeding everybody and maintaining the environment is going to be impossible. Here we can see a chart that looks at the total world population over the last several 100 years. And at first glance, this is a bit

scary, where we go from less than a billion in 1800. And then 3456 and 7.4 million where we are today is happening even faster. Some women I wondered whether providing new medicines and keeping children alive, would that create more of a population problem? So scary. Scary. Yeah. Like you see that caring for humans is scary. And they him and Melinda sitting around like, you know what? We don't make them healthy. So what are you saying like, did you have by Did you snowball the

idea of making them unhealthy in order to get the numbers. This is straight out lizard tall. Well, the famous example. I don't know if you have it, but the famous example Bill Gates uses. If we get vaccines to work well in Africa, we'll have less people Yes. And his and of course his explanation is, well, people won't have to have six or seven or eight children because they know a couple will die. But I find that a very sketchy, sketchy explanation of what he's up to.

Since you're from the future, he goes into the exact same thing you laid out and 26 No, no, no, excuse me yet. 26. Yeah. So Melinda and I wondered whether providing new medicines and keeping children alive, would that create more of a population problems? I mean, it's so it's just the way he says that and I'll restart it. They're sitting up there on their throne. So the Queen and I, we were wondering, how can we help these poor serfs, these poor plebs? What can we do for the human

resources who are just dying? They're in the dirt, they're not productive? Certainly not culturally. Wise. Men know, what do you think, Dick. And I wondered whether providing new medicines and keeping children live, would that create more of a population problem? What we found out is that as health improves, families choose to have less children. And this effect is very, very dramatic. We find it in every country of the world, this is repeated, the

population growth goes down as we improve health. So we've taken that chart that shows the global population growth. And we've actually extended it out all the way to 2100. And we can see that instead of continuing, it actually flattens out. Another way to see that is through this rate of population growth. And you can see that in the 60s, that reached a pretty high number over 2% per year. And it's now come way, way down.

Now 11 billion people still a lot. But the good news is that the faster we improve health, the faster family size goes down. And so we can feel great about saving those lives. It's unbelievable. So we're saving lives by not having these children born at all. That's what he's saying. Was that thing you say about jobs saved? Or created? Exactly. That's total saved or created a sick?

But no, that's lizard logic. Yeah. Because there is fight or flight and what is it this very center of the average woman it makes a decision that Roe versus Wade fear the future? Am I gonna be able to understand provide am I going to be assisted by the right person? You know, all that fear and all they doing is he's transferring that fear on you don't want to be part of our problem. Do you know stringing a

billion people but okay, we're working on it. Right? Crazy. And the thing it does that he said was so if it making them healthier year was bad for the environment, and if you didn't have the fact of having family get smaller by education, was you withhold aid? Right? Yeah. Use those if you can really help them it but it would affect your number the wrong way? No, you know, not if you're Bill Gates. Let it go. That's crazy. They sit around and play God like that. What if?

What if we did this Melinda? Oh, that didn't work? Why don't we try this? Oh, the children are Malena they'll die. Oh, I'm sorry. No, the Philippines famous. Still the lawsuit going on. But all this children who are hurt from gates vaccines? Hmm. Yeah. But then what even even more half? I think the vaccine is the education because why is it when people get more educated, they

want to have less children. Now you brought up a good point that some people in some countries have children for the sake of okay, I'm gonna have seats because I know three going down malaria. So you know, I mean, like you run the numbers up, but in the first world, it doesn't play out like that. Why is it? Is it you know, that families get smaller with people that have the more you know, have more money and resources to take care of more children? Why is that? That's to me, that's

indoctrination. Of course. It's something they're learning in schools. This look, look at what's coming out of them. Yes, this they're learning something in school, that's for sure. Right? So let's go and get into 27 calls. Sure of doom and gloom looked real. world population is increasing by 73 people every 10 seconds. It's clear the world population growth remains completely out of control. I bought it totally many of my friends bought it totally

organize an event for 60 people to starve in public. Maybe anybody who's thinking of having a third child or to go hungry a week, the mode became don't have kids. There's nothing in the world. And if your friends have kids, it's fine. If they feel uncomfortable about that, we had formed an organization called Zero population growth. And then Johnny took me on The Tonight Show, Would you welcome Dr. Paul are like to get the death rate and birth rate

imbalanced. And there's only two ways to do it. One is to bring the birth rate down. The other is to push the death rate up. I did this show maybe 20 times and she went from six chapters and 600 members to 600 chapters and 60,000 members. We're starting in now this is the first step. The bag leads belong to a growing number of young marriage who favors EP G's zero population growth. Yeah, Paul Ehrlich I didn't he wasn't he one of the of Obama's science advisors? I'm not sure.

I thought he was I could be wrong about it. I'm not sure whose role it was then with Obama. But if you notice, he said two rates, the birth rate and the death rate. Yeah. Now we don't talk about the death rate too much. But he said, We gotta get both of those numbers. You're saying getting the birth rate now and in the death rate up? Well, you know what, the best way to do that is, is make sure you inject some mRNA into babies of six months of age.

Well, first of all, I mean, you you jumped a step there. You had released something from a Chinese lab. Oh, sorry. Oh, these in the fatties. Yeah, that's how you get deaf right. Now. On the other side, you might hit the death rate and Nunberg free and I know he's talking about his tongue in cheek, but this is how they discuss it like, ah, yeah, we got to release it. But you know, what sentifi is a had a good run over there. 500 pounds, they put it on yourself, you know, there,

this is a real result of their own choosing. And this is how you get you know, quote unquote, Cuf, Arona, Kufa, Rona, it, we're fine, you know, we're healthy, we're live. Yeah, we're allowed, we eat well, we get food and we know, we eat food, actual food. Now, that's the that's the privilege in itself. But as you heard that they were all they were all in their same way, we have to look at it through this lens, because we saw The Population Bomb propaganda that affected them. And see now with

climate change is the same thing being repeated over again. And this is why you have people going out in the streets and screaming and whatever else is because they actually believe the world is gonna come to the end. And on the other side, you have believers, and whatever religion I believe, thinks that our actions are going to bring the world to the end the way the nation is being ran. So you have two sides that believe the same thing but for different reasons. Completely.

That's how savvy white supremacy is. And what I mean say why it's rough talking about the One World Government that globalization all this is about this why you're all the global leaders come out and condemn America like what are you doing? Well, also, we had this song if you look at the G 20, even the g7 A lot of the global leaders have no children. Oh, yeah, you can't eat now you got to talk like you won't be I mean, when you get to that level, I mean, only in America you

except Except Oh, this is so interesting. You know, queen, Ursula, Ursula fondle is she's the president of the European Union Commission. I think she's the she's the one with the helmet hair and you've seen her? Oh, yeah, yeah. And she's German. This fits so into what you're saying. So she breaks the Boris Johnson had oatmeal, but he has kids with all kinds of loads going on with Boris John. He's out to get Boris Johnson

has got kids. And Macron no kids. Merkel no kids. Margarita Dutch Prime Minister, no kids, there's probably six or seven of them with these examples. The new queen of Europe is not really the queen but she's the president of European Union. Totally from a political family. German background. eight kids. All beautiful blond hair, blue eyes. This is a huge thing in Germany. We know this because this is historical. Yes, this is exactly what I'm saying. So 10 of those kids is great. Plan.

She's the Muti she's been a great mother. Every piece you read about her. She's so good. We're that kid. It's totally the Von Trapp family. Man. That's so there's a turning a corner that going away from okay, no kids now these you want you want this? These are the kids you want. They're perfect always been like that. This has always been out facing problem again. By the way, the von Trapps we're not Nazis, the von Trapps were the ones hunted, but there was a perfect family Austrian family,

right? Desire the desirable family. So let's get back against once again to The Population Bomb part 28 Ehrlich's views on how to bring that birth rate down, we're concrete, compulsion if voluntary methods fail, creating a blacklist of people, companies and organizations impeding population control in the United States, responsibility prizes. Child was marriages, attacks on children, and the luxury tax on diapers and cribs

are concerns about population became misanthropic. And it was taken with so much seriousness that Paul Ehrlich could recommend things like putting stuff in public water that would make people not as fertile. Panic is not too strong a word to use for some of the advocates that I referred to as true believers. It appears that large families are on the way out and ZG may be possible.

The idea also took hold in the developing world, where governments like India's had already begun to embrace population control the core message of the bulk population growth outstripping food supply resonated quite a bit with India's elites with the middle classes, they much preferred to believe that the poor were poor, because of too many children rather than being poor because of an unfair and unequal economic system.

Sorry, to harp on this, but it was John Holdren, who was in the Obama administration as scientific as the science advisor. And he had written the book with Ehrlich population and panaceas a technological perspective and that was written in 1969 so these people were in with in the White House up until Trump Oh, yeah, they're all in they're all in with their religion and

you heard her say true believers this Yeah. True belief dude. I thought science changes I mean like that but that's no no no, no, no, no. Only when the scientists say the science is changed does the science change is very right that's what makes the anti science because no kidding if new data comes then your your perspective is supposed to change according to the new data. But this is a belief it's so ingrained in my to their worldview is bananas insane. But you're gonna put stuff in the

water? Yeah. Like Alex Jones we're gonna shoot gay frogs. I mean, yeah, lithium fluoride, all kinds of stuff. Yeah, cuz we had two doctors saying that for Berkeley. They got black ball. Yeah, for talking about this stuff. They are putting in Atrazine, atrazine, atrazine. Atrazine is also in fertilizers and I think weed killers and everywhere. Yeah, you get that in the water? Yeah, it turns the frogs gay. Right. And it shortens boys

taint. I discuss it with Joe Rogan. And in general, fertility rates amongst men in the United States have dropped significantly. It's, it's a disaster. Which is exactly what you get with Elon Musk, and golly, MO. I think you're right. It's not the it's not that Elon? Is he's on ease with the depopulation guys, I'm telling you this guy's Oh, so he's, he's on the side of Oh, yeah. We need more children. But it has to be the right kind of children. That's what he left out of his statement.

Yeah, for the people that are not then I'll say read my chip. That way you can have artificial intelligence they bought shares out to the fit and plant children. Yeah, you get the implants. Again, and Elon Musk company, neuro link. Now, I think people misunderstand who Elon Musk really is and what he's all about. Because, yeah, that was not a tick, how to tickle your ears with certain things. But

he's agent of change. He's not a good guy. I will remain saying that until proven otherwise, he's not a good guy. I'm on board with you, especially those poor monkeys. Number 20. If you start with that problem definition, then it's almost inevitable that there will be circumstances where governments and other actors will act in a way that is coercive. In the mid 1970s, the Indian government began a controversial program to encourage mass sterilization.

We do want to create an atmosphere in which people realize the importance of this program. It led to abuses, access to food aid and housing were sometimes used as coercion. Others weren't even given a choice. More than 8 million sterilizations were performed. Many forcibly the people, in the words of one family planning expert were

treated like cattle. The Green Revolution is farming technology helped lessen rates of hunger in the developing world over the decades, even as the world's population skyrocket, there's a tendency to apply to human beings, the same sort of models that may apply for the insect world. The difference, of course, is that human beings are conscious beings, and we do all kinds of things to change our destiny.

That story is playing out today in parts of India, in growing cities, like Chennai, and the South large families once needed for farming are no longer always seen as the key to success. Previously, my father used to have four children. And my grandfather used to have seven children. But the things are changed the even myself, I have only two children. Even my sister is having only one kid, because no education becomes the first priority. Wow, this is good. I mean,

that's the trifecta right there. The education, that's the part nobody ever talks about, and how it affects people's perspective on reproduction. And even the people that will be born, the control mechanisms being put in place right now over our food supply is of enormous consequence. You know, I, I have a lot of contact with Texas slim, he's, he he's my age a little bit younger. He's trying to educate people about the importance of animal

protein. He's in Texas. So of course, focus on beef. And what is happening with a very small amount of food processors who are basically they're taking the soil and the animal out of your diet, your the feed that they give to cows and animals they're going to give to you. So they're going to bypass. Yes, yes,

they're cutting grain. Yes. Well, and this came up, because there was a bird seed package that someone should packaging, if someone sends a picture up to me, and it was, you know, you know, farmed for the future, it's mealworms, mealworms, for for birds, bird seed, and all these, you know, genetically selected for a number of highest quality mealworms. And then in not small letters, it says, not yet approved for human

consumption. And so basically, they will keep us functional enough to live on minimum protein, which will be measured, your, your Apple Watch will feed back your levels. And, yeah, it'll be it'll be bugs, it'll be soy, and it'll, it'll have great texture and taste, because that's what they're doing. They're focusing on texture and taste. And as long as you get

that, right, people will eat it, certainly Americans. And the answer, they're going to control everything, through your food supply through your money, your housing, yeah, your car, the cars are gonna be a service, you're not going to own a car in the next five years. Your kids mo I don't know if they'll own a car. To be honest with you, the only reason my daughter to interest in driving his cars, we moved away from the Uber over heavy

area. Before then it was just all happening back at Uber and goes to the mall or go to Ubers going away to Ubers going away all these non profitable companies, the so called unicorns, the cheap money, right is over, you know that that's just over so you'll see it. Anything that is not made Twitter is in same Jeopardy. It's Netflix, Spotify, all these companies that have never turned a profit except maybe one year or one quarter with some some

bookkeeping, accounting tricks that make it look better. It's over. The convenience world is going to go away. You'll see what and we're Ober now only raw Uber had was and this is a good metaphor was to get the human out of the car. Get it well disassociate the ownership, I think you get people thinking about it. Well, you had to get rid of cabbies. So what they did was I use Uber Uber drivers to get rid of cabbies and then now just remove the driver from the Uber car now. That's the plan.

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or a guideline for fitness. And that's basically fitness is just meant fit to reproduce. And I like to give people an example of they see it right in front of your face. Every time you've seen one of the most popular movies, probably in America, Forrest Gump. Remember that movie when he like it was arbitrary line of IQ. And it was basically your mama shoes shooter care about your education boy, he was Mr. Guevara, that kind of thing. But that basically decided to patent

his life and to say Are you mentally fit or not? And that's just a great example of how I used to be, if you will consider feeble minded sterilization or I mean, all those realities. But intellect has a lot to do with it with fitness. So have you ever heard of William Shockley before? name sounds for this actually sounds like someone that Alex Jones might have had on. Now he's the CO creator. I think the resistor. Know, doesn't doesn't ring a bell. It rings a bell somewhere, but I'm not sure.

He might have been in the well, who knows. But um, let's see. Because he was like, he's out on night in the tech world. But in 1974, he came out with this new theory and he is speaking on what's called dis Genex. And that's what we opened up the show Eisah with oh, here we go. Okay, it just Yes, just just, ya

know, we had a long way home when we got there. So this is basically he goes into, like, basically the criteria of fitness or his idea of it, but before he does that, the host of the show gives his great monologue, which I think shows like the value in our show. So I'd like to play that first. And then we can, we could talk about noon, we'll get into the actual clips. Back in the 70s, a man named Dr. William Shockley, a noted scientist embarked upon the mission of proving to the world

that black people are genetically inferior. Without I might add the benefit of any formal background in genetics. He became front page news and one headlines with his controversial views on campus after campus unrest followed his every visit. My position then and now is that if a supremacist cannot be rationally debated, perhaps he has a point. After the debate, you're now going to see Dr. Shockley went back into

oblivion. I don't claim that the 1973 interview did it alone. But I am of the opinion that it helped Tony Brown in a moment, racial superiority. With Dr. William Shockley. I know who Shockley is now. Okay, he's one of the one of the OG guys of the transistor that you're right, that kicked off Silicon Valley he had a design I think this is the guy people said he might have gotten from the aliens have some weird story about that. Tall Whites.

Man, he's in your right he's totally in Silicon Valley around the same time as as as brand and, and the well and all that. Yeah. And this guy was a total you Genesis if I recall. It's funny because I didn't know that connection about the aliens. And that's why I brought up the tall white because the Aryans believe are like another I mean, some of them believe in like a nother race of being almost super, super human. That's what it's the periodicity thing comes from now.

I think it was maybe DeVore I have to ask him about this. I think it was that after area 51 You know, the crash of the called alien spacecraft. Not long after that he came out with the Shockley semiconductor. Make sense? I mean, I've made a big just as a quick aside on Aliens. I don't think aliens are for different planets. I think they're from different dimensions and kind of like

dimension jumpers. And yeah, so that's that's not too far fetched for me to believe that they bring information here that can be used in quote unquote technology. Yeah, and a lot there's a lot that went on after the Roswell thing. Yeah, this guy needs some more study. Okay, well, you've got here you've got a study on him. So let's open the books teach. Alright, 32. Now let's find out what the controversy is about Dr. Shockley. Please give us the benefit basically, of what your

theory is. My principal point, Mr. Brown. is not so much a theory of black white differences, but is summed up in one word, which is the theme of my appearance on your program and my efforts, and the word is dis Genex. And dis Genex means effectively down breeding retrogressive evolution. And I fear that this is worst for the black community. And I particularly welcome an opportunity to appear on Black

Journal just for these reasons. And let me say also, that when I first met Dr Wellspring, it was not black students who were disrupting but white students. And Dr. Wellspring made a very sincere and I thought extremely effective effort. Well planned effort, it was not effective with these white students and Staten Island community college so I would have a chance to speak. In fact, I think they prevented her from saying what she wanted to say when she was trying to gain me a platform.

Okay, so basically, his idea is one with dis Genex. And he's saying that black people will participate in dis Genex at a higher rate than any other people. And that's basically we're breeding unfit and going backwards. You're saying devolving mentally, physically are both fit mentally, okay? Because physically, physically, physically, there was a whole different path because we needed great athletes. So clearly, clearly, we did something different than he

even makes that case. And this is why I my mouth, saying, Well, my feathers ruffled about Rogan's comment. It wasn't about him using the N word is buying into the science that blacks come from monkeys or subhuman. That's a very scientific take. Because I mean, if people want, again, to Galton and Darwin,

you're saying like, they believe that, you know that. And whites appear supremacy, by when we hear that where you hear about when people say white supremacy, think about a guy in Kentucky on the back of a pickup truck with a you got to federate flag got to think kings and queens in the 16th 17th century, very well, even, like I said, doctors in the understanding the 30s 40s 20s, you know, that, you know, what, you know, elite breeding, breeding of the great breeding of the fish, excuse me,

not the unfit. It's very cold, it's a cold is a guest actually a cold calculated science, behind the you know, of, you know, phenotypes, and, you know, all the bloodlines, keeping bloodlines pure, there's all kinds of versions of this.

That's true. And the problem with it is, you can't separate nature from nurture, you know, saying, because if you grow if you're born as a baby, like I said, it was like a computer, you bought a computer, and then you take one, and you get all the anti virus on it, and you're safe, where you you're saying what you download when you buy only legit software and that kind of thing. And we should take the same as that computer.

And then you go on, like all the shady websites, and clicking links and download and all kinds of corrupt files and everything else. How do you separate the nature from the nurture? And you can't from human to human? That Oh, that's a good comparison. I like that. It's a good analogy. Right? So what what is it there's a computer faulty from the

beginning. And that's what white supremacist believe that, you know, this computer is just has a lower specs, you know, is not going to be you're saying it's not in comparison to the other computer over here, or is interesting that the guy who literally developed the transistor effect would view a human human existence and human species with very much the same way. Right? It's the same thing with Bill Gates. See, is it something there with when they get to a certain level enlightenment, you

know, it's all we can look at people the same way we do. I think when the other clip, the other guy from The Population Bomb, he studied butterflies with a monarch butterfly that we don't know, but he said it. And they say it and try to translate that to humans. And I don't think you can do that. The only way you can do that with was twins. But that's another story for another day, because you had to have identical genetics to say, you know, if this is the same case, because in science,

you can only have one variable. So you can't compare. I'm one human to another human. There's too many variables. But let's go ahead and let him get further into his theory. Dr. shocked that you are accused of having a theory that is a racist, a white racist theory. How do you respond to that? Well, I respond to that by saying that I've considered whether or not I am a racist racist is an epithet that used to damage my self esteem, but it doesn't anymore. I feel it's

untrue. If you look in the dictionary as to what racist means It means emotional feelings irrational feeling names associated with fear and hate. If I really had those, I don't think I would be here this evening, I feel that what I'm engaged in is the demand for diagnosis. And I'd like to say some more about this chart, which we'll, we'll come to probably later, which shows the disproportionate rates of reproduction for the least effective elements of the black

community. I'd like to say more about that, and we shouldn't just this brief introduction. But I think there is another word that better describes what I'm involved in. And that word is race psychology, which means a scientific analysis of racial differences. And I, basically, I have a face that reason is a

good thing. And I feel as you do about the First Amendment, but maybe with a slightly different emphasis, I think the really important thing about the First Amendment is, it is a way of guaranteeing a high likelihood the truth will emerge as a result of conflict, conflicting ideas being expressed. And I have a thesis and a basic beliefs, the truth is a good thing and will be a benefit to man. Okay, he has my attention.

So you're hearing a stone cold, lively, his thought is based in he believes logic, science. And he opens up and I gotta be very careful how I say this, because I don't want any any credence to the idea that one group is genetically superior to another group. Now, do we have our traits that we know were better that and some people I mean, look at was it the Kenyan running team? I mean, made they make the obvious that it's something that can you water

would that you can't run out, run them in long distance? What is that? I mean, but in other things that they say intelligence, because the way intelligence is measured, is the flaw. Right? It's kind of like with the COVID test, it's like, it's a testing mechanism. That's the flaw. Yes, of course. Yeah, this is so but besides all that, the whole idea of saying, well, even if it was true, oh, this brain blood, the black brain just doesn't have the capacity to to develop the

intelligence of the white brain. Even if that were true, who made you God to go say, well, we shouldn't have any of these people. That's the sick thing. What he's more into, he believes there's a component and he's gonna get to a chart, eventually, he believes there are a component of black people that have you know, are capable of thinking and, you know, saying processing at a high

level. Yeah, his issue is that the wrong people. Too many of the wrong people are having babies and too many of the right people are not having babies. Today, Margaret, Margaret Sanger is line right there. Well, let's, let's use I mean, this is what we can you get the door for a second? Because you're heavy. Okay, we're all alone now. Now, we got to go back to the camera, Samuel episode. And we talked about the black women with PhDs deferring birthing and

child rearing and that kind of thing. In lieu of having a career, I mean, to have a career. Correct. So see, you're saying so those women are not having children are having to admit at a higher rate, while people that may not be, quote, unquote, understand what they consider fit, or having a bunch of babies. And that's his logic, but I'm, I'm open to the conversation not about having too many, because that's not my conversation. My conversation is, is it deliberate that the

ideal people are not having enough kids? And is that a planned attack? Well, it certainly seems now that we're behind closed doors, it certainly seems that the entire policy of of the government is to pay the so called unfit birthers. To have more because there's, there's just there's child support. There's all kinds of things that just get poured onto you. But I think that probably is a direct beeline to Planned Parenthood. Right, will they create the conditions of over sexualizing

that that is a key component of it. And the byproduct of that you're singing, programming and mind control is unwanted bursts. Now they think they have it covered with Planned Parenthood is like oh, we can basically mind control then if they make a mistake, then we get cleaned it up for now the problem is the ones that won't go along with having you're saying they're you know, the The procedure, it's no longer effective, I think is was not as effective as they'd like it to be perhaps.

Right. So that's, that's why they fight it tooth and nail, you know, saying to make it available at every option in any interval of time. So I guess we can open the door back. Everybody's okay, we're fine. Just a quick little, yeah, back and forth. So there there is, he brings up some interesting conversation points. Like I said, I didn't know credence to his idea of supremacy anyway. But it does raise the question now and modern day Tom's because we got to look at Clarence Thomas. And

katachi. Brown Jackson, they have white mate. Yes. Is there a brain? Or is there a black brain drain going on in our race, where either they won't have children. I know that how biracial children outside it with people outside the race. You know, that's a real conversation that needs to be

had. And I don't think it's a it's a purposeful, but when you isolate somebody at an Ivy League school, I mean, it's only mathematically makes sense that they get with somebody of their, of another race, you know, just by chance. One of our friends, the liberal school teacher, the liberal high school teacher, who I, I really do like her, I really like her because she's so open. She's she's, she sticks to her views and stuff. But she also is a little tired of some things, but

she's very open to discussing things. And ebb, she said something that I thought was pretty profound. As we were talking about race and just a bit we tackle and we talked about Roe v. Wade, we talked about all the all the big topics. And she said, you know, my, my grandfather used to say something that I agree with says, the concept that America is a great melting pot, she says, that's really not true.

That's not really who we are. We're a soup. We're a soup, and you got your salary over here and your carrots over there, and you got some beef over here, you got some, whatever it is. And that really, that doesn't mean that you can't have interracial marriages and children. But that is kind of where we're at, in general. And if you look at the pure numbers, and it's really beautiful that way. And there's some, there's something about it's like, it's like, I know if I ever see you face to face.

First of all, I'd be like, I knew it. I knew you'd look like them. So I knew it. So that would be the first and, and then it'd be like, you know, you have a different culture as an American. And I'd be super cool. I can't wait to have food with you and your family. And I'd love to have you over to mine. You know, that's the beauty of it. And that's the point of diversity compared to a multi call. Yes, yes. Yes. They what they want to do is take the

stool, put it in a blender. Yeah. And make it better on high and make it make it brown goo that's thin. We're not we're No, no, no, no long. No long factors between any of the ingredients. That correct that beef is that potato mash you choose to be you're saying if you choose you

choose you love who you love. I've always made that clear. But as Joe Biden has pointed out on several occasions, and we covered it in a previous show, you know, maybe we need to look at commercials and propaganda, this, you know, push an agenda for interracial relationships. You're seeing it too, obviously. Right? And I've seen it way off because my wife our role, every time we were saying we were seeing on television, cobble

pointed out. So you met her record, do you see a commercial because every other commercial is either only black people, or there's five black and brown people. I mean, it's it's completely out of whack with with the actual distribution. And so, what I find interesting is that Adam and Tina sit at home and roll our eyes. And Moe and Mrs. Faxon at home and roller. No, actually, my wife rolls my eyes at me for pointing out the fact that what I was saying, let me clarify on that. Because she

knows I'm gonna fill her she's like, Oh, here you go again. But she gets it got to the point of, especially mattress commercials. You know, say it was like, I must see two black people laying in a bed testing the mattress out. I mean, like it that was the most it was like that's the conditioning of indoctrination. And I'd say it's, it's more of a global thing that you know, it is an individual thing. It's a global thing. It's done through the financial markets.

It's ESG environmental, social governance. These companies have to show their Social side. And so they're just doing what they're told to do. Otherwise they're on investable, stock price goes down, et cetera, et cetera. And let me be clear before we get I think started for, I think we're going into fall. But let me make something clear. The issue I have with it is the great thing that you don't need

to play on people's insecurities. You know, they play a lot on people's insecurities, to sell them whatever agenda they're trying to sell them. And that's why that's why I don't appreciate. We do not appreciate them. We just don't, I don't appreciate it at all, but think we started four or five. Let me double check real quick. I think we have four here. Yeah. Number 35. Okay,

here we go. But now, let me say this chart that I held up a moment ago, is very important in respect to this question of why I think there may be what proves the basic difference. But I'm going to say that if there were not a basic difference, and intellectual capacity in the past, there probably will be a basic difference between black and white intellectual capacity in the future, simply because of the reproduction patterns. And these are Census Bureau data. And this is the most threatening

aspect. And what it indicates is that for the black women have the lowest intellectual social class, which are rural farm women, generally, the education at least, the average number of children is 5.4. For women with college degrees, it's 1.9. And so this is definitely unfavorable it is it is reproducing far more at the bottom end, but not enough to keep even at the top end. Let me just finish this for whites. The numbers are also in this direction, but nowhere nearly as as severe.

Okay, well, gosh, golly, thanks, man. We know whites can fall into that same dome trap as well. Right? That's what I'm saying. It's not exclusive. No, no, they'll kill anybody. Right? Oh, yeah, we need to kill whoever is dumb, whoever we think is dumb. And I had a epiphany out here saying like, well, I'm working in the yard. And we have flowers that we planted purposefully. And then we have weeds that blow into the flower, garden.

Unwanted. And it's like, who gives me the right? That's weed flowers, just like my flowers that some of them are very pretty, by the way, is that if you give them time, and why don't know, it's, and the struggle is real, because it's like, I didn't plant that. And it grew on its own. You see, I'm saying so it's, but we had like a look at our Sabbath. That's at but following the same analogy, some weeds strangle the other plants. And that's the light lizard logic. Right? Exactly.

We don't have time to figure out if he's gonna strangle my plan, right children is not what I plan. It is not planning. I don't know the, the genealogy of this plant of the sea. Go get rid of it. Exactly. That's exactly what's going on. And they won't and they use the same Atrazine on the plants they use on people. Right, but you know what, those seeds have been genetically engineered to survive the Atrazine. You know, it's been designed that way, the same way. They won't let their children

have iPad. Children watch mainstream media, because they know it's like, this is poisonous, you know, so we're going to make sure we can avoid it, or we can mitigate the effects of it. It's very, it's very deep, what goes on and it's basically these people are playing God at the end of the day, and not in a literal way. I mean, he's literally just he's out there just saying doesn't even doesn't even realize he's doing it. I don't think

it's it's purposeful. And it's like, I hate to be the bearer of bad news, Bush, you know, these weeds gotta go. And that's something that Margaret Sanger was known for saying call calling people human weeds. And that's the whole point of a weed, it chokes out as you say, It chokes out the space and resources because the nutrients in your garden is finite, right? There's only a certain a certain amount of units and nutrients

that are in the soil. So we had to preserve those nutrients for our desired planet. The analogy is complete. I got you. Alright, so we started for what 34 We go to 35. I was wondering to explain the basic difference between hid the course he is taking and explaining white supremacy. Of course that took And and during the Nazism race. Thank you. Well, there are enormous differences. In fact, the lesson to be learned from Nazi history is frequently very

misunderstood. And it is a lesson which Mr. Brown has told us about earlier. It's the first amendment. It's not that eugenics is intolerable. Actually, the eugenic programs which are the opposite of dis Genex eugenic programs are not inconceivable, they're not inhumane. Denmark has been carrying out programs with strong eugenic implications for maybe 30 years. And it's important to note that since World War Two, Denmark's per capita homicide rate dropped,

and is now approximately 120. US that is the number of deaths probability being killed a year by by a violent homicide is roughly on the order of 100 times less for young Danes than it is for young American blokes. Can I Oh, the but the lesson let me say what the the lesson of Nazi history we have in this country, and it will protect us. It's just the thing that makes

this program possible. The First Amendment which allows freedom of speech, if one believes that is not the right answer, then one has to be one of the most anti German racist the can be if one believes that the German people would have tolerated the

concentration camps in the gas chambers. If the news media, like the programs that Mr. Brown is setting on, if those people were willing to bring discordant views out in the open, I don't believe the concentration camps in the gas chambers could have continued to exist in Germany. Well, we throws a curveball. This is why I respect William Shockley. He says it. Yeah, he says what he feels and I wish Bill Gates would say that, and I

wish all the other lizard people would say it, say it. So when you want to get rid of you. What he's saying is if if everyone was honest, back in Nazi Germany, and we said, look, we just don't want you. And they would have been honest about it. And the news media would have reported them saying we just don't want you go away. Then he says there would have been no need to exterminate people. Right? Oh, oh, wow. Yeah, yeah. No, I, yes. Boy, it may not have

happened. But a lot of other things. I think there's probably still a lot of good in the world. Hopefully people will say, well, we don't like your idea. So yeah, I'm with you. The First Amendment. So that's the only difference between us and Nazi Germany is the First Amendment and we're not using it right, apparently. Right. And that's why I played the first clip from Mr. Brown, the host of the show to say, open dialogue is the only way this works. Malcolm X said it you gotta get people to the

table. Yeah, have the conversation put aside a fence to make progress. Now, the great thing about this was Dr. Francis, Chris Wilson was debating quote, unquote, debating William Shockley. But she even as you heard him, say, in the previous clips, she made sure he always had a platform. So he could be cut so he could voice his theory. And then she, you know, she could counter it. So now she's going to speak to him and his possible shared audiology with Nazis.

I'd like to comment is I'd like to say that I don't think that there's a major difference between what Dr. Shockley is doing. I don't think that Dr. Shockley is fully aware of what he is doing and why he is doing what he's doing. But the long range implications of what he is doing are no different than the propaganda campaign that Hitler and his Nazi unit carried on in Germany that ended up eliminating 6 million Jewish

people. Now what is most interesting is that Hitler said the very same thing he said, number one, that the Jews were genetically inferior to the Aryans think is very, very

important. Even though that is shot the I am convinced that Dr. Shockley believes that he is perhaps elevating science with all of his charts and all of his figures, but he doesn't understand the things that propel him as a white individual in a social system that has programmed him throughout his life and program large numbers of people like him to focus on the genetics of people of color in such a way as to destroy people of color. Wow, this is that was Francis Wilson.

Yes. She's good. Yeah. Oh, she She's a beast with it. Like say, this is how you have a debate. And this is where we've devolved from being so you got to ask the question. Are we actually devolving? People have to ask this question, and like I say, I am nowhere near your genius you Genesis because I believe everybody has the right to live. But we also had to look at the now uses word perversely the stock of America and what's

going on right now and say II what is actually going on? You know, and I'm more from the side of it, that we you don't tend to garden. That's the problem. I'm not the man who's selecting what gets to grow and what doesn't get to grow. I'm more about you have to nurture it. And that goes back to my point that you need to have one parent in the household, you know, teaching the children copying, that's the only way you further, you know, civilization.

I don't feel like dis Genex was really explained in these in that series. Ah, do you want to give a review? You don't? Oh, he's been a number two. I mean, 32? I mean, we basically it's like, we're going backwards. To many other all people that haven't too many babies. Wow, the right people are not having baby. Right. Well, what's the just Genex part? That is? That is literally just janky is that literally this? genic? Okay, no, I thought dis Genex was I thought it was something

you could actually do like you Genesis. You could have dysgenesis, but I guess not. No. Well, it's the complete opposite. Because eugenics is basically is Planned Parenthood versus unplanned parenthood. That's what he's saying. Like eugenics is being mindful of how we have children. This Genex is the wrong people having too many kids. And it's total. God got it. Got it. Got it. Got it. Got it. Okay. So far. Yeah, it was it was that that hope, man at

20? I think it's like, almost 30 minutes is so much chocolate. So you'll be hearing back from from right. I think we both agree that you know, the DIS Genex part. Well, if we had education actually working, functioning this, your kids could go, then we know it would be better. That's part of the problem. That is a problem. Regardless of color. You get you get over socialized under informed highly medicated human

resources. That's a recipe for disaster. And I think that's what we're looking at right now. Right. So you were he doesn't factor in nature versus nurture. He's complete on the nature side of it. But he doesn't factor in the component of nurture, which I think is far greater. And as a quick aside, another one is we saw this in trading places. And that's what that whole $1 wager was about. Is it genetics, you know, is that black man and his position that he's in Eddie

Murphy, because of his genetics or opportunity? And is that white man in the position? You know, I think it was not one dagger. Who was there Ackroyd? Manuel Mortimer Mortimer No, no, no, the One A 10 Ackroyd? Yes. You okay? Yeah. So they took him and put him they swapped their places. It said, Wherever genetics, then the black guy will fail. And the white guy will still succeed, right? So I'm on I'm on the site. And that's what the experiment proved is it's nurture. Not nature,

clearly. And where's the science on that? Read the scientists saying this? Oh, no, they don't want to do that because they that Dion's as racist. That's why Mo. Oh, you got to find out more than you ever know. 37. But very few people are aware that the idea originated not in Nazi Germany. But in the United States two to three years before Hitler two to three decades before Hitler came to power. As American eugenicist, went on a campaign to create a white

master Nordic race, blond and blue eyed. Now, what are we talking about? We're talking about the idea of eugenics eugenics itself started in Victorian England. There was a scientist, his name was Francis Galton, the cousin of Darwin, Charles Darwin. And this guy, Gordon had these ideas that if if talented, skilled, and wealthy people married other talented, skilled and wealthy people, they would have talented, skilled and wealthy children. And so he tried to

find a way to quantify the idea of a good marriage. And he came up with this term from the Greek debt, he invented eugenics, meaning good life or good birth. Oh, man, that's so fantastic. Because the proof is in the pudding. Right now. You can go to The Hamptons, Long Island, New York. And you can just you know, just ask someone or you

can just look in the local paper. And this is where all the rich people of New York and maybe just in general, the banking world, all the smart people, all the beautiful people all come together all vacation And together I have friends who go there religiously. We'd love being with their friends and all their kids are not all a large proportion are assholes. And they're in trouble. They're getting arrested they're getting kicked out of shit. They're the district disruptive. It's nurture.

Like I said that's the I've always been big on nurture when you limit opportunity men and like an actual literal nurture you feed kids poor diets, high sugar, I mean it crazy Crazy things I all host of problems. So definitely has the problem but they bring up Golson and Charles Darwin and this is where you say science is racist. So I said more do you ever know Do you know the full name of Charles Darwin's most famous book? No. Do you know the name of it?

Was evolution isn't it the evolutionary biology or what is it? No, I don't know. It's natural selection. Oh natural selection. Yeah, I should have known that Yes. Natural Okay. Ah, it says for the preservation of Favoured Races in the

struggle for life favored races. Now this is everybody who everybody wants to meet in the new evolution came from and we need to listen to him but he was a song called white supremacist saw me like literally literally him and his cousin that so that wound I want to just find natural selection. That was the title of the book. I'm gonna miss the felt was called that. Let me see. Let me go back. I don't think it was I think I'm on duty to do dude, how about

No, he was mostly the Origin of Species species. I know. It's the is the origin of species read the full title though. The origin it says The Origin of Species by means of natural selection or the Oh my goodness. Yeah. Okay, so from the title. Looking I'm looking at an actual scan in the show notes everybody. So I'll read it. The order so it's Charles Darwin. Yeah, well, I'm just gonna do the whole thing The Origin of Species by means of natural selection or the preservation of

Favoured Races in the struggle for life. Oh, man, this isn't what what kind of sigh up is this they shortened the title this is fantastic. Because it's inconvenient. Oh hell yeah. But then you tell me Oh, just science truck No, no man right races sizes races. Well, you have quote unquote sciences talking about favorite races. Very convenient. Very I'm putting this image in the show notes too as great. Now you see The Population Bomb is nothing compared to like the old Jesus

know the OG and this is this is not known. Door. Okay. Well, what is not discussed at all? So every time somebody says trust science, no, no, no, no, no. And this is this mindset with why you have segregated waterfowl. Just because you had black people carried disease and you know, it you could catch blackness, you know, this desk. Oh, I totally caught blackness from you. Oh, totally. That's, that's no, but it was like, you know, like, literally like it was

diseased like leprosy. But why they looked at it. This is so beautiful to know and people need to memorize this. Memorize because Darwin is so often used just cavalierly. So you mean the guy who said natural selection? Actually, the preservation of Favoured Races in the struggle for life? That's the guy you're talking about? Yeah, that's the guy was talking about? Yeah. Wow. Wow. I said, Wow, a lot this show more than usual.

Number 38. These ideas were imported into the United States at the turn of the last century, meaning in the early 1900s. Now, what was that time like? It was a time of great racial, ethnic and demographic, upheaval and conflict. What did we have? We had millions of Jews coming in from the east, from Eastern Europe, from Russia from Poland. We had millions of blacks in the post reconstruction and post Civil War era, who were be who were being integrated into United States. society Indians

were being integrated into the United States society. Millions of Asians had come in from the west as demographic as indentured laborers. And millions of Mexicans were now in US territory as as a result of Mexican American wars, in which we took over a great amount of Mexican territory, territory. And there were a bunch of white guys, some scientists, some wealthy people, men of privilege, people, whose names most people don't know, names, like Charles Davenport, and

Harry Laughlin. And they wanted it the way it was. They wanted it the way it was when their fathers were running the country. And this is why you have the creation of the One Drop room. Black Black was really a political designation, to prevent people from what the same way I talked about the red and blue states, and they're building political fences around their states. They build a political fence around

whiteness. And not necessarily like I said, That's why when people do they use these trivial terms, they don't they don't do it justice to get to the root cause and root understanding of what's really going on and discard you get white skin don't mean you white, or supremacist, right? Because like you said, those people that go to those places like Martha's Vineyard and those kinds of things, those that that's who they look at as white, like, who's your family, you know, we're blessed check

your lineage. Who's your grandfather? Who's your great grant, you know, that kind of thing? This is why it was so easy to accept the Obamas because, you know, well spoken wasn't a Biden himself, who said he's very well spoken very, very well spotted where he was that none because his lineage on his on his on his mother's side, oh, yeah, very deep. That's what opened the that's what opened the door for him. But I just want to go back to you brought up that little boy hidden

cussing out of cops and stuff. That is the result of programming at the earliest ages. And this is how they this is why CRT is so important. And you wonder why why is it that people that say they like black people push all the pours into him? You know, like, like that kind of program that child had is because they don't want them to reproduce. That's That's what, that's what. Yeah, that's what a lot of this

sexuality stuff is about the whole. Yeah. And then and then to, to say, oh, no, no, you can have Don't worry, don't worry, you can still have a you can still have children. There's no intent. so intent on any of that. How long have you know, how long have you known about this, this particular part about Darwin's? True, right? For a very long time, and you saved all this through, like 80 episodes, because I remember doing one drop rule that was early on,

right? Because you have this layer on top, a layer on top of layer light when Hitler got his ideas from America. Everybody thinks that we went to Germany and got eugenics and all that. No, no, no, no, no. He was a fanboy of what we had going on over here. Crikey. By the gain of function, everything you see with fat that's just a repeat of all of this is the same thing. It's the it's the the order codifying of science, for the sake of progress,

which means less people at the end of the day. They should close. Yeah, you. I'm not easily flummoxed. Although this does happen a lot on this show. This was a big one. I'm really appreciate it. You have one more clip here. Yeah, so we talked about eugenics. I've mentioned this term before, but now we find out about new Genex. But now, there's a resurgence of the same impulse that caused eugenics in the first place. I'm speaking of new Genex. And this

time, it will not be racial dogma and national flags. This time it will be globalization, profit, bottom line, corporate activity that determines who is fit and who is not fit to continue their existence and legislators are seeing this as the new threat of discrimination in the 21st century, and anti genetic legislation is already embraced by nation To all over

the world. And this legislation is in our Congress. Now, surely after I speak, the first vote is going to take place in the Senate to adopt anti genetic discrimination laws to stop gene lining. We all remember what redlining was. Now it will be

gene lining. And so as we go into the dazzling 21st century of genetic genies, we hope to help as many miracles as possible come our way, but we also ask that Wall Street and these corporations in our society, look over their shoulder and make sure that genetics does not return from whence it came. Well enter the mRNA vaccines, answer your ERG score, I think it's called erg. ESG

ESG ESG Excuse me. We just learned that in a laboratory, at least, but it comes from makalah Calais, the king McCauley you can't you can't mess with his credentials. Dr. Makala he says oh no, we now have proven in a lab that the RNA vaccination does change DNA and once that now you're at that now you're at the Gen from genetics is in the genes now now you're in so now we can and there is a law that you can't discriminate against

someone's genes or genetic differences. And I think that's what this was probably referring to. Oh, man, I mean this when you when we take it to that level, it gets into something that I know I could I can because it's a fun science fiction movie. Yeah, we had to change we had to change the genetics we had to kill off a whole bunch of invalidates anyone with any kind of flaw including obesity gone and it's about creating inferiority you so you don't

feel worthy to reproduce see? This is bad white supremacy is very subtle This is very interesting thing about it. That's why when when people jump out the fence and you're saying like white hoods No, it's not the white hoods it's the white coats you gotta be worried about not the white hoods is the white coats tell ya and all it's it's a big plan if you look at it like that. Where we are right. A

small group of people Yeah. but big enough I'd save 6% to try and they'll probably wind up killing off 6% globally Yeah, but then now scare others into not won't fill in that what their biggest problem is people filling that worry that it had kids. Oh, no, that's that's the that's the more that we're already done. We would you would need we would need such an incredible counter campaign to turn that back. That's what dogs are people to was about. Oh, I can't afford a kid. And hey,

man, no kidding. The diapers are expensive. Oh, yeah. That's part of the plan. Part of the plan. You're right baby formula known as the Big mean, baby formula, baby, baby. Yeah, we can't get you any baby formula. Ha. Well, we're shipping it out to the border, but no baby formula. It's like yeah, so I mean, this whole life a man is is so Toto, but don't ask Neely fuller always say don't be confused. They're confused. They understand mask or bad for you. They understand what mRNA was.

They understand what gain of function is. They understand everything. They understand it all. But at the end of the day is to get that number down is going to be 10% left and then they gonna do Timber 90% of that 10%. And that's how that's how it rolls. And that's continuous improvement from their standpoint. And one more thing there was I can't remember the

name of it. I can't go back and watch it again. But it was a science fiction science fiction movie where the one of the guys were born by natural birth in a town where every baby was planned. And he wanted to go to outer space. So thing was like Gallica Galactica so my dad aka Gattaca dacite that's where we're headed. That's that's the black and white movie. Now it's

not black and white. It's in color. But he has his parents somehow concede him naturally in a time where all the children were planned birth or oh, you know what you're right. It wasn't black and white but the whole world look kind of black and white. This is where Yeah, color gradient checking in with their their their tattoo or whatever their special Can I scan the code on their on their palm as they're walking? Is that Is that the one room? I think? Yeah, that's

the one. That's the one to put that in there. He had to fake it somehow that you're saying, but I'm just saying that's where we're headed. And that's where it Mr. Musk comes in at that. Oh, were you born with inferior genes? Here put this chip in your brain? Yeah, we can get you up to speed will equalize you. Yeah, we're normalize you will bring you up to the baseline baseline of the genetically by this house. This is one of these shows where Tina will say, you know, say how was

Moses? It was great show blew my mind. So what was it about? It's always a good question. We always play the same game. I used to just say, Well, you gotta listen to it. Now. I try. I try. Because it's not very effective. What was it about? I can't explain it? I can't explain this one. I mean, you can't leave anything out of this episode. You can't just say well was about eugenics or, Hey, guess what? Hitler never left.

How would you explain this show? If someone if someone had to explain why it's important to listen to this episode. Less people versus more people. That's That's it. Bottom line. That core groups, the two core groups. Yes. Mo, thank you. Thank you, brother. Thank you. Thank you for keeping this hidden from me so that I had the base. I know he did. So I have the base of understanding when you start throwing it back to

the one drop rule and it makes sense. Are we going to conclude our series soon because pretty soon I'll just know all things in the universe or does the Learning never stop and never stop because they keep revealing more and more of their hand. And as I always say, pay attention to everything and the true reveal itself.

And as I always say, remember to support this work. This important work the value that you receive value for value is the only way it will continue mo fax.com mo fund me.com mo thanks again, man. I can't wait till the next episode. I see you then Adam. We'll see you next time. Bye. Bye, everybody. Girl I'm in love with you. The same the honeymoon pass the infatuation phase right in the thick of love at times we get

sick and love. It seems like we argue every day. I know misbehaved and you made your mistakes and we boast to God what is the baby gonna love sometimes hurts are still Jupiters and we'll make this thing work people maybe we should take a slow slow time say oh baby will crash and maybe maybe maybe we will survive maybe baby we don't know maybe we don't know which way to go maybe we should take it. Take it slow. Oh, it's time to get slow. Take it slow. Take it slow.

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