48: Shootist

The facts with Adam curry for September 5 2020. This is episode number 48. And there he is once again the man with the golden voice. Mo facts Mo Mo how're you doing? I'm doing good Adam, how about yourself? Well, it's been a crazy two weeks. First of all, I'm glad we're back together. We skipped an entire week you were down the rabbit hole, which we'll get to in a moment. But I think Monday or Tuesday, my interview with Joe Rogan comes out. And either

I'm gonna sound like the biggest nut job in the world. Or maybe maybe I got to spit some more facts. We'll find out. There was a lot of substances involved. But yeah, it was. It was a lot of fun. I can't wait to hear I'm waiting like everybody else for it to drop. I can give you I can tell you what's one thing that did happen is I'm like well, you know me and my buddy Momo facts. You know, we're in he says, Wait a minute, wait a minute, wait a

minute. Your friend's name is really that I said? Yeah. Mo, which is Mo what I said mo Maurice Mo. Mo fax. That's his name. I said, this m o efactz.com. Plug life, live in the big plug life. So we'll see. And based on I think our producers who support this show, who of course, since we've been gone for two weeks will be thanking them in two different segments, because that's the support has been phenomenal. I got a DM this morning from Hotep. Jesus. And he says, yeah,

he said, You need to come on the show. Can you can you come I think September 25. And I said, Oh, yeah, sure. And I sent him a link to mo fox.com says, oh, yeah, he says, What did you say? I don't want to misquote him. But I think was something like dope. I've heard good things about it. So he said he was gonna listen about that. Interesting. Yeah, very interesting. Yeah. So great Twitter for you, man. Great. Very Gray, very, very gray. One more thing before we get started

with the with the stuff for today. No one gender meetups.com is where producers of the no agenda show organized meeting up together. And they're starting to combine meetups because there's such a heavy crossover between the no agenda tribe and the MO facts tribe. In so many different aspects. And apparently there was the second mo agenda meet up. And I believe this is from Michigan.

Hey, Adam and Mo. We got a dozen people here in Michigan celebrating our second mo facts meet up after the Chick fil A one in February. Tonight was Popeyes. We love them both. And we just wanted to remind everybody that the truth is that it's nice man. Well, I guess you can organize a mo facts or mo agenda meetup. No agenda meetups.com. Very cool. Thank you so much, guys. All right. Well, what are we doing? What else we have here? Well, wait a minute. I have a couple of things on my list. I

gotta get out there before we get into it. Okay. And it's cause for celebration. Oh, well. Brett what are we doing? What are we doing? Well, I'm blowing the horns what's going on? Happy birthday to two of my favorite people. One being you just celebrated a birthday. Yes, I did September and the other one is to only fan uncle Richard. Birthday on the floor. Another fine Virgo man like myself very nice. Alright, Uncle Richard. Cool. Very cool. Oh, you know what that means? That

you know what this has started? Well, you start with this before you know it. We've got a birthday list. It's the funniest thing that we could we could the best gift I could think to give uncle Richard I only fan is for you to spin that wheel. Oh, right. For uncle Richard. We are going to do the one thing that only read the manners. It's the thing that we need to do every single

show because what is the topic for today? Nobody knows. But when we hit that we'll have topics round and round and goes we find out what we're going to talk about today. Maybe Moe knows we'll find out the topic for Moe facts with Adam curry 48 is black on black crime? Okay, it's something like for today's topic Nice. All right. Okay, everybody take cover. Deep breath, this will be this thing. Yeah. This is why it took two weeks. Yeah, it literally took two

weeks. Ah, up until the last minute rearranging clips, take clips out. Because you as you know, this is the third row, and racial slash politics conversation. And it's something that to be on? Well, I really of course, I look forward to episodes like this because this is where I get

to learn an incredible amount. But just from a white American perspective, I you know, what is often said is, you know, in as it pertains to some news report, well, nobody talks about 50 people in Chicago, black on white crime, and how to do the voice. Was that pretty good? And I've done it myself. The exact statement is, what about Chicago? What about black on black crime? Chicago?

Yeah. And yeah, of course. And can I ask you right off the bat, just since that's what we do. When you hear someone say, How would someone like me say that? Or what about Chicago? Does that does that trigger anything? Do you think? Is it something that comes up in your mind when you hear it, it can come across as a cop out? Because you don't want to talk about what the topic was on? Okay. And two, is a non

starter is that put that on the list of non starters. If you're going to come at at the angle of counterbalancing, police violence, and you know, police, probably police brutality counterbalancing with black on black crime, the two things need to be discussed in depth independently of each other.

They're both a problem, one being larger than the other. And surprise, surprise it being black on black crime is the bigger problem, by far, but yeah, but I will say this, oftentimes, when it's brought up is brought up disingenuously and to deflect from a conversation somebody really doesn't want to have on the topic that's brought up. Well, the way that yeah, the way the way that I might have used it in the past would be it's interesting. You say that, yeah, in a way to deflect

homeless, I'm just trying to collect my thought. Now, that's interesting, because it would probably be someone saying, Well, you know, this, this, there's the Yeah, I think you're right, it would be white cops killing blacks. And then it would be well, there's only been nine this year. And then oh,

what about Chicago? Yeah, okay. It's a deflection because I think that the, the, there's no willingness to actually discuss, I think it's okay, here we go. From my perspective, because there never seems to be a willingness to discuss the actual numbers, just as a statistic because the claim from white cops killing black men is disproportionate to black on black. But that conversation you'll usually go through well,

they only represent this portion of the population. So it shouldn't be that but they represent 80% I mean, it's all these fucking Now me, I promise that Yeah, exactly. Exactly. Go to the FBI crime stats. So we're not gonna use any FBI crime stats, and you asked me a question I want to answer when why here? What about black on black crime? What about Chicago? Yeah, we know what the facts law the MO facts law or rule that every racial conversation eventually devolves to Chicago

it's like Hitler on on white forums. Everything in black forums goes to Chicago. I gotcha. Chicago, but when I hear that is the way I could hear it, but I'm I dissect things myself personally, but the way I could hear it is What's one more black dead black guy? Me? Doesn't, you know, What's one more? So I get it. I get like Chicago, and then what was it nine more? Oh, shit. Okay. Yeah. All right.

Let's good. So that's why we did it. This is what this is why we have these conversations so we can demystify and really get to the root of the problem. Yeah. And it's multiple problems with this topic. But since we brought up the mecca of black on black crime as the media will have it, let's get right to fighting to stop Chicago's gang killings. Chicago making international headlines this morning after a

violent and bloody Fourth of July. We're more than 100 people were shot since Friday, 14 of them are datings and violent crime have skyrocketed in Chicago for decades, Chicago has struggled to shake off its reputation for gun violence, while 2014 saw the murder rate fall to its low Worst in more than 40 years, since then there's been a worrying increase. In 2016 762 people were killed in a city the

most since 1996. On the campaign trail, Donald Trump repeatedly lambasted the city, Chicago, what the hell is going on in Chicago. And in June, he announced a federal task force would be sent to assist Chicago police. I've come to Chicago to spend time with grassroots organizers who work in some of the city's most dangerous neighborhoods, trying to stop the violence. Okay, we are indeed at ground zero. So this is Adam gabot, from The Guardian. And a couple of points

I want to make. His statement was in 2014, the murder rate had fallen into his lowest level in 40 years. So we ought to put these like, we had to put these things in perspective in Chicago violence, a problem, of course, is a huge problem compared to the 80s and 90s. Or even if you go back 40 years, not at all. New York, Chicago, DC used to have, you know, almost doubled the violence that they have now. Well, it's trending back up. But we have to put these numbers into perspective.

Why do you think the shooting and the murder rate has gone up over the past two years? There's no structure. See, it used to be organizations will few guys at the top. They called everything sanctioning or whatever. But nowadays, you got cliques whose and they might all know each other grew up together and everything. But now they just you know, they just going with a warrant and trying to make a name for itself. And communities they come up in and

they can't get no jobs to do. So they just wireless. You know, Sam. Yeah. So this is us for on the outreach outreach outreach worker from ceasefire. He just speak into the really decentralization of these gang structures. And that's what's really causing the uptick that you're seeing now. What do you what do you mean the decentralization? Can you explain that? Well, before it used to be like, militaristic, where you had no commander in chief generals, lieutenants, that kind of thing,

and it was very organized, structured. Now it's more of there is no rank. Oh, it's more I mean, their rank still there. But it's, it's more like a flat flat hierarchy now. Or a feudal, feudal system, a system where you have, yeah, well, you have these pockets of power. And before you had to earn your way up now, it's like, I'm willing to take you out now. 1415 years old, I want my respect now. Which we had the look at maybe this is a microcosm of the breakdown in

the home. And no leadership, no patriarchy in the homes, there was no one paid. Not even understanding of what of what a hierarchy or patriarchy is anymore, perhaps. Right. And it's dissolved in the streets. Yeah, you know, I mean, the men are here because sad to say the, the male lead structure, even in street gangs, is not there. And I'm gonna say something now, I need to say it now. I am not anti organized crime. Because I am not a I'm a person that, you know, it's not

naive. kromm is going to exist in a society and civilization. I think when you have organized crime, and when it's done properly, it keeps from it affecting this civilians. You don't get random people shot on the street, you don't get children scared to walk up and down the street. Because in every in every society, and this, this goes back to the

black on black crime thing. In every society, there's crime. In every society, there's organized crime, but you don't see dead children of other ethnicities and their communities and on their streets, like you do see in black and more, and probably Brown as well, but not as distant as black. Okay, so I just want to lay that

Yeah. So in this case, you referring specifically, to inner city to black gangs, that being organized crime because we can't be against organized crime, otherwise, all politicians would have to go because that's the biggest criminal organization

there is. But I if I understand what you're saying, because the lack of organized crime in these gangs is actually much worse than it would have to be if it was if there was a leadership structure and there was actually a leader that you could talk to and we could have leaders are figuring stuff out You mean like that? Exactly. And I'm not even pro I'm not pro organized crime. I know it's a necessary evil. Because crime vise alcohol not not now, but even in you know, in early parts of America,

alcohol, gambling, prostitution, these things are realities. So it's are you going to have structure to that reality or no, because there's going to exist. Right. And I think what we're seeing now in this modern day, quote unquote, black community and black on black crime, is the lack the decentralization is kind of like when you take out Osama bin Laden or host Saddam Hussein. Now you have eight warlords. Yeah, exactly. A vacuum is filled up how back on? Yeah, gotcha. Okay. Clear.

That's what you're seeing now. So that's where we're at. So next, we have Cory Brooks, and he's the executive director of Project hood. Another organization is trying to help out Chicago. Well, people I spoke to really want is more funding for community projects. But getting that money can be difficult. Project hood is a nonprofit funded by donations. It gives hands on training in professions like carpentry and business, to young people who have been caught up in gang life and want

a way out. Trump has spoken about Chicago in pretty strong terms, carnage in a city violence, like Does he have a point when he talks about needing to send in the feds? Absolutely not. The feds are not what we need. Job creation is what we need. That's the reason why we're building this facility. We don't want you to come and give us your government paycheck or your government food stamps. No, we want to create people that want jobs and help people get jobs. That's what

sustains people. And that's what creates family. And if we can get a president to do that, I believe that the direction of our communities change drastically. So that was interesting, because I don't think he answered the question. I understand his answer, of course, but the the question was bringing more Feds which I think made more police officers and the guy said, no, no, no, we need jobs and stuff that Trump is giving us. I think that's what he was saying.

And and and Mr. Adam on Gab, it was very deceptive in the way he conflate it. Two questions. One was the Trump's rhetoric rhetoric, about you know, Carnage and violence. And though things are nature and extreme, and then he conflates it with his statement about bringing in the Fed. Exactly. So it's a very tricky question, if you listen to how x it, um, well, it's from the BBC. We know the Brits are racist moments and nothing, of course, and probably wants to do a course on the last show.

But if you look at it, the question, of course, he agrees that there's carnage on the streets and his violence or he

wouldn't be willing to get these projects. Right. Oh, but I do agree bringing in affairs is not the right is not the right solution to the problem, bringing in federal aid, federal programs, job programs, or reinstating family, um, these kinds of things what he was saying, but there is a county commissioner name Richard Boykins that has another solution for Cook County, far too common in Chicago police investigating a shooting and heavily armed United Nations peacekeepers operating in some

of the most dangerous corners of the earth. Now there's a push to bring them here. Good evening. I'm Rob Johnson. And I'm Erica Sargent. A Cook County commissioner wants to get the peacekeepers to Chicago to battle our violence problem, but it would be an unusual move. Consider this from a un promotional video. Peacekeepers often operate in hostile environments where others cannot or will not go. CBS two political reporter Derek Blakely picks up our story.

They've helped stop the fighting in war torn hotspots across the globe, from Syria to Sierra Leone. Now well Cook County Commissioner is appealing for UN peacekeepers in Chicago's crime ridden neighborhoods. I know that there are those who say that this is an admission that we can't protect the people in the city but quite frankly, we haven't protected them. But one West Side Alderman whose Ward is plagued by violence rejects the military analogy.

This is not war. I mean, we may have some daunting statistics. But again, military intervention is not the answer. Alderman Ervin says it's an economic intervention, not a military one that's needed to stop Chicago's violence. Here's a I remember this story and I remember laughing about it like what the hell is this? But now actually, in context of what you said at the beginning of the show. If the numbers were twice as bad in the 70s 80s, and they came down On in the mid 80s 90s,

yeah. So they've come down and you know, by by by half, and now they're they're trending up or that, of course, they're they're never good. What did they do is my question, what were they doing previously that seemed to be working? Was that is there something that we can point to? It was something that if the Giuliani tactics, well, that was pretty much Well, that was Bratton that was the chief of police and he came in and cracked heads as far as I know.

Right? Um, we're not going to say that. The crime bill didn't clean up the streets, because of course, we got millions. Julio Giuliani and Bratton was before the crime bill. That was no what I'm saying is that the the change from the rehabilitation because even Biden's rhetoric started before the crown be right. It was the really with that, I think it was, ah, what is this, but I'm just saying Manhattan Manhattan had changed

significantly. By 1989 1990. It was it was already really changed way before the that was when a Democrat started saying we're past rehabilitate Rockefeller, I believe it was, they said we're past rehabilitation. The Democrats got really strong on crime that started in their really early to mid 80s. And then it just worked his way up to the crime bill, but the mentality was lock of everybody and that's what the congressional congressional

black caucus was calling for. And honestly, that's what the citizens were calling for was to clean up our streets. Now cleaning up our streets that mean lock up everybody in the neighborhood either. Bringing the UN peacekeepers, midwives, UN peacekeepers is a little bit overblown. And I'm glad you got to that point because if people really back up here and take a step back and look what we're seeing here, we're having this super predator narrative. Re volatile yummy coming back.

It's coming right back. And it weren't I mean, looking at who was running for office. I mean, to be honest, that is a deja vu isn't it? Yeah. Thank you. So it gets it's weird because I wanted to I texted you who wasn't in who wasn't in the in the in the in the big article? Was it yummy?

Yo could remember little yummy, because I wanted to bring it up on Joe to explain how the math models kind of like the climate change, or God forbid the Coronavirus models had miscalculated the the danger of the quote unquote, super predator. But then it just it was taken for science what science is is right, and then you know, we're still living with the crap from today. Maybe he's trying to Yeah, maybe it's just a redo. You know, they figured all that shit out. We should do it again.

Yeah, and this is not only limited to Chicago, or more, I will talk about black on black crime. This is a problem in any pocket in America that has high, so called quote unquote black populations, as we hear in black on black crime part 1.1. Black on Black crime, you can find it in almost any major city like Chicago, New York or LA but Chattanooga is nowhere near the size. Nor has the population of those cities get violent crimes by African Americans against each other in Chattanooga. It's

just as bad. In part one of his special report, Eric Coveney takes a deep look into black on black crime and its effect on the African American community. He joins us live in the studio to explain Eric Wallace journalist, it's our job to report what's happening in our community. And unfortunately, we find ourselves covering black on black violence almost every other day. Now, before we begin, we you need to know that in this report you're

about we're about to show you. It is very raw and emotional with language that some viewers may find offensive trigger warning. crime scenes like this one play out almost every week in Chattanooga. And the story is usually the same disagreement between two black men or a group of African Americans that leads to violence. Some of the victims live. Others die. No one knows this better than Celeste woods. You see, nine years ago her son's mom was shot to death in this East Chattanooga

neighborhood. She says she'll never forget that horrible night. And the next thing I know I was getting a phone call and say the mind has been shot. And could you calm. And this is the area that I came here. And when that came that he was voc was taped around and he was laying facedown in history. To add insult to injury. Demand died on Martin Luther King Jr. Day. That day most Americans celebrate a man who stood for non violence. Right well before you deconstructed for us. What

station did this what outfit did this? This package w d e f news 12 Chattanooga source for local news. as local quick and quick to the point. incredibly disgusting to me. The way they start off was saying, okay, it seriously, this was a Mind Control thing in what you would call trauma based entertainment as far as I'm concerned, the music track that went from some recognizable song. What song was that was the track I think I recognize it's not like some crazy old track

No. Typical quote unquote gangster music. Exactly. Exactly. It doesn't matter. Yeah, it sounds crazy. But yeah, and then we went into some mama comes in and holy crap that was mind control. That's all I wanted to say. It was that was quite disgusting. Yeah, we had a sad course. I mean, cost record the everybody knows that knows music and evoke emotion course. If you were to say string, it wasn't no sad black mama on TV. It wasn't news, that's for sure. That was that was programming.

But if I said to you, Chattanooga, you wouldn't say to me black on black crime? I mean, so I say pardon my means? Is that the cat Machida on your shoe? Yeah, that's what I'm sorry. So this lets you know that it's widespread. Yeah. Even not as they want to make it like it's this urban problem. No, it's widespread. And that lets you know, wherever a shared mentality, or what you want to call culture, is that we have this saints this systemic problem. So with that said, we can get into 1.2.

But shooting death of her son was the result of an earlier altercation with this man, Alex Smith, whom police later arrested and charged with murder. Current gang task force coordinator, Boyd Patterson prosecuted Smith, that particular case ended with a plea of guilty to manslaughter and a sentencing hearing. Well, that's what happened. He could have faced, it was between six and 10 years. But after the sentencing hearing, he was given six years.

Authorities say much of the violence playing out is gang related. According to a recent study, blacks make up 89% of the gangs in Chattanooga, followed by white that 10 and a half percent, and the number of gang related crimes rose from 127 in 2007 to 520 11. I want to get some terms straight with you. What is the difference between urban and inner city? Is there a difference? Because what in the Chattanooga is that the Chattanooga inner city? Urban means black?

Whenever you hear urban, that's black. Inner City, which is great geographical of this is the inner city right? Now they can be used synonymously I mean, incorrectly, but when you hear urban, that's targeted towards black people. Okay. So that makes sense. It's just a geographical you say it's no, you can say inner city. And that means it's downtown. Right. But, but this is what's happening in Chattanooga. Is that happening in the inner city?

I would guess so. I don't know how you can fly. Because when they say urban, they mean black even though Chattanooga is not urban. is right. Okay, so it's a tricky word. It's like oh, yeah, over there. Over there with a black sorry, is synonymous with ghetto. You really get this word needs to be outlawed because it has too many stupid meanings. I mean, it used to be a music style. It used to be just a music sort. That's what it was urban baby. Well,

we'll slow down curry. No, no, no, God was slow down. We're getting married. Sorry, man. I'm sorry, man. Listen, grasshopper is called Educate music. Yeah, yeah. Okay, so you have this guy gets six years. Yeah, six years now I can look at it one or two ways I can say least one black guy or girl got to be out six years. I mean, other than was dead or I can say wow, is a black life only work six years in jail. Yeah, do you know that this is where this this is how this gets

tricky. But was this on the side of that's not what they said he played with a plea deal on manslaughter. But I want to raise my concern. I mean, raise our awareness our memory to you remember, Botham, John and the female cop shot him. And she got 10 years. Everybody was all up in arms. Yeah. But this guy gets six years for killing another black man not a peep out anybody. And he was oh yeah, we got him six years. I mean, he was bold enough to go on the news and say yeah, we get we

will let a guy off murder instead. was six years. And is that now I had to be cynical. Is that because you want murderers people to be making it back to the hood? while they're still in their prom? They're killing prom? Yeah, well, let's talk. Let's talk about it now. Well, again, a very, very interesting perspective. You said, wow, is a black life only worth six years? If I had heard that, while please. I mean, because I know a little bit about legal sentence,

saying was a plea deal? Yeah, no. I of course, did. I did not have that empathy. I did not think, wow, that did guy is only worth six years, I thought, and maybe the way it worked out the altercation. I don't know what happened. I don't know the gun went off. I don't know. But I totally understand where you're coming from. Of course, that's about the rest about the running. That's about the that's about the running average, about 10 years for black life. That

was that's what, that's what you know. People know, in the streets. I know, I sound very counterfeit. This is important. I know what you say. Now, this is important, because that's what's known. They know, oh, it's just 10 years or if you're lucky, six years recycle, you're out is that what is that where that's going? Exactly. And if I'm running a white supremacist enterprise here, those are the kinds of people I want back on the streets.

Yes, I see the problem. So in this case, the system is actually assists assisting this problem by perhaps even trying to be compassionate. It's a mindfuck as well, and that missing on the other side, say this guy got life in prison, whether it goes to labs. It's like you can have it either way you want it. Yeah, you can't. This is why this is

such a slippery thing to wrestle. Because when you're you know, when you're throwing that ball, what about black on black crime, because, and I tried to work this show that I watch and I have mixed feelings about it called first 48 and Amy, and I watch it often because it gives you a good cross section of criminality, especially black on black crime then results in murder, what the basically the top on the premise of the show is the first 48 hours after homicide on the most critical

hours, right. And so they have a lot of inventory with black and black men being killed. So of course, that's going to be the majority of your cases. And it could go either way, you can have these cases where one guy gets six years for killing a black life or you could have one guy go rob another black guy, when another black guy in the car, and they killed the one

black guy and and other two guys get life without parole. So just because the second guy went with the, you know, this was tagging alone. Yes. But so this, this is where it gets confusing, and I'm just gonna say it I'm sure I'm jumping the gun. But a big part of today's movement is to is to have police reform and to get a lot of people out of jail much quicker or not even go to jail

at all for certain crimes up to incredible levels. Again, that seems like it's compassionate but from what you're telling me it could have a completely adverse effect within the criminal circuit. It's like oh, this is great. We just recycle recycle recycle Thank you very much BLM. Right and if your goal is to have more okay, we are a no black ink and BLM business model piece off of black dead bodies

in the street Yes. You need to total number and then you need the highlight cases that the media runs which by cops Yeah, I want to say this one thing Notorious BIG had a song called you're nobody till somebody kills you. When a black person killed a black person that's it. Nobody killer nobody. In the media's eyes it's only when you're killed by a white person.

Or you kill a white person then you've made okay man. Not Yeah, now you're somebody because yeah, you make it it's very it's a very sick and what problem this is what I find very problematic is people like Kamala Harris, Brock Obama, all these sorrows sister DBAs. Y'all don't understand the nuance that needs to be had when you're saying Who do we lock up who don't we lock up? There is like, Oh, let everybody out. And then what happens? The community gets rid of what kromm And then you

get the heavy hand of the law coming down. And then you get another criminal justice system. I mean, Criminal Justice bill. Yeah. And it's indiscriminate. And now black people are being stopped to frisk again. So it's like, where's the nuance here, but nobody wants to nuance. Everybody wants dead black man in the street. Period. Well, not everybody on that on that level. Clarify. Oh, now I'm talking. When we speak. We don't talk about humans. Of course, people here. Yeah, we talked about

sanctions yesterday and dead black men work for everybody. It works. It's this. It's the South for all wounds. It's a floor wax and a dessert topping. Exactly, because you can say, Look at this. If I want to say about trans men, or trans trans women, who does it black men, you know, it's always like you're gonna see I don't want to

talk and show here too much. But the train roll? Yeah. Um, so in this next clip from the Chattanooga news piece, they talk to somebody actually in the life so we have 2.1 When it comes to black on black crime and Chattanooga, gang task force Community Outreach Coordinator, Fred Houser has seen it all. Howser believes the problems unfolding on the streets, don't start on the streets, but rather at home where offenders come from broken families with little or no guidance.

People often point back to the family well, when I was coming up, it was a primary family, the mother and father, but it was also everybody in the neighborhood, they represent the family that structure you know has has broken down and age does play a role that was confirmed by a man who admits to being gang associated for his protection and the

protection of his family. We agreed to hide his face and alter his voice is a myth that you know, the older you get in the beat in the game, you know, saying the more power respect you get, and I and about that normal you know, saying it's about the legal who out here putting in the most work, you know, saying who will play him, you know, saying Nick, who got to Maine forced to be 1617 years old, and between 30 and 40 year old girl Wow.

So that goes to show you about the decentralization now spots? Not previously. That's all about a name. It's not about you know, it's no ranks, you know, you're gonna make it the general or, or you know, kappo or Lieutenant right, you make it up the ranks and is no more that it's about you're basically the Wild West, it's the Wild West, you're not the fastest gun, you're in the fastest gun.

So, looking at this, we have to go back to the super predator meme, because that's still alive and well slash the thug life or the thug. Slash, you know, so this comes from my movie 1992 called juice. My featured Tupac patch I remember this one. Yeah, sure. And this scene right here let you enter the analysis movie in his dramatize but wasn't

wasn't Kamala Harris in that movie. Sorry. I thought she was hanging out with with Tupac back then I'm sorry especially with the lady in the record store with a goalkeeper Oh, yeah, so in this scene, it lets you into outside the mind of what they will say a quote unquote super predator thinks like

it's over. Everything starts from now. We all go down unless we stay together and no one man above the crew you know that shit crazy when you said that last time, I was kind of tripping right now you fight crazy, but you know what else give a fuck fuck about you. Don't give a fuck about steel. And I'm gonna fuck about Raheem either. I'm gonna fuck about myself. Again, shit. I never gonna be shit. And you less of a man than me so soon as I decided you ain't gonna be shit. So be

yes, it's a rom com. Obviously. So. So imagine coming across a person with that mentality that has all the self hate in the world. Yeah. Nobody speaking positivity into him because that's the thing that was the character of Bishop. His father was a war vet. You know, he's kind of out of it. And he was being bullied by Rotom as his crew of rival gang. And he was tired of it. He was tired of being pushed around. I'm not saying I'm Just trying to

humanize people. And it gets to the point where you have people just outwardly suicidal. It's like, I'll let society do the job for me of killing me. But I'll take now everybody along the way I can. And that's kind of like the mentality of these people that you come across. The problem with that is, there are so far and few between, as we pointed out with the flaw, the flaw in the super predator numbers, yeah, just because people will say they subscribe to this mindset don't mean they

actually live it. And you have a lot of kids, including myself when I was young, that would dress the part that would use the vernacular to play the part. Because that's what the women were attracted to. Were the girls. You know, they want the tough guy. I mean, I mean, and this is, this is America, apple pie. I mean, Fonzie got all the chicks. Because he had a leather jacket and the motorcycle. I mean, let's just keep it 100 here. So this is nothing new. But it's this is what's feeding

this scenario with black on black crime. So I don't know. I want to know what you took away from that scene or what? What sparked what sparked your mind? Well, it's, I think exactly what you said. It sounds like, well, there's I've met some crazy people in my life. Maybe they weren't in a gang. But they said crazy shit like this too. And yeah, it's frightening. But if you're gonna think, Well, look, this is trauma based entertainment. All the elements

are in there. It's easy to think Holy crap. That's what all the urban areas are like, Kelly, you know, it's like I know that sounds pretty desperate. And it's very dangerous because when people watch this and then they see me dressing looking like the characters they just associate and like I said, all this is part of a bigger plan and we're gonna get there. But I found a throwback clip from show 41 And this is to pot and he talks about Donald Trump and greed and America I'm

sorry I'm sorry. I kind of stop you for a second Yeah, sure. Well known is the talk that your parents had with you. Yes. Did the talk not at any point say son stop dressing like a gangbanger when you go out because you can get in trouble just for the way you look. But it's not the point about dress like a gangbanger is the point of dressing about dress about point about dressing about what's hip. I wasn't wearing bandanas and tailors in those things.

Okay, I got you. Oh, but it doesn't take much. It doesn't take much because it's popular. Look at the hood. Look at the hoodie. Yeah, yeah, he's been around since since forever, but it's like okay, we're gonna wait. And I have to say and then let's I'll shut up. The hoodie was an exclusive white guy thing it got taken away from us was Trayvon. It was the Unabomber. trademark. It was a white horrible guy. trademark. Oh, the other creepy guy with the sunglasses like, that's the

unit. Never think about that. That was the unit. It was our hoodie, man. Thanks. Because that's gonna show you how powerful images are. Because when you said that, the composite sketch that's my visual hoodie popped right into my head. But now that we say hoodie, we think Trayvon Martin those things. Yeah, I mean, we could go down the list. I mean, we like people who have taken a whole bunch of wheat, wheat colored construction boots. It's just that was whiter,

but that's okay. I feel good. You know, we've taken so much from the black brothers here. You can have the hoodie. With the hoodie that was like this, the hoodies been around since this era. 1992. The champion hoodie. This was very common. So it was amazing how they started to weaponize it recently with the with the Trayvon Martin case, like it was the hoodie, the hoodie. It's like, no, but we had a clip that we played before. Like, I won't let my kids wear hoodies or

sneakers. It's like that's like the teenage boys go to is those things. Yeah. And when my dad was a kid, it was the boots, the engineer boots, because that was with Marlon Brando hat and that was cool. But then you were in a biker gang. So I guess it's the same thing. He boots. Yeah, same thing. Okay. Right. Gotcha. So So Now getting back to Tupac Trump in greed. This world is such an I say this world. I mean, I don't mean an ideal sense. I mean, in every day, every little thing you do

is such give me give me give me everybody backlog. You know, everybody's like you taught that from school, everywhere big bins, you want to be successful. You want to be like Trump, give me give me give me push, push, push, push, step steps that crush, crush crush. That's how it all is. And it's like, nobody ever stopped. Just, you know, I feel like, instead of us just being like, slavery is bad slavery is that bad. YT bad whitey. I mean, I, let's stop that. And everybody is smart

enough to know that. I mean, we've been slighted. And we want ours. And I don't mean by like ours, 40 acres and mu because we passed that. But we need help. I mean, for us to be on our own two feet, us meaning us or us men and black people, whatever you want to take the fall. For us to be on our own two feet, we do need help. Because we have been here we have been a good friend. If you want to make it a relationship type thing. We have

been there. And now we deserve our pay back. It's like you got a friend that you don't never look out for. You know, you dressed up in jewels. Now America's got Jews, and they got they paid and everything and they lend money to everybody except us. It wasn't too too far too long before he was a shot wasn't. This was 1992. So that was, what four years, four years. All right. So this is this is pre This is pre jail, right? To pot. And it was definitely a change that happened there. So maybe

one day we'll talk about that. But he makes a great point. That was that was RemoteFX 41. If anyone wants to go back and listen to more, that was a thing. That Thug Life episode. That's right. So you have young black men grow up in America, which is take what you want. If somebody strikes on you, you strike back harder. If they dropped two buildings in Manhattan, you go kill a million people, you know, what's that? Like? This is the rider mentality. And it's like, when they embrace it is wrong.

Yes, I this is one of my biggest, biggest gripes, of course. Because that's all we know, in America is just take. And you know, I mean, when I'm when I'm saying corporate America, America, the corporation is just tape, you know, and that's why I like I think Trump gets respected at least, because he's clear, you want us to come near what you're gonna give us?

Right? How about that? Oh, you know, what? You're saying you want you want your streets cleaned up, you know, you want us to bank bank, we are set, you know what you're gonna give us a certain respect that comes with that. But yeah, so when you grow this up, and then these kids are raised by television, you have no father to give you any context and nuance or those kinds of things. Like you said, the talk that you you have

mentioned before, there's a bunch of tasks that go on. This is talks about how to deal with white people is taught today how to deal with your Onchain. You know, if you're in certain areas, don't go to certain areas that that people that look like you. I mean, this talk thing is not only this talk thing is not only about how to deal with white people, it's about how to deal with threats to your life. That's what the talk is about. Well, you said something interesting, because I thought

the talk was pretty much about law enforcement. At least, that's what I've been told about the talk. You just said something different. And it makes total sense, by the way. But the first thing you said the talk is about how to deal with white people. That's interesting. Well, that's part that's one of the biggest one not even white people, it's the cops. Okay, all right, no white people in

general. But what I'm saying, what I'm saying is anything that can threaten your existence, whether it's taking your life, or your reputation, or, or you know, impeding you from having a good life, that's all encompassing of the talk that a father has with his sons. And not let me be clear, I'm not excluding the girls, but girls and women, and everybody else has advocates for their cause. This is why this took me show took me two weeks, because I'm being an advocate for young men

that look like me. And I understand, I'm lucky to be here. And reason why I'm saying I'm lucky, I participated in some of the same, some of the same activities, you know, our car ride and you know, when you go out, you ride, you're gonna say, you know, bad license, bad registration, you don't have money, you know, the state is always messing with you some kind of way that you know, right or wrong, I mean, but the state needs there's I mean, but you know, when you're young you

don't think about that kind of thing. And I'm just to be honest with you, I wanted to bad searchers, away from being you know, say of being a victim of the criminal justice system. So when I speak about young black man, I'm speaking from the heart and black men in general, but especially with young young black men, I'll speak it for the heart because everybody else has the goal to use them for their own game, of course. So no, thank you. That's personal, but it's no

that's it's very much at home with me. It's very much appreciated. And as you're saying, and that I was thinking that, you know, of course, I think every young man gets into some stupid shit and we do some stupid shit. But I've never done anything that I never got caught. But I also didn't, I'm sure. But I'm sure of it. I'm sure that I didn't have the same fear that you had for sure. I didn't have the same fear. What's the odds? It's like, let's take Corona, for instance.

The more you test, the more positive you find, right? Yep. So it's the same thing when you start talking about arresting pulling over people's more bullshit. You're gonna have more you are? Yeah, yeah. The more I have the roaches you're gonna find you have it's not like you you blatantly know. Oh, I forgot to you know, have this roach in my bookbag or, you know, didn't have time to stop by my locker to drop this

off. That I mean just and really now you knew way drugs you knew you knew if the gateway drug the more the more you test, the more positives you get that you nailed it. That's exactly right, the more you test, and if you're testing a certain group more, you're going to find the shit with them. Absolutely. Now because that's a topic we share. And I guarantee you I've smoke more weed than you have. You probably have well I'm just saying that I'm probably better of course.

Now it's that is it now that's a you know, just the inside baseball ultimate the all good we're all good races. We are good. We will often refer to as white boy, we really so yeah, don't get me that Urbis can come in I want to white boy, we do come visit me Yeah, MO. And we'll show you what that's about. So to get into the mindset of what we will call a thug, or a super predator, at one time, Malcolm X, will fall into this category before he was enlightened, you know, and

broadened. So the knowledge of self and you know, the plight against these people. So I have some excerpts from his autobiography written by Alex Haley. And it's written by Joe Morton, and let's just get into 1.1. West any Archie vs. Detroit read. It was a classic hustler code impasse. The money wasn't the problem. I still had about $200 of it. had money been the issue, Sammy could have made up the difference. If it wasn't in his

pocket. His women could quickly have raised it. Within the an Archie himself for that matter would have loaned me $300 About asked him as many 1000s of dollars of miners he'd gotten 10% off once in fact, when he'd heard I was broke. He had looked me up and handed me some money and grunted, stick this in the pocket. The issue was the position which his action had put us both into for hustling on our sidewalk, jungle world face

and Ana were important. No hustler could have known that he'd been hyped meaning outsmarted Omega foo love and worse. The Hustler could never afford to have a demonstrated that he could be bluffed that he could be frightened by a threat that he lacked nerve. West Indian Archie knew that some young hustlers row was in stature in our world when they somehow hoodwinked older hustlers than put it on the wire

for everyone to hear. He believed I was trying that, in turn, I knew he would be protecting his stature by broadcasting all of the why his threat to me because of this code. In my time in Harlem, I'd personally known a dozen hustlers who threatened left town disgraced. Once the wire had it, any retreat by either abyss was unthinkable, the wine would be awaiting the report of the showdown.

So this is yo Malcolm X. He's claimed that he hit a number and the guy that ran the numbers of Austin numbers is a huge component of black culture. And that time not as much now because you have the little illegal lottery. But he claimed that he had a number Archie say he didn't so they now they're at an impasse right. And to save face. Archie has to call Malcolm out who was not at Detroit read it at the time. And this thing he referred to multiple times is the wire Yeah, the wire the

wire. The wire is what social media is now or what we say the streets but they say the streets is talking. Used to hear this all heard it through a grapevine Bird on the wire, what they're talking. This is this was like the social media of that time. And once it got on the wire that you had been played you have to

save face. And that's what it's all about now I still decided that it's not most of them are not about money it's about this image that you create it won't be in Detroit read other than being Weston Archie, which are caricatures or lack of I'll lose. I don't have a lack of better word but just caricatures of themselves or alter egos. That's the word I'm looking for these alter ego that you build up for yourself on the streets.

That's why every rapper has an alter ego, if you notice, and sometimes multiple ones, because he's like, You have Curtis Jackson, do you have 50 cents? 50 cents can't get played, you know, with the Archie can't get played Detroit Red can't get played. So now the wire is waiting scene. Did he get flav? Oh, right. Right. Exactly. It's the wire.

So I completely understand the wires that time when had been barber shops and guy on the corner to the next guy, telephones telephone and now that come back and hip hop as like a real wire that ran through the songs or is it always kind of maintain that street level? And it may it may be as you said social media today? Does it still exist in the old form of the wire? No. Well, I mean, it's all about technology and how it can be

utilized. So it's hard to telephone. Okay, and then we have music come about you had it go on wax and you're saying they always say the term on wax off wax on wax be me was just night talking jump when it would jump off a wax because you saw this with a Tupac and Biggie thing. Once it gets to a point one guy sleeping with the other guy's wife, or claiming that sweet sleep with other guys wife. Something has to happen. Say you're at a point now of it's

not really a racial thing. Someone's got to happen in every group with that shit. Yeah. And I'm glad you asked me because I'm open on home. Boom. It's the same thing with Roger Stone. General Flynn. We don't fall we don't rat us. There sir. Certain things that the street respect about just code Donald Trump, and he's saying his cohort. It's like, and Cohen was looking at like a rat. It's like, Bro Yeah, that was a bad look. It was a very, it was a

very bad look. Because I mean, because I'm looking at through the streets eyes. And it's like, no, you can't read. I mean, you did dirt with this dude. I mean, you his lawyer, for God's sake. And you out here you're saying you out here, right? I mean, what, you know, General Flynn, that would be considered soldiers. Right? But the irony in that you put they were could be considered soldiers because they didn't tell they didn't take the easy way out. You know, they wrote um, so this face

saving face thing. I mean, it's big in all cultures, especially masculine driven culture, right. So I just wanna I just want to say that that's cool. I enjoy hearing that. Thank you. Alright, so now you have Weston Archie in Detroit read about and how a face off and we'll hear about it and one point to the next thing I knew Weston and Archie was standing before me cursing me loud. His gun on me was really making his public point floor show him for the people. He called me foul names

threatened. Everyone bought tenders customers sat or stood as dough carved drinks in midair. The jukebox in the rear was going. I had never seen West Indian Archie hand before. Not a whiskey. Ha. I could tell it was something else. I knew the hustlers characteristic of keying up on dope to do a job. I was thinking I'm gonna kill Archie. I'm just gonna wait

until he turns around to get the drop on them. I could feel my own 32 resting against my ribs where it was tucked under my belt beneath my coat was Tinian Archie Seaman to read my mind. Quit Kherson and his words jarred me. You're thinking you're gonna kill me first read. But I'm gonna give you something to think about. I'm 60 I'm an old man. I begin to Sing sing. My life is over. You're a young man. Kill me. You're lost

anyway. All you can do is go to prison. I've since stopped that Western Ian Archie may have been trying to scare me into run it to see both his face and his life. It may be that's why he was so high. No one knew that I hadn't killed anyone. But no one who knew me including myself would doubt that I'd kill. Wow, it's a great story. This goes to show you if this would have went left. Yeah, it could have not have one of our greatest leaders in history.

Make it to the point where he was able to realize you know was saying who he really was you know and what that he brought so this is why I'm passionate about a young man I think there's a lot of redeemable young men out there it just takes guidance and this is why the father No father in the home and you know parent fathers family back together a parent privilege is so important now we have to get to the so called white people that love to bring up black on black call

hey now it's Adams portion of the show. Okay. Well, now I'm messing with he's amazing how Yeah, no, say it's amazing how black people are demonized when they have standoffs like Detroit Red and West any art you have, but not so much of their gunslingers. Oh, okay. Shall we roll this? Yes, please. The tense prolonged drama of the Western gunfight. It is a scene played over and over, not only in books and on the screen, but also in our imagination.

Well, the classic Western gunfight that's in our mind, is of two men facing off in the street with a camera angle underneath one person's leg looking at the other one, the good guy, he lets the bad guy draw first. And then of course, the good guy ends up drawing and shooting the bad guy between the eyes End of story. When we think of Western gunfighters, we think of the

classic Western gunfight problem is it's simply never happened. I don't know of a single time in Western history, where two guys were actually dumb enough to get out in the middle of the street and challenge each other to a draw. He get killed like that. Yeah, so true, though. Yeah, of course it then. That is interesting. Black, Black cowboy guy. black guys in cowboy movies isn't really strange, you know, walking around with guns because I got the hats on to the Spurs. And it's all good.

Right? Bass bass. Reeves won the baddest man every wall you're saying. Right? Exactly. But it's, as you can see here, all about narrative, even though it didn't go down that way. They can rewrite history. And that's what happened here. And we're gonna look start looking, we got to look at history. I'm not a big history person. Even though I play a lot of clips from history. Yeah, I'm about what narrative survived from history. That's what piques my interest.

But why are we talking about what we're talking about now, and not the other 10 Interesting things that get buried who's pushing this narrative? So to explain the Western culture, the wild, wild west, they had the, you know, civilize it like I'm calling you out. Meet me out Todd at high noon. And that's not even how it went down. But the fact that that's programmed into my mind, it's like, I look at black people to do the same thing. A Detroit Red meet me outside, right? Just look at him

as two thugs. But now this is this is real white supremacy something really honorable about a gunfight the way you imagine it in the movies where they're standing out again, and you know, face to face and exactly said that shot from through one guy's legs, see the other guy that always has like this dueling kind of honest man thing. You call me yellow. These terms of mind and not a racist term, by the way, ya

know? What, what if you have two black men call each other out in the streets that have honest grievances, and they just shoot it out? is seen as Oh, that's barbaric. You know, these are this is this narrative that I'm talking about. And the thing is glyphs Lakers don't even exist, they're not even a real thing. That's just the movies. Power the mountain a narrative. All right, and we're gonna say, before I continue all I want to go back to one point and on the

war watch front that we do. So what you have here, the super the duck is the product of the gender of the call the gender war, and now his result itself in the generational war. Yeah, because the children have been charged up against men, older men, and that's why you're seeing it play out in the streets like mess and I wanted to make that point before we got away too far with West Indian Archie in Detroit red clip.

There's always gonna be eminent t between older men and younger men, but it's only up heighten by the mother, you know, shaping the young boy's mind against the older male, ie the father, right? Yeah, that flows Oh, of course that flows over. So me is like now I'm 56 I'm definitely a guy to be hated. Naturally, I mean, as in this is part of nature. I mean, the younger models and the younger lions, you know, they're gonna

look to test the older ones. But that's what separates for animals is that when we work with the previous generations, and all other genders that you know, make a better civilization and better society. So I just want I just wanted to go back to that because I just want to lay that out because all the we talked about is going to be gender war, generational war, or race war, right. So Alright, so let's get into wild west part two. But there is certainly a grain of truth behind the gunslinger

legend. And finding it takes us to the western frontier in the second half of the 19th century. It was a lawless time when the harsh and grimy reality of life came to favor those who were fearless with a gun. The willingness to step to the edge is what determined whether or not a man had what it took. If you think of the quote from the novel, The Shootist, JB books, the protagonist says, most men will hesitate before they pull the trigger, they'll blink an eye or take a breath. I won't.

In the Old West, Shootist was a common term for the men who made the reputations with guns. The word gunfighter appeared as early as 1870, but did not come into wide use until later. The word gun slinger is probably a creation of the 20th century. Researchers at Merriam Webster's have traced it no further than the famous author Zane Grey, who used it in his novel Nevada,

written in 1928. The Gunslinger by any name was the product of a society in which guns were essential tools from the very beginning. Yeah, no doubt that is our culture. That is our that is our American culture for sure. So if you take young men, and you show them these images, yeah, you have no no fork, counterbalance force there to explain to them what they're saying. And to splaining to them about being positive, or not even positive but righteous in

your actions. I mean, because even when Clint Eastwood came, he's like, okay, I get it. You know? Those guys are bad. Even though Clint is kind of bad. You know? They will hire him to clean up the town. Yeah, we don't get any of that counterbalance there. Now, I want to go back to controlling language. gunslinger is a creation of the 20th century. Yes. I've never heard the term shoot. It's before now. I had not heard that either. Shoot us? No, that was new to me, too.

We need to start referring to you know, black on black. Oh, did you shoot is this the shoot is culture, you know? Something like that. I mean, it's amazing the narrative of how it could just be explained away. How certain cultures gain their way in American it's like, oh, no, those rough times. It was decided by the gun and guns were critical tools. And I'm not justifying any of them. I'm just saying this shoot is The Shootist. That was the John Wayne movie. Really? Yeah, the

shoot is not the excuse me, I'm not the film buff. It's not like the Siskel and Ebert over here just to date myself. Wikipedia the shooters there's a 7690 76 American western film directed by Don Segal. It is notably known as John Wayne's final film roll. And he is John Wayne, Lauren Bacall. He's The

Shootist. So, that is interesting. I'm just throwing it out there because that always gives us context when we find the root the roots of these words, and it's the shared mentality of a cow like Billy the Kid and somebody, a young kid now. You know, I have my gun. My gun is the only thing that allows me not to become a victim. And you know, is me and my gun. Right? That's the mentality. So how can

we look down on the premise of how they got their kit? and also considering all the things that shape their environment that we talked to talk about in the last 47 episodes. Yes, hopefully, you know, we explained that a little bit, but it doesn't just start when the wild wild west either. And neighborhood turf was absolutely everything the gang members and the I think probably a good gas for the average age of a gang member was probably about 16 or 17, probably down to as low as 12.

I mean, they did every possible thing that you could do. At the time, the corruption was unbelievable when you when you really get into the history of the people must be made to understand that all these things are best kept within what I like to call the Tammany family, which is why I'm talking about an alliance between our two great organizations. Talking about muscle, muscle damage our spirit, we want classes, get them to the police. Oh, no,

Jesus, no. The appearance of the law must be upheld. Especially while it's being broken. There was a time when the line between criminal and hero and decent human being and not a decent human being were very muddy and murky. Yeah, she Yeah. Yeah. This is from a movie right. Oh, Liam Neeson? Oh, Liam. Yeah, this is from gang of America. Gang gangs in New York. Yeah. But do you listen to how they were talking about it? i Oh, yeah. You know, the lines were murky then. And

oh, they did? I mean, even on Leonardo DiCaprio, HE CHUCKLES when he talks about his? Oh, yeah, they did everything. So it's this mentality of like every other culture. And you hear this a lot. When you talk about black on black crime, the retort is, well, the Kennedys got rich off a liquor. The Bush's got rich off of cocaine, I mean, and steel and oil and those kinds of things. So these people are aware of American history, not the ones don't know, boots on the ground. But

it's a couple of things. I want to point out in that clip. He says that, when I think they're talking to Boss Tweed, and he says, Why don't you get the rollers to roll this, I think is another word for cops at the time, because I want you to get them to do is I No, no, no, no, no. We need muscle. That's the third wave. That's the third wave. Third Wave, right. Yeah, I want to re explain this. So the third wave is okay, we have a Black Lives Matter ink or

black black ink protest. The first wave are, you know, the Black Lives Matter? It's the suburban kids who are who, meanwhile, are under informed and over socialized? Well, I think that I think the first wave of activists are the charts color. Oh, well, well trained Marxist. By their by their turn? Yes. We're super super trained or super versed in Marxism. Yeah, well, they're on the group that the the first wave. And then you have the second wave, or the agent

provocateurs, the ones that break the glass. Now, we've seen that they could come on either side or the right or the left, because we've seen some, some stories there. But then the third wave are the actual people who who criminal element. Yeah, well, it's, let me play it back, just to make sure that I got it right.

Because we had this conversation around one I know. And the third wave is literally the the the people who have in the beginning of the show, were saying, well, it like Tupac said, Take Take, that's what Trump does. All these guys do it when they get the opportunity. The windows were broken. We didn't break the windows, but now it's open people go what this is we're going to take this is what everybody does, that is the American way that that I think is your point about the third wave.

That's my whole point is kind of like when they have you know, we go to other nations, like these non governmental organizations. That will be the third way is like, you know, the government came in and destabilize and you know, Rubble is the word you like to use. But now we're going to clean up and now if we have to, now if we take you know, make a profit off of it, it is what it is, is here for the taking that kind of thing. So it's the same it's the same mentality what is just amazing.

I want to point this final point out of Liam Neeson This is the same guy that says that the thought of black man hair right one of his friends or she told him right, he walked the streets for weeks, looking for a black man to beat up and attack. But then he laughs All criminality when it's done by other people.

It's just amazing. The hypocrisy. I'm saying Yeah. When you say black on black crime, or remember that America is rooted rooted in criminal criminal activity and in criminal mindset, you know, from the very beginning because he was strong, only the strong survive. I mean, like I'm not taking away anything. I'm just saying that's the reality. Let me throw somewhere nice. Let me let me throw something at you. As a so called white man in America, of course,

I recognize the criminal activity. And as I said earlier, and she didn't have the pleasure, that was a lot of the political system and elements in politics are incredibly criminal. It's interesting, I know that if I really had wanted to, or if I was younger, if I wanted to, I know that I could achieve that level of criminality. And I would understand that, and I'm just shooting from the hip here, so

So I don't know if there's gonna go anywhere. It's like, I would be familiar, like, okay, but you know, these are bunch of douche bags. And they're not going to shoot me. The worst I can get from them is they're going to steal from me indirectly. And they might send me or my kids off to war, then when you see, you know, like the like, the music videos, or Tupac juice, the juice movie, like, I can never be that. And I And it's true, I can never be that because I can never be that, you

see. And that is by itself really scary, because I don't know what that person is maybe capable of. Whereas I can identify with that person over there. And that seems much less. And it's and by the way, it's truly racist thinking. But that's what it was. He's really whining. This is systemic. This is systemic racism. I mean, we didn't rewrite history. No, you know what it is? It's just ignorance. It's ignorance. I look at the world so differently. After 47 episodes,

my life has changed. And I've been doing the work, I'm talking about the people. I'm talking about the people that says that they built the system, where you could think that way to think it's fantastic. Did so smart. It is. I mean, genie has a Yeah, I'm not taking anything away from the architecture of it. I'm just telling you what the system is. And it's, we're designing it to say two behaviors, with be seen totally different by who's doing that behavior. And this is probably saying that now,

it's probably one of the most important episodes we've done. I know I said it before. But when you come to the realization that the system really has been set up for you to believe these things, and you know, obviously, I know a lot of this is reinforced through entertainment and media. But most people can never step back and see that vast difference. There may be people right now listening, going, and I'm quite get it. I'm telling you, I'm telling you that you have to, like holy

shit. It's absolutely true. But and this is the good point the other. The for me, the good thing is, when you think about it, when you've had to think about it, your your thinking is, is changed forever. That's good news. Yeah. Because you see from and, and likewise, if you come up on the other side of that coin, you say, how can they not? How can

they not see its course, of course. But when you achieve a certain level in America, and you're not faced with it day by day, then you understand or some people don't understand. They just say, Oh, I brought pull myself by my own bootstraps, you know, I put myself in this position to succeed. No, you were very lucky. Because you didn't get the full brunt of what the system does. That's the only like I said, the only thing that protected me was my parents my

parental privilege. That's it, because they made me who realized who I was what was out there, how to navigate the system. And I had a lot of praying, praying people for me, I'm gonna be honest with you, because like I said, one, one bad turn. And easily you get caught up in that system. And people think, Oh, well, you're not getting 20 years for, you know, no smoking a joint. But it's a slippery slope. Once you get in that system. Yeah. You never can get out because it's

accumulation. Now we've built this one thing, next thing and a lot of guys in jail rather just finished their sentence in jail because they understand the system. It's like, I'm not going in your probation or your pro, right, just under monitoring report, another six years, and the more you test. I'll just sit it out here. That's better. That's interesting. Yeah, it is a real occurrence. But it's to get back to the gang. Good news. Oh, go ahead.

No, I was gonna say, just going back to the criminal justice reform. A lot of that is early parole, early parole, early parole, which, if I hear you correctly, in some percentage of cases, maybe majority is actually the bad because that's where you get the more testing more cases and it's, there's so much risk without it. I don't know. It just seems like that's where your recidivism comes from. Well, yeah, cuz the old criminal justice system me like you do 10

Year 10 days in jail, pay your fine and you're done. But now it's like, no, we're gonna give you two years probation. Okay, so you're gonna give a 16 year old, two years of call it what it is monitoring OTG guy you're monitoring and say, Okay, if a slip up, then we're going to hit them without stiffer penalty. Yeah, yeah, I would rather go to jail for 10 days and just be done with it. You know, if the law didn't affect my record, I mean, my long term record, I would just rather get it over

with but this is the system. You know, it's there's no win in this system. Another thing you don't think about now, a good friend of mine did actually go to jail, and white collar crime. And he went away for I think, 18 months. And so I got a real I'd never used what is it called the pay message? JJ pay and J message which is your the jail? I'll collect calls. Well, like call? Oh, yeah. But you have to wait. You gotta send credits to him. And even to reply to a

message. He didn't have any email. To reply to a message. I had to give him credits, like $1 an email, a message, he could send something back to me. And he would write to me and of course, that would always arrive open and all that crap, but forget that. His parole period. And the shackles that he has, metaphorically speaking, are insane. And and this, it's, it's been hard for him to get his life back together because he was more on higher end. Because he was doing business stuff. No

one wants to do business with him. Because he's got a record he got check the box. You got to check it. Check the box. That's right. You can't raise money. He can't raise money through the traditional means because of the box. Yeah. So let me let me have one quick aside before we continue with this clip, about the box. I've known several people to not check the box, show up to work, be great employees, some of the best employees. I mean, when I was working, you know, and

warehouses and things of that nature during college. And then they come to find out they run their background check on him and then they walk them out. But I'm like, oh, yeah, when it made it in the door if he does check the box. Yeah. Now did you eat proven himself to be reliable? Who probably more reliable than, you know, people that didn't have that hanging over their head? And it's like, oh, no, you're a felon. You got to get him out of here. But you worked with this guy for two months. I

mean, he's a great guy. Now get him out of here. So this is the system. This is the system. Yeah. Um, so let's just get back into the gangs in New York, part two boss, tweed, William Marcy tweed, was himself a virus, Stockman grew up in the side tenement, came up through the ranks and was in one of the leading lights, if not the leading lights of Tammany Hall, he pulled the strings, they control the gangs, to the degree that the gangs were an unofficial arm of enforcement.

The gangs were not officially on the city payroll, but certainly some of the gangs function is that they effectively were on the city payroll, and they worked for whoever happened to be wielding the most power. That's how gangs operate. You know, besides protecting themselves in their turf, they are available for hire to whoever holds the club and and since tweed, did he effectively hold control the games? Once again, notice, Boss Tweed this alter ego. Yeah, you know,

he didn't go by his regular name. It was bald, I mean that his name had to ring bells in the streets. And so you go by this moniker and your moniker really gets bigger than you know, saying your personality gets bigger, or the persona gets bigger than who you really are. So I'm just I'm just wrapping it up, like when you start when you start want to start pointing the finger at black on black crime, hey, everybody in American had

criminal elements in their so called race. So I mean, so this chair with that, and um, I asked this question, I don't have an answer to it. But it's black people just going through this because we're delayed and we're going through our wild west phase now. I'm asking I mean, it's it's a legitimate question, right. I mean, because at some point you had, you know, the McCoys and the Hatfields, you know, I mean, these things progressed, that they, you know, America became more civilized.

So I'm just wondering, is it a date that they delayed effect We're so called black people. I don't know. Okay. Well, let's, let's address it for a second because earlier, yes, well, when we when we played the the Gangs of New York, I mean, as far as I know, from the time period, there were no black people to be in the gang because they had other

jobs, quote, jobs. So that's why they weren't there. So it's that's an interesting question, if that is a process of maturation as as a human group, you know, as a few because obviously, you know, you're a, you're a group of people, you share a lot with everybody else, but shit, yeah, you got a big delay on a lot of stuff. It's very possible. I mean, that's something you need to ask. You know, like Brett Weinstein or something, you know, some social social biologist guy, that's a

grit. Ooh, I almost said it, but it's a pretty good damn good question. I don't I don't know. And who knows, we might be on our way to our own harvests or yields like Columbia's I'm out in China. And I find that the grandfather of Franklin Delano Roosevelt, his name was Warren Delano was the opium king of China. The fortune that Franklin Delano Roosevelt lived off of custom made suits, nice houses, sailboats, vacations,

summer homes. He didn't make that money he inherited from grandpa Warren Delano, the opium king of China, Cabot house at Harvard, opium Skull and Bones at Yale opium, the Law Library at Columbia opium money. If you go on the Princeton website, at least they're honest, they will admit that their first biggest benefactor, John Green, was an opium dealer with Warren Delano. So the book is full of surprises. I'll let you judge,

it didn't change my view about America so much. What it did is changed my view about American historians. I said my first all dope money to tell you when I first thought when I heard that. So back to the maturation process. So let's just say you've got 50 years at least delay in in the modern gangster society, at least. So now you've got a new type of opium. It's fentanyl. And maybe this is your time, this is your time to build up big gear, big fentanyl empires. And the

Chinese are feeding. problem, okay. Guy, there's only one problem. There's no bottom for us to sell to. We were the bottom for all those other groups, right? There's nobody behind us for us to sell to. So we sell to ourselves. So we take money out of one pocket and put it into the other pocket. On the same pair of pants. Yeah, that's always happening, because I always allude back to this pivotal scene and the godfather. And excuse me for saying this,

but you say keep it down there with the niggers? What do you say? The same person who made the gangs in New York, Martin Scorsese. So I'm just saying like that till they were at the bottom. And and as I prove later in the show, black man is the odd the bottom of the bottom. It hurts me when you say, that really hurts when you say that. But I understand what you're saying in a generalization. Absolutely. So what I'm saying is this, I'm not saying it as a it's a

deficit. I'm just saying that this is the you know, prognosis. It's like this is, you know, you're fighting for your life or you know, whatever ailment. Now, can we win? Can we beat it? Of course, we could be anything, but it's like you have to have an accurate diagnosis of the problem before you can even start to treat it. And it is so accurate. When you look at what is happening today. I asked Joe Rogan, I said name one black leader of one male

leader in black lives matter. Is there any is there any black man, you know, who is leading the charge in any type of movement at this moment? And he said, No, it's I don't even know who Black Lives Matters. Leaders are saying, you know, colors in the Okay. He kind of knew that. But yeah, he had to admit, I said, that's the problem. That's the problem. That that's the real victim here. And MC solution is this conversation we're having here,

Adam. First, the white man in the black men have to be able to sit down at the same table. The white man has to feel free to speak his mind without hurting the feelings of that negro. And the so called Negro has to feel free to speak in the mind without hurting the feelings of the white man. Then they can bring the issue that are under the rug out on top of the table and take an intelligent approach to get the problem solved. That's the only way they'll ever do it.

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me a minute to it. Yeah, we're there. This show brought about legit and profound shift in my thinking and I'm very gracious for the tools to see things through a different lens Exactly. What said about class sparked thoughts about how the native Maori in New Zealand are seen back home and how the crown system fucked them royal royal Yeah, isn't that interesting? How you can apply this to almost every country the same scenario system is same system that's right. That's absolutely right.

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interesting to assemble for such a discussion. I'm concerned that too many November voters will be voting based on incorrect stats and incorrect history. You guys have the decency, power and talent to ease racial tensions and educate America without pushing any particular political goals or preferred politicians. If this doesn't sound like a lame idea finer details of the

proposal are my email sent on August 31. Kr Thank you very much and here's my thoughts on it and mochan let us know what he thinks this so first of all, I love that the Malcolm the Malcolm X quote is gonna take one white man and one black man to sit down across the table. He doesn't say a group of white men

black No. This is it. This is the core This is it. This is the core of this the mission if there was any mission, and I love you know Dr. King with you know, I've seen the mountaintop then judge not a man by the color of skin but by the by advice character. But this is where this is where we got to do the stuff. So this Hotep Jesus is another example of this. It's no different and different. But what's interesting here is what we don't talk about, necessarily the issues of the day. But how

we got here. And that's what's cool about it. That's the whole point. Yeah. How do we how do we get no peeling back the layer, leaf by leaf layer by layer to get how we got here. And as you said before, it's a one on one thing, it's not one size fit all you have to get to know the person how can you judge them by the content of the character if you don't know their character, exactly, or their background or where they're coming from just where they're coming from? Thanks, KR, another social

executive. Prusa donation, of course, these are from over two weeks, and it's so appreciated that you've carried us over so it's a little bit long, we've broken it up into two segments. And we are at Joseph de Janiero, who got $75 as well, Mo and Adam was catching up on old Episodes Episode Nine. One drop was the title that reminded me of a colorism experience I saw while working in New York to him and I worked with her black and had a

darker skin tone. I remember one of them would always make fun of Drake, and now he and his music were light skin. Also when either of them would excessively complain or whine the other would tell him to stop acting like skin. I appreciate all you guys have taught me so far found the show at episode 37 Can't wait for what's in store for the rest of the back catalogue. I thank you guys for keeping my amygdala small and all the intentional misinformation from the M five M I don't know if

this is possible. I'd like to start the petition to get mo on an agenda of Rogan would love to see this conversation Mo and Joe would have let me tell you my mission is to get Moe to that level and far beyond so I'm not targeting any any any way I think if we do our work and we expose what we're doing and producers do their work and expose and propagate let people know about it everything's gonna fall into place exactly the way it should. You want to respond to the light skin acting thing.

Just another form of the racial war. A lot of times you're gonna find out the racial war is really a civil war. You don't really have a lot of interracial war going on. It's really interracial intro intro right? Yes, with a yes, exactly. David roll is just another example of it is another example of colorism Yeah, it's exactly what it is. And it's everywhere. It's in so many communities 75 Associate Executive Producer ship for David roll 66 for Curtis Collins. Much love from Jen and

Kurt love the show doing the work. saves us from the killer vaccine cognac King 2024 and Adam let's get a swamp thing ice. Oh please rock and roll. Oh my goodness. That's pretty bad. Okay, let's see if I do I have Do I have the Swamp Thing? I don't think I have. Jeez, I do have that. What is this? Um, blato I have the blog. The blog was really blog. What is this? Maybe this isn't this you see? I know you're not real man. Because I'm loaded.

Okay. I've had some experience in that area. Besides that whole rap of yours is bull Anyway good evil. It's all the same crap. Rock and roll is the only thing that counts dig hard ass blistering awesome heavy metal rock and roll that was from my huge acting career as Nathan the rock God on Swamp Thing. Inside moat a little moat inside baseball SWAT things scared the crap out of me as a kid. I can traumatize you with my episode is so good. creeped me out.

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word flesh. Okay. 5555 e indeed. Yes. And we have another anonymous donation. 5334 mo I've been very impressed with the work you and Mr. Curry put into the show. It is very thorough and eye opening as to the race class and gender divide that is US based As we know now, it's not just all US based, much of it is eminently transferable to other shores. That's right. I certainly noticed some crossover in Britain but our problems are

also different in subtle ways. I would like to plug a Carla's book natives for those who want to understand the UK imperialism. He's also an excellent speaker on many subjects and is worth following. Being This is donated in sterling I have no idea what the conversion of the donated amount will end up at but Mr. Curry will be pleased to hear that a proportion of this is provided by a value for value guitar lesson I did under lock down. They're both pleased with that.

Anyway, I've sent you a very long email that was inspired by episode nine, the subject that is ever present but not often discussed in most all British media letter known elsewhere. I will outline here just a teaser, which is Welsh not typically. Which is no tea I guess. The knot was a piece of wood or ruler or stick which was often inscribed with the letters w n. This was given to the first pupil to be heard speaking

Welsh. When another child was heard using Welsh that not an OT was taken from its current holder and given to the latest defender, whoever was in possession of the knot was encouraged to pass it on to any of their Welsh speaking classmates by informing the teacher they had caught someone else speaking Welsh, the pupil in possession at the end of the day was subjected to corporal punishment or other penalty man, the mind control is strong. This is crazy. Keep doing the Word.

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Wales. When I was flying in the UK I had a flight in Australia and flight pilots you know anyone go with me more as a safety pilot because he knew the area which I like having a safety pilot who's who knows the area and has been like an airline Transportation Pilot and he says the one thing you got to know here in the United Kingdom in Britain was that if you need to make an emergency landing anywhere but Wales so that's mine control has kept on going through through generations with

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That's very nice, the way you said that. Lindsey Heitmann $50 Mo and Adam, thank you for talking about the mental health shaming of Kanye. As someone with mental health problems watching that play out in the media. It reinforced every negative stereotype I've had of myself, sidenote, there's research that shows people with some mental health issues Make better crisis leaders. So Kanye just might be, quote, the lunatic we're looking for and she has a link that there is

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Now we have to get into the mindset. And the system that we referred to earlier that's being played on so called black people. So there's this very popular YouTuber called Daisy and Noah and he speaks about this phenomenon and reliving 2016 and Jacob Blake, let's break down the confabulations here. First and foremost, in order for blacks to have a respected voice, we must demonstrate a balanced and unconditional concern for our community. As a group, it has miserably failed at this

required step. How? Well let's focus on the word unconditional. We seem to only have rage against injustice under specific conditions. These are if a non black or white action violates a black body, though we by habit, tend to ignore when we violate our own. There was a curse of MDD between a spiritually and an engineer to psychological trauma induced systemically but that life shall hang in doubt before thee, and thou shalt fear day

and night, and shall have none assurance of that life. See, blacks have become an astonishment, a proverb, and a byword. Blackness is bought and sold as a product. generationally, our culture has been and continues to be formulated through the establishment media machine. And visuals of cops killing blacks is just part of the psychological traumatization, which in turn, produces a black victimhood and perpetuates a state of generational victimization.

I think I've seen this guy maybe the the Twitter algo through me that or something, tell me again, with the YouTube channel, I want to make sure we have that in the show notes days and over this is d A yz. of Noah is no Ah, okay. Very, very deep brother, um, has a master's degree in sociology, that doesn't matter what his credentials are. But just to make sure that people take him seriously. Because when you say YouTuber that smacks of a certain Yes, it's only a little better than podcaster.

Right? So they want to put you in a box. But you have very serious people, as you're going to hear later in this episode on YouTube making a case for the young black male and the black male in general. Yes. And as he stayed in here, the only time as far as alluding to before, the only time it really matters is when it's semi of non black descent, kills a black person.

So we had to be unconditional with this. So now we get to the portion of the show where Yeah, what about black on black crime, because that mean that is coming from people like him myself, that are serious about having that conversation, not using it as a tool of deflection, we really have to look at what's going on here. So he, like he broke it down, he was like that. Basically, the trauma of fees and to making us victims, the victim hood feeds into devaluing our life. And then it results

into a devalue life. sees another person as devalue live, like we saw in juice, saying, I'm not it. You're saying you're less than me, you know, so I can take you out anytime. That's that's the cycle. And this is why you see over and over again, black young black man callously taking other young black man's lives. So I mean, it is realization and we spot it the system. Now is us bringing attention to this system that that's been identified. So now we I'm speaking of Jews, he

makes a reference to that as well. And this next clip, oh, but you blacks keep killing other blacks. Why don't you ever address that? We hear that all the time. Though this is true. And one of my personal arguments as well, I understand why, and this Why is rarely addressed. So let's address it. Let's put this argument to bed for good. With three words. Pathological generational desensitization. See two generations of socially pitting blacks against blacks through pigmentation, class and

phenotype. A self hatred is psychologically created. If you hate yourself, you will hate your brother and your sister. In addition to this internal abuse, externally, blacks have become desensitized to killing other blacks through a strategic and ubiquitous debased death culture, a culture of death where murder and intercultural conflict is glorified. If you got the juice you get the respect Yeah. She he said it's a generational thing it no is constant

generational desensitization Yeah. It I made a loss for words because here we are, you have young black man down in the street, nobody really cares except for how they can extract it and use it for currency to push their their own narrative and causes if they died in the right way. And as and Exactly. And as he said, as the producer wrote in the letter, you hear people say, Oh, you're light skinned, you know you're acting

light skinned. So you have all these different fractures and battling points, you know, you're light skinned, you're dark skinned, you're dark skinned, black is ugly, you know, this is within the race, we, we haven't even stepped outside and start talking about inter racial relationships. This is our intro. And this is what devalues the you know, devalues black life in itself. And if you notice, Black Lives Matter, don't say black people matter. Or black men matter is black

lives lives is a product now. It's a product, it's just like MLK or anything else. You know, how does it impact black lives? I mean, no, how does it impact impact humans people, you know, but they don't they want to dehumanize them for their own own purposes. And like I said, we'll get to that later. It's it's a very subtly, but it's a very sophisticated productize ation. Yeah, cuz Who are we talking about? We save lives? I mean,

you can. We are even we even heard them say when they talked about what they're trying to change at their tech talks a while back in a few shows. I mean, like that early on in the making of the show, they went off on global warming and all these other things, but never said black men. Never. And I know I'm harping on black men. But I want to thank you, thank you again, because this because it's something that's so bothersome about black lives

matter. It is actually a deep, generative generalization that black people would have, of course, that somehow would be racist, I'm sure. But they'd never it's dehumanized by Satan. Because what are the other? You know, it's like, so many lives were lost on the good ship. Titanic. You know, it's like, it doesn't really personalize it in any way. And what it also does when they say black lives matter, you can move the goalposts because yeah, we brought you it's like, what's

it called the loss leader? Let me enter the loss leader. Doors. Oh, yeah. Come on in. Now, let's talk about trans lives. And let's talk about how global warming affects people of color. And you know, it gets you in the door. Shift. What lobs mean, what are you talking about? That's very impressive, very important point. That's a very important point. Because staring you right in the middle is, as you think about it. Yeah, and I understand, and that's what's so frustrating for

black man. It's like, do y'all not understand. But now when it starts to affect other demographics, people start realizing like, wow, you know, or we start to get a voice because what happened is here, before with the Boulais, they

could pick who they want to talk for us, right? But now, when you bring up this top topic of black on black crime, and death for black men and things of that nature, you have people like days, and no other gentleman that we played on the show, even myself, say, no, no, no, no, you're not going to control the narrative about us. We're gonna control this narrative. That's what caused the political fraction. And the Democratic Party are the black voting Democrats, because black men say

no, if it doesn't address us, we're not for it. You know, usually they just tell us to shut up and vote. I mean, you heard people saying those little words of shut up and vote. But now we're saying No, unless it address us, unless it's tangible. Unless you have a tangible way you can drive down the number of lives lost. We will take it from here. We'll talk for ourselves. I think it's live. It's live saved or created, I believe is the term jobs. Live saved created? Yes. That's how

politicians measure stuff. Yeah, yeah, that is good. But just so you know, because and of course, you know, but I want to reiterate it. Right. So black men are saying, Why don't they see what's going on? Because we literally didn't, because we were all wrapped up on our own shit, obviously. And all fairness, the people doing the speaking and stuff Are those rooms? Oh, we're not allies to us black men? No, of

course not. Even though they share the same pigment and melanin in their skin, it's like we're gonna for our agenda first, you know, we have a, we have an opportunity here. And just to foreshadow a little bit, we saw this with the VP selection. It wasn't about stopping black man get killed, you know, I mean, it was like, We want a black female president. I mean, Vice President Excuse me. But we'll

get to we'll get there. But let's let days and No, no, we'll finish up speaking on creating culture. See, decades, upon decades of this type of detrimental programming has rendered the black culture into a zealous or a Boris taking pride in eating its own tail. This is why it's so easy for blacks to kill blacks and not feel injustice. Because for decades, black on black conflict has been justified through establishment controlled media, major motion

pictures, and the music industry. We can always refer back to our studies on Plato, our studies on Aldous Huxley and many others in their focus on how music alone has a spiritual power and can literally condition the spirit and the mind through sound. And melody. These things aren't to be debated. This is why the music industry is so heavily utilized to socially engineer the public and create culture single handedly he's good guys good I like him but

there you have it. They've used culture or so called culture I mean it's a very toxic it really is a culture a death and I'm gonna say this is a cult a death. Let me let me correct that. Because Kali Ma, remember thugs come from Dougie. Dougie comes from India, which was a cult that worshipped Kali Ma, which was the destroyer, God or God is however you want to look at it. And this death cult continues on now you have black men call themselves thugs and they kill their death cult,

because that's all they're taught through music film. I mean, we would dress to hear juice, hip hop. I mean, we've addressed all of this, but I know you people are saying well, as a YouTuber mo ii, your YouTuber too. So let's go to the real serious people in the field. His next set of clips is from Tom Burrell. I don't know if you ever heard of him and I promise you you have but I'm not sure if you I think? Yes, I think so. Big Bad guy. Yes, I know exactly. You mean of course. Yeah.

He is Thomas J. Burrell, the founder and chairman emeritus of a rail communications group, one of the first black owned and operated advertising firms in the country, started in 1971. to target the african american market for rail Communications has conducted advertising campaigns for such major brands as Marlboro, McDonald's, Coca Cola, Johnson products and Verizon, and helped revolutionize the image of

African Americans in television advertising. He was inducted into the American advertising Federation Hall of Fame in 2005. And since retiring from Burrell communications, he has used the information he acquired during his 45 years in the advertising business to address some of the major challenges facing African Americans today.

Yes, I remember the agency Burrell McBain that was that was the agency that was this famous famous agency and they were actually competitor to my company at the time because we were with Omni calm. And they sold to publicists. Yes. A legend a legend in advertising. Click clear winner. Ah, he won a clear thing back in 77. With a McDonald's spot with McDonald's he sold McDonald's That's right. That's right. Remember that? Which makes me look at him sad. I mean, my Boulais Oh meter. I

got it all fired up. But when I started to look into the Burrell, um, advertisement on the community, excuse me and communications. They did an ad for McDonald's recently. It was called the good fight. And instead the spot featured a real life boxing coach and his daughter. As he literally puts her through the paces with the message that better does not happen overnight. And it goes on down and said this but it says at the parallel McDonald took their classic chicken nuggets.

to the next level by taking out artificial flavors, colors and preservatives. It says the Spa also aired on the 2016 Olympics and Rio missed the black girl magic. So here we have it. We can't have a black father and a black son going through the paces. Also questioning him like okay, for 45 years, you sold these little nuggets with artificial flavoring and coloring in it. So I'm just saying I'm just, I gotta be fair, when I when I look at that, look at these people.

Well, we're gonna let him speak. And he has some valid points to make one being on the false advertisement of race. That's the topic of his new book, brainwashed, challenging the myth of black inferiority, which was recently published by smiley books. Welcome. Good to be here. Sure. Tom, in your book, you try to answer a question that has bedeviled many people before you. Which is why do African Americans continue to lag behind

other groups in so many aspects of American life? And your conclusion is an intriguing one, that a 400 year old marketing campaign to promote white superiority and black inferiority has resulted in a deep seated internalized black inferiority complex that is keeping African Americans from achieving many of their goals. This is the brainwashing you're talking about in your book. Yes, sure, all. America has been sold a bill of goods through

false advertising. The Myth of black inferiority, The Big Lie, that there is an inherent inferiority that exist within a race of people. That is something that has been created in order to justify originally justify slavery within their democracy. And we see it borne out every day, from morning till night. Throughout our media media is the major carrier of the message. That media is the message. Oh, hey, wait a minute, is he flip flopping? Now? What's he

doing? He's like, Hey, by the way, all that stuff, all that stuff I did. That was really by it. And someone else did it. I guess. Now he went, Okay, let me explain to you. Let me grab my bull a cat back here. All right. Right, okay. All right. Wow, I got it. You look so powerful, right? He looks so powerful. Mr. Mobley,

thank you. Thank you. Um, what the Boulais tries to do here is that the 45 years of aiding and abetting the system that we spoke about, which, let's be honest, here, white supremacy, as we define on this show, the system at the 40 values of supporting aiding and abetting it, and even though what she said in his bio revolutionizing how blacks have seen an advertisement, not even say positive, negative, but he just revolutionized it. So the census is revolutionizing either way. Sure.

Right, right. Either way, he didn't, he didn't really say, trying to do that. That bleh had on keep keep the Boulay head on. Yeah. So what I have to do is say this. See, Adam, my children are don't suffer from the black inferiority complex you see here. So I want to point out, they're different than those common black folks. Okay. I got it. And so I had to do this sweet little trick here where I won't point back to the history of the television to now. I'll jump all

the way back to slavery. You said you say he's absolved himself or any responsibility. Yes. I say oh, slavery is not no bother not being in the home. We still need you poisonous food, like with the bliss, bliss point. This out is music, television. No, it's not none of that, Adam. So I'll take my bootleg hat off. That's what he's trying to take your hat off and I just came up with a Well, I'm a conspiracy therapist. So I'm analyzing the situation. In 2013 Burrell I

think, bro communication so no longer bro. McBain but bro communications launched rising tide, a aspirational social network for millennials sponsored by tide. And I know a little about tide. Ty Hamilton in in college my roommate he taught me about tide. So is it possible though, that to flip the tables and just kind of like a wink wink nudge nudge that he continued with the tide account and created a covered camp Hane

that featured dumb shit white kids eating Tide Pods. Do you think that that could have been something he had up his sleeve? I'll have to look into that quite possible. But what me when you say rising tide? Oh, yeah, no, my daughter. I know isn't. Remember that's the nonstarter that, you know, this is where this is where they're antiquated. This goes to show you that their mom says antiquated is not meant for the 21st century, the guy is what

they have to do is go back and rewrite history. As we've seen with gunslingers. Everything else is like, no, no, no, no, no, it wasn't the Coca Cola and Marlboro. Of course, all the things that we saw in the black community is slavery. That's the problem. He's which, yeah, go ahead. Yes. So it is a claim. Now then people say, well, well, no, you're pro rhetoric. That's because it's a legal claim there. What I'm saying is that, and I've said this before, and I'll say it

again, I don't care how much people get upset. The narrative of slavery is just as dangerous as the act itself, because it feeds into self victimization, get bombarded us with images of carrying out this whole myth of black inferiority, daily Arlie by the minute, constantly reinforcing it in all these different ways that we talk about, and in the in the book, and these are the kinds of subtle images that we're constantly being

bombarded with. And basically, they've been effective is what you're saying they have been, it's the it is the most effective advertising campaign in the history of this country, the myth selling the myth of blacks being inferior. And that's, that's part of the brainwashing, but that's not but that part is not necessarily coming from the white culture isn't it's not coming from the black culture.

Well, the thing the thing about brainwashing Scherl is that once a principle of brainwashing is that the brain washed, becomes the brain washing become the brain washer, okay, right. The hurt, hurt the the abused become the abuser, that is a that is a natural component of brainwashing. And so, in all these areas, we, at some point in our history have taken on our

own victimization. We take it over, Man, this guy, not only he's still doing this, his he still has a foreign agency that is driving change for social justice inequality and protecting our green spaces. Right, but the self victimization like it that's what does it that feeds itself? Yeah. You could probably program it was some colors. What? But isn't that rigor we call my control? Yes. And can we say these kinds of things? That's totally now but we have

somebody behind the curtain. Tom Maria was in those rooms making no decisions on what images to show black people what would resonate with black people? You know, so he's part of the problem. But I now think with any booth, a member, they get a guilty conscience, they need to rewrite history, they get into a we all do it when we get old, you know, we want to write our wrongs. But at the same time, he didn't want to take the responsibility for his actions. So they want to jump all the way

back back slave labor, is it? Yeah, it's always back to slavery. It's like, no, let's start with Wow, wow, from slavery to the 1950s that we drive, he wants to systemic he wants to get away from it to his part of it, obviously. Well, it's two things. One, he wants to get away from it, but also to he doesn't want his children to bear the weight of blackness. You're gonna come to find out a lot of people don't want to use and carry that term black anymore. And what comes

along with it. So if you had to Boulais pulling away from the common black people or the ordinary black people, then you'd have black women pulling away from black men like oh, they're the prop the other ones really killing each other. Not us. Let us in the whiteness. Yeah, and when I'm talking I'm not talking about you everyday running the mill. Black women I'm talking about that Colvin that you're saying Can cockpit. Oh, yeah, we want a female vice president. That's what we really

want. That's really going to show the change that they want to pull away from blackness. That's the thing and the rich want to pull away from blackness. And now all you have left is this subset of black men. It's like oh, yeah, let's Yeah, let's use them. natter still useful. Yeah, yeah. Jeez, well, so, yeah, but this

is it is so it's like you gotta you gotta laugh. But you know, the Black Twitter of course I get I got great Twitter, man, we got to really examine some, some black advertising, because I look I work with this guy's agencies and you know, I I'll find out what account it was we had some cross work. So I had a pretty big company back in the 80s 90s. But now we really and I

feel very responsible for some things, MTV for sure. But we got to look at what some of these AdWords because McDonald's is so much incredibly, you know, imagery brands, Coca Cola, yeah. Yep. Diabetes. Yeah. McDonald's, diabetes, hypertension, Marlboro lung cancer. I think there was a alcohol company and I'm not mistaking. I don't put that on

my phone. Not for sure. I'm just saying but look at all these companies to advertise for, to what to market to black people that lead to comorbidities that leave us right for when a pandemic comes. This is what happens. So the blood is on your hands. I don't want I don't want to put this on you. It is what it is. And then you have the only way you can exist as a black man now in America is to be afraid of your life. Be afraid for your life. Check it

out. Planned Parenthood is one of their clients. McDonald's You're right. What is this Seagram escapes? Liquor Store also, they're literally cirrhosis of the liver. Coca Cola, glut holism GlaxoSmithKline. That's the that's the remedy to the shit you get from the other clients. Exactly. So it's self feeding. But here it is infinity LGBTQ X I'm sorry. XFINITY Xfinity LGBTQ

is a is a Comcast channel I guess. Huh? Yeah, okay. So we need to do if this is going to be a 13 hour show this is just too good this stuff okay. I don't mean to drag it out. But let's let's get into his his take on studs and slips. Another area you talk about is relationships between black men and women and family dynamics. Certainly, relationships between

black men and women are known to have been troubles. African Americans certainly have a lower marriage rate than any other group we have a lack of stable families which has a big impact on both black children and adults. You say that this is partly the result of popular culture which promotes black men as roots and black women as slips the studs and slips

campaign. So you fast forward 400 years and this theme seems the studs Institute sluts theme seems to be carried out certainly, in the music videos are produced and acted in by black people. Yes. Yes. And it's you know, it's really I want to believe that it's, it's not a malignant kind of intention. I believe that it's insensitive, we have been conditioned to victimize ourselves with the use of the N word denigrating misogyny

denigrating our women killing each other. This is part of the conditioning that nobody wants to talk about. Oh, MO Yes, now I feel it now I see now I see why yeah Dan blew my mind that blew my mind. Out of one question. Do you know what the number one song in the country is right now was yeah, maybe we could go I mean, what it was or what Whap you tell me mo and does that not align with the studs and sluts?

That is the narrative Yes, Cardi B for anybody who was not hip and Megan and Megan the stallion all make negative style some of the valleys and like I said, I don't I'm not I'm not easy to make blush. But I finally heard it like on the radio. I'm like the lyrics I mean, forget the video. The lyrics are I mean, that's not just suggestive. And and why girls will defend it and why presidential candidates will go talk to these people. Bernie Sanders, you're right. And Joe Biden.

You know what the, when I called out a couple of my, my favorite millennials, white girls. And I said, Why is this? Okay? They're what they said back to me. Fair enough, was we've been hearing the same crap from black men for years. Fair point. Don't don't make it right. Don't No, of course two wrongs don't that makes everything right now and in America, but yeah, doesn't make it right. You're absolutely right.

And Nick, and this is the point of women and society, the point that makes them so important, and devalue, you know, they make us civil. As we talked about the Wild West, it was like, who had the fastest gun, you know, it's never to take and we're gonna take it, women keep us civilized, in a way, helps, you know, they keep us from that caveman mentality, hopefully. Because they, you know, they say The Hand That Rocks, the cradle rules the world. So a mother teaches you a don't know, take,

say Be nice, please, those kinds of things. So if you're raised up in a Whap household, yeah, Jesus Christ without a father. And do you wonder, you wonder why. But don't take my word for it. Listen to white Mike. Now in this time, I learned a lot of beautiful things about a lot of beautiful people. I learned a lot of ugly things about myself. And I learned a lot of dark things about the

nation in which we live. But I also learned that I being white Mike, specifically, the white part, have a lot of power. White. Mike has a question today. And that's this. How come when you turn on the radio in Jacksonville, or New Orleans, or Chicago, or Little Rock? The only people on the radio that talks about how great it is to kill each other? Or black? How come that exist? 15 stations on a dial go up go down. The only people on the radio bragging about getting automatic weapons

gunning each other down are black. This right here is a song. My pastoral vocabulary won't let me read the title. But I will read this catchy young black male not paying attention that the red light with your AK 47 Let me see you shoot it. You're a killer. You're a killer. You're a killer. You're a killer, black male. Let me see you prove it. Why does this exist? Yeah, white Mike. I had not heard of white Mike. He looks pretty interesting.

So this is my mic with Reverend Michael Smith. And he's from the TED TEDx Jacksonville. He's a pastor. And he was the white guy in a predominantly black environment. So somehow white Mike is the thing and most black communities there in the White might I don't know what is. I think it stems from the wham brothers show because they had my right wing. Yeah, of course. Of course. Yeah. I remember that. I mean, he he jokingly refers to himself as White might because

they were like, it was several mics in the church. Anyway, have you seen mine and they've liked who and they didn't know his last name. So it kind of stuck. But he brings up valid points. Why is it that this kind of boy guarantee I'm not gonna go there. This is another show for another day that vulgarity and, you know, the sex sexualization, but the murder? Yeah, in one breath, and he broke up, bring up a great point about, um, young white females. How one minute they'll have Black Lives

Matter on you know, all on their tick tock. Yeah. And then the next minute, they're dancing to walk them down, which is a very popular song now talking about how one black man walks down on another black man with the chopper. If you don't know what chopper it is the AK 47 se na da is not good enough. You got to walk them down. They'll dance to that. Do choreography to that

but then tell you Black Lives Matter? Are these people sick? I ask that in all seriousness, well, it you know, this, this, of course, started well, hip hop started nice and kind of, you know, kind of like friendly. And, you know, it was a hip hop to the hip to the hibbett of hip hop. You don't stop rocking. It was like that. Right? And then it just, you know, I think if I think because MTV, I'm trying to think if we did didn't real gangster rap. It just seems it was kind of friendly.

Late at well, no, it was friendly. At first jokingly Will Smith haha, right. Right, right. datas those kinds of things. Yeah. And then public enemy comes along. Consciousness is starting to bleed into and they're like, Oh, no. Oh, no, we can't have that. We can poison poison the whale. And that's exactly what you had. And that's why you heard I rang my bell when Burrell He's talking. He's like, Well, you know, I don't want to think it was, you know, done on intention. He didn't say

that I think. I think I've got the word he used, but basically implying that he didn't want to step on his record industry friends toes. He knows it was done by design. Isn't it interesting that you can't post something on Twitter, about hydroxychloroquine because it might might kill kill you. But you can certainly post a snippet from any of these music videos. Where it's literally literally, we're literally people saying, I'm going to kill this guy, actual killing.

But let's just do a one to one correlation. Because if people say Oh, well, that's you know, that's not the same false equivalent, you can easily put your false equivalency so you can easily post about drinking lane, which is prescription Cossart. Nobody says anything. But if you talk about hydroxychloroquine Oh, I'll take them now. To take him down. Check him out now. Right. So why am I brings up the question is, where are the killer whites?

I'll take it even further. Because a lot of time racism exists in what we in what we don't know what we don't see. Where are the white killers on the radio? Where are the white ak 47 shooters? Where are the white drug dealers? Where are the white people on the radio that brag about what it's like to murder witnesses before trial? The truth is they don't exist. And the question is why? Why don't they exist? Do white people not kill people? Do white people not use AK 40 sevens to

shoot each other? I mean, we know do white people not do drugs? And they're not do drugs? Of course they do. But why is it that it doesn't make it to our mainstream radio? Why is it that we don't hear it hundreds of times a day in hundreds of cities across the nation 1000s of plays that say the idea that a black guy would kill another black guy is something to be celebrated. Something to be romanticized. Yeah, true that through that, just to make one point I'm white, Mike's on a roll so I

don't want to stop them too much. I just want to make one valid point. Notice Eminem is his top surprise selling MC right now over to pot. He didn't have the thug mentality. He rapped about killing his mom and taking prescription drugs. It's like no, if he if he if he rapped about the Post Malone. Let's just use your sand. Who's popular now? He doesn't rap about that kind of stuff. No. So Right. So Right. Intention people pay attention. He's alright, thrill seekers.

And maybe that maybe it's because there's no white audience for it. Or maybe it's because it's not really marketable. Maybe because it's not good. Can't get sponsors. I don't know why it is. Or maybe it's because it's just not the white man's role. Or maybe when white people get up and talk about being drug dealers and ak 47. Killers. Maybe it's even sicker than that. Maybe when white people do it, they're accused of acting black. The truth is in America, black

murder is normal. Black murder is normally the idea that a black man or black woman would be involved in a homicide either as a perpetrator or victim is so common, so broadly accepted that basically goes unnoticed. The truth of the matter is black families are affected by homicide rates of 10 times their white counterparts. There will be more death in the form of homicides involving black people this year than any other form of

violence that dominates our national conversation. More than school shootings, mass shootings, mass shootings, workplace shootings, lovers twist lovers trips that turned violent and bloody even more than in war and in terrorism, no one will lose their life in greater numbers. And then black Americans involved in violence. You know, black murder in our country is not only comes normally frequent, but it's an

idea that we celebrate it's an idea that we say is is okay. We actually make heroes out of the notion heroes out of people that trivialize and romanticize it. Every time I show this information, people always say, Well, it's the number three

cause of death for white males. What is the number one cause of death and without fail year after year, it's called unintentional injuries, accidents, falling off a four wheeler crash into, you know, a go kart or you know, bungee jumping without paying attention to you know, knots and things like that. So basically, the American story is white kids are dying because they're clumsy, and black kids are dying, because they're gunned down. How old is this clip?

I think this is in 2000. Think 1716 I think somewhere around here because just headaches just because we're looking at you know how media influences our thinking etc. And it may be a little different. I'm not sure we're just want to put it a little side note that fentanyl and opioid od I think is certainly positioned in the media as a white person's problem. It is but it's not nice. Cars of course is there but yeah, it is it is but it's not but then they also just a side tangent on

that. Um, people will say oh, well, they don't want to prosecute white people. No, they don't want to prosecute the white Doctors did come from, you know, upper class. That's what I mean if it was crank or meth or whatever, they allow everybody up. But it's like, if you start talking about locking people up for prescription drugs, a lot of wasps are going to jail. So it's like, no, we don't want to go down that route. But I want to make one point. He pointed out the accidental deaths, the

bungee jumping the ATV four wheelers. Sure skateboarding is up there X Games, you know, behavior. That's thrill seeking behavior, right? Young man, you know, pushing the boundaries, I won't die. I mean, we have this, you know, we have this arrogance and where you're young that you can't die. So you know, you push it to the limit. Why is it that young black male can't have the same mentality? It's a game to a lot of them. A lot of these kids

are not sociopaths. It's a game. It's Aha. You know, like, you know, when I tell you, No, I'm gonna tell you something. I'm sorry. No, it's a bad habit, I'll tell you is like, I'm trying to kick that. Lots of people have that one. Because we've seen more shootings on TV. I know what you're talking about. Because I see these kids, I'll just call them kids. I see these men, mainly men. And they got you know, they got the Glock nine with a huge magazine hanging out of that thing. And then like Pom

Pom, and they're shooting sideways. I'm like, and a lot of it misses. A lot of it is just, it's just ridiculous. I hate the, like cowboys and Indians but with live ammo. And yeah, being too. It's our thing. It's LARPing. But it is also a thrill seeking. Yeah, it's a very, very, very unsafe way of, of thrill seeking. But yeah. It's part of mechanisms, the mechanism now you have a one kid that goes down a 50 foot ramp, you know, on a skateboard.

Right? Right. And then volley breakers MC, or you see me to have MTV show that shows clip at the clip at a clip kids getting their arm broke teeth knocking out, knocked out the entire movies of white kids doing this. Right. So I'm just what I'm saying is say it's the same behavior. But the behavior manifests itself in a different way of Let's Play this loud. Act, right live action roleplay

game of bugging. Yeah, you know, I'll pop shots your way you pop shots my way, you know, we know and then but then it escalates to what we talked about before it gets on the wire, and so on. So punks, it gets serious. Yeah. Or you enter you counter, you interact with the super predator, or a, b, and unfortunately, this, of course, but unfortunately, you know, sometimes you'll see that some spectator got injured at a, you know, at some kind of

skateboarding competition or a motorsport event. But you rarely hear about, you know, the baby in the crib at three in the morning who got killed by the at the skateboarding event. That's why of course, it appears different. But I'm going to I'm going to agree with you. That for young men, yeah. It's it that is happens to be their thrill, which we should probably try and stop some of that. Yeah, it's just I want to keep going. But you brought this up.

So I had to read about talking about on the show. But I was in another part of Virginia meeting someone. And I walked into a Wawa. And I'm like, Okay, I see two young black males, and they were young. I mean, you could tell her young pants sagging, tight jeans on with big ass pistols. Hey, I mean, not even, not even a concealed just hanging out. So I'm, like, you know, the talk that my dad had, he was and this is what, I'd had to tell the story just for the talk. So I'm like, Okay, let me

keep my eye on these two. He was saying because he's shot starting to pop off. I need to know where they're coming from. And I need to know where my nearest exit is. I mean, this it automatically just goes you know, you just trigger in. So I'm getting my sandwich from Wawa. I'm sorry, I'm not familiar with Wawa it's like a gas station which has like a subway built into it

basically okay. Where it's like as you're gonna find in quote unquote black communities certain Convenience stores are the hotspot what you hear a lot of crime if I'm waiting to get the drop on somebody. I know they got to come by beer a bunch of cigarettes. So I'll just wait here. Now just call the god yeah. Gotcha. Um, so I'm sitting here, I'm like, these boys can't be 21 I mean, baby face with big ass guns. And so I hear a ruckus at the door and I'm like, I'm like, Okay, I'm sliding to the

other exit. I'm like, I'm about to roll out without my sandwich. Um, but it was this guy named Nick. I know nicknames now because Nick, he's like, What are y'all doing out here like this? He's like, you know, saying, dude, you're gonna be like your brother. Big black guy. muscular, right? Plenty of games. He's counseling these black kids football coach works in correctional facilities, and hate and I'm like, after they leave, I'm like, Man, I'm like, wow, that was the worst assault.

Right? That's great. I got Nick's number. So I'm gonna be talking to Nick down the line. I just want to give some examples as clove. They don't even care no more like the guns were just like out like, what it was like Wild Wild West. I mean, that's what you know. Like, wow, like, this is like real wild, wild west. We blew my mind. But I just wanted to give that you know, that anecdote, because it's real. It is real out here. And you know, but I digress. But I sorry about that. But oh, thank

you. That's, stories are great to hear. All right. So um, let's get back to Donald Trump with number 27. Now, we don't have maybe two shoes today. You can't get away with it. Nobody, nobody will put out there. But we do have black people to get on the radio every day in Why don't companies White owned stations with white owned sponsors that play the role of hyper sexualized, hyper criminalized male? I asked these advertisers say I've got 102 songs a day that celebrate

killing animals, will you put them on your station? They said no, I got hundreds of songs a day that talk about assaulting women and abusing kids. Would you put them on your station? They said no. I said I got hundreds of songs a day to talk about murdering blacks. Would you put them on your stations? They say Well, that depends. Depends on what who it's done by and who it's branded for. Because we can get black folks to sing about it. We can branded for our youngest black

audiences. I think there's money to be made. I think there's American appetites to see these people that way. Yeah, yeah, that's how I met when I wasn't invited that meeting. So that's so sick, you know that that's so sick. I'm sorry. I'm sure you've you've read the story about Music Business Insider who claims that all of this was predetermined, all the gangsta rap, all the violence was was all set in motion by design.

I'm a believer of one meeting. No, no, it's not a series of meetings and people need, you know, nudges that kind of thing? Well, I just want to say because it's so hard for people to believe that the media actually is controlled and has a message that is determined, created or determined. It's determined, and is and is intended to be sent down the line. And having worked in many for big mainstream broadcast organizations,

including the one in that was definitely a part of this. Do I think that anyone I really knew or interacted with knew about some part of this big plan? No. But it was, hey, they want you to do this or that? Who's they up the pursuits up at the office, and you become desensitized to it? You do. I mean, you just, I became desensitized to all kinds of stuff. And certainly selling alcohol to a lot of children. That was a big part of my job indirectly.

And we talked about this, the higher ups when we were talking about COVID. You know, do this, put them on a ventilator? Who told you to do is the higher ups you know, so it's not like everybody that worked and worked it off. Philip Morrison are these other cigarette companies were complicit, you know, I mean, it's not. It's it's very just stay. So basically, when you build a Kartell, it has to be compartmentalized. Yes. Where

everybody doesn't know everything. It's like, Just do your job and trust the system. Just system is true, but it works by broadcast television works that way. And I'm not even saying the people up at the office really had the whole the whole scoop on it. Lots of influences in the music business. Lots of stuff happening. You hear about how sex and drugs and yes, blackmail, all that stuff, all of it. All of it happened. Pap is being it's being unveiled now it's being unveiled because of so much

media. I mean now because of YouTube and because of well, because of cameras, camera phones, and handheld devices. Now I'm seeing you show me enough street brawls of of people shooting at each other I don't like this this is and I'm old enough. This is a bunch of damn kids and that yeah, they play in them. It's real. But your point going back to the start of it was not necessarily hardcore criminals, not little yummies. It's a bunch of no dipshits with live ammo.

Generalization low and lows and no live ammo and low self esteem is a deadly combination is a very, very deadly. So good luck. Was it live ammo and low self esteem low self esteem. That's so good. That's like, that's almost it's better than under informed and over socialized? White Alright, so um, I guess we can wrap up with Michael Smith, aka white Mike, with 28. I said, How can you say that? They said, well look at what

these artists know. It's what they black people create. It's matter of fact, our survey say it's what they want to hear, which speaks of a sickness, how do we live in a society where somebody says, You know what, I'm inspired to write a song that celebrates murdering another person. And then a person says, I'd like to put that on my station or the person, I'd like to pay for it. And then there's people out here

in the audience that go, I'd love to hear it. As long as it's black guys, because even white people buy rap music, buy this type of stuff. Because we know that when we want to hear about killing each other, we know who to turn to, for that type of inspiration. We call it our music. We say we own it. White people buy more rap than black people. Yeah. But we're very careful to turn it down at the stoplight when other black people are there. Why? Because we know we're just pretending

for them. It's more authentic and real. I always ask the company is what about your name? What about your brand? What about your value, and the largest radio company in the world said this, it's okay, that we only have drug dealers on our black youth stations. We only have murders on our black youth stations. We support black charities we give out water at the Martin Luther King parade. I think we've got it covered. We bought them off.

It never ceases to amaze me how you can take what I think I already know about how the world functions, particularly the United States. And blow my mind again, by showing me out by like this is how big it really is. This is the real system in place. This is not systemic racism. This is a systemic death machine. That's just that's just churning all day. And it's too big for us really to see right in front of our face. You had to take a huge that back on a perch. Yeah. And like

surveyor from bird's eye view to see the whole system. It's all big. To what and though it's ultimately in control of all of us. To what what is this all about? Now that black on black crime has become such a hot button issue, that people that had to have answers for it. Want to say it's a myth now? Oh, okay. There's no such thing as black, black, black crime. That's what's so fascinating to me. And I think why people continue to respond negatively to that phrase, because it doesn't

exist. It's a myth. Right? Like, if you actually look at the statistics, all violent crimes, the majority of violent crimes in this country statistically happen in short, racially, right? Because you actually have to look at what inspires crime. And the majority of them happen with people who know one another, or in close proximity and in communication, but in

community with one another. So this idea that there's something uniquely pathological about black people and the way that they commit crimes that is different than the way white people commit crimes is it's flat out inaccurate and race. Thank you. It's a myth. It's a myth. And well, no, it's kind of interesting, because on the one hand, of course, it's happening. On the other hand, is it any you know, it's like saying, white guys aren't aren't hurting each other

and themselves on skateboards? You know, it. It's clearly happening. It's just calling, but and you just said, Well, they're not necessarily criminal. So is this killing a crime? Or is just black on black killing? You know, there's all I'm explaining to you how they're doing. They're putting this in their 70s. Human pretzel? Yeah, get around this black on black crime issue. They'll say, Well,

black people harm other black people at the same rate. What I mean by rate percentage, you know, so 90% of the crimes against black people are done by black people will they'll go to white people and say, well, 90% of the crimes by white people proximity, but we're not talking about the percentage of who the victim and who the assailant is. We're talking about the volume for us to only be 13% of the population and black men, only six and a half percent. The volume of Black Death is

ridiculous. We'll see. They don't want to talk about that. Because if you ask that question you got to add who's We run in Baltimore, Chicago, Louisiana, Miami, all these different places. And then it goes back spout politics at the end of the day. So now the Democrat black Democrats and their flunkies have to work themselves often under this pin down called black on black crime. So it's now oh, there's no it's a myth. Okay, all right, I gotcha cost. That's

why they don't want black men talking about it. Because when we talk about it, we're gonna say, well, who's been in control for the last few years and decades? How did he get to this? No. And it's like, no, no, no, it's a myth. It's a myth, and that's why they want to pivot to cops. It's like, oh, the cops the cops are bad. We don't talk when I talk about black on black crime anymore. It's a myth. And she's not only what that was for HLN I was just gonna say Who was that? Who was that on HBO? I

don't know her name. She was a Black Lives Matter activists. But I think maybe it's show her name. I looked it up we can find it. But not only her. We have DL Hughley Sana same thing. Every crime committed in the United States of America is two to one, black to white, white to black. They actually have more white on white crime than black on black crime. But when you call it black on black crime, that gives them marching orders, never gives them a call to arms. So now they can come and brutal

because there's a sense of urgency. You'll hear black people saying all black on black crime that didn't exist. It exists there has to be Asian or Asian, or Latin. Aladdin crew. Absolutely. Crime is about proximity. You heard the ones you love because you close to them. If you take any any living organism, and you put it in a small space with limited

resources, it will kill anything around it. Yeah, black on black crime is nothing but that is biology that she just happened on your lawn right now with weeds in the grass, fighting for resources, but you believe that you are inferior, because they tell you a success thing is black on black when you see the treatment plan and guess who DL Hughley worked for a major radio company? I'm sure that they peddle in blacks, smart music, smart music. I mean, it's not me excuse me

snuff music? Oh, excuse me? Yes. Well, it can be smart, too. It depends on like snuff? Yeah, yes. Black snuff music? I mean, he won't call it out. Because then he has to call out his sponsors and the record labels and all that. So now and then the politicians like where are y'all at when is going on? So now it's like, Oh, it doesn't say snug. I want to break down the math right quick. He says one on a two out of every three

crimes are two to one is black, white to black. So every for every three crowns to two are done by white people don't know why we are done by black people. We're only 13% of the population. I mean, I know a little bit about math to tell you that it's way out of proportion. Calling it snuff songs is a very good is a very good idea. If you say snuff film, people freak the fuck out. That's a snuff, Snowflake, snowflake snuff film, to say to snuff song? Is what

the hell was that? What do you think of when snowflake? Well, that's really Yes, this is That's enough songs, go listen to it, listen to it, listen to it, listen to it. I just wanted to say we need to use that or something like it's not a great word. It triggers people, it could be useful. I'll make it I'll make a note of that. Because that's exactly what it is. That's what comes to mind. Like I said, that's what comes to mind when I hear it. Now, I'm not saying that. I

don't enjoy rap music, but I have a mature enough mind. And I had a two parent household to wit and tolerated. So obviously it tells me something's not right about it. But you know what, it's still enjoyable. But it was still the balance there to say, hey, it's something I'd write about it because I got to listen to my Walkman and not in the car with my mom and dad. Right? You know, I mean, there's that balance there. Why can't

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Mo fund me.com Emma Moe f u n d m e.com. And thank you again for supporting episode 48. Well, this is the portion of the show that we get to discuss the gender war that's going on going on months amongst so called black people. Okay. And to set that up, we have to go back to show 38 is a throwback clip. And this is from the Washington Post. And this is the black women from black ink. I mean make that clear. Telling body you need black women voters.

Vice President Biden you need us you owe us remember, black women are miracle workers. We have been saving the Democratic Party since 1965 2020 is no different. Your only path to victory is through black women, the voters who need to turn out, we know how to mobilize them. Our votes must not be taken for granted. The following commitments will begin to show black voters that you are serious about us America needs a black woman vice president candidates like Amy Klobuchar will not energize us.

America needs a black woman's justice. Remember Anita Hill? We do. America needs more in a comprehensive Black Agenda. The rules are rigged against our communities. Wow, who put that together? This is the Washington Post and it had all that yes, I remember it was who it was the Angela MRI. The lady from Black? Black votes matter? Yeah. A lot. A lot of bool. A lot of the Black Witch Coven in Hollywood, the Boulais Broadcasting

Corporation. Yeah, so one reason why I had to set this up using this clip is they gained so much clout and leverage from the black dead body of George Floyd. Every minute that cops knees stayed on George Floyd's neck, their value and leveraging went up. And this is the grant X they use from that leverage. Not criminal justice not you know, killing black men. None of that. We want a female black president. I mean, our Vice President. Well, you know what, it's a Freudian slip, but it

might be accurate because Joe Biden's conviction. I think that's why I keep I keep I keep wanting to say it I think you know, the truth wants to come out. Exactly. But black female Supreme Court Justice is black female, there's black female that stuff. Now you're using the leverage of a dead black man on the street caught on film being a brutally murdered, allegedly. I mean are you know, I mean, I know for legal reasons. We had

to, you know, say say things a certain way. But every like I say every minute that needs stayed on that neck, their value went up and they're like, we're gonna capitalize on this and go for the big ask. And that's what they that's what they came up with nothing contributing to the plight of black men nothing contributing to the environments that cause the What we've laid out as black on black crime. Now we want to rise the female vice

by black female vice president. That's what we want. Not even a black vice president. They didn't go there. They were just like, we want a female. Yeah. So what this what you're seeing is, black women are becoming their own demographic, separate from black men and power base and power base, but only one they may want it miscalculation, their understanding of math. And it's the same one as us on black on black crime. What do they say, Hey, we vote 1990 95% into voting. are black women vote

democratically? Yeah, but you don't have the volume. You need the black male vote, the volume of votes to make action happen. And black men are saying no, no, no, no, no, we're tired of being used. This is what you're witnessing right now. And I found an interesting clip from Dr. T. Hassan Johnson, this is another brother on YouTube. But he's a professor, very informative. And he coined this term, I've never heard it before. I looked all over, I never heard anybody else. Use

it. So if you hear anybody else use it, we got to give this brother credit for it. And it's called the COC you serve. So as you can see today, and we're talking about the reality of black men's disposable role as CompuServe. So I've covered this in another show, the whole concept of khaki serves is bringing together two basic ideas, the concubine and the surf. And this, in many ways has to do with the social expectation of black men, both in the largest society, but more

particularly within black America. The idea that black men are not only disposable, but their roles are to serve as sexual concubines, as well as serfs, right, who are really just designed to serve you lift bear that tote so on and so forth. The disposability, right, so the idea of the coffee serve, and how our lives and our deaths can be taken for taking for

granted. We don't talk as much about our lives, because there's all kinds of consciousness contestation and shaming that goes on, we talk about what black men experience in their own community. Right. But it but it's clearly evident in our deaths, how we're perceived, and how our deaths are often used for everybody's advancement, but black men themselves. And one of the biggest indicators of that is how much policy has been developed in the last few decades to stem the tide of

those deaths. Right. Very little. And yet and still, the social expectations play on. Wow, no, I have not heard CompuServe. Now, if you had to define CompuServe, how would you now define that? Okay, so black man have two purposes. For these class of people, either were used for sexual purposes. That's why, you know, you know, you know, this stereotype, whether it's true or not, and then basically, slaves do this, fix this. Shut up,

don't make any noise. Basically, the underclass were the were the floor of the floor. And that I say that in all seriousness, and these black eight women, you hope to use, like I said that the only value George Floyd could bring into this world is dying. That's it. Yeah. Where does the con Q come from? Kochi buy from concubine. Yeah. And then serve? As Yes. S E RF. Yes, I got it. Yes. So when he coined this term, this is what turned my whole show. Just so

people know. I'm sorry. I just want people to understand that not everyone knows concubine. Just want to give you the bond is like a great place. It's a woman who lives with a man, but has lower status than his wife or wives. So that goes to the point that we're not good enough to be husbands. Yeah. But to be flaunted as sick, and there's this weird parallel between the white woman and the black man. We're kinda in the same position in our respective races, because

I told you we live in a matriarchy. Why society is the patriarchy, black society is a matriarchy. So black men are expected to behave the same way. As in Oh, and I'm generalizing here a lot. But the same docile, be quiet the same way white women are expected to be portrayed to be, you know, like the, you know, you know, they say white women you know, they're very very submissive, that kind of thing. Black men are expected to be that counterpart on the black side.

So that's where the khaki serve comes from. Got it? Got it. Wow. So when I heard this clip, it illustrated and encapsulated everything I want it to say. And I was like, You know what I had to show done. I had to show right when I called you. Yeah, I was like, ready to roll? And then I heard this, and I was like, No, you got to tear all the way down. Yeah, it's far more important to have this nice done. Oh, people are saying, well, Mo, that's kind of far fetched. What are you saying?

What I'm saying is, black men are used for sacrifice. For other demographics to progress into whiteness. Black men are used for sacrifice for other demographics, to what? progress into whiteness. So these group of women, they're trying to get into whiteness. So it's like, yeah, we'll use the same way Democrats used to use black people. It's just, it's just internally now. You know, there were for Queens there,

blah, blah, blah. They're this they're that they're illiterate, you know, poor poor, black people, poor black people, white white Democrats used to do that. But now as black women have blacking let me be clear, because a lot of sisters out here their allies. And I want to point out and if you look at our donation list, I think a lot of women get it. Yes. Because we have a very balanced support. Yes, I agree. So I want to make

that clear. But what I'm saying is, it's very beneficial. Now, it's like you hear him say, we're the most educated demographic there is. Notice they separate themselves out. Oh, it's the black men killing black men and black men or white men, white black men are the white people, or black people, you hear these terms thrown out, all we need. And that's all we need is to hear? Well, you never seen black women kill Black women do you?

That is coming is coming. So I have Reverend and white Mar. And he speaks on the ritual sacrifice Black Heritage Trail of image. So this lecture focuses on the ritual sacrifice of black men in particular, as an instrument for creating a cohesive and unified body of people called white. So in this development of the screen of racial contempt, that I'm calling the first stage of sacrifice. While it certainly includes the murder of African

Americans, it was, it was the murder of their humanity. In the eyes of European Americans, that was sacrificed in the development of white identity, more than just the basement, it was the symbolic murder of their identities offered up in order to engender another identity. So Rene Girard writes, the purpose of sacrifice is to restore the harmony to community to reinforce the social fabric, and that the common denominator that exists between behind all sacrifice is internal violence.

And the dissensions, the rivalries, the jealousies, and the quarrels of the community, by design, are suppressed by sacrifice, and slow. So what they're saying is, if no black men are put on the altar to sacrifice, I'm not just talking about physically murder, but the image, you know, the stereotypes, all of that if a novice put up there, it will bring harmony, because then they can say, Oh, well, that's not us. We're not like them. Right?

You know, and as they progress into whiteness, what we've described whiteness to be is nothing but what the Wasp set as the model for how the world should operate, aka white supremacy in a western Western society. Girard isolates three distinct bodies within the community, the model, the rival, and the ritual victim. And he sees within the community a driving function of competition, and the potential

for violence. So the model in our case, the plantation elite, or elite whites, are in possession of an object, they're in possession of something. And then political realm, we might think of the soleus capital. But if we think of it more broadly, they're really in possession of something called YT which stands for all sorts of things, concepts of election purity,

goodness, and Providence. And I was doing research and widen your library and Harvard and they, they had this book and it had something like the 23 races of English people, which which sounds Surprising, right? But not really, right? But it all feeds into that chain moving towards the Elite model, the person who is holding the desirable quality at the top now, elites are able to generate allegiance and they are able to generate disciples by making whiteness a desirable quality.

Oh, hey. So do you think that there must be black women who are thinking Hold on a second? What's going on here? How can we leave in all those men behind? Yes it is but then you know they're told Shut up snow sister. How dare kid you not support your other sisters unless use Kamala Harris as a as a as a case study. How does how does she make her bones? Strong black, black men in jail. We heard on the last show or a couple shows ago she locked up

innocent black man had no evidence against them. And it goes to show you look, look at me pick me. I can I can I can do it just as good as a white man can do. Or what's perceived missing an axis of a white man? I mean, just saying by the standard of society, right. But but she Okay, first of all, karma is? Yeah, she identifies as Black doesn't quite have the same history as a docile woman. Hmm. So are they just are they just had they just been hypnotized?

Mine. And I told you at the beginning, very first show is ego. It's just so hard to believe. It's horrible. Yeah. It's not really if you we talked about how Black Lives Matter. founders have daddy issues? Yeah, a lot of these women. Kamala Harris has daddy issues as it's playing out in the media. Yeah. So I'm not saying that. They're just, they're just

latching on to this. I mean, dryly they have been the man, they have the same issues because of the same problems, only their issues manifest differently. Exactly. Okay. And what a manifest is, you know what, I can use black bodies to get ahead. To get ahead. They they're doing the exact same thing the founding fathers did when they created America, it wasn't that personal. Don't take out natural resources on his land. And they're saying the

same thing. Well, we have all these black criminals, we might as well put them to good use. Let's let's get with the media running on them and run it on the media. Make black men violent make black men, the source in the vein of all, all the things that troubled us, put them on the sacrificial altar, slay them, and then we can have harmony. Yeah. I hear you, I hear you. Okay. Sorry. Well, we would we stop, they don't, it can only go downhill from here. We striving for whiteness, okay.

For whiteness. Okay. Replacing the model was created as a belief system on the desire of an object embodied by the plantation elites, or by the elites in general. And by model had meant being closer to God, the rival the second group that you are speaks of are the European American masses, who tried to possess this whiteness as an act of mimicry. By desiring what the model desires, what the elites have, because so much as I want it, they have power. To me

wanting it gives them stature. Us Magazine, People Magazine, cultivate the culture of celebrity because it gives the system more power. Same with the Oscars. Same with all that Gerard warns us that the desires of the rival, the second group, where the masses will grow, the desire will grow until there is violence induced by that competition that's there. The nature of the system is that it wants us to desire but it

doesn't want us to go too far. Because if we want to too much, eventually we will try to knock over we will try to kill the model so that we can replace the model. Ooh, there's there's your riots. Yes, there it is. There it is. We're that's the world we're past that phase. Really. That's it Same but that's where we're at. Yeah, that's that's where we're at. And, you know, who do you have out in those groups? You have the feminists you have the you know the Marxists you

have the every other ethnic group. And they're all protesting on what the back of their sacrificial black men Yeah. But they want to replace the model. It's not that we want to create our own and no crater on black community or on whatever fill in the blank community is that we want to be accepted and raised to the level of the model, which is Anglo, you're saying why Anglo Saxon Protestant? Elite? Right. And if sick thing is whiteness? Is there a god? Yeah, well, that Yeah.

I'm kind of speechless. That's what you're hearing is me. Just I just don't know what to say. Yeah, I wasn't saying way. I mean, I had to process Yes, like, because at the end of the day, if you can identify as a woman first, as a gay first, as it transfers Oh, Schnapp that just hit hard. One of the most successful black men in show business is RuPaul. Right, but that's how you I'm a gay black man. What's that

Porter? Porter, he'll tell you that it'll be Porter. Billy Porter, he'll tell you that I'm gonna get I'm a gay but I'll put that first. Gay first black and the man. So we already know this attack on man. But I'm just saying that the stain for the model is that I want to emulate the model. Yes. And to emulate it, I have to show you how well I can do what the model does. How well I could play inside the system. That's why you see the sorrel sisters. I've coined that term to you a long time ago.

Yeah, the reason why I say that is these women want to illustrate to the powers that be I can do the job just as good or even better than a white da. I think I even heard Dvorak use the term source. He I think he said Soro sister, but he, yes, er, I did hear I did hear good work. But that's what they're doing. And then whatever you have to do from there, they have to pick a victim. So the system doesn't want us to go too far. So it needs to find

a way to blow off steam through the process. They don't want to get rid of that intra community violence, but they just want to deflect it before it reaches the doors of the elites. So to deflect the violence that ultimately arises out of the competition, there needs to be a ritual victim, which is the third group. Someone who is marginal within the community, who does not represent a real threat of reprisal, who can't attack the system back. The dangers in this society are

projected onto that victim. Yeah. Now who, what was the guy's name again, Gerard was? Gerard, let's say, historian that he's referring to. I can get you his name after the show. But this the speaker is Reverend I in May. And white Mar. Okay. You have it's amazing. The we had her two men on the call white men in the cloth illustrating the black problem, clearer than the people that are supposed to be speaking for us. Yeah, that happened. Yeah. Well, how does that happen?

It happens by design is how it happens. Yes. I mean, that's the punch line. And I know people are saying, Wow, that sounds crazy. What are you saying? So what I'm saying one of the exoteric you know, politically they're sacrificing black men the image of black men. They say trans men, trans women are the victim or the victim of black men. Black women are the victim of black men. Black children are the victim of black men. Black

men are the that victim of black men. And the only way you can survive in this is if you two aren't six foot eight 260 pound black man like LeBron James and you're running around the street scared for your life. That's the only way you could function is to study. Well, I think you're doing pretty well as a podcaster Yeah, it gets deeper than that. Because you're gonna you're gonna hurt something now, aren't you? This is always the end. Yeah. All right. tarp is ready. Oh,

I have a podcast that features Minister brat aka bad news. He speaks about the witchcraft and gangbanging, I was dating a young lady in my neighborhood and are coming to find out this used to have a grandmother stayed with the grandmother, people in caskets on the wall. And obviously it was all these people in these caskets, they say they just family members, one time a grandmother came home and they started putting a black sheets on the wall over the glass and

over the window. I say what they do and they say we're gonna have a seance that I want to say, I say, No, I don't do seances. But I come to understand why my neighborhood was so cold. As I look back, and I'm physically cold, you feel physically cold. Maybe I use maybe you say I use I feel death. Yes was right. It was a sphere of death in this neighborhood. And now I know why the grandmothers was witches. The Grandmothers was doing seances as I look back into the image, right? Well, I understand

now why the grandmothers say You better go kill the boys. You better go get the grandma Ranbir because grandmother guys, you somebody could kill y'all better go kill y'all better go get them. And what type of witchcraft were they involved in? Well, I say I say I say Jesus grandmother that we wait to walk across three goats run to the store for doing say, go to church went to church. This is this is very disturbing.

And they you wonder why you hear cases of a woman lose three four sons that gun violence, we really had to investigate those cases. There's a there's a spiritual thing going on a spiritual component of this. And I illustrated it way back in show 26 With a growing number of black women leaving the church for witchcraft, witchcraft. Growing numbers of African American women in Maryland and

across the nation are leaving traditional church worship. All of them are in search of something else, a spiritual belief that connects them to their ancestors, and where they can feel more empowered to control their own well being. They have found it in ancient forms of spiritual contact. Some call it witchcraft, a term they accept and embrace. For most of us, this is how we worship a tradition that predates us all.

This to is an ancient art of worshipping not to God the Father, Son and Holy Ghost, but to spirits and deities that span the oceans and deep back to pre slavery days in Africa. Are you in fact witches? Um, whatever the situation calls for. So if you come to me with pleasantries, you being respectful, you'll get Glinda the Good Witch of the suburbs, but if you come at me with negativity, and meanness and disrespect thing, you will get Evaline your worst nightmare?

Oh, yeah, this was episode 26 For anybody who wants to get freaked out all over again. And how and I had an epiphany. Go ahead, go ahead. Go ahead. Give me my epiphany afterwards. So do you remember how old she was the woman speaking at the end? She sounds Oh, these women these women are in their late 20s early? The millennials right? Yeah. And they picked it up when they left the church went off to college and learning these universities yeah

Evany was this Yes. And people that know anything about hip hop will know this. Though same cloth is in basements that these women were doing seances in that Minister Brett refer to are the same causes in basements that their grandchildren record hip hop music you know, it's it's spells spell spell smell Sam,

but those same spirits might be dwelling? Yeah, those same spaces because I know when we used to record you had to had to do the basement or you had to do like, no like a closet or something. Ah, do we do Theramin? Not really. Go ahead. Oh, man needed theremin. What is next? Okay, well, we're winding it up here and people. I like that theory. I like that theory. That's a good one. Okay, what are we? What do we got now? There's only one way to introduce this next guest and

people have been asking about him. And it's his first introduction to the MO FX podcast with Adam curry. Bishop Larry gators. I am a type of a man that's been called by God to fully decapitate the system. of the left. And what I want to talk to you about today, brother Alex and to your listeners all over the world is this topic entitled the coming destruction of Black Lives Matter. Now, the three founders on brother Alex of Black Lives Matter they are witches. Listen, I have no

sympathy for the lead. I am a contract killer. For the Lord Jesus Christ. My responsibility is to cut the hair off of not just antiguo that is the military arm of Black Lives Matter. But Black Lives Matter is the propaganda arm of Antifa. So you have three witches who created this terrorist organization in 2013. Following the death of Trayvon Martin, Alicia Garza, she is a member of Omega Phi Beta Patrisse Cullors. She is a member also of omega fight betta and open to many

she's of Nigerian descent. She is a member of Alpha Kappa Alpha, which means they're all apart by the Alex of the black skulls and bones Wait a minute. Whoa, whoa, whoa, get the tar. Oh my goodness. So that they're putting spells on everybody. You got to explain a work of the biggest whether working through the biggest spell caster is the media or the medium which what do you call witches? And now if it's the witches, witches called mediums, it's

important people understand this. Because when we and we haven't gone off the rails all of a sudden like, oh, well, this is it. It's witchcraft. That's the problem. No, no, it it is truly a form of modern witchcraft. It truly is. Yeah, especially when you fat in no SIBO effect. And you keep saying no, this negative stuff and then it presents itself now as soon as they start talking about black cops shooting black cops shooting black people, more cops

shoot black people. How does that work? Well, Flacco demand is like like on demand coming, coming. from an advertising perspective. That's actually how it works. If you show something over and over again, is going to have an influence depending on how you show it, what music you show it with how your cuts are made, how

your shots are positioned. It's i i have manipulated people's thinking in in not necessarily derogatory way, but have created illusions, illusions, magic, illusions, witchcraft, spells on television, that there's okay, if anyone wants this is a very odd been doing this for maybe 15 years. There's, you can find it on I'm going to put it in the show notes. It's called the Zen TV experiment. Have you ever heard of this? Mo?

No, I haven't. But I'm going to look it up soon as we descend TV experiment, it goes back to I think this one December was 2009. And I don't know if this is even the first time it was it just you should just do some you couldn't do with the television or, or the laptop. But it just gives you a couple of simple things to do. I'll show you. For instance, watch TV for 10

minutes and count the technical events. Technical events are we've all seen TV cameras and banks and jewelry stores a stationary video cameras simply recording what's in front of it

we'll call pure TV. Anything other than that is a technical event, a camera zoom technical event, someone's profile talking suddenly you switch to another person responding technical event A cars driving down the road, you hear music playing technical event, count the number of times as a cut, Zoom superposition voice over parents of words on the screen Fade In and Fade Out. All of those are technical events. They're

magical. They are illusions, call it that call it sorcery. So much of what we're seeing, particularly now with handheld cameras, directs the way the media uses the ad that type of video sources. Narratives are set on eight seconds of video shot from a window. This is all technical and broadcasts sorcery. And one final point I'd like to make is even the release of

information. Like you say it starts with the eight second Yeah, and then it bleeds out that you know the full video and then another angle of the video and then another angle and then the context of the video those kinds of things. So yeah, it's definitely and these women were arm in arm with their sisters in the media. Yes, Oprah Gail, etc. Fill in the blanks. and they create a narrative when you saw in full play with Kobe Bryant, you saw what they did to him and his death. Kobe didn't do that.

Nobody. I mean, when he died, I mean look what I did, and we got to take this we I take them down, and they take them down. It took Snoop Dogg down a notch too, didn't they? Exactly. Okay. Oh, and by the way, some sorcery and witchcraft I also believe is real. So not just technical events on television. I think you can probably conjure a bad energy wherever it's coming from. And I mean, I don't dispute that as well. I mean, I'm just saying

that it for the people that that's the reach for them. Just the control your mind control brainwashing. Don't take my word for it. Take brailles word for it. Right. Tom Burrell? Yep, he's a he's a master wizard. He is he's a Grand Wizard to coin a phrase Grand Wizard at what he does. Moe thank you so much. This is so enjoyable to do the shows and because it's written enriches me as a human every show to me is like I get to catch up with my with my

buddy. I like that so much and I know it comes across on the show and I know so many people get so much value and of course you know our pitch. If you got any value from it, just translate that into numbers add a note let us know how you feel how it affected you try and keep it within the realm of broadcast length because after all, we are creating technical sorcery here for you. And and counter sorcery counter sources, right. It's white magic. Oh, what did I say? Oh my god, see how you get

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