12: White Guilt

For more facts with Adam curry for October 21 2019. This is episode number 12. And this morning, something strange happened at 7:31am I got a text message from my partner in crime, who said, Hey, man, let's talk about the title today what we're going to be doing. Good morning, Moe. How are you? Hi. How you doing, sir? I'm doing I'm doing well. Yeah, so I really appreciate your call. He said, Okay, man, we're going for the

mother lode. This is the big one. Just want to let you know, I don't want you to be blindsided now. So go for the big one here. Yes, the big one is, is white privilege. Nice, white, white guilt, white supremacy. It's the trifecta. Very nice. Yes. You can't discuss one without the other. That's right. That's right. This is something that I've been very interested in. I've, I've posited my own theories about not so much about the origin of white guilt. But what white guilt has done to wokeness. Or

perhaps I would say, created wokeness. And it's very interesting to me, man, I am excited to hear what you've got to roll out for us. So this this start, oh, we got a lot of clips today. So I want to jump right in. So this started with a DM you sent me from a New York Times article talking about the effects of white guilt on the 2020 election. So I was gonna do this last week. But the NBA and China, it was it was it had to go we had to get it on then. And by

the way, we finished that show. Just before LeBron James came out with his whole like, well, you know, who could have hurt someone financially. So that was we didn't get it in that show. But it was interesting how it unfolded. It was very interesting. Hi unfolded. And one thing I didn't notice that came up was shut up in dribble white supremacy or any other kowtow into the powers that be know exactly. That goes to show you people pick and choose when they want to use

these terms. So what we're going to talk about today is white guilt. And to talk about white guilt, we have to go back, we always have to go back to the root of these things. So I found it on the root of white guilt. Is White supremacy. For the people that don't know. found it interesting. It was a well, you want to call it a speaking engagement by Mr. Shelby Steele. Are you familiar with Mr. Shall we still sir? No,

I don't think so. Alright, so shall we still he's, he's the conservative, I have to say that. He's the author and senior fellow at Stanford University. And he wrote the book on white guilt, the actual book on white guilt, and what is the book called white guilt? Yes. Okay. All right. So he was given a speech and not this, the speech that he gave, or speaking against a speaking engagement that he gave is going

to be the backdrop of this whole show. So we're gonna go in and out of that speaking engagement, and then have supplemental clips. Okay. So what he's saying what he's saying the the title of the book is white guilt, how blacks and whites together destroyed the pomp promise of the civil era. Yes. Okay. Got it. So I guess we'll jump right in with white supremacy. One is begins it seems to me in a phenomenon that, I think at any rate is one of the most important important events

certainly in in late 20th century history. I think, even more important than the collapse of communism. That happened in the 80s. And that is the collapse or the de legitimization to use the long awkward word of white supremacy. And it's, it has seemed it's interesting to me that this this phenomenon has gone unremarked on commented on in many ways.

But white supremacy was an enormously important force idea in the world for centuries and organized the entire globe and an extended the nation state system from one end of the world to the other so it's it's mark will will never leave the world. And it gave a cohere Hear us to the world. All right, I love it history lesson. Yes. So he's speaking about how white supremacy supposedly he's

a believer. Let me clarify, he's a believer that white supremacy ended, are basically went underground and had no power after the Civil Rights Movement, which is my personal belief. I don't think that's to be so I am not a white supremacy denier. But I want to, in this show, clearly, clearly define what I believe is to be white supremacy. And the reason why that is important to white guilt is, let me explain the relation between the three things that we laid out, we have white

supremacy, white privilege, and then white guilt. The way they are related is that if there is a system of white supremacy desist, if you appear to be quote unquote, white, then you unknowingly, or normally receive privileges from being a camp to that system. Right. And also from being a camp to that system, and receiving those privileges. Some people are made to feel guilty of that. So that's the relation between the three

and that sounds about right. And it was, for me, it was I'm gonna say about four years ago, my now wife, then, girlfriend at the time, Tina, we had a dinner at here in Austin with some people I affectionately called the Obama bots. And they knew that and, you know, we discussed pretty much politics and everything like that specifically. So I would have content for the no agenda Show podcast, so it was okay with

them. But at this one particular dinner, there was a professor from UT Austin Pennebaker, I'm actually a big fan of what he's done with performative, he wrote a book about, well, you should look it up performative. Then Professor Pennebaker and his wife were both there. And at a certain point, he said, Excuse me, you've got white privilege, you know that right? And no one had ever said that, to me, I'd never really even heard the term. And I was offended by him saying that, that now since that

time, of course, you know, a lot has happened. I've kept my eyes and my ears open. But I do remember the initial, the initial accusation to me was triggering. And that's just a little bit of history what I have. And I can see why that would be triggering. The term white privilege didn't really circulate in the black community. That term now the understanding that according to Wikimedia, according to Wikipedia, it didn't really start until black lives matter. Now. That's wiki

pedia. So take that with what you want. But I believe that's when even if it existed, it may exist in the academic, academic realm, where in everyday life, you know, a minute, that seems like white privilege, you know, what black guy talks like that? We know, we know. For instance, I'll give you a great example of what white privilege would be. One guy gets hot water outside crack, and he gets 20 years and another guy gets caught with an ounce of coke. And he gets a slap on the wrist.

Yeah, this is a very clear case of I mean, the whole thing was messed up. And that's mainly the crack epidemic in Los Angeles. And the elites who decided that there was a difference between crack you know, as Whitney Houston would say, crack is wack. And by the classy cocaine, so it was a classist thing in a way and a price point thing, but of course, it was. It was a it screwed over black people in Los Angeles who are addicted to crack for sure.

Yes, and we see how another drug epidemic, the opioid epidemic has been handled. It's a white, white problem. So we can't say these things don't exist. But let's not get too far ahead of ourselves. Because what we need to do is one identify if we have to what I plan to do with this whole show, our episode is to one identify accurately identify and define what white supremacy

is right now. Because then if people understand what that is, then they'll understand what the white privileges are or what a white privilege appears to be. And then how people bastardize these terms and accurately on personal gain and or to trigger other people and I would want to ask up front, maybe this is coming later down the road. White supremacy is also often inter intertwined with the term institutional racism? Are these the same things? Is it the same? Or we will just would just

Should I just sit back and relax and we'll find out what? Well, let's go through these next set of clips. And then we'll, we will clearly identify what white supremacy is, by the end of next, like three or four clips, let's get into Shelby Steele, white supremacy to the important thing, I think to understand about white supremacy, is not whether or not it really is an argument for the

supremacy of whites or the inferiority of other races. But what was important about it was the idea that whiteness constituted in and of itself, moral authority. And so that if a black man in Africa met a white man on a path somewhere, and there were no there was no one around within 50 miles, the black man would have to carry the white man's bags, because whiteness was authority. And, and thus it was in those it was

power. And so whites then could, could very given given that authority could very reasonably go around the world and take over whatever territories they they desired and to take whatever resources they desired. And to then sort of corral the people into some sort of servitude if it's so suited them well, so you see, it was a really powerful, enormously powerful idea that made gave a certain meaning to life in the world. Right? This is the times of colonialism I presume.

This is from colonialism all the way up to the Civil Rights is what he's speaking of. Now, where me and Mr. Shelby Steele part ways is he believes that white supremacy no longer exists. Or like I say, it has become so cleanse debt clandestine that it doesn't really have any power. That's where I disagree with him. So now we're going to get into some some clips from Mr. Neely Fuller, Mr. Neely fuller. Let me

give you some background on him. He's well highly touted Mr. Neely fuller Jr. His full name he was born in October 6 1929. So just to give you a from his age perspective, he served in two branches of the armed forces. He served in the Army in the Korean War conflict. Um so he, he took part in the American dream. He took part in you know, in fighting wars for America. So I think that gives him certain validity to his statements. Because he could speak he could speak from probably accurately

from all angles on this topic. And when I'm when I bring people like Mr. Shelby Steele to the table or Mr. Neely fuller says table, it's just on that particular topic. They speak home. So myself, I believe Neely Fuller, accurately defines racism, racism and white supremacy. Well, there's we are on our system of white supremacy. That's the most powerful government that the world has

ever seen. And that's the title of it. By the way, it doesn't go by now the title even though we sometimes call it by other titles, but the accurate title for the government that we are under is in the capital letters, the system of white supremacy worldwide. It's just one world government. And that's the only government in town knowing the government on the planet that really counts. That is worthy of having a title of government. Whoa, okay, hold

on. While while he was saying this is the One World Government which is a very globalist term familiar without of course New World Order. I looked up the definition of supremacy and it's a while this Ascendance domination, Dominion hegemony, Imperium examples of supremacy in a sentence the Roman Empire had supremacy over the entire Mediterranean world. Yes, yes. Yes. Yes. It seems he worried there he were there am higher than empire. Yes, sir. Okay, great. Oh, man. I love the dictionary.

So I think this is why me and you Adam could have these Conversations, because we're coming and identifying the same thing by different terms. Even Mr. Fuller even identify, so you can call it different names. I think you call it a elitism or the elites. But there is a governing system in this world. And a one world government is trying to trick being trying to be pushed. Yes, and

this is a frequent topic for us on this show. It's a frequent, you're right, it is why we have always been able to communicate completely at the same level, because we hold the same beliefs of, of this type of shenanigans going on. And that's why when I first became an NA listener, I understood exactly what you guys were saying, even though you were calling this system by a different name. So let's go on

and let Neely fuller. Define the system, even more people who believe in dominating and mistreating people based on color, in the form of what we call racism, or white supremacy. Those people collectively, are the dominant force in all nine areas of activity on this planet that we call are in every area of activity, 24/7 economics, education, entertainment, labor, law, politics, religion, sex, and war. And they believe in

dominating and mistreating people based on color. They are the smartest and most powerful men and women on the planet. Unfortunately, that's the way it is. Where's the list? Give me the list of these people that have the least he said, it's these dominant men and women give me the list right away. I want to know who it is. Because that's what I've been looking for, for at least 30 years. Well, we know who it is, and we don't know who it is. We have no

idea who it is. I mean, we point to almost every show. It's this. It's the Soros is of the world. And even the level above him. I think we use Soros as a icon of a way of thinking, yeah, representation. Sure. Absolutely. Right. Right. So we use him as a to point to like, this is how they work. This is how they operate. But you don't have to be in this. This is where we get into race and color and these things. You don't have to be white, to operate and be a agent of white

supremacy. The reason why I say this is Barack Obama was an agent of white supremacy. Yep. He pushed the agenda of globalism. When you go to the UN, you see many faces of different colors. But they're pushing they received their power from this power structure. And they they do the bidding of that power structure. And I think those people are even more beneficial when they don't look like your typical iconic, for lack of better word white supremacist, and I know we're

using that word a lot. But for the people that get triggered by that we have something for Adam. Oh, yes. If you got something we got? We got. But if I get triggered, then I hit this one. What more do you want from me? What what's what's what's interesting? What's interesting is that now I lost my train. Alright, go continue. Well, I'll come back to as good now. So just the system, like I said, it's a system, if you want to call it elite, if you want to call it the Illuminati, if you

want to call I mean, it's a elite. And we have to be honest, as you go up this pyramid, pun intended. The appearance is start to look the same. Now to do a one to one correlation to say all everybody that looks like that benefits from this system. I think that's pretty inaccurate. They can move inconspicuously in the system, but I don't think they benefit from it. The reason why I say that is and this will always say why American slavery was different from any other

slavery, probably in the world or in history. Even if I bought my freedom in American slavery, I will always be identified as a slave by my appearance. Whereas throughout history, my enslaved my the people that slave me, will look like Let me do two, we were, you know, geographically close or, you know, are just different tribes or different clans or countries. So I think that's the difference. Why color and race factor into this form of empire?

Right. Whereas I think I've always made it clear that we're all really slaves of Gitmo nation. And I think that's kind of what I mean by there's a system up there, and you know, we're all and we all have to adhere to it, or we're expected to adhere to it, regardless of color. What's the Comenius? 90 says? It's the club a when, when George Carlin had to be a band, you ain't in it? Right? Very few of us are in it. So let's get let's finish out with

Mr. Neely fuller as if coop? Oh, let me say this. So we, I think he's accurately identified what this system is. And I think me and you agree that there is a governing body over the world that may call the shots. Now, we might call it different names. But I think we're identifying the same ruling class. Absolutely. So Mr. Neely Fuller, is gonna lay out how you fix that problem. Now, that's a problem. It's a huge problem, because nobody on the planet should be dominated and mistreated based on

anything, whether it's coal or anything else. But that's what this alone is a system that we have on the planet, we don't have any other system. There are no other systems, none. Zilch. So, the question is, what would you please replace that system with? Logically speaking, since it is a system of non justice, you replace it with a system of justice, which means what? Two elements according to what I have written anyway, and that is

guarantee end, no person is mistreated. And guaranteeing that the person that needs help the most gets the most constructive help. Now, that's what you go to the table with each and every day each and every time, wherever you are on the planet. That that's the kind of plan that you want. Okay, so we've seen this word pop up. Justice. Yes, this is a

favorite word of left. In the United States. Certainly the Democrats always talk about justice, this justice that whereas the right or the Republicans always talk about liberty, and freedom, and justice is a big now you can Yes, now you can see why how it's being hijacked. Right? Because at the real root of the problem, and this goes back to two shows ago, when we talked about the the cop shooting case, yep. All everyone wanted was

justice, or what they perceived to be justice. And when that doesn't happen, it only in flames, that the system exists or appears to exist. Now, we dug deeper and understood the interacting so that the case, but on the outer surface, yeah. Yeah, absolutely. Yes. Go I'm sorry. Yeah, social justice. Well, this is where social justice warriors come from, of course. Yes. Makes sense. Yeah, so Dude, we've heard we hear people talk about this all

the time. And we heard in recent news, even a political candidate of the 2020 election talk about this one being Mrs. Tulsi Gabbard. Gabbard, excuse me, the regime change wars. What is that? When you go in to change the way a country is running itself, just off of the benefits to economics, that is an example of this system. Oh, yes. And no, by and this goes back, you know, a long time. But I would start for the US just in recent memory, the

Vietnam War, you know, so what's the commies? Oh, man, we can't have the communist coming. Any closer to our interests in the Middle East as well, I think is generally accepted by the population now that oh, well, that was just about oil or something. But in in essence, it was it's much bigger. And going back to the Paris 1912 agreement and how the Middle East was divided up that was done by the white privilege system. Isn't there's no doubt about it. No one can argue that.

So this is where, like I said before, Shelby Steele, he says that the system of white supremacy no longer is This war, I think is I think that it shifted. It became not by force or by intimidation. It became economic. As we've all read in the book, whoever read the book, the economic hitman, John Perkins, one of my favorite books, yes, they infiltrate the country's. They leverage the people in charge. And then the people in charge basically becomes puppets of the systems

of the system. So we have a clip from the economic hitman himself. It is catching up with John Perkins economist, activist and author, one of his best selling books, Confessions of an economic hitman has been translated into over 30 languages, it is an insider's account of the alleged exploitation of third world countries by the American government. Sir, thank you very much for sitting down with us. You have been an economic hitman for about 10 years. What

exactly does that job entail? We economic hitmen have created the world's first truly global empire? And is the first empire in history that's been created primarily without the military through economics? Yes, this is he worked for Bechtel Corporation, very similar, or even KBR. These are the Kellogg, brown and root. These are the companies that with or without war, go into other countries, either take stuff, buy stuff, bring in Western companies to rebuild the rubble that has been created and

take over. And he also speaks of the jackals who they will send in when people in these other countries resist to the regime change. So you have a list of countries that were planned to be destabilize in Roblox is the word you like to use? Yes, I call it I call it the West Clark seven. And I have the clip, if you want me to play that I don't.

Because you do that as a background just to show how we identify Not we, but how the Empire identifies countries they need to take over and then they come up with a reason how to do it. Yeah. So let me just make sure I get the right one here. General Wesley Clark, two weeks after 911 was called, I think, into the Pentagon. And it was there that he was handed a note that talked about the countries we were going to go after, because of this 911 disaster. And he was kind enough to actually tell us,

so I came back to see him a few weeks later. And by that time, we were bombing in Afghanistan. I said, Are we still going to war with Iraq? And he said, Oh, what's worse than that? He said, He reached over on his desk, he picked up a piece of paper. He said, I just he said I just got this down from upstairs mean,

circulated Vince's office today. And he said this a memo that describes how we're going to take out seven countries in five years, starting with Iraq, and then Syria, Lebanon, Libya, Somalia, Sudan, and finishing off Iran. And I've kept track of this list. And just recently, in fact, we talked about it yesterday on the no agenda show. It looks like Lebanon may be on deck, we've got pretty much every other country. If not that we've gone in there. We've We've

got them in our sights. And that's obvious. You know, the final, the final one on the list, there is Iran. So that would be the big one. And well, and you only have to look at the news to know what's going on. So yeah, it's the system has not slowed down since General Wesley Clark mentioned those seven countries. So either he had a crystal ball, or those countries were identified as targets. And we were just looking for a reason or a way in to attack those countries. So we have another

clip from the economic hitman. And he details the process of how they actually take over countries. And we work many different ways economic hitman, but perhaps the most common is that we will identify a third world country that has resources our corporations covet, like oil, and then arrange a huge loan to that country from the World Bank or one of its sister organizations, but the money

never actually goes to the country. Instead, it goes to our own corporations to build big infrastructure projects in that country. Things like power plants and industrial parks and highways, the benefit of few wealthy families in that country, as well as our own corporations, but don't help the majority of the people. The whole country is less holding this huge debt. Being so it's all so it's all about debt. It's all about

leverage. And He said third world countries, and most of the third world countries are people of color, which I hate that term. But well, no, why you are? You're correct. And we have even more recent examples of this. With the European Union, Greece was completely obliterated economically, financially and targeted by the International Monetary Fund. Big hedge funds, Goldman Sachs, JP Morgan, and the place is still in shambles.

We're going on 15 years now, of what's been happening there. And yes, the Greeks are a little darker than the Northern Europeans. And I'll as I always say, specifically, I just could speak from my group of people, we feel the impact first, we're kind of like, let's run the test plan on them. And if it works, then we will take it abroad, or we'll take it and then eventually, it filters out until all of all of the population of noni leaves.

So we've seen this, and we've been telling people that when you hear terms like the man or the suits, right, oh, wow. What is that referring to? them? Are they? There's a lot of them? They Yeah, sure. Right. So um, let's finish up with the economic hitman. And it's such a big debt that they can't repay it. So at some point, we economic hitmen go back to them and say, you can't

pay your debts. So give us a pound of flesh, sell your oil, real cheap to our oil companies, or vote with us on the next critical United Nations vote, were sent troops and supportive hours to someplace in the world like Iraq, when we fail, then what we call the jackals step in and these are people who overthrow governments or assassinate their leaders. And on the very few occasions when both economic hitmen and the jackals fail, as we both did in Iraq, then and only then does

the military step in. And it's pretty secret, because most people in the United States don't realize that they're reaping the benefits from this empire, they don't realize about the exploitation of resources and environments and people and sweatshops and so on all over the world are a result of this. I think it's fair to say that this process is a huge threat to democracy. And if the majority of the people who vote in the country don't understand this most basic principle of our

foreign policy, then we're not informed. If we're not informed as to how to say that we're voting truly democratically, which I think is a big concern. You know, as he talks in, it just reminds me of his book, which is still one of my favorites. It's interesting that the Chinese are adhering to a complete economic hitman operation mainly across Africa, but many other countries. Okay, I hit something there. Yes, maybe across Africa. Yes. Now,

this is not white privilege, per se. Because you can't say the Chinese are white. But, you know, Caucasian. I've wondered when once someone told me, Hey, you know, you're Caucasian and like, Oh, okay. So there's a relation there, perhaps. And there's a color spectrum there. Yeah. In Asia, the higher you go up, the closer to, quote unquote, white that you get. And this is where colorism comes in. All the shows that we had previous to this

is just it's just been this is the crescendo. This is the climax is the climax. And when when, when the economic hitman going into those countries or the country, they speak to the Boulais. Yeah, every country, every creative man had a Boulais to say, You know what, we see the bigger picture. You know, somebody's got a bit of benefit from this Washington to be us. And then we'll help our people in the end, and we saw that and my group of people, it was people that took deals on our behalf.

And then when they didn't want to comply, they say in the actual hitman, or the jackals, right. So I mean, it's, this is what we're looking at. So, mister, going back to Mr. Shelby Steele and him and his speech, and he's going to speak on civil rights. In 1964. We passed the civil rights bill in the United States in 1965. We passed the voting rights, the Voting Rights Act. Both of these acts these in the I think they are some of the greatest social legislation never passed anywhere in the

world ever written anywhere in the world. There the model for, for other such legislation around the world. And inherent in the in this legislation was the acknowledgement on the part of America, that it had done something very wrong, that racism was wrong, that slavery was wrong that segregation was wrong, that white supremacy itself was wrong. I think this was America's greatest moment. Here was a nation that morally

came to terms with itself faced itself. I'm not aware of this, maybe it has happened, but I'm not aware of it anywhere else in the world before this happening. We're a society, rich and powerful looks at itself examines itself in the way that America did at that period of time, and makes the decision to change and acknowledges the wrong and vows to become a different kind of society.

It's interesting how such a seminal moment in American history is used as such a club these days just to beat people over the head with Yes, and it was it. I'm gonna sound cynical, but was it a seminal moment? The reason why I asked it asked that question is, he said, this country took a look at yourself and plying a reflection or a mirror. Adam, do you know what that mirror was? Huh? No. The television screen? I feel like a dope. That was an E it was like that was another

ally you for the curry Meister? Yes, of course. Of course. And telephone a lot to do with that. Yes, sir. When these images started making their way on television, whether they were staged are naturally occurring. It made people feel one one shame. Because like, how, how can this happen? Oh, and two, way out of shame comes guilt. Correct? Yes. So we start seeing the correlations here. Yes, yes. So let's go and look at the role of media in the civil rights.

As a story, the Civil Rights Movement had it all. Good versus evil, drama, social upheaval. But at first America's major media ignored it, especially in the South. It was our responsibility to find a way to dramatize the issue was Congressman John Lewis says that the movements leaders realized to bring change, they needed to reach white Americans. How did you do that? As a movement. We literally put our bodies on the line.

Jim fluence on the Civil Rights coverage, Hank klibanoff co wrote the race beat a book about the media and the movement. Well, race was a big story in the south beginning in the 40s and 50s. It's just that no one knew about it. Finally, by 1957 Major northern newspapers discover the drama

and the story. How do you feel about integrated passengers that television networks followed, even major southern media paid attention to the open hatred, you got to kick the white in the black set and the violent response to peaceful protest? If you're gonna beat us, beat us in the light of day, beat us while the cameras on

on gov. This was Selma, Alabama, 1965. Among the bloodied John Lewis, American people could not stand to see young children and all women being knocked down by fire hoses and chased by police stole. Yeah, you know. I'm just a little bit too young to have witnessed all that until I have other experiences from the from the late 60s, which we may get into later. But yeah, oh, man,

of course. You when You showed normal, rational people what was going on and how people were willing to put themselves into the line of fire, so to speak, it definitely had an impact. Very powerful. Yeah, and so even John Lewis said, we had to dramatize Yeah, his words. Yeah, dramatize even so much so. Ah. Rosa Parks wasn't in the first Rosa Parks. Oh, man. Mo don't blow my mind now. Claudette Colvin? Oh, yes, I do know this name, of course. Uh huh.

Make sure I have the name right. I know how the story right? But yeah Clotet COVID Si, si o l Vi n, if you want to look at who for those who don't look it up. She was the original Rosa Parks. Only problem is one she had illegitimate children. So she didn't make for the perfect. She's not the not the right casting for the role. Right also some say some slightly esteemed ether, that she was too dark for the role as well, because we all know Rosa

Parks was fair skinned. And it happened to be a work for the NAACP. Right. So I mean, just to go show you the dramatization, not taking anything away from these people that like I say he they put their bodies on the line. But if you understand that television is going to be a problem. And there's there's a correlation here because we've seen the civil rights movement.

With the technology increasing with television, we see a one on one correlation with the the increase in technology with the new television, ie the smartphone and outrage, and Silviu social justice movements only now it's a lot, it's a lot easier to mess with people's

brains and social media. It's so ready just to put stuff into people's heads and imagery and memes is really important in this means, oh, my goodness, you know, the modern carrier will say the same thing about they will say the same thing about television. And those times Absolutely. Where it was, he said there used to be just a picture in the newspaper, maybe a radio story. But now when you could put motion picture, people being blown over by water hoses, dogs attacking them, it was very

beneficial to, to the movement, enact that chain. Well. In fact, to this day, this type of tactic is being used with Hong Kong, where messages are being are circulating everywhere of Tiananmen Square. There's no one photo that shows dead bodies will just run over by tanks. And you know, this is brought into this Hong Kong situation continuously. Just as an aside mo very interesting to me that Claudette Colvin has no Wikipedia entry. That tells you something right there, doesn't

it? Yeah. But it's funny that you say about the memes and the visuals. Because in Hong Kong, the eyepatch. Yeah, is the is the imagery or the symbolism for Hong Kong now. Yeah, so much so and it's finished. This is funny, and we won't get back on track here that the One World System is eating itself, because now they're pulling all the one eye Illuminati symbolism because they're scared above me now. Oh, my goodness, I hadn't even hadn't even thought about that.

The one the all seeing eye and the eye patch. You know, the models they love to do the Yeah. The triangle and all that crap. Yes, they're pulling it all because here to be symbolism to Hong Kong. Nice. Alright, so getting back to the media and the civil rights movement, movement to we will drama times this whole situation by marching by the 1000s.

Television also found Martin Luther King's, the Reverend Martin Luther King, Jr. will face the nation, Americans heard a leader who shattered racial stereotypes. We feel that the time has come for a full scale assault on the system of segregation. This man is someone you could actually talk to and who seemed quite reasonable for white Southerners. This was new information and part of a national awakening. It was the media that carried a message to the rest of the nation.

Protest became progress once the media woke up. And Americans Rosa. Mark Strassman, CBS News, Atlanta. dramatized dramatize right off the bat. Yeah. So So we've seen how I'm sorry. For his many times. I've heard Martin Luther King speeches. It never hit me. When he said dramat They'd never hit me. And just now Oh, okay. Of course. He was, you know, he's the 60s version of memes. And he was perfect for the role. It was young. Great, great

voice. Great. You're saying, Ah, awesome. Speaker. And just he would like to say perfect for the role that they were looking for a young, a young black articulate man, that was camera friendly, friendly. When you said that. I'm sorry, when you say he was perfect for what they were looking for. Yes, they being Balete. Just checking that yeah, the day pretty much. Yeah, big vague. Gotcha. Yeah. So and but what was his message nonviolence? Not gonna cause too much trouble. He

was palatable, too, to the what? What was the other option? Yeah, well, he also had got on his side that made that easier. Yes. So this is the source of shaming. And like I said, before, we look at the relationship between shaming and guilt. So now we go back to Mr. Shelby Steele, and he explains to us further what white guilt is.

So White guilt, then is not a guilt of conscience. It's not, um, I can't sleep at night, because I'm so guilty about what happened to black Americans before I was born, it's not that kind of if White guilt was that, then we wouldn't be here today talking about this, this phenomenon, but it is this vacuum of moral authority, just not be not having the authority to be able to speak about any number of issues, race, poverty, and so forth, because of having acknowledged this, this past,

the sins of the past. White Guilt is enforced, by us by stigma. When when you acknowledge that you were a part of a group that you belong to a group that did it wrong in the past, think if you want to, I think see this in vivid terms, think of the Germans after World War Two, the stigma of having been a Nazi having a Nazi in your family, an uncle who was whatever? Well, you might not, you might yourself not have been a Nazi might not might never have subscribe to that point of

view. But outside of Germany, all Germans, in a sense became from from then on stigmatized by the sin of Nazism. And other people could look at them and have a certain again, moral authority in relation to them. Well, in many ways, I think that's what happened in in America, whites became stigmatized, as as racist. And from that point on, whites are in the position of forever having to prove the negative, that they're not a racist. Wow, this is very good. And I hadn't considered that

comparison. Having grown up in the Netherlands, where many of my friends grandparents had, you know, spheroid numbers tattooed on their forearms from from the concentration camp. You know, there were Germans in Holland all the time, either on business or vacationing. And as I grew older, you know, we had Germans who we'd be friends with or whatever. And it was, to me at

least always obvious, they were really trying to be nice. You know, they were the new Germans. And I think someone actually said it to me one time to get where the new German Shannon this is, and they definitely are very cognizant of their past. And and yeah, I guess it is a form of oh, man, we were really assholes in the in the past. And so I just want you to know, we're not like that. We're cool, man. We're okay, we're, but

still, and this is where it gets tough. These grandparents, that would always be wary, that he's German, you know, so there was this period, before everybody dies off. It takes a while. And I think now, rarely does anyone even make a joke about Germans being Nazis, whereas that used to be kind of normal. You could say to a German guy. Yeah, I know how you'd like to dominate. You know, you could say that stuff, and you'd have a good laugh over it. But now that's kind of gone. And that so that's

in less than, you know, so what is that? 80 7080 years, and that's kind of gone. But very important. I think for this. You can't tell by looking at someone if they're German or not. Exactly. And that's what I was speaking about before with the, the color people or people of color versus non people of color, right? That you can't. And I use this term before, but I didn't use it in jest. closeted you know, you could be

a closeted German, you know, yes, exactly exactly. Where with me like I said back in what you can be a closeted German easily I mean no one would know so this is where we get to with the guilt, the shame, and it's like proof prove you're not a racist Adam prove this you're not a racist investor conversation proving a negative is impossible I okay now I want to tell this story 1969 I'm five years old. We're living in Kensington, Maryland. And you know, and it's this morning, your phone call

actually triggered this. And also I'm writing my book. And so you know, things are coming into my mind that I haven't thought about. So I'm five and I don't. And you don't really remember much when you're when you're five, but I remember very distinctly a feeling I had. My parents were both government employees. And it was I think it was a Saturday. No, I'm sure it was a Saturday, they said, Hey, we're having some colleagues come over from work. And you know, there'll be here. I don't

know if they said they were black. But it was a family of four mom, dad, son, daughter. And they were colleagues. They also state government employees. And I remember they were so dressed up like son and we went to church on Sundays by any a Unitarian Church. Okay, we went to church, and, and I remembered them all dressed up. You know, like Sunday best and like, why? Thank you for ringing that bell. And, and that moment, I and I'm trying to bring it up now. I felt I felt very emotional about

it. I don't know if it was wow. You know, and they weren't really talkative. You know, they were like, yes. And a lot of Yes, yes. Do Yes, sir. No, ma'am. All the likes really being on their Sunday best and, and my, my sister was very young, but I was like, I just want to hang out and play. And I remember feeling not guilty. Be honest with him. I think I felt sorry. And I and I didn't know anything about the civil rights. And I'm five, you know, I'm fine. And I don't think I'd

really interacted with black kids. Certainly not in Kensington, Maryland at the time, I'm sure that's changed now. And that's what I felt. And I and it was very odd to me. But it was not just color. But it was the whole thing. You know, the being extra, extra dressed up and extra and like, didn't make sense to me. I hope that it's coming out. If you understand what I'm saying here, the reason why I rang my bell, I'm going to be on the opposite

side of that conversation. This is a phenomenon that I grew up under. When we went somewhere, you look your best. It wasn't the fact that all you want to impress white people, is the fact that we're not going to feed into the stereotypes. We're going to defeat the stereotypes. So you had to be art every day. But that's really weird because all I wanted was for another kid to show up with a Schwinn bike, you know, it's like hey, man,

let's go have a run around the neighborhood. So it had an adverse effect on me at the time. Well, this is the conversation no ask for anything. Don't

embarrass us that you get in the car. And I was telling my wife I was like you know the weird thing now is and I can say no, when I do generalities, generalities is just for the sake of conversation of course you know who you know who does that now, the newly immigrated we go to when we go to school functions, all the kids you know like calling out like I may say if it calls for like a core course

recital. They have a white shirt, black pants, you know, black shoes, the girls wear dresses, the newly immigrated you can identify them because the way they dress right arrays so neat is so clean you know Wellcamp and they you look at the American cute quote unquote American kids it's like well, and subsequently just just attack arm that when it comes to

clothing. Of course, every black guy I've known is much better at doing clothes than I am and when I went to college and my roommate as black, I learned how to wash and dry and fold Uh, and you know, so that's just it's a purely cultural difference, but man, I'm happy for it. Yeah, my grandma show me how to iron it like Tim Yeah, 19 years

old. I mean, because he's the way you carry yourself. And that and that comes from like I said, that generational thing you mostly your grandparents and parents, like, you know, we're new. Black people weren't new, the integrator at this period. I mean, if you really want to, I mean it to decide, this is 1969. Mo, this is, you know, this is right, right after it all went down, you know, right. I mean, I know from from people, oh, what you mean by

immigrants? Because we were right on the fringe of society. And now we were allowed. And so it's like, we had the same mentality as newly immigrated people now that are observed, but what you just hit home for me, you said, you're in the car, don't ask questions. Don't embarrass us. That if that'll, by the way, that'll fuck you up as a kid. Well, you got to understand what's riding on that wheel? It will. Yeah, it will. I'm not saying won't with my age. The

whole race is riding on your shoulders. Yeah, we you go into environments. And you know what, to be honest with you. During this podcast. I feel that. Well, good, because it does. Without this podcast, we devolve into race war. So yes, we're right. Right. We are holding up the country and the universe Mo. Yes. So, Dr. Phil, he feels that he needs to chime in. And this is telling you how far the white conversation white privilege conversation had went when it starts to infiltrate daytime

television. So Dr. Phil, he goes and tries to define what is white privilege, let's start out by defining white privilege and what it is and what it is not. Now, first definition, Privilege is a special right or advantage, or immunity granted, or available only to a particular person or group. Now, when we say privilege, that just means that it's something that exist, it's not something that somebody created or grabbed, right?

Think about this, the famous story by David Foster Wallace, he said to Fisher, in the ocean, swimming along, they meet a elderly fish coming in other way. And he says, Good morning boys, how's the water, they go along a little piece they go what's water, when you're in it, you don't recognize that you're in it, you derive your existence from it, you derive your sustenance from it. So it's a set of practices and privileges based upon skin color is based upon assumptions about who

people are. So that's what privileges Yeah. All right, and we're talking here that the privilege is we said it goes to a group or an individual. And we're talking about the group being white here. And so white privilege, we're talking about inherent advantages, possessed by a white person on the basis of their race in a society that's

characterized by racial inequality or injustice. So the fish you're talking about here are white folks that are swimming in a society and they don't realize that this endures to their benefit, but it's not that they said, I'm going to position myself in a way that I have this advantage it just exists all around them all right. They sent a bunch of nothing their fish water, it's all on fee. And like I said, one of my favorite guys to ridicule Dr.

Michael Eric Dyson, with his word salad. And that's the problem. have a real conversation. Right? Me and you are having a real conversation. We're sharing personal experiences. You let me know what the other side of that conversation that we got into the guy in the car was about, you know, um, let you know what it was about. But we used to do this all we used to fish swimming, and he asked him what water

we can't just talk about human beings. You got to take it to fish right away in the water because I get Yeah, it's you know, because it's probably too painful for people to look inside themselves and identify with what's being said. I call bullshit, excuse me for saying that. And reason one on Dr. Michael Eric Dyson. He understands the World War One World Government, but he's not gonna have that conversation because he's an elite, or he's allowed to be in the elite

circle. He's not a really elite, but he's a pseudo elite. You know, so he's not gonna step on any toes so he doesn't lose his tenure at the you know, whatever universities that and he's not going to be labeled a problem child. So he goes out here and he makes people ordinary day people that don't really have any power, feel guilt and shame. But when you put him on a panel with a bunch of liberals that hold very stereotypical us stereotypical views of black people. He wants challenge him.

That's why I'm in is people like that we got to get rid of they gotta go. Yeah, here yeah, here gotta go because they're standing in the way of people have real conversations that can really bring about. And let me be clear. I mean we'll say one thing here about oh, I'll wait to address that. But yeah, I mean, you see here, you're on Dr. Phil, you have the platform of broadcast television. And that's what you came with fish.

Fry? Yeah. So and that's what he always does is these long, want to be effective communicator, you should be able to simply communicate things. That way, a multitude of different people can understand what you're saying on different levels. Right. But as you point out, he clearly was not authorized to do that he's his task is different. No, his task is to go out there and virtue signal and make white people feel guilty. For whatever reason of this.

Oh, well, I don't know. Well, if I may insert one thing. In 1971, talking about television, something very important happened in American life. And that was all in the family. And having Archie Bunker sit there and portray the seemingly stereotypical white collar. Blue, I'm sorry, blue collar, white working guy who hates the commies hates the Jews hates the blacks. You know, that was a guilt. You know, like throwing shade, it was throwing guilt all over the place. And it was the

number one show for almost a decade. And I think that did a lot to the American psyche. I grew up watching it. I remember my dad wrote a play version of all in the family that the church, they performed it at the church, and it was riddled with this kind of stuff. And it was totally intended to guilt white people was also funny, but it was because it made you laugh at

yourself. But at the same time, it was I think, very important, which we can and I'm not saying white people can atone, if you truly feel that you've held some racist beliefs or, you know, you've benefited from this system directly. You can atone for it. I'm not saying that, but making people antagonizing people. And it's done on both sides. Because what it does is it creates this circular argument of, oh, this is how it

goes. A white man, you, you you, you have white privilege. And then they say, Well, are you black people get welfare, and I'll get welfare, you know, and then it is this nonsensical, circular argument goes round and round and round. It's worse. I'm sorry, I can laugh. It's worse mo it's worse. White people will say to you, you've got white privilege. Well, they want to not what what did Shelby Steele saying the other one they want to prove the negative? This prove the

negative? It's like, oh, well, if I see a white guy and a black guy arguing. I gotta take the black guy aside for fear of me looking like a racist. Exactly. Exactly. Yeah. So that that's the root issue. Like I say it's non productive. I'm a solution based person, we can fix a lot of the problems. One is, like I say, we clearly realize there is a one world government and people that did not that, that they're the bigger problem. They're asleep, they got their eyes closed,

right are scared to say anything. But let's continue with Dr. Phil and Dr. Abraham Martin, the conversation doctor to become so difficult for so many people because when they think of privilege, they think that they should have socio economic advantage. So a lot of white people say I don't have any kind of white privilege. I'm poor. I

had to stand in the food line. My family was on welfare. And so they deny the existence of the privilege because they feel like they have not reaping the financial benefits that are usually associated with the word privilege. Exactly. That's, that's the argument referred to their images going around and around like a dog chasing his tail. Yeah, we get nowhere and I and I fell into that hole with it with the UT professor. I fell right into it. And he's a professor You think these guys

know better? Well, when you work in a liberal environment as a university, you have to really disprove the negative right? To survive. I mean, just talking about survival or, or just say you're right. That's that's the easy way out. Yeah, you're right, I guess right. I got white privilege. I'm a dick. You're right. So we're going back to Shelby Steele. And he's going to elaborate more on white guilt.

And in a sense, since the since the, since the 60s, that's pretty much what what has been what has happened is that minorities have have begun to sort of manipulate that stick. And so we can we call it in some circles to today, the race car, play the race card, what is the race card mean? Well, if you don't do what I'm what I want you to do, then you're going to be stigmatized as a racist. And the price you'll pay is you'll

lose your, your legitimacy. So White Guilt is powerful, is a powerful, powerful force, not because people feel guilty, but because people are stigmatized, and again, have to have to prove have to prove the negative all the time, and for living forever, under threat of being stigmatized. Wow, he nails it there. nails it. And there's a key word that he used in there.

Minorities? Yeah. Off the back of the silver rights. And we've seen this in the recent events with the trans and gay employment bill, or well, the Supreme Court case. Yes, yes. We, we kicked the door open or, you know, black people aid us kicked the door open for silver rights. We're are allowed to open the door, how you want to look at it? Um, what were the last the benefit from it? Is I everybody else like Oh, thank you. Thank you. You're saying?

Let me hold the door. Hey, thanks for holding the door open black people, right? Everybody? Yeah, you're right. You know, um, as you see, cops, I haven't seen a single cop. Shoot a trans person. I'm not saying it doesn't happen. I'm just saying what they show us on the news is always a black male being shot. Yeah, but Black Lives Matter has pivoted or evolved or whatever you want to use to global warming. We, as we heard in the previous clips on previous show of global warming,

intersectionality it's like what? I thought we were talking about us and they do this same swish the sleight of hand trick. It's like, oh, yeah, black man, you know, goes get sprayed down by that water hoses and getting bitten by dogs. And then we'll take that card, cross out race on it, and write in gender or right so you're describing, you're describing the Democratic Party right now at the moment Democrat party seems to be doing a lot of this.

Yes. Yes. And that's why you know what, it's only one word for it. It's disgusting. And I'm gonna tell people like this, this is my view on it. White Guilt is disgusting to me. If you want to atone for something, a town for you know, if you feel like you need to do something to help out, you know, or you have something to contribute to somebody you feel you've done wrong, that's fine. But when you pander to me, I don't care who you are. When you pander to me. I find that disingenuous. This

is just me personally speaking. It makes me look at you a certain kind of way. Like why are you doing that? I mean, like, what what are your real thoughts? I mean, like, why are you and it goes in one of the clips you played on the NA show? When they were like, oh, yeah, we got to take out 30 legals or not documented immigrants, because Who's Who's gonna clean our toilets? It's like what? Yeah, you know, so or the pandering to me, is like, we have to do this for black people

because they can't do it for themselves. Right. I find that very disingenuous. I'm not saying there's good people out here with good causes that are genuinely skin in the game but when you do this thing with just lip service and posting hashtags, and don't you know, it's just like, oh, you putting on this badge? It's just I find it very disgusting because what do you think of me to make you do that? That's just my personal Be honest with me. Be honest. Say you need to do issue you

asked me to do that? Are you do you know? Are you saying I'm less than I've grown up with our shatter? If you'd be honest with me, well, I don't think anyone likes to be pander to, if you're honest about it. All they do, though, and we're going to see later in the show, oh, they do. So getting back to white guilt 3.2 just leads to the next phenomenon that is a feature of

white guilt. And that's dissociation. The only way to get away from the stigma of being a racist is to find some way to dissociate oneself from the stigma from the image that you were, that you are a racist that you did you did you that you are like, the whites of old that you still secretly are a white supremacist, that you still secretly believe in this, that your heart is that you may be smiling, but your heart is

still committed to racism. And so, again, whites walking around under this sort of cloud of suspicion, then have to find ways to, to dissociate themselves from that. I think the great the first great example of dissociation in American life, was President Johnson's Great Society. Why all

of a sudden, in 1965? Do you do you just say, well, we're going to spend billions and billions of dollars, we're going to create all kinds of social programs, and we're going to, we're going to dump all this money, and we're going to end poverty in our time. You create all these all these programs, almost all of which, which failed. Certainly, they did not eradicate poverty, they did not bring about racial equality.

They did virtually nothing. But they did dissociate the American society and the American government, from the stigma of racism. Yes, the Great Society. This world money at the problem Medicare and Medicaid, there was lots of stuff that came out of that. Yes, affirmative action was one of them. But it was not a lot of thought put into it, it was just throw money at the problem with that, make it go away with my mom Association.

That is the American way. I mean, I have to say, our culture as Americans is we do throw money at the problem thinking that'll fix it. But do you really want to fix the problem? And I'm going to bring up example to you homelessness, this is something near and dear to your heart? Yes. Do people really want to make fix the homeless problem? Or do they make one and not see the homeless? My experience is, because well, and this is I think this is

probably what triggered this debate a while ago. Because of a it's another version of guilt. We will call it systemic issues, whether it's racism or, or institutional inequality, or whatever words you want to put towards it. And I'm just talking about my own experience here in Austin, Texas, a blue.in, the red state, very liberal. And that may or may not have been to do with I think it does. And it's, I'm so guilty about what the system has done. These people don't have what I have. I

want to fix it. They don't have a house, my house. That's the thinking. So it's not about not even interested, really not even interested in how these people became homeless, or what the real issues are. And, yeah, not in my backyard. I mean, I was talking to Alan Graham, the founder of community, first village here in Austin. And he said, if I if I had, if I had $1, for every person that said to me, this is so great, what you're doing, but could you do it over there? He said, I'd be a

rich man. And so yes, it's it's not actually it's a shortcut. And I think that I have to be honest with you. I think that's part of the American culture, which is changeable. And it's not everybody, I'm generalizing, but hey, you know, well, if I can just pay a little more in taxes, and it'll go away, because my dear leader said it would, in this case, I'm talking about the mayor or the governor, then that's, that's the level I want to go to. And that's great. It's easy for me to talk with my

pocketbook. That's it's become a way to fix all even though as you and I both know, it rarely does. For two reasons, one, that people are interested in the homeless and I'm not saying all but your general average person. No one gave second thought to homeless people and today start showing up on there. block. That's right. As long as long as there were under the bridge, on the highway or wherever else out

of sight out of mind, you gave no thought to correct. So one your action is out of the wrong motive is to make the problem go away, not solve the problem. And then to you don't want you have to take action. You don't want to understand the problem and create a solution to the problem. What you want to do is here this is what's convenient for me. Yeah, throw money at it. Throw a hashtag at it. Let me like this. Let me retweet this not feel good about it. Do something, you know. Yeah. If

you if you don't do that, don't say nothing at all. Yeah, I mean, it's worse. I mean, because what you do is you make a problem seem like it's being addressed when it's really not. And just just to add to that, let's move away from homeless in a moment. But right now in Austin has got so bad because what what Austin did the city council's they said, Okay, you can camp sit, lie anywhere you want, except City Hall. Of course, that would be crazy. And that brought the problem right

to people's doorsteps. And then they freaked out. And now the conversation is not about it's not even about homelessness anymore. It's about how do we get them off the streets? How do we get them off the streets? It's sick, it's sick. And that's what we did with the Great Society with LBJ majors threw money at the problem. But let's listen to the triumphs and tragedies of it $20 trillion. What would you do with all that money? You could

pay off the national debt? You could spend a million dollars a day for 2000 years and still have trillions left. But could you in poverty in America, that was one of the goals of the Great Society, President Lyndon Johnson's ambitious plan to transform the lives of Americans. The Great Society is 50 years old. It's been a long historic journey. But are we at

the end of the road. We'll start by traveling back to 1964 when America's prosperity and potential seemed limitless, but America had troubling age old problems, like legal discrimination, and abject poverty that could no longer be tolerated in the increasingly prosperous land of the free. So in May of 1964, President Johnson made a big announcement. The Great Society rests on abundance and liberty for all.

It demands an end to poverty, and racial injustice. To which we're totally committed in our time, LBJ decided that the government with its vast power and the might of the National Treasury would steer us towards a better place. The challenge of the next half century is whether we have the wisdom to use that wealth, to enrich and elevate our national life and to advance the quality of our American civilization.

Johnson's plan into the south Jim Crow laws, no more whites, only lunch counters, colored water fountains, and sitting at the back of the bus. landmark legislation like the Civil Rights Act of 1964, and the 1965 Voting Rights Act were tremendous achievements that did away with legalized racial

discrimination. Today, we stand closer to being the colorblind society that Johnson envisions but we're still trying to level the playing field with affirmative action policies that themselves aren't colorblind. Big Voice to talk about colorblind is we're a colorblind society, which you can say that's racist to say these things. But why would we want to be a colorblind society? That's a very, it's not a great question. It's a very good question. I don't want to be colorblind.

I agree. Well, let me ask you this question. If you're colorblind, what do you see in gray, or black and white raised? Brands? Makes the wood black and white? That's right. Yeah, exactly. That's how they're gonna bring about the colorblind society. We spoke about this before. It's like, hey, this makes them all up, get rid of get rid of cultures. Get rid you know, that's that's the solution. But it's, like I say, I find it troubling that people just want they don't want to address the

problem. If you don't want to address it, don't address it. But there's hope. There's always hope. Oh, I'm sitting up straight. All right. I'm ready for my orders. For all the people out there that are riddled with white guilt. There's kits where you Really? Yes there are subscription boxes for everything these days between men's wear makeup, dog toys, and now to women are hoping a box

delivered once a month can alleviate white guilt. But as Evan McMorris Santoro discovered, it won't come cheap Barry element is a rabbi and professor of Jewish Studies who lives in Park Slope Brooklyn. Bears holiday gift hall this year include something for herself, the safety pin box, a new monthly subscription service designed to wake up white people to the realities of being black in America. plans start at $25 and go all the way up to 100 a month.

Okay. Wait a minute. What what is safety pin? What is what is going on? Where's this from? What's it? What is this? This is vice. Oh, of course vice the virtue signaling SJW advertising agency and it is real white guilt kids. All right. I'm listening. White guilt kids to are you getting that feeling of like unboxing that exciting feeling of like a gift.

It's not so much as a gift. But it's kind of exciting that it's, I feel like I'm getting ready to learn like I don't know Mission Impossible, but my job is supposed to be the safety pin is the Make America Great Again hat for white people who want to show the world they didn't vote for Trump. After an election that progression is believed hinged on racism. The safety pin is meant to display that the wearer is a safe white person. The trend quickly became

commercialized. Now you can find designer safety pins online for over $300 organizers, Marissa Johnson and Leslie Mack they can use all this white guilt for good and capitalize on it at the same time. Wow. This is Ultimate virtue signaling with a safety pin. Nice. It's not just a safety pin. It's a whole kit monthly kit. Monthly month. So you can get monthly. Oh, it's my monthly reminder. Yeah. This is this serious? Is this really this is as a heart attack.

This is not like National Lampoon or the onion, HBO vice brother. Okay, it's three. It's an agreed to safety pin box. The plan is to make some profit, while also giving grants to black women activists. I went to Grand Rapids to watch the first set of boxes get packed in Leslie's house. That's a good idea. That is actually a really good idea.

This is sort of the epicenter of white guilt is the white middle aged mom who voted for Hillary but saw Trump win on the back of the white women vote Yeah, that's where the money that's that's where that's where the need is. I wouldn't say the money but it is whether you're a business first. Yeah, that's where the cash is. Right? That's where the money is. Well, the cash is in all the white people's wallets. So I'm not discriminate. I'm not discriminating about about whose

wallet. Exactly yeah, but I will say that that's that's where the need exists. That's where the desire is. I told you it's the American way. Fix it with money. It's this is disgusting. Now, when you watch this, after you crack up laughing, how do you really feel about it? I feel sad for the people buying the box. And I feel mad at the people creating the bots because what it does is trivialize. But

this is the social justice warrior way. The people that we see and we saw this on the show many a time they're able to monetize their movement for personal gain. So yeah, but I'll feel sorry. Obviously, this woman's dealing with their boss, this boss is dealing with something to seek out to seek out a way to not identify. Let's just say what is Trump derangement syndrome? Yeah, yes, it's, it's okay. So people have been trained, I'll put it that way that Trump won the election. Well, there's many

reasons he won. We know the Russians. We know that, you know, there's many different things that are of course true. But above all, it was racism. So now the only way to combat Trump is to combat racism somehow and people are going along with it. I mean, it's very effective. The triggers that they're putting into this into the marketing of this idea. And look at the

target. They're going after women who voted for Hillary but saw other white women who voted for Hillary but saw other white women voting for Trump. And I think in the clip before they said, Oh, older white women. Yeah middle aged or older, yes, middle a middle age. So that put you know, but they a lot of these people grew up like me at the beginnings of the silver rights like me absolutely all the work all the work we put into these, it's now back again in a box. All the work that's

been put in Mo is now fixable in a box of safety pins. Yes, kits for sure what's in the box. Oh, verifies lesson plans and tasks to complete. Some tasks are simple, like give Black people higher tips. Others are harder. This method safety pin box, we are focused on learning about and practicing radical compassion. It's nice as a part of combating whites in prisons, white supremacy, you do three things every week one is

directed towards this. In this case, black elderly one is directed towards the over incarcerated and this one's media this week, I take a look at the media I consume on a regular basis and evaluate it for bias and worthiness to it wouldn't be them sitting here in your house in Park Slope. And I'm wondering if these boxes are going to end up like you know how New Yorkers get stuck at people's houses? Like, I'm sure there's some New Yorkers in this house somewhere? Yes, there

are we read them however we read them. No, that's a very good point. And if I have to admit that at that, also, I thought about that. So there's an aspect of this box. It's kind of like, this is inviting. This is the black woman you invite into your house every month. Yeah, certain aspects of this way I really thought of it is that it embarrasses me honestly that I just don't have a world where I am. Have I encounter naturally. People of color.

A bit. I'll bet you she just doesn't see him. It's worse. But who are you? virtue signaling to? If you don't encounter black people to have to wear a safety pin? Yeah, just white people. Now you see, and that goes back to the cupcake thing. The German donut. Well, we didn't we didn't explain that yet. No. Okay, I sent out a tweet. It had a chocolate doughnut. It was a German Sign. And a woman put in star star star star donut. And it's in Germany. Right? I sent it to Adam says, What does

this mean? Because I did this. And I was I was almost got Yes, because I've seen a fib star. Right. And it actually said it was actually a train conductor. I think they called it a train conductor or something. But what I was able to explain is historically, in Germany, they have a couple of treats that the one that I'm most familiar with, is called a naked zoom, which is a negro kiss. And it's like a

big black thing filled with a creamy middle. Now of course, you can debate whether that's racist or not, but in German, en E G, E R ne her is not derogatory, where Srivatsa and you've heard this probably from Yiddish or Jewish that's very derogatory. So if a German says SHVARTS, that's racist if you say nature, it's it's not appropriate probably anymore for for this entry, but it's been around for a long, long time.

And if you looked at the she just had the N word, but in with with four stars are not the reason why that is. If I read it with five stars, that's right. So just to show you I'm not even above this, why don't do social media for one and I only do it for the benefit of promoting the show. But to what else is subjecting my are subjecting myself to social media for you guys? Yes. But I was

almost triggered. It's easy. It's easy. It's easy. And we so just to set the picture up, you have this little chocolate man, cupcake face, with little pink lips, not overly large lips for the people thinking black face, but she made allusions to black face. Yeah, it just looks like a little chocolate cupcake with two eyes and brown hair and chocolate. I mean, it was brown hair were sprinkles. But what triggered me was I read five

stars, not in five stars, not four stars. And then I was like, is that what the the sign says on the cupcake because I had a little title to the cupcake where they end up being tranq. And what that does just go to show you can be triggered it's easy for sure. But But who does the virtue signaling Who does this retweeting of this? Most of the time is is not, it's not black people to go around and do a white guilt, or white average

everyday black people, white people. All right, so there's one more clip catspaw. So what is it about white people that, that they also require you to give them a box of things to do? Why? Why are you the check? Yeah, I mean, you could just write the check, I think for us when it's about actually providing a service that people are asking for. So there's a market. And that's really when we talk about it being a business. It's a business model, because there's,

there's a need. And I say all the time, like, had white people got their shit together and actually provided this for themselves. We wouldn't have a business model right now. But they haven't. So here we are providing the service for them. The most radical politics or sometimes the simplest ones, it's 18 boxes message to guilty whites. If you want to do something, put money in a black woman's pocket. And I just would say, you know, we never pretended to be

anything but radical black women. And so we're going to do some radical shit. We'll see what happens. Assaulting man, you or me? Both. So yeah, ain't got to go back to the conversation you had about on your best behavior. Don't ask for anything. So this goes totally against what ordinary everyday black people were taught. Growing up. You don't never seem like you need something. Right. So if someone then looks at you and says, Well, you're

black seems like you need something. Hey, let me put some money in your pocket black lady. That must be just incredibly insulting. I will be highly insulted. But the fact that she building a business model off of this is just, oh, I got a memo to self cancel HB Oh, okay. All right. Crazy. I'm feeling triggered right now, please. Okay, what more do you want? Sorry. Why? Why would you do that? You know, how bad that is? For the people. And I want to make this clear.

There's people out here that's doing legit work on the ground. Trying to bring about and correct the problems of have they? Yeah, the problems of they? What, when people see this, he is totally destabilizes and deflates what they're trying to do. The actual legit people out there. Yeah, of course. And these people are not fighting the real issue. They're not fighting the real white supremacy, the real ruling class, the One World Government,

they're, they're fighting each other over stupidity. They're mimicking it. Even better. Yes, you're right. So where would they learn something like this from? Well, like you're dangerous. But the Civil Rights establishment, which has rigidify gotten worse. Jesse Jackson used to be when back in the the early 70s. I used to go to his operation push in

Chicago. And he was talking about turning the TV off at home and, and keeping the family together and assisting on homework at all and reading and had had a book rental program and all that he was great. He says none of that now. And he gets so much money and attention from manipulating white guilt. And he's so good at it. I mean, he's is it's just he's a virtuoso of it. He has gotten billions of dollars from American corporations, who he threatens to stigmatize if they

don't pay up. And when you rewarding somebody with billions of dollars, it's hard to break that habit. So, you know, he's a good example of where white guilt really is a dangerous thing. Yeah, yes. And this is a business model carried on by Reverend Al Sharpton and who was the new guy behind on the we were talking about in the show called leprosy. Right, McKesson? Yeah. And I'm Shaun King. Yes. Well, DeRay. Now there was someone else. It was Shaun King there we're fighting over. Right, right.

Turf beef, right. This is now Dvorak, and I've called this out on no agenda many times going back, you know, a decade that this is what this guy is doing. But never really we always looked at it from the despicable enrichment that he's doing for himself, and probably just stayed away from the race argument. But of course, it's the Here's exactly what what it is it's abusing racial history for his own good and and honestly, man, I see a lot of

black people fawning over, over both these reverence. And that to me is disgusting. Kiwa reverend? Yeah, yes, yes, yes. Reverend Michael Eric Dyson, he's another one. When you get into that. Who? Who was it? Because I know that we we've either talked about it or you sent me something I read about it someone it was somewhere as long as that we should get the get the reverence ah. Ah, was that Margaret Sanger? Aha. That's right, the founder of Planned Parenthood and the American

eugenics society. Not in that order. Yes. That the one and only she's saying another white person of the definitely the white supremacy I'm sure that she was a part of that. Yes. And Planned Parenthood itself is part of that system. I mean, she's to be I mean, so. And that's what the weird what they call a weird Flex is you got liberals on the same side of these organizations that are historically bad for the people

that you claim to represent. So it's like, it sends your mind into these crazy like, a brain freeze, a brain freeze. You can't short you can't brush short, short circuit. Exactly. And when you talk to people, it's like, don't you see this? And we have, I might have links and YouTube videos and copies of quotes and it's like, I don't get it. And then they tell you I had I have to vote I can't not vote. Right? I can't. Anyhow, our I can't you don't have option. Because one is a solid

one as black people you can't not vote. And then two, you can't vote Republican so you don't have a choice. So then you just live with this. And then you have people speaking on your behalf gaining the benefits and resources as we've seen with the people in this white kid kit guilt, a white guilt kids and then learn from the behavior from the Jesse Jackson's of the world. And then the money never reaches us. And we're like,

what the hell and the just stopping for a second. And I'll Sharpton is more in the picture now with this business model than Jesse Jackson. The fawning and the authority assigned to this this nincompoop this this seriously illiterate man he cannot speak a single word properly. is unbelievable. I see it. I've always had what why? Why up and of course, I was in New York with the Toronto Brawley case. You know, when Al Sharpton was five times the Al Sharpton he is now in size. It

was the whole thing. His whole career has been baffling to me. And the media part of the we'll call it the the white supremacy establishment. Because it is in lockstep. It's disturbing. It's always been disturbing to me. But it's not baffling to me because of one word, activation. If you can activate the vote, that's all that matters, to

activate the streets, and that's what he meant. He was actually more successful than Jesse Jackson because Jesse Jackson actually did come up somewhat through the Civil Rights Movement, where Al Sharpton he was more of like a kind of Street guy. Yeah, it's a hood law. Right? He was FBI informant. He's all kinds of crazy this guy's no good He's a gangster. Right but he can activate the streets. And MSNBC saw that he had a skill set that they could they could exploit and he and he

used it. But getting back to the white guilt ridden people. I know the men and the women are feeling left out. I mean, men are feeling left out. Because we have white guilt kits for women. And for men we are we have something for you. It's very rare to be a black femme whipping a white man My name is mistress velvet. I've been a dominatrix for four years and a goddess my whole life the core of my domination style is

that I forced slaves to read Black from this theory. My very first Slave I had ended up being like you are such a nice kind and smart person but you will Ever Vietnam, and that like, really upset me and I was like, No, I don't want any white man telling me that there's something I can't do. And so that kind of pushed me to like do a lot of research around BDSM and kind of cultivate myself as a DOM and what that meant for me. Is this also from HBO, Where's this coming from? Buzzfeed.

So let me get this straight. So it's black women who dominate BDSM with I guess, bondage and, and whips, etc, and, and domination, white men because they need that and that they it makes them feel good. Not only that, but she makes them read black feminist books. He was that part.

Ah, now I know what they say by making America great again. Pay to how it all started in terms of me kind of like now building a curriculum of black feminist theory for slaves was one slave came into our sessions with a lot of emotional baggage and lots of white guilt. And so I just turned to the people I trust, I turned to Patricia Hill, Collins and Audrey Lorde. And was like, these are some texts and readings that have been really powerful for me and shaped my thinking around

things. Why don't you try reading Audrey Lorde. And see like, how it makes you feel. And while you're at it write me like 1000 words, I couldn't even look at an essay. If you could pull it up on your phone. Could you bring me my phone, I will probably read this last paragraph of this essay that I got yesterday. I am very aware of the real capacity and potential of black women. Not only physical, but intellectual

and emotional. It is my obligation to pass this knowledge to as many people as possible, making the word of mistress velvet a fact and rule among Latin males to the knowledge passing spreading the knowledge of mistress velvet across the world. Kind of funny. Nice touch to bring in the Latinos. Nice touch. Very nice touch. So man, do you realize what you're hearing Adam? I'm hearing some crazy shit is what I'm hearing right here. This is what this is guilt gone bad man. This

is very low. Go away. This is keeping it real goes wrong. Exactly. Holy crap. What we're hearing is a white man is paying a white a black woman. So as a form of power structure in itself. Yeah. To pretend that she has power over him to grid him of his guilt. Which is the catch all, which he's paying for which really makes the circle completely round and changes nothing. Which actually says he's in power. Yes. Oh, man. That's just I know, I know, a sec sales. But just for that purpose of that. I

had to add the clip in the show. Because he's like, What? How Don't you realize he's paying you? Yeah, to play alone in the capacity that he wants you to play along to make to make him feel good for 30 minutes or an hour or whatever he's paying for. And then go on. Homework last Yeah. We laugh but it's so sad. Sad if he had lab to keep them crying. Yeah. Oh, they pay three. Yes, please. I need more of this. What mistress helped me see with the black feminist theory and readings was

how much deeper? Everything goes and how much deeper and how much more I owe. Being a white man and benefiting from this system of privilege and oppression. I definitely fetishized mistress. At first. I've done a lot of work to really try to unpack that and unlearn. The fetishization for those that have like a weird fetish of like blackness and black women. They're gonna really eat that up. And so I kind of have this like, weird dual relationship with my

fetishization where I use it to get clients. But then I want to process through it with them as well. I remember one time I went to a play party, and I opened the door and this white person

says, Hey, you want to be my slave? I'm just like, immediately blown away about like, the depth of that word and their inability to like recognize, like how, like the weight of saying that to a black person, when in the past has been used white by white people to talk about black people, and enslaved Africans, and now I'm being able to really like appropriate that word and call my white men, slaves. And that

feels really powerful in that way. My slaves pay my rent, they helped me pay my student loans back, you know, they're like funding my life. I don't want to undermine the fact that black people in the US and in Africa are owed a significant amount of reparations, but I find myself trying to get some of that with my clients. Okay, reparations, it was waiting for it. And there it is. She invokes it and it's discussed, like I said, completely disgusting. Oh, I'm just going to leave that there.

I'm gonna need a shower. Yeah, that's crazy. This is your way gay rapper. Right? Yeah. Oh, I want the I wanted to say, This is why we need reparations. And the reason why I say this is why I'm a big supporter of reparations, because it wipes the slate clean. After this point, no more guilt. No more,

you know, it's like a atonement. It's a it's a cleanser. That way, from our side, we can say, you know, we've been an eight hour speaker for eight hours, we've been compensated anybody else, that they have to deal with America in their in their capacity, or however they want to deal with it. And, and white people won't have to feel any more guilt for the past sins of the foreigner ears. So about first for people who are new to the show a DOS

American descendant of slavery. So there's a differentiator in, yes. And that's important in this. But of course, that doesn't solve the actual problem. And because as we have unfolded here, white supremacy is a one world global government that continues to rule and will continue to use race to divide and conquer, although it may provide for a temporary cleansing such as the black mistress, whipping the white

slave. It won't actually fix anything other than I think it'd be to me, it sounds like it may be a 50 year fix or, or a five month fix? I don't know. But it doesn't actually solve the problem of white supremacy. No, no, no, you can't eat No, I will solve that problem. I'm talking about the animosity, or the that negative guilt, but that's really interesting. Okay, so it that's why I think that's

where Marianne Williamson was coming from. It's not only she say it that way, you just said it is a sentence, it was really simple. Right? It's atonement is what it is. So, this is like, are you $1,000 Once I pay you, the guilt is gone. But then it's like, I mean, I'm, I hear where you're coming from. But we just went through this whole thing where that's the dumb American ways, oh, let me just pay some money and it'll be rid of it. What you're not? Well,

there's not much as that's the thing about it. It has to be capital. But it has to be done in a thoughtful way. And the reason why I know we're probably gonna go long, but this is a very neat conversation. Look at a foreigner action. So and one of the clips I didn't use Shelby Steele, he was saying Ivy League school the 8% of the each class open for minorities, black minorities, right? If you're you have poor schools in your community, you're not going to be able to fill up that 8% with

adequate candidates right? So then you have to lower their standards which makes it even makes the problem worse because then you feel like a token quote unquote token and you feel a guilt it's another kind of guilt black people feel like I'm only

here because I was right because yeah, right. So what I'm saying is you take that money you fix the schools at the elementary level, you actually put that capital of work where you have enough candidates that you feel that 8% slot spot with actual adequate candidates that's the problem No, but see when you throw money at the problem with the great society people are saying one thing would it didn't fix nothing? It didn't fix anything it I'm double negative I just didn't fix anything um

it well worse worse. Affirmative Action was hijacked. That's a whole nother whole nother show but it's true affirmative action was high. Very true. Yeah. By everything that that we held the door open while everybody else went in. Yeah, is Yeah. So okay. I don't want to dwell on too long on this. But I think we've talked about reparations before. In fact, that's part of how we met is me trying to understand what was

going on in Congress with a das and reparations. And, you know, which hasn't really moved much further since we started talking about it. And I know, so you're for reparations, and it has to be capital, but you can't trust any government to put the capital to good work. In fact, that's the weak part of Marianne Williamson's argument, Hey, she's like, all we'll put a panel together and the panel will decide where it goes. And you know, that's when my eyes roll back in my head like, okay,

that's, that's a bonanza that won't do any good. And so I think that's, I think that's why you're saying, Oh, it should just be a check, a big check, every a DOS person gets a check, and then then we're done. Even Steven, clean slate. Well, I'm not saying only a check, oh, there will have to be some money involved of scholarships, to private schools on the elementary level, where, you know, you have to build in, like I said, you have to build that ground floor. It's gonna

have to be a generation where you build that ground floor. You just can't say, oh, yeah, we're gonna open up I believe, 8% of the spots and not build a community from the bottom up. This is the whole Boulay town, the 10 things like oh, yeah, well, that 10% In two, I believe schools, and then they'll do right by the by the bottom bottom. Cool. That doesn't work. Who in your mind, in the political landscape has the right idea? In your mind for reparations? Who is representing your thinking? I

haven't heard any button. That's what I was afraid of. No. No, it's not a soundbite. It's not me, it's gonna take actual work. Because either you have two schools of thought, we need government programs and no check, or just cut the check only. And neither one and a half a hybrid system of both of those things to solve the problem, but I mean, we'll talk about that on

another day. Because, like I said, it's just, it's so big of a problem that well, let's just go back to how we started on this, which is the idea that if we just do something, let's just call it this if we do something big enough. What I'm hearing you black American mo saying to white American Adam is if we just make it big enough and significant or significant enough, maybe that's the right word. Then Black people would say white people, you're off the hook.

Is not black people are saying you're on the hook is these Grifters. What we're trying to do is eliminate the Grifters. Well see they're speaking on our behalf right, the Jesse Jackson's the so what black deals stand? So you're the only guy I don't know. You're one of the few I know but you're the only guy I know is saying Jesse Jackson is a grifter. Al Sharpton is a grifter. There's not a lot of people standing up saying that Mo. I say

actually, Jesse Jackson was ran out of Ferguson. You know, the news is don't tell you this. Thank you. Thank you. So, okay. So I feel very good now. Because I feel like I am contributing with a podcast. And we're not immune. We're contributing something by opening the dialogue and just being able to talk about it like Americans, which is to me quite easy. But the warning is these people these eight holes over here, those are the ones you got to

look out for you got to be careful of. And yeah, cuz they're you they're playing off each other. They're playing. You're speaking on my behalf to use an atom, right kick kicking and chipping, chipping. Right and then it never comes back to me and then we're like, what the hell gotcha, you know, um, so if you say, we get together have a conversation like I look, we're going to do ABC. It takes the power away from those the middle the middle traders.

And there's a lot of them. There's a lot of the MO there's a lot trading on this a lot in entertainment, a lot of very influential people. And they and they're all part of the problem. And that's why I call them disgusting. I mean, that's the word for the day. They're disguised disgusting, because so I want to end on a high note. I know we got you know, we're not done yet. Are we? I'm having a good time. Okay, now, let's okay. Even the kids aren't safe.

Especially the kids aren't safe. What are you talking right there the future? The Greater we end tonight with a poem written and performed by an Atlanta teenager this past spring, but it's been getting new attention from millions after the violence that shook America last week. Here's Mark Strassman. My poem is titled white boy and privilege. White Boy privilege was an entry in a school poetry contest.

To be honest, I'm scared of what it would be like if I wasn't on the top rung if the tables were turned, and I didn't have my whiteboard privilege safety blanket to protect me. Royce man's message was a plea from a 14 year old white male going into a private school in Atlanta. Let everyone share his privileges. I love it. Because when I see a police officer, I see someone who's on my

side. I'm just trying to be truthful, about like, how I wouldn't trade places with somebody and that I think a lot of people sometimes are such a thought about that racial division seared America last week, after Minnesota, Baton Rouge and Dallas man's poem struck a nerve online. Many loved it. Others attacked him. More than 8 million people have seen it. Everyone should have the privileges. They should be writing. Everyone's story should be reading. So all they have to

do is get it read. Again, the change can be scary, but equality shouldn't be. I'm not asking anybody to give up their lives to fight for equality. I have other dreams too. I'm just asking you to try be an ally do your share. When you see something that you think is wrong. There's discrimination speak up, it's time to let go of that fear. It's time to take that ladder and turn it into a bridge. Also won that poetry contest. Mark Strassman, CBS News, Atlanta.

Child abuse, child abuse out you took it took the words right out of my mouth. This kid I'm not going to harp on this kid because it would only be further to child abuse. But come on. Yeah. Doesn't. Doesn't that make you feel like despair? If that's what's going on? That's the future. That's that's what's being created? It does to me. Yeah. I don't know how you know what? Well, he understand how the world really works. And you could tell he does it and what

we're doing is condoning highlighting children. And not only him, I'm just gonna make this a bigger issue of they don't understand how the world works. And they will say if you want everybody to have privilege, then it's not privilege right? Now what we should want is, Oh, stop, Oh, stop, shoot. Okay, it just hit me. If we want everyone to have privilege, there's no privilege. You know what that's

called Mo, socialist, socialism. It's what we're moving towards and that and so this white guilt is a huge driver of the young people being without knowing exactly what it is. I've lived in socialist countries. There's, there's good there's a lot of not so good or stuff I don't like. But for sure. Everyone becomes equal. And then everyone is it really pulls everybody down. Doesn't elevate nothing. Yeah. Nothing. Yes, right.

You're happy. You're happy. You're 200 200 square foot apartment with your two pair of Lululemon underwear, Lulu, lemon socks, and your bunk beds and your bunk bed? Your bunk bed? That's what they're preparing for it. But it's like, you have to trick them in their mind. But as we all know what any communist or socialist regime there's always a ruling class. Yeah. Which goes back to the original statement of the elite or empire. It's just a different kind of empire. Yes. There you

have it. Wow. I, oh, I loved this is not quite what I expected. I didn't know exactly what to expect from this show. I really liked where we took this. And I really like that from the outset. And this is the basis of the show. We both agree. There's a ruling class there's personified by certain people, and they are the supremacy and they're most likely all white. So we can say supremacy with certainty. And it's the enemy of all mankind.

They are the enemy of justice. Remember that the opposition to this is justice. Give me a fair shot. Call the game fair the sports and analogy and let me compete. That's all we're asking for. That's all we're asking for. Um, but so we're wrapping up here, and I want to end the show on a joke if you don't mind. Just so although there's been some pretty funny shit going on in the show. Don't know if anything could top the white guilt kit on actual joke. Okay. Number 30.

Oh, sorry. Not not saying why people aren't evil either, because I know where you got the evil in me. I do. I guess I can feel it. That's why I try to suppress it. I tried to dress casual, you know, I mean, I'm serious, man. I tried a suit on the other day, I felt that coming up like Fuck, man, I want to take over some shit, right? I start telling people what to do.

I'm gonna go blue lake laying on my secretary like those movies when they make black and white people get along, and even those ones seem ridiculous, you know, because it always has to be like some sort of lesson. And those movies just like, you know, I never looked at it that way. This like, that never happens. You know? Anytime I've ever hung out with a black dude, at no point during the evening is he like tried to like Teach me how to dance. In a racial Footloose moment, they

always. And I never go to his neighborhood and like trying to like save a school, you know? How many times are they gonna make that movie? You know, that movie? The white person goes into the projects. They just have to make a difference. You know, if they just made the move, you can what that was Hillary Swank. It's like, did you even need to go see it? It's like, Let me guess she shows up and they don't accept her. Right. And she goes home, she cries to her feminine boyfriend

is wearing sweatpants. And he's cooking something for some reason, right? And he convinces her and convinces her to give it one more chance right? Since she goes back down there, she starts drawing out their inner beauty next scene. Oh, they put a do rag on and she starts fucking dancing. And it's embarrassing. For all races involved for the love of God. Stop making that fucking movie. Birdman, he's fantastic. There's a number of really good

comedians who are doing some great stuff now. He's definitely one. That's that's why we got to have honesty. Yeah, it's the funniest part. Exactly. And there's none of raise attention. Breathe attention to what's really going on. So yeah. Oh, wow. This is this has been really good. I've thoroughly enjoyed doing this with you. And I think that this is just the beginning of the show, really, of the stuff that

we can get into. And I hope that everyone who has been listening understands that we have a common and a common enemy in this. And they're not always that visible. But definitely we have a common enemy and they have very powerful tools. Tools such as television tools, such as well the this is the beauty of the internet is it is being used for great evil currently, but there's a lot of great good and if anyone just invest a little bit of time and little bit of effort, little bit of

energy, you too can do what we're doing. It's not all that hard. You just have to want to do it and just be fucking honest for change. I gotta go order my white guilt kid here. Thank you so much for putting this together. Mo I really enjoy it as you know. Are you welcome. And as I always say, pay attention to everything. And the truth will reveal itself. And this is a value for value podcast. It's very simple. You just listen to two hours of two guys go on going at it. If you

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