83: Sources and Methods

No facts with Adam curry for June 29 2022. This is episode number 83 summers here and so are we. I'm Adam curry coming to you from the heart of the Texas Hill Country time once again to spin that wheel of topics from here to Northern Virginia. Please once again say hello to my friend on the other end ladies and gentlemen, Mr. Moe facts. I know Adam, it Mo's Good to hear from you, brother. Man. Good. It's good to be back in the saddle. Yeah, and get things going.

Yeah, we got the summer in full effect right now. And, and I, I'm not quite sure what you brought for us today. But I am ready for just before we hit July, just to check everything good there in Northern Virginia. Very busy, but it's good. It's all good. We're very, very busy. So but I have another great show for the people. So I guess you're gonna spin that wheel and we'll get right on soon. All right, here we go. spinning the wheel of topics round around

and goes where it stops. Nobody knows. Well, of course, Moe actually does know what will the topic be for Moe facts without him curry episode number 83. This case is not legal. It is political. This case is not legal. It is political. Okay. All right. So I don't know anything yet. I have no idea. I know people are gonna think that they talk about whatever's in the headline. And the first thing I think of is January 6, J six the the primetime purge.

Not not it, it will take another guest because I left that clip like that just to see if you news cycle where he kind of came in when I'm gonna see if you can get it. Well, I mean, I could look at the clips or that would be not doing Oh, so. Roe v. Wade. Okay. No, no, I'll help you out. Andrew Gilliam. Oh, I saw Yes. I saw one article. I think just one that he was convicted of wire fraud. And you know, it's like, wow, I mean, this was the guy who was supposed to be the governor of

Florida, right. And it's just the Democratic Party has completely dropped him. No one comes to his defense is just over. Ask yourself how much different things would be if he won in DeSantis? Didn't? Yeah. I didn't think it'd be very different right now. So that's this. That's why this news story piqued my interest. And we can't forget the fact that this is Joe Biden's FBI. Whoa, wait a minute. Joe Biden's what does the FBI have to do with Gillum? That's who that's the charges. Oh,

charges. Oh, I didn't realize that. All right, grab one count of well, let's just give it to it. Clip one. Andrew Gilliam once rising Florida democratic star has been indicted alongside one of his longtime advisors for alleged fraud tied to his campaign against Governor Ron DeSantis. The 21 count indictment includes one count of lying to the FBI, one count of conspiracy to commit mail fraud and 19 counts

of wire fraud. In an earlier statement, NBC News Gillum acknowledged the case but denied any wrongdoing saying quote, every campaign I've run has been done with integrity. Make no mistake that this case is not legal. It is political. In just a few moments. Gillum in his advisor, Sharon Letterman Hicks are scheduled to make their first court appearance in Tallahassee. Okay. Well, that changes things a little bit.

How can this be political? If it's the Democrats who are in charge of the Department of Justice? Well, I mean, isn't that by default? Exactly. That if the Democrats the Democratic Party is in charge of justice, then it's all political? I'd say. Yeah, but this is their guy. This was Obama's guy. Yeah. Maybe possibly more ways than one but that's, that was that's where my thinking goes right away. It's like well, you know, this was Obama's guy. Maybe he needs to be shut up.

Well, we're gonna get into it. But I just found out this, these charges and to get 19 charges, one charge aligned to the FBI. In a world where you're saying Hunter Biden is getting away with murder. We politicians do this kind of thing all the time. We'll get more into the charges but I just found it very strange. Well, he will be charged but not really, because I'm just going to lay out something right here right now.

I've mentioned this before. These are headlines. Fox News Clairborne Inc, Democrat, South Carolina damn show showers family members with over 200k from campaign funds. Magazine water pays daughter another 24,000 and campaign cash wedding. Previous payment, we are purging the Democratic Party. There are some particular but all these candidates I can tell you, Lieutenant Governor Benjamin resigns for following

campaign funding finance. indictments. That's the Lieutenant Governor of New York. What all these people have in common? They're all Democrats. And they're all black. So yeah, you're right. I guess that's, that's fun. Mo I'm, I'm so used to not seeing color anymore that I didn't even realize it. I just find it strange that all these headlines are cropping up. It's kind of like, stay in line. Don't you think about leaving this plantation. Right.

Well, but wait a minute. So But Auntie Maxine. She's not leaving the plantation. She is she doing something wrong? Is she not following orders? They understand a grant they've lost a grassroots. Right? We're just gonna get it this surface level of it. You didn't get the expected response with Roe v. Wade from quote unquote, the blast? No, in fact, quite the opposite. I'd say. You understand the Democrats still need the vote. These Democrats in these

districts still need that vote. The black vote right? And they're torn out. This is my just my perspective and political calculus. So they're looking at the grassroots. They're like, Well, I'm damned if I do. I'm damned if I don't. Because if my grassroot people don't turn out for me. Yeah, we're gonna get right. Right, right. So you can see them easily. But we're making a pivot.

So I wonder if if Gillum somehow was was some kind of threat to the, to the Democrats or to Obama or whoever else is pulling the strings? Or could that could be one thing, or was he just using example. To say, hey black on black on black, black lynching, man, that's pretty bad. Well, we'll get more into that. Because what since you brought it up? You see, they're bringing in a new class of Democrat candidates. The guy with the noose around his neck.

Yeah, literally lynching. Yeah. What's his name? He's from Kentucky. You caught me flat footed. Okay. I'll look it up. But I'm him. And then you have a guy I think got a baton rouge. He was in his his campaign as smoking weed. So even the Democrats know we have to go with a more black male, Charles Blake St. Charles Charles Booker. That's it. Yeah, so I think the Democrats are pivoting you know, all if you can do an agent, age ism as well, for a few of these people.

It's like, it's time for them to go. And you start bringing in new people. And new, a new class. But I think this if I had to say it, this was a warning. This was a this was a shout out and I'm gonna lay out my case. So I guess we can get into a lot of people may say who is and yes, we're intimate, intimately familiar with him in his demise. But this is a whole new level. Alright, let's check it out.

And I sincerely believe that what is going to deliver us to victory in November is the fact that they are everyday hard working people in this state will dilute the man did he get Joe Biden's mic guy because that's all talking from inside a bucket that they deserve a voice and our government to and we're going to give it to them

muscle a believer and science. We're going to have a government approval work to ensure that the air that we breathe is clean that the water that we drink is non contaminated, in addition to being the mayor of Tallahassee, Florida, the capital city of our nation's third largest state. I'm also a father and along with my wife, RJ we are raising two year old twins Jackson and Caroline. You cannot sit back and complain and moan and groan. You gotta get

involved in the political process. You got to work with Andrew to try Let's form that state. Okay, so this was from the Washington Post it put this together. No, well, okay. So this just lets you know that they were there is basically a campaign ad. Yeah. This is when he was running in Florida. So in Bernie support that was pretty big. I'll let you beat me to the punch. Sorry. Yeah. No. Because it's like, yeah. So was this kind of like he was he a Bernie

guy? No. Because he was green New Deal he made. Of course, he was progressive. But yeah, I just find it I find it interesting because this guy was, in some ways better than Obama. Well, he was he was groomed from early on when you look at his Wikipedia page, to be the governor and a presidential candidate. Yeah, should actually look that up. I mean, talking about but yeah, he had some bags. He had some bad skeletons in the

closet, though. I mean, oh, we're gonna get to that, but no different than other candidates have had. But that No, except Obama, they somehow they really did kill people. Let's well shut up. I'm gonna kill you. This is true. So while you look up his wiki and get to the parts who was who was Andrew Gillum 46% of the people in Florida today said that they cannot make ends meet at the end of the month. They're working many of them harder than ever, and can't pull down a wage where they can

take care of themselves in their families, right. I know what it was like to watch my mother and my father trade between which bills they could pay before something got cut off, praying to God without a way forward that next week, something might show up, that will allow them to pay enough on the lights so that they wouldn't get cut off. That experience informs my politics. I'm fighting for things like when Congress has this slush fund for sexual harassment settlements. I blow the whistle

on that stuff. So I'm not always the most popular guy in DC. But I did have support from from someone in Washington. If you walk down Pennsylvania Avenue, he lives in the White House with the pillars in front of you. On behalf of all of you and on behalf of all of the people of the state of Florida. We accept this nomination and look forward to November 6, when I'm elected the next Governor of the great state of Florida. God bless you. That's been good, huh? Huh. I heard you ringabel.

Yeah, I heard I had a help from someone in the White House from Obama. That's why I was ringing it. That was I know that was DeSantis talking. Oh, crap. I could he was saying he used that as a he used that as a right as a linking him to Trump. Yes, of course. Of course not. He but Washington Post, right, Tim to Trump. And if he went Florida, he's definitely 2020 for his candidate. This is a big deal. This is why I'm telling you.

And again, this went completely under the radar not and that may have been different from the sources you're reading, but in general, like no agenda level, the only it only that, which means m five M that's what we tried. And it really only bubbled up once there was one, one article one headline and maybe Roe v. Wade happened right after it. I'm sure it was very close. And when I saw it, I'm like, Oh, this is going under

the radar. There's a couple of things that are happening. And it's all being covered up or at least not covered because of the outrage of Roe v. Wade. Kind of like COVID Yes. COVID space. Yeah. We know the COVID face. Yes, exactly. Exactly. Reason why I saw this guy's man Teflon. Because even what happened we'll get later you're seeing those skeleton T's you refer to right? He had the I mean, that was a feature. Just to foreshadow a little bit to to the party that you know, we'll

be voting for him. Yeah. And so always, I was why now, why? Why does DOJ Yeah. Where's where's the protection? Because like you said, you saw how the media ran interference. And, you know, three letter agencies ran interference for Obama. Yeah. Oh, yeah. He's, he was crowned to be the next Obama. Um, but actually says he could carry Florida to the way the way I saw it was because, you know, of course, he had this big hotel room scandal that completely ruined all of

his chances. That's the that's the type of political hit job you would expect. And so maybe it was Republicans but even that could have come from inside. I don't know, it could have worked. And I'm here to tell you guys All goes right now. So I'm so sorry. You in that time travel, I can't help it. I know, I know. Oh, well we need to do now is look at him because Obama even came out and stopped for him big time in Florida. And in that election against the Santa Fe. So let's get into number five

from justice and opportunity hope spreads. Amen starts rippling it enters into each of us. Can you stocks? Of course, I need your audio ears, okay to listen to how and I don't normally do this. But listen to how they let Obama talk. And then it had this dead space. So his words could be resonate like that. Well, there's what I it's interesting. You say that I heard a noise gate kick in immediately. I'm like, oh, shouldn't is that my noise gate? Do I have a noise gate on this

thing? I was I was blaming myself. So yes, that was noise gated. What the fact that this was done post that may MSNBC put those gaps in there? It may have been okay. So I would love to get the source. And I'm sure it's available somewhere. I don't know. I'll listen to the source. It's like 53 minutes. Okay. And the source, there was no gap there that was put in there. Not pregnant like that is?

Well, they did a shitty job because you should at least have taken a sample of the crowd or something that you can insert there instead of just dead sight. I mean, they killed it. It's zero dB. It sounds unnatural. That's what piqued my interest. Yeah. So I just want to let let people know the spells. We got to get back on that kid. Yeah, this is how the spills work with the mainstream media. And I just want to

Yeah, and we've seen this with back in the day. This is one of the famous example there was a heckler Obama had a heckler. This is where he was like, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, hey, hey, hey, you know, but that way, that was the it went on for like 17 minutes. But on the news, President Obama, you know, dealt with a heckler today, where he really lost against that heckler, you know, so the media has covered up for Obama in many ways, but this is a new one. I

agree. This is it. This is a new little trick they're doing. And the words that like Kevin, Sam use, you can't make this issue up. Number five, use the backside of the clip. Okay, I'll start it over at the beginning. From justice, an opportunity that hope spreads, it starts rippling. It enters into each of us. We get a sense of what is possible. And we remind ourselves of those better angels of our nature. See, it's up to you. Let's make history happen right here.

So positive is jarring. And it was the Obama show in Miami today. No Democrat does it quite like the 44th president. He was stumping for Bill Nelson and Andrew Gilliam, who's now ahead of his Republican opponent in the race for governor by almost three points in the polling average. But if you were watching that rally this afternoon, you probably noticed the regular interruptions by protesters. Instead of using that classic Trump rhetoric. I'd like to punch him in the face.

Here's how Obama handled it. This is what I look forward to is having a few hecklers to get me back in the mood. Enjoy, you always gotta have a few. In order to know that you're on the campaign trail. It tells you something interesting. Even the folks who are in charge are still mad because they're getting ginned up to be mad. That's, that's the man's that's the mindset. So you want somebody who's actually going to work for working people? Andrew Gillum somebody

Oh, isn't that interesting? Did they cover up the heckler there as well? I mean, they certainly didn't. He brought the heckler game thing and you are quiet about it. That's I liked I liked that about you more. You're able to not not spoil a good one. Oh, I think Obama brought the heck William. Oh, shoot man Dvorak and I have have have thought about this as well. It makes total ready you get me? Going? Yeah. Excellent. Excellent observation. Too funny. I guess we'll get number six.

First of all, I watched all of ofers events. Yesterday, I watched all the Oprah has become Obama and Obama has become Oprah. But they are really undeterred by Trump's negative. They are embodying Michelle Obama's and they go low, we go high. But they the difference between 16 and 18 seems to be they want that to translate to big victories. Well, Oprah yesterday, just really blew my mind and how she was so inspirational. And she was urging everyone to be part

of something that's bigger than themselves. It's bigger than their day to day sacrifice, sacrifice that's about our ancestors sacrifice about their ancestors sacrifice. And that's something you just never see in Donald Trump's rhetoric. It's not ever about serving or it's always about him. Exactly. So I think that's why it's refreshing to hear a message that's about what you can do for other people what you can do for your country and make yourself better than Process Two.

The other thing that's remarkable about Obama seeing sort of each party's best surrogates on the stump is, if you've won twice, like Obama has. You're really good at this. And you are made better by the hecklers. I mean, I watched his speech and his whole vibe changed after he got home. He's you want to fight? I gotta. I gotta fight. I've still got fighting me. Yeah, I think you're right. Mo. You nailed it. Rent a heckler. It's the glass of water. Yeah. You know, I'm a firm believer

that beer gate was staged. Oh, yeah. firm believer that. Because he just happened to be Henry Louis Gates. All people of all of all people. But yeah, so you heard Obama was in rare form coming out for his guy. Give him Yeah. And, and I can just imagine it's like one of those 911 questions like when 911 ever happened? What if this vote goes away? Or Florida? Do you think that Gillum actually could have won Florida?

Do you think he had that shot? I mean, it was pretty close. If I recall, during the leader with the machines, yeah. But that we'll get to that maybe a little later. All right. It wasn't definitely a test run going on. But I digress. But let's go and get into number seven. He would always talk about how to be a game night player. Yeah, he the way he waits for the lights to go on for him to really step into his game. And in this case, it was the

hecklers and such. He said so dissonant his his tone, his energy versus what we're seeing from the current president, which he's President Trump is all about grievance and anger. And Trump in Obama is much more about hope and trying to uplift the people he's talking to. Now the Senate Democrats would be this not running again. Oprah Winfrey, at least not now is not

a candidate. They don't seem to have a current political figure who perhaps who could run for office run for president a couple of years who possesses that type of Christian charisma and energy that we just saw there. He you laughed out loud during everything. I could talk about that? Well, no, I just it again, I haven't. It's normally aberration from what we're seeing from this president. But it's also not representative of what we're seeing on the stump

from Democrats. It's a really different tone. I mean, you know, Avinash, he's not giving that speech. He's saying not only will I lock up Trump, I'll bring my own handcuffs, right. So we are seeing on the left, you know, Eric Holder, when they go low, we'll kick them Hillary, we can't be civil. There is an energy on the left for we're sick of this unity crap. We're sick of the hope and change. We want blood. But the brightest stars in the cycle are Gillum, who I think

has embodied a lot of Obama's Beto and Stacey Abrams. So I don't I wouldn't put Abinadi in the front runner category. It's amazing how my head is in the middle of all this stuff and how quickly you forget. Right? I mean, and of course it comes rushing back, just hearing these clips. But if he was the golden child, totally. He was the guy. And you can hear oh, he brings the positivity but Abinadi so you mentioned Avanade. Yes, it was the same

thing brought him up. Let's do some parallels here. Because you said something about Obama. I was gonna put it in the show. There may be something more for last tapes. But Larry Sinclair, yes. That would be the equivalent to stormy Daniels. Yeah, so yes, you're right. Right, even with having weird lawyers. See that lawyer for Larry Sinclair was a piece of work. He actually wore a kilt. Oh, my goodness. It's been so long ago. Yeah, you're right. You're right.

So how they amplified? Stormy Daniels? Yeah, because most people don't even know what I'm talking about when I say Larry Sinclair, unless you're in deep, yes. Well, I'm going to put Larry Sinclair in the show notes for everybody. Okay, so check him out. He made some explosive claims about drugs. And he had, he had, he had literal receipts. And this makes me wonder, well, we'll get there. So you heard they were all in for Gillum. The whole Democratic Party was in

their in their in their form. What happened? Now, that's what we need to figure out. But well, what happened is Joe Biden happened. I'd say that, you know, that would be the number one thing. But and we say this because I can't I don't want to make sure I'm not being double minded, it may be the best word. This is our turn. Obama. Three p three P this one this Joe Biden a term? Yes. So this is universal Obama's DOJ. Right? That this guy. Okay.

All right. I don't know if it's still goggles or not. But so what I'm feeling now is Obama has someone in mind, and we've got to clear everybody out of the way who might interrupt that flow. Exactly. Big Mike for president, everybody could beat me maybe. Because that would give him four and five. And now what now? We're talking FDR territory. Yeah. Or, or his papa Poppy, who had a nice little run there as well. Sure did. I think those flags are still have flags for him.

Um, let's see. So this is kind of seeped out during that election. And I think it's in 2018 when they have their governorates down there. So let's go ahead and get into this revelation about Gillum. Number eight, on the FBI investigation, I and nor is the City of Tallahassee under FBI investigation, we have been completely cooperative in their process. We've made every public record that we have

available to the public on a searchable website. And what we've said is that if anyone has done anything illegal, or untoward that they ought to be held fully accountable for it. Contrast that to how DeSantis and Trump have dealt with the FBI, they've undermined them even going so far as to suggest a deep state. Now, my point is, is that I've served for 15 years not by doing well, but by doing right, I do have friends that have been a member of the lobby court and they were friends

before they were ever members of the lobby court. But that in no way such as it should suggest that I would do anything illegal or inappropriate. My integrity is intact and is always been in tech and I get the criticisms from my opponents. But I want people to measure me and value me by what I've done a new poll out just this afternoon from Public Policy Polling shows Gillum has a four point lead over Republican Ron DeSantis. I remember it. I remember it now. Four

point lead points. Yeah. Now we got no great add on occur, because we know the posters. Definitely had a tilt tune. Yeah. But he was under investigation doing the race. We're not what he was. Not say under investigation, but it was some loose threads hanging out there. And if you go to his Wikipedia page, and this is not dude, getting down on Gillum. This is to say he's had protection before why now? Why get thrown up under the bus like that when we only had to have

that prosecute that case? Was he? Was he making any noise? Was there heat on him about maybe running for 2024? Was there anything that you picked up? Ah, let's listen to number nine and then we can get maybe the answer your question. You know, I remember in 2018 when we had the recount, and we were down there in Broward County, and every single vote

truck that was coming in seals were broken on the back. It really was a primer for what they did in 2020 in 2018 in Florida with the gubernatorial election, and early on in 2017. Now it's late 2017 early 28 When I reported that Andrew Gilliam was having gay, drug fueled orgies, I reported that he was involved with these lobbyists when he was mayor of

Tallahassee, getting them sweetheart deals. And when you look at the indictment that came out yesterday, 19 counts of wire fraud, and then lying to the FBI, some of the key players involved in that, that are that remain unnamed. But you can tell by the transactions and the monies that went through are the same exact people I was talking about. And they said, Jake, you can't talk about his sexuality. It doesn't matter. And I said, No, it's not about his sexuality. It's about being

compromised. Because if you got elected governor, and he was doing this kind of stuff that he was doing in his private life now, three years later, when we expose them in the hotel room, passed out covered vomit, after the orgy. What what would have happened in our state? Alex, what would have happened in Florida? What kind of crooked developer what kind of crooked globalist what kind of crooked Soros scheme was going to be pushed through because they had the goods on him?

Yeah, it was pretty pretty much compromised. So this is Jacob Engels. And he's the one that he's just for full transparency. He is a conservative leaning reporter. But he also is gay. So you have to kind of throw that out the window. Right? He was saying like that the the binary of the heterosexual gets homosexual, they're both gay. So they know that that's the thing. He didn't expose him because he's gay. I'm

sure he exposed him for political gain. Sure. But he makes some claims that 2018 in Florida was a test run for what happened in 2020. With elections? Could that be that's why I wanted to play that clip. Could that be the loose thread that give them presents? Possibly. This is all I know, you're going somewhere with this. So I'm a little lost right now. I've got I mean, there's 20 Different me where you're at, or me because I've laid out a lot here. So I'm still

at, okay, at the bases with this third term Obama agree. And he's looking for a fourth and he had a it's the same thing. He has someone in mind, and it certainly isn't Andrew Gillum. Right, because the things like like the things that he's been identified as, quote, unquote, negatives, him coming in or saying Being out as a, quote, unquote, gay man, that's a positive to his party was that but that wasn't known was it? It was on the DL. He has a he has a wife and kids.

Right? He does have a wife and kids and that that's one of the things that could be a negative, but just for his wife, certainly. Well, we'll get Oh, boy. All right. We'll get there. Now what is this day, I'm trying to I'm trying to wrap my head around. This department of justice hasn't done anything to any politician. Now, all of a sudden, you get the guy I think they got him on. They was investigating one time but for Hamilton tickets. He's had a sketchy past. I'm not gonna say

that whatever. It's like you have a corrosion and misuse investigation station and wiki. There's some smoke there. But but not that can't be covered up by a party that looks at you. As a Oh, no, of course the party could be way more contender. Yeah, the party could do all kinds of stuff for him. Of course. This looks like an inside job. Yes. Or, or is it that the FBI is fragmented? And this is a rogue Red Seal?

I don't see much evidence of that. I mean, you see how they're embarrassing these Trump people and arresting him at airports throwing him and leg irons and shit. I mean, so it's a pretty radical FBI, but I don't see him doing much good for the reds. The way I see this going down is Hey, Andrew, if it's blue helping blue is like hey, Andrew, you might stopping by the office. We need to talk to you for a little bit, you know, come in the back door. Mr. Gillam

is not headlines. It's not hitting this, this is not the way it goes. So we gotta put 2020 out there, the walking is the wind down election. He may have some inside knowledge to that. Um, and maybe that's why they, you know, sought to clean him up. But let's get into part two of Jacob Engels. I think Alex they saw him as a future political commodity, but they saw him as a little bit of a free spirit. So I think what happened there, he hires the mail. score. A couple of other

people are in the room. And they're doing these really extreme things. And remember in the police report, they didn't release the police body cam footage. But in the police report when the police entered the room, he was so incoherent he could barely stand he was falling over. He couldn't speak he couldn't even give a statement. So I think something something is afoot there where maybe he went off the leash a little bit and they had they may have forced drugged him too. I mean, he may be the

victim. I'm I'm not sure. I mean, this, this looks really bad. Yeah, and that's that's a potential thing too. Because just seeing that the third point is this is how they get back to defibrillator. Exactly. This is how they compromise people. Talk about the defibrillator professional know what that is, that's the paddles they use or restart your heart. Who the hell has that?

Well, interestingly enough, the male escort that was with Gillum happened to be a emergency room nurse who brought his whole kit with him. So very powerful drugs that are not on the street. So they were loose to me speculatively, like they were really good right to drug him out of his mind to compromise him. And in case that happened, they had a defibrillator there, this, who should be indicted, my view is the people that brought defibrillators and all these drugs.

Well, and let's get even more into this. Why hasn't the body cam footage been released? Where we would see the faces of the other men in the room? We know there was the male prostitute but we don't know the other two individuals in the room. Why is that? Why can't that footage be released? It's very dark down this rabbit hole Mo. Okay, new perspective. I didn't know any of this. This is good. I like it. Okay, so we could have spy versus spy. So maybe this was a hit job by the

reds. Or someone to compromise him? Or nasty? Or or or or if we look yes, it is. If you look at you know how I Obama was run. I'm pretty convinced he was compromised from the get go and they've always controlled him with that. Correct. But for people in that room who was the other two people in the room? Because I want to what are accounted for is Gillum. Where's my where's my 60 Minutes interview with any of these people? Where was Hunter Biden that night? No.

Boy, you're a drunk party. Well, Hunter is not a party at all. Okay, now I'm just saying like, who was the body cam? Here's the hunter right now. I'm on black man, you idiot area. Yeah. So let's see here. We got a drug food fuel party. For people body cam footage gets totally Epstein. And um, we don't know who else is in that room. If I tell you this, this is a hell of a story. This is the one I want to talk about. Because it's got so many moving

pieces to it. So I love it. Let's go back. Let's go back to the CBS Miami report of this event that happened in that room that night. What's falling breaking news now out of Miami Beach where former gubernatorial candidate Andrew Gillum was involved in an incident possibly involving crystal meth in Miami Beach overnight. According to Miami Beach incident report, he was inside of a hotel room at a building on 1100 West Avenue where a man was treated for a

possible drug overdose. The man was transported to the hospital. Another man was able to tell police what happened but when officers went to speak to Mr. Gillam. They say he was unable to communicate because he was so inebriated. Officers report finding three small clear plastic baggies containing suspected crystal meth on the bed on the floor of the hotel room. Police Report, give them left the hotel room and returned

home without incident. There have been no arrests and Gillum just released a statement it reads in part, I was in Miami last night for a wedding celebration. When first responders were called to assist one of my friends all that had too much to drink. I want to be clear that I have never used methamphetamines. I apologize to the people of Florida for the

distraction This has caused our movement. He went on to say he is going to spend the next few weeks with his family and appreciates the privacy at this time. poor sucker. Alex may have a point he may be the victim. Yeah. When I heard that, I was like, Okay, I didn't really consider that. But they say the cops talk to a third person. Yeah, who was that third person? And for the life of me, I can never find out who the people in this room

like I'd like I like your Hunter Biden theory. I think Hunter Biden and Malia Obama I mean, it's obvious. They're the drug no party like a party. That's right. But me, of course is crystal meth. So that's not hunters thing. No, I think he everything his thing. I think he's okay with that. But what we're laughing about this, but then he just gets the

walk away. I mean, we found meth on the bed. And Andrew Gillum gets the walk away with now he's being re reeled in arraigned in our some maybe bookkeeping. I'll be honest with you, I don't even know exactly what i Yeah, wire fraud charges, but that can be all kinds of stuff. So I'm not even sure exactly what he did. So what happened was I, here's here's how it read my impression, okay, because I did

mention the story and didn't dive into it. The impression I got was he had tried to raise funds from somebody under false pretense, and that was that can be considered wire fraud. Yeah, that we're basically have like a shell company, that we're raising money and then his partner, which we won't get to later. We're gonna get, we're gonna get to the partner, but this is the killer right now. She was wiring the money to him from the fund. And that's why you get the wire? Yeah, of

course. Yes, of course. And what the what was the most interesting charge to me, was lying to the FBI. It's like, they don't have to put that on there. This is Joe Biden slash Obama's FBI. Right. Why to lie into the air? Because that's like, that's the automatic guilty when they hit you with that? Yeah. Because they pretty much had Have you did the right when they thought that charge on you. You can beat all the rest of them. But that lie to the FBI. Now it gets you every

chance. They won't. We've seen get people over and over and over again. Yeah. So but he gets to walk away from a meth party. But you get brought in for moving money around? Yeah. Which is very common in politics. Yeah. And that could have been the staying or I mean, there's all kinds of that seems like a much more sophisticated way of just taking a guy down. And going back. Let's go back to what I mentioned before, the headlines. Clyburn, showers, family members with over 200k in

campaign funds, right. Maxine Maxine water pays daughter another 24k in campaign K. Now they could have easily added Pelosi, which she's done with her husband and her son, certainly in Ukraine, but she's missing a key feature. It's amazing how they I mean, her husband is allegedly driving around drunk. Yeah, and this is like, oh, no, no charges. No, but we starting to see these headlines that all this like that's what starts the rabbit hole.

And I will say that is an albatross around. Nancy Pelosi, his neck this there are people not letting this go? No, but he still did it because I say so. And then the cops he's dropped the charges. i Oh, no. Yeah. And it's expected. That's the crazy thing about this expected for it to be done that way. It's like, oh, yeah, he'd be out. As everyone said, it is not going to be a problem. No mug shot, no nothing. And so I'm asking once again, why is Gillum being treated the

way he was treated? So let's get more into the details of that night with number 12. We're getting our first look at evidence from the overdose emergency involving former gubernatorial candidate Andrew Gilliam and we're talking about a very messy hotel room with drugs scattered everywhere. Local 10 News reporter Lauren Livingston is live on South Beach to show us learn.

So Police tell us back on March 13, Andrew Gillum was so inebriated when they got here to the Mondrian, South Beach Hotel that he could not even speak with those officers who responded here. And so now we're seeing and hearing some of what those first responders saw and heard when they made it here to the hotel that night. It's around 1am March 13. Miami Beach police make their way into the Mondrian South Beach Hotel and up to the 11th floor. The

first knock goes on answered seconds later. That's when things literally get blurry. For privacy reasons. The audio also goes silent. Police encountered me and barely dressed if I stop. Yeah, the camera goes blurry. Yes. And the audio goes silent. I just want to point that out to people. It's amazing how that can I just check No, it's a glitch glitch. For privacy reasons. Oh, it was on answered seconds later. That's when things literally get blurry. For privacy reasons. The

audio also goes silent. police encounter a man barely dressed if at all. You can make out what appears to be Miami Beach Fire Rescue medics moving around the room. At one point police direct what appears to be a nude man to the bathroom. He's questioned and later takes a seat. Yeah. For a didn't that wasn't a glitch. For privacy reasons, privacy reasons, who are we hiding? You better have an answer for that Mo. I'm telling me crazy.

I don't but I'm just saying like they tells you who could be in that room to say, hey, we need that camera off and we need that. Tell the cops. Yeah. Somebody who had the power to tell the cops. Hey, we need that camera cut off and we need that microphone turned down. And it just look over two bags of crystal meth on the floor. Alright, and we're gonna let everybody go home. Huh? Yeah, I'm kind of kicking myself that I never even really thought this deeply about it at the time.

Which is kind of cool. Well, okay. It's only a few people. Well, that was also during the Obama era. It was it was, was it not? No, no, this was Trump. This is Trump Trump era. So Trump was DOJ Trump. That's what I'm saying. Trump's DOJ Trump, right. No charges. All of a sudden charges. Charges. Well, you've just been protected before and where they protect and Gillum obviously not because he was laid out nude in his own vomit. But we're protecting the other two people in the room. Yeah,

that's when it goes quiet. Yeah. I want to know. Hopefully somebody can help us out. Let's get the second part. We need to know the call came in about a suspected drug overdose. Andrew Gillum husband, father and rising star in the Democratic Party. The first black nominee of a major party when he ran for Florida governor was one of three men found inside that hotel room. Police say although my heels came back to the room where he found Gillum and Travis Dyson under the influence of an

unknown substance. Gillum, who'd reportedly been found vomiting in the bathroom was later allowed to leave the hotel to go home. Police also released these photos showing the mess left behind stained pillowcases and sheets, pills and bottles of pills spilled in various places. Police also removed what they suspected to be three small bags of crystal meth. Police say those suspected drugs were eventually impounded. No criminal charges were ever filed and Gilliam claimed he was here

in South Florida for a wedding. He has since apologized and says he never has used methamphetamines. But he did say that after that unsuccessful bid for governor he did fall into depression started abusing alcohol and he has since entered into rehab. We reached out to all three of the men who were involved in this incident that night. have not yet heard back. We're live here in Miami Beach there Livingston, local 10 News.

Here what I hear in that report is what I find a little odd is tons of pills, not mentioned what it is just thrown about opens like if you're doing crystal meth, you're doing crystal meth. I don't think you're also popping pills and you're certainly not just leaving to stop. I don't know. I mean, it sounds like they set up a nice little scene for the cameras is what it sounds like.

And at the end of Jacob Engels clip Alex over spoke him where he said they had droves you can't even get on the street, right? Which is maybe because that came from the nurse. Right? But now I'm gonna tell you something culturally, and then we're gonna go down to our sub rabbit hole just for a minute here. Um, when he said crystal meth the first thing and this is this may be an ignorant take, but just this is a reflex kind of thing. I was like black people don't smoke crystal meth.

Now they do. But that's just the first thing I was like, Is that more poor white weird drug of choice? Are we poor white people thing? That's like, yeah, that's like the equivalent to crack. You know, like, that's just showing me Of course, we were speaking in general general generality, of course, you know, but that was kind of that's what also stuck out to me like he's partying with math. Well, I don't know. Is it a gay thing math. 14.

In the gay male world, we've seen this really upfront. I've seen people get become homeless. I've seen and it's sort of fused The dopamine hit is fused with another dopamine hit, which often forgetting that is the first time they have sex or the first time they, they realized who they are. And a lot of that is sexual. So you add the sexual dopamine hit to this

intensification of hit. And the addiction is extraordinarily powerful and not very few people come back and after they've come back, I mean, I have friends who've also come back, it takes them years to have a sexual experience, find meaningful or pleasurable. It's amazing what this does to people. I'm, I'm genuinely shocked by it, how it is destroying it. The way people describe it is it doesn't just take them It takes their soul somehow, they don't become the people they become someone else.

And I've never seen no one, you know, I would say that. Yes, I would say that in speaking with people after I spoke with Eric Barrera, I was really my story was really going to be at first going to be just about this enormous supply that they were the capacity of production and

all that. And then he told me that's when I began to say, well, the capacity production has allowed Matt to be all over the country than these symptoms logically must be in some degree all over the country as well and so began to tie in. So yes, gay sex and math is the thing is the thing. And this is the who was speaking was that Sam Quiznos Quinn nos, I think how you pronounce it, and he wrote the book, the least of us true tales of America and, and hope in the time of fitting all

the meth. Fentanyl gets all the headlines. Yeah. But this industrial quality man, they're pumping out of Mexico, in pharmaceutical grade labs. Is Yeah, I didn't have the clip. Just you know, just to keep the show, you know, and a decent length. But it's a report of the Superman. Super myth. Nice. is so clean that the I'm not speaking completely from a knowledge standpoint, but this is how the reports are related.

Yes, Mexican super meth, I see it right here is that the impurities is what caused mass smokers to stop smoking. Because they will get so harsh. The fact that this meth is so clean, keeps everybody going. It keeps you smoking. And that's when you see these people, one deteriorate super fast to these zombie light things on and I'm what I'm saying things. They're no longer you heard the guys that steals your soul. So just think about what Superman does. And you

smoke in high quantities. And it's so cheap now. Because it's coming out of Mexico. Right? So people just keep an eye on that. Superman. Yeah, send us some samples. Please know. I've kept some things in my day, man, but meth is not one of them. And just as another quick aside, Adderall is nothing but legal maths. True. It's true. This be leaning to the hand in hand with promiscuous. The I said that wrong. promiscuity that we're seeing with

Oh, man. Yes, you know, so I have actually tried Adderall just to see what the kids were doing. And I was like, No, I was up for a full 24 hours. It's like, What is this crap? This is nuts. It's not fun. It's not good. Now I can understand where if you use it, you micro dose or whatever. I can see how someone could totally get into it. But yeah, this is just another one to chalk. I mean, Adderall at the college level. It I mean, it's like Bitcoin. You know, people are settling it trading

it doing all kinds of stuff. Hey, you got a prescription? Yeah, I need some I'll sell it to you. I sell to you. I mean, it's crazy how prevalent that is. Right. And is that a driver for my beat? I hadn't, you know, it's I've always focused on SSRIs as being a big problem. Let's just add this to it. For sure. Yeah. Because as you see, the two tie ins have two dopamine hits between sex. And I know it's not exclusive to gay men. So you tie in math and sex in general? Yeah. And Adderall is

entered at such an early age. Yeah. Could that be you know, some of what's going on here, but I just want to lay it out. I'm sure it's not helping. Or it is it is helping depending on how you look at it. Once I realized I was like, okay, meth meth. I've heard that before. Oh, right. Yes, exactly. injection of meth. Hi, everybody. Once again, we are live at the federal courthouse. This is Wendy birch. We apologize for any audio difficulties that we had earlier, but we want to bring

you the very latest that in the federal trial. gets Ed buck, the former prominent democratic contributor. He has now been found guilty of all nine federal charges. That verdict coming down just about 30 minutes ago. Now, the charges are extensive. There are at least two counts of providing methamphetamine to a victim that resulted in death for additional counts of providing methamphetamine, one count of using his West Los Angeles Department as a drug use layer and two counts of paying

for interstate travel for the purpose of prostitution. All of these are significant charges. He has been found guilty and all of them, there are maximum sentencing, it is likely that 66 year old Ed Buck will spend the rest of his life in a federal

prison. Now, this case came to light a few years back when there were a number of men, mostly black men that were overdosing in the presence of Ed buck and two of those young men died in his apartment in West Hollywood, one of them being 26 year old Jim Elmore, the other one that being 55 year old Timothy Dean. Yeah, Ed buck, big Democrat Party donor, they finally got him. But did you hear anything about that? They were finally getting him.

Well, this, this was much more of a story than Gillum for sure. The reason I said we knew they had arrested him being found guilty. Yeah, that was just a couple of weeks ago, I think. No, this comes from July 27. No, 2021? No, I think his his, his sentencing was just a few weeks ago, I believe. Oh, maybe. He was convicted of nine federal charges in 2021 on April 14 2022. So a couple months ago, Buck was sentenced to 30 years in prison. You didn't I mean, I

knew what happened. And I remember again, it was all but there was a lot going on. It was not M five M coverage. It definitely warranted it because this was a big ass donor. Everyone's in pictures with him. What he did was despicable and 30 years is not you know, he'll die in prison, basically. But he's a serial killer. Yes, of course he is. Yes. No, just let him know that that goes to show I weaved all this together to show you when they want to come up with story. They

can cover up and cover it up. Yeah. Even if you're killing black gay men. Who is right up there. I mean, like, I mean, being black and gay. I mean, that's pretty high on the totem pole. Yeah, I mean, you were the one that passed pesky man part. If it was Rue Paul or something like that, and they might be a bigger story. No, no. No, Ed bucks the money man. He was the money man. He makes things happen. And that goes to show you that they covered it up. And if they wanted to cover it forgive them.

They did. Hey. I'm with you. You've got me convinced. They covered up and and for reasons yet unknown. So and what is this? Like? I said, What is this thing? What Ed? But what is this? Is this like a thing with meth and gay sex for the Democratic Party? I mean, like, we're just not specifically remember drugs. We act like we don't have a president who? I know. Bringing up Hunter, but I have to juxtapose him. Yes. To everything. To everything.

Yeah, got that. Right. Yeah, that right there. No, it proves it. Just like that story. We saw everything that DOJ is not going after. I mean, there's some investigation supposedly. Yeah, I mean, the IRS may be investigating him supposedly, you know, then there's some things going on. But yeah, in general is completely covered up and it's to the degree where the emperor has no clothes. Literally, the emperor has no clothes. We don't see that with Emperor's looks great.

In a bookstore, he was like one of the first cases Oh, pre Hunter. Yeah, of saying, Hey, if you want to write to the media, we're not covering the gallery. And let's just go ahead and get to 16. During the two weeks of testimony, there were more than eight men that spoke in this trial, and at times, the testimony was harsh and difficult for even the jurors to hear. So much of it involves graphic testimony of Edie bucks alleged sexual fetishes, and his desire, said the prosecution to

inject methamphetamine into his victims against their will. Now two of those victims, of course could not testify and that was more indeed most of them died in that apartment more dying exactly four months ago today. His family now is speaking to the press. We have a live camera just steps away from me. Let's listen in. I'll just add this thing to show you that he's telling the truth.

We have a council member behind you at City Hall named Paul curettes, who told a group of people that all of ebooks victims were nothing but disadvantaged black hustlers. And that is how a lot of the politicians looked at his victims, which is why they like Paul Kretz never returned his money never even tried to acknowledge this case, we won the Democratic Party, of which I'm a member of, because like Sammy said, it wasn't just the investigators and the sheriff's

department. It was the politician. It was the media worried about getting sued by AD bog, it was everybody. And so I think we all feel vindicated today. Like, you know, finally. Hmm. Not on the Democratic Party. Yes. We feel what we get boo. Yeah. And the reason why from their stance and not just judge people by their own standards, from the democratic standards, first of all, you have a black man being killed by a white man.

Okay. Yep. And that black man happens to be gay. Yep. Chan, that black man is being drugged against his will check for sexual purposes, and even to murder him. Check. Congratulations, you're here, you can no score here, you can now run for president. So now you see that it really doesn't matter. All those that

mean, they fall under black lives matter. They fall into pride, they fall under sexual victims, drug addicts, all these I mean, all of these different groups and, and, you know, agendas, and nobody wanted to take on their story all because why a book was the money man. Can't make it up. And a lot of heat. And I want to I keep bringing this back. Because for what she said today. We're hustlers. Yeah, that's a lot. That's pretty rude man. That mean, these are people too.

Right? These are gay black men. They're victims of sex crimes. The way she said that now, actually, I want to go back and play that again, where she, of course could not testify. And that was more indeed alleged sexual fetishes. And his to show you that he's telling the truth. We have a council member behind you at City Hall named Paul curettes, who told a group of people that all of Ed books, victims were nothing but

disadvantaged black hustlers. And that is how a lot of the politicians looked at his victims, which is why they like Paul curettes never returned his money. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. And that is, unfortunately, I think, spot on and on message for the Democratic Party, today's Democratic Party. And it's the same people. Yeah, at the same time are giving these men free meth pipes. So they can have a more pleasurable

experience. Yeah, crack pipes. Yeah, thank thank you for putting that out there that's straight and opening up the border. So this super myth could flow a flood over? It seems like they're creating a market for their fetish. How many they'll keep it 100 with you. That's what it seems like to me, like, oh, let's keep them hooked. And we can just go down like Ed Buck did and we can find SEC survivors. So that's what they are. They're SEC survivors. And that's why they call them

hustlers because they use sex to survive. A lot of these guys are not even textbook gay. There's they're a market. Yeah. No, I'm just saying I mean, so we got to humanize these people. And the reason why I'm just being so flip it about it, because that's how they seem just as a demographic, oh, your pride or your black lives matter. Oh, you're, you're just a hustler. You're just a hustler. Right, so they want to discard them. Oh, it's like, are you in

there's no red insight in this case. So that's the thing we're talking about in a vacuum here. Yeah, that goes to show that these politicians don't care about you. So I want to get into what actually what survival sex is, is a throwback from show eight. And this is Tiffany Graham.

survival sex is an enormous issue to LGBTQ youth between the ages of 10 and 25 are 70% more likely to engage in survival sex, while 80% of homeless transgender youths are more likely to have engaged in survival sex than homeless cisgender youths? Now, what do we mean by survival sex. In principle, survival sex is part of the wider commercial sex trade. People who engage in survival sex to do so because

they literally have no other way to survive. So they exchange sex for money, they exchange sex for shelter, they exchange it for food, clothing, or any other good, which is a necessity of life. And Metaphorically speaking, you know, what we've discussed over the past 82 shows it fits right in with the overall image of the Democratic Party, when it comes to black Americans don't give a shit. They don't. Even more than that it's not like is this neglect?

Neglect fullness? You know, I'll be, you know, saying neglect is no, we're praying, we're gonna create policies and programs, that's going to provide more drugs, better ways to use drugs. So we create this market that can be preyed on by Democrats and Republicans. It's that like, we don't want that predators on both sides out. But I'm just saying who has the leverage right now? Yeah. And who's more jokes? You know? Nothing about fitting No.

No, interesting. And I mean, I'm sure you had I mean, I don't know if he had heard of Superman before. He knows what I have never heard of. Yeah. This is what's being pumped in the streets. And then a little older, just homeless. No, a lot of these guys men or boys, because he said 1010 years old. That's pedophilia. This is the pizza party, folks. I know people get triggered when I say

that. But this is the pizza party. It ain't just a book. It ain't just just laying Maxwell. It ain't no. This is a system. And it's global. Oh, yeah. It's how you know. Anybody else? Yes. I'm always very careful with these conversations. I'm cool with it here on the podcast. But like I did, I just start discussing this on a radio station in the Netherlands back in the early 2000s. And it was about, interestingly enough, the Dutch Justice Department, the attorney general, in fact, of

the Netherlands, and that case is still ongoing. Everyone knows, everyone knows what the guy was into everybody. It's all known, but it's just now we're just not going to move on it. And I start, I brought this up and had a journalist on who had gone pretty deep on this. And the station's license was pulled and, and everything was gone two weeks later.

And the reason why I'm bringing this up is the more and more we see in the news story, you know, teachers pushing this guy, you know, these agendas, and, you know, people are not even being sensible. And now it's to a point like, a straight up just child abuse. Yes, not in public in broad daylight. And it's already been normalized. Like, I mean, you heard Tiffany Graham, I mean, she's the dean of you know, I mean, she's no, she's the Dean of the University of South Dakota law school.

As much as I hate to say it, but, you know, this pedophilia, and abusing children. I mean, the biggest cover up is still the Catholic Church. I mean, it's like this, like, this shit is covered up. That's why it's easy to say it's global. It's across all kinds of, quote, unquote, industries. And to be honest with you, I went limited to the Catholic Church, but we'll get there a little later. I know. But that's the one that's probably like, I mean,

everyone knows about it's one of their old now. Paths. Right. So what I want to do now, before we get into the donation segment, you want to hear an instant Boulay phone moment. Sure. So you heard how she was trashing the politicians. And in the print not not in the last clip, not Tiffany Graham, but the woman who was speaking on behalf of the Democrats, right, I figured she might get in trouble for saying that. All right, it's the blue light phone. It was

everybody. And so I think we all feel vindicated today. Like, you know, finally. So

anyway, I just wanted to say one thing. Before we go, we are tremendously proud and lucky to have gotten to work with our law enforcement partners in the sheriff's department in FBI and DEA, they put together a tremendous case, and we would not have had the volume and quality of evidence without our law enforcement partners who are the unsung heroes here so it's so unusual to be feeling a bit absolutely shame on Jackie Lacey that all that evidence Yeah, but I'm happy that we're

able to get it to you and I'm happy you guys who stepped in there who was that? I think it was the lawyer one of the lawyers. Would you see how quick you Oh, yeah, she This is the mindset I'm talking about because even in this politician thing is politics things. It's their religion. It's not politics anymore. cult. Cult. Yeah. So what you heard her she was going on for everybody. Then this lady steps and she's like, Oh yeah, you're right. I was wrong instant Boulais phone.

Yeah. And then she topped it with something else like the Who's that guy? You know the shame on you? Yeah, she had a we have found another victim because she was consciously aware of how she sounded doing, you know, saying I wonder a degree turn. So she had to put the ire on somebody else. So um, yeah. So that's the first block. That's that's the Andrew Gillum. What happened that night, we're going to see the fallout on the other side, and then the agendas that he's

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All right. So we're I have to look at the agenda that's been going on. And I say that we're purposely to run gay and black together. And to do that, we got to go back to show eight. Once again, this is Michael Eric Dyson, the worst salad man set himself. And this is where he was pushing is gay, the new black. I understand the tensions on both sides, you know, black folks that can we have some? Can we get something as ours? And nobody appropriate alternative jazz? Can we keep the civil

rights? Everybody ain't black. Now, here's, here's the thing that I think a lot of black people miss, is that it's real flattery for people to try to compare themselves to black people. You know, hey, we want to be black. We're down like them. It's an insult to a lot of black people like, hey, it's the same thing. Go dog. So slow down with that. What's interesting to me, though, is that many African American people forget that the Civil Rights Movement itself was borrowed, right, then then pay

some some royalties to Mahatma Gandhi. Because that's where King got it. Okay. So this is when they started rebranding and trying to work the intersectionality. Because, as some people may know, the fact that black people are more religious people by percentage, there is some apprehension about accepting gay. So can I put it another way? Yes. From the outside. The view is the culture of black men. If they're not gay, is this shut up about being gay?

And the reason why I'm in there soon. Well, let's go ahead and talk about it. Do we might as well, yeah. So hold on, hold on. Let me make sure no one else here next door. No one hears this shit. Right. So you said at the beginning of the show, you brought up lynching, yes, where there was a specific form of lynching called breaking where they would take the biggest, strongest slave and write them in front of everybody. And that this case, or this situation with Andrew Gilliam had a new

window to that. And that is where some of the apprehension of being associated with gay and black for black men, especially when it involves white men. You know, by it has a real eye, like, oh, okay, now what was that? What was that called? It's called Book breaking, but breaking book breaking, but bank, like a book like large? We know. And I'm glad you brought this up, because I had no idea. This is a very important history. This is very

important historical context. Because I've always wondered, you know, what's the problem? Okay, I see. So if this was something that was done by white men to black men to break the buck, the biggest the strongest slave with anal rape is what you're telling me? Yes. I can see how that image alone. Just the image alone in your mind would be totally triggering super triggering. Right? Because this damn, I never knew about this. Yeah. So and

that's and Andrew Gilliam being a large man. It even played into that more. Wow. Yes. And so that's where some of the apprehension like I say it's related some some of his religion. It's very, it's a very multi, multiple factors, multiple multi triggering, you know, it can be either, you know, like I said before about breaking it could be pushed back due to religion and faith. So, yeah, so that that's part of it. And so, the LGBT community had to Willow

Willow away at this apprehension. And this is one of the format's is this gay, the New Black. Gotcha. And it also feeds into the intersectionality. That also comes up to say well we have shared experiences Okay. Told us Are we good? Can I open the door again? Yes, police. Hey, everybody, just little stuff behind the door. Don't worry about it. Glad we got that away. So

took care of that. Yeah. So now you have micro Eric Dyson is pushing this thinking and to do that he's actually tearing away at Martin Luther King saying, well it's borrow from Mahatma Gandhi, who Gandhi was a huge racist himself. Go look at some of his earlier work in South Africa. Yeah, so that was like, Okay, well King Mo hot maganda was he not aware of what Gandhi we talked about? I think

I'll show eight. But let's fast forward and listen to the second clip on Michael Eric Dyson making the sale to you know, for intersectionality I think that gay black gay people do black people a favor and first of all, let's what are we forgetting here? Some gay people happen to be black? It is not like they told them Oh, you're gay. You don't have to go to the bank. Stay upfront with us. Because you're looking awful delicious today. Damn. You go to the head of the bus. Oh, man.

I don't make the news. I'm just recording right here. They ain't got no exemption. James Baldwin spoke for black people as a black gay man. Barbara Smith now, Audra Lorda. without buying Ruston, straight black people would never enjoy the rights they enjoy now. Adam Clayton Powell called Martin Luther King Jr. up and said, I'm going to tell a lie. That you invited Russ in the heaven and affair if you don't put him out the weight. Wasn't that true? What by our restaurant King? Yeah. Well, I

don't know about the relationship. The fact that he was gay. He was super gay. That's why they are open gate. I'm sorry, that said he was super gay. Know what I mean, for this house? I mean, for the times to be that open and to be black? Yeah. I mean, you could, you could classify him as that because and that's what Adam Clayton Powell didn't like, and that's why they are wrestling had to play the shadows. Right, because like, whoa, you can't be

Reverend Dr. Reverend Martin Luther King, Jr. Reverend. And hanging out with an openly gay man who you know, has some nefarious dealings himself. And if, if I recall correctly from Episode Eight, it's been a while. It was really him who had a lot of the ideas and Martin Luther King was the one who brought that to the people. Yeah, he was more of the speaker. Right. But they are wrestling was the he had the communist ties. Right. A lot of this came from a

Philip Randolph. I mean, he was playing in March and Washington way before then. But that's where you know, adequate power was aware like you can't be a reverend. And piling around because it's the hurt our movement. That that was the you know, what he was trying to do? Because he was the threat I got it for the imminent Santa Monica 60s. So this is where I found another interesting point with the Gilliam case, because in a time 2018 That's why I say it was more of a feature for him to

come out and blah Oh yeah, I'm gay. As well as well as a black man and you know, the youngest politician to do x y and right it should have it should have been adjudged another great box to check off. Right but the way they had to play it was totally different in the US spec and this is former star rising star democratic excuse me, former rising democratic star speaks out this is from Good Morning America. Back now Tamron Hall and your exclusive interview with Andrew Gillum.

The Democratic rising stars career came to an abrupt halt when he was discovered in a Miami hotel room with someone who suffered a drug overdose. Karen is going to join us live in a moment first. Diane Macedo has the details. Wow. Nice way to put it. He was found in a hotel room with someone who suffered a drug overdose someone. Right? Good. We rented a flip Florida Blue. He was poised to make political history, the first black nominee in a major party to run for

governor in Florida. A rising star in the Democratic Party, Andrew Gilliam came within striking distance of the governor's mansion during a hotly contested race in 2018. He lost a Republican Ron DeSantis by less than half a percentage point, RJ and I wanted to take a moment to congratulate Mr. DeSantis. The 41 year old husband and father was later floated as a possible VP contender. But behind the scenes, Gilliam's life was unraveling in the early hours of March 13. Police found

him and nev reIated. In this Miami Beach hotel room with two other men. A photo of Gillum in a compromising position was leaked for the world to see Gillum denied ever taking methamphetamines but checked into a rehab facility for treatment of AIDS. alcoholism and depression. So he was a possible VP tick pick. Hmm. Yeah, I didn't realize that make sense. It makes plenty of sense. So mine was appeared you didn't

catch that. They said he found him with two other men before it was him, the nurse or into other men. All right, so there's one person is gone. Right all of a sudden. How does that happen? Maybe I'm listening too much. I'm with you. I mean, I'm all in that this is a massive cover up. But now it's more interesting that he was passed and I have to take ABCs word at it that he was a potential VP pick. Yes. And the album is a whole nother can of worms. I didn't even pre

think this you harping on? Not harping, but, well, I'm raising appointed a VP, he would have been a heck of a lot better than who's exactly whose way will he being? Yeah, he will just be the COVID. Will the Yeah. Nobody wanted Kamala. So could the Coven have done this to him? Hmm. They're pretty good. I didn't even I didn't even stick stick on the VP thing. Yeah. Excellent point. Pretty powerful. Man. It could be I don't know. It's possible is Why could he be in? Yeah. Wow. I got me on that.

I really feel bad for Gillum. Nah, really, he really got worked over. Alright, so stay, we stopped at one. Let's get into the second part. Now, six months later, Andrew Gilliam is making his first television appearance, sitting down in an exclusive interview with Tamron Hall talking about the night that changed his life. What do you want people to know about the purpose, your intention? When you went to that room?

I would say the reason why I went to that room is probably no different than how anybody might communicate with someone that they are in a friendship relationship, whatever with. I understand very well what people assume about that. When that photo came out. I didn't recognize the person on the floor. That was not anything more than a person being at their most vulnerable state, unconscious, having given no consent. And someone decided to use a moment where I was literally lying in my own vomit.

And when you first saw it, I don't know how you're still standing. I don't know how you're still here. I'm still here by the grace of God. So much of my recovery has been about trying to get over shame. Shame is not that I did that, but I am bad. And Gillum also credits therapy with getting him to a better place as well as his wife was also sitting down with Tamron Hall. How long ago did this come up? This came out the following year. I mean, the following few

months, he went in rehab, okay, and then he came out. And then Tamra Hall got an exclusive interview with him. But it's something I found very interesting when he says he was laid out the image sorry, I said, that's that book breaking imagery. You know, and then he says that, how did he put it? He says, like somebody did it to him. The way he's talking like he said, I got drunk or high or whatever, and passed out know what he's ultimately because he's at the end. He's

kind of saying, Well, I'm bad, though. You know, I'm bad even it's kind of like, you know, I couldn't really help what happened here in a way and he said, I went to talk to no one more like when you go talk to a person. Now, I gotta push back on that because it's like, when I go talk to my friends, I don't end up you know, facedown on my vomit. Excuse me for being not on a weekday. Yeah, it will say like, No, we're gonna play that game.

But if somebody did this to you, then you need to come out and say it and the reason why I played the micro Dyson's clue first was this is him holding the lie. They say they saved this ass and he's he's toeing the line for sure. Right and he has to not hold the party line of every you know of everything is fine. There's not they made a bigger deal than it was made out of it. But I just the way I don't recognize that person. He's using all this like coded language that found is

strange and how He described a situation. And then he's like, I'm not bad. I did bad. Like, you know, that's that speaking to the, to the gay part of it, or the bisexual part of it. So he is somebody I sat down with him, of course and CO pushed him on the talking point. Yeah, because he really didn't take any blame for it. But I still think I think there's a strong possibility that he was a victim of some kind of setup. Um, yeah. Yeah, so I guess we can get to part three.

Okay, Dan, thanks very much. Let's bring in Tamron Hall right now to record an interview right there. We hear Andrew Gillum talking about his recovery there. What does he say happened in that room? I mean, he goes into limited details about the event because there was someone else in the room. But he does George open up very candidly about what he says was the spiral of his life after he lost that gubernatorial race, the impact that it had on his

marriage, his wife, RJ will join us as well. He's a father of three, he doesn't skirt around it. As you know, you've done these types of interviews. It's uncomfortable to have someone with their loved one present, tell the sort of details of what went on. But he goes, there we go there. There were no rules to this. It was more about a raw, real interview that he provided. And I think it will be one of the most compelling things that people will see. What she did a heck of a sales. Oh, great.

Well, the first thing that struck me is wow, that's a total replay of a Bill Clinton, Hillary Clinton sitting on the couch. You know, which I find disgusting. Remember when that lamp came down, and she ends like he's like I'm telling the truth, and they're all telling the truth. And then this light comes crashing down, like God struck it. I forgot about the moment. It's a great moment in broadcast history. But what I find disgusting is when these politicians roll their spouse out as like a prop.

Well, you need to I mean, so he was still in the game. If you're not in the game, you don't do it. But if you're in the game, that's that's she also makes sacrifices in it. Also, it's not just limited politics as well. It's also everything Yeah, makes his way to celebrities and even content creators. We saw this with Derek Jackson, who was the Kevin Samuels nemesis. He got caught up. And he had to bring his wife out and sit her beside him. So this is, this is what

they call it. Damage Control. 101. Yep. He's like, you gotta get the spouse that, you know, Kobe Bryant did the best. He ate me $1 Ray, he was like, you're gonna be here beside me. $8 million. So that'll do it. Yeah, that'll keep me loyal. Yeah, so I guess we can get to part four. Now. What's the future hold for him at this point? You know, that's, that's the question. Will voters hear his explanation and accept it? I'm not sure if he wants to reenter

the political world. But you know, politics, TV, people get addicted to it for various reasons. And I do believe he wants to, in some way have his voice heard you. You know, he was the youngest elected official African American in Florida's history. At 23 years old. He was an elected official. He believes this is his calling. But this fall from grace, certainly counters that I think his wife has been a great protector and supporter and what she reveals about their

relationship. And his rise to political fame is also something that in my 30 years of being a journalist, I've not heard from a political spouse. So it is compelling. It's a part of our season two premiere of a huge week of explosive interviews where we come to the table and we say this is about living your life not defending your life, but most important to us on this show. Let's talk about it. Wow, it sounds really compelling as you said, Tamarin thanks very

much. Good luck on the new season also happy birthday this week. Wow. Thanks, George. Can we get our biscuit they always give me a biscuit on my birthday. Sure. Happy birthday. Oh, so live you're not life? How she put it live your life not No, I don't think it was more it wasn't it was it was it seemed like it was a fair line is right at the end. Let's hear it one more time. Sure.

What's the future hold for ruining your life but most important to the table and we say this is about living your life not defending your life but most important to your life not defending either the gay the gay thing? Yes. Hmm, so his wife and him, they do something I've never seen before. And they as tamarind said, in 30 years she hadn't seen it. They take a unique angle on this. Yeah, anything he wants to say before we get into No, no. I'm ready for the unique angle 26.

The truth is, is that Tamron every one believes the absolute worst about that day. At this stage, I don't have anything else to have to conceal. I literally got broken down to my most bare place to the place where I wasn't even sure that I want to live broken. I heard it now. Very bare place. Yeah, yeah. Wow, Buck break right there. Do you think you think

he's signaling that? Or is that to, I literally get broken down to my most bare place, to the place where I wasn't even sure that I wanted to live not because of what I had done. But because of everything that was being said about me. What was most hurtful was this belief that I was somehow living a lie in my marriage and in my family. That was the most hurtful to me, because I believe we're all

entitled to mistakes. And I believe we're entitled to those mistakes without having every other respectable and redeeming part of our lives and validated. And I felt like the love that I have between my wife and I, my family, but most important, the authenticity that I tried to lead with was all in question at this point. And not even in question anymore. Something else had been assumed by that. And to be very honest with you, when

you didn't ask the question. You put it out there is whether or not identify as gay and the answer is I don't identify as gay, but I do identify as bisexual. And that is something that I have never shared publicly before. Okay, he should get the monkey pox vaccine. Never seen that done before in politics. And I think he had to do that to salvage his political career. Oh, he's not gay, or not bisexual. That he appears as a closeted self hating gay man.

Right? So what he's what he's saying here is yeah, I'm bisexual. I just knew I didn't hang it up on from the highest tree and you know, it's like is what it is? To correct. Did his wife say anything about that? Did she have any? Was there any questioning of her? She did say she knew and he told her beforehand. They got married. Okay, wish there this big push now? Should black women cuz we talked about last time that there's a perceived and

maybe even real, a shortage of men quality man. I mean, you how you call, how you qualify quality, you know? So should Black women consider marrying bisexual men? And it was a push back against that like, No, we shouldn't. And that goes to say the grassroots are not reacting the way the leadership expects or how the leadership has promised right. And that's why I was saying maybe this is the cleaning up of all the old politicians because they're seeing being seen as

ineffective. It's time to change because these new these ideas you'd like wit row, we saw that reaction. Yeah. With the crime. We're seeing. unexpected reaction there. Now we got to be careful that because it's a crime bill 1.0 started, but is conservative views are being more accepted with the grassroots. And so Oh, I see what you're saying the marketing problem. Yeah, it's a very I mean, the the group thing is weakening. And I have to say that's due to warmth because of social media.

Super clips. Yeah. Shows like this. When people go with show Oh, this is a game this is a scam. This is a sale, that they're trying to keep you herded into a certain type of type of mentality. And this is really speaks to the ineffectiveness of the mainstream media, which is the The propaganda machine Yeah. Wow. I'm so glad you're doing all this because it really went

by me and it wouldn't have. I mean, there's so much depth to it because he's black that I was unaware of is really an interesting case. Yeah. And the fact that once again, he played he's playing ball. There's no need to detonate him at this point. I've haven't heard anything. Come out of bisexuals. Good. Okay, no need to detonate. I like that. It doesn't make any. That's what baffled me and I had to see to see what's

going on here. So now we get to speak to his wife and 27 when you saw that picture, where were you? I was at home alone. I was. And I knew something was wrong, because a number of friends had reached out to do that. I'm just checking on you. Because it was hard to see. My husband the strongest man I know. It was hard to see what did you see in that photo? Um, he was helpless. Honestly, I got angry that he was being taken advantage of in a way that was unfair.

I thought that whole situation if it had happened to a woman, it would be a very different narrative, meaning if anyone had a tablet with a woman lying naked on the floor with the pictures have even made it out. It would have been criminal. Hmm, great point. And I just looked at the pictures and put them in the show notes. Man, this is a bunch of phony baloney stuff. You see that? So the pills, there's a next to the bed pill bottle on the bed. And all the pills are in a little bunch next

to it. But the pill bottle is up straight. I mean, it looks really staged. And also, I'm thinking on that anyway. Yes. We don't mind that. You say that now, because I didn't get that deep into it. But when I first heard about the story, it made me think of the movie ricochet. I haven't with I haven't seen with Denzel Washington. Another way he was gonna come in, right. It's Oh, it's one of his earlier films. Oh, I think I have seen it. Yeah. And I keep forgetting the

guy who he shot. But he shot this white supremacist. And the guy was hell bent on ruining his life after that. And they set him up with a prostitute. And like said They drugged them took pictures of him. Right, right, right. Yeah, all these were saying all these different things. And that's what came to mind. As you were saying that, and then when I first heard his story, like, Is this is this a setup? Because he, um, be honest with he doesn't seem like a meth user to me. Well, I

also know he doesn't. And I think that if if you are a meth user, you add on the throwing up thing is, to me is more continuous that would make more sense if he was really, really drunk. Or if there were some pills involved that he didn't know he was taking. He seems like he was an experienced, experienced in some things. I don't know. I just you know, the whole beginning of this episode, and then looking at the pictures, you put it together go. That looks pretty staged.

Once again, who was that fourth person in the room? I don't know. I? I have no idea. So let's go ahead and and get into 28. Is that why you did not want him to reveal that he told you long before your marriage, that he was bisexual? I'm not even that he told me just for him to have to say it. I don't think it's anyone's business. I don't think it's fair to people who are not heterosexual or not assumed heterosexual that they should ever have to say or disclose

what they are. Because of how judgmental people are. I also know and I think he mentioned it to you that so many people just don't understand bisexuality, they think they can wrap their heads around gay. But bisexuality is just something different. How were you able to understand it when he presented it to you and then ultimately proposed and said, but you're the one I think he said he told you that I choose you right? I just believe that. Love and sexuality exist on a

spectrum. All I care about is what's between us Then What agreement do we make to be in relationship with each other? I watched an interview where you talked about God's plan. After all of this, after the words of shame directed at you, Andrew, and the questions that your children will ask when they're a little older, hopefully a lot older. We're not supposed to question God's plan. But have you questioned God's plan? All the time? Whoa, I got pretty deep.

The Yeah. Oh. Where can I start? Because yeah, I mean, here's, here's the dichotomy. You've got, yes, God's plan, but homosexuality isn't supposed to be God's plan. Right. And she also said, it shouldn't be a person, that person shouldn't have to base out in themselves. Right? In a private life. Yes. But when you're a politician, when you're going into that room and negotiate, or you're negotiating on behalf of, quote, unquote, black people, are you saying,

are you negotiating for the LGBT community? C, this was the big issue with Black Lives Matter. Because they lead with Black Lives Matter. Right. But but really, they were pushing for everything but heterosexual men, right. And as a heterosexual man, which is the thorn in the side of the Democrats right now. And the people that are least likely to go along with is a much needed chunk of that black vote. It's like, whoa, who are

you representing? And it's not representing lifestyle is representing somewhere in lifestyle, because what I said about what the image of that can portray, but more or less when you go into that room, and you were in talking about negotiating for funds? are you negotiating for LGBT funds? Right? Are you negotiating for quote unquote, black funds? And they do this weird trick and I want to talk about it more on the other side of it when I say they, I'm talking about the gay

ink, let's just call them that. Like we did Black Lives Matter. thing. When they go in that room who you negotiating for, because they seem like one of the people you're representing is getting a lot of tangibles. But, but the others, plank that you claim to represent, is not getting any tangible. That's why it becomes important. This is kind of the genesis of of this entire podcast is you know,

it's all lip service. And what it really is is black America, please hold the door open so all these other people can go through and as the alphabet people first write me because it oftentimes it can be Jewish people, it can be feminist, it could be communist, you know, all kinds of different agendas, but we're the person left holding the door

is the heterosexual black male. Yeah. And, and the fact that they use our image and it's miss me, but that that was part of the George floor thing him laid out like that, you know, him being like, I actually will lay it out. That was that was part of the imagery and made it so powerful, to for them to use for their promotion of other agendas, right. So as same as this case. So that's why it's important, like I say, your

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over skipped over him there. Oh, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, we don't do that here. We don't know. Let me do that little setup or miss Sharon Layton Hicks. Sorry, Miss Sharon Lippmann Hicks is the person that was also charged with him. Really? Yes. Well, have you ever heard of her? No. Okay. All right. So Miss Shara hit me. licks me, let me Hicks Excuse me. She was the CEO of the let me I have it right here. The National Black Justice Coalition.

Oh, Riley. Yeah. The National Black Justice Coalition. Its mission is to end racism, homophobia, LGBTQ SGL bias and stigma That's who was fun and help him the money. She will receive the money and then she will send it to Gillum. Now she has a very interesting past personal and currently when she was arrested, this is the Tallahassee Democrat Sharon leadman. Hicks suspend Florida House campaign amid federal corruption charges. I have the article here says Sharon Sharon letting Hicks was arrested

Wednesday along with former Mayor Andrew Gillum. Not not governor. Candidate mayor, Mayor Andrew Gillum. On the charges they found on campaign contributions to themselves. Is the spinning her campaign for Florida House the let me Hicks foul to run for the Eighth District. See in on June 1, just days before the federal grand jury indicted on charges of wire fraud and conspiracy to commit mail fraud. I continue with the article. She says I am devastated by these baseless

charges. I have been I have made the painful decision to suspend my campaign she said at a news release I must now focus on fighting for my continued freedom. Let me Hicks owner of PP PNP communications and CEO of the National Black Justice Coalition. She said she says she found it stunning that the charges came to light just days after she came became a viable candidate in the house place stunning What a surprise.

Yes, she qualified to run for the House seat last week. Now all of a sudden, you one and we got him being handled a bisexual man being handled by the National Black Justice Coalition who was who was also gay? Yes, no, she's not gay. Yes, she is. Is she not? Well, I believe so. In 2010, she wasn't openly gay. Because in the clips I had, I don't have that clip person specifically. But she considered herself. She said she didn't like calling herself an ally.

She hated that word. Really? Yes. Now that makes me regret if you have some counterpoint. But I didn't clip that part. But yet I assume that she was a straight up hearing woman. The way she I don't know. I mean, I'm just I'm just searching. Okay. This is from queer bio.com. Let me see. They said no, no, I'm sorry. She said she she said she was the only straight person on the sea. Yeah, I think I'm wrong. which I found very interesting that you have to be gay to work

for that company, or that organization. Is that Well, you discriminate? Doesn't have to be but yeah, I understand. But the way she said it was like that was a you know, it was a requirement. What I find is she doesn't even have a Wikipedia page. Yeah, that's why we got to get into her. This is annoying. I mean, that's as a politician. You don't have a wiki page sums up that's a very she's bigger than a politician. She's a handler.

This is she's Yeah, this. That's very weird. Okay, let's just go ahead and get into 30. Tell me how you feel about the Obama administration's push an effort to bring equality. I gotta put timeline give a timeline for this. This is her at the one nation working together rally in 2010. And she's speaking to MSNBC. Alright. How do you feel about the Obama administration's push an effort to bring equality for all across this country? What is President Obama been able to do toward that end?

Honestly, the inclusion agenda for the LGBT equality movement is unbelievable. The administrator administration has been an advocate. It has listened. It has heard our concerns, it has moved the agenda. And yes, there is absolutely a lot more work to be done. We want so many more things brought into the mainstream, that LGBT equality

is for all it benefits all of our communities. But we have made some significant gains, whether it's the Family and Medical Leave Act, whether it's the passage of the hate crimes, legislation, we're moving forward with the repeal of Don't

Ask, Don't Tell. We are very optimistic that one that we have the ear of the President to that the administration understands the benefit of inclusion for all the seriousness of the atrocities, like the overwhelming number of suicides are the last three weeks public education is important because education must create an environment that is safe and inclusive for all children. All right. Babies are taking their own lives. It is the kind of thing that is gut wrenching for any of us to

see it's a it's a real problem in this country. Sharon, let me fix that. We're glad that you're addressing issues out there today on behalf of the National Black Justice Coalition. Hmm. Yeah. So she said agenda? Yes. She said the word agenda which I thought you couldn't have a gay agenda, or that was a myth. The Gay Agenda? Yeah. But she just ran down the whole list. And this is from the Wikipedia page from the National

Black Justice Coalition. Today, in 2011, the organization identifies issues as it will be focusing its programming efforts on employment non non discrimination act, marriage inequality, bullying in schools, don't ask, don't tell, Historically Black Colleges and Universities and HIV AIDS. And it also had the black church summit in 2006, where Reverend Al Sharpton and denounce homophobia and call it call for greater inclusion of LGBT people. So this is what I was

talking about with their agenda. Interesting. We had a bunch of black people just shot and killed in Buffalo, and we still can't get a black hate, hate crime act. But they were pushing for it. 2011. So that's what makes me ask, Will you go in that room? whose agenda are you pushing? Right? That's the only reason I'm worried about what's your what's your how you identify or whatever else. I don't care what you do in your bedroom. Nobody cares. But when you go in that negotiation room,

yeah. You know, that that matters then. Right. So that's, that's another reason why it matters. And then this is one of the issues, the pushing in and making inroads in the quote unquote, black church. Right, we need to do something in the black church. We need to change the minds of people in the black church. Hello, that's an agenda. Right? Because with that comes money. And a lot of the churches always need that money. All the money ain't nothing like a fresh dollar bill. I like better money

is more beautiful, every woman. So yes, so now you see. It's not it's just not a benign agenda. It Well, no, I mean, we lost at Buck, we got to make up for it somehow. And she would be not to the size of him. But you know, she used she used a bundler. I will say Anna Anna handler, she's, she's a double. So let's go ahead and get into her air her own words. And she's speaking at the city of click the City Club of Cleveland, we learned a student organizers, we did what we needed to do. We

were under assault in our state government. But to us, it was just another challenge. It was just something that we were supposed to do, that we didn't realize, when all of America's eyes are on you what that really means. So in many ways, I feel very blessed and fortunate because I do believe I was discovered. But I was just discovered for doing the work of ordinary people and an extraordinary time in our

democracy. And in that walk, to be under the tutelage of somebody like Norman Lear. There's never an ordinary day.

Because it's always wondering what a great mind like that would teach you, and under his wing to really educate me on the separation of church and state, and what religious exploitation looks like, and how our government is so fragile as to why things like the separation of church and state mattered, especially when it comes to freedom and democracy, and not allowing any one's interpretation of what they feel is right and good, especially in the name of the Lord. And then

using it to exasperate an agenda. That also oftentimes is not as genuine as your faith. Norman Lear Are you familiar with Norman Lear? Adam? I'm very familiar with Norman Lear. Norman Lear would be currently the his legacy lives on. He's still alive. As the propagandist of Hollywood, the Norman Lear Hollywood foundation. They're all over Hollywood in the writers rooms, they deliver scripts, they come up with ideas. It's the it's a huge propaganda outfit.

And could that be why more the black roles and black shows are leaning more to the LGBT? Generally, if it's not climate change? Is that Sure? And the reason why I say this is Miss Sharon Littman. Hicks, previous to coming to the National Black Justice Coalition, which I find that they put no mention of gay in the title of the organization. Yeah. When you when you hear that National Black Justice Coalition, it doesn't speak. And they done that purposely. They did that purposely. So before

she came to that organization became the CEO. She worked at People for the American way. People for the American way, is a progressive advocacy group in the United States organized as a 501. C four lobby nonprofit, nonprofit organization. It was raised in 1981. By television producer Norman Lear. Yeah. Describe liberal who found the organization in 1980 to challenge the Christian rights agenda of moral majority. Pretty much he was sent over to the NNJ in BJC, to make inroads in the

black church. Wow. Okay, so I just happened to stealth missile man, she's got a lot going on. And like I said, I believe her to be gillows handler in his situation. Yeah. So now what I want to do is, in this presentation that she gives at the City Club, City Club of Cleveland, she, she lays out how you made those inroads in the black church, and when to really take it to the next step to get the

education of what free speech is about. And as we all are watching it play out that freedom of speech does not mean that it's free speech without consequence. So as we all live through the unique modern day, challenges of Amis show, and Norman, as we all were a free speech organization, we weren't allowed to go out on that particular issue, the way and he called us and he just blasted us What do you mean, you're not going out of it? We're like, Norman, this is a free speech

issue. We're, no, no, no. It's a free speech issue. If your speech is free, he is a brand of a network. And as a network executive, that type of speech is costly to me. He's got to go. So fast, we struggle. And to me, I was growing up in this society. I was like, Wow, what a unique capitalistic view. The origin of the castle Kenny. That's right, baby. Wow. That's the origin right there. Normally, I go after the advertisers. And he's still with us. 99 years old.

Which I have some more information on him that we're going to talk about at a later date. Okay. Yeah. Um, but yeah, this is she learned under his tutelage. Well, then she's then she's a Grand Wizard. Exactly. Exactly. And like I said, she was brought over to the MB JC to fulfill the, you know, the mission to complete making inroads against the biggest force in the black community pushing back against the, you know, the LGBT Inc. agenda. So did not make that clear. So

she did she fail? I mean, why did she Why did she get wrangled in this? Or? I don't know. I don't have an answer for that question. And like I say, I hate I don't. But I made this more about. It doesn't make any sense for a democratic, lenient Department of Justice to come after these two know. It that that's the bigger story is not the who done it. It's the why, why, why were they taken? I mean, we have so many other things. You know, that's going on right now, that pales in comparison to what

these two were doing. And then the lying to the FBI part is the one that really gets me right is why that charge. So I don't want to beat a dead horse. But let's get into more of her in her own words. It wasn't real challenging for me to leap into this body of work, because it really became holes. I'm sorry. I just had a thought. So the why lying to the FBI, because if all the other stuff because it's indictments, right,

they haven't been found guilty. They've been indicted. Right? So if all of that turns out to be bullcrap, it may just be a total marketing exercise. Then you always have the lie, as you pointed out, lying to the FBI. That's why they I mean, you're gone. I mean, they can Roger Stone. What's his name? Ben Flynn. General Flynn. They are lying to the FBI. So if all the other stuff falls away, yeah, but you lied to the FBI, FBI, so you're guilty.

These two individuals, which was one, the rising star of the Democratic Party, almost a VP candidate, as you know, not all words, possibly a presidential potential, and the head of the biggest LGBT, black organization, this taken down a treat like white supremacy, that's an elimination right there. Alright, let's go back to the clip, we'll find out more. It wasn't real challenging for me to leap into this body of work, because it really became whole for me. In that walk under

that type of tutelage, when election, 2008 happened. And I got a president that looked like me. And everything in the world felt magnificent. Until the whole year of 2008. I was in California, doing programs on the ground called homophobia in the black church, and reaching out to my community just to soften the reality. Because in the black community, you can't even get to gay marriage. Because the conversation about gay is like, let me be clear, the black community invented the

term Don't Ask Don't Tell when. And so when you even try to have a conversation about gay marriage, what are you talking about? Gay marriage, we have 70% Single Woman households in the black community, gay marriage. Marriage is not even a cultural term that is revered in the way that society may deal with. But you're talking about gay marriage. We don't even say the word gay in our community. Is it true that black Americans came up with Don't Ask Don't Tell?

I don't know if that's a true statement. But that's kind of I don't care what you're doing in your bedroom. Well, wait a minute. When did Don't Ask Don't Tell come out. Was that during bush? Ah, it wasn't during Obama. Not that was was it Clinton or Bush? Maybe it was it was pre Obama. It was pre Obama. Don't Ask, Don't Tell. Let's see when it was 2001. So it was bush. Okay. I knew it was right at the beginning of the 2000s when that first start cropping up?

Well, considering George Bush is of course black. Maybe no, that would be clean. True. Well, really weird. That's really, really strange to understand why she said that. But the takeaway from that is, is true. I don't I don't care what you do in your bedroom. I don't want to hear about anything. You know. I mean, that's that's your own business. But what she's talking about is the black church. Yeah. And she

was basically saying that clip. Black people were being accused of why they lost the I think it was Prop Eight, I believe it was called in California. I don't like gay marriage proposal, that they mean, the Defense of Marriage Act? No, the one in California. That was a state. That was a state. California, what's the word? I'm looking at? What proposition? Yeah, let me see if it was here. Well, let's see. 2008 proposition eight Yes, but that was to ban same sex marriage.

Right and black people once again didn't vote the way they thought they were going to vote all black Christians, right. This is why Obama had to come in as a marriage is between a man and a woman. Mm hmm. See, it was it was one of those cases where a lot of this has been thrusted upon and I want to make this very clear black believers. I want to make this very clear

this this is a portion. This is not all black people. This is a portion but black believers are like well, who you want me to believe God are you us and like that's the that's the thing is like I don't and they want black believers to basically say oh, no, you gotta be okay with and it's like okay, I'm okay with outside of church, but inside of church. I don't know if I can conflicts with what I believe and notice they don't push this

anyway. You don't hear this kind of taught me a mosque. You don't hear this kind of talking synagogues? No, definitely not. Is only churches so um, And the reason why it affects black people so much is cost them money that comes with it. You know, a lot of political money flows through the black church.

Yeah. I mean, we talked about that with Margaret Sanger is alleged to be, you know, quoted, you know, you had to get, you got to get that you got to get the reverence involved in order to propagate a message. Right. And we all know if you've ever been to a black church on the Sunday before a Tuesday before election, gonna be some

white people on the front row. Or some politicians, at least, you know, but it's very stark, because like all the black people, and it's like, it's like three white people sitting on the front row. It's like, oh, yeah, I'm here from, I'm running for the City Council, or whatever else, I hope you can, and which is totally illegal. So. So I just, I just want to point this out that this this, the reason why I'm bringing this

up. This is the when the pendulum started swinging that way, what we're seeing in real time now is that pendulum is coming back via Clarence Thomas, which I told you, Clarence Thomas was gonna be a major player in a previous show. You are right, man, and boy, is he ever and I told you how they will treat you ever. I mean, he's, he's really, I mean, it's like they're really going after him. It's incredible. I mean, they call him the N word on Twitter. It's nuts.

Yes, no, it's not. I mean, Qatari called Kanye, Kanye. So I mean, in the first thing is Kanye got suspended from Instagram for calling the Trevor Noah coup. What we've seen nobody's getting suspended for Clarence Thomas, and the way he's been treated. Well, no issues with Clarence Thomas, you know, I mean, I have my own issues with him. But yeah, but he realizes that he's in demand right now. Oh, yeah. He got a

lot of juice. I don't know if any black man has had this much juice inside of the nurse and the federal government in history. She's on that might be high salt, like hyperbole, but you know, hey, that balance it. I mean, we're talking about just look at Prop Eight. You have this all over again, they had it wrapped up with these, you know, Supreme Court decisions, right. And Clarence Thomas is putting that back on the table. Now, he said on my way out. I'm gonna kick all of this over on my way

out, you know, hey, I've been treating me. Okay. And but he's not getting the pushback that you think you would have got from quote unquote, black community? No, no, he's getting the pushback from the media and from Black Lives Matter, Inc. and Roe v. Wade, Inc. And that's where the white liberals Yes, yes, yes, Jen. Yeah, cuz they were what they were saying some really like one lady, she went all the way. But I told you when that pinch that

but this is the pendulum is swinging back. And it's, once again, it's like, oh, okay, whoa, y'all are pushing the boundaries. Now. And I say this to the same way I said about Black Lives Matter to Black Lives Matter, Inc. You gotta watch who's representing you. You know, I don't care what you

do in your bedroom, next your business. But the way they're portraying y'all in the media right now with some of the stuff that's going on at these parades and have some dignity people know, what I'm saying is how you're being represented by a small minority is making it very hard for people to support. Yeah. The same way, because I always say, well, black lives matter. You're saying, Wait, it was the ink? Was it representing what the

people want? And that's why they're out on the island by themselves right now, because the people aren't behind them. So I'll say it's the same thing for all the other inks. You know, it's gonna be the same thing with the border. It's gonna be like, Oh, well. How open Do you want it to be? You're gonna wish you just trust me. This pendulum is swinging backwards. I'm just for warning people. I think the pendulum swinging back in many places, I think

it's and it always happens. It's in its nature, you almost can't help it. It's just It works that way. Right? But we got to be careful as the pendulum and I've always warn of this. We don't want the pendulum swing all the way the other way either, because then we become a very the same thing. It's just as polarizing. Exactly. So I think we started 33 or 34. Now

for me, sweet victory. We had Obama but then that next day, the only thing we heard competing with the victory was the black community took gay marriage away from me Not all gay people. It was a conversation about white gay people. So it became white gay people, against African Americans. Wow. All I could say for the next few weeks was Wow. Because as I was trying to celebrate Obama, I was called in. Like, I felt like I was being called him by Obama into

California to say, How did you let this happen? Now, last population check, I think African Americans, I can't let that slide back in about 10 minutes because she just like, Excuse me. She said, she's like she she was being caught in by Obama. And she said, like being called in by Obama, I have Ah, here it is. All I can say for the next few weeks was Wow. Because as I was

trying to celebrate Obama, I was called in. Like, I felt like I was being called him by Obama, and to California to say, How did you let this happen? Who calls her in? Who's got the juice there? Was it her boss, Norman Lear. Maybe? Now? Population check. I think African Americans about 7% of the state of California, maybe no one pulled the stats on the 25% Latino community. No one pulled the stats on the 12% Asian American community. I had people just calling because CNN

went up with this, you know, hellacious study. And then we just totally gave the evangelical white people a pass and decided that black America took gay marriage away from the state of California. And then there goes California that goes to country. Wow. That's quite the accusation. And when we see it with a black man took away Roe v. Wade. It was five other justices. They voted with Clarence Thomas. Yeah, no, no, he's the only one it was the black guy. Yeah, that's he did

it all on his own. Yeah, that guy's horrible. Doesn't he care about his children? Right. But once again, this is this is how they're framing it. But there is some We saw this with the vaccine. If we don't get on board, other people are skeptical, like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, wait a minute. Like, even though we don't have the numbers? Is the is the I don't know about that. You know,

that's why they push so hard. Like, I'm making rap songs and everything else getting us on board, and just kept saying and just kept saying over and over again. Now historically, of course, we understand Tuskegee, you know, oh, they kept it but you know, it's a new time as Fauci right. So it's the same thing with this, these other agendas. And when we talk about that, we're talking about political agendas. And that's why Brock said Brock, it was necessary for

Brock Obama to do what he did in 2012. And make the pivot on what a marriage was. Because they weren't gonna let him play that role anymore. They forced him they forced him by mate letting Joe's us have the cat slip out of the bag. Exactly. And there he is, our man Joe, ready to go once. Again, always wanted to you. I guess we get to the next clip.

So now this is when they open up for the questions. And as one of the one of the people there in the audience is going to ask her a question about the struggle between faith and her sexuality. There is a struggle there because there are words there. And if we accept it as the indisputable truth, there is a problem. Because how do we reconcile, I want to go to heaven. I'm serious, I want to go there. But also, if my pheromones say I'm attracted to a female, then I have that

conflict. So how do you address that? I address it real simple. Because I am a car carrying Christian. And my one of my spiritual teachers taught me know me by my deeds. So my job is not in the book. The book is there as a guide, but those were written by men. I haven't heard one that doesn't tell me God wrote. Okay, well, now we're in a deep spot lady. Who's your God? Yeah. And she ends it with not one word of God, right? This is why it's called a testament. It's the witnesses.

That is the mega talking point. That into power. Only God can judge me which people think is in the Bible, which is not which is not but that's that's the II mindset that was the mean, that was the that was the push, right? No, you know, just kind of like with the Constitution, ya know, some man wrote that thing back in a man man, white man, white man. It's not the same anymore. You know, we need to get the science the Constitution is a fluid document is gender fluid?

And this is the real attack on the patriarchy. Yep. Is anything man wrote, there's no countered, or whatever their agenda is. Gotta go. And for her to say I'm a card carrying member Christian. And I don't care once you fill that blank and whatever, it could be Muslim, it could be Jewish person, whatever. It could be whatever they you say, but I don't believe everything is written in the book. It's like so how can you remember? Yeah. Yeah, but this is what they've done. And like I said, our shot

ring out on board, TD Jakes has gotten on board. And a lot of these people have got on board and have political gain from it. Most you see mostly Yeah. So this is I'm sure that that money that she that pool of money that is going right back into the church and this is why poverty affects the quote unquote black community so badly that they need to resources sodium they sell out. And I'm not condoning it, but I'm just saying that and you're gonna see more of this because I'm gonna let you know

now. The black churches in trouble. Do toe COVID Yeah, no church, no collections. No collections. No value. No money. No value. Yep. No money. Yeah. These charges have mortgages. Yeah, I mean, I sure hope if there's another situation like that, no church allows that to happen. And when you have the big institutions that you know, the more like the AME Zion Baptist, there'll be okay. Because they they're more of a Yeah, but it's the small

community churches, right? The ones where there were independent a lot of these don't have fallen once the threes where they can freely speak how they want to speak. Because that's another thing and Michelle and I don't want to go make this a black, but black church show but I'm saying that these were the enrolls and this wasn't all Democrats either, because I've heard Republican donors push the same thing. Oh, yeah. Take us off in line so and it's only

Christians. But you you will get ran out of a mosque. If you when they're talking about oh, yeah, we need I don't care what Muhammad said. You know, that was just a man. Yeah. While you're at a draw cartoon of him, that'd be fun. That's exactly my point. The seriousness other religions when you mentioned their name, and and we saw this with what

happened in floor with the Pulse nightclub? Yeah, that's not that was one of the biggest if not the biggest shooting at a time in American history, but the fact that the shooter was Muslim politics won't let them use it like they want to know just like

with you, Valerie, I think it's how you pronounce it. Yeah, the fact that he was Hispanic now they really can't use it like they want to know even though even though he shot his grandma in the head it is a lot of things it's not cool when you start like that right so I'm just saying like now we got to start questioning who is their God? You know, is it is it they're not and like I said, I'm not here to convert anybody I'm not even to push my beliefs This is the God of the Democrats

sorry. I couldn't resist that's so offensive because it's like the bedrock of somebody's beliefs. You think you can come in and bully them that they're anti bullying, but then they want to use bullying pulling your fund pulling your you know, whatever attacking your money

your financials to push their agenda. So it's like oh, whoa isn't the guy that did the God I believe in the one saying what she says she believes in or is it these people that are giving your talking points so that's that's the point I want to make out of that. So some I'm still keeping my eye on who was in that room, but I want to wrap up with Neely fuller Jr. Just did. This is about being effect, you know, Seven Habits of Highly

Effective People. Is something effective or not and not for me personally but for the quote quote unquote community that we always talk about so nearly full is not a rationalize. Is homosexuality and lesbianism good for the quote unquote black community? Yes. Just like a person might come around and say, Well, hey, you know, I used to kind of be attracted to people, you know, had several wives and all like that. Even had a little incest.

I mean, every night. I mean, you know, and, but I finally came to the conclusion that people ain't where is that at all? I'm in the bath. You know, you say, well, you mean you end the bear into bear. I go out in the woods and I chase me down. I bear the bear. He said me no. Well, I'm Jason. I have found that that's a wonderful alternative. I mean, after Oh, man. coming in. Let's face it. Look at these marriages and divorces and whatnot. How

handled trouble with the bears? I mean, I used to didn't think of anything about bears, except just go into the ballgame. But if found out that, man, if you really snuggle up to a bear, you'll never want to go back. Do a nun nails. Now, where'd you get that idea? Well, it just came to me one night. Tired of these women? In fact, people was telling me well, if you don't like women get you a man. Well, I'm tired of them too. So I'm in the bath. So you know you might laugh, but it's gonna come to

that. If anything already goes there are some people into that. Yeah, they call it what do you call it? Beast? ality? Yes, sir. Yeah. So you know, I mean, that might be a wholesale thing, and abundant another 10 years. They say, Oh, hey, you know, this gay and lesbian thing. But lay it out, man anyway said, you know, man, everybody's trying to preserve the barrels. Now, you know, I'm trying to get me a pen.

The reason why I put that in there is go go for 2000 T. And when they were pushing this to now was happening out in the streets. No, I totally agree. I mean, he he's, of course, being kind of facetious. But really, I mean, you can push anything, and it seems to work eventually. And it's not about the people. No, because I just laid that out in the first segment of the show. We have gay men, black,

being killed by white man, serial killer. And nobody said anything where all the activities that were with Black Lives Matter. They were just hustlers. They were nival Exactly what he gets more serious in 37. Like, I just wanted to lay it out how asinine it sounds. But now he gets more serious. So what is the point that I'm making? It's a lots of things that the man can do. The man is extremely inventive, and extremely flexible. But the basic question is, is this type

of activity and improvement? And if so, why? Otherwise? Why you come around asking black people who don't even have a roof over their head, that this is what they should be pushing them to even have a decent school or a decent job. But now you want them to get joined the gay rights movement. And that should be their priority, we should drop everything else and make that a priority. I don't see the justification at all. They have some white people who came around years ago and started

saying calling it the rainbow. You know, kind of you might excuse the pun tailgating, Jesse Jackson's Rainbow PUSH for civil rights. And then they got the same Well, what is this all about? And when the question was asked, they answered by saying, well, it's another division of civil rights. Yeah. You know, it's all the same thing. Discriminating against gays as the same discriminating against blacks. And a lot of black people say, wait a minute, it may sound like the same thing,

but in a same thing. But they were able to shout all of that down. It is the same thing. Why is it the same thing? Because I said so. White supremacy in action again, always calls? That's it. So let me ask you a question. In general, I mean, I know your stance a lot of our show has been about this. Do you feel black America understands what's happening and does not agree with it, or is it a percentage? I mean, where do you think that is? It's

two different conversations. One, what a person does and who they're attracted to. That's one thing got it. But the CC furcation the little knot, and I never mentioned his name, but just to draw imagery, the little NAS x aspect of it, the pushing of more of, and it's not even about homelessness, it's about the flamboyancy of it. You have no representation across the spectrum because there's a spectrum inside their community. But what we get is RuPaul. Little NAS x. What's the porter

guy name? Billy Porter Porter, you see, I'm saying like, it's no serious and maybe a better word for it. But there's no serious Hey, man, we gave you dense hell, and then that should just be enough. Right? That's, that's the thing. It's just like, how now like, these are two different things. I mean, why are you portraying? And then the other thing is that, as he said, There's way other bigger issues that we need to deal with no kid, but they

prioritize for us. And they say, like, say white supremacy is because I said so. Right that NASA is like this, like we heard in the NCAA clip, when she came out and said what she said, they got on code when he wished he got a name. Um, what's the comedian's name? The little guy? Kevin, Kevin Hart. He had to apologize twice. Look at Dave Chappelle attacked on stage, and was justified for telling the joke. This is this is the true white supremacy this is we can check Oh your God. Oh, your God

said what? No, no, no, no, no, no. I'm your God. Yeah. And that's what I think we have one more clip? Yes, we do. He's going to illustrate the point of white supremacy. Is there a God? And that's how you handle religion to just go into question mode. The minute a person says that God is a leader, you keep asking questions. And then after they answer the questions during August, don't ever argue with a

person about religion. It later that barber shop now where religion is talked about all the time, don't ever argue about religion, does ask questions about that person's religion. And then when that person gets to talking about how much they believe in their religion, then watch and see what they do when the white supremacists come around. That's the test about who their god is. If you're you know, as an adult, you know, you

don't have to say nothing. Just watch what they do. When the lights or premises come around, and say I don't like what you're doing. And what I'm doing is according to my religion, oh, oh, you know, you gonna tell me with your black self. And I'm a white person in the system of white supremacy. And with your black self, you're gonna tell me about religion, and what your religion tells you to do. And I just told you to do something. That's just just the opposite. Oh, now, it's testing time now.

And every black person on the planet understands that testing time yeah, they take the shot Mo Oh, well take a shot. Because I said so. Aim ever been a time where you're saying My job was taught to vaccine. Natives today? Take the shot. I always love how fuller always says supremecy instead of supremacy and I think it really matters that he pronounces it that way to premise and just to clarify his for new listeners were his definition of widespread a one world government the same the

same. Do you win or what are you global? We're economic. For whatever you want to call it, anything starting with a W probably right? Gas was good 2016 and 2020 GaNS bad now your money on it well yeah, that's that's that's real white supremecy however you said it Yeah, that's very supremecy Yeah, that's it cuz I said so your dollar Oh, no. Your dollar were half what it was yeah, this is this is pretty that's big. You've you've actually this is this leaves it open for many more episodes. The

way I see it, we got a lot more a lot more ground to cover. And really, we I mean, I'm, I need to know who the fourth person was in the room. This is bugging the crap out of me. I need to know who we need to find that out and not Want to make it clear? No one's safe from this and when I mean this, whatever you think you're a bedrock of belief is Oh, no. Vaccines used to be you take one

you get it for the rest of your life. Herd immunity used to beat now white supremacy came along say no no herd immunity never heard of herd immunity now that's off the table. Have you noticed that it's completely gone? There is no such thing. It's Oh, we're only 90% vaccinated which at 80 You've got herd immunity supposedly. It's off the table. Yeah. That's it. Like I said, that's that one word, government. That's that because I said so. They were able to question

thank you for another exhilarating lesson, really. I mean, I learned so much here and so much I missed and I'm kind of kicking myself because this Gillum thing, man, what a huge what a huge rabbit hole and the fourth person in the room with a lot of innuendo to be picked up on but I just found that we say the DOJ is a persecuting these black man. And they're worried. Oh, and we got to America. I'm looking at you. Yeah, we got to figure out what's going on. Because there's

there's big forces at work. There's big things happening. And it could be it could be multiple parties, it could be two different forces working against each other. It seems that that's possible. Either way it pans out it's gonna be interesting to watch and we're seeing the pendulum swinging back. We just need to make sure we humanize people have the empathetic seat first

to understand and be understood. And then we can you know make sure we don't swing too far back the other way either to become oppressive and just another polar opposite manner. I thank you for the work mo fantastic well done. I appreciate that. And as I always say, pay attention to everything and the truth who is realistic and we will reveal ourselves on the next episode of moe facts with Adam curry remember us at mo facts.com Thanks brother.

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