27: Lift-Gate

FAQs with Adam curry for February 29 2020. This is episode number 27. Amo. I know Adam, I'm doing good man and apologies to every buddy who's been listening. And that includes all the producers for being a few days late this week. We just ran into some real life issues, but we're back on track. Yeah. Now. I'm not quite sure we're going to do next week because I leave for Los Angeles for a couple of days do the Rogen show on Monday, so I won't be back until Wednesday. So it may not

be until Friday or Saturday next week until we do it again. Okay, it will be on the same cycle it looks like so Yeah, something like that. It'll shift but you know, we're still sticking with I want to and how about it we get to do it on on Leap Day. No, not Leap Day. Isn't today is Black History bonus? I should have known Yes. This is a special Black History Month. Yes. Black we get. We get one. One more. almost a month. One more day closer to

moving on up mo Alma. One of these days you guys will get a 31 day month. I'm telling you just stick with it. Maybe Maybe. All right. Lots of clips. lots lots to get to today. Very excited to hear we're going to do and for that. Of course we need to roll out the big wheel of clips. Let's see what the topic will be. We're what are we going to get the Oh, it's slowing down and what will we get? What happened to mini Mike? Where's he many Mike has spent a

fortune. There is no buddy I'd rather run again. Then Little Mike, huh? We're going on political today? I like it. Yes. Okay. My Bloomberg, you asked some questions about my Bloomberg on the last show. Yeah, if he was a viable candidate for for a DDoS. Right. So I found something that I'm going to cover that but I found something even more interesting is the billionaire beef between Donald Trump and Michael Bloomberg.

Yes, not discussed very much. The mainstream doesn't like to show this because that would discredit their possible white knight. So I'm glad you picked some of this up. So in this show, what we're going to do is compare and contrast the two against each other and how the media covers covers the two in different ways. So I guess we'll just jump right in with Trump and Bloomberg used to be friends past President Trump attacks. The Democrats battling fake them

out in November. He's increasingly targeting a fellow billionaire in New York. former New York Mayor Michael Bloomberg, and the former mayor is fighting right back soon as Brian Todd is here with more of Brian Trump and Bloomberg. They share a very long history they do share a long history with as Titanic power players in New York, Donald Trump and Michael Bloomberg at various times partnered on different projects, they engaged socially and praise each other for what each had

done for the city. But they split politically when Trump declared for president and tonight it's clear that Donald Trump sees Michael Bloomberg as a threat. Lucky's a lightweight, the way they talk about each other now, you'd think they've been enemies for life. I am not afraid of Donald Trump. But back in New York back in the day, a different dynamic. And I have to say you have been a great American. You really have I mean, this guy is.

That was in October 2013. Then New York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg and Donald Trump lavished praise on each other, after Trump helped Bloomberg convert a trash dump in the Bronx into a high end golf course. But if there's anybody that has changed this city, it is Donald Trump, he really has done an amazing thing. And this is another part of it, Donald, thank you for your confidence.

Analysts say that partnership actually could have been the genesis of their falling out because in a 2016 interview with Wolf Blitzer Trump took all the credit for the project. They took it over and got it knocked up in one year and now it's a tremendous success. Michael asked me if I'd get involved in it. Bloomberg thought that was an exaggeration. His former aides thought that was an exaggeration. And it's sort of split between them. Oh, man. Oh, don't tell me this is this is just a cockfight.

Being a billion dollar one, so maybe it was a legend, a billionaire. So, right. You never know if you listen to the mainstream media, but so what really intrigued me about this is you have two people that used to be friends. We're not friends anymore, or were they ever friend were they just using

each other? For what But they could offer each other. So I think this will be a great matchup in light of this Bloomberg did a CNN town hall the other day, which I watched, and, you know, well, I'm just gonna withhold judgment. Because I, I learned a couple things I didn't know. And I just saw some things that I hadn't realized earlier. So I'm very curious to see where you take us in this. Okay, so I mean, we can just jump into part two.

But before then Donald Trump and Michael Bloomberg appeared to get along, or at least found each other useful. Trump back Bloomberg effort to run for a third term as New York's mayor. They golf together, Bloomberg appeared on Trump's NBC show The Apprentice, and their daughters appeared in an HBO documentary called born rich. But analysts say in the real world of New York Business and philanthropy.

In that world, it was Bloomberg who was the star and it was Trump who was the one who was always looking for acceptance and rarely getting it. During all of his life, Donald Trump has longed for the approval of the New York establishment. Mike Bloomberg was the New York establishment now the two are being compared and contrasted under a microscope.

Yeah, that's interesting. I've mentioned many times on no agenda show that I know this type of guy, this type of guy that Trump is, who is I've been to a lot of these types of parties, not so much in New York, but it's the same

everywhere in the world. And you've got the elites, you know, the old money, the, you know, even show business isn't really considered part of their part of their circle, but they let the people in, you know, show business because they're pretty, and they get attention and they can hang out with him and other rich people, even if they don't like it and be like, okay, you know, we'll we'll let them hang out with us. But I don't know if Trump really wanted that acceptance, most of these guys

that I know. And also some women absolutely crave that acceptance in those circles, and usually don't get it. So that's just a personal experience. And what I find interesting is, Trump came from a affluent background, you know, rich father, and Bloomberg didn't, but Bloomberg is more accepted. Yeah, yes. The elites and you also have to understand the difference. Having lived there

the difference between Manhattan and Queens? I mean, you might as well have a passport checkpoint, when it comes to how it goes to area does boroughs are perceived certainly by each other. Okay, interesting. So, I guess we'll just jump right into on clip three, both switched political parties repeatedly, and were unexpected winners in their biggest elections, and both became

billionaires. Although on the Forbes list of the wealthiest Americans at the end of last year, Michael Bloomberg ranked eighth was $53.4 billion, while Trump ranked 275th with 3.1 billion. They both named their businesses after themselves. They're both very wealthy people. But Bloomberg came from a more working class background and Donald Trump, of course, heard a

lot of money from his father to run, run his business. He's going forward, how nasty and also Arsenal were another battle becomes, I think in a head to head battle, Mike Bloomberg and Donald Trump will be nastier than anything we've seen in politics, perhaps in 100 years. These these are two people who are not afraid to fight, and they're not afraid to fight in a very personal way. No, it's a great time to be alive. And this is exactly why I want to see this matchup Yeah, of

course, it would be a beauty. Bernie is Trump will be good too. But this one right here will be great because they will let the words fly. And I just want to see if you noticed the media threw some shade at Trump by saying oh, he was number 250 something on the list of billionaires. Is this real? This real billionaire fake beard and everything. And they just gonna say these lists are such horse crap. I've been on these lists back when I actually had a lot of money. And

they would wild in my case wildly overestimate. Oh, curry. Yeah, he's got probably 200 and 200 million. That's right. That's why I'm doing podcasts now, everybody. So these lists are most of the people on the list are usually angry because their number isn't right. The ranking. I'm not sure how that plays into people. I think most people just like, oh, yeah, I'm on the list. Now. It's kind of cool. But now who knows what the accuracy is.

And the media really wants his matchup because of the amount of money that was be spent. I know Trump is sitting on a couple of maybe billion Oh yeah, his war chest in. I mean, Bloomberg has well i I'm hurt up to $53 billion. So dropping a couple billion dollars out of his own pocket won't be anything so the media really wants this matchup and they're pushing it.

And just just like the although I really think the Bernie Trump matchup would be what we need because we need to know are we socialists, are we capitalist which direction do we want to go in, but knowing whether you can buy your way into the presidency, which is clearly what Bloomberg has been doing, it's also important to know.

It'll be interesting to see how it goes either way. But what we want to see here, what I want to do today with what the show is, compare and contrast some of the views, or whatever. Basically, basically, what we're gonna do here is we're doing all of the color commentary before the thriller in Manila is that this is, so if it doesn't happen, okay, but this would be the preamble to this. We are getting ready for

the big pay per view event, ladies and gentlemen. And boy, these two guys, it would make sense if you had to pay to view it. But this is what's going on. And with that said, we have Trump ripping through dems. And now they have a new member of the crew, mini Mike. Minimum. No boxes, we call him no boxes. And I hear he's getting pounded tonight. You know, he's in a debate. pounding him. He spent $500 million so far. And I think he has 15 points. It just came

out he fake news. How many points does he have right now? 50. They won't tell you the truth. They won't tell you the truth. They just came out with a poll a little while ago. Mini Mike was at 15. And crazy. Bernie was at 31. That's a lot. And many Mike just spent $500 million. A lot of money. So we got great nicknames here. We got many Mike. Yeah. No, no boxes. Yeah, this is why I came. I'm so down with it Mo. And we have this is we're a 2020. And this is actual

presidential election. This, this is where we're at. We have two billionaires firing tweets back and forth to each other. Yeah, it minus the tweets. It's kind of like Russia. So let's listen to the Bloomberg fire back. CNN reports Bloomberg has already spent more than 350 $50 million of his own money. He has a reported net worth of $60 billion left to play around with one of the takeaways here and there's a bunch is the shift and black support among the top three candidates. Biden is losing that

support. While both Sanders and Bloomberg are trending up. Keep in mind this was a Republican mayor, in a very democratic city, a Republican mayor who was a Rudy Giuliani ally, who had gotten into some trouble because his policing policy stop and frisk had been ruled unconstitutional. How did he get endorsements from key Democrats in his New York City

races? Well, one thing he would do is that he would donate very generously to keep people you know, to nonprofits, or maybe a church group that someone who led the church was very influential. So he was able to curry favor with people who can then give him very meaningful endorsements. Furthermore, he could also silence critics after he had transferred his his voter ID from Republican to independent. The Republican Party never attacked him after that, for the rest of his

mayoral teen was sort of curious. But then you look at those financial filings and you see he was giving them millions of dollars. You've been able to use his money to both curry support but also silence dissent. I think Mike has the experience. I think that he has the right values. I think he has the capability to take on what is just an incredible machine, which is going to be the Trump reelection campaign. Yes, I hereby issue a cease and desist on the term currying

favor. I'm getting a little annoyed by it. So Bloomberg, is mysteriously rising. He's rising into popularity with the black black vote or you know, according to the according to the pose, which the media do the polls, and he has a big old pile of billions to spread around so of course they're going to keep them around. out and just put an earmark in one thing they brought up in this clip that stop and frisk, because we're going to revisit that good right after we listen to fire back to.

Well, this morning he took us attacks Twitter, the President did posting his altered image of the man he's dubbed mini Mike and calling him a loser who has money but can't debate and a five foot four inch mass of dead energy. Bloomberg quickly hit back swinging at Trump. We know many of the same people in New York behind your back. They laugh at you and call you a carnival barking clown. They know you inherited a fortune and squandered it with stupid deals and incompetence.

That that is even better. As a WWE preview. This is good. So what Trump Trump is coming at Mike being a petite man. And I think it gets under Bloomberg skin. But Bloomberg went real low with by saying, I know the people that we both hang out with the same people they think you're a clown. Yeah. That gets under Trump's, what do you think? Do you think it does? I think deep down. Sharp is the Joker because they he wasn't allowed to be Batman.

Oh, I like that. I'm like that. Yeah, he he wanted to be Bruce Wayne. And you know, he wanted to be that, you know, the, you know, that hero type. But he just is the class thing. Like, I mean, you brought it up yourself with the queens and I never looked at it as the borough, the borough lands. But yeah. I mean, it's just the same as New York and New Jersey. I mean, we get along, but we're really different people. And there's a reason for that. And we're gonna, we're doing a

lot of foreshadowing here. But as I promised, we're gonna get back to the stop and frisk. Topic and how Trump viewed it in the 2016 election. And when it comes to stop and frisk, you know, you're talking about taking guns away while I'm talking about taking guns away from gangs and people that use them. And I don't think I really don't think you disagree with me on this. If you want to know the truth. I think maybe there's a political reason why you can't

say it. But I really don't believe in New York City. Stop and Frisk. We had 2200 murders, and stop and frisk brought it down to 500. Murders, 500, murders, a lot of murders. Hard to believe 500 is like supposed to be good. But we went from 2200 to 500. And it was continued on by Mayor Bloomberg. And it was terminated by current mayor, but stop and fit for us had a tremendous impact on the safety of New York City. Tremendous beyond belief. So when you say it has no impact,

it really did. It had a very, very big impact. How old was this clip? Do you know that was from 2016 to 2016? This was in 2016. debate against Hillary Clinton. And he was telling me oh, you even you even might agree with it. But for political reasons, you can't say that. So I want to make it clear that Trump is all for stop and frisk, when it comes to find out that up until now 2019. Bloomberg was also a fan of stop and frisk. And a journalist journalist is supposed to

Bloomberg is racist. That's the hashtag that's trending on Twitter. Since audio of remarks made by the 2020 Democratic presidential hopeful the former New York City Mayor Michael

Bloomberg surfaced earlier this week. In the clip from the 2015 Aspen Institute, Bloomberg is heard defending the New York City Police Department's controversial stop and frisk policies, saying quote 95% of murders murdered victims fit one MO You can just take the description Xerox it pass it out to all the cops, listen closely. Murder and murder they are male minorities. That's Mike Bloomberg saying quote, they are male minority 16 to 25. That's true in New York. That's true in virtually every

city. He went on to say, quote, and the way you get the guns out of the kid's hands is to throw them up against the walls and frisk them. Bloomberg issued a statement Tuesday saying quote, I inherited the police practice of stop and frisk. And as part of our effort to stop gun violence, it was overused by the time I left office, I cut it back by 95%. But I should have done it faster and sooner. I regret that and I have apologized, unquote.

Yeah, I have some actual numbers on that. don't know if it's appropriate at this point in your presentation. I mean, you could share. This started under Giuliani and it was always called, and I think it still officially is called Stop question and frisk. And this all came out in, in a lawsuit, and I believe it was ultimately the Supreme Court who said it was my worry with these things, his constitutionality. First, they ran into was not

unconstitutional. But the way it was implemented, could have been deemed unconstitutional. There's no real question of race in this case, just leaving that clip aside. But when it started, then I believe they stopped 200,000 people no 100,000 people, and 50,000 had some form of weapon or a prior conviction or a warrant, etc. And what in under Bloomberg, that went up to 650,000 people, but the amount of of people who actually were arrested because of the stop question and frisk only went up

marginally. So about 10%. So went up about from 50 to 65. Now, the, the what you need to factor into that is, and you don't know exactly if that's because of the more that he did or not, is that indeed the murder rate did have under Bloomberg versus Giuliani. And as far as I know, the practice is still in place today, in and in many other cities in the United States.

And you're exactly right with those numbers. But when you look at it, and how people view Trump and his view on stop, and freeze versus Bloomberg is like night and day, if they give him a path, like like, they just say, he apologizes, like you're gonna hear later, how people just kind of write it off and accept his apology. But let's get in. Let's actually listen to the journalist who was supposed to Bloomberg. But Bloomberg did not just inherit stop and frisk. During

his tenure as mayor. The use of the practice increased seven fold. During his time in office, the New York Police recorded over 5 million stop and frisk, the vast majority of those stops were black and Latino. As mayor of New York, Bloomberg, long defended stop and frisk. This is Bloomberg speaking during a 2013 interview on wor radio. They just keep saying, Oh, it's a disproportionate percentage of

a particular ethnic group. That may be but it's not a disproportionate percentage of those who witnesses and victims describe as committing or in that case, incidentally, I think we disproportionately stop whites too much. And minorities too little. In fact, 1000s of people marched against stop and frisk during his three terms in office, Bloomberg defended stop and frisk as recently as 2019. Only apologizing for the practice publicly in November, shortly after entering the presidential race.

Well, yeah, yeah, I can. What is that? It's see, I can see where well, here's how his and Bloomberg, by the way doesn't give a shit about anybody. I'm pretty convinced of it. He's on a whole different plane, a whole different plane. But he's being in his mind pragmatic. And he's saying, Well, here's the statistics that we see. Now, of course, if you're doing stop and frisk in neighborhood where it's predominantly darker colored skin, because that's really what

we're talking about here. And that's not just a Doss, it's Latinos, it's all it's all different kinds of darker skin. That's what I'm saying. Well, that's where they live, if that's where you're stopping and frisking. I can see how those numbers pan out. But you're really identifying something we already knew you're identifying that there's a lot of black on black crime and cities as a lot of crime in, in poor

neighborhoods. I think personally, in a 10 year tenure, instead of increasing, you're putting a bandaid on the problem. And the thinking is, well, if you know you can get stopped, I mean, thrown against the wall, then you're probably not going to bring your gun with you when you go out into the street. Okay, right. But there's other ways to solve this problem. And I think the lack of imagination is what bothers me the most.

And it's that Bloomberg is a walking talking algorithm. If you listen to what he said, he was like, Oh, well, if you just look at the numbers, were harassing white people too much. When you harass other people, that doesn't play that doesn't play very well. For me, algo perspective, I understand what he's saying. But, again, it's egregious that

he's saying this. And I think this is really this is the racial issue right here, instead of saying, oh, you know, why don't we turn around and try some other things to eradicate poverty in these neighborhoods? Now, let me be hypothetical for a minute. Let's say, you know, white guys do a majority of the white collar crime. So we're just going to break into your financial records without a

warrant, ya know, and poke around and see what we find. And we're going to target, you know, affluent white men, because that's who is committing a lot of these crimes. How long would that stand? Well, if you if you said it that way, it wouldn't stand at all. Unfortunately, it's true. You forgot one descriptor, though. If it's conservative white men, they get new get targeted for that mainly by the IRS, which is a political weapon. So that but

yes, I understand exactly what you're saying. And of course, is if the SEC was just standing outside of Wall Street, you know, banks and say, give me your phone. Oh, you know, I mean, my analogy works. And you know, how do we go about preventing this instead of just trying to nail people? So that is the is the issue with stop and frisk. But I mean, it's big money, you know, on both sides.

What happened? No, no, no, of course not. Of course not. No. And, and if you really did that in earnest, then you'd find a lot of stuff a lot of politicians don't want people to know. And the money on the back end, the big money on the back end is the increase in property value. Yes, because the heavy policing comes in with the gentrification. Yep, and all. We're gonna see how all this ties together, but let's get into clip three.

But for more, we're going to Atlanta, Georgia, where we're joined by Benjamin Dixon, the host of the Benjamin Dixon show and podcast, he on Earth and publicize the 2015 audio of Michael Bloomberg speaking at the Aspen Institute that we just

played for you. Dixon is the co founder of the North star.com, the revitalized abolitionist newspaper of Frederick Douglass, it's great to have you with us, Benjamin Dixon, talk about I mean, it's very clear that the Bloomberg campaign knew that this was going to drop they knew there was this recording, however, muffled of his statements at the Aspen

Institute from 2015. And they were ready with a statement, talk about why you released this, how you found it, and that and what Bloomberg has said in response. Yes, thanks for having me, Amy. It was online, it was hiding in plain sight. I've read several articles about this speech. And what drew my attention to it was the fact that they were looking that Bloomberg team actually requested that the video from the Aspen Institute not be released at the Aspen Institute

acquiesced they did not release the video. But I was hoping to be able to find at least a an audio clip. And that's exactly what I found. It had been online for five years, I was able to isolate it, cut it up and make it a little more audible. And I felt that it just carried a significant impact that the words in the article did not I felt like people needed to hear his voice say these things. Thank God for podcasters it took a podcast now we have all these huge news rooms and

they're, you know, it's amazing. Stop and Frisk. I mean, they Donald Trump anything, they could go find it. Talk to anybody, but it's a it's on YouTube for five years. And none of your big publication, you know, publications picked it up, nor the Trump campaign. I'm sure they didn't want to touch it, seeing considering his endorsement of it in the past. Well, Trump has an interesting view on that, and we'll hear that and click for and on Tuesday morning, President Trump tweeted, wow,

Bloomberg is a total racist. This was in response to the video, the audio you released. Wow. Bloomberg is a total racist. Trump later deleted the post. Interestingly, while campaigning for president in 2016, Trump called for stop and frisk to be instituted nationwide. Right. Right. Yeah. The level of hypocrisy that comes from the President isn't surprising. But that's really that exemplifies the weakness that candidates like Michael Bloomberg will have

against Donald Trump. His audience has no problem with the fact that he is a racist, but he will call someone else a racist. Michael Bloomberg has put himself in a position where he has a long standing history of problems in New York City, particularly with stop and frisk. And so the President will stand on the debate stage and call him a racist when the rest of America knows that he's the white supremacist and chief. So there you go. That's takes a blogger to know that too, I guess.

So Trump's the white supremacist in chief. Yes, but Bloomberg just has probably not a white supremacist. Whereas it was it's one thing for Trump to say, hey, here are the numbers, look at what happened murder rate went down. It's a little different to say, hey, you can just copy the profile and throw them against the wall. I think there's a little more racist undertones in Bloomberg is a description. And you inherit it from Jr. Giuliani and you ratchet it up,

you know, 660 600% or something like 500%. Right. So I mean, it wasn't bad. He's like, Oh, yeah. Hold my beer. Giuliani. Let me show you how to stop. Yeah. But then it's also hilarious. But Trump to gaslight and say, Hey, blue bars are racist for supporting stopping freeze. My mind is this. Is this. Is this a topic? Is this something that the eight of us is talking about about this? Or is it your sharp mind which you have that you pick up on this?

Well, no. Okay, the no vote. Eight is foundational black native black crowd, though people are saying we're not going to vote unless we get some something tangible. That crowd is calling out their hypocrisy from the mainstream media. The hypocrisy that they're not sure how they cover one and why you know, whitewash the others. Sins. Got it. And all Bloomberg has to do is apologize. Well, yeah, he's Michael Bloomberg. He's got $60 billion that matters in America.

Well, let's listen to him apologize. We begin tonight with that stop and frisk apology from New York City's former Mayor Michael Bloomberg. He made the comments during a service at a Brooklyn church today. Many are now saying the apology is quote, long overdue. TV tentative designs. Hazel Sanchez has the story. I can't change history. However, today, I want you to know that I realized back then I was wrong. And I'm sorry.

On Sunday morning, former Mayor Mike Bloomberg stood before the Christian Cultural Center in Brooklyn, and apologized for the stop and frisk policy he long supported while he ran New York City. Now that he's making a run for the White House. Many New Yorkers are doubting his apology is sincere. Do you think it's sincere? about trying to get votes. It's real convenient. That's what it looks like.

I got something important, really wrong. I didn't understand that back then the full impact that stops were having on the black and Latino communities. I was totally focused on saving lives. But as we know, good intentions aren't good enough. Man, I hope you have the clip where Bloomberg says, Well, I have black friends and they tell me that this was no good. I don't I don't have that clue. But it's amazing. However, I didn't realize, gee, storing harassing people citizens moving

freely inside of a city? Yeah, I didn't realize that it was gonna be a problem. Here it is. Here it is. And I know a lot of black people that if they were white, it would have been a lot easier for them. Something when I was thinking of it, stuff like that, like, Oh, I know a lot of black people. Well, you didn't know before, Mike, that you black people didn't say Hey, this is fucked up, Mike. No. No. Well, for one reason. Even after his apology, there's

always somebody that willing to get the butter biscuits. Yeah. Yes, apology to Brooklyn Borough President and former NYPD officer Eric Adams, met with Bloomberg today when my crews I believe sincerely felt as though they made a grave mistake. years ago in the implementation of stop and frisk. I accept his apology. I believe that the question now becomes how do we move forward? What do we do now after that acknowledgement? Well, who was this?

That is the president of the Brooklyn Borough police. You give me the play the first like 10 seconds they'll give his title again. Yeah, just want to hear that. Okay. Brooklyn Borough President and former NYPD officer Eric Adams, Brooklyn Borough President, okay. Yeah, but you got $60 billion $50 billion. You, Man, you know how big it had played is a butter biscuits. I mean, you can you can buy whoever you want. Yes, I do, actually.

And notice how quiet everybody really and it's not even. And when I say butter biscuits, that's not even a racial thing. Because you notice how MSNBC, CNN, they're kind of like oh, Yeah, he apologized. Explain to explain the butter biscuits again. Okay. So what this is is, is typically used towards black people by other black people to say when somebody says something No, it's not true, but it gains them financially or in some cloud or affluence. They they'll go out and be bought off and the

currency that they're bought off in is butter biscuits. Just the split just a little bit it's like Bitcoin only tastier. Right? Oh, only butter here. So, of course Trump couldn't let this apology slide by and he had to say it was disingenuous to say, Mr. President, you took on Michael Bloomberg and Brad parscale did as well over stop and frisk in 2016. And 2018. You praised Rudy Giuliani for the stop and frisk program. So what's different about what Bloomberg said, from what you

believe that? When I looked at it, and I watched him pander under church and practically beg for forgiveness, I wouldn't have begged for forgiveness. I mean, he was doing his job at the time. And then he, when he went up to the church, I thought it

was disgraceful. Do you support that policy? And is it as you said, in a tweet, to get down crime and to get rid of drugs, but I think when a man is with stop and frisk his whole life, and then he decides to go Democrat, and he goes to a church, and he's practically crying, it looked like hell, he's practically crying, saying how what a horrible thing he did. I think it's so disingenuous, you know what I'm

talking about those that was so of lumber. Look, he's a lightweight, he's a lightweight, you're gonna find that out. So this is this, I think this is why Trump gets respect for at least doubling down on what you believe, right? Even though I don't agree with it. Stopping phrase was a terrible thing. It was basically my point of view, a form of martial law, because when you can't move freely in your own community, that's a problem. Yeah, it's, of course,

that's a huge problem. But we have to understand the black Boulais was on board with these things with the crime bill with the stop and frisk, they are on board because they looked at it like, oh, we need to do something to keep our place. Because, you know, when we had this all stems from the problem with the drugs and crack era in the 80s, right, you know, it was basically go back to 70s, really, with the heroin

epidemic. But I mean, these communities became basically drug drugs zones and war zones with the with the guns and drugs. Are you saying the Boulais would like to have it continue contained? Is that what I'm hearing you say? Well, what is how it worked? The citizens would go to the Boulais. A representative in their community, you know, the mayor, aldermen, whoever they are, yes. Eric Adams, yeah, you, you need to clean the streets up. Let's say this is what say,

you know, my kids can't play. And instead of being Hackman sophisticated, they just went and said to people like Bloomberg Giuliani and whoever else, you need to crack down. They crack down. But the problem is, the police didn't distinguish between a kid and isn't kid walking down the street with a hoodie, hoodie, hoodie hoodie on and an actual criminal, right? It was like, we're just we're just doing it

by the numbers. You know, you look as Giuliani said. I mean, I'm not Giuliani, but Bloomberg said you could just, you could Xerox the picture and it meant, you know, it would just like if you fit the description, if you're black or brown, within you know, 15 to maybe 30 You are more likely going to be a criminal. They didn't do any policing from the top down is taking down the kingpins they always. They Exactly. No, no other majors identifying the problem. This was this was

the it's the the Belgian screwdriver. You know, it's like she's bashing away with a screwdriver at the problem. Right, so let's get back into listen to Trump call Bloomberg disingenuous. He's also one of the worst debaters I've ever seen. And his presence is zero. So he'll spend his three, four or $500 million. Maybe they will take it away. Frankly, I'd rather run against Bloomberg than Bernie Sanders. Because Sanders has real followers, whether you like him or not, whether you agree with

him or not. I happen to think it's terrible what he says. But he has followers. Bloomberg is buying his way in, but we're gonna find out what happens We're gonna find out. But when you watch go back to the church where he apologized for everything he ever did practically. And he looked pathetic. Our country doesn't need that kind of leadership. Yeah, yes. I too would like to see this Bloomberg, I agree with you,

Trump. I want to see the Bloomberg Trump battle. But just to give a little context, to what a stop and frisk interaction will look like, between cops and young men in those neighborhoods. I felt this documentary called the hunted and the hated the inside look at the NYPD, NYPD stop and frisk

policy. And that was directed by Ross Tuttle walking home from my girlfriend's house in a Costco and passed me a couple of seconds later I heard the call center around and they just popped out it just jumped out the car. I decided to record it because I was getting stopped a lot and I didn't have evidence of copy and disrespectful and so I'll put the button and record the whole thing

you just got stopped by to black soil. Very suspicious because I've always written I'm crazy you keep looking back at us because you always always looking crazy. Oh come to the blog. Always our job our jobs love it. You keep that as always like started I just got stopped like two blocks away because you keep doing that shit. Man. We stopped last time because listen to me. When you walk in the block, which you put up and you keep looking back at us like they do that. It was cold smack.

smack me. Don't you see you in the Smash? Yes. No, you asked me why I'm talking to you. That's why you think you're Oh, why? Why are you touching me for man? That's because he's wearing a hoodie. Yeah, walking out the block with a book bag. Yeah, and that's the reason why I played this is this is the Mo Yeah, if you're brown, brown, I mean any shade of brown. wearing a hoodie and walking up the block with a book bag? Yeah, bad you fit the MO very bad.

How many kids go to school like that every day. And I want to I just want to shed light on this. I understand that something needs to be done for the crime. But these people are geniuses Bloomberg is a genius. And the best you can do is just like harass people.

Well even worse it starts off with the cop saying that you were looking at us said yeah because you're standing there menacing and I mean I think anyone knows that if we were being pulled over I was pulled over just recently and the first thing I said is like hey man, you got to really ride my ass so you know if you're pulling me over for speeding I don't know when I was speeding but I didn't like it and you know I pulled over into the right hand lane. And it can be intimidating to

anybody of any age. It used to be different but yeah and then and then to say well it's because you were why you wear your hoodie that's wrong man so wrong. So let's let's do the second clip in this interaction who's holding me is going to pack is going up down? Did you go into my sweater then that's when that's when he told me keep my hands on my head so I was like this stole time

want to go to jail? Shut fucking mouth now and I'm getting arrested for being a fucking mud in the mud you he decided to take my hair from him and put it behind my back Shut your fucking mouth you asked me questions and explore one point I was in no reason you want somebody to take a break and what was your father? Got a phone where traffic? Your traffic? Don't touch me. Okay, he's Yeah, yeah, and this key is the son of a cop. Yeah, traffic copter doesn't count. Traffic I'm not the same thing.

Wow. How's that work? Well, the things that you were you were exploring so I think I mean, everything floors. I think he's like the kid. He's a kid police program. Oh, okay. Exponent mistake. So I mean I like this guy. This kid is anti cop. It's just I mean, you've been harassed. I mean, just the freedom of movement. Man, that's That's wrong. That's wrong. I just I don't I don't agree with that and the irks me.

It's yeah, the police explorers career oriented program gives young adults the opportunity to explore a career in law enforcement by working with local law enforcement agencies. Do we know what happened to these officers who, who treated him this way? I think he filed a complaint against them. But I don't think I don't know I didn't finish the documentary. I just want to catch more than interaction. Just so people can hear. You

have a son of a police officer walk into his community. He would work he wanted obviously explored the potential to be a police officer himself. And then you want I mean, you call him a mutt. And you know, what it is what it is, my problem is when you have these people condemn one side being Trump and give the other side of path because he apologized and the other guy was the actual one instituting the policy or ratcheting up the

policy. And that's real rude and condoning it, you know that there were plenty of complaints. I mean, this, this was news. I mean, I was in New York, this was news people knew about this, it was a lot of talk about it. And he supported it all the way up to 2019. He doesn't want to speech came from the hate speech. So it was like just say you're sorry. It's easy. Alright, so but we're gonna listen to one of our favorite contributors Miss Carrie Hunter and Bloomberg stop and frisk problem.

2015 All right. Now, since running, I think Bloomberg apologized. Do we accept his apology? Go ahead, play his apology. I was wrong. And I'm sorry. Oh, that's a real apology. I'm making a juxtaposition because Snoop didn't apologize anyway. 8668 Petty, and just by doing that, you know, that method which started under Giuliani, which he continued with the cops, that's Ray Kelly, put a lot of black

lives in harm, create a lot of trauma. There were more black boys in particular, black men stopped and fixed in their ex existed in the city of New York. And there's a lot of black people in New York, the largest black city city in America. And yeah, it was painful. Does the apology cover it? I mean, I think he was sincere in his apology for a number of reasons. Yes, he's running for president. He needs the black vote to to

win. But I think that you know, just like his Greenwood initiative that he put out after he found out about Tulsa, yeah, last year, which is baffling to me that you can live in a country and not know. Where'd you hear this? Where was where was Reverend owl all these years? I mean, I know New York. This is his backyard. You just want to make sure let me see. 2012 Rev. Owl takes Newark, NYPD stop and frisk law

to task with upcoming silent march. So then I'm sure that Bloomberg paid him in the went away as rev al does. As I said in the previous clip he saw on it you know he's done it says he's he's naysayers. Well, you got that kind of cash. I mean, what are you gonna do? But did you hear how she's like, oh, yeah, he apologized and that we accept it. You know, he he wants to be president. He needs the black vote so it must be sincere. How does that logic work? That will make it insincere.

Here we go. Reverend Al Sharpton. This is from 2010 Finally disagree with Mayor Bloomberg a week ago on how to change elections in the city. See, okay. Sharpness National Action Network out of $110,000 grant from a brand new nonprofit funded by Bloomberg. Just want to make sure we stay on top of that. Jumoke don't like him. Damn. He's one of the most powerful men and in in this game. Oh, yeah. And when he gets in there in a race game, yeah.

But let's continue to listen to, I guess, Karen Hunter, Bloomberg topology. That's why we have to be informed. That's why I go so hard to paint. So my question is, number one, people running for president. They're going to need the black vote to win on the Democratic side and Trump is baffled by why he doesn't have more black supporter because you're racist, sir. Listen, it doesn't matter how many programs you do, how many black people

you let out of jail. If you legalize marijuana. At your core, you hate black people, and I think if you had the option tunity to get rid of all black people, and I'm talking about Mexicans, anybody with any melanin? Anybody from any country that speaks any language other than English. I think you would wave a wand and get rid of us. That's fucking unhinged this woman. Is these horrible. Oh, my God woman. Oh, my knee. Yeah. You said about Al Sharpton Come on now.

We're talking about Bloomberg and stopping freeze. All of a sudden you accept his apology, but he's not a racist. And he you say it doesn't matter how many black people you let out of jail. That doesn't tell him for it. But Bloomberg is apology atones for HIV actually lock in black people look. Like, I'm 22 in some way. 2020 We know its vision, you know, clear vision. Oh, yeah. Nice. 20 election is going to clarify and crystallize a lot of

things. We're seeing size being drawn, we've seen things being brought to the light. When you have this kind of money, people are going to be exposed. And I'm gonna be bored. Always for it. Of course, always for these two men had the same as views. They come from the same exact places. They have the same exact privilege as you see it. But you do this weird. A Jedi mind trick or however you want to look at it. Well, this guy is a racist to the core. But this

other guy can be accepted because he apologized. How does that work? Yeah, please tell me how to well, I'm trying to find where. Okay, so she's co authored books, Karen hunter with Al Sharpton. That says enough right there. Oh, yeah. She's tied in. Yeah. And I want to say this other thing. I want to make sure I understand the term meal you correctly. This is a small just a small aside. But I think I spotted one. Okay, between her. Stephen A Smith, a Charlemagne to God.

Okay, so Milio is your social environment. Fancy as French word for it. And you can detect millio by the way people dress the way people talk. Even certain acts. That's usually where Devora Can I pick it up is how people speak. Because the way they speak and know that know that. Stephen A Smith and a shaman gotta from the south. But they may not really know he still makes me from New York, Charlemagne to God from the south, but they have this unique way of talking.

And I know that I was like, she sounds like somebody but just just pay attention to it next time you hear, okay? Well, cuz I think they run in the same circle as well. But let's just listen to Problem three. But I had, I had a meeting today with a person who's not black, and we're talking about loans and this and that, and we're going over my finances. And I said, Yeah, I had this loan, you know, subprime loan, even though I had great credit, a great job and

everything. She was like why? I said, because the banks were predatory towards black people. And I said, You didn't hurt if I hadn't heard of that. And so then we went through another thing. I said, Yeah, I had another loan too. And it I could see her catch her breath. Like, just because you're black. You got to battle. I said, Yes. Yeah. Isn't it amazing? We're

not in the streets and burning stuff down. Like, isn't it amazing that we're we're relatively well adjusted, considering all of the obstacles and I said, if I didn't have anything to compare it to, I wouldn't know that this was targeting. And if if the Wells Fargo thing in the in the housing bubble hadn't happened, we wouldn't have known that there was a willful targeting of black people. But what did that do that impacted the wealth of black people for centuries?

Yeah, probably, that created a wealth gap that's going to take 200 plus years to close, because people excuse me, financial institutions willfully came after black people and gave them bad loans. I said I had a piggyback loan on a house that I didn't have shouldn't have had a piggyback loan. And I talked to a bunch of my black friends and they all had pity. Yeah. Why? I'm not sure I agree with what she's saying here. Saying you have a subprime loan is not a loan that is targeted towards

anybody except people who are stupid and or are lying. And that's what happened. So it was predatory that people said, you can't afford this, but I'm gonna give it to you anyway. I put a lot of that on the people taking the loan. I agree with you, but In two things, one, she was talking about stop and frisk. This is from the same clip at the stop of free shs. And she does is weird pivot. I don't know if it's the case of the truth wanting to come out. But she

starts talking about subprime loans. And I'm like, what? How did her brain make that connection to go from stopping free to? to subprime loans? I do agree with that. We've got to find out. Oh, well, but it's amazing that I agree with you. Well, hold on, hold on, let me back up for a second, she starts to clip off by saying I was had a meeting with a white person. Right, which immediately it was like, okay, so I use it in some kind of boundary, I'm not quite sure. But I guess it was a

financial person. And by the way, going over numbers, the way she twisted this is that the white people took advantage of the black people by screwing up the economy with loans and never should have given anybody and a lot of white people who got those loans, probably more than black people. But somehow that to me was a very racially charged the thing she was saying. And I can agree with her premise. And the problem is, she's conflating two things. Yes. One

One, a lot of people, smart people, because she's smart. She took a bad loan out herself. And a lot of her smart friends did yeah, they took out loans they couldn't afford. But there is systematic. Discrimination in the banking process. And I'm going to prove that later, but I'm sure that she flakes, these two things and properly, and it probably conflicts them may serve an argument invalid, certainly weakens. Yeah, that's

the problem. It makes it it makes it you know, if you want to talk about, but I'm gonna explain to you why I think her brain did that weird pivot with Bloomberg, Barclays minorities for the 2008 market crash of all the things you could be wrong about being wrong about the Iraq war is probably the most important. But I think maybe a second is being fundamentally wrong about how we

ended up in the worst economic collapse of our lifetimes. And Mike Bloomberg, who he's wrong, watch some reference to the elements that led to where we are today. Could you go a little bit deeper? And tell us from your perspective, how did we get here? What are the root causes, you can go back, I would say it probably all started back when there was a lot of pressure on banks to make loans to everyone.

Redlining, if you remember, was the term where banks took Whole neighborhoods and said, people in these neighborhoods are poor, they're not going to be able to pay off their mortgages, tell them what your salesmen don't go into those areas. And then Congress got involved as local elected officials as well and said, Oh, that's not fair, these people should be able to get credit. And once you started pushing in that direction, banks started making more and more loans, where the credit of the

person buying the house wasn't as good as you would like. Now, it's not so bad, when the market for houses keeps going up. Because the nice thing about making a mortgage loan is it's very secure. After all, if the, if the borrower defaults, you simply sell the house and you have something that's worth more than the value of the mortgage. And that assumes that real estate prices never go down. And we just discovered that they

could get some very interesting logic here. Redlining, which, of course, is a talking point, is generally seen to be as very,

very bad and racist. In this case, the redlining in fact, was protecting these, these neighborhoods from predatory bank lending, but as Bloomberg himself said, but then the local officials, I would presume that his administration got in and said, No, no, no, no, no, no, no, you gotta Hey, you can't it's racist to just screw YT that let's get everybody and that's the thing they only open it up when it has something toxic to sell to the red lock community, but red line and

we're gonna get to the history of redlining because it is it goes deep. Yeah, a lot of people don't really know what the hell they're talking about with redlining. But the fact that he takes this and those that term around, as you know, like you say, it was keeping it was a good thing. And that's why I say her brain made that weird jump, you're talking about Bloomberg, stop, freeze, and then you do this weird pivot

into predatory lending. So I believe she knew about this. I'm just speculating This is 100% speculation, but just how did you borrow Hey, make that weird. I was having a conversation with somebody about money without my stomach freeze? Well, you're in the middle, yo. And there you go. You're in the middle. You have white rich people, I guess. So. So that's, well, we know blue is the same meal you, oh, we know who shot man, the guy runs with Yeah, with, with white hedge fund guys.

Exactly. I'm just saying, maybe, you know, they run the same circles. But let's listen to market crash, too. So while there was like systemic racism in how loans were given out who was given loans, who had access to areas to buy houses, interest rates, all that, and there was an effort to try to solve that just a little bit. And look at what you get when you solve that you crash the economy yet dummies? That was what he offered up. It wasn't like they gave that as a theory.

And he talked about it for a bit. That was his core response on why did the economy fall apart? He just did a pro redlining talk there. That's unbelievable. 2008 Yeah, that wasn't like 1978 and corn pump would come into the pool. 2008 redlining is specifically on it is a racist policy. That's like saying while I mean, there's a value in this, like literally defending segregation, literally, and say, Oh, we're gonna deny people, loads of certain areas because

they're black. And he's saying, Well, that was a good old days. And when we stopped systematically discriminating against blacks and Latinos, it was those blacks and Latinos being irresponsible that caused the collapse. Wow, okay, look, other than being deeply, deeply immoral, it's also deeply, deeply wrong. So and there's a good reason why Bloomberg is wrong on purpose. Oh, on purpose, okay. Yes, we're gonna find out why he's wrong on purpose. But

let's, let's unpack some of the things that he said. This is 2008. When Bloomberg is talking. You're they're unaware that redlining is seen to be as a bad thing to discuss, this goes back to the 60s, man, this is a guy is not on this earth. Right. I think you'll even back to the 40s, if I'm not mistaken with the New Deal. The New Deal? You're right, you're right. And that's why you had to have the equal was equal housing lenders or whatever it is. That that was a correction of the

redlining. And these are real historical facts. And we're gonna say, yeah, yeah, it was a good thing. The other thing, this go to show, we get blamed for everything, with 30% of the population probably Damn, you ruined everything of the GDP. And it's like, oh, yeah, we start giving black people loans. That's the Hallmark. Now we get blood. You can't make this stuff up. That is one of the most I mean, that's, that's pretty egregious what he was saying, there. That's that, man. Okay,

we didn't design anything. We didn't pass any bills. We didn't lose any regulations. Yeah. And, and I know people out there saying, Well, why would you take a loan? You know, you can't pay for where if the game is, you know, beginning on this low interest rate, and the house goes up? Interest rate goes up? Yes. Flipping? Yeah. I mean, they have TV shows about this. Your white people do it all the time. I don't understand what, when, when suppressed group of people are given opportunity.

And I say that we were allowed, because due to how red line work? Look, I'm I'm gonna pause right there. Let's just get into crash. Three. Why? Because they had removed protections on leverage. So the banks could make wild bed sometimes put $1 down, but make $100 bed. So when you lose the dollar, all of a sudden, you're not losing $1 You're losing $100 Which you don't have in the

bank. And you did that by betting on these collateralized debt obligations and, and the and the derivative packages, et cetera. So I tell you all of that, because there is a real answer as to why we had the collapse. And and the bankers first pumped all that out into the market. Why? Because they were like making money off of it. Like oh, go by, oh, we got a great mortgage for you. They're handing them out like candy, right? Oh, they would say oftentimes, you don't even have

to worry about filling it out. But it was irresponsible blacks and Latinos who are at fault. No, the bankers told them. I don't care if you have a job, I don't care if you fill out the information a lot of times, because we're not like the money we make on this mortgage, it's good and fine, but we're making the real money on the derivative bet. Okay, so just go, go, go go. And you're handing him out handing him out. Meanwhile, the

entire time they're making commission. And they're collecting all of that, and they took it home and bonuses and giant, giant bonuses on those giant giant beds. Is that chunk chunk from Young Turks? Yeah. Good explanation, as I think it did that well.

So now we understand why, or how the loans were made, and who was making the loans and how they've been why the banks push, giving loans to people that they know, because you look at it from both sides, the coin one, I'm a person, if a person comes to me and I have bad credit and wants to borrow $100, I'm gonna say no, man, I'm not gonna give you that hurt at all, because not likelihood to get back. So not only can put it on the ball, but

also the lender because you got to protect your investment. But if you're making short term gains off of just the action of loaning the money, they're self serving, of course. So I just want to point that out. So now, to be fair, to be unbiased as we are here on this podcast. Trump had his own issues with housing discrimination, 14,000 apartments and 39 different buildings, all mostly

white tenants. That is until the Department of Justice took notice in 1973 and slammed Donald Trump and his father Fred Trump with a lawsuit. Trump management was charged with discriminating against African Americans and breaking federal law. Donald Trump then just 27 was president of the company. The Department of Justice accused the Trump's of violating the Fair Housing Act arguing they were turning away renters

based on race and color who tipped them off. local activists so called testers posing as potential renters at Trump's buildings, mainly in Brooklyn and Queens. Elise Gould Weber was a lawyer for the DOJ Fair Housing section at the time, and was called on to handle the Trump case, when the black testers came, they were shocked. They they may have been shown apartments are told nothing was available. Whereas when the white testers came, yes, there were things

that were available, that would be the norm. And if the Trumps did rent to a black person gold, whoever recalls, they would do so only at one building in Brooklyn, reserving the other buildings for white tenants that the white people would live in Trump village and the people of color would live in Flatbush, and according to the Justice Department, they even had a secret coding system to do it a racial code. Here's how sounds pretty racist to me.

So, and this was brought up all throughout 2015 2016 Oh, yeah. Trump. I even had a clip and it was unclimbable. But Rachel Maddow, she was chasing down this dude who used to work for Fred Trump. And she was like, Fred Trump used the N word when talking about running to black people, and Donald Trump was in the room. So I mean, they went, you know, it's no stone unturned. You know, what's interesting is, of course, you know, doing what I

do. I of course, I know of this issue, have discussed it on no agenda. I don't think I've ever heard that detail about the the testers. I think that's the first I've heard of it. They had testers, and then they had this super sophisticated way of identifying black renters. Here's how some of the applications were marked with the C, which we learned that it meant colored. The prospective tenants who had come in or noted to be colored.

Yes, you heard her right. The Department of Justice alleged application submitted by prospective African American renters were designated with a secret code such as C for colored to indicate a black person was looking to rent. In true Trump fashion Donald Trump hit back calling the government's accusations absolutely ridiculous and telling the court I have never nor has anyone in my organization ever, to the best of my knowledge, discriminated

or shown bias in the renting of our apartments. Trump's lawyer said the government's suit failed to give names addresses or specific incidences of discrimination, claiming the lawsuit caused substantial damage to their business and reputation. Trump took the most unusual step of suing the Justice Department for defamation, seeking $100 million in damages, but that countersue was tossed out by the judge.

Even so the Trump family maintained they never discriminated based on color, but were instead trying to avoid renting to people on welfare. Two years later, in 1975, Trump and his father settled the case agreeing not to discriminate against anyone. They also promised to advertise in publications aimed at minorities, familiarize themselves with the details of the Fair Housing Act and notify

civil rights groups of apartment vacancies. The Department of Justice claimed victory, but the Trump's never admitted any wrongdoing, reportedly noting the settlement was in no way an admission of a violation. So this is why I met. I don't agree with discrimination. But at least I know when I'm dealing with this, here's my problem.

People want to deal with people that's gonna lie to him. If I know where you stand, and I know how to deal with you, and that's why I said, for my group of people, we need to stand back and see who has something tangible for us because the equal amount you said, on both sides, and whoever had the most part to provide of as far as standard with stamps now it's 10. Tangible standpoint, then we we support I'm when I vote, and if nothing comes, then we don't vote, because it means it means

two sides of the same coin. But the people that are supposed to be our leaders will put on this shout dog and pony show, to make it seem like there's a difference and they really not. Right, right. Okay. When you say when you say leaders that that goes down the line. I mean, it's not just president, but that's local. Clearly, it's local, quote unquote, officials and, and Al Sharpton is to yeah, all of me when I say leader, and Tom. The clergy, the media, the

politicians, all of them. They're even not I'm not only talking about black hair either. So we have Kerr Hunter. We have Bloomberg. May not Bloomberg, excuse me, young Turks. If Bloomberg happens to be the candidate for Democrats, they're still going to carry the water. Sure. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, this is you're looking at the at the differences here, between how how each racial episode for each of the candidates is handled by the media.

Right. So you're not we're not this is a litmus test. And then the standard is not the same, right? If the standard is a god support, stop and frisk, he's a no, he's a hard No. Then both of them had to be a hard no. Right? Is no unfair housing practices, supporting a redlining or housing discrimination? If that's it? They participate in that it's a hard No, it needs to be a hard no for both. But when I'm doing it, it's going to show you how when you juxtapose these two people against each other,

you see the hypocrisy. I'm here to point out the hypocrisy. And also validate the claims of redlining and stop and frisk because they are real. But people you say, you know, some people say, Oh, no, it's a piggy ranch nation, or that was long in the past. But I would like to take a short pause here. We lost one of our historical celebrities Miss Jeanette Dubois, and she played willona on Good Times. I know people were saying, How, what's the connection with that? I mean,

it's kind of hard, right? Well, she wrote a popular song for one, a popular show the Jeffersons. I talked to my mom in New York last time. I think I blew it. I think I just I don't know if I can do what I told Norman I could do. She said, always had said this to me. You can do it. I said, but I don't know what to write about. She said what is your what was your dream or your life? My dream was to get my mother from working. Put it retire by a car Virgos move away

from Brooklyn ghetto. Ferris Jeep, Leesburg well lived. That was a dream. See you living in Brooklyn yet? The east side west side. I want to do to the east. I got the idea. I want to move to the east. And I still wish on one of these days, ma'am. I'm gonna I'm gonna make it. I'm gonna do this. I'm going to do that and then do this. This was this is what everybody's always saying to me since you were a little girl. Even when you

stuttered. You said. I said I was going Make a difference. I was gonna change your life, I was gonna move you out of here. Write that. wrote that brought it in. And I looked at it and he said, Who told you about the story? Because no one told me about stories. How do you know these things that you move into the Sidon? And all this stuff about penthouse blah, blah, blah. And I said, Well, that's personal. I said, but that's the song. That's the promise. I kept saying it's the promise.

Limit. And she wrote the song. Yeah, good. Yeah. Jefferson is moving on. Oh, I didn't know. I didn't know she wrote that. And I didn't. That's why I brought to the show, one to show her respect, and rest and peace. But to she didn't even know what the show was gonna be about. And not a reason why I brought this up. And I find interesting is she didn't know what the show was going to be about. But it's so common, shared, moving out of

this Oh, press area to something better. This is a shared notion, especially ownership. And then now when you ask, why would people take a subprime loan? Why would people take a you know, something that they don't even understand, because it's one of you inside baseball time, is one of few things that you can do as a black person and feel like you really made it. One, graduate high school to graduate college or any higher and higher learning. Three on your own business and four is buying a

home. And that's where you really feel the American dream. Interesting that owning you're owning your own businesses in that list. I'm not sure that owning your own business is a white thing in America as on the on the top four. Because it's in the pit, you feel like, Oh, I'm independent. And the same thing with home ownership. I own it. It's mine, you know, this is my, you know, it goes back really

psychological. I think back to back, you know, the founding fathers and where you couldn't even vote unless you were a land owner, right. Subconsciously is you know, so I wanted to share her story because she wrote the song from a place of, I'm with mom, I'm gonna take you out this, these red zones. Yeah, I'm gonna take God these red zones, I'm gonna move you know, moving on up. And I would just like to share for her and her life, her song one more time.

With that forever moving special tribute here on more facts with Adam curry for Black History Month, bonus day, Jana Dubois and moving on up. And I'm glad you did that Mo. And I'm glad you didn't even know this. I didn't know that she wrote the song. I know that she passed away February 17. Yep, should be shot should be celebrated. And I think that's an appropriate celebration of her. We're gonna take a quick little break here.

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do a little history lesson on redlining. We know we always have to go back to understand what the past and how it impacts the future. But first, I found it a little funny bit by the route on red Lonnie, are you looking for a new neighborhood to live in? Then come on down to redlining Realty sanctioned by the US government. There's the breast infrastructure, underfunded school. No white people. They're all in the suburbs. Heck, we'll

even throw in freeze you know, doesn't that sound nice? Call redlining Realty today, and we'll get you a house built on the most American foundation of all racism. Thanks route. Yeah, so you know the route. But I found this show called Adam, Adam Ruins Everything. Oh, true TV. Yes. Not you, Adam. Well, the other Adam Yeah. And he lays out the disturbing history of the suburbs. It's not so white here look. Bad example. Ignore sweater dog

people. A tote bag full of kale. You're killing me, lady. Okay, maybe this neighborhood is mostly to completely to insufferably white. But that that's just the way things are here. It doesn't mean we're racist. I'm sure you're not wrong. But the fact that so many suburbs are mostly white is no accident. It's the result of decades of racist federal policy that affect us to this day. Look. What the heck kind of game is this? It's settlers of the suburbs, redlining edition. Up Green, run

your red. All right, red, just like the name looks like I've got the advantage. No, you don't see in the 1930s. As part of the New Deal, F er created loan programs to help Americans finance their homes. But to decide who got those loans. The government created color coded maps in which green neighborhoods were good and red neighborhoods were bad. This practice became known as redlining. Was this the creation of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac as well?

I'm not sure. All right. Maybe I'm thinking I think it may have been a little lighter with I want to say LBJ, I want to say oh, yeah, okay. Well, I'll look it up. Look it up. But as you heard this deal with government practices, yes. And need you as you heard. People say, Democrats say FDR was one of our greatest presidents. How you gave us what we found out to be public housing, which pushed and previous show we talked about the no man house rule, right. And public housing

projects. And this is the other thing that we got out the New Deal, all redlining, so I'm not quite sure how that helped. But it helped the white people as we're going to hear suburbs to because of these policies. If you live in Green neighborhoods, it was super easy to get a home loan and buy property. For folks in the red areas, no loans were available. I can barely afford rent with this. There's no fair the red areas are screwed. Yeah, they were. And you know why some areas were designated

as red? No, but I can guess those were the neighborhoods where African Americans and other minorities lived. And redlining systematically prevented them from getting home loans. Wow. I know what I'll do. Just take my little guy and put him in the green neighborhood.

Sorry, that's against the rules. Early suburb developers like William Levitt instituted explicitly racist policies, levied townhomes must not be used or occupied by any person other than members of the Caucasian race, and the federal government itself, encourage developers to discriminate developers, I want you to exclude non whites. The result of these policies is that from 1934 through 1968, a whopping 98% of home loans were given to white families.

Okay, this is not fair. I did not get to pick what color I was when I started. Yeah, no one does. What the justification the way I understand it, and that was the what is now what is it? What what the Ben Carson HUD, I guess Housing Urban? Yes. Federal Housing Administration. They the redlining was justified, because if black people moved into the white people, neighborhoods, it would decrease the value of their homes. That's not racist. True, all.

True. And so we're going to it was a couple of things. It's starting to tie in to this episode. white flight, as we talked about on a previous episode, yep. white flight was driven out of if you move into my neighborhood, you make the property value go down. Yeah. So that's why they moved before they got stuck with the depreciating asset. Yeah. Which would have put them basically what happened in the subprime lending scandal. You bought a house for more than it was worth

after the after the fact? Yep. So we have, we have white flight. And then we have another thing. The integration that we talked about with the color purple, not color, purple, excuse me, raising his son. That was the whole premise behind that the family moving into the white neighborhood. Now, I've always been against of force integration. So I'm all for

separate but equal. Why can't we just allow the funds to flow into the quote unquote, red areas, that way you can upgrade your property, bring value, and then it was you could create your own communities. So you can see how this this is kind of what the justification for people wanting to move move into white neighborhoods. But it was all fine. It was all a force by

federal law. Yes. So I think we left off at two. So suburbs three, and this advantage compounded over time, the families in the green or white neighborhoods were able to purchase homes and accrue wealth. I can sell my house and buy a bigger one. Whereas the people in the red neighborhoods got none of those opportunities. I can't afford property I'm behind on my electric bill. In the green neighborhoods, the influx of new

wealth attracted new businesses. Oh, yeah. And again, a grocery which cause property values to go up, which meant white families could sell their homes and send their kids to college. So fast passing down their wealth and advantages to future generations. Meanwhile, the red neighborhoods had far less ability to build wealth, and many remain trapped in poverty. This game is rigged. Yeah, it was. That's why laws were eventually passed that made most of these discriminatory

practices. Illegal. Great. Finally, I can move. I don't have enough money. Exactly. Without wealth. Families in the red neighborhoods couldn't afford to move up keeping these communities separated by race today. 70 years after Levittown was created it's still less than 1% Black I may be dead but the effect of my racism lives on. Yes, some local and this may be now the thing about this may be the same everywhere. The redlining was accentuated in

Austin, we have I 30 Five. And that was the line right there. Eastside Westside, you and I live on the east side, I live in the red line district. And but then when, when I when I moved when I'm moving on down, I'm called the gentle fire can't win, you can't you can't win. Oh, and that was very popular for them to use interstates as I said before it Durham freeway ran through Hayti, Durham, North Carolina, that district destroyed that community. So love it. I think it was leaving

town to the town. I have a I have a couple, a black couple that were war. husband was a World War Two vet. And I just want to give a little color to the story and human touch to the story of redlining. We came to Levittown. And we found the model house. And we walked in and we looked around. And, of course, in the eyes of a young man who was raised in the ghetto, so to speak. It was an interesting experience, interesting lifestyle, seeing all the new modern conveniences very fascinating.

Eugene Burnett came home with almost a million other black T eyes. They had fought for the country in segregated ranks. They returned hoping for equality and the American dream. For many, that dream was a new home for little money down. And some of the easiest credit terms in history. I went up to the salesman, were interested in your home interested in buying one and what is the procedure? Is there an application to be filled out? So of course, he looked at me

looked around and he said to me says Listen, it's not me. But the onus of this development have not as yet decided to sell these homes to negros. It was as though it wasn't really you can't imagine. wait for someone to come out and actually tell you that they can sell to you you know, I was really on a man look at this house. Can you imagine having this and then for them to tell me because of the color of my skin? I can't be a part of it.

Yeah, this this is well known story about World War Two vet. Lemon Lemon, lemon tree live in Levittown was built with I think probably some money as well, from the veteran, the VA. I mean, the whole idea of this place was for veterans to be able to come back from war get their families going. And started life as as people who served the country deserve and finally had their piece of the pie. I didn't know you're such a singer mo that's the point. That's all we want. Is our piece of the pie.

Now does some of the problems between black and Jewish stemmed from this in the Levites were were Jewish? Yes. And well and I'm wondering if this if Well, I'm sure it didn't help any of

the any of the relations between these groups. But I wonder if part of the Genesis it went and it went on then and it goes on now even today you've seen the stories in New Jersey what happens is when the great migration so when blacks first move north and to the slums there they were previously occupied by other ethnic groups non white to me because that was before everybody was not meant to white so you had these other use the immigrant groups that the blacks were rent from?

Okay, who do you remember just out of curiosity, who would who would that be? What are their immigrant immigrant groups would that be Jewish mostly Jewish? Mostly Jew especially in Detroit in places

like that? Yeah. So they would they will move up and then we will fit backfield their community that they left behind got it, but they would explore it and we talked about this on a previous show, they will explore it through the way they ran it and even they will say okay, I'm gonna sell you the house, but if you miss one payment, you lose all your equity, right? things of this nature. So yes, that is they contribute to the the

Tension between those two groups. So, but yeah, I mean, just so I just want to let this couple finish up with their story. The FHA underwriters warned that the presence of even one or two non white families could undermine real estate values in the new suburbs. These government guidelines were widely adopted by private industry. Race had long played a

role in local real estate practices. Starting in the 1930s, government officials institutionalized the national appraisal system where race was as much a factor in Real Estate Assessment as the condition of the property. You using this scheme, federal investigators evaluated 239 cities across the country for financial risk. So that those communities that were all white, suburban and far away from minority areas, they received the highest rating, and

that was the color green. Those communities that were all minority or in the process of changing, they got the lowest rating and the color red and they were red line. As a consequence, most of the mortgages went to suburban eyes in America. And it's suburbanized. It racially so this is what this is what contributed to the racial wealth

gap. Okay, and as you I want to point something out here. When you think about images of racist, white supremacist is certainly some country guy, poor guy in Alabama, West Virginia, you know, Mississippi, but this is the real, right. So when we talk about why super this is what I'm talking about, this is the fhsaa you get to black people in your neighborhood. Now your your property value is going to plummet. In fact, I'll take it one step further. Yes, this this was the

US government. But it really was kowtow into Wall Street. That's really what it was about. Oh, wait a minute. Wait a minute. What do we know that works on Wall Street? Bloomberg, uh huh. And that's why redlining read all redlining, you know, would have protected us from the subprime lending, you know, if we, if I just had my way, but Well, well, well, well, well stop. No stops. So Uber is actually so racist. He's, he's like, 1945. Racist? Yes, he's institutional racism.

He's the OG that's good. Um, Trump is just a wannabe compared to this. So just think about it. Now we're starting to see these two things. And where they converge it you have red lining, which keeps them inside their zones. And then you send in the stop and frisk to police them in their zones. This is all institutional right. This is when we say institutional racism. That's is what was it? Yeah. This completely completely sanctioned by the government.

And it's pretty damn recent, as if it's never gone away. Well, some people will tell you that red line and did go away, but they're still modern day rehmani. It's been 10 years since the economic recession, and credit has slowly returned for most Americans. By 2016. The number of conventional mortgages had risen 95% Since the housing bust, and yet some Americans are still being left behind. The gap between white and black ownership is wider now than it

was in 1960. Tonight, the first of a two part series results of a year long investigation from reveal a program produced by the Center for Investigative Reporting, as reveals Aaron glance reports, black and Latino homebuyers in some cities seem to have a harder time getting a home mortgage. Brooklyn native Rochelle frugal moved to Philadelphia in 2015, hoping to buy a home here as like, I'm gonna try this thing. You know, I've got a lot of gumption.

She made a good income as a computer programmer, and had enough for a downpayment, or potential lender Philadelphia mortgage advisors was encouraging at first, but the lender worried her income could be unstable. since she was a contractor, so for rule suggested her mother cosign because my mom is a retired school teacher specifically, she lives in New York City for 35 years, her pension is great.

But for rule was told that wasn't enough to offset her mother's student loan debt from a PhD. I got shut down, left and right. She wanted to apply for this loan. She was a contract worker, but made very good income. But initially, Mom co signed for it, which had a great pension, but it still wasn't enough. So it

makes you wonder, is this racially motivated? Well, let's find out and clip to after Rochelle ferrule began to wonder if race factored in her loan denial, she decided to use a new strategy. In order to be considered a good applicant. I needed to have a white person or someone who's white adjacent vouch for me. This time, she asked her girlfriend, Hanukkah friends, who is half white and half Japanese to apply with her friends was working part time at a grocery store. Wonderful, most

recent bi weekly paychecks was $162. And at the time, your financial situation was unstable. Oh, yeah, that's terrible. Oh, that was so bad. It was terrible. I was borrowing money for my sister was helping my health insurance at one point because I didn't have enough money to pay it. But for Santander Bank, the final lender for rural tried, none of that seemed to matter. France had a good credit score.

And when she came on board, it all went smoothly. Even though France couldn't provide proof of a stable work history. They were like we need to yours. And I was just like, I can't give that to you. And they're like, alright, we'll move forward. Yeah. Okay. All right. So does she have on record they actually say you need to have a white person that that was written requirement. Know, what she did was it was experiment. But he said, let me

use a white or white adjacent person, right. When you have white person, well, there was some tissue in the door, there was something else in there. And I'll just take that and run with it to modern day slavery, not necessarily color related. She had a good credit score. This has been one of my pet peeves. Yes. And you know that to Credit Karma was just purchased for $7 billion. Why is it important, because it is a

slave control mechanism. It's not even the official credit score as handed out by the two official credit agencies, it's a credit score by the bank or a couple of banks. And you know, there's some consortiums that kind of made up, but what they really want is they want to have access to your bank account, which you give them when you sign up for these apps, you actually give them your password, your username, your login, token, do whatever they want, see, whatever you do, and

then even under the guise of, we're going to help you. They control you. Okay, so Well, if you pay your utilities bill, at the first of the month, your credit score is gonna go up. It is total slave control. And as a running theme on this show, they always start with us. Well, hello, hey, thanks. Thanks. You know, I had to marry a white woman to get enough credit to buy a house dammit. It's all your fault. And it only takes half a white woman because her girlfriend was

half white and half. All you got to do is be half halfway. And she and I want to talk about this little this little term. White adjacent. Yeah. Because that was have you heard this term before? No, no, I don't think so. Okay, why adjacent is a person who is technically a minority, but has access to utilize and sometimes benefit from white privilege. You mean like Drake, so? Oprah are gay? Okay. Yeah. That's a better example. I got it. Yes. In

the proximity, but not we see this still goes on today. The Emmys. Stop? No. And it's like you said it's all about data points. And I mean, iron data points they had back in the day was your color your skin like, oh, well, they come from that red zone. And he got black skin. So that's it. No, that's the hard. No. It's so interesting. And this is a good lesson. And it's really important. This show is so important. Beyond the racial connotation, because this was one data wasn't really

available. This is when all this started the data was you live in this area. This is the color of your skin. There wasn't much else data, much, much other data. Now there's all of this data and believe me these algos are super racist, super racist, and they're determining how much sentencing you get in the criminal justice system. How much you can borrow for your house in oftentimes if you're appropriate for a certain job. Bob, and it's baked in it is it is systemic racism. I don't say

racism, not white supremacy. It built into today's technology. Well, like you said, this comes from the bankers and who are the bankers? Who are the bankers? Well, I can answer that many. Well, we like I said, we use this yes, that we use various terms, the elite, the true white supremecy. was, as our friend would say,

Uh huh. So I mean, it comes from the top down. Yes. And that's why I said, it's fascinating that we're starting to see billionaires, you know, run for president and all this truth is starting to be unveiled. But with that said, no matter how much truth people see, it doesn't matter to them. So we going back to the Kara Hunter show, and she had a guest on

Laurie Daniel favors. And Laurie Daniel favors is an intern for the executive director and General Counsel at the Law Center on social justice activist attorney, and she's on a Karen, she's a contributor to the Karen Hunter show. So she's gonna, this is almost a two minute rant. I just want to let her run. I didn't want to clip it. I want to let her run because no matter how many data points and if people see that these two people are like, listen to this cognitive

dissidence that that she displays. Bloomberg is responsible not just for stop and frisk furthering it, systematizing it, glorifying it, defending it up until last year

when he decided he was going to run. But he was surrounded by intellectuals, black activists, activists of color up across the entire spectrum who outlined for him the problems New York City Lawyers Association NYCLU the data, the statistics, he had facts, he had information, and he was committed to a racist policy that jailed black people arrested black people stop and frisk black 32 students, Bushwick, 3232 students who were on their way to a funeral had permission from their principals

had letters from their parents accosted by the cops are held for 36 hours had to go to trial had to get in my husband is beat up in court by court officers at their defense Trump because the way in which police and court officers were militarized against black and brown communities and you expect us to just eat that he's got money, so he's gonna be the best candidate

gentrification. Bedford Stuyvesant, Crown Heights, East New York, Flatbush, Harlem did the Bronx, black people driven out of this city, right under policies that favored wealthy white people and developers, we cannot even sustain our communities right now. Education, he undermined the ability for us to have culturally competent education. You want me to sit because he can be Trump. So Trump gonna He's gonna do what he do. Bloomberg gonna do what he

doing? Yeah, he might win. But guess what, all y'all getting arrested. All y'all getting stopped in prison. He implements the same policies across the country that he further and support in the state of New York. Give me a break. We can do better than this. And I'm sorry, I gotta agree with Meghan McCain. But now I'm upset. I'm sorry. I didn't mean to add that.

If he's the nominee, are you gonna vote for him? I don't think he should be the nominee if he's the nominee, because that's a strong possibility if he's the nominee, knowing. And so having said everything that I just said, because I'm aware about how the politics and the system in this country works. Yes, I will have to vote for him was watch. After that rant. There you have, oh, my goodness. But I just want to understand that just want to understand the justification makes sure I

understand this. So just go back to that one question. He's the nominee, are you going to vote for him? I don't think he should be the nominee if he's the nominee, because that's a strong possibility if he's the nominee, knowing. And so having said everything that I just said, because I'm aware about how the politics and the system in this country works. Yes, I will have to vote for him. Wait a minute, I don't understand. She just railed about the system and the politics. As he says, Knowing

how the system and the politics in this country works. He has to vote for him. You explain it to me, because I don't I don't understand. But this is this is what we get. Now, does everybody see these? Why are these people cannot be trusted. This is the reason for value for value. This is why you need to have the independent media. You wouldn't have the Bloomberg tape dug up without a podcaster you won't have this conversation we haven't without

podcast and independent media. And one of those parts of the independent media is what is called the New Black Media, because they're holding people like this the task that you get out here and give a one minute and 58 second rant of everything wrong with Michael Bloomberg. and you put him against another so called races and you will make a choice instead of saying, You know what? I abstain? Well, no, I'm not.

Well, so there's a number of things. One, this should this show, not just this episode, but this is a good one should be played in schools across America, children's to have to listen to the show, of course your school won't do that. So give it to your kids. And if you're really offended by some of the naughty words we use, you can always take them out. It is especially beautiful to learn this during and of course, I've learned more than most people casually dropping in on the

podcast. But during Black History Month, the bonus day, no less. Black people of America, you got some problem with the black people of America too. We got to clean house. Yes, we have to clean we have to clean house, it's lamp people gotta go. It's ramping from the top. It's the top 10% And the bottom 10%. And this is what I'm saying. The top 10 the top 10%. They highly sit by. And they only do what they're told by their pay, you know who

controlled them? We got to understand what Bula is again, that's the that's the adviser to the king. So even heard, she laid out everything. But you know what, I'm still gonna vote for this, that same thing I say is the problem. How does that work? That that was the baffling part to me. I loved her rant, her rant was fantastic. Except for the last minute, she just blew

it all up. It's like, what are you, but because Trump is going to continue that, and you're gonna vote for the guy who actually was doing it. And these people don't bring us any solutions. They're the top 2% They're supposed to be the so called leaders. And then they allow us to be terrorized by the bottom 10% in our communities, because you damned if you do damned if you don't, right. It's like if I want policing in my community, I can't get quality

policing. Which is why I think we should police ourselves. I mean, that's a whole nother show for another whole nother day. But I explained that the bottom 10% the bottom 10% is the you know, when the crowd comes from the people that heard him saying I mean, it's not. That's the point, you have a large, quiet group of people in the middle. They are scared to call out the top. And they're scared to address the bottom. Right? So they stay silent and I won't stay silent. Yes, you can

do two things at once. We can call out the top by saying tell the bottom this is not acceptable behavior. I understand the source of it. I understand that communities were taught full of drugs and guns and you suppressed and not allowed to have funding and lending and everything else that all the other Americans are privileged. But that is no reason to terrorize your own people and your own community. No, you could do you could chew gum at the same time. I mean, come on. Yeah. Wow. But

but not to end on that low note. Always like to know, just for the psyche. One of the biggest scandals that were overlooked in this whole Trump and Bloomberg. fiasco Smackdown was covered by Mr. Jackson, which is a YouTuber, he only has 200 subscribers. So that goes to show you how I dig to find these clips. It's been dubbed mini Mike Bloomberg has been trying to hide his hide from the voters. However, thanks to video evidence, it will be impossible for Bloomberg to lay low, except

on a measuring tape. Here we see mini Mike standing on a box while giving a speech. So we know it's not beyond him to pull all sorts of tricks. Little Mike's favorite trick is to use a pair of lifts inside of his shoes, and he might have got away with it with the help of MSNBC. Here we see MSNBC put a box in front of the evidence, so we don't know what he's really wearing. Luckily, I was able to find this photo on the internet, which clearly shows the shoes he was wearing the night of the

disaster in the desert, the Democratic debates. Notice anything funny about the issues? I do. Look at those lifts there on the side pressing out on the shoe we can see he's got at least four or five inches of lift in there. Though the cameras use tricks to hide his lifts from viewers. There was no way of escaping the fact that at some point, Bloomberg would have to walk in those shoes.

I can't believe I missed this. Where are you You all kind of on top of it, because you caught where they had lowered the lecterns? Yeah, I saw that but I didn't know we had lifts in his shoes. He had a double boost. Oh my goodness. So it's lift gate is the total lift gate. Oh, man. I'm looking for a picture now. Now I want to see it though we'll post a video of this. Yeah, Mr. Jackson's video. Yeah, Mr. Jackson's video. Definitely want to see

that. Definitely. I want to put it in the show notes. That's too good, man. All right. Well, let's let Mr. Jackson finish up. Now. Let's take a look at how Mayor Bloomberg walks first. In regular time, I'll see if you can catch what's so strange about this walk. Interesting. Now let's take a look at it in slow motion. And I want you to take a very close look at his knee. More specifically where the knee bends Wow, look how long that leg is amazing, isn't it? Let's take a look again.

Very very big shins you have their Mayor Mike. Perhaps many Mike has the world's largest chance. But more likely he's wearing a pair of lifts the only person I know with a set of shins that log is Dawson. Dawson from Street Fighter the only video game I would recognize in the entire world we love Dawson. Oh my so he's basically on stilts is what we're saying here. It's not just it's stilts. Oh my goodness. Ah, that's the best Mo Yeah, we'll

put Mr. Jackson's video in the show notes. That is too funny. Well, that goes to show that Trump in this back and forth billionaire Smackdown he definitely has pinpointed Bloomberg real sensitive spot if you're going to that length. He's so frustrated over it. That's that's pretty incredible. That is amazing. Oh man. Mo thank you that made my day. Let's remember the show was about redlining racial practices, but I love this that was good man. Thank you that good laugh good laugh for a Saturday.

Yeah, doesn't take us out of here. So there you have it. They got to look to people that have similar views and two through two different lenses. Yeah, well, Mo Thank you very much for for bringing all of this to the show once again. And I will remind everybody that this work should be compensated in the value that you as an individual get out of it. So whatever that value is to you please send that to us in a monetary form go to Mo Mo facts.com or directly to our donation page at Mote fund

me.com. M OE fund me.com And as I always say, pay attention to everything and the truth will reveal itself. That is the truth and this is the song for many Mike I guess we'll talk to you talk to you next week while I talk to you that out of the blue Julia thank you again now because you think God can afford you you ever gone again you know you broke down last what happened? You man many poor girls when they tried to keep the stuff you're never gone again. get in return you have my God I'm Jack