16: Whiteballed

The facts with Adam curry for November 25 2019. This is episode number 16. Now that's an opening and happy fourth month anniversary Mo Yeah, we have what's that 16 shows is four months. Yeah, give or take some change. Yeah, pretty much we, man we're moving and grooving along here. Man, I'm enjoying every bit of it. Did Oh my friend Ditto. So today what is today is the 25th of

November 2019. We got a brand new mo facts with Adam curry lined up for you and what we discussed what the topic would be, which would be I think if I looked at the clips, we are deconstructing Colin Kaepernick. Is that right? Yes, I've waited to broach this topic because I knew he was going to be ever evolving story ever since he came onto the scene. And I think we reached a somewhat of a climax with the story. Oh, okay. So you mean the story's ending? It's over. That's it. It's done.

Well, well, I think there will be one more final scene like with any good movie, you know, um, you have the pick what they call the math. Right after the comic? Oh, the epilogue. Yes. So I think we'll have that that portion still left. Okay. Well, I think now is we reached the climax. I think he's completely done with the NFL. And I think both sides are happy about that. Oh, really? Yeah. Okay. All right. And preface for this. I'm

not a sports guy. So I don't know really much other than, you know, some of the stuff we've looked into with the social justice warrior angle. So I hope to learn a lot today. So that's, I'm glad you're not a sports fan. And I didn't make any assumptions. So what we're going to do is build up from the very moment that he refused to stand all the way up to where we asked up today. Oh, perfect. Excellent. All right, so let's get right into it. Refuse to stand.

It's the rare occasion when sports and politics collide and an NFL quarterback has certainly ignited a firestorm. We're talking about Colin Kaepernick. He's the San Francisco 40 Niners quarterback, and he's been refusing to stand for the national anthem before all three preseason games in protest. Ron's here with the reason behind his activism. And this reaction has been swift from every side.

It really has no Kaepernick, who just a few years ago, three years ago, led the San Francisco 40 Niners to the Super Bowl is well known for speaking out on social issues, that what he's doing now is a protest over police killings of African Americans is drawing a huge reaction condemnation from many

and support from others. This morning, the spotlight on football star Colin Kaepernick for taking a stand by refusing to stand San Francisco 40 Niners quarterback remaining seated during the playing of the national anthem at three

preseason games. A protest he says over police brutality against African Americans kapernick saying in an interview, I am not going to stand up to show pride in a flag for a country that oppresses black people and people of color adding to me this is bigger than football, and it would be selfish on my part to look the other way. Yeah, this is how most people were introduced to Colin Kaepernick social actions. But of course, we know this a little bit more behind the

story. Because I think he was just sitting down because he was tired and wasn't in the game, if I recall correctly. Actually. Let me give a little timeline prior to him city. Okay, so on June 4. Colin Kaepernick sign a record. Right signed a record six year extension for $126 million. That was June 4 on 2014. Then he asked the problems in San Francisco during that season. And in November 2 2015, he was benched. And then that's when we came into February 26 2016.

export trade. And then he came back the following season. That was the August 26 2016. And he was noticed sitting, sit and notice the key words sitting during the national anthem. Right? Right sitting not kneeling sitting on the bench, right? I remember and that's going to be a very important detail and we're going to get to that but it was captured by Jennifer Lee Chan and she was the the photographer for the San Francisco 40 Niners actually captured a picture of him and tweeted it out of him

sitting at the back of the bench. He wasn't a very very back on the sidelines sitting on the bench while the other players are standing for the national anthem. So Well, up to this point he's taking a seat um from what I thought was I think he thought think he was just being a malcontent because he

wasn't the starter anymore. He has had some problems with injury and I just think that he I mean, this is my personal opinion and when I cuz I follow sports that I just took it as him like I said, being a malcontent because he didn't have the starting role that he was used to right in like a baby. Pretty pretty much pouting. Yeah, there you go. Oh, my god like malcontents. Sounds so official. So um, Harry Edwards, we have to look and see who he is because he's important to the story.

Sociologists Harry Edwards has been an activist from the day he realized that sport wasn't the toy department of human life. Edwards, a professor emeritus at Cal Berkeley, was the chief organizer of the Olympic Project for Human Rights and the guiding force behind John Carlos and Tommie Smith 1968 Olympic protests. Decades later, he's advised Colin Kaepernick on his protests and publicly advocated for the quarterbacks returned to the NFL, a former basketball player at San Jose State,

Edwards first organized protests at his alma mater. Over the years, he's worked for a number of sports teams and leaves consulting on issues of diversity. Because of his outspokenness, he's received death threats and been viewed by the FBI as a national security threat. As Edward said recently, the last words out of his mouth will probably be I protest, he's done in his whole life, changing the sports world in the process.

Right, and I think Kaepernick was friends with him or talk with him or took advice from him. Well, he was Kaepernick, quote unquote, mentor, there you go. Our advisor, or maybe from the school of thought I have handler. Nice. Yes, of course. Honestly, honestly, we believe Colin Kaepernick is a useful idiot. Some maybe some have used the term I've heard in the conspiracy realm of a MK MK Ultra. Nice. So we've know for sure Mr. Harry Edwards has been advising him.

And it makes nothing but sense if he advised him on taking the seat. Because they as I mentioned in the previous clip, he advised Carlos Edwards not forget the other gentleman's name, to make the process that the six data Olympics with the black black fits the Black Power Fist. Yep. Yeah. So he was the brains behind that. So this is where we are. So in the next clip, we're going to hear Mr. Harry Edwards speak on Colin Kaepernick. So what's the next step for modern day athletes in what you

call the struggle? Now, the thing is power. And the issue becomes for them, how do we frame it up, so that we can move forward and make our contribution? Right now, Colin Kaepernick, San Francisco for tonight as a team that I've been with for 31 years is the face of that effort. We have a lot of work to do in terms of trying to figure out exactly where this was going to end up in terms of the framing and how are you how are you helping him frame that? Well, basically, it's, it's,

it's an ongoing conversation. He's very, very bright. Colin is very, very bright. He's very, very committed. More than anything else, he wants to have a constructive impact. He understands the evolution of this movement in athletics going back to the pre World War Two years, he's aware of that. More than anything else, I tried to answer his questions, and to put everything in perspective and give him a broader handle on exactly where he is, and what he's involved in. And as much as

anything else. The price, the cost of what he is doing. And he's good with all of that. cup. Okay. Oh, interesting. So he's been briefed on what it's like to be an activist and I gotta say, two things about that. But first of all, Harry Edwards looks badass. I'm looking at his picture on the Wikipedia. The band is like a shaft guy is. Yeah, in the goatee. Yeah, and second, keep saying Colin, was that too? I don't know if it's just a weird pronunciation

of His name, but yeah, I picked up on that as well. But he says he, Colin almost say calling myself Colin on was was aware of the price that it was going to cost him right. When we look at Colin Kaepernick, and I have to say this, up until this point, before him taking the seat, he was not known or a little bit before taking the seat. He wasn't known as a as a activist. Now, he was a GQ pretty boy. Yes, that's what he was known for. eveness even to the point where he I can't find a picture.

And I've challenged anybody that I've talked to, I'll give them $100 To find Colin Kaepernick and a Trayvon hoodie, or Trayvon Martin hoodie, because that was the easiest protest to have on your social media account, to you know, when Trayvon Martin was killed, one of the process you saw was people taking pictures with the hoodie on, right, you saw it wave all the way up to Congress. I mean, you politicians, everybody, but I cannot find one single picture of Colin Kaepernick with the

hoodie on now. And that's just that's strange to me. Do you have a Trayvon hoodie? No. Okay. Why wouldn't Why would he have one because that was what everybody was doing. It was everybody. It was like, it was almost like a challenge. You know, kind of that kind of vibe that you had, um, you know what people would change their filter on their on their icons? Oh, socially. Oh, yes. Yeah, yeah, it was that kind of thing. It was like, so for him to be a so called Kournikova activist, a

social justice warrior. And that to be absent. I just I think that speaks to that. He is new to this game. Right. Okay. Agreed. That makes sense. I do have a picture of a car. I'm trying to get my 100 bucks. I have a picture of him and a hoodie. But it's his own hoodie. It's the deer racism on not my grandparents. Sincerely these hands. Yeah, so you're not gonna You can post that you can find

pictures, even with him with Trayvon Martin's parents. But at the time, on his social media, I haven't found anywhere and nobody has collected the $100. So Gotcha. So now we have to look at who all has a vested interest and common cabinet being activists. There's a few people that I want to bring to light that people may not be aware of. One of them being Miss nessa D AB, which is Colin Kaepernick, girlfriend, Taylor's the girlfriend. Yes. Before we get into this, this next clip

about her. I want to give a little feedback. I mean, a little background on how they got together. Well, nessa D AB used to date Colin Kaepernick ex teammate, all this Smith. And there was a report and I didn't want to get into the gossipy side, too much of the story. I wanted to keep you're just on the activism, and the political side that we normally pay attention to. But they supposedly got into a fight. And it was well reported on several sports news stations. They got

to our locker room fight and root cause was behind. She started dating Colin and broke it off with Alden. So that's how they came about. So let's just get into some background on Miss nessa Diaz. Oh, I understand that you're dating Colin Kaepernick he is we're talking about him a lot these days. He is amazing. What are your thoughts on him sitting and the kind of the controversy that's surrounding? I support him? 100% you know, and I think it's amazing that he's able to

exercise his freedom of speech. And I think that that's what makes being an American amazing is that we can be open and we can say these things. And this is something that's important. And I think that we should use this to have open dialogue and take steps to make this country a better place to live in. Now they don't have like a conversation before this. Did

you know it was coming? Did you think he ever anticipated would blow up this big because I mean, you Colin truly feels this he lives this and it's from his heart and that's what makes this so beautiful, because this wasn't pre planned. You know? Oh my god that is couldn't resist for Amazings in there, and I knew you were gonna do it. And it was important all kinds.

That's just me paying attention to Well, no, it's important that you caught that because we have to do the background on Miss Nessa. Yeah, she is she's from Cal Berkeley as well, right Mr. Harry Edwards got she was a star student. She started Cal Berkeley at 17. And she did she take sociology classes from the professor communications. Oh, communication, right? She's a popular DJ on one of the popular urban radio stations in New York. She went to MTV KTVU

BLS. What's I think it was power power. 95. Yes, power 90 Not to maybe don't quote me on that. But the one of the major two I think is 10106 95. Wanted to make her to she was the VJ DJ there. She was on the popular show girl code. TV. She in? Doesn't seem you ever seen that girl code show? Yes. Oh, my God. It's it's jarring. It's a fine piece of mocker show they have going there you go. That's it. Yes. So in this clip, she says that her and Colin didn't discuss

this. Wish it either way I read it. If you want to believe that they didn't discuss this, then this was just a spur of the moment thing he had going and had no plan as what people want to paint it as to be Oh, he had this grand plan to bring social awareness. But I don't believe that. I don't believe that. I believe that. It was discussed. Because just a little foreshadowing here. She, she is she's gonna play a very active role in this protest, as we start going down to clips here.

So I don't think she just got pulled in at the last minute. Right. So this is a data point of view saying, you know, as we unfold the mind control or whatever it she could also be a sub handler, I guess is what we're saying here. We're gonna get there. As always, God. No, put on the goggles. Oh, you're restricting goggles? Oh, I think yes. I do have to put those on where I didn't hear they let me put my glasses on one second. takes a minute. Okay, thank you future is now black. Okay. Right now.

Inside joke Nice. Okay. So there was one more influence that the media doesn't talk about. And that is the Trent, the transgender female, Mia Isabella, the other name that you get linked up with a lot, and it's especially been happening more because he's been in the news, Colin Kaepernick. Is that something you're going to be addressing on the on the podcast? Is there a story to address there?

I'll take my time with that. Yeah, that's somebody that I extremely I respect extremely, you actually care for extremely think he's an incredible person that they braveness that he's showing now I admire and I feel like maybe has something to do with him making him feel bold enough to be the kind of person he's become lately. How did you do that? We had a great friendship, great connection. And we talked a lot. I'll say that. During the tiger situation, someone saw some kind of social media.

By the way. I should point out something that you were like, you were like, Okay, I had this plan with Tiger. One. I just if we ever got if we ever got exposed, we would just tell everybody that we were really good friends. Oh, shit. And then I was like, hey, what about Colin Kaepernick? Well, I'll say we're just really good. Okay, well, that kind of explains that went away and how you want it, right. Okay, this is interesting. Nia isa Bella. You

set her up as a transgender. She's a transgender pornographic actress. Wow, I didn't know that. I mean, I'm doing Show Notes these days, and I'm doing the wiki page. And here it is. Mia Isabella. Show notes right. An American transgender former I'm sorry, former pornographic actress as she won her last AVN award. She's the adult Video Awards. Oh, no, she wasn't an ex biz award in 2014. I guess she quit the biz after that one. She she left on a high note.

Well, my question is just for an hour I'm gonna take her from the intersectionality standpoint. Why she not all over the news. She It would be perfect. Right? Right. Right. Column stands with the transgender community. Yeah. I think I know why because that would hurt him and other demographics, but black men who watched football pretty much like an underdog understand that? Sure. So just leading up to the next clip, how was she made? Not to

be in the spotlight. But you do you think you inspired him to fired me, I think even during the situation that I was going through, this was a person who made sure to keep in contact with me and made sure to kind of just make me feel like I could stand up to anything. And I think it was a probably an important moment for him as well, to see how the world was reacting to me and how people were kind of just really trashing me, and how I was still trying my best to stand as tall

and represent and protect people. I was at a really, extremely low point. I was frightened is that because it was after the tiger stuff was during the time I was I was so afraid of what was happening. I didn't know what was going on. Like I said, when you're dealing with crisis management people contacting you and attorneys and PR people and all that all the

media like every show out there. I'm on TMZ I'm on Monday when I see all this stuff happening and I'm just like what in the world is going on? I missed something I missed the the tiger fight what what what did I miss? Okay, so Tiger is a rapper. Right? Thanks. Thanks, smoke, give me a little bit of credit. Just a teeny bit of credit. Okay, so I will, I'm giving his title who used to date Kylie Jenner. Oh,

Mia, Isabella came out and somehow got linked to Tiger. And that's when the whole whirlwind started up about her with Tiger and she like said crisis managers, attorneys TMC myself, Tigers know where biggest celebrities Colin Kaepernick is so why didn't he have all the crisis management going on? Exactly. Using when something is missing. It's meant to be there on purpose. When something is like I mean, that's why I played that last clip to show you that's the normal course of these things

happening. And Tigers a way smaller celebrity, as I stated before, and then Colin Kaepernick, so you expect the same thing TMZ will be knocking down her door, they will be chasing her around trying to put a microphone in her face. What you know about Colin, what you know about Colin, but none of that happened? How do you? How do you know that target or that Colin is a much bigger celebrity. I mean, it's if it's hard, it's hard for me to see

sports guys that had the music celebrity level. But that's just me because I don't have that background. It's because he crossed over me. He was a he was a pretty big star, just being a sports star. But even now he's made it he's bigger than he was when he played football. Got it? Now I'm not I'm not questioning it. I'm just trying to understand. Yeah, he's a he's a he's a social media. Superstar now got it. I mean, even his silhouette is iconic.

And yeah, iconic, iconic, iconic, and designed as such. Exactly. So just getting off of the background people. I just want to lay all those people out there. And you know, just to say, who who was who was in his circle and nice crier. He's got a bunch of friends. Why are there people missing from the story? Why are there people there's highlighted in this story. And then we're going

to see, I mean, how they all play out in the future. But I want to just want to do the background or and lay down the foundation there. So now we have the X. Why was it such a big deal? That he took a knee during the national anthem? Do you have any any clue ideas? Um, yes, I do. Yes, I do Mo and the reason why I do is because we looked at this story on no agenda. And the biggest problem is, it's a television show. And the television show is paid for by

sponsors and a big one. Around the time of the anthem is the United States military, who pay millions of dollars to have jets fly over and soldiers marching on the field and flags and all kinds of stuff. Number seven, there's a scheme involving the Pentagon that Congress is trying to shut down. It's called paid patriotism. We're talking about millions of dollars that are being funneled from the Pentagon to proof professional sports teams around the country every

single year. In return, the sports teams honor American soldiers, and they promote the military at their sporting events. I guess you could think of it as sort of like product placement. You know, Jose, you're watching your favorite YouTube video might not seem like a commercial. But in the back, there's a perfect can of Bud Light just facing right

towards you. That wasn't an accident. It is a commercial that these advertisers want to put in your face without you knowing that it's actually an advertisement that you're watching. This is sort of the same thing, according to John McCain, who actually looked really into it. And that's in itself. It's surprising that Republicans are going after

this. I think that's awesome. Anyway, according to John McCain, who's now our Senate Armed Services Committee Chairman, since 2012, the Pentagon paid at least $6.8 million in contracts to teams in the NFL, the MLB, NHL and the MLS. Major League Soccer. Yes, there's a soccer league in this country. That's less than I thought that was for one year. Yeah. And so I think that number goes to the way bigger Yeah, it goes to the NFL, not the teams, right? It goes to the NFL.

Right? Because they didn't they had these individual deals. Yeah, well, they own the turn on the television. Yeah, the NFL, onto the TV, right. So Right. So per action per team, there was still more money being funneled to the teams, like if you recognize this particular person will give you 20k I mean, homework. Yeah. So I mean, it's just not me. It's bigger than me saying it has me has to be mean, it has to be so. Um, so let's just get into the second part of this clip.

I have the number here the New York Jets football team received $20,000 from the Pentagon, for what just to recognize one or two New Jersey Army National Guard soldiers at halftime kind of hailing them as Hometown Heroes. I've seen that a games before they kind of come in and they say their names and everyone applauds. But I didn't know that the Pentagon was secretly paying for these kinds of things. Now, I'm all for, you

know, promotion of the military. I don't mind if I'm watching television, and I see those those those commercials for the Marines or whatever. I think it's unnecessary. I don't blame them. Everyone does that. But at the same time, if the Pentagon is doing it in a way that we don't know, kind of like a Bud Light sneaks their little cans in there. I almost feel like they're trying to brainwash the masses. I don't know. Am I

looking into this too much? Am I being too sensitive? I just think it's weird that they kind of do it in this secretive way. It kind of changes how they're going about. And it's weird. Yeah, we call this native advertising. It's been around for a while. And it's, of course, the whole point is to be subversive to sneak it in. And it since we're talking about mind control, it's totally what it is. And so sports is almost synonymous with war. If you

listen to the terminology. You got the bomb. You got the Blitz. Yeah, you know. The wishbone. Oh, right. That's yeah. I mean, a lot of yeah, a lot. A lot of it. Yeah. A lot of the terms are military term course. A military term. You got uniforms, you're fighting, fight, fight, fight. Yes, of course. And then, but this is human nature and humans need this. This is what the Romans figured out. You know, we need the games we need to otherwise we're gonna go beat each other up.

Bread and Circuses circus. Yep. And this is where a lot of people got pissed off with Colin Kaepernick. And I was one of them. Don't interject politics into my own football. My control is yes, you'd like you'd like to buy the Gatorade and all the other stuff that they're mind controlling you with, but not the politics part that's going forward? Yeah, not not even. It's okay. I have to admit, I'm a huge fantasy sports guy, fantasy football, fantasy basketball.

And for three to four hours a week, allows me to unwind and not think about anything else is going on in the world. Except my little fantasy team. And my group of 11 other guys I had finished up with and we kind of go back to childhood. Right? Well, you can ask me all you want, but I'm not into fantasy, anything Well, right. But of course, I understand. Yeah, I totally get that. So we you start injecting bowl cry bowl crap crap into my mental

escape. Because that's what it is. I mean, television is I mean, we all have I mean, even though I'm probably the most one of the most aware of people when it comes to mind control and propaganda and all these things. We all have that little thing that we tap into. That's our escape. Yeah, for a few hours for sure. Whether it's reality TV show or whatever. So mine is sports, so I can empathize with people. They say What the hell

are you doing, man? I don't want to I don't want to talk about social justice issues or politics during my three hour football game. I had nothing to do with what he was protesting. You even had the people spraying this up with with the with the breast cancer and the guys wearing pink like, Why didn't wearing pink for pink shoes? Sure. Yeah. So you, but it's not something you I mean, there's no Pearl broken breast cancer people out there. So it's not I mean, it's not like it's

polarizing. Oh, right. Yeah. Good point. So you have this propaganda going on at that pre game. And then you have this guy is that is the fly in the ointment interrupting that. So somebody has had to change. So the question was, why, why Colin Kaepernick to the knee? What was your initial response? When you saw the Colin Kaepernick set for the national anthem? I'll be completely honest, my initial response was was anger. You know, I was angry and disappointed because I grew up

in Niner fan and I was pulling for this guy. Now he just pissed on my flag. But then I just stopped making all these judgments and tried to listen to what he's talking about, and specifically is police brutality. And the more I thought about it, the more I was, like, I want to try to understand where he's coming from at least someone because I hadn't walked around in his shoes, but he hasn't walked around in my boots. You know what I mean? So I just wrote a

letter, and he got a hold of it. He contacted you. Yeah, he contacted me. He said he was inspired by it. And he was wanting to sit down with me and just have a discussion. First thing he said we met was, I just want you to know, I appreciate your service more than anything I expressed to him, maybe there's a different way to demonstrate where you're showing more respect for those that lay down their lives for what that

flag and anthem stands for. I suggested, you know, kneeling, because people kneel to pray, you know, will kneel in front of a fallen brother's grave, you know, to show respect, and he said, I think that would be really powerful. Kaepernick choosing not to sit on the bench this time, but to take a knee, the fact that he was willing to listen and go to a knee versus sitting I thought was huge. That's an important

step that he's taken. I think other people need to take a step to and maybe listen to it. I remember this. And this is for me the weirdest link in the story, because I believe this is a Greenbrae. And the Greenbrae is the one who said, who urged him instead of sitting, which was not in protest, because we just, I mean, that's obvious because he was pouty. So I'm not sure what the what's the guy's name, the Greenbrae Nate Boyer, Nate Boyer. He fits in somehow,

but it's never really been investigated. Until today. Hopefully. I'll we're going to go to all the anti Mr. Nate warrior, but good now, Adam, um, this. Super woke so so Search Social Justice Warrior. And he'd come to his Greenbrae army guy telling me hey, you only be sitting down you need to take a knee and I say, Oh, yeah. Okay. Good idea. Sounds very plausible to me at all. Um, so we have to get into Who is this Nate Borja character? Why him?

Why Nick Boyer with a controversy that straddled both football and patriotism. Why was his perspective so unique? It was actually interested in joining the military right out of high school. But after 911 He really wanted to join the Special Forces. He wanted to become a Greenbrae. He was deployed initially to Iraq. He got out of the army for a short period, and that's when he applied to University of Texas.

Lawyer wasn't your typical college player. He tried to make the Longhorns football team as a 31 year old walk on an older guy that wasn't a tremendous athlete that didn't play high school football that wants to join a national championship program. I mean, come on now. Huh? Yeah, come on now. Interesting. Yeah. Interesting. 31 years old and wants to join the Longhorns. The number like

the main national championship level, Longhorns team, yes. And he somehow walks on as a long snapper, which is probably the least important position on a football team. All right, you got to explain the long snapper is when someone's field goal for field goal. I'm just guessing. Yeah. For golden punch. That's the guy. That's the guy that hikes the ball back to the kicker or the place the guy that's holding the ball for the guy Gotta keep Yeah, this interest only

job. I never realized that wasn't the regular quarterback who does that. Senator? Yeah, that's what I mean, Senator. Yeah, of course. It's the Senator. Oh, yeah. Well, yeah, he's a special type of Senator. Yeah. Oh snap, because he does one thing very well. That's it. All you got to do is get the ball back to in the guy's hands. Right. And they let the 31 year old walk on Greenbrae specials Force guy, Soldier get the job. And he'd never played organized football in his life.

Ever. Hmm. That's not suspicious at all, at all. Nate warrior too. And he said, You're losing your first and second team deep snapper. And I can do that. And I said, Have you ever done it? He said, No, never done a day in my life. We'll take a ball coach and I'm gonna go to Afghanistan. And I'm gonna practice every day. And I'll come back as your deep stamper and I thought Trump, this is gonna work. Number 37. He started on every snap for the next three years. We had him

take an American flag on the field. Every time we would come out. He became a team leader. Many college football players have their summers off. Boyer spent his with the Special Forces in Afghanistan. After his college career ended in 2014, the 34 year old former longmorn had another long shot in mind earning a spot on an NFL roster. They called and said Coach Do you think I'll be drafted lesson? I'm gonna be honest with you says unlikely for you to

make it because of your size. And because of your age. In the 2015 preseason. Boyer got his NFL shot with the Seahawks in his only NFL game. He carried the American flag on to CenturyLink Field. Oh, okay. Here's what I think. It sounds to me like this guy was doing a little bit of native advertising for the United States military. And they placed him initially with the Longhorns. Which, by the way, I live in Austin. It's a fine military industrial complex city. Lots of spooks lots of

stuff going on. Lots of retired military so it sounds like he was a he was a part of his gig was promoting America and military on the field. And it worked for both parties because hit now you have this guy, and they showed in this piece that I snagged the clip from, which was from the NFL channel in NFL films. He's at the combine and that's where you have the potential players that's coming up for the draft and as his huge gaggle of press

around while pressing around him. Now he's a 34 year old long, long snapper huh? undersized? Not my words. That was Max brown Mack Browns words from from the Longhorns. undersized, 34 years old, which at 34 years old, you're you're over the hill. And you're the end of your prom for professional football players. Now, did you? Did you already find this very suspicious in putting together your fantasy team? I'm sure he didn't include the shill?

No, I found it very. As I started peeling back the layers coming soon. And I saw Colin Kaepernick in the news we're taking make it a political stance. I was like, oh, what Colin Kaepernick, um, that that will be the birth. Let me be honest with you. I'm gonna be completely 100% honest with you. My first thing was Colin Kaepernick is black. You thought it was like some kind of Drake. Like he was he was very racially we use this term, racially

ambiguous him and he could be Hispanic. He could be air. I mean, you didn't. I mean, when you saw him, especially when his hair cut short as he is. When he was yeah, he looks much more Hispanic than right. So I was like, that was my first thing was that took me aback. I'm like, he's black. And then after that, I'm like, he, like you said he's a GQ model. Yeah. He wasn't concerned with because you have certain players in the NFL that are known for being for being

outspoken on social issues. You have Michael Bennett, you had what's the guy from Seattle Seahawks? I forget his name, but it's a few of them that you know, but he would not this guy, not Colin Kaepernick as he saw started this is Kaepernick a Das? I don't know what is the reason why I say that is his mother's white. Was that mean that doesn't matter. Right? And they don't I won't speak of his father. And he was adopted by a white family. I think it five weeks old. So I mean, we don't

know much about his history, which it doesn't matter. I mean, in the grass. No, it was just because this is the MO facts show. Yeah, it was just shocking that he was black period. Right? Because and the reason why, let me explain why I say this for people like what does it matter? When that black quarterback comes in the NFL? That's a usually they label it as a black quarterback. I mean, cuz this this. Yeah, so you can we

handle. So we have, we have a Super Bowl in recent memory with two black quarterbacks, and they made a big deal out of it. Yes, and every time a black quarterback goes to the Super Bowl, they make a big deal out of every time a black quarterback is drafted, they make a big deal out of it, because the usual Mo is the black quarterback is going to

play a certain style of football. And that was the that was knock against the black quarterback because they were like in the 70s and 60s is they don't have the mental capacity to to to play the position, you know, so that's really Yeah, I'm laughing but you even did it with a sports announcer voice I like that. Well, clearly these Americans don't have the mental capacity for quarterbacking. That was the justification. So we are very sensitive when it

black quarterback comes into the NFL. So that's what took me aback about Colin Kaepernick. So then when the Green Beret thing came up, like hold on, and they you posed to be these so called unquote, quote unquote, radical that you let a military guy come in and tell you to take a knee which as he said in the clip himself, taking a knee is like a sign of obedience. Yes. So I was like, book bull crap. I mean, I started calling it bull crap

from the very beginning, which was very unpopular. Wish it's very common for me to be on the very unpopular side. Not not with the with the girls, huh? Yeah, um, yeah, I'm just the, you know, just the troublemaker. So this thing plays out and he's taking his knee and he gets he gets his job back to play football, and he's still taking the knee for the 40 Niners in the same season that he originally started taking the knee. But even Colin Kaepernick

is certain things that no black person could ever say. And he touched a third rail of Blackstone of not voting. At this point. I'm sure Colin kapernick is used to receiving backlash, but after letting it be known that he had no intentions of voting, many of his supporters jumped off the bandwagon. So young cat felt compelled to explain his position, the conference call with members of the press, I've been very disconnected from the systematic oppression as a whole

Kaepernick said. So for me, it's another face that's going to be the face of that system of oppression. And to me, it didn't really matter who went in there, the system remains intact that

oppresses people of color. Nevermind that University of Alabama football coach Nick Saban admitted he wasn't even aware that there was an election, the media, and namely Stephen A Smith sounded off on Kaepernick for not voting as if not voting against the money he's donated, and programs that he's implemented since this protest became public. Now, did he announce this? Or how did this come to light that he was not

voting? I think it was one of those TMZ kind of things where they like on the street and they put a mic in your face asked you about the election. And he was like, Yeah, I'm not voting because both of them are bad commie. This did. very simplified what he what his statement was, why is this? Why is this the third rail? Because if you're black, you got to vote. Gotcha. Even just just for some context, I get feedback now, for my stance on this show.

Like how dare you tell people not to vote? You know? Well, I'll give you example, what it sounds like. ESPN, ESPN host slams Colin Kaepernick. I appreciated what you said about Colin Kaepernick as someone who's 54 registered to vote when I turned 18. I've never in my life missed voting in an election. Have I expand on what you had to expand on what you had to say about him?

Well, listen, the fact is he had every right to protest and when he was talking about racial and justices and things of that nature, you certainly can understand where he was coming from. It was a quiet protest. He didn't impede anybody's ability to watch the game to come to the games or anything like that. Which is why I went on Good Morning America for my show. First take on ESPN, too. Every weekday from 10am to 12, noon

and other outlets to support him. However, the second that he decided that he was not going to vote and didn't to publicly reveal that he wasn't voting, I thought it was egregious to the highest order. I thought it compromised everything that he was standing for. And more importantly, I thought it was a disrespect to our ancestors to people who have bled and fought

and died for him to have the right to do that. And then also take into account the fact that we have a president who was outgoing in Barack Obama who captured 93% of the black vote who obviously black folks come out and support. He went before the Congressional Black Caucus and went campaigning for on behalf of Hillary Clinton, basically imploring our community to activate itself in this election if you had any respect whatsoever for his legacy.

I need a bell just I'm just around me all the time. Just when I hear the word activate. I got it. I got to ring the bell to Yes. Okay. So he was not on board with the program. He didn't want to activate for Hillary. And that's where he got canceled. And what was he What was his reasons behind this? Because he understood his fan base. He's very conscious or what I'm not gonna say he because I don't think he was very. I'll say, He doesn't look that smart.

I don't think I'm smart. I'll say this. Because the reason why I wouldn't say smart because he was a 4.0. Student. Oh, okay. I'll take that back. I don't think he's that aware. And there's very, a lot of reasons for that being a biracial person that was raised by a total white family grown up in a total white community. He's not as aware of race. As a, quote unquote, typical black horse, he didn't have the same upbringing, where it is where the you're gonna vote was hammered into you. So it's

right. Yeah. Okay, so when he says these things, but I think him not voting was very calculated, because if you link him as it loosely, is to Black Lives Matter, that was a large portion of his, because you got to look at these things. They were running concurrent, at the same time, Black Lives Matter. 2016 They were on a meteoric rise. So it was Kaepernick, and they kind of merge together, they converged, right, they converged. And for him, and you know, black lives matter was

very anti establishment, anti Hillary Clinton. So for him to come out and say, yeah, and be used as a tool for Hillary Clinton, then that would damage his brand. And this is all about brand here. Yes. Okay. So it was a very calculated, I think, wisely calculate, I mean, a lot of his moves. That look stupid, you have to understand they look stupid, because you're thinking about, not you, but people are thinking about him in terms of him getting back into the NFL, right? No, he's thinking, I'm

gonna build this brand. Because I wasn't that good of a football player. Last time I played. Even if I get back in NFL, I'll be mediocre at best. Now, he will be better than half of the guys that are either starting quarterback or backup quarterbacks. I'll give him that credit. And I think that's the very disingenuous argument when people say, Oh, he wasn't good enough to play. No, it's a lot of trash quarterbacks in the NFL

right now. Well, so you gotta, you gotta have a certain amount of, well, it could be wokeness or I mean, awareness for sure. If you know, okay, wait a minute. I I'm not that. I mean, he he made a career choice. I'm not that great a player. And, you know, I've got a brand. And I think a lot of things happened, you know, the hair change will I'm sure we'll get to that or maybe not, but the hair change was a significant that's that was a true branding move.

And that was immediate. I mean, because when he was start process, right away, had that big afro, so he had to Afro he was ready. He was ready for casting. Okay, now you're right, you're right. You're right. So that the decision had already been made. And then of course, he's in his mind. He's already thinking, Okay, I don't win if I, if I come out publicly for Trump, because no one does. And I don't win if I come out publicly for Clinton because of the Black

Lives Matter. Convergent convergence with what he was doing. Okay, got it. I'm there. So, you asked the question about his handler ship. Oh, it started off in my opinion. It started off with Mr. Harry Edwards. But there was a transition. Because, and this is quoting from on May 11 articles for you ESPN 17 Mr. Harry Edwards made a statement it three teams have inquired about Colin Kaepernick advisor says and it goes on he goes on to talk about the teams that

were interested in Colin Kaepernick. Right. But immediately after that, I'm nessa Diem refused to claim. So this is where the handler his handlers made a transition from it being Mr. Harry Edwards. being handed over to miss this idea of IQ many fans want to know How close were the ravens to signing Colin Kaepernick Ray Lewis says they were about to close this deal, but one tweet changed it all. A 24 in the am Baltimore Ravens get making

headlines yet again. The whole Colin Kaepernick mess Colin Kaepernick and Ray Lewis are at center stage with Luis shedding light on why the Ravens backed away from the controversial quarterback. Nobody had this kid a job in the National Football League. I can raise my hand and say I did once a star for the 40 Niners poor play in a protest at the National Anthem quite a moment here in San Francisco has kapernick looking for a new job.

I'm gonna continue to stand with the people that are being oppressed when Joe Flacco was first injured. The Ravens expressed interest in Kaepernick but never signed him. Shortly after Kaepernick girlfriend slammed owner Steve Ashanti and Ray Lewis posting a tweet that mirrors the movie picture of a house sleeve hugging his racist

master. The only thing that went bad was that image where she tried to make us a racist, Louis on show times inside the NFL, we were going to close the deal to sign him to sign them all we wanted to hear was hear Colin Kaepernick speech then his girl goes out and puts out this racist gesture she doesn't know we're in the back office about for about to try to get this guy to sign. Yeah, but maybe she didn't know I guess. Yeah, perfect timing.

Why? If your goal is to get back into the NFL, why would your girlfriend aka your handler, tweet out a picture of she had on one side she had the owners of the Baltimore Ravens being held by Ray Lewis, the legendary iconic linebacker from the Baltimore Ravens on one side, and then she had a picture of Django Unchained with the quote unquote, Uncle Tom house slave hugging the white flight owner. Yeah, why would you do that? If your goal is to get back in the NFL?

This Yeah, that doesn't seem like that's your goal, if? Well, of course, he didn't do it. But she did it. And then of course, he immediately broke up with her and publicly said she was a horrible person, right? Not at all. And just as a side note, Baltimore Ravens have taken a black quarterback. Oh, I'm drawing blanks today. They have a currently have a black quarterback that they drafted. And he's been very successful in their system. So much so that

he's being in the running for MVP talk. So Colin Kaepernick could have played that he had the same skill set. Lamar, Lamar Jackson had to come back to me. He had the same skill set as Lamar Jackson. And he could have had the same level of success because they built a system around his skills of running the football, you know, and we're not get too much in sports, but he could have had the same he could ask them or success, but I don't think that's what was that's not what is wanted for

Colin Kaepernick. No, so once again, he once again he becomes toxic. He overcame the voting thing. nflt looking at him again. No, it was it. Was there any more conversation with his girlfriend where she interviewed? Did she give any any decent explanation of what she was thinking? Not at all. Okay, so this so this that's odd to there was no TMZ interview. Why did you ruin your boyfriend's career? None of that. None of that. Okay. So now Mr. Colin

Kaepernick is completely toxic. The kneeling thing had died down. But then enter Mr. Donald Trump. It was a remarkable show of solidarity and defiance aimed directly at Donald Trump. Stadium after stadium anthem after anthem National Football League players on one knee others With raised fists or locked arms sometimes along with team owners, some teams staying in their locker rooms for the anthem, some anthem singers themselves joining the protests.

All of it a response to Trump's comments Friday about players who protest this way who in Trump's view, disrespect the US flag, get that son of a bitch off the field right now out he's fired. Trump and his supporters frame it as unpatriotic. But the protests are aimed at highlighting racial inequality in the US. That's why former NFL quarterback Colin Kaepernick began it last year, a move say some that cost him his career as no team hired Kaepernick this season. But Trump's comments and

his calls to now boycott the NFL. And the view by many Trump is sympathetic to racist views. And all of a sudden, this. Yeah. So Trump use Colin Kaepernick in the NFL for two reasons. One, I think he was doing the Roy Moore election when he was in Alabama, was Alabama Mississippi. I forget not one of the two were pretty sure it's Alabama. It was Alabama. Right. That's where he made this comment. So he needed he needed some reflection from that whole debacle that was

going on down there. Because I mean, Roy Moore was the worst candidate ever. But he had to back him right. Yeah, cuz, you know, because of the allegations that were made against him about the young girls or whatever. I mean, that was just true or not, it was just bad optics to have to support a guy like that. Right. So he needs attention is anything that you think Trump did for that reason? Well, I'm gonna get to that's one reason but the second reason he hates the NFL. Trump hates the NFL.

Yes. Let me explain the history to you. Okay, so Mr. Crawford raft guy is his buddy. Yeah, crap is his buddy. Jerry Jones from the Cowboys is buddy. But the NFL. Okay. Trump once had a team in the USFL, which was a direct competitor of the NFL. And he sued the NFL, ah, and won a monopoly case. He want he only won $3. This is like the 90s is this early 90s. I think in the late 80s, early 90s. Somewhere around that period, I was in New York

at the time. So I kind of remember that. And I remember it was like, and he had a team too. Didn't you put a team together for his? He had a team. Yeah. And they were they were playing football in the springtime. But then he moved in direct competition with the NFL and the fall. Yeah. So that I mean, he won, he won. But then the other thing was, Mr. Trump tried to buy a team in the NFL. And the way it works is to get a team in the NFL, even if you have the money yet to

vote. Do you have to be invited? Yeah, you gotta it's yeah, it's, it's the billionaire boys club is what it is, right. It's like my fantasy league. You know. I mean, that's what it is for billionaires. I mean, they have their teams. Most of them make money elsewhere, and it's just their passion. So they're like, we're not letting this guy trumping, you know, so that really galled Trump like, Oh, okay. You don't want to sell me a team because he tried to buy the Buffalo Bills. So just to

back up my claims. We have Jaguars owner, con speaking on Trump. President Trump hasn't been shy about voicing his displeasure with the NFL and one owner says the President's attacks on the league are personal. Jaguars owner Shahrukh Khan told USA Today that the President's assault against the NFL is quote, about money or messing with trying to soil a league or brand that he's jealous of. The President has railed on the NFL on social media for its handling of the national anthem

controversy. And though most owners were hesitant to comment on the President, as they wrapped up league meetings in New York, con was very candid. Trump was unsuccessful in attempting to purchase the Buffalo Bills back in 2014. And Cohn reportedly thinks that could be a motivating factor saying he's been elected president where maybe a great goalie had in life to own an NFL team is not very likely. So to make it tougher or to hurt the league. It's very calculated.

Ah, well, Trump is definitely someone who's on record saying is he believes in retaliation. So yeah, and just to give this guy icon and credibility and his claim he's donated to Trump's election. I lecture fun. So it's weird. It's weird. It's this weird thing going on between these billionaires. I mean, they I mean, they're very petty in certain ways. Yes, they are. Sold NFL, this is what called the second wave. And a huge buy. As I said in the previous clips in the one we just played. It

was league wide protests. All the guys were taking a knee. Some guys were raising the face. Players was walking on a practice, staying in the locker room even, ya know, talking about doing practice. They wouldn't even they wouldn't even practice. So the NFL owners had to take action. And what they did was they put together this fund, I'll think of like $88 million to donate towards minority causes minority minority minority causes non black lives matter but minority causes. Okay,

yeah. So that kind of smooth things over. But it caused a rift between Colin Kaepernick and NFL players. Now I want to introduce a another reading, do an eclipse because they're not mean Eclipse to have on him. But one thing called a kappa is known not to do is talk. Nobody heard here hears him talk. All he does is tweet. But he has his attack dog. Eric Reid, Eric re was a guy to play with him in San Francisco and took a knee

with him when he was taking his knee every time. Around Colin Kaepernick has beef with somebody else it really addresses it either verbally or even attempting to physically approach people. So we have Steven a speech Smith speaking on Erie versus Malcolm Jenkins, let's get into the particulars, for example, the $89 million.

Did y'all know that part of the agreement is that the owners will match whatever the players contribute up to a quarter of a million dollars annually to certain causes pertaining to the African American community, the kind of issues that Colin Kaepernick and others were talking about addressing. We know this, if you don't know it, you know it now. Number two, the NFL, Colin Kaepernick himself, Eric Reid himself, they would never protesting against the National Football League and its

owners. They were protesting against society in terms of wanting to bring attention to racial oppression, racial inequality and other things pertaining to disenfranchised communities throughout our nation. They were not complaining against the National Football League. Yeah, and here I come. I'm a television network. And I say, Hey, we got a little problem. You know, we're getting this in

a lot of flack about our telecast. And it's too controversial in the military, you know, they don't want to buy as many ads around the program because, you know, the kind of ruining our flyover. So, this had to end. So, just as people know, who Malcolm Jenkins, Jenkins is, Malcolm Jenkins was the guy that came in and say, you know, what, he was the face of the Players Association, to say, you know, what, we can monetize this thing for charities? Right. You know,

right. They basically they hijack Colin kapernick movement, which is what player associations do very well, by the way. Well, I mean, that's what people do all the time. If you if you just want to complain about something and don't want to monetize it. There's somebody out there saying we can monetize this thing. And that's what they did. And NFL owners found them favorable to work with, because they were in being just

anarchist. So they came to this agreement at $9 million, as I said in the clip, and that caused, like I said, a rift between the Colin kapernick faction, which included Eric Reid against Malcolm Jenkins and the Players Association, and we will he'll steam a speaking more about it in part two. Number three, when you talk about Malcolm Jenkins and the players coalition, they're saying their priority wasn't

Colin Kaepernick their priority were the issues. We even have Josh Norman quoted on the record, beefing with Eric Reid over a conference call written by an article in our very own, the undefeated, where he was saying to Eric Reid, let's just be real about what's going on here with Colin Kaepernick to speak up for himself and oh, by the way, this is bigger than just one man, we understand that what's happening to Colin Kaepernick is wrong, but this issue is bigger than him and if

we're about uplifting and helping our communities that takes precedent. So once again, Colin Kaepernick thought his cell phone outside, just kicked out. You see his tree in here of this? Well, getting close to come back to the NFL and then something happens and, you know, it's just this bob and weave thing. It seems like if I looked at it from a handler perspective, it's like, you know, kid, let him get close controversy, pull them back, and we're gonna go over there, let him get close

controversy and pull him back. That's kind of what it feels like. That's exactly what seems like to me as well. So the insteps Nike, Nike is defending its controversial new ad campaign after backlash from President Trump and other critics. In an interview the President said Nike is sending a terrible message he says By partnering with unsigned NFL quarterback Colin Kaepernick, but he added their freedom to do so it was

what this country is all about. Kaepernick triggered the NFL player protests against social injustice back in 2016 by kneeling during the national anthem. CBS This Morning Saturday co hosts Dana Jacobson joins us at the table. She's been following the Nike controversy from the beginning Dana morning. Good morning, and this is not going away in the season hasn't even

started yet. an NFL executive at least one has expressed support for Kaepernick saying in part the social justice issues that Colin and other professional athletes have raised deserve our attention and action. But Nikes decision is also fanning the flames on social media. Nikes controversial endorsement of Colin Kaepernick is reigniting the debate over NFL players taking a knee during the national anthem. All right. So Nike comes in they make him part of the JUST DO IT campaign.

What was the size of his deal at the time? Do you know it was it was undisclosed how much he made? But it was in the millions? I'm sure no doubt. But one little caveat is have you ever heard Mr. Mark Geragos? Yes, lawyer in Los Angeles. He's a very famous lawyer. Yes, he was Mark Geragos was Colin Kaepernick attorney. But he's also tied in with something to do with Nike as well.

Business Insider reporting lawyer Michael Avenatti was arrested and charged with attempting to extort $20 million from sportswear brands Nike on Monday have a notice basis for the alleged extortion attempt was that he had information related to the NCAA basketball scandal that will put Nike in a negative light. The attorney for adult film star stormy Daniels allegedly tried to force Nike to pay up by threatening to harm

the company if his demands were not met. Later Monday, Nike responded by saying that it was complying with federal investigations in NCAA basketball, and will not be extorted. Celebrity attorney Mark Geragos was named a co conspirator in the Avanade case, which was filed in the Southern District of New York. Yeah, I remember this and I remember making a deal about it on no agenda. And I got a number of emails from from people, my friends who said oh man, Gallegos is an ok guy. So you

know, they weren't sure what was up with the with Avenatti. And what how that fit together, but they were definitely I mean, I think he's also Adam Carolla is lawyer. Speaking on the weird love triangle that's going on there between Abinadi Nike and gara goes where gara goes and Abinadi were partners with a Abinadi he's trying to extort Nike. And then you got Colin Kaepernick working for Nike, and he's

Gehrig's Disease lawyer. So it's just wait, it's just well, it has nothing to add to the story, but it was just a weird little No, it does it because I think that's it's a tactic because it's probably a Gary goes tactic. It's like, alright, well, we're gonna mess with you over here because we need something for you for our for for cap. And we're gonna make some trouble over here. And by the way, I never heard a follow up. It sounds totally plausible that Nike was, you know, the

Nikes. scandalously giving money to high school kids totally believable. And I remember they came out and I think they countersued and I don't know what happened to so and that's also odd. So why didn't they vigorously defend that make a big? Was there a lawsuit? Was there a court ruling? It kind of fizzled away. So it sounds like shenanigans. Yeah, so I just add that in there. It doesn't have any any value to the timeline. It was just a weird little factoid.

Do you have another question? What the hell station did you get that clip from where there's some British woman talking about our sport? That's the only place I could find anything on that subject. Okay. All over the web. I mean, you know, I see our future researchers. Yeah, you're researching. You are so just to give the audio backing or background I need it. That's

That's why I found it. So that's one lawsuit. I mean, but so now Colin Kaepernick he ends up selling one With the NFL, a surprise development happened just as we were walking into studio. Former NFL quarterback Colin Kaepernick has settled his lawsuit with the National Football League Kaepernick sued the league last year, claiming 32 teams colluded to keep him off the NFL roster because he was taking a knee during the national anthem. Now, we don't know many details about the

settlement. But Kaepernick had previously signaled that only a lucrative financial payout will convince him to drop the suit. What does this mean? And what does it mean for Kaepernick future he's 31 years old, you would have to think he could still play if he wants. Fox News contributor she used to be at ESPN where she thrived there. Britt McHenry with a rich sports background Britt Michael Freeman a respected NFL reporters

reporting get this that he's getting $60 million. What does that tell you? It tells me Brian that money will make a problem go away or it will make a social justice warrior really happy and really rich but I have to tell you I did a little reporting on my own I reached out to an NFL source of mine and NFL agent who said he would be shocked if that was the number well it was the number wasn't it was that it was high I thought well the Wall Street Journal came back and reported that was

way low. We're talking about his single digit millions. So that 60 was right after the settlement had like closed finalized. So I think that was attacked at this show. The cabinet took put the NFL over the barrel kind of thing in the law, and the lawsuit was specifically because he was colluding because they were teams were colluding not to not to not to hire it's a black ball and white ball on Mojave spectrum Euro Well, yeah, um, yeah, that was what it was. Stop

stop the show. Yes. Do you with your with your other friends? Say white balling. Is that a blackballing? No, that's I just want to make sure Okay, just checking man that's that's what the show is about to I gotta lie. You want to know what's going on? All right. Yeah, so that's the world term for blackballing is I'm gonna use that everywhere now. Hey, bro, Stuff White balling me. Okay, um, just practice?

Yeah, so, um, but him settling didn't sit well with a lot of people because what they tried to do was tie, Colin Kaepernick and with Ali. That was the comparison. You know, a Muhammad Ali for those people that don't know, which was a book, bullshit comparison. Excuse my language. Because Muhammad Ali was the best at his sport. Yes. And he refused to be used by the military industrial complex, as we saw in previous shows, go

look at how they use our Joe Lewis. Because he wasn't, they weren't, they'll put a gun to Ali's hand and you know, making go fight in Vietnam. They wanted to do the Elvis trick. You know, I was like, Alright. Yeah. We'll call the USO I believe are you where you go around? And you know, do some exhibitions? I mean, they use Joe Lewis Zack, same way in World War Two. Yeah. But I'll he was like, No, I'm not going to do it. Now for for religious

reasons. That was his whole purpose. He said, I'm a minister for the Nation of Islam. I'm not going to fight your war. And he sat down for three years. He didn't settle. You know, he took you notice that he spoke about the whole thing. So Colin Kaepernick settling really hurt his case. And Steven a Smith took issue with it. Well, here's where the problem lies. What did you when Colin Kaepernick. I want to know the money. I want to know what the

details of the settlement are. That's what I want to know. You don't sit up there and get to get martyred by everybody and their grandmother all of these years, over the last two years, with everybody making a case about how he's being blackballed. He's being ostracized and all of this other

stuff. You don't get to sit up there and send out tweets. Thank you, Jana and other stars who refused to perform at halftime for the Super Bowl and protest and supportive you because their belief was that you had been blackballed, and as a nation of folks, particularly from the minority community, that have been standing up screaming, hooting and hollering about how you have been ostracized, how you have been mistreated, and then all of a sudden you quietly reach a settlement and we don't

know what the hell it entails. That's my problem with all of this. Everybody wants some a little taste of that money. So Colin Kaepernick is on the outs again. This is they're doing it very well whoever's running him they're doing a good job because he's like man you took you took the money you were opposed to take the NFL owners to trial you know, expose them, you know, for for white balling you. And that was the whole purpose but for for his speaking from his backer standpoint of

view. Oh, This is what they wanted to show, you know, the power structure that they can be on Sam, you know, made to kneel for me pun intended, right? So here we are, present day, a NFL so we were gonna go to one of the most official sports references there is the real. So last night it was announced for the NFL that Colin Kaepernick was invited to a private workout in Atlanta this Saturday, which means that this free agent man might have the

chance to play on the NFL team again. We all know if you did it, but he stirred up some controversy in 2016 when he took a knee to protest police brutality. So I want to know how you guys feel about this chance of Colin being back on the NFL. I think that what Colin kneeling for were still working on to try to improve police brutality, but he brought attention to it sacrificed a lot. And I just want to remind people that Colin opted out of his contract in 2017. He was not fired. He opted

out to try to get more money. And then what happened was with all the kneeling and everything, there was some controversy about bringing him back. They had a settlement because there was a lawsuit about a collusion to keep him out. They settled it. It was confidential, the you know, what have ya so we don't know actually what was the requirements, but then it just seems like he was still getting blackballed. Amen. Did the ladies have the real just alter history there?

No, they laid it out perfectly like it was and that's why that's why I use that clip. What did you find? As altered, that he that he opted out of his contract in 2017. Maybe I misunderstood. That's very factual. He had one more year left with the San Francisco 40, Niners and he opted out of that final year. Okay. Well, first of all, I now I'm happy that I know that I can brush up on my football by watching the ladies of the real

happy about that. I like that. Okay, so the, the the reason why I use this clip is to ask you the other question you had about his celebrity. Now, do you see how big it is? Big, big? Yes. Gotcha. So now, we're at present time. The skit though? Oh, was it last Saturday? This the workout was in you made an astute observation that this was a private combine. For Mr. Colin Kaepernick. Nobody had ever seen this before one player combine, were all at all it was what 25 teams were going to come to see

him showcase his abilities. But as expected on my part, it didn't go off as planned. And it was it ended. And Mr. Colin kapernick, coming from out of the shadows, and actually getting from the microphones and having a rant. Let me start by saying, I appreciate y'all coming out. That means a lot to me. Our biggest thing with everything today was making sure we had transparency of what went on. We weren't getting that elsewhere. So we came out here. It's

important that you're here. Y'all been attacked for the last three years. Y'all continue to be attacked. We appreciate what y'all do. We appreciate you being here today. We appreciate the work you do for the people and telling the truth. That's what we want everything. Be ready for three years. I've been denied for three years. We all know why I came out here shoulder today in front of everybody. We have nothing to hide. So we're waiting for the 32 owners to start the two

teams, Roger Goodell of them to stop running. Stop running from the truth. Stop running from people. Around here. We're ready to play. Ready to go anywhere. My agent Jeff Nalley is ready to talk to any team. Interview a team at anytime. A band ready. I'm staying ready. Now continue to be ready. And so all the people that came out here today to support appreciate y'all. I love y'all to the people that aren't here. I'm thinking about you. I appreciate your support from where you are. We'll

continue to give you updates as we're here. We'll be waiting to hear from Roger Goodell, the NFL the 32 teams will let you know if we hear from them balls in their court. We're ready to go so yeah, I saw this and I and I got my interest because I know he doesn't talk. And I of course I learned that from you Okay, and and I see him there. And I mean, here's what my spidey sense, told me one, he's wearing his Nike shirt. Like, okay, that's not you know, when, when you're a paid endorsement a

spokesmodel. You don't put it on for free. And you put it on when you're told to put it on and and there's always something associated with that. And the second one, he kept saying, We ready, we ready, we ready. And to me that felt like a JUST DO IT type thing. It felt like a campaign. Yeah, the whole this whole thing was a media stunt. I mean, let me be clear, because I'm biased. This whole thing was a media

stunt from both sides. The NFL put this thing on because they're having their 100 year anniversary, and they wanted to put a nice little bow on this whole Colin Kaepernick thing and have it be over with, right. They know he don't want to play football. They know this as we see it. Now. It's like, every time this guy gets the opportunity to play football,

some as something happens where he blows it himself. So what we're going to do is we're going to put on this huge spectacle in Atlanta, in the blackest city in America and invite him on down. And then we're gonna let him put the ball, we're gonna put the ball in his court. What No, no, no, no, no, then the handler's went to Katherine. Oh, no. So what they did was three hours before the private workout was posted began. They said, No, we're not doing that. We're

going to hold our own workout. And that's where this clip was taken from, that we just heard. It was. Now if you have three if you know you're not going to well, you know what, I'm gonna let Stephen A Smith. And it's important that we use Stephen A Smith throughout this whole story because they're juxtaposed and we'll get to that, why and how they're juxtaposed in a minute. But Stephen speaks on Khan Academy and doesn't want to play he wants to be a martyr.

So let me get this straight. Colin Kaepernick has been working out all of this time. Him, people in his camp is closed ones loved ones everybody talks about he wants to play football. He wants to play football. He's ready to play. Just give him the tans. So what does the NFL do? Recognizing that teams need a shield? Because they need something to

hide behind? Because they know that guess what? If we bring this brother in for a workout and we don't like him or we don't want him who knows what we're going to get accused of? We need copper. So the NFL provides that I have no doubt Jay Z's involved. I have no doubt Roger Goodell was involved I have no doubt there's a host of people involved but I liked his guy nice he's a sports sports caster. Yeah.

Oh, he is the sports caster over ESP. Okay, gotcha. So this happened this was Saturday afternoon at the Colin cabinet makes his rent Steven a Smith you're saying is beside himself? Because I think he kind of smells what's going on? He's on he's totally on to it. He sees sees it or Yeah, of course. But we're gonna let Stephen a spirit continue about him being a martyr. This man,

one of the Champs 25 teams show up in Georgia. At the Atlanta Falcons practice facility started off facility, NFL personnel, equipment, everything, video, everything. And what does Colin Kaepernick do? Not Tuesday, when he found out about an hour Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, Saturday, three hours before the workout because of some issue with a liability waiver. Colin Kaepernick wants to change the venue. Colin Kaepernick wants his own receivers. Colin kapernick wants to video thinks

himself. Colin Kaepernick wants to media this Colin Kaepernick media can't find him. He doesn't know interviews. He talks to nobody media can't find him, but he wants to do it. He wants to be available now. He don't want to play. He wants to be a mater, an agent of change. So a lot of he was he's been critical as we heard in previous clips of Colin Kaepernick not voting. But other times he's

been supportive for Colin Kaepernick on his show. But Colin Kaepernick not only didn't piss off Stephen A Smith, he also was pissed off undisputed host Shane In a sharp, I'm disappointed with how calf handled the situation. I think everybody knows this watch this show for the last three years Kip, I've been wanting to calf biggest supporters. You and I talked talked about this, I believe every single day for about three or four months, when everybody else touched on it at

the beginning and left the subject alone. You and I talked about it. I talked to cap, I knew how much he wanted to get back into league. And I even coined a term, coined the term as the cap has been white ball that has not changed. But the way he handled this situation skip now, key knew that he received this on a very short notice. He could have said, you know, I my representatives have just given me word that the NFL has set up a workout for me. I will get back to you. As soon as

I know more details. He jumped in headfirst. So you knew this was gonna be on a Saturday. He turns around because when he did skip, he's in his camp and his supporters says the NFL wants to control the narrative. Well, the NFL says we them should let you control the narrative. And he walked into a trap that they said what cap is trying to do is cap is trying to appease a

audience that has no role in him getting a job. You can showcase your talent for the immediate all you want to you can try to appease your fan base all you want to, but they will play no role and you're getting the job. Can you show up to a job interview with a cooter can t shirt? J Yes, no, no, no. He should have a hoodie that just says, Toby. Well, he can't do that. Of course not. He can't do that. Just to give you that. Oh, man, as as you know, always like to give context to the things that

you're saying that are happening. By cool. I'm out by let's say Kaepernick. But why oh, I'm Colin Kaepernick showing up with that. Show title koonta Kaepernick, there you go. That'll get some SEO delegates. They can't take shirt home. by proxy. He's calling the NFL owners were slave owners. And just for there may be some younger listeners who didn't grow up with Alex Haley's epic roots, the saga of an

American family. It's on Netflix. I'm sure it's a must watch binge over the weekend, the Thanksgiving weekend. So as you mentioned, Alitalia had a slave. Pizza slave. trauma based entertainment, Carl roots. Thanks. Thank you for saying that. Because when I say you need to watch it. We have discussed this before. Maybe we discussed it just on the phone, I think I don't think it was in the show. It is totally trauma based entertainment. Absolutely. In fact, very traumatic to watch.

To the point. My father said when he saw it, they went to school the next day, and we got into brawls over it. Wow. So by him using this icon of Kuta kente. He know he knew what one he knew what how the billionaire petty, as we've laid out, owners would take it and he knew what it was signify to his super woke crowd that he that back soon. But for people that don't know who called Tecate to Kuta Kente is I want to explain what the significance of that is. I want to hear you say your name. Your

name is Toby. What's your name? Lord God helped him What's your name? Toby say your name What's your name? Toby. Change again. What's your name? Toby. My name is Toby good. Yeah, that was the Yeah. Ah. So in that scene, we have QA Colin Kaepernick playing the role of cooltech kente. That won't be broken. He wants to he wants to say his name is Toby and we got the NFL and the owners saying it's Toby. And who's the third character in there? Steven a smooth. Oh Lord, they're gonna break it boy.

Damn. They just took the old playbook. Recycle that Dez perfect. Yes. And now people are saying well mo you're going a little far out or I don't I don't think so. At all. I totally see this. I mean, it's okay. I stand up for you mo I will I will defend you on this one. to backup my claim Stephen A Smith sighs biggest contract at

ESPN history. I want to talk about Steven Naismith. According to the NY Post, he has to basically sign a new deal to become ESPN its highest paid talent on air personality in their history. Okay, now this is according to the NY Post. So Steven Naismith is about to make a lot more money. Okay. And that's for the people who, you know, like them and the people who don't, I know the people who don't are really going to like

this. Because quite frankly, Steven Naismith is going to be Richard Smith is in line to become the highest paid on air person at ESPN by potentially boosting his salary to 10 million per year according to the people with knowledge of upcoming negotiations. Hmm This is the Boolean play. Yes, sir. Stephen A. And you know what this clip is from March 6. They don't find they don't finalize the deal. Until let it till last week. Oh, how convenient. How convenient, which ESPN has which

is Disney has a lot of has a big contract with the NFL. And they're no more than Gosh, Steven Naismith sizes, the biggest contract in ESPN history. Right before he goes on to attack. Public Enemy Number One as far as NFL concern, Colin Kaepernick. So he Okay, so his contract was done. Announce and then the kapernick thing happens. Yes. No perfect timeline. So of course, ESPN, Xenon it Oh, man. Yes. So what you have is you have the Boulais versus the woke crowd. I'm

sorry, which the woke crowd is funded by Soros. People like that and the Boulais or more establishments? Well, you also made the right connection. ABC that they have the contract for the games. I don't even know. Yeah, well, ESPN, they show on Monday Night Football, right. So they own they own everything. Okay, so they own Stephen A Smith's do they own? They own everybody except for this show. But we're for sale for the right amount. My name is coming to I won't be I won't be broken.

Stephen A Smith in that in that story you just made up there. I don't want to be the slave owner. No. All right. No, no, what I'm saying is, that's the reason why we do this because we nobody know will point these things out because everybody has a vested interest on either sides. Right? I mean, you know that that's why you do the no agenda show. Because if you have sponsors, it's like shut up, Adam. Yes. You know. Yeah, we refuse to do that. But this has came at a cost of Mr.

Steven Naismith. Oh, Terrell Owens confront Steven Naismith. So what he wanted was transparency for people to see the full workout to see the full Colin Kaepernick. Again, you mentioned obviously Max is going to get in here. Like I said, I'm in the streets. Max almost seems blacker than you, Steven A. with with with what he was coming. Here. With all due respect my brother, I'm just man. I'm gonna check you right now. You don't cry. Just say Tomatometer. Wait

a minute, you don't cross the line. First of all, like I said, You, Colin Kaepernick, Eric Reid, any of y'all that wanted to bait me in front of black people and talk about what's best for black people. Name the time and place I'll show up. I don't want to hear what's the definition of blackness is the a definitive definition of blackness. And now Terrell is a player right? Because he was a former player, and he says that, Stephen A Smith's co hosts Max Kellerman is black and is Stephen A Smith.

This would seem like an insult of the highest order. That's what I'm thinking. That's not a cool thing to say. And this was on the air Yes, this was on Stephen A Smith show and let me just give some

background. Steven Naismith sometimes takes the conservative side of art because this debate shows him a max debate right and to keep max for seeming like the racist white guy Steven by the by the structure of the show you Steven a smear some most of the time takes the conservative side and let's Mack argue the liberal side so he didn't look like the races white guy right? Yes, right. But if this crap has blown up and Steven Naismith space, but let me just give a little point here, Steven

Naismith always like to say, I'm a black man. Before he prefaces in the statement. Let his co host a white Jewish guy be called blacker than him there. Oh, this is best. Terrell God goes on to invite max to the cookout here and I know Max, you didn't have a chance to jump in and I'm sure you want a response. Okay, got a shot of explosive when to you said tongue in cheek. You said that, Stephen that I seem blacker than Stephen A and

Stephen A obviously had to respond to that. And I want to respond to that before I say what I originally wanted to say. Which is first of all, I can't eat any more all the cookouts I've been invited to like since this whole thing came up. I see Stephen as having inherited not only your respect for authority, but a working knowledge of reality and what it takes to get ahead, no excuses. You can always look for excuses. You can look for things to lean on. You can look for where it's not

perfect. Or you can do what you have to do, which is what Steven Hayes done. And I would say that his his that your point of view, Stephen A to Stephen A's point of view is not less black necessarily than someone else's who's more strident. It is more conservative in certain respects. And my point of view is oftentimes more progressive. My own background is Jewish, secular, not religious, but Jewish secular. So one of the things you get around Passover is act like you are a slave in

Egypt. That's how I grew up. But you know, with that tradition of always look at the oppressed and look for righteousness and justice. And so I'm strident in that way. However, me myself I did not have to go through the struggle like that. Now explain the cookout? Is this just some old cookout? Where cookout is this? He made it to the cookout. Barbecue. I want to be at the cookout. So the cookout is this stupid thing that the woke people do?

When white people do something that's pleasing to them? They say, Oh, he's invited to the cookout. Oh, God, I'm learning so much today. It's certainly. So it's not my definition. I'll let Busby explain to you what the cookout is. Well, the cookout to me is like we're blessed people come to the blackity Black Flag all generations get together. That's the one place you can like teach like the older generation is most of vacation

true. A cookout is a safe place to be Well, friends and family but good data is the only place where you don't have to code switch. It's immediate family and siblings, aunts, uncles, cousins, neighbors, family friends. Take aunties fake uncles. It was my Haitian education school. That's where I learned about my culture, my music, how to cook like the importance of family members. Can people find it the cookout? Okay, you're not supposed to. Okay, it's sounds pretty holy. This cookout business.

I mean, it's where if you're, and this is gonna piss some people off, but this one good. So just beware. When you're a black person, and you deal in white, mostly white places, spaces a cookout to you? It's like this magical place of blackness. You know, to me, it's some you know, some food on the grill and you just kick back. Yeah, but if you're live in whitespaces, what are they how they you term it, you know, to be around a majority of black people or something magical to

them. And then to bring a white person into that is the highest of the highest order of compliments that they bestow upon a super white white person. He invited to the cookout. He made it to the barbecue, you know what, the cookout that's right after cookout. So, it had to be like I said it had to be the highest insult to to Steven a Smith because as not only does Matt go on, he gets invited to the cookout that he goes on to why explain the struggle? Why did you hear?

We talked about this point yesterday, and what you're alluding to there, it's actually white privilege, black people don't enjoy it. And I'm not giving up any privilege not a single bit of privilege, but I will insist that all human beings are so privileged and that includes Kaepernick and if he wants to wear Kunta Kinte eight shirt Good for him. So at what point are you following the story now you're really angry because of what's happening to your your, your

relaxation, sport, football. This This must be this must be maddening. I'm so pissed and not about the row. This guy said he'd not given up any of his player privilege, and that's who you invite to the cookout? Are you serious? I mean, because to say I have privilege is one special, I have a special say you can't have privilege and they say everybody else has it too, because that makes it not a privilege. Exactly. So I'll read through his bullshit. It's like yeah, I got that. Super white

privilege, you know, and I let go and none of it. Are you are you people? Are you not hearing him? And what got me pissed off is under the comments of the Terrell Owens video, where he's called Steven a word called call max blacker than Stephen A. And invited max to the proverbial cookout. Everybody Yeah, yeah, Max. He's super Whoa, yeah. Invite him to the cookout in

Kona Marco gonna do you know, he likes season meat. I'm like, Are you gonna get a WUSA please yes, you can get a WUSA anytime you need this is great. Thank you. This is great. So as me Steven A had an off with a cookout and Max irksome. Oh, great. Colin Kaepernick. People have reached out to numerous folks. I was one of them. They said he wants to play. It's not fair. He did this for us. All he wants to do now is put this behind him he wants

to play. Will you help us? So it's rock nation. It's Jay Z and the crew is the NFL and Roger Goodell went behind the backs of the executive VPS because they didn't even know about the

workout. What happened was, he has to work out. And then after the workout, he antagonizes the very commissioner who helped put this together, told him to stop running, showed up with a Kuta kente shirt on, you know, essentially it said we'll see once again that's see that's where that's why I say you go to that black barbecue or you want to, but let me tell you something right now. You cannot have 31 White owners. You show up with a cooter kit they shared a basically alluding to them as slaves.

You gotta gotta show your hat in your hand and beg for the opportunity to see that's why I'm saying because the after this you gotta leave you go go home as the I got to go in the black community and deal with stuff just because you interrupted me to make that point. Wow. I'm speechless. One of these days. Stephen A Smith is gonna put maximum hands on max. Yeah. Sounds like it's shut up. Yeah, he's gone a bit far. Now. Max. Do you know because he like he does it all the time. He's, he's

he's, he's super duper Whoa, super duper Whoa. And they said what she wants to do go what you had in your hand. I mean, he's projecting these things onto the Steven Naismith and I don't know if he realizes or not. He has to be aware of because Max is a super super intelligent person. So it's like by you saying that that's what Stephen A Smith means when he says that. It only makes it worse. Okay, now and this was this past week. These these clips. Yeah,

this is this is Thursday and Friday. Thursday was when this is Thursday is when I decided to do this show. Because when I heard the max is black and and Stephen A Smith. I hit my best friend and my he's my confidant, you know, we talk about like, how things are land. And I was like, do Did you see this crap? And I was like, Yep, I gotta do a show on this. I gotta, I gotta cover this because this is an Bucha right here. Well, so you've set us up perfectly for what's what's

coming next. And I can only imagine with all these pieces on the feet. I don't know what's happening in football land and what what a great moment will be eat other than Super Bowl is the only moment I know about. But it seems like we need a Nike campaign a shoe. And in some kind of slogan or something we need now he needs to cease needs to start cashing in. And we know it's not going to be on playing ball. Now the NFL that's why I said the NFL is part of this story is

a wrap. Because they proved to him prove to people that want to see it. Colin Kaepernick doesn't want to play in the NFL, because we gave him the opportunity to come showcase his talent. And he pulled this. I mean, he did. His team did what was best for their interests, and their interest is not playing football, is to be a social justice icon. So I understand it from that standpoint, I don't support it, but I understand what their motives were. And NFL got what they want it because they got to

say, well, that's done. And now which is where there's Colin Kaepernick go from here. Well, exactly. And it's, it's going to be a complicated affair. Because as far as so he got paid. He got he got millions of 123 20. Who cares? 1 million is a lot of money. Mo he's, we told you he signed the deal for what 126 million? Yeah, I mean, it's not like he's heard from my I mean, that's exactly but but Nike is in an interesting spot. So we're going

to see is the NFL, the koonta kente of Nike. Because Nike pays a big ask Bill for all of this stuff. Nike controls a lot in sports. So if they say hey, Kaepernick is our guy, and we're gonna use him for the Wii ready campaign or whatever. antagonize the NFL up to the Super Bowl. Maybe I don't I don't know anything about the football. But it seems like that would be the move. And I think it's gonna be interesting. They're probably all in on it and just keep the controversy going. Money flows.

The controversy definitely helps Nike and NFL really can't fight Nike because they're in bed with them. Yeah, they already they already showed the NBA to shut up. Yeah, so I mean, he's the daddy is everybody's Daddy. Yes, Mac. Well, and I got this question for you might be the answer for me. Now, when we talk about Nike versus the NFL, that's one thing but when we talk about Nike versus Disney here Yeah, well, oh, gosh, that's a good one. Because

Disney of course is the biggest parent company. The evil Deathstar. Man there's so big there's so incredibly big, so powerful. And it's amazing that stitch Shannon's sharpening kit, any blowback from his identical stance and Steven a Smith, right Steven a Smith was labeled a bad guy who works for ESPN. Who is the parent company of of daughter company of Disney, but daughter company of Disney. Yes. So that's where we add Alright, so what do you think what do you think's gonna

happen? What do what are we what are we look out for? I think something's gonna flare back up again around the Superbowl time because Mr. Jay Z. He's the he's been hired. Yes, they've been planning. He's like a wedding planner for football. Glorified event planner. I mean, let's be honest here. So I'm sure the woke crowd will have something to say about candles that the performances of the of the NFL alright, I'll make a prediction roll. I'll make a prediction.

Yes, I'll make one. You will not believe the Nike commercial you'll see during the Superbowl that would be my prediction. Wait one minute, wait one minute almost slipped something out of here. Okay, so there was the article with the Colin Kaepernick said he's gonna schedule another workout this spring and he's gonna take it to wherever the South Florida where the NFL owners hold their hold their yearly conference it Uh huh. But that's after the Super Bowl. Right? That's after Super

Bowl. So I mean, that's that's their plan for next season. Yeah, you gotta keep the course. You got you gotta gotta keep the Colin Kaepernick show going. He's gotten he's got picked up he's got another season so he might as well the series is doing well. If you can do three more years you can go into syndication and live forever. Wow. Mo thank you so much for for unfolding this. Then again, I learned a lot really because not just because I'm a white guy

is because I don't know football. And that really, and I took copious show notes. So there'll be in the show notes, which are all linked to Edmo facts.com. And this is good. Thank you so much. As you know, there's a couple people I want to keep my eye on. Is you still with the same girlfriend? Tab? Yes. Okay. keep my eye on her. And she's still tweet and we do

that or did she stop tweeting? Did she wish she did and she's still she's still working she still works and she has an ordinary career on television in radio and other things. So it's this weird thing that he you know, he takes all the action or takes all the brunt of the the blows and then she she gets to live her life. I mean, he to me, he's the use of ATM and a puppet. And so and a fantastic Outro Song for this show. Which relates to content Kaepernick. I'm just gonna say it on the show. I

won't say it anywhere else. It's just between you and me. This is between you hey I'm the Steven A they're so thank you, man. This is great. I cannot wait to do it all over again on Monday after cookout Yeah. Wish I was not invited to I'll point that out. Thanks mo Are you welcome and as always say pay attention to everything and the truth will reveal itself. And we'll be back on Monday. Check us out and Moe facts.com and donate on us oh baby Stop Loving. Me