Moe Facts with Adam Curry for pril 27 2021. This is episode umber 62. And they're strong orces at work, ladies and entlemen. It's always America, e get this show out at all. I'm dam curry in Austin, Texas. And n the other end It is my friend r. Moe facts. Moe it's been uite the day. A little bit of n or you could call it remlins. But I don't know, I'm tarting to think that this orces at work here that ometimes just want to make sure ur show does not start.
It can't stop us. So it only can delay us. But we'll get it done. This is true. Hey, Mo it's been it's been way too long. I went on vacation. So apologies that I was out of pocket. And then we we got resituated. And we knew there was some stuff coming up that we probably wanted to discuss. So it's kind of good that we had an opportunity to wait a little bit longer for today's show how you been though? what's what's been going on with you.
Everything's going pretty good. Um, just some, you know, live stuff coming at you. But other than that, you're saying it's going pretty good. Excellent, man. Excellent. Well, I am very excited to be talking to you again. I missed the show. It's like no agenda, doing that for 14 years. And like I can actually turn that off a little bit. But I like talking to him. Oh, man, I've really missed that. So
it's good. It's all good. Well, in the meantime, I have put together a nice bag for so if you want to get to that we'll we can Yeah, you bet. I'm going to reach over here. Let me get the the wheel of topics here. Hold on a second. Round, the round goes where it stops. Nobody knows the only person who really knows what the topic for today is. Facts. Let's see what the 62 is going to be all about. cults are as cults do. Cold All right.
Yes, that's unexpected. That's a little curveball cults are as cults do. Yes. So we ought to talk about the code or Wolk, aka the Holy cow, um, and the George Florida case, and I said I would not talk about the case instead had wrapped right, and now it's time to talk about it. I guess we could start off where we left off and show for the politics and jumping right to number two. On Monday, May 25, Minneapolis police officers respond to a
call about a customer using a counterfeit $20 bill. Officers arrive and pull the suspect 46 year old George Floyd from his car, placing him in handcuffs. minutes later, officers lay Floyd down beside the rear tire of the police car. An officer later identified as Derek travian places his knee and Floyd's neck. As Floyd tells officers he can't breathe. bystanders plead for stopping his breathing right there. After approximately three minutes, Floyd becomes
unresponsive. Officer Chaldean continues to keep his knee and Floyd's neck until paramedics arrive approximately five minutes later. The incident is the latest in a series of racially charged confrontations in recent weeks, including the death of Mr. Dougherty, the police shooting a Briana Taylor, and a 911 column at a blackbird watcher in Central Park. Oh, man, that was Episode 40. Seems like so long ago. So what we're not going to do is traumatize people with a blow by
blow the case. We're going to look at this whole situation from beginning to end, how it played out and the symbolism that went on with this whole situation. There's something that I call that two things I called going back and listen to these clips and this is why we revisit those clips because it's the propaganda is so thick that you miss different points about it. In this clip, did you listen to the pronunciation of the officer's name? Maybe just like run it. I think maybe catching
the first 10 seconds I want you to hear it because okay. Pick it up. On Monday, May 25 Minneapolis police officers respond to a call about a customer using a counterfeit $20 bill. Officers arrive and pull the suspect 46 year old George Floyd from his car, placing him in handcuffs. minutes later, officers lay Floyd down beside the rear tire of the police car. And officer later identified as Derrick Robin. Robin instead of Shogun travian. Hmm, interesting.
That was the this is the first account of hot Yes, yes. So we're going to talk about That but first I want to talk about the date. This was Memorial Day. Yeah. And we didn't stress that point. When we've covered the you know, the the mayhem in the process and everything that happened after the after the the murder of George Floyd, um, that being Memorial Day and then later, they're trying to push this. This is According to ABC
in Raleigh. Oh, ABC 11 as the day of enlightenment, oh, yes, the Georgia Florida Memorial symbol on Memorial Center website says they want may 25 to be commiserated as the day that the world came together for a common purpose and open the world's eyes to the plight of black Americans and they want it to be referred to as the day of enlightenment that we didn't discuss that it was saying, Oh, we didn't we didn't. But when I went back and listened to clip I was like, Calvin, that's weird
end it was right in front of my eyes. What had happened here. We know him as What now? Derek show joven Yeah. And Shelvin is spelled just like chauvinism. Yes, it is as ch a UV you know, chauvinism. chauvinism, word for word come from. The term chauvinism. Allah is French and dates back to the 1830s there was a man named Nicholas Chavez. So the story goes he was the most loyal soldier in Napoleon's Grand Army. It was said that he was
born in rush for around 1780 and enlisted at the age of 18. He served with such dedication Napoleon himself presented Chauvin with a military award, the saver of honor. Chauvin was badly wounded in the wall, but remained a fanatical bonapartist even after Napoleon's exile in 1815. And the restoration of the monarchy is louder than fashionable obsession with the
good old days of empire made him into an object of mockery. And his name was given to a ridiculous character in a popular play of 1831 the word cross the channel and began to be used in English around 1870. Then, Shogun is a meant belligerent patriotism just as it did rather lightly English word jingoism. Wow, okay, never expected it to go this direction, Mo. Well, we're going there early today. Right out the box with this, because
it was right in front of my face. And I didn't even see it until I listen to the old clip of how they originally said his name. And then they just switched it. And this is where I need to lean on you in there. They actually have readings of how names are read, right? Correct. Mm hmm. Yeah. What does that call when they phonetic phonetic? Oh, no, no, no, I'm saying when the when the media passes around said we're going to refer to this person. Style Guide it's the
style guide. Yes. That's what it is. Yeah. So somewhere along the way. He became went from chosen to show him and we look at who is shelving is in the definition of his name. It's very hot with us. Very subtle, but wow. Oh, the good old days of the Empire and belligerent patriotism. Wow, just spell it spell. It's a spell right off the bat. I'm starting to recognize them now. Yeah, well, let's go ahead and dive into part two of that clue.
Show when is meant belligerent patriotism, just as it did in France, rather lightly English word jingoism. By the 1930s. Its meaning had evolved and referred to a fanatical devotion to any cause and hostility towards outsiders. It began to be used as journalism and plays particularly when the unequal
position of women in society was being discussed. But it was in the 1960s and 70s that the use of the word chauvinism really took off amongst feminists, the term male chauvinist pig became popular turning up in films and magazines, including playboy. use of the word chauvinist peaked in the 1980s. Other terms like sexist and misogynist, have risen in use more recently, but it is President Trump's slogan America first. That really harks
back to the original meaning of chauvinism. The apocryphal Nicholas Chauvin might even recognize if he ever really existed that is ever really existed. Oh, now, do we have any other examples of Derek jovens name pronounced that way, or is this the only one? There's only one and this like I said, this is the one the first account that I pulled for, for a show 40 this that was the official timeline for NBC News, right? And that's how they
pronounced it chosen. Um, but he had become Derek Shelvin, and you set a spell and you're correct. And the appropriate term is called a sigil. That's something go past your conscious mind to your subconscious mind. A sigil. You call that a C? Yes, I think it's si G. l. syndrome. And what it does is like a meme, it goes past. It's been running for our face this whole time. Wow. But when you look at it's like oh
Shelvin chauvinist. And then you rang your bell? What did you catch when you rang your bell? chauvinist, pig chauvinist pig Yes, chauvinist pig and then later of course, they brought in President Trump. Yeah. chauvinist pig Yeah, police police officer. Oh, Mo. This is this is too much coincidence. Well, now we got to go and look at why do people sometimes call police officers pigs.
unlike so many other nicknames for the police, such as cops in the first this particular term has a relatively well known origin. Starting around the 16th century, a pig began being used in English as a derogatory term for people whether the police or
not, as it is still sometimes used today. It took about three more centuries that this particular insult inevitably became popular nickname for often self police officers with the first documented reference to this being in the dictionary of bookish slang, university wit and pickpocket eloquence published in London in 1811. In it the person in line in question is the pigs frisked my penny and nailed my screws, meaning the officers searched my house and seized my pig blocks.
So what I'm just saying is when you see his name Derek Shelvin, do you think chauvinist pig now, when I was growing up, I heard my mom say this sometimes Did you ever hear mom in fact, say that talk about someone being a chauvinist pig? Yes, yeah. Yes, I've heard both terms. Actually. Not by not not, not by mama facts. No, no, no. But now I've heard both. But when you put it together, it tells how they want to paint
him. And it's fair. It's so interesting, because I do recall thinking this one it all first came down like oh, that's that's a coincidence. Shogun chauvinist. And that's a belligerent patriot that long for the good old days. Yeah. Who is hostile to outsiders? I mean, I'm holding on holding on for dear. Opening up like that. We got to go back to show 40 NBC News two. On Tuesday, May 26. The Minneapolis Police Department releases a statement saying Floyd physically resisted officers.
What we saw was horrible. This man's life matters. The mayor announces all four officers involved in the arrest have been fired. And the Minnesota bureau of criminal apprehension and the FBI announced they will also be investigating the arrest. To be clear, the Department of Justice has made the investigation in this case, a top priority. Hundreds of people gathered Minneapolis on Tuesday night to decry the death of Floyd police officers in riot gear fire rubber bullets at the crowd.
So I want to just want to count we're just laying out what happened for people that maybe have been under a rock and I don't know about this case. And it ended up with Derek Chauvin getting convicted with the max amount of counts that he could get in this case. Um, but I feel personally there was no justice. And I'm going to lay out that well. We know what that word
means. Wetlands who was right well, there is another term that I've picked up on and I'm sure this will come later down the road but this term accountability has yes equity as well. Yeah, equity. I know but I keep hearing accountability and how does this work into it but we'll get there I guess. Yeah, well, we'll get there but what I want to say is this that the reason why I don't feel like there's justice because no matter what you how you look what lens you looked at this
case from the appropriate charge, and ORS. Reason for his death was not fully in Vietnam was not investigated but wasn't fully explored. It was To fully explore because, well, we were okay. We were counting. He had three co conspirators if you want to use that word now, I mean, since he's been convicted, right, it was the three other officers. But what they did was, they're nowhere to be found because one I don't think
they're good for optics. One guy looks kind of black is Asian, he's just saying so these don't, they were just like, let's put out the belligerent patriot. Put him up front, what we're not exactly for sacrifice. And a lot of this show is gonna be surrounded about morale sacrifice, because there were two sacrifices that happened in this situation. And we're gonna explore both of them, but I guess we can go into the new details on officers.
Those alarming new details emerging about the other three officers on the scene with Derek Chauvin during George Floyd's last moments. Alex Flores joins us with the latest from Minneapolis on that part of the story. Good morning, Alex. Hey, good morning, Amy. Well, for the first time we may be learning what the defense argument for these other officers involved in the case may be now those other officers at tau tau J. Alexander King and Thomas lane all made their first appearance in court
Thursday. They're each facing multiple charges, including aiding and abetting second degree murder, to have them in court shifting blame to veteran officer Derrick Chauvin, the one scene in that horrific video digging his knee into Floyd's neck, the attorneys for King and Lane telling the judge that they were both rookie officers when the incident occurred with George Floyd both on the job full time for only a handful of days, Kings attorneys saying he told the other officer quote,
you shouldn't do this. And lns attorneys saying he asked joven Shall we roll him over and that he performed CPR on Floyd in the ambulance. Now, Chevron has not yet appeared in court. But those other three officers are being held on a million dollar bail. His own team sent him up the river. Yeah. And from the imaging and the recording of the of the situation, there was three offers with their knee and his back at one time or another. So let me let me let me illustrate where I'm going with
this. No matter how you saw the case, because I know this country is very divided on this case. Half of them say that the guy was guilty of murder. And the other half says, Well, it was other factors that we will explore later that were played into the death of George fluid, which when i'm saying is no matter which way you fall on this, either. If you're gonna say he was murdered, then you have to look at these other options as well. Yeah, certainly based upon the video evidence, and
yeah, what I'm just saying. So what we're gonna look at first, if you fall on that side, this is why you didn't receive the appropriate definition of justice. And then we'll explore the other half later in the show, if you think it failed the other way. Because what I'm saying is the way I saw this case play out, there was no justice in this case, at all, at all. I mean, that one was playing. Wow. Now, this next clip comes from show 40 and this is judge Jeanine Pirro and she's
on Fox News. And she tends to be on the conservative side a little bit and this is a little bit and what she does is she what she's gonna point out as what I how I felt about the situation. So people can be clear on that. And it's just strange that I'm gonna say this is very few people that think that they're Shelvin didn't play a role play a role in the death of George Floyd. Now, what's like on that spectrum? What was
his level of responsibility and culpability? Um, but I think we're all it was on board and i'm i'm using her clip is even on Fox News. They allowed her to go out here and say this. So that goes to show you that it was quite clear something was amiss in this whole situation, folks, this is not just recklessness. This is not just approved indifference to human life. This is not just an
intentional murder. This is premeditated murder one. Chauvin was reminded over and over again, that he was snuffing the life out of George Floyd. He was reminded by George Floyd begging and wailing for his life. He was reminded by the witnesses and passers by, he was reminded as he felt the life of George Floyd being expelled under his knee. This is not a man who didn't
comprehend or understand the depravity. Again and again he was called upon to stop to check to roll them off his back to check his pulse to see that his nose was bleeding to put him in the car. At every one of these points, his attention was drawn to what he was doing. And he had a chance to stop. Every one of these alerts was a trigger that alerted him to the consequences of his actions, and was a point of premeditation, after which he made the conscious decision to continue.
Now just say that when, when this went down, I called my buddy in Colorado, who's a EMT. And I said, Man, look at this, because he had taught me this term A long time ago, which is excited delirium. Okay, and he deals with that a lot. And essentially, it's someone who's overdosing on heroin or some kind of opioid, but may have had either math or or some PCP, you know, some other stimulant. And he says, what what happens is, is really crazy. He'll bring people back to life with Narcan,
you know, so a little, little shot in the nose there. And they, first of all, they wake up, they're extremely angry. And they're, they've like superhuman strength, because they're all hyped up on on some kind of amphetamine, is really, really difficult. And they're very, he says, at that point, they have almost superhuman strength, they often have to throw a hood on him, because they're speeding and biting and going nuts. And he said that he says that guy, before there was even trouble.
He says, from what he saw as a professional, he said that guy was already dying, before anything happened before he was on the ground before any of that stuff. So that's, that's correct. That's the part that that I know, from, from what I've heard from, I think, pretty reliable sources. And that was me, I heard that count on several occasions. But I'm gonna I am not speaking from a lawyer because I am not a
lawyer. I'm speaking from a person that went to the Law School of Law and Order, and court TV, movies, and the real stuff. Know what, because what I'm saying that that is what shapes people's perception of the law. And I'm not, I'm not in this case. I'm not here to debate as far as the technicalities, or what the legal mind say, or you're still saying, I'm saying you have two people. And one is on one side saying it was murder one, straight up and now and all the
other cops should be charged same as him. And I'll explain why in a minute. And on the other side, you have people that say more what you're saying is, he was dying anyway. And the drugs killed him. Yeah, let's just put it out there. Now, somewhere in between there is the truth. But no matter if you believe on the one hand or the other hand, neither one of those received justice in this case. That's my point I'm trying to
make I gotcha. Nobody can leave this case happy. Because if he truly did die of drug overdose, then we need to go and find out who saw him the drugs and charged them with murder one, because we seen this with what's the guy's name? I'm kind of chubby guy. Actor wore glasses. He died of a heroin overdose. Philip Seymour Hoffman? Correct. When he died? They went into rescue for other people for his death. Yeah, well, he was a Hollywood actor after all.
But this is not just he should George floors to get the same justice that he got. He's still saying, I'm saying nobody can be happy in this. Yeah. And if you're going to put this if you're going to hang this on Derek Chauvin, the blue line needs to stick with him, that goes to show you that they wrote on him and say, no, it's all on him, which we know this. From my perspective, this was all I wouldn't say. I'm not one of those people that go out, say, Oh, they plan this on this date,
they do have this happen. There are there are that group out there saying that I don't really fall in that group. I don't poopoo that as well. I mean, who knows crazy This world is. But what I'm just saying is they looked at all these things. And they highlighted all of these things. Because guess what, when you look at it, it's perfect balance on both sides, because you can look at it through whatever lens you look through,
and you're going to be pissed off at it. And that was the whole purpose. That's always that's Yeah, that when you assume that to be the point, right. That's why I said that's why no justice really had because if it was just going to recount this woman, cuz I know people are a lot in their emotions right now. And that's why I didn't talk about this case. You're saying from this perspective until it was over? Because I wanted people to see
how it played out. And you have a conservative judge here, Jeanine Pirro on Fox News, which is, which is to believe to be conservative. We know kind of saying we run it, we know who's really Exactly. But what I'm saying is, they're the right hand wing on Bird, and for her to come out and say that, yeah, that kind of lets you know that's that's the string. That's the furthest that
string you can go to. And that's on Fox News. Yeah. Like and then on the other side, you know, if he wasn't killed by the cop, then we need more people arrested and brought to justice and talk about murder one, you might be saying, well mo murder one Seriously? Yes, Number eight, I spent the last 16 years of my life in prison serving time for murder. That's right murder. But the thing is, I didn't kill
anyone. And don't just take my word for it. The judge, the prosecutor, and the jury, in my case, all agreed that I hadn't killed anyone. But they still sentenced me as the actual killer and put me in prison with 25 years to live. Alright, I want to tell you about something called the felony murder rule. It's a glitch in our criminal justice system, a glitch we only have in the United States. And it basically says this glitch. felony murder rule, any death, which occurs during the
commission of a felony is first degree murder. And all participants in that felony can be charged with and found guilty of murder. translation, if you commit a felony. And while that felony is happening, someone gets killed, you can be found guilty of murder. Whether or not you killed anyone. Here's an example. Let's say you let your friend borrow your car. You know, he's gonna use it to commit a robbery. But then he ends up killing someone. The felony murder rule says that
you're equally guilty of the murder as your friend. This actually happened to a guy named Brian Holley. Instead of going to prison for an attempted robbery. He served in life without the possibility of parole. Or what about this? You and your friend decided to commit a robbery as you're running away? Your friend is shot dead by the police. The felony murder rule says that you are going to prison for his murder, even though it was a cop killed. Wow. Okay. Now
Now you now you see why says no justice. Yeah, in this case, did they try to Didn't they try to lay this on President Trump or something to that I recall, vaguely there was something like this. I mean, I'm sure they tried to make sense, right? It makes complete sense. Yeah. But what I what I'm trying to illustrate to
people is this. Okay, say it was manslaughter at the point became manslaughter, those other people in commission of that crime, if you're going to charge all of them by the felony murder rule, you have to give them all murder one, right? Or if you're going to say drugs killed him, then you need to go and find the people that committed the felony. You're saying that like I suppose. If you want complete justice, yes. Right. Well, I thought that's what we were striving for here.
Please, you didn't really think that did you? Know what I'm what I'm saying is by the people was pushing the narratives. Yeah. Yeah. And they left us right where they wanted us at right now. Oh, it's the perfect illusion. Is that blue dress? black dress kind of thing. blue dress? Yeah, yes. No matter what language you look at, it is a you're not gonna be happy. And we're, I'm gonna give you this the perspective of how you're saying I look at as a black man, and I barely rarely
say that. Oh, you're saying on this show. But the reason why I say that is because I have to tell and communicate while people are so frustrated. When we watch first 48 television shows, it'll be a case where three black kids go do A, B and E. And they start Oh, lady, she falls over with a heart attack. And they all go down for murder. Murder one. Got it. So when you set that standard, you gotta you gotta you got to keep it you got to keep the standard.
Well, it's not about keeping it what it is, is that that's what shaped these. Our minds. Now. I mean, of course, I know, there is a greater sense of you know, they're shades of gray. But what I'm saying is when I look at this case, I'm like, why did you get those three kids murder? Why? I mean, let me translate. Let me translate. Yes. So and I'll use
the term as a black man. You look at this, you're used to hearing the second part of the sentence, which is, well, because the old lady died, you're getting murder one. You're all going you're all going to jail. And you've heard that. I think this week, will you be watching the show first 48, which is very popular amongst them to become too busy watching the Oscars. I got no time. No.
It's this show. Yeah, you were like three other people. But what I'm saying is, um, and while we have this show, is to have these conversations. Yes. Yeah. So people can first seek first to understand then to be understood, you know, have empathy for both sides. And so that's my point because as a white man, I get to say it I've never really even heard this. So you've been exposed to it for obvious reasons, much more than I have. Is that Is
that a fair assessment? Yeah, I mean, it's just I'm not saying I'm out here doing being ease. I'm talking about what the media shows me. Yeah, week after week on a television show that you're saying, mostly is dominated by the presence of a young black man. Yeah, I've never. I've never seen the most disgusting example was this. One guy calls up his friend and say, Hey, you know, anybody got any weed? And he was like, Yeah, I know. Somebody got weed. He takes them over to the
guy's house. He sits in the car, the guy goes and buys the weed, rather than kill the people in the house. They both get murdered one. Wow. Just like that. Yeah. Okay, so what shapes your perspective? It's like when you see this case, and usually for cops involved nine minutes on his back, nobody says pulls him out, like come on Derek. bullcrap. I don't want to get murdered. Right. So as I said, it's not just this not to be had because
what they had was perfect. They had to sacrifice the put up on the call truce, and for the call the woke the Holy cow. Yeah, and it was like it weren't perfect. But I know I talked a lot here. But I'm trying to know I got I know that. No, I have to say, I know there's some people on both sides right now that are pissed at me. Maybe but what I have to do, I don't care. I mean, you know me. I truly don't care because I understand what this
is meant to do. And if you're allowing that to do it to you, then you're, you're a victim. And I actually feel empathy for you. It's not I'm angry at you because you're angry at me, because I'm not going to regurgitate talking points. But look at this case. So this is what I this is what I love about the show mo is like you're you're first of all, you're giving me something that I hadn't thought about, you know, it's like I've never even I don't even know about this part
of justice. And that's on me. But this is exactly the kind of show where we can have these conversations. And and I love it that you that you say there's no justice on either side. That's the important part. That's what people need to understand is we're all being played. That's the whole point. That's the whole point. And so I mean, not to say is Hussein stray too far, but I just want to lay that out. Just so everybody understands what's going on with
the show, you know and understand. So I think we stopped that. Next. Yes, please. By Wednesday, as protests spread nationwide. George Floyd sister Bridget Floyd calls for justice. I would like for those officers to be charged with murder. Thursday, new video reveals the three officers were on top of Floyd during governor Tim Walz activates the National Guard. On the third night of protests crowds gather outside
the third police precinct in downtown Minneapolis. The standoff soon spirals out of control, with officers evacuating the police station just after 10pm local time as protesters entered the building. The police precinct as well as several buildings in the surrounding neighborhood are lit on fire. several businesses are looted smoke shop, and there's a liquor shop. Then there's the street police station is right across
from the police station. There are fires burning in different directions around me. There's another fire over there. Yes, the Summer of Love. Yeah. And that's the thing. This thing was not this thing was not only about a presidential election, this is about the way the world's going to go. And that you might think that's grandiose, but it's really it's not. Because if this doesn't happen, um, I think the pandemic wasn't enough to get Trump out
of office. I really don't. Because I mean, at the end of the day, the money came back. The stock market went down, but it came back. And he's like, well, it's like, well, you know, it wasn't an economical thing. It was this this constant pressure from this case, and then everything stacked on top of it. And we talked about the three waves and how was strategic laid out in 41 actually had multiple waves. You had the three waves of the
protest, but at the same time, that's what we had. We had Coronavirus waves and we had media waves discrediting everything the president said and it was a pylon that was crazy. And and the world stop. So you had nothing to do but fixate on it. Right. You know, that was part of it, too. Yeah. That it's like I'm stuck in my house all day and all on the airwaves. There's nothing more that I'm bored in the house. I'm in the
house bored. Right? That's exactly right. So Tick Tock. In that case, in that clip, they said three officers had his knee on his back. Yeah. So they They've changed. And I'm not saying that Derek Shelvin wasn't the initiator and the main culprit in this situation. What I'm saying is, I thought it was rotting out together right now, I guess not. I never seen it play out like I'm talking about from top to bottom, the law enforcement and justice apparatus turn their
back on their shoulder. And I've never seen that before in my life. And when I see stuff like that, it's like, That was too easy. Yeah, that making a good point. So I'm just like, I'm only speaking from my perspective, but I can see it from both sides. I mean, because I under seek to understand the other side of how people may see it. So I think we stopped that. We're going back to Episode 59.
Okay, we're going back to 59. This is restoring just as well, we actually define when they say what I believe when the court says, justice, what they mean, they're not talking about the law, and how the law is executed. They're talking about their God is this in every courtroom around the world, and we're not talking about just in America, she's around the world. Welcome to chasing Gods where we find meaning with symbols and
myths. To judge with justice is believed to be one of the top virtues by philosophers, writers and artists of the ancient world. From ancient Egypt to Ancient Greece and Rome, Justice has been personified by a goddess who not only belongs to the highest ranks of gods, but whose symbolism is even sought by them, you could imagine what justice must have meant to men. This goddess I'm talking about is Lady Justice. You've probably
seen her but may not have paid too much attention. She could be a statue, an emblem or figurine to represent justice in the legal system worldwide. She holds a scale the sword, and at times, she wears a blindfold. I thought she always wore a blindfold. That's another one. I didn't catch the first time we listen to these clips. Hmm, sometimes. Interesting. I've did I'm glad you said it. Because I was gonna say it. Well, I'm glad you picked up on that as well. And neither one of
those picked up on it last time we were now. And what I'm what I'm illustrating here is these. If this information is pertinent, what happens now because these people at the higher levels believe in this even though you may not believe in it. They believe in some wacky stuff. mysticism, Greek mythology. So when you go back and look at Epstein Island, you had to see all Oh,
yeah, yeah, sure. Sure. And all the things we laid out in the last 61 shows that point back to their affinity for for Egypt, Egyptian relics and signs and symbols. So I just want to lay that out there as well that when they say justice, because you're going to hear a lot in the next few clips, um, what they I think what my perspective what they're referring to, so we stopped there, we can get back into nbc news for
in the early hours of Friday morning. St. Paul police report that nearly 170 businesses have been damaged by vandalism looting or fires. Minneapolis police arrest tax officer Derek Charmin and charged with murder and manslaughter, charging papers, data choppin had his knee and Floyd's neck for eight minutes and 46 seconds. Friday night. Demonstrations continue
across the country. 100 juror arrested, police cars are burned and scuffles breakout between law enforcement and protesters in New York, New Atlanta, Los Angeles and the governors of several states deploy the National Guard to restore order. Yeah, always though cities always those every time and they were like this is the big one. This is the so I have to look at this. Like I look at 911. And the people who say maybe this was all planned. If this doesn't happen,
if not 11 doesn't happen. History is altered. So just from that perspective, you want to go out on that limb. I'm not necessarily what I'm saying I don't have any proof or any facts that lean towards it was, you know, a planned scenario. But if something like this falls in your lap, the news media knows what to do with Yeah, you know, the way I let me just interject for a sec. And there's a reason for this. So recently, we had a cop shoot and kill
three people here in Austin. Did you hear about it? I did not know. shot and killed his daughter, her boyfriend and a star football player for UT who had just been recruited a cop? I think I heard this kid. Yeah. Black cop. Yay. I'm gonna tell you why I didn't hear it. Let me give you where I did hear it and why I didn't hear it. I didn't hear it in my race circle of where I gather information from I heard it in the they tried to pin it off on the manosphere mig tau reason. Oh, total cost. He
totally Yep. Yeah, it was right away. It was like, sexual assault of domestic abuse all this stuff. And then he was a chauvinist pig was a chauvinist pig, but they did not play it up at all at all. Can you imagine? Imagine if it was in the anti anti man circle? They did, but not on the race channels. See? That's how deep it's like, well, yeah, he was anti man. No, yeah. So the reason I bring it up. The reason I bring it up is I, I'm totally with you on it's planned. And I think the way it
works is okay, we're ready. We've got everything in place. All the actors are ready, everyone we need. We just need the right case. And we've seen this several times. But you know, when it's brown versus blue, we saw this with Brown versus Board of Education. We saw this with um, Claudette Colvin. She wasn't in the right case. We needed Rosa Parks, you know, so we don't we can't exactly, exactly and even if you if you want to go back to the Scottsboro boys, which I will cover in another show.
That's when the communists really got a foothold and race relations in America. And it was like, yeah, it was so I can just see how it goes down. I was like, holy crap, we this is a good one. We got video. We got nine minutes. This is great. What's the guy's name Charmin? How do you spell it? See? Oh, no, no, no, no show would make it show up. And this is perfect. I'm sure they would just Jizan all over themselves for that. Oh, could not get any better. So that I think that was an addition later
on. I doubt that that was set up. And premeditated, but it was just kind of fell into their lap, I think. And now this is where I get to piss the other side off. Do I think do I think they're Shogun got justice? No, I did not. Because when you heard how political figures were speaking before the verdict? Yeah. That's not by the definition of justice. That's not justice. Normally, people say we'll defer to after the trial is over to make comments that we're saying you we've heard it off.
We've always heard this, you know, stuff does creep in. And I think the media they pushed it so hard right away. When we started this very episode. You actually said you know, George Floyd was murdered. Yes, I've always said Jeanine Pirro judge, judge and put it properly respect on a judge Jeanine Pirro, we shared the same perspective. That was martyr one. Okay. That was
always my, that was always my perspective. Because the reason why I say this, and this is from our lower order, first 40, a lifetime movies, law movies, legal education. Really, it's as good as any jury in America has had. Well, like, they say perception is reality. And if I'm looking at it through the lens of how TV has told me how these cases are supposed to go, premeditation can be simple as man come home, find his wife in bed with her lover. If he pulls out his gun
shoots bow from dead. That's not murder, right? But if he goes downstairs, goes to the car, smoke a cigarette, come back up, kills them. Let's pretend it makes it premeditated murder. Yeah. Well, he had some meditation. Time, right? What I'm saying is so by the judges perspective, he had nine minutes to decide. I don't want to do this anymore. Right, right, right. I'm not going off the imagery with his hand in his pocket and doing the Colin Kaepernick meal. See, that's another step. Like
all of this is all of this. Man is a it's a major spell. It's a major spell cast on the world, not just America, the world because you had riots. I said, Yes. I said riots all around the world burning all around the world. In the name of you know, justice, in the name of George Floyd even all around the world in a way. In Holland. They had slides now. It was never about
George floor. Okay. What I'm saying it was never about George floor George floor was just we're gonna get to what George floor was it was that we have to do this and we got to push for justice. And even when we got justice, we can't stop there. We got to keep continuing on for justice. Right. It's like wait, we didn't even get justice. You know, I mean, like, and then We're gonna keep pushing for it, but we should be celebrating it is like, it's a complete mind screw. It's a complete mind
screw. So what I'm going now is, I don't think, because I, I have to put myself in this, if I'm on the hot seat and I'm on trial, I don't want political figures speaking about oh my by my case. So if I think anything of that for anybody else, no matter what I may feel about that person, they they deserve a fair day in court and they deserve the right to, you know, for a political muscle not to be leaned on their case. Because if I think
differently, that makes me a hypocrite. And what we do on this show was pointing out hypocrisy. For sure, it's one of our strong suits. So I'm gonna go to talk costs, and I'm gonna lean on Tucker for this one, and Tucker one. So there was a political context around this trial politics shouldn't have any effect on any trial. Again, that's antithetical to what justice is, but they did intrude at every
level of this case. We'll tell you how. After the verdict, Joe Biden declared that systemic racism is a stain on this country. So the jury in Minnesota, found former Minneapolis police officer Derrick Chauvin guilty on all counts in the murder, of George Floyd, last name. It was a murder in the full light of day, and then rip the blinders off. For the whole world to see the systemic racism, the Vice President has referred to their systemic racism as a stain on our nation's soul, the knee on
the neck of justice for black Americans. Enough, enough of this senseless killings. Today, today's verdict is a step forward. systemic racism, a term that neither Joe Biden nor anyone else who uses that has ever defined with any precision whatsoever, but more striking is Biden's posture. You'd think you'd be excited by this just this morning, as the jury was still deliberating. The president united states said he was praying for a guilty verdict.
I'm praying the verdict is the right verdict. Overwhelming in my view, I wouldn't say that. Jewelry was the question. Now, hear me say that. Yeah, President Biden's own little cherry on top of the spell there. And it's the reason why they had to do this because I think everybody or the majority of America was on Well, if he gets
found guilty, nobody's going to cry for this guy. A very small population is going to cry for this guy, because he's like, I mean, like, some people really feel that he should have been found guilty. Other people is like, well, just to get things. It's kind of like the vaccine is to get things back to normal.
We need him guilties. Well, I mean, everywhere This is people were saying this, I mean, even Regina King, the opening of the Oscars, she said, Well, I'm glad that we got a guilty verdict otherwise would have had to change these pumps for marching boots. Well, that's the thing that they had the manufactured outrage, because there was if they wouldn't just let it play it out and not say anything, it would have been he's found guilty, people would have been satisfied, and it
would have been no more than in marketing, I believe. Yeah. What I believe in my perspective is they tamper with the case. So dinner will be appeal. And you have a part two? Yes. Well, yes. And that would be maxine waters. Yes. So I'm gonna say the whole everybody they were out here saying, Okay, hold on a second. Because this is a good point. Because I the the general parlance was, well, the judge made a big deal. And it was televised, and that's always important. It's always
important with the media shows, it was televised. The judge saying, Well, you know, it looks like on appeal, you've got grounds for dismissal because of Congresswoman Maxine Waters statements. And, and, and the narrative on the right, I think was mainly Yeah, you know, it's like, the jury just just just gave it to him because he's going to get off on appeal. But really, certainly from the mainstream media. I can't speak
on behalf of the judge, but the media is corrupt. They probably set that up to get have a one two punch. Is that every girl every great fight. You gotta have a trilogy. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. This is this is why because if they if nobody would have said anything, it would have just been Yep, go ahead and lock them up. You know, it'll be a story over any, you know, put this out in the atmosphere, but you know how it ends. He gets the dominance treatment and sale or are the Epstein treatment? Yeah.
And it's just, it's over. But it's like, No, no, no, no, we got to keep this thing going, we got to give gas. And one reason you got you got 45 missing your race sector. Your News is you're saying you have a huge void, and they only know and they only have about, you know, less than two years to do something. Yes. So they have to they have to be foot on the pedal to the
metal arm. So I guess we stopped off at Tucker one. Let's go ahead and go into Tucker to what was the last time a sitting president weighed in on a jury decision before it was made? Answer, never. What else was asked about this just a few hours later and pretended that Joe Biden hadn't actually said, what he actually said. You're not able to clarify what is overwhelming the evidence, a case presented by the prosecution? We're not going to get ahead of the outcome. I expect when there
is a verdict. He will have more to say the President has talked about the importance of an independent judiciary, why is it appropriate for him to weigh in on the verdict, even though the jury? I wouldn't think I don't think he would see it as weighing in on the verdict. He was conveying what many people are feeling across the country? Yeah, he's just conveying what many people are feeling he wasn't weighing in as the single most powerful man in the world
on a jury verdict that hadn't been reached yet. He didn't say what you saw him say, just as an FYI. First, I know this is the third three rounds, but Chauvin sentencing date set for June 1. And then after that, then we can go for appeal. So maybe we got a little sentencing fund to have first if though if the wave is like, yeah, the HA, yeah. The Pro George Floyd crowd is on the high right now. And then the center scene is gonna be the kick in the mat. You know, just
like the bottom john case. We seen this before, where the cop got convicted. But when they came back with a sentence, it was like 10 years, right. And then the double whammy is gonna be he's gonna come around on appeal. He'll, yeah. Shoot, I mean, I don't I don't see. I hope it all play out. Like I think it's gonna play out. But then he loses appeal. And then he goes in and gets Epstein treatment. And it's like, okay, everything's wrapped up, you know, right. Good to go. And I
don't want to put that out in the ether. But we've seen this play out. I've seen it. Yeah, to just call them the trend to trend. That's all we're doing. And then they would they way they Gaslight people, they knew what they were doing. Joe comes out says it. And then she goes like he didn't say that. And it's like, wait, I just heard what I heard. I'm speaking from not from my perspective, I'm speaking from the Pro. shoving side to say we heard what we heard her saying she's like him
say that. Yeah, so it's constant gaslighting to bring the temperature up on that side. So this show is not really deconstructing anything. This shows a warning, this show is this show is going to tell you what's coming. It's a prediction. And I hope I'm wrong. Yeah, I'm hope I'm wrong. But I understand how these things play out. I mean, I've seen it and what I mean by it, and you've tracted, my brother.
Well, I've seen it all my adult life. And what I'm saying even a young adult, you got to remember in 95, I was 15 years old, starting with and then Rodney King, I was saying of conscious age, to see how that played out. So I see how these things playing out. But the only thing is the juice is on the other side now, but it's still gonna be the same outcome where nobody satisfied with the outcome. And it just breeds more contention
for each side. Because how does he see this ending? Once I pops off the other side, mops him up, and then that side gets mocked up? Yeah. Well, that's isn't that Isn't that how you want the script to always play out? If you want to? Keep it convenient? Yeah. Which I think like you said, they tried to keep this thing going to the midterms. Yeah. You know, so they can motivate you. I mean, I didn't I was not Pooh poohing
with the effect on the outcome of the election. What I'm saying is that election decided which way this world allegedly is going to go? No. midterm is going to there has to be a slaughter somewhere in the midterm, whether it's the actual voting itself or something beforehand, for sure. Desperate, these people are
desperate. They're desperate to get something kicking, distract at all costs, make this draft, wah wah executive order at the executive order get signed and are saying everybody gets put into boot. Yeah. And then I want to make one more thing. Tucker said it. He hasn't. Nobody has clearly defined systemic racism, where you haven't heard our podcast. And we know your producers listened to us anyway. So you might as well go back to what episode early early first 10?
Maybe we just yeah, firsthand, we laid it out there, which we say by the definition from nearly Fuller, white supremacy is a one world government. And the hard thing about it is kind of hard to be a truth. And believe in is that there's a globalist system and not believe, you know, but that's what we cover with the mega mega Marco. Yeah, it's like it's not about color. It's about it's a certain group of people that have power over everybody to see
you. And as we always say, it starts with us. It only starts with, oh, yeah, I'm well aware of. Well, now I have a sample how these things normally are handled when a trial is pending. I have Obama speaking on Trayvon? Well, I'm the head of the executive branch, and the Attorney General reports to me, so I've got to be careful about my statements to make sure that we're not impairing any investigation that's taking place right now, however.
But obviously, this is a tragedy. I can only imagine what these parents are going through. And when I think about this boy, I think about my own kids. And I think every parent in America should be able to understand why it is absolutely imperative that we investigate every aspect of this, and that everybody pulls together federal, state and local to figure out exactly how this tragedy happened. But my main message is, is to the parents of Trayvon Martin. You know, if I had a son, he'd look
like Trayvon. And I think they are right to expect that all of us as Americans are going to take this with the seriousness that it deserves and that we're going to get to the bottom of exactly what happened. Was this not to the speech that the President did at the time with a tear in his eye? No, that was that was no I don't think he Crawford Trayvon Sandy Hook Sandy Hook, no black kids don't get tears coming.
Not from President Obama. No, no. Wish that no. And I said that I noticed that tongue in cheek, but that was a sentiment, like, Oh, you can cry for them? I bet it was a sentiment. Sure. And in this show, I'm gonna expose a lot of how this has felt is come. You know, it's because what that reason why I'm not is not for the emotional Fed is for when you see something, you process it and it's like, okay, that's how you want me to feel. Okay, it's that initial hit. It's like, wait, why did
you want me to feel like that? There wasn't. There was another funny thing about about this particular case, as I was looking at, from my perspective is before we met, was the fact that george Zimmerman, and this immediate assumption as to him being white, and when he turned out to be Hispanic, it became a little more problem. He was white. Yeah, no, no, I know what you're saying. But yeah, exactly. But that was thrown. That's the narrative. We
can't let the facts get in the way over there. Oh, no, no, no. Okay. So while I was in that example of a heinous brown on black crime, because that's not a fight, they're pushing on the black or Asian that we see that a thing, man, it's not a brown on black is not a thing. It's not a thing. Black on Asian, that's a thing. We all know this. And we highlighted that how long ago on the first pandemic show we had because I
just got to point this out that I'm What is her name? Your favorite lady from XM Radio. Not Valerie. Karen Hunter, Karen Hunter. Miller, she just came out with that weird statement about the kung fu and it was, you know, completely racist. And we had that whole talking point come up. Yeah, sure. And then now we see it in effect. What you're saying and I'm just gonna we're gonna cover this on a nutshell, but what you're starting to see is Asian people start being grafted into
whiteness. Yes, these like the Irish and they they are considered white adjacent. As Yeah, but anyway, that's how you start out as the JV team. Yeah. No agenda. We got tons of we got tons of I call them the amps, the Asian millennial producers. And they're telling me all this stuff's Oh, yeah, no, not we're white adjacent. And this sick of it, man, they think it's all bull crap that they are being abused. Made the victim. Yeah, I mean, you
have to be the victim. It's like, okay, now we can put you in the group. But we don't want to digress too much. But I just want to lay that out because we did pointed out way ahead of time. Now we got to go back. I believe we're on Tucker Three. Yeah, he was just conveying what many people are feeling he wasn't weighing in as the single most powerful man in the world on a jury verdict that hadn't been reached yet. You didn't say what you saw him say. But that sounds like a familiar defense.
It's exactly what maxine waters and her defenders throughout Washington are using today, after waters threatened the jury with violence. If it didn't find a guilty verdict. You've got to fight for justice. I am very hopeful that we're going to get that guilty, guilty guilty. As far as I'm concerned, as well. And we've got to get more active, we've got to get more
confrontational. We've got to make sure that they know that we need so there's a reason police were all over the streets and cities across the country lesson is that the threat of violence, and Maxine Waters threatened violence before the jury have even begun to consider the facts of the case. That's so far over
the line that we read. Some Democrats were shocked by it, and yet no one condemned it. That includes the president includes the most powerful people in the Democratic Party, the Speaker of the House, Nancy Pelosi, Steny, Hoyer of Maryland, they came out in support of maxine waters. Yeah, it was truly bizarre. And no, I mean, I suspect the reason why I said it is Maxine Waters is the perfect pawn. Because you send her out, she
says incendiary things. And then when she gets attacked by a little black lady. She's out there saying, Oh, we got to be persistent. And no, I'm keep applying pressure. It's like, Huh. I remember somebody else using language that it was not a scenario, and she got all bent out of shape over Oh, you mean President Trump? Yeah, January 6, if you want to use the same standard, and that's what you have to do, if you want to be actually talking
about real justice. I'm not this worship they have going on but actual, you know what, this is the standard. And we're gonna judge people fairly by that standard. So it's like, if you judged 45 savage that way. Now, I'm going to use that standard towards you, and see how it pans out pen. If it is then you're doing your inciting riots and everything else you accuse him of, I'm gonna stand by your own standard. And if you don't want to believe me, my perspective or her standard, that's gonna get
her in her own words. And the question for you. Yes, please. You know, and we'll probably get to the $27 million that the city paid the Shogun family, by the George Floyd's family, which I think was also, you know, very corrupting, or maybe intimidating or influencing any potential jury pool at the time. Huh. Do you feel that this has become for some families? Just like he's gonna sound horrible. me saying it, but like a business model? Yeah.
I mean, not when they're not the business model. where they are, are. Have you or your family been killed by cops? If so, call you saying okay. That's what I meant. Yeah. Call Kronk. Crew, crew. And they come in and they say, you know what, and it's all played out and crumbs like you see that crowd outside? Yeah. You see that crowd outside. And what's really sad is knowing a little bit about celebrity being being a celebrity being in the public eye, Paul, man, it
takes a lot of strength not to come to that. And you start you will believe anything. When a crowd is chanting your name and when they're loving you and you're feeling that and that that that vibe is going back and forth. you'll believe anything anyone tells you. It's pressure, but also suppress pressure release valve. Because when the family gets the money, it's like, okay, here family, here's your script. They go out we forgive everybody. We just
want common peace. And we don't want no problems. Okay? We could take the pressure off the riots, you know, you let the pressure out. And it's like, you know what? We didn't get what we wanted. And you know, he can turn up the heat again. And the pressure goes right back up. And but they don't want to really, they don't want no smoke. No, they don't want to really want I mean, they don't want it. Because if you listen to Maxine Waters, she's like, oh, where do you believe is murder one or
not? Why don't you come out like the judge Jeanine and come full throated with like, this was murder one, right? He was a witness and bullcrap that we and and get murdered. But it's like they have to be very balanced by if you think it's murder war, and I kind of think it was but if you give us what we want, then we will tell them to stand down. And that's another thing. The fact that nothing happened at this verdict. Nothing that tells you somebody had their hand on the on the go button.
Yeah. This is not organic, cuz you don't or you don't control organic like that. Wow. Okay, not a window was busted. Nothing. It was just like, Alright, we won. Yay. You know, it's like, maybe you bring out the fourth wave. Always. How about that four way? Yeah. That's the cover. That's that. That's the that's the clean man. That's the you know, that's the bag man. Those are the happy dancing protesters like Yeah, we did he you know, yeah. Right.
goon Stand back. But it means they have that kind of control over that, that tells you that this is this is scripted, and it not in the form of the from the beginning. I'm talking about from the point it happened. Own? I'm not gonna get into that. I'm not I'm not saying that. It could have been it could have been, but I like to stay with the facts. We already established once, once you had the perfect scenario, it was just fitting it into the plan. Mm hmm.
So now we're going to go and listen to maxine waters in her own words. Do we already hear that? And we know we didn't. And last night I read something yesterday and it really struck me in his stayed with me written by a black person who said we are not asking you to shoot them like you shoot us. We are asking you to not shoot us like you don't shoot them. You certainly been
in Congress 30 years seen a lot? What are your thoughts on the hypocrisy and double standard that so many are talking about in our society, as far as if the rioters yesterday had been black, how the outcome most likely would have been much different? Well, I tweeted, something similar to that. And I basically tweeted, if this had been Black Lives Matter, you know, acting in the way that the oathkeepers and the proud boys and the white supremacist had some capital, what do you think would have
happened? Do you think, you know, in essence, they would have gotten away with it. And, you know, I got the kinds of responses where, you know, everyone was saying, of course, we know, they said it in so many ways, blood would be all over the place. They would be killed, they would be shocked. Everybody believes and knows that blacks are treated differently, even
when they are peacefully protesting. And so we also know that, you know, whites feel more comfortable in their protests that they will not be shot and killed. See the double standard? hypocrisy so think as she was speaking on hypocrisy, brazenly? I'm gonna be very hypocritical about hypocrisy for a moment. Let's get back to Tucker and Tucker for that so far over the line that we read. Some Democrats were
shocked by it, and yet no one condemned it. That includes the president includes the most powerful people in the Democratic Party, the Speaker of the House, Nancy Pelosi, Steny, Hoyer of Maryland, they came out in support of maxine waters. And then state media, literally state media Public Broadcasting System came out today with an explanation at the White House press briefing, watch this propagandist explain what Maxine Waters really meant.
Representative waters, as he said, clarified, she said, my actual words don't matter. I wonder why the white house isn't also coming to the defense of representative waters, given the fact that she's now facing an onslaught of attacks, especially by what say Republicans. I wonder why the white house isn't saying we back what she said about being confrontational. She was obviously not threatening violence. There are civil rights
leaders. They're saying that's what contract that's what civil rights is to be confrontational to be active. Well, she could. She also clarified her own remarks. imation I think that's the most powerful piece to point to. Lady works for you. She literally worked for public Television. And there she is ardently flacking for lunatic Maxine Waters at the White House press briefing. Well, it's all normal. Don't worry, it's always been this way. It hasn't always been this way.
Yes, your Miche there's nothing like a good yummies clip and wait for maxine waters to say her words don't matter. When the whole time of my reclaiming my time, all about saying what I say matters. Now all of a sudden, it doesn't matter. But she was sent out there, hold on my time. My time reclaiming my time. So she was sent out there to be to receive that be the target. Because I almost say these crate and we saying these things that
normally no politician would say pre verdict, right? And then when when the heat comes from me, and of course, this is the this is the problem. The other side. They're so predictable. You can almost right? It's like you're going to hear center. And you know, what about isms. And that kind of thing is when you become so predictable, then your opponents can kind of pull you into where they want you to go. And that's exactly what happened. Um, so I guess we can going to wrap up with Tucker
with Tucker five. And our leaders haven't always talked. Like they're seized by religious fervor. He was the Speaker of the House today, thanking George Floyd because he died in order to make the Democratic Party more powerful. For his sacrifice. She said, watch this. Thank you, George Floyd, for sacrificing your life for justice because of you. And because of 1000s, millions of people around the world who came out for justice, your name will always be synonymous with
justice, unless we can change the wall. This will be an episode, we change the wall, we're going down a different path altogether. So the guy dies on the sidewalk. And here this lady comes out and politicizes It's so completely that he becomes sort of a Democratic Party saying thank you for your sacrifice is grotesque. It's a cult. Obviously. It was bizarre. It is a call as a cult. Yeah, it was. It was just bizarre. With three justices. Your sacrifice, you were sacrificed
for justice, your justice for justice. And I know I'm saying about once you to get in your mind what their justice is another schedule. Because and I'm gonna re reiterate my point. We nobody got justice. Yeah. He said the republican schedule is liberty and freedom, and for Democrats has always been justice. Yes. Justice. And so now we got to go back to show 48 because we lay out black man being the sacrificial lamb for other
parties to come out. And this dovetails where what when we talked about the Asian aspect as well, when one group wants to move up. They have to sacrifice black people, specifically black man, and its colors for show 48 sacrifice one. So this lecture focuses on the ritual sacrifice of black men in particular, and as an instrument for creating a cohesive and unified body of people called White. So in this development of the screen of racial contempt that I'm calling the first stage of sacrifice.
Well, it certainly includes the murder of African Americans. It was, it was the murder of their humanity, in the eyes of European Americans that was sacrificed in the development of white identity. More than just debasement. It was the symbolic murder of their identities offered up in order to engender another identity. So Rene Girard writes, the purpose of sacrifice is to restore the harmony to community to reinforce the social fabric, and that the common denominator that exists
between behind all sacrifice is internal violence. And the dissensions, the rivalries, the jealousies, and the corals of the community, by design are suppressed by sacrifice. You know, I haven't been talking to many people about the C word about the cult. But man, I've been telling more and more people not specifically regarding this, but regarding a lot of different things, and I said it's a spell. And, and
whereas I think, maybe probably pre pre Corona. People would have looked at me like you're out of your mind, but I don't Don't even get that anymore. Just get a Yeah, yeah, it is kind of a spell, isn't it? So let me define how I define witchcraft. witchcraft is not but control. Okay? When you want control over somebody else, like
cuz that's what a spell is right? You might think one thing, but I want you to think another thing God casts a spell on you and make you go the opposite way, the way I want you to go. So let's not get into the home, not you. But I don't want people in mind to drift off into cauldrons and new eyes and that kind of thing. That's a different show. does keep it very simple. It's just that when somebody wants to control your throat, thoughts, Mind Control, you know, what do
they do they cast a spell on you. And the way and if you heard in this clip dehumanization, the democrats dehumanised George Floyd, thank you, George, thank you for being a sacrificial lamb so we can bring about more peace and justice and, you know, nothing for really for black men. Not that I mean, everybody else is gonna come up out, as I always say, we open the door, everybody else goes right hand. That's right. And as you saying, what legislation how you seen, not
for black men, nothing to protect? You know, I'm specifically if you want to say that to being attacked. That's what the democrats are saying. But then there's nothing that changed my life. But they know how to pick a victim. Yes. And that's the genius of it then. And they got they got one handed to them beautiful. And the one that they chose to highlight. He wasn't squeaky clean. So now with the strike, if he would have been a Sunday school teacher, then the same way, there's nobody who had an
argument. He said, it's not that's why they did not pick cases like that. Yeah. Because then we can't play out the whole scenario with three rounds of strife and violence and unrest. Yes, which all movies have that thing, right, you think is one way and it comes back the other way, and then it comes back that night, the terms, I think what they call them, you have the terms in the script. So I'm speaking of picking the victim, let's go and get to number 19.
So the system doesn't want us to go too far. So it needs to find a way to blow off steam through the process. They don't want to get rid of that intra community violence, but they just want to deflect it before it reaches the doors of the elites. So to deflect the violence that ultimately arises out of the competition, there needs to be a ritual victim, which is the third group. Someone who is marginal within the community who does not represent a real threat of reprisal, who can
attack the system back. The dangers in the society are projected onto that victim. Wow, man, I got to go back and listen to all of Episode 48. Now, so good, that's a great clip. And that's what they've been doing. But now this next clip is kind of long clip was two minutes. We try to keep it at 130. But I have to let this play all the way out. So it's fine for Nancy Pelosi to go out and say Jordan for it was a sacrifice. But when a black man Neo tried to say this a year
prior to when it happened actually at his funeral. This is the response that he got. Okay guys, so keep this the third and final memorial for George Floyd. The 46 year old black man killed at the hands of Minnesota police on May 25 was held at the fountain of Christ Church in Houston on Tuesday, June 9 neo who was sending to service and performed a song is now facing criticism after referring to Floyd as a sacrifice, man change the world. Change the world for the better. So I just
want to personally thank George Floyd for his sacrifice. So that so that my kids can be I later on I appreciate I appreciate the sacrifice Barbara that genuinely do. Following his speech, Neil got visibly emotional when he sang boys to men's 1991 hit so hard to say goodbye to yesterday in honor of the 46 year old Floyd. Even though Twitter immediately pounced on Neo for a seemingly insensitive remarks. Many people couldn't believe he would say such a thing while others just
import celebrities to keep their mouth shut. Here are some of the reactions everyone when Neo said George Ford's murder was a sacrifice Neo some of these so called celebrities really need to reread their tweets before they hit that tweet button because they assume they're tweeting something profound. They just wind up making an themselves Neo out of all the things to say you say that the Neo just call the murder of George Floyd a sacrifice Neo just named George Ford for his
sacrifice so his kids can be saved. Some of those celebrities really need to be quiet because whoo Chow me after checking to see why Neo is trending. Do y'all not know we don't allow you to act up in the black church who put Neo in the pulpit who was this pic is real real life in the black church every time I see a celebrity trend and I just know they said some dumb Neo really Neo was so choked up while singing. He stopped several times to get through it man Please Neo said I'd like to
thank George Ford for his sacrifice. Yep, you read right and Neo which Oh ignorant. I just saw a clip of Neo saying he likes to thank George for for his sacrifice what sacrifice Neo George Ford was murdered. He didn't give his life to anyone his life was taken from everyone. Why are celebrities even talking? sacrifice was bloody murder, Nia should have just kept quiet. black male celebrities have been nothing but an embarrassment this past few days, nothing good coming out of their mouth.
So the assertion here is he can't be sacrificed for black men. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, it needs to be for the cause. Not for not for the black men. We can't even weaponize our own. What's wrong with you? Ain't that crazy? wrong with you? Come on, Nancy Pelosi, oh, rich, white lady and go out here and say thanks. And the way she said she wouldn't see. Thanks, George. Wow. To keep from crying because people think we're making this up. If, if you
can talk to anybody before they start, listen to the show. They probably thought black man were whiners. But it's like, No, nobody cares about us, because everybody uses us on purpose. And congratulations, that sequence of clips that you set up perfectly to roll into that one. Yeah, we're gonna make a podcast out of you yet Mo. was good. It was really, really good. Great clip. Alright, so now we have MSNBC and this is a I forget her name,
but she's speaking on a joy read show. And let's see how they speak on George Floyd as a sacrifice. This is our next blood sacrifice is still asking people to recognize our humanity. We saw this in the 60s, we saw this in the 80s. We're seeing it now. But if you look at the power structure, this is still black and brown people asking for equality. This is still white NFL owners allowing black players to kneel This is still white NASCAR owners, allowing
black players to wear black lives matter. This is still white corporate power brokers at Starbucks, allowing their employees to say Black Lives Matter. So for me, I'm still pretty angry about it. We're still in a space where we're asking a television landscape to please allow us to speak truthfully, please don't sideline us, please give us a
platform to speak. I think in order for this country to have a true reconciliation and a true recognition of where we are and stop buying into a false narrative about who America is. We have to reimagine America Previously, we could only see what was possible and even that seemed out of reach. In this moment, we are seeing the impossible and power concedes nothing. So this is a moment for we for us to take, take ourselves and galvanize this movement and grab power. So when
I see the power structure start to shift. We're we're not asking permission to live to breed. But when I asked him to hold on to our lives and to be allowed to pursue our livelihood, then I would describe that as a seismic power shift. We we Yeah, we we in and it's certainly not black men, black women. And white women,
women of color women in general. And minorities. I mean that, you know, maybe maybe black men have to have to take a page out of the old women's playbook, Mr. satra thing was that her name? And just say, okay, we're withholding all sex. That may work. Which you know what? No, and I'm not saying that tongue in cheek. But that's not we're not withholding sex. We're withholding and how you open up a can of worms. But I'm
not gonna address it. There's an undertone going on now that I'm and I brought his name up before Academy Samuels that he says women control the access to sex men control the access to relationships. So it's like, yeah, we'll date you, but we won't marry you. So that is a real phenomenon is going on
right now. And that's all over on the gender war front. We wish we wish, you know, we cover the front here of the of the World War, you know, now we're on the race front, but we always go back, you know, the generational and, and the gender front as well. So that is being fought over there. It's funny that you said that, but that is a sponsor, but that is we have a lot more work to do. Is that not me? Is that being recognized by black women? Oh, hell
yeah. Are they? Yeah, he has five to six women call on and every one of his shows showing that frustration if I will date you but we won't marry into you meet our and what I'm saying. We're not talking about all women here. We're talking about the strollers. You know, the people like the last Speaker that they want to pick and choose when they want to be feminist or whatever it is,
like, they can take their black off and own. And it's like normal woman, you know, and I'm all for all women, you know, and it's like, either you're with us or you're not. And like, and I always say that those kinds of women and know these kind of people in general that use black lives are the minority, but that
allow minority. So it sounds like everybody is saying this, but they but what they're given is a bullhorn by the mainstream media that make you think all black people are saying this, when it's only a few talking heads that and it's funny that she was saying that, you know, the media won't given us permission. You know, you had to clear every word you said with msnbc before you got to Mexico? Absolutely. You better believe that you had to pre interviews the whole nine,
man, not that boy. But that's what I'm saying. They can use sacrifice word, Nancy Pelosi can use sacrifice word, but when Neo says And then he said Georgia, Florence gave a sacrifice for his children, not just this, but you know, so other black kids won't be killed. So that was a that was the media dragon Neo for that as well, or just this one particular YouTuber, whatever, you know, it was all over. It was well, that but you
know, the media is led by social media. So whatever this, whatever the narrative is on social media, the media runs with that. I mean, they don't really have any creativity. And you know what? People should appreciate that mean, you could come here and have this honest conversation. We're in a vacuum. You know, we don't really care what the outside thinks. But we had to have these conversations. And that's really the bedrock of
the Mofaz Adam Curry podcast. So I wouldn't want to say that it is and, and we take, we take great, great example and great words, it really is our path to getting here.
The white man and the black man have to be able to sit down at the same table, the white man has to feel free to speak his mind without hurting the feelings about Nico, and the so called Negro has to feel free to speak in the mind without hurting the feeling that the right man will make and bring the issues that are under the rug are on top of the table and take an intelligent approach to get the problem solved.
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I did want to share one quick thought I had during last week's episode when you were discussing Medea. It reminded me of the goddess Medea Medallia. m Ed. Medallia is the Greek goddess of illusion. I couldn't help but think that is what Medea. Medallia is is an illusion hiding their true form of working sorcery. I think I agree with that. I mean, that made total sense to me once once I heard once I saw an episode. And if you saw the Oscars, yes, yes. Oh, yeah.
Doing that transformative thing again. Of course it can also be related to media or just Terry Pilar to Perry Tyler. The religious element to the vaccine also reminded me of the fun Yes, the fun vaccines, an interesting rabbit hole to go down if you have some time. Thank you both. with all sincerity Alexis, thank you, Alexis. One more observation. This is from my big homie. Oh g truth. unplug them brother and plug them. He says that vowels are
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agree that they're a cult. Now we have Rosemount gallon. Well, as some of you know, as some of you don't know, if you've heard my name or read anything on me in the media, I grew up in a cult. And it was a very famous cult called children of God, and it gave me a superpower. It gave me the ability to see the control and the propaganda machine,
especially in the US for what it is and how it harms people. And how the left can harm people just as much as the right if they go very, very deep into it. and ignore all other aspects of kind of reality in a way and, and that you're serving a master that might not be serving you and I always say I come in peace. I am not here to make people feel bad about their political choices. But I am here to say that you might be in a
cult too, if you don't know the signs. And I do believe democrats most especially, are in a deep cult that they really don't know about and aren't really aware of. And I leave the republicans alone more because I do respect people more that are like, this is what we are, this is what we're about. This is what we're against. Whereas I find that the democrats are really pretty much almost against all the same things. They're against changing the world for the better, and
they're for keeping a system in place. That is for so few people and benefits. So few, but they masquerade as the as the helpers. I'd forgotten all about that. Yeah, it's not really discussed that often. But I'd forgotten all about her growing up in a cult. It's so true. And she says she has a superpower. So I mean, we always refer to this as a matter expert. Yes, we break for superpowers. Right. Still waiting on mind. But yes, you have superpowers.
You just don't know that. Well. Yeah, but you got it. Yeah. So but Rose McGowan is not a star. Severe, even jellicle. starch. Conservative No. And for her to cut you even she has some hesitations? Like what if you go deep down and so she wasn't even comfortable saying it. But then she came out and said it that they're called. Yeah. Which I mean, I don't say that lightly. Because when you hear people say that they're whatever, whatever
the divide is, my family won't deal with me. Because I'm on the other side of the conflict. That's scary talk. And unless that is like telltale signs of just speaking back just my my experiences. Will you have a family member like if you want to church per se, and if you want to join that church with them as I can't be around New Haven's? You know, I know are you sinners here? That kind of thing. That's real cultural. And
I see this symbolist here. Well, hopefully she's going to tell us how to identify this. Well, let's go on to 24 I'm embracing in my life right now really just almost healing in a way, not just for me, but for so many others. You know, during the me to media period, it was just triggers for so many women and men alike. You know, everybody really and it was a painful period for very many people. As as it was for me.
Sure they know and my persecution. I know Wait, awakening from being a democrat was so much about what I do and what I say now and so much about realizing how hardcore of a cult it is, you know, it's interesting to women and the people that says it's going to help them Why haven't they achieved anything? Cool. Stop asking these these awful questions. Rose? Well, I've been asking the same thing for 62 episodes. I mean, where the tangible Yeah,
there you go. tangibles that but that's what she's asking for know what you see. And she used the word awakening. And we see these cycles throughout history called great awakenings. I think we're piling on our fifth one right now, where people are waking up from the slumber that the news puts you in, in the spell that puts you under to say, you know, don't wait, wait. I want to trust my eyes, not what I'm being told. And it's very divisive. But I just want I think we're in the midst of
another great away that was her words, not my words. Yeah, I would I would even call it a Renaissance. You know, and so I mean, we're gonna come out of this good thing. So we're gonna come out and have you come out of a renaissance with a lot of great things, including great art. Well, we're going to go back to real facts, real justice written out these narratives that people mean when they when they say
these words, but actually, let's put it on the table. Let's weigh it up, you know, and figure out where what it is and what it isn't not what we were told that what it is what it isn't. So I'm pursuing that and about a coat. We got to go back to show number 32 because we talked about this before this phenomenon, and this was his technology controlling your mind.
I can tell you as a mental health professional, someone who has been helping people get out of cults and mind control and brainwashing situations before the years, constantly, people are confused. What is it called? What is mind control? What is brainwashing? Oh, my, my boss, brainwashes me, oh, advertising, brainwashes me, the government brainwashes me etc. But what I'm here to say is actually, I want to present a model for you to think about a spectrum from healthy to unhealthy influence,
healthy influence. There's informed consent. You know, what you're getting involved with, you know, about the person, there's choice. On the destructive side, there's deception. There's manipulation. On the healthy side, it respects your freewill. it respects your conscience, where the unhealthy side is using guilt, manipulation, fear, manipulation, and wanting you to become a trance, stout, obedient slaves. And we have on this continuum, some themes. Again,
this is not a binary of all or nothing. This is a spectrum. And my call to action is your minds are precious. And only you should control your mind. Oh, man. That's the I saw a bumper sticker. Yeah, for sure. Who was this again? Oh, I forget who that was. That was Steven Hassan. Steven Hassan. From a TED talk. I believe we're seeking. Yes, yes. I think you're right. So they're saying it and it's this thing where something's gonna kill you outside? What go outside protests. Be don't
respect, social distancing. But now that's over now go back in your house because something's gonna kill you outside. And people are just like, okay, yeah, that's that really truly when when it was the it wasn't just black lives matter. It was the protest. I think it was in Brooklyn or in another borough in New York. And it was the LGBTQ Black Lives Matter concert when people were packed.
Shoulder to shoulder. I mean, that was clearly the moment when everyone could know that not just the Coronavirus, lock downs and fearmongering. But also this whole black lives matter that they were both bullcrap. And it's it was months ago now, I mean was a year ago, almost. And this is fascinating that on the flip side of that, if somebody didn't wear that mask, and the cop roughed him up, because the wall was saying he had he deserved it, yeah.
Yeah, you know, you're in a cult when you don't see through that. And that's a scary I mean, cuz I'm on the outside. And when you talk to people that you've known for years, and you try to point it out to them in their reaction, it's like, wow, like, and I think some I said in the note note previously, that they just regurgitate talking points from me, like verbatim, it's over that, but I can't call it anything else. I wish I could
call it something else. But when I, when I was a kid, when I was a kid, the way you would learn a language was with tapes, like a berlitz tape, and you had it on your Walkman. And you had your your headphones on you were you were repeating like a mantra, you were repeating whatever the the instructor was saying on the tape, and you would learn the language. I'm sure it's still done that way to a degree, but it was very specifically, he has stuff in
your ears. You're, it's subliminal. And now with all the noise that's going on around us. You're, you're just doing this, you're literally learning the language, the language of woke, and you're just repeating things in your ear, just like these tapes. When someone says bones, you're lean, you know your Pavlovian response, because you practice it is motion with your lip officer. So when it's like, you know, say, say her name, say her name, say his name, say his name, no justice, no peace.
These are monitors, that's all part of this. I'm all in on the spell stuff. Now. That's so apart as the spell so much. It's so obvious. And it's not just us recognize it. Now we move on, you know, we're on the leading edge of it. But now, it's just like, everybody's starting to see it. And this is just me as sad in one way. But it's just fascinating. And another way that how well it worked. And I'll reiterate this point, and
it's kind of how I did the show on these order. I mean, it's some method to the madness that if we're not locked in our house, 24 seven, yeah, then I don't think the spear works as much. But when your eyes I mean, that's what a call does. It isolates you first and isolates you from loved ones. So, yeah, and that isolation doesn't have to be necessarily a physical isolation, to proximity, although six feet of distance helps. But you can also isolate people by concealing their faces.
That is, well what I'm talking about physical isolation, because I think mean, you don't really feel the isolation cuz we're married and have family. So you're not isolated. I'm talking about the target audience of this call. Singer people. Yes. Thank you. People may have 714 day runs with on the way they go out and go to the grocery store, you know, and come back home. And while they're at home, they're constantly inundated with this with the information. Yeah, it's
scary. Scary times, man. I don't want to be a fear monger. But I know we're all seeing it. We're all seeing it. And that and that energy, that isolation is being converted into very negative energy. Mm hmm. Well, that's the only outlet. It's like, if you can go outside if you if you do what we want you to do, right. And that's the only way you can get out. Yeah. So now we we've talked about mind control. Now we got to see how the mind really works.
Now the actual process of brainwashing is somewhat disappointingly abstract. And in concrete, there's no three step guide to brainwashing your cult followers. The process is more of an art and the science. So here's your scientific three step guide to brainwashing your call followers. The first stage is break people down, you know, get them broken. That's Rick
Ross, no relation, and he's also an expert on cults. He calls this process coercive persuasion, since he's an academic and doesn't have to worry about click baiting YouTube viewers. See you get invited to a talk or a dinner by a group of people that you've never met before. And suddenly you're like the center of attention, and everybody showering you with
affection and praise and trust. And this is something that a lot of cultural do, because that's a very irresistible thing to be at the center of somebody's attention. making people feel special is an overwhelmingly great feeling that traps them in. Overall, in this stage, you need to, as Rick says, talk about everything negative in the world negative in their life, put a lot of pressure on them to crack and
break. And then second, change them. You know, once they're in that broken state, introduce your ideas. So, let me show you how this works. Here's some black people. Hey, black people, I know you've been ignored. But here's your chance for all the corporate America to see you. Black Lives Matter. We're gonna give you equity. Now it's okay. Then they break you down is you know it's that's how it works. standard practice it's so it's it's mind control one on one.
And the thing is people say well, why don't they see the pandering thing about flattery? Yeah, even though you notice a lie. You like it? You like it? Yeah. Yeah. So my cousin, by the way, you know, you put on weight? Well, they're gonna eat it out. Right. And so that's kind of back to my, to my business model question. You know, families like they get all this attention and adoration and they get caught up in it. And it's just regardless, the shared win, because it's like, the family
won, we win. Yeah, you know, these is this is this is these are these are symbolic victories. I mean, you have people going out, right. Um, and saying we did it, we did it know what? You realize you didn't get justice, right? If you say that you might get you know, mean, all I'm hearing is we have more work to do? Well, that's the bread. That's the beat down. It means is this this is like you want for a minute?
Yes, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, there'll be no celebration, we have more walked work to do lots more work to do my control three, as a call leader, you'll probably have some sort of mission for your followers, whether it be political, religious, or something else. The second stage is where you fix it in your followers minds. And people
won't necessarily accept what you say immediately. Because if you're a cult leader, you're probably saying something controversial, something novel, something anti conformist along the lines of Doom is coming. Or let's kidnap people, or hand dryers are the work of the devil. They're loud, they're slow. And you know what, you probably think that they're better for the environment. But the optimistic studies say that they're only 20%. Better, while some others say that they're not
even greener at all. Did you know that hand dryers actually increased the bacteria on your hands by 117%? You're better off not washing your hands at all hand dryers kill. That was just an example. Let me be clear, we're not just talking about Black Lives Matter. We're talking about in one of the biggest calls is the green, green. Climate change climate emergency climate change? Yeah, yeah, that is prophecy. It's there. It's
the religion, the world's gonna end in 12 years. Oh, that's a good way to say when someone says, Oh, I didn't know you were religious. is a prophecy. Yeah. proof. Elder said, I'm gonna use that from now on. Wow, I didn't know you were into religion. It's great. And speaking of which, though, how do they get you here? And now we got to go to one of the band favorites. And I'm not saying this. But I've gotten a lot of feedback on the show I wanted to do for myself. jiofi fire trap was
delight. Well, we visited the victim mindset. How do you stop these mindsets from becoming mind traps, no one likes feeling trapped. Can you remember the last time you were trapped? The problem is we have these thoughts. And our thoughts fortunately, and unfortunately, can create feelings, feelings, both in the here and the now. And it's not necessarily what happens to you. But it's the messages that you give yourself
about what happens that determines your feelings. And not only do our thoughts create all of our feelings, but the thoughts that defeat us are almost always fraudulent or wrong or distorted or illogical. And sometimes they can form a cycle of mentality that becomes a trap. So how do you know how do you know when a mindset has become a mind trap? There's a ancient Greek philosopher named Epictetus who said this that we are disturbed not by things, but by the view in which we take
them. We think it's the circumstances that are depicted that are that are disturbing us, but no, it's It's our view of them. But it's actually disturbing us. Oh, yeah. I'm only on that. It's perception not reality. Yes. That's why you can have some is 250 pounds six, nine hours has almost a billion dollars. They say they they're scared to go outside. Yeah, and many people believe it. Oh, man. Yeah. Sad. Yeah.
Now obviously think about that you have all the resources, you have the physical strength not to be harmed if you choose not to be, you have the resources to put protective measures around you. And you sell Are you either you're selling or you're buying I don't know which one at this point. But, um, and I was speaking about is a King James, but I told you, I told you that we're gonna be on his head and in the fact that he didn't come out and say he was gonna publicly support the vaccine.
That is part of the scrutiny he's receiving right now. Don't don't don't get it twisted. Do not get it twisted. And and and I'll say this case, the day after that, when he made that errant tweet, just put it lightly. Um, he had to drop a pro COVID podcast episode. Oh, really? first of its kind. It was not sport. Yeah. I missed that. The more than the athlete. Yeah, podcast. Yeah. The pressure I'm shot. But they need that. But now we get I get now we got to go into
call leaders. And Bob Woodson tried to warn us about cult leaders. First of all, you cannot generalize about the black community more any other people, we are not monolithic. We have different in education difference in income. And when
it's convenient, we generalize the black community. And we use the demographics of those who are living in the most charged troubling situations we use the demographics of the of the incarceration, of low income, housing, we use that demographic information to make a case that All Blacks are suffering, okay. And then when the money arise, it goes not to the people
suffering the problem. But those who are providing service for instance, in the last 50 years, the government's are $22 trillion of programs to aid the poor 70 cents of all those dollar go not to the poor, but those who serve for people they ask not which problems are solvable, which ones are fundable. Then you have black elected officials, many of them are veterans of the civil rights movement, who then came into political office, they were the ones who were dispensing those
funds. And listen to this, two out of 10 whites with college degrees works for government, six out of 10 blacks, with college education works for government, which means that the vast amount of money that has been spent on the poor and that has produced and reinforced dependency have been administered by a lot of middle class blacks. Don't look at Baltimore. There's your cult leaders. Yeah, it's funny. Isn't that the modern missionary model? We go and collect resources on them
saying the lowest goes to Africa and money there. And the money never makes it to them. The only call that that does it with rich people to my knowledge is Scientology. Right. Yeah, you're right. You're right. But most of the missionary model is that not not not not taking the shots to any missionary. I'm just saying that's the model, that we're collecting money on the behalf of the downtrodden. Right. And that's what's happened. entered one Miss Patrice colors.
So I want to pivot to the reason why you're here. In the last few weeks, there have been stories that have become very prominent in the national media around you, and particularly around issues of spending issues of income specifically, there were two stories that came out that talked about you purchasing homes that you reportedly purchased for homes and we're looking even another home. I believe in the Bahamas, they
were conversations about how you spend money. And the stories also had a lot of innuendo about the source of the relationship between your money and your spending. And then we'll end the questions around BLM global movements finances. So the first thing I want to do is talk about what's true. That has been said and what has been untrue. Good. I'm curious. I want to start Thank you, Mark. I want to just start by saying something that's really important for people to hear.
And that's I have never taken a salary from the Black Lives Matter global network foundation and That's important because what the right wing media is trying to say is the donations that people gave to Black Lives Matter went towards my spending. And that is categorically untrue. And incredibly dangerous. Oh, Hmm. Interesting framing. I'm not so sure that that's what people were thinking honestly. She said I never took a salary. She's very specific. She said
never. She never took any money. Yeah, salary. Well done Mo. She took Black Lives Matter stocks, ticker, tape ticker, BLM. That's where she took not a salary. And you know, I didn't get rich off the donations. She's very careful, cautious, I mean, almost to the point of a politician. Not just almost totally. And he starts out let me say this. Oh, thank you. Thank you Mark for your very,
very performative very, and this is very important. So this is what I want you to focus on. It's not not really the truth is to fudge. And this is how tone deaf they are. Or she is or maybe it's just a way of humiliating and demeaning her followers. She's on her YouTube channel, doing hauls. You know, how's our halls? Ha us, Paul. is a hall is that related to a drag? No, what happens is when you go shopping, oh, sorry. Not like when you go shopping? Yes. When you go
shopping, and get all these, you know, lavish things. Really now Adidas. Yeah, Adidas sent me the shoe. Thank you br say, how Adidas know your size. Wow. And these are the kind of things I had to cover on the live because you have to believe it. I'm sure happy to see them in the visuals that go with it. Oh, her YouTube channel. Thank you. Thank you Beyonce for sending me a divis or whatever she comes to it.
Yeah, ever since that moralized or Well, she got, she got that Netflix exposure coming up. She's got Hollywood kissing her ass as perfect. That's how you do it. She's an influencer as well. colors too. So you haven't taken a salary. So your income that you use to make whatever purchases you've made have come from outside income. You've mentioned on your ID and other people have talked about speeches, studio deals, book deals for your book, I want
to call you a terrorist. Your income has not come from working directly with BLM do. That's correct. Yeah, I'm, I'm a college professor. First of all. I also am a TV producer. And I have had two book deals. My first book that came out was a New York Times bestseller. And I also have had a Youtube Deal. And so, so much of my all of my income comes directly from the work that I do. But I also want to say something, mark that feels really important.
Organizers should get paid for the work that they do, they should get paid a living wage. And the fact that the right wing media is trying to create hysteria around my spending is, frankly racist and sexist. And also, I want to name that many of us who end up investing in homes in the black community often invest in homes to compare their families. So homes that I bought directly support the people that I love and that I care about. Well, now let me just let me just think about this.
mostly white communities I will say that horse of course you know where she's gonna go. Fair point. I mean, it's it's a fair point for her money However, she got it. I don't know. I have no it's not. Not not for me. Not for me. Not the reason why I'm saying this is you say you're Marxist. You say you're for the people. You speak in the terms of living wage, which you're
buying for homes all across the globe. And you're saying in these neighborhoods that you say that the oppressor lives in Yeah, but you don't mind being the the neighbor of the oppressor. And he was saying I go into the oppressive Starbucks and take money from and we know how these book deals work. Come on. I mean, she's hypocritical for sure. But what she said there was actually like Spend your money whatever you want on is
just it she's a hypocrite. And she comes across as a hypocrite and the whole movement seems hippocratic and it's not discussed really at all this is I don't even know where this was from, but that probably was not some mainstream chat. She tucked it away. Of course they did away on this. Uh, I mean, that's Mark Lamont Hill and he's on a YouTube channel news station. I mean, not to knock it because I'm really I'm really hurt right now. Yeah, she's not a friggin creative. She's not a
creative. She's not it's nothing creative. Nothing. We saw that bullcrap stuff that she done. And she has an ad now on the Electric Slide against white supremacy or some crap. It's like resna she says she's a she's a brand, you know, an icon. a figurehead is a cult leader. Oh, stop. is where she is. She's a cult leader. We've seen it before we see it all the time. And it just irks me because Jay collect money on the behalf of people in
the money never met him. I see what you're saying. Okay. Yeah, okay. I gotcha. She is David the david koresh of BLM or Jim Jim Jones. Jones. Yeah. It's arcs me and we know where your money really comes from 32. And I have a very, very specific idea that we need to explore seriously, which is that the anti Bernie Sanders tinge of the Black Lives Matter movement recently could be George Soros funded astroturf, and I will speak as specifically as
possible, Louis. And then I will allow you Lewis to tell me what you think about this. It's widely on record, that George Soros, the liberal billionaire has poured a ton of money into two movements that were instrumental in creating Black Lives Matter and the buzzword dating back to January, we knew that George Soros spent over $30 million bankrolling Ferguson demonstrators and of course, Ferguson relates to Officer Darren Wilson, who killed unarmed teenager Michael Brown
and was ultimately not charged. This includes support by George Soros of groups like color lines, news for action. organization for black struggle, which established itself then established the hands up coalition. Soros also gave money to the Drug Policy Alliance, which worked on pushing Black Lives Matter as a bud buzzword, which has since been incorporated into speech speeches by political figures, including Hillary Clinton. Oh, man, David Pakman. liberal right, quickly we forget
in what she wants to do. And that's for show number seven more money, more problems. That shows you how long we've been saying this. Show seven we're 30 or 62. Excuse me. We pointed out to point this out a long time ago. And I think the thing is, everybody has contempt for these mega preacher mega church
preachers, Joel olsteen. And the people of that nature, they're doing it exact same thing is, is that it's that you plan on people's emotions, to collect money from them, and you're going to foundations and these corporate GM companies to say, we can sell you it was the thing the Catholic Church used to sail to sinners to say you know what, we know you're saying but you can buy your way into heaven. And that's what they say to these corporations. You know, we know and I'm I got to bring this
up. It was another one another lady named Tamika Tamika Mallory cheese and got in with the Black Lives Matter ilk. And she's doing Cadillac commercials at the same time. GM had the case. Yeah, GM had the case going on where they had nooses hanging in there on one of their facilities, and the people will call boys and you're saying all kinds of stuff. So how, how do you go and do that kind of thing? It just irks me because at the same time a person like Neo can't say a black man
sacrificed his life for his children. He shouted down, but y'all sell that privilege to a Nancy Pelosi in the Democratic Party. That's bullcrap. Yeah, well, we need someone to be speak well, whenever someone speaks up, they're like Kanye, and called nuts shoved back in the corner Shut up. Of course. Yeah, that's the best that's what the that's what that's what parts that media but you want to have a fair conversation. That's commerce. Let's have a conversation on the
facts. But it's no it's that's not how it works. A man I must say this, their number Maggard but nothing but cult leaders, and they have a mega church called BLM. All it is and then you have an Tifa you have all these different mega churches, whether it's a global warming or whatever. But even BLM has spin off churches of God little subdivisions, just like the mega churches, mega churches have to have churches in other counties as well. They franchise exactly
they own it. Yep. Wow. And just to give you an example of a mega Pastor 33 tomorrow, okay, TV evangelists can be a little over the top. dollars appeal for clinical Isn't he take the case, we are believing for 200,000 people to give contributions of 300 US dollars or more, doing the math of that $60 million. By the end of the world changers mega church in Atlanta asked for the donations in this almost six minute video of the budget g 650.
In your magazine, he goes streams 650 dollars already a high fly or we're about to land in Nairobi, Kenya. But it seems his current job built in 1984 is showing its age planes getting the engine trouble on the flight to Australia. And more recently, when his wife and daughters were taking off from London, it went off the runway. It's not like a car where you can pull over on the side when something goes wrong. And I knew it was time to begin to believe God for our new
airplane. It didn't take long for the story of the Jesus jet as some have dubbed it to take off and not in a good way. This woman is a former parishioner. She showed up Sunday to protest but God told to leave church property when I was here, and now he has one and he's asking for another one. But parishioner Mary Jones, who takes the bus to Church says she'd happily give $2 jetdrive most definitely Most definitely. We support our pastor that's what we're here for. Oh, man.
You know now lady cash in the bus trying to pay for a pastor cc bought out the $5 million second jet. Well, hold on, hold on. It was the Jesus jet. I gotta give it branding is great. Here's the thing though. This is CME and covering the story and this is what I'm talking about about justice. If we're going to be just then we need to come at her the same way we came at him because they're running the same scheme and you're victimizing
the same people. You have a load of black lady here, riding the bus and giving money to a mega pastor in the mainstream media is just another day to day excoriate this guy. They make fun of a black man. Oh my goodness. It's fantastic. Well, we all have no Jesus jet. But we do love us some new money like brand new money. I just I don't want any money around me. It's not I'd almost rather have a new one than a brand and then an old 20 that's
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this situation. So what I want to do is, since the media has done everything to dehumanize George Floyd from being thought of everything under the sun, including a sacrifice, I want to give perspective, from the addicts perspective very clearly, and I want to give this one I want to keep gotta keep it 100 clearly off the videos that we saw him in the store, he was under the influence or something. I can't say what it is. And then I mean, of course, what the test is well, but that
doesn't mean humanize the person. That doesn't make but that that thing that I believe that gives people certain people, when you have an addiction to treat you like human trash, and that's not cool. That's not cool at all. Because these are people and if you ever have family members that struggle with addiction, you know, they're struggling, that I think that got lost in this whole thing that and I just
want to give perspective. And to do that. There's a there's a source called the soft white underbelly, and they go to skid row, and they actually interview people off of Skid Row. I mean, they they're, they don't bring them. They actually set up on Skid Row and interview in there. And they have they interviewed a heroin addict man, Kevin. Kevin, Kevin, oh, where'd you grow up? Where you from originally grew up in South Los Angeles area. in the neighborhood of Crips, lane
and Crips for young gangsters. I started gangbanging around age 12. And tell me about your family. He grew up with both your parents both my parents in my life and the middle child. How was your childhood? Actually, my childhood has to um, I grew up in a well taken care of family actually. I guess I'm a little older brother, younger sister. You know, as a middle child, you know, you're we are felt neglected, which is probably not true. I just felt
that way. You know, I said we tours are the routes. Yeah. Exactly. gangs, life after you join a gang. But actually, this takes to get back right before the end, actually, was on the right path. You know, the grace I made down the road. You know, one of the top students in my class, you know, who you hang out with is who you are. That's the model is actually true. 30 kids in the neighborhood and I got used to
that. used to that lifestyle. And it took me to get to take a bullet to understand that life is real ish. Because here we have a guy comes from a two parent household, smart kid, which is caught up in the wrong crowd. And his life spowers out of control. I guess we can go on to get to this is when I was 14 over the first time I received a couple
of things you call this the tibia. And he shattered The bone actually, in the bone exposed to the air and which caused me to have what they call osteoma losses, which is a bone infection. osteo means bone loss and infection. And during the time when my bone infection Oh, How's prescribed Norco and first time I ever took that NorCal one that first that first and we're good at first pill. I told myself wow I love this shit. And
I'm addicted. I swear to God the first time I felt that when it kicked in I felt that I said this is a highlight no other and every since then and I've been chasing that high. And you know, it progresses from our goal to actually start biking to Norco from North goat to purpose purposes to oxy codeine without the Tylenol inside the oxy codeine Straight Dope. And got me really on it was just the value of oxy codeine. 30 milligrams in South Los Angeles, three values from 15 $15 to $20.
appeal. And if you see a lot of people in wholesale price, you cannot afford those anyway. I was able to get my hands to get that pill for $1. Man. Oh, yeah. That's Purdue pharma. companies. Yeah, big farmer Purdue pharma. Who paid a couple billion dollars in fines? You didn't hear about it? They were all found killed felony murder rule. Yeah. Oh, felony murder. I should have caught No, Sam. Yeah, of course. No. You know, because if we go and
find Hoffman's right, drug dealers. Yeah. And there's this there's this whole man myth or misconception that there's not an opioid problem in the black community and there is no and you know what, this is another one of those things where the way the media frames it all there was just one Middle America right? But then they also say where they're struggling with a problem. When it was crack, it was like there are animals
they're super predators. They're iOS iOS and of course that the way they frame that is it's not because the who's doing the drugs it's because who who is selling the drugs the fact that they will have the pert well doctors and nangle happen because Dr. Had lobbies This is such an important connection you're making between the Give it to me again what is called the felony murder rule
and the murder rule. That is such an important connection you're making here that now that's some white supremacy right there. systemic racism when you will have you haven't seen a doctor you say a rash of doctors pert walked Where are these people getting these any you heard Kevin safecell narco to Percocet from now Yeah, that's the day
he said it was in the streets cheap $1 appeal. Yeah. And then I want to show you nothing The reason why I use pink elephant pink elephant is a mix between fentanyl and heroin which is eight times stronger than the regular heroine which it takes four to five doses of nor can to get the poor people back and guess what the ignore can prices have went from the dose to 630 dollars a dose crazy Of course. Of course.
What you see here that give you the cheap no cheap solution and the $1 a pill it's the same pill it's just they're just selling it cheap on the street right that's just where they get this abundance appeals from where they get into from the from the pill Mills from the doctors who who just buy that shit up that's what people were convicted I mean paid fine for no one went to jail but that's exactly what was happening they were selling stuff really cheap
through these pill mills and then it just went into drug dealers and then would could charge whatever because the pills are almost free to manufacture and then when the inventory dried up the prices shoot up Yeah. And then you started this shit starts happening then then they have the addicts for lack of better word. They had to find cheaper resources. Yeah. Kevin three code you can imagine he may want to get my hands on that peel for $1 you go crazy. You're
nuts. So once I lost that dead value that dollar value started experiencing withdraws. Man sick, dope sick. I never thought that I never thought I experienced I never thought I'd get To the point I never thought that had to happen. And Brandon fucking be dead. He rather be dead and feel that feeling that dope feeling. I felt that that dope sick. I knew what OPC is not new that here Ron is an opiate. And I know that this is
actually also affordable. So by me knowing, knowing that I know about Skid Row, downtown Los Angeles, I decided to take a take a trip down here. The first person I encountered man asks, Where do you know where to go? Where to hell on first place I encountered? He had I think that dope went home by myself. Not with Nobody. Nobody got me on it. So I want to leave it in that you know, we got these Android phones I went to YouTube I'm trying to see how the hell I'm doing this drove
the car tonight with YouTube instructional videos. How to now if you say don't wear this don't do take this they pull your videos down. show people how to shoot know how to it's in strikes educational. And what he's saying he made that transition not out of choice. I'm dope sick. Yeah. I need affordable I need affordable replacement for the high that this gateway drug. You were saying that? You know that he he didn't start getting hot because he weren't because he got shot. He started taking
prescription medicine. Yeah, a lot of people this is his progress. Yeah. And I just want to put something out. So other people might I know I'm talking a lot, but I want to stress this. If you're about to be arrested and your attic. Uh, you know, you're about to have six days a hell, you're gonna flip out, you might think about running. Yeah. It's I got to give an honest trial, because I know, the next six days, and this is sales gonna be held. This is
mo congratulations yet again. Putting a human face on George Floyd in this manner is spot on. And everyone should think about it. Because now now the movies replaying in my mind, not the nine minutes of the knee, all the stuff before it when he's crying, and I don't want to go and I can't go. And I can't get into the car. Knowing that he's super high, and he and he knows what he knows it's only going to go one direction for him with that feeling.
And this is a common occurrence. When people know they're about to go to rehab or detox or wherever else. Yeah, they take all the drugs they have. And you can see that on the show. And I'm certainly speaking I'm not never used hard drugs like that. So I'm only speaking from what I've seen, but you can see a show called intervention. Once they know they're made the choice to go to rehab and they binge
out real bad. It's time to party. Yeah, it's time to put you know I see I'm going to jail I might as well you're saying you know how does the one last ride but that's human Yeah. I had to say this stuff because this is why nobody got justice because Have you gone rash drug dealers? If he would have drawn flour would it be a foul innocent where they went and the shelving would have been found innocent where they wouldn't have found joy flowing drug builders No, no cuz he's a
nobody in their eyes but how often? We got to go fuck you know why it's not as costly as a celebrity is because he's a commodity to these big Hollywood Studios is valuable. I'm sure he had insurance on him. This is this is my marriage I say that but this is the look your point is very clear is really good mo very clear. Kevin for trying my hardest stay away from that needle man. But I didn't like those two options. And I got a grandmother who was
a diabetic and already had needles in the house. It was already in the house. So I got on YouTube. handheld you are paying this at Westland is that first five minutes should shock that blood shot shot up in the shot right up in that range meaning here go push t t seconds. I think these 10 seconds you had to rush so rushed me in like no other I swear to God to you that rush was 20 100 times way more way more powerful and way more better than their first normal.
I told you I told you Jason who shit on news I knew. I knew I was going back to pills, that first time I banged it. I knew I was not going to take another pill again. But I thought to myself, I took so many pills. I thought I fucked up my kidneys. So I almost thought I was doing myself a favor. Wow. So I just did one YouTube search powder, shoot heroin. Right away. three videos, one of which is published by CNN and another by the public provincial Health Services Authority. Preparing
your drugs. This is all Vancouver. Oh, it's just injecting speedball holy crap. Well, that makes you say anything out of line. Yeah. As far as medical, anything else medical? Well, there's something there's something to be said. For the amount of times we are confronted daily in the media with a hypodermic needle being plunged into somebody's body. In relation to this, you know, it's very it's, it's you're what's the term? desensitizing?
Very much, so it's kind of probably gonna be a lot easier for a lot a lot of people to shoot heroin now that they've you know, we're so desensitized to the needle. Are we getting there? Are we getting there? And another thing I want to point out what Kevin said he says, Our rather die. Yeah. Then be dope sick. Does that mean he will rather kill them to be dope sick? You see how that works? Yeah, I'm not
saying him personally. But it's life or death. If you're suicidal, you can easily become homicidal. two sides of the same coin, perhaps? Yes. Because it's between me and that dough, I gotta have it. And I don't care who Mama, Grandma, whoever else and these men this thing? Those are real people to get victimized by, you know, abusing drugs, their family members. Yeah. Well, I know they
won't call the cops on me. It's crazy. And then you have this guy, another cult leader, Dr. Carl Hart, come out, say, Well, you know, shoot heroin and all that bad. People are they have this idea of someone who uses heroin and some poor soul who is injecting the drug and is a slave to the drug. And they think that heroin is the reason for that person's problem, because that person
definitely exists. But is that the person's problem is not so much heroin as everything else, like the person might have co occurring psychiatric illnesses. I always say, Well, I'm chasing that. Hi, I got the first time. Did I use it? But that's a real Is that a real thing? cuz I've heard so many people say that on documentaries. Yeah. No, because we are willing to accept that right? No, it's certainly true. Like, just think of the first time you
enjoy an orgasm. It's like it was amazing. For me the first time it's like, Am I chasing the first time I had an orgasm? No, of course not. But I'll do I drink that feeling. Like, you can't kill me. What? orgasm can't kill? You certainly can't. What do you guys think? I mean, I understand and he was stressing that he was not telling people to use drugs. He was saying, for people that do use drugs, they're gonna do it anyway. Just like a lot of
people do things you know, you shouldn't do. But it just so happens. So how do you make it safer for people to do it? They didn't make me want to try drugs or want to use heroin or anything like that. him saying that he used drugs and he wasn't addicted. makes it kind of seem like it's okay. In what he said. I'm from a different school. I noticed some parents out there that like, hey, my kids are gonna drink anyway. I rather them drink in the house. I'm not
that parent. My parents weren't that parents. My parents were no you're not drinking and you're not drinking in my house. And if I catch you drinking, I'm a bush as agreed. Yeah. Yes. It's very dad. He said he's a doctor. I don't think he's a medical doctor but he's maybe a professor or have a PhD. But he's a doctor so you know how is not all that bad? Um, but you
know exactly what Kevin said is the actual Skid Row attic. They actually has an author on his side of the football on his arm, open wound he shoot dope into, oh, no, he doesn't know what he's talking about. But again, going back to Kevin in the beginning that he was a great student and just by all you got shot, that could be my son. At home good kids smart. Just get caught up with the wrong people get shot into your life because you were given a pharmaceutical drugs without the appropriate, I
guess, I don't know, education. And it's not like the it's not like the medical industry didn't know heroin was addictive. We went through this in the 20s. In the 70s. He was there. It's like not, not like we didn't experience this before. Yeah. And then he's coming around to say, Oh, you know, heroin that might work. You went to school for 10 years. You can't figure out giving people heroin might have a problem. Yeah. Man, it irks me because you have these smart people come along, but you
know, heroin was not all that bad. I shoot up. Every once in a while. It's interesting to see that the common denominator of issues in the United States but I would wager it's, it's global. We have and it's part of the homelessness problem as well. So we have a real drug problem in the United States, heroin. And one way or the other. I think the introduction is probably most often pharmaceutical. We have Black Lives Matter being sparked off the protests in Minneapolis with with a heroin
addict. And we have the Coronavirus, lockdowns, another biosecurity state pharmaceutical move. It's it's all big pharma man, it's like it no matter where you turn it, what's it Why is not being discussed? Because advertising on TV, so there's no there's no message. And just because they're advertising on TV doesn't just mean that that, that there's no message against them. It means they're controlling the message.
Well, and the and the further your point. Now Baltimore wants to stop prosecuting drug possession. Oh, boy, don't you skip 40? Are you skipping 40? No, excuse me. I don't know that there was 40 minutes 40 I'm sorry. Yeah. You still got time now? Mo. Yeah. I am therefore announcing that our COVID policies will now become permanent. And America's failed war on drugs and drug users and the city of Baltimore is over
a change in handling crime. The shift following a year long study involving the Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health, looking at policies put in place Johns Hopkins for the Coronavirus, and how those policies impacted
crime. These are Baltimore City States Attorney Marilyn Mosley's first public statements, since a lien for non payment of back taxes was placed on the home she shares with her husband, city council president Nick moseby and a federal probe into the couple's campaign records.
So I'm not going to discuss that matter. I would refer you to my attorney moseby says she is working with police and other community partners when it comes to those violent offenses, carjackings murders, armed robberies, attempted murders, and drug distribution, we are still prosecuting you, the police will still arrest you. But on these low level offenses, we are no longer utilizing our limited resources on these low level offenses.
She says prostitution, public urination and other minor crimes will be handled as public health issues and turned over to the community partners that she's working with. To find solutions. Crime is a symptom of the disease of our society. For years, we have asked the police to address this disease by locking people up. We merely address the symptom, not the disease. Today, we have a prosecutor who has demonstrated a confirmed for equity and confirmed for justice and a confirm for public safety.
And this is the exact same words I was Tina and I were just reading it this morning in Austin, Texas, which we're going to move outside of the same thing moving the police services, even the management of 911. Over away from the police department, to the community partners to community partners. Exactly. And private industry at the golf course. And there's and there's zero evidence that this works or in fact, the evidence is contrary it just it shows it's a horrible idea.
And it's fascinating in this clip she says the lockdowns were staying but drug use will be opened up coming from john hopkins you gotta love it right that's the way to talk. Chord all the while while she's dealing with a with a legal issues of her own. Yeah. And is a Baltimore resident and get it kind of points out in this short clip. It makes me wonder if there's some of the motive behind the
actual announcement. In other words, is it because we are trying to give the community a break, trying to give certain people a community a break? Or some other political reason why the the prosecutors don't want to don't want to continue prosecuting. So that's my main concern is in other words, it's not that they don't want to there's not it's a bigger picture, that they want to try to solidify their position in politics, by making it appear that these things are no longer important. Yeah,
but we should have saw this coming. Because this was predictive programming in the show called the wire. Okay, you know, I've never I think I've watched one episode I've never I know all about it. Claire Danes, right. Yes, I've never watched it. totally understand the concept. People keep telling me I'm crazy. I don't watch it. I would love it and I Best TV show ever I know I gotta put it on my list. I'm crazy. And this this show their predictive programming, the birth of hamsterdam.
As of this tour, all hand to hand undercover buys of CDs are suspended in the Western District. And whereas back in the dawn of time, this district had itself a civic dilemma of epic proportions. The city council just passed a law that forbids alcoholic consumption in public places, on the streets and on the corners. But gone is in a was and it always will be. The poor man's lounge to a man wants to be on a hot summer's night is cheaper than a bar, catch a nice breezy
watch girls go by. But the law is the law Western casserole and by what were they going to do? They arrested every dude out there for tipping back at highlife to be no other type of any other kind of police work. And if they looked the other way, they'd open themselves to all kinds of flaunting all kinds of disrespect as before my time when it happened, but somewhere back in the 50s or 60s there was a small moment of goddamn genius by some nameless Smokeout, who comes out to cut rate one day
and on his way to the corner. he slips had just bought pint of elderberry into a paper bag. A great moment of civic compromise, as small wrinkle as paper bag, allow the corner boys to have the drink in peace. And he gave us permission to go and do police work. The kind of police work, that's actually
worth the effort. It's worth actually taking a bullet for initial initial This is about police officers name, a veteran police officer named Buck Bunny. And what he does is he convinces all the drug dealers to move their train down to these abandoned or so called abandoned blocks where people still live there. But it's like out of sight out of mind because he was tasked with getting the rest down percentages down. Right. So
he's like moving over here saying go down there. But he ends up creating an environment called hash Dan, which looks like Skid Row. And he brings the pastor down there called Deacon and this is what Deacon sees What in God's name did you do? I'm just trying to make my district liberal. write up a few blocks in a few places. But I saved the rest. No offense but you liked the blind man and the elephant is a lot bigger than what you got your hand when you just can't
see it. See what a great village of pain and you're the mayor Where's your drinking water? Where's your toilets? Heat? electricity where's the needle truck? The condom distribution to drug treatment anti theft these people are down on the feet never gonna catch what's killing them. Look, they know worse often when he was all over the map. And now they just in one place does all that places hell.
And what do you say we sacrifice a couple of blocks. And this is where this is gonna be extrapolated out to will sacrifice the black neighborhood. Yeah, because if you're not bothering them, they're sending the Users, they're gonna stay there. Because the last thing they want to do is get it rested. They're like, okay, we know these are safe zones. Yeah, that's basically the east side of Austin. Yeah, and this is what this show was filmed in Baltimore. Yeah, I
know, almost 20 years ago. And now all of a sudden the epicenter of legalizing drugs. You want to tell me this was a coincidence? Yeah. No, and this is what I can tell you. And this is what happens when his bosses find out where is the West Baltimore drug trade? Major, these are not staged photographs. You're showing us No, sir. No deputy, I found another approach. I'm all ears bunny. moved them off corners.
God dammit. Don't be coy. With me manager, I can see that. What I want to know is how the fuck you managed to move them and where the fuck they are now. Deputy. I don't know quite how to put this but we. I mean, I began by identifying those areas of my district with drug traffic it was least harmful and proceeded to push all street level dealing towards those areas. And at first dealing with
the juveniles on him corners. I love success. But ultimately, by rounding up all the mid level dealers in my district, and making them offer they couldn't refuse, I was able to make them an offer is either they move their people to one of three designated areas where drug enforcement was not a district priority. Or they face the wrath of every April body soul in my district. Major, I don't understand. The only time we can hold a drug corner is when we assign offices to stand there. Your slides
don't suggest any conservative deployment on any corners. How were you able to Christ unit? Don't you see what he's done? He's legalized drugs. Actually, I like to to ignore them. He lost your fucking mind. He's lost his fucking mind. You in my office now? Oh, so that's 20 years ago, and today we basically have the South Side of Chicago, very small area where all the crime is taking place. Yes. Wow. You waited 62 episodes to explain that to me.
timing. All right. You know, one of the biggest proponents, whether or not it's not south south Chicago, it's Baltimore. But it's the same thing. It's the same. exactly exactly. What you do in a war, right. Or I mean, it seems appeared, you surrender a couple of fronts. You know, this is my point is that in Baltimore, in Chicago, soon coming soon in Austin in there in New York City. It's all a
very small area. It's all a small group of actors. And that's the black on black crime that is reported as a weekend statistic, but never really reported on because that's exactly what it is. Cuz I think it's gonna be a drug utopia. Drug beefs, are going to lead to murder, more murder, right? A lot of times people get claimed by going to jail. Yeah, I mean, because they just have to be forced to get off of it. And I'm not saying I'm not advocating that if you can get him into rehab,
that's fine. Or at least it also makes it really easy for the new users who are coming off of the pharmaceuticals to find where, as we heard from Kevin to find where all the crap is going down where you can buy wedding say I went right to skid row. Exactly. Oh, my God. Again, two episodes. Okay. Spoiler alert, one of the biggest proponents of drug, what they call decriminalizing drugs. With NIDA guca. You ever heard
of her? Yeah, I have actually, what is a fake she's trying to be a she's trying to be appointed to the, I think deputy, what's the highest position in the Department of State Department State Department. Loretta Lynch, was it? Well, that'd be Secretary of State. Yeah. But the deputy she's trying to be the deputy secretary. Sure. Right. Yeah, that's a big deal. That's what Victoria Nuland was for Hillary Clinton. So yeah. All right. Well, she's put in the show notes.
Well, what she's trying to do is she's trying to be confirmed. Well, we have as she's trying to be a confirmed this GOP senator brings up very interesting facts about her. This good guy is the daughter of a gentleman who heads up a chemical company produces all sorts of chemicals for a variety of legitimate purposes. And it looks like from her financial disclosure statement. He's been very successful and so has MS. Gupta and family trusts worth 10s of millions of dollars,
including the stock of aven. Core, the company that her father heads. Well, I realized Miss goop is not personally responsible as a shareholder in this company, but it is clear, I believe, from a investigative journalism story by Bloomberg, dated September 2020, that avatar was selling a cdkn hydride an essential ingredient in converting poppies, to heroin Holy shit, for at least the last decade, she owns 10s of millions of
dollars worth of that stock. I've asked the Attorney General in the Securities and Exchange Commission to look into avatars conduct because of it, and if in fact, an American Chemical manufacturer has been selling seat again, hydride in the country where they know that it will be available to the criminal cartels and drug runners. And they should know that 92% of the heroin made in Mexico using the seadek anhydride. manufactured by aven tour and its subsidiary in
Mexico. That's a serious, serious problem. Okay, now this gets even better. It's coming back to me now. She was confirmed as Associate Attorney General. And I did not know this at all about her family and her background. First of all, you look at this woman, she looks like she looks like the angel of death, man. You've got I'll put a picture in the show notes. But to hear all this, I mean, this is
you know, it's tied into this. The reason we're never going to leave Afghanistan where all the poppies are. This is a huge, huge push and take over the pharmaceutical industry is shooting us up left and right. And if we won't do it ourselves, though, force us to do it. Oh, you know what? All the people that the democrats posted support the migrants. Why are they fleeing because they're being forced to
work for the cartels to grow the poppy. There her dad's company allegedly sales that may ingredient the cut heroin or to manufacture heroin. Yeah, man, this is great. Ah, what a super clip to let's continue on with 46. In May 2019, a small counter narcotics unit was rolling down a country road in the rural part of Sinhala, which was the center of the global drug Empire created by an El Chapo Guzman. They were overcome by a pretty powerful smell. They they were
literally stopped in their tracks. And it's one of the things that people on these counter narcotics squads are looking out for smelling out for in this case is that they got out of their vehicles. And through a clearing of trees. They found five cauldrons that were being used to produce heroin. And they also found four jugs of a chemical called acidic anhydride. That was made by a major multibillion dollar
American company, and the product brand was JT Baker. And that chemical is the only thing other than the sap from OPM flowers that you need to manufacture heroin. And under international drug laws, it's one of the most highly controlled of these chemicals sold anywhere in the world, except Mexico. The great tragedy for me in investigating this was the idea that any American company could be involved in that even if it's unknowing.
It really made us feel like we had to do everything we could to expose the situation and make it public. Was that from that was from a special I think, I think that was a Bloomberg report that they were speaking about is Ray. I'll get you the whole it's the whole like 17 minute show and I'm gonna This is not a drug addict show or drug abuse show, but I was wanting to show you Okay, we've talked about the felony murder rule. I want her daddy hauled in, and her and her and her Rico
cases on all of them. This is a cartel and we saw this before with the Clintons coming out of Mina. When I said the boys are back in town, the boys are back in town. Yeah, but they're rocking the horse this time. Instead of the Instead of ski in the powder, right well, oh, wait, this shows nowhere. Yes, But wait, there's more. So Kevin, for Kevin? Yeah, hey, clean yourself up and I'm gonna show you the power of people. When he did that episode that we pulled the
first clips from. That's the poor he got in the comments. Let him to clean himself up and get drug free. That's how people were taught about karma whatever you want to call it. Yeah, that's the power people have when people support people and he's my cousin, my first cousin when we grew up in the same household we call each other brothers named Wenzel Hall and you know, that's my world that's my that's my heart
that's someone I never had I never endured that pain. I still want to this pain I don't think it ever healed is that this pain this loss that I took in? I wish I wish it upon no one but I know we all have to go through it and I know that some people have worse or worse a tragic accident me but this is my tragic and I handled it the wrong way. I self medicated again on a drug that is opiate, they call it findlaw right back is the reasoning thing. Obviously okay. So very
dangerous drug. And I know that I shouldn't fuck around with this. So that's why I'm here today to let you guys know that I kind of fucked up a little bit. And I need your help your support and wise early, early stages of like get the hell off that shit too. I'll kick her on as I keep this as to more dangerous than heroin it yes, it is brought to you by China 48. By now, you may know a family shattered by the opioid
epidemic. In 2017. There were 47,000 opioid deaths. That's more Americans and were killed in vehicle accidents or by firearms. One drug fentanyl is like rocket fuel and the sharp rise of this crisis. fentanyl is a painkiller invented in the 1960s and used to relieve the agony of advanced cancer. It is 50 times more potent than heroin. But today, fentanyl can be ordered on the internet by drug dealers and addicts for an online overdose.
The target said that he can get any drugs he could ever imagine over the internet from China. Conan's investigators went online and discovered overseas labs offering most any illegal drug and we just said hey, according to sources instructions, we're interested in buying fentanyl. And the result was say the least
surprising. And we have dozens probably we're 50 different drug trafficking networks reaching out to us saying we have fentanyl we have even more powerful fentanyl analogues whatever you want we'll get if you're cheap we'll get it for you in bulk you got 50 replies at least and all of these came from where it was universally China even cheaper dope now I mean I'm depressed even cheaper dosa was the pharmaceutical the heroin and when you when you can't get heroin or people stepping on it
with like I said pink elephant. Yeah. Just bigger to fit now. I guess it was it was in bear with China. Mexico and everything and the pharmaceutical company. The police, you think I posted my number one concern is the police and I'm gonna say this and you say and we can wrap on this. Here's the thing. I don't care which side of the argument you are on this case you didn't get justice. period
and that should bother you like it bothers me. Because it because if you thought you think you if you think it was murder one and it should be for own trial for murder one bad bad the law of the land, not by my opinion. You can't pick issues when you want to apply laws. That's the problem. And if you want to say he was not killed by that police officer same drugs killed him. I need to see a pert Walker ghouta her father, all the fentanyl supplies from China if you got a Batman, zip line a
man and pull them out. I don't care. Because if you really care but you know what and I say this to the end this world I don't care about really nobody but specifically black man unless we have something to offer George boy had his life to author offer. There was another person populate, struggled with addiction named DMX who lost his life. It's the same thing. Now one half is saying it was drugs. He had a relapse. Another half is saying he took the vaccine. We need justice for him as well.
Oh, no. This is probably one of the most impactful episodes we've done. He really got to some core here and it's so multifaceted. It is right in front of our face is right in front of our face, but we are being manipulated by the media which won't tell us the whole story. Well, you definitely helped get a lot of the story out on the On this episode, and I appreciate it. I know everyone else who's
listening appreciates it. The producers appreciate it. If you want to support this work, please go to Moe facts calm it is important. I mean, I personally get so much value from this just learning and thinking and stuff that I completely know and intellectually it's like oh my god, like you get so I mean even I get fuzzy, I get clouded over I get distracted. This was really good reset. In fact, it is the great reset by mo fact Thank you mo I just thank you
again it was fantastic. I can't wait for the next episode. I hate to say it was I wasn't enjoyable making this because I had to deal with the programming myself. I got angry at sometimes. I mean I'm not immune. But luckily I know I see first understand it and then to be understood. And as I always say pay attention to everything and the true reveal itself. Ladies and gentlemen, fellow American lady Americans This is James Brown. I want to talk to you about one of the most deadly
killers in the country today. I hadn't seen the other night and I was sitting in my living room goes off to sleep so I started dreaming a dream I was gonna Blaze and so I really strange weird objects that ended up talking to the people and I found that it was a drug and pulling your veins he said I came to this country without a
passport. Ever since then. I've been handed my little white greens and nothing but waste, salt and deadly and bitter to taste but I'm a world of power and all those to use me once and you will know if I can make a meal schoolboy forget his books.
I can make a world famous beauty collection looks I can make a good man for sick his wife's and a greedy man to prison for the rest of his I can make a man forsake his country and flag make a girl sell her body for $5 bags something my adventures and Joanna but I put a gun in your hand and make you and sell a ban bags I found my way to heads of state to gentlemen play upon us and China ready to ban I'm respected and taken and I'm legally insane I take my attics and make them steel bar on me.
Then assessable a vein and their armor. So be you Italian Jewish black comics. I can make the move for love man forget that sex. So now my man you know do your best to keep up your habit until you're raised now the bullies have taken you do you identify me? I must lie in that conadi where I can't get to you with this copper we're gonna call six days of madness you might throw me off but you pick me up Brenton. All three of you become resolved to your young man or woman.
I'll be waiting at the gate. Don't be afraid Don't run. I'm not sure. My name is He will be back but take your foot in the stirrup and make hay and write him. For the white horse I'm here with you do l. Hill, brother. Rubbish and get away from that