76: Third Rail

More facts with Adam curry for February 16 2022. It's episode number 76. Oh man, I've been looking forward to this one. As everybody else. I'm Adam curry coming to you from the heart of the Texas Hill Country and it's time once again to spin the Wheel of topics. From here to Northern Virginia. Say hello to my friend on the other end. Ladies and gentlemen, Mr. Mo facts Well, I'm always happy to talk to you. I've physically I've been better. You know, I've been battling the Rona for a

week. But yeah, yeah. Other than that, it's about it's about gonna be really careful. You know, because if if I die then people like Ah, see, see? I didn't believe it. No, that would just be no good. I can't give anyone that satisfaction. So if you die, the Weekend at Bernie's, you everybody, I'm just smiling the whole time and fantastic. Everything good on your end Mo. Everything is wonderful. Everything is wonderful. Hey, how did that the Kwame panel go? It went great. Now I

went looking forward. Is that not recorded? Can I not get the playback or is that only live? That was live and once it goes once you record it goes live and then you can go back and watch it on what we call the replay on the YouTube side. So yeah, it looks like that though. I couldn't find a menu. I don't know what I'm doing. Oh, it's well. Anyway, people out but tell people tell people what it was. Tell people what it was the laundry. It was valued,

what it was, um, dirty laundry media from YouTube. Go look him up. He contacted me and said, Hey, you want to be on a panel with Kwame Brown? And I'm like, hell yeah. No, you went let me check my calendar. hos I did not okay. No, because I tried to make any requests. Sam so if anybody sends me a you know, you want to do this, but it was great for the profile of me and the show. Um, so went there had a great conversation around relationships and black

families. And yeah, you can check it out over there and on on YouTube somewhere. We'll figure out how to get to and who else was on this panel. It was Kwame brown me a dirty laundry media. And he had a couple of guests coming in and out during the conversation. Cool, but and you were all remote though. Okay. Oh, excellent. How many? How many people viewed it? I'm not sure I didn't go back and check the numbers yet. I'm been been super busy. But look at you mo

I love seeing this. This. This. This gives me the biggest joy of all. It's like seeing an entrepreneur. Like bounce out of the gate. Excellent. values coming from always the facts family is running on all cylinders. Uh, yeah. So in. Before we get into baggers, one say one quick thing. The biggest thing about this is people contact us about the last show. Oh, my goodness. Yeah, I didn't

realize I was mad. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, it was all worth it. Oh, I mean, because I remember at the end, they were talking about it. And I think even after the show you and I talked for a few minutes. And like, and you said, Well, if it helps even one person to the amount of email, I mean, I know we got a lot of

people copied us both on it, but I caught it. I got a couple, I think probably forwarded to you, but it must have been, like 1012 1520 people all with varying versions of it, you know, like I didn't really understand like, how, what was going on and I gave me a moment to reflect. And that was and I

tried to explain that why I was able to explain it to Tina. I said this was something this was like our last episode this was for men, you know, and we were doing something important for men and it hit home if that silent killer man that that you know that harboring those feelings you don't feel like you could talk to anybody about it. So yeah, I'm glad it could help and it was women came out they were mad as well. And anger is like their sex solid

deadly killer. So but with that said, I guess we will crank it up. Yeah, we got a little bag. Whoo. So we want to spin that wheel. Here we go. Full bag. He says back up. Don't want to get hurt. We'll have topics rounding around and goes where it stops no one knows most. No, of course because we put some great press together again the topic for Moe facts episode number 76. Is he luck. Luck, luck, we love you smell smell me. It's that time again. Just let people know that are some

potluck. We do these shows periodically, where we take three, four or five topics just today I got four. And we're gonna just cover him like short segments. So I guess we can go jump right into the first one and clip number two.

Hello, hello hello and welcome to the Whoopi Goldberg on Monday, the longtime co host returned to the show, following a two week suspension over comments she made about the Holocaust on January 31 episode, and although she didn't directly discuss the controversy will be did tell the cameras that we're going to keep having tough conversations and in part, because this is what we've been hired to do. And it's not always pretty, as I said, and it's not always as other

people would like to hear. But it is an honor to sit at this table and be able to have these conversations because they're important. They're important to us as a nation, and to us more so as a human entity. Now to refresh your memory will be received major backlash and criticism on social media over her controversial comments, which she later apologized for on Twitter, and on the show prior to being suspended by ABC news President Kim Godwin.

Now words matter and mine are no exception. I regret my comments, as I said, and I stand corrected. I also stand with the Jewish people, as they know and y'all know, because I've always done that. And after reflecting on her suspension from the show will be took time to take everyone who reached out to her while she was away. I want to thank everybody who reached out while I was away, and I'm telling you people reached out from places that

made me go Wait, wait was really okay. And it was amazing. And I listened to everything everybody had to say. And I was very grateful. And I hope it keeps all the important conversations happening. Oh, yeah. This is good. And I you know, I think that this is yeah, this is good to talk about this stuff. I want to know exactly what you think about all this? Where are you gonna get exactly what I think. As always, cuz this is one of those topics where you can't be honest about

on the mainstream media. And this is not going to get into personally what would be saying and why it was wrong. I'll touch on that. But I want to cover how the media how she was handled in the media, because we always talk about I mean, when she was away. Yes, yes. wish she was away away. How and how enlightened and delightful It was to be suspended. You know, she couldn't even that go to show you that. She couldn't even show that she was maybe angry or, or felt some kind of way

about being suspended. Like it was a total refresher like being at a spa. It was like, yeah, it was a total, like, joyous occasion. Yeah. So it was it was a religious experience, man. Right. So we'll talk about what she said and where she went wrong. And why she got up, but we're not going to go might normally. And I'm not gonna say normally 99% of the time, we usually go out and get the full clip and break it down that way.

But like I said, I want to get into the universe and the media narrative around it and also talk about the relationship between black people and Jewish people. So good. Maybe the last show, that's the third rail. No, seriously that that's the third rail, right? It is I say that in jest, but this may be you know, because you're not allowed to talk about it. And so we're gonna talk about why you're not allowed to talk about it. Yeah, I

mean, I know I know. Black podcasters who won't talk about it on podcast met one now so that we'll talk about it and that's the point of it. Being a newly free man talking Well, I've always been free man talking but that there's no nothing that you only answer to your Creator. That's it. You know, I mean, before you know they could try to get you about the job situation but that's no longer hanging over my head. But um, yeah, so we can we can really

talking about everything now. And that's, that's, that's the cool thing about being independent. So let's just go ahead and get into a clip number three, what the Goldberg has been suspended from the view for two weeks after making comments about the Holocaust during Monday's show where she said, the Holocaust is not about race,

adding that it was about two groups of white people. So as we mentioned in yesterday's show will be apologized on Tuesday's episode after taking to Twitter on Monday night, I said something that I feel a responsibility for not leaving unexamined because my words upset so many people, which was never my intention. And I understand why now. And for that I am deeply, deeply grateful, because the information I got was really helpful and helped me understand some different

things. And while discussing how a Tennessee School Board unanimously unanimously voted to remove a graphic novel about the Holocaust, I said that the Holocaust wasn't about race. And it was this incident about man's inhumanity to man. But it is indeed about race, because Hitler and the Nazis considered Jews to be an inferior race. Now, words matter and mine are no exception. I regret my comments, as I said, and I stand

corrected. I also stand with the Jewish people, as they know, and y'all know, because I've always done that. So when I became aware of this controversy, all I knew was, and I know that from from our conversations is row. That's the third rail. And I knew I knew that was much more third rail than I think any any of my friends know it. Except the Jewish ones, except the Jewish ones. But they, but they still don't understand exactly how it's the third rail for a das for black Americans.

And while hopefully, after this segment will, will be a little bit clearer. So I gotta make this make this crystal clear first, saying Jewish. It's like saying black and this aspect of Sure. There's multiple different variation of Jewish people, you have Messianic Jews, you have anti Zionist Jews, you have, you're saying you have just the same thing with black, you have generalization, yet you have found a black, you have the A Das, you have Hotep. So you got Hotep. So this doesn't represent

all Jews, or Jewish people. This represents the people that can make her come out and apologize. This is what we're talking about, and has that kind of power over what can be said and what can't be said. Now, I'm going to take this time to explain where we messed up it. And why and why it was taken away. It was from my perspective, when she loves Jewish people in with white people. That ruins the whole narrative. Yeah. Because with now how it works in the media

not gotta keep stressing this in the media. When you say Jewish is kind of like were white but not white. At the same time, you know, they they're kind of like passing my my Jewish friends do not consider themselves white. They don't I asked him to say, No, we're not white, but Jewish. It's that cut and dry. But that's why I say it's similar to passing exactly because in we you operate in day to day, you can move about force it feeling that no,

it's called Shape shifting mo it's called Shape systems. Just kidding. Well, what it is, is that when they go into business meetings, whatever they can be closeted. Now, here's my question about, is it a race? Is it a religion? You know, cuz it's a weird thing, because she had this thing called secular Jews, or secular Jewish people where they don't adhere to anything

religious, but they're Jewish by lineage. So you have that one thing, but like I said, we'll be where she messed up it by lumping them together, when people are critical, white people, quote, unquote, that lumps them in. No, no, no, no. My protective tape around me, you took that off, and everybody kept saying, You sure you want to do this? And what she was saying was, it was about race, how we look at race of color, the social sand the, what it called? The social construct, I

believe with race. Yeah. It was two white groups against each other. That's yeah, that's exactly what she said. Yeah, so that's where she messed up. Because when people are critical of white people, and you're saying the Jewish people can't edit the media can't doesn't fit in with the violent white supremacy extremists who want to kill Jews. You see, right, like Charlottesville, Charlottesville.

Correct. So um, so we're gonna get into the second part of this clip, and then after that, we'll get into some history of the relationship. Now Despite the apology ABC news President Kim Godwin announced with the suspension on Tuesday nights and this in a statement effective immediately I'm suspending Whoopi Goldberg for two weeks for her wrong and hurtful comments. While Whoopi has apologized. I've asked her to take time to reflect and

learn about the impact of her comments. The entire ABC news organization stands in solidarity with our Jewish colleagues, friends, family and communities. Yeah. Meanwhile, former co host Meghan McCain weighed in on Whoopi his comments, reading on Twitter. I hate commenting on my old employer because I have moved in every way a person can move on. That being said, I am an activist against anti semitism and it is a big part of my life. The growing threat is

real and violent and everywhere. I am heartbroken about what was said. Yeah, and here's how the view addressed will be his absence today. Take a look. Good morning, and welcome to the view. You all saw the news we'll be we'll be back here in two weeks. Okay. Tara said mayor has returned to guest co host. So let's get to hot topics, ladies.

It's the year it's muddy waters. I think at the end of the day, we have to educate elevate words that come to mind educate, elevate, will be has been around for a long time, I could appreciate that. She was humble about it, you know, the initial things and like a wrong and strong, you know, but I think it's also generational. And like she mentioned living in black skin. It's just a different experience. It doesn't negate the fact that, you know, it's okay to educate ourselves about

others. But we want that as black people learn about our plight. Ah, it's weird that I'm excited about this episode. I'm not quite sure what it is like, no, no. Because we love dancing on the third rail. Yeah, both of us. And it's not to be in, you know, cinerary or just, you know, to provoke. No, no, and nobody else wants to talk about it. Yeah, the problem. Yes, thank you. That's exactly why we do this. And Malcolm X commanded us to do that. So hello, would just doing we were

told, I did want to say that. One of our one of our really good friends. She's a public school teacher, high school, AP, in Austin. And she's, you know, we're always laughing because, you know, Hey, you are our favorite lib. tard. And she has she's like, Yes, I am. And, you know, and but she's so open and

so willing to discuss and she's Jewish. So the only thing I want to say is in the past, not just the past 24 months and of the pandemic, but also through most of the Trump presidency, she has been truly terrified of anti semitism, and they're coming to get all the Jews. And I mean, like, seriously beyond. Like, like, into hysterics, I've even talked her down a couple times. It's the same programming that we have, yes, we'll go through.

So I just want to say, although not Jewish myself, that I have paid very close attention to when you know, when friends of mine talk like that, I want to know and so I've had a lot of conversation. And so that, that just that fear that terror and so, you know, just to make it seem like we've done some homework on all sides. It's you have to humanize everybody, of course, in the whole, the whole conversation.

Right. And like I said, this is about more about how it plays out in the media and why certain people can't say certain things. Brianne, if you even noticed joy, Bihar was really short, with not being supportive. So I think this will be a good time to get into the strain relationship between black and Jewish Americans. Yes, the story of the relationship between the Jewish and black communities in America is complex with periods of

division, harmony, hostility, suspicion and apathy. What are the historical roots of both the cooperation and conflict we see between these two communities today? And how do we create a vision for a brighter future? In the late 18th and early 19th centuries, Jewish opinions on slavery were in line with their white neighbors as the politics of the US shifted. Northern Jews increasingly opposed slavery, while southern Jews continued to be sympathetic to slave ownership. Though there were

notable exceptions. These included Rabbi David Einhorn who in 1861 gave an anti slavery sermon, his congregation erupted in anger and the rabbi was forced to flee to the north. In the early 20th century, the Jewish community's demographics and opinions began to shift. Jews migrating from hostile countries settled in North Eastern American cities, where they encountered black southerners fleeing Jim Crow

laws and other forms of extreme racism. Coming from anti semitic Europe, many Jews recognized and drew attention to the parallels in the black and Jewish experience some Yiddish newspapers refer to violent attacks on black Americans like the Tulsa massacre as pilgrims. However, even with these positive developments division remained between black and Jewish Americans. Both groups were Lightning Rounds for other people's hatred. And many Jews who aspire to assimilate or just

make a living. We're afraid of associating too much with a group so openly mistreated. So where's this from? This is from unpack on YouTube. So I figure I'll use anything YouTube. So sure. Government approves right stamp is safe. But that is the thing that there has been this relationship between good mean, bad in the sense of slavery. And we want to talk about there was a significant amount of percentage of plantations owned by Jewish

Americans. And then when you go north, you had what we talked about in the last show these race riots, that was part of the clash as well. Right. Right. They are competing for the same resources. And you also had where this district did not distrust but um, you know, it was it was, yeah, it was, but it was seen as bad as to associate with, as I heard in that clip, literally, because of where the, where the black man stood with distrust on other sides, because it's like, Are you only

dealing with us because you we share the same problems. But once you're assimilate, right, then you're saying you're gonna turn your back on us? Right? What a distress comes, comes in between the strain relationship. So I think this is I mean, this we have five parts to this clip. So I think they did a really good job on pack of capturing what what it's like between it, and we could see some of the things that still exist to this day. So if you want to go ahead and get into number six, we can.

This distance remained until the 1930s, when the rise of the Nazi Party in Germany paralleled an increase in anti semitism in the US fearful and in need of allies, Jewish Americans sought support and the black community was one of the few to join their cause. Black and Jewish success began working together to challenge employment and housing discrimination, combat racial and religious violence and fight for inclusion in social and professional spheres. In the years following the Second World

War. The bond between the communities group Jews made up at least 30% of non Black Freedom Riders risking arrest and violence for black solidarity. Jewish lawyers battled Jim Crow laws, while black organizations like the NAACP, whose founders included Jews supported the creation of

the State of Israel. Black and Jewish Americans, along with other minorities led the effort to desegregate Medical Association's southern universities, businesses and community activities while working to introduce social

programs for the benefit of all members of society. While southern Jewish support for segregation dwindled, the community was still torn over how to respond, Southern Jews faced pressure from their northern counterparts to condemn segregation, but they feared that making official statements against segregation would result in retribution from their white neighbors. Others argued that the community need not make official statements about a topic that didn't directly

relate to the Jewish community. As a result, some southern Jewish institutions withdrew their support for National Jewish organizations that came out publicly against segregation. Hmm, I didn't know about this divide No, no at all. In for people who don't know what's going on. The narrative is black people are hand in hand with Jewish people. And they share the same plight. And they're all on the same on the same on board with the same struggle. One thing is the

NAACP. But we pointed out on the show I have ever seen. And I guess you agree, because I've laid it out so clear that even the groups like NAACP were started or went or ran by Jewish people. And what it does is this is and from my perspective, black people are on the bottom. And so anytime the bottom can be raised up and given certain privileges, everybody above that is going to receive a bump. It's kind of like the all time all

rising tide boats, right? So if you raise black people up, then we're going to enjoy that and you can't treat us any worse than black people. So black people can be treated, treated humanely, then that benefits Jewish Americans. That's kind of how the relationship goes. But the problem is, if we were hand in hand, as this kind of illustrated here, why don't you see the same amount of success? Why don't you see the same amount of Even just like the loyalty being reciprocated, why

don't you see that? Why don't you see joy Bihar and go into the office to say, No, you can't fire me, you can't suspend Whoopi, she's an ally. Because if the shoe was on the other foot and I have proof of this, but if the shoe was on the other foot would be we're going office. It's a no you can't suspend joy. She's an ally. That and I think that's probably also who will be is enjoy Bay heart. It just seems like a two faced person regardless. But um,

yeah, I mean, I, I think that she chose the job. And she doesn't feel like she has the power to do that in this situation. i This is a reoccurring thing. Mm hmm. Where it's not that love is not reciprocated, sure. So that's what causes the distrust. And then they also do this weird thing where even in this package that we have here it was the North people that were good and South people that were back, well, of course has that you see

the same thing here? Um, so that's, so this is really just a subplot of the overall north south racial divide. Correct. So that's, that's the thing. It's just, well, that's good to know. I mean, you don't you don't feel the love? Sure, feel the love coming back. And, um, but that started a long time ago, this love not coming back. But it seems like it's always been that way. Well, I'll say this from my studies. And I could be wrong.

I'm saying, but from my understanding of my studies, and my living this interesting experience, I'm basically Jewish people were the blue light for black people before they created the blu ray. Ah, seriously, that was a you know, um, you know, we'll keep them in line and that kind of thing. Interesting. And that's kind of how their game their way up the ladder. Well, okay, so my, the only experience I have with that, which is a, which would immediately be deemed an anti semitic trope.

But we both agree, we're going to dance on the rail. But I literally saw in the music industry, this dynamic play out all the time, particularly with black artists, right up to Michael Jackson, by the way, I know firsthand, like, shut up. You can't go to the bathroom, stay in the limo. And that's the thing. And that's where it really plays out in entertainment. Yes, in entertainment, which is what we're dealing with. With Whoopi. That's exactly it.

That's why I say let's focus on the media. And we can bring in entertainment as well, because anytime I'll give you a sample, when Bill Maher gets into trouble with black people, he'll bring a black person Oh, yeah, I'm a black person gets in trouble or say anything anti semitic. You can't find anybody around to come along and put an arm around and say, Hey, he's cool. He's cool. Alright, and then he even goes in further than that. Because if you have any association with anybody

deemed problematic, you're done. He Farah Khan, Farah Khan is the litmus test to say, Oh, well, you've he could be simpler. Or you took a picture with fair comment your arm around him. You're saying I apologize now. Right? Are you you're you won't be able to work in this town kind of thing. And I'm just saying I'm channeling what? What has failed and seen. Now I'll

say this. I have no problem with the music industry. The reason why is if you claim yourself a man, a fully autonomous man, when you sign a contract, you should know what's in that contract. Yeah. So I don't I don't know. Nobody can get you. Oh, I got God. No, you didn't get God you didn't read? You know, so if you can't have it both ways, you can't and that's gonna be a forewarning. That's gonna be a weaved into this whole episode, even though it's a potluck that you can't say I'm

an autonomous person. And then say somebody's got you. Yeah, you feel I'm saying either you visit with that person or know what you're signing on to do business. But this is as old as as the music business as them today's modern music business itself. We are going back to here so here's a Cadillac. Oh, well, do you want me right into it? But Cadillac records is

that great. Have you ever seen that movie? Of course, okay. So Cadillac records, so the whole thing Mary's they took payment in other forms, Cadillac closed those kinds of things, and then felt like they were done wrong. It's like, No, you should have known what was in your, in your contract. So for myself, always

take the Howlin Wolf approach. Pay me what you owe me. It was I saw I won't Here's the I don't want anything else but what you owe me because there may be some strings attached that comes along with that down the line. People don't know, Howlin Wolf, you're saying he was he was very independent in that way in that movie where he went take cars or clothes and nothing like that he

was just like, whatever you owe me pay me. Yep. And that's the that's kind of how I actually take part of that when I do business as well is like, I don't want anything other than what we agreed upon. But it but to be fair, that was all learning grounds. So the people who were on the other side of the equation they have centuries of, if not more, of trade and business and understanding. And at that time that the near the talented black

artists didn't have that. And so, you know, the only way to learn sometimes is to go through the is to go through the crap now that people can't look back and say, Hmm, hold on a second. What can I learn from this? That's really inexcusable, but there's a lot who would completely get it out of it. And I think most of today's the modern hip hoppers, I think they control a lot more than it used to be. No, no, Kanye doesn't know cuz he said it. Remember he said, and I don't know if you

remember what he said. They signed me to deal on the 256 page contract. Right now. I'm saying I know I understand. But he's been moving for he's he's broken away from that now, hasn't he? Yes. Well, I mean, the fact that he got I'm saying, but then until he got got, yeah, his mind. I'm just thinking in his mind. And that's why I appreciate Kanye, because he understands I signed the contract. He didn't blame anybody. Right. But it was on entertainment. Let me just bring

up one point in the Superbowl since the newsstand. That's where yeah, yes, we know that they have fleas I saw so with the Super Bowl. I'm gonna say it from the side. Notice conservatives, they were got kind of bent out of shape about the Super Bowls. And it was I've heard terms like pornographic. Um, it was racial baiting that kind of thing. The halftime show specifically. Specifically, excuse me, let me for people to understand me not

going on about the suepo. But that was a big deal. Let me fill people in. So the Super Bowl Halftime Show was supposed to be a form of reparations are atonement for the ill doings of the NFL. Yeah, this was why they hired Jay Z's Roc a fella to do the halftime shows and see we love black people. Exactly. But when they when it comes out and says, oh, when people come out and are critical of it, they don't take it to the

record labels. They didn't go to Jimmy IV. To Interscope, no. Jay, it's like so why would you argue and fight and blame the workers? Because there's all Snoop and Dre and all that where they work? I mean, people get upset about or not, and Jay Z was just a glorified prom event planner. Yeah, you weren't, they weren't gonna let you get any ownership. But my point is, the slings and arrows start with the workers ever goes to the they

never blame their source. Yeah, that's not I think the main summoner Redfield, you know, Jimmy IV, all these people, they never get any blame for the the problematic or the perceived problematic nature of hip hop. It always stops to the arts, but like, when you stop it at the funding data, you wouldn't have these people. Right, and so I just guess that's a great illustration of Jamie Ivey reaps all the benefits when he gets none of the blame, because he lets his workers take the money.

Right, but Dre does did get a piece of ownership in that in that whole apple deal on everything with beats. No, he did. But I'm just saying he was out there worked when I mean by worker is on the stage. Yeah. You know, saying that that part of it. I didn't hear anybody critical of the Superbowl. No, of course not. I get to the take it to the top. But you also would never just hear that in the mainstream

narrative. That's just not going to be done. So even if someone could, because it's career suicide, they know it. So it's like, we're like we're Cannon Fodder at the end of the day. That's how we proceed. Listen, listen, we gave you Eminem. Can't you be happy? You got a white guy? All right. With him begging me to. He was like he was. Alright, Avenue. You're the only way I can take a knee. All right. What was interesting is that Tina and I are watching and Tina's like,

Oh, she's singing along. You know, she's white girl, although she's half Mexican. And she's like, Yeah, this wow, what a great halftime show. And then, later, she's like, looking at Twitter. She's like, what does everyone What happened here, she she didn't get it. She just loved it. He thought it was a great show. She enjoyed it thoroughly. It was a great production. But that'll be another show for another day. I don't want to. I don't want to carry too long.

It's just the fact that one and I'm gonna show you how this is. Once again, I don't blame anybody that whenever you sign on a contract, which is what you get whatever deal you make, that's what you get. I don't blame anybody for anything. But I want to just show how power works. Yeah, there's no way Jewish Americans will see. Beth Mettler, you were saying before me at the Super Super Bowl Halftime Show was a win, actually. It's like, Oh, we got we got to halftime, right? It's

like, okay, we need about three owners now. Roster spots and then we can call it even about what you take. And maybe maybe one or two more coaching spots that would be kind of even I know that right? Because we want we want tangibles. We want something not some performative something that just looks you know looks good on the surface. We want actual institutional change. So I say

all that to say pay attention. You know what? emulate the greatest Ross will say you know, you copy what works it best house powers achieved and maintained. Learn from it. And I don't, I'm not a hater. I don't hate anything. As far as that, you know, if it's a win, it's a win. But I'm just saying to the people that are allowed themselves to be cannon fodder, stop being cannon fodder. So I guess we we kind of hung on that one a little long. So I guess we can go and jump into number seven.

The growing northern Jewish population did not share the concerns of their southern counterparts iconic photos of Rabbi Abraham Joshua Heschel marching alongside the Reverend Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. encapsulates the best of the black Jewish relationship at the time, often called the golden period between the two communities. Rabbi Joachim prince, who devoted much of his life to the American Civil Rights Movement, spoke just before MLK took the podium in DC

to deliver his famous I Have a Dream speech. Black and Jewish Americans continued the fight for civil rights during the 1964 Freedom Summer project in Mississippi, where Jewish activists joined others helping register black voters and join protests in front of courthouses. In June 1964, James Chaney, Michael Schwerner and Andrew Goodman were abducted and

murdered for their fight for equal voting rights. The ensuing outraged pushed Lyndon Johnson to sign the Civil Rights Act The following month, while Jews still face discrimination in the 1960s. The ability for many Jews to pass as White still set them apart from their black peers. Jews had relatively greater access to education and finances, giving them more class

mobility. These opportunities, combined, in some part with the healthy bonds between the communities enabled Jews to open businesses and buy property in predominantly black areas, a degree of coexistence that sowed the seeds of discord. A Jew was now their boss, their landlord or their creditor playing into age old anti semitic tropes. Ah, this is that was great stuff. I didn't know about the the people who were murderers it that was the spark for the Civil Rights Act.

Yes. Now we've talked about the last show. And these shows are set up in a way. So yes, Professor. Yes, we know your curriculum is very impressive. Yes, you've always predict the whoopee thing. I'm just saying that it's supposed to be that way. That's exactly that's exactly what we want. So why is it the all the 4000 lynchings that happened? Post slavery, that wasn't enough. But you're saying 3g Jewish people? We got to do now. And then what I'm saying? Yeah, I want to make

this very clear. This is not about one group or the other group because I bring the same heat and intensity of feminism. Yeah, how I'm saying black women signed on with him and got the short end of the stick. But it's not it's also giving me insight into Jewish Americans inside I didn't have, right that's the whole that's why I want to so same thing. When you when we come to the table and have these conversations, we can actually understand and say, hey, that's

why you feel that way. You're saying okay, Seek first to understand then to be understood. It's like, oh, now I get why. And you feel that way. And that's why I said they were the Boulais before the Boulay because they aren't all the shops, they are all that mean in the net black neighborhoods, the shops do real estate, that kind of thing. And they had this thing where not all but it was common, where you would rent a

fit. We forget what it's called. But basically, you buy a house but it wasn't a more So if you missed one payment, they could take your house from our view, we like one payment, they could take your house for like rent to buy or something kind of similar that, you know, you lose your deposit base, or whatever you put in, you lose it, and they would turn around and sell the house. So I'm just saying this is what built into that tension.

Yeah, that's the distrust right there. And again, you, you you were you were you were you were God by the Jewish man was a shitty contract that you didn't read? No, but you didn't. We weren't God, because we didn't read it. Understand it? Yes. This is what it's about talking about being a man when you're a man or autonomous. I can read like you

can read. I can do math, like you can do math. If I didn't read that contract, just like what your terms and services on your apps, yeah, what you said, Well, you just scroll down to the bottom and check. And they come up to you, like, years from now, like you saw just your first kid. You're the humans human centipede. That's, that's the thing, like, and that's why I carry myself like I do, because this feeds on the last show of, you can't be a

victim. You know, that's why I rally so hard against victimhood, because when you say you're a victim, then you're saying you need help, right? Or you need you're saying or you need and I know some I can read people's microphylla right now they're saying, but mo your for atonement? No, no, no, no. Let me make clear what I'm talking about. Tom, let me make this clear. First of all about atonement. I'm saying I'm not voting for anybody until you have something for me. I don't

want anything from you. I'm not gonna I'm not begging you for anything. But when you want something for me, we're gonna have a transaction. See how that works. It's not all please leafleting. That's why I want to get away from that word reparations. Because it lends to repair. Oh, I need you to fix me, please fix me, blow. I have something that you want, called a vote. And you have something I want. Called money. Alright, so we can have a fair exchange. But it's not that I want you to fix

me, then I'm a victim. So I just want to make that very clear. Yep. All right. Oh, sorry. No, no, that's actually the most succinct you've ever said it. I think it's, it's so obvious. And by the way, it's the way votes this way it works all over the world. That's how business works. Now, we ain't no fame, no friends, and all we know, I'm gonna get you on the back end that can No I'll make you whole bro. Don't worry.

We're gonna need to see something for it. So I guess we can go and get number eight now. Throughout the 1970s and 80s. The bonds between the Jewish and black communities strained under growing racial tensions in urban America. Atlanta's first Jewish Mayor employed racist rhetoric in his reelection campaign against black challenger may NAR

Jackson. In 1984 presidential hopeful Jesse Jackson made a number of anti semitic comments referring to Jews as Jaime's the growth and visibility of the anti semitic Nation of Islam didn't help matters as the Israeli Palestinian conflict drew greater international attention division between the communities mounted as Palestinians were increasingly seen as people of color with Jews seen as white oppressors.

And while many in both communities continue to cherish the golden period of the 50s and 60s, others began to portray Jewish support for civil rights as paternalistic and therefore just another form of racism. Tension seem to come to a climax in the 1991 Crown Heights riots erupted after a Hasidic man accidentally veered his car onto a sidewalk, killing seven year old Gavin Kato, the next day in retaliation. 29 year old Yankel Rosenbaum was stabbed and beaten by a group of black men.

Rosenbaum died a few hours later from his wounds over the next three days. Rioters looted stores and damaged Jewish property. The violence of the Crown Heights riots touched a nerve for some the pain mistrust and anger continues to this day. I was in New York at the time and I was doing the morning show

on z 100. When this went down, it was it was an intense time and a lot of the leadership that we so so called leadership we have now in the black community got caught up in that this error and saying things like Jesse Jackson said Al Sharpton had his MO Jonas amazing now that they're still allowed to have leadership and maybe that's how they're co opted and compromised. Just give me a thought for a minute. Yeah, well, you know, when it comes to Al Sharpton you know

it's it's what he has. He's like a protected man. You know, he I read that he actually had he blessed the Comcast NBC merger that that they had some racial diversity equity. issues in the merger the SEC wouldn't approve it until his coalition network, whatever his thing is, until they'd blessed it and probably Jesse Jackson as well. And then Sharpton got his MSNBC show like six months later. Right. And that's my point is that that's the gas and brakes

right now. It's the gas or we can use him, you know, or he has if he has the ability to cause them strife. Yeah. But they're not going to have him be able to completely leverage them. Oh, never No, no, you remember our don't forget the, you know, the those those statements that you made up in Harlem, but not the same. Same thing with Jesse Jackson, you know, when they really need to bring you in and rein you in. It's like, Hey, let me make Jesse, let me talk to you for a minute. I remember

that tape. And it's the same way now. It's like, hey, who went fill in the blank? You remember you was at Farah Khan's festival? Yeah, fair Khan's to go to now. He's the ne ne but he's so toxic. And we've seen this with Tamika Mallory that she had to go on. They actually put her down to the BIA who's Tamika Mallory. She's the one. She's one. She is the she's the heir apparent of Al Sharpton. I mean, tow. Ah, yes. We. He sent me a YouTube of her the other day.

Right? Yeah. So she she she's the heir apparent, but also, um, she had gotten in trouble with Linda Sarsour. I think it's how you pronounce her name? Yeah, yeah. Democratic socialists No, wait. Yes. Isn't she the one that's trying to infiltrate with the DSA with the ah, she was she was big on the anti pattern of the pro Palestine stuff. Yes. I think she's a Muslim. She is yes. Yeah. We once again goes back to with the whole Jewish thing is your

are your race or religion? Because when we talk about Muslims, it's like, Nah, um, I think it's Arab. I don't want to offend anybody. But I think we you're from that region of the world because Middle Eastern, you're where you are from the area, but you are not of the faith. Is there a distinction? Yeah. Have that with the Jewish situation? To Mika's parents were founding members of sharpens National

Action Network, correct? No. So that's what I'm saying her association with a with Farah Khan, is her tomorrow mechanism. Right, right, of course. Because anytime we need to get you back in line we can use Hey, you remember, we found this picture of Tamika Mallory with farecard it just popped up all of a sudden, interesting. I was even though it's 10 years old. I know. Let's get that server circulating on the internet again. Oh, yes. So

it's interesting. I'm looking forward now if it's on YouTube, I don't think so. Oh, they'll scrub it because they need it. They can't. They gotta drop the one it's hot. Unpack five. More recently, old wounds were reopened when voices within movements like Black Lives Matter and the Women's March made anti semitic and anti Zionist remarks in 2019 extremist connected to the Black Hebrew Israelite movement were responsible for the murder of four people including two Jews

at a Jersey City synagogue and kosher supermarket. For some these are simply isolated incidents. For others. This violence points to a broader, unacknowledged anti semitism reflected in anti Defamation League polls that find black Americans are significantly more likely than white Americans to

accept anti semitic stereotypes. Despite these ongoing tensions, the communities continue to find common ground a shared sense of fear and urgency after the 2017 unite the right rally in Charlottesville, alarmed both communities and triggered a rise in collaboration between some Jewish and black organizers and activists in 2019. The late John Lewis, along with congressional representatives formed the Bipartisan Congressional Caucus on black Jewish relations, which now consists of 55 members.

Today's efforts at cooperation always fall under the shadow cast by the traumas of racism and anti semitism, pain and mistrust. But there is tremendous hope. One year after the Jersey City murders, numbers of both communities say the violence has forced them to leave their respective bubbles and confront difficult issues together a model relevant well

beyond Jersey City. As Pamela Johnson of the Jersey City anti violence coalition Movement said we may not have always understood each other, but we are all in this together. Hmm. I wonder if there's a way out. Sit down and have a conversation that's about it. Right? And if they My point is this we're not talking about all on both sides. We're talking about because there's Messianic Jews, there's

anti Zionist Jewish people. Yeah, cuz they get just as much more smoke, because they're seen as the quote unquote, sellout of their group. It's like, I'm saying, how are you going to go again? It's, it's a form of colorism.

Yeah. So let me let me let me we said a couple of things. We said in that clip, one, that the Charlottesville thing was the maybe be the source of the renewed anxiety that you spoke to before this, your friend was feeling it because it's the right propaganda in my control, and he spells work is to say, it works like, Hey, you can't you can't say it doesn't work. But the way you the way you defuse it is you have to unpack that conversation. Now. We talked about the money and getting

caught and that kind of thing. But there's another thing that we haven't talked about yet. And it's about who's the real juice. Mm hmm. Who's the real Jewish people? Because and that's why they brought up these Black Hebrew Israelites group. Yeah, that was that was on my list. Yes. So so what we got it. You have black people, some black people that believe that we are the chosen people, just by what is written in the Bible. You look at the curse of Deuteronomy 28.

Like, yep, yep. Yep. Yep, that sounds like this. Oh, I'll have to read that. Now. Let's hold on a second. Dude, your nominee, what? Deuteronomy 28. So it goes down the curses of the chosen people. And when you look at some of that stuff in there, it's like, Hmm, that's very interesting. And then like I said, we all people do this even in China, you know, saying they say Christ is Chinese. They show Christ as Chinese or Asian. Interesting,

that kind of thing. So you have this going on. But this is another real thing of a significant number of black people think Jesus is black and yeah, shrinks did that makes the Jewish people have to be black? Just by association, right? Oh, it's highly unlikely Jesus was a white guy. That doesn't seem very, very logical. That's that's the issue of it. So it's like, well, hold on.

Now, this doesn't make any sense. But my point is this. So I noticed on YouTube, they let these Black Hebrew Israelites and I'm not talking about the brother cuz I got some friends that are black, Hebrew Israelites. So I'm not talking about them. I'm talking about the ones that stand on the corner of New York and DC and these places, and that year, the most vile is racist. I'm just crazy stuff. But you too, don't take them off. It's like, Hold on. Wait, wait a minute. Wait a

minute. You you get removed for this, like this might get removed? I mean, I'm just I'm I'm thinking about not even posting. This is how it really is. Seriously, we're just letting people know if you don't see it on us. Yeah, well, I kind of I kind of want to know if it gets taken down. That would be highly surprising. But you know, it wouldn't be surprising because that's what I'm saying. That's YouTube's policy. It's like we have a no anti semitism

policy. But yet and still, you have these Black Hebrew Israelites. It's like a caricature of them. They stand on the corner and they're allowed to yell all these crazy names, but they don't get taken down. So it's like is this working for your benefit? But who are they who are they yelling against black people Jewish know what white people in general but they are saying they go at Jewish people even harder, but nobody takes them now they understand like in but the point

is just take it from YouTube for a minute. They're in like Times Square Washington DC, just standing on the street corner. Yeah, I'm doing this and it's like how are you? I have to think is this beneficial to you're saying to submit see me the fact that you know saying this, this this Hey, is this out here? Right you know is used for their their advantage? Because I just find it weird what they do take now and they leave that up?

I'm just just strange. It's a strange just the judge doesn't help the Brotherhood come together thing any? No. And what it does is it makes everybody saying say they subscribe to you know, saying black people being the people or the book or the Bible. My Oh, yeah, he's one of them. Hate for people. It was just like with anything like black say, I'll give you I'll give you a great parallel. White nationalist, right. Are black nationalists. Just say you're a black

nationalist. It's like, oh, you're one of those like your right wing white nationalists but just black. Right? It's like, but we clearly stand in Malcolm Max was a black nationalist meaning in the definition he says, you know, saying we need to create our own things. We need to have our own things. But you see by association, you can be demonized. Yes, of course. So I'm just wondering why they're allowed to be left up there on YouTube. And they're never taken

down an issue. I find that to be convenient. As I say, it's it's total bullshit. If you want to make the world a better place. Yes. Yeah. As far as saying this, this lane. It's lame, obviously. Yeah. So that's the history of it. And like I said, that's just This is an outrage, we will not have these black Israelites getting away with it. What they're saying anybody, any Israelites, whatever, say anybody that says that they're willing to their chosen people

are like him right now. And they may need to be dealt with in the same way they do. They did it. I'm saying we've seen it done with the Muslims, by everybody. This Muslim is like a part of Taliban, you know, it's like, what, how do you make that? Right? But you know, so just I just want to be clear, my fix is I don't give a crap what YouTube does, the more stupid they are, the better and people will eventually wind up in other

places that just are fair and work better. So yes, I'm not I'm not I'm not trying to get anyone to fix anything with YouTube screw. No, but I care. Because if someone says that they're believe that they're the chosen people, and you go on YouTube and look it up. It's like, oh, you're then you come back, huh? You're in a hate group? That kind of thing. So yeah, that's that's why I have a problem with it. Because it's just pushing is

that actually, there is this corporate funded hate? And so that's why we need to get rid of YouTube you're saying and find better things to do? Yes. And in the meantime, we're just Amala eyeballs so we had to siphon off as many people on before Sam before we leave, got my man TT say and I always message saying, slogan up with like, basically, we don't want to go big on YouTube. We want to grow big enough to be independent of YouTube. Hey, who's DD media? Oh, yeah, he's, yeah. Oh, yeah.

So one of these days, one of these days I got to hang out with you. Eclass TD media. That's what the converse is about. He's got he's been in the converse. That's what we do over there. You're saying we we hang out. Now, I mean, like really hang out? Well, I've never really hung out with TV. This is a YouTube friend. Oh, but he's a he's a real friend at the same time, but ah, that's not a safe space for me. Mo I'm good here. I'm good here with you. This is my safe space right here. All right.

I want to show now is this is when J Jor. Beyhadh. got called out for wearing blackface? Oh, yeah. Do you remember that? Of course, of course. So I want to show you the lack of reciprocation. Reciprocity, that's the term? Yeah. We're paying. You're saying one hand washes the other. Right. Right. You're saying so I don't think Joy got kicked off the view from you're saying two weeks or anytime free? No. At that time, the capital offense of wearing blackface I mean, people were

getting counseled left and right. But somehow she was able to, you know, weather the storm. But not only weathered that storm, I want you to pay attention to how the other people, specifically the black people on the panel, the view came to her defense over the black face issue. Number. This joy speaking, Joy. Yeah, paraded around in black face not too long ago. Come on, Joe. I don't think you should be. I mean, come on Kim. Excuse me, I have to say something to you.

He told Bob Woodward, that it was a very serious issue. And it's airborne, and that it was terrible. And then he went out and told the American people don't wear masks. It's all going to go away. You have to put some blame on your president. And I'm sorry. You're putting it on something extraneous here. Talk to the point, please. Is this this joy speaking? Joy? Yeah, read it around in blackface not too long ago. Come on, Joe. I don't think you should be asking questions.

I mean, the black community had my back. They know that that's not he has my own mind. He has your back. The black community has your community design for you. Stop right there. I want people to pay attention to Joyce a sunny teller. Like she was saying like her attack doll like oh yeah, I are Sunny. So just getting back up a little bit. So people can hear I just want to kind of hard to hear so what I'm saying so people can click Really we hear what's going on.

Come on, Joe. I don't think you should be asking questions. I mean, the black community had my back. They know that that's not he has my homage out. Loud he has your back. The black community has your back. A community design for you, black. Vote for you what it was during Sunday. Can I speak? What are you living during a special? Well, we were still under lockdown. People Sunni, which is also a lawyer, which makes it even better, which Sunni Why didn't Sunni come to would be his defense.

That's her sister. Right? What I'm saying is what you know why? Because Sonny's husband is Jewish. Oh, really? No. Oh, yes. So what I'm saying is, why don't these people go? You hear how they roll for joy? Yeah, Cam classic. Who are saying it was pretty damn black. Right. So you hear Oh, really? Wow, they got your back. Oh, wow. Sonny had no problem jumping all over Kim. on George's behalf. But Why didn't these same people go into things

ABC office and say, You know what? We're gonna make a stink if you get rid of what? Because that's our sister. That's our view, sister. Right. And you didn't know that? What was that it? So I can a comes back to what we said before I even though I'm not a fan of most of the people we've been playing clips of. I don't think they're inherently evil, racist, horrible people. They are cowards. And they're cowards because of they know where the control is. That's my point. Yes,

I know. That's, that's why I'm, that's why I'm saying and then that is the most anti semitic trope you can ever come up with. And I've been punished for it in mainstream for saying, well, here's what I'm seeing. And that's why it can never be discussed. But you know, same school teacher, I talked to her about this that way. She says, oh, yeah, absolutely. Of course. It's like, you can discuss it with real friends. But I don't think that really is discussed in public, this is not

happening. It doesn't happen except here now. And you can have these private conversations, that's fine. But with like, you have to tow a line. And like, say, I'm not holding that against them, or anybody when you know, if you want, if that's the kind of power that you will find. But at the same time, when Joy got caught out for black face, and we're seeing black faces a bad thing, there's no exception

given joy. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. Sonny and Whoopi was supposed to go in her dressing room, like a dorm, say, you know, the call? Oh, there's a you got to sit now for a week or two. I mean, that's just, you know, you know how it goes. But you see, it's not about I don't want to take power away from anybody. What I want to do is if that was power, power operates and looks like we're, you're saying you can say, you know, this is bad for our brand. You know, that's, that's not gonna fly. That's

just like gone. Let's go back to subo for a minute. If the majority of black people say, You know what? We have a gangster rappers on a Super Bowl. With turkeys. Not a good look for us. You know, I mean, it's not it's not a net song when, you know, and then they know we're not gonna do it. If I may say, Yes, I love the short stout dancers a lot. Just carry like the big like, like a big way I pay attention. That's, um, I'm just saying it's something about the moves. I

mean, I'm an entertainment guy. Right? I can talk. I can totally remove myself from all the bullshit. I'm like, shit. Yeah, that's good. I mean, I'm right down to chubby 50 cent hanging upside down like surprising, like that move. You know, it's like I see it for what it is I sometimes you just can't read too much into it. But that's not the world we live in. And I totally get what you're saying. I told you it's not it's not about trying to take away shut

silence people or anything like that. I'm just saying you were all about fair. If it's fair for one group to do this, it'd be should be fair for all groups to do this. And especially if we're allies. Yeah, that's the thing. If we're allies, then it needs to be you know, an allegiance a real allegiance. Yeah. Right. So I got another clip here saying from this is another. Another pro. I don't know who it was. I can't find out who was talking. Maybe you can catch this catch his voice.

But it's just not Kim. But this is another guy called Bob. Joy out and listen to the response to the panel. We don't want to have The country lives. We've all we've all we've all done things that we regret. I mean, if we're talking about bringing the discourse to joy you've worn blackface won't be on site and Roman Polanski it wasn't Rape Rape when he raped a child

so let's talk about why you want to bring this up. The question came up I did not allow blackface please she was not in blackface I listened being black I recognize blackface this I can say in praise of naturally curly hair. They say that it's making a comeback. We've always had curly statement Oh, picture now I know joy. I was so good. I was it was a Halloween party. I went as a beautiful African woman. Oh, yeah, black but that's the whole point that was made you

have tanning lotion on makeup. That was a little bit my actual hands. If I may analyze this was my MO facts with Adam curry learnings over the past 75 episodes. I would say the violation here is the other rail you're not supposed to touch which is black hair. I would say that was probably equally as offensive as, as the so called black face episode. And that was something I would never talk about on the show. No, I mean, we we have balls, but we're not stupid, right?

ain't stupid. But no, you hear the tone of the difference. Now if it was somebody else, a politician of another ilk or somebody or just saying if it was Meghan McCain that had the the black face on it, we know it would it wouldn't have been laughed off. No, he wouldn't have been you know, he wouldn't be joy. Are you? Are you black? Black face? And then for her even saying that? No, I didn't wear a black face only wore dark

makeup there portray myself as an African princess. That's not black face? Not at all. When do we start giving these passes? And just to show you this is not about just this particular group. I feel the same way about the Democratic Party with the governor and the former governor down in image in Virginia in my home state. He got he got a pass on let me get. I don't think I ever told this doesn't ever tell you their story. Now could tell that don't

work there no more. Did I ever tell you the story of the former governor of Virginia? I don't think so. Okay, so Jim, I'll make it very quick. So we're coming from the lunch room. Me and my wife, me and one of my friends. I won't say his name because he still works there. And we're coming down the hall and we see these big black guy in a suit. And what the hell's going on? You're saying like he's walking down the hallway. And we're like you're saying and then we noticed he had an

earpiece? And we're like, Hold on Wait, who's here? Because normally went to my politician or to my comms important current VIP comes to the site. They like to let everybody know. Yeah, I mean, not only that, but roll out the red carpet. Yeah, same and standard attention. Yeah. Right. So here comes this secret security guy coming down the hallway. And right behind him. Here comes the governor. They had to sneak him in, because of the heat from the blackface thing for him to see the new building.

Oh, wow. Holy crap. Course. How it works. It's like, he's like, not only I want to take general you know, just be out in the general population. I just want to come see, you know, the billion dollar addition you have going on and get up out of here because I might have some it wasn't necessarily of course you have you. I'm sure your company was extremely diverse. So that made me even worse. Yeah. Oh, my God, what's the coward power?

Is I'm just showing you how all these things are strategic strategically done to say, hey, you know, I got to come in through the back door. Yeah. My black face made me come to the back door. So I guess he had a little bit of experience of being black. Well, you know, and I believe and I believe that's because they in their heart truly believe they are not racist. And at the time when that occurred for this governor or when Joy did it, and it could have been yesterday could have been two

two years ago. They still believe it was they had no racist bone in their in their body and and therefore it wasn't racist that that's the whole sick thing. Once again, I'm not talking about them. I'm talking about the double standard or Whoopi Goldberg Of course, and and Sonny Halston and those people, I know, blackface is offensive. It's offensive. Like that same thing with anti semitism. They don't look at the party affiliation. No, it's like it's

cut and dry. Yeah. Here's the here's the here's the no nose. And we don't care who does it. If you do it you're gonna have to pay with us is like, Well, you did this now. Turn over the page and see see the conditions? Oh, yeah. Let me let me see your cookout, pass. cookout? You're good now? You personally. Year, dude, your comedian you don't even know it? You don't even know it. That's funny. Good riff. Appreciate it. But that's what frustrates me about not about

the outside groups. It's the double standards inside the group church, because that weekend, I appreciate how they roll. Cuz it's like, your own code. If you ain't on code. Yeah, shut up. They'll cancel their own. We don't care. Yeah. So I'm talking about but I'm sorry. But isn't that just exactly it? Isn't it then if you know, black America's got to say hey, we're on cut, you know, we got to have you on code to you don't do something right. And they they got to cancel too hard.

And for the most part we are but the fact is they can roll out that this is why the Boulay is so dangerous. It's not the people on the ground. It's not the boots on the ground is cosine. And this is the bigger always roll out a Blu ray member to say, oh, no, no, like night joy. Sunny Halston, Brian, I get that for you joy. Like she put the put her hands in our pockets like whistle didn't look the other way. It's like a joy. You

know your own? Yes. I can't I can't step in. I. So that's my whole point is is that it's not it's not a fair exchange. But but it now do you feel this is specifically in the media, predominantly in the media? Or is it the same across the board in any organizational structure business? Otherwise? I can't tell you because I have never been in these boardrooms saying, Oh, maybe corporations and those kind of things. I can

only tell you what plays out in the public. So I can't that's why I say if I if I answered that question, I didn't know that I would actually be participating. Right? And you're saying, uh, and stereotypes right? To say, Oh, yes. It's the banks. And you know, and I'm not saying nothing. You only discredit yourself, when you say, oh, it's the Jews. No, no, this specific point out and like, that's why I'm being very, I'm not being very careful here. Out of fear. I'm being very

careful here to be precise. So we can highlight the issue. You know, because a lot of times people just jump straight to the it's the Jews and it's like, come on, first of all, that's offensive to the people that's on the ground and pro the Jews. They're Jewish people that are pro Can you say Jews? I don't know. But if Yeah, I think you can. Okay, I'm just making sure on this on this show. No, come on Mo and on this show we say blacks gays, Jews, whites, it's fine.

I don't know what's acceptable cuz I don't don't do everything everything and sharing everything and nothing is acceptable. You can't, no one's gonna be it would never get everybody happy. No one know why I'm asking that is because I don't self censor myself. So I'm not aware. I don't know what is acceptable or not. I as a as a Jew, adjacent, I guess I get to say it's acceptable for this show.

Okay. So yes. So my whole point is that, you know, it's just that when you do that and say blanket statements, you only discredit yourself because there's people aren't like, people, they're very fine people on both sides. What knows actually, people just doing good work for Palestine is good for

people, you know, if you lean that way or the other way. And one thing I want to point out is Ilhan Omar and we got to talk about her for a minute because they use this same tactic against her Yep, that you know anytime they need to reel her back in he was saying they played it anti semitic card. He's like hey, you but they don't never kill. Well, that that in the you married your brother card. That's another favorite. Yeah. I think that's that one's more entertaining. When they roll

that we're winning. She's smoking the cigarette. I love that. That's cool. Patchy hair. About give me counsel. Yeah, I'm working on it. I see Let's see. So now we got to get to the remarks. Um it's a teachable moments, I was a teachable moment you know. So I just as a exercise I want to show power is supposed to be done. When you have somebody to step, run a file or whatever, you know thing is offensive. This is how they always use the teachable moment number 12.

The history of the Holocaust has been part of the school curriculums for decades. But how it is taught, and how much Americans really know about the mass genocide of European Jews and other minority groups has changed in recent years. Concerns about that very issue were triggered this week by remarks from Whoopi Goldberg, the comedian, actress and talk show host made the comments Monday on ABC TV's view, Goldberg and her co hosts were discussing a school district

book man on a graphic novel about the Holocaust mouse. Here is some of what Goldberg initially said during her conversation. The Holocaust isn't about race. No, no, it's not about you heard Sonny agree with her. Mm hmm. Did you hear that? I mean, are you just mean Did you hear that? You heard it when it's pointed out to you. But did you ever pay attention to that before? No, never this conversation? No, of course notice. No. Sonny agree with Whoopi. So that's that black

thing kicked me in first, like yep, yep. And she's like, well, hold on. Hold. Wait, wait, you know, so pay attention to the quick change that Sonny does. I'm gonna roll it back just a tad more holistic, graphic novel about the Holocaust mouse. Here is some of what Goldberg initially said during her conversation. The Holocaust isn't about race. No, no, it's not about race. It's not about race. Well, how if Sonny said No How come? Sonny doesn't get canceled? Because her husband?

She got the card. Mm hmm. Educate she as she and she came to heal a heal. I keep that happening. Yeah. She quickly like nah, Sheila. No, no, no, wait, wait a minute. Wait a minute. Am I real? Quickly, and let me start right here cuz you ask this question. And I got to touch into this. This whole Whoopi thing. Me you talked about the via text? What is her Whoopi thing aside? Because Bobby knows. She knows. She knows you can't say this. And

then they brought it on the Colbert show that night. They cleared her schedule brought her on, and she still stuck to her guns. So I'm like, is this a psyop for something else to come down the line. But you and I discussed it in the context of Rogen, which was happening at the same time? Correct. So it's just like, huh, in fact, I remember I remember what you said. You said Whoopi may be in on this somehow on this Rogan thing? Right? Because now you set the standard like all we got to

counsel people, you're saying we can't Whoopi? Yeah, you know, cuz you'll see these things happen as a precursor. And I'm not saying that um, this is just me speculating watching it because it's like would be just a dumb thing to say, well, it's not you know, you're absolutely right. Because now, every cancellation not every but I hear a lot is. Well, Whoopi Goldberg, you know, it's a it's a new measure in the line. It says lightning would be Yeah, what about Whoopi is like, Oh,

hold on a second. That was the standard. And by the way, it really sets up it really reestablishes the standard of where Jews want to be seen in the entertainment narrative. So I'm just I just found it weird that she stuck to her guns even after the show. Yeah, and even on the Colbert show, cuz I'm sure she got phone calls. If she was honestly saying this, I'm sure her phone was ringing off the hook. A July like phone? Yeah. I'm sorry. I got Rona man. It's like, a little slow today.

Oh, no problem. Oh, you mean to Boulais? Phone? Mo Yeah, sure. Not the different phone you know, so but yes. So I want to say that her phone was off the hook was ringing off the hook. Like you really want to stand on this. If she truly meant it. And she probably would have corrected herself by how she went on the Colbert show. But she didn't know which I just found very strange. I mean, just just just just observing. Yeah. I like it. We'll go back to that part. Okay, the Holocaust

isn't about race. No, no, it's not about race. No As a race, but it's it's not about race. It's not about race, it's about because it's about man's inhumanity to man. That's what it's about. Those remarks were widely condemned. And in response, a number of experts detail the Nazis racism against Jews. The next day, Goldberg invited the head of the anti Defamation League on the program to explain the historical record. And she apologized.

You know, what the, kind of the sad thing of all of this is, is that we have a medical tyranny situation in the world right now, which is extremely analogous to Germany 3133 34, you know, getting set up for the Nazi party with othering, etc. And, you know, we can't because of this, ultimately, you know, this this conversation that's, that's taking place around this particular incident is and Joe Rogan, etc. Deal. Meanwhile, it's happening all over again, right in front of our face in

real time, you know what I'm saying? Right? But we can't see that we can't see the problem. Right. The way I look at Canada is the Charlotte view of the world. You know, the high calling of Charlottesville kind of set this scene? Yeah, yeah, sure. Sure. You know, it's kind of like that for the whole world. Of anybody that's thinking about doing this. You're gonna be you want to be perceived this way. Which is why all eyes on Canada?

Yes. Keep trucking it up, fellas. I'm so sure. So I guess we can go in and get into 13 now, and she apologized. I said that the Holocaust wasn't about race. And it was instead about man's inhumanity to man. But it is indeed about race. Because Hitler and the Nazis considered Jews to be an inferior race. Now words matter and mine are no exception. I regret my comments, as I said, and I stand corrected. I also stand with the Jewish people, as they know and y'all know because I've always done that.

Afterward, ABC suspended Goldberg for two weeks. The episode is raised larger questions, and we want to spend a few minutes looking at those good Ethan Katz is the co director of the Berkeley anti semitism education initiative. And He's an associate professor of history and Jewish Studies at UC Berkeley. Ethan Katz, welcome to the NewsHour. First of all, what was your reaction to Whoopi Goldberg's initial comments that the Holocaust was not about race?

Thank you for having me on the show. I mean, this was a shocking thing for someone to say someone who is well educated, someone who has many, many Jewish friends and has for decades. And so the Holocaust was all about race, right? The historical record of the Nazis is so clear that they thought they were fighting a race war primarily against Jews also in

Slavs and Roma and other groups. And so to make this statement reflects a tremendous lack of historical sort of basic knowledge about the nature of the Holocaust, and also the nature of anti semitism as primarily a racial hatred of Jews because it sees Jews as a racial, biological group. Okay. So this he's Brian, this is normal. They have to bring in somebody to educate you. Yes, yes. We saw this with Nick Cannon. Nick Cannon, he was saying he had some guest on and

he kind of stepped on the third rail. He had apologized twice. And he had to had to rabbis on the show to educate him. And it's one thing I've missed. One point I wonder missed to make because it's important to say clips, can you go back and just play the first maybe 1015 seconds a clip number 12. I'm sorry, I know. I know you had I kicked it out. But I want to point out a point while you pulling it up. I want to point out the parallel between West taught school for the Holocaust

and then compare that to CRT. Here we go. The history of the Holocaust has been part of school curriculums for decades, but how it is taught and how much Americans really know about the mass genocide of European Jews and other minority groups has changed in recent years. You stopped right there. So the point notice CRT kicked out No, no, no, no, no, for good reason. Because it's like from my side. I'm glad I got kicked out because I don't want you to

teach my kids that they're inferior and victims. But CRT get kicked out. But the Holocaust stays in. Right. And it's been tough read notice. Certain groups are trying to get CRT put in Holocaust already in there. He's always already baked into part of your education in the public school system. Right? But But is it? Is it done as destructively as CRT? No, it's taught from a different paradigm, not from the paradigm

of being a victim, right? paradigm of being weak survive, right, which is being a survivor or being a victim is to total deaths. No, no. Yes. So I'm just wanting to point that out when I heard I was like, huh, so it CRT gets kicked out, you know, and are railed against. But nobody ever says anything about taking the Holocaust. out of out of right. But it but if it was, it was presented in the victim narrative than I think it would be, obviously.

So why don't you teach CRT from the paradigm? Well, of course, of course. Once again, I understand it, but but I don't hold your saying the Jewish people accountable. I hold the Boulais accountable, because it's like whatever they did, to get the power they have, obviously, it worked. I mean, we

can't deny it. It works. So you work closely what you're saying with these coalition's not those two blueprint overs, like whatever y'all did, let us get the blueprint, you know, and then we can enact it so we can get whatever happened in America slaving in taught from a paradigm of these kids are survivors. Not the same way Jewish kids feel pride in their parents being survivors of the Holocaust, not of victims of it.

Well, I'd like to remind you that I believe that all this generational wealth we're dealing with came from a nice handful of families who were who were at the Money Creation. Hmm. It's only been 100 years really, when you think about it, most of

most of these families in the United States, at least. And and so now you know, there's a new place where money's being created, it's Bitcoin and I'll just keep saying I think that's where black America should sit as close to the sources that as possible. Well, I'll let you know we always go back and forth on this, which I'm not anti crypto, I want to make this clear. I'm very specifically I'm specifically Bitcoin not crypto when we pick Well,

we're okay. I'm not anti Bitcoin. But I want people to understand the power that's behind the dollar. Um, and you can see it being plant you brought up Canada. Yo, yo, the world is gonna say, y'all, I mean, the y'all as the listeners are seeing, Oh, crypto or Yeah, we want to get your hands around that. It's funny. It's funding protest. It's funding problems. Oh, yeah. We need to regulate that ASAP. Sure. Oh, this is this is

not like they can I'm just saying not like they can. But okay, it's nice for them to say that. There's a difference. I don't I never doubt the power and magic behind the dollar. And I mean, that literally, that $1 Bill That's some heavy weight. Witchcraft going on in that because you can flash that bad boy around the world and people know I mean, even people in countries and civilizations that have

not true that's true. And out the magic is not that magic. The magic is the massive military that defends it. Yeah, because if you look on one side it has the pure look on the other side got an ego with a talent full of arrows that let you know that's what's up. Wow, America, honestly, Nick and run up the day all they want to and I mean, I I've never said this on the show. But how America works is it's like the repo man. You can run all the debt you want. But you can't come repo

these cars got got a house full of guns. Yeah, yeah. You're saying so? China? Yeah, I bet 20 trillion, 30 trillion 50 trillion. And that's what they realize. Like, how you gonna collect? Come get it? Yep. So I'm just saying that that's why I'm not anti Bitcoin or crypto because I think it's a great money. Big opportunity. And like you said, it's in transferring money. Yeah, they can't control it. But when you get ready to actually transfer it over to something you could spend.

They'll try their damnedest to do what I can't not gonna say they're gonna be successful. But yeah, you see, we saw what they did in Canada. I know I hate mo I'm not saying I'm not saying it's easy. But we've had revolutions before this is just a very long very silent one that's taking place and I'm from the future so I'm just letting you know. That's okay. And I agree, I agree with you that you know, it we're on the cusp of something very Wow, not in violent but just people

thinking differently. And that's why they're trying to get their hands around it. Anything they can't control they try to destroy, and hopefully people see, this is the this is why the paranoia. Just thought from and I don't want to be like this point, but just stop for a minute and savor this. And see like how Justin Trudeau was rolling, and how the whole

situation playing out. And that's the what? The mentality or the SIOP that people that I'll say, I can only speak for me specifically, have lived under this, I, you know what, you can't build it cuz they just gonna tear it up. But that's what caused the victimization mentality, which that's why we had to defeat it. And that's the whole point of this whole block. And the show in general is that you can't No, just be a victim.

At the end of that you have to keep pushing for it. But on the other side, this is a good way to empathize and see what what it feels like to be on the bottom. Because this is this is a this is about a moment right now. Absolutely. And, and I think I see people realizing that, and, yeah, we're seeing how to do roles. But there's a lot of pushback, and it's, it's going to be very interesting to see what happens. We know that there's only a few outcomes.

Someone's got to bleed. And we'll see. But it to me the most amazing thing is Canada. Like, yeah, I will never make another a or a bhoot joke again. Fuck those guys are badass. So we'll see. We'll see what happens. But yeah, this is a everyone can be at the bottom moment. This is the true get mo nation slavery's what this is, it's unbelievable. That's exactly what it is. And this one more No, is always be cautious. That person is always smiling, the happy. Here's a new

ones you got to worry about. It's right. When they go, they really go. Yeah, I mean, it's and I know that people are just in disbelief over what's happening. But it's really taking place. It's it's phenomenal. This moment in history is really fantastic. But the I think they really underestimate the communication skills with the people. And this is why they're trying to control you know, the

podcasts of black people. No black people, yes. Because once you start getting in mass, just think if you had a large contingent of black people in Canada out there, then you can't deem it as far right? Or instant hate or that kind of thing, right? When the crowds too dark, then a lot of the tools start to wilt. Right? So that's the point and this, just bring it back to where we're at. That's why this is what you see here. So I guess we started 13. Let's go and get into 14.

Now you can't change your race. Whereas, you know, people can convert religiously, right? But the Nazis didn't care if you had grown up Christian. If you had three or four Jewish grandparents, you were Jewish, and you were supposed to be annihilated. I'm wondering do you think hats? How many people you think there are out there who believe that the Holocaust was not only an attempt to eliminate the Jews because of their religion, but

also because of their race? I'm asking because there was a poll done. We know of just a couple of years ago showing a surprisingly high number large percentage of young people aged 18 to 39, almost a quarter of them didn't have a clear memory of what the Holocaust was about, what's your sense of the public's understanding of office?

Right. So that study from the claims conference from the fall of 2020 is very disturbing in terms of the numbers of people who didn't know how many people were murdered in the Holocaust, one in 10, under 40, had never heard the word Holocaust before they said. So I think we are in a moment of diminished public consciousness about the Holocaust, probably the 1990s, with many anniversaries from World War Two, with the opening growth of the Holocaust Museum, what the was perhaps the height

moment. And now we're in a moment where it is certainly disturbing. And the problem is that you cannot understand the nature of anti semitism without understanding that it was racial from the beginning and that the Holocaust was about race and that for American Jews today, their experience of anti semitism is still profoundly shaped by that.

Wow, man, it would be it would be so much less irritating to listen to that if they said and it's really important you learn about the Holocaust and the plight of the Jews so that you can recognize it's happening to everybody right now. You stupid not nuts. Yes, in this in this block, but I just want to make one more point nobody Ever tells the Jewish community to get over? No, like no, no, because no, they are quick to tell black people was 400 years ago over it right? We still whining about

that. And then they'll go into textbooks and say, I think it was he was saying like they're immigrants. They immigrated here immigrants, I they're trying to even change the language of it's almost kind of like becoming like slavery deniers of I, you know, it was just immigration or it wasn't that bad. Get over it now, let it go. But when you come this group, it's like, if you want to say that, if someone will say, You know what, this almost, almost 100 years ago, I used to harping on that, on

that, um, Holocaust thing. You wouldn't, you would get dragged out the studio. If you were going to break and you come out here and leave, they will drag you out kicking the screaming. So that's my point is, this is what I've made that last and final point of this blog to say, it's amazing, that we're told to get over it is over and done. Even though you can look 1950 6070s You're saying these things still went on.

sharecropping went on slavery and and as another name in this country, they're saying for many, many decades after the official slavery, and we're told to get over it, but you know, nobody else if you say that you are weak, you will be kidding me like, a Holocaust denier is probably the lowest thing you can be. But when you get that label on you, oh, it's a rat. I mean, like, say it's no reasons to deny it, because it happened.

But my point is, if you were say, to get over it, like we're told to get over it, cuz I even got, I've gotten letters that people are saying when I talk about atonement, and so I want to make it clear that I'm not asking for anything. You're asking me for something. I'm just telling you the price of it. Let's just to be clear, you want my vote. I understand what my vote is worth. So I won't be swindled out. You won't get you

won't get me. Right. Um, yeah. So it's just amazing how that happens in you know, so that's my block on block my block on Whoopi? Um, so, anything you want to say before we go, thanks for people? No, I, you know, I think there's, there's obviously more that will, that will learn and uncover in about this now. I mean, what I what I now have is like, bang, okay, I got some mess and realization, particularly when you said, you

hear how, what's your name? The lawyer, honey, sonny? Yeah, how she how she jumped in right away and how she's that that's, that was very interesting. And it's so hard, because I hate watching that show. It's so annoying. But now I have to I got to pay attention all that. That was Rachel programming. And we can we can talk about it in this whatever. We all have some degree of racial programming. So her initial racial program was to agree it would be right as

her sister as her black sister. But then she you're saying like no. But that's my wrap on Whoopee. And in the first block of the potlucks, I guess we could think some people now yeah, this is this is a nice potluck indeed. And you're stirring it up real good here firsthand, right man and the black man have to be able to sit down at the same table, the white man has to feel free to speak his mind

without hurting the feelings of that negro. And the so called Negro has to feel free to speak in the mind without hurting the feeling of the white man, then they can bring the issues that are under the rug out on top of the table and take an intelligent approach to get the problem solved. That's the only way we'll ever do it. And it should be pretty obvious that the conversation we're having here is not the most commercial type of talk, we could we could choose to do. So

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down because I use some use under fair use. I use some clips from the different world show. It was the episode where they did the the kind of like a satirical thing with the whole Clarence Thomas trial. Oh, yeah, sure. I said much more fair use Fair Use fair use, and they steal ticket now. And then I challenge you. I'm not I'm not editing my videos anymore. So I challenge that, you know, What, did he send you a letter saying, Oh, you want your copy back? Right. Yeah, right. Exactly.

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scrutiny for missing financial records. The California Department of Justice threatening to hold the foundation's leaders personally liable if they fail to disclose details of the $60 million in donations that it received in the next two months. Here now is Andrew Kerr, Washington Examiner, investigative reporter. Incredible work, Andrew, what do you know right now about these developments,

right. So Black Lives Matter is a is a public charity. That means that they have an obligation to disclose your basic information about their finances to the public information about their leadership and your information about where they actually reside. And Black Lives Matter has provided none of that information, information on their 2020 finances a year in which they closed that with 60

million in their bank accounts, is months late. We tried to go to their Los Angeles address my colleague did last week and was told by a security guard that Black Lives Matter has never had an office here. And we constantly get packages that we have to read for black lives matter that we have to return back to sender, and their board members won't disclose who has been in charge of the charity for the past eight months, when its former co founder, or when his co founder Patrisse Cullors.

left the organization last May amid scrutiny over her own personal real estate purchase purchases. She appointed two co executive directors to lead the organization. But they quietly announced in September that we're not taking the job because we can't come to an agreement with Black Lives Matter. Whoa, gee, who could have seen that coming? God, I mean, seriously, that is so surprising.

It isn't even amazing how you can transact that much cash and operate for this long I mean, they've been operating now for it since 2014 15. Yeah. Official on the books were in 2022 and all of a sudden now you want we want to talk about money who's in charge that kind of thing? This is what I would call it weight burning when you burn somebody. Yeah, they're they're burning their agents of course. What this is this is the thing you didn't really you didn't know how this was gonna go. I

mean, throughout all of history. I'm talking to the incident members of Black Lives Matter leadership. You didn't know you didn't see how this was gonna go unbelievable. I mean, and it's corporate money to buy Coca Cola and Papa money much better. Yeah. So my point is one if you're so knowledgeable and black history and revolutionary tactics, you got to notice as part of it that's what they call breaking their tools. You know, once they you know, they're done they're

done with them. Yeah. So now is these three women were the you know, the blame for everything that happened in black lives matter. But no matter how, how I disagree with their tactics and their ideology, I will not stand aside and let him take the blame all alone. No, we should be. Right, that would be disingenuous. That's, that's the same as blaming Dr. Dre and Snoop and all them guys without talking about.

Now you're starting to see the truth. I mean, of course you saw but it's the connective tissue between these blocks on the potluck. But just to remind people that may have forgotten. We're gonna go over to Dave Pakman. This is from Episode Seven, about about who was really funding Black Lives

Matter. And I have a very, very specific idea that we need to explore seriously, which is that the anti Bernie Sanders tinge of the Black Lives Matter movement recently could be George Soros funded astroturf, and I will speak as specifically as possible, Louis, and then I will allow you, Louis to tell me what

you think about this. It's widely on record, that George Soros, the liberal billionaire has poured a ton of money into two movements that were instrumental in creating Black Lives Matter and the buzzword dating back to January, we knew that George Soros spent over $30 million bankrolling Ferguson demonstrators and of course, Ferguson relates to Officer Darren Wilson, who killed unarmed teenager Michael Brown

and was ultimately not charged. This includes support by George Soros of groups like color lines, news for action, an organization for black struggle, which established itself then established the hands up coalition. Soros also gave money to the Drug Policy Alliance, which worked on pushing Black Lives Matter as a bud buzzword, which has since been incorporated into speech speeches by political figures, including Hillary Clinton.

Mm hmm. So just remember, you know, we're not gonna let these three sisters twist in the wind, every day of criminal cases are going to come down and just tying into the first block. You remember anytime you mentioned the worst Soros Yeah, it was anti semitic. Now, that's why I use the clip from Mr. David Pakman. Because he was born to us nightsky Fs I can't say that Eskenazi Ashkenazi Jewish family. So how does that work? You let me know how that went. And that's why we can't paint

with a wide brush either. Yeah, that's why be specific to who you're talking about. Because we have people pointing out things and bringing things to attention. But we saw on Fox News, I thought, right, they ran somebody off the air live. Right. You can't you can't say soil. Right, right, right. I can't find I can't remember who's standing on the clue was that it was sure it was Fox. It was Fox. It was definitely Fox. Cuz you know, I was gonna

say Soros. I mean, we know that to be false. But I think it was a was it the mayor? Was it the mayor of New York? The former mayor of New York was is this from real Bill O'Reilly days? I don't it was, it was recent enough that we were doing the show. Um, I remember that. But I'm just saying, even the What's this? What's this? There was something on Fox News yesterday with Newt Gingrich that got a lot of Yes, it was Newt Gingrich. I'm not gonna comment on the Fox News

personnel there. I'm gonna tell you. The George Soros has donated seven, you have the clip seven people on Thursday doesn't have the clip anyway. Yeah, it was Newt Gingrich, who said that he brought up George Soros in relation to it, and they and they and like, Okay, what you can't say that click boom by. So I'm just showing you how that works. As far as I mean, not you but the audience how that works. But then we have de Patman over here, saying that Soros was funding Black Lives Matter,

right. So the scrutiny needs to go all the way to the top there fish rots in the head. So let's go ahead and get into the second part of this clip. About scrutiny. So amid all of this, the state of Washington and California have recently notified, black lives matter that, hey, if you guys want to operate in our state, then you need to submit your financial information until you do so you're not to solicit

any contributions from citizens of our state. Washington warned black lives matter in a letter A few weeks ago that you can face fines up to $2,000 per violation. And California said that we will hold the leaders and everybody that's in charge of solicitation at Black Lives Matter personally accountable.

If if you don't submit your records within 60 days. So yesterday, Black Lives Matter. Took the extraordinary step and they announced that you know we're gonna pause all online fundraising as we get our registration issues sorted out, but this is some breaking news from just before I came on air, it turns out that black lives matter is still accepting

donations from their active blue donation pages. They told me just before we came on the air that, you know, these are not active fundraising pages, you know, these are former fundraising pages, which doesn't really make sense because they, you know, I was able to pitch $1 to Black Lives Matter, proving that they're still actively accepting contributions, despite their statement yesterday that they're no longer going to be soliciting funds online.

So you can see, I'm just trying to figure out how do you collect that much money and know how your paperwork in order and allow to do business for that loan? And it didn't raise any red flags. But now that it's over, you're done with them? Yeah, it's kind of ran its course they've you know, they've been burned. You know, whenever you say black lives matter, people notice the scam now. Yeah, we're talking about Black Lives Matter ain't let me be clear. Let me clarify for the

new listeners. Um, we're talking about Black Lives Matter, Inc. That's the corporate wing of it, you know, that was taking money and not the people on the ground, you know, protesting or fighting for black lives and on a very grassroots level. But I noticed now, they're doing I don't know if it's gonna be the new group. But they're using this language of what was it? It's not Black Lives Matter is what slipped my mind. It was something for black lives. Is something is, man, but they

don't use black lives matter anymore. It's me, man. That's totally something. But it's still tied to at Blue. Let let Oh, no, of course. Through the text, you were saying to do a curry cash check on this really? Is something for black lives? Well, I'll talk about in a future show but agenda. No, no, no, no, it's a, I don't want to drag it out. Okay, basically, they have another kind of like, shell game going on, which it has black lives in it. But it does not black lives matter. So

I think they're going to start pivoting to that. So who do you think they is? In this case? It's the same, it's gonna anything's the same. Right? A shadow organization, they just find new patsies to take the blame. Yeah. And like I said, these women got in over their head, they got a celebrity got the they got the fame that went along with it. All the you know, highlights and given all kinds of juice, praise, but I didn't understand the other shoe that

was gonna, it was gonna drop now. So my thing is, if we're gonna take them now, which I mean, I think ridicule is enough. Yes. But if you're gonna take them down, then we need a RICO case, we need to go into the tall. Okay, what's known as Rico. It's a short for racketeering

influence, corrupt organization. Any organization that is acting with illegal has illegal activities from a regular corporation, Wall Street Corporation, two gangs can be prosecuted under the RICO Act. In order to be prosecuted under the RICO Act, the prosecutors have to there's different levels and different thing, different elements that the government has

to prove. When it comes to prosecutions of Rico, however, generally, the prosecutor has to prove at least two or three separate acts that the corporation is committing that are illegal. So for example, when you are prosecuting a gang, a street gang with Rico, prosecutors usually would show that that gang is dealing with drugs and committing murders. That would be enough to prove a RICO depends on again, how what statute section under the RICO act, you are being prosecuted

under. Sometimes the prosecutor has to prove specifically those acts. And sometimes they can just generally prove certain acts and when the jury finds when the jury deliberates, they don't really have to specifically tell or vote on A certain act, they can just in general say yes, we find that the the prosecutor prove that at least two acts are illegal. Yeah. So we got we're gonna get them. It's my best chance to Soros. Yeah. Good luck with that. No Rico cases. We've seen

on tape now big fish before. And connective tissue. Obviously they patent pointed out there's there's let me be optimist Adam Okay. Yeah, I mean, I have little faith in most institutions, I would say justice is probably one I have the least faith in right now. And the name of the group is the movement for black lives. All right, cool. Right. I was reading this article, and they kept talking about the movement for black lives. I've never heard this group before.

So their website is M for bl.org. That's right. I remember when you when you go click on the donate button, of course, you know where it goes at Blue. So I think this is going to be the new Cheryl corporation because they use the same yellow and black on their website that we pointed out that was used in Black Lives Matter. Street painting. Mm hmm. It's the same color, everything. But yeah, it's the movement for black lives. And I think this is going to be their new shell company.

Shell organization that they operate out of this group, whoever the shadow group is, they saw what happened in 2020. They went to woke with the sand trying to get rid of the black man. I'm seeing now that the Democratic Party is saying trying to get some black man to, you know, played a role for them. In politics. I'll be bringing up some names here shortly. But um, yeah, so I think if they're gonna go down, do they have to? They have spokes holes? Do they have new spokes models here for

corbeil? No, it's not yet. It's just, but it's called power down their website says power black power rising 2024. So you see what they're setting up for? And I think like, say they went to woke. And they're like, Well, when we went that far, we shifted the, you know, we went outside the scope of what people

are willing to follow. We were saying, when we start reading the literature, what Black Lives Matter was about and they're, they're probably going to try to correct from that, and then pick up from where they left off it. But I have this clip, because what brought this to my attention, even before the $60 million thing came out Patrisse Cullors has been left the group as stated before, Oh, yeah. But she was on with Jamil Hill. And I was like, how long is this? Oh, video? I mean, like, why is

she talking about why she left again? So she's back around doing around again, like trying to say, I ain't got nothing to do with this. Damage Control? Right, she tried to clear her name. So, um, this is the next clip where her and Jamil Hill last May though you made the decision that you were going to step down from the Black Lives Matter global network foundation, you said it was the right time? What made it the right time?

You know, I had been in BLM since the very beginning, obviously, for eight years when the last co founders who were really was there to help build infrastructure and an usher in honestly a new decade for BLM. I was I was ready it was I personally was ready to evolve into a next role and next position, not necessarily for like a nonprofit, but in my life to make some money. But, you know, seven months out, I will be honest with you, it was also because of right wing attacks. Oh, I was thinking

about my child, I really thought that I was gonna die. I thought you know, I had received multiple calls from the FBI that there were credible threats against my life and I had to just really sit back and make a decision like what what is my what's my best role in this movement? Is it a dead tree? So in a live bitchface and I said it was me being alive here to see my child grow up. So many, you know, young, so many people who lost their parents to white supremacist and didn't get to

grow up with their parents. I'm more than just a movement leader. I'm also a mother. No, no, no, no, no, no. No, we're like that. Cuz you can't let the patriarchy run you all right. Not the front line of fighting for your saying, uh, you know, all things, you know, liberation. Hey, whatever happened to the two Do Marxist trainers slash kind of managers of their older, older likes in their 70s? Jews?

Which one? Which one are you talking about? Ah, it's like an old dude, an old woman and they were also involved in the actual 5013 C. This goes back a while for a little bit there was a blip. Were like, Hey, hold on a second. This is like, classic classic Marxist been doing this shit forever. Right cuz that's when the whole Marxist Yeah, yeah, everybody started doing their homework. And yeah, you know, just interesting that they were both Jewish. Hello.

You saying about? You're saying they go to the workers. It never goes up? No, it stops at the workers, right? This is the Superbowl halftime show all over again. It stops with Patrice colors, right? I understand her two buddies set up to run a billion dollar scheme made all style and they were the only ones that did it. Yeah. This this is how it works. It's like no, it doesn't work like that. You know, but as far as you don't get this kind of money and Corporation buy in just remote

three people that we never heard before. And to you No, no, no, no, no, no, there were there were some professional fundraising going on. This was this was well organized. Well done. Yeah. And they're 2020s over 2022 They're like, they're not really valuable to us anymore. Oh, I mean, it had a stench on them every time they come out. Like all those the marches,

girls, just kind of thing. I mean, that's what people's reaction or in certain circles, unless, unless unless Patrisse Cullors can get a hit on with her Netflix deal if she can get a real hit out of that, which I did doubt that could rekindle her. But I don't see that happening. This what she's trying to do, but I mean, all of these people are done. Calpurnia is out with the old in with the new and this is how it works.

And by the way, Jay Z's got to know that one of these days he's gonna be out to oh, he already had his pancake moment. pounds cake. Take moment, Bill Cosby thing. Um, I've said this before on the show, I mean, in passing, but when he made that deal when the NFL, that was his poundcake moment, it's Can you explain the pancake moment? Again, I don't remember. So when Bill Cosby came out and was like route railing on black people, that's kind of when he lost the noose and the black

support? Was I pull up your pants right now we're killing each other. We're poundcake. That CO. So that's why when they came for him, he had no support. And it's funny that you say that because and this is how I found out about the movement for black lives. Because there was an article right after the Superbowl talking about Jay Z basically sold out and it was in the route. Author from the roots and what do we really get for Jay Z are saying it was good for Jay Z, but it wasn't good for

us. So that's what I start seeing them say the movement for black lives. And I thought they were just doing some wordplay. But no, it's actually an organization. That's so that's kind of interesting. Did was there a general expectation that, hey, these guys, they finally got the power. They're going to do the halftime show. They're gonna do something great. Was there an expectation that Jay Z and the crew there would do that? He was poster brain. He was post to how I'm gonna put this. He

was pole was supposed to, right? No, I know, the whole reason was what kept when it was fighting for it. That was the expectation like Kaepernick, right. So Jay Z, he'll come in, and he'll do something transformative in there in NFL, but Jay Z saw as he grifted, the Grifters. He was, he was like, I'm going to take your grift and I'm going to use this to position myself for ownership in the NFL. Right. And when he did that everybody on the grass roots was like, I mean, for black lives matter was

like, oh, Jay Z is a grifter. And that's why I said when they do cover him, he won't have that support. Right away with Bill Cosby, how everybody kind of threw their hands up was like you can have you know, it's not meaningful to us. So yeah, that was that was I think the NFL thing was his power was, was there something that you think he could have done? That would have been the right thing to do? No, it's not. There's nothing I could have done. Right. The grift. The whole show was the grift.

It was the pret he kind of wasn't a pressure relief valve for the NFL. Oh, no. I know. I know. I know what the point of him doing that was not what I'm saying is that he was that that's the point of it so he wouldn't have been functional or regardless. Any

other There isn't any other way. Right? I got, you know, so it was no way he could what he wanted to do was kind of like, no, thread the needle and say, you know, I'm doing it for the culture, you know, kind of like, oh, we'll give you a halftime show. And the funny thing was even then, he had to do the Latinos first. He can't come in and do a black halftime show. Oh, no, no, no, no, no. He had to do the Shakira Oh, right. That was his he did that one first. Right? They're

like Jay No, no, be crazy. Yeah. He's into it. Now he's into ease into it. So yeah. So when I say all this to say that all these things are strategic. And that leads me to the theorem Emoni moment now. So you need me to actively play along with this thank you do for this block. So why he's grabbing his instrument. There's a recent case where a former Black Lives Matter activist went in and shot a mirror or mayoral candidate. Oh, yeah, yeah. Yeah, this was great. Wait, wait

All right. So when I see this, it makes you think, Oh, this is this is the total stepping away from Black Lives Matter? We gotta have a black violet man come in. Yes. Yes. A Jewish Mayor he up and and in the media ate that shit right up. Right so this is them stepping away from the whole Black Lives Matter thing and they gotta say where they're toxic now. See, now they're toxic and they and they have to take a black man to do it. It's unbelievable. How how do they get him so crazy to do this?

Well, we're gonna get into that right. Yeah, yeah, I'm sorry. I gotta have my goggles on. Let me make sure they're on tight mo horns. Like breaking tonight. A local activist is charged with the attempted murder of a local mayoral candidate police have identified 21 year old Quinn's has brown is the man who fired shots at Craig Greenberg and his staff earlier today. Why is Shaquille Lord His reaction tonight? He's live at Metro corrections with the latest Shaq.

Vicki as you mentioned, he is an activist. He's a former columnist and even had his eyes set on running for global Metro council district five. But tonight the 21 year old ish is charged with attempted murder and is behind bars here at Metro corrections. The democratic process is that we as individuals go into the ballot box and vote for who we want. We don't kill candidates so that other people can vote for them.

Strong words from Metro Council President David James it comes after finding out former local columnist Quintus Brown was identified as the man who police say try to kill Louisville mayoral candidate Craig Greenberg, all of us are blessed. And I'm blessed to be standing here today with you. So I'm thinking serasa Ron, I think I pronounce his name. Sir hon. Sir Hassan. Yes. I'm thinking we got some action like this going on.

It's gotta be this. This is. I mean, it's so perfect for him to be doing this. Right. Right. In Louisville. Right. Well, that was episode one of the whole Briana Taylor case. Yeah. And the hotbed for 2020 Ah, goodness. So yeah. This August security. Yeah. And takes a shot two shots at the guy and it hits a sweater. Yeah. And that's another beauty. That doesn't make any sense. And then it's Dubin anti gun. It just didn't make no sense the whole story. So I'm like when

I'm starting to look at this. I'm like, this stinks. But it starts to bring things back into my mind but I'm like, Well, hold on Whoa. You know, interesting Hold on You gotta you gotta use and you just easy, easier. They can jump out the window with you know how these rabbit holes are. So I stopped listening to the story more 24 around 10. This morning, officers responded to Greenberg's campaign headquarters and purchase him

market for report of an active aggressor. Police say Brown entered Greenberg's office and fired several shots at him just grazing his sweater. Neither Greenberg nor his four staff members were injured physically. Hours after the shooting. Greenberg says he's still trying to grasp what happened. I'm shaken up. It was a surreal experience and mostly right now. I just want to get home to my wife and sons and give them a hug.

He says thanks to the quick thinking of his staff. They were able to barricade themselves in the individual closest to the door. Manage To briefly get the door shut, we barricaded the door and the suspect fled. Brown was well known for being a constant presence during social unrest in Louisville during 2020. While there are more questions than answers at this point, James says Greenberg and others are blessed to be able to walk away.

I'm just thankful that that the staff and Craig Greenberg are alive and well, no addition. In addition to attempted murder, Brown is also facing four counts of wanton endangerment he's scheduled to appear before Judge tomorrow morning.

I have a nice social unrest instead of BLM protests social unrest Yes, it's gaining steam in what was weird is he came into two shots of several shots, but some counts was too they said several in this in this in this story, the story and then they bombard it in a barricaded the door I don't understand how this works like he came in shot at you. And then your style barricaded the door like this the sequences off to me there's yeah this is this is indeed highly sketchy.

He says Paopao Graves is your sweat accuser cardigan. He was a man but even that man I've never seen seen it like that. Just just I mean that's lucky, right? Yeah, I don't understand. If and then the way they put it like grazie sweater. It's like I don't know why it just didn't make any sense. But it was starting to make sense was before this happened. He went missing. Oh, really? Oh crap. I'm missing. 20 year old college student has an entire community hoping for his safe return

says We love you. And until we find this young man, we're gonna continue as community to come together and make sure that this young man is found safe and not in harm's way. Thank you everyone for coming out. I know you often have some fliers in your hand and Quint has Brown has not been seen since June 19. And his family and friends and the University of Louisville are all searching for him when chance is a born leader. I know I met him his freshman year

in high school. And immediately when I met him I new this young man had a gift to serve in his community. He's known as an activist for police reform and civil rights and has contributed as an opinion writer for The Louisville courier journal Quintessa his father and stepmother expressed during a virtual press conference. Though he has no history of mental illness, they feel contest, maybe in a mental health crisis, or know what he's going through. But this is not like him. He's

not that type of kid. He's a great kid. He's a great young man. And I just feel like he's in a bad place that he needs his father and his mom at love. Quintus Brown is five foot 10 inches about 180 pounds with tattoos on his upper arms and chest. His family says he shaved his head and beard the day before he went missing. And authority say his credit card was last used at a grocery store near the University of Louisville campus on June 19.

He's all about community is all about happy, he's all about change. He's willing to do whatever we can for the next person. So I asked everybody to come together as he would and try to find him. Quint has Browns family and friends now ask for any tips that may lead to finding him while he was missing since June of last year. So he go yet goes missing shapes had no history of mental illness

and disappears into university. Go cozy as an anti gun nonviolent activist and comes back you're saying a straight up take your shots at politicians. Dude. Saying he MK Yeah, but but I'm pissed because it's a damn COVID I'm telling you I was watching the story come by and and the most obvious part of it. I mean first I'm like, Oh man, but but that it was a man that's what i That was the big tip off that I was just

wasn't wasn't clicking for me like, Oh my goodness. This is totally burnt burning everything. They're burning the whole operation, the whole thing and right down to the cultural core. And you know how hard it is to disappear nowadays? I mean, you had to have no keynote. No, no devices, nothing. No devices, no nothing. It's like somebody may use you can there's cameras everywhere. There's ring cameras. That's why you had to change his appearance.

If this is complete speculation, but what Rahway before a minute, they called him in. They called it they called it up in there saying they twisted the screws in his head and they put him back out there. How do you disappear right into the university? I mean, this is Louisville. This is this is a major city. No cameras, no nothing just disappear. And no. Fox News took that bait and chomped it up. Hotline and say Yes, sir.

Put line and sinker and now is bad black people are taking shots at politicians. Yeah. And it's black man. Of course. Of course so sick, sick cousin, but you remember what's the other guy's name a hawk or whatever. I called him Hall. What was his name? I think he went he went every time they wanted a black violet man. Right, right. Roll him out. Yeah, we'll get in blood. And we're just talking crazy. So this is just I think speculating. You know, cuz this is kind of like end of the show

kind of stuff. But it seems like this is too convenient. This is took him so it started made me think we did a show about this kind of right? Show 31. And that was Gabby Eugene, long three names, of course. Number 20. Number 26. First off self preservation. The first law of nature is the same thing. Same way as when America they put you on a mainstream they put on the mainstream media that is a new tyrant, a new enemy. And they go and physically do an assault on that

country is the same thing. And it's the same way how when I was in the Marines, I went in fall, you know what? United States because there was a so called enemy. So it's no other that is not different from someone fighting against you and assaulting you and you protecting yourself is the same way. There's nothing wrong with it. You got the right to defend yourself at any moment. If someone is assaulting you, and gang stalking is an assault on you physically, mentally,

spiritually, emotionally and psychologically. So you got to write to defend yourself at any moment. You got to write to preserve Yes. To preserve your life at any moment you choose. And you're gonna be right. Man, you think they got some kind of MK Ultra dungeon? They're at the University in Louisville. I do think so. I mean, that's where that's where Ted Kaczynski got his programming. University. You can't. Yeah, exactly. And you disappears near the universe.

Yeah. And for people that didn't know who that was talking, that was Gavin. Gavin Eugene, long. He was the Baltimore cop killer. That yeah, the Baton Rouge cop. Give me the Baltimore Baton Rouge cop killer. And he this is him on his YouTube video, talking about how he was gang, stop, stop. And for people that don't know who what gang stalked is, that is when they take several different people follow you around moving stuff around the house. Total manipulation on

the mind, to the point where it makes you crazy. And now we have this man here, no history of mental illness. All of a sudden, he shaves his head, shaved his hair off and just disappears into your saying into the ether around the university. And then he pops back up there saying gun wielding a tip that assassin crazy. That doesn't make any sense. But we saw this in 2016. This is how they took the pressure off with Black Lives Matter the first time. They had the two shootings, one in Dallas

one in Baton Rouge. And then they went underground until 2020. I think this is a similar case. Wow. So I could watch Yes. If you want to hear more from I got another clip from Gavin Eugene long if you like to hear it. Sure. I follow nature. I'm in tune with nature. Nowhere in nature, you go see a goddamn lion protest and when a gang guy has come to attack his ass, he will be peaceful protest and holding up signs. You're not gonna see it in nature anywhere. Because

self preservation is the first law of nature. Every animal in nature. I know human beings are not animals. But you have the right to preserve yourself. You can choose to or you can you don't have to fight that. That's that's the difference between human beings and animals. You have the choice, you see. But if you choose the fight back there are no consequences. So that's that's the difference. So a lot of teachers don't even know that harassment is a felony. stalking with harassment is a damn

felony. That's a felony charge. You definitely have the right to defend yourself. And if someone is and you know gang stalking is they're trying to attempt you. They're trying to make you attempt suicide. That's attempted murder. If someone is trying to tempt you to force to force you into suicide, isn't that attempted murder? Come on now. Let's open our eyes. Get it together eight. Defend yourself at all costs. Stand in your righteousness. Die in your righteousness period.

Yeah, yeah, Nim bring up. I have to bring up the Navy. First. Naval Yard shooter. Yes. Gosh, St. St. Mo. Yeah, hearing voices. What was that? Well, he actually wrote a shotgun on me. And man for something like a electromagnetic frequency and EMP excuse me EMP. He actually wrote that on the shotguns which a hotel room like three or four times that night, trying to get away from the voices. So I mean, this is not far. I know. It sounds crazy for the

listeners, you know, you know me. I'm all in on that. Mo. I'm good with the directed energy weapons. You bet. So now all of a sudden this guy just comes in and pop shots at the candidate for mayor. It doesn't make any sense. Right. And like you said Fox News at the hook. Like hook line and sinker. Yeah. Big time. So that mean, that's a little. We had to give people some theorem action. So yeah, they got it. They got it.

Now I have a mini block I want to get into. Okay. And this is a recent news and this is Joe Biden nominated black woman for Supreme Court. Talk about it. Yes, that's right. Check. The White House today declined to discuss the upcoming vacancy but said President Biden stands by that campaign pledge to nominate a black woman to a lifetime appointment on the Supreme Court and pointed to the diversity of judicial nominees. The President has already installed on the

federal bench. Does the President believe that the current makeup of the court accurately reflects America's demographics he has nominated a historic number of judges who are people of color, a historic I don't know if it's a stark number of women, but a majority of the judges he is nominated are women. That speaks to His desire and his interest and having courts around the country that look like America and that represent the experiences of America.

President Biden has nominated 62 women to the federal judiciary,

including 19 black women. Possible replacements for Justice Breyer, according to NBC News include judge Hitachi brown Jackson, whom the president interviewed personally for her position on the DC Circuit Court of Appeals, seen by some as a farm League for the high court and California Supreme Court Justice Leandro Krueger, South Carolina Democrat and key Biden ally Jim Clyburn has back to judge Michelle child's from his home state to fill the vacancy, any appointment would come at an

inflection point for Mr. Biden a potentially legacy defining pick after a series of policy defeats, and before that consequential midterm election that could cost Democrats their majority. President Biden's own experience with these nominations runs deep chairing the Senate Judiciary Committee for eight years, and witnessing firsthand the protracted failed

confirmation of Judge Merrick Garland in 2016. As to whether all 50 Democrats would unite behind the President's pick, today, the press secretary told me that's the hope. Yeah, that's the hope, the hope, yes, that's the they are really setting and building an excuse. Yeah, they may not be able to find a suitable candidate. Well, no, it's gonna be the white supremacist Democrats. It's gonna keep you know, when you hear that, it's like, oh, we

need all the Democratic votes. Now. We know. They've struggled to get all the Democrats on board for anything almost. Yeah. Was it mentioned and what's the other one? Right, there have been the white supremacist and not my words. That's what other Democrats are calling them right? Because they didn't vote for whatever they want them to vote. So I think that's that they're going to be the built in reason for him not doing it now. But I don't think it's gonna happen. But if if it was to

happen, I think it's interesting. I know who I think I know who's gonna win. But before we say that, this is no surprise. We knew they're trying to get the Supreme Court justice in black women, because they put that whole Washington Post thing. Remember, you always Joe Biden, right. Yeah. That made their list of demands then. But it's funny that 62 women were nominated. And this the numbers are based at 19. Roland Martin said eight eight black women under 62. Roland Martin has 24

black people were nominated and 24 Only eight were women. So it's like twice as many black men got it, and then it had to make any oath or pledge. I find it interesting. Yeah, yeah. So these numbers, these numbers are funny. So that's, I don't think they're gonna get it. Just because it's a mess there. Hope this should be a slam dunk. I mean, this should be, um, you know, all the all the Democrats should be on the same side. Now this leads to before I get into who I think is going to win.

This, I think they learned from Trump to say, if we get what we give them what they want, they might not show up in 2024. Right. We got to keep them engaged until after 2024. Because if you wanted to give him saying you will pull everybody into the room you say all the Democrats say you got to vote, please. Where they learn from Trump my theory. Oh, that really messed trump up. Yeah. When he gave the Republicans their their that third justice like, thanks. Now I don't need

you. Right. So I think Joe Biden understands that and he's gonna be like, well, we've tried but you know, and I think that's why he harped on matching and cinema like they did earlier. Because they're gonna be the ones or there'll be two or one or whatever it would just be posed up. Obsessed album cart. So that's my theory on I think they learned from Trump. Alright, who they're gonna pick? I think they're gonna pick Jim Coburn's. If they if they do it,

really I'll pick Yes. You remember Jim Clyburn was the kingmaker for Joe Biden. Oh, right. He she needs to get paid. Exactly. You everybody said what did he get out of this? He didn't get anything out of this. Right. And here it is. 29 Congressman Clyburn, thank you for joining us. Right now. Most Democrats think you're a kingmaker. But thank you very much for having me. And are you pretty confident now this is wrapped up for Joe

Biden? Sorry, you pretty confident now this is wrapped up for Joe Biden? Oh, yes, I am. I think that Joe Biden has run a great campaign. I think the numbers are coming in very clearly in his favor. I do believe that when things are said and done over the next 24 hours, he will be declared the winner. All of us are looking forward to that. He was just a great guy. Exactly what the country needs at this particular point. That's what

you said back in February. Take us back to that moment, I think was the Monday before the South Carolina primary, you came out and decided it was time to endorse and embrace Joe Biden walk us through your decision making process? Could you imagine it would have the impact that it had? No, I did not imagine that. But I do know that I was working. Now go out what you're wanting to hear his question. And listen to this double top. Jim does.

Okay, you came out and decided it was time to endorse and embrace Joe Biden walk us through your decision making process? Could you imagine it would have the impact that it had? No, I did not imagine that. But I do know that I was working hard to try to not only make an endorsement, but to do it in such a way that we give him a surge, which is what he needs. He has just come out of three primaries and lost all of them, and did okay in Nevada. But it was really his campaign was on

life support. And I knew this the kind of guy that we needed to have our nomination. I knew that I could own this bitch. That's what that's what he was thinking. Oh, wow, that's pretty good. Mo I like it. That would make a lot of sense. So I think if they do it, but I think Jim's gonna get you're saying get god. Yeah, yeah, he because he might get strung along for a bit there. What you have, if you can't give Black people what they won't know how that goes, come on. This next time, you say, my

hands are tied. And then you just rinse and repeat. We are not saying it's very flippantly but we've seen how this happens. If I ask you, right, yeah, yeah. You call us after the election. They're gonna tell Jim the same thing. What just cuz they're saying just for people say, Well, you read into what he said. Batman said he No. He said, No. And he say, No, I didn't know but he said I knew. And then he realized he's given.

He says, I thought I knew how you think you know, but just to solidify the fact that he knew that he had a Joe Biden right where he wanted him. Here's the endorsement, the official endorsement of Joe Biden by Cogburn. Fellow. I'm crossing with Jim Clyburn, and at least South Carolinians, but the one thing, the best way to tell what a person will do is look at what he or she has done. I know Joe

Biden. I know His character, just hawk and his record. Joe Biden has stood for the hard working people of South Carolina. We know Joe. But more importantly, he knows us. Joe will bill on President Obama's legacy, but can expand the Affordable Care Act and take on the NRA. In South Carolina. We choose precedents for President Clinton came to South Carolina. We launched him to the White House, and President Obama came

to South Carolina. We lost him to the White House. Now Joe Biden is in South Carolina and we are going to launch him to the White House. I'm calling on you to stand with Joe Biden. Yay. I thought you didn't know Jim first right I thought I knew I didn't kind of know you know all the presidents that they you know, they're put out your SAM to put a put in the office what me Kingmaker me a kingmaker. Now, I really, and that will be his legacy. You're saying by hitting the

Supreme Court jet. So I'll just say all this to say all this, you know, going outside you owe us Joe. Joe, you owe us. You're saying by the COVID the blue light blue light coven. Right. Jim, the whole town that had the cards. No kidding. It was Jim the whole time. Ah, so we're gonna see how it plays out. But there is one observation everybody has made about the majority of these possible people to be confirmed as the next Supreme Court justice. A lot of them have white husbands.

Oh, really? No. Yes. So much so that this is this is probably the greatest piece of pandering in mo facts with Adam curry history. The next one we bought I'm saying that this is not hyperbole strap. Folks strap in. This is Michael Eric Dyson. caping for for the Supreme Court Justice and Joe Biden. And I know some people got a problem with some of these women, man to white man. Yeah, I'm gonna go there this morning. Oh my god. What? Well, look, I don't know the situation. But

this what I do know some of them. A lot of them are dark skinned black women and some negros got a problem seeing the beauty in dark skinned black women. Don't you be mad because a white boy came along and saw what you threw away? I said as everybody I said as everything I'm not saying it's universal. But before you rag on them understand the story. Some of these darker skinned black women don't get no love would be could be in a place like Harvard, Princeton and Yale and the

brothers Dayton all white women. That's their choice if they want to do that, but look, kind of look at the demonization of darkness. Look at the chocolate charm that's being overlooked. Look at it and we got everything in the book, vanilla vitality. Carmel cuteness, chocolate charm, mocha magic. We got it all bruh and yet we overlook that right? Because we think that the white man's water is wet. And skin and flesh is

sweeter and sexier. So don't be mad at Black women who refusing to be by themselves if they wanted to be a partner accepted the love and devotion of a white man who saw their value beyond their skin in a way that certain black men could or saw the beauty and value in their skin. Not transcending their darkness inhabiting it in delicious fashion. But that's another story. Now when was this right afterwards? No, yes, but the evil so the evil white patriarchy man is smart.

By finding by finding and loving the lowly down dark skin, it was so it was so patronizing. And at same time disrespectful to dark skinned women. Yes. And while we talk about this, I want you to Google the air Michael Eric Dyson, his wife but the point I'm trying to make is this he went straight Method Man like chocolate did Lux butter pecan called me Poppy brown what is

you talking about? He was saying What are you talking about and then say that but he bought into them being dark skinned and something last name So it's weird what he did, but I've never heard somebody pander so hard. I'm Marcia Louis Dyson, a she an heiress. I don't know what she is, but you're saying she she she's up the ladder. Whew. I know that's much, but, but my point is this. These are the same people. They just shredded Clarence Thomas. I

don't I'm not here to take over Clarence Thomas. But what I'm saying is that the hypocrisy for him having a white wife, he wasn't like y'all he's a sellout. He's big he wouldn't even fight marry your sister. But then when it's on the Democratic side now you see what I'm talking about in the first year Sure. She's white. I didn't say I said she's like white light. Okay, like now he's talking about dark these dark skinned says the white bread and

white why you mean cuz you love who you love. I don't like getting into the colors argument. What I'm saying is that he accuses brothers, as he say, wanting to go by the light or white. But he did the same thing. And then he wants to demonize and we saw the same thing happen with a Roland Martin. The whole thing came up about Kamala Harris merito white man. Black men are haters. They're hate hateful to hate. So it made me wonder, why is MICHAEL DYSON so easily

persuaded? So I had to do a chicken. And I found ADL slams MSNBC pundit MICHAEL ERIC DYSON book comparing Clarence Thomas to Jews who sided with Hitler. Oh, so that's what they got on him. Hmm. Can this be how they can use Jenkins chain anytime they want to? And they can get him on NBC anytime they want to or get him kicked out. Think he's at Georgetown now. Anytime they want to. Could they can bring this up. I'll bet. So you see how it works? Yep. Unbelievable.

Yeah, there's this is like I said, people think I'll make this stuff up. But no, no, no, no, no. It's a mess. It's just fascinating how he went forges black man hate dark skin. What are you talking about? Nobody saying that. It's the fact that would you seen this trend? What's the head of the Justice Department civil rights Kristin? Yes. Yeah. White Man. Kamala Harris white man, most of these sisters here not to say you love

who you love. That's not the point. But when we start to question this trend, like y'all talk black, which are sweet white. And that reason why I bring that up because it's a double standard, because anytime a black man's would qualify. So that's my whole point of bringing that up. And it's just like my, I've never seen the level of pandering, you got out and that family? Y'all know what we gonna do in the last tapes. So y'all better show up I got the video. It means actual

video. This guy is ridiculously pandering and he has to be aware of how it's gonna come across. Or he's not fit to do the job he's doing if he's not aware he's gonna come across. But when they got leverage on it, you got to do what you say what you got to you got to do it. They were. So I mean, that's just they were saying that was the beast last week, see, blah. They're saying I'm talking about Joe Biden, and also a fat man, we're gonna talk

about him crack pipes, too. And Joe Biden's handing out? Is this I'm not a drug person. You're saying I wasn't in Hollywood around this kind of thing. And I'm not saying you are drug person. But isn't a crack pipe and a meth pipe the same kind of thing? I can't I don't know. I assume so. I tried to Google. And they all look the same to me. I don't know if they function in different ways. But you're not hiding labor as crack pipes to make it for racial and Jeremy ratio.

Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, in general, I would say, Well, I think metal straws. I really don't know mo but it's not what I'm just saying is like just black people in crack pipe. Well, we're gonna talk about that. Right, instead of meth pipe. It's crack pipe. And that always insinuates black drug addicts. Right. Yeah. So that just that part and Maxine Waters and Maxine Waters, I don't know for some reason when I hear crack pipe. I always think of Maxine Waters. I don't know. I don't know why.

Well, the thing is, like you said she knew what was happening out in California when it who was bringing all the drugs, yeah, CIA that she got quiet. Maybe it was costing her associations. Were being anti semitic. I don't know maybe I'm just saying probably, but that's the end of the C slash BS B slash C Block. And we think some more producers buy like brand new money.

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new travel for popular podcast with Joe Rogan. He is apologizing this morning over past use of a racial slur this as another artist as Spotify to remove music in protest. MCs Earnshaw has more good morning serene. Good morning Eva. We cannot even tell you the first letter of the word that Joe Rogan wants repeatedly used. That is how it is really star podcast are now coming under even greater scrutiny. You can't even say N word anymore. We can't even mention the first letter. Oh no let me guess.

The word has actually been banned and wow you would know we'll never on my part out we'll never discuss the N word on this show because it's so triggering it was an hour just understand the weight of you do you do as well of course but it's gotten so sent out and the reason why I brought it up my you stopped I'm glad you did but I wasn't sleep you call it? You can't even say inward anymore. That's let alone actual inward. The first time I heard this, I've

never heard this. I've never heard this. Back to the clip. Good morning. Eva. We cannot even tell you the first letter of the word that Joe Rogan wants repeatedly used. That is how bad it is. The star podcasts are now coming under even greater scrutiny. This morning Spotify reportedly removing over 70 episodes of The Joe Rogan experience from their platform.

This comes as the embattled podcaster is now apologizing for what he says is a regretful and shameful use of a racial slur multiple times over several years on his show. There's no context where a white person is ever allowed to say that word nevermind publicly on a podcast. And I agree with that. Now, I haven't said in years. Rogan's use of the racial slur resurfacing after r&b singer India reposted a compilation spanning several years on Instagram, you know,

saying the word you already said. He is just like it's a video that's made of clips taken out of context of me of 12 years of conversations on my podcast, and it's all smushed together. And it looks horrible, even to me. Ah, well, I think we are the two guys to talk about this now, aren't we? I think we're the only two Yeah, I think we I think we actually come with with qualifications for this one. Right. And, and skin in the game. Cuz we do have the Joe

John ammo. Producers. Yeah, you know, I know you and Joe are cool. Yeah. But at the same time, I when you're in the media, we got to talk about it. And that's what we're gonna do next. Now, I just want to say one thing I heard in that clip, which I only realized now, he said, That's the word as a white man I should never use and then he said, let alone publicly on a podcast. I found that interesting. So is he saying nobody should use it on the podcast?

No. What I the way I hear what you heard. What I what I heard was, well, maybe okay, if I do it in private? Am I reading too much into it? No, no, I read when I heard it was not he should never say it should never be said on a podcast. Voice it is publicly ever seen. Yeah. I said, well, but he said a white man publicly on a podcast that that's I don't know. I don't know. The thing was Joe is I know him is a very sweet, very charitable, incredibly kind man, to everybody. So you know that

that's just how I know him. So it's hard for me to even think that he could, that he could say think that Oh, but I can do that in private. I'm just covering all the bases here. And the thing is, like, this is how I see it all the way he said it was taken out of context. And that's not what I found offensive. And what we're gonna we're gonna get to what I for me as a black man found offensive. Because if you're saying in context, or reading lyrics, or, or, or album titles, or some quoting lot

movie lines, it's kind of like, as a as a media person. Are you allowed to say that? I don't know. They're saying, If I would have heard it real time, and I understand the context. But what I'm saying is one, this was a hit this this was a clip I want to make clear, this was a clear hit. The COVID stuff wouldn't work. And so they had say, you know, what, who can we piss off? To get him off of here? We can't do it ourselves. Once again, they go back to the workers. It's like we're out here. Let's

get a dark skinned woman. Yep. Because that played into it. Let's get a dark skinned woman to come out here to say she was offended by it. And will whatever these clips were being surfaced or been going around or whatever, like that, and that that was the whole point. Now the reason why I find this disrespectful is they look at black people like we're attack dogs, that they can just point and say sick, right to sick, right? And this goes back to the first block If we call him the

hit went doing your dirty work for you. That's the whole, that's the whole point about it is just like this is, this is about autonomy. I'm not your guy, I'm not your guard dog. And this makes me think of Animal Farm. Man, when the pigs took over, they took the dogs in the house, and they train the dogs. And that's how they maintain power on the farm. This is exactly the case of that. They think black people are their

attack dogs. And I was so proud of black people, for the most part was like, Nah, we're not doing that we're not doing your dirty work for you. Um, you can't see them yourself. Without us getting involved. They really can get hit take taking down. Now another thing about that first clip? The reason why they I don't think they said the inward, they don't want to destroy Joe. They want to co opt him. Oh, for sure. Oh, definitely. And oh, you don't want

to use them? We don't want to ruin them use them up a little bit. Useful. No, he's useful. And he's got an open microphone, which we now have already pressured him into saying, Yeah, I want to have one me, you know, one opinion on the next show get another opinion on. So that's the pressure to have certain type of voices heard.

Right. And I would like to take the time to say you're saying I don't know you want to talk about this not by fillers necessarily talking about I did call you and I know Joe's your friend. And and it's like this, if one of my friends. Like just like star for instance, if star wasn't a jam, you know, saying, I would like to have the ability to opt out like eight out of 10. I really want to talk about this. But I'll guarantee to the producers. In fact, family. If we ever did that, we will still

come here and talk about why we don't want to talk about it. You don't say just because I understand I'm aware of if we don't talk about it, then it's like oh, Adam, you're saying pulling most chain? Yeah, so yes, Mo called me. And I didn't even understand what you were asking initially. Like, have you talked about the the Rogan thing? And I'm like, Yeah, I talked about the wrong thing. There's no agenda and all this. And I was like, Oh, you mean the

N word thing? No, no, of course not. There's only one man in the world that I need to talk about that with on a podcast. And if I asked the Vortech he'd say, Man, you need to talk to me about that. And so and this is this to me. And I, the way I perceive Joe and my friend Joe, is he be actually very delighted if he heard that we were the ones discussing this the way only we can and it's a hell of a lot more useful. I think for us to

do that. Then then most right, so the thing I was like I said, once again, the thing I was upset by one couple things upset me one that people think they can just say attack and we attack. We don't work like that. Those days are over. You're saying is steal people's gone? I'm saying just fly off the handle. But no, it's what am I getting out of it? It's hacking take him down. I heard I heard a lot of black people pushing back say wow, you know, I mean, they didn't really, they just would have

like, swerve a little bit of mumbling out of context. There was no uprising, if that's what you mean, is because it was this is how dumb they think we are. It was so thinly veiled it's fresh off of the the COVID attacks. And then you come right back with the racist attack. Yeah, and I don't want to put anything out into the ether. But you know, there's gonna be another attack. If you're saying if you don't understand you're saying, you know, D needs to stay in line.

And it's gonna show you this house. This is how the media works. Now, I want to get to the second part of the era. Yeah, the G the GMA clip, are we protesting Rogan's language requesting Spotify removed her music? My hope is that some of my artist friends would follow in come along with me. Because one of the hashtags I put on my

posts was what if we all leave? There's absolutely no circumstance that a white person should be using that racial slur period, Spotify, his space growing pressure over Rogen show artists like Joni Mitchell and Neil Young taking down their recordings over Rogan spreading COVID misinformation at Spotify right now is finding itself in a very serious predicament because on the one hand, they say they don't censor creators, but they've also got people saying things that are

untrue and potentially damaging in a public health sense and racist on their platform. They've got to draw the line somewhere. Dwayne The Rock Johnson initially showed support for Joe Rogan through the COVID controversy, but he appears to be distancing himself now tweeting that he did not know about the use of the racial slur. Meanwhile, Spotify has not publicly commented on the recent controversy. The Rock the rock you got that call? I don't care how big you think you are rock. They were like a

step out the way. They said a rock, you know that spot on the Superbowl you got coming up? He be ashamed if you know you got pulled? Yeah. Ah, you know, that kind of thing. So just like I said, that's exactly what happened with him this exactly what happened with him. I don't know how y'all down. But the thing is, is this hearing any comments hearing in a context? That didn't really

upset me? Um, but I wasn't set with some of the stuff. He said, I think I'm gonna keep it 100. And I always keep we were saying 100 with the family. And I think and I, as we talked briefly, before the show about this, I think I anticipate well, you took offense at which I wholeheartedly agree with it, maybe more, but we'll find out. So what we're going to do is we'll get to that. But Andy arry even got reeled in, it's like, whoa, whoa, whoa, they're

calling Joe racist. You need to go out here and clean it up, that he's not a racist. And I'm like, why would she post that man? If it wasn't she didn't think he was racist, is that she wanted a better cut for artists on Spotify. And, and this and this is the problem with this whole argument is and that's Neil Neil Young has always been angry with Spotify. All it's about Spotify, not about Joe Rogan. They're just taking advantage of it. Oh, my God. We had Elton John Phil

Collins, a whole bunch of British artists, I think. I think Paul McCartney, maybe just a year ago trying to start a campaign against Spotify and streaming payments which believe it or not all that money is going to the record companies who own their asses own their masters and they cut the deal they even got stock in Spotify that's that's how corrupt that Spotify businesses with the music and they know it they know what happened to our say to India I read the same thing I said in the first block

you if you got got your own fault, you signed that class, right? So you can't come and whine and complain try to leverage black people's emotion and pain. That's why I found more sick about it from her side. You know what you're doing? You know what that word evokes? You know what the incident and you know the inferiority complex that come along with that word. And most I'll be honest with you, most time when a white person call you that you probably doing

something right? Because it just seemed like they don't want you to keep doing it. That's all I'm gonna say about that word. Cuz I mean, like I said, as is so you can't, you can't that's one of the things you really can't empathize on. Because the way it's designed, um, let's go ahead and get into MDR re talking to Don Donald Donald. Donald and say about how she was upset but not really upset by after highlighting a barrage of racist language repeatedly

used by Joe Rogan. But she says she's not looking for him to be cancelled. And singer songwriter NDI Reed joins me now in via you know, I love you. I love I love you since the moment you met you met and meeting your music. Thank you for joining us. I think you're you're I think you have a very nuanced perspective about this. And I really respect it you say that Joe Rogan has spurred this protest but it's not actually about him. What's it about ma'am?

I love you to a box make me cry by playing I'm light in my intro it's about the influence of energies. Because there is Joe Rogan, his insensitive language around race. There's that and there's also Spotify in their treatment of artists. And there's that so you, you were listening. You said you just started tuning out and what did you mean by when you held your hand up and you said you have an issue with Spotify? Because you have this

and then you have what do you mean by that? Explain to the viewer well I feel like the average person confuses celebrity culture. I'm gonna hold my hands up again because my my opinions are always nuanced. I think human beings we're doing so I feel like the average person confuses celebrity culture with being a working musician. Yeah, okay.

That was that was the whole point of we want a better cut Yeah, I think we should all go that was talking about that wasn't talking about black people who that was talking to other artists. You're saying let's how it was a strike. It was a worker strike or threat of a worker strike and what's what's so funny in a sorry, just interrupt about

Spotify. If you really want to hear some offensive shit, listen to some of the music on Spotify. I mean that there's, there's a lot of, you know, songs about black men killing black men. No, there's actually an artist that killed black men. Killing Batman. Yeah, I'm just kidding. She's keeping Yeah, she's keeping actually. women, women and rap about it. Well, I'm just gonna stay at the cumin. There's actually a Deaf culture. And shout out to my man ayoko psycho. He is doing

another YouTuber. He's doing this whole thing about you know, the rat trap. And they have it there's an actual an active game of murder going on between rappers right now. Where they're killing each other. And Spotify plays his music. And they talk about all the people that kill and who you're gonna kill. I'm talking about lifting nightlight, someone so got shot, someone so got shot, someone still got shot. And you hear it like that person who raps about it, he'll end up in the news.

He's dead. And then they'll come back the other side of combat and say, someone still got shot? Don't they go down the list and he'll get shot. Chicago, Memphis, he was saying all these towns? And they have no problem. What? What's that call? How do we call that category? Well, it's just it's called drill rap. I mean, she probably heard it come up and saying that it was the mayor of New York, is they have time to do something with it. Yeah, um, but it's the

whole culture. It's like an interactive flight. It's like Grand Theft Auto but in real life, right. All they want to do is go around, and they rap about who got cute, and you're saying and then when you do that, that's disrespect. So that puts a target on your back. And when they call the ops or the other side comes and try to kill you. And Spotify profits off of this. And I you like so? Oh, I'm more upset about that. Yes, ma'am. And a profit and dead black man and I am about saying podcasts

are standing inward now. Oh, hello. We're waiting on that job. Kanaka field eyes rolling. We can't let you off the hook. I'm gonna tell you what sent me about Joe. Joe, if you're listening, I'm just gonna keep it 100 With you, bro. That monkey stuff. I knew it. That monkey stuff. Yeah. That leads to black people being subhuman. And I can't give you a pass on that one. Full stop. I can't give you a pass on that one. Because that leads into the justification of slavery because

they're subhuman. So we have to be their their protectors. And I know he didn't mean it that way. But what I'm saying is that's far more offensive offensive. And it's not even a fist is triggering. And like I said, this is this goes into the racial programming of his time there he sub subhuman. So hold on, like, oh, no, I'm subhuman. So that means you know, you think, you know, I can't think But in fairness, this is where we're gonna get the full context. I have the whole clip

of Joe Rogan talk about the Planet of the Apes. And we're gonna go through it, we can listen to it, you can stop anytime you want, you have to listen to the whole clip. But this is what went like I said, when I heard that whole clip where she played. And I've heard this Planet of the Apes thing before and people's being upset about it before. So it's nothing new there. But I had to give a full analysis of how it's

received. So hopefully, people can learn from it, I understand why it's offensive, the monkey thing and, and I'll say that I can because I've thought about this, I heard that too. All of this has been around I've seen that I've seen the N word clips and you know, so it was actually quite surprised that hadn't been compiled, pre know, some other stuff about

women. And most of that's, most of that seems like grainy old video so I don't really know the context there was there was years and years of Joe Rogan experience I was never interested because it just seemed like a bunch of dudes hanging out drinking smoking, and and talking crap. So it never really became interesting until the long form interviews till Joe perfected his format. But I cannot personally think of any instance where I would use this make this comparison. Not

not in a joke. Nothing is baffling to me. And now and now I have not heard the whole thing in context. So it'll help we have everything here. Yes, this the whole five minutes on some odd seconds continuous. I just put up in clips, so we have space to you know, so you didn't have to stop it perfectly. You know, it's the whole five minutes of No, no interruption, so I just want to play it so people can hear it and I'll give my commentary on it and you can give me Your feedback or you can hear what

you heard. And maybe Thank you. You're, you're saying, you got it, you got to get into 36. So anyway, we, we can't go to there. So I go, you got to go to one where there's planet inks, man, we're gonna go see Planet of the Apes. So I look on the iPhone app, and it says, Okay, take me to this one. And the guy goes, Okay, goes out in a good neighborhood. There's a young guy barely speaks English. He takes us there, we get out and we're giggling Uzi, please, we

walk into Planet of the Apes. We walked into Africa. We walked in the door. And there was no white people. There was no white people. We planted the incident take place in Africa. That was a racist thing. You see what I'm saying? What I'm saying is fine. Automatically stuck to your head. Yeah, what would happen is we walked into the blackest neighborhood we could find I mean, it was there was literally no white people. It was amazing. And everybody was super cool. You know, it wasn't a negative

experience. And this is something I wrote on on Twitter that we all went to see Planet of the Apes in a black neighborhood and experience I highly recommend, and all these fucking people started calling me a racist. I mean, dozens of Twitter people do I know you were racist. Fuck you, like black people are saying fuck you. I'm like, Listen, man, I am saying it was a positive experience. I highly recommend and it was a black neighborhood.

Alright, so you want to hear what I heard? Sure. What I heard was Taketake it. We hung out with monkeys. But it was cool. They were like a petting zoo. And I was scared to go in there with those monkeys. But when I got in there, everything was cool. So wait a minute. So the but the the original premise, if I understand properly, is they wanted to see the movie Planet of the Apes in a completely black neighborhood? I don't know. I don't think I don't know if that's the only

place that was available. And that's where they went. I don't know. But what I'm just saying is to think that it wouldn't be cool. That's the racist part right now. You know, saying like, ooh, like, we're gonna like be crapping in our hand and throwing it at the screen. That's what I'm saying. That's how it's perceived. Now he even acknowledged Dave Sandy was in Africa was racist. So he's self aware. Oh, hold on. A self aware of how it lands is what I'm saying? No, of

course, of course. How does he? How does he understand the monkey comparison? When he says, Dude, there were no white people there. How does that hit you? I don't care. I don't care about it's about the sub human part is that what upsets people and it's not about looking like a monkey coffee. That's what think people think like, oh, you know, look, their brain knows the comparison. Yeah, it's the actual intelligence thing. That's that's the thing that

think that we're subhuman. Like, we're the missing link. You're saying on the evolution chain. And a lot of this goes into Darwinism. See you now we are we we like this is a good setup for another show. itself is racist. To truck unbelieving. Yeah. You know, saying so that's that's another reason why I set this up the way I did, because this only lands to you're saying like we're subhuman in it. And when we have intelligence, that's the

that's the you're saying, Oh, wow, that's a smart one. In maths where the Talmud 10 Boulais stuff comes from is that oh, we got smart one here. Well, why would I be done? Normally? I don't understand that. Mo. You're different. That's a different thing is races? Uh huh. Of course, I've never said that to you have ever said that. Like that. I don't think I would say that. Well, what different can be used in different ways? Different of you don't have the political views as most people.

Yeah. It's already loaded, though. That's what like I said, it's about how things are received, because it's processed through the racial programming. Well, I don't I don't think Joe has any idea how this was received. He does now of course, but I think he still doesn't really really understand it. And hopefully when he hears this, because I know he listens. Hopefully, he'll get it in this life. That's not me saying I

pretty have a white guy. It's like y'all are you know, that kind of good rhythm for white guy? Yeah. Unfortunately, unfortunately, you know, the racial programming I have is that is meant to immediately be I know, right? It's immediately. I'm not supposed to be offended by that. That is that is a that's a lifeline. Is that cause that's how it was portrayed in the media? That's correct. You know, it's the fact that it's supposed to be a

compliment. I think it was rhythm. I don't like you're supposed to beat but what are you saying like 90% of white people don't have, I don't understand how that poster work, you know. But at the same time, let me say I will say amongst my white brothers and sisters, there's a lot of clapping on the one in this three, I have to admit that it's just different I get mad love, I love me some river dancing. It's just a different rhythm we all got. That's the whole point.

We all got rid of them. It's just different rhythms. You know, we got all got intelligence, it's just different intelligence. Sure. So that's what we had there appreciate. But we have to understand the media shapes things in a certain way, where, you know, years and years and years of portraying black people as monkeys, not the fact of being a monkey, but it's like you have the intelligence of a subhuman. I gotta tell you the story, I have to share this. I'm sure she

will be going back to our school teacher. And, uh, she got in huge trouble, like massive trouble. And it was a total fuckup. So remember, she's advanced placement. So you know, but it is public school. And there was this one, I think it was an Asian girls, it was before class. And the Asian girl is showing she has a cute little purse with a little monkey on it. You know? And so they're just chatting. And then another

girl walks in another student. And and this is She's a very loving public school teacher says hey, monkey, how you doing? Now, why she said that is a term of endearment. She had just seen a monkey on the, on the on this little purse. And of course, the student who had just come in was black. I mean, oh, no. Oh, yeah. But that's what she triggered and like this the same thing in it. And because I know our school t shirt, she's not

racist, but holy crap. I mean, that was almost career ending for her. I bet it was because it's about how it's received. And the little girl was traumatized. Of course. Of course. Of course, too. Anyway, that that was just an example of how trauma even though this was a real mess up. And she clearly didn't mean to call the student a monkey. But how deeply deeply triggering that was. And this, the whole thing was an uproar.

And the ratio programming can also be into race. Yes, right now, as black people sitting on the edge of their seat, to see how I'm going to handle this, and I'm aware of that, Okay, I'm ready. I know where we're going. No, I'm just saying, but that's, that's the whole thing. You're like, oh, well, I gotta, I gotta say something. But, you know, should I say something? Should I not say something? I mean, these thoughts go in your head, but me. I don't know, I'm maybe I'm

just crazy like that. I mean, that's me, I get it from my dad. It's like, I'm gonna say what I feel. You know, and if you don't like me because of that, I mean, so be it. But I gotta say, I mean, I gotta say how I feel I can't live with myself. And that goes back into the point of how I made a decision I made, I have to live with myself at the end of the day, you know, because I mean, when this is all said and done, like with a shot, I couldn't live with myself. That's why I made the decision.

Speaking on this, you know, saying I gave you the opt out, because like I said, if something comes down with one of my friends, but we will still come here and say, You know what, we're not gonna talk about this. And this is why, and we're still gonna have a conversation. Oh, no, no, this is this is the actual learning moment from it all. Everything that did on mainstream, and his apologies

is, is Oh, whatever. But this is the learning this, this is where you can really understand what the real problem is. Exactly. So let's go and get to 37. And we get in there, right. And we're so we're so giggly. And then I realized like, whoa, everyone's black here, like, Well, I mean, everyone's black. It is crazy. And then a bunch of people recognize me and just don't want to take pictures. And it's all good. Everybody's cool and friendly. Surely shit cool.

Like this guy goes, Yo, man. I don't wait. I know you from I don't want to I don't want to bother you, man. I'm not trying to use up your time. Well, I know you from I go Fear Factor. I go. Yeah, that's it. You made this was the ways that it was like so cool. And we're giggling Oh, no one did the smoke rocks thing, but I took a lot of goddamn pictures. And like I said, super cool. Super friendly. This is not a negative story. So then we go into the movie Good, right? It's me

Tommy. And like, maybe there's another white person, maybe one other white person, movie theater filled with black people and they are having a good fucking time. You know, people always complain that black people talk to the movie theater and talk to screen. Yes, they do. Yes, they do. But it's good. Fucking Yeah, if that's what you know. And the way I felt like I'm like, Look, I'm in their neighborhood. This is how they

go to the movies. Who the fuck am I to be offended by how they like to go to the movies. Okay, so I respect that because he realized that he was saying, Hey, I'm in there too. same territory, or a married neighborhood, wherever you want to put it, hey, they thought to the movies, you're saying the movie screen, that's what we're gonna do.

And I will say I had this experience Time Square 1988 When Times Square was still dangerous, and I went to the premiere of coming to America, and I'd only been in New York for about a year and a half. And it was one of the most exhilarating experiences I've ever had. I'd never been to a movie theater like that. Ever. Because we were the OG reaction. Video, it was the same thing. We Black History Month we started it.

It was it was it was an IT remember I was I was basically, I really didn't know much at all about black American culture because I'd grown up in Europe. And you know, that's why I will walk on Time Square, I was, you know, clearly a very pasty white guy I would never wear I'm never afraid of anything or anybody because I walked among color all the time. That's how I grew up. But that was that was a phenomenal experience. So that part, I totally understand what I didn't actually know that the

theater would be be like 99%. Black. But we have a different experience when we watch movies. Oh, fun. Yeah. But that's just culturally, us. Yeah. And that's the beauty like saying, just appreciate the beauty of it. And the thing, like I said, he went into this and the only thing I take offense to is why wouldn't you think it would be cool? What what would make you think that it wouldn't be cool? Well, that's his programming. Practice. That's my point. And

that didn't my program is triggering off his program. Why wouldn't you? Well, but isn't that what we know? Isn't that why in the words of Malcolm with the only way we're going to figure this shit out as we sit down? We talk about it because it turns out, hey, you know, like, I thought you were gonna be triggered about my being triggered about you're being triggered or thinking me being triggered, and it's all dumb. And then we do this weird dance and be awkward around. Yeah, this is

just like, You know what, this is how I feel. You know what, I don't feel that way. But like I said, the hard thing I took away from it was the the thinking he was implanted at eight is like, Yeah, but now I'm not. We're not subhuman. No, no, but that that. I don't know. It's just that's comes from years and years and years and decades and centuries of black people would just wild out on you at any moment. It's no, that's not how it works.

Well, let's, let's see, what else is there anything else triggering in this bit? Let's go ahead and go to 38. They, they were at the movies, and I'm not saying all black neighborhoods do this. But this particular black neighborhood, these people brought babies, bro. I mean, there's a lot of

people with babies. Yeah, I mean, it wasn't just one. These these people in front of us walked in and they had toddlers, like little two year olds sitting on their lap to see PLANET OF THE FUCKING Apes at like 1040 on a Friday night, give a fuck. give a fuck not didn't give a fuck. But I'll tell you what made me really nervous and made me feel kind of weird, was watching all of these previews of all these different TV shows, or all these different movies, rather, they're coming

out. And I'm watching these movies, and all of them are about white people. Oh, weird. And I'm sitting there and I'm going wow, this is weird. Like, imagine being a black person. And I always thought like, people would complain, like, I'd hear black people complain about, you know, oh, there's no films for black people. There's no roles for black actors. And I believe so. Go make a movie. What do you want from me? You know, but when you go to a goddamn movie theater was all

black people. That's when you really feel it. I'm sitting there in the audience. And all these people are black, but every movie preview is white. Well, that's Joe getting some awareness right there.

You only get awareness from this experience. That's right. And that's why if when you go in a room with the black going back to the a block when you bring somebody into your saying you want to make some money, or where do they offended you, you educate them, and that's why they tend to Jewish people do that? By saying let me make sure it's clear. We won't have a rabbi comes out the price educate you on why this is important. As well, they don't want us to do that. They want us

to be upset, mad right away, it doesn't get solved. And then we go and then they always can keep us as an attack dog. And when I say they, I mean the capital T H. E Y day, because it's functional for them. It's like winning anybody and we won't take somebody down. They were saying we can say something say they say something right. So so doesn't that say a lot I mean you're hearing about The fans who, once they recognize it was Joe in this theater, doesn't

that say a lot about how? really interestingly how mature we are that there wasn't that that black America didn't immediately go into into outrage and start yelling said, Yeah, you know, we kind of know Joe Rogan. He may be I'm just paraphrasing you tell me if I'm off base. Like we know Joe Rogan, he doesn't seem like you know, he fucked up and we he's got to know which of course, there's never any designated person who does that.

There's a whole bunch of douchebags. Yeah, I would say the bigger lender to that was the we understood that somebody was trying to trigger a Right, right. dirty work for right now. We say if we're trying to call to take down how it goes is a Joe, if I'm saying if I'm, if I'm calling the shots, hey, Joe, we need to talk. You know, in that clip, he was talking about the monkeys, you know, how you said it wasn't a representation, you're saying only white people on the screen, you empowered to

do something about that. Now, Joe, here's our hate for you. We could definitely work this out, Joe. Transactional, this is how I, this is how mature people work things out, right, it's a transaction. Now what we're gonna do, it was Black History Month to honcho, what we're gonna need is gonna need some

black people on your show all of this month. And then we're gonna need to talk some of your Hollywood fans about that lack of representation in Hollywood, that that's how you work these things out on a transactional level, but they wanted us to be on our emotional level. And that's why you didn't see the outcry that you saw, because people are getting hip to death, timing. Great. That's improvement that's winning. You're getting you make what is getting emotional about

something gets you other than your emotional release. And you go back to the same circumstance that you were in, you know, when you're, when you're saying you can leverage, you know, your yo, me, it's leverage. I mean, it is what it means business, you know, anytime you can leverage something over somebody, you know, and it's not about destroying them is just like you admit yourself is like a representation, right? You know,

do something about it. You know, and let me just one more thing, before we get to his last clip, there was some other things that guests he had on their time on the bell curve, and black people or people of color were a proponent, or more likely to saying be violent and that kind of stuff. I don't want any of that taken down. Because what I rather have is, scholars come in and debate you and prove you wrong. See, we need to stop this, all we need to do is hurtful. Take it out, take it

out, put no in invite, y'all have a list. Here's a list of people, we want to invite those guys back this pushing the bell curve and all this other stuff. And I'm gonna bring these guys over, we don't have a debate that the only thing I'm gonna push back on that because Joe Rogan show is not a debate show, and everybody wants to do this. Every everybody wants Joe to have two people on debating. That's not what that show is. So I'm going to push back on that

having having other people on. Absolutely. But debating now that the show, let me say this about debate to counterbalance that. Whatever. Not wherever agenda was pushed that time. He says Oh, Mike, so let's have some counterbalance to it. Right had to be on the same show. I understand. But the danger there, because that's what he admitted he would do. And the danger there is who is going to push who gets to push those buttons. It ain't gonna be no, ain't gonna be more fast.

I agree with you on that one, because he's gonna be the blue light. Yes, sir. That's exactly what it's gonna be. That's why we need to have independent grassroot representatives you need to give me you need to give me the damn list. And I give the damn list of Mo to Joe. That's That's it? Give me the list. Okay, I'll give him the list. And I'm not going to make the list. Like I said, everybody listening, you're saying whatever you give us the list. I look, I can't make the list. Joe can't

make the list. And go does the list. Joe does the list himself. It's Joe's list. Right? So what you're saying is this is the fact that all it needs to be two sides of the conversation just like when you had Sanjay Gupta up there you have a Dr. Malone. You're saying to counterbalance it Sure. This this? That's all I'm saying that I'm not the one to make the list. But there needs to be

effort put. And that's why I said if you have somebody actually what this proves his lack of representation on the black side, morning standard issue you're saying of his. I'll draw on and I'll draw an analogy. So whenever I've been on there and I talk about Bitcoin, then the whole Bitcoin communities like ether community, everyone's got to have that person on that person on that. And you know what the

result is? No one gets on. There's got to be a better way to have a list because I can already I already know, I know already the people are gonna come out of the woods. Oh, I mean, I get it all the time you go on Joe Rogan, here's the thing you get. Hey, man, you know, you should tell Joe, he should have so and so on. I get this 10 a day. And I'm sure you I'm sure you get that because the same thing,

I might have a much smaller platform. But you always say, Oh, you need to have this personal you need to have that person. Oh, yeah. It's just like, I want to talk to people to interesting. And it's not the point like say, that's the opening show. So what I'll say is, I guarantee you, I know, knowing Joe, he's a very thoughtful dude, he sits and he's not I mean, he works a lot but he thinks a lot. And he reads a lot. And he and I share all kinds of stuff that I mean, you

remember my first or second appearance? I was talking about a das you'd never heard of it. You know this? This is a process you know, it takes a little while. And by the way, not a lot of help from a das when I did that. I got a lot of people's And who the fuck are you to talk about it. Look, I'm this is a process, no matter who it is. And I think Joe got a turbo charge. We'll see. We'll see. But I have a good feeling is that when you bring stuff to the table, it makes them aware

of it to say, oh, there's a boss. There's actually exactly it's not there. That's my point. But But my point is when people are allies are helping or whatever. Don't shoot the fucking messenger because I got a little gun shy, huh? You know, I'm like, Well, hey, dude, there's a das and there's some shit going on that I'm just learning myself. You know, the what? The knee jerk reaction is dad was this cracker talking about this shit. We need this person on that person. That's not helpful.

It's no different. It was no different in the Bitcoin community. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. That's not helpful either. And I always say a whole variety of different agendas, brother agenda, agenda, agenda, points of view. Now No, cuz if you say eight off the bat, people gonna say what about us? And if you say, I know Yeah, you're gonna and no matter no matter what I say the hotel has always been told me I know.

Right? Yes, that's my whole point is but open it up to when you're only when you're pushing stuff like black people are prone to violence like we need to we need to talk to somebody to counter that, you know? Yes, a hell of a hell. That's not what I'm saying. That kind of stuff. Just like with the Sanjay Gupta, Dr. Malone, that would be the perfect balance. Gotta have him on the same show him saying he didn't even want to dress

each other directly. But it was like less and I get it Joe Rogan's podcast is to put a fringe ideas out there, I get it, by the mudslide. That's why people tune in the mudslide, aliens, UFOs, all these different things, things that you don't hear on the mainstream. I get that. But there's a there's an opportunity for that as well. And I'm just saying if you if we were the ones that called him to task, but obviously we were not when I said the quote unquote black

community are not the ones that push this agenda. No, if we were that's how it happens, because trust me