¶ Moe Factz 31
For more facts with Adam curry for March 28 2020 This is episode number 31 pandemic 2020 locked down at him and Moe on Rhona radio. Just figuring out a day gig and we never get back to work. There'll be Adam and Mo every day. Rona radio? Yes, that's all Oh, in a while you're down. That's, you know, hold on a second. Before we do even anything I need to. I need to see if that domain name is available. Oh, let's just be funny. Let's see. Check for the domain. Rona
radio.com. Available. All right. I am now registering that we don't know what we'll do with it yet. If we have hopefully we won't need it. But you never know. Rhona radio.com Everybody. How you doing? Our RNA. How you doing? Everything good. I am doing well. Sir. How about yourself? Yeah, pretty good. How are the kids? I gotta ask. You know, because we don't have any to deal with during this. This crisis. I know. You got four. So the hanging in?
Oh, no. Well, I think they miss school because my wife is even harder on. They get at school. We're still getting them outside. Yeah. Live in life and almost positive. Yeah. So um, everything's working. Well, I was gonna say it's actually it's kind of handy. You got four kids now. You get to four times at 500 bucks actually turned out to be valuable these kids for once. That's good, man. Congratulations on that. Thank you. So to try and keep some
normalcy during the lockdown. We're just continuing with our regular schedule with Mo facts with Adam curry. Thank you all for your your feedback. I can even see people posting earlier today. Like I need more facts now. How am I gonna get through my Saturday? And I think I think I'd like to Saturday day because it gives people you know, something to look forward to to get the weekend started on something to anticipate. And of course, depending on how how
many million clips you got, you know, that kind of depends. But the show is, is posted. So what do we got going on for today? Well, what's, what's the word, but you had to spin the wheel. spinning the wheel of clips, the wheel of topics, the Wheel of Fortune here on Moe facts let's find out what today's topic will be where the wheel stops nobody knows here we go the clip and go black identity extremists. What's that?
Black identity extremists? Yeah, he's this is this is the opposite of white nationalist extremists. I think it's the exact same, but just different groups. Oh, okay. All right. I saw this is a term that cropped up in around 2017 by a leaked FBI document. And so I waited too much time. I mean, it's been on my radar. But if I have time to actually dig into these things, I don't like to address them. So I thought this
is this would be a great time. So this is so this is from your your your long, long term, open, open case open open cases file. This is where you live from the list. Got it. All right, good. Good, good. Good. So I guess we'll just jump right in with FBI warns of terror.
Black identity extremists now considered a domestic terror threat by the FBI Bureau releasing an explosive new report claiming police officers are being targeted by people who perceive racial injustice is the FBI says the 2014 shooting death of Michael Brown in Ferguson, Missouri, spawned the threat against cops Brown's death, also sparking violent riots across the country.
Was this a TMZ report? Because it sure sounded like it actually it was a Fox News report and the music and the jazz and it was the same thing it caught my attention to I'm glad you picked up on that TMZ Fox no difference. So have you heard of this term? I want to know what you know about it and I don't think I have I black extremists black identity extremists now it also it's not a great term. If I'm going to be a terrorist. You know, what's it
you know? I'm a terrorist over my identity. It just it sounds kind of wimpy is bi II. I mean, that was the yes, it's not quite like it was not quite like Black Panthers if you know what I mean. Yes. Big right Panthers. Okay. And I guess no roll out? That's not really no. But I had not heard of as far as I know. So that's interesting. So they tried to push this term. And obviously it didn't make it across the threshold. But it was trending on Black Twitter. And I'm just I'm just shocked that
you didn't show up on your timeline anytime. Maybe it's before you actually started tracking it. Yeah, maybe the algos just took it away from me, you never know. Right. But it was a huge talking point on the pro black side of things. Because basically, it was similar to what we've seen in the past, with groups being targeted in how they create narratives. But today show we're not going to go too deep into the groups that are being labeled this because there is no
clear group or groups being identified as this. But how this term came about. And you know, I'm all about narrative. I'm all about how they create these terms and always like it again to find out what the origin of these these things are. And it's also good if we'll find out today, why this one failed? And or did or was it stopped? I don't know. I don't know either. But I guess we can get into FBI sites black extremists terror. Meanwhile, the FBI warns this get this. They warned Americans
of new a new domestic terror threat. Black identity extremists. What's that? Well, it goes back to a lot of these police shootings. When we look at a Alton Sterling shooting in Louisiana, for example, you had a man man that decided in retaliation for that to shoot officers, the same thing held true in Dallas, you had another mad man that decided to shoot police officer who was
a veteran. It's right, right, exactly. But when we think about these African American extremists, this is something that's a byproduct of, I'm gonna say black lives matter in a lot of these other organizations. And I don't want to say black lives matter cause they However, they do have a responsibility to marshal in the following to ensure that I shouldn't say ensure, but let them know that we are going to protest for peace, and they fail that that therefore they do have a level of
complacency. Okay, so I heard a splinter group of black lives matter in that report. Well, what these two brought up is that the Black Lives Matter movement kind of whipped up this this anger or frustration with police officers? I think it's fair to say a lot of anger is no looking at what we saw in Baltimore, a lot of anger, created a lot of anger. But there was no organ organization to the anger. Now how it got started, we've talked about it
on the show before they became came top down. We've already laid out the links in previous shows of George Soros and the funding of him to Black Lives Matter. But the violent acts, those were not tied to any specific group. And I think this was the point of this label, so they could kind of lump all the act bad actors under one title. Right, in order to Okay, well, that's an interesting by itself. Yeah. So maybe it wasn't a group, but they just gave it a
name. And that's all these people doing this, where you saw the same thing with white nationalist and making white groups terror, making them terrorist groups. And it's the same thing, but I think this does happen prior to it just didn't take and it's funny to only found clips like official news clips on the Fox network. I'm not just I'm not cherry picking from Fox, I'm just the the ones that were communicating it as an actual threat. We're only coming from Fox.
Well, that's, that's the reason why it never got any legs right there. If you try to launch a meme through Fox is gonna die. It's, you know, anything that comes out of there, the other networks will never pick up. They'll never it'll never agree on that. But I do like I find it interesting that someone was out there and needed to name them. Yeah, and when you see something being named like that, it always it always just like, I was like, where's this going? Where's this
coming from? I've never knew of any particular group that was speaking offense to violence. Now you have groups that speak of self defense, but you have that on all spectrums of every race have, you know, if anybody comes at you, you have the right to defend yourself. I mean, that's just as American as apple pie, but I never saw like the the offensive or going out and attacking people. So that's what raised my arm raised the flag on
this situation. And as you mentioned before, if Fox was trying to push this, then you had the more liberal media pushing it back against this right and one of those organizations is being Vice. Yes, we're more an advertising agency than anything but yes. And you're going to see that even be even more true and it's next to the clips from inside the FBI hunt for black identity extremists in the
early morning hours. So December 12 2017, former Marine and black activist Christopher Daniels, aka rock combat lagoon was arrested at his home for unlawful gun possession. So what would warrant such a dramatic arrest and a possible jail sentence of 10 years? According to a leaked FBI document, there's a new group of domestic terrorists black identity extremists Wow, that was very, I left that tail on there. Just to SET set the mood. Identity extreme.
I left it on there purposely and I did it on a couple of clips to see the tone of this documentary or expos as they did on quote unquote, black identity extremist. And what name did this guy have Christopher Daniels is what I heard. know his name was if you gonna read it, but I didn't catch his name, but more important that his name is him being a former Marine. Yeah, pay attention. Everybody out there, pay attention. Make a note of the connection with the military
with these extremist. It'll be laid out later. But they, as they pointed out ex Marine, where's this going? What is what is this? I've never heard of this guy before? No. As I told, as I said before, that I am aware listened to a lot of different points of view on the black experience, correct? Yes, this guy has never rested on my radar ever and all of a sudden vices doing a huge story on him. And well, I'll let them continue on. telling about his story.
Right Ken was greeted at home by family and members of Gorilla mainframe, the black activist group that Rakim co founded on their website driller mainframe describes themselves as a community based political organization. Their activities include food drives, self defense classes, weapons training, and open carry neighborhood patrols. It was these kinds of activities which are visible across grilla mainframe and Rakim social media accounts that Rakim believes made him a target of the FBI.
Wow, a lot of suppositions in there. Holy crap. I can't believe I have found one story from the intercept fear of a black homeland. The strange tale of the FBI is fictional black identity extremism movement. Okay. This is interesting. I bet you came across this as well as you were researching it. Yes, yes, I did. And what I found strange or interesting was
the name of his group. Gorilla mainframe. Yeah, Bill, not the animal but like Gu e r r i L L A. Now the definition of guerrilla itself is a person who engages in irregular warfare, especially as a member of the independent unit, carrying out harassment and sabotage. Second, and this is from Merriam Webster. And the second definition is or relating to or suggestive of gorillas, especially being aggressive, radical, and unconventional. Yes, it's not great. Guerrilla warfare is not good.
I'm talking about why would you name your organization? Gorilla main frame, Gorilla mainframe? I mean, you put in a big red beacon say, hey, come investigate me. Kinda. Does that make any sense? Do they have gorilla mainframe.com to just registered to their home address is that they have a website and they had several YouTube videos. But they were just talking about basically the same thing that the Black Panther was doing feeding the kids and self
defense. And I didn't really say take anything away from negative but it's just all this is just way too convenient. Yeah, I hear you. I hear ex ex military guy. Now he comes home and he's trying to raise a new Black Panther Party a quote unquote, new Black Panther Party. And he's the first arrest under this new black ID the black identity extremists label. So I guess we need to figure out why the label?
Yes, I'd like to know there's this perception that the government promote that we are in a stage Have a critical emergency because of terrorism. And that's because they get more power. And in order to retain that power they need to find more terrorists. One of the most outspoken critics of the black identity extremists assessment is Michael German, the former FBI agent who did undercover work on white supremacists and right wing militias in the 90s.
He's now a fellow for the Brennan Center for Justice. What is sensitive? Do you believe that the FBI has to make a label like black identity extremists, a person cannot be targeted for investigation based solely on First Amendment activity. So by creating this black identity extremism movement, they can use that as the justification to then target any activists who are any black person who is
protesting police violence. One of my problems with this kind of half intelligence report is these are six disparate acts of violence that they try to mold into a movement there was really nothing connecting them except the fact that they killed police officers in the fact that they were black. Yeah, this is so typical for the FBI to do these types of things. I'll just give you my my my gripe. My gripe upfront just
like I was waiting for just just recently in the news. The fact that was during the during the right after the president, you know, said hey, everybody should stay home for you No, no more than 10 of course a lot of cities even Austin started to lock down all of a sudden after months of using a confidential a form informant to jack up some guy who lives with his grandmother to get them all freaky and like oh, yeah, now I want to go kill everybody in the in the hospital, you know, show
this Coronavirus is a hoax, and they give him a phony bomb and they give him all the oil, just get them all jacked up to go. And then they arrest him and the guy was armed. And you know, so then a shootout occurred, convenient, the guy's dead. So he can just happens a lot. But this is a a cycle for the FBI, they do this kind of stuff every six weeks, or they used to do it every six weeks. And our new agenda shows a theory on this.
And this comes from people inside the FBI who suggested as much is now they got to keep in the public eye, they got to keep the budgets coming got to stay relevant. And now it seems like Oh man, what a stretch, we're actually going to create a group
name just to lumping a whole bunch of things. And then with that comes the same opportunity to pop things off at times that are convenient for the FBI or the Department of Justice wherever it's convenient for just like this Missouri bomber, I think what what what a great moment to terrify the citizens even more, they could have waited. And the catalyst for this really, and it's a little foreshadowing here into the rest of the show. It was two events,
both several events, but two main events. And that was the shooting and Dallas. Yes, yes, I think five cops. Yep. And then the shooting and Baton Rouge that killed three cop cops. That happened. I think it was like 10 days was a real messy period. All that happened in just the span of a month or so all that stuff. I think was like July 7 in the second was July 17. Quote me on those dates, but I think it was roughly there. So they took these two separate events that had nothing to do with each
other and say, Oh, we're gonna roll them up. And that's what the gentleman that just spoke in the last clip was saying yeah, roll them up into one thing 111 label one lay one label one create a label and then like you said with the six week cycle that I became aware of on the no agenda show that now we have a new we have a new brand. Yeah, but this these guys mess it up clean. I don't know what went wrong. Maybe we'll find out but what I would if I was in the
meeting, like Alright, I got a great idea guys. Hey, we're one pull this together. We'll give it a name. And then we can do stuff with it. We can arrest people do all kinds have it you know, get money budgets. Create something scary. Yeah. Good idea. Boss. What are we going to call it? Black identity extremists? Yeah, that's terrible. Like gorilla gorilla. What was it to a gorilla mane for real a mainframe. Now that's a name. It's like, Whoa, yeah, that sounds scary.
And the reason why I think this is just me speculating. I don't think you heard about this from left wing of mainstream media is they were so supportive of Black Lives Matter. And this bi is basically tied. They're trying to tie it to black lives matter. So if the left wing of the media starts pushing this narrative, then they're complicit because they are the one that put the battery in the back of Black Lives Matter. So they just like we want to suppress this and make it go away.
Right and that would explain why Fox would be interested in hyping the story up because they want to discredit everything the left does everything the left sponsors, which would be Black Lives Matter. And they've always been anti Black Lives Matter. So it just
fits the brand. Easy jump to go from black lives matter to bi E. I mean, maybe even the acronym is like a easy jump because like if you use the acronym instead of the, like, LM D. Yeah, yeah, I think they should have done notorious bi E. And then that would have been better than just bi e just me, man, I live for this stuff. The guy thought that you start advertising. Let's get BI for.
On August 3 2017, the FBI created the black identity extremists assessment using the Dallas 2016 shooting and five other unrelated attacks on police as justification that this movement exists. Black identity extremists now considered a domestic terror threat by the FBI. According to the FBI assessment, it was very likely that these terrorists would target law enforcement officers in retaliation for perceived police violence against African
Americans. Due to the assessment classifying the group as a domestic terror organization The FBI is able to justify any invasive surveillance tactics used in monitoring these targeted individuals wow wow Hold on a second black black I didn t I gotta now I gotta find this black identity extremists and it was a terror group classification well that thing is useless then if you can just name it and then say and then these groups overlap Oh
my god. Here it is here it is. Big Notorious BIG was a designation Nuba home on second I thought it had terror I thought I saw this somewhere I don't see an official I wonder who has to name something official for it to be an official terrorist group. Know what I'm not I'm not sure. I mean, it's on the FBIs list saw me it's not a bar jump. To get to get me the rights to investigate or to circumvent people's, their people's given rights to investigate them. But I just want to point out one other
thing. The mind control music and it's no, it's good. That's vice man. They're very they're really good at that. It gives you a whole documentary feel to it and just pushing you through you can't even question what's what's being told it's good. Well, when this term popped up on people's timelines, and when this leaked document started to get legs, there was only one comparison to bring up and we brought it up in show 15 And this is a throwback clip from their secret COINTELPRO.
We know the government watches us but what about when government surveillance changes the course of history. In the 1960s, the US government started a program called COINTELPRO or the counter intelligence program. The program was a series of secret FBI initiatives targeting activist political and
minority groups. The American Indian movement, the Black Panthers, Martin Luther King, women's and civil rights groups, Vietnam War protesters, and anyone who got the government seeing red tactics used included infiltration and surveying and discrediting leaders and causes in order to undermine entire movements and organizations. But a lot of what COINTELPRO did was illegal, and it was officially disbanded in 1971. Though if you ask me any activist groups and political dissidents, it still
exists. Just him another form. Oh, well, yeah, of course. It's just like, yes, Operation Mockingbird also ended apparently. Yes. The MK Ultra ended. Yeah, it all ended. Oh, yeah, sure if we continued under a different name, but those those programs ended. Yeah, fair enough. Well, this is nothing new. And I'll just show in the last clip. These kinds of things have been going on and one of the will any black group that pushes anything other than non violence is
labeled as radically the word. The previous term was radical militant. Yeah. You know, these were the terms that were labeled. Now we have extremist. One of those people that were labeled as an extremist was Malcolm X. Of course, a black man is supposed to have no black man strength is an extreme. He's supposed to sit passively and have no feelings be non violent, and love his enemy, no matter what kind of attack is verbal or otherwise, he's Ebola taken by the fans up
and in any way tries to defend himself. And he's an extremist. Know I think Fisher who preceded me is getting exactly what he asked for. Main reason for believing in extremists. Wow, that was that was another scary clip. Well, I want to say this, those Funkmaster Flex bombs, not an original clip. These were this is the only place I could find his speech and whoever posted it put these explosive bombs in the background. Every time he made an excellent point is a bit
distracting. But I mean, you have to use the source material that you're given right now. And I get the point. In fact, I'd like to make another point. We are dealing here with a BPE. blocked with black podcasting extremists. Right there. Mo I see you, ama. You wonder where this Okay, I gotta be honest, you wonder where this topic came from. And this is Nichelle the kick and connectivity between the shows. I ended the last show off with
the school of fish analogy. Yes. And part of that school of fish analogy is one, the fish can't be too close together, or too far apart. Now, with that analogy, this is the reason why, if we're if we're going to be successful at creating change, we can't be too close together because they always can create these terms. They have sound infiltrators, as we've seen throughout history, and to divide they to divide and destroy and discredit. And yeah, whatever term you well the term
you want to use. So that is, that is how we got from last show to this show. Okay, got it. And to be fair, Malcolm X. That's right. He's not usable in the same way Martin Luther King is usable, because King was about non violence and loving each other, which we should love
each other. But as soon as you as Malcolm pointed out in the previous clip, as soon as you start talking about protecting yourself, and this is not only so called blacks, quote unquote, blacks, this is any group as soon as you start talking about defending yourself, then you're our problem. Although if black people go with white people to the state capitol with guns, it's all white extremists just so you
know. I saw some black faces there but it was all white extremist and you saw a lot and that's really really railed that whole anti gun because it's like we don't have a clean we don't have a clean camera shot without having a black person Hey, move that guy over to the left a little bit yeah, I can get my shot so right. And then you if you do that, then you start bringing these people that have similar ideologies together. Bad idea can't have getting together and having thoughts.
That's why this podcast is so dangerous. Notorious BPE mo facts so um, let's continue listen to listen to Malcolm X a little bit more intelligently directed extremism, extremism in defense of liberal extremism in question just because I firmly believe in my heart that the day that the Glassman uncompromising and realizes that he's within his rights when his own freedom is being jeopardized, to use any means necessary to bring about
his freedom or put a halt to that injustice. As I don't think you'll be by himself, I live in America where there are only 22 million blacks against probably 160 million white. One of the reasons that I'm in no way reluctant or hesitant to do whatever is necessary to see that black people do something to protect themselves. I honestly believe that the thing
that they do, many whites will have more respect for them. And then there'll be more whites on their sides and are now on the side with these little wishy washy Luddites love diathermy approach that they've been using up to now. And if I'm wrong, then you were raised. Man, he would have been great as a podcaster. I'm not kidding, I can voice forever, I can listen forever. It is such a great cadence. It's just a perfect tone to it would have been great.
And that's why I love doing this show with you. Because prior to you even hearing that clip, you pointed out Virginia. Yeah. And he followed up with that point that when black people start showing that we want to protect ourselves and exercise our rights given to us by the first and second amendment will actually garner more support. That's right. That's right. That's right. And that's what that's the dangerous part is
like no, no, no. Can't keep them separate. Separate it? Well, that was the little history on these kinds of things being been dumped been done all throughout history, we saw the same thing with Marcus Garvey. And how J. Edgar Hoover had it up for him. And he was for the self defense. It's lighter. It's fascinating. It's fascinating how we all fall for the same Gambit every single time. Every single time. And it's like, when, when the media shows
pictures of black men with guns in their hands. They can whip up fear. Yeah, I'll say they can whip up fear and man that in turns, you know, demonizes and makes the makes them extremists. Now this thing got, they did get attention from the government. And one of the people it did get attention from and I gotta give her props, was representative Karen Bass. And just a little background on Ms. Karen Bass. She is She's a Democrat, and also a member of the Black
national caucus, the Black Caucus. Yep, she represents Culver City, south south, south Los Angeles. And, um, one interesting thing I saw about her, she was the acting chair of the subcommittee on crime, terrorism and homeland security. So I just found that interesting, but for for this show, she's gonna be the big bay. Okay, so if she actually took God, she called, she called a, a form on highlighting our black identity stream on stream ism.
I don't believe black identity extremists exists. And I believe that the FBI should retract the document, and should send out a document throughout law enforcement saying that black identity extremists do not exist. They kick they gave no information to us as to how they came up with that category. And to me, what they really need to be concerned about is white identity extremists, but that seems mystified.
Oh, there we go. It's working. It does. Because if you highlight one group than the other, that group is going to point out all the represent so called represented that group is going to point out what about the other side's coordinates? Say, oh, yeah, you're right. Let's investigate everybody. Just called American extremists, identity extremists, whatever.
It's horrible. Yes. And like I said, she did have this form. And um, she, I have to give her credit, because she did bring attention to how this thing was just thrown together, rolled out to law enforcement, and it was like, What are we supposed to do? Who are we looking for? I mean, usually when you have you're doing some kind of investigation in you know, like, What's the motive was the who are the perps? You know, that kind of thing. It's
like now it's just a group. At that time they say anything extreme. Now we have the right to him when we got him. Yeah, we got one. That's a that's a very dangerous premise. And the way this works is, in my mind, a lot of these groups overlap. You have members that are members of two or more groups. So once you start connecting in that chain to well, they're in
organization, ABC. And also, you know, you could spider women back spider web it and show this so called huge organization which may have some actual interlinking connections. But again, the original premise is just what's what's, what's extremism, and what's identity in this case. Right, it made us clearly identified those two terms for you. But let's go back to some more highlights from the form.
The point of the document is that it's saying that black identity extremists are organized to kill law enforcement officers. My concern about it is, especially since it was distributed to law enforcement around the country, is that I consider the declaration of open season on young black activists that I have a particular concern about, especially people who were involved in the Black Lives Matter movement, or any movement that's trying to hold police
accountable. That reminded me of my days here in Los Angeles, as a young activist, protesting the LAPD and the level of repression that we went through, there was nobody we could talk to during those years. And so I feel a very personal responsibility to make sure that that document is retracted. Not. So let me just understand a few things. First of all, do you know what the actual document is that's being referred to continuously here is a leak if that leaked, the running theme in this whole
administration and how the media has covered it? It's a leaked document. Okay. Have we actually ever seen the document that does not mean the document or the document? Yeah. Well, I'll say this Opsahl copies, but I couldn't validate that was the official document. I'll say that, because you've seen it posted online, but I'm not sure if that's, and I didn't want to report it, you know, right. As if I can't validate it. Right. Which How do you validate a
leaked document? Is your document I'm going to refer to so and who was running the F. Now this is, this is before Trump was elected when this was put into place, was it not? No, it was 2017 when it came out. Okay, but they were referring back to things that happened. Well, no, no, the Dallas shooting was was under Trump. No, that was under Obama, and Obama. And this is part of it. This is part of the story, because it's like, why did you think start cropping up right at the end of of Obama's
administration going into the 2016 elections? So I don't know if you're, if you have this covered, was it James Comey still running the FBI? At that point? It must have been Yes. It had to be because he carried over, carry over. Wow, mommy's lap. Ah, this is something that is underreported. I'm sure it is even more reason why the left the more liberal side of media had no reason to. I mean, this is like stop and fix on steroids. Yes, it is. Yes, it is. But let's let Karen Bass finish up.
Well, with our form, the numbers suggest that 83% of the shots fire as incidents we've had since 2009, a right wing extremists. And so again, as we as I'm challenged to the report here, and trying to be fair, I'm just trying to understand where this data came from and how they put it together. Right, exactly. And they can't answer that. How could you distribute a document to law enforcement agencies around the country? Exactly. What is that category based on? When it comes to
terrorism? It seems like it's only called terrorism if you're a person of color, especially if you're Muslim. See, my love for her was short lived. Yeah. And it ended right there. When she broke my heart, doing so well. We're talking about BI E. And as I always say, they use us to open the door. We'll have holding the door. And it's the classic example. Yeah. Well, the conversation started around Bie. And now it pivots back to Muslims. Yeah, well, I'll color a color people.
Hey, thanks. Thanks for holding the door open, y'all. Oh, y'all welcome. Good work. That Well, good on Karen man, Karen Bass. I gotta give her props call that we have when good work. And so I have some clips from the actual form. That was the highlights. It was a four minute video highlighting you know, the things that were discussed in a form, but I have some clips from her talking to Mr. Jeff Sessions. And and this is a The clip if bath bath if there's FBI report on black identity extremist.
Okay, so you're not you haven't necessarily read the report, but you are familiar with the term black identity extremists? Well, I think so, yes. So can you tell me what that term means to you? Do you believe that there is a movement of African Americans that identify themselves as black identity extremists? And what does that move into? Well, I'd be interesting to see the conclusions of that report.
But I'm aware that there are groups that do have an extraordinary commitment to their racial identity, and some have transformed themselves even into violent activist. And that was sessions. Yes, sessions. Right. So sessions, Attorney General came in after Loretta Lynch when Trump the Trump administration started. Correct. Right. And in the way they framed this term is this is from Trump's FBI. Oh, he's like, no, please call me.
Yeah, this is not Trump's FBI. Right. They shape they shaped it very well to you know, exclude anybody that they're friendly to? Well. So let's just let her let's finish out her talking with sessions. Could you name an African American organization that have committed violent acts against police officers? Could you name one today in this report? They name organizations from 3040 years ago, but can you name a one today that has targeted police officers in a violent manner? Wu Tang Clan?
I believe I could, but I would want to be to confirm that and submit it to you in writing. But I believe we had within the last year or so for police officers killed by a group that some have described as extremist, what has happened is, is that there have been a couple of instances in which African Americans did kill police officers were not associated with a black organization. And so one, for example, in Baton Rouge was associated with sovereign citizens, which is primarily a white group.
So you even heard Jeff Sessions say there are we had a couple of events and yeah, yeah, cut out these two events. They created a whole identity not even he said that he only mentioned one didn't he like the foreign thing in Dallas and out that he was waiting for? I think he was referring to Dallas. It was five. Yeah, okay. Yeah. And there were three and three in Baton Rouge. Maybe he just
rounded he was like, okay, average of four. I don't know how you got to the fort number, but he couldn't even name a group. If you have a. If you have a real threat, you can say okay, just to say instance, I'm a radical Islamic terrorism, you could say you have the Taliban and you have al Qaeda, you know, go down the list, right? Oh, but now he couldn't even give one he's like a kid submitted in writing, which had me I had to help them. I go look up one. And what
was this? Was this a congressional hearing? Yes. Okay. So he was probably caught off guard by this. Yeah, cuz he didn't even he didn't even know. I don't think he's in the previous one. I didn't clip sounds like he didn't. He didn't know of the report. Okay. Okay. Which I find strange is well, but the optics is there you have Jeff Sessions, who's if you had to cast the racist in a movie, I'm just saying I'm not saying he is racist or not is or isn't
racist. What he picks that casting we always talk about show up. Oh, totally, totally. You have the southern accent, older white man. And he's like, oh, yeah, you know, he has kind of the physique of a garden gnome. You know, all the things that you just like, he's like, Oh, I can I can hate that guy. That's easy to do.
Yep. So here we are. And before we actually get into those events that he alluded to, I want to give a little clip have we not we've heard we saw the videos with Black Lives Matter. Colin cops, pigs and yes, was it baked bacon something let them fry? Oh, yeah. Here peek we saw let him fry. Yeah. I want to make one point before we play the next clip. One. I think a lot of this racial identity. Protesting is a form of cosplay. That's my personal opinion.
I see that. It's the same with Antifa. I find that that's also a lot of cosplay. So the what happens is you Have these organizations like Black Lives Matter, so I'm not letting them off the hook in any form of fashion because I know who they represent. They go out, they get people in the streets, and then they have their agitators come out while in the group, throw a rock, throw a bottle, whatever else and then it calls his group. herd mentality and
dislike all hell breaks loose. Yeah. So I'm not taking a jump jump provocateur. Thank you, sir. But what I will say is, there was also very nasty and vicious language, specifically for Fox. But what they will bring on these black law enforcement officers, and they will use some of the most well just get into the next clip, Sheriff, your reaction to some of the some of the sentiments you heard on the streets on Saturday? Well, it's just crazy talk. That's ignorance in its purest
form. You know, I think we need to rethink the strategy. I don't know why the police even bother policing those demonstrations or not protest those people advocate for the overthrow of our legally constituted government. Let them fit, let them fend for themselves. But the good life law abiding people of New York, clashed with them for disrupting their lives, disrupting their businesses, then the police can show up and arrest the subhuman creeps for creating a disturbance that we
can do. Now which sheriff was this? Best Sheriff Clark? Clark, who was black? Yes. Oh, and he's a butter biscuit. Bad carrying eater hat where you forgot hat where? Yeah, where he is. And the reason why I say that is to come. When you talk about groups, you have to use nuance. And I tried to do that, to show not to print with a wide brush. Any group? Because as I explained before, you have a lot of good people on both sides. Yes,
fine. People. I think the term is fine. Give me five people, five people on both sides. Yeah, because a lot of people are frustrated, and they just won't go out in the street and let out their frustrations. And it may be cosplay, but it's it's therapeutic. Those people are not violent. They just want to have the feel like they have impact. They have an impact on something. So they go out with their signs. And a lot of I will say 90% of the people out there are just want to exercise their
First Amendment Amendment rights. But for a guy like this to call them subhuman. And then later on call them garbage. Yeah. Well, he said all I mean, he was talking about all of them, not just the he didn't, you know, specifically say the agitators or the violent people or those allow me to give you a perspective from from, from my point of view. Okay. Until we started this show, I would have always thought of Sheriff David Clarke as a man, there's a cool
guy, you know, he's not taking any crap. He, he seems pretty down to earth. But the more I start to learn, and as you said the butter biscuits. He's taking license, he's actually abusing his own skin color, to give himself license to use these terms, which I find by itself offensive. And what was even more rubs me the wrong way is if he was talking about the Bundy Ranch, or the standoff, you know, with white right wing groups. He wouldn't use the term subhuman.
I mean, that in itself has connotations of subhuman human beings into the Tentler. Will not zactly goes back to that. I'm glad you said that. So when you use that term, it's like you. You borderline on premise yourself. Sound you just made set it all right. Yeah, it irks me because we can I come here and I point out flaws on both sides. We can do that. But don't don't don't denigrate people, especially people that are trying to just
watch the first, first right first amendment rights. Alright, so now, one question based upon what he said. Do you think it's possible he was referring purely to the Zhaan provocateurs who show up within the group and calling them out as subhuman or did you really come across to you as he's calling the whole everybody subhuman? To be fair because I said a lot about him. Can we listen to the last maybe 20 seconds of that clip so we can hear exactly how he framed that?
Yeah, let's Let's do that because I thought he gave himself some leeway possibly hold on. Let me let them fit, let them fend for themselves. But the good life law abiding people of New York, clashed with them for disrupting their lives, disrupting their businesses, then the police can show up and arrest the sub human creeps for creating a disturbance that we can do. Go back just a little bit further home. Well, it's just crazy talk. That's ignorance in its purest
form. You know, I think we need to rethink the strategy. I don't know why the police even bother policing those demonstrations are not protest those people advocate for the overthrow of are legally constituted. Okay, so he's grouping them all together there. All right. That's pretty clear. Pretty clear. I'm glad we did that. Just to be clear, and that's how I took it. But I was wanting to make sure that I wasn't a no, no, you got it. You got it.
Alright, so now we have to set the stage is set. Oh, we're trying to figure out how we got to be ice. We've heard kind of the tone on the right hand side. We clearly know what the tone on the on the pro Black Lives Matter pro anti police side is because it was highly spread out in in August and reported and discussed. Correct. So let's just get into what happened in Dallas. We begin with breaking news in Dallas, Texas, where at least five police officers were killed when they were ambushed by at
least two snipers. The shooting began near the end of a protest over the fatal police shootings of black men in Louisiana and Minnesota. Six other officers and a civilian were injured. Police are questioning at least three alleged suspects and Manuel Bohorquez is in downtown Dallas, when well what is the latest?
Well, Anne Marie some breaking news. Now we're learning that the fourth suspect a man who was holed up inside a parking garage not too far from where we are has now died of a self inflicted gunshot wound. He had apparently been exchanging gunfire with officers but we're learning that he has now died from a self inflicted gunshot wound. As you mentioned, the gunfire erupted in downtown Dallas with no warning turning this place into a war zone and still very much resembling one right now.
Official saying the intent of the shooters was to kill as many officers as possible. Yeah, didn't go in wasn't like a robot that went around the corner and shot him or scary even carry easy. I'm sorry. Sorry, guys. Let me just put them on. Hold on a second. I got them right here. Okay, let's stick with the news narrative as it's reported. So we have two shooters. Yeah. And the one of the shooters killed himself with self inflicted gunshot wound. That's what we have. Right. That's
what we got now. Yes. Okay, so let's get into the next clip. Police say this was a coordinated attack. At least two snipers. From elevated positions as the protest rally March ended, began firing upon officers ambush style. As the gunfire rang out, police use their patrol cars for cover as they moved in to help wounded officers.
We believe that the suspects were positioning themselves in a way to triangulate on these officers from two different purchase in garages in the downtown area and planned to injure and kill as many law enforcement officers as they could. I never really heard this part of the story. Maybe I came in late or something and I only heard the resolutions of it interesting. This is July 8 2016. And the shooting happened on July 7, so this is right off right after the shooting. Right. We have
multiple shooters. triangulating which I don't know how you triangulate with two shooters but and then it's a cool term to throw out there. But we have multiple shooters and we have one of the shooters killing themselves with this and this is from the shirt that was a sharp talking. That wasn't I'm not what me Excuse me. I think police chief police chief Yeah, but that yeah, that was that wasn't like some conspiracy theory website. Police Chief of Dallas who I think also is black. Yes,
he is. Yeah. But yeah, we have multiple shooters one killer himself what if self inflicted gunshot wounds and that counters the narrative that you heard, which you may have heard in this next clip, and this morning we are getting new video and new eyewitness accounts of the fear as well as the heroism during the shooting in Dallas. We have team coverage this morning. And we do begin with ABC is Matt Gutman right there on the ground in downtown
Dallas. Good morning, Matt. Good morning, Paul on that fear and heroism you mentioned was intensified by the fact that city officials thought they were under siege by an unknown number of gunmen that night now that they know it was a lone gunman. Officials are focusing on investigating how he did this and patching Dallas back together. There's a sniper from up here somewhere. It's a sniper this morning as agents comb the streets for evidence. They're learning more about the gunman.
There was confusion with everybody running around. But this was a mobile shooter who police che began blasting away shortly after this peaceful demonstration in Dallas on Thursday. Yeah, I do. Shooter Yeah, all I just crazy Mo i. I remember there was a lot of confusion, but I never heard the sheriff say so clearly multiple. I thought it was like one of those Fog of War maybe the first 30 minutes or so they thought that but that was the day after and this is two days after. Then all of a sudden
everyone everyone got their story straight. Okay, we go here's what it is boys. Yeah. It's one shooter or a loan and they use the term loan loan matter. Known shooter lone shooter. They say it was a saint that is able to single shooter. It's the lone shooter. What about the other people that were questioning? They say they were questioning three other suspects what what happened with that? And the reason why I'm saying this is I want you to put on
your black conspiracy theory hat. And you hear like, because when these things happen, people follow them closely. I was multiple shooters I was going on and then you come back and just change the whole narrative. That was a long shoot lower shooter a year. Yeah. That's smack of J. Edgar Hoover that mean that Jake, who excuse me, I'm James Earl Ray that smacks of the JFK assassination. You know, it's like it always goes back to this one is, especially the connotation of Dallas. Yeah.
I imagine that that was missed on me. Thank you for pointing that out. So we have a now we're down to one shooter. No mentioned that the three suspects and the curious question of how he was killed. Dallas PD shutting down the airspace over town thinking this was an ambush with multiple shooters. Somebody is really armed to the team as there's not one person, but it was one shooter, Micah Xavier Johnson. Mr. Johnson had written manifestos on how to shoot move.
You see him in this video advancing with deadly efficiency on this officer firing the officer gun down the toll 14th Shot 12 of them officers. Five of the officers died towards midnight SWAT teams finally corner Johnson on the second floor of El Centro College suspect's data he wants to kill white people, especially white officers, negotiations break down then police use an explosive mounted on a robot similar to this one to kill Johnson for the first time in history.
I remember that that was that's the part that I focused on when I heard that I'm like oh and by the way weren't the two of the five cops killed more than a black? I'm not sure. I think you're just going by memory. I'm just going by man. That was in I think the black cops were killed in Baton Rouge but maybe I'm not for sure. But I want to that last clip. I want to pick it apart piece by piece. Okay, first of all, you have a shooter he hit 14 People 12 of them
being cops. That means he had to be a crack shot all those people running around and that all that melee and chaos and you can hit let's just proceed to the man's name is Micah Xavier Johnson right? Yeah. If you shorten that up you got mica X. Nice. That's like current code. Now I'm just saying well, that's what registered with me because when you hide when you abbreviate the middle name, Micah X. Yeah, you got my eggs. Wait, that's great. It leaves it to himself.
And then you have this. One day ago you said he killed himself was self inflicted gunshot wound. How'd you get that wrong? I don't understand how that one piece? Well, I mean, I'm not surprised that the media gets it wrong. The question is, where did they get the report from? Was it from the from the official police and previous clips, they had the briefing of the police officer. So it's like, you can ask them the question. How did he How did he die? Smells cover up.
They use one pound a C four on a robot. Oh, yeah. A pound to blow this manned up upon. Make sure he wasn't recognizable. That's for sure. As Jay strain is hella strange. He's like, you see for first time in history. Yeah. They said on a robot. After the communication break, you haven't corner because I mean, they hadn't cornered. I mean, he couldn't get out. After an hour, you just say okay, um, yeah, sending the robot. What? Yeah, that doesn't make any sense.
And I don't I don't I have never heard of the robot being used since actually, you I have not either. We've had many standoffs with shooters. Effort per day. I mean, we had some that lasts for days, even. And they don't send the robot in. But as this case starts to unravel, we get even more details about the gunman. freelance reporter Steve Futterman is in Dallas, and he joins me now live. So Steve, what do we know about the suspects that was killed?
Well, his name is Micah Johnson 25 years old from the Dallas area. In fact, he celebrated his 25th birthday this past weekend. We have now learned a bit more about him. He was in the army for a number of years, apparently spent some time either in Afghanistan or Iraq. But the very interesting thing we've learned in the past hour from from law enforcement sources is what he was armed with. He had an assault rifle, a
semi automatic assault rifle. He had a handgun, and apparently was dressed in body armor, which makes everyone believed he knew exactly what he was going to do when he came to the protests last night. Yeah, it's kind of distressing to hear all this again. So for the listeners out there, I told you remember that Military Connection Yes. Now we have the our think rockin was
the other guy's name the FBI. He was it was rain. Yeah, they put it out there all he's military, former military for military. Now we have mica X Johnson, former military. You know, again, if we were in the meeting, you'd be like, Hey, man, let's come up with a cool name for this cat. Alright, so I'm like Malcolm X. Alright, Mike X. Yeah, but we got to make sure everyone always really black Johnson. All right. That's it, man. Perfect. We're good to go.
It writes itself. It does. It really does. So it's like okay, now we have this guy. He's moving around body armor, assault rifle, two pistols. He's making these difficult shots. Cops are taking triangulation, the triangulation. Oh, and one thing I meant, Miss that the cop said in a previous clip his manifesto. I mean, after all, did he ever did he ever publish one? Did he republish a manifesto? Well, his manifesto was more of his tactical how he was going to
do it. But they just relabeled it as a manifesto said, Well, of course that's what you do. That's what you do. It's just all too convenient. And like, I'm thinking, and this is 2017. So I'm saying this thing with the in a mind. And it's like, hey, what, what is going on here? Like, who is this guy? His manifesto was a very angry rant against white people. That's it. So we have and there was one drop by that last supporter or may last reporter. He didn't use the term mica X
Johnson. Michael, we get on cold. You know, if you don't call it a Philly, you have to put the X in there. Otherwise, people might think you're not a part of it. Right. Which could be true for that guy. Yeah, if I can say that. Well, we all we know. All the shooters always get 3d printed, which I don't know who came up with that anyway, but always named his race fit perfectly. Yeah. And so now we have a shooter that's blown up with one pound of sea
for at the hour standoff. Yes. And he's former military. Yep. And now he got to connect and we got to connect a mo. Well, let's go and connect him to an atom. We're getting a closer look at his motive and what
investigators found inside his home. Authorities say this is the deadly sniper Micah Xavier Johnson, a former military man who went hunting for police, specifically white officers, there appears to have been one gunman, with no known links to or inspiration from any international terrorist organization. Law enforcement sources tell ABC News Johnson was armed for his shooting spree with an assault rifle and two handguns been a tale of cowardice. By and assess Johnson served
in the Army Reserve from 2009 until 2015. Doing a tour in Afghanistan. According to police, his Facebook page reveals some of that rage against police. He liked a page which said, quote, kill everything blue that moves overnight police search Johnson is home in Mesquite, Texas police say they found bomb making materials ballistic vests, rifles, ammunition and a personal journal of combat tactics was
a well planned, well thought out. Evil tragedy, Michael Johnson sister took to Facebook writing quote, the news will say what they think but those who knew him know this wasn't like him. They see the manifesto was now turned into a notebook. Yeah, that's interesting. They've screwed up on that report. And that's the connectivity that we're talking about. So now you have this guy that went and done this violent act independently if you want to believe the the media narrative, but the fact
that he likes somebody on Facebook, yeah. Oh, that just proves it. Let's start let's start digging into who he likes on social media. And that's now we can brute roll out this term. Bi E. And by guilty by association. Those people are put on a list. Yes, you see, you see and then who they follow become Bie Yes, of course. That's how it works. Yeah. Well, especially for the FBI who clearly creating work
for themselves. Hmm. And like I said, as long as you have the and we saw this with the war on drugs, and everything is just like you need just you need bodies to put in front of the camera. They say you're doing your job and nothing really gets fixed. But we've seen We've seen this all before. But there was one interesting fact that it was not reported as much as you think it would. But the shooter left behind a message. Thanks that this killer obviously had some delusion.
There was quite a bit of rambling in the journal. That's hard to decipher. I can just add at the scene where he was killed. There was a pause he wrote some lettering and blood on the walls. Which leads us to believe he was wounded on the way up the stairwell on the second floor of the El Centro building and where we detonated the device to end the standoff there there was more lettering written in his own blood. What did he write we are we are trying to decipher that but he
wrote the letters are B are being in we don't RV Yes. So we're trying to figure out through looking at things in his home what those initials mean. But we haven't determined that yet. Yes, I remember that RB RB was that the only thing I thought there was more that he had written? No that was that was all that they reported that he read wrote and blood and two separate places. RB. So I started doing the digging like what what is rb mean? I can't know not know what
this means. So they had some theories. One of the less agreed upon theories is he wrote RB for robot mom. Yes. Yeah. Remember that one? Yep. Which is fair. I mean, that's fair. But the most widely reported by USA Today heavy Daily Mail and other groups. It stood for our B, G, now also known as red, black and green. He just didn't he didn't finish the G because then he got blowed up.
And in two places. How do you make that stretch? It's like RB or don't have time to write the G that you read somewhere else. But these news agencies wrote Oh, yeah, it's the for our red, black, black and green, which is the Pan African pan Africanist colors. So now if you have any association to red, black, black and green Hello, Jamaica. Yeah. You know your website if you have read Like and green or anything with those colors, now you get knocked into the group.
This is all too convenient. Wow. And like I said these are heavy hitting news agency theory that reported is almost as fat which didn't make any sense. He would at least would have finished one of them as RBG best what he meant when he just put RB in two separate places and nests and it kind of, as you know, with any narrative that they roll out, it just sticks of course and so it was it was a it was red, black and green cheese. So that wraps
up the Dallas, Dallas shooting. And right 10 days later, we have this event we want to get to the tragedy. in Baton Rouge three police officers killed at a deadly assault three more injured after a gunman attacked them at a busy intersection. Terrified witnesses hiding in the car capturing the ambush on cell phone video before the shooter was taken down. Amy Robach on the scene for us there in Louisiana with the latest. Good morning Amy.
That's right. Good morning Robin and the headline of advocate here in Baton Rouge says that all senseless the carnage began here behind me after police officers responded to a 911 call about a suspicious looking man carrying guns. When those battens officers arrived they were targeted shot and three of them killed.
At 840 For the first shots rang out. Just two moments earlier Baton Rouge Police scrambled to this busy intersection after receiving a 911 call about a man dressed all in black armed with a rifle and a semi automatic pistol when officers arrived the suspect 29 year old former Marine Gavin long began to fire another Marine go figure arm in the same fashion. Yep. As as Mike X Johnson, a assault rifle and a handgun. Yeah
10 days later. He drove out from St. Louis to Baton Rouge. He wasn't even originally from Baton Rouge, right but Rouge was the hotbed because Alton Sterling shooting Yeah, it's strike strike is strange, I tell you. No, no, it is and I mean, I was focused on other things. I remember I was you know, it's like, there's so much was
exploding around this. It was and we were just figuring out that we really only figured out in with the Louisiana stuff that you know, black lives matter was a Soros outfit and you know the I mean right down to the founder of BLM living in a Soros house you know, that's the stuff I was looking at then didn't even look at this is very interesting. Why like it. So we have two people with the intent and the thing throughout American history. We haven't had that many black militant black
radical shootings of cops. Well, there hasn't been that many cops killed since 911. That was a humongous No I mean, I was five eight it was a big number. And then within two days maintain Excuse me 10 days you have two shooters armed in the same fashion doing highly tactical shootings of police officers was similar bad there were similar backgrounds, ex military, the army the same fashion and they have a quote unquote pro black ideology.
Now let me guess was this What was his name? Gavin long Gavin long. Did he like some bad groups on Facebook? I'm just guessing. Ah, we're gonna get there but let's get into his ex marine background. The suspect who fatally shot three officers in Baton Rouge on Sunday before being killed by police has been identified as a former Marine Sergeant Gavin long a 29 year old African American man was according to a person briefed on the investigation from Kansas City and affiliated with an anti
government group. This image was published on a Twitter account linked to a website called Convos with Cosmo dot club, a site registered by a person identified as Gavin long from Kansas City. In a tweet posted on Sunday, it reads just because you wake up every morning doesn't mean that you're living. And just because you shed your physical body doesn't mean that you're dead. Sunday shootings happened at a shopping center
not far from the Baton Rouge Police Headquarters. Apparently officers saw a man carrying a rifle and dressed all in black standing behind a beauty supply store. We do not have a pony on the shooter. He is not in fight. Cyber Police now believe the gunman lured the officers there to ambush them. Sunday shooting comes just two weeks after police in Baton Rouge shot and killed black man, Alton
Sterling, an incident that led to protests in the city. It also follows another police shooting in Dallas last week, where five officers were killed and nearly a dozen injured. Yeah, remember, it was like an ambush situations coming back to me now. And that's the term that was used in both cases. Ambush ambush. Yeah. And they say he was linked to a anti government
group. I think this is a term they use what they didn't specify that was a majority white, quote unquote, anti government group, because that's the one that I'm Karen Bass refer to and heroclip. But they just left it as is as well. And if you just do the mental jump, oh, I had to be a black group he was associated with, you know, we have this. Of course, we're trained to think this now. Yeah. And you asked the previous question his connection to his
activity online. Yeah. Was he liking anything anything bad on face bag, where he left online trail, a trail putting it more on the gunman. Now a military veteran who posted threatening videos may have had ties to militant groups. Maybe he's chief investigative correspondent Brian Ross has the latest Convos with Cosmo that's me. Using the pseudonym Cosmo, the shooter Gavin Eugene long posted this video online. The day after the five police officers in Dallas were shot and killed. It's
a time for peace. But it's a time for war. And most of the times when you want peace, you gotta go to war. Overnight police and the FBI were at the home of long in Kansas City, Missouri, where neighbors described him as a quiet man divorced with children. government document showed long was a military veteran who served five years in the Marines, including tours in Japan and Iraq. And police say the Sunday Morning Ambush showed signs of being
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theory Yes. Manchurian Candidate How much do you actually know about your friend I served under him he was a good man that's what the neighbors always say about serial killers.
Somebody put an implant inside me I got a good for the people wanting you to you need to get open not crazy Shah Raymond This is Jamie Johnson of Manchurian global for strong supporters to flick the switch we can adjust character change personality these are not supposed to exist Raymond Prentice show listen this is a cool this is rich people on the bad science to put sleeper in the White House among the shareholders in Manchurian global you would find
former presidents opposed Kings I get it they're big they're huge. You bring me rumors and conjecture I started with nightmares rumors conjectures that's a giant leap forward. Somebody got into our heads neurons got got got exposed and circuits got wide. I think you should leave I gotta find out what's going to happen where it's gonna happen. It's delusional. To watch where you go. You swore to me that this was failsafe no leaks no
glitches. I will do whatever is necessary to protect my son's we're going to stop this and take them out. They factored you in captain, do you remember me? Wow. Okay, so I haven't seen both the Frank Sinatra version, which is no way is cool when it comes to sound effects. Den. This is a Denzel Washington version. I guess. I don't know of any other one. Yeah, yes. 2004. The trailer from the previous version didn't have any sound sounded
Oh, neither did the movie. Movie was not that great. I mean from by today's technical standards, but it was of course the brainwashing of a vet. A former marine or military? Yeah, just say military former soldiers. Yeah. Brainwash, but by who? In the movie? Yes. But what's operation? Yes, yeah. Oh, that's Manchurian Corporation. Correct? Yes, I remember now. Yes. So now this is where this is where I reach Oh, you call it a reach. But I have receipts. So I don't even give a damn they're
gonna fire it up. But he doesn't need No, not yet. Okay. Well, I did see here is in the movie. You have a corporation made up of former President billionaires. So I'm not looking at the government here on this. We're going into 2016 election. We see George Soros has pumped billions of dollars into this whole Black Lives Matter movement. Yes. What's to say? They're not organizations or factions out there that will go the next step to trigger individuals which these two will
be perfect. candidates you have hyper, hyper angry anger. They're very Oh, yeah. Trump traumatized by war and has all the right elements. Sure. Yeah. They have the functionality of being former soldiers. I mean, for long periods of time, I think one was like five years, almost four years. You can easily build a profile online on these two. You can say that, no, this, this is the type of person we want to push over the edge. Now, this is the point where everybody's saying, Come on Mo.
No, I'm not liking it. I like where this is going. So what I did was, I went and found Mr. Gavin's Long's first YouTube video. First off self preservation. The first law nature is the same thing. Same way as when America, they put you on a mainstream, they put on the mainstream media that has a new tyrant, a new enemy, and a go and physically do an assault on that country is the same thing. And it's the same way how when I was in the Marines, I went and fought, you know, foot foot foot United
States. Because it was a so called enemy. So it's no other it's not different from someone fighting against you and assaulting you and you protecting yourself is the same way. There's nothing wrong with it. You got the right to defend yourself at any moment. If someone is assaulting you, and gang stalking is an assault on you physically, mentally, spiritually, emotionally and psychologically. So you got a right to defend yourself at any moment. You got a right to
preserve Yes. To preserve your life at any moment you choose, and you're gonna be right. Okay, so he's talking about sub being psychologically abused. Gavin long, said he was a victim of gang stalking. Yeah. Which is, as he said in the clip is psychological abuse. Did you hear this reported anywhere? No, of course, not Mo. I didn't even I thought they would have deleted his YouTube channel by now. That's crazy. I'm amazed I found this. Interesting. That is very interesting.
And what I find it even more interesting is if I'm wanting to build a case against Gavin long, right? I'm gonna say, this guy's crazy. Because he said he was gangster and gang stalking is clearly show that he's not real. And he shows signs of mental illness. I'll say. Why did they take that angle? It was no, I mean, because you can easily make that case. And it's like,
one plus one is two. He was a quote unquote. He thought he was being gang stalked, but that was signs of mental illness, which led to him doing what he did wrap it up a nice bow and it's over here. Well, we can't have that. That's not what that's not. Right. Well, what what why would he think he was Gangstar? Let's just take him for his word. Okay, let's get into the second YouTube clip. I follow nature, I'm in tune with nature. Nowhere in nature,
you go see a goddamn lion. Protest And when a gang of hyenas come to attack his ass, he will be peaceful protests and holding up signs, you're not going to see it in nature anywhere. Because self preservation is the first law of nature. Every animal in nature, I know human beings are not animals. But you have the right to preserve yourself. You can choose to or you can you don't have to fight back. That's that's the difference between human beings and animals. You
have the choice, you see. But if you choose to fight back, there are no consequences. So that's the difference. So a lot of teachers don't even know that harassment is a felony. Stalking with harassment is a damn felony. That's a felony charge. You definitely have the right to defend yourself. And if someone is and you know, gang stalking is they're trying to tempt you. They're trying to make you attempt suicide. That's attempted murder. If someone is trying to tempt you to force to
force you into suicide, isn't that attempted murder? Come on now. Let's open our eyes get it together a defend yourself at all costs. Stand in your righteousness die in your righteousness period. Wow. You know, June 10 2016. So this is before before all this?
Yes, this is his very first YouTube video, right but he's where he leaves off with but I'm saying I'm seeing an article up from June 10 2016, New York Times about a guy who complained that he was being gang stalked, and he uses the term T eyes, which I just heard in. Yes, in this video, and that stands for targeted individual.
This is some paranoid stuff, man. Now, of course, it may be true, but this is people who believe that you're walking around and people bump into you on purpose, and they're targeting you and they're harassing you, and you're a TI a targeted individual. And there's groups of people who feel that they are also targeted individuals by this gang stalking. And this is so widespread and just this this add on to the point you made. You remember the Naval Shipyard? Yes, yeah, that was another crazy one.
He was saying they were using Lova low frequency voices in his head. Right? He changed the hotel room three times. And he even took and carved on his shotgun. It was a low energy something weapon. So I mean, we say these people, they're saying something. And not like I said, I either he's mentally ill, which will explain why he did what he did. Or he's actually a TI, which explains why he did what he did when we