26: Butter Biscuits

Yo mo facts with Adam curry for February 18 2020. This is episode number 26 I'm doing good. How are you? I am doing well, sir. It is Oh, before I forget my wife, Tina, the keeper. She said, Oh, what did you guys? What are you guys doing tonight? Can you just ask one question for me? All right. She wants to know, with all the money he spent and all the media exposure has Michael Bloomberg changed anywhere in the A das community's opinion. Only am a politician that can be bought.

So he's me. He's moved up to me on that scale. He's moved up. That's the bump. He has a bump. He's got the bump bump. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. Everything good man. Everything good where you are? Man, everything is well. How about yourself, sir? Yeah, fantastic. And I am ready to Well, I already know that this is a special show. And I'll mention this part right up front, we run on the value for value model, which means you listen to the show we do. Did it give you bring you any value if

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start thanking those on a regular basis. Because as producers, you deserve the thanks for that. But also, a number of you deserve a special credit as a producer, or as we like to say an executive producer or Associate Executive Producer, and we'll explain all that later. But first, we have to spin the couple of topics here. See we're gonna do Oh, I feel lucky tonight. And it is landing on luck. Luck pot luck. Should I know that so? Where'd that come from? I like it. It's

the potluck song. I don't know the Steven Universe. Ah, not for me what the show but I love the song. And it works for this show title. Excellent. Well, this is indeed the potluck show. So instead of one overarching theme we're going to take you through I think we have four different things to talk about today.

Yes. So as we're talking about four different topics today, the potluck shows pretty much just as explained to the people is we're going to clean up small topics that happened over time that we didn't that make a full show worth of material, but we want to talk about it. So we'll do these periodically. And so we can, you know, kick it around and see what we think about it. All right. All right. Topic number one. I got sound effects.

Alright, right. So if we're the hip hop fans out there, you probably noticed that the song intro song was Snoop Dogg lay low. And Snoop Dogg is actually laying low now. Yeah, after after we talked about him all of a sudden he was real quiet. I'm sure that that we set him straight. Well, not too quiet because he had to come out and make an official public apology 25 past the hour. Joining us now the host of MSNBC is politics nation and president of the National Action Network.

Reverend Al Sharpton. Great to have you with us rapper. Snoop Dogg is offering an apology to journalist Gayle King, following backlash over his comments appearing to Well, he did threaten the CBS This Morning anchor for asking questions about the late Kobe Bryant's 2003 rape case in an interview with WNBA star Lisa Leslie. Two wrongs don't make Norway So with that being said, Gil King probably tore you down by coming at you based off of emotions,

maybe an angry overreacted, sort of way different than that. I was raised way better than that. So I would like to apologize to you probably for the language that I use and calling you on your name and just being disrespect. I mean, for it to be like that I was just expressing myself to a friend that wasn't here to defend themselves. A lot of people look up to me, they appreciate me. So I want to fix this, okay. All right. All right. Hold on a second. Hold on a sec. I didn't

see any of this. So just to review, and I let's make sure I got it straight. The the issue that Snoop Dogg initially took with the Gayle King interview was not was Yes. About the question she asked. She asked how it was asked how she kind of dismissed the answer. But more importantly, the overarching issue that Gail and Oprah have been known to go after Black men and let White men slide on horrible guys like Charlie Rose,

Weinstein, etc. Then he does he does that kind of. He says, we know you will come and fee whatever it is, but it was clearly about hey, we know we figured out what you're doing you and Oprah. And then and then Susan Rice jumped in. Like like there's a whole army we can kill you. And then the apology came? Is that how i Is that the correct timeline? That's the correct timeline. But there are some segments missing out of the timeline. So first, we're going to start off with

the apology and Allah's apology. And then we're going to get into how the apology came about because we left off last show, and I really wanted to leave this story at last show. Yeah, but it got so just the representation of what happened and how he was made to brought to the carpet of made apologize, it was just too much to pass up because we're gonna see some very interesting happenings going on with this story.

And if I make an observation about this apology, so they intercut his voicemail, I guess that he left for Gail intercut that with his original Instagram video. No, that was on Instagram, but I think he was holding his phone funny or something. I don't know. Wow. In and Out cutting in now, I don't know if that was strategic by him or if he was just nervous at what but or high. He had a whole different tone. Yes, sure. Now, that was a voicemail that he left for Gayle King.

No, that was actually on Instagram. Pure on Instagram. Yeah, it sounds like Instagram. Chai got it. Okay, so there's no matter what the true winner is Mark Zuckerberg, as long as we all understand that. Yes, that's correct. Yeah. So where are we at now is he's made the apology. And now the Morning Joe. Crew, including the Reverend Al Sharpton. Yeah, that's gonna challenge him. It's always a giveaway, isn't it? Yeah,

he's gonna chime in on how they received it's his apology. Yeah, well, listen, I it was pretty straightforward apology and complete apology. I thought it was a complete apology. I know you have a slightly different take on it. But you know, I think I think we all screw up. We all mess up. And when we do, we need to step forward and apologize. And the part of the part of of that apology I mean, he said he overreacted. He apologized fully. He was being disrespectful. And he said he

needed to quote man up and apologize. He did. And I thought the best part of it was when he said that they needed to get together and talk privately which unsure at some point. They will though I'm sure this is still very, very raw for Gail. She's been through hell over the past week. And I know she has to be disillusioned by people that she thought were friends who've sat by and said absolutely nothing. I know she doesn't be

disillusioned. I know she has to be disillusioned by newspapers like the New York Times and others who claim to be such champions of of journalistic freedom and, and protecting journalists. They talked about protecting journalists worldwide, but they don't even Protect one down the street when her life is threatened. It's very strange this conspiracy of silence to protect and defend a black female journalist.

Oh yes. Conspiracy of Silence. Morning Joe. But he's also he's on a whole nother tangent and I I had another clip where they're just going off about oh, this is violence against the against a journalist and a loadout goggles carry all right hold on a second. I'll put him on let me let me get him here on the bottom there on Thank you, sir. I'm so jealous accepting of the apology. And, you know, he just knew had to man up. Yeah. What's that all about?

Words matter. Yeah, words always matter. So that was that didn't sit with me. Well, that sounds like something that someone told him to say. I would agree. And it seems like oh, you cow toweling to Gail is manning up. And what I find interesting is this. We're not talking about what originally this whole story is about. Now, they've pivoted from that, to snoop threatening Gail and Oprah. Yes. And that's exactly what we covered in the last

show. Because the guy that was speaking to her name, when one of the clips, the guy was saying, yeah, they need to get they need to get out in front of story and make themselves the victim. Oh, yeah, I know what you're talking about carrying Hunter carrying on the carry Hunter show clip. The gentleman that was with her. He He laid this out exactly how they played it out. They played made himself the victim. And now Snoop is on on on the defense. And he's running scared. Clear.

Let's see how, let's see how mica except his apology. Well, I don't think those folks are off the hook. Just because Snoop delivered this. They're not so called apology. I think it was an apology in some ways, but it wasn't in others. And here's why. First of all, is quite a turnaround. Okay, from what he put out there, and it took a week, which is problematic when you've done something wrong, you know it right away, and you get right out there and you do not give

any excuses for it. And his first line gave an excuse two wrongs don't make a right. Let me explain like, why that's problematic. He left Gail hanging in an area that's quite important to all of this, which will let the rep talk about two wrongs don't make a right. No, that's that's not okay. And that kind of undermines the entire apology. The other thing is, you have to wonder why it took a week. What what is it that made

him think for a week about this before coming out with this? And what he did when he tore Gail down and threatened her with a profanity laced tirade is he divided people, and he knew he was doing that he knew he was ginning up division. It's not a good not a good luck at all. So I think he's gonna need to do more. I think it's a good start. But a lot needs to happen before this really is quite frankly, in a place of peace. What exactly which people? Was he dividing according to Mica?

Black man from black women. Do you think that's I mean, I know that's what's going on. But do you think that that's what she meant? Or is this is brilliant actually, so we want to divide black men from black women so let's blame it on Snoop for doing it is that the idea? And you you see that group divided we got to make sure the ones we have on our sites they are side so we make jailed the victim misogynist Snoop is on this side. Anybody agrees with

Snoop is misogynist. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. And that's and that's the way it works. Now, I will say this, I have no problem with stupid apologizing for the words that he used. But my apology would have went more like yeah, Gail, I'm sorry for calling you a dog headed. Mo Can I can I just give you some advice if you ever position to apologize to a woman don't repeat what the what the infraction was in your apology and this time We're all doing this for a perfect approach to

doing this but purpose. Just in this situation. I'm sorry for calling you that term. And I will say the term. But that still is stillness and take away from the fact that you ignored Harvey Weinstein and I would have listed every name. This is if Snoop is about standing all his calls. And this is not pocketbook related now. But let me interject, Oh, y'all know where it's really leading. But let me interject. He was kind of chicken shit not to do that to

start with. He was talking in code. In fact, that was code that I didn't understand. He was talking in code. And unless instead, he could have said, Hey, Gail, why are you doing that to another to another black man? And you let the these white guys off the hook so easy. That would have made it a different conversation? And and actually would have skipped two weeks of incredible bull crap in my life. But this bull crap is good bull crap. No, it's great for the show. I mean, no, it's the highest

quality bull crap. Arguing with the entertainment value, I'm very good value. Yes. But even bigger than the entertainment value, a lot of things are being exposed. We're starting to see who's really pulling the chains here. Yeah. And to figure it out, let's get

into the last apology clip. And then we'll get there, it was important because it sets a cultural tone, that you do not have to be engaged in threats and misogyny, I think beyond gal and Snoop would concern me was the message he was sending to a lot of people that listen to snoop. And that impacted by it. And I think that they got a real education. And I hope this is a teaching moment that Snoop will used to say to them, it is not the manly thing to do to call women out their name, and to

threaten women and journalists for what they say. If he had said he felt it was inappropriate or harmful to him. The way she conducted the interview, whether you I agree with that or not, he had the right to say that. But to luminize her and to use massage in his church and to threaten her was my concern. And you know, someone stabbed me in the street just yesterday when I got off this show and said, I'm glad you stood up for Gail. I said, I didn't stand up for Gail, I

stood up for my daughters. I stood up for people everywhere to get me to stand up for young people all over this country and older people as well, that I've marched for that should not be called out their name. And we act like that. So Right. And I'm so happy that it was validated and supported by snoop. And just like we took a newborn, we all just give him his props and praise Him for standing up and hopefully use this as a teaching

moment of many of his fans. Get to man up means to really be a man and to be a man is to not disrespect women, bro I'm sorry. Yes. How many times it manhood being a man and up? Yeah. Yeah. You see what you see what we're doing here? And mica Did you hear me? Because tone? Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Hard. Tom was very chastising. And like a mother like, you know better than that. And I think Reverend Al picked up on that because and he ran. He was like, well, we have to, you know, forgive snoop. He has

to walk that back. Because the way it looked to me is like, wow, they got you out here. So they can say whatever they want to about snoop. And we're doing it in the presence of Reverend Al so it can't be taken a certain way. If you get worse, of course. So so he's more of a prop man than input. And the difference with every other time we see Reverend now being a prop is what he is a prop is a great process, the subject matter, just the subject matter. That's the only

thing. Gotcha. So we want to ask, how do we get here we left off last Tuesday, Wednesday. We live had made us see my apology. I'm kind of walking back what he said. But that wasn't good enough. Ms. NBC did an all out all encompassing attack or Snoop Dogg? Oh, I don't know. Wait a minute. Wait a minute. How did I miss this? I watch MSNBC. I miss it. I seriously Um, okay. Well, I don't know what their purpose was. I'm still

trying to figure it out. Now. I don't know if it was distraction because of all the messes going on the Democratic primary, that this is a great Yeah. Hello. Hello. Yes. No, not just a segment filler. This is perfect right now it's about the A das vote. We're in South Carolina, we're going to Nevada. You know, this is we have Biden saying he's got the the Obama fans. We've got budaj edge. Everyone talk and Michael Bloomberg. Yeah, they're gonna

go to Bloomberg, which is a big joke. So it's completely in place. So this would be the moment to split them. Do I still have the goggles on? But is this the moment to split the Athos men from the women? This is the perfect moment. And one thing I want to point out is the Democratic Party had no problem with Snoop Dogg and his vile language towards women. And if you want to look at it that way, when I invited him to perform at the DNC in 2016. Now

of course, I had no problem with that. No was fun. He was actually like an unofficial steering surrogate for the Democratic Party. Yep. They, they had no problem with this, but now it's like, oh, he's bringing up valid points that can ruin a bunch of our Boulay. But kissers and so not just that. I mean, you can't touch Oprah. Gail. Okay, you know, I was like, but, but you're getting close to Oprah. Now we've got your with the code that he's talking.

She's the biggest Boulay butt kisser. There you go. So we're gonna get that now. Here we are. So that attack first started on gjorde reads Joy read show the non dos. Yeah, then they're not a das Joy read. Who had Miss Tiffany cross on her show. For the week, Tiffany? Okay, well, mine is a little more

complex. It doesn't need to be said. I think who won the week or all the people who responded thoughtfully about the Gayle King interview with Lisa Leslie, I was so disappointed in some of the backlash that Gayle King got, listen, you know, as women in media, we can be on the receiving end of these very extreme comments. And so I will table the fact that was it appropriate for Gayle King to pose the question about the Kobe assault to Lisa Leslie. Look, however you feel about that

separate debate. What came after that this massage and noir and all these horrible comments from very prominent men, including, you know, Snoop Dogg who did his non apology apology this morning. But you know, he called Gayle King out of her name, talked about her physical appearance or hair, and I was just so disappointed because people like you know, Reggie Bush and LeBron James liked it and 50 cent you know, weighed in on all these ugly things. days after the hashtag girl dad was trying Right,

right. Oh, man, there's a lot there. Did you did you catch what? I would have fall back. What did you take away from that clip? I heard you say something. What? Well, honestly, I got kind of confused at the end when she took it to the girls dead and then I kind of forgot all the other stuff I was pissed off about. Okay. She said that Kobe assault. Yes. Yeah, that's yes. That's what I heard the Kobe assault. Yes. Holy crap. I thought he was acquitted. Well, the case was dropped. There's no

I mean, withdraw. Excuse me. Yes. Give me drop. But I mean, he he's not guilty anything so he can't be assault. No, but that's not how the media works. And they're doing exactly what exactly what Gayle King got cussed out for Yeah, they're doing exactly. Yeah, yeah, of course. And and the hashtag cropped up. We stand with Gail. So this is what she's thanking people for. For the hashtag dogs. Yes. So Snoop Dogg. Instagram post was liked by LeBron James Reggie

Bush 50 cents and a host of other black men. And I'm surprised they let I'm sure I'm gonna want to see how this plays out in the end, because that their names on a list somewhere. Like oh, okay, you really want to show your true colors. Well, hold on a second. Let's talk about this. This infiltrator on the on the non dos show. Tiffany cross Who is she? She's clearly some some political animal. Where's she coming from? Yeah, she she the political pundit. She has a website that

she writes. She writes about political in pop culture issues she makes she's she's somebody MSNBC brings on that they could have rollout to be the black voice in this in this role she was rolled out as the black woman voice. She said a lot of things that get joy read probably felt that she wanted to say but she wanted to, you know use this person for cover. That's how I that's how I took it. But that Kobe assault that that really I was like, wow, yeah, y'all are really doubling

down. And that she's those those names out there. Yeah. So interesting. Well, let's let Tiffany continue. And it was heartbreaking to see and it's just a reminder to people that look, these are real people in front of the camera. With real feelings. Gilkey is now walking around with the security and you know, I was appreciative of the people who came out and said, Whoa, timeout you guys are that does not honor Kobe Bryant's legacy. This was a father of four daughters. Yeah.

Snoop Dogg is raising a daughter, LeBron is raising a daughter, all these other people who who championed this message of calling her out of her name. So I just appreciative to the people who came out in Not to mention that Oprah because you know they impugned Oprah. Oprah has done a lot for the black community. So to say that these women don't do a lot and just as black women, we ride so hard for black men, it was not fair was not from our brothers. You know,

what, what, what do you say the bride? So what did she say we ride so hard for black men? And let me just say that we don't do a lot and just as black women we ride so hard for what does that mean? We ride as black women, we ride so hard for black men? What does that mean? We take out for black men at all costs, which you're not kind of doing that by letting Gil Gayle King get away with disparaging Cobis legacy. Have you read so hard? My mind about exploded

when I heard this? What are you talking about? And if she thought that there were brethren, you know, disappointed to hear this from our brethren. So I'm looking at Tiffany crosses, she doesn't have a Wikipedia page, which is now she has a website. Yeah. And so they're her bread and butter, I guess is the beat DC. The beat dc.com and their their positioning statement on the website is the intersection of politics policy and people of color.

Color people but it doesn't work if you do. The Alliteration is beautiful. But that takes that totally taken the course it's it's not all about what Snoop was mad about to that's not just a pivot we're full on into MMA and these guys all have daughters so we back to girls dead now. Is that the idea? Yeah, that's they want to hijack and put Kobe inside that box of girl dad got it. And what Snoop did was kind of ruin it by

coming with what he said. And on top of all of that, it's amazing that if you rise so hard for black men, why didn't you say well, sit snoot start the conversation. Let's talk about Harvey Weinstein. Let's talk about other people. That last you know, Trump's who no pun intended Yeah,

no, I hear Yeah, exactly. Yeah. So this final little snippet from this from this overall clip just shows you how threatening ovaries first of all I'm gonna white guy and I know not to pick on Oprah All right, no, you don't you they will need dental records. They will need dental records depends. Only if you're an ugly old white guy who's a pervert, then you're good to go. Otherwise, yeah, you don't need dental records. Wow. Who was that?

I have no clue. I just found that to be amazing that oh, you enjoy reading the background. She's right. That's that's that's worth another play. First of all, I'm gonna white guy and I know not to pick on Oprah. All right, no, you don't. You will need dental records. That's, that's the little the vasectomy guy, Chris Hayes. That's Chris Hayes. older white guy with a beard and with a beard and a hat. Well, yeah,

he was. Yeah, he was inconsequential to the story, but I was it was like at the end did a clip and I was like, Wow, he's really scared like, Oh yeah, you need did you come over? Oh, yeah, well. So that wraps the Jordan Reed Show. And then the follow up episode morning, Joe, is where they really ratchet it up starting with Reverend Al. On it is to become a Gayle King to fight gender bias and race

bias and walk in studios that didn't invite you. on Oprah, for that matter is hard to be a Snoop Dogg to come out of the streets, all of us have a hard road to travel and when we start shooting at each other, and when we start getting in the way of doing each other's jobs and threatening each other, and acting like it's acceptable for us to be ugly, because we may disagree on timing, that's when some of us must step up and say

hold it, we need to stop this and stop it now. So you can call me soft or sell out whatever you want to call me that she doesn't deserve. God bless your rubber now for defending a black female journalist who had her life threatened on Instagram. Oh my god, I had my life threatened on Instagram by Snoop Dogg. And if something happened to me, we never would have known who done it. Because it happened on Instagram. This is crazy. And there were there was something I want to point out

last show, which this recovering gave me a great opportunity. So you remember the woman that used the Washington worked at The Washington Post? And she posted this story about Kobe Bryant right after he died? Yes, of course. She she received death threats. So you can't say Snoop Dogg saying what he said is the one to one correlation. But yeah, Mo I'm sorry. And I don't know what clips you have. But the I've only seen one Morning Joe clip of this. And

it's and my daughter even sent it to me. She said oh my god, these people are freaking out. Not just a woman but a black woman. So I think there's a difference. You can be a white female journalist with death threats, man. But if you're a black female journalist related to Oprah Whoa. So there's a clear difference. It's not about being a journalist. It's about being and not even about being a woman.

And the point I'm trying to make is she would receive death threats regardless if Snoop Dogg say anything or not right, but they're shot and a mate Snoop Dogg but the bad gate go Yeah, of course. Yeah. For all he's the reason why I'm getting death threats. She really got death threats. I believe not from snoop. You can't say his No. I took it as just what I took it as is that we're coming for you won't come up for you on the internet. You know? Yeah. Drag you you know that kind of thing.

I didn't take it. Oh, I'm gonna be waiting your bushes. Gail, you know to make powder. I don't send any I don't think anyone took it that way. What does Black Twitter say? Well, it's divided. You have pro you have the Pro feminist. Those liberal those who have already bought into the program and those who haven't that's got to be your dividing line right there. Those who are have already been indoctrinated and those who have yet to be indoctrinated.

And to further widen the gap, we have Joe's BS rant. Hey, welcome back to Morning Joe. I just want to follow up on his yellow King story. Really quick, Rev. You've been talking about it for the past several days. We brought it up a couple of days ago. I gotta say I just again, starkest terms. A black woman, who is a journalist, has her life threatened from a guy who has 39 million people. That post is still up. The post is still up.

She faces threats and abuse. Her children are now facing threats. Security. She now Gilkey now has to have 24 hour security. And I'll be damned. Have I read The New York Times editorialize about it know what's on your bullshit about protecting journalists? When you have a black woman whose life was threatened nothing their Wall Street Journal? Nothing. Wait, what are you doing? What are you doing? Where's Viacom? CBS has a USA Today. Where are you? A black female journalists life

has been threatened. She and her children fear for their lives. And you aren't writing about this. All is everything that you've said about Donald Trump, threatening members of the press nonsense. Do you really not mean it Have you really not? None of that about Donald Trump? Is that all politics? Yes. Do you have do you have the rest do do the rest of this one did the rest. I got the whole of my I got my daughter sent me this. She sent me the clip, you know, and she's 29

and, and she's having none of this, of course. And she says, Look at this. This is a dad, you got to look at this. This is probably a clip for the show. And I'm gonna try and do her voice. Black woman. Black Woman horn horn horn horn emoji. Oh, I'm not even black dad. And he had me clutching my pearls in my Sunday hat a black woman. I mean, this is insane. Why, though? Why? And you hear me get in the background. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Totally says employer. That's his employer. Yeah.

Viacom, Viacom go after that. Yeah, go. Is that what you see here? That is? Just close your eyes. And imagine it is Twitter. That is Kancil culture on MSN DC. They were doing this to cancel snoop. Yes. And this is a form of email escalation. We did you hear? Did you hear the apology? sniffs balls are gone. And then and then you hear her? That's not even a real apology. For him to say that. Now girls don't make a right eye. Good enough. I know.

What her in the back. I mean, like the morning, Tom dominants. Silk is like Yeah. That's right. Preach. She's in the background doing that. I'm like, What is going on here? The way this come from Joe. And another thing, Joe, if you're listening, because you might be listening, Joe, I want you to keep this same energy. Yes. The fleet keep the same hand to when we started talking about stop and frisk and all the things Bloomberg did you know, is the New York Times on the

writing about this because it knows about Trump? You know, I want you to keep that same. Please. Yes, that same thing that you got going there, Joe? Hey, don't hold your breath. I'm not but we'll be here. Yeah, we will be here. Rent to Where's corporate America? Because there are where is core? America? Where is Viacom partnerships, let me set you up against a black female journalist fears for her life

this morning. Her children are facing abuse and threats. The New York Times The Washington Post, The Wall Street Journal, Viacom, no body is talking about this after preaching on a mountain for years, about how dangerous it is when Donald Trump threatens members of the press. Just why I think it's dangerous. We Donald Trump threatened some members of the press. And I think it's dangerous when pop culture figures threatened members of the press, especially a black

woman doing her job who was only doing her job. You know what, we can have a debate whether the question should have been asked or not work. So beyond that right now. We are so beyond that right now. What's the conspiracy of silence about New York Times? Why aren't you writing about this? What about you, Washington Post, Wall Street Journal? Where are you? Viacom? Where are you? A black woman has gone to bed a journalist in fear of her life I'm beside myself.

You know, it's it's almost it's not understandable. Exactly. I mean, I've seen them pissed off the two of them, but I've never never seen it quite like this. For the life of me, I cannot figure it out. I don't know if you got a grudge or if it's like we're gonna make this a huge distraction or we will make an example out of Snoop that you won't step out of line on your sanity. 2020 or this is what

you'll get are a little bit of all three. But for him to go on that rant like that, and call out all these different organizations and corporations. And like via Calm. Yeah, that's where he works. Only there's only one thing I can imagine. Yeah, that's Oprah calling for Joe and Mika, I've got a little message for you. What else could it be? Maybe but so that goes to show you that Oprah has no real power. Because this a pilot, she didn't give this apology when

she went up there and gave her crocodile tears. And she's not doing so well right now. None of that. They had to go get there. And you'll get there white gatekeepers. The power behind the power the power behind the puppets. This is what it looks like she couldn't get snow castle. No. So you know. She couldn't she can't she can't. The Oprah couldn't actually come out and cancel snoop. That would not be accepted. But yes, you're right, get get the hit squad.

She doesn't have the power to because her power it see. That's how we got to understand. And the reason why I did this is we're really seeing the Boulais and they really have no power. They carry water. That's what Boulais means advisors to the king. That's what they all they do is they get their talking points. They run out here and they black, explain it to black people. And then they run back to their hole again to get more marching orders. When they run out and they and when you step

out of line. They sit up or out form. But Oprah's fake tears can get snoot cancel. So they say Okay, step aside your little child, Oprah. Let me show you how it's done. Let me show you out. Our real lynch mob is done. And this is what this is. This is a lynching lynching and in and I know that you think are probably being like a stream here, but no. Well, I take that very seriously. We have to have him meal. We have to have him new. That's the mindset.

Really, you're right. No MO You know, you're right, man. This This was from high on order. This was some kind of like a real a real note one out feels like a memo, a memo. Now, just because I'm always trying to look for the little connections of Viacom, because yelling about Viacom, Viacom, Viacom, New York Times it but there's also no real love between Viacom and Oprah. Okay, maybe that's the hard part of it. It's part of it as part of it feels like Tyler

Perry, was hired away from Oprah's network by Viacom. Okay. Oh, yeah. BT. Yeah, that makes that makes sense. So that could be something there. But yeah, I mean, it's like you just you don't you don't do this to the Queen, or her lover. I mean, her friend. And the tone, the tone of these two of Joe and Mika. It's like, it's so liberating. It sounds like their their life depends on it. Almost. True. Are you got to earn your I think a lot of 2020 a lot of

people are gonna have to earn their work. Keep a lot. Yeah, good point. I was gonna say this went above and beyond the typical. I'm going to be loud and controversial. To get attention for ratings. This was something else this was emotional. And could I've watched lots of morning, Joe. I'm not I've never seen this. And that again, you know, it. My kid is sending this to me. And she's saying that some for the

show, which I'm sure she doesn't listen to that often. Then, you know, then it hit the mark, you know, then the word is out. And he's throwing papers, and he's breathing fire. And we're not even done yet. Rent three. And there's a conspiracy of silence. Reverend, you've, you're one of the few people that's been talking about this. What in the hell is going on? The fact is what you just expressed in very passionate terms, is my concern is not about Snoop Dogg. I like Snoop

Dogg. I defended him doing a gospel record. This is about a precedent of letting people infer threats and directly call women out. It was it was indirect profanity that was used. I've been saying for years we cannot use the N word V word or H word for me to not have said something because it's somebody that I know I think is a hide of hypocrisy and I get all kinds of pushback I've got clapped back but I must stand by the fact that women should not be called out of their name.

Correctly LeBron likes to pose and and and Name one person on the Set Name one person in entertainment doing talk shows who did who would post something like this that wouldn't be fired in three seconds, by the way. Oh, man. This is interesting. So I'm hearing out. He's getting pressure pressure from from the community. He's walking a razor blade. Yeah, he is. He's moonwalking on razor blade because he, his real power comes from the people in

the streets. Yeah, the people in the street don't like Snoop Dogg. And I presume LeBron and all those guys who are liking the post are also saying, we know what's going on. Or not the brightest. So calculate it. Yeah. Go back. Go back to the China. Yeah. Good point on the show. Yeah, he saw calculated he said, Oh, the people are going this way. So I'm going with the people. Right? That that's the calculation he made. But the Brian, you just made your name on somebody's list. Be careful,

brother. Because for sure, this is how it happens. I'm being honest. We this is how it happens. You piss somebody off. It's like, okay, we'll let you know be great right now. But any chance we get? And it's the irony of this? This is exactly exactly exactly what the problem was exactly what Snoop Dogg was calling Gail out for? Yes. And now they just add more names to the list LeBron, and you know, we need to Reggie Bush,

we need to do the MO facts celebrity consulting group. So we can tell these people what to do and what not to do because they're really messing it up. Wow, this is twisted. Yeah. And I like it a lot. So let's close up with our rent for they were filming yesterday with Martha Stewart. He they were filming yesterday for the h one. The Martha and Snoop's series potluck party challenge. It's supposed to be on the air

tomorrow night. Yesterday. Yesterday they were filming Martha Stewart was there William Shatner was there tomorrow. bruxner was there Trey Songz was there. They were all there working with snoop on set to film an edition of the show that will show they say he's for himself. They say he walked it back, he did an additional post, still leaving the threatening profanity laced

post up that millions of people can watch right now. He did an additional post sort of trying to make Gael look old or trying to do little dog whistles while sort of saying maybe we're not violent. It was not an apology. He did not pull it back. He actually made it worse. And he kept his post up mish. Wow. No, that's that's a great observation that this this was a total kit job. But it only makes it it only deepens the conspiracy. Why? Why is it? Well, we we kind of know why.

But we understand why there's a division to be made between Athos men and women. And this is mainly political and for power power reasons. But why let all of the the shitty white guys off the hook? And also for power reasons that's pretty disempowering in my mind. Well, as long as I can appear to have power, true, that's the Boulais never wants to have power. That's the big, big misconception. It's like we're kept we're well kept. We're

pets. You know, we don't go out and earn for ourselves. We're given our daily bread. Yeah. Oh, some people will call it butter biscuits. But and that's what they do. They go and they do. You see around now, wherever l is only there because MSNBC cuts his check. And he's between a rock and a hard place. And they're like, owl. We need to man up man up owl. Yeah. And you see what happened. So this puts the nice little bow on the Snoop Dog story, but I felt I had to bring it to

closure. Because I thought it would end at the end of last show. But then this happened. I was like, I knew he was gonna have to apologize. I thought the lat that how we ended last year would be the apology but no I have a feeling that this may continue mo I'm not so sure this won't come back this. This could continue. There's we got a new list, we got a fresh list. Let's just review the list. We got LeBron on the list. Who else is on the list? Who's making sense?

Did he sent who? Yeah. Which brings you bushes? Thank you. Reggie Bush. He's not one of the one of George W. Bush's kids. Reggie Bush. The Trump tape? Oh, well, yeah, this. This is not it's not all for Snoop Dogg either. No way. He's gonna have to be he's gonna have to be taught a lesson. And they're gonna parade him out. I'm calling it now six, maybe 656 months from now. He's gonna write a book a co author a book, combating toxic misogyny. You know, no,

no, no documentary documentary? Yeah, yeah, that'd be better. That'd be better. And he's gonna have to go on probably on Gayle King and Gayle King Show. To be taught Yeah, to be taught how to be a real man. And that was by giving you my my, my testicles. Here you go. We know they're all gone. And I heard him in that in that tape. They're gone. Yeah, that's, that's why he gave them to her. And but now he's gonna have to go back and you know, and he's gonna, I'm

calling me. He's gonna have to go back on a book tour. Because they did this with Kevin Hart. Remember Kevin Hart apologized course. And then they brought it back again? Much later. Yeah. He had to go apologize all over. Well, no, he didn't know he didn't. He said screw that. I mean, so I think he I'm, I'm appreciative of what Kevin Hart did, to know already apologized. He's had to explain himself, though. I mean, you apologize once and it's like, wow, I gotta keep explaining myself.

But which is ultimately why you said I want to host Yeah. So there we have it. That's the Snoop Dogg story. And that's the end of the first segment. So I love new money. I like new money. I don't know if you do, but I hate old money that's wrinkled and dirty and got all the diseases on it. I like new money. And when I give when I give things to people, I like to give stacks of money. It's fun. You ever had a stack of new money? Heavy? You haven't? Had you? A little

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like that one. How about this one? There you go. That's the next topic in our potluck special. So this next story really irked me and we'll get into why but another perspective on Dwayne Wade's child being transgender. But anyway moving on and other celebrities the world is raving. I don't know if you heard about but it's been reported that an NBA star the way weighs 12 Your son is transitioning from male to female not understand that a 12 year old boy whose name's

Zion Eber now goes by the name Azalea. Now they're saying the Wayne spoke candidly and it'd be with Elon the generals would you know we all love Ellen DeGeneres, which is going to add later today they're saying they're saying in the interview he discusses how being a father to desire formerly known as Zion. There's an NBA baller revealed to Elena he reached out to the cast oppose the foothills with dresses to help address the situation with which was this from?

This is from the Rickey smiley show. This is on radio. Yes. Okay. And I think it's, it's I have a YouTube channel as well with a caption in studio. But yeah, this is from the Rickey smiley show sounds kind of show busy. Yeah, it is one of those that everybody gets. Yeah, it's that kind of kind of morning show. Hi, and morning show. Gotcha. And he's gonna remember he's the one that replaced. Tom Joyner. Tom Joyner. Yeah, well, listen, damn, I guess

that's what you get for the money. They actually paid for that gig. Yeah. I'm wondering. So this story, this story really irks me? And not for the obvious reason? Because that's not what that's not why I'm covering this topic. The child to publicly document a child change the transitioning. I don't think that's a good luck. Now, wait a minute. Now you person, because they're putting this out there publicly you mean? Or they're actually going to document every step of the way? I think

that their acts, he's 12. He's, he's 12 years old. And I just don't think it's appropriate. That's something that you should not be on tabloid news for. You understand what I'm saying? Well, yes. Well, let me let me say that now that 12 years old is I think, a little young for any big life choices. But when someone makes this dramatic life change, part of the whole idea is that you the world knows it understands it, and converts in in their own process. So it's hard to do that as a celebrity,

or a child of a celebrity. Without without it, obviously, if you say okay, only friends and people that kids at school, you know, that's gonna get out so he can't really cover it up. So this would be something that might have to be, I would do this and say, Hey, we're really proud. Here's what's happening. And we'd like you to respect our privacy, and we're really not going to talk about it anymore, that that would be the way to do it. I don't think that's how it went down with Dwayne Wade.

That's my point. Yeah, gotcha. Hollywood is full of kids that's transitioning, we see stars, and we see the kids and we see, we kind of like put two and two together. But they don't talk about it publicly. It's like, like that. Chad, mono? No, that was like, Okay. And it was still a lot of a lot of noise around it, but it was just like, okay, just shut up. I'm not gonna talk about it, and then just kind of became accepted. And, but, but that happened later in life, I think for Chad, not at 12.

Right. And the other problem is that, well, let's just listen to Dwayne Wade, talk to Elon about his supporting his child. Thanks for being here. That was a clip from the ESPN documentary. And first of all, I just, I think it's what every you know, every parent should be is what you're being right now, which is unconditionally loving your child and supporting your

child and whoever they are. I mean, there are so many parents that are just Oh, you're not going the way I imagined or wanted you to be and freak out and you're so loving and supportive of Ziaja. And what a special child she is. Yes, yes. Yes. Thank you so much for that. First of all, me and my wife, my wife, Gabrielle Union, we are we are proud when I say proud, we are proud parents, of a child in the LGBTQ

plus community, and we're proud allies as well. And we take our roles and our responsibility as parents very seriously. That's what did you ring your bell for their? His wife, which is not the mother's child? Oh, I didn't know conversation. Oh, this is a twist. I was unaware of the conversation

is that she's kind of steering the child. As you know, have you noticed in the news, she's suing Simon Cowell for smoking and she had the big dust up with Terry Crews and she's always saying things that keep her name in the news, more than or her acting and her hers her own celebrity. Right. So it's a lot of speculation I'll leave it at that. That she might be guiding the child. What is what is what is her name again?

Gabrielle Union she was in clue or not clueless she was in one of those cheerleading movies and then she did bad boys to try to think all the big movie she she did. But I got him here oh man she's done quite a lot. Yeah she's she's she's worked a lot in Hollywood but bad boys to Think Like a Man delivers from even bring it on. Bring it on, I think was that that was that was the cheerleading movie right Bring it on? Yeah, that was that was truly move. I remember I remember her from but

that's that's the whole story behind it. But my problem is why you're making a public statement to the child is only 12 years old. I think that's a little young, like like even said, for any child to be making a lifelong decision. Three we don't see this with other groups of people and their children. It's more our private affair. Right. But of course, she's she's that you know, this is she's Hollywood. And he sports. You know, it's there's some things going on there too.

Right. And how this all kicked off was it was originally they showed up showed up at a pride parade. And she was there and Zion was dancing on floats. And I have a real problem with take your children to some of these get raised. Their adult themed? Yes. Especially San Francisco. I've I've I was there during Pride and boy was very adult themed. Yeah, so and then the other thing is to say a child is homosexual or heterosexual means you're sexualizing the child.

Yes, sir. That's another problem I have with it. Now, if you have a gender identity issue, and you're not sexualizing, the child who am I to say, what anytime a child is sexually sexualized, and I saw this with another child, he was the drag queen, the 10 year old Dre said Ellen had him on the show and he was spinning around the child, this child abuse this complete child. It's crazy. So I want to make it clear to the people that's listening. My

issue is not the transitioning. It's the sexual sexualization and the promotion of that sexual realization as men sensation or institutionalizing it as well. They are there they it's sensationalizing. It's making a big deal out of it. So let's get into part two of the clip with Ellen.

So when I when a child comes home with a question, when a child comes home with an issue, when a child comes home with anything, it's our job as parents to listen to that to give them the best information that we can, the best feedback that we can. And that doesn't change because sexuality is now involved in it. So once the 12 year old came home, first Zion everybody, I don't know if everyone knows originally named Zion, Zion born, as a boy came home and said, Hey, so I want to

talk to you guys. You know, I think going forward, I'm ready to live my truth. And I want to be referenced that she and her I would love for you guys to call me Ziaja. And so internally, now is our job to one go out and get information to reach out to every relationship that we have my wife reached out to everybody on the cast of posts. We just tried to figure out as much information we can to make sure that we give our child the best opportunity to be you know, her best self.

Let me go tell everybody at work. Now, as she read, okay, I don't know if you familiar with the show pose? No, of course not. Okay, so pose is the show with the ballroom dancing. Are you familiar with that culture? Well, what ballroom dancing? Yeah, the ballroom scene where the they do the voguing and these guys dressed up as women. Yes. identify as women. Sure. They do all the voguing and, yeah. To take your child to talk to there's better sources. You're a millionaire, your

wife's a millionaire. And you take them to a TV show. Okay? asked this, it did. And I was on the fence about doing this this segment of the show. The problem I have is I really don't know enough about them. And I don't think anyone can worry about any of the people on the cast. I mean, the people that cast could be a fantastic, fantastic bunch of people. True, but it all of this being done out in the open is part of the well. You know, this is the way

to go, I guess. I'm not sure. I mean, I've, I've read the book, I bought the book, specifically, how to know if your child is transgender and what to do about it. And I swear to God, and this is the book, this is the book that all these all the parents have trend of kids who want to transition or are transitioning read. And I bought a specifically to understand 80% of the book is political. You know how to deal with this, how to deal with these people how to deal with how to it's like a

roadmap for the parents. It 20% is about the kid. And that's, that's, that's what I'm saying. So I've educated myself as the child that help. Yeah, I've educated myself as best as I could. But I mean, please. And what I mean by help is if you want to get the child help to embrace their new life, if that's their choice, fine. If you want to say, well, we might want to slow it down, we're not

going to discourage you. If that's their choice to eat cheese, okay, I'm not one of those people to try to tell people how to parent their child. But when my issue is the sexual sexualization of the child, whatever that's like me saying, Yeah, my mom, my 12 year old daughter, she's a heterosexual. If I said that people aren't How do you know? I mean, like how you don't say like, that's a bold statement. I say, but I hear you.

So we have I have a clip from Rickey smiley here. And he provides another perspective on this story. Yeah. everybody's opinion because you know, is Dave's Okay, um, die. Yep. Yep. Yep. So just let it go. But then he got the baby up here. They take a found a pitch and the baby up here to where you are with a wood acrylic nails on the critic nails, and a halter top shirt on now. Be what you want to be. But the question is, if that boy was a real girl, is

it appropriate? Cuz my 12 year old daughter wouldn't have on know how to talk? No acrylic, acrylic nails? My 12 year old girl, right? They got plenty of time for that. They got the rest of they like to do that. Now why do you got the march that out in front of everybody. And that's still a child. This is this is me. Now you can get mad at me and the LG BT community can attack me or whatever and say whatever they want to say. But I'm just talking about just as a parent, you got to use a certain

amount of discretion. And it almost feels like exploitation to a child's sexuality. Yeah, yeah. Trying to you don't know, I kind of kind of catch you flat footed with this story. Not really. But that's why I'm trying to normally say as far as you don't know, specifically, this story, the tangent images that go with it and the images as Ricky Smiley was saying is the picture they took the kid got like, three four inch acrylic nails on and crop top. And it's like, that's just started when?

Yeah, exactly. It's inappropriate. I got I got lucky because my daughter when she was around 12 she was into Good Charlotte and she just wore black black pants, black, black hair, black eyes, black, black, everything. How unattractive? Can I make myself like it is good. I like where you're going with this. This is perfect. Keep them away. I have a 16 year old daughter. I have a 10 year old daughter. So he falls in the ages of those two. And really, girls not

really get into how I say like doing their hair. I want to say that like you know, obsessing over it in the nails and stuff till about 1516 years old makeup, that kind of thing. You got a 12 year old boy getting acrylic nails and wearing crop tops. Well now, because because she's chosen it. I'm going to recognize her as a girl and I'll say Xi'an I'll say girl just use me. Yeah, yeah. Okay. I've actually got to be fair on that. But I yeah, I'm seeing the pictures. I

understand. Now. It's in a pro propria to inappropriate and and with the whole backdrop now, the ladies cut these out, going oh, I know it's coming. I mean, I'm just sitting here waiting for the hammer to fall. We've talked about the emasculation of black men putting black men in dresses in Hollywood and feeling guilty for it. Oh, you mean like Martin Lawrence. And then, and what's his face? So Chappelle? Yeah, Chappelle little NAS X. I mean, we see all the things that

is constant, we only make 6% of America, black men. 6%. Now, how many of the flamboyant homosexuals do black men represent in Hollywood? Is over represented and we've done this show, we've done the show on this. And the whole point I'm trying to make is when you see it through that lens, and maybe people can't see it. How? Rickey smiley sees it, how I see it, that wow, like,

let me let me let me play this back to you. So you're seeing in Hollywood, when you look at Hollywood production, you're seeing an over an an unrealistic inflated amount of black men who are gay, flamboyant, definitely not your typical masculine representation of a man. Correct. I mean, you see, you have Billy Porter, you have Rue Paul, you have little NAS X. I mean, the list goes on. And what we're looking for is the counterparts in other cultures,

and you don't see it. We only make 6% of the population black men do 6%. Yes. Okay. Thank you for thank you for clarifying that. Because of course, of course, I don't see it that way. I will now though, this show ruins me as all this shit and people of color. And I got to see all the gotta pay attention the black man on TV, like God. And like I said, if if she was 1718 years old, that's fine. I don't have a problem with it now. But the fact that I'm a

parent, I don't like to see kids misuse. Of course. That's the whole. That's the whole reason for I even took up for me. Okay, saying he was the modern day. Greta. I mean, he didn't have a choice, a lot of choices in the way he was being steered. Right. I'm fair across the board. But when you look at this as a, as a whole, a lot of people don't understand what Snoop Dogg was saying, and why he was so angry. Well, yeah,

of course. Oh, yeah. When once you know what's going on, and once you know why he's mad, and what it's really about, but of course, even even that fleeting moment of understanding is just being plowed over by the mainstream and their own agenda. But anyway, I don't want to go back to that I want to stick with the story in here where you got taken it next, we have one of our favorite YouTubers, Mr. Krakoa, jeweler

144. And he chimes in D wave son, if they were truly concerned about supporting this young man, and they would have made sure that they imbued him with masculine energy so that he could understand exactly what his role is supposed to be in this society. And this is why brothers again, a lot of you guys have a hard time understanding why come out against the so called Pro blacks, because this is what they actually about. The so called Pro blacks, for the most part, they're not for the

empowerment of so called black people. They use the pro black, the black stuff, especially the celebrities who try to act like they're pro black. They use the fake pro black, the black stuff, as a cover to get you to let your guard down. Then they want you to accept what they're really about what just pansexuality, transgenderism, homosexuality, lesbianism, pettah, rasti, etc. That's what they're actually about. Because they're sexualizing, this young boy right here, for him to say

that he's a homosexual. What he's really saying is that he's attracted to other young boys or grown men. Right? They're sexualizing him. Some people may hear this and think, Oh, he's bigoted Are you know, he's not understanding what we're talking about the bigger story here or the bigger picture. And so, I found this interesting clip from an unlikely source. Mr. David Icke are you Oh, yeah, David Icke is the granddaddy of of the lizard

people. Of course, I know David Icke, and I respect him incredibly for a lot of his lectures, books, all kinds of stuff. He's very interesting guy. Well, this is a nonlinear clip. But what Want to listen to his thoughts on the transgender movement? So if you look at the transgender thing, again, it comes under this heading of if it's the agenda, you won't have

the right for another opinion. Because if you're trying to sell the idea that there is no biological difference between men and women, well, you're on a loser, because you can't win that debate. But if you silence the opposition, and you intimidate them into silence, through abuse, and all the rest of it that comes from that, then you don't have to win the debate, because there is no debate, and your view will prevail, and we're seeing it prevail all the time.

So as you're, as you're thinking here, Mo that this child is being used slash abused, to further the agenda and to silence the debate. That's exactly what it is. When you look at all the data points, when you look at how black men are being portrayed in the media, it's black and emasculation program that's being ran. Okay. Yeah. All right now, now, I totally understand. Okay, so I'm going to play this back. So when you look at television, Hollywood movies, etc, you're already seeing and a high

percentage of men in non traditional masculine roles. And then you get all this kind of stuffs thrown on top. Of course, we're just coming out of the Snoop Dogg thing with Gail and Oprah. And we know what's really behind that. And then this needs to be put front and center. I can totally see where you're coming from. Now, is it real? I can't say yes or no, but I know how it feels to me. It feels to you I'm sure. I'm just gonna take a guess it feels like there's a systematic thing at work here.

Correct. That's exactly right. And it's and even even if you say something, and if you can't really go back and listen to it, but when Rickey smiley first started talking, he was stuttering, he couldn't find his words. It was him to say it. Yeah. Yeah. Is this where we're at? Well, we can't even talk about it. But the art we can't rebut the argument and according to David Icke, that's exactly where we're at. And that's the plan. And he continues on with that and clip number two, if people

feel that they're in the wrong body. That's none of my business. It's their business. But if they want to self identify as as a sex different to their body, good luck to you, mate. Is a it's your right to do that and be it's none of my business. But that's not what it's about. That's the foot in the door. The foot in the door says we must not discriminate against transgender people. Okay, my hands go up. Absolutely agree with it. We shouldn't shouldn't be discriminate

against anybody. But that's when it starts. And then it starts to move. And now suddenly, you can't say this. You can't say that. You can't have this opinion on that opinion. If you're a parent and you don't like what's being taught to your kids at school, then then then you're a beggar and your your your your your auntie your your trans phobic. And the whole thing expands from the initial we must have discriminated against transgender people.

Yes. Call man I'm so glad you brought this this is deep, by the way. Because this, this Yeah, sure. It's black men now. You know, the this is this is an overall attack on men. I think. This is exactly what he's saying is so right. Because even I'm like, How do I exactly how can I say what I'm feeling. I'm not quite sure how to put it into words. But the whole point is even struggling and having the conversation, you know, in the back of your mind,

there's someone going to transfer. And that's how it works, I guess. And then you got to read I'll send you I'll send you a copy of this book. That the all parents are reading who believe their child wants to transition or feel it or the kid has said or whatever it is. It's kind of the book, and you'll see what I mean It's, that's why this is kind of hitting home what you're saying here, it's 80% political. How do you deal with this? How do you deal with school height? You know not

about? How do you love the child? How do you shepherd your child through this job? Well, you could, here's all the numbers you can call, it looks a heck of a lot like a program now that you've brought this to my attention. And as he said, they keep pushing. Not. And when I say things like black people, white people, transgender people, I'm not talking about the every day that you just turn run into meal

people. I'm not talking about those people. I'm talking about the icons or the representations that they use and the media. Yes, that's my problem. Because these these tools that they're using the media, and I don't mean it as a disparaging remark, but it's kind of like how talking about the Boulais. It's the same thing. They use these talking heads and these talking points to shape society. Yes. And once they start pushing, if you don't stand your ground and say, No, I'm not going to go

back any further. Now you can live in your space. I can live in my space, and we can coexist with each other, but you're not going to infringe. And make me change my mind on what I believe I can respect your beliefs. We do a dishonest show all the time. might not agree with something you say. Okay, that's fine. Okay, we'll agree to disagree and we'll keep moving on. But this next clip is an exact example of not only can they exist in their world in the way they want to exist, they

want to infringe on institutions. And case in point is Billy Porter on Sesame Street. Me and Tony Award winning actor Billy Porter has some words for those who have spoken out about him wearing a dress on Sesame Street. Now last month, pictures were posted of Billy onset of season 51 of the long running children's series wearing a

velvet gown. The same incredible velvet Christian Siriano gown he wore to the 2019 Oscars, a Republican state senator from Arkansas, whose name shall not be named, said in a Facebook post. Do you approve of your taxpayer dollars being used to promote radical LGBTQ agenda? He added he would like a bill to cut off all funding to PBS. Yeah, okay. Well, last night, Billy had the best response telling Page Six if you don't like it, don't watch it. Now listen, it really is that

simple. Let me break it down for you. In simple terms, think of it like this. I don't like sci fi. So I don't watch it. I hate steak. Sweat. Don't eat it. Do sci fi and steak still exist? Yes, they do. Senator no name queer people exist. It is not an agenda and we are not going anywhere. So Are you offended? Billy wore a gown on Sesame Street. As a parent, is it best to ignore a man in a dress for to explain to your children why a man is in a dress? Do you think PBS is funding should be

cut? Let me know in the comments below. Oh, man, oh, I hate this. I really hate this one. Let me say first, I come from show business since I was 15, but really 19 And I've always enjoyed the colorful people in the business. We had Boy George back in the day. You know, there's Elton John, that may is another perfect example. Color for people bring color and Joy to the world in their own unique way. But that was on you know, like you had to be an adult you

buy a ticket to go see the show. He would be in the in the context of of an entertainment based program, which is fun. You know, it's fun to have someone different, not the same old boring people. I enjoy that. And I appreciate it. Sesame Street is a learning tool. And I think it's there's other ways to introduce there's other ways to introduce this to children. Now to immediately take it to do you think that this is just some bullshit asshole who's like, do you think TBS should be

defended? PBS should be defunded by the government because they make money from the military industrial complex. It's all brought to you by Raytheon and and the Grumman. It's they don't need government money for this but that's thought the position of Sesame Street Sesame Street is, is a tradition. You know and it's it's it stands for something and it's changed over time. But I think there's other ways to do this than Billy Porter. I think Billy Porter is qualified to instruct children.

I did like his dress. In the end the hat at the at the Oscars. I gotta say this, I will say the same thing, if it had a puppet with a maggot hat on spewing dots, he can't have that either. No, I, this is not meant for you. This is for children. Most parents, they want to stick their kid now in front of Sesame Street, you know, with some animal crackers. And like, you know, and not have to worry about their child being steered. It's not about where

you're steering them. It's like them learning numbers, their letters that colors, how crayons are made. And that's fine. For Sesame Street, but that's the problem. It's just, it's this one after another after another, pushing these boundaries. And then it's every calls. You know, when you push that spring now is gonna have to recall and then when it does this, like seed, like this guy said, oh, yeah, I don't like steaks. I don't eat it. That's total many. How many groups are like you don't need

to eat meat? Meat killing the planet? Exactly. Thank you Bernie Sanders, speech interrupted by women against cow's milk. Right. So I just wanted to bring that up. It's just that the black community is always have been embracing of homosexual people. Yes. Very true. We proved that with the episode we did about Harlem. And so we talk about, well, let me stop arresting Hold on. Let me stop. Let me stop you for a second. You make a blanket statement there, which I don't think a lot of people agree

with. That my perception. And you know where I'm coming from my perception is that black men, a das men just to make it specific, because I think that there is a difference. In my perception, do not like homosexuality. Okay. We may not agree with it. Because you made a valid point, if a person wants to be called by a man, and when I have this argument with some of the people that agree with me, they will I mean, I'm not calling them, you know that or why would you

antagonize a person? If you want to be? You know, I knew you're sad person and they want to be called Patti Spain. Okay, that's your name, Patti. Spang. And they were transitioning what up cool, whatever. That's what you want to be called Muhammad Ali, change his name, to antagonize a person. That's one thing. But then you say what do you agree? No, but it mean, that's your life? Why can't we have that stance? But when you say you don't agree, then that's when they get wanting to throw you in

a reeducation camp. And he's like, you have to you have to comply you have to comply. So accepting you can disagree with something except would you? Would you Okay, would you? Let me try this science? Would you agree that white men in general in America I just keep in America are more accepting of men exhibiting non masculine flamboyant behavior versus a Dawson and this is where I think we do need to take the account take into account the historical assault on Athos men.

That's the point. This thinking I can't think of the white version of a RuPaul right off the top of my head. I can't think of it. Billy Paul RuPaul almost looks white sometimes. I'm just saying But who is the equivalent and pop culture that I mean, we use you guys, you you MO You guys got RuPaul you know, and I think every guy looks at porn like shit, man. Now, what are the white guys get? We get divine if you can remember. That's what we got. Is that Is that too old a reference for you?

I think I know who you're talking about. Talking about it. Yeah. Yeah, I'm just saying that. The flamboyant and you get Anderson Cooper. Right. That's that's unweit Well, Oh, okay. Well, Anderson Cooper on New Year's Eve as an example, I'm like, Oh, please, it's too gay for me. And I'm gonna say this. I'm gonna say this and we can move on to the next blog. I just want to say make this one point. Why is it when white men become flamboyant, they emulate black women.

Oh, this is Thank you. You're asking me I wish I had an answer. And I wish we could stop all of that. But yes, so it's your Oh my God. You know what I thought the culture is the culture is like, Oh, if I'm gonna be flamboyant, then I have to girlfriend act. It's like a black woman. And they learn that from black men so it's you I've never seen a flamboyant white man. Maybe maybe the Liberace maybe well, I mean but that how many years ago was that? So you

don't have anybody like that in pop culture? No, no, I mean, I have lots of people that I know or friends or in my circle and and not all gay men like that at all exactly. But all but that's interesting because you know, I think you and I are like it's like I don't give a shit whatever whatever

you do is fine. And if you're my buddy and you're Do you want to be flamboyant fine I laugh along it's it's cool I got no problem but I'm also not well that's actually changing but as a white man I haven't had this constant assault on on me since you know no man and in the home. But we but white guys are starting to feel this a little bit because we in case you hadn't noticed you might want to check your email. We're the problem. We're

the patriarchy is the white male who's fucked everything up. So I'm starting to feel it but it's in the it's, it's more direct. It's not so subtle. It's not a subtle elimination is basically one day we'll wake up and decide that you know you white straight guys, especially if you're old, you have to go away. But what's happened to the black man is is been sneaky and nasty. And this is the last point oh my goodness. We've been that for

400 years. And I know that sounds like a cliche but no and what they realized is that okay, we got them at 75% Single mother rate. So they're not really an issue anymore. You know last week he showed all the women that we could show the kids and you know now we have to go out to the bid target. The white men you are the canary in my coal mine my friend. And I appreciate

this eight Let's promise to come back and do a do this talk. This is this is some of the most difficult talk for two men to have really because just because of how you're perceived is talking about it i think i think that's somewhere in the back and must be in the back of your mind. It's because I know that

you don't believe a shit about whatever anybody does. But when it comes to this kind of assault and I feel you on the 400 years I feel you that way that having known you because believe me six months ago I've been talking about Willis so let's promise we went this time I will tell you with this conversation we will come back around to good I like it. I like it I get the sound effect so I can go on to the C Block.

C Block it is clip 22 sample another news we will take a look at the news stories that may not be on your radar but they should be police in Cedar Rapids Michigan arrested a man for allegedly kidnapping a woman and forcing her to watch all nine hours of roots telling her it was quote so she could better understand her racism. Come on, bro. I know it's Black History Month, but this ain't the way I recommend everybody wants routes at least once cuz you want to not at gunpoint.

Yeah. Now you and I've talked about routes. I don't know if it was on the show or before we started the show. It wasn't. Yeah, it's a it's a what do you call it? It was Colin Kaepernick episode. No, I'll be right now. But you call it a victim trauma, trauma, trauma based overtime and trauma based entertainment. Yes. Now. I'll just repeat it. When I was young growing up, I can't remember the exact year but I was still living with my parents. And I was living in the

Netherlands. And it came on and it was very impactful. And you know, we would sit every week we'd watch another episode because another hour another episode another episode. And it was impactful. That's what I remember. And I don't think you've even seen the movie. I think you read the book. Right? Nicely. I've seen it when it came back. Oh, I mean, my my parents sat me down. So now boy And you're saying Watch this. Oh, that was so they did they forced you to watch it all right, right.

All right, because it was like it's a it's like a history lesson but it's like so incorrect and incomplete. But mean for 97 years, that's what you get. But this man forced the white woman to watch roots. Whereas, you should have forced her to listen to at least 20 episodes of Mo facts that would have helped her right. But no. But no, no, no, go watch some roots.

So, okay, so let's get into the clip. 23 man named Robert Lee Noy was charged with first degree harassment and false imprisonment after he kidnapped a white woman and forced her to watch the nine hour slave documentary routes so she could better understand racism. That's

it. That's the tweet. According to police reports. When the woman tried to move, noi threatened to kill her and spread her body parts starting with her foot across Interstate 380 On the way to Chicago routes, which first aired on American TV in 1977. follows the struggles of one African American family told over several generations starting with Kuta kente when the white woman was asked Does she better understand racism after being kidnapped and forced to watch

routes? She replied yes after being kidnapped and forced to watch routes by a black man I totally understand why some white people hate black people on you're written all over it and in the foot thing this is not what a foot and there was this real? I remember seeing the the headline fly by. But was this real? This was this thing. This is really, this is real. These are real. Now. I understand why white people hate black people. That's hilarious. I thought that was a funny line.

First of all, for her not to be traumatized, and then to have comedic relief. That was pretty funny. But when I heard this, my mind started to do what it does. Oh, roots, captive woman roots, white woman captive groups. I was like, Ah, got it. America horror story. And my number one moment routes or headless routes. This was the funniest moment from the episode watching Delfines hedges squirm and she was trying to make it through Queens marathon stubborn

old lady head. And Queenie was hilarious to whenever she was listening all the movies in her marathon. I thought she was going to say precious based on the novel push by Sapphire. Bonus points to any of you guys who can complete Queens movie marathon successfully. Did I start this clip too early? No, they've got to tell them what's happening here. So let me fill you in American Horror Story. Is this show it comes from ethics? Yeah,

I never watched it. I know about it never watched it. But Season Three was about a witch Coven and Louisiana. And it was racially charged. You had the black witches in the white which is literally insane. racially black and white. And one of the black witches when they resurrected this old white witch that came from slavery slavery error. So somehow our head gets cut off and then the black wishes take her head and sit in front of television and make you watch all these black television

shows. Including roots Hey, sounds like when I heard this story I was like where did not hear this scenario in life imitating art I love it. Well it really does and I wonder if that's where he got the idea from but to get the beat of just give you context of the scene and what happened I have the actual scene from American Horror Story here too.

So we're gonna have ourselves a little film festival you're gonna watch Mandingo, the color purple and then my personal favorite backs starring Miss Halle Berry No, no no no that jungle music enjoy. Wait a minute. No, no, no, turn it down. Oh Lord. Oh no. Oh, I wish I was Lana cod. No damn Dan. Wade you land now I gotta go watch this damn show. So to give you the visual her hand sitting on her head singing along is that what's going on

her head? She's a witch. So she has been beheaded but she's not dead. Of course not. We all know that's not how you kill a witch. Hello. You gotta burn them. Yeah, so they have her head sitting up here and they forced her to wash all these baps in Mandingo and Rupes and that she can't take it so just wrap it up let's listen to the final American horror horror story clip tight in time bound niggers I didn't see bit of it. I'm not surprised. You kept your eyes closed your entire life.

Can't keep your ears closed though. Not without no hands to cover them what is that heinous? Get a wall in front of my grandma used to listen to it this doesn't touch your soul. You don't have one. When will my petition and you learn something? stubborn old lady had you know gotta go oh we got to find this guy, man. We got to find out. He was inspired by the great work of American Horror Story.

When I like I said when I heard this story, I was like, I heard that scenario somewhere before and it popped in my head. American Horror Story. And as you heard there, it's about re education. Oh, yeah, no, totally. And who produces that crap? Who knows is that I have no I have no idea. I don't even watch it like that. But I just wanted to see where they are. Whenever something was like racially charged. I want to see where it goes. And I was like, oh, okay, this is what this is

about. Black witches get white witches in slave masters and I Okay, another trauma based in my channel base. There were retirement. So I didn't really get into like that. But I remember that scene because it was just so jarring. I was like, oh, okay, so that's the C Block. All right. Now I'd like to thank the rest of the people who supported the show over the past six months, we won't have these

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Growing numbers of African American women in Maryland and across the nation are leaving traditional church worship, all of them are in search of something else, a spiritual belief that connects them to their ancestors, and where they can feel more empowered to control their own well being. They have found it in ancient forms of spiritual contact, some call it witchcraft, a term they accept and embrace. For most of us, this is how we worship a tradition that predates us all.

This too, is an ancient art of worshipping not to God the Father, Son and Holy Ghost, but just spirits and deities that span the oceans and date back to pre slavery days in Africa for you, in fact, which is, um, whatever the situation calls for. So if you come to me with pleasantries, you being respectful, you'll get Glinda, the Good Witch of the suburbs, but if you come at me with negativity, and meanness and disrespect, then you will get Evaline your worst nightmare. Okay, where's this from?

This is from the Maryland news. Really? Local, the local news in Maryland. Yes. So that so these women are leaving the church for a life of witchcraft? Yes. This is okay. Adams white perspective. I don't and I think we've talked about this. This is not something black people are into witchcraft. Case in point. Marianne Williamson. Yes, we started talking.

That's right. Yeah. And everything was going great. She was talking reparations, and then all that crazy stuff happened in the church and everyone went no, I don't think so. And who is she the spiritual advisor for? Oh, Oprah. And who is on the wall of black women nowadays for a certain segment of black women. Oh, you see all this come full circle. Mr. Curry. Wow. The Coven is on your wall people. Seriously, I mean, you. You try to you know, no, no, no,

you tricked me. You tricked me. You said there's gonna be a potluck. But there's a theme here. you trick me. Not a theme. It's life. Honestly. I mind these clips. separately. That's fine. They were just kidding. They were just sitting in my I have a Clickbank. Wow. Oh, that's interesting. I'll throw it in there. And as I see linked everything together and see I just got see today, speaking about the man making the women watch white woman watch routes,

right? I just got that today. And I was like, Whoa, that links everything together. And I intentionally meant to do this but This is how this podcast works. I mean, I love it. I love it. All right, she's naturally take like that take me to the witches. Okay, witchcraft too. They have many names and titles and ranks within their belief system. They are college educated professional women who've chosen to believe that there is a true example of

worship that is inclusive of the genders. It connects them they say to their ancestors and fills a need not found in traditional worship. But most of them grew up in the church raise question or questions and my family. In fact, my grandfather was a preacher and South I also grew up Christian. I grew up Anglican and Episcopal Church, the older I got the more disconnect I felt. I was raised Baptist. My father is a deacon. My mom, Deaconess. I was in church all the time.

These women are part of a sect. Ely Hola, FFA Oh CMag spiritual temple. They worship and offer prayers to assure a predominant deity, the deity or the Orisha of aesthetics, beauty, sex, sensuality, they are growing numbers of African American women who have chosen for themselves a new life, leaving the church in search of more meaning in their lives. And yes, it can be called witchcraft. Shake in my head. I'm blown away. Now, I will say this. Witchcraft has always

existed. And the quote unquote, black community, because there's a thing called routes, not the routes that we just talked about. But actual, it's kind of like when somebody works a spill on. Any, like, don't eat people food, they could put a route on you or don't do this, they could put a route on, you know, like, oh, okay, right. And what do you know what the etymology is of root in that context? is like some kind of poison root or?

I would I don't know it I think it's either the way out perceive it is that you have a tie with the person. So it's kind of like your route it your route to that part, you know, like the actual how routes, right? Right. Right. So and they can voodoo doll you that way. They can control you and route. And the common theme and this is very inside baseball is common amongst some a lot of black men that don't eat or strange woman spaghetti. And women. Yeah. put two and two together. Oh my

gosh, okay. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Because that was way they can work a route on you. So I'm not baffled that witchcraft is existing in our community, when I am baffled by is the openness of it. Because it's also looked at as a negative like, oh, you dabbling in the, in the black and the black stuff? Yeah. Black, right. Yeah. Yeah. So it was like, Nah, because that was the that was the thing with Marianne Williamson for me, if you recall, yes. Oh, yeah. I'm

very good talking points, bro. That kind of Illini spirit. And people yelling at me with that one. Yeah. So So when I heard this story, I was like, wow, they're actually and if you notice, they say educated so they're going from new, these new trying new thought process or new ways of thinking. And now they're coming back and being more open with it. So well,

okay. Well, what what what this truly is, of course, is undermining their religious background, because they all deal they all came from either mom or my dad was a pastor that was raised in this church, this church, and it's very clear to point out they went to college and then now they're witches. What school did they go to? What are you planning? On it was like, so cold, but yeah.

So What school did they go to? Is that maybe any of these liberal school I mean, a lot of these liberal schools and we're gonna get to why I think the source is really coming from. Well, let's get into witchcraft. Three had a recent convention in Baltimore and more than 200 Witches gathered a sisterhood. Their spells are for good, not for evil. In this ritual, the women are preparing an offering to shoot on behalf of a woman in California who's looking for a

mate. The ALMA Thai dish is sweetened with honey believed to be a favorite of a schoon prayers are sent over the offering and for the woman in need. Unfortunate is offered to issue the male counterpart of a schoon and placed in a secret place beneath the stairs with is found at home. Using shells they ask the spirit if she is pleased. For shells are tossed to the floor to land up to land down, bounce, the gift is accepted, she accepts it. So traditions may seem odd to most

a mystery to some complex and multi layered. These daughters in the moon always have a shoen women powerful determined and understanding say there is nothing to fear. They are here, and they will be here for the foreseeable future. Yes, there are witches among them. This is something that our ancestors did. And all we're doing is tapping into it. So that we can become our best selves individually and collectively. Okay, how old are these women? Made? Just the by looks of it. early to mid 30s

and 40s into they still live with their parents. Are they married? Are they all single? From the tail of it? They're successful educated women. Right, but I'm looking for the family situation. Are they married? They have kids? Are they single? They didn't really give all that background. Okay. Interesting. And what is this about our ancestors our ancestors used to do this really? Well. That was one of the main themes in the show of American Horror Story. This is our original religion. You seen a

skeleton key? You saying a life of what a life of Secret Life of Bees. That was a witch COVID The Color Purple had witchcraft. Yeah. This thing is been here at just under the surface. But now we're starting to see these different schools of thought. Surface do this. This could be like some club and Oprah is the head of it somehow. Hello. She was a big pusher of the sacred. Oh, man. Yes. Yes. Oh, my god. That was that was the huge book

club push. Yeah. Yeah. Which is basically, you know, you can manifest you know, anything with the thought the power of the mind. Yes. Yeah. So wish, Mike, I'm just saying is not strange that people have branched off to new religions. But these women came out of the church. And now they're headed into the other direction. You got to ask where is this coming from? Yeah. So, yes. Masking? Yes. Yeah. So how practicing witchcraft helped.

As a black woman, trauma has touched so many parts of my life, I first started to deepen my practice, when I was coming out of an especially traumatic situation, in the aftermath of trauma, especially this really intimate trauma, you kind of feel like your whole world has exploded, that you don't have a way for understanding who you are, or how you relate to the world around you. So my magical practice my witchcraft was a way of reorganizing the world around me really understanding who I

was and how I could exist in the world. When I was kind of in the in the deepest pits of depression and struggling with anxiety, even though I knew that the right thing to do would be to get out of bed and take a shower, I just didn't feel like I deserved those things. But by giving myself a ritual that transformed into I have to get up and take a shower, because there is a part of me that is holy, and that holy part

deserves to be taken care of. So while talk therapy was very helpful to me, it was actually magic and ritualistic practice that helped me get to my therapists office in the first place, whether it's acute trauma, or if it's the kind of trauma that exists when you exist in a body that society doesn't accept or doesn't value. I have found witchcraft very helpful, because it's a practice that really centers my personal value. And in a world that keeps telling me that I don't have

value. That's a really radical, radical acts. Wow. Okay. So she's preaching of some common trauma or trauma that the women have the victimization mentality. So what they're trying to do is take control back over their life because they feel like they've been victims, just taken away from what she said, You know, I had no control over my life, but magic from where the way I perceive it is lets you believe that you're controlling things. You're in control, you can do a spell or you can do a

ritual that lets you push you back into control. Now, I'll say I'm a big fan of manifesting I don't think like the secret is, you know, the way to go. I'm all about personal development. So it's probably better than drugs to go to go this route. So yeah, I can't, I'm not sure how I've made a video visual would have helped. What did she look like she did. She also didn't feel right. And her body or body was rejected. What did when she she

was she was an attractive, young, young, young lady. So, my point is this. I don't care what you believe that's your first, you're gonna find out about me. Whatever you're into whatever floats your boat, you like it? I love it. What I'm pointing out is you have this mass exodus of people leaving traditions. What is the root cause behind that? That's that's what I'm getting into when you see some something going on a group of people going

one way, Where's this coming from? Is this being steered from the top down? Is this being introduced to pop culture? And people started looking at looking into it? I mean, you saw this with Harry Potter. So when Harry Potter came out, magic became very popular. Yes. Before the AMA was for the unpopular, or for lack of better term for the nerds. Yeah, who, who see themselves as not having control over their life. And they need

something to give them, you know, power strength. So maybe these women are feeling the same way they feel like they're victims. And they need to have some way of controlling their lives. And I mean, that's just the way the way I take away from them. Right. But it's, it's it's an interesting observation that they apparently don't find this in the church anymore. This is true. That is true. That is true. And that's the part I

can't figure out where what went wrong? Or maybe the church is seen as the patriarchy because if you listen, my dad was a pastor. My dad was a deacon. Yeah, could be could be so so that might be just another rejection of the picture but but it's definitely a trend I otherwise it wouldn't be. I mean, I think these stories crop up from time to time, but I can recall a story of women being witches who are all black, I don't I don't recall that.

Well, the story do crop up, and witches also showed up, which is planning to cast a spell. If you'd like to participate in the ritual that's been making the rounds online members from the coven of the Raven Moon state, this is all you're going to need, but they tell me the ritual they're doing here. It's going to be a little bit different, which is from the coven of the Raven moons they they're doing their part to make sure America doesn't end up watching its own horror story.

So it is the end all squash all of all negativity, and that's a beautiful thing. At midnight. covens from around the world will be lending their energy to cast a spell on President Trump. Oh, high priestess Amy Jean Goosen says witches from her Coven will be using a ritual that will help keep negativity out of the office.

Basically what the spell does is it prevents the person in question from being able to draw energy from any negative sources, and it prevents the person in question from being able to project an energy that is going to have negative or hurtful outcome on other people. And while the effects may not be immediate,

sometimes things can happen soon as the next day. Incidentally, sometimes three months from now, members of this Coven say the binding spell will make room for more positive energy to flow into the White House. We do actually have governors who are Trump supporters, they would not have a need to feel binding him with a hindrance because what it's going to stop him from doing isn't anything they should want him to do anyway.

These governors say it's just a matter of time before we see what's in the cards, good health and prosperity and abundance for everybody and that I think that it is all there to be had for all of us. And all hail covenant the Raven loon bless Aveda witches. In Flint, Marina Parnell, NBC 25 News. Well, it worked. Good job. The president said no negativity is needed. He wasn't impeached. He's, it looks like he'll probably get reelected economy's

good. I appreciate it, which is and in this in this news story, they actually told you the ingredients what to get you need something orange and the whole rundown something orange Oh, that's seriously, that was one of the things you need something orange and they listed all the other ingredients so that we're promoting the casting of spells through the media. And this is not the first time President Trump has had beef with the witches

today. Since for President Trump from all things, Russia to impeachment, a terrible witch hunt, the greatest witch I have, which happens every week. But there's a group that's not amused the witches of Washington. This is one of their meetings and dash keys tells us when the witches like you see here are gathered, President Trump does come up. Sure. Not only does he come up, but there are people in the community that take action, you know, through magic through

spellwork to try to change the circumstances. Witchcraft, not so much like this. Are you going to be trick or treating? But through rituals? Like this spells? Sure. Do they still happen? Yeah, you do. Yeah. Tell me about that. Yeah. So a lot of ways spellwork magic, these are all akin to prayer. And a lot of ways worth noting. Dash is a witch, the term doesn't just refer to women anymore. As for the President's use of the term witch hunt, Jash says when you look at the past, it's simply

absurd. Historically, witch hunts were performed by the powerful toward the marginalize to have the president of the United States claiming to be the target of a witch hunt feels like it's just wrong. In Northwest Mike Valaria w USA. Na. They're seeing it all wrong. No, no, they they were casting spells, putting orange peels out there doing whatever. And he became a witch. And then he was hunted as a witch and I don't see the problem. And they've

nailed it. They've turned the president into a male witch. Well, okay, I guess no, no. No, Tom, for that. To go all the way in that when a not enough there? Well, there are many but yeah. So I don't know where this week's thing came up. And it really came out the woodworks with casting spells on presidents after Hillary lost. And some people have said Hillary is literally a well with

what was her right hand man in Arkansas? What is his name? He was with the whole Clinton Kartell or whatever it used to be. He was her he was her or Roger Stone. Her version of Roger Stone. I can't remember. He was used to be on Alex Jones all the time. But yeah, she smelled like sulfur and whatever. But I thought great, but it's all right. I got you. i Yeah, the 2016 which is became came out of the woodworks. So because Yeah. Okay, these are disturbing trends. We must keep our eyes on

because before you know it, I got nothing against witches. By the way. Ladies. Don't need no spells ladies only. That's right. That's right. Dash, dash dash. My goodness, do I do the sound effect here? Yeah. So this last clip is a random clip. And it really doesn't fit in anywhere. But it covers a theme that we first talked about on a show maybe on the first couple of episodes. And that was

no man the house. And no man the house, basically is taking the father out and letting another entity become the father. His real daddy, thank you for putting me on. I mean, you have the definition of a real father because when your kids is hungry, they have food stamps. Yeah, we shop at Walmart. Yeah, we shop at Publix. We shop at Winn Dixie when your kids need shelter. Yes, you have housing. And you also have section eight for a lot of us. And when our kids fall get hurt or sick, they

have Medicaid. Yes, we go to the ER, we go to the walk in clinic and we also can make a doctor's appointment. I get their prescriptions with no hesitation. Now, that's not the definition of a real father making sure your kids have full shelter in health care. I don't know what it is. Thank you for being my kids, daddy. And thank you for putting me on. Wow. Well, that's that's the result that guess it was the desired result. Is this a recent clip?

Yes, this is this year. Thank you government for being the father of my kids. Well, yeah, I would be depressed. I would be depressed about this. If I didn't know that. You're You're a great dad. You got four kids, God bless them. So that gives me a lot, a lot of hope. Because this is kind of depressing. And all my friends in this this is where we're not a monolith

because all my friends have Kids in their great fathers. So it's that's not the case not everybody well I'm just showing this mentality of no man house, it lives on people questioning me on it and that's why I play that clip because it lives on and it's only getting stronger and more facts is going to shut down for this week please remember to support the show with some value at mo fund me.com mov fund me.com And as I always say pay attention to everything and the truth will reveal itself

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