More facts with Adam curry for November 11 2021. This is episode number 70 is going to be a doozy. I'm Adam curry coming to you from the heart of Texas Hill Country time once again to spin the Wheel of topics. From here to Northern Virginia. Please say hello to my friend on the other end Mr. Mole facts I am doing good mo How about yourself? We'll see. We'll see by the end of the show. Yeah, by the way, thank you for choosing this this track. I love this. This is so good.
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ultimate Wednesdays when I showed up drop. Come on by the YouTube channel. And you can find us at eight o'clock on Wednesdays do the last tape and that's the interactive newsletter for the show here. Yeah, and it's a it's definitely something you want to check out. If you want to dive even deeper than the show goes. It's I tuned in and you were doing the whole Magic Johnson thing. I'm like, Okay, this is deeper than we even went on magic shots. Yes.
Like okay, okay. The perspective was great. So I know today's gonna be a fun show. Are we ready to whip her around? Yeah, please. Alright, there it is. The wheel of topics round around and goes where stops? Nobody knows. Well, of course, Moe knows because he finally is able to sink his one note. And now he knows what the topic is. The topic for episode number 70. Both facts with Adam curry is I chose to be unvaccinated. And that was my choice.
Oh, yeah, baby. This is why it's a big one. This is why it's a good one. All right. This is what are we doing vaccine mandates the mandate? Yes. We're going to talk about the mandate. What's going on how it's impacting people, including myself or gingerbread? Mo? Ginger? I don't know this gingerbread. And what's the gingerbread part about? I don't know what this is. But the gingerbread man you got you run a UDP duck and you die. Right. Gingerbread man is? He might get eaten.
He might look. It's the jury's still out literally. So um, we got to talk about it mandate. I know a lot of people I've I can't remember what it was. But I've said previously, on a couple occasions now I'm not taking the shot. It's my personal decision. And as we see this has ramifications for having a personal decision. So what I want to go do today is talk about what's going on in news. Why I think we we when I say we people that are refusing from taking a shot. I don't like
that term anti vaccine because it's not true. It's no I like to say I am not ready to accept the vaccine into my life. I like that. But let me put it for what what we need to do is redefine the conversation from Pro Vax anti Vax to pro choice anti choice, because you have a lot of people that have taken the vaccine that are supportive of people that don't want to take the vaccine. Don't want them to divide people on whether
you took the shot or not. It's whether you think a person has a choice to take shot or not. Which is which is really what we're seeing a lot of now with many of the walkouts and protests within corporations. It's not just people who don't want this vaccine. It's people who support their free right to choice who may have been Vax already. Where is it? A couple of different things in there. We'll
talk about it as it goes along. But a smart choice today, it might be your choice tomorrow, but what I'm liking is, as you said, I see people sticking together on this topic and not be divided by the media narrative. So that's what we're going to get into is the media narrative going on. And the best way to do that is getting to the clip number two, this vaccine mandate battle heats up. Today the Biden administration put out new details on the
vaccine mandate for private employers. Under the new rules released by OSHA, the Occupational Safety and Health Administration. Companies with 100 or more employees will have to ensure their workforce is fully vaccinated by January the fourth unvaccinated workers who opt out of their requirement will have to get tested Every single week and wear masks in the workplace. The White House says this mandate will cover 84
million workers nationwide. Today, the nation's top health experts testified on the Hill about the importance of taking this step. Here's how Dr. Anthony Fauci explained it. Let me just explain very briefly, we know that vaccines
absolutely save lives. And we know that mandates work. If you look at, for example, the percentage of people in United Airlines or in the Houston Medical Association, or in other organizations that have mandated it works 99 plus percent, for example, with United Airlines. So if you take the fact that mandates work, and vaccines absolutely save lives, the answer to your question is yes, it does save lives. It seems like sound logic, right. Yeah. Right. So, so this term mandates work. Yeah.
You mean f CO a forcing people works? Yeah, I guess if you force it will not work. When you hear that statement? What do you hearing? I don't want to I don't want to lead the witness. Yeah. When I hear mandates work, that means whatever horrible thing we came up with, which threatened all kinds of stuff for people individually and as groups works. Yeah. If the government puts the boot on your face and says You won't be able to eat unless you take this, it works. That's what I hidden.
Right. But what a lot of people hear is mandates works me is actually helping me COVID situation. Oh, okay. I didn't hear that, obviously. Yeah. Well, if you're just listening and passing like mandates work. You're thinking well, okay, they must be helping the COVID situation. And not, that's not what
I mean. Right. And that's backed up, of course, by all kinds of jokes around government saying, Well, you know, the inflation won't end until everyone's vaccinated, you know, it's like COVID won't end until the whole world's vaccinated So sure, yeah, I can see how people are very confused. Right, because if you say mandates work, what he's actually saying is firing people can get you to 100%. vaccinated for your job or your employment employment. Yeah, that's what
he's saying. That's why I say 99.9%. Yeah. 99.9% means what that means, okay, we only have 1/10 of a percent of people that were allowed, which is the same 99% that that could be healthy. That will never have a problem with COVID. But okay, I digress. They flip the script. Yeah, they make your scene. Oh, yeah. No, my not percent works. Yeah, get rid of people that you don't want there. That's, that's
just these number games that we had to talk about. Um, and we're gonna may hear that a couple more times throughout the show. So I just wanted to point it out to you at first. Um, so I guess we can go ahead and get into clip number three. It seems like sound logic, right? Well, not to Republican lawmakers. Senator Mike Braun of Indiana is teaming up with 40 GOP senators to try and use congressional the Congressional
Review Act to block Biden's mandate. Arizona Congressman Andy Biggs introduced legislation that would get rid of OSHA altogether. And at the state level, a whole bunch of Republican lawmakers are suing. One of them is Mississippi Governor Tate Reeves he called the mandates one of the most shocking attacks on personal liberty we have seen in this
country during my lifetime. And you know, that's a real change of tuning from Tate Reeves that Mississippi Free Press points out that in 2015, when Reeves was lieutenant governor and president of the State Senate, he presided over the passage of a bill that would have locked up tuberculosis patients who refuse treatment. Mississippi is just one of several Republican led states to announce legal action. Ohio, Missouri and Florida are right there with them. And joining me now to discuss is Dr.
Irwin Red Letter. He's co founder of the Children's Health Fund and an NBC News Public Health Analyst and Dr. Red Letter from the public health standpoint, how how do we get to this place where states are suing over vaccine mandates? Well, this is completely nuts. You know, we keep thinking that it can't get any worse. It can't get any more ignorant in terms of what is being proposed, proposed or suggested by Republican lawmakers. I'm quite familiar with the Congressional Review Act.
Okay, so I'll lean on you for that. I want more of this episode to talk about the divisiveness in the media and how they're trying to turn citizen against citizen and turn them into lizards. Basically, we always talk about being that you thinking out of fear is fight or flight, or fight or flight, that's the only thing they want you to do is think out of fear. So how is it completely nuts that you would think that you would think that people would not have with putting a
experimental product? Let's just call it that into their body? The reason why I say that is, I'm a quality engineer. That's that's my job, or was or I don't know. But that's my profession is quality engineering. In that we don't see an experimental product to customers. That's a no go.
No, no, absolutely not. Well, and I'll just say that I have my opinion, you know, based on the mass formation concept, I, I'm starting to humanize everybody in this, almost everybody, because this guy clearly is under the same hypnosis as the rest of the 30% of the world who are just all in and just, you know, even if, in black and white, under the summary of the Congressional Review Act, it says, you know, this is really before a rule can take effect, an agency has to submit a report
to each house of Congress and the Comptroller General, you know, to explain exactly what the rule is you they didn't do that. So now for him to say this is nuts. That's because his psyche is in Oh, this is still an emergency and people are dying on the streets with I saw it on tick tock, and an antihero, and all these different complexes come into play. And what's crazy is that we see life going on, for people going
to concerts. Oh, yeah, he's saying down in Houston. People going to football and basketball games, I think, who's afraid of COVID when Travis Scott will kill you free, you know, easy. But that the only thing I don't want to get too far into that that conversation? It doesn't matter, because the only stipulation was that you had to be tested to get into the concert to be pressed against other people's Yeah, right. That's it. Just the optics of it is just crazy.
Well, that's Texas. Texas has an anti mandate. Order. So that's why and who knows, you know, that hasn't been played yet. But they probably should give that a go. Oh, well, you know, super spreader event, super spreader of death. But they didn't call it that. I did not beat record labels, and they don't want to piss out the superstars because this is a very fragile network they're holding together. I think the celebrities are starting to see we see what Aaron Rodgers is recent. Yeah, I agree.
They're kind of looking both ways. They see which way you know which way the people are going. And I think the people that's ahead of the curve are starting to see well. I understand you keeping people in their house by this Republican senator, he was okay with keeping locking people up to have tuberculosis. Sure. I didn't want to get treated. That's reasonable to say, Okay, you're sick once you quarantine yourself. And if you don't want to quarantine yourself, then we
have to do something about it. Right? That's reasonable to the general public, to say, okay, but to say, Okay, we're going to fire people. Ah, if they don't want to take a shot. And other thing is looming. I'm just gonna put it out there right now. There's a lot of people that took the first set of shots. Mm hmm. That you're worried about the boosters? Yep. They're seeing how it's gonna go to say every year, every year, every year, every year, every six months. It's gonna be I think,
you know, I mean, just by their own initiation. Yeah. Yeah. It's just a you know, so it's, like, I say to everybody to say, what's your number? Well, I'd like to think now, what's your number? Yeah. I need to preface this with one important thing that we all must remember. And I have to remind myself every single day, the the original sin, The Big Lie of this COVID thing was asymptomatic spread. And that lie, which is a lie. It's not proven, it's never happened before. That is that's exactly
why the example of tuberculosis is the correct example. Because you need to keep sick people home, not people you think are sick or not people who have had some kind of polymer chain reaction result that in indicates that they may be sick even though they don't have symptoms. You're not sick without the symptoms. And that's a lie when they say you can spread that not being symptomatic. And that is the
genesis of this. You have to have the vaccine to protect me, which is not how vaccines have ever worked. I'm taking on I'm taking a vaccine to protect me from Yes. And I idiocy, no, of course. And of course, we see, we see it's plain as day it's like, okay, that's dumb. That makes no sense. We both have to take the vaccine to protect each other because it doesn't protect you. But we see the fallacy.
People who who are all in are just going to be all in and you can't convince them we shouldn't have to and just the 40% of people who who are just going along with the program, they're the ones so that's your Aaron Rodgers, that's your Kyrie exactly that's, that's these guys. They're part of the 40%. They're not guys who just walk along with the masses. And as you know, from school days, there's not many people who don't walk along with the masses or eventually break away. But
it's a lie. That guys, the whole thing is based on a lie. Yeah, totally. There's a lot of people that's pretending to say, Oh, I'm okay with the you know, the vaccine, I'm okay with the mandates, that kind of thing. But when it gets to their doorstep, that's when things get real. And that's why I want people to start thinking about this. What is your in this? Look, I'm pro choice. If you want to take 10 jabs, knock yourself out, that's your
choice. But at the same time, you can't make people take something they don't want to take. And then not in America. Yeah, not. I mean, what we were saying, but maybe we're not an American anymore. And if that's the case, tell me that same. Just let me know that as well. But I guess I have a lot here. Um, I think we stopped at three, let's go in and get in the clip for you know, all I keep thinking about this. And I wrote an op ed about this, that President Bolsonaro of Brazil is being
held on human rights violations and criminal negligence. The president of Brazil, because of policies have resulted in excess deaths from COVID. And my question was, why aren't we holding our lawmakers and especially governors, who could follow state policies, for the same level of accountability is so preposterous, that we have grown up legislators, either suing the federal government or demanding that we not have mandates, and so on, it is so contrary serleena to science and
to what needs to be done to save lives. We have three quarters of a million Americans now who have died of COVID. And at least 80% of those were avoidable deaths. If we had been vaccinated, we wouldn't be in this very tragic situation where Now certainly. I think when you think about the avoidable deaths, that's when I get very upset because, you know, when we didn't have the vaccine, you know, that's one thing. But once we had the
vaccine, the politicalization of vaccines has cost lives. But I'm glad to see, you know, there is now evidence of vaccine mandates working you see, you heard Dr. Fauci they're elaborate on what he said there. Why do they work? Like, what's the science to back that up? They work? That's right. That's a good that's a good catch mo because I've heard it and I always just interpreted exactly as the way he means it. But I can see it's really a tricky
little thing he's done there. He's done a good job or Fauci Meister. So there's a couple points, I want to point out. One being, we need to lock up politicians. And then to the unavoidable depths. I don't want to put those two sides to talk about you. Go ahead. And I want to hear what you heard from the clip first. Oh, well, I heard about Brazil's President Bolsonaro, you know, crimes against humanity. Well, I, I know what this is, you know, they there's they brought a case in the International
Criminal Court, the ICC in The Hague overs handling. And in that they say, you know, they accused him of serious and deadly failures. That thing is the International Criminal Court. The United States does not even recognize this. This is a it's a marketing court at this point. So it's like, Alright, fine. It but you know, it sounds great when you say, Oh, he's been he's in International Criminal Court for crimes
against humanity. Well, there's been a lot of people that have been summoned in they just don't go that George Bush would be one. And he's also soft. Yes, true. Yeah. So is war criminal. But now so yeah, so That's kind of a red herring. But to throw that out there that we need to start locking up politicians. So the message is clear. We have to see who the
top totalitarians is here. I mean, that stent there go to because I'm like this, if you have such a great product, sell me on the product, show me the numbers, show me how it's gonna help my life. If it makes sense. I'll make the purchase. I'm a very practical person in that way. But the fat when you have to go to locking up politician and calling people dumb, ignorant, those kinds of things. And then the point I want to address is this unavoidable death. Yeah. And I think we
really have to get into this. Because a lot of people that don't want to take the shot that are believers, believe that your time is your time. Yeah, sure, I could, I could be sitting in a room, a patent room. And when it's my time to go, I'm gonna go well, so that means that believers could also if they can get past all the other potential issues of what's in the vaccine, or what it was tested with, that they would have enough faith to say, hey, it's my time is my time I'll take it.
It can be a cut cut both ways. You see, cut both ways. But if you believe, okay, so they say take the take the jab, and it will prevent you from possibly dying left us what they say here. 80% of the 750,000 people were avoidable. And my book 0% of those deaths were avoidable. Because everybody die is meant to die. I gotcha. That's it doesn't work. That's, that's a very fundamental belief. And I completely understand where you're coming from and what
you're saying. And I and I also, simultaneously, I completely understand why people will be like, That's not logical, that makes no sense. And they and you just never be able to tell him otherwise. Where his doctrine and this is, what I mean by doctrine in the Bible says your your days are numbered upon this earth, right? Means if tomorrow is my day to go with, um, jab, and jab, I'm
gonna go, I'm in. So taking in all these factors, people are making decisions, but the fact that people don't respect that, um, is, is the problem. What I'm saying this to the other side, to say what you're saying doesn't resonate. Right. That doesn't use the one, that avoidable death thing out there. It doesn't resonate with me. Interesting point. Okay. Got it. Yeah, of course. Yeah. So what is my time to go was my time to go. And as you say,
you're trying to humanize everybody. I'm trying to humanize everybody as well, because what really scares me is it's not the vaccine. It's this ramped up, divisive binary situation they're putting people in, and it only takes a spark to ignite this. That's what troubles me more more than a vaccine or anything like that. We've, and I say, we, Americans and humans have killed each other over far less than this.
Yeah, yes. I'm, I'm of the mindset that kinetic War, Civil War is much less likely in today's day and age, of course, that they can always be. And we've seen in the past two years, there's definitely violence is definitely possible. It just seems that the people who are all in are all in and are quite lethargic. And unless they got a specific order, kind
of like Rosebud level, I don't think anything will happen. But so that's what I'm afraid of, because you've got 30% of the world or just the country, the United States, you've got them all in there captured. And, you know, what do you say? Which, you know, yeah, it's definitely dangerous. But there's also a lot of pushback, and that 40% In the middle is in play. And when I say I don't think we're going to get into I know a Civil War, where we're shooting our neighbors and that kind of
thing. But when you get to the point where like, those people just won't listen. So they need to be pushed through that when you get to the point where your colleague, okay, maybe he's your manager at work. He's telling you, you can go home and you get you know, you're you know, basically we'll give you some time to think about it and without pay until you're ready otherwise, we're just gonna let you go or just continue not paying you good luck. I mean,
that that's violence. I mean, you know, it quote, unquote, that's really evil, the stuff that you're making people do to each other in workplaces, which are just communities. And that's my point and one, once you get that ball rolling, you get people well, you you've confined me to a life of poverty. Yep. Worse. To start stealing, start taking Start, you know, I'm thinking in that manner. So, or workplace shootings Mo, you you predicted it will come I see it happening, man,
I think I was gonna put that in the show. And since you brought it up, I'm gonna bring it up once the one group of people that was supposedly exempt from the federal government, the post office going postal. Now, the reasons given were not that of course, but but I like it. Yes. We didn't want those guys to go quarter. Yeah, it's what used to be called going postal. There was just a time it was just what I wonder if must be there must be a Wikipedia entry
for that, because that was the thing. Oh, in the 80s, I would say it was when it was really bad. Right. That's what we had to give perspective to people that wasn't around. And that type of thing was add me into the 90s. Because I mean, I was a teenager when I remember this thing happening. But going postal, that was like post workers were on a tear of coming in and in taking people out. And I'll revisit that point. I didn't want to put it in Michelle. Yet,
but going on. And as you as we both think that the postal workers are as they're right, by the way they started. I think it started during Reagan. There was something about Reagan. And what was their reasoning? I looked into that I can tell you there is I don't know, tell me hey, underpaid and overworked today, that would be that would be a reason. So if you getting rid of a whole bunch of people, and the people to stay
behind are the ones you have in that population. And people that were reluctant to take the bags, but took the bags, and they you overworking them in a stressful environment. Just by the sheer eyes of it. Yeah. Yeah. So I just want I just want to lay that out. And and I thought when I heard it, I was like, He's exempting the postal workers. The first thing that popped in my head was going postal. We don't want to piece these people off.
That's the first thing I thought to they had a different reason. I can't remember exactly what it was. But But let me enlighten people. They are not exempt. That's what I thought. Yeah. Because they're they're exempt under his federal worker mandate, but they're covered under the OSHA mandate. Yes. See, that's that's I'm telling you this is the things that we have the world watch for is the sleight of hands. And my
reference is the DC. The article says White House official clarifies where the postal workers are his vaccine mandate. And it goes on to say the United States states person worker employees received COVID-19 vaccines under rules issued by the OSHA. Yeah. And not the rules for federal government. multiple outlets are put multiple outlets reported Thursday. So they're not exempt. No, this is this is. This is a huge problem. And I think I think there's a plan here and
I'll get more into that later. I think we stopped that clip number four, yep. Let's go and get to number five. While they're working, because people want to go to work. They want to go to events, they want to eat inside restaurants. They want to keep their jobs basically. And the more we can say that you can't come to work here. Because the federal government's outlaws it. If you work for a company with more than 100 people, you will not be able to come to work unless you
get vaccinated. And some some companies will have an option of allowing people to get tested once a week, but the 17 million healthcare workers don't even have that option. Nor should you got to get vaccinated period. And I think I just think this is something that we're gonna need to enforce. And when we do enforce it, we'll finally get to the vaccination levels that will help protect at least some of the spread of this really vicious, lethal COVID-19 virus.
There it is completely conflated nicely. Yeah, nice, nicely conflated. Let me give you a hypothetical about a guy named Joe. Cat. Maybe I'm Joe cats. has been working from home since the beginning though the pandemic. Joke job 100%. Took me a second. I'm sorry. Yes. Okay. Let's Yeah. Tell me about this. Joe. Joe cats, dude. Let's talk about Joe. Just Joe. This hypothetical. Yeah, gotcha.
Gotcha. All right. So Joe has been working from home since the beginning of the pandemic driving his job allows him to work work from home. Joe doesn't want to get the vaccine maybe Joe even had COVID. Who knows? So he even has the antibodies. He's not pose any risk to anybody. But let's fire Joe. Does that sound like a good idea to you? I'm presuming that Joe was very productive during the the work at home period and perhaps even more productive. And no, it
makes zero sense to me. In fact, I'd consider having Joe continue working at home, quite honestly. Wow, that's that's my point. Why would you fire Joe? I mean, because we got to take these in pockets. Okay. There's a case going on right out here. And George, what an attorney out of George Mason, he's a professor saying he would have took the vaccine if he had it was available to him. But he caught COVID He beat COVID Now in the wild has yet to take the back.
So he's going from the angle of I had it already. Why do I need to back well, and and
let's just stop there for one second. This is the second most egregious part outside of what we discussed earlier, with asymptomatic spread, from purely purely medical perspective, you can really, if you really want to do the work, and you go in and look at all the different studies that have been done from reputable sources, including CDC, FDA, NIH, you name it, NHS in the UK, immunity from natural and quote unquote, natural infection is superior. And even if it wasn't superior, it's at
least on par. So there should be no reason to take a vaccination for the same issue to achieve the same unless there's a secondary reason. And we're, as Joe Biden said, not Joe Katz said that we're going to be testing people weekly. Yeah, well, that was going to be an option. And that never panned out. Well, that's not even an option. No, nobody discusses that option. That was supposed to be an option. It was it was clearly said or, or a weekly test.
What this was, was a nudge for a corporation to go ahead and do what the corporation's want to do. You bet and they got covered from the politicians. Now all this is right. But I don't I'm not so sure that the corporations wanted to do this. I'll disagree there. I believe they, too are under pressure. And they are under pressure from and I'm 100% convinced this is true. From the environmental social governance. That is the only score that matters. It doesn't even matter
if you're making profits these days. Yeah, yeah, it's this factor in that part, because it makes you wonder why is weekly testing and a mask, not the option to go for most people, unless this a you guys are right on top of each other, you might need to get the vaccine, that kind of thing. But know what they're saying is, you will be not even fired. They're not even firing people. No, no, that's the worst part. They don't want to fire people
because I'm not quite sure how the mechanism works. But I believe if someone if you fire someone and they claim unemployment, does the company pay for some of that? Or the employment insurance pays for it? Yes, yes, they should. Yes. And we're gonna get in touch on that a little later. But that's how it normally works. If you are
let go by the company. And it's not something that you brought on like being late or that kind of stuff like that, even in those cases, me being in that position, I have to let people go before it's like, well, you know what, we did fire the guy, Let's not mess it with unemployment. That's kind of unless you're just a complete eight hole, you know, and then it's like, oh, well, well, so Mr. Brown. So the definition of being an eight hole, I'm just saying, let's say
Joe Katz didn't want to accept the vaccine into his life. And his company said, Well, you know, we're going to give you until next week, and then you better start because after that, we're going to keep you at home without pay or we will keep you on board with no pay for two months. Which implies you can think about it while you're while you have no income. Well, you can do something else, which means you would leave
and the timing of it right before Christmas. Of course Christmas baby this is yeah, this is the most fun time because your family comes over it's like what you've been doing. I just been sitting here quasi unemployed. I laugh about it because gallows humor is wow, like they are really taking me here. And that makes me look at them like wow, like y'all really want to say get here, huh? Can I ask you a question which may pop up later in the show? I
was our a and you don't have the answer. It's a rhetorical question. But all things considered. If you are on welfare. should there not be a vaccination mandate for you as well, if we're just going to be completely fair about everything or step by step? I knew I knew I knew I was taking. Put them on. No, no, I'm saying, no, not, I'm saying the rollout. Like, that's why they won't mandate the booster ship. Oh, I see what you're saying step by step.
You don't want too many people all at once, right? The workers first, right? So they better they better hurry up because people are saying this to me is like, Hey, how come they don't have to get this? And they're getting free money and we're starving. And then we paid all the taxes and we're screwed. What about illegal immigrants is coming across the border? I mean, don't get me started on that. Yeah, of course. But well, we're gonna, we're gonna need we're gonna need some people who
have replacement hearts for all this myocarditis. So you might as well get the illegals in here. They'll get jammed up to it's gonna escape it. If we continue. All right, we're going. So I think that was the last clip was five, we're going to six. So we're post Halloween, we're heading into Thanksgiving and
Christmas and New Years. Last year, the advice was to really minimize the amount of gathering we were doing now we have a certain percentage of the population that's vaccinated, do you think that there will be a holiday surge that's less severe than last year because of that, you know, it's hard to say Zerlina, we'll have to see. And, you know, a lot of it's going to be up to individuals, if you plan on having a celebration indoors, for Thanksgiving, or for the
winter holidays, Christmas and Hanukkah and so on. I here's what we would do. And what we are going to do is we're gonna tell potential guests, and we're not gonna have a whole lot of them that you have to be vaccinated in order to come to the house here. And I think the more people that demand that very basic requirement that you get vaccinated before you come to an indoor gathering, the better off we're going to be. And those will be more incentives, I think, for people to
get vaccinated incentives. Yeah, let's press you through your family. I have. We have friends now. Because you know, we're out here in Hill Country. And there's people in Austin and there's friends of ours, we actually hadn't spoken to for quite a while. And now they're like, holy crap, we just woke up what's going on? And they are now in a horrible position,
where this is literally taking place to them. Can't Go Home, Grandma, you know, no one can see grandma unless we're all vaccinated, and they're just calling and pressuring these people all day long. It's the family structure. That is what is being ripped apart by this. It's real. That's that's the that's my biggest beef. And honestly, that was my thing about the Civil War kind of thing. Yeah, I don't gonna get a kinetic shooting war now brother
against brother. Yeah. That's That's Biblical. That's Biblical. So let me get this straight. You want to let a guy go? Then he for the holidays, he can't see his family. He don't have any money around the holidays, the binding thing for his kids. And you think he's gonna be okay with it? Yeah, no, he's nice. He's gonna be very okay with that. And as we know, people take it to different levels. Yeah, I'm not I'm not I propose. I'm saying this as a PSA. Let's just
think about this for a minute. Let's just think about this for a minute, because it's a perfect storm brewing for people to either harm themselves or harm other people more harm other people before harm themselves. Yeah. Oh, yeah. I talked to people. And this and then you even get in a stickier situation. Like I said, Why didn't he say, Well, you need to have the shot and the boosters come to Christmas. Right. I mean, that's, that's my problem with this whole situation. Is
this middle of the road kind of thing? Like yeah, you can get the shots but you don't really need your boosters. You can come to Christmas. If you got your original shots that you may have taken over a year ago, right. That's fine. Yeah. But if you don't have a if you had COVID have anybody's you can't come to Christmas. Set the clear guidelines say you got to have shots boosters, you're saying to mask and we test you at the
door. At least that's logical. Yeah. At least that's logical in one of the logical thing is and this is what I tell my friends I said, Okay, really logically. You can even tell Your family this CDC guidelines say, even if you're vaccinated, you can you can spread the virus. So that means that you can also get it and someone else can get it. So why don't we why don't I just get tested? And then you'll know for sure that I'm okay vaccinated or not tested. No one can argue that logic, they will.
But if it appears on what paradigm you have, if you're sick me you're sick. And I want to get into this next clip. Next set of clips. This is your boy, Ari, from our MSNBC. I've got the hip hop, the hip hop expert. Yes. All right. I don't know that guy's name offhand. He's gonna say in the next set of clips. Uh huh. But I want you to look up his picture, I didn't have time to get the picture. Or you get started by the clip title on YouTube and see see this guy. I'm not saying
he's a lizard. But if I was gonna say what our humanoid lizard will look like, it could possibly look like this guy earning a big legal development, the White House cheering what it calls good news. And the Supreme Court as Biden pushes this partial vaccine mandate that the Biden administration mandate has not hit the high court yet. But a strict state mandate survived a crucial test the Supreme Court leaving in place, a vaccine mandate for healthcare workers, five justices voting that way,
including to Trump appointees. The court already left in place mandated educational institutions. So taken together, the headline here is it is hard to overturn COVID vaccine requirements. And courts have upheld them for a century of all kinds of vaccines. Now, there can be limits when it comes, for example, to religious exceptions and how courts want to require that. Meanwhile, the Biden administration set to publish
details and a mandate rule in writing this week. That plan allows a major exception, allowing basically everyone who was affected by it to choose testing instead of vaccination if they want. Still Republicans 11 states suing Biden over it. And the President has told Republicans have at it, because he says he'll win these challenges, these brand new court signals that I'm telling you about? Well, they're definitely on his side. The Supreme Court has yet to hear a
full case on this. But everything that we're learning, including that new ruling from Maine suggests they're okay with it. So did you see that guy that's unclear? If not, I just want to point out this is before the recent this was like maybe a little less than a week ago, but before the you know, the halting of the of the current mandate. So MSNBC is out doing their propaganda and propaganda, saying the title of the YouTube videos winning biting Vax mandate gets shot in the arm from Scouters.
Yeah, I thought I was gonna hear the name in the in the clip. I did. I'm looking I'm looking at it up now. I want to see it not now. I have to see this. Whatever it is. I gotta see it. Okay, he's got more teeth. Well go ahead. No, he's a scary looking guy. That's all I gotta say. And I want you to listen to the male you that he uses or that he speaks with? Or he may Ah, yes. Okay, this guy. What is his name? Hold on a sec. Is he is it in the clip? Yeah. Oh, no, no, no, this guy. He is the lizard
king. Definitely. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, he was suck his tongue out. I just saw him go. Like a lizard does. You see all those teeth? Oh, key. Oh my goodness. He's been chomping on some rats or stuff for lunch around sharks a Komodo dragon? Yeah, that's it. Okay. All right. I'll put that in the show notes so people can enjoy that. It's not only his look, but listen to his logic number eight. You've worked with who and really know these issues around
the world? What's your global perspective here on how the US uses these powers compared to other places? Because we've heard the arguments of oh, maybe this is extreme or government overreach. And yet, most of the mandates have exceptions. The Bible is a big one, as mentioned, and the United States has tried to strike a balance with liberty and vaccination for some time. Yeah, I mean, you know, from an ethical point of view, let's
just start with that. You know, everyone has the right to, you know, the sanctity of their own body, of course, but nobody has the right to expose another person to a dangerous infectious disease. You don't have the right to go into a crowded workspace unmasked and unvaccinated because you would cause harm to others. A lot of other countries around The worlds have mandates of one form or another. Ours tends to focus on schools and on work. Others you know, you can't go to a shop
you can't go to a museum. You can't go on an airplane. You can't get across on in France unless you're vaccinated and so around the world it's a croissant. Okay. International stuff. Go ahead. Well, yeah, I mean from from the UK, so it's not quite France. guy had like his whole quick chocolate croissant stuck in his front teeth. He sounds like Fauci doesn't he? does? He does Yeah, he just got me across all boys, a croissant, then you've been hanging out with Pierre in in Paris too much.
And he got kind of hurt our American, how dare you America. He He's, he's beating the British accent. Cuz it's not very detectable. Right. But this is one of those things that you brought up. And once you brought it up, I can't unsee it when all these bricks come from to start telling Americans how to live. Right? Well, the way the no agenda showed deconstructed it is that when it's something that needs to be communicated, that's official, Americans like hearing that from a British voice it
comes across more authoritative. And also I'm just like the rest of the M five M. Most of these people are spies. And a lot of these Brits are EMI six or EMI five, whichever one that GCHQ they're they're you know, they are assets and they're out to communicate something and no one ever questions. These various British okay, I find I guess this is official there. You go a different time over there, you know, but he's five hours. He's five hours later.
On that weird they come over here and they start dictating and telling us what American freedoms are? And oh, yeah. Like free honestly. Like you're all people. You're the last people that could tell us about freedom. I thought that was over 200 years ago. Yeah. It's just, it's I find it fascinating that the, like, you say, it's the lead ism is you're dumb, you're ignorant, you don't know what you're talking about believe our sides believe what we're saying. And I'm just gonna put it on
table. At the end of the day, I or anybody else doesn't have to tell anybody why we don't want to do anything. So I think we've we've jumped the shark on that one. Having that spine ourselves. Do you want a shot now? Why? Because it's so yeah, well, it's it's even worse. I mean, I get emails every day from people who want to claim a religious exemption, and it's gone so far, when you see the quiet it's it's templatized. By now, it's kind of the same thing. But first of
all, it's sincerely held religious belief. So you have to attest that this is a sincerely held religious belief that right there that language itself is unconstitutional. If you're saying, Well, you know, basically, you need to prove that that you're really sincere about your religion. No, no, that is God's phrase prove anything. Nothing. No, no. And people need to stop there. Stop. No, I don't have to prove that. But we've tried to go along to get along.
Yeah, that's the American way. We all we always try to be nice people. We try to be friendly and neighborly, and we're being taken advantage of. But not but but he said but we're not brought up but he said oh yeah, your entire to the st. Missy or your body. But no, there's no but after that. Now, no, this should not be No. But that just goes to show you how far we've gotten away from the narrative of if I don't want something, I don't want to have
to have it. And I find it fascinating how it flies in the face of the liberal thinking of respectability politics, and doing what's expected of you. Yeah, that that was the thing like why he you shouldn't have to, you know, call me hair, you know, because that's what people expect you to do. Well, I guess I do. Again, going back to the original lie. The reason why this is this is an instant people just forget is because this, this fake false lie this narrative that you can spread it
if you don't have symptoms. So then the logical conclusion is you need to take the vaccine to protect others except you and that's not true. And that's why this confusion gets there. Because the people who are all in on this And don't understand because they're in hypnosis. They don't see that what they say what they are saying is ridiculous. You should not have to explain anything, because that should only be your choice, because you will not harm anyone.
Could you imagine this? Let's take it away from COVID. Let's take it away from that. Let's say somebody was going through a sex change, and they want to access to the proper bathroom with their chosen gender. And they said, well, before you can do that, yeah, let's see this document to see like, are you top and bottom? Is this kind of like a certain thing you do? Just do on the weekends? Like, how trans Are you? Are you sincerely trans? Yes, imagine there you go. That's a great analogy.
Imagine how that will go over Manaus? What kind of believe are you? What about trans people don't kill other people? Oh, I am just saying, No. Of course, I understand what you're saying. It's just a fascinating house. Like, that's why their side doesn't have any logic. Because logic is I can plug this play plug and play it in anywhere. And it will still make sense. Yeah, no, this is you're trying to corner people. Starting with the believers, I believe, starting with the people that
still want to work in this country. Um, because you see, a lot of people just checked out, it's like, garbage. out his table. Unemployment, he was given it and I don't have to worry about you taking it from me because I never went to work. And he's like, let's just kick the people. But I think is a reason behind it. I'll get to it in a little bit while they're doing this. But let's hear more than lizard king,
you have the right to doubt yourself and gasoline. But the police and the courts aren't going to be okay with you doing that. And then running around a place where people are smoking and hugging everyone. In other words, your own body. Stop, stop. There it is. I want to dissect this analogy. Because I think it's very telling and maybe the truth wants to come out the way he prefaced who has the gasoline on him? Yeah. And who actually had the fire? Okay, I want to hear it one more time.
Yeah, please, you have the right to douse yourself in gasoline. But the police and the courts aren't going to be okay with you doing that. And then running around a place where people are smoking and hugging everyone. In other words, your own body, it could be literally on your body. But as it starts to touch, get close to other people's bodies. There are public safety elements. I do want to say.
So are you saying that people that got their cigarettes in the fire being that people will set me on fire? Yeah, yeah, because you are stupid. You douse yourself in gasoline. No, but let's think about that for me. I know exactly what you're saying. Gasoline is harmless. Without fire. Yeah, I mean, me. Of course, if you inhale it, it can kill you. But I'm just saying if you just pour it on your clothes. It's pretty harmless. Yeah, but if I go around the smokers,
oh, that's this the vaxxers. If you've been Vax, you're a smoker. Right? Yeah. The the analogy backfires. It does. And that is possibly true, too. If you look at the the the shedding and all that stuff. That is a major concern of mine. But I'm just saying that the way he formulated that it's like, Do you not realize you're not helping your case? No, I'm no. No, he does not. He does not. Stay away from it with your cigarette. Keep your fire away from me.
I'm covered in gas. Yeah, good point. Like, we will continue to get to the rest of the clip. I just want to like, push back on the religious point. Just so we understand it here because justice Gorsuch, I want to say justice Gorsuch wrote about this, in the dissent to this. So this is the current losing side, although it may ultimately go back to the court and he says healthcare workers who've served on the frontlines of a pandemic for the last 18 months are now being fired for
adhering to their religious beliefs. What do you say to him and those workers if he makes the argument that if they have a genuine good faith, religious belief, they ought to be able to adhere to it and continue to provide health care. You know, health care workers are there to protect their patients to save their patients lives. And also we want to save
their lives. And so if you have a healthcare worker that's unvaccinated, he or she can transmit the infection to their fellow healthcare worker, they can transmit it to a patient, you know, and I wrote an article for Jama that you The American Medical Association talking about a wider freedom FDR talked about that. The whole idea is that, you know, yes, you have a freedom over your own body but you don't have a freedom to in that, that harms other people.
Okay, he stumbled a little bit on this bullcrap. Yeah. You have the freedom but you don't have this Zarm Yeah, okay. He couldn't even get it out. Like you have the freedom but you don't. You know? This is this is they? They don't have the common sense on their side. No, this is the reason for the propaganda. Even the title of this video winning biting Vax mandate get shot in the arm from SCOTUS. What in that knows clips tells you they got a shot in the arm. He is pure. We want to
control the public narrative. That's all. Well, it's also it's just pathetic, new stuff. That's, that's that's how, how new they always think in puns. Yeah, give the person but I'm just saying that you would think that the is there. I have an ironclad case that the SCOTUS is going to hold now I don't have any faith in the Supreme Court. No, I don't. And it's sad to say that yeah. Well, I mean, we
every time we need to know when we got screwed. I mean, so is I'm not just speaking from my perspective of every time you think they're gonna stop something neat, I think needs to be stopped now. Um, but I'll say this. Their legacy is on the line. And I think that's what they care about most is their legacy. Yeah, the ones the ones who were who know what's going on? Do you want to be the one that opens this Pandora's box similar to how AIDS HIV opened a Pandora's box for the testing of
medication or the lack of testing of medication? Do this SCOTUS want to be the ones that say oh, yeah, you don't have your have any rights to your body? That's well, reason why I'm gonna just be be honest with you. The reason why I don't want to have hope is I don't want to get kicked in the nuts later by having hope. Okay, and not notice a bad reason. Yeah. Well,
I have studied this. I have studied the Supreme Court decisions on this going back to the original which many people use as In fact, I disagree seldomly with Alan Dershowitz, but I do on this one case. And I've had other professors look at this professors of constitutional law. At the back in the, in the, in the old old pandemic days, there was a guy who said, No, I'm not going to take this vaccination. And it went to the state's court and it went ultimately all the way.
This and another case went all the way to the Supreme Court. And the answer was that the way the way it's explained usually today is an absolutely the the state had that right. But it's not that he lost his case. And then they tied him to a to a gurney and jabbed him. No, they find him. Because that was the only thing that really saved this case, is there was no repercussions. And there's no fines for not taking it from the government and not talking about, you know, not having not
being able to eat because you lost your job. And also, there were no restrictions of people who didn't have it and not walking around on the street. So you can see where that's a huge restriction. And they've done a little bit of that the masking has changed some of that. But it's more a talking point to say Supreme Court absolutely can can rule that you need to can enforce a mandate, but not with the physical insertion of the needle, only with a penalty. Now the penalty could be super
severe. But not cannot they cannot sink a needle into your arm. Okay, that's comforting. Yeah, now you may fry but okay, you know, at least there's no needle in your arm. Let me elaborate. He says it's funny man. More facts. Let me speak on to the kicking the knives that I want to avoid, because I think they do have leverage when I say hey, the Democrats in the ruling elite One World Government globalist is one thing that's not been talked about since Biden's me in
office. That was a hot topic during election. Flooding the courts? Pat. Yeah. Of course. Yeah. Packing the courts. I think that will be a possibility. If the court doesn't give them what they want. You gave us no choice. We tried to work with you not to patent courts. But in this matter in life and death, you didn't act the right way. So now, and it could be a win win. I mean, I'm just doing a political calculus on news. It's like, you know, what, we always
wanted to pack the court anyway. Yeah. Um, do it. Right. So but so the first I'd have to see indication the court will rule against mandates before they start packing the court. That's that's, you know, that's, that's a reasonable assertion. I like it. Actually. The MS deaths? Cuz I haven't heard packing the court since then. Yes. It's been it's been a bit. Yeah. Well, they still want to. And then this might be the catalyst for them to say, Yeah,
we know, we know what the scope is going to do. But we already have our counter move lined up to get what we want to have anyway, for other reasons. It's, the only thing is a little difficult right now, because you still have to ascend a judge through confirmation. And that's going to be contentious. Because that's the Senate is not easy. But yeah, your point is, is valid. So this guy with the nuclear option, if they if they I'm sorry to interrupt, if they
blow the filibuster, you have to blow the filibuster. So you can confirm the the judges you want on the courts. That's how it would work. And they might not even be able to pat the court. But the conversation changes to this. Is this this? Is our battle cry for 2022. Yes, yes, yes, yes. Wow. Which is all about politics, and winning elections. So I like Luther King brought up FDR. So he talked about the freedoms that FDR spoke about. So I went
and did some research on FDR and four freedoms. And I have two clips on first being number 10. You and I have seen event follow event, each and every one of them a shock, a shock to our hopes for the peaceful development of modern civilization, as we know it.
FDR soon told Americans that they should be wary of the four fears tent the fear of not being able to worship freely, the fear of losing freedom of expression, the fear of military arms, and the fear that the war would damage free commerce among nations that have been cruelly invaded. But now it was New Year's Day 1941. And it was time to look forward. Within the White House, President Roosevelt and his advisors were preparing
for the annual message to Congress. And suddenly FDR leaned back in his chair, in a moment, he would ask his secretary to take down an idea for a new finale to the upcoming speech. It would not be for fears, but for freedoms. As he was sitting there, he was thinking about the imperative of coming up with a set of words that would lift the speech beyond the idea that we have reason to fear the Axis powers, we have reason to believe and reason to hope that we can make
a difference. So he articulates sitting in a chair at his desk with his speech writers actually articulates right out of his head. This word freedom of speech and expression, freedom of worship, freedom from want and freedom from fear Yeah, yeah, he's the one that said all we have to fear is fear itself. Yeah, he also don't want to create the UN so I don't want to give them too many. Don't give too much kudos there. But that's a nice little list.
You know, speech was the second one, worship, worship want. I like that fear of right and want us nice. And if freedom isn't fear, yeah, yeah. Yeah, the two best the two parties we have now the Freedom Party in the fear party. You're right. This is it. And it's amazing that the guy that just spoke brought him up to say that oh, Roosevelt spoke about these freedoms, but a nice freedoms. I think this just the ideology.
And you know, just what he's talking points where we lean towards more the people that are on the side, hey, I have a right to first of all, say I don't want it to actually speak from my mouth, which I think a lot of people are closeted right now. Yeah, I'm just hoping that that card is not pulled a pun intended and not attended was I said it sounded kind of cool. I
know. You know what your Bhaskara cool to see. Yeah, you're missing you talk to get game but you're actually not backed or to say you got the best of actual to be able to say freedom to express yourself because I don't want to is dumb expressing myself and may you know different a freedom to what was the other two? It was no the last speech worship want and fear want. I want a job. Yeah, I want to work. Yeah. I'm just me personally, I've been working since I've been 15 years old. I
interrupted maybe, what, six months? After what was it 2003 2002 Without just working on jobs and you know, get to a place where McDonald's won't hire you. Yeah. Yeah, you don't have enough experience to get the job that you want. So I've been in that spot. So we're talking about putting Americans that went to work every day that you know, paid into the system, not get rid of them. And you bring up these four thing you
bring up? Roosevelt freedom. Yeah, I think I understand where how he uses Roseville, because Roosevelt has a lot of communist ideas. Ask I put them in there. Not so totally. He brought in huge welfare state. Yeah, the green new deal deal, the green New Deal. He brought in Social Security, a lot of these things, which they kind of make sense. But I think I always make this point because I'm not
a socialist by any means that by any means. But I do think America should have a strong social safety net to spring people back into work. Sure. Like, you know, you gotta work. Let's not give you like a, you know, a little, little piece of crumbs. And is that you linger for years and years and years on welfare? How about we give you a nice sum of money up front. And if you don't do right, by that you're on your own. Instead of like breaking off these little pieces and give it to you where
you never can get yourself going again. So I'm almost I'm which I think that's created by design. For it to be that way when you get trapped into poverty, and people can politic on your behalf, right? For their game. So those are the four freedoms by FDR Yeah, like that. I've never actually heard those. I appreciate you. Yeah, diving into that. And they were to counter to the four fears What are four fears now COVID Climate nationalism, you know, we are we need to be
you know, global, we need to be global. It's all there. We don't need have borders. And then I don't know what the few consider maybe the forefront of maybe the economy. Inflation. When you look at that you no wonder that would that would be under want under want would be inflation reduction of buying power. Right. So we were right back at where we are there with we're facing knees, global fears. And but instead of No, totalitarian
madman like Hitler, we have a undetectable disease. Yeah. And what I mean by undetectable I'm not talking about the PCR test I'm talking about you can't see who hasn't who doesn't have it, right. By by the point you made about the asymptomatic spread, I see is Yeah, is anybody can have it. You mean it can be Yeah, you've completely made people afraid. Afraid of cooties. Right? So circle dot.so. Let's see, let's get into the second part of four freedoms.
founded upon a central his freedom of speech, and expression, were in the world. The second is freedom of every person to worship God in his own way, everywhere in the world. With Freedom from the one which translated into word means economic understanding which will secure to everyday healthy peacetime life for its inhabitants everywhere in the
world. The fourth is freedom from fear which translated in the world means a world wide web to such a point and in such a thorough fashion that no nation in a position to permit an acts of physical acts against nama anywhere in the world, you know, they really should have turned FDR on the stream yard back in the day, man, his his audio sucks.
Which you know, to find? Yeah, he him using radio and harnessing what was Magic Man, that was that was the shit that that he and I always talk about these the new technologies and how people harness them for their, you know, for their benefit. Mm hmm. We have Obama, he was kind of like the internet. President. Well, yeah, that's what they said. Sure. The difference? I mean, it's a different because everybody talked about that. His mailing list, his mailing list, you
know, that kind of thing. Yeah. He really caught on using the internet. Now. Trump, he's a social media. Yeah. Which is we had to separate those two, then you go back to television, that will be JFK? Because yes, that was a huge reason why he beat Nixon Yeah. Because the way he actually understood optics, in,
you know, how you look on television. And going back to FDR, he harnessed the power of the radio, where people would sit around and listen to his speeches on the radio, um, and it would kind of soothe them and calm them in the times that we're going crazy. So that's the that's the four freedoms. And I just like I said, I found it funny that he invoked our FDR, but I think he's thinking more of the globalist. Oh, absolutely. Yeah, that's exactly. That's exactly what
people forget. You know, they forget all the good ones. That's for every president, there's always been good and bad things and the things that get taken forward throughout time and are then highlighted, and of course, determine what everyone thinks the guy was. Yeah, I mean, we saw that with Johns Hopkins. Johns Hopkins, doesn't necessarily mean what they stand for today, right? Yeah, they hijacked these names. And I just want to make one point before we move on. We've talked about the shadow
presidency that I think is going on. I don't know where you stand on it. But could it be that Barry Oh, sees yourself as FDR? Oh, I think he saw himself as FDR when he was 10 years old. Absolutely. The long reign the lone reign of, um, he had his eight years now he, from my perspective, well, did you see him in four years? Did you see him at COP? 26? Did you see his his pompous ass up there? And the way he was orating? I didn't see that. Oh,
yeah, totally. That's why I can say so I don't have to think about it. He's put he's doing an FDR thing right now on the world stage. So we got the we got we got the fears in place like FDR had in place. Now here comes the I think they can't get a great new deal. And right now, like a huge thing. So it's like, let's get it piecemeal. And that's where you see these huge bills, the infrastructure bill, other things, trillions of dollars
just being handed out all over the place. And I think UBI as part of that, as well, I didn't go there that in this episode. But getting people comfortable with being being home. Oh, I'm all in on that. A couple of things, getting people comfortable with being at home, getting people comfortable with no physical cash, these these types of things. That's the kind of stuff that I think, is the stuff we haven't really even gotten to discuss, but it's just there.
It's happening. I just think I think the long term picture may look at it like a will. Even if we had to take a step back, which they had to take a step backward Trumps for years. We still move forward. Right? We'll get by the hand and then hopefully Comala game she'll do Ah, he's just gonna do what his daddy Bush the bush? Yes. No, I know. We know, we know the bloodlines, we did that episode. He is finally like I say every time it's amazing how they're
just magnetic to each other. Now, it's crazy. This is just I'm going to go on a brief tangent, but every time I see it boils my blood to see a person campaign and this person's a war criminal. And then you you're pounding around with them, you know, X amount of years later, like, everything's cool. Yeah, not don't work that way. What that just goes to show you that that's what I bring that up to say. That's why the public are like, we don't care what y'all talking about. Because y'all
don't really mean it. Yeah, I think we got to the point now, where the public don't believe none of this. Now you have your 30%. And you're talking about this buy into whatever the mainstream media tells them. And they're going to go that way. But a lot of people just like, it's all BS anyway. Well, again, it's it's 30% 30% or 100% 30%, or 100%, all in 30% or 0%. All in and then there's 40% in the middle, which is just going with the with the initial 30%. But you know, that's where
that's where we chip away. They rockin with the winners. I would hope so. I would hope so. I'm looking to see what's out there. 30% is winning. In a run up on it. They don't really have a stance that 40% It's like well, which 30% is winning? And we'll throw our weight behind that because Yeah, good point. So we stopped I think 11 Let's go ahead and get into 12. This is Biden's vaccine mandates for companies temporarily halted.
Meanwhile, the Biden administration's federal vaccine mandate for companies with at least 100 employees was temporarily blocked by a federal appeals court on Saturday. A three judge panel on on the New Orleans based fifth US Circuit Circuit Court of Appeals said the new rules raised quote grave statutory and constitutional issues. The court gave the Justice Department until 5pm today to respond to the lawsuit
filed by GOP led states and businesses. This comes as more than 15 states have filed lawsuits against the administration over its federal Max vaccine mandate for companies. But White House Chief of Staff Ron Klain says he is certain the mandate will still stand. I'm quite confident that when this finally gets fully adjudicated not just a temporary order, the validity of this
requirement will be upheld. It's common sense, Chuck, if OSHA can tell people to wear hot hard hat on the job to be careful on chemicals, it can put in place these simple measures to keep our workers safe. Alright, let's begin right now state attorney for Palm Beach County Deveron. Bergen, former prosecutor, Charles Coleman, Charles, you know, people look at this ruling. They may see the headlines he Oh my gosh, this is a huge setback for the Biden
administration. But we we need to put some context here, huh? Sure. I mean, I can't believe you watch morning, Joe. That's so harsh. I mean, you should get danger pay for that alone. I have to go with stories. But with you heard what he said if you read the headlines, and that's why I made a big deal about the previous headline winning by the VAX mandate gets winning. Like he's already won, right winning Biden backs
mandate gets shot in the arm from SCOTUS. Now, days later become with this headline, Biden's vaccine mandate for companies temporarily halted for federal appeals. Yeah. How does that work? Because what people do is they read the headlines and they might watch the first minute of the video and then my oh send it out like oh was halted or is shutting on was winning, then and they're fighting for that 40% That you highlight it to see which way they can get them to swing? Yeah, headlines will
do it because most people only read headlines pass it on. And even if they do click on it, it's usually a paywall. They never get to the story. Right, they leave just enough above the paywall. Yeah, to get the important information to get the truth get the truth. First, the facts are always up top people don't want to pay me. We got you. You read what you were you read what we wanted you to read? Yep. Um, so let's talk Virginia
for a minute. Count me you had a chance to talk Virginia. Okay, Virginia had a lot to do with this whole whip states, red states, putting their big boy pants on and saying Hold up. The people might be don't want this, oh, it was a huge shot in the butt for and you say red states because it was a political boost. And all politics I've learned now, I
mean, President United States. There you go. The President went there, the vice president went there, the former President Obama went there, everybody was there, everybody was doing everything they could to pull this Jumoke over the finish line, and they couldn't do it. Because local rules and when the and you don't need a whole nation, you just get it. You know, as long as you can organize this case, it would
look to be parents, and parents were bringing it together. And now that's the blueprint or as you say, you know, flip on the Xerox, let's go. And even the democratic media Democrat infused media was saying, Oh, now now the Republicans have have a have a blueprint. So I'll say yeah, that's totally good. But I don't give Republicans any break. Screw them that just as bad as the rest, they see political gain. Now they get into action. Oh, and this whole CRT thing. I didn't make mention of this
aspect of it. But CRT or combating CRT was a Trojan horse or the beta run for these Vax mandates and mass mandates agree, see, they they couldn't come in, they're saying, Oh, we're anti mass, we're anti vaccine, not gonna vet our kids. So it's like, you're not going to teach my kids critical race theory, you know, and everything. And that's the ownership of the keys. And the ownership of the kids was the key argument. Who owns the keys to the state owned them? Right?
We can chaton or there's a parent owner? Yes, yes. Yes. And I use critical race theory as the proxy argument. It was really about those masking. And you notice that's why the approval, waited to after the election after the election. Yes. Not just the the know, the, uh, I believe Pfizer even held back on saying that they had a viable candidate until after the election. It was that disgusting. So I go, we can hold on for a couple weeks. Who cares? You know, see what no
unnecessary deaths here? Yeah, no unnecessary deaths here. But okay. But yeah, Virginia was a battleground state in a sense of, you know, what, it's a middle ground state. The reason why the way it's constructed, you have a lot of rural areas all over and you have this large population bubble right at the top of the state. I Jason, I know you're Maryland. I know you didn't get me DC and Maryland. I know you didn't vote in the previous election. I was
just curious if you live in the area. Did you vote in this Virginia election? I did not. But I'll show you this. You're consistent. Did you go to a school board meeting? I did not. Okay. The reason why I didn't I took my kids out of school. Yes. You did one better. Yeah, I don't get what I want for my money. I'm not gonna, my thing is this. I didn't want to have to put my kids in and had to take them out. Once they were saying this decision to me, I
kind of read the tea leaves. I've been preparing for being getting mandated. Um, because I can read tea leaves. Um, so it's, it's not out of just like, oh, apathy to say, oh, no, and nothing's gonna change. No, this is what more parents need to do. Oh, totally. Not not like I know a lot can't. And this is why we
had the conversation about hybrid. I think if communities work together, I can get out this day, I'll run school, you get off that day, you run school, but you'll have to be a collective of people and neighborhoods and communities to have each other's backs. Because a lot of people both parents have to work. Luckily, I've been working from home. And my wife, she hasn't worked because she worked in the healthcare field. So it's like, we're not gonna put you in undue risk. We'll
just go without this kind of thing. Right? Now we just we just go it out. No vacations, no, whatever, but you're not going to work. Um, no. And that's, that's, this is what's gonna have to happen to and I'm speaking to my people that the pro choice people which choice comes responsibility. You're big on this, Adam. If you don't like social media, build your own. That's right. If you don't like whatever build your own. This is where we're gonna have to be from our pro choice people.
Because we do live in a capitalistic society if my job is if my job said You know what? You don't want to get a job, you're fired. Fine. That's your choice as a as a business, right as a bit your your capital, we live in a capitalist society fine. But when you get in this Cabal, and it can't do this price fixing kind of thing, like, none of us are going to hire anybody that's not bad, right? That's the problem I have with it. No, because I want our people to compete. I want the
guy to third or fourth in competition. So you know what, let me get some of those bad guys. Let me let me cherry pick off but that's business that's capitalism. But as you say, a lot of companies account talent to the government. And it's the circular thing, like who runs
the country, it's not even the government. It's, it's, it's really the it's the big hedge funds, investment firms, pension funds, all run under this, this, it's called ESG investing, it's a super real thing and, and, you know, down the road, we're gonna see that all of this kind of ties in it all ties in the back of mat, mandatory vaccinations, creating more data, data about people, particularly health data, moving that more towards
climate change. You know, this is not stopping this is you know, everyone who was compliant now will be compliant for the climate lockdowns which will come and I think it'll come in the one thing they learned from this whole experience is keeping those numbers up on the screen on the right, you know, right fifth of the screen. How many dead? You know, why not just have a count of their climate deaths today?
Well, this is where I have faith in people. When they start limiting how many times you can charge your phone in a day, huh? When those kind of things? No, but it won't. It won't be that it won't be that it's going to be you should not have any more real beef this month, you've already used up too much carbon from cow farts, you need to have some, some 3d printed beef. That's how it's gonna happen. Even then, I don't think the young people are gonna go I think, and
I think a lot. But this is I believe that the young people are looking around there in that 40% to say which side is the popular thing to say until it impacts them? Yeah, yes. You tell them they can't have any more Chick fil A. Right? You tell them they can't have any more Starbucks. If you can't, all these products. No. Hold on, hold on. No. Yeah, the Starbucks and the Chick fil A will be continued to be encouraged. They will not No,
no, no, that will be encouraged. That's all process. That's all crap. That's part of the system. Now I'm talking about some some real food. When you have the, you know, the I think the young people have a better understanding of food and older people. We'll see. We'll see. I have, I believe I believe that. I truly believe that. But I have faith in the older millennials. I think they're there and that 40% A lot of them you know 25 to 30 really haven't hit home yet.
For me, but you don't want you when it hit me right but when it hits home, people got to be aware. I hope it's not too late. Because now we can still stop it. It's now we can still stop it. It's never too late. I believe that I think that's why and you know what tells me that if the way they're excuse my language pussyfooting around it. Well, they got the juice. Yeah, you know, you do it. Yeah. Now, if they had the juice, if they had the juice, they wouldn't need all the propaganda that's
obvious. They're not done at all. That's not they are not done for by a longshot. But the marketing, the marketing is there and the marketing is going to continue to spin up. And I don't even think they have the funding for that yet. It let me let me tell you why MC I don't think we ever discussed it. Right. And I make make it quick. There's only two groups of people. There's no more people group, more people is good for business, or less people is good for business.
That's the only two groups it is yes. Well, the elites, the less people is good for business. They have chosen to have if you listen to cop 26 And I watched a lot of the sessions. The whole idea is this climate change all these trillions of dollars that's going to come from commercial companies, you see, but the old money and see this is where I get to the point of more cars, more gas, more people, more children. That's been our business model. That has been our business model since the
beginning of time. Now you come with this not you But the last people party, come and say, you know, what if we kill off everybody? Um, now it's crazy. Now hear me out. And I'm not you blissed out here selling it. I know it sounds crazy. But we can have more with less, more with less. And the money sitting around like, that sounds good. But we've done business like this for 300 400 500 years more babies, more people, more gas, more cars, more tires more, you know, and that's the way we've
done business. And I think they're doing their sales pitch right now to say, trust me, that people will be good. And it's really the big money. They're sitting back saying, Hmm, well, let's see. Make your proposal. And they're not convinced. I don't like I said, if it was if they were convinced, we'll all be cooked. The reason I'll be Australia right now. Yes. So it will be possible for a long time, the reason why I'm not so bullish as you are, is because the ESG investing goes
anti bottom line, it is not about making more profit. And it is a thing, and it has been shoved into the public markets mainly as an attack. And all these CEOs and all these companies, no. And of course, if you look at the just look at any news story, you cannot as a as a pension fund as an endowment at any kind of investment firm, with partners or constituents, you cannot invest in Exxon Mobil, it is not allowed because
of the ESG investing rules. Even though even though right now, you know, you'd be making bank because the price of oil almost doubled in 24 months, you cannot invest in them. So, so that has been our business, and I'm totally with you on that. But this woke paradigm has taken over Wall Street, and people are just going along with it. And half the people I know people on boards, I'm like, What are you guys doing? to No, no, no. ESG is real. We have all these different things. And Blackrock
has nothing to do with it. I send them three articles like holy crap. Oh, that's interesting. You made my point you made the point I was trying to get to their showing numbers by look at this graph and look at this algorithm is saying this is good. And it's not profit. Yes. Wow. But they're not showing profit.
They're not showing it in the same way. They're saying, this is the market we will create which will be you know, renewable, so called, you know, solar panels when whatever electricity, wires, all these different things, but they are forcing, forcing commercial companies to make these investments, I believe against their better judgment. That's my point. That's, that's you got to the point I'm making is against their better judgment. Okay. And it's a it's
a very fragile situation right now. Because what if people say, you know, what, screw it. Screw it. I mean, just screw all of it. Um, well, that's positive money. That's pasta. All money's gonna say, Well, wait, hold on here. Hold on, hear me. And we saw a glimpse of this a blip of this with Trump in office. It was like they were headed that way. And to Trump say, Yeah, bring your treason back to America. And we won't tax you. Yeah. And it was like, oh, that's the best money move. And
all these people operate off of his money. Yes, that's all and they don't care about the climate. They don't care about their boobs. When you say the the people and I'm looking at corporate governance. Everybody wants one thing, share buybacks. So the price goes up, everyone's invested on that they don't care. It's not about the if the bought the bottom line has to influence the stock price. That's what it is. You don't need the bottom line, you don't need a bottom line to have to
have the stock price go up. You just need to have enough access to free money. So you can buy your own stock, where there is a number we got to get to a little later. We'll get we'll get there. But I think we stopped at 1213. Now we're at 13. Good morning, Jonathan. I agree with Charles the Fifth Circuit has the reputation of not just being the most conservative federal appellate court, but also the most political, and
also the least tethered to precedent. Remember this the same court, they refuse to intervene in the notorious Texas abortion law that allowed that to go into effect, the one that creates vigilante justice to get around Roe versus Wade. And here, they're doing the opposite. They're actually intervening using a different rule. Instead of just going to this traditional way of issuing a preliminary injunction. They just said, Hey, we find there are grave statutory and
constitutional issues here. And so they're acting pretty political. You can see why the Supreme Court where a Chief Justice Roberts says Concerns about politics that this could exacerbate the public perception of the court is just politicians wearing black robes. And I do think the US Supreme Court will reinstate the mandate after the Fifth Circuit does away with it, because first, it's not really a mandate. I mean, this is something that allows an opt out for people who are unvaccinated
to go ahead and just get tested weekly for COVID. And secondly, there's the 1905 Jacobson ruling where the Supreme Court said that vaccine mandates at the state and local level are constitutional, just in a seven to two ruling said that one person's Liberty does not override everyone else's. Now we're not totally sure if that ruling will apply to the federal
vaccine mandate. But this Supreme Court doesn't seem to have too much sympathy for anti vaxxers As evidenced by Justice Barrett ruling for Indiana University in August against students who complained about the vaccine mandates there. Yeah, there you go. That was the case I was talking about the Jacobsen case. But see how they play it. Oh, yeah, it's constitutional. Mm hmm.
But you hear the nervousness in their voice? Totally. They, they understand that this is their last shot, so they gotta go for all. I'm with the information age that we live in. When you actually go and look for facts, you can find them. So they're in a weird spot right now with the independent media is like we do hear and all all over. It's like screw, screw your cable package. I'll go watch YouTube for free. Yeah. Oh, yeah. I'll go to I'll
go to, I'll go to whatever you're saying. It's a whole long list of them. Or you don't want me there. Okay. That's the word that's that's where they don't want people that the beautiful thing about America is they want you fat, dumb and happy. That's about it, brother. And we're not happy. It don't feel good to save the planet. I know as I know, yeah. I said it. It doesn't feel good to say the plan. If this is what it cost is gonna cost me. I'm thinking just like the people at the top are
thinking, no, no, I'm looking. I'm saying no. I don't care about you know how great my phone can look. Because you're investing in sustainable. I don't care. Give me my gas. I don't want an electric car. And I think it's a severe miscalculation that they don't understand the psychology psychology of average people. Well, yeah, they don't. This is where they don't care. They actually they do understand that they just don't care. And I liken this you watch man, man, I watch Mad Men. You
remember the Oh, the guy that was I forget his name. He was alcoholic, he cleaned the stuff up. And he was a copywriter. And yes, he would remember he would tell him like, oh, sell the product because women want to get married. And they went all around their way around the block doing studies and blah, blah, blah. There's they don't have any more of those guys in the room. Those order guys to say, You know what, that's not
good. I've seen that before. That's not gonna work. What they've done is they brought in all these new people, but all their new ideas with no proof. That's right. I work with these people know that no side against them. I'm a I guess I'm a late millennial in 1980. I don't know where I fall that I'm a late millennial with Boomer tendencies. Um, yes, you are. No, cuz I was raised by my grandparents. So that now of course, I'm heavy on the boomer. Um, but that's a doesn't make
sense. And it's like, trust me it'll make that's hotter trying to sell it to us. And especially people my age, we're looking like home. You want to fire people? Right? That's, they don't understand workers code. The last thing you do as a worker is want to fire somebody. They don't get that. And everybody's laying real low. I'll bet. Yeah, cuz. Yeah. Especially with the boom, boom, boom, boom with the booster top. Now it's like, Oh, okay. Yeah, like, what's
your number? I'm asking everybody now what's your number? Right? You remember now, three boosters for boosters, 10 boosters, this gets get ready. When you hit your number, you will be on my side and it's not out of trying to win you on my side. But that's just the reality of the situation. That they're gonna keep pushing this until we stand up. And I don't think I don't think they understand who we are. We've gone along to get along. I'm telling you don't don't. I think
IQ said I ain't no killer, but no push me. No, don't. Don't push me. I'm close to the edge. Raise that you see and we like I said we been at the bottom for a long time everybody about started doing this and feel like what the bottom really feels rather I'm on I'm on I'm on Vax at the bottom right there with you and it wasn't about I'm talking about his so called Black people because the rent and the mountains I don't get to ride
that bottom not yet. Now, you don't want to write it but I'm just saying bad people have in the back of their mind like what if I get fired today? But if somebody says something I really don't like and I had to say something bad you know saying like that's it that's us. I wouldn't say a daily thought
when it crossed your mind. I wouldn't I think and I think everybody's starting to see that well I you know, people don't like I might get fired I would say and this only goes along with your prediction your first I would say that there are men all over the country who have that thought every single day. She said one more thing about men one more thing about you know, whatever it is Sis sis hat whatever the it is mansplaining scholar Yeah,
that's that's a real thing. That's of course you know, we we have that in you know, we have chemical composition that cream you know, anger is a part of our being that's what men have. So yeah. My mama bear they thought my mama bear. Yeah, that's pretty interesting. I've seen this away nothing to seeing Papa Bear. I thank you very much. Thank you very much. You're so right. Because and I love the whole Mama Bear vibe. And it's fine.
But yeah, Papa Bear. That's that's WiiWare because if you watch animal planner, and he shows like The hyenas coming in the women on the product and the lion pride. Yeah, he was saying like, they will handle their business. But when they let out that certain call yeah, there's there's the Papa when certain call Hey, come here saying he comes symbol over here. And he key, everybody? My name is yeah, that's the power of Mama Bear. Cuz she has that call to say, alright, daddy. All
right, like we took all we can take. That's the only I'm telling you that your mama bear is powerful. Cuz she's the thing that holds instability together right now. Because you talk about my kids starving. All right. I mean, do you really want to go there? I'm just asking y'all written and I'm not saying it in a violent way. I'm saying that is? Where does it stop? It's a lot of men out here. So I'm gonna go to the bottles go. Some of them go to other things. And then someone's
gonna be like, You know what? Okay. And it's gonna be some that build new things. Yeah, yeah. Depression can create some diamonds too. So I'm not I'm not interested in completely doomed out. But I'll just say to both sides, like Be careful this, this beautiful system that we have, even though it has flaws. This beautiful system that we have. Do you really want to break it? Oh, money. I'm talking to you. Oh, money. Do y'all really want to risk it on the last people?
They really don't give a shit. Oh, sorry. I think they they care because the bottom line? I'm appealing? I think at a certain point, bottom line may not matter. But okay. We'll see. See. That's I see. But let's go and get to 14. Charles, this is about companies being able to have a safe workplace I'm trying to understand was on unconstitutional about it. I mean, is there any potential that the those pushing against this mandate for businesses with
what 100 employees or more? There's a lot of businesses across the country that want to be back to work at full capacity and getting this economy back on track? Well, what I found interesting about this case, is that what they used as a means of trying to argue this wasn't necessarily a matter of should they be able to do it as if it was a question of the authority under OSHA, because OSHA essentially made this regulation or approved this regulation under emergency
authority. I don't know that that's going to be enough down the line, particularly given what we've seen in terms of COVID in the economy and the work and the in the amount of strain that is placed or different workspaces in order to
try to get this vaccine mandate. done away with I don't think that's going to be enough because the cost has been so great on the American people and so great when the country that more than likely what the court is going to do is basically validate that OSHA did have the authority to in fact, make this ruling and support what the Biden administration is trying to do. Devera boys can be a real go I'm sorry. You go. I'm just saying that the delta variant is still actually it's,
you know, still very much a part of our lives. We have got many months to go at the rate that we're going right now. In order to have COVID behind us these mandates are proven to work look at New York City. Praise works. Look at New York City. She said the quiet part out loud two seconds that clip, if you listen again, just play it right. Girls, this is about companies being able to have a safe workplace I'm trying to understand was on unconstitutional,
safe work, right there to get the slaves back to work? Yeah, we need them back in the building. That's, that's the real and I blame mid level management for this because they go on there, they don't meet their goals for the quarter and a half of the year. And they say, you know, my God was here on site, it would be so much better. Yeah, we would have hit our goal, you know, it's just, you know, they they're not here on site. So that's, that's what's pushing. That's why I say
all this hinges on the bottom line. Because these companies are like, we need our people back into the building, because this is why we're not making our numbers, which is not true. Which is not always the opposite. As far as I'm concerned. Right? I haven't had a better work life balance isn't outside the COVID thing, ever. Because I can work for a few hours, I can go no, hang out with kids for two hours and go back to work.
And I'm working later than I normally work. Um, you know, allows you to break your day, like, if you're gonna build it for eight hours you leave, I'm home, don't bother me. No, but that was like, okay, one hand washes the other. If you need me to be here a little later, I'll take off in the middle of the day. And then I'll come in and log in a little later and do what needs to be done. But it's this mid level management, this blaming the people not being there are their failures.
It's very rare, very reminiscent of mid mid level, state or city government saying why? Why is the federal government looking like we gave you $2 billion? Well, you know, it's just kind of got away from us, we need more. So I'm getting I'm just pointing that out. But she kind of pumping the brakes on saying they're in a weird spot right now. Because they want to say, well, the Delta variant is trending down. But they still need to keep pressure
applied. So at the end of the clip, last clip, she was like, well, the Delta variant is gonna kind of be with us for a while. And the reason why she said that is n 14 as a little short clip, this is how they lead this segment off. I think we're close to the end of this. This delta wave is the last major waiver infection. We've always said that two of the events that would demarcate the end of this pandemic was
being able to vaccinate our children. We're now able to do that down to age five, and also having a widely available or orally accessible drug that could treat Coronavirus at home to prevent people from being hospitalized or dying. Yeah. Okay. So first of all, let's just consider the source of this 19 second intro. This is Scott Gottlieb, former FDA commissioner who left the FDA during the Trump administration and went straight to Pfizer on the board. Yeah. And he is he's
telling us the VAX is great. This is what we want to delta is gone, nothing else. There's no scientific evidence that's been published that proves that. And he says no. And of course, we've got a great pill coming up another Pfizer product. He says the last major wave, how can you be so cavalier and confident he's from the FDA, man, he knows these things. You got the crystal ball. So now you heard what she said how she had to say it like, Oh,
is she wanted to say, oh, Delta, various killing lists. But then she had to remember like, oh, no, no, because the timing of the pill. The timing of the pill is how the variant ends. So now, I firmly believe the pill is it. That's the Pfizer's end strategy. Yes, they will come up with boosters every six months. But I think the the pill is there. It's like a subscription donation. You know, it's like, let's just get let's get a couple 100 million people on this thing. 2000 $2,000 a month.
But we ruin excuse me, we ruin the rollout for the appeal for them. As we're saying with the power I'm not doing today, and I'm not glooming The power is in our hands. Once people start saying I broke ivermectin is like, shit, we got to ramp up the pill. You know, like, they're talking about our competition. We don't really want to talk about it right now. But we got to so their whole timeline is thrown off. They I'm sure they didn't want to talk about this pill they're talking
about for a while now. And I want to have Why would you have conflicting products on the market? We got the vaccine going. We got the government bond and hand over fist you know, saying four or five shots out understand? Yeah, well, no, I think the this is their hedge. You know, the last thing they want is, is people to really turned against the vaccine. They need an alternative. So maybe a hedge may be the strategy. I understand what you're saying.
And like I say, I think it was a hedge but I don't think they were really playing that card yet. But when you have somebody like Rogen come out, and then you have somebody like Aaron Rodgers come out time to accelerate. It's like me, but we want to get at least you know, four or five shots out this booster. Yeah, what's your number? What's your number? What's your number? Now we go to this plot chain.
Retail CEOs are telling consumers to start shopping for the holidays now, and this time, it's not a marketing technique. For the first time there's a kink in every link in the supply chain.
We've seen shutdowns in areas in China, shutdowns in warehousing and trucking facilities in the United States couple the logistics nightmare with strong consumer spending four times higher than typical in July Jay Foreman is the CEO of basic fun, which sells Carebears connects Tonka Trucks and more to retailers like Amazon, Walmart and Kohl's the transportation and the supply chain can't keep up with
the demand. There's not enough containers. There's not enough ships, there's not enough trucks, there's not enough warehousing, to hold everything that everybody wants to buy. This year. Logistics makes the transportation of goods much more expensive. Last year around this time, the typical container cost roughly just under $2,000. Right now we're seeing cost increases up
over $20,000 per container. And each container we can fit about 10,000 units and and Harper CEO and founder of OMG accessories uses around 200 Containers per year. The inflated prices are costing her an extra $2 million to get her backpacks and accessories to retailers from Nordstrom to TJ Maxx. Yep, this is where I think they're gonna use the unbanked people. unvaccinated people. Okay, we're going to be the people that broke Christmas. Ah, of course. No obvious yes.
We're going to be the people who broke Christmas because they need a patsy. They this supply chain thing is a problem. It's been a problem. We've seen them taking folding chairs and actually unfolding them and putting them on shelves. We've seen even them hanging cards have what was on the shelves on the shelves? Excuse me, um, they need a scapegoat. And they're going to use us for who broke the supply chain. If these people are only came to work, you know, a Christmas wouldn't have been ruined.
Right. Well, that's I think I heard our I think I heard both our energy secretary and Transportation Secretary say something to the effect of the only way the supply chain problem ends is when everyone's vaccinated. That's that Yeah, cuz they want to blame the reason they're not saying that because they believe that no, no, I'm with you. I'm strengthening the argument. The real reason is because they've encouraged people not to
work. Yes, it was one of the real now was now the Slack has caught caught up because as people commonly saying, I don't know how true it is. We only have about four or five days worth of food on on the shelves and grocery stores. Um, when you have a Black Friday, yeah, that's gonna be interesting. People just go in, buy out everything, everything you can't stop. See, I said I've worked just about every job imaginable.
And I've been a stock guy. I'm not Wall Street, but actually stocking shelves, um, and you got to get those shelves stocked back up as fast as they get unloaded. Especially around Black Friday. So you have like pallets sitting in the middle of the floor of stuff ready to go on the shelves on anticipation? I'll tell you one better mo I'll tell you there's going to be nothing on Black Friday because they're going to open up early on
Thursday. It's going to get cleaned out Thursday night. Then what it's Yeah, then we're gonna see some pretty angry people they're gonna blame us Yes of course. Of course. If only you were okay in the work Yep. With with these clips I have or from wait like months ago when a when the supply chain with not months ago, beginning of the month, maybe two months ago. I have about six clips from three or four sources. They're
gonna blame us if these people just came to work. Notice what happened but what we have to understand is how Christmas supports the rest of the year. Oh, it's it's the in America. It's the time of year and you talk about Mama Bear. Now you now you are talking about Mama Bear. Let him not let them babies not have no Christmas. This is gonna come There's gonna be a problem. Come hook or crook. And I can only speak from my culture. Oh, I don't care what your economic status is. The baby's got to
have Christmas. There's something under the tree. There's a tree for you. First of all, you got to have a tree. I don't care if his family got a pool in. It's like, yeah, you know, you know how to receive. And Baby's gotta have Christmas, USA. We keep getting the money. And that's like, every kid has to wake up with something under a tree for Christmas. Y'all really want to play this game where it won't be no Christmas.
No, you thought those school meeting boards were bad. We've stampeded we have traffic Scott IT people over you're saying Teddy rubs beans in and Tickle Me Elmo? Yes. Somebody dies every Black Friday for being trampled. least one? way now you want to say the stores are empty? Is that really? Is that really what you want to do? And that's why they're pushing this thing. Get your Christmas shopping done early. Get your Christmas shopping done early because they're trying to spread
that out. Because as humans do we always wait till last minute to go shopping. That's just the habit of especially keeping especially humans with a penis. This is what we do very well. No, I'll gender I'll gender it. I know. I gotta go get something like last night that night before Christmas. Yeah, I just got to go there. They're they're there. And Toys R Us are not as close. Yeah, anything because a game like let me see if I can get this all
done on Christmas Eve. You know, that kind of thing. But just imagine if the stores empty on the day after Black Friday. I mean, empty. Empty, possibly. I see. I see. I think it's very possible. I laid out what I think and now we're going to listen to the next four or five clips to see if it supports what my narrative is number 16. Typically, when we bring in products from overseas, it takes roughly about 30 days to get to our warehouse in California.
Right now with all the delays that we're experiencing. We're seeing anywhere from six to eight plus weeks delay, put it all together, empty shelves and higher prices are inevitable when 40 or 50% of the cost of the product is in the freight that's going to eventually have to either tilt over to the consumer. With higher prices or in some cases, suppliers will decide to stop producing some of these products because they can't bring them in profitably.
Karl it's already an issue for back to school and and Harper warns this Black Friday consumers may not see the deep discounts that they're used to. The good news is because all the players in the supply chain are working together to absorb these higher costs. The consumer should only see price increases between 3% and 15% on the high end, that is if you can find what you're looking for. That may be a big gift Courtney I
know it's dangerous to guess. But how long might the supply chain nightmare last? That's a great question Kroll I have so many people that question and most of the experts and people that are working through this are predicting at least through the spring of 2022 if not longer Yeah, that's not gonna get it. No. You heard him say well,
you're gonna and I want people to pay attention to this. I think we're gonna see black friday not a thing on a made out on a major scale, because they can't allow that run on the stores to happen that's going to expose everything in my thinking. If you have that you can't replace back fast enough what the people came in, bought in bulk or came in you know, impulse buying. I think they're gonna have to say well, you know, we're not gonna have that many Black Friday sales.
Here's the easy OLIO spool he's the only reason I would maybe contradict the great reset that the great reset, that is the World Economic Forum that is that's that's really the the less people people. Less people more money. They want a great reset, but you can't reset anything until something's completely broken. So I unfortunately like your theory so much, I think they will encourage the stores to be empty Friday. I think it will encourage the shelves to be empty. I really do.
And I don't disagree with you. Except for one reason is do they understand the ramifications of that. Like this is not gonna be just oh, well the stores is empty. I'm just gonna go home now. No, we've seen women harm each other physically? Over the last Tickle Me Elmo here but doesn't you? Yeah, but that plays into less people more for us. I'm a little more cynical. I think they had totally have it in them. And I think they they know the risk and I think they're fine with it.
But I think is a miscalculation. That's my point. I'm not saying they won't do it. I'm just saying like, Well, I'm gonna go back to Chris could a great theory. It seemed like a good idea to put pedophilic books in the library when you were gay planning, it seemed like a good idea. Alright, hold on, hold on, hold on. Uh huh. Okay, so now let me just let me just separate it. So we need to separate the the money people, the less people more money
people from the execute from the politicians. Politicians will kind of just do what, what, what they're guided to do. And yes, I don't think the politicians understand not at all and they have no idea and that will certainly change the political landscape in many places. That's why they're they're cutting their nose off to spite their face. Yeah, I'm with you on that. Yes. But that's politicians. That's the
politicians. I think the agenda is to have this happen. I think the politicians are so stupid they're going to go along with it. Because you know why and isn't it and this is completely speculation, completely speculation. But when you have a room full of aunts, and uncles with no kids on Christmas I mean, because that's what it is. I mean, I'm when I'm saying my uncle you see this archetype on Christmas commercials by be the best art be the best uncle by your nieces and nephews exactly
what they want. Right? So they don't understand that pressure of buying your kids what they want on Christmas. Oh, no, most most of these people have no no kids. That's their miscalculation. Okay. I bring the bell for that. Mama will drive to five stores to find that one toy that they kids won't any it ain't and I'm telling you. It's not gonna be oh, well, we get into you on the 27th Nanny layaway that is not going to work at all. I mean, I've been around Christmas long
enough and I've been a father for for 18 years now. You want like I said, you want to make you want to make somebody make a mama man. Mess up Christmas. Well, so Christmas bill also maybe to be to play the devil's advocate here. Maybe it will also be a bit of a wake up call that we should be considering things that are really important even for Christmas. And we may need to reset some of our values in that
regard. Because I understand and you're right mama bear will go anywhere to buy that one piece of plastic shit from from China. Maybe Mama Bear needs to evaluate down the road not right away. But down the road is like was it really all worth that? Is that really what's gonna make my family happy and healthy and prosperous? Yes. Because it's biological. That's my hope. No, I'm saying you ask the question. Is it worth it? Yes. Because it's the
biological response that the mother gives. When they're children being completely happy. It has nothing to do about the plastic crap. We all know it's plastic overpriced crap. We get that. We stay up all night putting this plastic crap together. So your kid or our kids can have that one magical day each year. That's the high man. That's the Hi, Sally, you know is the high Fair enough. In their in their plan with that? I'm telling you that they're okay. I'm just warning I'm just
warning them. Oh, no, I'm I'm with you on that. I'm with you. But I think it's gonna go all the way they're too stupid. Hope they are. And when the irony be that Christmas saves us all. Christmas save Christmas. Christmas. Save the world instead of the how the world save Christmas. Ooh, I like it. Kind of like this. I like this. Maybe. Maybe we should write the screenplay get this in early. I like Jim Carrey. He could do something in there, I'm sure. So Navin play Nancy Pelosi Beautiful.
Now we got to get to the economic impact of the holidays. They call the day after Thanksgiving Black Friday, because that's the day when retail sales swing from red to black. In other words, it's the day when the losses end and the profits start rolling in. But what if Americans decided for one holiday season not to buy a single thing. Exactly how bad would that actually be for the US economy? Well, it probably comes as no surprise that both retail stores and E commerce
vendors would take a big hit. It's projected that a boycott on holiday gifts would amount to more than a half trillion unspent dollars. It would be a particularly Blue Christmas for toy companies, almost half of all toy sales take place during those months. So it's a big chunk of change. But the American economy is massive. The GDP is the combination of all the cars, houses, washing machines, doctor visits,
mortgages, and everything else sold in the US. Altogether, it comes to more than $16.8 trillion, just a fraction of that as holiday sales. So then why do we make such a big deal about them? Okay, now you understand why I'm using you knew this already course. But for the people listening. That's why Black Friday is Black Friday. And really where you go, I don't know. Do you do much Christmas shopping? I mean, I don't think you've been out of the game for a while. I think you probably
only got to get like one or two gifts. I am a I'm an excellent gift giver. And I have changed. I've bettered my ways. In my third marriage. Now I have more children to buy gifts for I've now I'm an order. So I will order stuff, but I rarely will go to a store. But I'm on time. If you go to the stores, what people don't realize is they're selling you all the crap that wouldn't sell out here. Black Friday is yeah, of course.
It's 32 inch TV, you're saying $99? You don't have my two buttons been written off already has completely written off merchandise. Yes. And that's why they go from black to me from red to black. But if you don't have the inventory there yet, yeah. Now this is why I'm getting back to the business folks. If you wake up, Black Monday out the Black Friday, and you're still in the red. Yeah, you're dead. Oh, Mission failed. Yeah. let's peep last people group. You had one job. Yeah. You had one. It
sounds nice. It sounds hot. To say oh, yeah, we were running to take the loss. But the longer game No, no, no, no, nobody's willing to take the loss for the long game. It sounds really cool. But these money people, they always want to win. This is why they rigged the game. And I don't think they really accounted for breaking Christmas. They broke Christmas. And it didn't start this week or last week. It is a total accumulation of not making goals not making goals not making ship
goals not making ship goals. Now I can't build this game. I can't build that phone. I can't build this car. I can't less stuff to buy now people are just going to buy what was on the shelves what we're normally linger around for Black Friday. They're buying that crap up now. This is going to be nothing less man. This could have been it's not going to work. It's not going to work. It's going to be horrible. It's going to be beautiful. Well, yeah, yes. When people wake up when people wake up.
That's what we need. We need that joke of yeah, you thought you could just go to the store and buy what you want it Mm hmm. Now don't work like that. Um, and the reason I say this my wife is a big holiday person. She loves ma she decorates for mom. Yeah, we had a Valentine's Day trees. I'll just I'll leave it okie dokie which is kind of cool. You can leave the tree up for another month. That's where there's people out here to look for the holiday you saw when they tried to take Christmas out
of Christmas. Oh, no, that became a problem. Right? So you're trying to get rid of Christmas itself. Okay, I'm not harping on a point. I'm just trying to stress the importance. And the This is why y'all should consult me and Adam. Before y'all go went through with him. I could have been told you ruin a Christmas is not a good plan. I love I love that phrase been told you I love that something about it. Because I heard it from Hotep Hotep been told you I
love that shit. I love I love the new English. This is great. We have we try to tell people all the time. But we get the impact. Because we're parents you know of course I'm telling they don't get it. They don't have and this is why you need they always talk about diversity. This is why you have to have diversity in the room, you have to have parents in the room, you got to have older people in the room. You just can't have these. And I've saw it coming in industry. It's like
these late 20, early, early 30 year olds. They replaced all the older guys and ladies with these people, because it's cheaper. I get it. Um, but what you, you what you lose in that transaction is perspective. And I'm thinking probably goes all the way up to a corporate I'm sure it goes all the way to corporate America. Yeah, Christmas. I don't even really celebrate Christmas. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Okay. Um, so I guess let's finish up with the economic impact, too.
So then why do we make such a big deal about them? For one thing, it's because consumer habits during the holidays tell us a lot about how people are doing overall. In 2013, the average consumer spent just north of $50,000 a year on everything from entertainment and food, to housing and insurance. It's estimated that between eight and 900 of those
dollars are spent on holiday gifts. tracking how much consumers buy during the holidays can give economists insights into other habits, like whether they're saving money for a rainy day, or spending more on entertainment and travel. The other big reason we care about holiday sales is because of all the short term jobs created from November through January, we tell stores increase their workforce by almost 800,000 people and shipping companies will add more than 100,000. On
top of that. They're largely low wage positions. But these jobs signal the strength of the overall economy. And they help people afford to buy a few gifts of their own. So any more jobs with less workers? Yes, it's what could go wrong. Okay, can you really tell me that they consciously gamed all of this? I mean, now the people at top, I'll give you that break. I agree. There's a contingency that break
everything. But I think there's a lot of levels in between there that just are just going along with the plan and don't realize what's going to happen here. Well, I can't work. I actually like it. So now now I'm on your side here. I like this because I'm all about the 40%. And yeah, that's so the people who are just going along is the 40% and Christmas could be a tipping point. They're getting you ready with Thanksgiving already. It's gonna be the most expensive Thanksgiving ever.
Yes. Yeah. You may not be able to get a turkey. Right, which people don't really dig Thanksgiving like that. I mean, it's big, but not a Christmas. Christmas is the king of all holidays. Yeah, we got it. This is the this is the warm up game. This is the pre show. And it's emotional. Yeah, I'm gonna speak it for myself here. We all get the holiday experience. It is a real thing. You got to break that. Okay. Let me see how that works out for
you. So now we have CNN. They got budaj edge. I think budaj edge. I wanted to judge the new father budaj edge. He's gonna talk about this supply chain and issues with Christmas. So holiday expectations management, as we're looking, I guess, who's to say he's the trend. He went from Mayor Pete of a small town in Indiana, to transportation secretary.
So holiday expectations management as we're looking at these supply chain issues, how bad are they going to get for Americans, and I'm talking specifically, you know, leading here into the December holidays where people are relying on getting goods, I'm getting presence? Well, I think there's always been two kinds of Christmas shoppers. They're the ones who have all their lists completed by Halloween. And then there's people like me who show up at
the mall on Christmas Eve. If you're in that latter bucket, obviously, there's going to be more challenges. But we are also working right now with the private sector players who own and operate most of us supply chains to find ways to ease the bottlenecks that are bottlenecks that are impacting everything from consumer goods to construction goods in this country. This is a largely private sector system and a global one at that. But there are a lot of steps that we can
take as an administration as an honest broker. That's what the President has directed us to do. And that's part of why we're gathering right here at the White House with leaders from the ports of LA and Long Beach, labor leaders and the private sector companies that you know, the FedEx is ups as Walmart's others who play that role on everything that happens between when something arrives on a ship and when it gets to the shelf so you can get it to your home.
So you're doing this 90 Day sprint This is what the administration is doing to address the supply chain issues. But when you do the math on that, of course that takes us into January. So that is after of course December. after the holidays, should Americans be prepared? Should they know they're not going to get their packages? They're not going to get their goods in time for Christmas if they're not doing it right now. Yeah, that's the question. That's the question. All right.
To put this in perspective, I've seen UPS trucks on Christmas Eve night. Steel delivery. Sure. I mean, this has global ramifications. He got kids being woke up to there's no Santa. In maths. I know I sound like I'm lying over selling this, but I'm not Do you realize we lie to our kids? And tell them that some fat guy? Yeah, that's, that's a good perspective. Do you still have any kids who are believers? No. I was. I was I was five or six.
When I got ruined for me. I remember how disappointed my mom was. But that's the that's the logic behind the mandate. And jabs is well, what if I took it? Well, why don't you have to say yeah, no, there's no Santa. Yeah. Why? Why you think they're Santa. And the older kids really ruin it for him. But now you're talking about in mass wake up of Santa. He said he was gonna bring me a Lego set. And it's not here. Oh, stand over here on the 27th the baby.
When the container comes in from the north pole, it don't work like that. And you can hear in her voice. She's like, you notice behind you in January. Yeah, please, live and die off of making that Christmas Day. Ship because it really doesn't matter after that. I mean, if you don't prepare to if I didn't get it by Christmas, I'm going to sell it so let's just just let's let's keep it real here for a second. Um, has Mrs. facts come to you and said let me tell you some this
is gonna be a real problem. I can't get the shit for these kids these years and we're gonna have to deal with this has this our this conversation already taken place? Or she's still good. Mrs. Facts are shopping in in September. Okay. Girl her Christmas. Dance. Not good. It's not. And that's. That's how a lot of moms are. That is not an option. Roger that. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, I mean, my kid my kids are all my kids are all much older. So yeah, so you're right. I don't
have this experience anymore. And of course, it never had it because everything was always certainly in the 80s or the 90s. And growing up, there's everything. You could get anything. You could order everything. Not a problem. So I don't really I mean, I see what you're saying. Because I have a different game too. Because you used to kid to kid when I was a kid. I didn't have it. Right? It was like mommy's on Amazon right here. Yeah, it's already in the basket for you just got to click Checkout.
So this is epic proportions, man. I'm not overselling it. And you can hear the conversation they're having on a global level. They understand the importance of Christmas. Psychologically, you heard the bottom line, they look at it, see how people spend around the holidays, how they gonna spend for the next year? Because that's kind of like same, because it's just going to go into my dad back for a minute. If it's been a good year to kids don't get some extra. You know,
it's been a good year. Let's go ahead and get back what we thought we couldn't get. And then the economic people look at like, hey, Mo is a bit of extra this year. He must be a good year, he must be you know, making out let's, let's make more for next year. But now it's gonna be like, Whoa, Mo is not spending because he can't can he literally can't spend it. He can't Yeah, I got a hold on my provisions. And they're gonna look at we're like, let's make less. Let's lay off people.
Let's let's downsize that has a ripple effect. Um, so I guess we can get to the second part of this. CNN clip. All right back to budaj edge. Well, let me be clear, there is more throughput than there has ever been. In other words, we are processing right now as a country, record levels of containers and other goods coming into our ports already. The issue is that there's even
more demand than the supply chain can support. Remember, we are relying on supply chains that were built generations ago is one of the reasons why this entire year we have been talking about and working on infrastructure and are eager to see Congress act to get this infrastructure deal through you know includes 17 billion dollars for our ports, which has a level of support federal support for ports that we've never seen
before. Of course, that's a long term concern. There are short term steps that we can take to like expanding the hours at our biggest ports and working with terminal operators with truckers to get that flow of goods. So think about it, when you see these pictures of those ships waiting at anchor waiting outside of the ports. That means the ships are already there. So it's everything after that, that we have to work to unclog it's, they're not being spaces for the ships at the birth. It's the
containers being backed up. And that goes through a supply chain through the rails through the trucks, again, all the way to the store shelf. Yeah, the ripple effects are wide, and we're learning they're very expensive as well. That guy, the bottleneck is here on our side. He made a very valid point if this the tankers are lined up. In Port, they can't be unloaded. It's not a it's not a from China to here problem. Nope. No, you got to get those things unloaded and get them
back into water and going back to be filled back up again. The problem is you don't have workers? Well, that has a number of reasons. And the main, the main bottleneck is California ports and truckers who literally cannot even operate in the state of California because of climate
change regulations for their vehicles and for themselves. And there's a lot of truckers who are just saying I'm not interested in in in driving truck anymore because it's just it's it's become unmanageable, the government's measuring you tracking you every single step of the way. Now, they have said, the Biden administration as far as I know, that there will be no mandate for truckers. How can we go from state to state the state? No mandate for
them. Mm hmm. And now let's go back and revisit what we're talking about about ups. The Postal Service, you're gonna get rid of a bunch of people and then put this kind of pressure on them. God, okay, Mo you bummed me out, man. No, I'm not. Christmas is not common is no Christmas. Christmas. Christmas was a was one point. I want to bring up one point before we move on to the next clip. You bear wire watcher? Of course, wire? Yes. What was one of the power structures on the wire?
Well, shit. What do you mean? What? How many do you want me to mention? I mean, one that would be pertinent to this conversation? The docks? The what? The docks. The gods on the dock. Oh, yeah. No, totally. Oh, yeah. You You think they say on purpose? Oh, yeah. Absolutely. I mean, I mean, it's, it's union it's shenanigans. It's who's paying who I know that. People who know the way on the docks, they're going in with their own truck with their own carrier. You know, the, the the chassis,
they're going in with ladders and everything. They're paying off the right people. They're getting their own stuff on loading it and getting the getting containers on their own chassis. They have to do it themselves. But they have to know the way Oh, yeah. The corruption is complete. Absolutely. That's the that's the oh, that's the more people group is no, you're not going to shut us down. You're not good at what? No, no gas engines know what Okay. All right. Let's see how
that works out for you. Yeah. And is we'll sit on our hands trust me. This is this is lizard people pay attention. Okay, all right lizard people. He goes special message. The power is with the people. We ran this. Y'all don't understand me. It's logistics. That's why I've worked in logistics all my life. I'm saying from packing boxes to warehouse worked all the way up to what I do now. And quality and quality control and quality assurance. If we sit on our hands, you don't make your
goal. If we want you to make your goal you make your goal. They don't understand they don't they they banking on in AI and all this. Okay. All right. So to extrapolate what you're saying, Are you telling me that there's a concerted effort from the dock workers or whoever organizes the dock workers to make everything apparent by slowing this down? I'm just going off my wire knowledge as good as any
as far as if I got that kind of power. If I got that kind of juice and you're trying to leverage Me and pat my business. Okay, let them pile up, right? We have this kind of attitude and when I worked in fast food, you want to be a jerk to me as a manager let the drive thru back up I don't care. You pay me 575 hour what I care right I'll walk out here and go across the street and get another job right so that's that's the West what they don't understand they think they got as leverage but they
don't understand you have more vested in this than I do. And when I speak I speak for the worker I speak for the people hmm wow, that was that was that would be truly beautiful. All right. You don't see it is happening is happening before our eyes. Because he just he gave a tail there. It's it's backing up into port. Also it's not it's not a production issue. No, it's not. Somebody somewhere it says no, I don't want to do it. And I won't do it. And you can't make me
do it. Well, it is the California ports. California. Just me Baltimore, Florida. Florida said Bring them here. No problem. Yeah. So it's just amazing houses next and they and I actually found a way to say oh, no, that can't that's not going to work. I know Florida makes no sense. I there was some some noise about that I was reading. Well, I'm sure in Boston, California on the phone to Boston, Florida. Hey, you stepping on my toes here. We're trying to work something out.
Well, they're trying to work out with big out that's for sure. This is a big one. So I'm going here. So I'll wrap this up with before we go on to the donation segment with this is the dumbest idea ever heard Max vaccine mandates and unemployment? What companies are now requiring COVID-19 vaccinations and when
that comes employees who will refuse to get the shot. ABC 10 News reporter Mimi Alcala gives us a look at whether workers who quit or get fired over the mandate can qualify for unemployment benefits. With Pfizer's COVID-19 vaccine getting full approval more private employers are now adding company policies requiring their workers to be fully vaccinated by specific dates unless they have a cleared medical or religious exemption. When employee refuses to get vaccinated in response to an
employer mandate. What the employee is doing is violating a company rule, some employees will choose to quit or get fired instead of getting a vaccine. But legal analyst anyone says violating a company rule could mean no unemployment insurance benefits
for those individuals as they search for new jobs. And under both circumstances the violation of a company rule and employee generally is not entitled to unemployment, if that's the reason for their dismissal in California, there are several eligibility requirements when applying for unemployment benefits. The state's Employment Development Department better known as EDD says unemployment claims are determined on a case by case basis by looking at the
facts specific to an individual claim. But benefits are generally available to those who lose work through no fault of their own. A spokesperson for EDD tells me when someone quits or is fired and then seeks unemployment benefits. We conduct a phone interview with both the claimant and employer to determine if the person is eligible for benefits. If an applicant quits their job, they must prove there was good cause for leaving, and that they made all reasonable attempts to keep that job.
This is bad optics. Yeah. Yeah. Do you want to fire people? Or leave them lingering? Some cases? around the holidays and no unemployment either? Yeah, this is this is this is the evil part. And we were talking about it earlier. This unemployment thing. It's like, it's the worst. It's the lowest of all low even when you want to fire somebody because they're not performing. You typically give them two weeks. You give them a little bit, or if they've
been working at the company X amount of years. It's you know, so many week, you know, a week per year or whatever. And that's just, that's just normal. Business. That's expected. I've had seven 800 employees in my life. No, no, you're talking about severance. I know. But no, no, no, no, no. They're talking about the government issue. Unemployment that we paid into, like people like myself. Oh, no, no, I understand. I understand the company but the companies are stopping that.
Well, I don't think the companies are stopping it. Because I have some good knowledge. Some companies are saying well, we won't contest it. But you heard from that clip, they're saying, Well, if you got fired for breaking a company rule, ie not taking the jab, then you're in don't even qualify for it. So that puts it back on the government, not the employer.
No, I understand I'm just saying from a humane perspective, even when someone screws up I fired people on the spot but I still gave them two weeks severance and then didn't it and then didn't get in their way of getting unemployment. No, not at all. No, that's what I'm saying they're going even they're not even saying no severance that have been bad enough. Yeah, they're saying you know what, you won't even get what you paid into a How does that
work? How does that system work? What is the company's role? Is that purely you got fired there for you? I mean, is it the terms of unemployment it can't be because you're left obviously can it be if if you were fired because you stole from the company can you still get unemployment then the AP if you brought it on yourself, kind of like you know, style or whatever, like that. The company can tell the unemployment office and Employment Office how you want
to say we say unemployment office. They say look, um, he was a jerk. I'm not gonna pay unemployment. And then well, they contested it you don't get it. That's how it works. But now there's putting it in China shaping in a way like if even if the company says okay, yeah, he left because COVID Were all he did he Oh, where he didn't qualify for right? This is this is very sick. It's not like say it's bad enough is bad enough
that you fire somebody cuts through their choice. Then on top of that, you don't give me separate and and you and you take away Christmas, and you take away and you do it all around Christmas holiday, Thanksgiving, all this stuff. And then you say, oh, yeah, oh, yeah. No, no unemployment either. Mo it's obvious. We know who's behind this. Who hates people who cray? Who hates Christmas the most? Satan not being a man of church going man myself. It seems pretty
obvious. This is past Scrooge. Yeah. Oh, no. This is past the Grinch past everything. In the group was green. This is this is Beelzebub. Man, this shit is no good. So, but it's, it's dumb. Yeah. It's dumb. Why would you take it that? I don't want again, okay. Okay. Okay. Again, these the people doing this? are in a state of hypnosis. You have to keep reminding yourself. The stupider it seems, the more likely they are to be all in on it. I didn't make it up. This is what the professor's tell me
about this. This mask formation. You understand the benefit if your goal is to do this quietly Do you know what Karina and I must say this that we can slot on into the donation segment. Do you know what this is going to do to the crime rate? There's not know what the optics of this is gonna be. It's gonna be really nice. And you notice Amazon rolled out that new thing? We could put it in your garage? Yeah, just give us a lot of jacked open garages.
No, that's that's their new thing to keep it for sitting on your front porch. Give us your garage. All right, yeah, let us let us in. In your garage, because we know it's gonna be a lot of stealing going on. Yeah, well, yeah. I'm a rapidly so I mean, you stop people from eating, this is what you get. You want chaos. You want anarchy? Okay, I'm trying to hold civility I you know what we say about the thin pane of glass? Yeah, I'm trying to keep
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lot of talented people with a lot of free time. So this is about where you can. Let's see where we stop it. We're back to FDR, I think. So we're back to FDR. So as putting the show together, and then being what Davis fell on being the day before Veterans Day, had to think like, what is the last mandate that we've had that can be comparison, in comparison to this. And I will say it's the Selective Service draft. Nailed it.
In September 1940, the selected Service Act was passed. And for the first time in history, American boys were being drafted during peacetime you'll have the confidence and the gratitude and the love your country. We are all with you. In the past, Quicken lists the services of all American the task of keeping the peace in this new world. President Roosevelt announced draft order number one, the first peacetime draft number ever to be drawn
drawn by the Secretary of War is Syria. Number one, that thing as you know, when the when the when Bush invaded Iraq the first time Hmm. Deserts was that desert Desert Storm, I think. Yes. I remember I don't know if you had to do this, but I had to register for the Selective Service. Yeah, everybody has to do that when they turn 18. Yeah, I had to re register for selective service. Oh, okay. Do you have those on I was doing 10 Right. Okay, so I remember that because I, I think my comp my
company might have even been public at that point. And it was just the weirdest thing. I'm like, What? What I got it. I mean, they could actually like, take me and put me in the desert. Hmm, that was that was a weird thing, ma'am. It's a weird thing for every man when they turn 18 Right here. Here's your card. Yeah. Is it funny? It's a card. Here's a card. Let's make sure you get that card filled up there. Yeah.
So you can do what you're supposed to do is your duty, um, which have I brought this up. Because I think that's the closest thing that we can acquaintance to and I'm going somewhere with this. But this was the beginning of it. I think 1940 was the first time I ever started to drag people in peacetime. And M what we're going to do is listen to another FDR clip, just give some context to it. But that opened up the
door for later drafts. So 24 America's most epical call to arms and preparedness, millions of men from 21 to 36. lineup and sign up throughout the nation. This week the Rockefellers son of John D, Jr. Answer the call to national service. And well, if it isn't Maxi bear ready to go into training again. And no kidding? Well, not much. The Rodeo scars sign up hoping they don't draw the iron cavalry. One of the first young men to register is Warren purging son
of our famous wartime commander. All races, creeds and colors line up for national defense. in Chinatown, though Russia is just as great and enthusiastic as elsewhere, Harlem to keep their registrars busy. With the safety of America threatening all Americans, the humble and the mighty, willingly embrace selective service. From the White House comes a definite
promise by the President. So those answering their nation's preparedness call our president program we're praying 800,000 additional men this coming year, and somewhat less than lady and men each year thereafter. It is a program obviously, defensive preparation and defensive preparation, only the 16 million young men who registered today, I say that democracy is your cause. Yeah, it's true reason why I chose to go this direction with
this one. When there's a real risk or real threat. American men have no problem stepping up. Agree because we understand what's at stake. Even in those times. This FDR was the first president that let Black soldiers fight alongside white soldiers in the modern era. I mean, it happened in the Civil War. I mean, but like not to this extent, he won a lot of
cachet because understanding was for black men. If we go in fight and show we're brave, then that should know game there's more standing when we go back home. It was a pipe dream. But yeah, it was a pipe dream. But it nevertheless even people that were oppressed in those towns were willing to go fight for this country even though they had a for lack of a better word, a rocky relationship with the country. Yeah, so but now it was get Jad why because we're it's a threat. It's the enemy. You
know. Okay. So why is this not a share responsibility? Here you saw, even in this clip, Rockefeller was brought out there Yeah, even give the optics. Yeah. Anybody could get drafted. Yeah, we forced Elvis. Elvis was when he, I think was a Mickey Mantle. Or, well, we know, we know who we know who didn't go later. Much later. Was that Muhammad Ali? Oh, yeah, I mean, oh, yeah. But I'm saying a lot of baseball
players that gave her everything. Yeah. So it was just an understanding that if it's a real enemy, then we'll step up. But now is, is that's one of the Nazis or you don't want to do you know, you don't want to do your civic duty to roll up your sleeves and get the jab. They never really they never really played the patriotic angle that hard. And I think the reason is because of this, this comparison, then then, you know, saying this is patriotic would
be a little too close to Trump words. Yeah, a little fresh, little too fresh to use the P word you know, so they couldn't really push that they box yourself in, but it also would be nationalism. So a set to global status, global citizen and get jabbed.
And we, and we do have this this narrative and meme going around from gates from the World Health Organization, and mainly from the Progressive Caucus saying, you know, this is racist, it's unfair, the whole world needs to be vaccinated and if the whole world isn't vaccinated, guess what? We'll never get rid of COVID and Christmas will never return.
That's the that's the narrative. But if that's the case then and that's where we're at with it let's start a vaccine draft Yeah, if everybody got to get it let's go yeah, let's let's line up everybody got to roll up their sleeves now we get to see who goes and who's giving lip service. Everybody name goes in it. We are going to open it up for the baby's name to your back put the babies in the draft. Yeah, unless she's in the womb the babies in the womb.
I bet you if you floated that idea it will be totally different the response but if that if we're facing an enemy by no other let's roll up the sleeves the little baby sleeves to the onesie sleeves let's just jab everybody to sick thought that way everybody's carrying the low equally there's there's there's no um Well I'm a entrepreneur independent you know kind of guys I don't have to take it all I'm a politician. I don't have to take right even though
even even John McCain had to go in. Exactly. Alright. Even George Bush, even George Bush. Yeah, no, maybe no. Jr. Didn't know jumping Jr. was he had Jr. was horrible. Okay, okay. Yeah, Jr. was I don't know if he was drafted, but he was in military service. It was all cashmere dry. Okay, okay. Um, so that's where we're at with it. So this 1940 thing opened up the 1960s draft for the Vietnam War as captured in clip 25. The draft lottery, a live report on tonight ticking of the
birthdays for the draft. And now a page from our Sunday morning opener on December 1 19 6950 years ago today, the night of America's first military draft lottery since 1942. With the war in Vietnam as a backdrop and the futures of some 850,000 young men on the line, a lottery featured a bin containing 366 capsules, one for each possible birthday, the order in which their birthdays were drawn from that Ben would determine the order in which those young men would be drafted. First chosen first to
serve. Congressman Alexander pirnie of New York drew the first number. That number 14 capsule the capsule date by date, the board filled up December 6. finally concluding with Junaid as number 366. Statisticians soon cried foul, arguing that birth dates near the end of the year had inadvertently been clustered toward the top of the bed, making them more likely to be drawn first January. March.
Fair not as events played out, only men with birthdays numbered one through 195 were ultimately called to duty men with the remaining 171 birthdays were home free. America ended the military draft in 1973 and has relied on voluntary enlistment ever since. But for many of the 1000s who watched the drawing with bated breath, memories of that draft lottery telecast remain as vivid as ever. So we need it we need extra I'm dead serious. Pfizer, Pfizer
capsules is perfect. You're saying I can marry. You got all the birthdays. And I'm being facetious. But here what I'm saying is if you want to make it fair, then that way we know today's your birthday. Oh, you got this the destiny. That was a date John today you got to go get everybody born that day. Gotta get the jab. No, no exceptions. No, if we're fighting a true enemy, it's everybody's duty of service to go and get the jab.
So what you're saying is it's of note, it's noteworthy that they chose the manner in which they're doing it because of course is not really an enemy that you can mobilize everybody around or arbitrary It's totally arbitrary. Is this the whole thing? Yeah. So what you're what you're saying is that if your birthday is January for fiber, you're saying that they're just disingenuous because they didn't go this route. Because this is the clear thing to do.
This is because if you're saying we have an enemy we have to a bit it's precedent for it. Yeah, we did it in the 40s. We did it in the 60s. Um, that way we know it, because that's the whole point is everybody's not pulling their weight. We know, billionaires are not don't have their backs, we see what happened. What we saw is we saw political people do it. We saw the President Vice President, you know, we don't know if it was real. We don't know what's in the in if it was getting saline
if the needles really going in. I mean, that's who knows. But there were really only a couple of politicians. We didn't see the ones we'd really wanted to see. And we certainly didn't see any I think I think you're right. It was a true sincere campaign. You would have had Warren Buffett and Bill Gates and Berlinski and Fauci and everybody, you know, lined up in the gym? No wonder kids. Yeah. Yeah, I want whatever birthday it is. Yeah,
eventually we will line them up in a gym. But that'll be for a different reason. Jazz jab day. I mean, that's that's what we're that's how we need to do it. If if that threat Yeah, if we're sincere, agree, as we saw with this case, and well, we're going to go back to Vietnam. And the reason why I brought this up is Veterans Day, and I think Vietnam veterans are getting the short end of the
stick. Oh, my goodness, do they? Because they were brought up a, they were in an unpopular war, similar as it is now to countries in a similar state that it was man, half the people on board. Well, 30% 30%, and then 40 was in the middle. I wish were 30 is winning. And in hindsight, we look at layout, it's a war, we shouldn't fault. And we don't have respect for
those veterans. The reason why this is important to me, because not only am I dealing with the facts thing, I'm dealing with my father and my uncle, both who served in the military during Vietnam. I'm in there, they're thrown away. And all this plays into the psyche of this. I mean, I this is one of my most revealing shows. Because I look at them. It's like, Oh, you want me to take the air for the country? Hmm. And if I'm maimed, he's gonna throw me away. Oh, no, I'm not taking your shot.
That's why I met with it because I saw they did. They stepped up to the duty whether it was their draft and when, when they and when they came back, man, the country was so mind controlled. They were called baby killers. It was horrible for these vets to come back from Vietnam and the Korean War. In the same way, it's gonna be now with the anti Vaxxer. Y'all you want you don't want to it's gonna be this. I hate to say it was gonna be the same way. But I need to put some perspective on
it because I didn't make this point right up front. It's a lot of poor people that were drafted just because of all shades and colors and right, sure. But I have to make the point that black men were hit at a higher percentage with the draft. And 2016 He was playing and more more about that. And this is blessing now. This evening war stories about what it was like to have been young, black and in Vietnam. A high percentage of the men on the frontlines in Vietnam War black. By most accounts, they
had the highest casualties. They say they were fighting two wars, the enemy and discrimination. But they also talk about Battlefield brotherhood and lifelong friendships. This is a film about what it was like to fight that war. What it was like to be in Vietnam, and to be black war stories from the bloods went to nob. They came from the farms and from the ghettos from high schools like this one, Thomas Edison in Philadelphia, they didn't have the money to set out the war in
college or leave the country. They joined the armed forces. They got drafted. Many of them never came back. Yeah, they couldn't go to Canada. They couldn't go to college. You're saying they didn't have rich parents, you know, to help them dodge? And that's kind of like what I was saying now what COVID that say if you got rich parents or whatever, Oh, you don't have to type Jeff, because you don't have to work. Yeah, yeah. Isn't that how convenient is that?
It's like, oh, yeah, we're gonna do it by and you heard that Lizard Man say the king say that where ours is more around college and jobs in this country. Not the stores. Right? So I mean, we've seen this and it likes it. This is the last mandate. We've seen this epic proportion. Um, you know, I I have my whole family, as you know, as military intelligence. Hmm. And what you were saying about your dad and your uncle? And of course, I know both the stories. It hurts
me a lot. It really does. Because my family are also there's some Vietnam veterans. And they're white. And I think they just got the date. They didn't get everything they should have, but they didn't get so shafted. No way. No way. So I know it's a different time, different era, but it was really sad. Make makes me sad. There's a lot of parallels here. And I do this show for the parallels to say, even then you had to convince or you believe
or her this or not, oh, did it go or not? When you came back, you have services available to you, but convinced us you have Agent Orange conventions near saying you are supposed to this kind of thing. It's like, Dude, I did what you asked me to do. I went and paid the price. And like, I want people to understand this because this plays into the psyche of you've told us for the last word since George Florida that this country don't love you. Now roll up my sleeves for? Yeah. No, no, I
can't do it. And it's a lot of people like me that say, No, I won't be the first on the frontline on the battle line. I'll hang back, I'll see how this thing goes. Um, but like I said, that's why I juxtapose it to World War Two, where black men with Asian may get some kill a Nazi. Let's go here. Let's turn it left turn, oh, oh, but that man now a little a little different. And like I say, I want to, I'm doing this. Like I said, this is a mandate show, not specific, just to COVID
mandate. That's why I framed my statement in that way. Because I want to show how people in smoky rooms can make decisions that leave people with lasting impact for the rest of their life. And this is something like I said, I'm living with to this day, there. And I don't think you hear about World War Two, you hear about the modern wars on the desert, you know, those kinds of things, Afghanistan, but you don't hear about Vietnam. I mean, they just they just totally forgot about these
people. Um, but with that said, let's go ahead and get into 27 for the war for most of us, and for you, she's 16 and 17 years old, and you think death is 60 years away from you. But the minute that somebody tells you something to say something that brings death close to your mind, you can ski real ski. And in 19, they gave me orders to go to Vietnam, and my stomach dropped you that's a
fear. It's fear before you even get there is fear. Imagine being on an airplane, getting off walking into your mother's oven. Because that's exactly what it was. When I woke up that plane, my skin broke into a white ash like a big sweat. And here I am in this hot climate, it's at the state for 13 months. I was scared that I was so scared. It's hard to believe I actually waited on myself. I messed on myself. That first four months was terrifying, you know, and it's a fright, that it's
unbelievable. When you see people drop. You don't know what death is because what there was never see death. But at church when a family member died, but the watch guys dropped below you and you're wondering, What am I going to do? fire weapon practices. One thing, it shouldn't show money for real or something else? No kidding. So I'm just laying this out to say this is what not only a race thing, because that's a part of it. But this is
an age thing as well. 1718 year old kids got to take it to go to college. You see their hearts getting blown out. But take it you want to work out you want us to come in just looking at this 1718 year old mo it's like I had to have a job. I had car
insurance you know saying rent whatever else. I'm just trying to, you know, scrape to get by. And it's like, well, you put me in a bad position because I This is not my battle those young kids get over COVID He meant to me was like no you got to get it you got to go fight this war now. Masha oh man and women making decision that can impact young people's lives. And this apparently oh there. Yes. And the parallel is all the way up to the top because wars.
Yeah, sure it was about communism. But that's not really what wars are about. War wars are for the people who financed them on both sides. So it's saddle saddle round saddle round. And so just getting back and I will say this, like, this ain't no pity for the black man in Vietnam, because those being came back troopers. I mean, you're talking about hardened soldiers come out of that. And when they came back when they had, they had came back with a head on straight. But that was
that was a very serious generation of men. A very mass why they had to get them out the house. You talking about black men and knew how to kill efficiently. That's a problem. It's a real problem. Yeah, let's give them don't let's give them heroin. Let's give them this. Let's give them Blaxploitation films. Let's give
them let's let them ride in the theaters from the past show. A lot of Blaxploitation films based off of you know, bloods coming back what he's calling us and coming back from Vietnam.
Yeah. And in is that is that we're Bloods and Crips came from or bloods at least, or leave so I believe part of it was there but like I said, I come from a generation where like, my uncle, my dad, you know, they were in Vietnam, a lot of their friends were in Vietnam, they taught you the DAT resume saying like, you know, that's how they knew like who was cool to her what and because it wasn't all roses over there either in Vietnam as far as not just the
Vietnamese people, but but even their fellow soldiers. And you can see that in the next clip is illegal as a is against regulation. Right if you don't take it off before you come in, you don't get they said the afro was leaking. Am I right or wrong? That's what they said it was. This man, it's a lot of brothers. This man has got an afro. Somewhat of opera was not big. But they want us to wear skin hair. What's it called? That's not my call. They come
over here. They get Alright, Vietnamese girl. She called me a nigger, a nigger Vietnamese girl. I know it's not part of the language. And nobody tell him it's part of a language but I'm gonna go over here. See, we go here we fight. Okay, we fight to defend the water. We drink the land. We go on food on our way of culture. We also fight for sake while Rockefeller Rockefeller Foundation's we fight to protect JP Kennedy's Foundation, only different kinds of foundations that the black
man can partake of. And then we go back, we're continuing to harass. It's not necessarily saying what we heard, this is what we know. We've seen it from the bird's eye point of view, we are the people here now. You see what we heard. Now, just like you said, These people are young people don't know how to I don't know how to word word never game from nothing. You have to learn how to speak it is real telling. very telling,
that tell you that white supremacy is a system. You go over here to fight for your country, you may have a first or you've been drafted, right. You gotta fight to protect their people. And those same people we call you the N word. And is indoctrinated into this system. So now you foreshadow to this now you help people understand better about Muhammad Ali, right. And He's, um, we call it conscientious objection. Objection. Yeah. Yeah, conscientious objection to join
the war. So now we have to get into when one person stands up, because we had to lay this out. Ollie wasn't as popular as he is now. Oh, this is hindsight. Like a butterfly.
In 1966, Muhammad Ali, the heavyweight champion of the world, was banned from boxing in the United States after He refused as a conscientious objector to serve in the army is nothing like going to war with machine guns bazookas hang on a bomb My intention is the box to win a clean fight, but in Wha The intention is to kill, kill, kill, kill and continue killing innocent as a follower of Elijah Muhammad and a minister of the Nation of Islam, he said that the war was against the teachings of his
religion. But the 60s were about your type of creative imagination the ability to find truth your own truth and pursue it and that's what Ollie seemed to embody. Man the history it needs to be retold particularly these years really does it know it they can't. They can't see that's the theme they can't because that shows you the power of the people. When you have one person stand up Yeah. And like I said, Muhammad Ali, he was the he I think he was like the newly champ. He just
beat Sonny Liston. I'm going off my mental memory here. But he like said he wasn't a status established champ. Um, and other issue was they wanted to use him like they used a Joe Lewis Mm hmm. Joe Lewis was very military friendly, because he understood like the Nazi had to be taken out. But even still, Joe Lewis died broke. Yeah, from the IRS. And you're saying this, Grayson.
So I mean, Ali had all this history interesting. And in understanding that he understood what was the feeling on the streets of bikes that you heard in the book like the Bloods, it's like a now yeah, I'm not going to. I'm not going to fight for war, but they were given a short fight for the war, go to jail, go to prison. And not only go to prison, but then you get like a can't hold certain jobs and make a felony bad. No, no, that's, that's just the beginning of the problems, you
tack on the rest of that. So it's this is I'm not equating that what we're going through now, but there are similarities, in the sense of you want people to take part into something that doesn't affect them. For a lot of things that we really a lot of people don't believe in, they don't believe it. COVID is is deadly killer, it is going to kill the young and old to help me in unhealthy, right. Um, but that's kind of how a communist
was communism was sold. So, um, I guess let's go ahead and get into the clip number 29. Near the end of 1967, ali was convicted of graft evasion by a Kentucky court and stripped of his world title by the professional boxing commission. Champ the news from Louisville must have been pretty upsetting was it like to say to the fans of mine, that this very well could be my last fight. He would not
fight again professionally for three years. Only supported himself by giving speeches at college other warriors, Muhammad Ali. It has been said that I have two alternatives, either go to jail, or go to what I would like to say that there is another alternative. And that alternative, that alternative is justice. And if justice prevails, I will neither go to the army, nor will I go to. Finally, in 1970, ali was able to get a blockchain license in
Georgia, the only state without a bunch of commission. The following year, the Supreme Court overturned his conviction for refuge in the draft, Mohammed Ali became even more popular, especially with millions of white Americans who had little in common with or sympathy with the Nation of Islam, but found Muhammad Ali, engaging funny, captivating charismatic, a leader and spokesperson for their own opposition to Vietnam, and their own desire to find meaning in really pursuing your own beliefs
regardless of the consequences. And that's true. I remember my dad talking about caches clay, and how cool it was. And my dad, you know, my dad was a little too old. Vietnam. So he did have he did have to enlist, but he basically stayed in the US of the army, I think in San Antonio Air Force Base, whatever. But I remember him talking about Cassius Clay, like it guys badass, you know, like, oh man
did that. And yeah, so it was it was an example for a lot of people, even those who went the so called those who, who, who took the backs of the day. And it was a groundswell report. I mean, excuse me, a groundswell of support. Yeah. For Ali, one from the quote unquote, community. You're saying, because you had black men every day getting I think it was called one A, that you were saying you were marked as one eight, you could go be sent off.
You had that groundswell. And then you had rich kids at universities and would not say rich, but people would have some means that universities got behind them with the anti war effort. Yeah, this is why they control the athletes the way they do now. Athletes, colleges, educators, the whole name, they know they know where the problems are. And Ali went through a lot of things that doctors are standing
out and putting their life on the line. This to tell them what their perceived truth is about COVID Isn't that interesting? I'm sorry to interrupt there. Because yeah, the parallel of Muhammad Ali and Kyrie or no no, I'm just saying the doctors if you if you don't hold the narrative you can't operate in the state cars box into box you got to have a license. Who better analogy Got it? Got to have a license. The boss is like okay, you want to help
me on narrative? All right. Let me get that license. So we have a Muhammad Ali's now we have doctors are standing up. We have to hear from McCollum alone, Cory Yeah, they're all out there. You got to think to put your your livelihood on the line for what we should just call these super doctors call my Muhammad. So Muhammad Malone, Muhammad Cory That's gonna get them on and, uh, but yeah, we have heroes right in front of us. That's the thing about it. Now
it takes some my way, like, a big platform. But that's why you you, you don't let them even get the light of day and be seen, because even then, there was some shenanigans going on how we got to the actual war in Vietnam. On the morning of August 4 1964, I began my first full time employment in the Pentagon working under Secretary of Defense Robert McNamara. And very first day on the job, all
hell broke loose. A courier came running in with a flash cable, saying that American warships were under attack in the Tonkin Gulf off the coast of North Vietnam. And I was getting these because my boss was already down the hall with McNamara picking targets to retaliate against against North Vietnam. minute after minute or cables can enter three torpedoes have been fired seven we're taking evasive action at about 130 Our Time comes new cable from the commodore of the two ships hold
everything in effect. All previous reports of torpedoes are in question or near hostile actions. against United States ships on the high seas in the Gulf of Tonkin app today required me to order the military forces of the United States to take action and reply. Within days, it was clear and clear that there had been no attack. Yeah, yeah, this is a favorite me and Alex Jones. We love using this as our example of a false flag.
We want to lean on you on this one, as far as I know that that the story as far as Gulf of Tonkin, but you want to kind of fill in some gaps or maybe parallels or what's going on now. Well, you're, you have a second one to this. Second, the second was played at first, and I'll fill in whatever is missing because this seems right. Within days, it was clear and clear that there had been no attack, I shall immediately request the Congress to pass a resolution.
President Johnson was determined to prevent a communist victory in South Vietnam. He twisted the facts of the Tonkin Gulf incident to persuade Congress to give him unlimited authority to
use military force. He then launched a war that would last another 11 years by a number of hostile Senator Fulbright you move the Tonkin Resolution through the Senate did you know anything about this I accepted the story and given to us by the President and Mr. McNamara and Mr. Ross, and I believe General Wheeler, I had no reason at that time and under those circumstances to doubt the validity and the truthfulness of this whole operation, we spare no wider war to wider war.
As I found out day by day in the Pentagon, that was our highest priority, preparing a wider war, which we expected to take place immediately after the election. And that I think, ought to be fought by the boys of Asia to help protect their own land. And for that reason, I have chosen to enlarge the war. And that was
a conscious slide. We all knew that inside the government, and not one of us told the press or the public or the electorate during that election, it was a well kept secret by 1000s and 1000s of people, including me.
Yep, including people I know, probably this was just a bit before I was born about a month, the USS Madox which was on patrol in the region, and they claim that three North Vietnamese torpedo boats, attack them with torpedoes, machine gun fire, and the whole thing turned out to be I think there was like one bullet hole they found much later. And then National Security Agency NSA as our friends, they also had fate, false signal intelligence about a second attack in this Gulf of
Tonkin. And what it all resulted in was the Gulf of Tonkin Resolution. So this was all the fog oh, by the way, you some of you who are old enough to remember the name, Robert McNamara. He was the Secretary of Defense. And these are guys that were all related to the bushes and all the way up the line, much later. And, and from this came the Gulf of Tonkin Resolution, which essentially gave the authority to attack anything that we didn't like, in Southeast Asia that smelled of
communism. And that was, that was all we needed. You know, it was like the Patriot Act of the day. And I was gonna go there next. Now, hearing this, seeing 911 happened, reading about some of the happenings around Pearl Harbor. I think the Lusitania was another kind of maybe false flag. Oh, the Listen, Lusitania. Yes, of course. So I'm just saying like, so. When you come to me, I'm like, Oh, your government would never lie to you. Never.
People. That's where we had common ground from day one. Mo. We, we both agree on the government lying to us and lizard people. This would be our general consensus. But the thing is, it's okay, if you want a lot to me, and it doesn't affect me fine. I mean, I'm just speaking from the normal just everyday person. i That really doesn't bother. It does affect you, but you don't feel the effect. But when you have a lie, and then it impacts me directly. I'm gonna start
looking into things. I'm sure that was true. First, back then that were looking around, hey, this Gulf of Tonkin things kind of stinks. And they were called crazy. They were called misinform, okay. And all you're doing your own research, they were already called conspiracy theorists at that point. This was Lyndon B. Johnson. This is right after Kennedy. And it's an established fact that the CIA launched the term conspiracy theory in order to thwart any citizen journalism
into the JFK killing. So this was fresh, this conspiracy theorists thing was just getting just getting started. And you could use it to great advantage. In ending you wonder why people are hesitant to believe. I know, not me, not me. This is the question. This is the question I asked myself. Fill in the blank didn't happen. How would life be different? Hold on, let me let me back up before you do that. So I was talking to divorce back at some point during the show, and I can't remember exactly
what the topic was. But I said, you know, I did my I did my typical. Well, my why one black friend says, Okay, but what he said, and I think you remember that you said, even Mo's not like, Hey, he's not a regular black guy. And so, because, you know, you're you're different. You're conspiracy, you'd look into conspiracies. It's my feeling, having known you know,
we've we've been talking for what, two years now almost. It's my feeling that there's a Much larger contingent of conspiracy thinking or aware people amongst black Americans, then they're not. Did you hear the bloody ma'am say we fight for Rockefeller and JP Kennedy and it was crazy in 1980 se Christina was born so it was no then it was 90 Maybe 91 We went to Jamaica to a place in mo Bay.
And on the beach was a young guy named David Jamaican. And he would you know, there was barely internet and so he would bring me the one of those like photocopied newspaper. Oh, here's the New York Times like three pages photocopied so you could re kind of read the paper, and then the paper would come later. And as we were getting to talking Key said, Oh, no, I read this. I read the paper. This is why I love working the beach. I
read the paper every single day. And he worked there for you know, he was a young guy already worked there for eight or nine years. And he said, you know, the world is and I'd never heard this before. This time though. I was not into this. I was doing other things. I was MTV guy. He's like, Oh, man, don't you know about the Trilateral Commission, and the Bilderberg Group? And I'd never heard of these things before. Oh, yes. It's how the world is in this was a kid on the beach in
Jamaica. And I've had to think of David many, many times, I said, Oh my God, you know, there's so many people have their eyes and ears open that we're just not aware and wanted to be the biggest vehicles for quote unquote conspiracy theories have been hip hop. Yes. RZA from Wu Tang was been talking about a deadly vaccines. Mm hmm. So I mean, this none of these catches are flat footed. And this is like I say, um, I am not normal. Just to say that I'm not a normal
person for anybody. But um, yeah, it's just that I you have to do is not believe this goes back to what you're saying. Let me back up a little bit. You just said it yourself. These people the 40% they believe whatever is put in front of him. The news, the headlines. When you stop looking and believe in the headlines, and just like, actually sit back and pay attention to what's going on. what's being said, is bullshit. Excuse my language. You're saying like, Jessie smell it?
Oh, that's a good example. He got attacked by two or three white guys in Chicago and 30 degree below weather. Ah, ha, no, but I mean, I remember it turned out to be black guys. I was even funnier. Yeah, I'm just saying though. I'm just gonna tell you how I process that. I saw on the news earlier this morning. Here's how you process Oh, bullshit. This Chicago, the so cold that they had to sit in the rear of the train rails on fire. And he went out for subway in that kind
of weather and got attacked in the maggot country. I just flipped it and put the two and two together. It's like I don't need to read. You're saying any reports. bullcrap. And Chicago not so much maggot country? And I'm gonna say it but we're not going out for subway if we got to like the rails on fire. Uber Eats best meals but yeah, me so here we are conspiratorial boss survival.
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So we go from one champ Muhammad Ali to another champ Floyd Mayweather. Kerry, what's up, I know you're going through a lot. We had a chance to hang out in 2016. When you represented America when you represented the red, white and blue. You only want to be treated fair. I was gonna post some on one of my social media pages. But I decided to do it the old school way and read it out to you. Because you're a great person, great father,
great athlete. And you believe what you believe. America is the land of the free freedom of speech, freedom of religion, and supposedly freedom to choose. Never be controlled by money. I respect you for happiness and integrity can be in your own man. A free mind makes its own choices and enslaved my followers the crowd, stand for something or fall for anything. One man can lead a revolution to stand up and fight for what's right. One choice one word one action can change the world it's
crazy how people hate you for being a leader. I hope your actions encouraged many others to stand up and say enough is enough respect to you carry power to the yeah I played this on no agenda to it's amazing there was I heard like zero cancel noise about Floyd Mayweather no one said anything about this? Because he got his own money. He's got a few money. I mean, like what are my own money like? He goes fight get paid. There's no There's no Nike cutting them a check. There's no
li cutting them a check. He has direct, no general revenue generating power, which is what we're trying to do here. As far as we don't have to kiss up to networks or whatever else to say, Oh, are you gonna look over his shoulder Boulais phone's gonna ring. Cuz I said this I said that. So yeah, that's why you don't hear anything about him. But he brought up Kyrie Irving and if one person stands up, you know it can it can be a problem for the for the establishment. And this is why I
was watching the bronze so closely. And man, I don't think we talked about this but but the Bron Bron wanted to do this so bad, so bad, because he's never gonna be Michael Jordan. He's never gonna be the greatest basketball player ever. He tried to be Muhammad Ali with the social justice nancies but they were very milquetoast. Um If he would have took that shot when not to if he would not have took the shot and took the chance to say you know what, I'm gonna do like carry Dina said no, I'm not
gonna take it. I don't think it's right to force people to take it. You could take it if you want to kick it it easily been Muhammad Ali. Easily. So what what was his problem? He's just pussy too controlled. Oh, man. No, I mean, that kind of thing that that'll get you arc aside. I mean, I mean, the use the reference that'll get you out of here. Don't get don't know. Don't get it twisted. I mean, LeBron got a bootleg phone too. They can be wrong. And I think it's going right now.
And we saw we saw this kind of thing with when he was doing that it was a Braun pushes a coach LeBron does this the I got documented. So you go to the YouTube channel. I did lives and things watching him cuz I knew it was like, that's what took him so long to say he was gonna take it. He was trying to see which way the you know, the wind was gonna blow. But he had to succumb to the you know, the powers that be. And I must say this, Kyrie Irving. He's always been anti LeBron. And this is a
natural thing for him to do. I mean, he he won't he marches to the beat of his own drum. Same thing with Aaron Rodgers. Their their scene is no like, thinkers in a bad way. think too much. They don't see my thinking carry. And you can hear this in the next clip, how Joy Reid critiqued him for his anti vaccines.
The new anti Vax poster child Brooklyn Nets guard Kyrie Irving went on Instagram Live on Wednesday to ramble I mean, speak time since his team told him he was barred from playing until he got the shot. You think I really want to lose money. You think I really want to give up on my dream to go after the championship in order to be on a team. I have to be vaccinated. I chose to be unvaccinated. And that was my choice. This is not a political
thing here is not about the NBA. It's not about any organization to live by my life and what I'm choosing to do. Irving went on to say more a lot more telling fans that he is taking a stance against those who have lost their jobs over vaccine mandates. But then a new development emerged Irving's anti Vax tirade was somehow compared to wait for it. Oh, just you wait for the activism of the greatest of all time Muhammad Ali with Nick's alum Stephon Marbury saying Ali would
be proud. Okay, okay, who's triggered right now? Because I am for sure all the way triggered, triggered Knicks fan right here. Not probably mentioned this before on this show, but Muhammad Ali is like literally my personal hero, my favorite athlete of all time, I was obsessed with him in boxing growing up only to become further captivated by who he was outside the ring and international icon and lifelong
fighter for human rights and equality. Which is why I'm going to do my very best to purge this comparison from the internet's for good. Is not the modern day Muhammad Ali. First of all, she has zero standing to say this. Second of all, we might rival her audience in Lin numbers. listeners. It's it's close. I mean, what this is, okay. Is it was anyone else talking this nonsense or just joy read? No. The whole the whole media? Of course media.
She's the I don't watch that, of course. But yeah. Oh, my goodness. The questions were what is what is what was he doing this? We made it very clear. He said, I'm doing this for standing up for people just not given a choice. Oh, it's not it's not about the vaccine. Not about you're saying you About choice for him. Yeah, it's the point that people shouldn't lose their jobs because they choose one way or the other. That's, that's That's it. And they tried to make him the bad guy he didn't carry
haven't really said much at all. And what I'm saying about is the way he can be the Ali is nothing that carries doing cuz I don't think Muhammad Ali even publicize what he was doing. His people gravitated towards him and say, I believe in what you're not doing. Let me support you. You see, I'm saying that with college kids, that was the people in the neighborhood, it's
like, Man, I guess go Ollie, you're saying, Ah, let's go. So, um, that that's the thing is, uh, I guess it's funny that she can get out here like, she's like, You heard her say his tirade, Carry, carry, keep going. He's very common, like soft spoken. Um, but they made him they made him the bag. And it's for a reason. Because of some of the stances he had. He's easily to marginalize. And you're going to hear more of that in 37.
He's a famous person using his famous person platform to put others at risk of a deadly airborne disease that has wreaked havoc on the human race and disproportionately on people who look like Kyrie Irving. Muhammad Ali, on the other hand, took a political stance as a conscientious objector to the Vietnam War, saying that he refused to go to war and shoot my brother or some darker people or some poor hungry people in the mud for big powerful America. I we risk going to
prison because of his stance. Prison. There is the other thing about only supported vaccines, even doing a PSA for New Yorkers in 1978. The law says if your kids don't have the shows for dangerous diseases like mumps, measles and polio, they aren't getting in the school. The law also says they must go to school so you have no choice. Get your kids their shots. So now No, Kyrie Irving is the literal opposite of Muhammad
Ali. He is a person who once said the world is flat and it was now being used for the alt right and Maga army like Ted Cruz for his incredible courage, who called Colin Kaepernick rich spoiled athlete for taking a knee against police killing people who look like Kyrie Irving. Hey, professional Karen Laura Ingraham show Kyrie Irving shut up and dribble are not being a contrarian does not make you an intellectual. It does not make you a hero, it most certainly does not make you
anything near the greatest. In fact, it makes you and those using you as an anti Vaxxer Liberty pawn the absolute worst. Okay, this is probably the most crazy clip I've heard from joy read. I mean, I've heard a lot. It's, it's a close tie with her and Nikki. This is really Yeah, yet but but I mean, you're you're bringing in Muhammad Ali universally loved black and white and red and yellow. Worldwide. Yes, very, very, very risky strategy.
This joy read needs to be taken to court. You know, I'm saying, Well, here's the thing, Joy is holding it as you made reference to her ratings. And this is where people like her are very dangerous, when they're in if they're earning and the paradox of it. In hopes to keep her job. This is what she does. Go Yeah. You see it now. And how was that keep her job that she loves. She's willing to go out and do hit pieces like this. I think that she's so bad that she she probably is all in on
this. She and she she may look I what I do know about jewelry because I see her almost every day. She's always changing her look. Yeah. And but I mean, like severely. She got the different wig on she's doing it. You know, she one day she's, she's Caribbean. Next day. She's African American. Then she just African. And then she's something like I don't even recognize like, like a sponge. Like a really weird weird vibe she's got going on. And so she has no identity, no identity. So
she's an identity list person. And she goes through life, I think unhappy. She's the female Don Lemon. Yes, yes. Yeah. And those people are dangerous when you don't have talent to hold you where you're at. Yeah, I agree with that. Then you push agenda. Yeah. And that's the thing about it. And like I said, that's the thing about Kyrie is this key said I will I'm okay. He didn't sign up for this. It's New York, they said he can't play NBA. That's
not his employer. New York says you can't play, please. Okay, I just want to play home games. So then the net new Brooklyn Nets say, Well, you know, what, if you only want don't want to play home games, how about you no play at all. Now, this is the dumbest thing I've ever heard. Because Kyrie is kind of important to the team, isn't he? You would think so. I mean, he's won maybe top 1015 basketball players in the NBA right now. Even higher, I mean, who went pends on what you
value in the list. Um, but the thing was, the NBA was known for sitting players for rest. You played a night you don't play tomorrow night you play in the night, and the bronze one popularized it. But I mean, who really ran with it was, uh, the Spurs, they were known, like, I mean, the NBA had to even get on them, like, Hey, we got we are ad dollars here, you can't just sit your players like that. Um, so this is baked into the NBA of sitting out every other night, or what they call it something
they call it rest or resting your players. So I mean, cuz you got 82 games in an NBA season. They're not important that they like to sit out some. But it's like, we're going to make you choose or you don't want to play. Okay, we're going to not let you play at all. So it's the as the as the NBA is wrapping this up in the nest, it's wrapping this up, and then they use their propaganda machine to smear him. And it but it didn't stop there. Um, hold on,
hold on, hold on. I got a I got a question when it comes to Okay. So resisting you know, there's going to be there we are all about resisting this this mandate. When it comes to basketball and football. Do you see fans at people who really love the game such as you do? Really like? Absolutely turning it off and shutting it and and letting that be known that you're just not going to participate in their games? Or is it is the lure still too big? Do you still got to be a part of it?
Here's the problem. And I'm speaking from my personal experience. People are not really into sports, people are into the communal aspect of sports. Like I said, that big sports keeps me tying in with my 11 other guys in my fantasy league, that we have something that we could buy, you know, a laugh and joke about not sitting down watching the game. It's not that's not the point. I'm so and then sports gambling is another big one. It's why people can't really turn away because it's a
lot of money being passed around. But I'll say this, um they're the leafs have been very smart and picking their targets. Because you notice air rot is not the only unvaccinated person in NFL. Right, Kyrie Irving is not the only unvaccinated person as let's get these quirky kind of antihero kind of people. And we'll beat up on them. So that's why you don't see kind of fans
walking away from it. Okay. Which is weird. I mean, it's, once again, I'll say it if it's not in the NBA, that's causing Kyrie not to play is New York was putting the pressure on him right? putting the pressure on the team to preempt team puts the pressure on him. So that that's how we're at what point is one of these super fans just go go apeshit and go post themselves?
Is is a possibility? Um, it's a real possibility. But I would think this, the jersey sales will tell the tale is Kyrie Irving and Jersey selling more than the average guys Aaron Rodgers Jersey selling more than average? I mean, he's kind of competent. He didn't even play, play football. The number one selling jersey, so Right, right. People are gonna support and that's why I said he could easily become Muhammad Ali, not
in the statute. And I hope people understand what I'm saying is that people weaponize celebrities for their calls. Right. And I think that that is waning. I think the influence of celebrities is completely disappearing. It's disappearing along with the ratings, a lot of them in the lockdowns and we're seeing them their true selves. Heroes have come out of that people that were like, holy crap, this this man or woman is fantastic. But the majority is like, Wow, you're a real dick. I
always knew it, but now I see it. So it's changing. Unless it's something political that we like, and that's the thing. That's how we're picking out celebrities now. Like what's the audio? Yeah, okay. Yeah, you like you like you like that? Okay, I like you, right? I mean, you you turn away look at Nikki, I mean they had Fox News that was Nicki Minaj. So that lets you know it's bigger than what you bring
to the table. It's about what's your message. Um, and that's why I carry is very dangerous in this situation because like I said, carry not may not be a big name at home. He is but not like a bronze statue. But when you talk about going to China basketball is a religion over there. Yeah. That's why they had to keep saying LeBron and rap. So this next clip I found very
disheartening because Kyrie Irving was attacked. I use that word understand purposely but attacked by Rolling Stones, and Kareem Abdul Jabbar Rolling Stone magazine, and Kareem Abdul Jabbar sold out, oh boy. Their flags for the establishment now fighting to uphold vaccine conscription. Kyrie Irving is Muhammad Ali, a conscientious
objector, resisting an unjust culture wars. Over the weekend, Rolling Stone published a long winded hit piece on Earth, and other NBA players who were reluctant to take the experimental COVID vaccines. According to Rolling Stone, anti Vax NBA players are steaming in the way of the league imposing a vaccine mandate. This is a bad look for a league that prides itself on being left of Karl Marx. Irving is seen as the leader of the anti vaxxers who are pushing around the NBA.
According to the writer Matt Sullivan. The article painted Urvi as a nutjob it criticized him for liking posts from an Instagram account that previously posted messages alleging conspiracy theories against black people. The magazine trotted out 74 year old Abdul Jabbar a 1960s Radical who supported Ali to reprise the role of David Susskind, the 1960s television host who shredded Ali for refusing
induction into the military. Wow saying quote, this is from Abdul Jabbar, the NBA should insist that all players and staff are vaccinated or remove them from their team that's new Wow sellout. Talking to Rolling Stone Yeah, ma'am. This is gonna get some people if they keep this up and that's that's why I say he can become you know, the the the market of all this this attacks? Well, yeah, he can become the
Vic he can become the victim. I mean, in a good way. As far as you know, when they pick up on carry, why they're picking on carry. All he said was he didn't want to play. Take the jab, and he's doing it to support the worker. I mean, this is the we always talk about the celebrities and athletes standing up for the little guy. Now I can say this is Kyrie he could be doing it for his own reasons. I don't, I'm not that naive. But in this information world that we're in, will take
every, like anything we can get. Yeah, that's what they don't understand about it. It's like well, Nikki, we wrote her far as we could and now we got Kyrie and we're robbing him as far as we can. And that's, it sounds cold and calculating, but that's how the information will works. It's like long as we can work together to our common cause we will you tap out and we saw this, like I said, with Trump, when Trump started saying vaccines cause people to boom he heard that's power that's power
other people. That's real power from the groups of people. So ultimately, people have the power and the sooner they realize it, the better. That's why they don't want us to wake up and that's why they attack Kyrie Irving because he's he can ignite a fire and you know, even what we're doing here, we're taking on the big guys. In we're consuming people hours of people's listening
time. They can't get that back. That's right. I can't you know, that's that's where the real power is that they're tuning in, and they're tuning out or wherever they were used to replace whatever they replaced this with a listen with here with. So um, Kareem Abdul Jabbar. So, I don't know if you ever seen this picture or not. It was called the Civil Rights
Summit. And when Ali came out, it was like all the big time black athletes were around him an airline they painted it as oh, we're here to support Olli. Have you ever seen that picture before? I'm gonna go look for it right now. summit a. But with that said, it was a big PR stunt. And don't take my word for it. Bob Abram on a famed boss and promoted, I was telling the story. So you did promote a number of Ollie fights in your 2525 of wow. And I read that
when Ali refused induction. And he took the 43 million he took, he accepted his ban, that you were able to pull a few strings. And you got it to where through the Lyndon Johnson administration, if he had done some appearance work well, that he could have continued to fight. This is a great one of my dear, dear friends is Jim Brown. And Jim was the guy who
introduced me Dally and got me into the business. So now when I lead takes the position that he's not going to go into the service, I had a partner in my law firm, who was the treasurer of the Democratic Party. And we worked out a deal with Lyndon Johnson Halley to put a uniform on, just through some exhibitions at military bases and continue your professional career. So I go to gym. And this was the time when we were, you know, working hard to get black people into business,
particularly athletes. So the the, the idea I had with Jim Brown, we had those days, we had closed circuit exhibitors having regions of the country and it was very lucrative, and football players were making like 10,000 a season. So I said, Jim, get all the athletes together, the black athletes, let them talk to Ali, and convince him to take this deal. And I will divide up the country and make these guys my regional exhibitors. Hmm. I, of course did not know about this. I'm looking at the
picture right now. We got Russell Ali, brown and Abdul Jabbar right in the front. Mm hmm. So these are the people like saying this is people that allegedly supported Ali. And you heard Ali could easily took a deal with the government and did the charade of you know, going around, he didn't have to put the uniform on and just go to some exhibitions, you know, to kind of let us know kind of stuff. Yeah. Like the Harlem Globetrotters. Yeah. And he'd
been cool. Where he didn't tell you to do it. He didn't do it. Yeah. And there's more to this story, then you know what this story looks like in this picture? You just look at it in the context is like, looks like last supper almost. It doesn't have that vibe. It does. Sure does. Yeah. Well, who's Judas 40. So Jim got Willie Davis. There weren't that many black guys in the NFL there. But the all of them that were there the good ones. He brought to that meeting, Bill Russell came Lew
Alcindor was clear. What was it? Yeah. Aba was a college student. He came. And the idea of Bobby Mitchell I remember, the idea was to convince Sally to take the deal. Now, Bill Russell, when he reported he'd reported accurately that that was the purpose of the meeting. And they started talking Dally and then he got up and talked for two hours and convince them that what he was doing was correct, not going in and so forth. And they all agree