19: Block the Vote

mo fax with Adam curry for December 30 2019. This is episode number 19 the heck is this Mo? What did you send me? This is main source. Yeah. Looking at the front door should I know this obscure hip hop from the 90s so 90s I was like building a company and I didn't give a crap the Bill Clinton got impeached. I had no idea. Completely different things. Okay, that's nice. I like it a lot. But hey, Mo how are you? Happy? Merry Christmas. Merry Christmas to you, sir. How you doing? Yeah,

good. Good. We haven't spoken for a little bit. In fact, that was just before we got started. Someone on Twitter was giving us crap. Saying hey, where's Where's Moe fax you guys are slacking like, man. It's ended the holidays. We know that m five M goes on holiday but we actually tried to do something for you. All right, we we should bring in the beat team. I mean, like everybody else. Yeah, the life of a podcaster now did you have? Do you have a

nice Christmas? You? Does a lot of your family come over to how do I see that? You got you got like 18 kids? Yes. No. No. We had a great Christmas. My mom was gone came in came to visit. She just went home today. So I got a been loved up. Oh, yeah. Nice. And sleep deprived due to the kids. You know, they get up hella early in the morning. So I'm running low asleep behind the. Okay. Very good. Yeah, we had my my step, stepdaughters. Were

over. Okay. And Christina has, she was with her mom this year. So she's here next year, and she was in Rotterdam. But it was nice, nice, pretty uneventful. Nice, everyone happy, you know, just enough to drink perfect. About the same here without the drinking. Which brings us to moe facts, the last one for this year. And

that you were we kind of left it. After the last episode, we like I'm going to wrap up into your stuff and, and I realized about an hour ago, like I really have no idea what we're doing. So I am ready to be to embark on the journey. This is going to be the black vote episode. Okay. So we're going to talk about a few things that we promised that we were going to talk about the Southern strategy, Why do black people vote vote democratic? And why I refuse to vote? Why am I

abstaining from voting? So I promise to answer those questions. And I think those will be answered in this episode. I can't wait. It should be over in my, what, 17 minutes. So, so we have, um, let's just get right into it, the history of the black vote, and what it means for 2020. In 2020, we think that at least one out of every four votes that are cast in the Democratic primaries for president are going to come from black voters, it's very possible that will be

the highest number we've ever seen before. It's very possible, we will look back at 2020 and say the black vote was never more important than in 22. Put this in some context we've put together here, something I think is very interesting exit polls, starting in 1976. From past Democratic presidential primaries. 1976 was basically the first year that media outlets like NBC began sponsoring these primary exit polls, you know, whether it's the New York primary, the New

Hampshire primary, the Florida primary. And so we have a record that record though a lot of it has been buried, we have been able to resurface we think every primary since 1976. On the Democratic side, where there has been a significant black vote in that primary, and where an exit poll was conducted. We found it. We put it all together here. And you get a look here at how the black vote has gone in each one of these competitive Democratic races. And a couple of things stand out.

Now that I understand exactly what this episode is going to be about. I want to tell all the listeners, they're very lucky you are you are going to get an education that will make you smarter than anybody else, you know, because this I think is probably right. And I'm surprised NBC did this. So I can't wait to hear more. This could be a very important lesson. And this is a very important election. As the broadcaster said, one out of every four votes is going to be cast in the

primary is going to be a black vote. Right. We've already spoken about the numbers in previous episodes of how they need around 67% turnout for Democrats to be successful in, in the general election. So they're really dependent upon the black vote. And what this has done is put, quote unquote, black people in a very powerful, powerful position to make demands. And do you think that this is well known? Does everybody who's black know that this, this power is there at this moment in town?

Okay. No, there is a divide of who knows who doesn't know? Who is that? Who's possibly abstaining? Who is gonna vote regardless. And that's what we're going to get into it get into as we move throughout this episode, because it's not a monolith. Even though it's a voting bloc. It's not a monolith. So I know, it's a weird thing. But well, no, I mean, this people have different ideas, different opinions, but it's an active conversation.

Yes. And well, when we typically vote, we vote in a block for one party. Okay. So that is called collusion is called collusion mode. Yeah. So that is so very unique phenomenon. And I think our listeners are gonna be very advantaged by hearing us had this conversation, excellent going into the 2020 2020 election, because they're going to see, as they've seen from previous episodes, the things develop real time, and they were

able to see what was going on as it was happening. So let's just get into number two. And number one is just there is been a slow, but steady progression in that time, really, you know, 40 plus years right now, you can point to two really kind of specific events. Number one came back in the 1980s. It was the 1980s, twice in the 84 campaign. And again, in the 88 campaign where Jesse Jackson, the Reverend Jesse Jackson launched full fledged

national presidential campaigns in the Democratic primaries. And he said in 1984, that one of his goals in that campaign was to register millions of new black voters to get them voting in the Democratic primaries. And he did you can see that in this data. And then you see it jump again, about 20 years later. And that's when Barack Obama wins with Brock Obama becomes president in

2008. And then through his presidency, you see this kind of sorting out of the two parties, white working class voters, blue collar white voters, who had in the past, maybe been Democrats, they've migrated more towards the Republican Party and the Democratic Party, the role of black voters, the role of non white voters in the Democratic Party increased from basically the moment that Obama became president there. Wow, when did this air on NBC?

This was a what they say, ah, April may know, okay, or April or April or May. So it was a little while ago as we went under the radar. Of course. Of course. I mean, even for me, because when I went in to go dig for clips, I was like, wow, I mean, he really broke down the numbers. Yeah. So what we really

see here, we have a perfect storm happening here. We have the information age of the internet, and really the smartphone because that was that made information so much accessible, where you have people with laptops, desktops, people would really get on there to do to do a lot of searching but now with social media.

Obama was supposed to be the internet president, but he really wasn't I mean, the the internet then when Twitter was around, but understanding how to use it, and just the the force that social media has become and how integrated it is with mainstream television, particularly cable news, which flows over into print. I mean, the machine has really built up and so now it's a real thing. You can use it, it's being it's being used, it's being abused, and it can also eat your face off.

Yeah, and a lot of information is being shared and on Earth. And then the second part of that storm was Barack Obama being elected in 2008 2012. Black people felt very disenchanted from those eight years because we didn't receive anything of substance or anything tangible from him being an office. I want to stop you. The term tangibles for people who are new, let's just explain that because it's thrown around a lot You said nothing tangible

and that's something that we can really see feel touch. Point to to say, Okay, we saw progress happen What we typically typically get from the Democratic Party is feel good stories change of hope you can believe a change you can believe in hope. That kind of conversation those Yes, conversation feel good. It was the you know, as the is the feel good thing. So, so there was years there was zero tangibles that Obama brought to the black America,

zero. And as I said before, we only expected something from the last term because we were understanding of the Wink, wink, nod nod, you have to get make it to the second term to really cut loose. When that didn't happen. As I say very many people became disappointed. Then you factor in Hillary Clinton running against Donald Trump, Donald Trump uttering the magical words the black people are what do you have to lose? That made black

people look and say, Oh, what do we have to lose? Right? And from there, now it's about what do we have to gain? So that's where we're at right now. And it's, it's a magical time if you're really into politics and and to see a group of people who actually have this maturation, politically, there was a, there was a clip circulating on on Twitter today from CBS much was Face the Nation. What's the guy's name

Garrett, Garrett, something rather. And he's sitting there saying, you know, for if you look at what he's done for black Americans, what he's done for historically black colleges, he had a whole list of a couple of things. He said, That's accomplishments, any president would want his resume. And it was quite stunning to hear that on CBS. For the things that Donald Trump had done for criminal justice, right, that was another one was also what he's how he's engaged

with the HBCUs. It was because because they were stiff arm by Obama, when he was in office, he actually took them for granted and didn't really entertain them at all. Oh, this is well known. Anybody can look it up. So yeah. So when you have these things happening. And we talked about the masculinity portion of it. Yeah. So yeah. And yes. In fact, I don't know why I don't want to stray too much. But I was, I started watching Kevin Hart's series on Netflix. Have you seen this?

No, I haven't seen it yet. But I heard about it. And I do want to. I mean, there's, there's some things I don't like, but I really do like this guy. And at a certain point, it's kind of a reality show. I mean, I completely understand how this is made. And I like a lot of the choices he's made. But he has this crew of guys that he came and kind of came up with from and poor. And they talk openly about, you know, how none of them had a dad and how their their brotherhood and they got

to watch out for each other. And you can just see that energy, and you can see how easily that is tapped into with a guy like Trump. Yeah, so it's it's several things that we know Trump was recognized for this the masculine important portion of it to black men, that it's just like I said, What a time to be alive. Oh, hallelujah. Oh, what a time to be a podcast or Mo. Oh, so let's get into part. Let's get to part three of the

next clip. All there. As we head into 2020 I think you will see the story there has been sort of that rising tide in the Democratic Party when it comes to the size, the clout the power, the role of the black vote in Democratic presidential primaries in 2020, it'll probably be more important than we have seen to date. Okay, let me identify the the dog whistle here was the rising tide, the rising tide that rises all boats, which I think is no longer believed.

He just forced it in there because he was he was used out of context. So he just kind of what's your net win in there? So what was the point of that? It was it was no point. It was just like, you know, let's just squeeze a meme in here. Just trying to feel the time to hit the top of the hour. Okay, I got it. Yeah. People, anybody out there is listening and working a foreign near or any political party, do not use the term

rising tie. falls flat. It does not work anymore. That was a 20th century mean 21st century it has the complete opposite effect. I mean, it might come back, you know, in another 10 years, like bell bottoms, but we'll see. So, you had you asked the question about the divides and who's gonna Vote who's not going to vote. So one of the devices we discussed numerous times in the show is between men and women. But the one that really hasn't been discussed is the age

group. And the difference between the black Boomer row and the black millennial vote. Oh, okay, this is happening. This is a real phenomenon. And let's get Can I just need to say something? Honestly, yes. I just realized that. When I think of black Americans, I never really thought about black boomers and black millennials. And it sounds horrible, but I'm just like, I never thought of it that way. Yeah, of course. You got shitty millennials. And you got stupid boomers,

I guess. And it's, it's a real divide, because it's a little inside baseball before we get to the next clip. The millennials, and not all but some of the millennials and some of the Gen Xers feel like the boomers did very little with the things that they were given or the opportunities that were given. They think they were sold a bill of goods because integration. Integration is not really seen as CS accessible as you would

think it will be. No, it's actually seen as somewhat as a as a as a detriment to some people and are so a quote unquote, community. Wow. So there is a huge divide there between the black millennial Gen X or in the boomers. Okay. So Black millennial won. In 2016, millennial turnout increased for nearly every racial group, except for black millennials. Pew Research found White, Asian and Hispanic Millennials turned out at higher rates than they did in 2012. Whack millennial turnout, on the

other hand, fell by nearly five points. That could present a problem for Democrats, many of whom view black Millennials as the future of the party. In an Axios interview last weekend, the president of the racial justice group Color of Change, raised concerns that Republicans are aiming to win support from a

traditionally Democratic subset of voters. He said, quote, President Trump's campaign is handing out literature and black barbershops right now, they're doing micro targeting on Facebook and have a digital strategy to engage black folks. The Democrats would serve themselves really well to understand in deep ways, the power in intersectionality being specific and clear, will help people understand you're not just talking around them or at them, but talking to them

the most okay, I'm looking at Color of Change now. Huh? Who runs this outfit? That is worn Mr. Van Jones. Ah, that's who that is. Okay. I don't I don't dislike him. Actually. I don't dislike van. He's just kind of. He's entertaining though. He's full of crap. He's entertaining. But he's opportunities. Yeah, major opportunities. But he sells himself as a radical in that. Yeah. Oh, poo. Right. change maker. You know, I mean, look at this name to color change. Slightly muddy brown.

Well, can't blame them. It's kind of good. The Logos cool. And he's got something going on there. Okay. All right. I'll put it in the show notes have to investigate that later. So what we heard here is the millennial black millennial numbers are down. Yeah. Woodrow. We seen the Blau Black Lives Matter go after Hillary Clinton in 2016. Right. I think that was a crack in the dam. That was the behind the behind the stage conversation. They had that one. Yeah. Yeah, I remember that.

When they may her knowledge Black Lives Matter and the name I think they had a meeting with right direction, right? That's it right? So you have it from a bunch of different angles. You have like the black super woke, black Millennials saying hey, we want a progressive candidate. So now you can't run a run of the mill, Joe Biden. Kamala Harris, Booker, those guys won't get it. So they're willing to lean towards more or you're Bernie

Sanders. Maybe Elizabeth Warren, but she has some issues of hers and she's Native American that didn't really sit well the works. So is it also possible that all millennials in general are disengaging because they're so tired of the boring show? That could be a possibility but as the last could we play said all the other millennial numbers are up. Okay, so you have to trust those numbers then. Yeah. We all have to take them at face value. But that's just that goes to show you so

okay with that baseline, yeah, Houston, we have a problem. We have a huge problem and now we're starting to get to where that so we went from 67 to 59. We're starting to see where this 8% drop is coming from. And it's really the younger voters. So let's go into black millennial to Orisha hatch joins me now she is the managing director of campaigns for Color of Change Orisha, thanks so much for being with us. Thanks for

having me. So what should Democrats be doing in order to win the support of young black voters?

Democrats can do a lot of things. I think in this election cycle, specifically, black voters and black Millennials want to hear Democratic candidates speaking explicitly to black voters, and explicitly about policy proposals and agendas that actually help to not only reduce mass incarceration and discriminatory discriminatory policing, but also that are working to address the racial wealth wealth gap that many of us face. The racial wealth gap.

This is the whole point of reparations. Here we go. This is the that's the that's the politically safe way of saying reparations. The racial wealth gap I like Why have I not heard this? So who's made this a big issue is the A das founders tone talks and event Karnail? Interesting, because the first the first hit on and I do Google for this show, is an article from Forbes. The second is from

the New York Times, and then article from Duke. And then the Ford Foundation is this is an interesting, interesting little topic we got here. Okay, good. So why should racial wealth gap we might that might needs to be a whole nother show in itself, because so fascinating. But that's the that's the gap between the net well, so it's not just, it's not just radical move the podcaster who's saying this stuff. It's the it's the millennials, it's it's a lot deeper than we know,

for its surface very deep. But the Democrats have tried to push it down. Yes. And not acknowledge it, because they know is a huge problem for them. It's a major problem. Even the last speaker, she said they want now this is where intersectionality doesn't work, because she said black and black Millennials want things targeted Pacific specifically for them, right? That's not interested. That's not intersectionality.

No, that's, we want something. No rising tide, none of that bullcrap, what are you going to trade me for my vote is to even exchange and this is how politics works. Is that day is over. It's over. So the Democrats is going to have to come up with a new strategy. And I just don't think they had they better hurry up. It's just running out of time. And and you have one Mr. Donald Trump. I'll say this before I said it before, I'll say it again. We don't know what we're

going to get out of 2020 Donald Trump if he wins? No, he's not beholding to his base anymore. We see he's done things in the background, by criminal justice reform things that you mentioned previously. So what would he really do to really change? How he's perceived? And I'm not saying about any parties or anything, but I think he would do something to to repair his image. I really do you think Trump could come up with a reparations Gambit?

I think he would could do something tangible. I wouldn't say go for his reparations but you can do anything tangible which I'm so I understand how would that how would that how would that stone caught what what ripples in the political sphere? It would, it would cause an incredible brain freeze because he's racist. That makes no sense that the kk k literally Hitler does this. Yes. That was good people on both sides. Fine people, fine people, people, people.

I think we left off it too. Yeah. So let's go on to black I'm a level three, and will Color of Change be endorsing a presidential candidate this election cycle, we're still undecided about whether to endorse a candidate. It's a very wide field, we fundamentally believe that any candidate that Democrats will select will be better than

President Donald Trump. And so what we're doing is really focused on talking and engaging black voters, black millennial voters, especially many of whom are not even engaged by the candidates or the campaigns, trying to expand the black electorate the cycle. Oh, I see the problem. You just have to talk like this, and then that will appeal to the black millennials. Yeah. Let me get this straight. So the candidates haven't engaged. The voter. You want to talk to the voter? How does that work?

I mean, first of all, who was she again? Where she from? Oh, yeah, the color, color colors change, color change. She's their spokesperson is just a word salad. You're saying? She is, but it's certain words she won't use and that's a little foreshadowing. Next couple. Next couple of clips. But I'm asking I'll ask this question again. And people didn't think about this. Candidates are not engaging with the voter. And your target is to talk to the voter to say what be okay with not being engaged.

Exactly. Sounds like a strategy that she needs to talk to the candidates to help them engage the voters know. We're going to target the voters. That's a head scratcher. All right. So there's, there's money running around. There's this operation. That's the head scratcher. That's like, how does that work? That's cool. It's given me a lot. It's what's that? What's the word? Where's the word with this podcast when it comes to the black voting? Activate? Oh, of course, activate. Yep. And that's

the one that's what she told me engage. She didn't using gay she didn't use activate. But that's what she said engaging. You go activate the voter not changed the candidate not talk to them about policies that could motivate the voter. You go activate the voter. So Black millennial for? Yeah. Are there any candidates specifically, so far that you think are actually doing a good job in connecting with young black voters in particular?

Well, we've definitely seen strides made in the last election presidential election cycle, it was enough for a Democratic candidate just to say black lives matter. What folks are really looking for this cycle is more depth, a plan and a policy agenda that actually moves beyond just criminal justice reform, and addresses some of the economic justice concerns that we have. And so there are a number of candidates that we believe are taking that seriously. Mayor Pete with his

Douglass plan. Senator Warren has been talking specifically about income inequality, and problems with housing gentrification, that we think are very important to black voters. Senator Booker, even Marianne Williamson on the democratic national debate stage, has been really proposing solutions that black folks want to hear. Okay. I had not heard of the Douglass plan yet. Yes. So that's a male peaks. It's very inside baseball. Right? I watch that clip. That's not from me. That is not from

me. That's what Young Turks The Young Turks was it must have been, I think it's called that isn't the crawl or what is the thing called the lower third, Lower Third, the lower third, they actually had and I sent it screenshot to Adam for verification, actually called the man mail. The our was a misspelling, we think? No. They hate that. They hate pee over there. That that's pretty racist. Very, very, very good. But I'm just showing you hilarious though.

Once again, liberals, they will use racist terms before they use the Koon. Yay. And now they're attacking Pete. With the mayo Pete. You know, we're recording this in the evening. For the first time in the history of the show. I think we're a great late night show mo we could be live coast to coast with this. This is hilarious. Let me read, clear read Pete from Pete for America.

This is the Douglass plan with a double S, the decisions we make the next four years will determine America's path for the next 40. And a great deal of the progress he make on everything from increasing economic freedom to confronting climate disruption will depend on whether we tackle racially

racial inequality in our lifetime. For all our countries forward movement, black people capital B in America are still disproportionately excluded from systems of social protection, economic uplift, Lou, I think I think that's kind of that comes close to the rising tide and and representative democracy while facing shorter lifespans, lower educational attainment and dramatic over criminalization and incarceration compared to

their white counterparts. And, and so this plan is inspired on Frederick Douglass and comparable in scale to the Marshall Plan. Sounds like reparations to me. Maybe but the problem that Mayor Pete has, he's no good. You use besides not me, but you saw you saw how they came after him. Over the what was the article from the root MF for or got the title? Yeah, I mean, no, no, he's no good. He's what? He's also known as Wall Street Pete I mean, the guy

definitely. He's, he's faced, as far as I understand. He is a candidate has flown on more private aircraft than anyone else. And yet, and so he's not paying for out of his own pocket. And he's a Rhodes Scholar. In addition, I think he's a spook. I think he's the CIA candidate. I really do. Yeah, he's meeting me wine cellars. It's like, what what are you doing to beat me? That's what I mean. It's like, where's my invite Pete? Alright, mayo.

So she, she brought up Mary and weaves. And we talked about Miss Mary Ann on the show before. Yep. And she said, her solutions, boom. Interesting word to say solutions. I wonder what word you were avoiding to say? Let millennial farm? You know, I'm curious on that last point, because she was someone that did get quite a bit of attention when talking about the issue of reparations specifically, is that what you're referencing when you talk about Marianne Williamson?

Nice? Yes, we can. We saw from the debate stage that a lot of the work that movements have done over the past several years have entered into the debate. And so yes, black voters and black millennials, especially, are looking for candidates that speak explicitly to closing the black income gap, the black wealth gap. And so folks have been at least in movement spaces really excited to see that specific issue raised, raised to a national profile this election.

was the last time you were in one of the movement spaces. And she really didn't want to say that the R word. No, of course not. She just said a whole bunch of stuff. She rehearsed that solutions. Yeah. Mary Ann has solutions. I mean, I'm Marianne Williamson who and I don't know if she's still running, and I don't think she's officially dropped. I like her, you know, I liked a lot of what she said and she didn't quite get there. But she put a number on the table, you know, $400 million.

Use the word. She used the word but then you know, then she was kind of like and then we need a committee and it's like, wow, wow. I give credit where credit's due she did use the word Michelle unabashedly. She pushed back against Don Lemon when he was like how do you get how you calculate that number but from a from a from a television and advertising executive standpoint, once you did the talking in tongues in the church it was all over for

they could use that for great ratings though. That would spice up the show. The show? No. No it because they wanted to get rid of her so bad in particular Fox News which I don't understand why because I think she's interesting. They were like, oh, it looks crazy. And then you know, MSNBC. Oh, what's going on here the Marianas crazy. You created a bit crazy. And that was

she's talking about reparations and giving cash. You know, like, we got to get her out of here but she got that's but if you look at look, if you look at survivor or Big Brother, you gotta have one crazy one. You got to keep them around for a bit. You don't kick them off the island right away. If you talk in that crazy, you gotta go okay. cuz she was pulled a new way to the dark side planning to do this. Oh, true. They were like, no, no, we're talking about Yeah, you

can't be doing you can't be doing that. We will have a meeting for our meeting, which would that's what HR 40 was, what got my meeting? That's about a meeting. Whatever came out of that HR 41. We were supposed to have the next meeting. And where you tell me, you tell me, Adam, I don't know impeachment, Trump, but that's all I know. So, now we're going out to black voters are a central part of the Democratic primary. This is MSNBC. And this is our from the

roots. Jason Johnson. Oh, well, Biden is comfortable. Biden is someone that people know and also and I've I've done it a lot these numbers myself, a lot of this is about age. Older black voters love them some Joe Biden because they're like, Okay, he was with Barack Obama. And all we want is Trump out of office, the younger voters, millennials. Is that how older black people talk? Mo that's the I love me some Joe Biden is that literally a caricature? This guy is doing

just fine. It was NBC, like Fred Sanford, all of a sudden, okay. Well, we want his trump out of office, the younger voters, millennials, and Generation X, like myself, often wants something more often don't think that Joe Biden is going to be transformative enough. And so the issue that he's going to have is sort of the reverse of Bernie Sanders and 2016, Bernie Sanders got young black voters couldn't get anybody over the

age of 30. Right. Basically, Joe Biden's got to figure out a way to get younger African Americans to believe in Him to understand that he's made changes since the 1994 crime bill. And then he actually has to have a comprehensive on the ground plan, which very few people except for Cory Booker talked about, of how you're going to fight voter suppression, because even if you've got black people supporting you, if they can't get to the polls, or their votes don't count, you're not going to

be successful. And that's something that I think if you've got 53% of African Americans saying we support you, you should try and find a way for them to actually get their cast a vote. Okay, do we get to talk about this for a second about the black voter suppression? No, not really. Because I to be honest with you, that's so low on the list. I mean, it's really isn't a real thing, MO. Because

of voter ID driver's license. Yes. You know, we as black folks, we have trouble getting driver's license our IDs. This is true. That's not true. No, no, that's not true. But now the meme. That's the that's the meme. Yeah, you know, when they have problems getting IDs, it's like it's so insulting. How come? I never hear any black person say, That's stupid? That's insulting. They don't give us the mic. You're hearing it now that you give me a $27. Mic. Now you're hearing me.

And you know, buddy, sounds like a $30. Mic. And no macular onward. Okay. Okay. No, I'll just set it straight. Because we know no one ever stops and mentions that. And so what is this voter suppression? And it's literally, it's literally Well, you know, it's hard for them to determine if you have voter ID laws that suppression like, okay. Just for a little background, Mr. Jason. I keep Jason Johnson. He was he was one of the he found the root. And he was one

of the Russian botters. Just to give you context, he was a Russian bot. Okay, I guess. So. This is why you This is why you're here. These people are when you see them on MSNBC or NBC or whatever, major outlet. They are toeing the party line. No kidding. Go talk to the voter. He's a professor to the candidate. He's a professor of political science. They will always slip to go to Eclipse to go go talk to the voter, not talk to the candidate. I mean, we do we see

what's going on here. We do. So yeah, so is of the same ilk. Is this next lady? I didn't get her name, I think is Donna. Yeah, I mean, this is where you come to this question of younger voters who really think in terms of intersections, they don't just think about, you know, sort of Where's the guy who's been with a black guy. And and I think that that provides an opportunity for a lot of the other candidates to eat in there and turn that vote out. I mean, that that vote basically didn't

really show up in 2016. And this is a real opportunity. And the other thing is, you know, for Joe Biden, he's going to start looking at what he's doing and saying, What am I going to do to try to energize and galvanize this vote but I look at some of these candidates who are putting out proposals that will be really appealing to that, those younger voters and so I see that as an opportunity to to grow. And you know when when Donna says those voters stayed home in 2016, the

consequences of staying home in 2016 was Donald Trump. And I think that this is again another indication of voters being realistic about the consequences of not using their vote properly. You know what? I have an idea Joe will attract the young black Millennials by calling it the mullah. No malarkey tour. That'll work. Joe, Joe has his berrio Boomer does tell me what he's struggling with IE struggling with the millennials. No, it is. And and

Bernie Sanders me he has the black millennial vote. They obviously they love Bernie Sanders. I mean, he's a icon or, or, you know, this ideal candidate for for what they believe. Well, if he's promising a lot of free stuff, that's always good. Yes. Free stuff. He always is a good thing. But what about what about these back? Andrew Yang is got something really tangible. I mean, for everybody? $1,000 a month? Yes. That math problem, sir. I mean, how to pay for it. Yeah. Okay. Yeah.

So, yeah. And, and they don't like it. I don't know why they don't like Yang. I really don't. I mean, he seems like he seems like a good candidate to get behind. But they want to push Biden. Yeah. No, no, no. I mean, he's, he's no good for the party. He's just now No, no, no. If you don't think so? No, I don't know if the party doesn't want him. No, no, no, no. He's Sneaky. Sneaky, still snow Silicon Valley. Sneaky. And ALCAR. By and by sneaky. I mean, he wants a value added tax. And

he says we can do half what Europe is okay. Europe is 21% for everything you buy in the store at 21%. To that, and you're going to pay for that right then and there. Because well, we can do with half. Yeah, I know. I remember when value added tax was 12%. In Europe, and then I remember when it was 15 and 1718, then 18 and 19. And now 21. So now that's why I love doing the show with you. It's sneaky. It's it's sneaky. So that's, that's not gonna hurt.

So he had the same problem now. Elizabeth Warren Harris has, yeah, but she, she just, you know, he's easily says it. And Elizabeth Warren, he's like, No, I'm not going to tell you about the tax part. Your cost will go down. She's telling you how to how to calculate your taxes to have now she blew it on that? I think so. So for the first portion of the show, I think we clearly identify why the black vote is so coveted. And why so important to whoever the winner or loser is going to be in 2020.

So we always have to go back. Well, hold on. Can't we just call in Jay Z and Beyonce? Can't they brand new black vote? Didn't work in 2016 they had they had Lebron James. Jay Z, Beyonce chance to rapper all that Hillary Clinton's like, I think like two days before or a day before the election. No dice. John led to didn't have John Legend to John Legere is always on call. For the guy, you call Hello. Was I needed? So they have everybody but the younger voters. I'm

smarter. And it's transactional now right? And you can't come with wooden nickels anymore. And these promises of rainbows and glitter and all this. Me Yeah, you don't understand what I'm saying? But like this foot that warm? fuzzies Oh, yeah, you're gonna you're gonna feel great after you vote for what are you putting on the table? Right? Not only are the millennials asking that the good portion of the black male vote is asking the

same thing. What are you going to put on the table? So now this is why we had had a conversation on previous shows what who they're targeting when women because they can say this is a first for you. We can have a first black woman we can have a first black woman, female vice president you know that kind of

thing. Right? You know, it's there's still a first there after Brock Obama like, it's there's no there's no more, you know, and I think it's pretty well established that the general thinking within the Democrat Party is whatever whatever white guy is nominated. It's going to be Stacey Abrams, who is vice President candidate pay has to be pretty universally known. Yeah. So now we have to go back and talk about the history of voting

on voting rights. And this is according to The New York Times, in this scene from the 2012 movie know why Abraham Lincoln spells out the terms of reconstruction are all they heard was the first time any President has ever made mention of Negro voting? In 1865, he said freed slaves who were intelligent, or it served as soldiers should be allowed to vote. The 14th amendment passed in 1868, guaranteed this right as part of

the full citizenship accorded to African American man. But for much of the 20th century, voting remained a contentious issue. The 19th amendment, ratified in 1920, gave women the right to vote, but the racial divide remain. I'd love that you pull these clips, that's great. So what I'm setting up here is why the boomers feel the

obligation to vote. Because they're closer to the neck to two to history yet to the historical struggle, of course, yeah, they actually, you know, 60s, they were there were the Millennials don't have that context. And it's like, I wasn't there, you know, I've always had the right to vote. So I'm going to be more callous selective with my more selective with my vote, whereas the boomers say you have to vote, you have to vote. And this is not something

this is a this is a critical thing to understand. Because this is only just before I was born now, just as I was born, you know, really, when a lot of these things came into play. But even if you go back two generations, you're so right. Black Americans have not had this right. And it's fresh. Just a personal, personal anecdote, if you think about it, my dad, right, he was born in 51. So like he was able to vote in the very end of the 60s. His dad may have been heckled or

able to struggle for him to vote, right? So when they have that conversation between those two, it's like, Yes, from my grandfather to my father, son, you have to vote because we just got this right. You have to keep keep the ball rolling. And where as with the conversation, say between me and my dad, he's always pretty much had the right to vote. I've always had the right to vote. So now it's about what are we going to do with it? Right, exactly.

And what we what are we willing to do? If we don't have our demands are met. And it's hard for my dad to say No, I won't vote. I understand that. That makes total sense. So this is why Joe Biden's Boomer numbers. That's why I say Boomer, you're saying tongue in cheek, but this is why his numbers are so high with black age group. Yeah. And this is why they're struggling

with the black millennial. Well, let's get into history of the voting rights to some states continue to limit voting, either through measures like the poll tax or direct intimidation of African American voters. In the south. There were even whites only primaries. This is Sam Tanenhaus of The New York Times. The first modern Civil Rights Act was signed by President Eisenhower in 1957. It created a federal commission authorized to enforce voting

rights. Senator Strom Thurmond conducted the longest filibuster in history more than 24 hours in an effort to thwart the bill but it passed the location for the meeting with Senator Ribbeck still voting was not equal for all massive resistance in the deep south was organized to keep blacks from the polls and legal enforcement was hampered by all white jury. This is why I get so hurt about modern day voter suppression

quote unquote voter suppression, right. When people will my grandfather's age could have been be in even their lives taken for going to vote. They were made to pay payroll taxes they were made to take literacy test. Even things is asinine is how many like jelly beans in a jar kind of things. So when you say modern day voter suppression is like when you equate those Who thinks it's so disrespectful? Yeah. To the older black voters?

Yes. And to think that one or two generations after that would care so little that they can't even figure out how to get an ID card? Or to check to make sure you're still on the roll. I mean, if we're saying is, right, it's so important to us. Right, right. Right. Going down to wherever City Hall and and make sure you're on the rolls and getting your ID and make sure, of course, we've we know, gerrymander happenings. And they play with the voter rolls on both sides. I mean, this

happens. Yeah. But if you say voting is so important to you, as a right, just doing those small checks to make sure you have that right to exercise it, even if you write yourself in whatever, you would think you would take it more seriously, but these people come along and say, oh, yeah, it's voter suppression. Dude, that is so it is just a smack in the face to the people two or three generations ago that really

whose vote was suppressed? Yeah. So I mean, that that irks me, and that's why I didn't address the voter suppression thing until I got it. It's one of those things that people just talk about, just like you say, vote, voter suppression. It's like saying comprehensive immigration reform. It's meaningless. common sense gun laws, I can go on forever. It's like it's meaningless. It's completely meaningless.

When a set is said to invoke a certain mind picture of course, course white cop standing there, you know, blocking the polls. How many jellybeans? Right, he's that? That was really mean like read read this, you know? That's not what happened now. But then when they equate the two people I will continue to call this out when I see it. Please do. Thank you, sir. Okay. Oh, history of the voting voting rights. Part Three. Voting Rights became a central issue in the civil rights movement.

I think this March will go down as one of the greatest in 1965 The Reverend Martin Luther King Jr. led the march from Selma to Montgomery for better voting laws. The nation was shocked by images of the marchers being attacked. And less than five months later, President Lyndon Johnson signed the Voting Rights Act of 1965. It barred states and districts from curtailing the vote on the basis of race, color or language.

It is wrong, deadly wrong to deny any of your fellow Americans the right to vote in this country. Sections four and five of the bill included special provisions to ensure fair voting practices in a number of states, most of them in the South. Voting Rights Advocates say some citizens there continue to be disenfranchised. But the Supreme Court's close ruling on Tuesday, striking down section four suggests that conditions have changed since 1965. And it is left to Congress to reconsider the

act. Yep. There it is, again, yep, voted right still disenfranchise. So I mean, so this goes from the history of the voting rights. And it starts at the end of that last clip starts to bleed over to explain why the majority of black voters are Democrats probably have to go back over a century to start begin telling the story, right? African Americans start out when they

become essentially franchised? No, they do so because of the Civil War and Abraham Lincoln's Emancipation Proclamation, and therefore, African Americans, sort of, by default, become

Republicans, because that is the party of emancipation. The Republican Party, while it's in favor of emancipation, is not really a natural place to put African Americans, especially as the as the Republican party goes through the late 1800s, early 1900s, and goes through some sort of realignments inside itself and turns away from a possible progressive move with Theodore Roosevelt and becomes increasingly in the early 20th century, more of the party of white collar business interests,

upper class interest. Well, that's one way to explain it. One quick question, sir. Do you hear me ring my bell? Yeah, I heard you laugh a little bit in the background. Yeah. What do you think are rang my bell? I just want to start off with the church starts off with a church right away. It's the same exact song. These are Two different news organizations. Yeah. The first set of three clips was the New York Times. This clip is a set of clips from newsy. And they all use the same song. Which

song is it, though? We share? Oh, yes. It's like a Mind Control trigger. I mean, I'm being I'm being No, serious. No, I hear you, because immediately caught me. I heard it. I heard you ring the bell. And I didn't even hear what song I was like, Oh, I get it. I know where I am. It's like a portal to take you back to the Civil Rights time, then he didn't need to throw an amazing grace in there too, though, once in a while. Now, is this where we should overcome? That's that's the

mean. That's the shell. Yep. Yeah. And like I said, The New York Times use the same exact song so that they're aware they're doing this as a trigger, to trigger these emotions. And that's what they want. They want emotional votes. They don't want

educated votes, they want emotional votes. But this is this is who this is. This is political campaigning, in general is always playing at the emotions, of course, and of course, and we and we buy our we vote for our politicians just like we buy our washing powder, as well as less, as long as the message repeated a lot, then we get into it.

I agree I agree with it. So majority two, but now you get African Americans moving into the north where they can vote and they begin to find the appeal of Franklin Roosevelt's New Deal very attractive, they begin increasingly to identify with the Democratic Party doesn't

happen overnight. Right. Partisan attachments take a while to erode during the late 30s and early 40s and late 40s, to turn from a party that had been held hostage to state rights in the South to one that was willing to embrace civil rights. You see that and the behavior of Arias Truman, right, who's going to integrate the armed services by executive

order. And after World War Two, you see that in the 1948 Democratic Convention, then Senator Hubert Humphrey from Minnesota gets up and says it's time for us to walk out of the shadows states rights into the bright sunshine of civil rights. At the same time, the Republican Party is struggling with its history of emancipation and civil rights. You get someone like Dwight Eisenhower, who says that integration desegregation should go slow.

Okay, that was 48. Yes. So there's two things that they attributed to, as of right now pre civil rights that have made blacks majority Democrats, one being the the New Deal, FERS New Deal, right. And then the integration of the armed services during World War Two. Got it? Those are the two things pre Civil War. So and then they say with the Eisenhower, he said that integration needs to go slow. Yeah. Which I've discussed this before on my show, I am not

a fan of forced integration. Oh, and governmental or schools or things that nature? And I don't, I think historically, that's turned out not to be a super great idea. No, and I do speak personally. My dad had to leave all black school in his senior year, and was forced to go to integrated school. And he hated the surprise. Yeah. So forced and not taken up for Eisenhower. I'm just saying. That is I think that's more popular belief or more popular sentiment that

people want to let on when you use 2020 hindsight vision. Yeah, well, we learned a bit about that, in regards to Kamala Harris bringing that up against Joe Biden. So I think people are a lot more aware than than they were. Yeah. And that's This is one of the benefits of the information age that we previously talked about the beginning of the show.

So majority three, that sort of personifies some of this movement of the Republican Party away from its traditional belief in civil rights and extending rights to African Americans, especially by by the mid 1960s. You get Lyndon Johnson who's going to take the lead on civil rights act 1964 Voting Rights Act of 1965. And by that point, the ship is cooked right. The Republican Party opposes it standard bearer Barry Goldwater oppose 1964. He

calls it a piece of communistic legislation. At that point. I think the door closes right at that point. African Americans who are politically active or are Democrats this the switch? Yeah, that is switching parties. Yeah. Yeah, go ahead. Well, I've never heard it explained like this. So I'm kind of trying to process it because this is the whole you know, what happened? Well, you've you here, you know, how this switch happened? What who switched? Was it the voters who left or did

the party switch? You know, it's it's very murky way it's explained in verted explained many different ways. Not exactly like this, though. Well, this is the left democratic explanation for why black voters vote Democrat and they, they kind of they didn't use the term Southern strategy. But as you always know, I always like to counterbalance Yes, Amy narrative with a man with a narrative or a at least explanation from the opposite side. So then we can go down the middle and kind of find where

the where the truth really is. Right. So I went over to Prager, you. That's a good one, to go to one of our right leaning, go to sources. And Miss Carol Swain. Miss Carol Swain. Let me look up her information here is a professor, she is a professor of political science at Vanderbilt University. And she's a black lady. So be understand, just hold it into thought, as we get her to explain the Southern strategy. Once upon a time, every student of history. And that meant

pretty much everyone with a high school education knew this. The Democratic Party was the party of slavery and Jim Crow. And the Republican Party was the party of emancipation and racial integration. Democrats were the Confederacy and Republicans were the union. Jim Crow, Democrats were dominant in the south, and socially tolerant Republicans were dominant in the north. But then, in the 1960s, and 70s. Everything supposedly flipped.

Suddenly, the Republicans became the racist, and the Democrats became the champions of civil rights, fabricated by left leaning academic elites and journalists, the story went like this. Republicans couldn't win a national election by appealing to the better nature of the country, they could only win by appealing to the worse attributed to Richard Nixon, the media's all purpose bad guy. This came to be known as the Southern strategy. You know, sometimes I think, because it's just not, it's just

not clearly laid out how this happened. I think that when they when they killed Kennedy, the trauma was so great that there's like a, like a collective memory whole, kind of around that period, when done with Johnson and everything is just like, like, okay, here we are. This is this is how the dust is cleared, where the Democrats were your friends. And they rewrote Johnson in history for who we actually was when we think several of our listeners and maybe you have

heard the Johnson tapes. Oh, yeah, he was not racist. The guy's super racist. He was saying he wasn't the civil rights and civil rights freedom fighter that they paid him out to be, especially in his HBO movie they made Yeah. Oh my God. They made him out to be like a douche. It was total dick. All right. Yeah. So so what we're going to do is, as you pointed out, they brushed over this thing called a Southern strategy, and it's just wildly accepted as truth. Well,

Miss Carroll Swain. She's going to break down the myth or myths of the Southern Southern strategy. It was very simple, win elections by winning the south and to win the south appeal to racists. So the Republicans, the party of Lincoln, were to now be labeled the party of rednecks. But this story of the two parties switching identities is a myth. In fact, it's three myths wrapped into one false

narrative. Let's take a brief look at each myth in turn. Myth number one, in order to be competitive in the south, Republicans started to pander to white racists in the 1960s. Fact, Republicans actually became competitive in the South as early as 1928. One Republican Herbert Hoover, won over 47% of the South's popular vote against Democrat Al Smith. Yes, I think I've seen This whole Carol Swain bit, I think it's

very familiar to me. So yeah, this sounds right. And I remember looking this up in reliable places like Wikipedia confer confirming. But this goes to show you that there's a counter narrative to what was widely accepted course. And this goes to explain why millennials, some not being, quote, some actually being more conservative. Yeah. This is more am an ammunition for people to

say, hey, wait a minute. When I'm talking to my dad, I mean, we're gonna use this analogy of me talking to my dad because I'm, I think I'm borderline millennial and Gen X, or I'm not sure where that cutoff is. But I'm not a boomer. But I'm a non Boomer. My dad's a boomer. So when we have these conversations, I'm like, Hey, Dad, and he'll break out the Southern strategy, right? And I'll be like, I'll top your Southern strategy with Miss Carol Swain, how black southern

lady, that's the boomer. So it works out. It works out great, because now I have this information to you know, enlighten him. That how'd that go? How's that go over when you do that to your dad? What's the workout? Great? Yeah. Well, he's gonna vote regardless. Yeah, he's gonna vote. So yeah, so and that's, once again, this is why Biden's numbers are so strong, because they don't want to hear it. This

is what we've done the exact this is what we've done. And this is what we're going to do. But for people out there, we're gonna break down the myths for you. And let's go into Myth number two. Myth number two Southern Democrats angry with the Civil Rights Act of 1964. switch parties. Fact, of the 21 Democratic senators who oppose the Civil Rights Act, just one became a Republican. The other 20 continued to be elected as Democrats, or were replaced by other Democrats. On average,

those 20 seats didn't go Republican. For another two and a half decades. Yep. Yeah. Yeah, I have seen this. And she has a graphic with that makes it even clearer when you see it. Yeah, it's undeniable. So how's that workout? Where was it swap? Where was this? Where was this flip? It's in the, it's in the book mash. It didn't exist now. But we all know, when you say something long enough. It'll just be accepted as truth. And it's kind

of hard to break that condition. And it's really astounding, because I know that I went after the story for about a month or six weeks or no agenda. And you know, and I got so many different versions of the switch that people had heard and confirmation that yes, you know, this, because I played pieces of this Prager, you bit. And I'm like, oh, yeah, that's what I heard. But now that I hear this is something completely different. This is this is snuck

into history. And it's a rewrite. It really has been rewritten in in different ways. But the result is the same a switch. And what she used she's using cold hard numbers. You can't beat numbers, but people would just write it off like yeah, whatever she's compromised conspiracy theory. Crazy religious, Republican, Trump. All those all the above. She's, she's lost her mind. Yeah. Alright, let's just for poops and giggles. Let's listen to Miss Carol Swain and the third myth. Myth number

three. Since the implementation of the Southern strategy, the Republicans have dominated the south by Act, which it makes him the man who is often credited with creating the Southern Strategy lost the deep south in 1968. In contrast, Democrat Jimmy Carter nearly swept the region in 1976 12 years after the Civil Rights Act of 1964. And in 1992, over 28 years later, Democrat Bill Clinton won Georgia, Louisiana, Arkansas,

Tennessee, Kentucky and West Virginia. The truth is, Republicans didn't hold a majority of southern congressional seats until 1994 30 years after the Civil Rights Act. Yeah, yep, that's right. That's the facts. But I mean, as we know matters, but it's our duty. To have our due diligence. We have to counterbalance the narrative And there you have it, and anybody who wants to use this information at any family function, have at it. Gasby Yes, we feel that weddings are very appropriate for this,

this is a good time to break it out. And you just have a headphone hit listen to these guys, and then just queue up that bit. It'll fantastic guaranteed fun. So, but at the time that this was going on, there was somebody calling myths of hypocrisy out. And it was one of my favorites, Mr. Malcolm X. And one of his one of I think one of the greatest speeches, even over this is my personal opinion, even over I have a dream. And this was the ballot and the bullet speech.

The political philosophy of black nationalism only means that the black man should control the politics and the politicians in his own community. When white people can come in community, and get us to vote for them, so that they can be our political leaders and tell us what to do and what not to do is long gone. By the same token, the time when that same white man, knowing that your eyes are too far open, consider another Navy role into the community to support him so he can use him.

Oh, really, they came back for a bit there. Doesn't this are eerily like the times we're in right now? No kidding. No kidding, MO. And this is what year was this? The speech 1964 60 forces. This isn't what after he left. Let me get the information on this speech. This was after he left the Nation of Islam. In 1964. April 12. He gave this speech at the King Solomon Baptist Church in Detroit, Michigan. But he even he even basically pointed out to Boulais Oh, yeah. In there, because he

said for the people to even have their eyes open. They're going to sin leaders that look like us. Yeah, get your vote. So I mean, hello, Barry. Quite clear. Yeah, he was quite clear. That even real time people were aware of what was going on. Right, what was going on? And that's why I followed up this Miss Carol Swain with this set of clips because people like oh, that's a rewrite of history. She's cherry picking history. Well, we have one of the most renowned black leaders refuting

refuting it. Yes. So let's let's let's let them continue ballot or the bullet two. We must, we must understand the politics. And we must know we

must know what politics play in our lives. Until we become politically mature, we will always be misled and led astray or deceived or maneuvered into supporting someone politically, who doesn't have the good of our community and so the political philosophy of nationalism only means that we will have to carry on a program a political program of re education to open up people's eyes make us become more politically conscious politically mature whenever we get ready to cast our ballots,

that ballot will be class will be cast for a man of the community to have the good of the community is scary. If you were to publish these words, right now and 2020 is like he's like it's the same right? We're at the same Crossroads well, it it's a fractal and in an in a very interesting nice way you are you are a part of that fractal mo so this is this is a good thing. It's a beautiful thing to see really.

Cuz I knew of this speech, I mean, I've heard it numerous times, but just to hear it and like now Want to hear right now? Yeah, it's like he could be. He could be talking about what's going on right and right now, and it's just so it's wonderful at one way. And another way. It's just that, wow, it took this long. Like, it's like, because this is 55 years because I was born in 1964. Yeah. Shit. I'm part of the fractal to UI. It's 55 years. For us to get to the maturing point. Yeah.

But that Well, congratulations on all facts. How does it feel now that you're politically mature? It feels great. Feels great. Effort. Exactly. But, but it does feel great, because what we see here is the internet. Yep. The, the one of the greatest inventions of all time, the internet has defeated the propaganda machine that has kept down people in all walks of life at all, you know, we can go back and pull data and pull clips and put it together and actually find what the truth

was. So I'm just gonna let him continue. I mean, he's on a roll right now. So this government has failed government itself. Liberals who have been posing as our friends. Once we see that all these other sources to which we turn, we stopped turning to them and turn to ourselves. We need a self help program. Do it, do it yourself. I do it right now. The only time the only way we're

going to solve our problems is with a self help program. Before we can get a self help program started, we have to have a self help philosophy. I'm so happy that this particular recording exists because a lot of the recordings of Martin Luther King suck. And this is this is nice. I mean, the audio is good. And of course, it's got its scratchiness, but you can really

hear him incredibly well. And again, everything he said here, I mean, mine has been in my journal called himself, Malcolm Malcolm mo facts. And the funny thing is, is that the meme that I was telling you about before that I've seen conservatives post of Malcolm X talking about liberals. Right, right. I've mentioned it several times in the show, but that is the one but also talking about so so let me just say in this in this speech, where he says the

conservative doesn't give a crap about you anyway. Either. Way, hey, no, no, no. We're just gonna clip it down to where he's talking about the liberals. Oh. That's how memes work. Let me come on. Gotcha. I'm with you. I'm working with you. cherry pick the cherry picker to use against the liberals. But it's weird because I was like what? Like, you know, hardcore conservatives are using Malcolm X who thought that in the 20th 21st century? Well, I know when I when I was growing up. There used to be

Malcolm X t shirts. You don't see those anymore. I will say this. And I don't wanna get too far off cutting out I'm saying it has been disgusting. What a few active members of the Black academia has done to the name of Malcolm X. One being Mr. Michael Eric Dyson. Disgusting. And I'll just leave it at that. He was saying people can go look up for

yourself. They when you are the Boulais Yeah, everything is fair game to tear down if it's harmful to the people that you're protecting now, and I'll just leave it there, but it's just disgusting. Well, we're bookmarking it because in 2020, we got to come back to that. Yes, I will come back to the our will. And maybe sooner than then thought. But I think we left off it three to four. Yep. Four. Why is America why does this loom to be such an explosive

political year? Because this is the era of politics. This is the year when all of the white politicians are going to come into the negro community. You've never seen them until the election. You can't blame them. They're going to come in with false promises. And as they make these false promises, they're going to feed our frustrations. And this will only serve to make matters worse. I'm no politician. I'm not even a

student of politics. I'm not a Republican nor Democrat, not an American and what did he say at the end? They're not American. I'm not a Republican. I'm not Democrat. I'm not American. American have sis nothing. No. And what he means by that is he's not recognize Oh, I totally understand what he means. Yeah. I'm explaining for people that you know, I'm sorry, I will say it again because I interrupted you, ya know what? He's not accepted into the American dream into the fabric

of the constitution. So he's like, I'm, I'm, what would you have to do is put that in context of, of course, Dr. King, and I have a dream and even though civil rights movement, he's like, No, don't be fooled. Right? To think you're you're only being used because you can activate the vote even back then it was activated. Yeah. So um, bullet 520 2 million black victims of Americanism by waking up and gaining a new

political consciousness, becoming politically mature. And as they become develop this political maturity, they're able to see the recent trends in these political elections, they see that the whites are so evenly divided that every time they vote, the race is so close, they have to go back and count the votes all over again. Which means that any block, any minority that has a block of votes that stick together is in

a strategic position. Either way, you you're in a position to determine who goes to the White House and who will stay in the doghouse. You're the one who has, here's what Trump should do if I was advising him to use that line. You want to be in the White House, you want to be in the dog house. What a great one that would be to resurrect. This is the block the course this is the glow, right? It's the origination of the block sure that we have so much power right now because the country is so

evenly divided. That this, this is one time with the monolith of the block or whatever you want to call it is valuable. Because we can move in one direction or the other. It'll be noticed. It'll know the way the country goes or our vote goes is I'm talking about 2020 Here. However, our vote goals are don't go because we have to talk about the negative vote again. Republicans just need us to stay at home. They don't need us to

come and vote. And to go back a few clips ago they were saying that the Trump campaign is putting out information targeted information on Facebook and barbershops. This message is getting around. So you need to Weymouth so Trump is is campaigning with flyers in barber shops. Is that was that what you said? I don't know. I don't know how that goes. I haven't seen a Trump flyer in a barber shop but but they're reaching out. Right? Because that's that's the political form. I wanted to

major political forms in the black barbershop. Yeah, it's the barbershop I mean any any community but Whoa, I've seen Eddie Murphy movies. Okay. Yeah. I get it I get I could be your Arsenio so people don't think about 1964. When you hear these clips, think about writing about 2020. Think about right now what he's saying. And bullet six. You're the one who sent Kennedy to Washington. You're the one who put the president Democratic administration in Washington DC.

The Wake were evenly divided. It was the fact that you through a percent of your votes behind the Democrats that put the Democrats in the White House. When you see this, you can see that the Negro bill is a key factor in despite the fact that you are in a position to to be the determining factor. What do you get out of it? The Democrats have been in Washington DC, only

because of the negros they've been down there for years. And they're all other legislation they wanted to bring up they brought it up and get it out of the way and now they bring up you You You put them first and they put you chump. Fantastic. Now against spotter spotter spotter. And but this could be about 2008 to 2010. Yep. When we got Brock in office gave gave him all the votes he needed to pass any

legislation from those two year period. They got everything Obamacare and everything else they won't pass with nothing no Trump but nothing. Trump's you got Trump. And next you got Trump. See you gotta get again, I'm writing the campaign for him. Some I got some I call Mr. Curry Oh, political consultancy,

consulting. Yeah. So I'm just the counter Mr. Malcolm, and explain how some people that I often agree with I don't agree with on their stance on voting is Mr. Warm, nearly Fuller, and we've played his clips before, he was so gracious to us to define what white supremacy was on previous shows. But I want him to explain he's gonna explain voting with the slave ship analogy. It leads to some constructive things and a whole lot of non constructive things. But when you consider the alternative,

use the slave ship analogy. If you're at the bottom of the slave ship, you know Yana slave ship. But every now and then some second lieutenants, who is the slave master of the slave ship? Some person who is not the captain maybe comes down the ladder and say, well, the captain doesn't speak favorably of any of you people. After all, this is a slave ship. But I go with him about giving you a little more corn bread than you

usually get. So I'm going to try to get it for you. I mean, if you just bear with me, and try to cooperate and don't rally or change too much down here, disturbing my sleep. So if you're to just kind of keep quiet, see through it, the durations are increased. Yeah, sounds about right. And this is why I have the utmost respect for nearly Fuller, but this is why I disagree. He's in the mindset, well, a little bit more cornbread is better than the little piece of cornbread that we did have,

right? But he's also a boomer. So he is different. But I rather keep his analogy, keep rattling my chains. Yeah, he's got some good ones in there. Right? I keep I rather me personally, rather keep rattling in my chains than to be bought off for another little few more crumbs. Because I understand the power that was laid out in the clips by Malcolm X. Right. It's there's real power, political power there is just that we and that's the best never realized.

And that's the best enslavement is when you I mean, in general, all Americans, collectively, we have incredible power, we are much more powerful than the government. But when we do, but when you don't know it when you've been taught not to think that way. When you're told that the people you elect are your leaders. That's one of my personal pet peeves, like come on. My leader. It's my employee. You know, but that's that's been programmed for years and years and years. Thank God for podcasting.

All right, so we've talked about why black people have voted Democratic for the Democrats. Close out I want to talk about why black people have not voted for the Republicans. And to do that. I want to use one of our show favorites, Mr. Stephen A. Smith. Stephen A said that every black person in America should vote Republican for at least one election. Stephen A Smith is joining me now Steven, who are you trying to send a message to Republicans, Democrats, African Americans, all of the above?

I'd go with all of the above that sounds about right, but specifically the Democratic Party from the standpoint that I definitely believe that the black vote has been taken for granted. And primarily the black community is at fault in my estimation, in that regard, simply because on one hand, we're giving one party I vote because they've successfully gone about the business of convincing our community that the other party, the Republican Party is completely against the

interests of the black community. And as a result, we've been very transparent. And I support, we've bought it hook, line and sinker, we look at the Republican Party, I'm not talking about every single one of us, of course, but vast majority of black Americans look at the Republican Party as the enemy, we look at the Democratic Party, who even tacitly has our support base. And as a result, we are very transparent in our support for them. So because of it, they have a license to take

us for granted. The Republican Party has a light to our license to summarily dismiss us because they believe they'll never get our vote anyway. And then we end up finding ourselves devoid of any kind of representation whatsoever, because nobody is really competing to garner our vote and our support. Well, that is very clear. I thought he laid it out quite clear, while we vote Democratic CLI or Democrat for the Democrats, and while we don't

vote for Republicans, I can't say it any better myself. But of course, he had to go back. Oh, I had to recant his statements, because as he did, excuse me, has got a little level of meaning out here in the corner office. Talk to you about what you said. Steven, can we talk to you in the office for a minute? And what he really wanted to say would don't vote. I think what you had to vote but you had, they got to keep you voting? I think not voting is even saying to vote for the other party. Let

me tell you, it's less dangerous. You could not go on a mainstream television program and say, I recommend people not vote. Immediately everyone will be uber patriot. How can you say that? This is the worst thing in the world. I can no one could say it. Nobody can say that on mainstream television. Ever. And let's let's not forget that got Mr. Kaepernick canceled. That's right. Temporarily. You go by by Mr. Stephen A Smith. Yeah, you so he was like, Okay, we need to go the other

direction. But then he, you know, he had to come in and remind everybody that he was a black man. Okay, so good. Thank God. I forgot. Yeah. Yeah, it is. So, um, to close out the show, I have some clips from a YouTube channel called Black public media. And this video was entitled black folks don't vote Republican.

By one point. Black folks did vote Republican people like Zora Neale Hurston, for instance, you know, at the time of the Emancipation Proclamation, Abraham Lincoln was Republican Franklin Delano Roosevelt ushered in shifts around how black people voted from the Republican party to the Democratic Party. And then the father, the Tea Party came along, you know, was Barry Goldwater, and presented his whole extreme conservativism idea, and I think he's sort of steered us away.

Also, the Republican community has done a poor job of reaching out to the black community and helping us understand their values as they have progressed over time. So we just kind of used to voting. Mom was Democrat, Dad was Democrat, I'm a Democrat. I'm a Democrat. They talk about the middle class, or they don't ask you to pull yourself up by your own bootstraps. When you don't have boots. Democrats seem to want to share the wealth. You know, Republicans

like now it's mine. I work for this shit. This is mine. How old are these fine people? It was a various different ages, but most of them were maybe late mid 30s to late 40s. But one person said in that video, mom's Democrat dad and Democrat I'm a Democrat. I'm a Democrat. Yep. Alright, so and they even acknowledge that black folks started voting Republican but that the that you can hear it didn't explicitly say it but you can hear the Southern Strategy Oh, yeah. mentality. Oh, yeah. It's

in there for sure. It was it was in there. I mean, they were just oh, it just something happened is miraculous, which I'm telling you Kennedy assassination. memory hole. That's, that's a fascinating, fascinating observation. And I liken that to maybe a 911 the same way Oh, trauma, trauma, the trauma. Everything else is a blur after that. I mean, because you can't even remember like, we a lot of stuff you think you think and TV clips. Exactly. But when you actually try to

remember it. Yeah. It's really a blur. So the final clip Have we have black folks don't vote Republican to black folks don't vote Republican. For the last part, probably not in droves. I thankfully don't have any friends or family members that wouldn't vote Republican that I know of. If they are, they're closeted Republicans. I honestly feel like there's a secret society of Black Republican voters somewhere. I don't know who they are. They're

not in this like one of my family. I won't put her out there like that. But think about the Ben Carson's of the world and Michael Steel's of the world and what I've accepted, is it any idea that comes out that's created by human beings, we're always going to find someone to believe in it. Now, the black people that vote Republican, tend to be a little cray cray black vote, don't vote Republican because we don't trust whitey. Okay, that's pretty clear that the programming is working mo

gram. Is it successful? They're closing it. Yeah, imagine to say, because our vote is political way. You're closeted, man. And the time we live in where everybody's accepted, you know? Intersectionality Yep, share. Craig Craig. You have to be Craig Craig. I'm Republican. And I'm not calling her out. out I'm not going to call it for beer. And that To summarize, well, either you have to vote. You have to vote let me just let me just tell you something from from cracker

nation over here. I was at the hair salon that is believe it or not mo political conversation takes place in the hair salon. A just like the barber shop, except my hair salon is filled with women. And okay. And I know the woman who does my hair. We talk politics you know, we're not on the same page but we both agreed that she's very she sees the show. So a woman next to us overhears it without really being prompted she just steps he

said oh my god. Let me just I don't know I don't know where you stand politically but one of my clients he said if I had stage four cancer I'd get a gun and go kill them motherfucker. So this kind of idiocy is everywhere across all lines and boundaries in barbarous making people sick and it's making me very sick various makes people sick. And I'll make this my last statement. We we lost a large economy a Cummings a few maybe a few months ago a month

ago. And we heard the tragic news. Yes about his name slips my mind now. He has pancreatic doppelganger. What's his name? Oh, you this is you shouldn't have done this. Lewis Lewis Lewis. Lewis, John Lewis, John Lewis. Damn. So it was only a shell. But you don't have to remember that. It's not important. But I want to point out that people are being getting sick. Exactly. Exactly. Stage four pancreatic cancer this that they're seeking to Congressman that may have been heavy anti Trump errs,

have calling him a racist, calling him a racist dad. And the other one is, has a severe, severe illness. And how many other talk media people have been announced. So you know, this is so interesting. I've been talking about this being unhealthy for so long. And I and you just brought it up again. And I think that we are now into year four of of this. And it's I think identified early on, certainly people who hate Trump when no matter what their political affiliation.

They started swearing and cussing more on TV and radio and podcasts. Just Yes. And it's popping out and it's like, ooh, ah, and it's become a little more okay. And, and I always saw that as incredible. If you can't hold that back in a in a situation where it's not appropriate on the show. It's appropriate, you know, we don't overuse anything. But on television, cable news is not appropriate. And when you can't

hold that in it, then you've got stuff rooted very deeply. And when you hold that in, and you're holding that for years, I think you and I'm going to keep track of this, too. People are going to start dropping, it's these old guys first. And they can see the young with aging, you can see them aging right before your eyes. And the reason why I'm bringing this up is the V for V, the value for value, even if you think we're two

idiots this babbling along, what we try to do is this. We laugh, you know, we, we want to talk people down off the ledge, well, well get providing some educational value. So if you don't take anything away from the show, too, but to laugh about the things that we talk about, or do, you know, just have a little fun for a couple hours? You know, that's the value that I hope that we provide, if nothing else, if you don't take anything else away from the show.

And what we'd like to ask for in return is that you consider returning some of that value is actually a very simple exercise. So like, shall you've been listening to this for about an hour and a half a little bit longer? What is your time worth that? If you go see a movie, it's about we're about the length of a movie. And you come away from this learning something and you still laughed. Please consider us at mo fund me.com mov fund me.com. Mo fi mo facts.com is our, our our main

website. And Mo, I think you've set everybody up for perfect 2020. I'd like to ask you one question before we go having having Sure. No, I haven't gone through this journey with you. Do you think this is the year that the block regardless of what happens? The black block B to B squared? realizes realizes what power it has? Will the is this realization going to be mainstream enough? I think it only takes a certain percentage. And then the rest of

the block blocker follows. So we are saying that is if you can get 20 to 25% to realize it, then the rest will go along. And that's very and I think we're reaching that nexus point of because you're hearing the different groups have these conversations you're hearing it come from the the conservative side, the super woke millennial side of the the I'm not going to vote unless I get some tangible side, which I wish I'm a part

of. We're all coming to the same point from different angles. And I think once we get there and we see the results of it, somebody's gonna have to come talk to us. Yeah, and I think for me, for me, it'll be interesting to see not whether you'll see a block vote for Democrats or with withheld vote. I think I think we may even see withheld vote, or something goes to Trump. I think that's where it may be. Because if we hit that 55% mark of the low all time low 50 55% Mark is Open Season for

the blog. Now could I entertain? Can I make one suggestion? Sure. Instead of withholding I mean, the tangible is a free pony from the guy with the Buddha on his head vermin supreme. Right? Because he's promising everybody a pony. That may be maybe it's a tangible that may be a guy to vote for. I have voted for him in the past. So I just like you to consider that. Who is this guy? You've never heard of vermin supreme? No, he's a real candidate. He wears some boots on his head and promises

everybody a pony. He runs every year. He's a great candidate to vote for. Well, he thought 40 acres and with a pony he might have. Alright, everybody have a have a great, a great New Year Mo was fantastic. This show has made my year. Fantastic. I love the work you do. I love working with you. And I can't wait until our next show and 2020 show 20 The first show of 2020 just let that soak in. And as I always say, pay attention to everything and the truth will reveal itself.

I'll talk to you next year. Mo Alright, see you next year. Remember mo facts.com Bye everybody. No, you don't. And there may be someone else. As I sit alone knowing what I should do. I can't stay away. I can stay away from you. Know I can stay and that's the way it ought to be You. You always wondered fine. Do I have as you asked you with me you've been so