45: 45 Savage

FAQs with Adam curry for August 1 2020. This is episode number 45. Hello Moe, how you doing? I'm doing well. How about still? Yeah, doing real good. I am so proud of us. Here we are Saturday doing another show. It will drop on time. Can you believe it? I can't actually I'm in a groove. I'm in my routine. So I'm a routine person. So here we are. Very good. This is a value for value show, which means you will not be interrupted by corporate messages or any commercials.

Later on. I'll be thanking the actual executive and Associate Executive producers and the rest of the producers who have supported the show, and you're along for the ride no matter what way you're looking at it. It's value for value, we hope to bring you some and well, can we get straight into the topic or what else we got to do? I have nothing to do but you do. Here we go. Roll it up. For number 45 More facts with Adam curry. Let's find out what the topic is. This is the big we'll

have topics where it stops? Nobody knows. Of course no does. Mo knows. And the topic for episode 45 will be 45 Savage is the actual term. 45 Savage, which I learned on the last show that this is. This is now the Official Mo facts name for the 45th. President. Yes, Mr. Donald J. Trump. It's only appropriate that we talk about him one year later. If people are not in the know. Yes, we, you know, I forgot to say although I did text you yesterday. Yeah. And the 31st. You know, Happy first

anniversary. That's, you know, what an achievement we've done quite well. I think we did pretty good. And it's these numbers now. 45 lines out one in one year. That is and and it brings us back around? Because I don't think if it was for 45 Savage, this show might not exist. The Impossible. 45 Savage definitely made some things discussable. That's for sure. And by the way, after the after the last show. I did register 45 savage.com. Did you see that? No, I didn't know that. Well, that's

if you type in 45 savage.com. You go right to mo facts. Nice. Yeah. So I can maybe you're redirected to this episode. Depending I guess we're going to talk about 45. What are we going to do? How we're going to start with where we picked off lat picked up last episode with 44. And then we'll see the beef between 44 and 45. Okay, I'm loving it. Alright, let's jump into number two there. Roger Stone was a longtime political adviser to Trump. He has since been convicted of lying to Congress.

Trump understands among Republicans, there's a very substantial majority, you will have questions about Obama's origins and how he just pops up out of nowhere to become a national figure and whether he was in fact eligible to serve as president. We thought that Trump needed an issue that resonates with people. Diverse certificate meant a lot of different things to a lot of different people. Overall, it talks about how Obama was different. He was a different

kind of person. He was a Manchurian type candidate. Ah, now we're getting into the really good stuff. Yes, the true origins of the birtherism conspiracy. I like it. Yeah, and I want to say this. This was could this could be perceived as probably the most racist thing Donald Trump has done or could do, what we're going to talk about in the

motive in this show. And if it was really expected to be racist, or we're gonna see what the reasoning behind this but I want to say as a so called black person, this was probably the you know, just the perception of it that somebody wins. And they you shot to disqualify him. Right? The narrative behind that is what really landed wrong, and proudly makes a lot of so called Black people will not like Donald Trump to this day, because they've been told that this was a Trump invention. And

obviously, he went after it. That's for sure. That was that was his main deal. And we both know, and I'm sure a lot of our producers know that this was a democratic invention. But yes, as Roger Stone said in the clip, he's the one that brought it to the you know, the mainstream media and you know, became In the face of the birther movement, but I just want to set set up. This is where the real beef started between Obama and Trump. No,

this was this. This was the this is the whole thing between them and you're saying, you know, on a ball of wax, so it is the bulk of wax. Definitely. Yeah. That's why I didn't cover it last show. Because this is transition of power. You got these two forces pulling in opposite directions. On one side, you have a we laid out Marxist forces pulling on a 44 and a you have ultra conservative. I'm not Trump himself. I don't see him being ultra conservative, but it's he's been enlisted. Oh, yeah.

Why a very people. To conservative group of people. Absolutely. Yeah. Right. Um, so we have to investigate this transition for 44 to 45. So I think this is a good point. So I guess we can get in 1.2. They released the first one is the Trump was thinking of running against Obama. Doesn't matter. Anytime I have doubts. Please welcome my friend. He made Himself the face of the birther movement.

Why does he show his birth certificate? I think he's probably because I have to what everybody else says to what the show gives me? No, excuse me. I really believe there's a birth certificate. Why looks you smiling? Why doesn't he show his birth certificate? Why would President asked to be shown the birth certificate? You're not allowed to be a president. You're not born in this country. He may not have been born in

this country. And that was the racist manifestation of resistance to the President Donald Trump was at the forefront of it. I think it it rankled President Obama because the birther stuff was just a pure racism slash xenophobia. And it was based in nothing. More than 40% of the population still question whether he's actually an American or not. Obama had already released his birth certificate during the presidential campaign. But the issue wouldn't go away.

Obama was furious wasn't Trump. It was the media. If Trump couldn't get booked on all those shows, he just be some another whack job. You know, tweeting about conspiracy theories and maybe getting booked on Fox. He's Donald Trump is a creation of the American political news media. Let me ask you a question. Mo. Yes. When this came up, and I'm sure you were aware of it, I'm sure I'm sure it in 2012. You

were you were hearing about Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Was there any feeling of irony that, okay, here's a guy going after a legal matter, which is deemed to be racist. I don't think he ever said, Hey, this black man can't be It can't be a true American. But at the same time, even by the data that we were given, he's not aid us. Was there that feeling of irony at that time? For me For Yes, but you have to rewind and look at it through the lens. So people really didn't look at Barack Obama as

not being aid us. Right. I mean, that he was kind of, you know, grafted in. And we talked about that on the last show, right? That can say the real problem is you had a it's like a boxing match. Right? Yeah. You got one guy? guy, huh. And then it's like, oh, he's, you know, you know, there's talk of using performance enhancing drugs or was the dirty. cheated. That's what, right. That's what really rubbed black people the wrong

way, because you tried to disqualify Obama. And that's why I said this is Mr. Na, started to even discuss this, but it's plays an important part. And what we're going to discuss later of this, for lack of better word match, this was set up by the media. You heard. Exactly. I will say this. Trump wasn't no parts of Obama in 2012. He No, he couldn't be Obama. He could say that. Oh, yeah. I was thinking about running or, you know, he knew he couldn't be Obama and he was smart enough not to,

not to pursue it. To set himself Yeah, obviously. Yep. He was setting himself up because he knew Hillary was next. He knew she was a weak candidate. So it was like a proxy war, right. I'm gonna have war on Obama, to set up for 2016. Yes. And this was, to me, it's always been a very intentional move. So absolutely. Yeah. And it's one of the things Donald Trump is always great at that. He'll pick out a topic to talk about. That way he can come

back and slam you later. And we see this with Kaylee right? I mean, They pick out the certain these certain topics we get to the mainstream. It's like, but what about this, and they'll point to some evidence. But this one, so to reach the audience, just to be clear, the searching for the birth certificate was only deemed racist because of the color of Obama's skin. Right? And that's to me is what's so interesting. He never said, I

gotta check this guy, because the color of his skin. He had a weird story, which was the problem, but it was immediately by the media countered his racist. And I think race sales. I mean, I mean, I mean, they the media saw as we can pit, a white man against a black man, they're very powerful. And it'll be great for ratings. That's why they gave Trump all the air. I wasn't just Fox News. No, no, I was everybody, everybody.

Everybody was in on it, because they were like, This is a sensational story to cover, just for sheer ratings. And just just as and as a little bit of backstory, maybe we'll come back to that. But the actual rumor that started with the Democrats was started by a Hillary Clinton's campaign managers at the time they started it. I'm sorry, goggles, or is it okay for me to No, no, no, no, no. It's perfectly okay for you to say that, because that is the

truth. But it's one thing about doing the work. You got to realize certain conversations are not even worth having. Right? Exactly. Saying that is not worth it. But it's good information for people to have not as good information for you to have. But it's if you're trying to work past something that's not it's like you're no one is not even worse, not because you're you're not going to take Obama out of office. They're not me. Nobody's gonna

walk into the White House. Like you don't belong here because of the diversity of the gate. So it was a nice startup, but I will say this, it was used by both sides and you're going to hear in the next two clips for their purpose. War with Trump. He was setting up for 2016. And we and Obama. Well, let's just as in the 3.1, to see how Obama used it. Obama reluctantly released more proof from his citizenship. Now, as many of you have been briefed, we provided additional

information today about the site of my birth. This thing just kept on going. Yes, in fact, I was born in Hawaii, August 4 1961. In Killarney hospital, we've posted the certification that is given by the state of Hawaii, three days later, it was time for payback.

The President uses the White House Correspondents Dinner that year with Donald Trump in the room to completely ridicule Donald Trump in front of this audience that you know that journalists and lobbyists and government officials and, and people who at that time Trump wanted to have the respect of everybody, please have a seat. Donald Trump is here tonight. No one is happier. No one is prouder to put this birth

certificate matter to rest than the Donald. And that's because he can finally get back to focusing on the issues that matter. Why did we fake the moon landing the fact that that was done at the Washington Correspondents Dinner was dynamite because the footage belonged to everybody. And everybody was in the room. It was it was and it was Obama obliterated him. He did and it was set up perfectly because here's Trump

under a spotlight. It seemed like it was coming down on him and Obama was behind, you know, on his own stage behind the mic, and he's just grilling Trump. And then you see this look on Trump's face like, I've never been taught to before like this. And not can't lash out. Right. And by the way, you fill in the blank, like, here's the Thought Bubble. Some people saw. I've never been talked to like that, especially not by a black man. I mean, you can see people

of course, that was the beauty. That was the extent of what how people spun it. And that may be even be his case, but I don't I don't think Donald Trump will let anybody that's why they made the race distinction. I don't think Donald Trump would let anybody talk to him like that because it just his personality makeup which we're going to look into deeper in As we did with Barack Obama on 44 Yeah. But what we have to do is we have to

look at this. Now, this is just my conspiracy theory. I think this whole birther thing was a limited hangout for somebody to latch on to, to be at the Republicans and then be may look like fools. Because if we say what we laid out in the last show, Barack Obama coming from the intelligence apparatus, or being a product of George Poppy Bush, he could have had a perfectly legit birth certificate if they want him to

have one. Where they go out, first of all, first of all, they fill out this short I never heard of a short, short, short birth certificate. Yeah, that was kind of I don't even know what that is. And it was kind of it was kind of insulting really, it wasn't really any proof of anything. Right. But then you you lay that out there as like bait for people to look into. Yeah, I like this concept. So what if it since it originated in the Hillary campaign, that's that was the limited Hangout,

and that would probably could have been bait. Maybe she was also thinking ahead to 2016 Hey, no, no, maybe she maybe they expect her to take the bait, but she didn't because she's snappy with the intelligence agency. Let me just let me just complete my tea. You know what, they know how it will land like, right? She's like, I've been around black people long enough. To know this. This is not going to work out a good idea, right? But Trump coming along, he needs to

make a splash. So it's like, Okay, I'll take the heat. He maybe he believed it. I mean, I'm not saying he didn't believe it. But if even if he didn't believe it, it's like this allow me to make a splash with the with, with stitcher Wentz that I want to make a splash with and the media being complicit, they'll help me. Right, but I don't think he planned for what he got on that night. What Obama that was that was and they had that profile shot of him. And it was

just, it was a beautiful shot. You could just see his hair kind of melting a little flyer. flyer, you're right, it wasn't fire. That was beautiful. I don't think Obama realized what the consequences was going to be for poking. No poking the bear a billion dollar bear. Right? Because billionaires have a sense of some I'm not gonna say all but because, but they have a sense of our crush my competition. Yes. And certainly. And let's just let we stop at

3.1. Let's go on to three. Let's go into 3.2 display concept. You Mr. Trump recognized that the real problem was a lack of leadership. And so ultimately, you didn't blame Little John or meatloaf. These are the kinds of decisions that would keep me up at night. Well handled, well handled, but it just kept going and going and he just kept hammering him. And I thought, oh, Barack Obama is starting something. I don't know if he'll be able to finish.

Say what you will about. Mr. Trump, he certainly wouldn't bring some change to the White House. See what we got up there. I think that is the night that he resolves to run for president. I think that he is kind of motivated by maybe I'll just run maybe I'll show them all. Every critic, every detractor will have to bow down to President Trump. It's everyone who's ever doubted Donald. Whoever disagreed.

Whoever challenged him. It is the ultimate revenge to become the most powerful man in the universe. Yeah, a big Fu. You huge? Yeah. Okay. And I think that you now we have to start looking at Trump is a very sensitive person, and not in the nice term, but he's highly anything you say to him. He has to fire back 10 times harder. And I think this lit the fire under him to really, I think he was always going to run it 2016 Maybe he ran and, you

know, got a few percentage points. But when he had he what he thinks he's so called peers laughing at him. And his detractors laughing at him in a room and you have this guy here. Just beaten the hell out of you with that we were saying with the microphone. I think this is is what really made him take the 2016 campaign serious.

And at this point in his, in his own personal career, he had quite a lot of audience understanding under his belt with with the TV show The Apprentice Yeah, I mean, he really he really understood how audiences respond and how it works with the marketing of the show. And he understands he understood television very, very well. And it's one brand of television that he understood very well, that's just a little teaser, where we're going in the show.

But before we get there, we had to look at the personality of Donald Trump and ask the question, Is he a narcissist, Donald Trump's narrative, and he's a self made Superman, who's smarter and better educated everybody else. But a new book from his own nice suggests with everyone but his base has already figured out he's a fraud. I have no problem calling Donald a narcissist. He meets all nine criteria, as outlined in the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental

Disorders. But the label gets us only so far. Mary Trump also portrays her uncle as a traumatized rich kid with daddy issues. calling him a clinical narcissist. His personality served his father's purpose. That's what sociopaths do. They co opt others and use them toward their own ends, ruthlessly and efficiently with no tolerance or dissent for for dissent, or resistance, by limiting Donald's access to his

own feelings, and rendering many of them unacceptable. Fred perverted his son's perception of the world and damaged his ability to live in it. And it's always so nice to see television hosts doing psychological analysis with the DSM four manual next to them. If they, if they can do it, we can do it. Oh, yes, we can. Okay, let's, let's, I want to say this. I think this is the RIP. I'm gonna say this

before we get into the nine signs of narcissism. I think this is the ISTE that's the ISP that we really should be paying attention to. Not the other as the that's labeled this Trump hit label with the artist versus the end of the narcissist. Yes, which you can't spell racist. I mean, can't spell narcissist without racist?

Oh, like that. Very. Okay. Yeah. Well, I think that trumps because if no pun intended there, but I think it Trump's the racism because we'll start to look at if you're self serving, you will step on anybody to get what you want. Yes. And I think that's what's misconstrued about Mr. Donald J. Trump. And as you said, in that, um, one more thing before we get into the little game we're gonna

play a day said Trump had daddy issues. So this is one of those things where I am what you say you are, yes, project, total projection. Because it's the thought is that feminist and people that don't like the patriarchy have daddy issues. So now they flip this thing right back around and saying Trump is a very fragile

person because of weight the way his dad brought him up. So now we have daddy issues being we talked about daddy issues last show, with the dad not being there right now we have the domineering father, the abusive. And I want people to understand this is why we talk about the patriarchy and why a healthy father child relationship is so important, because it is non existent or abusive or toxic. Yeah. And this is not some discovery we've made by the way.

No, no, it's not. It's just that we just reinforced that with the characters that that play out in our everyday lives in the media. Yeah. So with that said, Would you like to play a size of a narcissist? Yes. Okay. So I guess how this works is we listen to a clue, then we decide if it's correct or not. Is that the idea? Yes, we got on the nine signs that I'm Miss Reed alluded to in the DSM. All right, and if it's true or not true, or

All right, all right, here we go. Running it down. We start with sign number one, the signature characteristics of many personality disorders can be quite unpleasant, such as the case of narcissistic personality disorder. Interacting with an MPD sufferer can be confusing, frustrating, and even hurtful. The NPD individual will often overlook or ignore many of these traits that make them unlikable.

A cure nine signs which may be a result of narcissism. One, instead of listening, they're wrapped up in their own opinion. Instead of listening, they're wrapped up in their own opinion. What do you think? Well, I've seen, I've seen the President in when he does, like a listening session with people and he'll bring in either companies or, or a dividuals. Whenever I see him in a in a big now it's usually when he's either about to now announce something or wants to announce something. And he does

seem to listen. But that's only in those cases. So um, I don't know, I'm, I'm, do you have a what do you think? I think you're exactly right. It depends on his setting. And we noticed this with Trump, and depending on his audience, we get a different reaction. So I would say that it's true. But not there's some leeway there. Okay, so in his audience, so we get a and we get, it's all wrong. A little bit all wrong. Yes. Okay. All right. All right.

You know what, I'll let you control the signs and we'll just keep rolling. Okay, all right. Here we go. Number two, two, they tend to cheat in relationships. narcissists, feel their treasures that are too good for anyone bring this attitude into a relationship, and you have lightning waiting to strike. Cheating is often a way for narcissists to build their ego. That's wrong. I think that, that in general, I think he's very loyal to people.

Yes, he's had multiple marriages, but that doesn't necessarily mean that he's a serial cheater. So I think we're I think we see Trump through two different prisms. Are we looking at two different people? Well, yes, obviously. This all depends on where you see him. But yeah, of course, if at face value. Yes, he's cheated on. Always cheated on at least one wife that we know of? What we don't know why when I say relationships, I'm not talking about just romantic

relationships. Right. But what about business relationships? You know, you hear the stories about him and contractors. Sue me. So I think that's very true. Yes, you're right. I'm gonna give you I'm gonna give you I'm gonna give you That's true for that one. Okay. All right. Yeah, I'm in. Let's go. All right, let's go to number three,

three, they constantly need to be admired. If you've seen a narcissist, maybe you've seen that the almost swagger oozing conceit and arrogance with every breath, they may look like they possess tremendous confidence. But it's not enough. They need constant admiration. The delusion of always being entitled to admiration is why people around them often find themselves emotionally drained to them. There's no greater rush than being put on a pedestal and worshipped by their fans and followers.

It's true. That's true. That's a triple true. No argument on that one triple true, triple true. I think we I think we agree on that. Well, I would say one thing though, they said that they're, the people around them become emotionally drained. I think that's what the fact they call it the Trump derangement syndrome. That people become just so drained by his personality that it has a negative effect on them. Yeah, I

think. I think that's the number one bad trait he has even people who like him or or are interested in hearing his policy. get really tired of of his personality. Yeah. Some pick some people. No, I think I think some people like the fact is he he's a troll. Yes. But I think that's a smaller number than people who are just like, Okay, I don't want to listen to it. Okay, I'm Michael Moore. I want to talk talk a lot between these

clips. But Michael Morris said one thing he said he predicted Trump will win, because he said the regular man would see Trump as a big fu to the establishment for sure. For sure. So that's that's, that's why I'm coming out with my own. Okay, my angle so continue on, for they do not take any criticism. Well. Have you ever commented on something someone said and they lashed out at you? Maybe the

reaction was more hostile than expected. They think they're superior to others around them and believe themselves to be infallible. They react poorly, maybe yelling, throwing a tantrum, or with another on reasonable response when they perceive what you've said might be criticism. Oh, yeah. Yeah, no, I got that one. Okay. Not looking too good. He's pretty, pretty and NPD is let's go to five, five. They exploit others without guilt or shame. narcissism and

empathy. Don't go hand in hand. narcissists are unwilling to see the world from the perspective of others. As a result, they're able to exploit others without any feeling of remorse. They can manipulate people to fulfill their own needs, without regard for the consequences that their actions may have on others. definitely true. definitely true. So you'd like to add you want to continue on? No, we can we can go to six, six, they belittle others. The narcissist thinks they're the

best and brightest. So sing proof that dictates otherwise, like someone who is more talented than they are at a particular activity is a rude shock. The response is to make sure that the person is below them, where the narcissist feels most others belong. They tried to be dismissive about the other person to show that they don't really even care about them. And if that doesn't work, they resort to personal attacks. That's true. Think that's birtherism? Right?

Yeah, pretty much, pretty much. Okay, on to seven, seven. Yes, they see themselves as more attractive than they really are. Despite the fact that everyone should feel attractive. There's a fine line between a healthy self image and being delusional this line is often crossed by narcissists who believe that they're exceptionally attractive regardless of having any imperfections the narcissist uses this perceived superior attractiveness to justify to themselves why they're too good for everyone.

Oh man is not looking good for 45 Savage right now. Let's go to number eight. They gaslight those who are dear to them ever noticed feeling that you can't remember anything correctly around a specific person? When you're with that person? Do you feel a little like you've lost your mind? That's due to gaslighting, a tactic narcissists use in order to manipulate and gain power and control over those around them. gaslighting is frightening, because it's insidious. The manipulation is

lengthy and gradual. So the victim doesn't notice it happening. Let's ask the ladies. That's true. Yeah, they know exactly what's going on. All right, well, number nine, then it's the last on the list nine. They put some people on pedestals. It's true. Our last sign seems oddly contradictory to the other signs, but it is very logical. And here's why. narcissists believe that they have to have perfection in everything, including people

they associate with. a narcissist will often cozy up to someone higher in status, believing that their perfection will somewhat rub onto them, man, okay. What did we get? We got I think we got seven. We got one split vote and pretty much pretty much all true. Okay. G sounds like he's a narcissist, MO. And I'm a I'm not a doctor, you're not a doctor, but maybe miss Maureen bow. Dowd could chime in on this since she's I can speak on the classical clinical narcissist.

Is that a weakness of that a lot of politicians have that they like the people who liked them and just like the people who just liked them, yes, Trump is just a very extreme version of other narcissistic, Paul's or, you know, he is, you know, he's a classic clinical narcissist. So he's missing empathy. He's, he has no ability to take a punch. You know, if anyone criticizes him, he can't let it go. He's like a dog with a bone like with

Miss Universe or earlier with Megyn Kelly. So he's just a much more extreme version of the typical garden variety form of narcissism. narcissism, you see in DC with politicians all the time. Yeah. Okay. But I think that he that's how he won in business. I'm quite sure of it. Yeah, it's, he's a creation of himself. And we're talking about that a little later. But actually Standing here. All

politicians are most politicians are narcissists. Sure. And we've seen some of the biggest resistance, for lack of a better word that we've seen for Donald Trump has been the media personalities with the biggest personalities. Don Lemon, say, the White House, yes. Hey, everybody. So they're they're rubbed the wrong way by his narcissism, but it only exposes their narcissism. There's narcissistic behavior as well. So it's it's a beautiful mechanism, a strange phenomenon

that he exposes them by being who he truly is. But he's only truly himself half the time. Right. Exactly. So Andrew Cyril and asked, I think it's a cash thing. Yeah, they have a podcast together. And they discussed is Donald Trump a racist, off the gut. There's no facts to back this up whatsoever. But I think this is what Trump is when it comes to race. I think Trump is and maybe purposefully so ignorant to the minority experience in America. And because he is, he doesn't have

the same level of empathy or compassion. That someone who has watched maybe their black friend get harassed by the cops or these types of things. So his mind, he's like, No, I just treat everybody equal. Like remember back in the day when I was partying with all the rappers and everybody thought I was cool. Yeah, just treating them like regular guys. And I think the rappers and stuff back in the day, we're all like, yeah, he's just some rich dude, we just treat you regular. You

don't even fucking care. I think they were kind of seduced by that. But they never had conversation with Trump about like, empowerment in these neighborhoods, and that kind of stuff like that. So he I don't know if he's hateful of minorities. I do not think that he's empathetic. Interesting. One of the signs. Yeah. Yeah. lack of empathy. Yeah. No empathy. I think Andrew is speaking to more of your being a narcissist as well, that he's just oblivious to other people's

feelings. Yeah, it's just my way of the highway. Pretty much we just understand, take a little time. And this is where I talk about sometimes Michelle, The Seven Habits of Highly Effective People. Yes. And one of those is seek first to understand then to be understood. And this is why Donald Trump became a fascinating character to me, because I sought to understand where he's coming from. And it's dependent upon who he's talking to, hey, he'll change his facts. He's not tied to ideology,

right? It's all about what's best for pushing forward, whatever, whenever he wants to behave. Yes, whatever he wants to achieve. And I think, as you pointed out prior, that that did make him a successful businessman, because he's not tied to one method of business. It's a does this work? No, okay, let's go get some more experts. And that's where you see him constantly. cashing out people, even in his cabinet. It's like, Oh, these are the smartest people when he brings them in,

and I'll never dump them out. And they just like, bring some more smart people in six months later. They're dumb. Yeah. And it's just this constant. With very evolution very much like the apprentice actually. Yeah. And I think that's the business model that he accepted. And I think that just feeds out of you can answer this question for me. He's brought his sister's a judge. Right. And his brother I think drank yourself. You're saying into his own

demise? Yeah. Did you have any other any other siblings? I think he has. I think he has another brother. And then after that, he's highly successful as well. I believe so. Yeah. So I think Trump became successful, but in a way, in a way he knew how. And that's, you know, that's the being Donald Trump. He's like, I'm gonna be the best at being Donald Trump. And that's gonna carry me all the way. Um, so I got a second clip from the same podcast, and they talk about the brand of Donald Trump.

I actually think he's a marketing genius. But take that in and like, let's address that. What do you guys think about I don't I don't think I think maybe, but he also doesn't care. I think he is doesn't care is lack of empathy. No, but like, I think yeah, he's just looking at it as the main thing to me is like, I know how to win. I know How to market myself as a winner move when, like talk about the man like not about winning the election like

truly like, like, remember it really? The light bulb went off for me when he said to black people use like, what do you got to lose? Just come to like that was his pitch to black people. It's pitch black. He was like, we're gonna help you we're gonna figure out why understand what you go through. I understand the tough things about this systemic racism, the view the experiences created these environment. Literally the thing was just try it.

He had he grew up with three siblings. Okay, three, no three, three elder siblings Maryanne Fred Jr, Elizabeth and one younger brother Robert. And so Fred juniors? He's no longer there. But Robert is. But yes, and I'm sure that put a lot of pressure on him. Fred Jr. The way he turned out. And I think that's where he wanted to please his father. So I mean, is some sure it makes sense of validity there. How because we have to talk about the know how the raising of

these people shaped who they are. And Donald Trump figured out I can be the best at being me. And that's all I need to do. And it'll give me a long way through life. And it certainly has, definitely has it, but it rubs people the wrong way. Because you got to look at who his peers are now in the circles he's in. They're very highly educated. They, you know, cross the t's

and dot every eye. And it's like how this guy get to the same place or a lot of these politicians and news reporters had dreams of being President. Yeah, kind of got derailed along the way, but then that rubs him even more like this. How did he do? How does that work? I bet he's not even a billionaire. Let's go prove it. Yep. So I think we're gonna, we're gonna get back to those comments that he made to those so called black community, but

we need to lay out some things first. And first of all, we need to figure out how Donald Trump credit Donald Trump before he was a presidential candidate. And I've been saying for years, keep the oil, keep the oil, don't let him have the oil. Before he was a reality TV star. You're fired. Donald Trump was a New York tabloid fixture. All through the 1980s Trump was busy

building something new. And it wasn't a skyscraper millionaire developer Donald Trump has put his name on a New York City Hotel shopping center and apartment buildings, as well as the casino in Atlantic City. And now he's going to put his name on a big piece of Eastern Airlines. Trump was creating a public persona, one that could be both funny and demeaning, arrogant, and somehow in touch with the common man.

I sort of love and hate him at the same time. I mean, I think he has, you know, a monumental ego. He comes off as being very what's the word I'm looking for? Arrogant? Yeah. He's arrogant. Like, me got everything. He often did this by picking fights. You said I think Donald Trump is an artful liar. I think he is a greedy, vicious and arrogant man. Well, I don't know. Is that supposed to be a compliment or not? I'm not sure. He waged a years long battle with New York City Mayor Ed Koch.

I hope that New York City has a different mayor at some point because I think it catches a total disaster. A bad man for the city. He helped launch a competitor to the NFL called the US Football League, and then launched a lawsuit against the NFL when the USFL failed. The jury in the case delivered its verdict. It ruled the NFL did indeed monopolize pro football, but it awarded damages of just $1 Oh, yeah. So there's your there's your NFL beef.

And it's ongoing. And it's like, okay, if you notice, you know, Father, Son of a bitch, you know, that kind of now he's like, now that the NFL has because NFL wasn't taking action against Colin Kaepernick. And now he came back was like, oh, you know, I think Colin Kaepernick deserves another chance. It's like whatever to call chaos. Gaslight. That's fantastic. Yeah,

exactly. So we're saying he's not taught to anything, that and if you understand that about him, and you understand him greater, and I guess for everybody, and everyone has a little bit of narcissism in them. It kind of shows it makes you feel like, oh my god, that's so ugly. You know, but in your subconscious, like, gosh, I'm kind of like that, you know, you're projecting your own ugliness when you recognize it almost is and, and the Democrat. I mean, excuse me and the demographics that

hate him the most. The young millennials are the most narcissists. Everything they do in vain. Like look at me, look at me like my Post who? Yeah, yeah, look at me, look at me, you know, do this look, you know, that's life never Yeah, living my best life ever. Right? Well, then they have to stay for him when they it's this weird. Always said the best thing that ever happened with Donald Trump getting elected because he kind of pulled back the veil on everything. Now we

have to all the behaviors that he does that we all still do. It points out people as hypocrites, right? And one of the things I don't want to do, that's why I don't have a seated hatred for Donald Trump, when I don't have that for any person, but if I hold him accountable for something, then I have to hold myself accountable for it. But I think a lot of people don't do that. And that's why they can easily hate Trump for themselves. Mo Are you secretly a psychologist? Do you have a

degree do you have? Do you have a medical license? I think you've been a mom that has, that's a therapy. So that'll do it. As you screw up per kid, well, good job, Mom. Let's see. So we stopped off with foreshadow foreshadowed, though there was one industry that had a huge impact on Donald Trump. Everybody was saying, oh, was Facebook, it was the

Russians. It was this. It was that why he won the election, the data collection that he did know that Donald Trump had one tactic and that was to basically turn the presidential race of 2016 into a wrestling match. Before he was president, Donald Trump was once part of a world that celebrated body slams obnoxious, Hans, I'm taller than you. better looking than you. In spandex costumes, called Wrestlemania. And during the 2000s, Trump found themselves center stage, playing a

character named, of course, Donald Trump. In 2007, he appeared in a series of pro wrestling events playing a rival to Vince McMahon, who was chairman of World Wrestling Entertainment, also known as the WWE. WrestleMania fights are scripted, and the climax of their so called rivalry is an episode where Trump shape McMahon's head. Trump also hosted WrestleMania events at Trump Plaza in Atlantic City in the 80s. Recently, he picked McMahon's wife, Linda, to lead

the Small Business Administration. Oh, right now, he's making the President's wrestling ring. On Sunday. He tweeted a doctored clip from his 2007 bout showing him wrestling with CMS. Man, CNN condemned the tweet saying it is a sad day when the President of the United States encourages violence against reporters. It's so clear now when you think of it in these terms, this is great. This is very exciting. Oh, I have a new look on on the

situation. Although very familiar things. It all feels familiar. His whole approach was a wrestling approach the cities that he stopped that the arenas that he used man gave him the whole blueprint of life here because in wrestling, here's your here's your stage on song. You know, when you come out to here's the one you leave to, here's the shit you do. Gao when he comes out. He gets your signature, your signature phrase your signature thumbs. Oh, yeah. Incredible. And I

think he took this blueprint of how do I reach everyday man? Oh, well, everyday man and the places that he wants to reach like pro wrestling. So what did he give him? A pro wrestler show not knock the hell out of them. I'll pay for I mean, like that was like that was can you smell what the rock is cooking kind of thing? Or? The Austin? Yeah, it has everything except the most raucous. I mean, that's what the word is attached to these rallies is raucous because it gets the people going. But you

ever watched wrestling? It's very visceral. It's raucous. But yet it's completely safe for a family outing. Like a WWE match. Exactly. It's like you can bring you can bring, bring the wife, you can bring everybody you can all hang out. Y'all can yell, y'all can yell and cuss. Wherever you want to move. We hate you. And he gives them that you have everything except for the match. Right? Because it's like it's called the promo. He's in his rallies is the is actually a term in

wrestling. And I identified this because growing up, I'm gonna say this about a little inside baseball. There's a high percentage of black people that enjoy wrestler wrestling, and I'm especially older people. One of my good friends, his grandma would order every WrestleMania I don't care what she had to do. She was gonna get WrestleMania and And he tapped into that. That vein,

that demographic? Yeah. Oh, the demographic if you know he stops is the same starts where WWE will stop using this same exact the same format, the same format the same venue and the venue places. Oh my goodness. I did not know this. This is great. We already figured out his strategies plan. Yeah, and we were even more exposed to a little bit more but let's get into the second wrestling clip.

Producers and others who worked in and follow pro wrestling told The Associated Press that Trump's blunt communication style is similar to his win at all costs wrestling character. Your grapefruits are no match for my Trump Towers. Like pro wrestlers, he uses catchphrases, and attaches insults to rivals names. Hillary Clinton campaign.

They see echoes of pro wrestling and Trump's appearances to his backlit slow walk at the Republican Convention and his tiger like pacing on stage behind Hillary Clinton during a presidential debate by copays. One former event producers said Trump employed a classic tactic in a news conference when he ordered CNN reporter Jim Acosta to be quiet. Taking a page from what many think of as the fake sport of pro wrestling is gonna give Trump lashed out,

they kind of you are fake news, sir, go ahead. And you stay categorically that nobody you know, and so many so many times, we've talked about already I know I've talked about that. Trump is like a WWE

wrestling match. But when you really lay it all out, and you break down the elements of pro wrestling, I mean, we can almost predict every single thing that's going to happen next now, not necessarily the outcome, he doesn't control all the all of the script, but man, he knows, he knows what the audience wants, as long as he can create that one next media event to carry them through to the to the one after that. He plays everybody like a fiddle.

And not only not only wrestling, but he grew up he was very close with boxing as well. And Boston has the same aspect of you, you have only have one fight, right Fight Night, but you have to build up over a matter of three months, six months. That way you get people engaged and want to say I'm gonna spend this $75 and pay per view. So this is, this is what I witnessed, and it really clicked with me. I noticed it, but it really clicked with me when he came to Leesburg right before the 2016

election. And the people staying it till two o'clock in the morning for him to show up because he was running late. And it's like, wow, like, this is amazing that he would like these people are really they really want their show. There. Therefore the show is not about politics or policy or none of that crap. It's about we got our guy that talks to biggest crap. And you know, he's the biggest baddest crap talker. And I'm

gonna say this, and I might get killed for it. But I honestly believe one of the things so called Black people have a problem with is Obama wasn't that for us. That He wouldn't, you know, just go to the mat, for lack of a better term, but, you know, just like lay it out there. Um, for my people, you know, screw y'all that kind of thing, right? And we see followed up behind him. It's like, wow, why don't why don't

we have that? Why didn't he? Why didn't he ride for us the way that Trump rides for his base? Could you give an example of how he would ride? I mean, what what would the the TV show equivalent of Obama's format be? What could he okay? This is unique. So, say for instance, I mean, just being vocal for your base. That's the thing like with Trayvon Martin, these are the things he was kind of like, well, we'll have to wait and see, you know, that kind of thing. Like Trump, he's out.

He's out there. Oh, we gotta get to the bottom of it, you know, very fine people. That kind of thing. It's the bulkiness of it. It's not, it's not even Yeah, we didn't know you could play that way. It's like, we didn't know you could play President bottles rules. We got screwed for eight years. I mean, just out of the, you know, the, you know, just having somebody to know like, Where was before where was the black version of this guy? Is what you think, right? I got you.

Because we were always telling you, we got you out to build a coalition. You got to help the greater coalition this guy like on for my 40% and whatever they will make my 40% gets Yeah, so that kind of thing is like we missed out on that. I think that's I think that's a real sentiment and with Obama. So yeah, with Obama. Now, here's this is Triple H. And he makes a statement that Trump may think that wrestling is real. In

Washington, yeah, sure. How worried were you when you thought Vince McMahon was dead if I hadn't seen them pre taping we got in and we saw that what kills me is so many people call I mean the obvious next day like people I'm not kidding you like and it seems like Trump dolls and lovers like something happened to not understand the

magic of television. We gotta get out of your triple A's All right, so this is something I wasn't aware of what happened with this this man had this they had a you know, like gag for lack of better word, but where his limousine blew up. Obviously Trump called triple he was like, It's okay. And he didn't know this. He wasn't in on that day. I don't believe so. He wasn't No, he wasn't in on it. But it's just that. What do you want to find out? A lot of people think

wrestling is real. And you get a lot of put uncle that man you he would kick you out his house. If you say wrestling was fake. So I mean, it's a real touchy thing. So I'm just laying out the pathology of the of a typical wrestling fan that they buy. It's even Trump being a wrestler wrestling fan himself, he buy into into the scam. Oh, my goodness. x now we had to get into the nuts and bolts of hollow wrestling production gets down. Good and love this. So this is

from pro wrestling 101. And this is getting heel heat. Today I want to talk about getting heel heat. And what I mean by that is, you know more more than just being heel is being hated. Too many times. Nowadays, I think fans and wrestlers want to be a heel. But they want to be liked. They want to be cheered. They want to be cool. And nowadays, I think so many guys don't know what it really means to get heel heat.

You know, it's just it just means to me at least being the worst possible guy the worst possible competitor, you could be out there. I mean, it's more than you know, guy that you say be a heel, Indy guys. And even on the big stage. Even in WWE, I find that and even especially in TNA for guys go out there and they just cut a promo, and they knock everybody down and they yell and they scream. And you know, they do the stereotypical

bad guy he'll thing. But it's so much more than that. If you look at the classics, the real guys that stand out, they cheated to win. They were ruthless to win. They, you know, they were whatever the babyface was, they were the complete opposite of what he stood for. And it meant going forward in there. I mean, it I mean, it's about kicking somebody when they're down. It's about doing anything cerebral cerebral, you know, that you

could do to just combat what that baby face is doing. Because sounds so familiar. So now let's go back and look at the birther situation through this lens of the wrestling narrative, okay. Okay, I need to I need to define a few terms here. So the heel is the bad guy. And he's said to be the bad guy. And then you have the baby face, which that's the good guy. And so in the birther situation, Obama's the baby face, everybody loves zoom, and Trump the heel,

and Trump set himself up to be the hero. how toxic the birther thing would be, but he's like, No, as the gentleman just laid out, and then here you have to do the most despicable thing possible to be to be identified as the heel in the relationship according to the audience. Yes. And then the audience is going to take up for the baby face of course, where he knew that going in I watched that all this was planned. Other than I don't think he would think he

wouldn't let baby face bury. I'll get the best of him. So, baby, so very okay, so um, nothing that's the only miscalculation he had, but that was still a fuel for him. Yeah, to drive for the combat for the great wrestling has got to come back. You bet. You got to have the comeback. Well, let's get into heel heat too. But it's so much more than that. It's about deliberate, nasty aggression. It's about just you know, cheating to win. It's about breaking rules and just doing everything that is not

right. And in sometimes you gotta think about it. It's not that cut and dry. It's not black and white and more guys aren't doing it. Because they, you know, it's there's easier ways out of it. But if you look in history and in today's wrestling business of guys that have success, and they're very few today, but as you know, especially back in the 80s, if you go back and look at some of the classic heels and our business, you will see what that is. I mean, it could be small things.

Okay, so who are the classic heels from wrestling? Well, we got to look at a heel. We got to look at the heel of all heels. Mr. Ric Flair, wrestling Ric Flair. And here is the World Heavyweight Champion. Girls. Why don't you give it to him one more time. We're standing here today. The World Heavyweight Champion I gotta talk, we all gotta be quiet. We've only just begun. That's the end of it. dusty roads. Don't ever make a mistake on sticking your nose in my business. I'll get up and take

care of myself. So dusty roads. Remember when you walk out here? Talking Ric Flair. Don't think you can walk into a ring and give me a hand or trying to help me out and ease the tension in our relationship. Philadelphia, I've got to tell you that. When I get the town, we're going to treat all you women, the way women ought to be treated. And the real men are going to take that Civic Center apart. And then we are going to be over a rodeo driving the women Wow.

Then sounds like rally Trump pretty much pretty much my little Marco. Exactly. Little Marco bubble boy. You know, I alluded to before knock the hell out of him. Get him out of here. I mean, even he even has friendly fire. Right? One guy out there was overweight. Look how fat he is. And it was actually one of his own guys, one of his supporters. And only yesterday remember that? I remember that. Yeah. And it's the porter even took a picture with Matt.

Yeah, you're right. I needed to get out of a fatso. And let's take a picture. Oh, yeah. Yeah, that's me out. If I get that baby out of here. I don't think a lot of people really done this depth of analysis. Moses is very injured. I love it. And also, you know the angle you're coming. I'm not I mean, of course. I've watched wrestling. My daughter loves wrestling. I know people love wrestling. But now. It's like we get a free wrestling show. You don't have to pay 75 bucks. For pay per view.

Just have to watch the wrestling part. I want people to understand the wrestling part, the actual match in the pins and the moves. That's only a small portion of the show. Yes. I mean, if you actually come I grew up I was forced to watch wrestling. Cuz my oldest older brother not my oldest, but my older brother. He was a huge fan. So he would come in Saturday mornings. I whenever I'm watching a turn turn it over

to WWF ended up NWA those kinds of things. And so I grew out of it kind of young I mean, maybe 910 I mean I'm I still liked it but Ric Ric Flair is like one of my favorite characters period. I mean not even just wrestling I'm talking about in life because why he's from North Carolina. He was the Nature Boy and I never saw anybody talk this much excuse my language cash shit. And doing so well. So well. Right. Everybody else alive? What question girls all around the

world. Keep asking me the same question and my cousin wanted to know what's causing all this? You know what it is? intensified beef products you're talking about? All man? Ric Flair World Heavyweight Champion? Totally, totally after Trump all day, and if you listen to the prior clip to that when Rick started into named cities, right called a flame, same Safe Cities Trump coast with his arenas, oh my, but that it but it is super important that he gets that arena. And

that is kind of his big payoff. It's not, it's not really complete unless people can come to the arena. And this has been the problem with the Rona. And that's why the rallies were so demonized because they understand that's the, that's the payoff energy where it happened. That is the energy and I'm gonna lay out something here and we'll play the next clip that I lay this out. That is not

about Trump either is bigger than Trump. Now, these rallies have people to go from rally to rally to rally following him like a rock band like the Grateful Dead. Exactly. So they don't they're gonna go out and vote just to keep the show going for another four years. Doesn't matter about his policy. None of that is like it gives older people something to get out the house about, you know, he's gonna come and it's gonna be sure. Oh, it's a free show.

It's a free show. But I bet you they support him value for value because I mean, it's okay, get the free show. But then they get he gets the donations versus donations, retweets lecture, he gets a trade off. But the point I'm trying to make here is not only do they not want to see Trump leave, they will don't want to see this phenomenon or this experience of coming to their city two or three times next four years. They don't want

to give that up like Lollapalooza. Exactly. So let's get to New Jersey Trump rally. massive crowds. Look at these gathering in Wildwood waiting to hear the President speak. Some of his supporters have been camping out there for more than two days now. We have team coverage for you. Let's start with news four's Brian Thompson live in Wildwood among those massive crowds, Brian.

Yeah, the crowds are pretty big out here. I gotta say police estimating a little while ago at least 12,500 going in or on the streets here of Wildwood. They open the doors a little before three. But look at you can still see this kind of through those people. There's an end of the line there. But my guess is at this point, they probably won't get in the story all day, the lines of people waiting and hoping to get in somebody's 400 seat Convention Center. Before you could say you were at the

end of the line. More people got in line behind you. If you don't get here. Wow. Yep. It's not a bad thing. Um, here's what the gentleman said. So it's not even about getting in. It's the, I mean, you got and I don't want to be ageist here. But you got God's 50 Plus, you know, blue diamonds are flying everywhere, you know, and it's the next snag and the old chicks was older. I mean, it gives you something to get the house to, I mean, you're not

going to clubs or bars anymore. It's like when you go I'm going out to the Trump rally. He's coming to town. Yeah. And that's why they want to stop it with the Coronavirus. Yes, that is dammit mo hence, damage. I'm glad it takes a younger man to teach me stuff about Trump. Thank you. Alright, so now we can go back to what they alluded to before about his comments to the black voter, but we have to look at it through the lens of the heel and the wrestling narrative.

No group in America has been more harmed by Hillary Clinton's policies than African Americans. No group, no group. If Hillary Clinton's goal was to inflict pain on the African American community, she could not have done a better job. So disgrace. Tonight I'm asking for the vote of every single African American citizen in this country who wants to see a better future. Wow. He doesn't have to say what she did wrong. Doesn't even have to know is the chaos. Say it beautiful.

And listen to the talk and listen to the crowd. It will get worked up. You know, they're getting me on and getting all lathered up to chance about the comb. Yeah, African Americans Yeah, whatever he said that I mean, that goes back to the state when I didn't clip it cuz I mean, everybody knows it. Wow. 100 times. You heard this before it before the payoff question. When you You heard this, like, up until this moment, this clip right here. What did you think?

I'm not he's actually saying that no other politician has the balls to say that, that Hillary Clinton did worse for African Americans or just the fact that he's talking about it at all. We knew it, but it's no pile. It was kind of like a buddy buddy. Republicans weren't really sad because they kind of voted for the crime bill, too. I think this is one of the things where Trump was similar with Obama with the war and you're saying the Middle East? He had no part of it so we can be okay, got it.

Yeah, so he's getting the crowd all worked up. And then we go into the famous line that kind of brought the show together. Look how much African American communities have suffered under democratic control. To those I say the following. What do you have to lose by trying something new like Trump? When he unimproved Trump's tasty now with peanut butter? I say it again, what do you have to lose? Look, what do you have to lose? You're living in poverty. Your schools are no

good. You have no jobs. 58% of your youth is unemployed. What the hell do you have to lose? At the end of four years, I guarantee you that I will get over 95% of the African American vote, I promise you. Over 94% This is great. So what we need to do is make sure everyone knows he's a racist. It's impossible. And here's the gaslighting from endorsed narcissism. No, you're not I get 95% of the African 95%. And no, you're going to swing your for 85% One way 80% One way to 95% the other way,

but no, it's gaslighting. Now here comes the narcissism again. It's fantastic. Yeah. 95% Guaranteed. Try Trump now with with fresh new smelling scent. And the third person you gotta love that. I mean, he'll be him refer to himself with a single name. It says it's like, yeah, great product. It's the brand. It's the brand that we were talking about. Being a winner. It's a winner and you should do that more often. Try Trump. That's a really strong statement.

That is that is a good one. Yeah. So wrestling has not only had an impact on Donald Trump, but other American originals. One being Mr. Muhammad Ali. He was not great. A talker. Tony met Gorgeous George in Las Vegas. I saw a wrestler was named gorgeous joy. Plays was down back with people causes of the mouth. They hated God this guy they want him to meet but they paid $100 a ringside seat so gorgeous.

George walked out with his pretty silver hair. And he was walking so proud people's booth are your fans Ah don't count on the mouse you I can't lose. cuddle my long locks in the ring. Look at my beautiful blonde hair. If you mess up this her are killing our knowledgeable I can't move off the greatest. I got this gorgeous George. This was a good idea. Look, he's getting ripped. So I started talking. I am the greatest. I cannot be beat. I'm too pretty to be a

fighter. What he's doing is he's taking the American culture what's in the air at the time and he invents something called Cash is clay the greatest. Wow. With the hair no less with their hair. Gorgeous George. Ric Flair. Donald Trump they all have this blonde hair. I don't know what it is about the blonde hair but as you heard Ali say and they and Ali took what he learned from Gorgeous George and that's how you came up with Kashi

Kelly. The biggest understanding one of the biggest jump talkers there is but he was willing to play the heel. He'll phenomenon is so good. This is so spot on. Absolutely. And then a certain point. He just had everybody and then he You can see it was still the same. Muhammad Ali was still there had an arrogant thing about him, but everybody loved him. And he wasn't as love now as he would mean he wasn't as loved as

he is now back then. Exactly. It's very, very polarizing figure, want for his war views, but for other reasons as well. But let's wrap up with the Gorgeous George Couric clip and then we'll get into some of the other statements that Ali made. It's a self creation, it's a very American thing. And cashes claim. Muhammad Ali to me is writ large, one of those self invented American characters, Cassius Clay understood that ultimately, we're just hungry

for copy. So if you give us copy, as long as you give us copy, you can you can pull our strings and we have to write about you and Cassius Clay was able to frame the story the narrative was so the media knows it's like a new Ollie. Yeah, as long as he's given us copy laws, He's given us caught Wisconsin. Put him on no matter what he's saying. He's doing poetry flow, click Float like a butterfly sting like a bee. He's great. Put them on TV.

And so Trump, I'm sure he's aware of Ollie because of his involvement in the boxing, you know? Sure. And the wrestling so he's aware of this creating, you know, the atmosphere of tension and driving that tension to you to you know, meet your goal. But yeah, well, I Lee just like Trump if we want to use the castle cannon, yeah, we can't so I leave for his ratio integration stamp standpoint. Proof I know he went out now we're getting into now you can get me Are you getting

into the meat, the meat and potatoes? Exactly. What exactly was his racial statement? On immigration? Let's listen. I got a clue. I understand. Yeah, I do understand. I understand. I think it's, I think sad that underneath. Because every intelligent person wants his child to look like him. I'm sad because I want to blot out my race and lose my beautiful identity. Chinese love Chinese. They love the loss none of that pretty brown skinned babies. Pakistan is love their culture.

Jewish people love the culture. A lot of Catholics don't want to threaten them. The Catholics they want the religion to be stayed the same. Who want to spot up yourself and kill your race. You you hate of your people. If you don't want to stay who you are You shame what God made you. God didn't make no mistake. We made us all like my philosophy and disperse this.

Number one. No woman on this whole earth, not even a black woman in Muslim countries can please me and cook for me and socialize and talk to me like my American black woman, woman and last as a white man can really identify with me and my feelings and the way I act and we are taught. Yeah, yeah, he Wow, he went really far in that. Yeah, he would definitely get the council candidate. If he was living in 2020. Oh, no, he would be like, here, here we go. They're like, Hey, guys, look over here.

It'd be all over it be all over. Wow. And even he even alluded to the difference. I'm gonna just a small aside, he even alluded to the difference between the African American and black and blacks and other countries because he didn't make it a race thing. Because he was like, even a woman and you know, an African country, she could understand me. But I'm just saying, if we want to look at the people through a certain lens, we might start having to get rid of a lot

of American heroes and originals. This was why this is very dangerous. Or, or people get used to this and see it for what it really is and allow themselves to like it, or we get another strong competitor on the stage. There's more people who can play this game. That's true. That's true. But yeah, I just don't think Ali would. That's, that's that's a tough one because they I mean, this goes, this goes to back to my statement, I'll repeat often

the man versus the product. The Ollie product is so great now that he gets a pass on these statements and they kind of like gloss it over. Because they don't want to ruin how he was used later on in his life. by people with their own agendas. So I mean, I said this is a slippery slope when we start talking about if you just play that clip, I mean or not even if you just had the transcript of that and take his name off Oh, no, it would be completely unacceptable. completely unacceptable

what he said. So now we're being hypocrites. Yep. This goes back to the thing again, a hypocrite. You know, we're being hypocritical. And we don't want to start looking ourselves in the mirror and say, do we judge one person in this way and other person the other way? Right. But alright, so it also there's if Trump is doing this, a new heel can come in the game. Well, I don't think you have to heels. Well. Can you out hill a heel? I mean, because they didn't hospitably possibly.

I think the Democrats try that. That's what you hear the Biden. I'll take them out behind the woodshed. That kind of thing. Yeah. Right. And it just doesn't fall right. Because y'all been baby faces? Well, for so long. Exactly. That's the right you need a fresh guy to come in who can be the heel of all heels a new guy or gal or some who would that be? Who would that be on the Democratic side? Who would you doesn't have to be a Democrat? I mean, maybe we'll have to maybe kind of maybe Kanye.

But I think Kanye is he's miked up with Trump through the serpent energy which that's that's gonna write a whole nother show. It is I'm just saying and the wolf king in the in the world in the world of wrestling, you do get new winners that come in. But I never seen a heel upset or unseated by another heel. It'll have to be no need another Obama, they'll need another baby face that you feel so sympathetic for that the heels taken on and will make you turn against the heel.

Do Okay, well, anyway, just reminiscing. Okay? Hold it up. I know we will. But since we're talking wrestling, we have another component of pro wrestling. And that's storytelling. So what I really wanted to go over today is, is quite honestly, you know how to tell a story, doing something compelling, because let's face it, guys, you know, pro wrestling. We're storytellers. You know, that's what we do. And a lot of guys from my era know this better than anybody in the

business. But I think a lot of times the younger generation, especially translate it to the indie level, guys have a real hard time. So I always like to start from the finish you know, what, what is the promoter want from the match? You know, so I'll get the finish I know hey, you know, I'm going to Tombstone you 123 That's the finish and then I personally and a lot of other guys do we like to go backwards? You know and a lot of

guys don't do this as well. Is the comeback of a match is the most important I mean just picture like a rocky and Apollo I know I'm dating myself believe me too, you know 70 stuff but you know Rocky Balboa was getting the crap beat out of them, you know, the whole the whole night the whole match. And then finally against all odds, you know, the music starts playing he makes a comeback uh, you know, through everyone's surprised he's coming he's coming he fights to stay alive.

And that's what really you know, pro wrestling is it's it's a story of survival. It's a guy the underdog fighting from underneath. And then you build and you build I mean, a lot of guys have a you know, in a comeback. A heel should be right there for the baby face bump, feed bone feed has to be there

because believe me in that split second. If a baby face does not have a heel pop and up for him if the heels just lead assing on the ground and not coming up. You know, the crowd dies, you lose them in a millisecond. Oh, my baby face Joe is just perfect, isn't he? Yeah, cuz they could, they could really write the script for Joe.

They can make him be whatever they need him to whatever they want him to respond to whatever they want him to say they can make him do it all because that's the reactionary nature of, of old fashioned politics. What in the last 20 seconds of that clip? The media has to keep Trump because they they're the show that Trump is the as the guy said, you can lose the crowd and a slit or even a millisecond. And if you lose the crowd, you lose your audience.

You lose your ratings. That's it. And if you notice, I want to point one thing out. If you notice this Trump came alone, we haven't had any international strong men. No, Osama No. Saddam Hussein. mean, you got the one, the one terrorist guy we took him out. For the fourth time Baghdadi. Baghdad is dead again, ladies and gentlemen, what Trump used Trump use them saying, but the media didn't use them Trump use, I'm saying the media, they're like, Oh, we got

our hill. I mean, because that's all you need to keep people in game, right? Exactly. You don't need Kim Jong on you don't need anybody really. And actually, they make Kim Jong on the good guy. That's the did smarter. Ah, this has been a great education on professional wrestling. In fact, this could be a college course, professional wrestling, applied politics in professional wrestling something there's, there's a whole college course, just doing this as really good.

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the donation page mo e FUND me.com. Mo fund me.com. And thank you again for producing episode 45 of Mo facts with Adam curry. All right, so we laid off. The last clip was the pro wrestling storytelling. Yep. And I think this is one of the greatest strengths that Donald Trump has is his storytelling ability. I have to admit, one of my guilty pleasures was 2016. And I can't wait today startup again, is to listen to Donald Trump's

rallies. Whenever he has a rally, I will come in, put my headphones in and listen to it. And laugh and just laugh that you just bring me such great joy to me if you listen to you. Is it just the audio or do you do you have to see the video as well? I always like to see the video because the whole presentation.

Yeah, I'm hearing him is enough. But we've seen him is just it's hilarious is he's a slash stand up comic slash wrestlers slash, I mean, whatever you want to put there, and it's the perfect heel. And it was even more pleasurable when you everybody knows my disdain for Hillary Clinton and her policies. So even to hear that it was like, why are you not getting my vote, but I will show I'd like to show you get some tangible shoes and we might can talk because you're

on the right path. But what's your I'm going to show who? Exactly You got my attention with your show precisely. And just to show how great storyteller isn't doesn't matter the subject. He can make dishwashers and appliances sound interesting. I brought back the old light, better light for much less money, if you want somebody said, Oh sir, don't mention the light bulb. You know, it's hard to make an elegant speech upset got brought

back the light bulb. So the new light bulb costs you five times as much and it makes you look orange. But I'm also approving new dishwashers that give you more water so you can actually wash your dishes without having to do it. 910 Anybody have a new dishwasher? I'm sorry for that. I'm sorry for that. It's worthless. We won't talk about toilets. But you know, that's it. 50 But we don't talk about that. Because I've said this three or four times the only subject they ever

talk about is toilet. So I don't mention. But how about the shower? You go into a shower, and I have this beautiful hair I need a lot of is a show. Light bulbs, dishwashers, showers ours? orange hair, beautiful hair? Orange lighting or light bulbs make you look if that's not gas lighting, I don't know what is syntes? I hadn't heard that one. That's really good. So going back to the narcissism conversation we were having you

we pointed out depends on who he's talking to. If he displays those traits of narcissism or not, and I think Dick Gregory has an explanation why that may be the case. Vote a few weeks first, to Trump's Okay, the one in the red ties the real one. The one in the blue ties, not the one you saw last night after the victory was the blue tie. Now if you would punch up Dr. Carson, Ben Carson, when Trump called him a pedophile. And the next day he joined Trump. And the guy asked him seven I mean,

you slipped and he said, Why did you do that? He says to true I have with to get one just just pointing up when when somebody interviewed and he said this to Donald Trump's, that's your that's easy to pull up. I was Googling Ben Carson pedophile. I was Googling the wrong. So he called him that today before so you've only got some morning if you go make him the next day. See I join you, Dr. Ben Carson, there are two Donald Trump's. So I had to go back and pull the clip of Trump calling or

comparing being cost Carson to a pedophile. Yes, thank you, Carson's and an egg bomb. He wrote a book. And he's doing great in Iowa. He's second in the polls, with all these professional politicians. I'm first Carson second. And I don't understand it. I really don't understand it. Because he wrote a book. And in the book, he said terrible things about himself. He said that he's pathological. And then he's got basically pathological disease. If you're pathological, there's no cure

for that, folks. There's no cure for this. And I did one of the shows today. And I don't want to say what I said, but I'll tell you anyway, I said, if you're a child molester, sick puppy. You're a child molester. There's no cure for that. There's only one cure, we don't want to talk about that cure. That's the ultimate, you know, there's two, there's death and the other thing. And here's the beauty of all he took a knife, and he went after a friend and he learns, he learns that knife into the

stomach of his friends. But lo and behold, it hit the belt. It hit the bell, and the knife bro. I'd forgotten all about that story with the knife and the belt buckle. Holy crap. We've been through so much. And it wasn't 24 hours. Now I want to put Ben Carson on the hook where he did. If somebody likens you to a pedophile, you can't do business with him. I mean, it's just gotta be certain rules. But just a rundown a couple of lists before we get to Ben Carson's reply. Remember calling for your

Reno. Look at her face? Yeah. You had a little Marco. You had a little mark on the bubble, bubble boy, which he wasn't talking about, like a bubble. Well, he was talking about the bubbles. Oh, yeah, Miami parties that that he used to Damson. And then Ted Cruz, we are talking about Ted Cruz and his dad worked with Harvey Oswald. Yes. And all over who came back no sooner than like a week and are no longer than a week and kiss the ring because they want to be they want it's better to be in the

show. Than Not at all? Yes. It could be that or it could be something else. But let's listen to Carson kiss the ring. I think the Republican Party particularly would be very wise not to adopt, let's stop this guy. And let's promote this guy policy, but rather, start thinking about what are the things that are going to be helpful for America. There are two different Donald Trump's there's the one you see on the stage. And there's the one who's very cerebral, sits there and

considers things very carefully. You can have a very good conversation with him. And that's the Donald Trump that you're going to start seeing more and more of right now. I think there are two Donald Trump's is the public version. And people see that and I don't know what they see exactly, but it seems to have worked over my lifetime, but it's probably different. I think then the personal Donald Trump, I think

Ben would say that Ben said it very well today. So perhaps there are two Donald Trump's but well, I you know, I'm somebody that is a thinker. I'm a big thinker. Why are there to Donald Trump? Did you at some point make a conscious decision to behave differently in public for the good to Donald Trump? So I think there's one Donald Trump but certainly you have, you know, look, all of this.

Somebody else reads and thinks, and I'm a thinker, and I have been a thinker, big brain and perhaps people don't think of me that way. Because you don't see me in that forum. But I am a thinker. I thought it was very nice what Ben said actually because it is another side that I'm They're very deep thinker. Unbelievable. winning four hours later. Unbelievable. That is so cool. And that goes to show you about why we were taking the narcissism test. We have such varied answers because it's like

which Trump are you talking about? Oh, my rickshaw driver Trump or public Trump? Which nothing privately he's very low. Yeah, but publicly, he puts off air like you crossed me. It's the worst thing you could ever do. And even Omarosa alluded to that. Yeah. And her clip about becoming the most powerful man in the universe. She says, Yeah, wow. This explains a lot of things. But I'm just trying to figure out what does he say to these people? That make them being so easy? So we say there's two

Trump's right. And I don't know if you noticed or not, but Trump saw is a Gemini. Yes. Which means these two faced face to face. What are those two faces? The laugh now cry later? Yeah. Those are the symbols of the gesture. Mo, you got to stop this now. Would you? Or would you have done right, I'm just gonna say I'm just gonna take a break. Everybody slow down. But Mo is doing is empowering. Every single one of us. And I'm thankful personally, because I'm

tired. You know, I've since 2015. I've followed him, I've, I've analyzed him. The Rona lock down period became very tough, especially when he was doing a news conference every day. Tina, the keeper, she eau de she's like, I can't, I can't handle any more than narcissism. Once you see it in the context of the red, the red tie, blue tie, and the context of the show. I think it's much healthier. For for every once you understand your stood Yeah, then then you can be at ease and maybe even, you

know, look ahead one step and understand what's going on. This is great. Okay, so I'm sorry, I just wanted to interrupt you there. So now we're back to the gestures 38. So this is really built to this story is built around a jester. Tell us why what what is the, for those who don't really know, what is the role of the jester, in literature in you know, in society throughout sort of, you know, history?

Well, the jester is a strange character that shows up in early modernity literature of 16th and 17th century, the jester or the trickster, and he's master of escape. And he's usually a strange, half funny, and half dark, mean figure who plays pranks, but then is also great at escaping, and who is also very good at, well, things like conjuring or dancing, or in the case of my jester, until Owens people dancing on a tight rope. So he's a lot about escaping and surviving in very dark times.

And he's someone, I think that might be the most important thing. You never know what he's going to do. He's kind of there's always some aura of unpredictability around him, and anything is possible where the gesture is. nails it again. And we talked about dancing. He talks about dancing on that tightrope. Trump lives day to day is the 24 hour cycle, right? Wait, yes, in the morning. Yeah. And I noticed this. This is why I really know is like he's in control of this whole thing,

because he will wake up and this is during election time. I mean, the election, Trump is a little bit different from Yeah, governing Trump. So we're remote most of the time, because we're about to get back into the election. Trump again here, similar things kind of open up. But what he did is he would wake up three, four o'clock in the morning, supposedly, or have some I sent it out or scheduled tweet, and he will say some of

the most inflammatory statement. And by six o'clock news here walked it back to something something reasonable. So here's what I was gonna say. Here's a recent example. Shall I move the election date, which was completely intended to get the conversation about mailing voting started again? Yes, and he totally manipulated that and everybody took the bait. He's

crazy. He's gonna push it back, and then they come then he to Kayleigh McEnany his spokes whole says me By the way, very irresponsible that was in Iran or some other country, that they're talking about delaying their election very irresponsible. That country is doing that. If you could see the brain freeze happening, like wah, wah, he always walks you into that trap. So if he has the answer, or the rebuttal lined up, yeah, it's just and what and what did

he got saved from the wrestling. He said, When you have a story, you start at the end. So he knows how it's gonna end. And he works the story up to the beginning. So he's like, what the birther because I know how it's going to end. I can blame Hillary Clinton for putting this thing together. I'll kick it out there. And I'll know how and and he works it back to the beginning. And it's a beautiful formula that he uses. People appreciate what they're

Yes, yes. And, yes, here is another word for Joker's Well, I didn't want that to be mixed up people. And Joker, Batman, Dark Knight, we have all these other comparisons, that's when you saw the movie Joker come out, people were thinking that was going to be a owed to Trump. So there's something going on there with Trump and the gestures and the and the Joker analogy and the trick there.

So it might sound a little bit like cognitive dissonance then because you talk about, you know, The Conjuring, the magic, the jest, the jokes, etc. And yet, you set this historical novel in one of the darkest periods in European history, the

30 year war in the 1600s. What brought you to put till this gesture at the heart of this novel, I really wanted to write about this time, this time of darkness and chaos and the moment in European history when there was a complete meltdown of all political structure of order of civilization. And I wanted some kind of guiding character who could lead the reader through this chaos that Europe was at this moment. And society was very rigid. People didn't really

move, the people didn't travel. People also didn't move up or down socially. So people from different social classes didn't meet. But the jester can, of course, go anywhere, and also would meet all kinds of people who would also meet kings or peasants, or anyone in between, because he would perform in front of them, man. Great. Well done, sir. Very well done. Well played. Can I ask you a question, Adam? Sure. What's the highest card in a deck of cards? The ace the Joker.

I thought it was the old made honestly. But okay. The joker is the big Joker, little Joker, the ACC King. You're right. And the reason why the Joker is the most powerful because he can he can tell him the narrative. And he'll go educate the commoners. Wow. So it's interesting when the king is the Joker. Yeah. Exactly. And he said one more thing I want to point out now in a previous show, I think oh, no, no. SIBO Yeah, I'm talking about the media working spells, conjuring spells what he said

about the gesture. He's very good at conjuring Condrey. He understands the media like the back of his hand. That's his real brilliance. He understands the media cycle. He understands how people receive the media, and that he contracts his bills. Fantastic. You're so right. You sound great. And the biggest joker of them all is Loki from the Norse mythology. In the story, the master builder, owed in the most powerful North God proposes a wall to keep out the chance and

the trolls. I suppose it made me laugh with the sort of contemporary political reference to Donald Trump's wall. But also is it a reminder that mankind has been building walls and trying to keep the enemy out for centuries in myth as well as in reality? I mean, how do you think history and mythology helps us make sense of the great ructions going on in western politics at the moment? I mean, is absolutely fascinating that the way you have this story in which Odin goes we need a giant wall around

Asgard to keep all the Giants out. And actually he winds up getting a giant to build the wall and is determined to make the Giants pay for it. So which may well be weird Donald Trump got the idea. Holy crap. Are you kidding me now? Are you kidding me now? So hello Adam. Now let's go with let's go back to the very beginning if we talked about the birther Obama Trump, so Trump is Loki then Obama has to be Thor. What was Loki always saying Touriga all the praise and that's what made Loki bitter.

What do we say about Trump and his relationship with his father? He always was seeking the praise of God Yeah, I was looking for the did we see something bigger play out here and this whole I mean because these people on this level when we get on that level will also world the stage also Obama's Dreams from My Father so many different things in this so many things in this is wrapped up. It's just the

same old darn stories told over again. This is great over and over and over when will we ever learn Mo Oh wait, we learned on episode 45 of Mo facts with Adam curry. So what we have to look into is more a deeper into who Loki was and let's look into the myth of Loki. willscot into a realm of wonders was where the Norse gods made their home. Their opens Great Hall a vow towered above the mountains and by frost the Rainbow Bridge anchored itself.

But though their domain was magnificent, it stood undefended from the Giants and trolls of Yota Neymar, who despise the gods and sought to destroy them. One day when Thor strongest of the gods was off fighting these photos, a stranger appeared riding a powerful grey horse. The visitor made the gods an astonishing offer. He would build them the greatest wall they'd ever seen higher than any giant could climb, and stronger

than any troll could break. All he asked in return was the beautiful goddess throw his hand in marriage, along with the sun and moon from the sky. The gods balked at this request, and we're ready to send him away. But the Trickster Loki concocted a devious plan. He told the gods they should accept the strangers offer, but set such strict conditions that he would fail to complete the wall in time. That way, they would lose nothing. Well, getting most of the wall built for free.

will have 400 Miles done. We got to keep them going. crap and he said that he will make them figure out how to pay it was gonna pay for it? Yes, of course. But it will. He began his election. And that's how he built he began his election remember coming out saying about Mexico. All right, so So when does the snake story fit into all this? You know his story? Oh, the Oh, yeah. The Woman Yes. With the snake that's got to be another part of this. This whole dynamic?

It does. And that's like I said, that's another story for another day because that goes to talk about what Herman Cain was talking about the serpent energy. These people communicate on a certain level that they understand each other. Because just in my viewpoint, and this is just my viewpoint, and it may be Theramin ready, but I think the fact that I think they all are high level, witches and warlocks and they understand that they understand the craft. witches and warlocks

are manipulation. Well, not only that, but you know, they're, they're really so they really understand how to how to work this. It's kind of like, it's another version of the Illuminati symbolism. Only it's much simpler. The Illuminati is just a different flavor. It's all saying stacked up on top of each other. It's just the same story repeated over and over and over and over again. I'm enjoying it this time around. I can't wait until someone tells me the story next time I really enjoy it.

So before we hit his last clip, which is the last clip now let's keep in mind with what they said about the storytelling. They said the heel nose and historic tell them the end first, and then they build the story up to meet the ending right? Listen how Loki handles the problem with the wall. With only three days left until summer. The wall stood high and impenetrable, with only the gates left to be built.

Horrified, the gods realized that not only Would they lose their fertility goddess forever, but without the Sun and Moon, the world would be plunged into eternal darkness. They wondered why they'd made such a foolish wager, and then remembered Loki, and his terrible advice. Suddenly, Loki didn't feel so clever. All of his fellow Gods threatened him with an unimaginably painful death if he didn't find some way to prevent the builder from getting his payment. So Loki promised to

take care of the situation, and dashed away. Outside Knight had fallen and the builder prepared to set off to retrieve the final load of stones. But just as he called Spotify to a mayor appeared in the field. She was so beautiful that Spotify ignored his master and broke free of his reins. The mason tried to catch him, but the mayor ran deep into the woods,

and Spotify it followed. The stranger was furious. He knew that the gods were behind this and confronted them no longer as a mild mannered Mason, but in his true form, as a terrifying mountain giant. This was a big mistake, Thor had just returned to Oh, Scout. And now that the gods knew a giant was in their midst, they disregarded their oaths, the only payment the builder would receive, and the last thing he would ever see was the swing of Thor's mighty hammer, mule near.

All right, break it down for everybody. So he, he knew from the very beginning, how to expose this stranger that came in, agreed to build the wall right. Now, I'm not saying wall literally in Trump's case, but he's been doing all his deals with China. He knew that linchpin in the pool to fully expose them. So I mean, it seems like always chaotic. The world's coming to the end, but he's like, no, no, no, no, no, no, watch this. Hold my beer. What? Right?

I don't know how this is going to end before I even get started. And it's going to end up being the Chinese flu that came from a Chinese lab that was lab created. And he allowed it to happen. Yeah. This is not gonna say that when he for say 40 chests. People like to throw that word around. And this dude knows exactly what's going on and nothing by accident. Oh, yeah. You have to say is Loki and the master builder.

That's it. That's all you got to say. And then you got to say, if you don't understand how Trump relates to loci in the master builder, you need to be doing the work my friend, I'm surprised you you have not used your privilege to do the work properly and become aware by going to mo facts.com I'm shocked by your unawareness. It's quite disgusting. Mo very enjoyable episode. This will this will help a lot of people with their mental state when

they just can't stand it anymore. They'll think back to this episode, maybe even listen to it again for a refresher. And it's almost like the Disneyland when you're on the ride and starts to spin in the tunnel and you like oh if they always say if if it's spinning if you don't feel good, just look at the ground and all goes away. That's basically what this episode was. Just just listen to this. All the spin and we'll stop that's fine and I personally really appreciate this one.

And the looking at the ground here is as I always say, pay attention to everything and the truth revealed itself. Mo fax.com Go directly to our donation page at mo fund me.com mov Fu N d m e dot c o m mo thank you so much we will see you next week my friend All right see you later Adam and we leave you with the one and only chairman of the board. We will now do the national anthem what you need right so I say the

final my friend I'll make it clear. I'll state my case of good chimes so I've lived a life that's full draw each and every Hi boy I did it my way I've had a few but then again too few of them mentioned what I had to do I saw it through without exemption each charted course each CAFO step along the way my way what is what has he got? If not himself he has to say the record show