23: Blacktivate

More facts with Adam curry for January 28 2020. This is episode number 23. Hey Moe, how you doing? I'm doing good. Adam, how about yourself? Yeah, doing real good. Thank you. Actually, I had to think of you today and the show. As I watched dolomite is, is my name. Eddie Murphy movie. Have you seen that? No. How is it? Really? Well, I don't want to, like praise it too much because

I thought Tina didn't want to watch it. And then she came home like, oh, yeah, and I watched Dolomites, like I wanted to see that. You know, it's like that in our family is cheating. That's adultery right there. You know, that's, you can't look ahead. You can't you can't No, I don't look. She's the one that likes to look ahead. But I I messed up on this movie. But I liked it. I think she's watching it right now. He was really good. And it was true story. I

had no idea. I didn't know anything about dolomite on my watch list, but with the kids around, you know. You got to know I packed mine off. Couple years ago. Goodbye. Okay. Now it's time for daddy to watch movies. ties everything going? Yeah, everything is good. I'm ready for another mo facts. Got a lot of good feedback on episode 22. But mainly about Martin Luther King, Jr. Yeah. And yeah, I saw a lot. You know, I wanted to mention this to you. Twitter is racist. And I'll tell you why.

When, when I, when we put out a show, I tweet out a show. And then you know, people are liking the tweet. And you know, then I'll or you know, they have a comment, I'll reply. You know, maybe I'll follow up person. And then within like, 24 hours, you know, I've got a different Twitter feed. You know, it's it's, there's a lot of Black Twitter coming into my feed. And if I don't continuously do that, it Twitter just kind of phases it out. And all sudden, like, where's the blackness in my

feet? I don't see anything. It's like faucet or frost. or dark. Tell the neighbors It's okay, honey. No, but it's my fat finger to a light here. So it's good to know, but it's really weird. And I don't know, I'm not interacting enough or I don't know the algo somehow thinks that I'm not interested just because I'm not following new stuff or something. I know. It's weird. I don't like it. I think it's annoying. Yes. Well, I don't do social media too much. I just use it

pretty much for the show into DM. Yeah, the people from the show. Yeah, like, well, I use it as an inbox mainly. But from time to time I want to follow a topic and I know just notice it anyway, let's crank up the wheel here. And let's see what what topic Moe has brought for us on episode number 23 of moe facts without a courier. The wheel comes to a standstill. We see. Okay, what is this whole like people of color label? Is it just that we're not wait?

Yes, the third rail of race relations. Here we go people of color which I cannot just let people know. I cannot stand that term. I hate it. I hate very few things, but I hate it. Because when I hear people of color, my brain does this weird thing and says colored people. Now do you believe you're unique in this or do you think this is something that more Pete and more people would be irritated by if I have my wishes everybody would be irritated and do that

same change? Because all you did was take off the EB though and oh f switched the words around and like oh yeah. People of color. That's fine, but color people is offensive. Social Justice Warrior hearts are breaking around the nation. This should be headline news. So with this show, we're going to get to people of color. And women can I just say that? I specifically did not ask why does it bother you I presume the next show will help unwrap this.

Actually the next clip will colored it is just a word that has horrifying connotations. It just brings back with it echoes of signs that say no colors, hair colors not allowed. Think wherever you are in the world, it just takes you immediately back to a difficult time and rightly or wrongly and perhaps this is a

little mean of me. Whenever I hear a white person use the word colored to describe black people I'm gonna assume you don't have many black friends, it kind of just has some of the most horrifying connotations it carries with it echoes of a very difficult time. And it also carries with it my least favorite argument in the world, which is when people say, it's

just a word. Words are all we have. And if somebody is telling you that this is not the word that they want used about themselves, and that's something that people need to learn to respect. The reality is a lot of people still to this day are confused by what word is acceptable, what word is politically correct to use, which is a horrifying phrase, I think the polite thing to do is to use the word that people themselves are comfortable being used. And that is definitely not colored.

So when I hear people of color, I literally see the sign on the door, colored zone, or any black and white media videos, say, color only, you're not going to play this mind game with me, because this is what I think. And we're going to examine one where the term came from, to how it is used. And three, the group of people they chose not to box in this term, people of color or POC. So like I said, when I hear this, I find it very offensive.

And as we always do, I had when I went on a hunt to figure out where it came from. All right, back back to ground zero. Yeah, so we had to, we had to go back and figure out where it came from. And it's not, it's not a race unpacking people of color. Some of these terms are placed on us. And some of them like people of color, and women of color come from within groups. Loretta Ross is a feminist and educator. She told me how the term women of color came from the US women's movement of the 1970s.

And how people of color came afterwards to include men. It was created as a statement of solidarity says people who are oppressed because of their race or ethnic background would work together, if not a biological designation so much as a political designation. Huh, okay, couple things in there. First of all, when you say people of color that's also grouping a much wider group into one is that how you take it for Yeah, because who's included? Anything not white?

First of all, we are not colors are we examined that before and other show I use the term black just for the sake of argument, and it's why I say quote, unquote, black community quote, I say quote unquote, black a lot. And I mean, I don't harp on it too much. But we are not colors. I'm not black, you're not white. Oh, Hispanics, not brown. And then they use this term Brown, like very loosely. Who's Brown is Asian people are

brown, are they still yellow? Is the is this is weird thing where it's more like, it's more like losing an identity because you're being lumped together with with a bunch of others instead of gaining one which is also of course, questionable. For a political purpose. That's that was that was political. Exactly. It's all political. So we formed this nice little box to put non white people in and when we go back and think about why and black and how that was established, that was to post

slavery. There was only really like two races, white and black. The way they shaped it, right. And people that appeared to be white could be KeePass. As we talked about last show, right? The brown paper bag test. Yep. Yeah, with J. Edgar Hoover. He passed. tons of other people pass. By the way, I took another look at some pictures of J. Edgar Hoover. Oh, man, you can totally see it. Totally see it. That's what as you see it, you can see

oh, no, nice. Exactly. It's like one of those 3d pictures where you don't see it and all sudden there's a statue of liberty. You know that. That's what happens when you when you do an image search on J. Edgar Hoover is like, okay, he's black. That goes to show you about race in America, which is such a big topic, but we probably had to do like a 10 part series just to talk about what actual races are and who's what, what who's not. Right but what they don't what politics is, it's a basic color

people means non white. Right? That's the only thing it means right? So they lump you into this nice little box. But we're gonna examine that often when people become American, quote unquote, American. They come out of that box. But that's just a little foreshadowing. Oh, you're probably wondering who Loretta J. Ross is. She's an African American academic feminist and activists who advocate advocates for reproductive justice. So he

spoke at the 1970s. Set. Well, I'll let her tell you and Loretta roller. Running, read a loss, there you go. Origin of the loss the origin of the phrase a women of color, younger when a term woman of color came from, he can say that we're bad at transmitting history. In 1977, a group of black women from Washington DC went to the National Women's Conference that Jimmy Carter had given $5 million to have as part

of the world decade for women. There was a conference in Houston, Texas, this group of black women carry to that conference, something called the Black Women's agenda, because the organizers of the conference, Bella had Ellie's meal and what have you have put together a three page minority women's plank in a 200 page document that the black woman

thought was somewhat inadequate. And so they actually formed a group called Black Women's agenda to come there in Houston with a black women's plan of action that they wanted the delegates to vote to substitute for the minority plank. That was in the proposed plan of action. Well, funny thing happened in Houston, when they took the black women's agenda to Houston, then all the rest of the minority women of color wanted to be included in the black women's agenda,

hijack hijack hijack? You know, if one thing is consistent throughout these 2022 episodes we've done so far, and just being the 23rd is that is the hijacking by a whole bunch of other players. Hey, look at those black people. Let's jump let's jump on that train. That's so consistent when we say that everybody thinks we're paranoid, or are you just saying that are you just think everybody's taking everything for you? Literally, when I say we opened the door,

yeah, you actually do? Yeah. Everybody else is kind of like, Oh, thank you for opening that door. Why don't you hold it for us? While we reap all the benefits? So what's the conversation you have? With people about this? Do you say Hey, we should stop holding the door open? Or is there some magical barrier that makes that impossible? I mean? Well, it's the idea of, well, several ideas, but one of them

is, is like black nationalism. Well, we build for ourself. We depend upon each other, we spend our dollars with each other, right? That way, you're not when you make these coalition's people don't get your ideas and then leave you out in the code, right. Which normally happens, but I'll let Loretta Ross continue. Okay, well, they agreed, except that you could no longer call it the black women's agenda. And it was in those negotiations in

Houston, the term women of color was created. Okay, and they didn't see it as a biological designation. You're born Asian, you're born black, you can make whatever it is a solidarity definition and commitment to work in collaboration with other oppressed women of color who have been minoritized. Now what's happened, you know, in the 30 years since then, is that people see it as biology now. You know, like, okay, and people are saying, I don't want to be defined as woman of color. I am

black. I am Asian American. Well, that's fine. But why are you reducing a political designation to a biological destiny? That's what white supremacy wants you to do. Yep. And it's probably a good idea to point out here that there are many things that are being propagandized upon women of all colors doesn't matter. Because you need them all to make these things happen. And these things should be a warning, you know, you think you think you're doing exactly the

right thing. And then you wake up. It's like, now this didn't really work out that great, because when you have political groups and political motives, wants it serves its purpose, purpose. Yeah, polity get tossed out. Yeah, it's left you know, so that's why you have to focus on and this is one thing the Republicans or conservatives are different from the day McCracken just to get in a little politics Hot Seat. Republicans are a collective based on their ideas.

So it's like, okay, we're pro Christian Pro or like evangelical or low taxes or General General conservatism. Yeah, I guess. I mean, they're they bond with each other based off the ideas. Were with Democrats. It's like, oh, yeah, you're, you're, you're kind of brownish, and you're kind of brown. When you sit? Well, I don't think a single Democrat would agree with you. But if you really step back and look at it objectively, that is how most of their communication goes on. And maybe

that's part of some of the brain fry. You see, when people start to figure it out, go, what it is, like, just as a quick example, like, Silicon Valley, everything is being pushed for a cashless society. And then all of a sudden, someone stands up and says, Hey, you can't do that. Because the homeless people. And this is like a brain fry that takes place like, oh, wait a minute, we have but we want progress. But we can't have

progress. What do we do? You know, instead of actually thinking about solving the problem, which is homelessness, but but that kind of brain fried takes place at a certain point. And I want to be clear with everybody, I am a political. I call myself a political atheist, because I don't believe in politicians. But just an example, what we saw in my home state of Virginia, what last week? Yeah, last Monday, yeah. They were surprised about how many black black black boys

showed up with guns. Because it was the idea of we believe and protecting ourselves. And to do that you need to have arms. So that's what that's what the point I'm making Bob, you have a collective of people around the idea, instead of my genitalia or my pigmentation of my skin or right, in fact, age or identity, those kinds, I believe, part of the media failure. Because of course, it was peaceful, but I

wasn't there. So I don't really know everything. But the media failure, which I am an expert in, to me was there were too many black people, brown people, a non white people for the television picture for them to really portray anything that would go along with the narrative of, you know, white nationalist, white supremacist Klu Klux Klan. So I think it truly was diverse, otherwise, they would have shown it, I know how they think I know how it works. I was there once.

It's a it's a diverse crowd of people that want to protect themselves, especially if I don't want to go around around just make this one last point. If you have been telling me this is the worst time, you know, in history for racism, as a black man, quote, unquote, black man, why would I want to give up my guns at this very moment in time in history? That doesn't mean

get with the program, Mo pillow? Turn it in your DNA Come on, if I believe what they say, if I if I was to believe what they say, that's kind of counterintuitive to what, yes. What I should be doing. But we're gonna get back on track here with the final clip from Loretta Ross. And I don't think it's a setback, but we disintegrate as people of color around primitive ethnic claiming, yes, we are

Asian American, Native American, whatever. But the point is, when you choose to work with other people who are minoritized, by oppression, you have lifted yourself out of that basic identity into another political being another political space. And, unfortunately, so many times people of color, hear the term people of color from other white people than they think white people created it. Instead of understanding that we we self named ourselves. This is a term that has a lot of power for us.

But we've done a poor job of communicating that history so that people understand that. Yeah, thanks, Loretta. Don't blame YT. It was we were just following instructions where they didn't create it, but political systems hijacked it, of course, of course, whatever you want, and, and I really don't honestly, I don't know who's included, who's excluded because you talk to some people. It's, some people are included, and

some people are not included. And how we made the jump from women of color to people of color, because men, they want to include men. So do you have to go to POC, or as I say color people and I'm just gonna I'm gonna, I'm gonna rob that home. Because that's what I hear Eric's me, I want you to keep saying that. That's the whole show. Color people. When it took the first time, I saw the initials POC, I was like, What? What? And part of that is, you know, I'm used

to P IC, which is piloting command. And so it kind of confused me for a moment I O people of color. And just intuitively like, I'm not using that it's also too it's too many words, stick. And I've never, I've never used that term, to describe myself or to describe other people. And let me tell you, I hear it use a lot, or use a lot. Well, we're going to figure out the source of where it's being propagated. And we're going to go to Macalester College.

So for me, a lot of has been like, Okay, what is this whole, like people of color label? Is it just that we're not white? That seems like a loose way to go to tell me about that label? Some students embrace it, some students? Yeah, like that. And I'm like, you know, so I was reading this book, or I was skimming this book, to be honest. It was like the heart of whiteness. And so it was like, the thought there is that why are you calling people of color people of color, just because

they're not white. So then should use the term non white, but is that prioritizing whiteness as the norm? And assuming that all white people are the same? So? I mean, I hate it. But it's like the most applicable term I don't know at the moment is the term that everyone recognize right recognizes right now. And so it's like, okay, how do you create unity among people? But then also, you can assume that someone is not white? Yeah, well, that was interesting. I kind of hate it.

Oh, let's use it. Yeah, well, a mo, thank you for for bringing this one up. I've always thought it was a weird term. Intuitively, I've never really thought about it that much. I just don't use that I say, I say Americans, if it's if it's pertinent to the conversation with color someone is then maybe, but not people of color. But that's just not me. Because I just fight against everything that's trendy, including my hairstyle and my clothing. Can't you tell?

I'm sure you're doing just fine. But I'm wearing untuckit. On top, I like those shirts that admit I like which we're not doing the ad. No, we're not doing the ad, folks. Oh, no, no, because we don't have any ads is why we can talk about products, honestly. Right. It's like people of color. Onward onward. Oh, so we have to look at who's in included or inclusive and who's non inclusive. Right? Is it and the two major groups are black and brown, right? You know, don't that that's the

core. And then Asians might be depending on what part of age you're from, or your economic status, or status. I believe that Asians get a really raw deal from time to time. You know, they're getting cut out of college admissions now. All kinds of stuff. So they don't get in, when it's when when when they accelerate when they excel in the doing really great. And there's a lot of them qualifying for entrance entry into I think it was Yale. I want to say I not sure. Yeah, but

also that now we got too many of them. We got to slow them down, then all of a sudden they're not people of color, then there Asians. And that's another thing Asians, like, how about from India? There's brown people, they're brown, they're brown? Yeah. But are they counted? And then brown and black? I don't know. And I'm trying to figure out but I'm gonna say I've been doing my studies here. I came

across a term and I really couldn't find a clip for it. But you gave me an excellent segue into going there is called the model minority myth. Model Minority Myth. No, no, I haven't. Okay, so this is why Asians get kicked out of the POC, or the colored people group, because they're educated and self sufficient, and it messes up the narrative. Ah, so it's like, you gotta go, you gotta go over there with that. Self Reliance. You figure it out on your own group. Is that the idea? Wow, yeah.

Wow. model minority. Okay, putting that in the show notes and not heard of that. Yeah. So we were saying just to give you I just, that's why they're sometimes excluded. But of the group wanting to groups they want to merge my many it's weird. Is the Latinos on that Next, however you want to what phrase you want to use, because that's even confused. I don't know what everything's being super segmented. Now, you don't know what you're supposed to

say. But I found this clip from the New York Times talking about the Latino Latino race, I think the Latino identity is pretty confusing to me. Because oftentimes, I find it in a little checkbox on a form. And I'm confused on whether I should put Latino or Hispanic but I'm

Mexican, as Latin Americans as Hispanics in the US. There's, there's a community that gets built, regardless of which specific country you're coming from, in our history is a history of African people, indigenous people, Europeans, gunky style, all this all these different people colliding many times, not with their consent. So that informs all these loaded issues people have,

it's like navigating three identities. Here. If you're from the States, you're American, you're black, and you're Latina. Furthermore, wherever country that you identify and coming from, and that's, those are that's a lot to navigate. See, Mo, you don't have all this girl's got problems. She's also a woman, there's another thing to navigate. Oh, my goodness. So within their own group, they have this mini segment. Or you want to jam, black people in brown people together when they

haven't even worked out amongst themselves. Yeah, they're how they're going to be categorized. Right? So I'm just giving background here how nonsensical it is the coalition pitch on the crate, and then people freely admit that it's like, well, it's kind of messed up, but No, all right, let's go along with it. That's what I'm hearing. And that's what I'm pointing out is that is, it's that brand. It's like, okay, well, I'll just buy this brand, because that's what's available.

What color is the Louie? That's what I want to know. Exactly. So, um, let we'll continue on with this. This New York time piece. People say, Oh, you look like a white dude. In some contexts, not in all contexts. Depends where I am. Depends. who I'm with depends a lot, whole lot of things. Depends what language I'm speaking. But however, I look, when I leave my name, I can't get a phone call back about an apartment in New York City. And this isn't like 10 places I call this is like 30.

And I remember telling a kid one time, I was like, let me tell you the Ku Klux Klan comes here. And they see your last name, you're going to bro? And the kids are like, What are you talking about? And it was like a big thing. Because one of my daughters is lighter than the other. They had blackness issue. And I remember my oldest daughter telling my youngest daughter that she was black, and her hair. She says something and I remember crying, like immediately, like, Oh, my God.

No, no. Wow. Oh, my God, no. Black. God. That's what I heard. It's like, yeah, here if you had two daughters, one's I'm assuming dark one is fair skinned, or light skinned? And it's like she was torn up about it. I'm not sure what it is. It's kind of insane. You got two sisters that can't even get along with each other. They share the same genetic code for at least from one side and maternal sounds like nobody needs white people. There's enough racism going on as if you don't need

our help. Well, the question is, oh, here we go. Who is really white? Yeah. Can Latinos benefit from white privilege? So can we benefit from white privilege? The short answer is yeah, for example, not only do light skinned Latinos dominate being on TV, remember, but countries like Brazil and Cuba supported policies that actively widen their population, and countries like Mexico deliberately ignore their Afro

Mexican population in the national census till 2015. But when it comes to Latinos living in the United States, the answer can get a little complicated, but let's start with what does it mean to be white. I've met Latinos with skin whiter than Jorge Ramos, a scalp, and that's because when European colonizers came to the Caribbean and Latin America, they brought their light eyes, pasty skin and some weird us diseases. Many light skinned Latinos today exhibit features that are or sometimes

pass as white in the US. This means some Latinos do experience white privilege. White Privilege doesn't mean you're automatically a bad person. It just means that you might not face certain obstacles because of the way you look. Yeah, I think this was a clip from MTV, if not mistaken. This was actually the cat call. Oh, sorry. I thought that was an MTV. I had that clip. But it was like redundant. I know exactly what the black girl was. Yeah. Well, they might they had talking points you

really? Think? Imagine that. So Latinos can benefit from white privilege? No, no, no, no, no, no, you better believe they can. Yes, it herself. Yeah, they can pass. So it's like, like, like a test. Like, don't mess this up for me. You change the last name. And nobody ever know. Because if you heard in the previous clip, the guy said, you know, he's pretty much a white guy until he got to put his name down on the floor application or apartment, right?

It's like, oh, yeah, Martinez, huh? Okay, we're gonna call you back. But they have the luxury of I've used this term before being closeted. And this is another reason why this coalition of Colored People won't work. Now, because we can't be closeted or what some of us can't. I mean, if you're like a J. Edgar Hoover are people like that? You can but for the most part, we will hold on a second. Is there anyone else that you know of currently, who you feel is in the public eye? or less? That is

of a J. Edgar Hoover situation? Mariah Carey. Oh, my goodness. Okay, but she doesn't count anymore. I mean, hello, 1990 and give me something I'm gonna say. Recently, I mean, I got you. I put you on the spot. No, that was his name is Drake. You right? Yes. Drake. Scott's plan you're so racist. You laugh because you think I don't know Drake songs? No. That's talent. I'm sorry. You missed your recognition of my talent for racism. All right. When he walks that line, he

so yeah, Canada. So Right. Don't you know, it's like being when you start rapping? The question is, is it really a benefit? Is it a benefit? To Drake? I mean, okay, he's pretty successful, but it's beneficial. Do we know we will never know, of course. You know what I mean, official to him because he successfully plays racially ambiguous. Okay, I'll take that from you see, on your teenage daughters wall. Yeah. White male. I saw a poster. And you didn't particularly care for black

people. You wouldn't be triggered by that. But he's just black enough where he can say certain words and do certain things and get a pass. All right, he passed and he's totally passive. Okay, so we have to ask ourselves, why are they charged so hard witness people of color thing, especially in 2020. It's because black people have seen we have very few allies. And an example of that is Tavis bomb, and he's gonna explain how black America lost ground under Obama.

This week. While we were traveling in Iowa, we spoke with Mr. Smiley about what's changed over the last decade. As Martin Luther King Day approaches on Monday. We started by talking about what areas if any, are better for black American now than they were before Barack Obama took office. I'm sad to report that in every single leading economic category, black America has lost ground over the last decade in every major

economic category, we've lost ground. So this book comes out as you said in 2006, so clearly If this book was out before Obama shows up to win 2008. So the book was never about Barack Obama then this 10 year update is not about him now. But it is true that over these last 10 years, most of that on his watch black America has lost ground and the major economic indicator categories. Is this an old

clip of Tavis Smiley? Yes. 2016. That was gonna say, because, you know, he got fired, and he was eliminated from the airwaves with all kinds of sketchy allegations. Because he was not he was not on board. Well, he was white ball way longer before that. When he hit him and Dr. Cornel West, Cornel West pushed me questioning Obama early into his administration. First term, yeah, but then after that, then we got me too. And they nailed him for that too on something very Yeah, they were just waiting.

They were just waiting lists specious stepped out of line. But this goes to show you that not only have black people been skeptical, skeptical of other groups, were skeptical of people that even look like us. So now you're trying to make this hodgepodge coalition where you're like, No, and that's why the term Athos or financial black or native black really popped off is because people of American lineage black people, American lineage is looking for identity of their own. Because

like, we don't have any allies. How do you go backwards? And in every category, under the first black president, how does that even happen? And if you don't have the answer, Tavis does, what accounts for the fact that less than that? So little progress, or indeed, the backside of what accounts for that going on? Under the the leadership of the first African American president? Why don't we explain that? I think there are a few things into your question, how do we

explain it? I don't know. I think the historians are going to have a very difficult time trying to juxtapose how in the era of the first black president, the bottom fell out for black America, that's gonna be a hard juxtaposition to make up to me around to read what their account is for why they think that happened. But my research and this text suggest a

few things in no particular order. Number one, there was too much deference to the President by black people, we got so caught up in the symbolism that we didn't press hard enough on the substance. And so symbolism does matter. I just think substance matters as well. And so there was too much deference in some part, to the President on the part of black people, black leaders were sidelined in silence too often in favor of an invitation to the White House. And so more could have been done

in terms of pressing an agenda. You look at the gay and lesbian community. Look at the environmental movement course Wall Street gets everything they want, but look at what other communities gained over the last decade. And look how black America wasn't just stagnant, but indeed lost ground over the last 10 years in part one, because we were too deferential. I have to step in here for a second. This is because all of

America and the world was hypnotized by the media. And it has not stopped the hypnosis continues on no matter what side of the political spectrum you're on. You're being hypnotized at this moment, and you're being mulch through a machine continuously. So it's not really like anyone's at fault. And this is why I'm always against the media pretty much just like, Yeah, whatever you'd say, and it's good, I'm not going to trust it. And whatever you say, is bad. I'm not going to trust

it. And we've seen that go two different ways with two different presidents. So that's number one. Second of all, I'm asking you Mo, how was this measured? How do you measure when it's easy to say, black America lost ground under Obama? What are the criteria that are measured that that determines that that you're aware of?

Well, average average income, that's when the racial gap or racial wealth gap really started to pick up as a talking point, not not in a negative way of a talking point, but just a conversational? Hey, like everybody else is because we came out it just back up a little bit. We came out of 2008. And every Tuesday at 2008. Everybody kind of like bottomed out, right. Everybody was at an all time low, you know, and then

we started seeing people come out of that great recession. And black people's financial situation stay stagnant. Right. So what we're talking about is wage income level. I presume unemployment. Yes. And then just what Obama back he was very friendly to the LGBT community. He was no i understand that but I just want to look at the measurements because what? And just the way I see it Trump is running on. And I don't know if it's true. I mean, I don't believe any of

these numbers. I don't believe anything, actually. Right? Yeah, he's running on record unemployment, low unemployment

for black Americans. And he does segregate them out. You know, it's like Latinos, he doesn't say, minorities, people of color, etc. He says black Americans, Latino Americans, Asian Americans, which is also lumping a lot of people in wages, I believe have increased probably a little bit, but I do know that certainly in Texas, the lower income, there's a lot more lower income jobs, I think it's kind of like Scud running, you know, you're, you're just below the you're just just able

to keep your head above water with with one gig. So how is that recognize or does does anyone give a shit? Like, okay, Obama didn't do this? Here's a guy saying he did it, I presume since there's no pushback that it must be some version of it must be true. Let's revisit what the expectation was. Oh. Well, yeah. Are you in the Obama expectation or the Trump expectation that no that Obama? both Yeah, okay. Because you have to

compare him. The Obama spyness. For the new listeners, the expectation was, we will be patient with you for the first four years. And then once you're reelected, that's when you will go crazy with Japan and your telephone, making things happen. And better for black people was the pen and the telephone taken as a signal by by black Americans. That's it. Now we've now now Brock's gonna do it. No, really? I mean, not literally, no, but it was I got

my pin and telephone. So you do have it, though. There's no, you said it. Your opinion, your telephone, okay, get it to work. And then you pick the hills that he picked to die on run? I'm sorry, just stay on this. But it's interesting to me. What was what what does that mean? Like we want? Just give me give me a higher wage or do something that creates more jobs? Or what what was the expectation that he would do with this pen? Well, what I'm talking about the mind controlled one, what do people

really what were they told to believe? And what did they buy into? Well, even just bringing up the conversation of reparations, he could have started that right ever mentioned. Being stronger on illegal immigration, which he did deport more people than any other president. But he was I mean, he spoke out of both sides, his mouth. That was one thing, right? And like I said, the last two years when he really chose to transgender bathrooms. Yeah, it's like, dude, whatever you do, and what

are you into? That's your business. But I'm just saying, as a politician, which in one does have a point, what I'm explaining is how we got to the point where we're at right now, when you chose that initiative, over, say, a reparations with I think reparations is more tolerable than transgender bathrooms. Yeah, that that that was the icing on the cake. And it was like, wow, like, we really have no allies, and people started becoming realized they were duped. Yeah.

So and Michelle was supposed to be the backstop. She was one positive been in the White House like I brought you. I know you're not one of us. But the kids? Literally almost. Yeah, of course they are. Yes, exactly. So that's how we got to them. All right. All right. So all right. So I'm gonna let Tavis finish wrapping up.

Number two, clearly, there was indifference. There's no doubt about the fact that this President received the kind of headwind that no presidents ever received, there was clearly obstructionism so that that's a factor as well. But the third factor, I think, I would put as a question, I think, again, historians would debate this for years to come. Did Barack Obama not get enough done on black issues because he was obstructed? Or did he not try hard enough? Did he not do

enough? And I think the answer is clearly both. We'll see where the historians come down on that. But this book, again, is not about him, per se. It's about where black America is 10 years after that text. And again, it's just not a happy report. There are pockets of progress. But across the board, we've regressed now, but however, in the podcast industry, there's progress. Yes, we're part cast in an all time high. He gave us plenty to talk about. Yes, for sure. So,

fast forward. Now we're living in Trump's America is 2020. Your specifically your foundational blacks are eight or so native blacks are what's the word I want to use disengaged? As far as voting is concerned. So you have all these media outlets and pro Democrat. Entities trying to stimulate the black vote. No, no, no, activate. No, no, no, no. Black debate. Oh. Overruled. Overruled. And that's actually a GIF. or gif or how you want to pronounce

it. Yeah. Black Desert. Oh. It will be black debate. So we have device brown and black summit that happened on MLK Day. Yes. I saw some of this. Some of it was very funny. To me for hours. They candidates. Yeah. Well, I didn't watch it all. But I did see a number of clips. I thought it was pretty, pretty funny. Mayor Pete didn't did it for me. So what I will say I did like the format better than the family few lined them all up kind of Oh,

totally. This makes so much more sense. And I think the advice and the advice is basically vice media and I know Tom Freston I know, you know, he really commercialized it. It's an advertising agency and they create content around it. And I think they did a very good job on this and I think they served a very important community. The questions were kind of MTV ish briefs or boxers to some extent but we're gonna cover that we're gonna cover all right, I shall get the in the back seat again.

What I will say is this just if I had to suggest something device, do a bracket. They should have had some kind of scoring system. Yeah, to candidates face off, and then they move to the next round to the next round. gamify it a bit. Yeah, I agree. That's that because for four hours? Yeah, the third hour came when I was on 1.25 speed and I was like, God, am I gonna make it?

But it was it. It was definitely biased. And example of that is the intro for Mr. Andrew Yang. Our next guest is self described entrepreneur Andrew Yang, who represents a community that's often ignored in national politics, Asian Americans, the fastest growing racial group in the country. But how does Andrew Yang wants to be seen? He's got a pretty big group of supporters and that includes conservatives.

She sat down with Tucker Carlson on Fox News. She posts with supporters wearing Magga hats, and conservative pundit Ben Shapiro has called them quote my boy, Yang has taken pride in his ability to win over disaffected Trump supporters. And some Democrats have even suggested that strategy may be the best route to the White House. Let's give it up for Andrew Yang. Wow, man, he was wearing Magga hat people Oh my goodness.

Talking to Tucker Carlson. What was he thinking and then trying to get Republican vote? Oh, this crazy that's not that's strategy. Oh, I'm democratic of you. Andrew Yang the other the other party to vote for you. That's madness. You know, Andrew Yang I couldn't I don't like his actual idea of the of the Freedom check whatever your $1,000 a month because he wants to pay for it with value added tax. But otherwise, he seems like a pretty decent guy. You know,

he's certainly smart. But he didn't actual policies are just dumb. And she's like, No Pass. I lived in Europe. No, thanks. He's smart. And he's funny. Yeah, and by the way he's saying an Asian person is smart of course can be deemed racist. You know that right? Yeah, math is racist too. So we got to be very careful here we're trying to marry very good deal Yeah, exactly. Oh, but yeah. From just just personality he's a cool dude. I'm not in the Yang gang. Yeah, me like I told you I'm not

voting. What if he was smart enough? He gives spin that $1,000 As a tangible Yeah, interesting idea. Yeah, yeah, it's a will give certain groups have been, like 2500 You know, the counter? I like your book that's above 50% No, no, no, no, no, we gotta just negotiable. It has to be something in this specific for us. Lift. Yeah, that's a great idea is it and for reparations, and you can actually make the whole class society right there. Hey, you

know, we got some brown people. We'll give you a little extra to he little bump for you. Not as much. Not as much as our angels. Yeah. 25%. You know, here you go. But if you're listening, just saying. But we've seen that they've already Lambu Yang is friendly to the Republicans. Yeah, but it doesn't stop there. Andrew Yang and W S. So you're unique among the entire field, in that you have had a bunch of white supremacist who just have decided somehow

that you're their guy. Now, this is it's different dealing with this as a candidate dealing with it as a president. So how does a president Andrew Yang deal with the issue of white supremacy in America? Do they have any backup for that? Or like the here's a picture of you with the kk k or, or any just he just told you in the intro, he took a picture with people Magga hats. Oh, I'm sorry. Oh, yes, of course. I'm so stupid. Of course, those are the white supremacist. I got shut them

down. I got you. This. This is the association here. It's like, you know, they set it up in the intro. And what I did here, I didn't really clip any answers. Because that's not what I wanted to do. No. I'm aware of what you do. And I like it. I want to focus on the questions, not the answers, right. Oh, so yeah, you took pictures. Tucker, you want to talk to Tucker? He definitely. He's a non supremacist Nazi.

So I mean, what are we talking about here? I mean, like, it's clear, it's a clear lot of you know, connection between the white supremacist and yang. But it doesn't stop there. The double down? I mean, I just okay, because I want to back up because I want to point out that I started off with a question about white supremacy and dealing with that which this is something you've said is a problem in America. But we ended up with talking

about handing people money. I mean, does handing people money fix racism? Wow, yes, jet that isn't that the whole idea of reparations? Who was this phony asking the questions this this young man needs to be schooled? Isn't that the whole point of saying if you closed the wet racial wealth gap? Video put people on equal fair ground? fair playing ground? Yes, yes. Money will solve the problem. Money solves 90.9 9.9% of the problems. Yes. I'm being

facetious, but that's a dumb question. It's like what will the gang at least answer it somewhat? intelligently? Or did he just kind of waffle around? Well, I think he was smart enough to see he walked into a trap. Yeah. Cuz he couldn't bite as the guy said, just in the clip we just listened to. Yeah. out the gate. out of the gate. Oh, yes. All you white supremacist like Yang.

And people wonder people wonder why politicians enjoy going on the Joe Rogan show and why people enjoy watching politicians on the Joe Rogan show because all of that bullshit is stripped away. All of it, and this is vice and they stuck. Okay, it's it's changing by the time you are kids, your kids. Certainly, by the time they're grown up, it'll be better podcasters will be in control.

Yes. So there was a question from the crowd. And this was like one of the best questions of the night because it actually was based in some kind of fact and not feeling Latino top priorities. Welcome. Good afternoon, Mr. Yang. Welcome to see you. Thanks. Thanks. It's good to see you again. Latinos polled. The 2016 presidential election, stated that their top voting

priorities were education and the economy. Currently, nearly two thirds of Latino students end up in under underserved community colleges, and second tier public universities, and only a small percentage attend one of the most elite colleges, according to the Georgetown Center on Education and the Workforce. Today our economy is strong for the most fluent in our society. But Latinos make up nearly 30% of the total pipeline

shouldn't live in poverty. What is your plan to deliver sufficient resources for are struggling committed to colleges and universities? And secondly, how do we address the racial disparities in our economy for brown and black communities? Thank you. Yeah, that's my favorite. brown and black communities. It's kind of like any cause that he had. It's my favorite book with that. Yeah, no, it's that's my favorites. Like, we're the black and brown communities. Well, they're those teepees over

there. And some tiny homes over there. That's black and brown clearly labeled. Yeah. So they had and this was a that was a great question, by the way. Um, and it came from one of the people in the crowd. So I mean, that just lets you know is like, but the top priorities wasn't kids in cages. The top priority wasn't immigration. You see what you see what everybody else and the other groups are financially minded. Schools money, yeah, education. You make

more money. Yeah. Not kids in cages not you know that. What the talking points is supposed to be? Yeah. So it's like, whoa, top priorities? That's not what I've been told. Latino top priorities are? What what that's not in the polling numbers. Yes. So the X um, and I got a little ahead of myself, but the X Jiang about black people, and then their health and things of that nature. And he said that the reason why Black people are so stressed is because they don't have finance, the finances

lead to stress, which is true. And if you provide them with finances, then that will take away some of the stress which is common sense. But there you have it, but I didn't want to use that clip because I'm trying to stay there and to only using the questions that the candidates are asked right and not use this as a as a no trying to sway people one way or the other candidate. You're showing the top choices here on the show. Well, some of them some of the most helmets are top choice. Interesting

choice. Interesting people. We're still making an entertainment show here. Yeah, very well done. Well done. Mo apps. You got it, my man, you got it. Alright, so um, they had the thing called Speed Round. Right? And this is where in one minute, ask the candidate as many questions as possible and see what they can answer. So we're going to listen to and you're Andrew Yang speed round. All right. If you could be invisible, what would be the first thing you do

eavesdrop on the other candidates. spook. Fill in the blank. Allow me to reintroduce myself. My name is Humpty Dumpty. What was your worst job? busboy at a Chinese restaurant? I didn't qualify to be a waiter because my Chinese sorry, y'all don't. Okay, Jordan, Jordan or LeBron Jordan but LeBron could pass it was the last time you smoked weed. Past life what's the last TV show you binge watched? I watched this is

us with my wife. What's your biggest fear that we don't eradicate poverty in the time we have. What's the topic that you're embarrassed that you don't know more about? It's a great question. Geez, soccer and Jay and Jay Z lyrics I guess so. So how to miss a new vote Wow, I'm gonna be gonna be president. Yeah, he's the cloud. Like, well, obviously, China man can't know about Jay Z lyrics are silent on what that was all about. That was kind of lame. And if you notice their basketball, yes. Like

it. We've seen a trend here. You know, that's that's what really cares at the moment isn't at the moment. You're supposed to say I got hot sauce in my bag. Isn't that isn't that his biggest fear of running out of hot sauce? That's the biggest fear. Yeah, if you want to pander, right, I mean, pandering one on one, but he didn't pander there. No, he didn't. He said Humpty I'm like I'm gonna say he knew it was like a rap lyric when he could only fill in that one rapper he knew is like, yeah,

I got this. He might have been ready for that one. I have a feeling that was very, very quick. Yeah, that was quick, but he just got it like didn't deliver on the edge. Hear there? Well, so, of course. So that was Andrew Yang. And we're gonna see a trend here with the speed round. We're gonna see, I'm just gonna pointed out to people, the less favorable candidates get tougher questions and the speed round. The people that they kind of like, get easier, easy

questions, and just just just pay attention to that. Just a little. Just want to foreshadow that a little bit. But next up is Liz Warren. Um, and she was very boring. only really got one. I want to know her pitch. Yeah. So the one question that I did find interesting, they asked her was about HBCUs. And another thing that you propose to do with that money is give $50 billion dollars to historically black colleges and universities. Yeah, I like the fact that you're excited about that. I

went to an HBCU Prairie View a&m University. So it sounds great, but it also sounds like it's too good to be true. You know. And so the question is, is, when it gets hot for you, and you need to compromise on some things, how do we know for sure that that will end up on the cutting room floor, and I'll just kind of put the point a little even further, which is like, the pander radar goes off a little bit. This is a

well crafted plan that's gonna play well, in the primaries. But once we get to the nomination, once we get to you in office is the first thing. So here's, here's my, here's my question. Is a plan is a plan a promise? So? Oh, wow. Yeah. Man. Like, hey, welcome, Elizabeth Warren, you suck. Okay. So let me ask you a question about why do you suck. And that's that was pretty interesting. And what I found interesting was that the black guy was asking a

question about HBCU. Right. And then the brown guy chimed in, like, Hold on, let me clarify a question for you. Yeah, just the case is, you know, just in case you can't follow along, let me Oh, interesting that you took it that way, is exactly how I took it. I mean, we can go back and listen to like maybe the last 30 seconds of it. That's when he kind of goes to jumps, and it takes it from let's do

that. Second, last 30 seconds about here just kind of put the point a little even further, which is like that will end up on the cutting room floor. And I'll just kind of put the point a little even further, which is like, the panda radar goes off a little bit. This is a well, is this a white guy? Brown, well crafted plan that's going to play well in the primaries. But once we get to the nomination, once we get to you in office is the first thing he hits. So here's here's my here's

my question. Is a plan is a plan a promise? Yeah. Yes. I mean, I didn't I don't know the dynamics of those two. I don't know. I don't know. But it could. My bias. My bias, but that was, it was a question about HBCUs. You might want to let the black guy ask you especially about pandering. Oh, yeah, again, yes, I agree. But I really don't know the dinette, you may be a little sensitive there. Maybe I am. I'll admit to that. So I'm i I'm represented by Elizabeth Warren. So you know,

like, who gets the right deal here? Are you know, I didn't know you were Native American. Yeah, yep. Yep. Yep. Yeah. All right. So Liz Warren, we're gonna get to her speed round. Oh, goody. So we're going to test you to see how many questions you can answer in 60 seconds. Okay. Are you up for the challenge? I am totally up for this challenge. Do you all think she's up for this? I mean, different milks. Can you name? milk, oat milk. Well, cow's milk, almond milk, soy milk, coconut milk.

Chocolate milk. Nella milk and strawberry milk. I'm sorry. The correct answer was powdered milk. What's that? Seven. Okay, what's the biggest trouble you ever got into in school? Oh, in school. Most of my trouble was out of school. Things trouble I ever got into in school was talking back to what is Black Twitter. Good. What's your favorite? What's your favorite Indian? Oh, this is like big tapioca. Do you know the stuff I'm talking about? You serve it with darling. It's song I'm not sure.

Senator Elizabeth Warren. Good to meet you. Man. So Black Twitter's good. Now I thought that was a good time. It was it was tight, tight, tight, tight. It was Yeah. But when she was asked, What's your favorite web app just for clarity. The guy that was interviewing core interviewing with the black guy was Indian. When she when he asked, What's your favorite Indian food was? I was sure she was gonna say maize. Yeah. Actually, I was thinking the same thing. It's just happened

to me the other day. Or maybe I saw a clip of it. It was Family Feud. And the question is, what kind of food do you eat? Does Popeyes eat or something like that? And my wife and my, my mind went to chicken. And the woman answered chicken. But of course it's spinach is like you're going into these weird brain conditions. So I thought that was a little trick question at the end like hell yeah. Oh, yeah. Like yeah, like yeah, you both to come with it. But that's my point. That's my point. She

should have said maize. Or, you know, what else is? Native? venison. Buffalo. I know. That's one of the traditional Thanksgiving foods but Oh, and it what's funny is she's contributed to Indian cookbooks. Oh, yeah. Well, what you stole those recipes, too? She dropped the ball on that one. Yeah, exactly. Alright, so next up is Mayor Pete. Yay, everybody, Wall Street Pete the spook and listen to this compound question they asked him ask him.

And this is really an example of the problem with having these coalition's you released a mental health care plan with a focus on addiction and deaths of despair. So I want to ask you about two key groups at risk. A recent study found that from 2001 to 2017, the rate of death by suicide for black boys ages 13 to 19, increased by 60%. The rate for black girls 182%. A separate study found that over half of trans male participants had attempted suicide at some point in their lives, just under

30% of trans women. What do you think is behind those numbers? And what exactly will your plan do for black children? And trans people specifically? Wow, I mean, that's just an exercise and how dumb are you would prioritize prioritizing things? Black Girls 150% black boys 30% 60%. And then, I guess trans can it can neither be boy nor girl. But that was 30%. And so specifically, let's talk about trans. Where see what there. Do you see this bait and switch or this?

And the guy did at the end like black and brown thought at the end? Yeah, now is I'm asking about black child suicide. But let me throw. That's not interesting enough. Nobody cared about black dead children. Due to suicide. We add spices up with trans. What? Yeah, yeah, that's right, that well, that that is Vice media should be ashamed of themselves for that ashamed. And she even said two groups. Two groups do black. Gosh, okay. She's just read

that which test? I didn't know those numbers. And that's scary. That is that scare? I think you'll find that. Sadly, the numbers are very similar for white kids. White girls, I don't know if it's 150%. But it's it's off the charts. Same for white white boys. In a lot of the girls, a lot of it is social media, Instagram, the boys. I would say hopelessness. I don't know. A lot of times, I totally agree with you. I would if I had to bet on what

the root cause was. It would definitely be social media. Yeah, a lot of it. I'm just going to show you how in a question. You start off with it's a black person's ears perk up like, wow, I black children committed suicide at those rates. And it's like, well, let me slice something in under that. Yeah. So much something much more important. Yes, not more. Yeah. Nobody cares about dead black children. But Mayor Pete And I'm gonna say this. They don't like Mayor Pete.

That seems to be the message. That is that the media is portraying that, Pete, that no one has a chance to like Pete the media is telling everybody, no black people like be. Yep. And you'll hear it. It was so bad. It made me cringe. With this next one, you brought up maternal mortality, which I want to follow up on a member of our audience actually just asked a

question about that. What kind of President do about the fact that when you actually drill down in the data, a lot of what appears to be happening is purely individual racist incidents of a white doctor, looking at a black woman on a table and saying, I'm just not going to work as hard for you today? And coming into the room with some stereotypes? How do you legislate against that? How do you fight that from the Office of the President?

Was this? Was this an example of something that happened in real life? I don't know. I haven't heard of it. She just she just made this up as an example. Just he grabbed this one. How do you answer that question? First of all, like you can't, well, I'm going to walk through it is like, Yeah, I'm gonna turn on the the mind control beam and fix everybody's

head. Wow. These are the type of question they asked Peter, ma'am, no, Pete fan, but I'm like, wow, like is what the question itself was a white doctor walks in, and he does not, I don't care, you might want to find another doctor named St. percent. And, you know, vice is is a part of the machine. I mean, this, this is not fair by any standard. And, and they have their mindset. I mean, that's probably why the I guess what we're missing is Joe Biden, and Bernie Sanders. That's why

they're so boring. Because they've probably had no substantial questions. Ask them and, and nothing, you know, nothing to hit him with. Like, I don't think we got to like these to go. Joe Biden got the soft softness of soft balls. So it was me I couldn't even clip his speed round. It was so bad. Because it's elder abuse. Yeah, Joe is just some people are. Don't just start losing a little bit at that age. And I'm not losing it. But he's, you know, he's confusing stuff. And so

they no go easy on him because you confuse him. That's so sad. And one of the questions that asked, Oh, just to give you a speed round was, What food do you like, the other people don't like? That's another. Wow. Yeah. Elizabeth Warren question. How many meals came in? Yeah. How many mills? I mean, like, that's a good like 30 seconds of the heart speed round. I mean, they didn't want them to get in any any trouble. But well, the correct ones. The correct answer, of course, is

collard greens, rice and beans. I mean, that is the correct answer is Mayor Pete should answer if that question comes up. Yes. But they asked him another question. Where Pete speed round I saw this if Antonia and I invited you to a potluck or barbecue? What are you bringing? Oh is it a breakfast potluck? It's gonna be chips and salsa. Flying or teleportation? Flying because you never know what's gonna be the same you that gets

you messing up the short answer. But do you prefer your grid sugar, salt or cheap cheese? What are some of the blackest cities in America? Like by population? Yeah, just list off a couple. New Orleans, Washington DC. That's why Washington DC ought to be a state by the way with the senator. Not good at short answer. Go ahead. What's on you know all the words to Star Spangled Banner? Where did MLK go to college? Or else? Yes, thankfully. What will be the largest minority voting bloc this election?

People with disabilities are audiobooks reading if you if you bought my own ladies, gentlemen. Wow, I mean, most will just say Are you a racist or not? Popeyes a Chick fil A racism at races. Which that was a trap. No kidding. He lost no matter what he chose pandering if you say if you say Popeyes, white supremacist Hitler. If you say Chick fil A No, no, no. What? deeper than that? Oh, gosh. You're anti LGBT?

Of course. Of course. Of course. I'm sorry. I need to remember. I needed I need a flowchart. Yeah, so they re tried to walk him right I have never been inside a Popeye's if I had $1,000. No, now, you're right. I'm sure he's never been. I will say if he just said chick Play campaign over. Yeah, absolutely. And saying, oh my god, I forgot he's gay, too. I forgot that part. He went against his own people. He almost did. He was on the fence for a second there. Wow. I think it was

pretty slow on the calculations. I think that alone disqualifies him from being president. It took them too long to do that calculation. I mean, especially in today's social justice world. You got to do that fast, man. You got to be on the fly. You got to know who you're pandering to at any moment. But once again, let's go back to the question grits. Fried chicken. Basketball, right? I like the potluck or barbecue. Elbow barbecue? Yeah, the

correct answer was, you invited me to the barbecue. That is the correct answer to that question. Right. I'll be glad to bring anything if you invite me to the cookout. Exactly. Peak contact this week, we have these captions to your questions. That's right, we can hook you up for the next time. Don't rely on IBM Watson. It's Mo and that's Mona. Yes. So to wrap it up, they had Bernie Sanders. And really all

of Bernie Sanders really was focused on immigration. So let's get into the first immigration clue. Let's move on to immigration. Good. You have a truly comprehensive, large, very detailed immigration plan more so I think than any other candidate in this race. I think that needs to be recognized. But you haven't had to talk about it very much. We're about to talk about it some more. So let's start with the wall. The idea for Trump's border wall didn't

come out of nowhere. It's the logical result of many decades of both Republicans and Democrats spending billions and billions of dollars on border security that includes close to 700 miles of fencing. You've been very clear that you oppose any additional funding for a border wall. But would you go further? Will you tear down the wall? Yeah, I saw this. I saw this question. That seems like a no, no. When question is well, because it's

like, yeah, like open borders? Well, no, if that's how I interpreted it, question. Yeah, that's exactly what it is. Because if you were to say, Well, I mean, I know, I know why we answered that. And he was like, well, it doesn't cost a billion dollars to tear down and I could put that money somewhere else. That's my Bernie. Thank you. Very, thank you. Yeah, that was a trick question. This thing was set. So the only person that they went easy. The only person they went easy on

was Joe Biden. So he's the guy he's the man. And well, Elizabeth Warren as well. Well, that was still gave her some some heavy questions. Maybe I mean, jump out is their guy. But I mean, if they had to have a setback, because they couldn't go harder, Liz Warren because she's a woman. Yeah. Can't do that. I mean, and she's a woman of color. Let's be honest. She is. So they can tell you ask Bernie about immigration. I'm actually I'm happy you bring that up. Senator, sorry to

interrupt you. But that's precisely what I wanted to ask. Ask you about. You've promised a moratorium on deportations the moment you take office. Yeah. I want to make sure I understand what that means. That means once you are president no one. Well, I know it's while you conduct an audit of the immigration system. That's correct. And you know, I'm not going to tell you here if somebody has been convicted of a terrible, terrible crime, that may be the exception to the rule.

So you are so in my understanding, that's not what a moratorium means. Well, a moratorium is that there will be no deportations. There may be some a few exceptions. Now, you know, you can quibble about it. But a moratorium on deportations for the 99% of the people is nothing to be cynical about. Now, you did play some of his answer, which you didn't do for the other candidates. So that wasn't entirely fair in the in our bracket system.

The reason why I had to do that was was the push back. He's not going to deport anybody. Yeah. So criminals, hardened criminals. Thing is no one actually used those words. And that was not enough. It's like whoa, what are you saying about hardened criminals? I got to keep them a martyr. I can't clip it any other way to keep that. I had to keep that. I understand. And then to hear him walk back like, well, we could look at keeping murderers in. I mean, yeah, I'm flexible.

Yeah. Best nuts. It's nuts. It's crazy, because it's like, but the thing that is nuts is that I think that these candidates, you know, this is I'm getting inside their head, but just knowing a little bit about how stuff, you know, to stop for them. Okay. All right. Let's go get some blacks. All right. Skirt skirt, here we go. And then they just, I don't even think they prepare that well. I think they should revise. They were like, Oh, well, this is?

Yeah, it was like, hey, no, we give us a can't because can't answer. Is that a streaming app? What is that advice? Is a streaming? to No, of course. Yeah, it gets around. It gets around me. I saw it on YouTube course. But you know, it's on HBO and all that stuff? No, but I think they see it as minor. But I just wanted to point out that, and this is the reason why I also kept that in here, because this is gonna sell the

final portion of the show. Immigration is always going to be a sticking point between the black and the brown. Yes. Well, and I think a lot of the Brown is the legal Brown also wants to slow it down. This, this is very true. And I will totally agree with you that a decent portion of Hispanics are anti immigration, what they can't say, Well, I've helped a couple people, I've helped a lot of people with the with immigration. Because I've done it. I've done it a

couple times. And my Mexican friends whom of which one will become an American citizen next year, she's eligible. They're like, Hey, man, because I know I asked all the time, what's going on? What are you hearing around? What are you hearing around? And they say, well, everybody, first of all, everyone's got jobs. And we know everyone. You know, we won't really say that. We like what Trump's doing with immigration, but we like what he's doing with immigration. That's what I hear. In Austin.

So that's not representative representative everything, of course. And a large portion of black people feel the same way because a lot of white immigrants. So the white people trust me. So illegal immigration. And the benefits of black people run counter to each other, because I'm just gonna lay out two examples here. And then we'll we'll get into the last set of

clips. But one, when you bring up this kids in cages, and you can't separate parents from their children, whether this empathy and sympathy when you were having a war on drugs. Yeah, well, this is just a sentiment is like, Where was that where it was now a kid with on in foster care. And Families were torn apart due to the war on drugs. But now all of a sudden, we have a conscious for non citizens.

Right? So I just want to answer that for maybe people who are new to this, of course, it's all political, and kids in cages, it even the alliteration of it kids in cages is great television, it makes for a great political point. Much better than I mean, clearly, showing drug addicts and homeless people isn't working politically. Otherwise, I wouldn't be doing something about it. So you know, it's kids in cages, kids think of the children in cages. What?

True, but the problem is when you look at how families were separated during the war on drugs, and now how it's just the ultimate sand to separate families. That's one thing and then to when you look at, like these caravans and all this bad where you're at, you can just move somewhere else, and they're not held to any standard of the law. No, no one is above the law in America except the illegal immigrant. Right? And then you have black people is probably one of the

most oppressed groups by the law. And then you want to merge these two groups together into some kind of political coalition. It just is not going to work. It's not going to work and you don't have to believe me So now we got we got burning speed round which I'm sure he can only do one question because he can't answer anything shortly. Let's see him try 60 seconds you as many questions as possible, and you can get a pass but no one has passed. So I suggest you you don't or you

will be judged harshly. Are you ready? I am ready. What is your biggest insecurity? Saying something dumb? What was your laughing What was your first job? And how much did it pay? My first job was carrying soda bottles from a warehouse to the to a truck. And it paid this a long time ago obviously it paid pretty well and I learned out that it was a Teamster operation lays in and that was my first introduction to unions that I've liked them ever since.

was the first candidate you voted for maybe Kennedy got one sweaty on that one night, man. What's the worst job you've ever had? I I put carpets with all kinds of smelly disgusting glue which kills people I think but you know, a lot of good years. And last question is out of the 60 seconds was that torturous for you to try to come up with short answers? To votes? Thank you, Senator. Senator.

Wow. Doesn't even wear hair doesn't even end. And you could actually probably ask Bernie Sanders some complicated questions. I think he's an intellectual, I think it would come up with some answers. But instead, if you were a tree, what country would you be? I mean, this is crazy. So you see the pecking order by the round question. That's why I included them. So what I want to get into because people might not believe me that even though Black people coexist with Latino

people and communities. That's not the issue what I'm talking about because we can coexist our culture's somewhat bland in some ways, but when it comes to politics, politics I'm talking here. They don't mesh well. As we were hitting this next clip, when one black female tries to equate slavery to illegals, so I mean, I don't know if you identify as African American I

do. But if you dropped me off in Africa Wow, the language I speak I wouldn't I wouldn't speak the language I wouldn't have any cultural ties to the continent have cultural ties to it's not the same because he was why isn't it he wasn't raised because I was born ties my ancestors I can trace them were brought over here on slave ships we helped build the she was brought George. Wait, don't buy slavery to Eleague on here not by choice. I think my right but my ancestors didn't say let me

jump on the boat. Let me die from the leader does mind get when when didn't either? Come on, Kelly Come on. It's not the same argument. Yes, no cultural ties to the country in which he was born old way to labor, children, cultural tie liberally to the country to come here. Now, where was this? Who was arguing here? Do you know that this was CNN? I don't have the two pundits names. Do you hear that nasty little trick that pro immigration woman did

today? Anti immigration woman what she say? is like the first 10 seconds if you just want to hear it and you want to play the whole clip. Just listen to the first 10 seconds. Yeah, hold on one second. One second. One second. Yeah, let me make this clear. These are clearly two black women. I mean, I don't know if you identify as African American ideal, but if you dropped me off in Africa, like wow, the

language I speak I wouldn't I wouldn't speak the language. I wouldn't have any cultural ties to the continent. Okay. She asked her where she black. I don't know if you identify as a black woman. I see what you're saying. Was this and again, so I mean, I don't know if you identify as African American ideal, but if you dropped me off in Africa, wow. The language I speak. I wouldn't I wouldn't speak the language. I wouldn't have any cultural ties to the continent. I don't have cultural

ties. The whole the whole conversation hurts my brain. It does. But yeah, this is this is what happens when you don't take the Democrat party line. They may start to question your blackness. Yeah. So I don't know. I don't know if you got it clearly the woman's black. Clearly, and she's I don't know if you identify as African American or not. And the lady's like, oh, wow, like you're really going there. Yeah, yeah. Well, she go there. Yes, she did go there. But that's just one

example. And the question. Trying to use the equivalent of slavery to illegals is a lose the argument all day? Yeah. Because how black people see it. We had no choice coming here. If you think America is this terrible place, why are you coming here? I mean, actually, since that's just the sentiment is like, I don't understand it. Yeah, so it's such a haven to white supremacy, but you want to come here. So it just doesn't

make any sense. But another show favorite Dr. Claude Anderson, I have a couple of clips from him speaking on minorities and immigration. And the reason that's important is because all these other groups coming in now they classify this as fabricated groups and classes, they are eating your lunch. All the things that should have been going to you they are getting them. There is no end point being at this point. Now, down here. When you get to benign neglect, at the bottom in 1970.

There is no, absolutely no constitutional or legal reason to help Hispanics, Arabs, Asian Eskimos, women, gays, midgets, hop back legend, one i crippled DOM people into affirmative action program, you make a joke out of black folks. Because what you're doing is giving the pretense that all of a sudden that all things are equal, that somehow those people are mistreated as badly as black folk work. That's a lie. You add insult to injury, to use these very broad terms to put black

folk in those broad categories. Do not let anybody put you in any broad categories. Yep. Well, how long ago was this? This was probably 2012. I believe, man. Where's everybody now? Oh, he's still out there. Actually. He was all hot. 97 Oh, really? Not too long ago. Charlemagne seven years? Yeah. So he's getting airtime now. But we've had him on the show over the coming as clips, pushing black people not to vote as well. Yeah, we don't get anything tangible. But as he

said, I mean, firm action is for us. What they want to lump us all in these wide groups, like common people occur. A common theme. Yeah. So let's just let Dr. Anderson continue. And my people have you not learned yet to get wisdom, as the Bible says, not only get wisdom, get understanding, we don't understand the issues. You cannot go into a marketplace, or into a political arena and a very broad, ambiguous term. And when you gotta go in specifically focused on what you

are in your people. We are the only people that won't do that. Women will go into the marketplace, they are talking about women's issues, or women's rights, gays will go into the marketplace and talk about gay rights. Hispanics talk about Hispanic rights, and you're talking about Indians rights veteran was talking about veterans rights, senior status talking about senior citizens, right? You don't go into black

folks. And what are you talking about? I'm talking about civil rights, who in the world is civil, talking about your own people? Isn't fire there? Who is simple. So that's one example. Another example of just speaking on the lack of, and I'm gonna say this again, because I know some people may be getting triggered. I'm talking about the political coalition that they're trying to form. This call color people is not going to work. And these are just examples of why

it's not going to work. We have Mr. Peter Carr Chanel, Mr. Peter Carson, now he he's a lawyer. He's also a member United States. Commission on Civil Rights. He is a part time appointee served on a 66 year our six year term, no 30, serving his 36 year term as a member of the National Labor Relations Board, and he's gonna speak on activist see illegal immigration, it hurts black me and most one.

Your personnel is a member of the United States Commission on Civil Rights, who was also a candidate for president from Secretary of Labor. And he joins us now Peter, thanks for coming on. Thanks, resident. So this is this is a position you don't hear very much, but makes a kind of intuitive sense. Unpack it, if you would. What What do you mean when you say the black men in America the biggest victims of this?

Sure. Well, just to give you a bit of background, we've conducted at least three hearings over the last six years and so Rights Commission on this discrete issue. And we had a number of experts testify, we do a number a lot of information with respect to the economic impact of illegal immigration,

on low skilled workers generally. And all of the witnesses all the experts that we had, who spanned the ideological spectrum, they may or may have disagreed in terms of the degree of the impact, but all of them concurred that illegal immigration has a devastating impact on wage levels and employment levels. And it's econ 101. Tucker, when you have an oversupply of labor, the price of labor is going to be depressed. That's very interesting that you have the white supremacist

Tucker Carlson as a clip. Yeah. Yes, he's pushing his agenda. But the numbers don't lie. That's right. And you're probably wondering why this guy is not making bigger news with these facts that he's sharing. And he's gonna explain why. I don't even know if the counter argument to what you just said is it seems obvious, it's clearly true. Has anyone told the Congressional Black Caucus? Yeah, I have at least three occasions, and probably more we did is immediately after reducing some of this, this

evidence. And it's profound, because we're talking about a I think it's a 40 point 40% of the 18 point decline in labor force participation rates among black males is attributable to the oversupply of illegal immigration, labor competing

with them. So we're talking about at the very low end, hundreds of 1000s of blacks losing jobs, probably if you do the math, up to 1.2 million blacks losing jobs, this has significant obviously, impacts on the black community, got in touch with Congressional Black Caucus sent them detailed information on this, ask them to do something about it to respond to us to engage in this effort. My assistant repeatedly would follow up on this what we heard were crickets do the same thing

with President Barack Obama? Crickets again. He didn't really explain why though. I'm gonna say my why what? Well, why why he's getting no attention. You're trying to part the herd? Yeah. So they just ignored it. They just ignore it. No, we need we need the coalition, right? Just ignore it. The whole point of what we're doing here is just identifying. It's not about what's good for anybody. It's

not like, like you pointed out, it's tons. Not tons. But it's a sizable portion of legal Hispanics that don't like illegal immigration, right. And they're getting it forced down their throat. White Americans, same thing, black. Will people rise up against this. I mean, you know, I'm amazed. You look at France, you don't see much on the news

anymore, because we don't want to give anybody an ideas. But the yellow vests, there's, I mean, just last weekend, the weekend before, you know, one of the unions said, now we're gonna turn off the power here. We're sick and tired of this. We want someone to listen to us. They turned off the power 30,000 people without power for a couple hours. There's some real insurrection going on. I'm disappointed in America, in general, all we do is take the Twitter like a bunch of fools.

Well, the problem is when you're afraid you're gonna be labeled a racist, or, you know, of course, it's our entire system, I understand. Right? So it's like, I don't really want to rock the boat. But the problem is, with the African American black, aid office, whatever you want to call it, it feels like they're still in our birthright. And I missed a couple of these a throwback clips and and then I'll let Ted use some more. Two

more clips that he expounds on this point. We had Ted Hayes on our show before that he was speaking on how illegal immigrants are basically still in the birth rights of African Americans being joined now by Mr. Ted Hayes. He's a civil rights activist. Thank you for being with us, Mr. Hayes. So can I can I ask you about this you agree or disagree with the poll, do you think do African Americans think that illegal immigrants take jobs away from them?

Absolutely. I don't know what this other person getting that information from but I'm on the ground out here in Los Angeles. We call la occupy Los Angeles because we have lost all of our rights. Essentially, black people in LA have indemnified we can even go into neighborhoods that were once black plus three of getting shot beaten up threatened, what have you. So no, we It's not just about jobs, housing, education, health care. It's about our 14th amendment birthright that they're stealing

from us. And I don't blame the people do not blame the people. I blame my government for failing to protect us. According to the Constitution of the United States. Yes, straight up, man. And you can watch all those county meeting videos council meetings. In, in Los Angeles, cool, people are mad. And you also can watch the news and gang wars. Yep. Between between black street gangs in New Mexico street gangs. It's getting it's really bad. And he was saying in California, where

they were actually denied. I didn't. I didn't want to, I want to keep it political, but just an example. But there were firebombing people houses of so I mean, it means getting real bad out there. But I'll let Ted continue on about how they're still in our birthright. Do you agree with with President Trump then that illegal immigration hurts black citizens more than it does other Americans? Oh, there's no question about it. And not just in the physical

realm of job and housing, health care. But the whole realm of identity. For example, you've heard of anchors, and that is anchor babies, but women who come to the country illegally and have a baby, that child becomes a citizen. That is totally wrong. That belongs to hold on slaves. Hold on, you're saying that's you're talking about anchor

babies. I mean, I want to touch on that. So you are against the so called anchor babies, the babies that were born in the United States, given our Constitution, a constitutional right that those children are American citizens. So you disagree with that law? That is not the that's not true. They've twisted that it's a custom. If you please take the time. And you go to my website,

you can study Ted hayes.us. They have twisted the 14th amendment to mean them and it's not read the Civil Rights Act of 1866. Wait identifies slaves, that was who it's for. Yeah, yeah, we need to we need an amendment to clarify that I think I'm with Ted Hayes on this. I am too, because what you're doing is you're bringing in direct competition, and then it undercuts the, the salaries. Um, everybody wants to talk about why the salaries are so low, and you know,

yep. I was gonna say one of the regulations that I was reading about when we were just a week ago. Visas are not being given to anyone. Of course, that's always the case United States. But if there's a suspicion at a foreign embassy, someone requesting a visa, that they may be coming to United States to have a child and they look like they're pretty pregnant. No visa. That's and that's not really discussed right now, amidst impeachment, and Kobe and Wuhan flu and all this. Not

otherwise, believe me, it would be top of the news. It would be anything anti Trump, but that is happening. And that's probably for that's more like a general election kind of, yeah, well, there's just too much going on. But it'll it'll pop up. It'll, it'll make his way up. But this is what the Democrats don't get. This is only gonna contribute when you start arguing facts like that. You asked me a question A while back, you said about Trump and he's saying about the

unemployment numbers. Belinda black community. Trump understands the negative vote. People don't get that but he understands the negative vote he can't say Oh, stay at home because that's voter suppression. Right? Right. But he's, I'm gonna give you a reason not to come out on Tuesday. Right. And that reason is just don't don't support anyone else and I'll take care of it. Is that the idea? That's the thing and it's like, These people haven't had your

back for so long. Are you going to continue to give me your vote? And I will safely say I will be surprised if that number falls somewhere around 50% Wow. That's that would that would shatter the Democrat Party? And I'm thumbs. I'm serious, cuz I'm talking to people. I'm like, were you thinking about mail? I really don't like none of these candidates. So that's very interesting. You think that Trump in a way is playing into this space? He's not saying it but he's signaling

Hey, they've given you nothing? Don't vote I'll take care of it. You're doing better now. Don't vote for them don't vote don't vote for me. Doesn't matter don't vote at all those don't vote and it plays right into the A das I gotta pay attention I gotta pay attention that messaging see see how if he's because he's very good at subliminal stuff. So I gotta, I gotta pay attention to what he's doing there.

Oh, and before we wrap up with these last three clips, I just want to make a point make a point of this is how a Das, the group and I want to make that clear because a Das is a lineage. And that's that's what I claim American descendants of slaves. I mean African, excuse me American descendants of slavery, but a das the group they started talking about voting down ballot and man they got ran out of town. We covered this on our show because like, No, we're not voting with the

partners you understand if it's not tangible. If we don't see in our pocketbooks, we're doing just fine for the last three years. Last time I checked, we were saying, This is me speaking as a proverbial Hall. But last time I checked my phone when k is looking better than ever look right now, which is, which is part of Trump's message, right? And you look and you'll and your wife thinks you're a genius. Yeah, and job jobs are available, you can leave one job

and go to another job. It's not like you're, I'm not speaking for everybody. But if you're gainfully employed, there's opportunities. And this is just another example here. Um, wow, work. They're building a $3 billion facility. Right? There certain labor unions. None of the people speak English. Right. So these things are noticeable. I mean, I'm not knocking, but I'm just like, so if even if I wanted a job on that team, I can't because I don't speak Spanish.

Right. It's the construction industry is I mean, it's yeah, it's basically Mexican. Yeah, you locked out. I mean, you're I mean, you're locked out. Yeah. It just because of not even sanbao. Lineage or ethnicity, just the language barrier. Yeah. If I'm working with 12 other guys that speak nothing but Spanish can be dangerous. Yeah, it can be dangerous. And then they're gonna I'm gonna slow them down. So this is where this is where we're at. And these are real. These are real happenings. Yeah.

Diversity in the construction business. Where's that brown, black coalition net? Where's the trans people in construction? Maybe I don't know. Now, that's true. But I'm just saying where I am if you guys have kind of cornered the market in this in this union, you say I am and we got thought of brothers, you know, four or five spots. If there's a real coalition, I mean, that's how coalition's work right? So the brothers four or five of these. I can just see that conversation never happened.

Exactly. And that's, that's why it's not a coalition. It's a it's a it's a fallacy. But um, Ted hate the last two clips have been so bad clips. But man, he really goes in and these next two clips, Ted hates three. And these folks have come into my country and the name, ironically, of people of color, my color, skin color, and the Civil Rights legacy. And recreating their struggle of whatever the

suffering in Mexico, Guatemala, El Salvador, Korea. Their struggle is not to be equated with the struggle of my enslaved ancestors and emancipated forefathers, for them to come into my country and take my legacy is to rob me of everything that I am. And if they get amnesty, then black people in this country, we will die because of the illicit numbers that are coming in this country to the to the erroneous twisting of the 14th amendment. Okay. All right. Well, the master fader slaves

Wow, she wasn't what did you want to shut him up? He should have shut him down. Did this the stain that she has in this next clip, and the amount of her being condescending is so obvious, is ridiculous. Tad, let me interrupt you for a second. You know, you spoke about your kind of black heritage and slavery and all of that. And you call yourself a civil rights activist, activist, you're a black man. Most of the protesters against this law say

this is a race issue. And this is the new civil rights era in the United States. If that's true, how can someone like you support this lie? Think for many people, it seems like a contradiction here. Because number one, these people who are claiming color are actually white people, you return their documents, you read the federal law, you read their own birth certificates, they are considered Caucasian people, they are not black people. Secondly, the business that the United States had with the

emancipation of slaves has never ever finished. You see, we blacks lead the country in every we need to lead the country in every negative social statistics that there is we are not finished with us. So how can these folks come into my country in the name of my civil rights and take it from us? That's why the majority of black people in this country are against illegal Did you hear what she said to him? Oh, yeah, you're a kind of black. And you call yourself a civil rights leader?

Yeah, yeah. And who was she? Oh for Artie. I don't I didn't catch your name. But for RT, there's this is the RT Emmys. This is the closest you'll get to mainstream news. And as she Why was she White? Black? She was white, she was white woman of whiteness. Okay. Yes. They say you're, you're you're kind of black. And there's a reason she's an AR T Mo. I mean, that's, that can even be below podcasting. In some cases.

That's true, but it's like, the way she would spoke to him. Like if the new civil rights and no no, no, but you know, for for a future show, we really have to look at the black leaders in America. I mean, and I'm saying this in the context of just having seen a a shrine to Nipsey Hussle on the Grammy Awards, which is produced by the whitest man, I know Ken Erlich. It was his last show, and I work with him. Now, I'm not a fan of Ken Ehrlich. But that That, to me is an emblematic of the problem.

You know, what leaders, what leaders I mean, like Tavis Smiley said, they sold their souls to Obama. All the leaders are done, they're cooked. And that's why people on podcast and hashtags are are the new leaders. That's why you're seeing a groundswell. I want you to highlight some of the new leaders on the show. And I have been doing that. I mean, no, I know, from time to time you bring in YouTube, here, yeah, we hear they these are the voices now we don't have the

thing that we don't need is leaders. We need people with ideas that make sense. And this is this, kind of go back to what I said before the Conservative Party is formed, or the Republican Party is going around ideas. And it's like, if you're on board with the idea, then we can we can work together, right? It's not about identity. It's about ideas. And that's where I'm headed. And I hope more people that share my lineage or

head the same way. If you don't share the ideas. No, it's not about just know, this feel good thing we need to have, you know, culture. And culture is shaped out of shared morals and a you know, understandings. So that's, that's what's really been shaped here. And if you're not on code or on board, sorry for you, because we were not doing identity politics anymore. And that's the whole mo point of the show. No, you sound like an angry young black man. I am just

checking. Just not I'm angry that when people tell you to get back in here, but like she just did to this man get back in your body? horrible. It's horrible. Yeah, I digress, though. But no, but I understand and and what I'm hearing, I'm actually I'm hearing you frustrated. So well, well, I want I want to identify who are who are the mean, is it Candace Owens, you know? Exactly. Because she's she I'm not saying because of what her ideas are,

cuz she has good ideas as well. But we're checking to see who's backing. We're checking to wait for the other shoe to drop. And like I said, I'm not harping on one group or the other group, whatever. But when a doc did this pivot of No, we're not voting. No, we're not voting tangible, tangible, tangible. Then you come with this. Oh, yeah. Vote down ballot. No. Explain. Explain. Explain the vote down ballot. Okay, this is what they were saying was we're not going to

vote for president. But we're going to vote for everything, you know, everything under that. And it's like, bro, everybody vote straight ticket when you got to vote. Everybody has mastered red button or blue button, right? And they're out of there. So don't play that con game with me. Right. And I just I'm not taking sides in this whole and I've kind of stayed away from that whole thing. I think Debono over there to voting down ballot that's a cop out is what I'm hearing

is like, it's a con. It's not a cop out. It's a con. It's like, once I get you in that voting booth, then what are you gonna do? You're gonna do the easy thing. You're gonna match one button or the other. But you know, right, you're not gonna sit out there and fill out every bubble. Nobody does that. It's like we pick teams like the Super Bowl. I mean, let's just be honest. Yeah. So if it doesn't pass the smell test, and that even goes through me if I come here talking crazy. Cancel

me. I'm serious. Because I mean we were we're it's just about being independent thinking we're not being heard anymore free men talking. Free man talking. So this last clip it just on a lighter note was not really a lighter note but I got a question for you. More Hispanics claim dot dot dot. What? What do you think it is? This is almost a Family Feud question. Yes more Hispanics

claim just based on Steve. Based on everything I've felt during the past two hours I'm going to say more Hispanics claim to be Caucasian. Survey says it was more Hispanics are identifying themselves as white. According to new census numbers released today, estimates 1.2 million of the 35 million Hispanic Latino or Spanish Americans change their race to white in the latest census. Research suggests Hispanics who have experienced discrimination are less likely to identify as white.

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