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foster Moe facts with Adam curry for March 7 2020 This is episode number 28. Fresh back from California yay from the Joe Rogan show. I gave us a little plug there Ma. I heard I heard and I gotta thank you man. You have no idea you have no idea how much street cred you gave me. Because I'm well on this very show you know you threw in a little Dhalsim sound effect on
one of your clips. Yoga fine yoga flame. Yeah. And so that was in my head and then all sudden that came out and I was looking at the YouTube comments on the on the Rogan interview. People like oh, man, big up to the curry with a Street Fighter to reference. All right. So I look cool with the kids, man. I'm indebted I appreciate it. Gamer curry. Well, I played that for a whole I think I told you I played it for a whole summer with Bill Bellamy you know Bill Bellamy,
the comedian. Oh yeah, yeah, he was on MTV at the time. And we we were we were at the beat while he was really good. And we were at the MTV beach house. And you know there's a lot of downtime we actually staying at the beach house and for some reason he and I just we would just play Street Fighter all the time. So that's my cred. How are you my friend? I am doing well. Coronavirus didn't get you didn't Crona free Yeah, you're all good. Didn't
get you down yet. Okay. So it's been doing well. Okay. got excited for you being on Rogan and getting the plug and people finally getting you getting the credit that you deserve being a PA You're too kind to kind. But yes, it was a renewal card is what I told Joe, to Thanks, man. Thanks for renewing my credibility. I'll come back in 10 years. I need another one by then. People forget. Yeah. Who knows? We'll be the pod father by them. All right. I suggest we get this show underway and I
ramp up. We'll have topics where it stops. Nobody knows. But where does stop that's where we goes. Making it up on the spot. The topic for today's mo facts with Adam curry is crack cocaine, this big business and it's been crime. Are we finally going to look at the music business and their evil ways. Actually, we're gonna look at the drug epidemic being the crack era. And the reason why I'm diving into this is we
talked about stop and frisk on the last show we did. And to understand that we had I wanted people to understand how we got to that point of needing stop and frisk. So that was brought on by the crack air. Yes. So as a backgrounder I found presented by snowfall, the TV show on FX, they had a little special car. Here's how the crack epidemic brought a city to his knees. My name is Aaron Williams. I'm a journalist from Compton, California. I've been researching the effects of the
crack epidemic for over a decade. Crack is the processed version of the partying drug cocaine in rock form. I did try it and from that moment on, I was chasing the initial high, it goes directly to the pleasure center of your brain. There's just no escape from it once you're addicted.
It was so profitable to sell crack. Everybody lost their minds $1 $2 $3 motion with a young baby mama and broke babies increasingly violent gangs riots, the Crips and the Bloods have swarmed eastward the use of crack increasing quickly fearlessly setting up an open air drug market, the reaction of mainstream America was oh my god, we have to fix this immediately. I can't wait to hear your take on this topic. Mo i know some about it, of course, because of the Iran Contra and how how the
drugs came in. So I know one side of the story, but I'm sure there's a lot you're going to expose us to. Yes, I want to get to the human side of the story and also examine some of the characters that are rarely mentioned in the whole crack era in drug war on drugs epidemic that that occurred. So this show snowfall it covers like the creation of crack and a fictional type way. So they did a little background on on the event itself. So I guess we'll get into part two of
this. This clip work every day to plot a new and better way to steal our children's lives. And that was right around the time the deer came out the egg in the skillet. This is your brain 1000s of dollars of cash and firearms. Enough is enough. Trying to fix things without knowing how they are broken in the first place is a great way to break them worse. You had Ronald Reagan getting involved retribution must be swift and shoot. For those who decide to make a career of preying on the innocent.
You have the militarized police. I've seen plenty of raids in my lifetime. Have you ever seen the movie straight out of Compton where the TNG Rams in the dorm that was right around the corner from my house? I remember thinking that's a house people live there. If you're caught with rock cocaine, they were getting these sentences for 25 years. You've got to have mandatory Reusch you got to show people If you arrest them, we're gonna keep them.
We also going to help Joe Biden get elected with this show for his involvement. godless curry Damn it hold on a second we put him on. No, okay, I'm focused, I'm back. No stall will be left on terror. And by the end of this show, that's why I said about the characters that are rarely we know about Reagan, we know about Bush, we know about Oliver North. But we're going to look at some of the names that you
don't hear brought up in both sides of the crack epidemic. One being the crime bill and then the other side being the actual well, we'll get to that. Um, it's man, it was it was terrible. I mean, I was born in 1980. So I saw this whole thing unfold. right before my eyes. It impacted my family, family members. People that didn't use it in my community. What was it really something that just started like one day to the next? Is that how it felt? Yeah, yeah,
it really just showed up overnight. And we're gonna get into Wow, it showed up because we saw it in the media first and then it started to manifest itself in in real life. That's that's kind of how it happened. So let's just get to this final. Final backgrounder. Snowfall. Three people are going in at 20. And coming out at 45. How are we supposed to build a community that way? We had this proxy war going on a Senate investigative panel found that there were people associated
with the CIA who were involved with drug trafficking. One of the motives was to raise money for the Contras in Nicaragua. Tonight, I can report to you that we've made much progress. It's almost hard to comprehend what might have been, if not for this crack scorch that raced through Los Angeles and other major cities. Yo, so what I want to do now is we have to go back before crack, there was cocaine, powder cocaine, and that was seen as a
party drug. I mean, you probably know better than I do, because you were in the scene all the time. Although, interestingly, in seven and a half years at MTV, never was offered never saw it around the studios, etc. Of course, you know, very low, none of that. A lot of MTV itself, but that era. Oh, yeah. And it was yes. Yes, indeed. It just for reference, what was those seven years, that seven year timeframe he made 86 is when I started so 86 to 93 as somebody and 9493 94.
So that was kind of right smack in the middle of it, I'd say. So that was the kind of the end of the powder cocaine era and the beginning of the crack error. Yeah. So I wonder if that had something to do with you didn't actually see it because cocaine itself was cocaine powder. Cocaine, was the social drug was the party drug? Yes. Whereas crack was more of a hardcore addiction. Well, when when when Yo MTV Raps started. And that was that had to be around 90.
The 80s Actually, wasn't Nam. Well, the 8088 may be 89 It was later than you think. Most people think was much earlier but it wouldn't be a Yo MTV Raps, I think was okay. Yeah, late 80s. I, you know, actually, I would say there was a lot of heroin that especially the hair bands, those guys were all into Black Rock and all kinds of crazy crazy stuff. But most of the hip hop guys who came by Nah, man, I don't know. Maybe they We're just good at
hiding it. I hate to disappoint but it's not like I saw people smoke. Well, the only thing we all knew was Whitney Houston and Bobby Brown were smoking crack. We knew that right and not only think Whitney Houston was smoking crack, and that's why she was like a crack this way. There's there's something called Oh, whoops. Whoo. Oops. Yeah, that's where you put powder cocaine own weed. It's kind of like that. Okay, yes. All right. Watch if she was being the semantics of the word
like, oh, no, don't smoke crack. Right. Right. Cuz that's the thing. It's also crack. It was like a class thing. Yeah, it was for for for pain was uptown. Yeah, yeah. Crack was like the poverty stricken version of cocaine. Got it. So I just want to get into the myths and realities of cocaine.
Cocaine comes from the leaves of the coca plant found in the northern part of South America. for over 1000 years, Indians have chewed the leaves, believing them to be a gift from the gods to satisfy the hungry, strengthen the weak, and make the sad forget their sorrows. Today, according to the latest statistics from the National Survey on Drug Abuse, over 22 million Americans have used or are using cocaine. Yeah, all right.
I found this clip to be very important, and maybe we want to just even market because they originally thought the coca leaf was a gift from the gods for the hungry and the poor, and, you know, people that was down or written what we saw, right? Because it will make you feel good. And so this is the ideal drug for poverty stricken poor people, especially, quote unquote, the black community. Yeah, so when you don't, you're gonna tell me that the US
government did a study on Hey, I got a great idea. These poor fuckers over here, let's give them some crack. Well, I don't think it was that. Formal, but I think that the way that the difference between how it interacted I think there's something there. Let's get it to me, too. There are numerous methods for taking cocaine. Most popular of course, is snorting or taking it in through the nose, but it can be swallowed. It could be alcohol, it can be injected, it
can be smoked. It can be applied to any mucosal surface and you would be stunned who does cocaine everybody does cocaine. It's headlines every day I guess in the newspaper I read, they talk about it constantly. People are busting constantly. You know, John Lucci died of it. Richard Pryor catches on fire with you now. I mean, it's just, it's just a nationwide drug. In the past, you might see somebody with at a party with with a drink in their hand. And now in feature films, you see
people with coke spoons in their nose. It's obviously more intense because of the media making it more fashionable, especially when you have a celebrity or sports figures. Oh, yeah. You know, there was another symbol was the silver razorblade necklace. That was another Whoa, yeah, it was radio big back in the day. And the long pinky finger. Just thinking about it makes me all disgusted. Oh, no. dirty ass coke nail.
Well, that was rude. Because I remember as a kid, if you saw that was kind of like a telltale sign if somebody was on drugs, through their nails out, right. So, as the clip said, and this clip, this clip was from a special report from 1983. And if you notice, one of the methods of using cocaine was not mentioned was crack, right? Because crack came later, like the mid 1980s. Right? 8586, maybe a little earlier than that. But as I said, the movies, the movies were pushing the use
of cocaine. So we're going to look at the movies as a propaganda vehicle. But as you always know, we had to go back to some throwback clips. And here we have Mr. Charles Wood, aka the professor. And he gave us the real reasons behind blaxploitation. One of the other things I failed to mention was growing up. Not only did I want to be a white man, I also wanted to make love to Virginia mayo. Rhonda Fleming. These names you have to look up but brainwashed you Yes, Brother season now. I'm looking
at Pam Grier Blac Chyna Good glory Henry. Now we talking does something for us. Okay, so movies were powerful enough to make him want to be white. If you put these blacks superheroes, I mean, that's how they were kind of shown as your Superfly that shad was shot with a positive image but the matte Superfly and all these other blaxploitation characters. They were shaped the mind of the viewer of the especially the young black viewer, because those were seen as in a weird way heroes. So
why why were they why were they heroes? Because they had the they had a maid they had the you had the money. You had the women, you had the flashy lifestyle, the flashy car. It's a sense of entrepreneurialship to be in a weird way. Independent from demand, right demand. So you mean when in being involved in drugs with dealing drugs? Yes, dealing drugs? Gotcha. Gotcha. Yeah, of course. Oh, all right. Being me, I just made the connection. Okay. Right. So then
you see all these cool, cool cats. And they it's they're yes, they're entrepreneurs. Of course, they're entrepreneurs. And look, and they're making out like bandits. And that's the example. And that was, of course, put together by white Hollywood. You have to think about it in this way. If you put these images in front of I said before, there were superheroes, and it was seen as a kind of a victimless crime. Because the
addict wasn't shown in the film. It was like people just having fun and partying and you were the person supplying this, quote, unquote, party drug. But let's get into the second trip. second clip by Mr. Charlie Lee's films. They help quell those riots. Because remember, we had the Kerner Commission study and while we had all these riots, these films helped. To calm that down. I called it rioting in the
movie theaters. Because all of our anger and our angst, we were able to meet and seeing people who look like us kick the white man's behind. And what was the subtitle of blaxploitation? Get YT for every drop of black blood spilled, a white man pays. He had a plan to stick it to the man, the man see, we were beating the man. And so I call it rioting in the movie theater. Because this was writing without destroying anything. It was a catharsis for us.
Is this the genesis of black audiences and movie theaters? You can say that, because when you look at the time 19, early 1970s That's when really segregation had really been officially put to end the you said content movie movies being made targeted towards a black audience. So yes, you can say that but I'm more if you listen to the clip and what how they're playing in the background. It was super fun to fly I heard it. So for shaft and being the positive and being the you know,
the cop and cleaning up the streets. You have Superfly which was the drug dealer, I want to say really? The first jerk black drug dealer you saw on film. Oh, being the head of his operation dude is bae and he's super, super fly. When it comes to women. They come to him. But he's still not enough. He wants a big score of a million in the big world. This is a chance and I want to take it now. Before I have to kill somebody.
Somebody asked me what kind of money we're talking about working now that I took all this chance with nothing, and I go back to p and nothing job job for chump change the after the good that's all I'm supposed to do the naval amigos clean bad machine super cool super super flat. Give us a secret stash in the bush Superfly Harlem do lead the system. He's got a plane ticket to the mayor. He's super, super high. Super duper simple.
All right. Holy fuck. In retrospect, in retrospect of you know what I would consider politically correct nonsense today. Holy crap. This was This is an outrage. This is saying it right there. That's right man. It's gonna be great deal the drugs stick it to the man via drugs ticket to the man ticket to the man she's self super flower made in 1972. Yeah, it was directed by Gordon Parks Jr. Are you familiar with Gordon Parks Jr. Not offhand. He also direct shaft. Oh, he did both sides of
the equation. Interesting. So he was a Mr. Gordon Parks he was groundbreaking, American photographer, musician, poet, novelist, journalist, activist, and film director. He was best remembered for his photo essays and Life magazine. And as director of the 1971 film chef, in 1942, he had an opportunity to work for the Farm Security Administration brought brought the photographer to a national capitol. So he worked for the government, he was basically a politician.
A little more than that. He's been accused as being a this is a quote from my website, blog talk radio. Gordon Gordon Parks was nothing more than a forest, a CIA operative who lived among the grow leaders and their followers, only to report to the CIA. Garden Parks was nothing more than an Uncle Tom. There's no secret Life magazine, let the cat out the bag, just like the white people to do this. While the white devil work, I'm reading a quote quote here. He said while the white devil work
to clip his wings before they declared him a fallen angel. He is the first to have played a key role in the assassination of Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. Minister Malcolm X along with Jesse Jackson. We talked about Jesse Jackson in a previous show, Billy cows and other CI operators. Wow. Okay, this this history is, you know, if you're even looking at Wikipedia is like nothing there. No, there's no there there. But I want to bring some attention
to something that you may have seen. If you've seen the movie American Gangster. Another movie that talked about the drug trade and how it was one so black man's up supply of America where it's also based on a true story. It's an it's Denzel Ward, right. He plays he plays that. Yeah, that's based on one story. It was based on a true story, but they embellished a lot there. But I want to point out to you if you notice his confidant with the big mustache, yeah, he's always talking to
death garden parks. Oh, wow. Okay, so to think that one man was annoying got one American Gangster tangent, but just to think that one man was bringing that much heroin on military plane. Oh, yeah. With the government not being involved. Oh, please. Exactly. Yeah, okay. And we know that part is not true, but okay. All right. So the plot of Superfly was basically a suave,
taught run New York City drug dealer. He decided he wanted to get out the game and this beer was so impactful, that yo people walk around with bags of flour and baby powder, just to look cool, just to emulate what they saw on the film. Wow. So let's get into this is from fan door. It's a YouTube channel Superfly in the 1970s blaxploitation cinema
crystal Ron O'Neal first some blood priests. The original Superfly released in 1972, Superfly, directed by Gordon Park Jr. and starring O'Neal, like the iconic drug dealer is one of the most iconic titles that come out of the blaxploitation movement. blaxploitation with a genre of cinema that began the early 70s With Ossie Davis's cotton comes to Harlem, barrio bad people sweet sweet backs, badass song and Gordon Park seniors shaft These films were not exactly
well made. However, they were hugely popular in the African American community. Because this was the first time the audience got to see films directed by at Star and people who look like them. The stars of Blaxploitation films were the heroes of their stories and not just victims or sidekicks to white characters, which have been the case it's so the beginning of cinema. Mario van Peebles, he was he goes back that far. His father,
oh, I was gonna say, oh, seniors, like wait a minute. Oh, see, I again. I bet he's gonna come into the picture. Eventually. I've met him I Jr. is gonna come into the picture eventually. Okay. So we had like, like the gentleman for fan door said this is the first time where we had stars. Yes, the stars in the movie being black. So that was very inviting, of course, to say, oh, man, he's, you know, he's whooping ass and stick it to the man. You know? You didn't realize the drug part of
it now. Is that exactly how you'd say it? Hey, man, he's whooping his ass and sticking it to the man. Is that how that's the SAP that's the 70s I want to I want to hear 70s mo say it. That's what I want. So that goes from 1972. Now we fast forward to 1983 when another drug Norco film came out and other classmates Yeah, the classic. Okay. So what do you call yourself? Como si AMA on folio, Montana. And you want to call yourself we're going to speak the English Donnie
in a school. In my father, he was from the United States. He was to take me to the movies to learn. I watch the guys like Humphrey Bogart Academy I always know one day and coming here, United States. 1980 Miami. They called it Little Havana with the American dream at a price and only one man in America was hungry enough to pay this country. You got to make the money first. Then we get the money. You get the power. Then we get a power. Then you get the woman face for one brief moment
was saying hello to my little friend. Huh? Yeah. Okay. This film is so iconic. Yes and powerful. Almost every rappers from the 90s either had a Scarface motif video skate on their album reference yeah referencing a lot of them had their names Tony Montana releasing now French Montana ranch wants that guy find him such a tool. I'm just showing him erupted today. Yeah, one even one of the biggest drug cartel black drug cartels there was was Black
Mafia family. They even had billboards put up in cities, saying the world is ours. So this iconic this film was and it was a shape. It shaped so much of of the reality and these poor communities. Right, although this was more Hispanic related. It was Hispanic related, but the black community latched on to it because it's the tale of uh, you know, coming up, nothing comes up and coming up. That's the term that's that by the way, that is the term that still use today coming up.
So you see, now you went from Superfly to Scarface, and one of the iconic scenes from Scarface was the bad guy. Girl a bunch of fucking you know why? You don't have the guts to be what you want to be. You need people like me You can put your fucking fingers aside that's the bad guy so good you just know how to hire me. I don't have that part. Me. I always tell it to even when I lie to a bad guy last time to go to see a bad guy like this again.
I was just looking at and I didn't know this but this is this film was actually a remake the film was made in 1932. I didn't know that either. Yeah, it was not. And it was produced by Howard Hughes, the the eccentric millionaire. Interesting. I'm glad you said that, because something almost slipped my mind. Because I think in 2017, they tried to make a remake of Superfly. Oh, interesting to reintroduce
the programming. Can we use a fails like this. And it's a whole, I could do a whole show on drug inspired gang inspired films that shaped the mind of the quote unquote black community of black ghetto. Because I don't want this to be a representation of the black community, per se, but a segment of the black community that latched on to this idea, and it's no different than the Kennedys, no alcohol, no different than Delano rose Roseville, and they made their
money off of heroin. This is American apple pie. It's what we do. It's what we do. But if you you had to be legitimized, and another film that I just just just a small reference to, you saw this with the Godfather three is falling when he made it all the way to the top, he just realized the whole power structure. Property off of the illicit drugs tray, yes, whatever it is by gambling, prostitution, drugs and alcohol when during Prohibition. So that here we are. So he went from
1983. You have the bad guy, which the bad guy has really seen is the good guy. Sure. Because he, in that speech, Scarface is telling the truth, because he said, Look at all you people. You're making money off of the drug trade, because miami beach front was built most mostly drug money. Oh, yeah. Yeah, awful drug money. And it's a funny scene in the Scarface film because they're rolling and wheelbarrows full of cash into the bank. And nobody is asking any questions.
Well, back in the day, it was you. It was easier. It was once easy to just roll up with cash. You could do that. But yeah, exactly. Everyone, everyone was in on it. Everyone was good with it. I have a question for you, because I heard you bring this up before, but call me. Back in the day. We would you like to share people with Comey and how that's relevant to him?
Yes. The bank? HSBC, which is the Hong Kong Singapore bank of Hong Kong, Singapore, Brazil, China, I guess it is they in 2002 through two so oh my gosh, I don't even know the exact dates. But in in in our lifetime, we're literally taking big piles of cash on the Mexican side where they had bank offices. And that would be the drug money. They'd throw the big bags of money into the deposit, and then it would go through their system, it'd be ingested, and then it would come out the
other side, you know, completely laundered and good to go. And they got busted for it. HSBC got busted for it. No one went to jail. Surprise, surprise, but on the board of directors at the time, who was there to help fix the problem was Mr. James Comey, the FBI, former FBI director, well, you probably know about him. And just did add to that, one of those guys that I'm sure they were laundering money for was El Chapo. That was their main guy there. But see, they're the settlement
Hold on a second. There was have an article here somewhere, I think. Here's the headline. This is a headline from Matt Taibbi. He's the he's the guy who knows that he's great Rolling Stone magazine Matt Taibbi writes fant, I can't believe he's still alive actually. Just outrageous. HSBC settlement proves the drug war is a joke. If you're, if you're suspected of drug involvement America takes your house. HSBC admits to laundering cartel billions loses five weeks income and execs have to
partially defer bonuses. I mean, let me tell you, it doesn't matter what skin colour you have my friend that pissed everybody off that was that was not okay. And it's still not okay. And for a little reference, people want to say out El Chapo El Chapo is the bad guy, but in his home Community Hero superhero scene is same thing with Pablo Escobar. He was a hero so it's not exclusive to the black community say the bad
guy is the good guy at all. No. And one of those bad guys this most famous, it's a fictional character is Nino Brown and New Jack City. Live living living just wants the sliders. Nice to live there. Alan pay. Chris Rock. Mario van Peebles Christopher Williams. Putting this away Adams. Tracy, Camilla John's. And Judd Nelson. Detective Nick ready big crazy jarhead motorcycle freak rejet cop just like Euskadi money money on the streets. There's a fine line between wrong and right.
Good or bad. But between those who enforce the law, it is a war out there. Those who break it going on the days of selling in the street corners. dark alleyways in the bathrooms are some bumpy as bought me with that no more in a city where survival depends on friends always business. Never person. Do on family. We got to look out for what bang bang on trust to do bang bang on power My Brother's Keeper family out to run a city are up against cops. No, it's streets
This is big business. This is the American way. C E. O wow, that brings back some memories because this was prime MTV. Here's a little side story for you. Then this was cool. I'm trying to think this must have been right around. See when did when did New Jack City come out in 91 I guess it was so it must have been 8889 There was a party and it was I think was a party for Rocco Welch for some reason. And I was like, gosh, I'll go I'll go say hi to her a reco Well, Jimmy No. Right. I grew up
with her. And there were a couple of guys outside. And as I came out of the event, like Hey, Adam, Adam, Adam, and they start harmonizing together and like oh yeah, here's our CD man you know check us out color me bad. They were on the street and three years later that that was them in this in this track right that was the that was them harmonizing I think that's the reason they called me bad.
Yeah, that was that was these guys around like a fire can harmonizing but calling me bad had the lead single or one of the lead singles from the soundtrack. I want to set up. I want to set you up. Yeah, I remember. Oops, sorry. So this is one of the first films where music crack. And the superhero when I left this movie, I went to see it with my older brother. I was probably 1211 12 years old at the time, maybe 10 or 11. At the time. I didn't know who was the good guy or the bad guy.
Right? Well, Wesley Snipes was. I mean, he was bad as regardless in this movie, and he was just people just loved him. Right. He played the role so well. And it was it was mystifying that wow like a successful black businessman but you didn't see what you saw the other side of it, but it left you in this weird plays even for me, I'm coming from a two parent household. One on One parent being educated, the other being
a social worker. So I understand. I'm not from what the place they were portraying, but it was something that was you celebrate it, Nino Brown. I understand. I told, I mean, here's the thing. We were, we were seeing the same thing we were rooting for the same guys, we just didn't have the same social background. So I think it's meant something different. And it shaped the music that was made. After that time,
everything became the artists. We went from self destruction, to now the rappers become, and we're gonna do another show about the music. But the rappers became almost prototypes are are copycats of the heroes. Yes, of course. Of course. That's exactly what it was. And in this movie, New Jack City, Nino brown lays out the basic plan how to create a crack enterprise. Tom's like these people want to get high, real high and real fast. And this is gonna do it make us
we would people go crazy over this. I mean, really look like cracked off pieces. The Colombia's in the Dominicans have shown us the way in shit. But we're gonna do it differently. Gone are the days of selling on the street corners. You change the product, you change the marketing strategy in the future, y'all. And his name is the car. Oh, hold on. Oh, that may know the quarter apartments. Big. No, maybe we talking about combinate and consolidate as well. You
know, they get them taken over the car. Yeah, we've taken over the car. We're gonna bum rush the whole damn thing. Just imagine if the tenants cooperate. Oh, it's lovely. I mean, they become loyal customers. They don't fucking dislike and they become living hostages. You can set up a lab here and make the product Kareem you can hook up the computer system and watch out for workers money. That product. The data man Keisha needed security force wore off the rival cruise the
screen out the customers. We also need look out here, here, here. And here. alert us a fireball. One place to make the product. One place to collect our money. We will own this. It's so interesting. This is I mean, you can put this same format right into Eddie Murphy, trading places you can put it into well, even dolomite, they made this this basic formula of, okay, I'm gonna go out and I'm going to maybe not drug related, but it's always like, I'm the entrepreneur and being all you
know, here's Wesley Snipes. He's like, I'm gonna hook up the computer over here and all this stuff going on. It's always that kind of format. It's a system IT systems. Systemic. Yeah. This is not like, he just had an idea like, Oh, I'm gonna, I'm gonna start a crack enterprise. You know, this. This a you asked me a question. You said? Did it just show up overnight? Yeah. So I saw this movie. And one of the iconic symbols of the crack era is the cracked bow. You know, the clear, small little Yes,
cylinder thing. And it had two different color tops to it. Yeah, that was the that was the the packaging. Right? So I saw this in this movie. And I remember going to see my grandmother she lived she was she lived in low income apartments because her my grandfather were low income. And I remember right after this movie walking around her apartment complex and seeing these on the ground. Oh, so your question was When did it start to show up because like, right.
And in in the bigger cities, I'm from North Carolina. And my grandma lived in rural North Carolina. So it's time for it to make it to those, those smalls areas. Sure. But that in my mind, that was like, okay, because we live in a lower middle. Middle class, lower middle class, working class community. So you didn't really see there, right? But when I visit my grandmother, I'm in walk and it's the vivid to this day. And I was like, oh, that's what I saw in the New Jack City
movie being 1011 years old. And that's when it started to show up and they you hurt people family members. Yeah, they're on that rock. That's what he's called that rock. Um, names were called rock stars. And the term it was like it was like a whole terminology came with it when they would get high and pace they were called ghostbusting. And it just consumed it was taught totally made to be cool and turned into popular culture.
Yes, but it was still still the dead time that and I think this wall was hidden when you say you went to these parties, smoking crack was a taboo, even though people were doing it and people were doing cocaine out in the open Yeah, what the crack was something that was kept secret because it was low class and it caught a crack head. It's really interesting. Yeah, I mean, you started when you think about it, of course I've never really been I'm pothead but not
not a not a druggie. Brian isn't really, there's no there's to me personally. Snorting something up your nose is pretty damn disgusting. no worse than smoking something out of a glass pipe. But yet it had that stigma. Yeah, cuz you hear nobody say, Oh, they're a coke. Well, you hear coke head. And you hear crackhead when you compare those two things, one is to crackheads to fleas broke dirty, right? Basically homeless. Yeah. Scratching, itching, where? It was like, oh, it's like a hot rod.
Yeah. Where's where's the bends? Yeah, exactly. Right. And even in a civics thing, it was the difference, because one was the drug of choice and crack was made from him. Yeah, it was made to target poor people. Because they're small doses of cheap, low, cost cheap. And it just kept them high all the time, where cocaine was a more expensive thing. So just just flashing through my brain, we don't have to talk
about it now. But in California to De Los Angeles, you know, we have heroin epidemic, and meth, etc. And I'm just wondering, you know, where the parallels, we don't have to go into it. I'm just thinking about that. That's a, that's too big that's covering this. But there is, the way it's being handled is totally different. And we're going to see in this and just for people that know what was going on. Just bear in your mind. You're listening along how
things are handled now as they were handled back then. Right on. So we're going back to another throwback clip. And this is from a 1986. Special Report. Then this was the broken families lead to the streets, you will find in these neighborhoods, the primetime family of Bill Cosby. There are successful strong black families in America families that affirmed parental authority, and the values of discipline, work and achievement, but not many live
around here. Still, not every girl in the inner city ends up a teenage mother, not every young man goes into crime. There are people who have stayed here to fight for these kids. They're
outnumbered by the con artist and pushers. It's not an even match, but they stand for morality and authority and give some of these kids a bracing dose of unsentimental love when their own fathers are missing, kids need someone else to stand in to practice damage control as the street take over for these kids, that someone is Detective Shaheed Jackson of the Newark police. He came by his street smarts the hard way. Well, I came about in the streets so I know how to get
around a lot of that stuff, man. I guess the older you get, the more you learn. I was fortunate enough coming up that I never got caught. And I grew out of the streets but yet I still have some in the street and there was a time when he wasn't sure he would make it off those streets.
He was an unmarried father at 18 and he had his share of troubles but he was raised by two parents his father was a Baptist minister and they pushed him to make something of himself on a Sunday morning on my blog he was the each family almost coming out going to church you know you don't see that anymore. The family unity Yeah, of course broke down. So I played the throwback clip to show you that the community was prime for this epidemic you had no man the house had taken
hold for like two three generations at this time. People were idle people were locked into projects and disillusioned disodium escape that's what basically drugs is an escape and not always said this. The super rich and the super poor. There's a commonality there because when you get sued when you see these kids come for super rich families. They don't have anything to worry about they know under drug drugs exactly being being one mr. Joe Biden's son. I mean,
are there any examples of this? Yeah, well, I'm just saying that he's not even people to try to stop this epidemic or supposedly try to stop this epidemic couldn't escape it. And if you have everything or you have nothing you looking for something more out of life, a grace Narrandera. And we're really in the same place. But I played this throwback clip, like I said before it just to show you the environment that was ready for this drug to come in and take
hold. Yeah, the timing was perfect. Almost like it was playing. Let's get at six two. What have you learned about these kids, that they need somebody loving? Identify with us because we excuse especially we don't take any crap. You know, you come in here, you got to be disciplined, you got to, you know, follow the rules and regulations. Because when they go out here and deal with life, they're gonna have to follow rules and regulations and
self control and self esteem. Far more important than a Good left hook. That says message the kids like Bernard Warwick, but he's been coaching Bernard for the past four years, like a big brother, father in between men, but there's been times when he's gotten me mad, and I've spanked, you know, his mother knows I'll spank spank him. Because sometimes that's when a kid needs to know. Freedom is a lot of time destruction. The more freedom a man has a lot of time he'll just
self destruct. So I try to keep them in a little cage. Somebody keep them in my homes. Somebody has to say no, yeah, somebody has to say no, you cannot do this. A lot of these kids grew up with nobody saying Do you think it's important for them to have men around? Yeah, I think, you know, you have one parent family. And as a mother, she cannot teach you all of the things that a man can teach his son, there's no way. So where did they learn the routine techniques of just daily
work and living? They don't unless they get it from their parents get it from the streets? Is there a common entity amongst the three movies we've looked at right now? Is there a common ownership a common production? Is there? Is there something that is common amongst those three it is to trace it back to some some form of clear planning. I haven't found one smoking gun. But I just think the industry as a
whole because it's weird. The weird thing is you have the media, the news, telling this story of how destructive this drug is, or these drugs are, but at the same time you have the Hollywood branch of media. Glorifying Yes, drugs. And it's
like they're never on the same page. It's not like I said, it's almost like it's it was a system wide plan to to victimize a group of people where they I mean, if you want to cut that group of people to be the poor, or you want to face the low income, low income black community, but when they set these things up and never stays confined to the communities targeted it, right, but it has it has anyone ever taken. van Peebles or? Well, Wesley Snipes got all kinds of problems. He had all kinds of
shit going down. But I mean, there's a lot of people who were involved Chris Rock. You know, a lot of people were involved with they have been taken to task over their participation in this and not at all, not not even not in the musicians, not the actors. Nobody. It's just I was trying to work. You know, I was just trying to any here's a common thing. Like it's better as rap about or act about and then to actually do it. That's, that's
the Okay, that's what the sanitizer. Oh, yeah. I mean, I could be out here actually selling crack instead of it portraying it. It's so, so amazing that, you know, you had a very powerful for speaking against this at this time. That was Bill Cosby. Yes. And it's like, wow, and he and I think there was a lot of agreement and he had really smart things. You need very, very smart things he said, and of course, came became somewhat condescending later on. But in the meantime, we know what he
was up to. It's just everyone's shit. I have no no faith in anyone anymore. But what they realize is the bad guy being the good guy is way more profitable than putting good guys on the screen. Yes, yes. Yes, yes. So now we have the propaganda that port That portion that we just came out of was the propaganda of setting up for the crack era. It was the priming of the, you know, the community to drop this, if you want to call it the crack bomb on the community.
Yeah, because we as we know, it was it was done by a very high up people. But let's get into the 1986 9089 Special Report crack or one. CBS News takes you on the street to the warzone for an unusual two hours of hands on horror. Our focus is on crack, a kind of cocaine a powerful mind bender and increasingly popular and deadly. We call our broadcast 48 hours on Crack Street. Gonna be happy to be around here.
But I mean, you can get it I get the good credit. You just saw the man tried to sell me crack right out in the middle of the street. The camera wasn't even hidden during that sequence. Had to have seen the camera was right here. And there just doesn't appear to be any fear of consequence. It's five o'clock on Wall Street on a Friday afternoon the business day is ended. The stock exchange is closed. People are
going home. They're going away for the weekend. But business on the street has an end it's just beginning to stockbrokers, the liars, the people who I love cocaine, and I couldn't wait to get out of college and start working and making money because I wanted to live that lifestyle. So this illustrates that it wasn't only black people buying
it. It was people on Wall Street as the gentleman said it was the stockbrokers the lawyers with the money whenever they create these traps, their own children, loved ones fall into these traps. Sure. And I when I say that it even goes for the the affluent black people. Because like I said, I grew up in a working class, middle class neighborhood. And you start to hear whispers Hey, did you hear someone saw was on crack? Did
you hear someone so? Teachers I saw teachers on crack? Oh man I've seen I've seen teachers buy crack from students. Man in a good school. I mean, I went to a relatively good school. It was just like wildfire. So how did it not grab you Mo? Come my dad would kill me. Why are you talking? Well, you had a man. Well, you just You said it. You had a man about the house. There you go. He didn't play that and then was, well, let's get into Oh, crap air effects.
Among the facts you should know. Crack is believed to be the most addictive drug known estimate. 25 million Americans will have tried some form of cocaine by their mid 20s 1/3 of all college students will have tried it before they graduate. 5000 More Americans are trying cocaine each day. So to answer your question, the other narrative about crack was one time and your crackhead Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. And coke coke cookie guy, you could fly in and out with no problems. No problem.
So I got my dad wanted to kill me on one hand. You tried once. I mean, drugs in itself was not glorified. I mean, we I mean, but we it was never seen as a drug either by certain groups of people. No. Older people. Yeah, I mean, everything was a drug. But there was a difference there between weed and crack, and that the narrative was like one try you're a crackhead. And so that kind of kept me from it. Is that
actually true? I mean, I've always believed that that was true that you want you smoke crack once and then you're hooked. i If you asked me without the show, so yeah, then you're hooked for and real hard to get off it. I don't know if that's true. I don't even think has been proven. Now. I mean, say if it's true or untrue, we wait but it hasn't been proven. But let's get into so we had these. The propaganda started the first
wing of the propaganda was the movies. The next wing of the propaganda once the crack was introduced to the community. What's the crime stories in the news, so let's get into crime. Three boys in critical condition in New York City hospital this morning with burns over half his body after a drug related attack. Police say David O Ponte was on his way to school in Brooklyn. When he was dragged off by another boy. He was beaten, bound and set on fire after he refused to smoke crack.
A 13 year old boy has been arrested and charged with attempted murder. Today is David's 12th birthday. Yeah, this is what the media does and do it so well. Similar to how I want to bring something that's current current in the news the Coronavirus there's very little facts there's very little information but be afraid push a narrative. Yeah, they'll push they'll push. That's right. We're all gonna die. You know, South by Southwest just got canceled. Yes
to $350 million a week for the city of Boston. It's got very huge so these crime stories starting to pop up. Like you say they start to keep killing and burn this other kid because he went smoke crack. And then we have crimes. 4.1 police in Kansas City Missouri is searching this morning for a woman who swapped her infant son for $20 worth of crack cocaine I remember these stories live living in New York and watching news these stories were all over the place that the sell your kid
for some crack this is good. A four month old boy was turned over to social workers after being left in a bar while his mother smoked crack outside crack dealer admits that the baby was part of the transaction for to Robin she didn't want it I don't care about that idea that the baby would have been you know somewhere. Police say they've identified the baby's mother but have not been able to find her man she's so now we have these crack really tearing families apart?
Well we have families already torn apart because the man was taken out of the house right now we have cracked destroying the mother and one of the famous two pot lines was out even though mom will use a crack filling you always with a black queen mom and I'm quoting it very loosely but you're left with your mother in the house She's depressed she's overworked overwhelmed by you know saying trying to do a two person job parenting
children and you need this escape. And the perfect escapes was crack cheap available and quick and very little understood. I give a pass to the people in the 80s that first start smoking crack. The reason why I say that
he had never seen anything like this before. I mean you had heroin but heroin was something different because it was a needle and it was you know it was like a junkie drug it had it had a well I was talking with Joe Rogan about this has had very bad PR if it was it was not like oh look at all these people die in and yeah junkie drug exactly that it did not have a great did not have great PR and a lot of times people first started getting introduced to
crack by mixing it we That's why I said the whole Whitney Houston thing that was a status thing that she was saying yeah, my
crack is wack. I don't do crap. A lot of people and I'm speaking from personal experience of people I personally know they got introduced not by smoking to rot but it was putting weed first and they smoked that way and then they didn't addiction with progress right to flat out smoking crack pipes which I'm trying to figure out how to crack pipes were manufactured like waves this factory making crack pipes is well down first of all, but I digress on that
I'll bet you dimes to dollars it was coming from China. Just saying. So now this is the heli high Galleon dialectic working its way you have pressure from above and pressure from below. One was the propaganda of the movie and movie and the film industry saying how cool it is and making the drug dealers heroes. And now the pressure from above is coming down with the media, the news media telling how terrible crack is and how it's basically
turning neighborhoods into war zones. So so this is this is my plan. I believe this is my hypothesis. That's good. You want to say something? No, I'm just shaking my head. Yeah. So let's get into crime. 4.2 A woman who allegedly smoked crack cocaine just hours before giving birth, has been charged with giving a drug to her unborn child. Kimberly Hardy of Muskegon, Michigan faces charges of second degree child abuse and delivering cocaine. She could be
sentenced to 24 years in prison. similar cases have gone to trial in the United States this year. Only one ended with a conviction. So the outrage is building you have kids being killed. Now you have the famous crack baby. Yeah, which crack babies is a real thing and it's something that's very little talked about because if you think about it, where did they go? Where did where did the crack babies go? They just kind of blend in into society. Is this where there's crime? I'm asking I'm asking a
rhetorical question cuz I don't have an answer for it. Well, I think the Child Protective Services has a big role in this and and not a positive one. The Ritalin because these kids were born addicted to drugs. Yeah. And history. They were basically they were basically customers who were customers right out of the womb. Further question is, where are they now? These are kids that my age, you're probably doing podcasts. Nobody asked that question. You know, nobody has an answer for that quote.
And it's a good question, because you'd almost you could you could easily put together especially now that these were the crack babies. I don't know if they're alive, man. Because you think about it. I was born at these children were born 85 to 95. Let's say that was like the huge crab era. Yeah, those kids are 35 to 30 years old. Yeah. So they can easily have children 15 1015 years or younger? Is this crime we're seeing in the street is now the second generation of crack babies.
It's a good question. It's worth looking at. I don't know. I mean, it. I just wonder how many crack babies actually survived to go on to lead productive lives. That yeah, being riddled with, with addiction, such as that is, yeah, but as we have the narrative grown we it's the slow drumbeat. You see what's going on? We have crime, we need to do something about it. And let's continue with crown 3.4 point three. In Kansas City, Missouri Police are investigating the shooting
death of an 11 year old boy at a suspected drug house. Frederick Jones had lived in the house up until a month ago. He went back with his sister Saturday night to get some belongings as he opened the door. He was shot dead. A 14 year old boy has been arrested. But other children in the neighborhood are still frightened. And out stay in a house stand a half. I don't want to get shot. The world is not going right after all. My take care.
Please think Jones may have been shot simply because he didn't identify himself at the door. By the way, crack babies is a new name these days was that neonatal abstinence syndrome. That must be for the is that for crack babies. The opioid baby's head describes a newborn that has been exposed in utero to harmful drugs or alcohol. Isn't it amazing how they come up with a politically correct scientific name? Yeah, neonatal abstinence syndrome really crack baby cheese.
That's, that's, you know, George Carlin does a bit about that. It used to be called, he came back from war and he was shell shocked. And now it's, you know, post traumatic stress disorder. So it's all about the narrative in the end and the names that they use in the narratives. So once again, that drumbeat is
growing and I'm going somewhere with this. I'm headed somewhere with it just for people this wondering But Kron 4.4 They're the youngest victims of the drug crisis the children of addicts, those born addicted or those suffering, maltreatment and neglect and cracked households. Last month in Detroit, a court case offered one of the most shocking
examples of how a child can suffer from parents addiction. A 30 year old woman, Susan bar bear was sentenced for turning her 13 year old daughter over to the man to be raped in return for a supply of crack directions in this case, the reprehensible the act in itself is terrible. occurs in this fashion from the mother and child. As I've indicated, it exceeds all bounds. So there was we have this steady drumbeat of crime, crime crime affect the community and people in the community want to
answers. People in the community wanted action because these are their children being shot. These are their grandchildren being born to dependent to drugs. Another common thing I noticed when I was of the age, a lot of grandparents would have to raise their grandchildren. Yes. So you have a single old lady 5060s years old, with a newborn baby. Yeah. This was a common occur. I
mean, this was very common. A lot of my grandmother's friends had to take on their, their grandchildren due to this epidemic. Now, I'm sure people were clued into what was going on. Did they not see the systemic nature of this? Or was it just so vast and so overwhelming that there really was no, you couldn't see the forest through the trees? I guess. It's the words right out my mouth was gonna use that same analogy, right? It happened so fast that you were like, it's like being
dropped off in the forest. You didn't walk into the forest. He's like, somebody dropped you into your there, got it. And look around. It's just like, everything is changing. This is when you hear like, I'm not referring to my grandparents a lot. But this was the difference in generation. They grew up where you didn't have to lock your doors at night. Now you
start to see the bars going to Windows. Yeah. It'd be these neighborhoods literally became prisons, because you were living in households with bars on the doors and bars on the windows and three to four locks on your doors. But there was one death, there was one death. They brought this whole thing to a comics and it's covered by the historic controversies with Chris Calton. On June 18 1986, a young basketball player named Dylan
bias was celebrating. The Boston Celtics had recently selected him as their first round draft pick, and Reebok offered him a multimillion dollar deal. Even before he played in the NBA, he was a national star. That night, he went to lie down saying he didn't feel well and he never woke up at 855 in the morning on June 19th. He was pronounced dead from heart failure. The autopsy revealed that there was cocaine in his system, and the
ramifications from this would be enormous. Now it's worth clarifying here that the medical examiner's did attribute the cocaine was death. I've heard some people argue that they never concluded that cocaine was the cause of his death only that it was in a system that the medical examiner's did conclude that cocaine overdose was the cause of death. However, the media and the government jumped on a few things about the story that are under dispute. One is that Lynn bias was smoking
crack. In reality, they don't know how he consumed the cocaine, but it probably wasn't crack one report speculated he could have smoked Freebase cocaine. No, that wasn't really popular in 1986. But others said he either snorted it or swallowed it in a drink. Nobody knows exactly how he consumed the cocaine. But I personally remember being taught in school that he smoked crack and his death occurred right after crack was starting to make national news. So it was a convenient narrative to jump on.
Oh, yeah. Is this where Nancy jumps in? Nancy Reagan, this is where the war on drugs came in. This is where the war of drugs starts to begin. So Len bias. Just for reference, I want to give people have you heard of limb bias? Yes, yes. I'm sure you have. But just to give people a reference of limb bias. Imagine LeBron James when he first got drafted.
And before he even plays in the NBA dies of a crack overdose. He was the equivalent of what a LeBron James is now right before he became super famous, but the potential Oh, yeah, I mean, this guy was amazing. I mean, he was, he's gonna be better than Jordan, because they came out came out about the same time on a college. And that was a comparison then boom, he was wake up more than one morning, he's dead. Anything in the store is a smoke crack for the first time. And he's dead. Hmm.
So of course, we we aren't, we aren't intended to know what really happened because a narrative was created. And that's it. And actually, it's I'm reading here now, the len bias law. There, yes, there you go. Let's get into part two. The primary reason that it was reported that he used cocaine for the first time was that the media and the government had already been cultivating an image of cocaine use that it was instantly addictive. So using cocaine and crack one time could
make him completely addicted. I also remember being taught this when I was younger, but it's completely untrue. That narrative about cocaine addiction is an absolute fabrication. Part of the reason it was easy to spread this narrative in the case of Lynn bias is because prior to his overdose, the media was presenting him as this squeaky clean kid from a good family. So they just concluded that this
must have been his first time using cocaine. same regardless of the actual specific circumstances of Lynn biases death, this was the exact kind of catastrophe, the government couldn't let go to waste. On the morning that his death was reported in the press. Lynn bias was all anybody could talk about in Congress. Tip O'Neill, the Democratic Representative of Boston, who was the Speaker of the House at the time, was screaming for blood, there had better be some anti cocaine
legislation. And that had better not be something that the Republicans could take sole credit for. With the death of Lynn bias, the cocaine scare of the 1980s had reached its apogee. And this is where everything changed. Yes. Now you see the pressure from above pressure from below. They needed a narrative. But before we continue, I think it's a great time to take a pause. I like money. I don't know if you do but I don't mind. This is just what the pause you were looking for. Yes, this
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our donation page. Mo fund me.com And thank you all very much. Thank you very much. All right, back to weld. We're getting ready to blow it out here. Right. So now we're at the max point of attention for this with the death of limb bias. And I want to bring in another throwback clip. And this is from the series rock that was on Fox. And this is from the episode nightmare on Emerson Street. I got a nice little thing going across the street, you
understand? And I don't need somebody like you messing things up with you live phone calls to the police and you know, stupid ass block parties. This ain't none of your damn business, man. You understand? I'm trying to get paid you understand? And I don't need you but into my affairs. I thought this was a nice neighborhood man was a nice neighborhood. It's always been a nice neighborhood. Yo, I hear what you're saying, brother. But I'm a business man. You know what I mean? Businessman.
That's right. So what you call yourself you ain't no businessman. You're murderer. And you're killing your own people. And you may have done your killing someplace else, but it didn't happen in here. I don't think I made myself clear. I don't want your drugs. I don't want your money. I want your sorry ass out of my house and off my street. You got to stop this now. I don't think you want to do this. Oh, yeah. I've been wanting to do this ever since you moved
off. I don't think you want to find one of these loved ones yours and when it was garbage cans you pick if you'd have so much as look in that direction. I'll run down how crazy I am. That was a Charles Charles Dutton. Yeah, Charles is done. Yes. Yeah, I I remember this show. I remember. It was very good, actually. Fantastic. Fantastic show and they actually did a several of the years live would do it live. Oh, I think I remember that. So had Jamie Foxx and a lot. Yeah.
I mean, this was a weird I was you know, I was transitioning into Internet man from MTV guy. So you know, it was a lot going on. But I do remember this. Oh, yeah. And the reason why I played this is the show the frustration of the people living in the neighborhood. Because this was happening in real time. He was making this show as what was going on in the city of Baltimore. It's It's amazing that he was allowed to do that, that they put it on the air.
It was and it's amazing that we don't have any more shows like wonder why that is? We regressing How weird. Okay, but it showed the frustration of the citizens living in the neighborhood. They were being held hostage. They couldn't walk up and down their streets. Their communities were becoming war zones. Yeah. And they turned to their Boulais politicians. And I think I explained this on the last show, and that was really the genesis in the motivation
for making this show. They said we have to do something and it's community. My kids can't walk down the street kids getting hit by random bullets. My property is being vandalized and burglarized by crack addicts. You have to do something. And those Boulais politicians. Their solution was the 94 crime bill. For 25 years after the 1994 crime bill was enacted. We are still having conversations about the importance and significance of the bill.
That 1994 crime bill. It. It did contribute to mass incarceration in our country. It's important that people remember the context of the political environment in the early 1990s. The other big piece of legislation on Capitol Hill tonight is the crime bill. Now violent crime peaked in 1991. And the drafters of the bill didn't know that in 1993 and 1994, when they were drafting and finding urban areas, urban cities across the country were ravaged by crack cocaine, and Americans were
afraid of crime. The 1994 crime bill was signed by President Bill Clinton. This was a pretty significant bill at the time. And President Clinton and Senator Biden at the time our right back a bill with significant the most significant federal effort to deal with violent crime in America that has ever undertaken it was important for a Democrat at the time to be seen as taking a significant role in trying to reduce crime and violence in the United States.
I don't know how deep your We're going to go into the into the crime bill itself, but nothing bothers me more in today's in today's politics in particular, you know what, Super Tuesday and South Carolina did this the Joe Biden's relationship to the 94. Actually, the full title was Violent Crime Control and Law Enforcement Act is always like, Well, yeah, you know, yes, I was part of that. No. Key wrote this. Joe Biden wrote this bill,
I know what no one brings. I don't see any black people on television saying those words Joe Biden wrote that bill not not involved no wrote he wrote it? Well, I have to listen to you have to listen to black podcast,
the new what is termed the new Black Media. These This is the only people that's gonna hold him responsible because the establishment Democrats, the Boulais politician they won't do are going to protect they're going to protect Joe Biden, as you saw with a Jim Clyburn cut, con con Barry, I believe is how I pronounce it. In South Carolina. He has wrote off all of Joe's sins is like, Oh, great. Now, I'm Black Twitter, black black podcast, which I think is
a different app. I got to figure it out. And what I need to download is, is this being said this clearly is I mean, well, how about how about Kleiber? Is he being taken to task because I think his endorsement of Biden made it happen. He's the biggest butter biscuit eater there is. And the next question is, why are people's memories so flawed? Or is it what is going on that a single African American comes into a single person from the poor neighborhood of this era?
Maybe that's more fair. I mean, where's the outrage? Is it just being completely suppressed because the media is not doing anything? Crime Bill Two, at the time, the Congressional Black Caucus was part of the debate around the crime bill. And the Congressional Black Caucus didn't want every provision that was included in this bill, it became clear that the provisions in the 94 crime
bill, were going to be a political compromise. And so the history is much more complicated and is sometimes portrayed by the media. Now, what did the bill do, just like a lot of political compromises, there was a good and there was the bad. For example, the bill eliminated 19 types of semi automatic assault weapons, it also provided huge amounts of funding to hire Cops 100,000 Cops For funded was about $14 million at
the time for community policing. The bill also enacted the Violence Against Women Act that provided funding to protect women and victims of domestic violence and crimes against women. But the most pernicious provision of the 1994 crime bill, was it $12 billion that was authorized for states across the country that would enact what's called Truth in
sentencing laws. That funding literally paid states to increase the number of prison beds that they allocated for individuals convicted of violent crime in this country to serve 85% of their sentences behind bars. The reason that provision is so important, and the reason we're still talking about it today, is the federal government essentially subsidized states across the country to build more prisons.
Yeah, and I think it was, I think it was more than 18 billion I recall it being more and this this, of course, spawned the cops, the Community Oriented Policing Services. That was that was the acronym and mass incarceration, of course, of course, and death penalty 60 New death penalties, including drug offenses is nuts. Now, that clip was fully loaded with a lot of stuff, so we might
need to go back and maybe listen to it again. I don't know. But one thing you asked you said Why is nobody pointing the fingers in the mainstream? Yeah. Why is nobody pointing fingers at Joe Biden? Well, if you're a member of the Black Caucus at that time, if you point fingers at Joe Biden, the you're pointing fingers at yourself? Yes, because they were clearly involved. They were they were asking for it. You got to do something. And now, I want to go back just a little bit. And that's why I
played them. A throwback clip, broken families lead to the streets. The reason why I play that is that gentleman that was interacting with those kids was a police officer. And if you use these officers, police officers from the community, then they have empathy and sympathy for the people they're trying to police. Sure. Well, you go a mass hire policemen from outside the community, and you weaponize them with military. Yeah, that can air doors off, and then you turn around on top of that, and
build a $12 billion worth of new prison beds. Who's gonna fill those beds? And people who listen to this show, you need to you need to tell people to listen to this podcast, you really do because the way it is passed on? It's so embarrassing. Well, that was Yeah, that wasn't good. Fuck wasn't good, was atrocious application. That's the that's the terminal and this problem, and no, it was problematic. That's that's the tiredness report to us. But it was complicated. Complicated.
Yeah. Now, if you're a politician that made it to the national level of politics, somebody says we want to build $12 billion worth for new prisons. First of all, you ask, how are you going to put in those prisons, I mean, empty prisons don't make any money and they don't serve any purpose. So obviously, you have an idea to lock people up. But then on top of that, they're gonna have to serve 85% of their, of their
Senate. So now we're not only going to fill the bed, but we're going to ensure they stay field but also the the prisons were commercial enterprises. This is the correctional was a Corrections Corporation of America think it's CCA. And it even came up in a debate the other day that Tom Steyer had actually purchased one of these commercial prison companies. And I guess once he decided to run against Orange Man bad, he's like, Oh, I have to sell that. That's no good.
But a bunch of hypocrite douchebags. Unbelievable. And a lot of these Boulais saw a great investment opportunity. Yeah, he's I take this money and made it was political capital and real capital, because I could take this money. They're gonna build into prisons, I can, and they become investment. I
can invest in them. I pretty much do what my constituents want by cleaning up the streets, but not realizing whether they ignored it or didn't truly didn't realize it, that you're going to be locking up to your constituents, kids and grandkids. Yeah, yeah. And nephews and nieces. And you know, so, yeah. But this was all one big plan. And now they try to cover up for it, because a lot of them have dirt on their hands. And I'm sorry, I'm sorry.
I'm sorry. Let me start. Let me just enter up. The plan, you say was one big plan, but it was really the Black Caucus? That pushed for it? Correct. They have no power. Right. But they wanted it that they started they start the conversation. They start it was like we need this. We need this or where do we know the real Genesis? The conversation came from the citizens living in the community saying you need to do something right. The problem wasn't that
there was a solution. The problem was the solution they chose. It wasn't community policing. It wasn't how they're handling the opioid addiction. Now, let's, let's throw $30 billion at this and let's get some basically rent a cops, you know, hire us. What's the what's the analogy I'm looking for? Like the mercenaries? Yeah, there were mercenaries. And like I said, they were really militarized because in first clip, I believed the guy said, Have you ever seen the opal clip? Straight out of
Compton? Yeah, it was a tank that had tanks that could rip bars off of windows, doors, and it's like, bad enough. And this is a time everybody wants to talk about post traumatic stress syndrome. Now imagine you live in a neighborhood where gangs are trying to keep you safe. If you're straight. If it's me, it's put me in that community. I'm just wanting to go to school and get an education and you're saying have a better life. I had
to make a pass the gang members who's trying to recruit me. I had to make a pass the crackheads who's trying to rob me kill me. And now I have to worry about stop and frisk game nice sorter militaristic, policing practices of being thrown against the wall and copy a Xerox because you look like Well, do you look like the part I know you're still situation was different. Did you feel any of that to a degree? To a degree Yes. And the thing was here's here's the crazy
thing. us as kids we dress like the problem we acted like the problem we saw it like that's what you were being conditioned to do of course through the through through the entertainment yeah Geez through the propaganda so now it's like what I don't understand most No, I don't understand. We've done the United States government the Boulais they've done so much work. How come you guys are still around? I can't believe they didn't get rid of all Yeah. very resilient. My friend. Holy crap.
It says the story of our lives. Yeah. Can't take us. The life of this show for Episode one done now. Throughout history, there's been a concerted effort to take us out. Let's get Can we agree to that? Yeah, but it's so dumb. It just I don't understand what it has to be a bottom. Yeah, we that was one of our first shows actually about the bottom your so yeah, there's got you have to have a bottom tag your it's nice to have the bottom. When you do it on color. It makes it very
easy to identify who the bottom is. But I want to get more into this 94 crime bill. Sure. That was passed under Bill Clinton. 22 years ago, the country divided over a controversial far fetching anti crime bill brought to Congress by former President Bill Clinton. liquidity in the country divided it. There was no division. Yeah. Poor people, black people. They were against it. But there was no division. I'm sorry, I was around. I don't remember that. I
don't remember any division like that. When Okay. Critics blame the law for record breaking incarceration rates and with further devastating poor communities. Well, just last week, President Clinton as you know was interrupted by Black Lives Matters protesters upset about the 1994 crime law. The President admitted a year ago that the law jail too many for too long while speaking at a convention for the NAACP, Clinton supported her husband in signing the law when she was
first lady. In recent days, the former Secretary of State has been trying to clarify her husband's remarks on the law without trying to denounce them. Now, Bernie Sanders along with 187, Democrats voted for the bill in 1994. And he is now criticizing President Clinton say that he needed to apologize to the American people. Joining me now is Congressman Bobby Rush who voted in favor of the crime bill in 1994. He has endorsed Hillary Clinton. Carson, thank you so much for joining
us, to everyone. It's my pleasure. It always is great to talk to you. Let's put some perspective on what was happening. You were there 22 years ago. Do you believe the way the crime bill is being described now versus what was happening on the ground in some of that video? Is it matching here? Well, before we let Bobby answer, yeah, there's another
reason why I made this show. They're gonna try to rewrite history again, which I mean, you pointed out with Joe Biden, and sure, these clips outtake him here on the crime bill was from the 2016 cycle, when there are white washing, no pun intended. Killer that quick, Hillary sin. Yeah. You know, it was it was the country was divided. And it was difficult. And you know what? They're gonna do the same thing again. And everybody wants to point the finger at Joe Biden, rightfully so. But Bernie,
Bernie Sanders right up there. Oh, yeah. All Bernie. Bernie, you couldn't see. I mean, you're a socialist. I mean, you should be against the government. You know? Yes. But the Schweitzer children problem. Sorry. All right. Little little love little interracial interfaith humor there. Yeah, so I'm making this clear so everybody can see everybody has a little dirt on their hands. The Black Caucus, Bernie
Sanders, Joe Biden, Hillary Clinton. You go down the list now hold on I want to put your your your black actors etc in that as well. They've they are also complicit. Yeah, they were trying to make $1 But a lot of harm was done. Oh course. I mean, the music issues and we're gonna get there too. But let's let Bobby explain why he voted for the crown. Chakra. Let me start out with this. I am ashamed My home. I sincerely apologize to God apologize to my community, to my
family. That was the worst vote. As I look back over the years that I'm thinking since I've been in Congress, it was a vote that really was accompanied with a lot of hope. And then we will finally be able to deal with not only the issue of crime in our community demonstrating crime, but then we would also be able to do those things and have those programs and policies to deal with the other kinds of issues other than problems in
our community. And what happened with the crime bill and its implementation was that there was too much of a focus too many resources on locking them up. But no resources on love and compassion. And as a result, we have devastated communities. devastated. Our families devastated our futures. So there you have it. Oh, we didn't know what was gonna happen. We didn't know what happened if you build 12 being all his work for new prisons. Seriously, really? Really? It's such bull crap.
You're not that smart and that dumb at the same time? I use it. You just can't be. No, but we're looking at it from a political standpoint of the wrongdoings. It goes deeper than that, of course. And we're gonna go there. In going back to the movie New Jack City. There was a scene, a court scene where it Nino Brown, and all the bad that he done. Let some truth out. You're the
one who was guilty. Lawmakers, the politicians, the Colombian drug lords, all you who lobby against making drugs legal, just like you did with alcohol during the Prohibition. You're the one who's guilty. I mean, come on. Let's click the ballistics here. No Uzi is made in Harlem. I mean, not one of us in here. Also Poppy feet. This thing is bigger than Nino Brown, this is big business. This is the American way.
The business of America is business. And now I'm sure we go to exactly how it all came about. Yes, we do. And we're going to let one Mr. Gary Webb and a throwback clip. Explain it in his own words. My name is Gary Webb, I am an investigative journalist. I've been an investigative journalist for about 25 years for daily newspapers. And in 1996, I wrote a series of stories entitled Dark Alliance, which was about CIA involvement in drug trafficking.
What my story showed was that the cocaine that was being sold in those neighborhoods was coming from mainly one source. And this one source was being used to finance a guerrilla war in Central America. The general idea of the CIA dealing drugs was something that the American mainstream press had never written about before.
And that's why it prompted outrage among blacks, among drug reform activists, among politicians, by the CIA, by every federal agency involved in the drug war, because it showed they weren't doing their jobs. There was a fraud. Yes, this is a very, one of my favorite stories of Gary Webb, a true hero and reporting this in the Mercury News. And a running joke that we've had on no agenda is no careful or your wind up
shooting yourself in the head twice. And that's literally what the cause of death has been recorded as to gun shots to the head, a suicide, which is just so I think the gun was in his in his left hand too. It is so incredibly hard to do that. Which of course means he was taken out but yeah, Gary Webb really blew this wide open. And we, for the ones that done the investigation on this topic, we've heard about the role of Reagan and bush and Oliver
North, and the people of that of that nature. And little, little known fact here. We've known Compton California was one of the epicenters of the crack cocaine. And I remember hearing this as a teenager that yeah, the CIA shoulda woulda, shoulda the gangs how to cook up crack in Compton, you know in South Central LA. Well, here's a little Did you know well Richard Nixon he grew up in Yorba Linda. Citrus ranch Ronald Reagan spent time in Bel Air, would you did you know the bushes were
straight out of Compton? The bushes? Yes. No, I didn't. This is from gives Gizmodo it says actually the Bush family only called Los Angeles County suburb home for six short months and 1990 1940 knots and 1950 a George HW Bush the future 41st President United States was on a temporary Assam and California for the dressing industry selling or drill bits for the
Jessup subsidiary name security engineering company. Now, the future CI head of the CIA and the CIA was known for their role in the Iran Contra scandal and the proliferation of the crack epidemic. I happen to live in Compton, California. And that's where one of the epicenters of the crack era started. I didn't know that I you know, could you think of Compton, all you think of is, you know, is straight out of Compton, literally, you know, those are the images that come up in your
head. I didn't I didn't know this, but I'm looking at why I do it a white flight. It was a white community where it became majority black. And all of a sudden, this is where crack started. I mean, it's like one of the birthplaces of crack cocaine. That workout. Fantastic. That's just a coincidence. Yeah, of course. But another epicenter of the crack epidemic is Mena, Arkansas.
On October the seventh 1994. Sarah McClendon, the senior White House News correspondent who has covered 11 presidential administrations, beginning with that a Franklin Delano Roosevelt demonstrated once again that she has the courage to ask the hardball questions. Other journalists only dare to think as she confronted William Jefferson Clinton, about the Central Intelligence Agency's involvement in nefarious activities, activities Saturday remote airport in western
Arkansas. While Clinton was Arkansas commander in chief, she finally cornered the man who was a co conspirator in bypassing the Constitution of the United States of America. In doing so, the President was not only forced to address the looming scandal that may impeach him, Clinton once again demonstrated his trademark talent. He lied. Yeah, and what is kind of interesting is, you know, if you follow the entertainment track of this, of course, Tom Cruise just did a movie about Mena, Arkansas.
Which he had to change the name. Yeah. But it was also missing some key elements like, I don't know, Bill Clinton, the bushes? Oh, yeah. Yeah, people don't really know this, but it's like, here's how you here's how you set the narrative. But here's also how you polish off all the old crap, you know, just make a movie about it and bring in the top guns to coin a phrase. And, you know, and focus it on, Barry, she was a very senior Sansbury shields, I think his name was
the pilot, and make it all about him. And you know, and just completely get rid of all of the history. And lo and behold, the history goes away except for on this show. It doesn't that sound very similar to how they rewrote history with American gangster and having to be the face of all heroin in the 1970s. In America, you know, the the Pentagon and CIA have offices in Hollywood. So yes, of course. Of course. It's how you do it.
So what I'm listening to Mr. Sarah McClendon acts Bill Clinton about his MENA connection, the Republicans are trying to blame you for the existence of a small airbase at Mena, Arkansas. This base was set up by George Bush and Oliver North and the CIA to help the Iran countries and they brought in play mode after playing mode of cocaine
there for sale in the United States. And then they took the money and bought weapons and took them back to the Contras all of which was illegal is you know, under the law Are that count me? Did they tell you that this had to be in existence because of national security? Well, let me answer the question. No, they didn't tell me anything about it. They didn't say anything to me about it. That is what by the way, that's what we call a performative
where you're going to say something? Well, let me say this about that, or let me answer the question doesn't mean you give an answer. The airport in question, and all the events in question were the subject of state and federal inquiries, it was probably primarily a matter for federal jurisdiction state that really had next to nothing to do with it. A local prosecutor did conduct an investigation, based on what was within the jurisdiction of state
law. The rest of it was on the jurisdiction of the United States attorneys who were appointed successively by previous administrations. We had nothing zero to do with it. And everybody who's ever looked into it. Bullshit, I did not have sexual relations with that woman. Did you hear answer? Yeah, I did. Of course not. Of course not. Of course not. Let me answer that doesn't mean he's given an answer. No. And this lady Sarah McClendon, like you said, she started on
the 1111 administration. She's no lightweight. No, no kidding. For her to ask that question. He had to be serious smoke there. But as you Why is this not being brought up? Why was this not brought up in the 2016 election? Why was this not being brought up now? Well, it was definitely it's been discussed, but not in the mainstream? No, of course not. No. And it's a lot of this thing and we one thing I didn't I didn't want to clip it, but Maxine Waters she had she held a
hearing in Congress on this very topic. Oh, well, now I'm gonna say she had Yeah, she has. She has a um, she her memory is slipping her now. I don't remember. Go go look it up. Maxine Waters. Um, it was not really a clippable because it was like long drawn out answers. But yeah, Maxine Waters she knew it was going on. But and and let's not forget, Barry Barry. Oh, it was he was his book. He confessed to selling drugs. And we've covered his connection with the CI all these things are
just so convenient. So so very convenient, how they're all connected, but nobody points the finger anybody. In this day and age where we want to expose everybody. My Millennials stay. Whoa. Okay. Great words, Maxine. Alright, so let's get into the final clip of the MENA connection. What forces could be responsible for compromising the entire
system of justice? Bill Clinton certainly knows. He was the governor of Arkansas who allowed the some version of his state government by the shadowy forces radiating from the Reagan Bush White House, when ex CIA director William Casey began using the CIA to illegally conduct secret foreign policy. This serious breach of America's constitutional authority was labeled by the media as Iran Contra. This documentary will rewrite this dark period in American history and leave you
with annoying question. Who or what is running this country? Gun running mysterious CIA flights. Contra military training guerrilla pilot training clandestine air drops tons of illegal drugs millions of dollars in dirty money. Covert activity in some third world Banana Republic. Right. Wrong. Arkansas, America's own Banana Republic. And if you think it ended with Iran Contra. Let's look at Libya. Let's look at Syria. Benghazi has to do with this gun
running a terrorist AirDrop. Oh, who was it? Who was involved? Oh, oh, my another Clinton, Hillary Clinton. Except, you know the payoff was different. The payoff was in money to the Clinton Foundation, all kinds of shenanigans. I started watching her perfectly times documentary, which launched March 6, which is what you do right after Super Tuesday, of course. Perfect. And it is a It is so convincing. I've only seen the first hour, it's four hours. You I actually think Hillary Clinton started as
a very good person. And somewhere I have only seen the first hour I will identify it somewhere. The power or the money or a combination got to her and she just became evil itself. Well, from what I've read on her, the random family has nefarious ties to organized crime. And, and her adoptive family, the bushes. I mean, this is not my words. This is her adoptive brother speaking. When he asked, asked about Bill Clinton and George W. Bush. He said, Oh, that's my brother. And
he's like, oh, so what did that mean? Hillary? Oh, my sister. Oh, I'm not giving them a pass. Well, by the by the way, Hillary Hillary truly is white. I mean, she comes from from white supremacy. Yes, she could. She comes from the Coventry, England here it is Morris Rodham, Archdeacon of Warwick. She literally is from the the white bloodlines that that that are the origins of white supremacy that doesn't have to go back that far, actually.
And the bushes are white by marriage, because they married into the Brown family. Exactly. And the harem family. So I mean, those are very big names. So I'm just getting back on track with the Arcsoft connection. Two things one, I remember this is pre internet. There was a group called Goody mob do associated without cash. Are you familiar with outcasts, Andre? 3000? Course boy? Yeah, they had a song that went no, not hold me to the lyrics. Exactly. But it said dirty Bill Clinton for me
some weight. Tell me get 10 Bring him eight. No, bring him eight. So what he was basically alluding to the drug deal with? Yeah, including Bill Clinton. Well, it's not like we don't know Bill and his brother. We're kind of fans of the powder. So going back to the Arkansas connection, my brain does what it does. And I remember this documentary about Little Rock, Arkansas in the mid 90s, of HBO called banging in Little Rock.
Several years ago, when I saw the death rate begin to change and the death rate was increasing. But the demographics, the victims were becoming much younger and younger and began to see tattoos and brands on victims and began to notice graffiti, and then began to notice that the violence just was increasing and drive by shootings and random shootings and random killings, retaliation killings, and it just went on and on until 1992. We had a record rate of homicides in Little Rock and it
looks we've broken the record in 1993. And it's just gone on and on. No. Bill Clinton is hated in Little Rock. Uh huh. He is hated my uncle, who I should disclose. I should have disclosed this earlier. My uncle don don Greg, key was national security adviser to Bush Senior during Iran Contra, there were hearings and he was grilled. And he was exonerated as having nothing to do with it. Politically, he was damaged and he became ambassador to South Korea. But I speak to him often I've never really
talked to him about this. If I don't if I don't, he may not want to talk about I don't know. But I do know that he went to he had some business in Little Rock. And he was talking to I think there's a some kind of state library. And I just recall him telling the story that all that particularly women who were there, the name of Bill Clinton just brought like scowls of anger, they hate him, hate him.
Well, I'm gonna go into a little bit cocky, a little, a little theorem, not a lot, a little bit there and come back to go a little left with. I think we can roll out a bit of Theramin for you. There you go. Alright, here we go. We're going to I don't know if it's going to be conspiracy theory or conspiracy facts. We'll see. All right. Are you? Are you familiar with Mr. George Webb? Yes, of course. George Webb does great YouTube videos. He is he's so far out ahead of understanding in particular
crimes, like what happened in Benghazi. I mean, yeah, this guy is fantastic. He has Such a high output. It's almost impossible to keep up with them. And yes, of course I'm familiar with them. And with that said, I dug and dug and dug and dug and dug and couldn't find this clip, but I'll never forget it verbatim. This is what he said. He was like, we're not verbatim, but
I'm gonna give you a synopsis of what he said. Arkansas. That is the home of Mena, Arkansas, home of Bill Clinton, but also home of Walmart. And Tyson's chicken, yes. Okay. This way he tells the story is they used to ship the cocaine. And Tyson's inside chicken. I've heard this. Yes, I've heard this and went validate. This for me is if you know anything about rap, hip hop, and
slang, slang for a kilo of cocaine is a chicken. So when he said that my hands are wide open, and that would make about center chicken, about two, two pounds. Yeah, good. hollowed out the hollowed out chicken. They will put it inside there. And they will distribute it to the Walmart. Which Sam Walton, Sam Walton. He's taught children of what like sixth seventh and eighth on the Forbes richest family in the world. Some pretty much yeah.
Right. So all these came out of Arkansas and he you seen this special banging? And I'm like banging in Little Rock. Why do you have gangs and Little Rock and all these drugs? Well, hello, it's in the chicken. Day you have and by the way, how cynical is that? For a drug? That was just a we take it to crack cocaine targeted black people to then put it in chicken? Holy crap, that's better. That's the worst,
even more cynical? How is it that Hillary Clinton could fix our lives to call other people's super predators. The fourth challenge is to take back our streets from crime, gangs and drugs. And we have actually been making progress on this count as a nation because of what local law enforcement officials are doing because of what citizens and neighborhood patrols are doing. We're making some progress. Much of it is related to the initiative called community policing. Because we
have finally gotten more police officers on the street. That was one of the goals that the President had when he pushed the crime bill that was passed in 1994. He promised 100,000 Police were moving in that direction. But we can see it already makes a difference. Because if we have more police interacting with people having them on the streets, we can prevent crimes, we can prevent petty crimes from turning into something worse. But we also have to have an organized effort against gangs.
Just as in a previous generation, we had an organized effort against the mob. We need to take these people on they are often connected to big drug cartels. They are not just gangs of kids anymore. They are often the kinds of kids that are
called super predators, no conscience, no empathy. We can talk about why they ended up that way but first we have to bring them to heel and the President has asked the FBI to launch a very concerted effort against gangs everywhere that's that's one of my favorite clips because it has everything in it Scott that they need to bring him to heal I love that is super predators with you know, in the old contract, I connect it to large cartels. Oh, yeah. The one of me and my husband Ron.
This is in the old country we say what yourself being yourself Mr. Caputo, the health you are what you accuse others of Jackie. That excuse my cues in French is always the way it is there's so brazen on real. So one of those super predators and this is going to just be foreshadowing to how I know what's coming. Now we know the biggest super predator on the scene. Mr. Shawn Jay Z Carter. He owns Rockefeller records. Now let me shine a little light on the name
Rockefeller. Rockefeller can mean you know, David Rockefeller wanted the Illuminati aka white supreme on white supremacy. Oh, wait, let me guess. Let me guess. Let me guess. Let me guess. Something with rock. No Rockefeller drug laws, oh my goodness, which are the statutes dealing with the sale and possession of narcotic drugs in New York State penal law. The law was named after Nelson Rockefeller, who was the state governor at the
time the law was adopted. Rockefeller had previously backed drug rehabilitation, job training and Housing Strategy strategies have seen drugs as a social problem rather than a criminal one, but did not but did an about face during a period of mounting national anxiety about drug use and crime. Prime, Rockefeller stopped supporting the bill containing the law had presidential ambitions and so wanted to raise his national posture by being tough on crime.
And now Mr. Jay Z names his record label after Rockefeller and now find it weird that the Rockefeller family never made him change name his record label. Yeah. And I even find it more weird that Mr. super predator himself, Jay Z Boulais, extraordinaire, and his wife show support for Hillary Clinton in 2016. Eight years ago, I was so inspired to know that my nephew, a young black child, could grow up knowing his dreams could be realized by witnessing a black president in office. And now, we
have the opportunity to create more changes. I want my daughter to grow up seeing a woman lead our country. The possibilities are limitless. We have to think about the future of our daughters, our sons and vote for someone who cares for them as much as we do. And that is why I'm with her. I don't I don't have any ill will towards him. But his compensation is divisive. And that's not evolved. So to me, so he cannot be my president. He cannot be our president. Once
you divide us, you weaken us. We're stronger together. Once you divide us, you weaken us. We are stronger together. Without further ado, I would like to introduce to you the next President of the United States. Yes, Miss butter biscuit, Beyonce right there front and center with JL z. What a freaking joke. You know, this is a psychological thing and just came up on the Rogen show about the Google guys. You know, people who are abused often go on to abuse others. Abused
Children often go on to abuse children. Abused Children, abused children, and it perpetuates. And I think this is a clear example of this psychological condition. I have no other explanation for it. I really don't. I don't. I mean, why else? Would you be like that? Would you do that? How is it that she can fit her mouth to call people super predators? And a very poster book? I mean, poster child for being a super predator. You have him campaign for you? Yeah.
Well, I don't I don't understand how birds of a feather flock together. It blows my mind this, okay, I want everyone hear me now. Believe me later. You must tweet this episode, in relation to Hillary Clinton's documentary before you watch the documentary. Listen to this show. Telly tell people that because it puts a lot of context
into what's going on. If you are voting in a Democratic primary, by the way, there's also you know, when it comes down to election, there are also independent parties and not just to you can choose from. I always choose for the guy who wants to build a dome around something and give flame throwers to to teachers. But bear in mind, the history of what appears to be the two front runners Joe Biden and Bernie Sanders and what you've heard today and propagate that formula, let people know
about it. It's and I'm just as guilty of it. I forget. You know, I've been looking at Joe Biden for weeks now on this, this that just look at how senile he is. And I completely forget to like, oh, man, he wrote the bill. It wasn't just, you know how he said up? Thank God. I was a part of that. When and by the way, when he says I was a part of the the assault weapon ban yet the assault with a man actually was what first title in the actual 1994 crime bill. So it wasn't a separate
entity, because because he wrote a whole thing. And you can't just let the man take credit for one part and not the other part. And in closing, what I find just what baffles me is he has a son who allegedly struggles with addiction. Oh, it's not a legend. He's been arrested for it. He was kicked out of the middle of try for it. So where's the compassion? This thing can't mean drugs is not something that you, they always set it up and I'm gonna close on
this. We heard in The Godfather, what they say, you can sell drugs now and you leave it down there with the niggers. And I don't use that word very often on this show. I don't think I ever have but just to show you the potency of the idea. Yeah, bring it in, leave it down there with the you know, the blacks, quote unquote, the blacks and you know, let it kill them, but it always seeps out and it comes, you know, comes at him
close to home. And it there's no, there's no compassion. And like I said, the only solution is we had to police ourselves. We have to have police come from the community, and an essay and pay attention to who you're voting for. That does matter and I'm talking local, real true politics is local look at what's going on in your city like City Council, look at who your local representatives are, who your representatives in, in Congress
in the Senate. These are the people you need to hound, the the figureheads, and there's, there's reasons for them, there's important reasons for them, but look at your local situation. That's where you can change the most. And please consider supporting the work that is being done here on mo facts with Adam curry. You can find our episodes more information at mo facts.com And we have a direct link to our donation page at mo fund me.com where we be spitting the truth once a week.
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