More facts with Adam curry for February 2 2022. This is episode number 75. Two episodes in two weeks back to back. Yes, we are on fire. I'm Adam curry coming to you from the heart of the Texas Hill Country and time once again to spin the Wheel of topics. All the way to Northern Virginia. Please say hello to my friend on the other end Mr. Mo facts. I know Adam. Mo I'm good. What are we doing man? Back to Back?
Well, we owe two people episode for the one we skipped. And that makes sure we get back on the cycle because you know a Mopar schedule a cycle dependent. Yes, we have we have cycles that need to intersect. Hey, by the way, Mo in the words of Morgan Freeman, Happy Black History Month. Capri, Happy Black future month. Where the Kanye Yeah. Oh, is that what he's that's what he said Happy Black future month. Well, no, he was saying we need to stop focusing on the history
more on the future. That was a yeah, now it's just it's it always makes me laugh black history month in February. The shortest month the count and the coldest. The coldest. Yeah, that's true. Hey, well, I'm very excited. So I guess we have a is this a little shorter than normal? Will this be less than five hours today? Or I think we should get out here before five hours. I always love it though. Always an education.
Yeah. So um, he's gonna be we're going to go back over some themes because there's been a common theme that's been running through the show. And what happened to what we discussed on the last show and the recent events in my personal life, I think this show is going to be I just thought more personal show. So, okay, well, we like the personal shows. And these are always the most interesting to me. So let me crank it up here. Let's get the real topics going on. We're gonna find out what it is.
Rhonda Rhonda goes, What's the topic for today's show? Nobody knows. Well, Moe does know because he put it together for us once again, the topic for more facts with Adam curry episode number 75. is not to be okay. Okay, it's okay not to be okay. It's okay not to be okay. And this is a personal show for me just talking about personal experience. But also doing it if I'm going through this, it might be other people out there is going through the same thing. And the point I mean by it's
okay not to be okay. We're coming up on a week to the day when I found out I was going to be fired. And I'm going to stop using the word separated or parted ways with my company it is what it is I was fired. No doing on my own other than want to want to maintain medical autonomy. Um, now I lasted. And I'll keep saying that a company I'm a capitalist. So a company has the right to do or companies have the right to do what they
want. But my issue is the coercion that went to use and it took place and now you're hearing well you did it on your own choice you did it on your own choice. I'm the equivalent would be say a me to issue right if a person was to quit their job because they were put in an awkward situation. And then they were told oh you quit on your own choice? No, this is a very tough situation and so just to be honest with the producers and
the family I have been angry as hell. I have been mad um well this is very understandable you put theirs you said before you've told me how the social contract was broken and that is partially the the world in general but certainly the whole idea of a corporation in America where you start and you know 15 years later you're basically kicked to the curb with a with a letter is very letter
not even have didn't even have my name on it. That's that's really just have employee number it no it just says basically like an open I wish I had it here close to me. But it was basically like you so whoever was whoever it making certain kind of situation. Wow. Yeah, there was no no there was nothing personal about it. Completely call in and it did it. Did it did it and was like, you can contact HR too. To finalize stuff or anything like there,
it is final. The note was the final news and the final. But healthcare and stuff like that I mean that well, they said you'll be kicked off at the end of the month, they gave me a week to find health care. Enjoy the marketplace and all the spam that Obamacare brought us there, brother. Oh, my God. I mean, I basically had to cut my phone off. Messages and the calls. It's the worst. Yeah. But my issue is that this government, United States government, you know,
colluded with corporations. That's to get rid of the undesirable Yep. And, you know, I didn't think this what, I am not surprised. Just being as a black man, you figured out, we're gonna get you some kind of way. But I didn't think it was gonna be this kind of way. And the reason why I know that sounds very unmowed like, but this what goes on in the back of your head, like some something's gonna get me, I've been I've
been on a two year run. Ah, and that's kind of sad to say, but it is what it is. Now, but you clearly don't feel like you've been gotten or captured, because quite the opposite has happened, you've really, you've been able to free your mind and explore other things. Now. That's true. But what I mean by God is a stumbling block is
going to be put before you at some point. And the reason why I'm having this show is two things, because I'm sure there's people out here that's going through the same thing with less opportunity than me. And less, you know, less clear path in front of them than me. So I speak for them. But also just to go back and talk about this anger. Because the angry black man is a trope, right? It's a meme. So
you have not displayed any. Of course, I know you're, you've been on edge and disappointed and, and of course, angry but you have never even you know, when we talk all the time about stuff, not on the show. You really haven't displayed real anger that I noticed. And that's the thing is, even to the point where you can't display it, not with not me personally, but there's a social norm. Or maybe that's not the word, but it's like an expectation that a black person can't be angry.
Because it's not a good look. Right? Because it feeds to the for the last show. You see what happened when you do some kind of anger? Do you feel yourself literally holding back because of that very reason. You self censor yourself because of that? Well, it's a couple of reasons. And we won't get this. This whole show is about this topic. Okay, good. But you know, so it's a couple of things. It's not as self censoring from the fact that nobody wants to seem like a whiner. Nobody wants to
seem like a complainer. Uh, whatever you throw at me, I'll deal with it. That's just being a free minded person that comes with that. But also, an angry black person is seen as a, I would say as more of a threat than any any other person, especially angry black man. Even compared to counterparts, the women were not allowed to show that range of emotion. Because then you're crazy. You get labeled with these labels. It made. Maybe there's only one kind. I know that. Do you remember? I don't
remember which protest. This was. This may have been back after Occupy Wall Street. I can't remember. But there was this kid and he was protesting. And he was you know, young, young, black, young black boy. Maybe like 1314 and his mama came out. And she grabbed him by his ear and dragged him off home. And the whole summer was a Baltimore's the whole country was like hell yeah. Why don't we have more of that? That was fantastic. Right? That's, that's, that will be okay. But if it would have
been his father, ah, no big problem. It would have been enough. It would be something No, no, I understand. I'm just pointing that out is there is there is this one instance, the black mother is revered in America for this. And then we'll just speak since we're on Black History Month. This is the difference between King and Malcolm X. The king was acceptable. Because he really never got angry or showed his anger
and right and not Malcolm was the other way around. Yeah, he was saying not angry, but he could be perceived as angry by by the way he spoke. And it's like, oh, we're gonna go the king will go at Kings method. We can't go with Malcolm X method. So, like I said, I just want to explain this. I've just just me being transparent with people. And it's a secondary purpose to have this
conversation. And we'll get through it as we get into it. So I guess we can just go ahead and jump in the first clip, and this is Dr. Fields, explains the psychology of anger. I want to tell you that, I do think that anger is your default emotion. It's, it's what you go to, because it's the safest emotion to see if if, if you go to anger, then you're less likely to be hurt. Because you've already started a fight, right? So it's not like you went and said, Hey, listen, I really like
you. And I want you to want me and accept me. And then if you get rejected, that's painful. But if you go in and say, I don't want you to want me because I don't like you, and I'm gonna yell at you and scream at you that it doesn't hurt because you never find out where they would have let you stay. Anger is a big part of it. And I do have the freakout. And that happens a lot, like almost every day, but then I go through like, a ton of different emotions throughout the day, sad, you
know, all kinds of different stuff happens. That's because anger is just the outward manifestation of hurt fear or frustration. One of these days doesn't have to be the show. But I would love to know more about how Dr. Phil is viewed by black America. Because you've brought him up on the show several times in the in the in the whole history of just wondering where he stands. The reason why I bring out a feeling is because he's like the
mainstream media's doctor. So is he his takes a widely accepted. Okay, so so that's why I do that. It's just a All right, good, is a good center, center. Balanced to take on certain things. Okay. So he talks about fear, frustration, and uncertainty, I think was the third thing he said. That is the thing. And it's the constant calculation of I can't seem too angry. I can't I couldn't stand up and have a Jerry Maguire kind of rant. Because that will be taken differently. We remember the movie.
Well, yeah, I was gonna say yet yet. Cuba. Gooding Jr. pulled it off perfectly, and everybody loved it. Right. But that's mean, but just wait, how Jerry Maguire stood up in the office? Ah, I see what you're saying. Right. Right. That's probably gonna get you in cuffs carried out to carry out the building. But yeah, I mean, I have to talk about this, because, but that is also a that is a preconceived notion. I mean, you say that, and I'm agreeing with it, I guess. But I don't know
that that kind of depends on the office, you know? Yes. And I am totally on board with you. I'm not going to fight you. But there are some circumstances where that would be very appropriate. And skin color would make any difference. And this is the thing. This is not exclusive. As I always say, it starts with us. Now what you're seeing is the anger of
other people. Yeah, no, they're getting fed up. And one of the most, I don't wanna say passive, but greenblue set of people in this world are Canadians. Oh, man, I was talking to one this morning. Yes, yes, they are. They're very kind people, their, their typical mode of protesting is to grouse. They complain, right? That's all they do. Usually what? Oh, yeah. This you see what's happening there. Now. Yeah, this is, this is big. When you when you push people into a corner, it's like,
Okay, I'll take that. I'll take that. I'll take that now. When you when you start affecting the way that I feed my kids and my family, and not only the way you feed them, but it affects the status in your home. You know, I mean, because like if you're not a provider, yeah, I mean, like the two main modes is like protector and provider. So it kind of kneecaps you on the provider side of it. And then that starts to cause turmoil inside the home or creates an environment for turmoil and that
kind of thing to grow. Yeah. So and that and this is where no man house comes in. So we got to start looking at these things and say, what's going on tell you tell you that it starts with us. But now you're starting to see the impact of the state. And how was trying to leverage yourself as the de facto father? Yep. We'll take removing the providing portion of the Father, right. Which is like say and then that you're sitting around
the house all day. And then you're angry and you're stressed out And you're frustrated, and then that makes you even tougher to deal with. And then it destabilizes anymore. And it becomes this complete cycle. And then it's like, there's really nobody you can talk to, um, about your problems, because one of the things about I'm just gonna say about black people is the two sources where we do a lot of talking at the lunch
table. And the barber shop. Yeah, which these two things have been taken away from us. Because you can't go to work. One because we were work from home, a lot of us and then two can have one job, you don't have a job anymore period. Right? And then you can't go to the barbershop either. Right, because it's by appointment. It's one at a time due to the COVID rules. So they cut off your CNN.
What they cut off are your your communications line. What not even communication that sense, but like, that's where you get stuff out. Yeah, right. Right. Right. Right. Right. The gods kind of sit around the table. About stuff. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, here. Yeah. So you take those two modes away from people, and it's like, what do you have left? Witter, right, well, that pressure that causes a negative, that's a negative course, course very negative. So what I want to get into now is
the set of clips, and this is from the 1960s. And it's a black man. He's an older black man, it's gonna matter cuz I got a younger black man that we heard before. But I want to listen to the frustrations of older black man in his 60s when they try to be part of America. But it ends up coming out as anger. I don't agree with a moderator No, Reverend Robinson, that we want some kind of agreement. We want to be a method by which we can live. You. I have spoken to you a lot of times and hatred
and anger, and you have not heard me. Well, you had better hear me today is because you consider me Vagabond leader that I'm not to speak here. Well, you have cut those neckties off of them black boys that you put in our district, because they don't know what's happening. And I'm from the pits of nigga Hill. And I know what's happening. If you won't listen to me, when I make an appeal for the negroes, because you have no concern for the negros. Listen to me when I'm making an appeal of America.
You claim you love America. But you are driving us back in your Megillah Samson out of us, and we are going to burn down the bill. Wow, do you know where that was or who that was? I don't know who it was. But he was speaking to council meeting. And he was a community leader. I was saying that. That's why I say you should consider me a vagabond leader. Because he wasn't a part of the structure, right? You're saying and he was just venting? Like, no, we we love America just like everybody
else does. But at that time, it was based off a race. But now at this time, we're hearing the similar sentiments at these town hall meetings and things of that nature. So what I'm just saying is just showing examples of it started with us. And now we're seeing it happen as predicted, as predicted all over the world and people are being pressurized. And anger can be a very destructive force, if left unattended either personally or
to society itself. And as we were saying that the reason I want to go back a little bit to the last show and what we talked about lynching and depressurization, and, and fear mongering, that kind of thing. And it left the door open for the Russians to say, hey, America has problems. Yeah, let's, let's explore it that let's give it gas. Let's feed it. That's what he's saying here. And it's not that, you
know, people are trying to work with outside groups. And you know, that was the first choice is like you left me no choice. Right? Is that making sense? Of course, of course. Of course it does. And so now that's why you hear people like I'm considering like, well, that doesn't seem like that bad of an option. If this is if this is the way the system is gonna go. Maybe we need to consider something else. And that's a very dangerous thought to allow to linger for a country or nation.
Absolutely. Just happening everywhere except for the UK where they just said screw it. Yeah, oh, everything's good. So I don't like I said, I'm Portlandia out is the anger, anger is a real emotion is, um, it is. It manifests itself in different ways. You have the simmering anger. And I would say that's where my has been at. That's very, very unhealthy. To keep things in is very, very unhealthy. You know that of course, I do know that. But then at the same time, you had to keep up
with a call keep up errs. Right? You have to seem like everything is okay. You can't let the kids know, which is what dads do. Right. And that's what kills you. Yes, yes, of course. Of course. That's universal. And that's certainly for men. Yes. And that's why men are saying, in general die younger than women. And that's why black men are the lowest on the life expectancy, right? Because one either, you haven't obtained success in America. And that makes you stew. Or you have
attained success in America in isolation. Right? Because it says is a very isolating thing. I mean, you probably know I mean, because you're always wondering, like, Why can't let on it, you know, something's going on. Because yeah, until I started being honest, and doing podcasts, and then it became really easy. I am who I am no phony, no fake. No hidden no trap doors, you know, that's, that's what we're has probably saved me.
And I'm glad you made that point. Because this right here, this coming and speaking on it, three or four hours, and then you know what I do independently, that is the best outlet possible to kind of take the lid off the pot a little bit. And let's I'm going to steam out. And now Now, especially since we know the final conclusion of your work situation. Now, you know, you're really free to speak.
Right? But the fact that I was left lingering, and I keep using this word for so long, that adds to the anger that asked to the like, seriously, like, I mean, you wake up, I mean, cuz like, Okay, I'm just gonna give people how I went through the process. You get the letter you like, wow, you're saying, okay, that happened. And then it's okay. Okay. All right. Well, this frees me, which it does. And it's like, oh, I didn't do
anything wrong. No, that's, that's the part like, I'm not gonna see if I was slacking off at work or, you know, made a mistake or that kind of thing. You could justify or rationalize it, when you've done nothing except, say, you don't want to take part in mass mind control. No offense to anybody, you're saying that took it, but it's like, I don't want to do it. And this is where the rights thing comes in. It's the same thing. It's the same feeling is like, if, if I don't comply, right,
you can end me at any time. And like I said, this is where that mechanism bleeds over to everybody. Well, what know what happened with it was under the surface, you know, it was just under surface, it's there. And then it's like, wow, like, you really did something to me that I had no, you know, no recourse. no control over it, right. It's very, that's hard for men. That's the frustrating part is like, I mean, I'm not worried about the future, because the future is gonna be what its
gonna be. But it's like you can come in and flipped my life upside down on a whim. And I don't think the rest of America in the West rest of the world understood what that was like, well, people who neglect the people who understand it, or the truckers? Yes, that's what I'm saying. That people are going Oh, okay. I see. Yeah, they're not happy. No, they got big trucks. We need them. And that's the thing. I mean, so that's why I'm saying every,
it's a great opportunity for empathy. Because now people can see the it's not that the action is the threat is the underlying well, when is when is the other shoe gonna drop? Right? Which, when when? actly right. And I'm not speaking for all black people, but I can speak for myself as my black experience. You're always waiting for the other shoe to drop, even though you don't say it, even though it's not communicated is when things are going really good. Like they were I mean, I'll just
look back. I mean, a year ago, I was moving into my new home. I had a podcast going I was gainfully employed, you know, everything was on the up and up. And then it's like, you know, what? We, we as a society, are we as they we want to switch things up. Yeah, we just want to shake things up. And it's like, you realize the repercussions If we don't care, you know, if you don't want to comply to whatever we say is right. So be it. It's your fault. It's like it was put back on you, it's your fault
that you didn't comply. So what I'm saying is this doesn't have to really do anything with race, but what it did was tap into that ratio. subconsciousness there. Gotcha. So let's go ahead and get into this guy. Yeah, no, I totally I totally understand. That's triggering, as all hell. Right? And then, but then, it's a lot going on, because it's like, well, I can't say anything about it, because I don't want to seem like a complainer. And honestly, I really don't have
anything to complain about compared to others. But then you go back to them in the loop again, it's like, but I didn't do anything. Yeah, it's unfair. I know, it's unjust. The minute the minute you say that just this unfair. It's like, oh, man, okay. Well, there it is. It's done. But then that but the natural thing is for people to say suck it up.
Suck It Up Your man suck it up. You know, that's the that's the I there was a an interesting video in Ottawa and one resident and the residents of Ottawa, of course, flipping out because it's just noise and horn honking for days. And one guy is just flipping out, and he's yelling at the truck driver, and the truck drivers like, Hey, man, but we just want all the mandates gone. And the guy says, and this kind of shows you and
and I understand, I can totally humanize him. He says, but that's just for people to go to their job, that's not a full on mandate you they're not jabbing it in your arm, I thought, wow, this guy just doesn't get it. And and, you know, there's, there's a level of misunderstanding when you're not affected by something. And that's the dangerous to say, well, it was your choice. Exactly. It's like, what choice did you give me? No, I don't trust this. You know, whatever you're trying to give me
whatever it is just fill in the blanks. I don't trust that, that path forward. And I don't want to participate in it. So it's like, okay, well, let me just say snatch your, your means of being a provider away from you and see if that gets you in line. See, this is the this is the book breaking mentality of this vac situation. It's like, why don't you just sit on it for a while? Can you come back and see if you got your senses together? That's it pretty much. Did Yeah. Right. And they're
just gonna try to break you. And it's like, well, I'm not gonna break cuz I'm standing on my principles. But it also opened, like I said, it puts you in an awkward situation, because you've destabilize a lot of man's position in their home, the amount of emails I've received, particularly from New Zealand, and Australia, from men, who, you know, they just email me and they say, dude, like, I got to feed my family now. It's like, I'm gonna have to take this damn thing. It's
heartbreaking. But if that's what they always say, I got to feed my family. And now we see about when we talk about, and I said, this is for all men, this show is, but it specifically I have to talk about the racial aspect of it, because there is that underlying
dormant ratio programming. That's just that a lot of us have that this situation triggered, or you know, saying, or it can trigger windows and then throw in, for some reason, all of a sudden, at historically, black colleges and universities are getting bomb threats. Just to sprinkle some shit on top, you know, like, one does that thing. And then on top of that you factor in? Oh, well, we need a
woman, Supreme Court justice. Black one, right. So all these things is like, it's all feeds into it of this boogeyman because it might not be real. I mean, like I said, it might be just in our heads, but you can't fear. Fear, you're something that fear can make you sick. Right and in and if even if it's not real, doesn't mean it's not impactful. I was talking to a guy from Nigeria yesterday. It was funny, because you know, the power went out right in the middle of who
they were. He was part of a podcast interviewing me. And he had his stuff on batteries. And so that's just life in Nigeria. And I said, So how to go in Nigeria with COVID. He said, Ma'am, it's like, totally like nothing. No one knows anyone who died and he says, we already know the government's corrupt. He says it's not even from the anti malarial drugs. We just weren't afraid of shit. You got it. You know, you had it for a few days, and then you're better and he says, I know 500 1000
people. I don't know anybody who died from it. And I said, that's crazy, because I know at least five princesses from Nigeria. I can't believe that you don't You don't know anybody who died from COVID. And that's the other thing is like that feeds into the no SIBO effect. And that's why I'm talking about fear. Yeah, fear can definitely have some definite, it can manifest things once you start to harp on it, because I'm a firm believer that
everything begins in the mind. Right? So when you start to think, and it's those, we start to think, and you you're thinking, thoughts that are not controlled, but it's just like your mind is running away with itself. That's when you get in some serious danger. Yep. So let's just go ahead and get to the second part of this here some more angry black man. Yes, this is this is wonderful.
Again, I'm crazy. Because America to be saved. Rights that goes on in this country in the city is better than Pittsburgh. And then you think we have no right? To ask for something? Is it too much? To ask you to grant us human dignity? Should we be put down and shot to death? For this request? Info, you can aim your guns? What the hell do you think we care about dying? If you're going to deny the right to live? Yeah, man, you don't see you don't see stuff like that often anymore?
And that's that last line? What do we care about dying? If you don't want to give us the right to lead? Right? I want everybody to keep that in mind. When you. When I put mice, my anger is just coming from the audacity and the power. That someone can make a decision that impacts someone just because of what they won't do not because of what they will do, if I took action, or what they did do, or do or what they did do. If I had taken action, I was sad. They deserved it, you know, saying I
would have got over it. But the fact was like, wow, like so near me, you start to wonder, what's next? Are they going to come for your kids? Are they going to come for your freedom to move around? Or, you know, all these other things start to come? Because like, wow, if you took it this far, how far are you willing to take it? I mean, that creates a very unhealthy place in your headspace headspace to be in. And now I'm being just completely honest, and transparent with everyone.
Because hopefully, somebody in this same space will not feel alone and isolated. I think we all feel that way. I mean, I I'm in a different place than you a my life in general. But I've just turned it into my vocation. It's like it to deal with it. And this is this is the honest truth. I prefer to engross myself in the details, try and find figure out what the next move is, what's being done, why it's being done. And that that's how I process any anger
that might crop up. I really don't have any, even though like you everyone has a reason to be angry. And what's next and what the hell if they did this? What can happen next, I'm also in Texas that does make I'm not in Austin, let's put it that way. In Austin, I was unhappy. I was very unhappy during during the the heavier restrictions which are still in place, you know, they're trying to keep them in place in Austin. So that's
understood. And everyone finds a way to deal with it. I'm unfortunate. And wouldn't the real issue is it's not about the money. It's not about any because money can be made. I mean, this is this is a world where money just moves around. If you're saying you have a plan, you can get money. So it's not about that. It's about the power that you know, a group of people have over your personal freedoms. That's where the rubber meets the road. And then the deepest, the destabilizing effect it has, and
just the callous way it was done. Um, no. How do you just throw people away and say, Well, when you get your mind, right, we'll have a spot for you. You know, when you learn to know your place, and you come to a spot from when you come here, right? That's exactly right. And this is where we've been saying this for a long time about men and dresses, specifically black men and dresses in Hollywood. He's like, this is this is what you put on the dress moment. This is David Shapiro. Right,
right. He's the dress. Come on, Dave, you know, saying it's funny. Yeah, you know, that kind of thing. Like, come on. It's just a needle. Just a little prick. It's a little. It's crazy. It's crazy. Right? So when you do that, you're gonna trigger Some of the ratio programming because I'm not immune to it, I mean, I deal with it probably better than most. But I'm not immune to any kind of was just another one of those things they didn't really take into consideration.
Right so that now you're starting to see why. Especially from from the party that's in charge that loves black people Mo. Well, now we're seeing at least out of them. They love you, as long as you're doing what they asked you to do. When you don't, that's when we get to see the real true colors come out. Yeah, it's like, well, don't let them move around. Don't let me Don't let him go to grocery stores. Don't let them you know, maybe Canada and Canada, literally, you're in the grocery
store. If you're unpacked, you can only go into the produce aisle and get food you can't get by, you know, a shovel, or a hat or underwear. You they they chaperone, you make sure you don't go there. Now tell me if that's that that's a ritual of humiliation? Sure is. It's not a function because you mean, the Cuf can't be on it out. I mean, what are you saying this is? It's Yeah, exactly. And when you start to humiliate somebody, it's like, oh, okay,
this is personal. But this is this. I mean, you could take I mean, they might not mean it this person. But it's gonna be taking this person who's like, why would you do that? They say you can't go by, you know, certain goods. If you're not, you're saying vaccines punitive is obvious, right? And it's petty. And those are the things like I said, those are the things that make people start to lose their mind, right? Yep. Right. And now I have to do this. Because with that anger,
if you don't do something with it, it will destroy you. So now I want to get into getting some therapy, and this is clip to a Hi, I'm purpose Taylor, and you're tuned into black man, did you some therapy. Today's topic is anger. Anger at his core is a secondary emotion, the primary emotion is hurt. Underneath the hurt is disappointment. And underneath the disappointment is
an expectation that hasn't been met. Unfortunately, when we look at anger, anger feels like a much more powerful emotion that we can display and is okay for us to display and acknowledge the key word to acknowledge in anger is just that, acknowledging it, in order for one to acknowledge something they must be honest with themselves. A lot of times we try to present anger as if it's something that doesn't exist, or
we'd like to bury it. The road of anger can manifest itself depends and varies, right sometimes for us as men, anger shows up in two ways in an internal way, and also an external way. The way in which we internalize anger may show up in some of our own self destructive behaviors. Sometimes we hurt ourselves physically, through self harm, self
injurious behaviors, substance use and substance abuse. And some of the ways in which we externalize anger can be in the ways in which we treat the ones we love, or just strangers. Sometimes it can show up in the form of our own patients, how we talk to folks, our tonality, sometimes even just our facial expressions, always tell people that being angry is not what usually gets us in trouble. It's how we manage our anger.
Well, this is interesting. I'm a big fan of therapy. I started I did some therapy after my second marriage like okay, let me just check a few things here. I think men in general are getting more used to the idea of this guy have a podcast as a YouTube or where's he doing this? This is actual podcast called brother get your black man get you some therapy and he needs to get him some sound advice, which I'd be happy to help him with. Because I like it.
It was terrible quality. But yeah, it was important message. But it's lost due to the quality. Not lost. But you know, you get my point there, but I'm for this. Is there a stigma on this in with black men? Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Not stigma in this. The stigma is going to lay on somebody's couch. Yeah, and that don't poke around in your brain. That's that's that's not exactly how it works. No. Perception
Yes. I got your perception of the stick that's this thing Yeah, I got now like I said before going to talk to your friends at the lunch table. Or the barber shop you know barber shop or your barber you get some older guy who's there and can say some wise shit. Exactly. In church. That was the other thing. Cut off make sure you cut that off. They cut the church off they cut the barber shop off and then they cut the job off. And the next day just cut your dick off.
Is it isn't it? Well, that I mean, we know stress and notes kind of thing and had to fix on that. Literally, something you want to talk about mode when I'm saying is that's that's the last thing you have left and then stress can even impact that. So made up. Yeah. So my point is this is this by design, I may have to ask this question, you know? Are they trying to pressurize people for a reason to get a reaction because the way I'm looking at this timeline
is February now. Okay, so people will probably have 234 months to savings right? You burn through your savings Now here we're at summer we're at summer it gets hot people get a little crazier people can go outside I mean people are not really going outside now because it's 20 degrees you know saying but when it starts to get hot and your money gets low are we going to
start seeing some things pop off in cities? Where there's just somebody pissed at somebody you're saying just pissed in general and they pop off or things like we think that's our that's already happened mo This is already happening. This is already happening this is I see the reports like Portland Oregon one night and like nine shootings with with with deadly consequences what you know, we don't need it's interesting. So okay, so first of all my my view
yes, this is intentional. It's all intentional. This is the great reset I take these idiots at their word, but when they say they're going to do a some kind of reset that you got to break shit to reset it that's that's just I think that's what what we what is happening. And it's part of the financial markets. There's a lot of the wire type stuff going on with every real estate is the solution to everything. You know, so you see neighborhoods destroyed neighborhoods burned now all of
a sudden, developers go in it's happening everywhere. I see it. I'm not stupid. The Wire open my eyes. Really? The demolition is damn okay. It's the Controlled Demolition through people. Yes, it's free. It's free. It's like it's free demolition. It's like, let's just make a man there, burn it up. And then we'll come back and build it. Build it Back up. So and well, I saw literally saw the United Nations Secretary General gortat us. He had a tweet. And the tweet said, you
know, here's the priorities for the world. Basically, I won. Defeat COVID-19 To change the financial system. What that's what we're dealing with. So something very big is going on. And yeah, I don't know if that was what was the first part of your question? Or what you were really asking if this is on purpose? Yeah, so I think you're right it's that's what's happening to everybody might see 19 Again, I mean, we talked about the racial right?
Yes. Yes. I love that the racial riots of night I brought it up on no agenda Dvorak just he went holy crap. Dense. Jago is primed for that. And when it starts to get hot people's money start to get low add some Chem trails, right and it not only that, then you add some Okay, now we can really go out and protest because it's warm, it's hot. You're gonna start I think you're gonna start seeing more loitering. But manda him saying you want to see more pushback against the
mandates, the one in DC was large for years. And for something of that, you know, just what it was. When it gets hotter, you're gonna start seeing more people come outside. Um, and this man did OSHA mandate is not demanding issue. That's not the case. But the government did that, like I said, incur in collusion, to coerce people. And it gave a tip to the hat to the corporation that go ahead, we won't get in
your way. And that's where the RIP for me that's where the real anger comes in it because I thought the government works for me. Theory and theory. Yeah, of course. I mean, that's the that's the, that's that underlying thing I'm talking about. It's like, yeah, we say that when there's like, not a government on workforce, but now it's being proven. So it's like, oh, wow, I was right, all along, right. So I guess we can go ahead and get into part two of this clip.
A lot of times when people usually get to that point, they usually explode. And it causes them to act, or do things that they later regret. The point in peaceful black men is that we have a lot of Justified Anger given the issues that are going on, but we don't want to hold on to it. And we don't want to allow it to manifest in a way that's detrimental to ourselves and the ones we love. We must understand that anger can be destructive or constructive. When it's destructive. We harm
ourselves and we harm others. When it's constructive, which is known as righteous indignation. It can lead to change and transformation. It's not about eliminating anger. It's about eliminating the destructive nature of anger. We're emotional beings, anger, earmarks our human experience. And in some cases, it can be used for good. For example, Rosa Parks in her anger didn't give up her seat. And that led to change and transformation and reformation for us as black people.
Yeah, I like this guy. And and I will say just thinking about how you answer my question that yeah, there's there's a stigma someone rooting around in your mind. You can also say that is ignorance, you know, learn about what therapy is and how it can help you and a podcast like this is obviously encouraging. Right, but I'll say there's two things I want us one I want to point out the Rosa Park thing. It Rosa was Ron parks. Yeah.
Yeah. You see, I'm saying like that is even then. It was we of course, we know Rosa Parks was, you know, was it was some staged something. Yeah, we know she was she it came two weeks after for the PR after a huge hurt with Hugo black and saying was backing her. But whatever you're saying, if that would have been Ron Parkes instead of Rosen, yeah, that would have had different different story outcome. Right. So now we have to have this constant calculation in your
head is like, what's the acceptable level of anger? So what happens is, okay, you press it down, press it down, press it down, press it down, and then we explode them. Everybody's like, Oh, where'd that come from? He's crazy. And it's like, no, I just been eating shit for a long time. And taking it. And, and, man in general, if this today's society is expect to suck it up, take it, suck it up, you know, if you saw exhibit any kind of behavior that was like, aggressive, that's toxic
masculinity, you know, that kind of thing. So, yeah, we have this powder keg of being pushed down. And even toxic masculinity. That's always been the case for black men. Because like I said, all all black male anger is toxic, because what you're saying is perceived. Right? And then our counterparts, the women is kind of celebrated that they can be angry. Yeah, you go. Right. Right. Exactly. When you have somebody go, I mean,
corporations actually look for that trait. Because they can weaponize it, you know, for their business to go in there be a Firestarter, you know? Oh, but no, that's the quintessential you know, our Oh, no, you didn't you know, that's, that's cultural. Now, that's cultural across all racial lines has just which is alright, respect for that woman.
Correct. And you see, like, I mean, because all all the time whenever there's a DMV scene, or a black woman playing that role, to say what you're saying, yeah, it's even baked into the archetype. Okay, for them to have that kind of outbursts book for me. And it's like, even when you raise your voice, and I've mentioned this before on the show, even when I will be at work when I'm still physically there in office. And I'll be mid thought, and like you get a scowl on your face when you're
menthol. People come by See, you're right. You're really okay. Really. So you have to be conscious, even a passive deep bass programming man is heavy on all sides on all sides. It's not it's not just American. I'm talking about people that are all over the world. Sure. That will come to you. Okay. You're everything all right. Oh, man. Whoa, most got that. koonta Kintyre look, again, everybody. Okay, back up. Right.
Right. So, but that's, that's a real fear. And I don't want to belabor the point, but now, it just sucks to hear this is horrible. And just to speak on therapy. My not my mom. She's saying she's a she's a licensed therapist, you know, saying like, so. therapy has been, you know, talking about paid into the family. Yeah. Right. But when I met her have this debate, going back and
forth is, I think the way we do therapy in this country. For poor middle class people is broken, though I'm sure it is, is without a doubt, I'm sure it is without even knowing enough about it. So because we have somebody come in and say, Alright, we got 15 minutes. Let me tap into your brain and give you some drugs and we'll fix it. We're not even drugs but surface that issue and then they look at their watch my up, your time is up, you know,
let's just leave it right and put a pin in it right there. And we'll see you next week. Now Hello. You can't bury that stuff back. Now. I'm going out to my life for another six days. Before I come back here to therapy again. And you've an open are you on earth this whatever the issue is, and now I have to take this back into my real world. I think that's a very broken system. Um, and that's, that's not just for poor people, that is the rich
people version also. But the rich people version usually includes group therapy, which are very interesting activities, I've participated in a few. And that's where you really get to expand a lot more and go a lot deeper in, believe it or not a safe space. But the typical therapy sessions, that's kind of how it goes for everybody. Except for the first you can't pay for more, I guess that you can get group sessions, you know? Yeah,
you're absolutely right. I'm just saying that the basic therapy session is your 15 minutes looking at the watch, sorry, you got to go. That's kind of the same. But then, of course, if you have money, then you can expand as much as you want. Right. But if you're on the insurance plan, you know, you're screwed, you're screwed, you're screwed. And he's like, You come home, and like everybody listening, and I'm, I gotta be transparent again. I've never went to therapy before. Ah, don't expect
it out. We'll go to therapy. That's just me. And I can say, that might be a stigma, it might be a stereotype or whatever. But I just don't want somebody poking around in my head. Because that's an that may, I guess, that my mom is a third. So that is a very probably ignorant take on it. But it's very, I'll say a couple of masculinity. You always want to seem like you're in control of things. Even if you're not. There's just like the trope and meme of are we lost? And your
dad's like driving? Now, we're not lost? What's your losses? Hail, right. But it's like, I can't let the wife and kids know I'm lost. You know, because I'm the Navigator. I'm the guy behind the wheel, you know? Well, so a lot of these things were discussing. To me also shows and of course, this is also being destroyed is how the male female model when it when it's in harmony together work so incredibly well. Because yes, Rosa Parks, if it was Ron parks
would have been a different story. But if it was Ron parks, and he was 80 years old, it might have been yet a different story. You know, so there's, there's all these different types of things that are that our individual and our sexuality, just have on a social scale, when you work together, is really good. So that's just that's just my take on it. And quite honestly, I suck at directions. And I've just given that to my wife. Like, I'm just gonna turn the navigator voice
off because I like yours much more. And you tap on the window a little bit to let me know which way to go, which is always fun. And it's funny you say that because that was kind of like the mom was in the passenger seat with the map. Yeah, she's like, I don't think we're gonna, you know, so, but I'm just saying like the stopping asking for directions. Oh, fuck, no, not gonna do that. I'm a man Damn it. Exactly, I'll figure it out.
I'll pull over, pull over, bring out the sextant before I ask for directions. Or I'll run out of gas. And at least that gives me an excuse to go to the gas station. Right, so, but it's a speech about this, they say it's very destabilizing the effects on masculinity and that need to hold on to the masculine, it just makes the situation worse. I would say um, so I guess we stopped me to be that's going into to see. Interesting enough. I'm not a big fan of the notion of getting
rid of anger. When we talk about eliminating anger. Anger is something that can't be eliminated. But it's anger is something that can be managed and controlled. We actually have to develop a vocabulary around other emotions. Besides just anger and sadness. We need to be able to identify when we feel helpless. When we feel frustrated when we feel disgusted. When we feel shame, the way we manage anger is to acknowledge that we're angry. But beyond that, we need to know
what our triggers are. Knowing what our triggers are, helps us to respond accordingly. This is why I tell black men that it's so important to be introspective. It's important that we be able to sit with ourselves and examine ourselves and ask ourselves out of curiosity, why we show up in certain ways. After that, it's important that we learn to take a pause or pause is good because it allows us to collect our thoughts and think of possible ways to remedy the disagreement.
Black men. It's okay. Not to be okay. And that's the that's the point where this show comes in in doing this show the process of it. It provides time for introspection. It occupies the mind because I wouldn't know what I would be doing if I Have something to do in this situation went down. Uh, you will have a lot more time to just like for it to fester. You know, it's just like, ah, you know, saying you, you just like harp on it. So that's what the
good part of this show and then the good is good too. It's like they say there's good anger, or there's good way to channel anger. But I think a lot of times people don't know how to do that. That's that's very untaught skill. Sure, either either we pack it now, or we, or we outbursts. And now those are the two mechanisms for dealing with anger. Now I will say this two points I made was frustration and shame. Once
again, I had to be very transparent. A lot of my anger comes from frustration, of being less than, well, that images at this point in life being 41 years old, you kind of had your map set, right? The kind of thing in front of you is like, Okay, I'm gonna do this for the next 1020 years, I'm going to do this, the kids are gonna be here, once they get grown, and we'll do you know, you're setting up for that. The middle
game like these, this is the middle game, right? And to come in, and just the mind isn't Yes, shitty time in life to be confronted with it. Right? Because you got to maintain what you got. Because that's where the shame comes in it because I can't lose my house. And this is this is the goal to speak to the guys that wrote you letters. By it's the shame part of it's like, either one, they probably get their identity from their work. Because like people who are like, Well, I'm an engineer, I'm
a doctor, I'm a you know, that's they speak their vocation. Some people, their vocation is their identity. So if you separate them from that, it's like, who am I? You know, that's the question you have to ask yourself, like, who am I, then the shame of just being out of work? For me, it's family members I haven't even told yet. Because, once again, you want to go back to having everything under control. So the shame part of it. And we talked about sign language, right? It's a shame
and so guilt need to be right. Shame is a part big part of it. And it's like, if I can avoid this shaming feeling, but then you feel shame because you lied about it. So it's either like, Damn, I can't get away from this. So yeah, shame and frustration for me the two biggest things so just just for me to you, I mean, you got nothing but shit to be proud of man. Your chance here? That's the thing like is being an entrepreneur in itself, and
working for yourself. There's a light there's a certain stigma that comes along with that. Oh, really? Yeah. Okay, because it's, it's like you eat what you kill kind of thing. Yeah. And, and people that are working. And I can speak for that. I mean, I've been working class for years, all my life. It's like, well, there's a certain uncertainty that comes along with that. Destiny especially Yes, especially if, but that's seen as a negative. Because people have this for people
who aren't entrepreneurs. That is the one reason why they aren't entrepreneurs. That's exactly right. Because they don't like that feeling. But when you switch lanes made life, if you came into the game entrepreneur, that's one thing. It's like, okay, that's that's him. But if anybody if somebody came to you and say, Well, you know, I quit my job to start a restaurant, the first thing and
back of a worker person in my life. That's pretty crazy. If it was, even though it's not crazy, the person thought out, they were saying that they're planning that kind of thing was like, you got a good job here. You sure you want to do that when you fail? These are the questions you start to get. Well that I did go through that. Specifically, when I dropped out of college, my parents gave me one month, said you're in this house for one month, and either you are back in school, or
you're paying rent or you're out. And that motivated me and then I I got a job in television. Crazy, but that's how things go sometimes. And even though that was like the most mind blowing thing that could happen to anybody. Most people around me were like, wow, be careful. You know, you know, show business. You know, it's not you know, have something to fall back on.
Right that's, that's that's the key right there. So in the fall back, if you're something to fall back on you Whether you walked away from it or it's been taken from you, it's like, okay, yeah, you're gonna walk on a highway. Uh huh. And now the risk versus reward is greater. I mean, well, the reward is
greater, and the risk is higher as well. But it's a certain mentality that was been beaten into Americans specifically yes, that you go to job you go to school, you get you're saying you get, you know, some kind of training vocational, either educational, and then you go get a job. And you you, you say, you live in that, and you live in that space until you retire. And this is the social contract. That's been, you know, written all of my life. I can't speak to before that, but that was the
understanding. And now for somebody say, I've done all the right things, I checked all the boxes, I worked hard. I'm grinding my way, you know, your sense of where I met. And then for somebody else to come in, this is how that goes. Ah, yeah, that. That's, that's where the frustration comes in it. So I understand. So now we got to go back to show 13 deconstructing Kanye, because we've seen Kanye deal with this publicly, you
know, being called crazy. And because the arrow of his outburst and yes, yes, yes, yes, hot takes and those kinds of things, you know, they just kind of get back in line. Don't don't gotta get like Kanye, you get your rapper, your producer. Why do you want to be an artist? Why do you want to be a fashion person I was thinking this day. That's crazy. So now we got to go back. And this is Kanye. From show 13. Number five. Kobe Bryant won five championships. He's sprained all
kinds of muscles all through his body tore ligaments. And for people to go to Kanye West where I'm playing in the highest level of mental sport. I have Mark Zuckerberg wanting to meet with me. Yes, I have people kind of want to meet with me, that are makers that are worried at this point. So I'm playing at this mental sport as a black band. Post POC, post Biggie, Puff Daddy Jay Z. In Debt, completely control. The management knows how much exactly, you make it on your tour. And it's just $2 less
than what your house costs. And I'm ending up in debt every year. And then I have a breakdown. I should have a hospital in the back of our room for what I'm dealing with. Don't Don't NBA players got a nice iced every time I need to just like Lee everyday just go right to UCLA to the level of game of sport down working at but we don't make Cobis legacy be about one torn ligament and my legacy ain't about oh, he got me 12
That just come with the level of sport I'm playing. What you talking about people's trying to send me left and right. Yeah, that was good. Episode Two. So what that thing about, you know, people trying to sign you in crack. So this is the other side of it. Like cuz like say I'm a free man. And I don't regret anything. And so I want to make this clear. Now, I have zero regrets. But when you make a decision, there's pros and cons to it. And we you start to
map these things out. And then you start getting feedback from people. It's the selling part like you did what I say certain family members I haven't told, but other family members that you told the first thing I've got bad like, You got kids. Yeah. Yeah, they can help produce Damn it. Now. Think about that. Just think about that for a minute. I'm saying I don't want to do something for me and my personal health. And it's like, what you got kids. It's like, but I don't
want to do this from my personal hill. But you got kids. So it's like, I'm supposed to sacrifice myself. And this goes back once again, to about the sacrifice is sacrifice yourself. If it doesn't work out or your day, you got heart issues, you're saying all these other things that come along possibly with it? And of course, it's not everybody, but this okay. I asked this question we would ask about what's your number? Here's another what's your number? Okay, say we had a gun. And we
were going to put a bullet in one chamber and spin it. How many empty chambers would you need to say okay, that's the risk I'm willing to take. Yeah. 1010 chambers 100 chambers. 1000 chambers by when would you when were you playing that game? Cuz I'm not playing that game. He's not saying that's bad. Basically what they're asking me to do is like, live nine 999 chances that you won't get shot. You know, Whoa, it's like, I don't know, that's people who don't share the same opinion about
what this what the shot is. And they don't see it as you know, you have options, you know, and they see that as the easy option. So it's ignorance. Right, what I'm saying, like, what would be this acceptable amount of empty chambers, that you're willing to take that risk with one live round in one of those chambers? You don't have to ask me now. I'm not saying, I'm just saying that's that's the mindset of, oh, just spin the spin it? You know, I get a version of it like, well, you can't even see
your daughter. So that's right. And she can't see me. That's right. Right. It's the same as on you, dad. Here's how you're not gonna take that risk. Dan, you know, you're sure people somebody, your must be a bad dad, you were saying let this let this small things stand between you and your daughter. Okay. Well, for my daughter's the same opinion. So she she has the same? Yeah, I'm just saying this is the kind of mental game that they play in something you and then they wonder why or how it
can impact your mental health? Because I just want I just wanted to point that out. Because as we seen what Kanye if you don't do what's expected of me? You're crazy. Yep. But and on the other hand, if you're from other communities, and you don't do what's expected, you're innovating. You're still innovative. He's risk taking, you know, he's a Cavalier, he's a maverick, you know, they have all these terms. Yeah. Other people, you know, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, you know, like, it's
like Elon Musk. You're saying like, if he was a black man, like, what? Electric cars? Don't know, maybe, maybe no one's saying like, this is the genesis of the idea. If you if you would have said that, like before, he actually built Tesla cars around batteries. But he didn't build Tesla. Elon Musk is not a good example. He's a figurehead to me, he you know, he was put in charge of Tesla, you know, it was already existed already.
Okay, well, I'm just saying like the narrative, you're gonna say, like, if whatever, you're going to take a risk, then you're crazy to take a risk because Elon is, by the way he is. Yeah, he's the He's the richest African American history. We've always put respect on his name. So let's go to now we're going to go to show 41. And I forget what title this what I had to title someone, but show 41 nonetheless, and this is to pot and he's going to talk about being locked in on the outside.
And, you know, and notice, that's not it. This is gonna talk about, you know, getting rich and agreed in America. This world is such an I say this world, I mean, it I don't mean an ideal sense. I mean, in every day, every little thing you do is such a, give me give me give me. Everybody back off. You know, everybody's like you taught that from school, everywhere, big business, you
want to be successful. You want to be like Trump, give me give me give me push, push, push, push, step, step, step, crush, crush crush. That's how it all is. And it's like, nobody ever stopped. You know, I feel like, instead of us just being like, slavery is bad slavery is that bad. YT bad YT. I mean, why? Let's stop that. And everybody's smart enough to know that. I mean, we've been slighted. And we hours. And I don't mean by like I was 40 acres in Mute, because we passed that. But we
need help. I mean, for us to be on our own two feet, us meaning us or us, meaning black people, whatever, you want to take your phone for us to be on our own two feet, we do need help. Because we have been here we have been a good friend, if you want to make it a relationship type thing. We have been there and now we deserve our pay back. It's like you got a friend that you don't never look out for. You know, you dressed up in
Jews. Now America's got Jews, and they got the pain and everything and they lending money to everybody except us. Yeah, this this was back when tea still talk like that. And when you you could still get an interview with him like that. Right? So that was that was 92 Yeah, but I just want to show for 6892 You hear the same? The same, you're saying the same message. It's the same thing. It's like hey, you know, you want us to be good, you know, saying good citizens take part
in this American dream. But you know, you want to dictate certain things to us. And not you're saying not allow for upward mobility. Now, of course, this is not raised bass with this shot. But it's still, you know, we're gonna they're kind of picking the winners and the losers. How can you do that? You know, and it becomes so pressurized that you know, people I don't think people really understand where we're
at. There's so many homeless young men out here. It's specifically black mean, cuz I talked to him you don't say like, um, when they stop, excuse my language like I use on cars like this, but when they stopped giving a fuck, America has a
real problem. I don't I don't think they understand what's really going on, you know, they know when a homeless people stop caring when that when you know when the homeless, the hungry, the outer work this is what you're seeing the great resignation a lot of people just throwing their hands up like, what Let's go, whatever it will be will be you know is what it is how to sauce on top of that we're all gonna die in 10 years from climate change just as a narrative that just floats around.
And then the racialization of everything and, you know, without any explanation, you factor that in the you factor in that, you know, men men can't find women or they can't if they find a woman that can't take care of a woman no family nothing to live for no kids, not America, I'm telling you, you're sitting on a powder keg. Now I don't know how it's gonna be trouble is gonna manifest itself. But it's I see all the parts because I can truly empathize. Am I in a better
position than most? Yes. Am I immediately my life's gonna change? No. But the fact is, when you come upset somebody is lifelike this how this normally looks is you're being evicted. How this normally looks is, you know, you had to pull your kids out of certain things, or you know, things that you were aspiring to buying a home and those kinds of things. Now my downpayment I got to live off of until I find another person when you start dashing people dreams like that. It's a it's a it's a
very, it's a powder keg. I'm not saying that. But I want people to understand by is there is a reason why there was a social contract. There was their net worth just out of the goodness of the heart. It was if these people get pissed off enough, it could be real trouble. Yeah, and this kind of brings in your Demolition Man theory. Yeah. Because what they pushed them to the last point they could go underground. Once you put me on the ground eating rat
burgers. It's like, What? What? What we're saying what do you want? For me? You're saying like, where? Where's the loose for me? Where I'm at the bottom? You know, so yeah, that's why I keep harping on the Demolition Man thing once you push people on the ground, and that, you know, they get comfortable there. And it's like, well, the odd thing between between me and success is those people, whoever they are, you're going to get a
natural reaction and to pot got another clip for him. He's gonna explain that once we stop asking them demanding of start. Interesting how hip hop rap music in the beginning, or song like Grandmaster Flash is the message where basically they were saying, you know, it's like a jungle sometimes I wish, you know, I wonder how I've kept from going under the whole root of what that song was, was basically saying, Look, these are the problems here, you know, and here we are 10 years or plus
later, those problems are still still there. And the intensity of the music has built to the no hope the I don't give a attitude. How did we get from from Grandmaster Flash to the message to where we are now? in hip hop? Again, you have to be logical. No, if if I know in this hotel room, they have food every day. And I'm knocking on the door every day to eat and they tell me they open the door. Let me see the party. Let me see like them throwing salami all
over. I mean, just like throwing food around. But you're telling me there's no food in here. You know, I'm saying every day. I'm standing outside trying to sing my way in. You know, I'm saying we are we please let us and we are pleased. After about a week that song is gonna change that. We are hungry. We need some food after two three weeks is like you know, give me $1 After hearing just like, you know, I'm saying picking the lock coming through and door blasting.
Yeah. And that's why you see the trains, we're seeing stuff like people are robbing trains. People are walking away from their jobs in mass. This what this symbolizes to me, and just like I said, through my experiences, people are unplugging from society. And I don't understand I don't think people understand how problematic that is. You know, if some well armed you know, elements in this society that can make things very hard. And that likes This goes from two
pot from 1992 was the first clip to 1994. And you can hear by the distance you're saying this is Chapman with the system, you know, well, even at the same time, he's, he's achieving so
much success. Personally, where he was like seeing things get worse, you know, for for people around him so I just I just want to bring this you know brains to the light Yeah, it's it's really people weren't listening and and what's cool about it in a sick way is that hip hop was just completely commercialized culture alized and people the the words just became meaningless just became a story didn't become fact or truth or reality. But hip hop is the voice of the underclass Sure. It no even even
today, we need to listen to what these kids are saying. And I don't say I don't mean kids disrespectfully, I'm saying the young, like, once they get to the point where I don't even care anymore. When you get to that point, that's when a person gets to the point where I don't have anything to lose. Yeah, that's a very dangerous place to be. Now, luckily, for me, personally, I've seen a person go through a change like this.
My father and my mother, they went back to college, in their 30s I mean, literally back to college, not not like a phoenix, you know, saying that, like, I'm sorry, mom picked up the family, quit their jobs. And cuz my dad saw he was like, okay, at 485 He's starting to see like, the jobs leaving the country. Mm hmm. So he's like, Well, this job man cuz he had a good job.
He was a technician. He had an interesting had, he had the equivalent what it was to two year degree, and he had already achieved enough credits to get it but he was saying he hadn't, you know, didn't know that he had enough credit he was you're still going to school. And, um, he finally realized that him my mom said now like, you know, what, if we want a better life for our kids, we need to make a decision. And they packed up their things pack this up, and we moved to college town and
they went to you know, university. Now when they got there. This is when this this is where the no man house. My dad ran into it. Could they tell him he's like, Well, because they couldn't find daycare for me. Because he was there. So and in the social worker literally told him like, well, the minister was to leave the house. We could find daycare. From Oh, wow. Alright, and that was and that was what year 280 84? Wow. Yes. So this is not so antiquated thing. This is this
is I've lived most of the stuff I talked about on the show. I've even lived in a one degree away from it. And my dad's like, hell no, I'm not he basically cuts the lady out. I mean, anger like once again, like, What are you saying? He meant to entice just insane. But it was saying I mean, like normal, like, hey, you know, Sammy leaves, we can do y'all to help you need. And I'm seeing the same thing crop up now. Because when you lose your job, you lose your insurance.
Child Protective Services is a very odd division of government. Well, I have a whole lot to say I have a Yeah. As is very ham handed at best. Let me just say that. It's one approach solves all problems. Which in these cases, no family is the same. No child situation is the same. I don't want to extend goes too far down that rabbit hole down that rabbit hole, but and we'll
talk about their upcoming shows, trust me. But the fact that when I'm saying is when the woman is presented with the state, which can provide, right? She's looking at her man, like you ain't working. Yep. And it's somehow like, Well, you wouldn't even then it becomes and it's not my personal choice not to make it very clear. But when she looks at you and say, All you had to do was take a shot. I know right? Now she's like, well, this government will offer me Medicaid or Medicare,
whichever one it is. If you're not around, and I can get help, I can get daycare. I can get this. This we're gonna see no man in the house. 2.0 I believe. Um, and the cool thing about it is pretty To the show because this is coming from and I know there's a lot doback clips but we had to look at them in context now in a certain way that we have looked at them before, but long before me you hooked up you and John, we're doing the no man in the house because this is actually from a
no agenda clip. I had covered it as well. But this is what from one of the shows it wanted to produce sent me back for show too. But this is a recap of Noman house one. Before we move into Pruitt I go, the Welfare Department came to our home. They talk with my mother about moving into a housing project. But the stipulation was that my father could not be with us. They would put us into the housing project, only if he left this state. Oh, yeah, that's right, the state I remember this.
And I said that was then. Now we talked about 1984. Yeah, Mr. Stan, if you just leave, everything will be alright, what was standing as the Father for you. And I got a weird feeling a eerie feeling. This is gonna be the scenario once again. Because once you run through all your statements, once you run through each and every option you have, yeah, there's going to be one main difference. And it's going to be a digital payment with a digital wallet with a central bank, digital
currency from the Federal Reserve. That's how they change the system. We're going to remove retail banks, and you're going to get direct direct pipeline to the government, which gives them the ultimate control of giving you something extra or taking something away. And they can cut you off any minute you didn't do this. You didn't get your update and you're saying your key is not updated on their shots, or you watch the wrong Netflix show. Or listen to the wrong podcast.
ixnay on the odd guy, odd cast pay. I'm sorry. You know how it goes. I mean, this is the time that we're in there with you. So let's just get into this second No, no man clip the welfare department had a rule that no able bodied man could be in the house if a woman received aid for dependent children was a man lost his job. He's looking for
work, he still had to leave the home. And there was even a night staff of men who worked for the welfare department whose job was to go to the homes of welfare recipients and they searched to find if there was a man in the home i Remember also our our second episode talking about this how mind blowing it was to really understand in depth what had gone on and was still going on. And and just coming back for it was going on because dudes to wrap up the story my personal
story. Oh, my dad was like before I leave, we had to send mo to live with his grandparents with his auntie and uncle in Bel Air right? No. Grandma and Grandpa ritual apartments which I he was in the country, they call them projects, but they were rent controlled apartments. And literally, he was the man renting out the back door when the inspectors came. Yes, yeah. So I'm, like I said I've lived this and so now it's like okay,
now I see what the state set with this. Because whether I'm right or not, I feel like there's an enemy contra break me to their wheel. And I don't care how how kumbaya or nama stay and all that you are. When you feel like you have a target on your back. It's gonna make you angry. Yeah. It's gonna make it's gonna make you angry. Now, like I said, My anger is different. Because I do have other options before me, but that still doesn't negate the fact that someone arbitrarily just do.
You're saying a whole damn wrinkle in my whole life? Behind what? For what reason for what outcome? Yeah, again, I only have one answer. What is that? I mean, I say it one more time. It's intentional. It's intentional. So, so if it's intentional what is that now that ratcheted up the anger? He's like, if it was ignorance, it's like, okay, they're just ignorant. You know, I mean, even though I'm mad and I'm saying Nate was ignorant, you were
saying was ignorant mistake, if it's intentional. Now I got to see like how Are you willing to take it? I think that's where a lot of people you heard one lady said about the mask, you know, saying it was in the news. I'm gonna show it with all my guns loaded. Did you see that? I didn't, but I understand. I understand. She was at a school board meeting. She was like, I'm gonna show up. When you start hearing people talk like that. Somebody needs to doubt that the pressure somewhere?
Well, I think Canada will lead the way. We'll see what happens with these truckers and that will that they're going to be it's going to be resolved one way or the other. And it's going to happen pretty soon. I don't think this will last very long. And you know what, that's where we differ. And this is his perspective. Because this system, they No, no, stop, in my mind. They know it. No, I don't think we differ at all. I'm saying that protest is not
going to last very long one. The pressure? No, no, the pressure is on for a long. This is just the beginning. We're just getting started. Okay, Mr. Mr. Joe? No, no, no, no, no, I'm with you on that. This is what this is why we connect so well. We know that these are reptiles doing this. Like this. I think it was a Neely, Fuller said don't be confused and think that they're confused. Exactly. It seems like they're like, what they're all over the place. Like what are
they doing? No. Do they know clue accent? Do they know what they're doing? Do? I mean? Do they realize that's the thing? That's the question. But don't ever begin your scent when you're talking about they capital A. We don't ever begin your sentence. They do they realize they realize what they're doing. And I've been caught up in it. And like I said, it's the frustration and somewhat of the shame because if you've never not worked, but how do you say I don't even know how
to say that. Like, I don't work. I'm not working. You don't say like that's like I said that's a personal issue. But that's still weird sentence for me to say. But you are working. You may not be employed by a company, but you are working on staying working. I'm definitely working on a word to say is employed. Let me say it when you say you're not employed. Yeah, but you don't say that. I say I'm self employed. Right. But I'm coming from a place of being a worker for 25 years.
Yeah. Oh, I know. That's a weird sentence to put out. But I also I also know you a little bit and you've got it all in you. You are you have everything you need in there. Oh, yeah. And it still was not all doom and gloom. But what I'm saying is, first, we have to understand what it's like it's
not about me. Because it's people out here that made the same decision I had, and they don't know where their next check is coming from right there now dollars coming from those kind of you know, so I have to speak for the experience to say one to them, goes to talk to somebody. For the people that know people like that reach out to your brother. You're saying and your sisters whoever saying but for me and I said I'm making a show about men, because the expectation to provide is baked
into our identity. Absolutely, absolutely. It's hard, hardcore. I got to tell my wife all the time. If people come to our house, and it's messy, they're gonna look at you every put out on the street. They're gonna look at me. That's just the social norms of it. Nobody's gonna be like, like Wow, did you see most houses really a mess? Right now? What is it? What is
he doing over there? They're gonna look at the woman because it's just assume that the woman takes care of the home and make it knock said that could be totally far from the truth but social expectation, I'm talking about social norms. So we talked about no man house and my dad he was placed with the same thing.
And he was like, You know what, I'm not going to come to the Nomad no man house so they sent me to live with my grandparents which I think it had an impact on me to live with older people for a year and a half two years and gave me a perspective like no other because their their wisdom. He was constantly interesting to showered on me. So am I'm just like, say you just get another kind of love from grandparents, you know?
Sure. A little different from parent love. So I don't regret that and my parents don't regret that but the stigma and shame my father felt So you're saying that you had to send one of your kids away. And we saw this with the Great Depression, CD thing. We, it's not harping on history, we got to look backwards. Um, the Great Depression, a lot of people had to send their kids
away, because they were starving. So it's by, here we are again, I wasn't starving, because if they wanted to have a better life than they had to send me away, you know, that kind of thing. And the shame that he felt, even to this day, he apologized to me, it's like that, well, you're apologizing for your way, you know, how to do what I had to do, you know, for the better life, or that kind of thing. So I say I've experienced someone in the middle of their life make a
decision. That's a better decision in the long run, but it's gonna be hard. It was hard those years when they went to college. I mean, it was like the 1.2 places we ate out it was like Domino's Pizza. And Wendy's, who actually get like, go to Wendy's like a steakhouse. Yeah, and I remember Tuesday, like with the ketchup, like pumping the ketchup and the cups, man, you would think we were going like two cylinders? Yeah, yeah. But like, that's the know, him making the best news
and a tough situation. So this next clip is from the family. And that was the the Christian Illuminati basically. Oh, yeah. ran, ran by duck Co. And this also comes from the comm Kanye episode. But this is the family, the black guy talking about, you know, the frustration, but also dealing with anger as well. And often men and especially who are confronted with themselves, they don't like what they see. And they don't like it being put in their face and spoken to what it actually is in its ugly
database. But my point is, is the shame keeps us locked in our circumstances. And then if we don't deal with shame, right, we start playing me we blame our wives. We blame white folk, we blame Blackboard, we blame the economy. We blame doctrine, everybody. There's nothing scarier in this country than a free black man speaking. Why? Because we've been through some shit here. Yeah, so that's that's the where all this anger said. And it may be justified, that I feel angry. I'll put myself in this
position. Right to be dependent upon a company for this long, you know, saying like, it's their choice, at the end of the day, whatever they want to do. So what you have to do is reflect on yourself and say, Hi, I will not get myself in this position again, right? By right. Well as you want to absolve yourself, have your know what you took part in, even though that was a social contract, even though there was an understanding. At the end of the day, if somebody else feeds you,
you're at their behest. Right, you know, so this is what we have to sell. A lot of young people younger than you, but a decade younger, are just kind of now figuring out that there's no free lunch. Now, it's like if you say, no, but if you accept something, then there's going to be strings attached to it. Right? And it's not even about a free lunch. It's about there's no lunch. There's no lunch. Right? Exactly. There's there's no cafeteria, and you got to go out and kill
what you eat. Or you got to eat with the cafeteria gives you? Yep. Ah, I'm sorry, I apologize. You're saying but for for stepping on you like right there. But no, no, it's okay. Now, it was just like I said, I'm in my own head right now. And like, I wanted to do this episode, and I went back and forth on it. Still about the shame like well, you can't let you know. You got to keep errors. That's the thing. You got to keep up appearances. You got to keep up. You know,
everything is all right. And what you're what you're doing here is, I think this beautiful to listen to your venting. Yes, yes. You built your own barber shop here. I may not be the right guy to be saying stuff back to you. But as a man I can. And I think everyone who listens has the same feeling. It is kind of like hey, we're in this barber shop this. This brother over here has got some shit to say. And it's good. It's good to hear it.
And don't underestimate the fact when we come and do this is very helpful. A lot of the times when I make shows is when I'm either processing o r are being made aware of Oh, and we need to keep an eye on that. Or maybe people are going through this. And this is not about me because yes, I am angry where I was angry, make a team to be angry. But it's how do I channel that anger into something constructive? And that's what I hope people take
away from this. Whether you're dealing with a loved one, a wife, a wife, dealing with their husbands, husband dealing with their kids, or dealing with their sales or brothers, whatever else, realize, even when people say they're okay, they're not okay. Yeah, this is a very good point to be okay, Tina, and I remind each other of this often, if someone has a weird response about something, or you know, families, just stuff, and we always had say, Okay, let's just look at their situation from
their viewpoint for the past two years. Now, let's just bring that in for a moment. So you can kind of okay, ah, all right. So someone may be a little more on edge than than I may be. Yeah, in, they may be dying for you to say something to them. Just like, I wish somebody will ask me, am I okay? Yeah. Ah, and that's why, like, when you separate somebody from their
job, you separate them from a part of their culture. It's no, we have work families, and somebody that sees you every year saying every five days a week, every day at the lunch table, they can sense something, right? And it's like, do you I, it's like not, honestly, I, and then you're getting a conversation about a time to lunch is over. You're all laughing and you left it there, that kind of thing. So at least like because the people that you work with, they share your social economic status,
oh, it's not just a job. It's very important. An important part of life. And they can understand when you say, Oh, well, you know, my transmission went out, you know, interesting, a couple 1000 Ooh. But can they understand like, we make similar money, understand how that hits you. Whereas if somebody either they don't have a car, or they don't have all ages have the money they might not understand. So this the separation for that. I would say
to people start forming your own groups. I think that's why the no agenda meetups are important. Yeah, I think. Yeah, I think that's why the facts family when they come to the live chat, they look forward to seeing each other. Um, so yeah, so it's, you have to start forming other groups, because we've had me personally, no church, no barbershop, no job. That is very isolating feeling. Now, I'm planning this next to the clips. As for clips, and this is a 1960, frustrated, man demands
America keep their word. The reason why I'm playing these next four clips is when I hear this, I hear my father. And then now also hear myself. And hopefully, it gives some insight to that ratio program. I talked about how it how it forms. So let's go ahead and get to the first part of that clip. Here. Revolution is filled with so many ironies really, first, you tell us that it is men need to keep your word. Right, if you
are a man, you keep your word. And now all of the black people in this country are demanding and even the black people in the whole world are demanding is that you keep your word. You told us we were free? Well then show us that we're free. You told us that there is justice equality for all in this country woven kit, stick to your word. And let us see the justice and equality for all or else admit to us that you're not a man you were worried you were afraid of us you were afraid to give us
equal stand. You're afraid that if you give us equal ground that we will match you and we will override you and if that's what you're afraid of us then tell us that just what you're afraid of, but don't keep hiding it from us and holding this up to us and every time we ask you for something, you give us a little bit of something and it's all tokenism we don't want tokenism
and then most black men in this wallet don't want charity. And yet still every time we ask you for something you give us a little piece a little piece you're playing games with us when our children so you hear the intensity. And like said that's my thought like that's what time my father's own. Like even in his 80s Now he's intense person. So that's like I said, we're not here to shoot. Like, Fred Sanford. Well, I'll say this. My dad is a mix between I'll say more George Jefferson,
George Jefferson. Okay. Yeah, that's it. I mean, like, seriously? Ah, and maybe James Evans like a Bill Cosby like if you put all of those in like, Uh oh, that sounds pretty cool actually. Because cuz one charity when he made there, and that, that's what makes you say, I'm good at maths, maths and I'm good. i You're saying me something I'm good, even though you may be broke, and don't have $1 in your pocket, before I let you know, I'm not good, I'll go hungry. And maybe, maybe these, this
isn't the most ignorant mindset to have. But when you have the disappearance thing of, well, if I ask for something that only reaffirms in your mind that black people can't do for themselves. So we got to fake it till we make it. And like I said, I'm going through the mental process now in my own head and transfer it out. So he crosses microphone for people to
feel me. Yeah, I feel you. It's like, okay, let me let me ask you at any point and ask because I want to make sure we so when we understand when we first connected, and you reached out to me, and we're chatting back and forth. And then I think I suggested Hey, we should do this as a podcast. Now. And I don't know if you if you can ask this if you want to, but did you for at least a while thing? We'll see. Let me let me just pick up and give you a pleat, complete
honest answer to this question, one. I would never ask you to do a show if you didn't ask me. Right. That goes there. I'm good, man. I wish that's the ignorance. That would have been done to me not to but that goes to the I'm good. Since like, right? I never asked for help. A lot of things with the show. It comes out of that. It's like, Man, I could I could do this. No, no, you actually came offering me help. You never asked me for anything.
You were telling me. You were giving me information. I was asking you for stuff. Right? So I'm just saying mess. That's how, you know, saying validate your place in life. And in the world. You're saying like, I got this. I got this under control. Now you asked. In the back of my mind, what do you mean, in the back of my mind? Do I think you were just blowing smoke? No, I mean, more than I was was I? I don't know. I'm just I'm just curious. Not just, I mean, I mean, so did you at any point
feel? Oh, here's this white guy gonna help the black guy? No. Okay. Good. I didn't. I didn't never think that I thought, but I can understand why when you talk about your programming, and I'm, I'm hearing some of these things that wouldn't be in. There you go, we've learned something. The things I think you're thinking, because of a small difference in in us are not the things you're thinking. And you're actually you're actually pissed off or worried about? I'm not considering?
Yeah, and I'm going to ask you a question. Give you a scenario. If you asked me to do that. Without me proving myself, then I would have probably took that approach. But the fact that you waited to see and you decided to work with me based off of my ability and skills crossed my mind. Okay. Yeah, that's true. That's true, because it would have been the first time it'd been like, Oh, this is an outreach program or charity, because I got, I got accused of that. I'm sure you did. Yeah.
But they don't understand the work that we did. You're saying prior to it actually coming to the public? Correct? Correct. That we both got to some understandings. So yeah, it's the timing that you chose to use of saying, Hold on, let me wait. Not even wait, but I'm asking this person because I've seen that he's a valid. You know, he's capable of this. I liked our conversations. I thought it would be fun to record them. Right, right. What y'all are witnessing is basically what we
would do. You're saying in general. But this is my takeaway. Very important, actually. So the stuff that people were worried about, and that of course, I also had crossed my mind. It's not something at all that you that you thought about even though of course, I had no reason to think that because you're absolutely right. It was I was only thinking of a show when I thought holy crap. You were talking for an hour we should do an hour and record it.
You know, little did I know it was consumed like an entire day. I'm just kidding. You know, and but still, that was what was circling around. And you had no thoughts of that whatsoever. And then, you know, I'm hearing today, of course, stuff I understand it's universal, but stuff that I didn't know. And that's, that's kind of what this show was about. Like I said, this is more of a personal show. Because oftentimes, I make the show about the content, whatever the story is in the
media, and just how I perceive it. But this is an inward look to say what's going on outside and how it affects me internally. You didn't tell me that or us that you witnessed the no man about the house when we did that show. Right? Why not? Because it was more about the story, not me. Now, it's that's why I say a lot of these clips. They're throwback clips, but we're looking at their in meat internalizing or how it affected me personally. Before it was about the the presentation, I
was trying to give them the topic. Got it. So it's, like I said, this, I was a little leery about using throwback clips. Because I want to make sure we always have fresh content. But it needs you gotta remember, I grew up with to pot. Yep, you're saying 92 hours? 1294? And 14? No, you are you are consuming that shit. Like no one else's business.
I was living it. Consume me, you're living? Right? I'm actually because that means, of course, when you lose a teenager by rockstars those kind of things, you know, saying, Hey, you actually live it, you know? It because it has an impact on you. But you know, we're living this mentality. So I'm just going back and saying, This is what this is how these things stack up, you know, and shaped me. And like I said, these next three or four clips total. But these next three clips, is that
what shaped it shaped my mindset? via my father, but you don't ask for help. You're saying you don't let nobody know, you know, you need help. You don't ask for charity. And this is not exclusive to black because one of the famous scenes in a awesome movie Cinderella Man, when he finally had to go to the welfare office and get help. Once he got back on his feet, he went and paid it back. So it's a it's a very old, masculine mindset, um, that you don't take charity that you
don't take help. Not only no help lifting this, no, I got the you don't ask for help. But what I'm saying to people is it's okay to ask for help. Because of your feeling like I was feeling and I gotta stop right now. You of course I thank you. You're saying but I also got to give thanks to my man Eclass he's been through this process with me through the whole thing. And that's what kept me saying the conversations me and him having
you were saying behind the scenes? Ah, because I know, I know is really important to you. Yeah. Cuz we weren't at the same place. So he understands what I had to go through to where I got, you know, and but at the same time, he took the jump off the porch earlier than I did on a being an entrepreneur. So now I can go to him ask him like, okay, that kind of thing. So you never know how important your brother is. And how important you know. They are to you. So I
got to stop now and just thank him as well. Like say we of course we do this here publicly, but I just want to give him his his flowers. Now he's living. He's living. Yeah. Because that's a lot of times I'll be like, oh age like, man. I can't believe a PvP will play with me. Right? Well, man, all right, cuz you remind me like you reminded me. You're a free man your future's bright in front of you. Oh, yeah. Right, but they upset
my whole applecart. Yes, I was on the verge of buying another property and all these other things and like they just kind of this came in and like this kick during all that. So that's what anger came from. But we can go and get to the second clip now. What big man I've seen my father have to put it where all kinds of stuff. He was a big man. He raised the family. He went down shop, and he had to go around to the back door with his wife.
without asking for anything, we're not asking for any favors. All we want is what's ours. Now there are many blank veterans who are coming back and they're mad, they're angry. Do you think they're gonna sit down through this? Our fathers didn't have the knowledge that we had. They sat through it. But there are other black youth that are not going to sit through it. We know about che we know about offenen we've read the books of our revolution. We've listened to mounish quotations we know where
we stand. We're not going to sit form it. We're asking it if we ask and we don't get we're prepared to stand up and take it. If I ask a man, I tell a man, I am hungry. I tell him, I'm cold. And I asked him to do something about my condition. And this man holds a loaf of bread right in front of me, so I can see it. And I keep asking him, I'm stalking him to please
give me a slice of the loaf of bread. I am hungry. Then it is known by every psychologist that the next step in the progression is I'm going to knock them upside take a break from I'm not going to starve to death. Wow, it's, it's really interesting. So the exact same example as to POC but this guy also has the cadence and the kind of this that sound of Kanye. Yeah. Crazy. And you got to remember Kanye, his dad was a member of the Black Panther. Yeah, yeah. And you heard what
to do say we read the books of Mao. Like, once you once America, once we realize if you're, you're not gonna hold to your word. That was the mindset there. Yeah, yeah, we'll become commies. Yeah, whatever. I mean, like, whatever, we'll go with someone else. It's like a product. If you buy a product and the brand and start to fall off, you'll start to shop around looking for another brand. Yep. And I'm just gonna say, This is a warning flag. This is a this is not a, I'm not recruiting for Putin,
saying this is not what I'm doing. What I'm saying is, all those people in the streets that are without jobs that are saying, or without prospects without future back, that's that's the main thing, the prospects, because you know, we always can find another job, but when you ruin somebody's career, because all it takes is one year, one blank year on your resume, you're done. I mean, seriously, one gap year, let's just say if I stopped working for a year, and you're saying I
had to go back and look for a job, I'm done. I'm telling because like, what do you do for the year? Like, nobody wants you. So we don't want you kind of mentality. Right. So this is the kind of thing that's being played. And I'm glad you pointed it out. Because he said the same thing to two pots. There is plenty of food around us. We're seeing billionaires double their wealth. Yep. And then we're seeing the bottom people saying,
I don't want to work. And I'm not saying bottom you're saying in a derogatory way, but people to just say, You know what, I'll just whatever you want to give me I'll take it. We're seeing them be alright. So it's like, Wow, am I going to bust my tail? Yes, that's not a good position. Right. So um, and then Mike said, the way the corporation held these things, oh, you know, saying like, basically waiting people out starving them out. That's the other things like no
severance package. Like seriously. I mean, like, really, this is how you feel about us. So now you understand the distain. It's like, Oh, wow. Like, yeah, no severance after 15 years. No insurance. Nothing Not even. Let me go. Not even a personalized letter. Not he gave me a form letter, not even hand signed. So you're gonna, you're gonna say the best thing we think for you is to leave you without a job and health insurance during the World deadliest pandemic? That's that's your idea.
Sounds good to me, Bob. Yeah, so that's the thing like, okay, so Alright, so but don't come crying to me. Which shit hits the fan? Right? Compelling you this is not this is not this is not what, but I'm not confused, that they're confused. Exactly. This, this is what they want to happen. So what now I got to look at and say, Hold on, hold your horses don't take their bait. Just like we know, they're trying to bait people into being getting kinetic,
taking your stance physical and him. And I have to warn of that as well. So this is why I'm saying understand your anger, understand the source of your anger. And it's not just the mandate. A lot of people have lost their businesses. Due to the shutdowns and those things of those nature. A lot of people
losing their businesses to the supply chain issues. From destabilizing the workforce, when it can't find people that can will are willing to work because the Gerson government aka his daddy is is no basically supplementing the people not to work is like stay at home. So all these things I know I'm not confused. They're confused. So What are y'all really trying to do this? That's my question. Like what are you really trying
to do it's a huge problem. But we can we can continue I want to go to a number three now. All we're asking, no one wants to see let no one likes the smell of blood. No one wants war. Anyone who has been in what doesn't want war. Everyone knows what it is to see the inside of a man's gut hanging out and see your friends die, see relatives die. No one wants to regress back to the state of mind where you have to think it's all for the cause. Therefore, my mother
has to die. My wife has to die. My brothers and sisters have to die. No one wants that. But you're pushing us to it. You leaving us no choice. We're asking what begging the students have a Columbia they have the brothers down south as the brothers in Latin America, the brothers on Africa, they're all henskee only doing is asking our fathers and our grandfathers and the presidents of our universities, all colleges had to go to your bank doors to beg that their children be given
just enough money so that they can be taught. So they deliver. And yet still asked and asked and asked and you refuse to give him anything. We're just about out of patience. We're not going to ask anymore. And that's the whole point. We're just about out of patience in the 1960s. Right. And like you said, my way like I said, the my father, I seen the way this country you're saying dealt with him and my grandfather. And I was that one generation post. A state
sponsored racism, Jim Crow, that kind of thing. I never saw a water fountain with a bright color sign on it. My dad did. His dad definitely did. So it's right. When you think like, I own a godfather, right? When you think when you think you're out? Yeah, they suck you back in, you pull me back in. Just in the end, like I said, I thought it would always be I thought the racecar would give me good news,
who knew that that car would get me. And I can say that's, that's a very morbid way to look at it. But that's the mentality that's suppressed. You know, I have a wonderful light present. But at the same time, it's like, you have in the back of your head, like some some crap can go lift. They can go live, you know, it's my time is is where you know, and then when I saw it, but luckily enough, I was able to see it come in way off and prepare myself appropriately. But if I didn't have that sixth
sense. Oh, so shenanigans about to go now. I could have easily been in a far worse position. Say if I would have told you no, I don't want to do a show. Adam, that's not really. It's not really something I want to do. It was and then this happens? Where does that leave me? You feel saying so? I thank you for creating the Jireh podcast. And a lot of other people do as well, I'm sure you're saying because now it's twofold. One,
it gives us outlet. And then two, it also gives the opportunity to use and to earn as well. Well, and and as a third is you're spreading information that I have never found before in this format. So you're you're helping people understand and it's it's benefiting the it's benefiting the world. So this is this is this is to me. I mean, I think you said the other day, we were talking about stuff, you know, what happens if if you blow up and you got like $500
billion, and then you won't want to do the show? And I was like, No, even if I had 500 million this show, I would still do. This is the one. This is the one I think I would pretty much do for sure. Right. And I say you could have took that the wrong way. But you see that was no more saying is you could have not seen you would. But that was me saying waiting for the other shoe to drop. Not you specifically. But that's the that's the engine.
Yeah. That's how we process information that if I can say I've seen how this country did my father and my grandfather, ah, and we had to talk about that another day. Right but, but just so you know, when certainly when you're an entrepreneur and when you're not, but even you know, I was fired many times for the stupidest reasons for my actual appearance. didn't want to cut my hair never for something that I know that really, you know, they messed up. But in general I
know that that's what was promised you. And that just doesn't adapt just that certainty is gone that that was ripped up. That's clearly that's, you know, that's out but let me tell you now that you're free and now that you are Yeah, you got your head on straight you wish you always had a you're a fighter. You're highly knowledgeable and intelligent, man, we are happy to have you on our side with, you know, with people who aren't going to despair.
Right. And that's the main thing like said, this is just me what you're hearing with this show. Hopefully, people It translates like, I hope it is. This is not Moby angry. And, you know, just just know that we're titling the show pissed off black man. I mean, that's, that's what we're doing. Obviously, this otherwise, you know, let's, let's, we would have put on the tin what's inside? But it's not. It's not that. I mean, angry. What I'm saying is,
you're seeing the process of the stimulus. And then going through the whole anger process. Sure, hopefully on what why I felt this way how I felt why I felt this way. Know what, what is it's under the surface. It's not like I'm walking around the house kicking, you know, stuff over there is a stewing effect. Yeah, and what I'm saying is me there, as a country, and as a world we're seeing is above the pots bubbling. You know, either somebody had to turn down, take the pot off, or take the lid
off, something's gonna have to happen. Because if this pot keeps boiling, is gonna get, you know, out of our control, and what I mean, out of our control, I'm not talking about that, because we can't control they their lizard, you're saying it is what it is, um, what we have to do is one, not let them turn us against each other racially, or across the pro choice, pro
choice argument of the round of vaccine, right? Because that's what they hope to do is have the infighting cause infighting amongst us, like in 1919, it's like, well, the immigrants don't like the blacks and the whites don't like neither one of them deal with the blacks and the blacks are saying that kind of thing. So I'm trying to avoid that, because I see that's where we're headed. And just to speak to that more, let's get into the fourth and final clip of the segment.
The news media says that it's only the young that American only the young that want this and want that, okay, we're 40% of the black population now. Oh, we were a year ago and we're climbing the following will be 50% 55%, then we'll have a command. We're not going to take it we're not going to take sitting in Latin parks and places that just aren't fit for living when I've got to take it is the limit to a man's
patience. And everyone knows that. God Christ heaven, everyone knows that what we're asking is not a million dollars, although asking was humanity laughing to be allowed to live like human beings? And God, you tell us that this is too much to ask is sick? How can you tell me that it's too much to ask to be a human being? You know, just to make it even sicker. I just learned today, you know, the Federal Reserve. There's this weird law that they
they can wait two years before publishing stuff they did. And in 2009, we had the stimulus, which you know, we were told was $876 billion, or close to a trillion dollars, it was trillion, five, whatever it was. And after two years, the Federal Reserve went to court and said no, no, we need it has to be a total of 10 years we really we really just so this is not 2012 to now we really need another 10 years. We need more time to be able to get all the information together and publish it. So this
just came out. Do you know what the number is of the money that they created and gave to banks not just in America but worldwide in 2010 2009 2.1 $29 trillion. Now, when you hear that now must say you my first reaction to the ratio program Hear me, which you can't do a told me. Exactly that's that this is why I bring it up. The guy even said when I asked for a million dollars now of course, this was, you know this this screws, all Americans citizens around the
world actually screws everybody. But that audacity exactly what you're saying this is there's your proof right there plenty of money to do all that 30, almost $30 trillion. That's that's more than our entire deficit and I think we just hit $30 trillion as the known deficit, but there's no money for atonement or anything or anything. And before we get into this, we were being robbed. We're being robbed blind. Right. And that's the thing is like, that's what the analogy that
Tupac was saying, you know, that the money is here. You know, they have the money is how they choose to spend it. Uh huh. Because remember those shovel ready jobs when that money was being handed out? Oh, yeah. shovel ready to mount you just say almost $30 trillion. But now we have bridges falling down. No, but that, but that but that that's not even the money that that's the secret money. That's the secret money we didn't even know about?
What I'm saying is but why in this country? Yeah, we have bridges falling now when we've used grant through $30 trillion. Oh, there you go. So at this time, you have people complaining about schools and poor neighborhoods and those kinds of things is being Hello Baltimore, right? Being mysterious and deteriorated. And then it's like, see, it starts with us? Well, your wife schools were in poor shape, those breaches were getting even
accelerated. This is this is not even in fact, this, this show won't even be about race in a year from now. No. Point. As more they've pushed us in the same corner. It'll be self evident. Like I said, this, this is bigger than race. This show is not about race. It's about how we perceive
things differently due to the racial programming. But here's what I mean by program is just the how you digest it and interpreted Okay, but what this means but the mistake, the mistake is by not by not hurting everybody equally in the timeline, this show, and certainly we're not the only ones are able to understand that this is what's coming for everybody. Right? We just the beta, which is the beta thing, like your rollout, the rollout, like Jim Crow was just a beta test for
where we're at right now. It was just like, that's, that's the t shirt. Jim Crow was a beta test. I kind of like that. It of course we misinterpreted but, of course, of course, it would be. But that's why I can see and made the mean of the vaccine and water fountains. Yes, I can see it coming. It's like, can you not see it? And that was over. Almost two years ago, I think when I made that meme, or at least the year close to but, um, with all that said, that ends
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we believe in in equality for all races, all genders. The challenge is that while our conscious selves are egalitarian, we still hold these unconscious, or somewhat implicit biases that have been primed in us over many years, largely through media. And culture. One of those stereotypes is we equate black men with fear. When race drops into a conversation, our executive
brain shut down on both sides. So if you are a white American who is, you know, a very fair minded person, race is presented to you, your brain will start to wonder, you know, is what I'm about to say next, going to be perceived by the other person as racist or biased? And if you are of color, your brain likewise shuts down, right? It says, okay, is something about to come at me, that might be an opportunity to invalidate my life experience, both of your brains are going into fight or
flight mode. It's just not a recipe for a meaningful, honest dialogue around something that's so critical and so important. Well, there you go. Exactly what this show is it combats is exactly that problem. And then, but the opposite of what we do would be the lizard brain. Yeah. Because they want you to get into the flight fight
or flight mode. Yep. The amygdala. Yeah. So that's the whole point is, they don't want us sitting down and having a conversation like we do, because that defeats the lizard brain. And now and that their way of thinking. So I brought I brought this up one, as you heard that the anger thing is scary. You know, if you're a if you're angry, black man, that's a scary
thing. Yeah. Give us the link. Go back to like I said, when I'm at you, okay, Mo, everything all right, Mo, he was saying when I'm sitting here thinking, and I have my thinking scowl, or is my wife to say get those knots out of your head? You know, you have that those lumps in your forehead when you're thinking. So if something conscious that you had to be, there's something that you had to be conscious about, excuse me, and I want to
make an observation, just observation. If you notice, celebrity, I mean, I'm not celebrity popular people on the conservative side, there are black men typically have to smile a lot. I've noticed this, and I'm just saying, I just noticed it, because I'll explain why. The Democrats are the left they weaponize black anger. And they say we're this is this is the Democrats play. And I want to this goes back to the last
show again. So black people when they're facing black people, they say we're the only thing keeping them from lynching you. Right? That's their play. Right? So they need black people to appear angry so they could turn around to the white sector. And say, we're the only thing keeping them under control. And not going off at Terry everything go. Now, back to my point about the conservative smiling that this smile, kind of like says I'm safe. I'm okay. I'm not interested. I'm not
angling. And it's not just in politics. It's in you're saying in fields of work as well. But I just noticed this thing. And Larry elders is one of them. Not saying no, for his smell. No kidding. Yes. Right. So that's, I was wondering what your example would be I was thinking about that Larry elder is good one. But the fact that they're you have already pre thinking about that lets people know, I'm safe. And I'm not saying he purposely
does. That's not what I'm saying. What I'm just saying is for optics purse purposes it politically, the left wants you angry. So they could promote that essay. We're the only thing that can control them. Yeah. And they have a story for both sides. Right. Right. So I just want to say you're saying that that that stereotype of me angry is very pervasive. Because I don't know why Black anger is more potent or seems to be or the narrative around it is more potent or dangerous than any other.
Long, long, long period of programming. Yes. Well, I've lived this and it's crazy because you're conscious not to smile too much. Not to be taken silly. But then also not to be frail too much to be seen as Millison. That sounds this sounds real. be tiring it is. If you're conscious of it, now, once you break through to the other side of you don't give a rat's ass, right. But when you're living in the paradigm, or in the duality of, Am I Am I
a nice guy? That kind of thing you know. And that's another form of you're different. You're saying that's another form of it. We talked about last show. If you're always smiling and nice and fun and that kind of thing, or you're different. It's very interesting that this mirrors or parallels, in many ways, the life of a celebrity. I know it's a twisted comparison. No, no, no, you're right. But they're trapped. They're trapped by it. And I've witnessed this to some minor degree myself. I
was held hostage by my hair, as an example. But you're trapped. And you certainly can't be seen, you know, when you scout boom cover of National Enquirer, huh. And I'm glad you made that point, because it just sparked a thought in my mind. Notice when Kanye when he's caught smiling, he goes, it's actually a meme of him doing this, that he's caught smiling a basketball game or something. And then he just goes blank face, like a stern look on his face, like bright, bright.
So it's cusses you want to be taken seriously, but then you don't want to be perceived as angry. Right? It's a weird, it's a weird spot, if if you subscribe to that way of thinking, but it's baked into your programming across all your years of going through public schools and everybody for everybody involved, right? Not to, you know, and goes back to lynching, because you will be conditioned, not in these times more per se, but like men that raised us, we're conditioned,
it's like, we don't want to come off as angry. You don't want to come out, you know, that kind of thing. So the conditioning is there, you know, just you know, just lighten up, lighten up, you know, that kind of thing. So, I just want to point that out. So now speaking of anger, one of the most famous angry movie clips is from network. No, one you did just, I want to do this. I think I want to do it this way. Let's go just go ahead and go to Network. Are you familiar with that movie?
It's one of my most favorite movies ever. Are you kidding me? This right up there with Charlie and the Chocolate Factory? I wish one knew it. Oh, no. The old Of course. My anger not insult me mo do not know. So. That was a piece of crap that second went on and what they were but Charlie and Charlie, Charlie and the Chocolate Factory? Yeah, he's one of my favorite movies as well. But yeah, let's just go ahead and do it in the switch or let's get
into 23. First, this is network. And I'll Mattis Hill. I don't have to tell you things are bad. Everybody knows things are bad. It's a depression. Everybody's out of work, or scared of losing their job. The dollar buys a nickels worth. Banks are going bust. shopkeepers keep a gun under the counter. punks are running wild in the streets. There's nobody anywhere seems to know what to do. And there's no end to it. We
know the air is unfit to breathe and our food is unfit to eat. We sit watching our TVs while some local newscaster tells us that today we had 15 homicides and 63 violent crimes as if that's the way it's supposed to be. We know things are bad worse than bad. They're crazy. It's like everything everywhere is going crazy. So we don't go out anymore. We sit in the house. And slowly the world we're living in is getting smaller. And all we say is please at least leave us alone in our
living rooms. Let me have my toaster and my TV and my steel belted radios and I won't say anything, just leave us alone. Well, I'm not going to leave you alone. I want you to get back. I don't want you to protest. I don't want you to write I don't want you to write to your congressman, because I wouldn't know what to tell you to write. I don't know what to do about the depression and the inflation and the Russians and that crime in the street. All I know is that first you got to say I'm a
human being God dammit. My life has value. So I want you to get up now. I want all of you to get up out of your chairs. I want you to get up right now. And go to the window. Open it and stick your head out and yell. I was mad as hell. And I am not going to take this anymore. So yeah, so obviously you would think he was talking about 2022 I loved it even had the Russians in there. That was great. And it had the um, the body count. Like yes, yeah, you're right. You're right. You're right.
It's like certain people shot. So others killed. So so this is where and of course, there's the beautiful, beautiful meeting that Howard Beale has with the with the guy, they with the representative of they up in the boardroom and he has that whole speech speech as well. It's like you have no idea what you're doing. Stupid man, this is not how the world works, right? But he was fed up. And this is kind of like how angry we could be good. Because anger could push you to action, if you
channel it correctly. So first, I just want to identify that we are angry. That was kind of like the first part of the show and given for me personally, where the anger comes from, and how was perceived through a certain lens. But now is this like, what do you do with the anger once you have it? Right? Because, you know, it's anger is not one of the things like I just make it go away, you know, because coming from a place of being
frustrated, or no uncertainty or those kinds of things. So, um, another person was angry was Christ in the Bible, as well as other members in the Bible, but I've heard about being a believer, I wanted to get into what they call either righteous indignation, or either righteous anger, we can get into 22. So I think we first have to realize that there can be righteous anger and then be unrighteous kind of anger. In the end, how do you know the difference? Certainly, I think
anger means it's, it's a strong feeling that we have. And we, we want to have be angry at the right the right things and not be angry with the wrong things. And so if we're angry, because this is some value of God, we're concerned about his glory, then that's the time that we can be angry, and we have righteous anger. But if we're just angry about petty things, things that relate to ourselves that we can't get our way, then those
are the wrong kinds of anger. I think we also can look at it from constructive and destructive kind of thing, that constructive anger would be focused on the problem, for instance, whereas destructive anger is just letting your emotions out and yelling at somebody and that type of thing. And you just focus on the person instead of the problem. So this is talking about the righteous anger. And another source of my anger is just the overall impact of everything
that's going on right now. To young black men, specifically, can I look at myself and say, Hold on, if I was going through this, now, at the exit, say I was in my 20s, early 20s. Yeah, how would you feel? What would it be like? Yeah, cuz I'm seeing guys, too, the same path I took. Some of them are homeless. I mean, like, cuz, I
mean, you work your way up. So the years that you were in college and that kind of thing, you're working, you know, warehouse jobs, and that kind of thing, where we could maybe get roommates to three roommates and survive. That's not even
possible now. Yeah. So that's another source of my anger. Just that's kind of the macro anger of how society's being played with and the impact of it and I understand as steam become more and more pressurized those that reason why I played this clip the order I did, the way we talked about this body count Chicago that's a source of this. This young men that don't know how to channel their anger, sure, or place their anger. And what do you do that causes personally you to patient you,
all you you, it comes out. And people are using this anger and frustration for political purposes? Yes, that's that third wave, we always talk about, yep. What gives what makes the person go out and want to loot and steal and that kind of thing. Instead, they get given up on society, and they feel like society has given up on them. So this is just more of another source. When I take it once I go through the process, okay, okay. You know, say I'm gonna be alright, bright future ahead of
me. Things may be a little bumpy, but you're saying I least got a runway and you're saying you're in aviation. So I just got to get the plane going fast enough to make it with the runway I have. I mean, that's, that's my challenge. But at least I have, at least I have a runway. A lot of these young men, they don't have that and they just been thrust into this
new world. And how do you cut How do you cope with it? Um, and I don't think in the fact that, like, sad is being weaponized and utilized to push political motors, that really makes me angry. Like, that makes me that makes all Americans angry, or at least if they know it should, right? It should, because a lot of these people didn't ask for this, um, he just the world changed under them. And I don't think as a nation, that should be the, that should be the
process. And then you'd say like weaponizing immigration and those kinds of things, is just gonna pressure out of the situation. And then we blame them, like, look at how they kill themselves in Chicago, it's like, Have you ever been in a situation like that? If you can't, if you haven't been, you don't understand. And I've only been adjacent to a situation like that, but I can definitely understand, cuz it's like this, I'm gonna be honest with you, a podcast, don't worry, if the job
don't work, and whatever is don't work. I gotta get how I get it. By that that hasn't last left me, you are saying now that could be working with my hands working with my bank or wherever else entails. Because at the end of the day, a man got IP this family, of course. So I can't like I don't empathize what people are saying I had to go get it. The way to get it now is
other options, of course. But you only know what you know, is well, it's what's interesting is, you know, for years, I've lived in the back of my mind, I mean, really, if Pay Pal pulls the plug, for some reason, I got a problem. I got a real problem. You know, there's that problem. Yes, of course, there's all of these. There's all of the I mean, there's solutions. But again, you just start to look at a problem say okay, at least
have a solution. And if not, there's a solution there and a solution there and a solution that that is also inherently American. We are, we do have some born in if not entrepreneurialism, ourselves, we have respect for it. beaten out of you? Yeah. Oh, yes. Or no, your entrepreneurial ism is a is native to humans. Yes, it's beat of out of us. Point years of school of form dependency. If I owe that scary, go make your own money. That's scary. You know, what you think
you can take care yourself. And then when you factor in, like I said, with insurance, that's the end. That's the deal breaker. And I must say to Republican Party, you might want to think about looking at reshaping healthcare. I've know they've they've dug in on this and sure, for financial reasons. But whoever figures out this healthcare situation, is gonna have a loyal following. Because that's the really that's the one thing that keeps people from betting on ourselves.
Yes, well, good luck with that. I'm sorry, this is just like the black vote, you know, the the the healthcare refix vote, whoever fix that they're gonna have they're gonna it's gonna it could be a huge opportunity for you. The insurance company has rigged and they pay both sides. It's way beyond that Mo. Healthcare is Wall Street done. That's it. You don't need to know much more. It's Wall Street. It's bullshit. There's it's shenanigans, and it's deep,
and it's not simple to fix. So people will fix health care outside of health care individually, it'll be a lot cheaper. You'll be able to get most of what you need. And I was just about to say that is that whoever presents the opportunity to say you know we can offer health care for a reasonable price Yeah, that's gonna happen. I guarantee you that's gonna happen. Now they'll they'll have a loyal loyal following. Yeah, so I'll just keep pushing it that but it just like I said, it doesn't
make any sense how they hold you captive. But let's go ahead and get into another throwback clip from Kanye because Kanye is kind of like a running theme in this Yeah. Because he's the epitome of betting on yourself. I mean, he has an album called college dropout. Yeah, don't let that be lost on you because he saw early on and I wish I had that clip I'll put in last tapes are basically saying you know, you go your life to get a degree.
And like the guy basically this this the punch line is his son inherits his degrees right. So uh, so he's been a big proponent of betting on yourself so that's why I use a lot of him in this in this show, so let's go ahead and get into 23 A. Another thing is like this idea of like apologizing apologize for saying George Bush don't apologize for running on stage we tend to apologize for wearing the wrong color. A apologize now you're dealing with grandpa. I've been through too much. I'm
I'm the founder of $3 billion company. He took off in a listen to somebody on line. Tell me who else wants to apologize for? Do you feel like it since you did get there? Do you feel any other pressures when people say Kanye didn't let them down? When we think about George Bush don't care about black people. That's when everybody was like all Kanye. And then when we look at Kanye now, I mean if we if we agree or not agree with you? Just when we when you say the wrong color hat?
Yeah, think about this for a hat. This is one of my main things like what is the culture? It's like, Man, this thing for the culture we're doing for the culture. We are orphans, bro. We are culture LIS we don't have our own culture. We signed to culture vultures. We signed our life away our contracts the culture, vultures, think about everything that's cultural. Taking a knee is cultural. Being on social media is cultural, wearing high fashion is cultural, push in a foreign is
cultural. All these things are not owned by our culture. So who designed the culture? What does it mean? To do it for the culture? That's why I do it for Christ is one thing that about Kanye? He didn't do the I'm alright man, when he really wasn't all right. He I think he even went to Diddy and said, Hey, I need some money. Donald Trump give me money. Anybody Invest in me, I got something going here. And he was right. But I kind of remember that is not a not a moment of Kanye saying I'm okay.
Well, I think he did it all the way up. And when I mean, he did it. Let me clarify what I mean. I think he played the role of I'm all right, I'm okay, up until it started affecting his mental health. And then he understood, I'm going to need help. Right. And that's, like I said, this goes back to the charity thing. The last thing any man wants to? And if this is general to me, is to ask for help. Um, I don't know. It's
just I don't know why. I don't know why that is. I don't know if it's hard baked into, you know, our gender role, right. But what's interesting is Kanye had financial trouble, he asked for help. Then he asked, he literally openly said, I need help. I got a mental problem. And they excoriated him for it for everything he did. He did both of those at the same time, because he tried to
play, he tried to go along to get a loan. But when he did that, it's a new, it's a new day America speech at the law concert. That was the point I'm not just giving that was grandpa talking. Right? Like, that's the point. And that's the point of it. Like, like, honestly, I don't like I don't give a rat's anymore. You know, I'm saying like, not about life, but just,
I'm betting on me. And this is this is the part of the developing the free mind, is that you block out all the things I said before the shame, of admitting that you're saying that you're betting on yourself, and you're taking a less secure route to success. Um, because at the end of the day, I had to live with myself, I have to look the 50 and 60 year old mo in the mirror and say, Did I leave all my own Austin own on the table?
Did I bet everything on myself. And I think that's what kind of what kind he probably went through because he, he really wanted the media's except accepting him. That was the whole point of running on the stage. You didn't give me my wars that I want. It's like, I'm a genius, but you won't recognize it. Then he realized that dim one and I'm just speaking from me watching Kanye very closely, but just watching from outside. It was to the point where I don't let you
validate me anymore. Your rewards don't validate me anymore. But it had to come to almost costing him his mental health. Yeah. Which is really the underlying whole point of this episode is one, man. Take a look at your mental health. Because it's going to manifest in your physical health as well. Um, and don't feel like you're alone. And if you feel like when your brothers is, is being isolated, reach out to him, pick
up the phone, not say he's alright. He's good. You know, um, pick up the phone and give him a call and say you good, bro. You're saying that kind of just that kind of thing. You might even be surprised what effect that would have because we're going to get into our dark portion of the show here and I promise there's a light at the end of the tunnel. I'll promise you. So don't think we're going morbid here. But we have to talk about suicide and black men.
I had a very informative interview with Dr. Joanne Frederick about the science of suicide along with prevention just moments ago. And yeah, you got to pick up on some of those signs, you got to pay attention a lot, Shannon, because this is just comes out of nowhere. Sometimes you just see people who are full of life, and sometimes the happiest people. And that's what I always say, check on your strongest friends. Because sometimes your strongest friends are the ones that need
the most help. I was one of those guys that always put on this strong facade, always happy always trying to make everybody else happy. Meanwhile, I'm suffering the sound and so you never know who could be dealing with somebody. So always just check on and say, Man, you okay, everything good. Even when you think they're happy. Still check on your friends. Make sure you do that. And your family members.
Yeah. So this, this is the strongest, strongest one. So I'm gonna go back to kayak for a minute because he had a line and song called gorgeous. And he said, If they ever saw black me, they probably try to crack me. So just going back to the mental programming and the racial programming, that this is a term called unapologetically black. Have you ever heard that? Sure. So this also plays into that respectability politics. Oh, si si respectability policies is a way of than weaponizing. You
deciding what's acceptable or not. And they make it about frivolous and trivial things. Like your hair, or Sure, Tarkin are this kind of silly stuff. Where it's really about is finding that sweet spot where you can be you. And society is okay with being you being you like Kanye, my before he was a hall, he was this, he was bad, you know, all these things. And so he found that sweet spot to say, You know what, I love
myself, I'm happy with myself. And until you find that mental health is a real concern. Most people don't find that, unfortunately, until much later in life, can be lucky if they're lucky. And some not fine at all. And it can definitely have a cascading effect on life. Because then you start seeing things. And what I mean by that is, you will see something happened. And in what shape this is where this is where that ratio programming
gets very dangerous. Because everything that happens to me due to my race, everything that happened because I'm black, right, you know, everything that happened me, you know, he could kinda eat Kaya could have easily went that way. And a lot of us easily could go that way. You know, like, this has happened to me because of who I am. And then you make it personal. It's like, well, I can't change me. So do you get a doom and gloom going on. And that then you find yourself in a dark place. And I
want to make a point here about suicide. And I want to ask you a question. Have you ever heard or is that perception that suicide is not a black thing? Um Gosh, that's a let's put it this way. It's not a spot black. No, no, black suicide is typically not the way Black Death is portrayed on television ever. Whether it's the news or fiction. Hmm, so so for that reason, I would have to say, yeah, it's not a thing. But not like black people. Swimming is not a thing.
Right? Let me give you a context we're seeing with the suicide myth, because the numbers are growing every day. And it's young black men that are that are harming themselves. But the typical suicide method that we see you're saying in our community, quote, unquote community is the long road to death. The unhealthy eating the alcohol, the drug abuse, that kind of thing. Eating I'm serious, like eating is a long
road to suicide. Sure, we all know what we're supposed to eat and what we're not supposed to eat, but if you don't enjoy your life, what the hell of dying young what is that? Yes, that's more on my plate. That kind of thing where it was gonna get me whatever it is that morbid. You know, if it's gonna get me it's gonna get me kind of in cuz Life ain't enjoyable anyway. So or in the bottle. A lot of a lot of people drink themselves to death. Now you weren't classified as a classic suicide.
But it's the same mentality they're sure not want to drink myself into harm and then drug is stiff. It's mandatory. It's it's nihilist. It's, it's taking hold amongst young people everywhere. But sounds like this is of course, once again, not reported. Of course not. And, like I say, older people used to have this or when you get middle aged. Ah, and this is touching on a lot of
shows I'm gonna cover later. But one thing that I'm going to tell you now Adam, one thing that dawned on me when I started working with you, is 40 is not Oh, I mean, that in the most respectful way becomes playing I'm explaining to you why. Once you're past your physical prom, as a black man, life's over your own now. It's time to athletics, you know, notice all heroes athletic course and understand entertainers, those kind of things. So if you notice, there's no and a lot of actors
get into this situation. There's no middle aged black actors. Either they're young and they play young roles, or even they go to the Morgan Freeman kind of thing, right? And I wish I had this clip with Dimmesdale said this, because there was a reporter kept talking about, you know, you know, the past she kept bringing out his past accomplishments and those kinds
of things. And he got hurt by it because he's like, let's talk about now because he understood if I let you pigeonhole me as an old man Yeah, I remember that. I think I've seen that one. Me and Morgan Freeman are gonna be competing for oh, yeah, right. There's there's no I'm trying to think like the like the middle aged actors are saying white counterparts there's always roles for them. But you're saying are there's always rows written for them?
But there's not in our in our case, because once you get past 40 year old when I actually the the middle age actor, black man is the overweight police chief. Yeah the one that's the one is amazed that you say you put out these these memes because you see it. I'm gonna give you a perfect example. Ah, the guy from the office, Stanley. Yeah, yes, yes, yes. Yes, of course. Stanley. Great. gwad a great example. The office is a racist piece of shit.
No, it's I love the show. Cuz that portrayal of their black characters? Yeah. Ah, the two lists on there. Yeah. Darnell, I think is Darna. Yeah, I forget. I forget their names. It was the handbook. I know Stanley. I forget the other guy's name but the guy with the fro Bach. I think it's Darnell. Some shipping. Right. That kind of progress. The the progression he went through. Going from Yeah, to the desk. Yeah, from I can I can
relate to that. So I kind of like my thing. Like, we're coming from the floor, you know, working way into the office, I can relate that. But going back to Stanley. Notice Stanley ate what he wanted. He kind of was like inviting death to come. Yes. That's awesome. That's that suicide mentality that I'm talking about? Wow. Okay. Yeah. So I mean, I have to give props to the office because they nailed that. Right on right on the head. As far as capturing that just like, oh, how sad
that we all viewed that as very funny. Yes. The more you know, yes. It's not funny. But again, again, another learning moment here. Yeah, Stanley is real. Yes, Stanley is real. Because once you get over that prime, it's like well, that's gonna get me and what I find out is this is not exclusive to black men. No, but but our physical abilities is so much part of our identity. Yeah, that once you're saying once you get the potbelly that kind of things like, Oh,
I'm over. I'm old. I'm just gonna wait for death to catch me. I'm gonna have another side of ribs while I'm doing it, that kind of thing. You know, and me sad. But that's kind of the mentality. That's why you see, and that but now you see you that's why obesity and COVID is running so because of that very
thing. But let's go ahead and get back into number 25. Now, and it's so important to get past the stigma associated with when you talk about stronger people well 78% Of all people who die by suicide are actually men as according to the National Alliance on Mental mental illness, because I think he was talking about being strong. A lot of times men are supposed to be strong and not supposed to share their feelings, they have all these emotions, and they go through these things and don't
know how to deal with them don't know how to cope with them. And that's when the help comes in. That's when the mental health comes in, that's when talking to someone and checking on other
people come into play. And don't forget about the guys that are in involved in these suicides also, that are the fathers, the brothers, the cousins, because Ian had a father, he has a father, he and Alexander senior, you know, his feelings and his emotions are going to play this is not just Regina King is affected by this, all the men in his life also have to now cope with this too, which could cause depression or sadness that
they're dealing with. So anytime that people are going through this type of thing, surround them with love, prayer care and check on them. And not only in this situation, but in everyday life check on him. You know, there was one suicide that I saw, um must have been might have been during Black Lives Matter protests kind of days as young black man and the in, you know, to the cops or he's like it, they were like smashing and grabbing or
something. And the cops, you know, it's like, you know, stop any, he turns the gun upside down on his head and just blows his head off. I don't know if you saw that. Not having I haven't seen that. It was really shocking for any for any child really, in my eyes to do that. But but that was one it's like, whoa, whoa, what the hell? What with how did that choice come about? But it's, it's funny you say that because that is a suicide
mentality. Yeah. To when you start smashing and grabbing and don't care and don't care about going to jail and don't care about if somebody kills me. Or if I kill them. This is all traits of suicide, that they're misdiagnosed by when you get to the point where you're playing the death, the death game, of chasing that adrenaline rush of just shooting at people and they're shooting at you, then then you're at the end there. But they wouldn't call them suicidal. No. Right, but it's
clearly there. And another point I want to move into before we get into the next clip is bothers. I don't know how men cope without having fathers. Because my dad is like, you know, saying, been my anchor. He's like he was saying, cuz I could tell him I call him he like, was not what was going on. I bet I'm pretty good. And he can tell when I'm not alright. He's gonna say that last three times pretty good. What's going really what's really going on? You're saying so the absence of
fathers plays into this as well. Great. So my father was not present at all, pretty much after I was six. Now I forgive him because I know what he was doing. And I and you know, he made he made a choice, but he always provided this as well as he could. I was fortunate because I had lots of father figures in my life. Older man, who taught me like, like CB radio, there's one one guy another one taught me a lot about big band music. And so there I was lucky to have people
in my life. But I do not have what you just said, Hmm, I do have it with with some of these men. It doesn't have to be your biological father, father figure but as with it with that I'm saying this responsibility for all men to keep your eye out and to help. Right and that's where to go back to the barbershop. That's why that was important. Because you at least get a dose of that
in the barber shop. Ah, they would know your accomplishment all you graduating high school heard you're saying that kind of go to church, the same thing. And you've isolated these people from these modes of support. Ah, Eddie Murphy and and Arsenio Hall really did a good job of kind of showing that I think, yes, cuz that's, that's the way in the barbershop as well. Ice Cube. Yeah. You have a diversity of age. The fact that everybody
has to come get their hair cut. So you get this the diversity of social socio economic diversity there. Um, so yeah, it's really I mean, it's a reason why I'm saying is, is we have to make sure people don't get isolated in these times, where isolation is running rampant. Because and I'll make this point Sometimes that people, even podcasting, main, make people not feel alone or live streaming, oh, sure, those kinds of things because they're like, Okay, at least, I'm experienced this with
somebody else, or I can hear other people talk. Like a lot of time people like to listen to us talk. Because they may be the only conversation they hear for long periods of time due to isolation, or just hear that they're not entirely crazy questioning things. That's, that's another reason. But yeah, it's, I want to make sure everybody's alright. And this is not exclusive to black people. But I know how we are that we don't want to have to
ask for any help. You know, cuz we don't want to seem like we're getting charity or handouts, that kind of thing. So I'll just say, once again, check on your brothers. And you're saying if you need help, seek help. So I'm going to give him 26 Now, but yeah, just just check on people. Because it's important and know that if you're going through these things, that there are brighter days ahead. And I live my life one day at a time now. And I wake up every morning, I thank God for the
blessing that he's given me. And I don't know how spiritual people are. But I'm very spiritual when it comes to that. Maybe not religious, but spiritual. I just think God that I breath in my body, because I always say that I'm far from perfect, but I'm better than most. And you have to understand that no matter how bad you think it is, sometimes, you have it a lot better than a lot of people in this world, but you still have to continue to try because Morrow could be that day where
everything turns around. So if you need help, there is help available, there's a lot of people to talk to, once again, the suicide prevention hotline is out there. But also just your friends, your family, your pastors, everybody wants to get in one 800 273 Talk is a Suicide Prevention Lifeline that you can reach out to, once again and if you feel that way, please speak up. And I'll I'll add one personal experience at the almost at the end of the show here. I had a moment in my life. I had a two
year old daughter, I had a big house mortgage. I had a couple 100 bucks in the in the bank at the end of the month, and I got fired. And it was real this time. And I did not tell my wife, I didn't I didn't really talk to anybody about it. I just was freaking out internally for five days. Just trying to think what can I do? What can I do? What can I do? What can I do? And was a part that was good? Was the coming up with scenarios? What can I do because I've benefited me later. But the
feeling that I had when on the fifth or sixth day. I got that like phone call. And in my case, they hired me back for four times as much. I decided right then and there. The one thing I'm not going to do is let it eat me up inside. And that's my point. Right? That's that's the demise the point of this whole show? Well, and it's something I was fortunate enough to just and I I'll be honest, I'm always honest, really. It was Anthony
Robbins. He had back in the day, he had cassette tapes. And I remember watching him you know, I've done some info infomercial late at night and like, okay, so I ordered his tapes, the power talk tapes, and it really didn't take me more than listening to one and I totally got it. And it was exactly what he said that feeling you have with your sad happy, jealous, all these feelings. You have the power to change that instantly in a snap of finger you can change that feeling internally and actually
only you have that capability. And somehow that has stuck with me and when I was in that position. i i Only when I was fortunate enough for it all to end at that moment I realize all the game playing all that was good for what can I do? What are my options, but the feeling is what will kill you. It will and that that's what can consume you. And the mental loop that you say cuz you can't stop it? No, no, no, you can't say anything. Is I'm not gonna say you can't because you can do all things.
But it's breaking that mental loop a lot. You know, like you were saying you five days you're just fretting. Uh, what's going to happen next. What do you start playing out in eastern area start playing out in your head. So I'm glad I thank you for sharing that. But I guess we can go ahead and get to thank the rest of the producers.
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seen a woman is good looking at $100 bills excites you. I could tell you why it didn't play but thanks for giving me the opportunity to bring it back. No worries. We had to do it. issues a technical issue universe will be thrown off. We can't have the matrix glitching you're right, like last time we left the door open. That was bad. Yeah, it was bad.
It was everything and go right to that. But let's go ahead and get into the final clip from Kanye and this is talking about the victimization mentality I've been canceled canceled be 40 had canceled culture. I was cancelled before they had to turn do you care about any of it? I do I care by everything. Does it does it not rub you the wrong way? But does it get to your core when when people do
rub me the right way? Did they say you turn who turned your back on the culture or exactly 100% I have turned my back on the idea of victimization mentality. We are locked up. We went from one to four. We went from one a four to one a three. But we always pointing at the white people. But yet we want to spend all of our money on Florence. We want to spend all our money on luxury as opposed to going and buying some land.
America is for sale. And there's a lot of barren land Disney bought a lot of it in Florida. But the culture has you focused so much on fucking somebody bitch and pulling up in a foreign and rapping about things that could get you locked up and then saying you about prison reform. Like, bro we brainwashed out here, bro. Come on, man. It's a free man talking. Democrats had his bone Democrats with food stamps for years, bro. What are you talking about? Guns in the 80s. Taking the father's
out the home. plan be? Lauren our votes, making us our board our children. Gotcha now kill. I can't tell y'all how to feel. But what I can tell you honestly, is how I feel. Yeah, that was such a great bit from that interview. And I can't tell you all how to feel I can tell you how I feel. So I had to look myself in the mirror and I said you can't be no victim, bro. That's the only way that is the only way you win
in this game is you can't be a victim. And the whole episode, I walk y'all through the mental process those five days you talked about? This is what I went through. And on the back end of it's like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Nobody has control over my life except me. and Mrs. Facts. Well, there's that. But yeah, that's best it you know. So, yeah, so I had a gut check Thomas, go Tom. It's like there's no, there's no room for to be a victim. You can be angry, but how do you go and
channel that anger? So I had to go back and pull out the old book, The Seven Habits, you know, say Oh, yes. Yeah. Yeah, you know, and I had to revisit the first habit. And the first habit is being proactive. And if you're proactive, that gives you the power and puts you back in the controller seat. So these next three clips are followed guys that were angry like me and was empathize with me. It's time to suck it up. Time to get proactive fellas. So let's go ahead and get to number 29. Habit one.
Be proactive. Basically means that your life is a product of your values, not your feelings. That your life or the organization's life is the product of your decisions, not your conditions. The opposite of being proactive, is to be reactive. Which basically means that your life is a function of your feelings, your moods, your impulses, other people's treatment. The underlying principle of habit one, be proactive, is to take responsibility.
Oh wow. That's so true man. And boy, are we being trained that to be like, you know how you feel how you make others feel crazy. Yeah, spot on. And he points out, I didn't clip this, because we're saying it was kind of buried in between two points he was making, but in between the stimulus and your reaction is your power to decide how you're going to react to whatever thrown at you. Yeah, you have the stimulus, me being fired. And then you have my
reaction. And in between there, if I just went off a gut feeling and got angry and stayed angry, they had control. But the fat I say, You know what, I'm gonna control how rare it is. So I did three episodes of Converse this week. I've been busy. I've been talking to people on the back end with the fax machine, you know, saying making plans, you know, more and more. It's crazy how the universe works. Because when you think, not in a lack mindset, but the abundance mindset. And I mean, that just
in appearance forms, not nice, esoteric ways. But just the fact if you get out of that loop of how you've been done wrong, and how things are bad for you, and look at, oh, man, I am free. I am a free man talking. Nobody has control over me anymore. Then the doors open for you. interest you. This is very interesting. You use the term I would use you said what the universe did. universe or God is God. But what I'm saying is I make I've never forced my my
religion on anybody else. So I don't want the message to be lost. Because they say God said God does not pertain to me, whatever you call it, whatever you're saying, Whatever you refer to, as you control with your mind, your outcome. That's right. By what thoughts, what your thoughts are, if you're in a negative place, things are gonna get worse. If you're going to run it from light and you and worry about get caught by that
light, you're going to get caught by that light. Or if you do get caught by it, like you're saying you got worried about it, guess what you're saying? It's just another minute, you're like, you're saying this about higher perspective, you put it in? So like, I never, I always make it a habit, not to leave people in a doom and gloom state. Because if you do, and that's very harmful. So like I said, I had to go back and dig out my book that Mahmoud Brahma gave me God rested, rest in
peace. But he handed me this book. And that changed my life that made it that sowed the seed, that this whole podcast in the spirit of water, to say, You know what, I'm beginning this job. And, you know, the crazy thing is, I always thought I was bigger than my job as I read that book. But it's like when somebody takes something away from you, and takes control out of your hands. Do you get angry about it? But as I was on my way
out anyway, what do you what are you mad about? Right? So it's just that that that's the point I want to make is, don't doom and gloom. If you need help, seek help. Adam, if you could please put that suicide prevention number in there. We'll get it in the show notes because I'm not Pooh poohing that you're saying it's some darkness, it's the opportunity to be dark. But how you respond to is how you stand in your power. It's that space between your sending the stimulus and
the reaction. That's where you decide how you want to react to AV USA before we get into 30? No, I think you I think you summed it up really well. The power of the mind is awesome, no matter what you call it, and whatever you're focused on. Here. There's so many sayings about this, you know, grass is always greener on the other side, but it's also greener where you water it. So wherever you're focusing, that's that's where you're going to go and
that's what I've seen time and time again. She's just what do you want? Just if you want you can clarify that you focus on it you go and it'll happen it's I've seen it my friends have seen it. You're seeing it. It's it's it's a crazy thing. But it's real not in that first phone call and the star opened the door for you, me and you to meet one day. Absolutely. The universe like okay, you stepping out on faith, okay, I'm opening
another door for you. And when you get there to realize the door be open here saying is another door and another door and another and you look back like wow, like well, how the hell did I get here? In a good way is like how did I get here? So now we're not we don't doom and gloom over here. You thought that's what you thought that's what this was none. So we can go and get into 30. The underlying principle of habit one, be proactive, is to
take responsibility. The concept is, you and I have the capacity to choose our response. If you don't believe that you're capable of choosing your own response, if you don't have that vision of yourself, if you're deep into victim ism, I'll just about guarantee you, you will become disempowered, you will not begin with the end in mind with careful thinking about the future, you'll be a function of the past, you will put second,
third, fourth and fifth things first, yep. With your ladder leaning against the wrong wall, you'll think Win, lose or lose win, you'll always seek to be understood first, rather than to understand. And you'll be constantly watching all kinds of relationships because both parties feel misunderstood. Ego battles will develop, at best, you'll end up with compromise instead of synergy. And you will not take the time to sharpen the saw because you simply don't have the time to get gas. You're
too busy. You're buried in the thick of thin things. Yeah, yeah, this is such a good book. So life changing. And the reason why it's life changing is it doesn't cost you anything to practice the habits. It doesn't matter what your economic status is your educational status, any of that anybody can start the seven habits today. And this is not a promotion of the seven habits per se. But it's the principles behind them of being proactive. Thinking with the
end, Sam beginning with end in mind. They're saying so on and so on. And it's one thing that he you're saying he talks about in there is and I want to harp on this just for a second. I know I said reach out to people and talk to people. But at the same time, look at the quality of people that you're talking to. Because if you're only talking to somebody who's going
to be negative, that only sends you negative posts. It only wants to get into this complaining, oh, you know, I'll look at another another vaccine story, another vaccine story, another vaccine story. You might want to start vetting. To say are we building? Or are we going to just stay in saying wallow in
victimization, right. So I just wanna I just want to make that point because Yeah, cuz you can you can have people to talk to it might put you in a worse situation, because they don't bring us and they're not thinking with the value adding mine. And that like I said, once again, I gotta pay Eclass for that, because his favorite line is, and he gonna laugh when I say this. What you're gonna do cuz that's his favorite. Everything you go through at the odd man, you know, it's messed
up. He said, What are you gonna do? Cuz? Well, that means it mess up. The running line between him is with all that said, What's your next move? Yeah, that's right. And, like I said, in that and when he best that kind of friend, you need to say what you sound like a little Mitch right now, you know, hey, you need to man up. It's a time and place for it. And of course, there's a time and place know, to empathize with your friend like, yeah, that is messed up, you know, that kind of thing.
But don't get any pity party either. It's a careful balance. That we need to understand how to strike. So, anything you want to say or no, I'm, I'm right there. I'm already you're saying you're doing a beautiful job. So what you're gonna do, what I'm gonna do is play number 31 You're too busy. You're buried in the thick of thin things. That's why haven't one is so foundational, so basic. It is
the vital foundational component of every other habit. Again, let's define it as the capacity, the desire to subordinate impulses, moods, feelings, conditions, to values based on principles to subordinate until little by little, our emotional life, which was once like this gets ironed out. You still may have some ups and downs emotionally, but there is a steadiness, a constancy in your nature, to where you can make
and keep promises to yourself and to others. where you can treat others with kindness without capitulating your convictions? In short, to where you can begin to practice the other habits, which build on top of it. Yeah, and I'll add my personal recommendations for maintaining your emotions. Turn off the television and do not go on
social media. Those two things are critical. When you want to focus on something else, you don't want your emotions playing with you because the trickery is so deep in the world is geared to trigger your emotions. 24/7 Yes, and we tap into it soon as we wake up. Oh, yeah. Especially at a point. And I had my alarm on my phone rings and this is the stories for the day. Oh, no, no, no, no, no, this is not healthy.
I'm not I'm just saying I'm just letting you know. I'm saying transparency, you're saying this that what you're saying is very true. That they tell you what to worry about. At the point of waking up, it's like this is the stuff you had to be worried about today. And when I realized that you know I don't use it anymore. But yeah, it's it's real like that. So hopefully just this introspective ride I took you on um, help somebody if
it helped one person it was worth it. Um, I think it helped you and it helped me and it helped everyone who's listening this is this was beautiful to witness to see it all unfold. It definitely helped me it definitely right and this this was a good getting the toxins out kind of thing and and like I said, let people know where I'm at right now I'm back on the
seven habits. I never went away from them but it's a refocusing and now it's just being proactive and you know, growing growing this thing to I don't think people really get how big the end is in my mind. Like I'm beginning with the end in mind and then they'll see me but I have an idea I have I have ideas of how are you from the future so you're gonna say thank you for doing this mo this was I know it was personal for
you. You put a lot a lot into this not just the work for the clips, but thinking about what you want to say and I really enjoyed it and I learned a lot as usual, but maybe a little extra more today. I'm glad you enjoyed it. And as I always say pay attention to everything and the true reveal itself.
And again, in the show notes we'll have the suicide prevention hotline along with the seven habits of highly effective people and the video series black man get you some therapy which I'm gonna watch I'm looking forward to it we'll see y'all next time everybody I'm Moe facts with Adam curry just came back and we have everybody listen, and I don't care are you? To show the world everybody knows messengers and I don't care when you call