44: Big Bank Barry

Hey mo facts with Adam curry for July 25 2020. This is episode number 44. And we did it. It's Saturday and we're dropping. Can't believe it. Am I doing dropping on a snare? I'm doing fine. Yeah. Dropping out. Oh, how about yourself? Yeah, I'm doing real good. It's, it's been. I guess it's been a pretty good week. And yeah, I've done my homework been I've been doing the work, which means I watched all all the episodes of The Last Dance about the Chicago Bulls, Michael Jordan and I feel

I've I've been schooled. Now I know what's going on. I also realized that when it comes to podcasting, I'm really you know, the Michael Jordan of podcasting, which makes you the Scottie Pippen. I'll be that no, you're not you're not the Michael Jordan of podcasting you the Naismith? Oh, I mean, you know if I can take all that. Majority, and he only played well, what a fantastic what a fantastic documentary and the whole time. It's in your

face right there. Why is this man successful? Because he had a supportive dad. I think that's a huge part of it. And you can see all these guys, all these abnormal Pippin had, you know, a little different situation, but holy crap, man, dads, that's the common denominator. That contrast we had to do that contrast between LeBron James

who didn't have that right, strong, Father structure. And presidents compare it to Michael Jordan, who did that that has to be discussed down the line somewhere, because there's a huge contrast there. And I'm glad you brought that up. Yeah, it was it was fascinating to see I really enjoyed it. Speaking of father figures, this next topic we cover today is going to be an influential part of the story as well. Okay, let me roll out the wheel. Hold on, everybody has time to

spin The Wheel of topics where it stops. Nobody knows. Well, obviously Moe kind of knows. But let's see what we're going to be discussing on today's episode of moe facts with Adam curry. This is episode number 44. The topic is Barack Hussein Obama. Okay, we haven't done a full episode on Barack Obama, have we? No, we haven't. And it's this do Thomas show. 44? Yeah, he's the

44th president. So coming off the last episode. And coming out the last episode of The Marxism in community organizing I thought it was only appropriate that we take a official deep dive into into the topic which you can't cover him in one episode alone. No, no, it's his his rise was so incredible how it worked in Chicago and everything and forget Hawaii and before that, but it's really quite a tale that it down as it's been

written about by many people. I don't know how many people actually know the true story or the outside of the narrative that we've all heard. If you just take it on his face day, you got a man here named Barack Hussein Obama elected in a time where America was fighting a war in the Middle East. And he's so called Black by, you know, the how loosely they use the definition but has no lineage to slavery, apparently, or how it's

reported. And he has a mom named Stanley. So I mean, like, if you tell me if you tell me that's going to be your 44th President. I'm taking the money against that happening. So right Right, right here. Yeah, on that. So get into I guess we need to just drive on dive right into da da das city of Brock Obama one. On tonight on hardball, we bring you a special report on the audacity of Barack Obama, covering the remarkable journey

we've witnessed of him through the Obama erg. It's looked back at how the President has conducted himself in the public eye, how he evolved in office and how he overcame the many challenges that stood in his way. We were there from the very beginning, of course, when as a relatively unknown State Senator Barack Obama delivered that rousing keynote address at the Democratic Convention up in Boston back in 2004. There is not a liberal America and a conservative America,

there is the United States of America. There is not a black America and a white America and Latino America and Asian America. There's the United States of America. first glimpse we all knew I did. I thought we're witnessing something special here. Here was my immediate reaction after he was finished with that amazing speech. Oh, his leg was tingling.

I have seen the first black president there. No reason I say that is because because I think the immigrant experience combined with the with the African background, combined with the incredible education, combined with his beautiful speech that every politician gets helpful in his speech. Speech was a piece of work. Hey, yeah. Yeah, you know, it was really interesting about that particular convention. That was the first convention that they gave press credentials to bloggers. And Obama was just

swamped swamped. He did a lot of work with the bloggers in the in the press room, it was, that was definitely a part that has not been discussed very often. And two things he said in that clip, I rang the bell for Warren, he talked about the roadblocks that Obama faced. I'm not sure like, election was not talking about once he got in office and the pushback that he received there. But during the

election, I don't remember remember any roadblocks. I mean, everything was like laid out for him perfectly by the press by everything else. To step right into the position. And two, he said about the background, and he even had the cash to sell because he said the immigrant rat ground Yeah, African, African American. Couldn't say African American spirits. Just that's not technically true. Right now about the speech, he gave it the Nanyuan just give me the 2004 convention. My man,

Nene fast. My one of my best friends, if not my best friend. We were rapping at the time. And he wrote a ROM it was like, Brock Obama's gonna be the next president or something like that. And we looked at each other. And I'm like, I mean, this is like in Oh, four when he wrote this and why. And that might. So and here's a clip. No, but we just lit when he said that. And it was like, Yeah, I was like, you might be right. After that. It was just like, he

came up on the radar. And boom, it was off to the running. Yeah, it was once he came out and Oh, four. But I say I said this before, and I'll say it again for this show. But for all four I'd never heard Obama. No, never, ever unless you knew about Illinois state politics, or really Chicago politics. But that's not the that's not the point I'm making. I got you. I had every copy of ebony,

I see what you're saying. Right? Yes, we watch BT faithfully, teamsnap that used to come on Saturday mornings, all these shows and never in my life heard of Barack Obama. And then he drops out of the sky. He just popped out of the womb. In 2004, like who is this guy, but nobody questioned his credentials. It's just like, who is in his like, Oh, he's our best shot to get a black president. So everybody just kind of got behind him. Yes. And that is that's kind of cutting it short. Everybody.

Just everyone just Oh, all right. Is that what happened? Everyone went? Oh, yeah. All right, cool. Well, they gave him the swag test. I mean, that was the term at the time used. I mean, I'm sure it's drip, or salsa or whatever. You want to use now. More, more recent slang, but he had the swag test. He had the Bob, he gave the proper depth, you know, black wife, black kids, right? Like, he goes down to checks. And then he didn't have the white diction that you

normally have with somebody of his credentials. So it was it was it was perfect. I mean, we'd hear so my Harvard Law Review and Yale and no skull and bones. You don't talk in that way. It's the right, right. Okay, so he checks a lot of boxes right off the top. He checks every box. How about how about your mom? What did your mom say when she first saw Obama? Everybody loved him. Yeah. I mean, it was like Brock Obama. I mean, I can't I can't explain it. It was just he was a foot. I

don't think people can really wrap their head around. I mean, he we talked him bigger than Martin Luther King. We're talking bigger than Michael Jordan. I mean, on that level of fame, but overnight, it just came out of nowhere. So and was there really want people to understand that? Was there a discussion about his so called blackness, in your family or with your friends? Oh, no, you can't question him. Once he hit

the scene. It was like he was above questioning because he was like, this is our best shot and when I say us Not me, per se, my generation. I think it was the odor. I hate to use this term, but boomers. Yeah, they were like, This is what we fought for. This is what we, even though a lot of them didn't participate in the civil rights movement, it was like, This is what the whole movement was about. Yeah. That makes total sense. This was the Yeah, this was the

culmination the crescendo of it all. This is where this is where we want to have, right? Correct. So let's get into Audacity to three short years later, we got it at the place for Abraham Lincoln once stood in Springfield, Illinois, to hear the future president kick off his campaign, coldest day of the year in the shadow of the Old State Capitol, where Lincoln once called on a house, divided to stand together, where common

hopes and Common Dreams still live. I stand before you today to announce my candidacy for President of the United States of America. I think it's so important we look back and catch the dynamic of this the wonderful trend of a guy who comes from really nowhere state senator, basically is on the roadmap, states and before he was even elected as a senator from Illinois, out of nowhere, magic, how did it happen? How is it possible he's an American Great, rare, Merc?

That's not legit. Observation. I mean, out of Nope. I'm one of these people. You know, I mean, I follow the policy even as a young person, just a little bit of the give people a little bit of understanding about where I come from. I was like, a junior Freedom Rider. Seventh grade treasurer. And I have to tell that story at another time. But I guess I mean, I guess I can give a short version of it. Yeah. Seventh grade, I went as

Treasury for my school. So I guess being a black person and winning that and being the treasurer of seventh grade, that put a flag on me to say like, really? No, I'm serious. I mean, I was like, kind of, um, they brought me into the guidance counselor's office. Like, we want you to be a genuine Freedom Rider. And they put us on a bus and we dressed up and kind of went like did like cosplay for silver rights. And this is kind of the insight, but I always veered away from that kind of

thing. Like, it's just strange. seems strange to me. Because when we went to these functions, they're pushing all kinds of other stuff like, women showing you how to put condoms on what bananas, I'm like, what post we were in. Freedom, right? When you were seven or eight. No, seven grades? Oh, seven grade. Oh, sorry. All right. I'm pro black. I mean, like, pro black. I mean, like, my dad, like what sets them great. So there's about a right time on

that at 13. He gives us he gave us all a copy of Malcolm X out about the autobiography of Malcolm X. But like he's here and like some weight. And I'm like, Yeah, let's go get you know. Let's go get our freedom. Right. And we get here and it's all these liberal looking back. Now hindsight, it's all these liberal policies they're pushing in agenda was this was this strain, which is a white school, black school, obviously mixed. What was the degree it was mostly?

Well, Durham is half a half from Durham from Columbia. So I would say it was maybe 6040 to 6535. But at these functions, it was majority white people telling you how to put a condom on a banana. Um, it was minorities. So you'd had a female it had to be female, but a lot of females but yeah, it was just weird. I mean, just get people inside. So I kept up with politics. I mean, long story short, I was kind of into politics and new who ever Black

was running. And Barack Obama never came across my radar ever right? Well, that's the that's the long short four minute story but you go freedom. Yeah, Jr. Freed. Me, man. They try to indoctrinate me early. What happened? We? We have to Yeah, we have to figure out why it didn't work. Why the programming failed on Yeah. Because I was taught to think for myself. Yes. Strong. Pretty sure that's part of it. Guess we can get away from that long story and get back into

Audacity? Three, Mike, I think sometimes we got to get away from a president for at least maybe a decade before we can even look back and see him Hall. What do you think of Obama? Because we're gonna go right through this the next 20 minutes and tell me about what you say now? Well, I think you have to begin by saying that this was a

terrific chief of state. This is someone who, with that family and that stature and his persona, represented this country well Around the world and, you know, presided wonderfully over this country in that role. You know, the other thing is that, you know, we're so pressed right now to have sort of an instant read on Obama's legacy, the way that future generations will see him. It's gonna depend so much on

what follows. I know it's somewhat frustrating. But let's say Donald Trump turns out to be an effective president and the economy is looking wonderful in a few years, you know, as a Trump goal, if Trump goes up, that's not going to be good for Obama. Oh, there we, yes. And who do you know? Who that was saying? Microsoft? I missed this last night. Sorry. I'm sorry. It was, there we have it. Yeah. The media tripled down on Obama. So if Trump is successful, no good, then it makes Obama look even

worse, and it makes the media look bad as well. So now you see part of the motive of keeping the Obama and I say a product for a reason because let's look at Obama through the same lens as MLK. I'm not talking about Noman here now, a large portion of this show we're going to look into the man but to the media. Key is a product of our control mechanism. I will say this as a politician, you probably can't get any better politician than

Barack Obama. One from one of history's best Absolutely. From the just how to work a crowd and just the appearance in the family life and carefree comedic timing. A pro perfect comedic timing so good. And women love them because he's not he. He wasn't in women's eyes. I've heard you say this. He's not so attractive that he makes me uncomfortable. Women have a thing for him. Oh, and he was a lot of women's fantasy sexual

fantasy. Definitely. Yes, definitely a lot of white women sexual fantasy and densenet secret and it's and and I also understand that I get that and I will say all women and for especially single moms he was like that dad to point to like you're a doofus. Look at your stupid man with your wife beater. Be like Barack. Exactly. Yes, very hard, very hard for us. Married men, Barack Obama years.

So hopefully, we understand part of the reason why the media will always protect Obama and, and bash Trump because they, the media got Obama elected. Let's just be honest here. I mean, that he was the media's candidate out the box. They did everything they could to undermine anybody that got into his way. And this and we're as we're here later in the show, this did this didn't just start with presidential politics. Oh, no. No. So now we have to get into a set of throwback clips, because they

laughed lavished all this praise on him. And this guy Michael, the last guy that spoke did this weird thing of we really need to wait a decade before we judge Obama. Yeah. Because if you look at the facts, Ray find anything. Exactly is nothing really there especially for black people, or so called black people or quote unquote black people. Um, so let's get into this next set of throwback clips from show 23 And we'll start with Tavis Smiley one.

This week while we were traveling in Iowa, we spoke with Mr. Smiley about what's changed over the last decade. As Martin Luther King Day approaches on Monday. We started by talking about what areas if any, are better for black American now than they were before Barack Obama took office. I'm sad to report that in every single leading economic category, black America has lost ground over the last decade in

every major economic category, we've lost ground. So this book comes out as you said in 2006. So clearly, this book was out before Obama shows up to win 2008. So the book was never about Barack Obama then this 10 year update is not about him now. But it is true that over these last 10 years, most of that on his watch black America has lost ground and the major economic indicator categories. It didn't take long for Tavis Smiley to be off the air.

And this is when Tavis Smiley lost his position and in black eight, yes, you you win against the goose that lays golden eggs. Yeah. And he told the truth and he received so much backlash. And like you said he just vanished. He was pretty much done. He got sued. Yeah, for so called sexual harassment and unpleasant workplace atmosphere, hostile workplace and a whole bunch of stuff. And so then PBS dropped him and then from there just went downhill.

And he was labeled as one of the worst things you can be in the black community. Really a hater. Hater. You're just the Obama hater. You're just a hater. You know, he's that to this day. Surely that's changed for some people that they don't think not that anymore or is he still was subconsciously when putting these clips together? That was a subconscious I mean, of course, he was conscious about thought about it, but it was a looming, let me use that word a looming

thought is like don't come across as just a hater. All right, we need we need to have fun. No, it's serious because I'm with you. This is a test you can do to see what the who you're talking to bring up Obama and see the Obama test right? You have the you have the obat, which he never did anything wrong and keep they'll even they'll go as far to as explain away why he didn't get anything done with the first two years when he had, you know, everything lined up for him.

They'll make excuses for that. But at the same time, they'll say he's the greatest thing ever happened to us. So those Oh, bots. Yeah. And then you have those people as well. He was good optics. You know? It's interesting. I was talking with the keeper about this just last night. My coincidence. I remember when, and I probably

have a clip from it somewhere. For the first two weeks after Obama was elected the first time the police were everywhere, saying hey, we're gonna be really on the watch anyone says any racist shit, we're coming after you. They were like super protectors of Obama. Do you remember that? Not No, I don't remember that. But I remember it was like a long like four month hangover. After he won of just party, especially inauguration it seemed like it never ate me. Oh,

yeah, there's Yeah, um, but it was. I'll mention his now just so people. If I hadn't heard previous shows, there was the wink wink nod nod. The first four years he has to do is now be presidential. And well, if we can just get him to the second tower, then then he's gonna do all the cool stuff for black folks. Right, reparations, all that, you know. Yeah. And that was not verbalized. But that was the that was the wink wink nod nod like we got, we got one we got went in.

And there was no reason not to think that were there any community leaders who were spearheading this wink wink, nudge nudge? Or was it really everyone? Not even Al Sharpton was saying anything? You couldn't talk about it though? Right? Because like, you don't want to scare white folks. Case good white voters, you know. So that was the balance because the his the makeup of what got him elected? was a lot of people it had to take it had

to be a lot of white people. I mean, of course, sure, black turnout, but he still is like this balance that he can't seem too scary. But he's one of ours, you know, in many who can't in many ways, in many ways. I think it was a bit of a reparation vote. Just considering goggles or do I just keep going? No, please. Follow you up. It was not a not a guilt vote. It was really a reparation vote.

Because I think when people voted for Obama, they really want it to my uncle, Republican all his life, CIA guy total, you know, best friends with Bush Senior Obama twice. And it was really, and of course, the hope and change message worked extremely well. Although, you know, it was, I think, rightly, universally scoffed. But the sad thing is, I really believe that if Obama had spent time in his second term on doing well, let's just call on getting tangibles. I think I think he could have

gotten it. I really do. I think he had the motivation. Yeah, screw the Republicans, or whatever. You know what? I think he could have gotten stuff done. Like real tangible stuff. I'm glad you call it a reparations vote. And it's not the fact that it's like oh, we voted because we owe you something. It was the fact that see if you put up a quality black person for the job, I don't mind hiring me it goes to show you my I'm all about the content of your character. No,

no. Did you use that line? Yeah, so it was like white people felt like see you put up a quality candidate will vote for him. Um, now I will say this about reparations, the same high that we had of the post racial America that they shot to sell us to sell us on. Real reparations will do that, and it will have the real effect. Because it's like, job. I mean, like, we handle that. So you can't can't beat me over the head with anymore. And that's why I'm a proponent of reparations,

right? So it's done. So it's done. And over with Yeah. Now we can start talking about this 400 year narrative, which I always say the narrative is just as dangerous as the action. Because kidding. That's what the mental slavery stems from, is the narrative. So you could put a tie that up, put a button on it, and then you can go and you know, start snoring forward slavery. Exactly. So I just want to let people know that Hi. And that camaraderie that we had to post right, right after Obama

and pre the Bure gate. We can get that. That could be the real, that could be the real feeling. So yeah, I guess we can let Tavis Smiley continue on with to talking about how we lost ground? What accounts for the fact that less that there's so little progress or indeed, the backsliding? What accounts for that going on? Under the the leadership of the first African American president? Why do we explain that VM? I think there are few things into your question. How do we

explain it? I don't know. I think the historians are going to have a very difficult time trying to juxtapose how in the era of the first black president, the bottom fell out for black America, that's gonna be a hard juxtaposition to make, I hope to be around to read what their account is for why they think that happened. But my research and this text suggest a few things in no particular order. Number one, there was too

much deference to the President by black people. We got so caught up in the symbolism that we didn't press hard enough on the substance. And so symbolism does matter. I just think substance matters as well. And so there was too much deference in some part. To the president on the part of black people, black leaders were sidelined and silenced too often in favor of an invitation to the White House. And so more could have been done in terms of pressing an agenda. You look at the gay

and lesbian community. Look at the environmental movement. Of course, Wall Street gets everything they want, but look at what other communities gained over the last decade. And look how black America wasn't just stagnant, but indeed lost ground over the last 10 years in part one, because we were too deferential man. He's probably ground zero of the cancel cannon. Can we get one? Yes, have a smile. He never gotta get a cannon because he was he was before his time a tree was trending.

And he says he said it. He was saying why I'm going to be canceled because you can't say anything bad about him. You got it. You know, all the leaders were sideline, yeah, nobody questioned him. And it was just at least he wasn't lying to everybody we use when you back in the corner, a mechanic they'll have a thing from Obama. They say at least the show my kids they one day can be black president. Right. That's that's pretty much the whole legacy. At least it

starts with at least Yeah, that's too bad. Yeah, that's really too bad. And really a miss chance. I mean, I never. I knew very early on something was up not with Obama. But I was going back and forth between London and San Francisco at the time and in the condo I was renting or apartment I was renting the my next door neighbor she was I think that's maybe where I do start using the term and Obama bought. And they

had camps. And she would volunteer. And these camps were like, three days in a row and you'd learn how to harass people voting for Obama. It was it was she was white. And really, really dedicated compared to now I would say, probably with an undertone of a Black Lives Matter type vigor, you know what I mean? But I'm not without saying what you're gonna vote for the black man. You know, almost it's not verbalizing that, but it was pretty clear and also a very strong sense of,

if you're not for Obama, then you're no good. There was a very strong sense of that. Let me say like, like, I think I hear if you're not for Obama, you're against black people. Well, that's obviously the implication. Yes, of course. You're obviously a racist, racist. Yeah, that's what white people do to each other. Well, no, because it's happening on the other side. Now we're 45 If you forget Donald Trump do you have to be Akun? His hands

across the border buddy There you go. Same thing. It's the same thing it's like you browbeaten into believing what everybody else wants you to believe instead of having your own but it's a clue is Akun just as bad as a racist or is a racist? Worst? I mean, what Trump's in paper, scissors, paper, rock scissors, you know which one we saw a cone is equal to what they call a race, traitor. I mean, that's the best that's a trade nation real traitor. Okay,

right. Right. So, modeling the worst thing to hurtful version of Uncle Tom, you're asked it. I mean, you're ousted from the communities. Right. Gotcha. I'm advertisement out Tavis Smiley but worse. Okay, so I got it. Yeah. So I guess we'll wrap up with the final clip from from Tavis number two. And clearly there was indifference. There's no doubt about the fact that this President received the kind of headwind that no presidents ever received, there was clearly

obstructionism so that that's a factor as well. But the third factor, I think, I would put as a question, I think, again, historians would debate this for years to come. Did Barack Obama not get enough done on black issues? Because he was obstructed? Or did not try hard enough? He did not do enough? And I think the answer is clearly both. We'll see what the historians come down on that. But this book, again, is not about him, per se. It's about where black America is. 10 years

after that text. And again, it's just not a happy report. There are pockets of progress. But across the board, we've regressed this was Tavis promoting his book. Yes. Do you know the title of it by any chance? I think it is. Black America lost ground in robotics something similar to the title of the clips? No, I'll make sure I get it in the show notes. Alright, so that's how it began and how ended. So what we had to do now is feeling we're not really gonna get into his any of his

policies or things that nature. I want to get into who was Barack Obama, before he was presented to us and Oh, four. And then what was the fallout of having him for eight years? That's kind of like where we're going with this show. So the biggest fear of Brock Obama, I would say from and I can't I'm speaking out of place here, because I'm not a white person, but a non black person, the biggest fear was, he could secretly be an angry black man. Right? That's that's the secret

in so much. So. They had the angry translator. At the press dinner, I believe, I believe it was, um, it was a pill from KMP. Yeah, like a bomb was say something and then peel would translate it an angry black man, boy, remember this? Yes. So they actually did one on the show. On the Key and Peele show itself. Let's just I mean, it's funny how art imitates life, which imitates art, right? I mean, it's this cyclical thing. So let's get into the art portion of it with Obama's anger translator.

And evening, my fellow Americans. Now, before I begin, I just want to say that I know a lot of people out there seem to think that I don't get angry. That's just not true. I get angry a lot. It's just the way I express passion is different from most. So just so there's no more confusion. We've hired

Luther here to be my anger translator Luthor. First off, Concerning the recent developments in the Middle Eastern region, I just want to reiterate our unflinching support for all people and the right to a democratic process. Hey, all y'all dictators out there. keep messing around and see what happens. Just see what happens. Watch,

also to the governments of Iran and North Korea. We once again urge you to discontinue your uranium enrichment programs mu Kim Jong Un until both y'all 86 Shit bitches Oh, come over there and do a thorough y'all. Please test me and see what happens. On the domestic front. I just want to say to my critics, I hear your voices and I'm aware of your concerns. So maybe you could chill the hell out like a second then maybe I can focus on some shit. You know?

That goes for everybody. You have an interesting you have an interesting take on that told me again. You thought that perhaps people were worried he was an angry black man. Secretly an angry black man? Are they fear of that? Yes. Fear of that because they thought behind the smile and well who's the white people? Okay, I'm gonna say this. This is the perception of black people. Oh, white people concerning Obama's good and the fear of all the good good

I did not take that at all. I've never heard this I in my core of whiteness. I don't feel it. I'll tell you what it was, to me it meant and still means is the guy doesn't have enough black credibility and needs a little toughening up a little, little gangster, little gangster narrative. So, yeah, he talks like this, but this is really, really what's going down and quite honestly, that's not much different than what Trump says in Trump language. Hey, hey, little man, a rocket man. Yes.

That's why I rang the bell. Luther actually sounds like true. Yeah, yeah. It's like, Obama thinks it and it's okay for him to think it. But you just can't say it. And I think that's why people really have it out for 45 Savage is that he actually said, you just say 45. Savage. For Trump. You've not introduced this on the show. I have you. Yeah. 45 seconds. Yes. Seriously, this is this is this is what I love is this is very

interesting. I reached, of course, there outliers, but in general, I don't think there were any white people were all in man. Yeah, well, there was issues, of course, and there was narrative in the media. But to me, this was something actually, to me. It made it it worked for him. I was like, yeah. Why don't you talk like that was actually kind of my can I remember this? Angry? Oh, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, I understand why he can't

do that. But last day you can be in America is an angry black man on the street. I understand. And I don't want to take away from your flow. But it's not pleased. It's just as interesting to me that you and we're generalizing. You say black people thought that's what white people thought about the black man. And I'm just saying, I don't think so. I don't think there was a majority of people

scared about him being an angry black man. I think they were scared of other things, which we didn't which were unknown, you know, his real background, you got this fuzziness of, of the birth certificate? Is he is he? Is he a Muslim? You know, there was a lot of shit being thrown in the air, angry black man, not one of the memes I remember, that's all doesn't doesn't know, that's just as good as the undercurrent of being a Marxist. That's the undercurrent of being maybe a sleeper cell terrorist.

You know, he's fueled by some kind of anger. That's what I'm saying. Okay, and let me again, I'm with that. And with that, let me say the anger manifests itself, as all he wants to destroy the American America or he's, he's the Antichrist or I mean, like, all of you think, Oh, yeah. All of that is true. Of course. It's it's deep seated in that anger. And let me let me as I say, I got I have to say this because we've never breached it when we

broach this topic before the angry black man. Black man has to be self conscious of how we're perceived not to come off as angry. And this is a real thing, because just say if I'm somewhere and worker was somewhere, and I have a scowl on my face from thinking like when I'm in thought, yes, cow. Yeah, people can't see you say you're right. Yeah, everything. Everything alright. Mmm hmm. That's nice. That was a real phenomenon has to be talked about? Yeah. And this is why

people say oh, why Black men so docile. It's called like if I raise my voice to say like, go crazy. Well in that fierce being really scared. You have to be I had an experience a couple of months ago was during the lockdown and I just come out of the grocery store and I and I drive into a very busy intersection and so but but of course it's it's Rona locked down so there's not not a lot of

cars there's cars and I got a I got a full green light. So I'm just moving and this this guy he starts you know, he's starts crossing the road look sees me and does one of those slow crosses. So he's crossing on red, you know, and it's just really slow. Now he looked he was he was dark skinned. i He could have been didn't look homeless look more Grifters but doesn't really matter. And as I just slow down, and the guys

just slipped, you know, I'm like, so I tap the horn BB. And the guy goes into a rage and jealous than angry black man. And for me the here's here's the reason why I wouldn't have brought it up otherwise, but I felt so comfortable. It didn't scare me at all. I think the show has influenced me. I'm like, Wow, all right, man, you go ahead, you wave your arms all you want, but I could see the other motorists because I stopped and open when Windows said, Hey, man, just chill out,

bro. Just follow the rules. We all got to do it. But I just I didn't feel scared at all. Which is new for me because I'm sure I would have in the past. And just to just to wrap this up, this is this. What? In black people's mind, especially black men. Yeah, the appearing as angry blasts was really what heightens the fear between cops, young black men, because it's like you coming into the situation? And what you can have one cop it's cool. It's like

Hey, bro, you know? Right, right. And then the next cop comes on life hasn't heard. I mean, do you know what the difference is between those cops? I have no idea. The one cop has done the work. No, you're exactly right. It's really true. It's just not the work that Robyn D'Angelo is is serving? Yeah, but you have experience with dealing with it. It's cultural. It's interesting. It's very cultural. I think that is a topic for the future we might want to expand

on because that's a really good one. And it's it's a meta, it's meta across everything. So to get to this angry black man that America feared, I felt this clip of this young black man who probably be about the same age as Brock Obama, maybe a little older, but maybe from the same generation, but he comes from a das lineage. Yeah, um, which is a huge difference. I mean, it makes a huge difference, as we're gonna hear later on in the show. But this is what America feared. Barack Obama may be

the first to tell us that it is manly to keep your word. Right. If you are a man, you keep your word. And now all the black people in this country are demanding and even black people in the whole world are demanding is that you keep your word. You told us we were free. Well then show us that we're free. You told us that there is justice equality for all in this country, you will then can stick to your word. And let us see the

justice and equality for all. Or else admit to us that you're not a man, you're a word you're afraid of us you're afraid to give us equal. You're afraid that if you give us equal ground that we will match you and we will override you. And if that's what you're afraid of us, tell us that just what you were afraid of. But don't keep hiding it from us and holding this up to us. And every time we ask you for something, you give us a

little bit of something and it's all tucked in. We don't want tokenism and then most black men in this wallet don't want charity. And yet still every time we ask you for something you give us a little piece a little piece you're playing games with us when I've seen my father have to put it well kinds of stuff. He was a big man, he raised a family he went down and he had to go around to the back door with his wife. without

asking for anything we're not asking for any favors. All we want is what's ours. Yeah, yep. So of course that so that's what they were afraid of or him being when you're that kind of black men are raised by that kind of black man. As my this sounds a lot like my father, I'm just gonna say that as in I did everything right and you still want to mess with me. And they thought that's behind that smile of Obama and the cool

as a cucumber demeanor Right? Was was lying that now other people have other things that you know that we talked about, you know, terrorists, things that nature, but I believe in black people's minds, we thought White people had that fear. And that's where a lot of criticism came from. So when you wanted to criticize him, you were aligning yourself with that thought. Well, I hope I made myself Yes, yeah, no, it's it's totally clear. But you also understand that I think

that that was much less in people's minds. I understand the undercurrent. No, no, no, I'm just explaining to you why he was given a pass and couldn't be criticized. Of course, white people didn't want to appear that way. What I just laid out and black people didn't want to appear align with that. So it's like no, no, very delicate, very delicate balance, but it worked. Yes. And he knew how to navigate that very well. To not play the race car but just like flashes like, let's go play.

Wow, there it is. Just a little little corner. All right. Um, so as we learn more and more about, um, Barry, we get to say he's the furthest thing from that. I mean he and I guess the people that put him in power knew that so you like you don't want to have a black man with the new codes. I mean, like, hey, they might have y'all but they felt safe that he wouldn't be that way. And it's maybe because this is his upbringing background to look into his upbringing and

background. We're gonna jump right into it. Yeah, we have a throwback clip from Judge Joe Brown. On Barry, as anybody black ever gone and checked out who it isn't. Went through school is Barry Soetoro, his stepfather and adoptive father, low low lol. Soto Toro, dad is one of the 20 richest men on the planet Earth. Obama is beneficiary of a trust fund. Along with his two half siblings. He is probably the richest man to ever occupy the White House. Lolo Soetoro was a major and Indonesian army

and a contractor with the CIA. What daddy did was run death squads for the Indonesian government. He was an executive vice president for Standard Oil and when he decided to set up his own company in Indonesia, where possibly the world's largest oil reserves are located. Imagine he used his position of having an active death squad it is proposal to

facilitate some of his business dealings. And now, interestingly enough, there are documented moments between George Herbert Walker Bush, who was head of the CIA at the time and Lolo Soetoro certain arrangements and they were frequent golf partners. And Lolo Soetoro used Goldman Sachs as its as his American financier, or financial banking institution. Yeah, it was really interesting to see that Wikipedia does not have any of that information on Lolo Sotero.

Not actually, you can't find any information on Harley, I mean, as JoJo Brown said and further clips, and if you want to hear more about that, go back to show 14 But as you said in on clips after that, that he had to go like to page 1415 on Google just on a Google search. Yeah, just just to buy anything. Oh, yes, exactly. Well, luckily, that was poor auto quality, because I think JoJo brown being interviewed in a restaurant over dinner, he did a studio interview. And he shared more

details on this. Not well publicized past of Barack Obama. And I will say this JoJo Brown. He's a very serious person. I mean, he's a judge. I mean, I don't take him to be a hater. I mean, because that's, I mean, that's the word right? I mean, he's not Obama hater. But if you do your homework, you'll start to find some of these things have a lot of validity soon. So I guess we can get into the cleaner version audio cleaner of a bomb was past one.

And the last one number 44. and wonderful to add 43 Bush and

Obama. Well, their pictures are bush with his arm around eight year old Barack Obama because his stepdad he adopted daddy Lolo Soetoro and done a lifetime where the business with the Bush's Uncle George Herbert Walker, after whom George Herbert Walker Bush Bush, one president was named, founded Halliburton in 1946 and Oklahoma, and Lolo Soetoro had been internationally Executive Vice President for Standard Oil there was talk of him being a CIA as well yes, he ran the

death squads for the Indonesian army on his own call. Anyone could be assassinated. So when George Herbert Walker Bush became head of the CIA on to the Ford administration he just got with his old buddy in the oil business Lolo Soetoro and pulled off the hitch Oh, yeah. Well, so reason why I'm laying this out is people

like what's the what does have to do a thing. I want to lay this narrative out so when we listen to the clips after this, we can see see it through the lens of possibly Barack Obama being a control asset slash, I hate to use this word because it's a loaded term Manchurian Candidate. I don't mean, in the terms of he's gonna go crazy and do something, but just being controlled from the from the onset.

And having done a lot of this work for no agenda, it's probably worth mentioning that it's gonna sound pretty crazy. But all of these connections really do make sense. And you can find that I'm putting stuff in the show notes right now about the sub Taros. And the Indonesian massacres between 65 and I think 9090 And it's this is not fantasy and the CIA stuff is also I think demonstrably true. And the far more interesting facts and and branch on that

tree is the Dunham's is maternal grandparents. Oh, yeah. I think it's, yeah, his grandfather and grandmother had ties to governmental agencies. Oh, I guess, um, let's just go ahead and let Joe roll. He's on. He's on a roll. So let's let him continue. And even some of the richest people in America don't make that why? Because when his stepdad he died, he was one of the 1015 richest men on earth. And he left everything in a

trust fund operated out of Indonesia. So the American government can't touch it didn't make Barack Obama 1/3 beneficiary for the assets of one of the 1015 richest men on earth. So we got a game run on us. So you know, that little thing that bush W does when he gets with Michelle, THEY GIGGLE and he gives a candy. The inside thing is that supposed to be the same kind of candy he used to give to her husband when he was 678 years old. Ah, wow, that's so creepy. I hadn't heard that one. I liked

that. Yeah, they're always buddy buddy. But that's so terrorist. Pateros so e t o r o they were they were they were all in the oil business with the bushes. Same same criminal enterprise. Yeah, cuz you got the best patto old killer rabbit hole. It's YES to go down if you start following that trail, because this ties into many historical events, one being in Dallas, but I'll leave it at that. All right. Now he can't run. But you know, George H. Walker Bush.

Remember where he was on the day JFK was assassinated. He's the only guy just the only guy who can't remember why was it? And I will say this is just a point. George Bush Senior, let's just call him that. Probably ran this country from, in my opinion, from 1980. Onward. And to Trump got his office. I truly believe that to be so he, I mean, you think they say um, Reagan's mental capacity was diminishing, even when he

was in office, who was his vice president, George Bush. And then you hear the stories of Clinton and Bush in action and they hold the whole Iran Contra MENA Arkansas. Boy was a soldier in the empire. Right? So you really didn't have a choice. If you think about it, you really didn't have a choice. Because if Clinton is Bush's guy, and they're running against each other, either way, it's gonna be ran by Bush. And then Bush runs his son against

Clinton's vice president. Yep. And they kind of just called it like, now Bush won. Pretty well get the hanging chads the supreme court called it right. Well, who cares? I am. Anyway, um, and they following that you have Obama come in which Obama has clear ties to George Bush Senior. So we and if you notice how long this flag stayed at half staff headlamps, you know? Yes. How much cool. George Bush

Senior hat in this country? Oh, yeah. Massive. So I just want to say that because it's that's critical to what power structure Barack Obama really came from. Also, it makes it very understandable why my longtime CIA uncle had no problem voting for Barack Obama, the same company, same organization. And that go even further that goes to show you why the intelligence agencies really has won on for Donald Trump. You know, there's really no bigger man who's a conspiracy

theorist than a black man who's a conspiracy theorists. This is this is cultural tell me it ain't true. Moses is cultural because there's so many ain't going to go back to to vote for me Claudette Colvin and there's so many of these, which would be if I said that now and publicly blue like, amen. It's we're always uses conspiracy theory and nut job because we always knew black ink existed and it's like, okay who

employs and empowers black ink? Yep. So it's like so you have to question everything, everything calms down because like, What What's your motive? What? Why are you trying to steer me? How are you trying to handle this? And this is this is why we we clicked so well, when we first started talking, you know, it's like I think like that all the time. That's I just conditioned myself. That's what I do. But I didn't grow up necessarily having to do that or

thinking that, but that's why we connect. I love it. Yeah. And that's how I had to grow up because like, everybody smiles in your face as your friend you get that kind of thing not to be distrusting of people, but you also and this is why I said Barack Obama dropping out of the sky. Yeah, that's like flag that's a red flag right there. That goes totally against it. Just say if we had a community. Oh, you want to know who's passing through your town? Your

you know your neighborhood? Who's the winner? Who's he connected with? Just say that, like his family. Got Married? Because his grandma. Oh, he's Yeah, he's like, Oh, he's so so Hamlet's. Oh, no, that was Hamilton's. So for not him for him not to be vouched for, and you showed up and basically vetted, he wasn't vetted at all right at all. But in hindsight, we had to start doing some digging. And that's what Joe Joe Joe Brown is doing, and

will continue to do. But I will say this. Now, Joe, Joe Brown is a huge proponent of black masculinity and black men. So if it was no fire there, he wouldn't say anything about the smoke. Right. So obviously, he has access to information that emboldened him to come out and say these things, knowing he could be, you know, removed, right. If if they're not true, right, so I'm just wondering, the lack of visibility. Yeah, the lack of pushback on him on that kind of shows that people like, quiet.

Yeah, shut up. Shut up. Yeah, well, we won't shut up Joe. We're gonna let Joe get to you and clip three. Barak grandmother has been acknowledged as being the woman that operated the channels through which CIA money went to the Southwest Pacific. So she introduced her daughter, who had just had Berry, Barack to Lolo Soetoro, and they got married and Lolo Soetoro adopted Barack Obama, the name was changed to

Barry Soetoro. Now when he went to high school and a why he I know about that high school almost sent Well, my oldest son to it, I could afford it, but I didn't think he observed deserved it. When a years ago the tuition was $95,000 a year not including room and board. When Obama went there. I've talked to two of his classmates they independently state that the tuition not including room and board was 45,000. Now Business Insider reports his income for 2017 at over 200

million net that's after taxes deductions write offs. For this last year 2018 They reported it as 570 plus million dollars in s after all deductions tax write Trump doesn't make that Miss. Big Bank Barry. Nice. Damn. So people say Well, Joe, saw you got an axe to grind. There's other people that were sound nice alarms, and this is from the other side of the political sphere. And this is caaci age of four stages of completion. I know they released a report as claimed that the 44th President

of the United States is a CIA creation. American investigative journalist Wayne Matson says Barack Obama as well as his family, including his parents, stepfather and grandmother had connections with this CIA. America tonight, if you feel the same energy that I do, if you feel the same urgency that exceptional already promised for the disillusion and change from the status quo, these are all what helped Barack Obama to become president two years ago, but now the reality seems to be

something far from that. And what is being called a bombshell investigative journalist Wayne Madsen has revealed in a report that in 1983, President Obama worked for the Business International Corporation which was a CIA front. That company used to conduct seminars with the world's most powerful

leaders as agents abroad with CIA espionage activities. Madson says this intelligence connection runs in Obama's family, Obama's maternal grandmother, Madelyn Dunham was one of the first female vice presidents of the Bank of Hawaii in Honolulu. The report says this bank was also a CIA friend for funneling money to oppressive dictators and rulers, such as former Indonesian President Suharto, who came into power through a CIA backed coup.

You know, having grown up in the Netherlands, I know a lot about the Indonesia story. Because it was a Dutch colony. Okay. And yes, there's a lot there. Yeah, there is. And I will say this, a lot of the topics I really don't dive into about him or around him, because they're, they're non starters. I mean, you have half the people that are going to believe whatever they believe in the other half is going to be

opposed to that. So I mean, like semester, I didn't really get into, but the things that you can prove his worth, and it makes sense. Yeah. And how protective the intelligence agencies were up him. It just kind of explains itself. I mean, Operation Mockingbird media supporting him Hello. It's quite clear what's going on here. But I'm laying this out to say, Okay, if we look at this, say this is true, which I believe I wouldn't be presenting if I didn't think it was some truth

to it. Then we have to look at him totally different and how he was presented to us as that way because we talked about infiltration, and all of the black established groups or groups that were established those so called, representing black people. So he's like a one man entity, right? He's a one man organization, but he just he was so polarizing that he drew people around him. And it's like, now he has this huge protector it huge protect realm of protection around him that he

was bulletproof. Yes. And they use him to push any agenda that they want it to. Yes. Without any question. And I think David Axelrod had a big role in this. That was his one of his campaign managers. Yep. Dan Durbin? Yes. Dick Durbin. And also John Brennan. I mean, John Brennan was, you know, he was kind of Obama's shadow guy, you know, always from very early on.

Yeah. And he's the one and Dick Durbin is the one that told by his admission, I didn't want to bloat the clip list too much, but just for this one little factoid, but he tells a story of Yeah, I told Barry at those speech that he gave, you're gonna run for president or you need to run for president. It's like he was like, told, and we started to hear how his path was laid out for him going to this certain district, and, you know,

it's just like it was everything was laid out. It was for him to be where he was at when he was there. That path was paved, and people got pushed out of the way quite harshly here and there. Yes, and I have the stories I support. But let's wrap up with the CIA narrative with the second goal 1500 9660s, Obama's father had been selected by the leader of Kenyan African national union, Tom Boyer, to receive scholarship and be airlifted to the University of Hawaii. CIA files indicate that

and boy was an important agent of influence for the agency. The airlift was a CIA operation to train future agents of influence in Africa, which was a battleground between the US, the Soviet Union and China for influence. As a Kenyan citizen in the University of Hawaii. Obama's father who was already married, and had a child with another on the way and Kenya met Obama's mother and Dunham in a Russian class in Hawaii. This meeting eventually led to their marriage. Barack Obama's mother

Dunham was divorced when his son was four. She married Lolo Soetoro, after meeting him at the East West Center at the University of Hawaii, the center affiliated with CIA activities in the Asia Pacific region, but we worked for Tim Geithner's father, Peter at the Ford Foundation with a better widely believed to be a CIA front and our grandpa Matson is questioning that if Barack Obama, as I suspected was subjected to the CIA project, either by brainwashing or being

part of it people it'll become problematic for an American president. He says if Obama has been brainwashed, then he can be controlled. And if he was simply part of this project, then he can be bribed. I like hearing Tim Geithner in there who later returned as Secretary of the Treasury, I believe. Yes, there were childhood friends. Now that just works. What are the chances? What's the chances that Tim Geithner could not be more white bread? I mean, that's a

total dweeby douche. So he was out there so interesting. There's two points that were made here. Um, one there was his parents met in a Russian class. Yeah. Kenyan. Why always can you go to Hawaii? I think Russian why would they study in Russian for hmm, could that you know, could that have some Marxist slash communist undertones with

it? Very possible his his mother be a honeypot? You know, that was put into those classes to see who she could net and you know, you have to ask these questions when you know how these organizations work. Well also, the East West exchange I'm just looking through some old CIA documents was an exchange program between the United States and the USSR so that that makes sense why she would be in a Russian class. Right and at the East West exchange the East West Center in Hawaii

Yes. With this key figure from Kenya, y'all yeah it's fantastic it all fits I just part I didn't know this is good like the East West Center stuff that's good. I'll see homeland I know how it works yeah. Really quite accurate surprisingly accurate Yes. Anything to get the job done so you have Mr. Brock Obama Sr. Oh, one more thing that Ford Foundation which that comes up several times as some kind of CI connected organization or

entity. So as a as an aside the fort I was just doing some research today on Garza and what's her name? Rometty the other two Black Lives Matter co founder Matey and colors, not colors, colors. I'm done with colors colors is the magnet. Yeah, but I went further into Garza cars. I think it is LSU, Michigan, heavy, heavy funding from the Ford Foundation in a whole bunch of different nonprofits and we're talking millions. Really, really? Yes. You get me started Mo and I just

go off and do my own homework just for myself. I mean, that's instead of watching TV, I'm like, Oh, let me investigate this. Now you see what I know. You got you got rabbit fever. I know. I know. I know the fever I know it. So Brock Obama senior this mysterious character this kind of used in paint it to however way they want to paint them. They wrote this interesting book on him. I think this is doing

the SEC during the first term. But that gives some background that where there was none on Barack Obama, Barack Obama senior and This is CNN the other Brock Obama.

He was part of Africa's independence generation and a brilliant economist and he was also a polygamist and an alcoholic who ended up becoming the father of an American President Barack Obama senior has been somewhat of a mystery to most even to his own son, President Obama, but biographer Sally Jacobs did the research and discovered unbelievable information about a man who lived a rather complicated life

here to discuss her book. The other Baroque the bold and reckless life of President Obama's father is Sally Jacobs. Sally, thanks for coming on the show. First question to you what inspired you to look into the life of Barack Obama senior. But clearly, there was not a great deal known about him. As the campaign went on, it seemed that this was a person that we

needed to know more about. There was a fair amount of information out there public about the President wouldn't be president's mother, but the father was an unclear figure. Okay, so I'm looking at this author, by the way, I want to see what Yes, please do because that sounds like a spook Sally. Sally does sound like she's in the basement. They're tapping up some books for for the agency. Okay.

But the disdain they have for Mr. Brock Obama senior is going to be even he's an alcoholic and appalling, right. She basically read the Amazon review, I just looked at it. That's exactly what I want to ask this question. And in this, you're going to see how much this vein this is this is what you will call Karen's to Karen's I hate to use that term but it gets kind of fitting

here. Watch how they tear down Brock Obama senior Oh firstly in and off what he's a polygamist and an alcoholic right right this is a question I always had what is the difference when are polygamous and semi in a poly Emery polyamorous polyamorous relationship and why is one acceptable than the other but I'm just gonna put that out there what they notice if you could spin this if he was a favorable character, they could say oh he was in how you say that word again poly

polyamorous, polyamory polyamorous? They will say this they will say he was in a polyamorous relationship as often struggle with battled with a controlled substance abuse. Right? You see other media paints name that is so good. I'm just looking up just looking at some terms here. So polyamory many several and more love practice of or desire for intimate relationships with more than one partner. Okay, now

let's look up polygamy. Just make sure we see the practice customer having more than Oh, that's really the marriage part. Okay, so it's they have marriage they have polyamorous now with polyamorous marriages. Sure. And I mean, this is I guess I know I'm going off here. But I'm just want to address these things that we come across them that is centered with the man is wrong. When a woman says she wants to husband, okay, it's always always a winner.

I just don't think he's very accepting of them to catch this man in this way. Yes, they should check their damn privileges what they should do. Right. They should really check really shoes. Yeah, definitely. Well, let's continue on what I'm bashing Brock. You mentioned in your book that there was a chance that actually some evidence that that he actually wanted to put his son now President Obama up for adoption? What can you tell us about that?

What I found is it's in his immigration document. There is a memo in which Obama senior tells the foreign student advisor at the University of Hawaii where he was enrolled, that his wife and Dunham was making arrangements with the Salvation Army to put their baby up for adoption. The baby was unborn at the time. Did they actually do that? It's unclear. And Dunham had every reason to do it. She was 18 years old. She was having

a mixed race baby at a time that intermarriage was very rare. On the other hand, it didn't seem to be the kind of thing she would do. She took her responsibility seriously. Obama

senior had every reason to put the baby up for adoption. At the time he was renewing his visa or hoping to if immigration officials saw him as a polygamist with a mixed race baby, that might not have been the best profile to put forward and he had family members have said that they they don't believe there was ever any evidence or any thoughts about putting Barack Obama up for adoption. But do you believe that they were actually considering it, given the the evidence that you've seen?

I think it's more likely that Obama senior told them that to make them think that the baby was going to vanish. It gave a cleaner profile for him to immigration officials. The only thing I do wonder about is that he said the Salvation Army. The Salvation Army did have a maternity home in Honolulu. It's interesting to me that he mentioned that. Maybe they talked about it. I didn't go ahead with it. I don't think they made arrangements to actually do it.

You see how they gave the mom a pass? Oh, yeah. Oh, it's pay attention to their white man black. Wow. By the way, this is Sally H. Jacobs is the only book she ever wrote. Sally is the only book she's written any other books. Interesting. But she's a touted reporter. This smacks of a hit piece and is he's not like his father. And to elicit I know people like man while you're kind of reaching this, that you're gonna hurt yourself. You're, you're reaching out,

you're reaching, reaching right up in my field here. I'm loving the reach. Well, listen to this next clip. Part Three. He speaks so sweetly about his mother. Do you think if he was raised by his father, he would be president today. You know, this was certainly speculative myself. I think it would be unlikely Obama Jr. was a very brilliant and brave person. In some respects. He was extremely self destructive also. I think he wasn't a very nurturing person and was rather

self absorbed. I think Obama Jr. Might have chosen a very different life would be A different person in many respects if he'd grown up with that kind of a paternal figure. Oh geez Did you hear that? Oh yeah. Excuse me. Dad raised please check your female privilege their holy crap. Oh, man. That's a hell of a question. This is a dad raised him doom that you would think he would have been POTUS? No, no, no, no it's even though his dad came from Kenya to come all the way

to Harvard. By way of Hawaii he was saying basically pulled himself up by his bootstraps. I mean, that's the way the story is written. Nah, Heaton. Ah. So this must have been Stanley's business. Stanley Stanley, and he years he's he writes lovely, Stanley. Um, so but that not so much. I guess let's just go ahead and let that go and finish them off. Let's let's finish bashing Brock. anything positive? Anything redeeming about senior?

Absolutely. For starters, he was hugely successful in one sense. He made it from a very poor, simple childhood in Western Africa, to Harvard, you know, he was really a brilliant economist. Also, his story was deeply entwined with that of Kenya of the moment. He was a fierce advocate for the African people. He was not happy with the way the government was going. And he spoke out very boldly against the administration of Jomo Kenyatta. He did not feel that the little

man was getting his fair do. And Obama senior was very courageous about that, at some personal risk. And just very quickly, what do you think President Obama will think of this book of yours about his father? I think you'll find a lot that he didn't know in it. I cannot imagine it would be a very easy book to read. But I think any child who doesn't know their parent might want to know the true story about him. That's my hope. Wow. Wow, that what a great move. What a great move. Don't

look over here. This is a dead end. Amy redeemable qualities. That's what she said about? Well, he was a brilliant economist. I will they keep reminding us really. He was truly a brilliant economist. But obviously, you know, he was so brilliant that he was just a total loser and a failure. He was a rabble rouser. So that's always good. If you want to stir up trouble in Kenya, so they're all for that. But then she says, Will he? You know, what would you think? What would

Barack Obama think about the book about his father? And she said, I think he'll find a lot of surprises, which that surprised me because of the way the narrative went. Brock Obama wrote a tell all books Yeah. Yeah. The dreams from my father's I would think he would have more information than Sally. Unless Sally has some resources and resources that we are not aware of. All right, brought know how to file says she does, according to the court

and hurt. Speaking of that book, we have a Baroque reading from the dreams of my excuse me Dreams from My Father. There was only one problem my father was missing. And nothing that my mother or grandparents could tell me could obviate that single unassailable fact. Their stories didn't tell me why he had left. They couldn't describe what it might have been like had he stayed like the janitor Mr. Reed, or the black girl who turned up dust as she raced down a Texas road. My father became a

prop in someone else's narrative. Attractive Papa, the alien figure with the heart of gold. The mysterious stranger who saves the town and wins the girl but a prop nonetheless. Wow, some honesty there. What a prop nonetheless. Wow. Wow, that's brutally honest, really, brutally honest. In context, great to hear that. So we hear we seen his dad get bashed. Now let's listen to in comparison, how they lavish praise. And Dunham. We are backing out to our occasional series of reports on

the presidential candidates families. Looking tonight at Senator Barack Obama who's made his life story and his upbringing a part of his campaign. He's written and spoken openly about the mother who raised him the father who left him, both of whom of course left behind a big impression. NBCs Lee Cowen has our report tonight on family ties.

I have not had my parents now for over a neck. The beginning of Barack Obama's improbable journey began with an improbable union, an African man named Barack and a white Kansa named Stanley and wed at the dawn of the 60s when interracial marriages were still illegal in many places. He had lasted though just three short years and their lives not much longer. Obama's father was killed in a car accident in Africa in 1982.

His mother stricken with ovarian cancer, died in 19. 95 It would be wonderful to have the Council of parents, it would be wonderful to be able to admit mistakes. Or just get some encouragement. He said he has to rely on what they left him. And each left him something very different. Obama's father abandoned him at age two, he left first for Harvard and eventually returned to his native Kenya. To this day, the elder Barak remains an example for the younger, but of how not to live.

While still bashing dad, that story was set man that's beautiful that that that narrative was crafted creative posted on on Wikipedia and good to go. Now Adam asked me why that narrative was set that way, you know more, I'd like to ask you why why did they put set the narrative that way? So he could identify as well, so black males could identify with him not having a father. So single mothers could identify with him with his mother. And with him

makes makes him also know a little less scary. Yeah, relatable. And now he's gonna be he's a black man, but he was raised in the corporate, white, white society. So the anger you don't have to worry about He's alright. He's okay. And at the same time, they had to paint him as a poor black kid from Chicago. That was this. The product? Like the poor black kid from Chicago bid, that's the funniest one. When I was on the south side.

Yeah, that's the that's the that's the, they tried to do it with the same thing with Kemal Harris, right being from Oakland, and she's, like, not from Oakland, maybe we're not the Oakland like you're using that term. So no, it's the same thing. It's like she's coming from the block in Oakland. Right. So you see how they're setting this up? That is and and is good and Brock is bad. And he's a single product of a single parent home grew up on the south side of Chicago with a

white mom. Yeah. I mean, this is the narrative if you ask people that are not studied on Brock Obama that say oh, he's from Chicago. Not Kansas. Not not these are the places why roofspace his roots are actually he's to be honest, if I if I'm looking at his roots coming in from his mom's side, he's part of the either white supremacist Obama's got a lot or lots of rich royal blood in the veins in he's like 14 cousins with Dick Cheney. So obviously, okay.

Black child, but not from lineage of slavery mom named Stanley, his name's Hussein, who's got a cousin is gonna be vice president one day, and he's lucky enough to make precedent that was, and you know, the Bush is a great country or what Mo? Oh, man, look at what's possible. It's crazy. I'm taking the under on that. I mean, as far as that happening. So let's continue with the NBC. Nothing tradition. I watch myself for some of the things that I know, ended up

hurting him. Too much pride, on inability to listen to other people. Those are things that I guard against in myself. But in that fatherless void, stood his young mother, who remains more influential than anyone. Yeah. How, for example, when Brian Williams showed him on the cover of Newsweek for the very first time, your way senators reactions, was not about himself, you know, it makes me think of my mom. And in the fact that she's not around.

Obama's half sister, Maya remembers that there was little traditional about their mother. I think it is interesting to look at the patterns how our mother started in the Midwest, and ended up in Indonesia and how he started in Hawaii in essence and, and returned to the Midwest. Remember that friend who knew Stanley and early see her in him all the time, the passion he brings? I think, a lot of that's

something he learned from his mother's knee. When he needed the most, when I was writing that speech on race, I'm the son of a black man from Kenya and a white woman from Kansas. Her memory loomed over me as this is something that she would trust, a reality check. He still sees you know at night, if I'm saying a prayer night Send out maybe a little message to my mother and hopefully she somewhere can hear. You know, of course, without without mo facts, I never would

have caught what was going on here. This was totally shaping him to be completely relatable to the black man as well. I mean, just by the parental situation and then totally pushing all of that towards how great his mom was. I mean, solidifying the matriarchal structure is genius. What always say about our community is the matriarchy, or patriarchy. So yeah, to get to get black women to buy in. They had to relate to this to them on a single parent level issue.

Sure. And we even heard on a previous show, Michelle Obama refer to herself as a single mother. That was one of my favorites. I mean, they're pushing that narrative of single mothers single child happened. How did you win again, Tarik didn't have that clip. If you want to hear flow, to say it for a second. Please, please, looking at new models of getting farmers markets to, you know, create buses and drive into communities that are

underserved. So we have to deal with the question of access. And believe me as a busy single mother, single as a busy mother Rupes. It's the narrative made no the narrative they're pushing. Yeah, it's in the back of her mind. And the truth just came up. Oh, crap was used to say that exactly. 1000 video from the Ann Dunham so Cerezo Endowment Fund, and I thought it'd be interesting just to hear a little little take on that.

Our mother was a scholar, and she believed very much in learning from books and she could spend hours in a library but she also believed in learning from people who are committed to honing their craft from people who walk in the streets, and she felt like the whole world was a classroom.

When Ann Dunham Soetoro applied for her PhD in anthropology at the University of Hawaii at Manoa, she had already invested significant time and energy to improve the quality of life for craftspeople in rural Indonesia. In the introduction to a dissertation is what I found a very interesting statement. She said this work is the result of 14 years of research in Java. And it was perfectly true. She knew that place inside out and was driven by the desire to partner with others to create

lasting change. While working at the Ford Foundation, States Agency for International Development. She collaborated closely with the range of nongovernmental organizations to support programs addressing women and poverty. US AI D is is the big tip off the Ford Foundation, of course, but the USA ID is that is the United States. International aid division. That's that's where we fund nongovernmental organizations and countries from that, who were there of course,

sending back intelligence that is that's the fund. That's the one you want the money from. And his mother reminds me a lot of her name slips my mind just that fast. wrote for 16 magazine. Ah, what is her name? It'll come to me. Okay. I'm big, tall feminist in the 60s. Oh, yes, of course. The CIA woman. We both know her name was Anita Bryant. No, no, it was the other one. It was Gloria Steinem. That's it. Yes. His mom gives me the Gloria Steinem, Bob. Oh, yeah, I can see that.

The I came to her and like, can you write for her? Oh, yeah. No. Gloria Steinem was the age makes sense. Right, a good ghost. Gloria Steinem. Absolutely known she was a CIA agent. She admits it. Were agent. Yeah, she would operate if she did stuff for them. Yeah. So we're fast forwarded from his childhood. And when we know about we went through how he was raised by an Indonesian,

Kansas. And we fast forward to him going to college. And at Harvard, we have an eyewitness account from Dr. Randy short, which we played some clips from him before. And I like to call him Dr. Messi. Because he always, always given us more even further than what you expect from him with his shocking insight on Obama at Harvard, but I think he was placed here. I don't think we I don't think we elected him. I think selected.

And I saw him being selected 29 years ago, walking through the law school on a weekend that how Obama manipulated the white students to make him head of the Harvard Law Review. We exchange for him to stab all the black students in the back. And I happen to stumble into a meeting of the Federalist Society. And what I heard was a man saying how much he hated black people and how black people were stupid and how they were despicable. And how he could control them and he knew how they felt about

him. And I was listened to this person, and I'm telling you my spirit at the sign of the black man about six foot six, one, bisexual, biracial. So I walk quickly through the Harkins common which is a student union at the law school and saw Obama. The audience turned and looked at me, we looked at each other. I was so angry at the stuff he said about black folks. But I realized while I'm out number this what what difference can I

make? So I stormed out the building, and I asked some people who some collateral in there, he realized, like Richard Nixon on crack, he's the president. And that's where I heard the name Obama, and that if he were made head of the Harvard Law Review, he would keep the blacks in check. For the most ultra conservative agenda, whatever they want to do. He said, Because black people would look at him, and they trust him, although he wasn't one of them.

Wow. He's so this is Randy. He's a radio guy, right? Randy short? No, Dr. Randy shore, he was he's a doctor. He's the one that wrote the news on our show about the Depo Provera shot. No, yes. Harming black women. Right. So he, I mean, he he's, you know, he's said considering, you know, Valley resource in a, quote unquote, black conscious community or black. Not mainstream community, like conscious community. That's a good one, like that. So Randy, here to give us a statement on Brock Obama, and

I'm just gonna take it on face value. I'm not gonna say I don't have no reason not to believe him. But that's a very inflammatory statement, but it aligns with his membership in Skull and Bones, which you you said before about him being a white supremacist? Well, the Skull and Bones is the preeminent. It's the clients that, by the definition that we use the white supremacy is the club. And for he's not in the black man's skull and bones, what we call it the Boulais.

He's actually in Yeah, he's actually in the skull and bones. So the Illuminati, yes, yes. So we had to, he has to have some understandings of how this world has to work to be in to be in that group. So I think he, this is why he's such a moderate because on one side, he's been

pulling in one direction to the right. But then to maintain his cover or maintain his credibility, he has to let herself fall by the left and NAS reason why he chose Chicago as his home one of the blackest cities in America outside of Detroit, maybe Washington, DC, um, his wife has strong roots in the community. Her father has strong roots in the community. So it just made sense. And then he needs this, like, start building up on those credentials. You have over

there. I don't know how connected they last how long. It is a connection. I think there was a path. You know, there were people there who saw a pathway within the in the state government, that would be a pathway for Obama to be dead, because I mean, the Democrats pretty much run Chicago, we said this before. The pocket of power they have so pretty much whoever they want to win certain elections. They can give them the win when Lori Lightfoot, that just proves it, doesn't it?

Yeah. So I think he had to ingrain himself in Chicago society, and that brings him to Reverend Wright's church. Yes. The controversy started with words spoken by the Reverend Jeremiah Wright in his sermons. In one of them he blames America for a long history of military policies that he says cause the September 11 2001 terrorist attacks. We bombed Hiroshima Nagasaki than the 1000s in New York and dependents, and we never batted an eye.

Most Americans would not normally have heard about these sermons without Reverend Wright's connection to Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama. right is the retired Pastor of Trinity United Church of Christ, where Obama is a member of Obama has called right his spiritual mentor and the man who brought him to Christ. But once the fiery pulpit remarks were made public in March, and widely disseminated on the internet, Obama condemned them. In a

speech he called Rights view of the US. It's profoundly distorted. Reverend Wright commented on that Monday. politicians say what they say and do what they do, based on electability, based on sound bites, based on polls, right says the black church is invisible and misunderstood by what he called the dominant culture, meaning white America.

This is not an attack on Jeremiah Wright has nothing to do with Senator Obama isn't an attack on the black church launched by people who know nothing about the African American religious tradition. This I think this this, this revelation was one of the first videos I believe, to kind of go what we then wouldn't even know what to call it but viral on YouTube. And that's why it hadn't addressed I mean, of course, there was some media outlets playing it, questioning it. I think they already were

prepared for it. But people had questions. And so they had to build something around that and smother this, I guess. And with the right situation, this with that fear the angry black man again, it's like, oh, that's yes. Now I get the angry black man. But yeah, that that scared people. That way. Right. Right. was talking. Yeah, that scared people. So I'm just saying so. Two things. He said there one. He said that people don't understand the black church.

When I heard this. I was like, I heard that before. I mean, it wasn't shocking to me. I think this is part of why people congregate the way they do. Because certain truths are certain things that are perceived to be true by that community can be voice without repercussions. Right? It's like okay, when I went to church, looking around, okay, it's not black people. All right now. Well, we can talk. All right now we can go it's the barbershop effect the same thing, right?

You can look around like Okay, now we can really let loose so when he said that it didn't really I've never heard before, I mean, for coming from that type of preacher because they're not every preacher is like that, but you have those fire and brimstone. People that bring that kind of narrative. Sure. What I want to do is and this is all and we can do it on shows like this. I want to listen to Reverend Wright's comments, because all you heard was god damn America.

We never never we never really saw the full thing unless you know, you know, even YouTube was was clip just to say the horrible things. Yeah, that's, that's why we have a podcast so we can roll it all out. So I want to hear this almost a minute, 30 minute portion of that sermon in context, so you can hear what he was actually saying. And the United States of America government, when it came to treating her citizens of Indian descent, fairly, she failed. She

put them on reservations. When it came to treating her citizens of Japanese descent fairly. She failed. She put them in internment prison camps. When it came to treating the citizens of

African descent family, America failed. She put them in chains, the government, put them on slave quarters, put them on action blocks and blocks, put them in cotton fields, put them in inferior schools, put them in substandard housing, put them in scientific experience, put them in the lowest paying jobs, put them outside the equal protection of the law kept him out of their racist Bassiana higher education and locked him

into positions of hopelessness and helplessness. The government gives in the droves, build bigger prisons passes a three strike law and then wants us to see God bless America. No, no, no, not God bless America. God damn America that's in the Bible for killing innocent people. Damn America. Citizen. Human Ah, okay. Yeah, hopefully that puts this statement into context. He didn't come out the bat saying God damn America. I would have liked longer but

she's like fine, fine people on both sides. I mean, if you only see a little bit and you don't get The whole context everything that was said then you really miss out on what he was saying which obviously how can you disagree with with with up until he starts god damn America but even that makes sense in context.

But in the cotton a full context I want to make a three minute clip what he was saying was by the standard of the Bible, all these kingdoms in the Bible that didn't do the people right God took God damn right god damn them yeah and the literal term he like fire and brimstone okay well like them on the face of the earth this is really telling and I wanted to add to that he was reading that

I heard him do a prompter flub twice. Yeah, yeah. And I'm not sure he I'm sure he goes off prompter all the time. But I mean, it's not like he's just a fiery preacher who comes out of his, you know, straight from God to His to his mouse, but he was reading it, but it's kind of it's kind of sad. I mean, there comes the angry black man bit, I guess because what he's saying was, is the total is totally on message for

what what what we've discussed what we see is the problem. But it's, he had to go he was the he was he was he probably he was probably, he was probably seen as an asset who would really help and somehow, I'm just gonna go out on a limb. Maybe Fox News, or one of these outfits just started slamming the crap out of the god damn America, god damn America. And that became the narrative and he had to go then he had to go, then he got

like, you got to go. Sorry. Obama even came to his defense a little bit in the beginning if I recall. He did it got too hot right now. I'm sure the Democratic Party was like, gotta let him Yeah, you gotta let him go. But Brock Obama went and be the person that he was politically if he was anchored by that same Church in Chicago, so yeah, it's like it gives him one hand takes the other How did he do that? Reverend Wright? Was that how did he do it?

How did it How did what happened to Reverend Wright? Did he just melt away into the background? Yeah, he was. Nobody's above Barack Obama. So once he was bad

for Barack Obama, he was bad for black people. And he was cast away now Reverend Wright has some interesting background himself because he was like nurses something for one of the presidents or something so it's like when you hear this man Um, talk if you want to look that up so nothing is on his wiki page but um, when you hear this man talk about god damn America it's not like he's some ah a person that hates America or never believed in it. I think when black man gets to a certain age

they get no disillusion. Like when I put all my energy into being a good like the man was saying that the fear of the angry black man like we did everything right. And you say you you to be a man, you got to keep your word you said is equal country. What's the problems? Right, right. But yeah, Reverend Wright has government he was in the military. And he there's a picture of him and one of the Presidents I can't Well, he actually he actually served three presidents. He's with

three I know there was one for sure. But John Johnson he sort of Johnson that's the nurse part. And he also worked with Bill Clinton of course. But that made it seem like this ferric figure Wow. And you know how that's so interesting. I in my mind, I'd written Jared and the Reverend Jeremiah first of all, Reverend, so when Yeah, we don't really know where he's coming from. When we know he knows what side the bread is buttered on Lionel mommies, they always give me a biscuit on my birthday.

But but can't can't deny that message. The message was right I mean it would I bet I'm more convinced now than ever that he was supposed to be a part of it and just screwed up had to go yes, but this is brought going back to the right like I said he had to walk the center line. Yeah. And it's you got the revenue errors I mean, not miss river error but the bill error handling now you got this angry Farrakhan type preacher saying,

God damn America, it's like, hey, like, slow it down. You need to write a speech and things over well, not right. You need to read one. Yeah, well read one. So Brock Obama, I mean, excuse me, we have a clip of Larry elders. He's talking about the sweet path that was laid out for Barack Obama. I mean, we got to

consider you Larry elders. He's a conservative. So I mean, obviously he has an obvious bone to pick with Brock Obama, but I think this is a fair This is a fair assessment of how things were laid out for Barry, Obama misled Americans for his own political benefit. David Axelrod writes in his new book, I'm just not very good at both. Obama told Axelrod after Ron writes that he knew Obama was in favor of same sex marriage. Axelrod admits to counseling

Obama to conceal his position for political reasons. And of course, let's get back to it. So Obama then moves to Chicago, not from there. He joined the trendy church because of the his desire for political connections. And he decides to run for state senate because the incumbent decided to run for another office. she changes her mind decided to keep her office.

Obama said I'm sorry, I'm staying in the race. Obama didn't challenge all the signatures he had to file to run for reelection, and essentially got her kicked off the ballot. So Obama won without any opposition. Then Obama decided to challenge Bobby Rush for Congress, he primaries him and Bobby Rush the foreign Black Panther kicks, Obama's but how

and why? Because he characterizes Obama is not truly black from Harvard, taught at University of Chicago Carpetbagger, not really from Chicago, he understand the culture, your blood, Senator Obama even complained about it. So what did Obama do when he got his butt kicked? He redesigned his states in the district to make it more white. Were affluent, more Jewish, less black, less poor. They explained to me how racism is hurt this man. And then he decides to run

for US Senate. And he's not likely to win. But little by little by little scandal and other things. Knock off the front runners he runs. And he wins. And that was Axelrod Axelrod brought out all the dirt on his opponents. Yeah, so that's rottenness gay. Having his true views on gay rights. That whole Joe Biden coming out first instead of brought that was all planned. Because Barack just couldn't, for lack of better term and no pun intended, just come out of

the closet. You're saying and say, hey, you know, it's I'm for gay marriages now. So it's like, Hey, Joe. You go out there, you want to slip out of like, slipping me right? You out me? And then I'm like, What am I gonna do? Right? Well, that's not what's planned that my opinion. Well, that's that's an interesting take. Because the way I always saw it was Joe was such a bumbling fool that he he spilled an axe. And now, now that I'm reconsidering this, thank you. I think you're

right. And but you know what? They, Joe still probably wasn't part of the plan. They probably whatever, Joe, whatever you do, don't talk about the gay marriage thing. Joe. Don't talk about Joe do not talk about the gay marriage thing. Tell Joe talks about the gay marriage thing and boom, and Brock was like, Oh, well, you know, yeah, you know, all the legislation

was ready that everything good to go. I'm gonna agree with I'm gonna agree with and it was real touch and go there and that reelection because the black church because of it. Yeah. That was a it was a it was a civil war in the black church over Obama. over the over the same sex marriage? Yes. Because it's like, are we really putting a bomb above Jesus? I mean, that was the that was the where does he hang in the trilogy on the wall? I mean, does he hang above MLK?

Does he hang right next to Jesus? Well, JFK comes now. Obama goes on the go so you gotta you gotta keep hear me. Okay, in bruh Jesus, hello, Minister. What after that's the liberal feminist wall. On the General black wall, is it still Jesus MLK and Obama, Barack Obama. But that silver word did happen because it's like people that are Bible based, not what you I don't care what Obama said. But at the same time, it was where we the second term you know, we

gotta get the second term. This is really witnesses. When it comes to this far, keep keep our eyes on the prize. Yes shall go and push push. Let's go is important. He's going to do stuff for us. Yep. And then the role laid out for him. I want to say this one thing is, I truly believe we saw Trading Places happen in real life with Barack Obama and Senator Edwards from North

Carolina. I truly believe that's the only competition Brock Obama really had and he really stalled his identity if you really look at this really. Look, it wasn't not here. I must say Harry, it was not how it was my off with the names today but Edwards he had the perfect hair and he was like the JFK reincorporate on reincarnated. Within that story came out Oh, John Edwards, Edwards. They removed John Edwards. Oh, yeah, they canceled him over a haircut. Remember that

they get a calcium over that. But they were looking for anything to get rid of him. Oh, yeah. Because he stood in Brock Obama's way he was in my bag. He cheated on his wife. He still campaigned for funds had a $300 haircut and his airplane on the runway. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah, they will. But prior to Brock Obama, he was the favorite to be President really needed to be a Yeah, yeah. He does have to be eliminated. He stepped right into his shoes and was

like, oh, yeah, I'm the guy for every every American. Yeah, I really believe that. Not reason why I say trading places because that's kind of how the movie went. Right? They took the one guy, white guy. Yeah. Put it in. And they're like, see mortar move. Exactly. $1. Oh, good point. So they talk about the narrative of the gay rights. But this is another narrative that they had to keep running. And that's the slave narrative, or his connection to slavery. Yes. His legitimacy

when it hit me, because I was like, Okay. That was all for Obama. I saw where the money was coming from funding. And I was like, they're not giving him that kind of money if he's gonna be a real revolution, Neri type figure, because all the banks is lined up and you're saying, the blank checks ready, like whatever you need. And that's what I was like, oh, no, about this guy. And just as a small story was, I was in Chicago, actually, the day that he won the nomination. It was me and my

brothers were on a road trip. And it's just like, I have a connection there. Right? Just like I was in Chicago. Sure. That must have been great. Mom, I must have been a great we were actually at this little bar. And it was like, everybody was just happy. I mean, I never remember people being it was a black establishment. So it was just like a sense of pride. So I get how people get sucked in. But let me I just want to say at point, but the slavery net weight hit me was, I remember

where he was. And I woke up the next morning, and I saw a picture this little old lady and he said, from slavery to the White House. It was like Obama and there have been no slaves. But they were talking about, Oh, y'all, nudging me? knew what a nudge word by this felt this. Oh, y'all are playing with us. So this whole narrative and then people start getting hit like, he's not really one of us. I mean, that's what brought me Rush was saying right, and when

he ran against him, he's not really one of us. So there was this concerted effort to keep Brock Obama toxic slavery. And if they couldn't do it through him, they did it through Michelle. This morning. We are learning fascinating details of Michelle Obama's roots. today's New York Times traces her family's five generation path from slavery to the White House. We're joined this morning by genealogist Megan smolenyak who uncovered Mrs. Obama's family tree. Good morning. This is what this is

almost a mystery. We we knew for certain that on her father's side of the family that the trace back to slavery, but there were rumors about on her mother's side. How did you make the connection and who was the key person? Well, I'll tell you I worked back methodically generation by generation, but of all her ancestors. The one who called to me the most loudly was when they Melvina, who was a great, great,

great grandmother. And she was just fascinating. For example, I found a codicil on her from 1850, where she's first mentioned, she's only six years old. And in that document, her first owner, a fella by the name of David Patterson is leaving her to his wife when he passes away or it is I mean, there is the actual will and testament and this little girl is named she's six years old. She's also listed in another I mean, it is listed as a piece of property. What is your value? $475

Oh, man, that got it all. That's fantastic. From 475 to 500 million. Yep, property, she's property but nobody questioned Michelle's lineage to slavery. I mean, that wasn't a question. So they had to keep digging. And then they thought a new discovery of Obama's ancestry. President Obama's story is well known his father from Kenya, his mother from the United States, but ancestry.com says it has mapped out the Obama family tree going back 11 generations with

stunning conclusion. Anastasia Harmon is the company's lead family historian. Our conclusion is that President Obama's first African American president is the 11th great grandson of the first documented enslaved African in what was the link is made not from his father's side, but from his mother and Dunham's lineage, she was connected back to a man named John Punch, record show punch who lived in Virginia had children with a white woman. Those children later became

known as the bunch family. The findings of the two year study are now posted on the company's website. So how did the research team figure this out? As we're going, you know, from President Obama to his mom and grandmother and great grandmother, you're looking for, like birth and marriage and death records, all those kind of records as we get farther back in time, though, they weren't kept or they've been destroyed over time, the Civil War, a lot of records are

destroyed, fires, floods and things like that. So we start looking at what we call surviving records, church records, land records. And so when we get really far back into like, your John bunch, the third who's born in 1680, he from here on out we're looking at Land Records, University of Maryland history professor I Oberlin says all of this is perfectly plausible, because there was a time when white indentured servants and black slaves freely intermingled Oh, oh, as before Black Lives Matter.

Yeah. So the first black president, son of Stanley named Barack Hussein Obama, is connected to the first slave ever Exactly. In America. What are the chances white mama sighs Thank you. ancestry.com. Maybe we'll get out of here with we have the time they will fill in the pressure. They were they had they had to do so. We gotta do it. Gotta find slavery. Yes. Wow. But the magic world. And even his most ardent supporters became disillusioned with Brock Obama and his whole do nothing

attitude for black people. And one of those being Michael Eric Dyson. And so I have a clip from Michael Eric Dyson, then, and then we're gonna go and see how he's become dissatisfied and angry, angry black man. President Obama. So let's start off with 30. We began with Barack Obama's election to believe many did that we're living in a post racial society. Vin Been there done black over with it. And what happened, of course, is that Barack Obama unexpectedly to some just evoked all of this

racial animus and hostility. You mentioned Dylann Roof, the young white man who murdered nine people in that Charleston church. He wrote a kind of crazed manifesto and in it he said, You people are taking over basically I have to do this. Yeah, that's a whole nother story. Dylann Roof is manifesto of sorts. He wrote this. Oh, convenient. Yeah, that was Mayor Eric. My Apps give me Michael Eric Dyson, then caping for Obama and Obama explaining away all his issues,

issues. Now let's Well, where are you at one, what people were trying to get Obama to do? It ain't just about legislation, use your voice and speak up. Not know he's that office. Now. I love him. I want him to make as much money as you can. But don't just make money. Make meanings speak. Sir. You have the bully pulpit of the world before you you just can accumulate chips and cash and make money and I ain't mad at

you make all the money you want. Make all the money you need get your paper, but speak up about Donald Trump you out of office. When you're in office, we made excuses for you. Oh my god, he can't talk because they allow voting you ain't gotta be voted on Office no matter where you're at. Obama we love you. I know a lot of black people gonna be mad but speak up. We feel it needs to do more. Oh my God more. What is he done? What does he does name it? What

have you done? What have you done? Since you've been on the office? You spoke up for one politician and said she should be in office. You ain't helped out no black people. You You You certainly you undermine the candidacy of Keith Ellison to be head of the Democratic National Committee. Right DNC and get your man in a man Perez is a good dude. But I'm saying you undermined the black man. So the black man that people suffered for who were black, and who said he should be supported

undermined the black man ain't got nothing to say about it. I know your man. tough. Tough. What's the word? I mean, this this has got to be a, this has got to be a common question what you do in Baroque. Once you say it anywhere, everybody, as he only comes out when he's allowed to? I mean, because it's clear. He's told what he can speak on. And when he can't speakerphone. But Michael Eric Dyson did something tricky there. Can you say? What have you done? And then he had to

think about like, oh, I cosign his whole year. Part of it. Yeah. Right. What have you done? Yes, right. No, wait, I cosign. Lucky Eva. See, you know what I always thought, I always thought that the plan was is is going to sound weird. There was like a president of the World slot for Obama. And that was, you know, just taking

you in like that. Yeah. So something along those lines, I mean, it would have he was young enough, you know, he's young enough to take 10 years, 15 years to to create something if Hillary Clinton become president, we might have actually seen Black Lives Matter turn out very differently. And just look at some of the cities that are in on it. It's obvious now, I mean, you don't leave people burning crap down to your

city for for eight weeks. So there was some I always thought there was some plan and then Brock Obama would emerge and you know, what? reaches out. Oh, well, so you said you sound like that has expired. I think that's an I said it before. I think this would this Oh, Joe Biden thing is Joe Biden is the perfect proxy for Barack Obama to run the country without taking any blame right. Now. No, I'm with that. But I thought it was going to be bigger. I thought it was going to be a bigger thing.

Yeah, he can't hear me. Yeah, he can't really do that. Because. But he's, I think people disillusion me like, people down with him. It's like he, he I mean, he's literally like being canceled for I mean, to be honest with the people that got him there. He can't activate them to go vote. So what good is he? That's it. That's all you got to say. He can't activate people to vote. So he's just no good. He's new to her. Hi. Talk to the last I mean, for Hillary Clinton. Yeah. Don't

clap. Oh, vote. You say? My legacy. Yeah, right. For my legacy. Yes. For me. But Eric Michael, Eric Dyson, he didn't stop there. Where are you brought? What reality that what do you think is that the what you see is a lack of willingness to engage. I mean, that's his personality. That's that who winds to chill out personality. And that's also he's not he and got the same kind of a ethos, pathos, pain, hurt, and agony that black people have had. I'm not saying he's not black.

That's not what I'm saying. I'm not saying he truly black, he is black and a lot of black people I know. But he didn't have that existential misery growing up in the same way. He doesn't have the same anger, necessarily that black people have that were outraged by this stuff. He didn't fill it in his gut the same way I'm not sending a black is blacker than black. I've

known Obama since 92, one of the blackest dudes I know. But what I'm saying is that you're being black and getting to do with the kind of blackness and the kind of experience that you that you had and endure. And so you don't you don't feel driven to speak

out. You don't you're not LeBron James, who said, I'm gonna represent for my neighborhood where I came from, regardless of all the cash I get, and it's time to put the fire under Obama to you out to office now, all the Negro excuses made for you while you were in office, to, for us to say, Wait a second, if you don't do something, wait to the last half of the second term, he gonna do something. What do you do? And I'm saying finally got on to criminal justice reform. Okay. And I'm

saying this out of love for a bum. I know, there's some Negro bots out there. There's some Obama bots who can't hear nothing. They just as bad. Let me tell you what, Obama bots are just as bad as these Trump supporters who can't hear criticism. If it's your guy, be willing to say, You know what, I love him. I'm gonna ride with him right at that, but there's some stuff he could have done better. Wow. I heard Jay was heard you talked in there. It was really funny.

What Eric, what happened is Eric leads to hitch his wagon to Obama's train. And now the train is not moving off the rails. So now it's like, well, where's the most lucrative angle on Obama? And that's question to him. Where are you? You know, we get all these excuses. And yes, you are saying and I'll say it for you. Barack Obama is not black. I will say it. There you have it. He keep tiptoe around it. And he realized he said it. He had to walk it back for the next 1520 seconds. Well, I'm not

saying he's not black. He's he's more black than black. He's black and in the back of forest Whitaker's neck, I mean, like. So he did that. So he didn't say anything Bobby Rush did but then he's like, I went a little too far and had to back it. No reason why I said black He's not black, if you want to say Black is a creation of black ink, he didn't hold true to what he was supposed to do. Right? And that's the throw black

people. Either the thought his weight behind their their causes, even if he can't get them changed at least last year for making an effort. He couldn't say reparations for everything else every question like brought what you want for much reparations. I mean, that kind of thing. So you're so right. You're so and if he would have left saying the only thing we haven't gotten done yet America is this? It

would, it would have been left lingering. And it would have been a question that would have been on everybody's mind, but we know that that's not the way it works. And always how he talks is when it comes down to voting, and it's just saying that he brought up brocco bomb Eric Dyson brought up Lebron James. It's the same thing. They are funded by the same group of people that you can speak on what we allow you

to speak on Yeah, but China No. Reparations No. If you want to talk about putting silly names on black jerseys or whatever it go go for voting go for it. But other things no. So they're their own in a sense. I mean, it's no no easy way to put it in to say and I mean, let me flesh out what I'm saying. So I don't sound like Michael Eric Dyson backpedal, backpedaling on if he's black and matte, and if he wants a minimum of two definitions of black we laid out on the last show, yeah, if

you're talking about lineage, he's not black, right? He is not. You're not a Das, which that is synonymous with black, which they stretched it out to mean, whatever they want to now with these two definitions, but like I said, I'm a really bad but no, by the debt, two definitions. He is not black, that was laid out, but not my definition that was laid out by Miss colors in her own Yes. And last China said that Dyson here that he can't just be

honest about it. And he had to double down because he kind of flubbed it. It's kind of sad. When he asked he, liberal universities, well, that's, that's why we do a podcast. So we can actually say these things and get down to some brass tacks. And speaking of what we do, I think it's a good time to explain people exactly what we do. First, the white man and the black man have to be able to sit down at the same table, the white man has to feel free to

speak his mind without hurting the feelings of that negro. And the so called Negro has to feel free to speak his mind without hurting the feeling of the white man, then they can bring the issues that are under the rug out on top of the table and take an intelligent approach to get the problem solved. What's the only way we'll ever do it? Yes. And the only way that will ever work is without corporate

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went by fast but it's been like a slow motion. It's like it's weird. It's a weird the time went by fast but like it's made every day. Eventful? Yes, I guess it's slow down two days but the time when the lapse in time when was huge. Well, if you look and I will also want to say thanks for Rod rod Williams as well for doing the doing the work. Doing the important work. But look at the body. Look at the body of work that there has been a lot with it. Well yet 1200

hours of content or 120 220? No. 1200 1200 is incredible. Yes. 23 times yeah. Hey, yeah, whatever it is, it's more than 24. It sounds like a lot of work. So, and the learning on both sides, just just it's been enriched my life. I'm incredibly happy. Yeah. Can Can we start right here to talk about the pitch in order? How we want to do that? Yes. Because and I'll give you my immediate input. So we've been talking about instituting levels for the value for value

system, we have to do it. We're following the model that no agenda, and no agenda producers birth, and over many years, and it works. And so the idea is we have levels and then you receive a reward for achieving certain support levels. And with the no agenda show, we have Knights and Dames, and they become Knights and Dames of the no agenda roundtable. So we were looking for an analog here. And I I liked it. A lot of people say the same thing, although I'm not really sure it's the right one.

And specifically, I know shooter. Yeah, honestly, every time see when it's kind of like, well, I'll give you my thoughts. So people say we should have this this level be invited to the cookout? I'm like, no, no, no, no, that's that that feels wrong. That sounds wrong. It's like what are you talking about? It that's it's not the right way to go is my feeling. I'm looking forward to hearing your opinion. We've said it in jest several times on this show. And other times doing the work.

I think the work is there in literally doing. And then the other thing is, when you say it to somebody, it'll be Oh, you are and then like so. We hit her certainly. And I was looking for a hierarchy of terms they use like ally and those kinds of things. So went out there. Let's just call out their hell. They call out everything you're saying. Anyway, so we'll just call out from them. We're

doing the work. And we hit a certain level we got to still decide the level that your ally and you can say, You know what? I am an ally of the Mo Mo facts and Adam curry podcast. You know, international podcast so I am an ally and I'm doing the word that way. We interracial are we intersectional. That's the question. I don't know. What are we Adam? Well, don't tell anybody what we really are. No, put a label. You had to put a label on it.

Okay, we're back and we're we're salt and pepper. We're ebony and ivory? What the hell? What we are? Oh, no, but I think doing the work um, because then it's just hey, are you doing the work? You do? And I didn't ally and we come up with with hierarchy of ally and that kind of thing. But once you hit a certain I think once you contribute to the show, you're already an ally. Yeah, yeah. You because You already done the work? Well, then maybe you become that was just my

opinion. That was okay, we're gonna leave it up to our producers who will have to do the work and let us know what they think of levels. I like the idea of doing the work. It's so ridiculous, but it's also true. It's true. It's 100 But you could not do better you could not do the work better than by being a producer and just enjoying the converse the conversation that is not enjoying it. They're studying it they're doing the work

they're supporting the conversation. That's what they're doing right they're bringing note support a give us motive become it Yeah, supporting so you can support ally supporting some of the most important one of the most important conversations of our generation. Oh, are you doing the work? That's it? Yeah. What are you doing? Worker you Doing alright,

we move on to Brian Martin with that with 193 90. Interesting number Mo, have you, you have expanded my mind and thinking on the topic of race and human relations through American history, we are in a confusing time devoid of logic and sense, I could articulate what I saw as the contradiction, but could not elaborate on the forces behind it. Your ability to weave historical context into modern events is fascinating. I'm using your episodes on white fragility and black ink as an educational

basis for my son and his girlfriend. Excellent. As we close out the summer, they are poised to return to the university home where the topics of race and equality will no doubt be discussed. I see these two episodes as the beginning of what I hope will be an enlightening class and discussion. I also plan to investigate Johnson's Great Society as strategic move against the rise of communism in the black community by hypothesis that came to mind

while listening to the black ink episode. That's 43 I requests so first of all, excellent idea. Get those kids doing the work. It will only benefit them this is no doubt. And we think Brian and he wants a WUSA for those struggling with their fragility and the guilt of it. Brian Martin from Parkland, Florida Of course, we gotta WUSA for you Andrew, nice Andrew wealth 12345 Great number Adam and most are Andrew of the wet drains from no

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That's so sweet. Oh that's nice. And then he also has a nice offer as a firearms instructor and police officer for over a decade to help us with any training any firearm selection anything we want. All we have to do is go to Nashville I'm saying sounds like a good family trip to families go to Nashville we all shoot some guns up oh yeah. More value. Justin thank you so much very kind Brandon Shipley, our first Associate Executive Producer value for value says love the

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both are helping to unite us all out. I hope so. By the way, some very good shows I've watched recently have coincided with your podcast and I highly recommend them. There's snow fall and kill the messenger both about CIA's influence on the drug war in the 80s. And of course, Malcolm X with Denzel Washington, and here's my chip into hashtag GBG give blacks guns for a seat at the table. In You are indeed on Your waste are Scott ed by doing this work. He says Keep up the good work and

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honest a by Thomas J. de Lorenzo. When I found out Lincoln was a tyrant, who suspended habeas corpus between 61 and 62, allowing the indefinite detention of citizens without trial and how we also wanted to literally abolish black people to Liberia, which was started as a settlement by the American Colonization Society correct. They believe black people would face better chances for freedom and

prosperity in Africa than in the United States. Since reading this book, I have heard no one discussed this topic well Telo although I have to say 45 Savage he does he has he does say things like well you know Abraham Lincoln you know the supposedly he was great Supposedly he was great for this. He's hinting at that I liked it I noticed that you'd like I read up on honesty even. Anyway, for no one discussed this topic, let alone show Abe Lincoln was a tyrant

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supported Nick Cannon. But then they had to backtrack. I know Stephen Jackson did because he was like, I don't want no parts of that. So he originally came out supported Nick Cannon but then he came here to walk it back. Well, I'm sorry. We'll have none of that. Here's a cancel cannon There you go. Thank you very much, Brian. Robert Klein 5433 Your shows are fascinating. He says you and the pod father are killing it started with Jerry found no agenda than found mo facts yes a

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might be Dutch has a longer note here. Let's take a look at your mon Adam, thank you for your podcast helped me understand American. Oh yes, this is good from outside the United States. These things are important. helped me understand American black history and culture better. If only I only started listening a couple of weeks ago after being hit in the mouth by Jacobian Dame with the doomsday deniers after he met at a protest rally of the yellow vests, the fatal crashes that's

in the Netherlands in December of 2018. She advised me to start listening to the no agenda show. And I finally dove in. I'm 57 from the Netherlands. Unfortunately now ill with Crohn's disease and on 100% disability but not complaining. And I lived in Chicago in 8283. With a liberal Jewish family in the beautiful University of Chicago neighborhood. That is a

nice area. The Jewish community welcomed me with open arms in their myths and even though I was raised Dutch Reformed at a wonderful time there and luckily didn't encounter anti any anti semitism. The south side of the city however, was a no go zone. It was very impoverished with boarded up houses lots of crime and dangerous to drive through and also for the people living there, mostly blacks and Hispanics. Would you today

address them as a DOS and Latinos? Well, I think there's there's going to be a Dawson there's going to be a lot more besides just Latinos or Latinx there's gonna be all kinds of people there now. Right? I mean, Jamaicans you name it, it's all in there. With the election of the first black mayor, Democrat Harold Washington, there was hope for a better future. Now. 38 years

later, the black on black crime looks like a civil war. And it's heartbreaking for me to read about my heart goes out to all the women who lose their men, children and family to this absurd violence. Oh, can you please explain why it's still so bad in these big cities? Did the city officials Democrats take all the aid money to enrich themselves and give jobs for their own family members instead of improving the neighborhood? What episode did we have Bob Woodson on No, I mean this this kind of

was three or four episodes ago. Yeah, I'm gonna say maybe 30 out of 40. And well, they did give them money to me nepotism to their family to help them, but they don't want to fix the system. If you fix the system, you put yourself out of a job. So I'm asked that that's the whole point. And I want to say, someone wrote me a letter about Chicago and they were telling me, I'm gonna I'm gonna take their word for it. There was like, the all the shooting happens online, mainly two city

blocks. And that's it. So it's kind of like Hamsterdam on the wire, like they Chicago kind of lets them you could kill on the streets as long as you don't. The rest of the city. So yeah, they allow that given to quote, The Baltimore where Baltimore mayor, they given respects to riot pretty much so they're given free rein just to insert whoever they want to on those poor city blocks in New Orleans. They keep it out of, you know, the good, taxpaying neighborhood.

That's, that's a good explanation. It's episode 40, where we brought in Bob Woodson now. Yeah, okay. Okay. Carolyn has been, has been listening to the show from the beginning. She's at number four now. So you got a couple more to go. And she says she recognize a story from no man about the house. This is interesting. Me and my brother, were raised by single mom with

psychiatric disorders and we lived on welfare. We my mother had a new friend he could not live with us, or the benefits would stop social services did check our house more than once. Bizarre to hear the same policies existed decades before on the entire other side of the world. Maybe not by mistake. And we're starting to start thinking well, we always know who's gonna go first. Pay attention to your black friends. Like okay, Carolyn, thank you so much. Can to potty Lea. $24.07 a moment,

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you all for doing the work. Please support us by going to mo facts.com. Or you can go directly to our donation page mo fund me.com mou fu nd me.com And thank you to all these great producers for producing and doing the work for episode 44. As I said before, Brock Obama received the most friendly coverage and even downright ignoring case stories that could have been damaged to him. And I have a couple of examples of

this in the next couple of sets of clips. Okay, um, I guess the first one, let's just go ahead and hop in Malia gets an internship. Sadly, the Obamas have officially moved out of the

White House after eight years of incredible leadership. The most impactful first family we've seen in years is preparing to transition into life outside of the office, and that includes the girls to overnight news broke that Barack and Michelle's oldest daughter Malia has just declared a major internship with famed Hollywood producer Harvey Weinstein after the family

finishes vacationing in Palm Springs. And before Malia heads off to her freshman year at Harvard, she will spend some time right here in New York City, learning all about what independent film has to offer. Harvey Weinstein and his brother Bob, who raise money for the Obama campaign have one of the most successful independent film companies in the world. Their credits include Shakespeare in Love The King's Speech, and most recently, Jay Z's new series time the Kalief Browder story,

so it's safe to say that Malia will be in good hands. We are saddened by their inevitable egg exit from the White House, it will be awesome to cheer on the Obamas when they have half the stress and double the freedom to accomplish anything they can dream. I don't think we need to even say anything about that. I think story speaks for itself.

Have you heard of this before? I mean, my I recall one story quite a while back that that I didn't that she was going to work there or something but it when me too happened? No, that was not brought up. Isn't there 16 individual in the independent intelligence agencies. behest of the President, the President and I'm sending my daughter to work somewhere. Trust me, you might check it out first. What is this guy Harvey all about? Hey, in as is known as it

was Oprah secret in Hollywood that he was hansy hit at? I mean, at best or at worst, however you want to put it there? Yeah, this is not this is not the guy. No, wow. She's gonna be in good hands. Well, you know that. You know, I always stick to the to the rumor that both the Obama kids are not Brock's kids. One is Stevie Wonder's kid and the other one is Scottie. Pippins. Kid. That's what I've always said that.

Wherever you see the pictures of the two. If you see the pictures of the two people that he apparently posed to be their biological parents. Yeah, no, it's very damning. It's very it's very damning. But I'm not gonna dabble in those kinds of conspiracies, cuz I'm gonna say my keep my powder dry for other things. Um, but your daughter going to work for Harvey Weinstein. And this has to be 2016. Yeah, there was already rumblings. She's about Harvey and 16. Right?

Yeah. Oh, man. Can you believe that? But they let you know they're disgusted by the behavior behavior of Harvey Weinstein. President Obama and First Lady Michelle Obama say they are quote disgusted by the behavior of Harvey Weinstein who was accused of sexual assault and raping several women. A portion of their joint statement says Michelle and I have been

disgusted by the recent reports about Harvey Weinstein. Any man who demeans and degrades women in such fashion needs to be condemned and held accountable regardless of wealth or status. They also say that we should celebrate the courage of women who have come forward to tell these painful stories. And we all need to build a culture including by empowering our girls and teaching our boys decency and respect so we can

make such behavior less prevalent in the future. Their statement comes after critics accused the first couple of staying quiet about the Weinstein allegations was dropped last week in a report in The New York Times. And then of course, yesterday, The New Yorker dropped an even more explosive piece as well. Weinstein has been a major

democratic donor. In 2012. He contributed $71,000 to Obama's campaign, their oldest daughter Malia recently intern at the ones that Weinstein Company. Weinstein was also a prominent supporter of Hillary Clinton's presidential campaign. She also finally released a statement saying she was shocked and appalled by the revelations said the behavior cannot be tolerated.

Here is how a normal father would respond somewhere between this report 2016 And today 20 May 20, at some point, maybe by myself, maybe with my wife, I'd say, I was so shocked when I learned this. And I could not believe that my daughter had been impossible danger. You would have to say something about this. But no, yeah. And they acted like they didn't know what then Michelle says we need to believe all women and their stories. Why didn't they listen to the former White House photographer?

He threw a lot of people come and go at the White House as well. What did you think for instance, when Harvey Weinstein visited? There was a very, very tough moment my entire body was screaming. I'm not sure if Australian viewers are aware. But shortly after the New York Times article last year, I came forward and told my story of Harvey Weinstein and my

knowledge of Him in the film business. And when he came to the White House with Michelle Obama for a Broadway Tribute Event, I was my body was screaming inside and I wanted to shake Michelle and go no, no, no, don't do this. I've got to know. Me, I said no. Did you ever you certainly talk about how your skin crawled when you saw Harvey Weinstein walking with Michelle Obama? Did you ever were you ever able to warn them about the the sort of company they were keeping?

Actually, they came up recently with one of her aides. I said to I said to them just recently up to the Michelle Obama, they contacted me, I said, you know, I tried to warn Michelle and they said, well, when? When and how did you do that? Then I said, I spoke to her first lady press office, both in the east wing. And I spoke to President Barack Obama's office on the west when and I don't know why those messages didn't get to them directly. But I was very surprised and disheartened that

Harvey Weinstein was there. I thought it was hypocritical of the first lady at the time. I guess she didn't know what everyone else knew. And I was very concerned when, of course, as it started, Malia started interning at, at Miramax so that the Weinstein Company I had never heard this, this woman, this is great. And I've done a lot of work on researching these people. That's fantastic. Well, of course, this all leads into some of my favorite topics.

And then the two things that distract me is just you can't ignore these two facts. One, Barack Obama being the leader of the free world, you have all this access to all these intelligence agencies. You can't have my look into Harvey. And then your wife is BFFs with Oprah, who has the intelligence, entertainments intelligence agencies, I mean, TMZ and I'm sure she has, she has most everywhere. Oh, you can just pick up the phone and say, hey, oh, what's up? Yeah. Yeah,

Harvey. What's up with him? How is he? Yeah, I'm checking on behalf of my daughter who I love so much. And I'm gonna send her off to intern. What do you think? Oh? And why didn't Oh, say hey, Michelle. I don't really want to stay in that thing. But you might want to let her intern have it for foundation. USA ID anything but that conversation never had. This is? Yeah, that's, that's

awesome. I'll talk about in the media. And then you have these women coming forward today want her and yeah, it was well known news, but nobody reports on that. Now this next topic, I wrestled with it. I was in and it was out. It was in it. It was out. Well. I was like, before you lead into the topic. I'm glad you left it in. Because I worked with this person on her own show in New York when she was on Channel Five. But it was syndicated nationally. I really

had an affection for her. I think we got along professionally extremely well. And she had two modes. Really three with me. She turned on an extra kind of like charm, which I which was very endearing. And I played right into that. Of course she's older than I was. But if she was saying something truthful to you, like in between a commercial break? She had she meant it. She was very, very straight laced. I'm talking about Joan Rivers. Take it from there. Now you take it from here.

Okay. And so So Joe No no, it's good hardware like okay, this is what I was talking about about that hater. I mean that hater cloud because I've done this many times so people can hate me for this if they want it's not a problem, right. So Joan Rivers was was asked, and she was very in tune with if there is such a thing, the gay community, she's been around she's showbusiness, the theater, television, movies, it's very, very, very long

history, very connected woman. And also very intuitive because she went through a lot of tragedy, and she could feel people understand where they were coming from, she turned everything into a joke. And that's how she dealt with her life, I think. But there was a rumor, and I can't honestly remember where you just had to play. It just says this. I'm not shying away from it. I'm this. Well, that would there was definitely I believe she said it and then I can't believe it was not

covered. That's what I'm saying. So well. I think it was it was was it for Entertainment Tonight or or who was at or a team's? I think teams TMZ might not aired it, I think. Yeah. And I think Howard Stern played it a lot, which, which is probably where I heard it first. But these rumors have been around for quite a while. And when Joan Rivers said this, to me, it meant something more than to the average person because I knew that this was Joan in not joking mode.

And this wherever you made you made a ton of news officiating the wedding in New York yesterday. Is this like, is this like a new cottage career? I should do very well, because I don't show and do you think that the country will see the first the United States to see the first gay president or the first woman president Obama. So let's just show is a trend. I'm sorry. She's a white, transgender, we own them. Oh my gosh.

Now she had just officiated, I think the the, the state or the city's first same sex marriage? Yeah, I got I got a clip on that too, just to support that she's not some homophobe or saying it because that's where they should be paying it. When you say something against and you're saying the great Barry. But what struck me is the silence around new story. It was not. We've saw the email where people were

being rude towards Michelle Obama. And it was like, some marriage some hick town sends an email criticizing Michelle Obama and it made like national news. How dare you, Joe, right. You have Joan Rivers come out. And she says it so nonchalantly that and one thing we have to take into account was that cover of Newsweek, they have first gay president, Barack Obama with the rainbow Halo. When I heard this, I'm like, that's not what they meant. Wishes. Like you said, the rumor and rumors and the

conspiracies and those kinds of things went around. And it's not something not something that I can't substantiate, even though there's so some smoking guns around the activities of men dying in Chicago, mysteriously. Hitler's in the Larry Sinclair business and all about that, too. I didn't, I didn't want to dabble in that I wanted to come at the angle of this is how the media protects one of

their assets. And if you want to use the Operation Mockingbird as a, as a friend at work, the framework, they're protecting one of their real assets, not like quote unquote, assets, right? But then, Joe, I mean, Joe, she just said, Oh, yeah. And then she says, Okay, we have him Brock. And I'm like, okay, and then she doubles down like, oh, oh, Michelle. She's a trained me, but that's okay. Don't worry about it. I mean,

it's all right. But she didn't say it like me harshly. And then the interaction opens up with the reporter referencing the same set of six marriage that she had just done previously, which I have a clip on 7pm Jones at Barnes and Noble, she gets a standing Oh, and a surprise request. The comedian who's an ordained minister was asked if she would marry these two things. And it's wonderful. You're my second husband Joan Rivers, a force of nature who was one of a kind Thanks for the memories Jones.

Yeah, yeah, it didn't end very well. With the with this comment. It seems like Joan knew it may have been coming from her last show that she did. Our top story though is the passing of Joan Rivers can her voice really be gone? Funeral Services for her will be this Sunday in New York. Remember it says, are pouring in from all

over the world. For this comedy legend her family says the 81 year old died peacefully Thursday in a New York Hospital summing up a legendary career in comedy rivers daughter and co star Melissa Rivers that this statement my mother's greatest joy in life was to make people laugh, although that is difficult to do right now. I know her final wish would be that we returned to laughing soon. Well, as you know, virtually no subject was off limits for rivers, including her

own mortality. Take a listen to this clip now from her final stand up comedy performance reporting just one day before she ended up in the hospital. If I could die Do you understand how lucky you would be? Do you honestly, you'd have something to talk about to the rest of your life. We invited you there. What did she say at the end? I couldn't hear it. She says she's talking about her dying. She's like you were there. You know, I mean? It would be big news and you would

know. But this is one day before she goes in for surgery. Yeah, very simple surgery. Very simple surgery and routine. routine and then they're just they honestly says that she didn't have to die. There are startling new details emerging from the federal investigation into the death of Joan Rivers. The findings have angered her daughter Melissa. Yeah, Chris Wragge. He has the latest from outside the clinic where a new report says terrible mistakes were made. It's this simple.

Joan Rivers did not have to die. There's always a risk. Whenever you go under, you've got to say maybe this won't work. Or maybe I won't even come out of it is a major life choice. This just released 22 page report include some disturbing claims about what was supposed to be just a routine throw procedure for the comic legend back in August. Among the mistakes investigators report the clinic failed to get Jones informed consent for each procedure performed and failed

to identify deteriorating vital signs. And this is the part that is just astounding. The report says that while Joan was sedated, a staff member quote, took pictures of the surgeon and a patient with his cell phone. Oh, man. Oh, I remember all this. It was very proof of it hit Send me my bitcoin. Yeah, that's bad man. I was shocking to me when she died. It's like what? And then because I didn't hear about the Michelle thing until after me either me and Monica say Oh, this is what like she died

mysteriously. And all of a sudden, you know, what shocked me was that the news didn't freak out on her and counsel her. She should have definitely been canceled. To say the first black. First Lady is a transgender. I mean, you had the gay kid, the LGBT community should have been outraged. The black community should have been outraged. The feminists should have been outraged. You know, the machine the machine didn't the machine suppressed it the machine didn't let that happen.

Waste when they don't talk about something that can generate a lot of revenue as mean it's bigger. It's much big money much bigger. We're just looking so yeah, it was Entertainment Tonight. I think they might have had, they might have shown no, I'm just looking at the news. If I can see any historical new stuff. It's really it only aired there I think and that was it. Done on TMZ covered it and they kind of poo pooed it away like oh, that's

just John Van Jones. Yeah, that's why I heard it on team the TMZ clip, not what you can't find anymore. That's the other thing like these clips are disappearing. To find this clip was hard. I had to go inside of a bigger like, video that had it in the clip embedded. And I had to snip it there but no, the clips are gone. They're gone. They've been scrubbed. Really. And don't ever get it twisted that Obama is gangster. Super

gangster. And the reason why I say that is 41 and Joan Rivers her daughter Melissa revealing tonight she received a handwritten note paying tribute to her late mother that note from President Obama writing quote, not only did she make us laugh, she made us think she made us think yes A handwritten note from Obama. He just called you gay, your wife trainee? Oh, yeah. She made us laugh. She made her think a little too much. Do you remember? Do you remember the time that was? President Obama

was speaking. And I think there might have been a war memorial. Any any any? He's referring to you know, Mike and I, we, yeah, Michael and Michael. He did it on several occasions. But like I said, I don't want to I don't have proof either way, on what she is or isn't. But that fact that wasn't covered in the news and that he follows up with a handwritten note to Melissa River. She made us laugh, she made this thing. That's like a

stone cold, like gangsta moonlight. Did it come wrapped in like a dead fish or something? Like, like, I stir and then I sent the kid a note. That is really I love your thinking Mo. No, it's just but and I want to say this before I play this last clip. This is the hill Obama chose to die on metaphorically or figuratively. And that's the transgender bathroom, the bathroom. That's right. This and I want to say enraged, but just that was the tipping point for

black people. It's like, come on brah. Like, I mean, you did DACA you did gay marriage before us. I mean, the guy said before us, you did all these other things. And then your last year to transgender bathrooms. That's the one you want it that's the one you wanted, not reparations not so the freeing people. So the logic the logical conclusion is this is the decision made by a man who has a different cultural history than was

portrayed. Yes. But and different values you parade around as black when you play it out as black that has certain racist wishes. Yeah, sure. And that's what you heard upset. Upset. MICHAEL ERIC DYSON, like, that's kind of what he was saying like, bro, come on. I say something. So little bit made. Gray. Well, no, actually, I'll ask you if he gets an extra. I don't. Okay. There may be some reasonings behind why he's so sympathetic to this demographic, and that's Obama's ex nanny.

66 year old EBU walks the streets of her Indonesian slum. She lives in a tiny room. subsisting on money she earns from washing clothes, EVs, meager existence belies a startling truth. She was once nanny to President Barack Obama. She's always been proud that the person she cared for drove to school and cooked for ended up being number one in the world. The future president was just eight years old at the time. In the late 1960s. His mother and Donna married her second husband

and moved to Indonesia. Dunham was impressed by EVs cooking ability, and offered her a job for two years he lived with Obama and his family in this Jakarta home. But she thinks the young Obama didn't know one fundamental truth about her. born a man. He identifies as a woman. He says and Donna might have known she was transgendered, but she never dressed as a woman in front of Youngberry Edie has struggled through life, saying she's never found suitable works until Obama

and his family left the country in the early 1970s. But she says Obama's election gave her a reason to feel proud for the first time and a longtime Matt Friedman, Associated Press. Wow. So thank you for that, too. I didn't know that story there. Damn, you. Damn, you allow that listen, Maurice. You gotta stop this. What do you what do you think the strategy was, for whoever is was controlling Obama and every president is controlled one way or the other. This current one is probably

more controlled by military than anything. What do you think the strategy was? What Why choose those particular issues to go out with and not? I mean, sorry to put it just toss a bone. I mean, why not a single thing? What do you think the idea was there? Well, if you look at it from from a Marxist mindset, it's all about the conflict. So keep the conflict going and just add some LGBTQIA PK to we got

a good cost thing. I want to say this correctly. The LGBT community was sitting back on their laurels, celebrating the marriage thing. So it's like now at another level because you didn't win nothing. You know what's in here? Oh wow. Sisters and brothers have their own bathroom. There is no victory well that of course is not the end of the Barack Hussein Obama

story. The berry so Tonto story this story will continue and I look forward to unpacking whatever comes our way with you mo because I think this a lot well, I'm not gonna say it because it's your it's your tagline to say yes, pay attention to everything and the truth will reveal itself. And that is our motto ladies and gentlemen Moe thank you so much at a good time man as always,

as always, Adam and I'll see you next week. Remember it's mo facts.com If you want to support us directly you producers are encouraged to do that. mov fu nd me.com We'll see you next week right here on mo facts with Adam curry.

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