07: Mo Money Mo Problems

Hey Moe Factz with Adam curry for September 16 2019, episode number seven to American dudes talking it up. Moe how are you? I'm doing good how you know, Adam, I'm doing real good. You know, it's Monday once again, that means Moe Factz around these parts of Austin. Yes. Um, and as you know, the song goes more money, more problems. That's right. Yes, although I you know, being an old guy is like, I just keep hearing Diana Ross. I don't hear anything

else. You know. I saw her in the round when I was 15. That's, that's pretty amazing. And that's what this show is all about. It's perspective. You can hear the same thing and see it two different ways. Because when I hear that I hear that Notorious BIG more money, more problems digs. So. So speaking of which, more money, more problems we've spoken, the last show about families and people not in not wanting to have families that have difficulty that haven't families in these

times. Right. So as that show ended, beginning of the prop, maybe Tuesday, Wednesday, I got an interesting email from a friend. And the title of the article was this budget shows how $350,000 salary, I'm barely qualifies as middle class. Yes. I actually saw that a few days ago. And I thought to myself, No wonder I'm struggling. But this is if if you want to live in a city or just in general, I think in there, it was like cities such as New York City,

San Francisco, you know, the major hubs. But I think this speaks to last show while families. This article spoke about a family of four, two working parents making, you know, combined salary of $350,000, right? They at the end, if you lived up to it, this goes to the thing that we talked about, you know, having the house and the cars and yeah, picket fence and the trips to Disneyland.

Yes. It's what we all want. Right? If you live that today, at the end of the month, I believe you will have $121 cash flow. Oh, man, my vape budget is more than that. You pay for everything. So now who? Who did this? Who put this study together? Who was the genius? This was published on CNBC and num numbers according to the US Census Bureau. And this was all messy the website was well this is a you sent me a link from MSN but I think the maybe the British

give me yeah, yes. So it was written by Sean Lang Lang los Louis Lang. Lang, law, something like that. Yeah, language might be French here. So as we see more money, more problems, and that kind of explains, puts the button on what we talked about last show. So but as we see moving forward, and today's show, we're gonna talk about how money can more money can cause more problems. So how's that great. Twitter feed a lot going for it? I want to test it out.

To be very honest, I was in we were away this weekend. We were in Las Vegas. Went to see Bruno Mars. So I really haven't been looking too much at the great Twitter, but I'm keeping up Moe You know me I'm keeping up. Okay, so for those out there who don't have the you know, the privilege of having a great, great Black Twitter line. Oh, timeline, there was a beef. Black Lives Matter beef to be more specific. But sweet one Shaun King and one DeRay Mckesson?

Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes. Very long medium article that was written about this. Yes, there was a long medium, medium article written by DeRay Mckesson. And just as of this morning, there was a quote unquote, I hate this word, clap back. Wash our king with an even longer, medium article, and we're gonna get into that but let's start off with the background or

greetings and salutations. I'm Christopher Platt, reporting for your Black World News with an article from news one, Shaun King and D Ray McKesson once worked closely together, but had an epic falling out that played out on Twitter years ago. Like most social media feuds, it was hard to tell who was right or wrong, but people still took sides Since then, they've really mentioned each other until now, McKesson wrote a scathing and

long piece on King in a piece for medium. McKesson goes on and on about how he trusted King believed in his work, but then noticed dismissiveness and bad communication. He then implies King stole money from Justice together where McKesson was a board member at one point and said to date, it's not clear that Shawn filed the appropriate taxes for justice together, as there's no 990 Form available for public review from the IRS website. He also slammed Shawn kings fundraising report,

claiming it was not independent. McKesson also alleged that king did not raise millions and that he took credit for other people's work. He takes credit for 100% of all funds raised for any fundraiser, whose link he has ever posted online in an email blast or retweeted. McKesson also referenced the Clarissa Brooks incident, where King demanded an apology after she reportedly said that he stole or spent money that was raised for sin, Toya Brown, which King claimed he never

raised money for. McKesson cites a bunch of failed projects from King. Basically, McKesson believes King is a fraud. You know, you could put this on shortwave radio and it would sound really cool. News. So this is our this was a from the YouTube news, news one. And if you're asking who news one is that is sponsored by Radio One, which is founded by Miss Cathy Hughes. And that's going to be important later. But let's get in. So just a little background.

These two came up through the Black Lives Matter Ferguson event with the shooting of Michael Brown and that's how they became into public light. So from there D Ray has felt like he's been pushed to the side while Shaun King has no become like a you know a shooting star he I mean, he's he's like the the creme de la creme of woke ism was he was he one of the people who met with Hillary Clinton during the 2016 election. They had that kind of backstage meeting, if you recall,

which which one DeRay Mckesson or Shaun King. I'm not sure I know D Ray was there but I'm not sure. All right. And for people for people to know, Sean, I mean, D Ray was the bigger star starting out the blue vest. He know he was a really huge star. But let's go on to the second clip. Kings been defending his name for weeks after Rihanna announced she would honor the Morehouse man at an upcoming award ceremony. Social media went ham and demanded that she

reconsider. In response, King released a 72 page report of quote, Every single penny I've ever raised in quote, since Black Lives Matter began. The documents were compiled and authored in part by people like Tamika Mallory, co chair of the Women's March and co founder of Justice League NYC, and civil rights attorney Lee Merritt. The report focused on fundraisers

that King promote it through his social media accounts. And provided what King said was a full accounting of his financial relationship with real justice Pac and action pack, along with five years of his tax returns. Now hold on a second. You know, for every type of entity, if it's a PAC, if it's a nonprofit, there's forms you got to fill out for taxes that I think have to be published publicly unless there's some other entity that was in play here.

That is correct. And like you said, he led he put out a 72 page report stating how the how the money was spent, and even heard him brought up the Justice pack the real justice pack, so I did a little homework. Whenever I hear pack I hear money I start following the paper trail. So the real justice pack is funded by carry tuna and justice. Mas moszkowicz. No. Mo SPO. Mas VA Mackiewicz. Yes. Are you familiar with him?

No, I'm in fact this is this is the most names I've ever heard in this show who I have no clue about. So Dustin, Moscow, Moscow. I can't say it, Moscow for which is one of the founders of Facebook. almost $2 million into this real justice pack. So shocking is backed by Facebook money to the tune of 2 million dollars and I found it funny that the money is registered under carry tuna and not under there. They have a nonprofit that they could have put the

money under, but it was like an individual donor type thing. So I thought that was funny how they kind of like Tron, in my honest opinion amassed the money. You know, when you see Carrie tuna, that doesn't ring a bell, but when I start digging who she was, I found out who she married to. And then the connection with Facebook. So okay. It is Dustin, Dustin Moskovitz. Indeed, my brothers. Yeah, that's it. That's the guy. Okay, got it.

So, that just struck me as weird. I mean, you guys have a nonprofit they took the PAC with, with Bill Gates and Warren Buffett to spend all their money donate all their money in their lifetime. Yeah, this is the giving pledge that you will give away. At least I think it's half of your fortune in your lifetime, but the idea is to spend all of it. Right. But as you hear in this piece from the news, Warren, which is a product of Radio One, they're very friendly and

protective of Shaun King. They really didn't get into the Article of the accusation DeRay Mckesson made, it was more to the defense of Shaun King and that's going to be very important to remember this valve that away. Why? We'll see later on and you know, in my presentation, but let's go to clip three. In addition, King said the authors of the fundraising report had unlimited access to his and his family's checking accounts, savings accounts, credit cards, retirement

accounts and money management software. I've helped raise over 34 point 5 million for families, charities, causes and campaigns King tweeted Tuesday morning, a seven person expert review board inspected every penny, including the past five years of my tax

returns. There's 72 page report. In addition, the families of Nia Wilson Philando Castile, Terrence Crutcher and multiple other people killed in recent years vouched for King, the family of both them John, the man who was killed by Dallas police officer Amber Geiger a year ago this Friday had nothing but glowing words for King. We have had the pleasure of interacting with Shaun king in the months following Bolton's murder, John's family wrote, Sean has become more than

another voice for our family. He's become our friend. He's advocated for the John family spoke up for us, dried our tears and held our hands. We're grateful for his support, as are many other families who have met him. Well, what this tells me is don't mess with this guy because the dead are speaking on his behalf. Also, um, if you notice, it's one of those things where Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson, you call Shaun king, he gets the

money. And we're gonna see, I think later in on the presentation, we're gonna say he raised over like, maybe $30 million. Wow, on behalf of families and organizations. But before we move forward, you know, we always, as I always like to do we have to go backwards before we can go forward. So, Adam, I'm going to test your memory a little bit. Why? Why was what was the purpose of Black Lives Matter?

Who was it? Who was it set aside to protect your opinion? In my opinion, black lives matter was set up particularly to bring attention to police brutality against black people. Specifically, black males, correct? Because that's who the majority of the victims were. Yes, yeah. I would not have specified it as such. But yeah, yes, sure. And this has been the argument just I mean, from my perspective, I didn't want to, you know, put words into your

mouth. But the perspective were when I first saw Black Lives Matter trending on, on social media, it was kind of like they were using the plight of the black male being gunned down by police with your hands up. Um, you know, you know, to bring attention to that. But let's listen to I found a great interview with the three three creators of Black Lives Matters. Alicia got on Garza. Patrisse Cullors. And oppo tell me,

yep, and the name Patrice. I recognize, recognize, I think from a connection to Soros or something, right. You always get in the head there. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I knew something's becoming this is becoming a common thing with you? Yeah, um, we had a great sit down with TED talks, which is a you know, platform to get all that the oh wait woke agenda out there. And let's listen to the reason why they started Black Lives Matter. Why is Black Lives Matter important for the US right now.

And in the world. Black Lives Matter is our call to action. It is a tool to reimagine a world where black people are free to exist, free to live. It is a tool for our allies to show up differently for us. Whoa, that's not but I understood the movement to be. And I thank God for him because I didn't know I wasn't free to live resists. But God bless him. Feel free, feel free. Right. So

let's get into clip. Two of Miss Patrice Cole years, Black Lives Matter offers answers to the why offers a new vision for young black girls around the world that we deserve to be fought for. That we deserve to call on local governments to show up for us. Wow, this is not at all what the message was. I thought it was hands up don't shoot black, young black men, black men of color are being shot down in the street light animals. But obviously not. And you know what, I cannot receive

this coming. I am being ultra facetious. But hold on, let me ask let me ask your question. Was now this that you said the things from a TED talk was that at the founding, or was it later I mean, was that the original concept and I just want to get the timeline maybe that this is this is afterwards, this is a couple of years after you know, they got off the ground. Because as you've heard, Black Lives Matter started out as a hash tag and the name became a

organization. And then you know, became a vehicle. For what always these liberal super woke, I hate using that word repeatedly. But these movements happen, it's like black people causes is the stepping stone to get into bigger fundraising and taking bigger issues on. So also, if you really want to get in, you know, you start with the black people or you start with the black causes. And then you're gonna hear Miss Opal, tell me pivot to other causes.

We need this because the global reality is the black people are subject to all sorts of disparities. And most of our most challenging issues of our day, I think about issues like climate change, and how six of the 10 worst impacted nations by climate change are actually on the continent of Africa. Whoa, this is great. I wish I'd had this for no agenda. This is fantastic. Good. Okay. Climate change is killing black men in the neighborhoods.

Yes, obviously, climate only affects us. Sports specifically, but as you see is what they call mission creep. Yeah, it's a form of mission creep. You know, they get their foot in the door, people like, oh, that Black Lives Matter thing is pretty cool. They got there. Let's talk all these other things. And with it, you know, and then it becomes so diluted that it doesn't even address. The original concern was, which is the actual concern, black men being shot in the streets? Let's

not let's not poopoo that. But if the people that are receiving the funding and attention, go away from drawing attention to that problem. That's something you expect anybody else to do exactly. And we see this over and over and over again. And that's why people become so jaded to these movements, because we know how it's going to end up. I mean, as we say, on this show, hopefully, the past only repeats itself. This is just a new iteration of something that that we've seen

before. Well, let's listen to Miss automake speak some more. We also see disasters like Hurricane Matthew, which recently wreaked havoc in Many different nations, because the most damage to Haiti. Haiti is the poorest country in this hemisphere, and its inhabitants are black people. And what we're seeing in Haiti is that they were actually facing a number of

challenges that even preceded this hurricane. They were reeling from the earthquake, they were reeling from cholera that was brought in by UN peacekeepers, and still hasn't been eradicated. This is unconscionable. And this would not happen if this nation didn't have a population that was black. And we have to be real about that. Yes, because earthquakes only target black people. And hurricanes and hurricanes and Hades. This is Black Lives Matter. Haitian Black Lives Matter. This is great.

So let me ask you this. A couple of questions. And these are no agenda questions. One who kind of took charge after that earthquake happened in Haiti? Well, that would be the Clintons. Why no mention of the Clintons. And how they misappropriated billions of dollars. Yes. Ah, hey, they should be a top notch, top notch nation with the amount of money that was infused from the from the earthquake. Oh,

well, yeah. If the money was infused, I mean, what wound up happening is the Red Cross built about six homes and the Clintons built a hotel and they got the Bill and Hillary suite. Now it was and this is almost like mainstream acknowledgement of how poorly handled that was. And not to mention what's the guy? Sweet Ron Martelli. There was a whole bunch of other who was the one didn't the Black Eyed Peas guy jump in there for a hot minute?

Yeah, and was it um, was it him or were you talking about watch you got what club John I'm sorry. Wyclef. Yeah. Like okay. Yeah. Rodman and let's not forget about Mr. Rotom. Hillary Clinton's brother. Uh, yes, he got when he got the the exclusive mining licenses to mine for gold. Right. So but it was the natural disaster. That was the problem. Yes. Because not not, no earthquakes and hurricanes hate black people. And they target I mean, they,

they racially profiled racist island over there. That one looks nice. Let's let's go blow that one down. Not the government, you know, and I put the sole responsibility on the government of those nations, because they're allowed to misuse the funds that are given to assist their people. But this goes to show you the problem. They don't want to step on any toes of the Maggard downers and the donor, donor class because this is where they get their daily bread from

fundraising. 101 right there in the book, right? Yeah, you don't step no step on the toes of the donors. But moving forward. Miss Alicia, Garza. Let's hear her take on black lives matter when you deal with what's happening in black communities. It creates an effervescence, right? So a bubble up rather than a trickle down. Let me give an example. When we talk about the wage gap, we often say women make 78 cents to every dollar that a man makes y'all have heard that before. But those are

the statistics for white women and white men. The reality is that black women make something like 64 cents to every 78 cents that white women make. When we talk about Latinas it goes down to about 58 cents. If we were to talk about Indigenous women, if we were to talk about trans women, it would even go farther down. So again, if you deal with those who are the most impacted, everybody has an opportunity to benefit from that. Okay, well, this you know, I have a trouble problem with

these statistics in general. I don't know if that's where you want to go, but I know we're not going to go down that. I agree. I agree with your honor. I know you're going to come from and yeah, those numbers are our ra Missmiss Twister the calculations. The point I want to make is out of all three founders out of all the clips that we heard. We never heard the Black Male No, no, no man No. No brought up once. And I didn't cherry pick

this. I didn't cherry pick this TED Talks video. This is literally the first Question and their responses? Well, that shows that we've been hoodwinked. Yes, we have and we were told that we were hoodwinked by people on the ground. in Ferguson, there is a gentleman named Darren seals. He was one of the local activists, and he

was tied to the streets. in Ferguson, well respected. He know he started out in the streets, but then he, you know, he, he, he went away from that, to you know, kind of being a positive force in the streets. But let's let's do Mr. Darren seals speak about black lives matter what it is man? Did hashtag Black Lives Matter? That bore is bullshit, man. Black Lives Matter. No one's doing it. People don't even know that black lives matter. They want

this to send these people to do the right. Black Lives Matter. They sit him down. That was awesome. Right, so now his name is dB. D re d r ay. D re he's a homo. Homo. Homo go to the right now. Follow. Go look at him. But 50,000 followers before the credit court, he's from Baltimore. There's a credit. He's from Baltimore. He'd been highly focused. The focus that person got here by seeing it from folks are right handed the folks that thing and quiet down. He went back to Baltimore, the

Baltimore boys read them about it. There was a lot going on in this clip. No. Yes, it is. And no, and I would say in a way it feels like we're getting a look inside the mind of, dare I say an average black American male who are not brought up ahead. Yeah. I'm glad you brought that point. And he received pushback for using, quote unquote, unacceptable language when he talking about the LGBT community. They labeled him as a homophobic, he addressed that later on in the clip, but I

didn't want to make the clip too long. Not later on this clip, but other clips. He, he addressed that, as they painted him as they paint anybody that disagrees with them as being homophobic and not to be heard. But the point he was trying to make is, these people came from other places. And created a situation and made the situation worse than it was the agitated. What was going on in Ferguson, while reaping the benefits, and actually wasn't even boots on the ground. They weren't

standing on the front lines. No, they were on Twitter. They were you know, securing the funds that never made it to the people like himself that were were on the ground. And one thing you brought up is inside the mind of a black man. I'm gonna say this black people, and I've said this before Black people are some of

the most socially conservative groups there is. So when you try to push these new ideas and ideologies on us that go counter to what we believe you get pushed back now he is not the most articulate person. Well, let me let me jump in. I mean, just from my perspective, the general feeling I get my you know, I don't like to generalize, but we're doing it is that black men have an aversion against gay men and certainly transgendered black men. Okay, let's take let's take,

ah, that's that's just an observation. It's generalizing, you know, and tell me where I'm at. I'm gonna speak from personal. Ah, I have nothing against LGBT. The problem I have is the over representation in the media of black men being gay. Got it? Where 30% of the population is black. Half of that makes this What 6.5% of the population? Correct? Yep, boom. When you turn on the television. There's Don Lemon.

Right. The number of black men represented in the media represented in movies represented and just overall was portrayed on you know, the television screens, movie screens, even memes, when you look at means black men are represented as overall a large portion or a large portion of them are represented as a homosexual. Also, just and I don't I didn't want to go here, but it's going to be very important to this. This conversation we're having. There

was recently a guy named Malik Yoba. I don't know if you familiar with him or not. But he was on a popular television show. New York undercover. It was a nightie night. He's on Fox. He's come out and he's been hugely Pro. Trans. He's trying to say that. If you date trans women, I don't know how it goes when I think the women men that are women or trans women, I

believe. Yeah, I don't have my Yes, right. There pushing now that you shouldn't if you don't want to date a trans woman, you're transphobic and homophobic. Yeah, well, and that's colorless. I mean, that's across the board. If you say I'd never drink data trans woman, you're transphobic right off. That's the you know, this is this is the Dave Chappelle trap. This is the Dave Chappelle trap. And it's it's amazing how these two things were going on at the same time in the news. Yeah, Dave

Chappelle is comedy special. And then you had Malik Yoba coming out being an advocate for this. And of course, they went to the Breakfast Club, and I don't want to go down that rabbit hole, but I just want to go to show you in the mind of average black males like you're either portraying us as hyper sexual, violent, or hyper feminine. Masculine, there's no you know, normalcy. We don't get any normalcy, how we're represented in the media and I think that's what you're hearing now from Mr. Darren

seals, but just to get back on track. Let's hear on Darren speaks Darren seals speak out about Black Lives Matter. So when I tweet and they play in Canada with the white folks you know, they've racist they hide behind fake pages on Twitter talking shit going back and forth we tweet retweet it's like a big ass show. You know so you got a lot of people sending them money turning them into stars Oprah tweet net in Hong Kong her fucking the face of Ferguson nobody know the fuck she is in

the face of shit. When even out there which came out this year said don't tweet like what you [email protected] Anyways man, we're happy we don't understand Black Lives Matter. This organization I think it's just a hash tag and people just saying hey, Ty white folks are part of it. They put it in the media some behind it believe it won't cry so he saw what was going on. He saw the money coming in was it was it reaching you know you see these GoFundMe

is go up. You see these people that are receiving all this media attention on social media but you're not seeing them on the front lines question yes. How? So the Black Lives money funding money that comes in? What do the boots on what did they expect that they would be giving them money to survive while protesting materials signs? I mean, what what would the money what was the money necessary for? Okay, about 1 billion people out of jail? Wow. Yes, God, okay,

got it, too. I mean, it's kind of like when when you're now you gotta look at it like you're at war and war analogy, but you got to have resources to the troops. The bail right at the top I get it. A lot of a lot of money raised for protesters is for for bail, bail funds. Okay, let me let me draw this analogy to you. So say you always bringing up the homeless issue in Austin, right. I'm from Northern Virginia DMV, DC area. Ally a man that's terrible. What

was going on in Austin? I come out there I set up shop, saying I'll Austin Austin. But then I secure funds and take them back to DNV. GL, ya know, I live in Austin. That would be seen as like, disingenuous. Yeah, um, but he made a good he made a point there isn't it's not a good point. But what black people have noticed, and I'm just speaking in generalities, generalities that whenever you see these groups show up Um, and you see they're headed by or funded, you know, by certain,

you know, same demographics. I'm being white liberals in this case. You know, it really irks you, you know, especially when you're in when we saw how he understood how it was going to end up. What we saw on the previous clips that how they were speaking about what Black Black Lives Matter had evolved to, not what they were raising money off of. But Mr. Darren seals, um, he was causing too many problems. Don't upset the applecart.

Right. When you come out there and you start adding, he has started gaining gaining attention, albeit from smaller platforms. That's why I had to get the I read the really big to get these clips because, um, they were really, for lack of a better word blackballing him and the media. On to a certain event happen. Darren seals was known locally as a rapper nationally for his activism during the Ferguson protests, seals was found shot inside a burning car in Riverview on Diamond drive.

Police initially thought they were responding to a car on fire. But once they put out the flames, they discovered seals body inside with a gunshot wound the community cares about Benjamin Graham does with the St. Louis County Police Department. He's hoping seal status will encourage people to come forward with information. I do know that there is a lot of sentiment in the community that they want justice, they want the truth and we hope to give that

to them. We can't do it alone. So we're hoping that friends, family members, acquaintances, or just any members of the community can come forward and help us out with this with any information they may have. Yeah, you know, I vaguely remember this. And I remember it and we might even talked about it on no agenda. We were like, well, if you're in the car and the cars burning, and you got a bullet holding it, you got to know that's not suicide.

Not suicide and not some random beef. The guy was beloved in his neighborhood, rather people that actually live there. It reminds me of the and God His name just slipped my mind just that quick. The guy who was shot in DC, with the Democratic um, he was a Democratic Party worker. Oh is sad? I think it was Shawn, it was the name Shawn. It wasn't Shawn. It was. This is horrible that we don't don't know this. Okay, consult the book and knowledge. Seth Rich, I knew I was gonna get this right now.

Just the fact that we forget. shows even more trouble. That's That's tragic, isn't it? Because we remember him. I mean, we all remember him. But as I mean, you go to show you that people can be erased. And this is the case I think is good with Darren seals. He was talking too much for certain people good. And we know as looking back now, a lot of big money was being pumped into Black Lives Matter. Now. Was there? Was there any kind of investigation? Was there any follow up of this? This murder?

I searched all over the web. That was the only clip I could find. And there was other ones around that time just reporting the death but no follow up. And usually when there's no follow, I'll say it like this. If you okay is to is two ways you can look at it. One, the police killed him or people who pro police killed him because he was an activist. And then you use him as a martyr. You know, to gain attention, right? I mean,

know what I'm saying? Yeah, of course, it right. But the fat and the same thing with Seth Rich, if he was killed, because he had information about the Russians, quote, unquote, Russians. Yeah, that would, or you could use gun violence, which would have been great for the Democratic Party, you know, look another, you know, saying one of our own take it down my gun violence, you know, we need to bring attention to gun control,

and none of that and to be specific, Seth Rich. The belief is that he was the one that pulled the emails from the Democratic National Committee server and gave those to WikiLeaks. That's true, but what I'm saying is it You say it's a random street crop, which is the official story. Yeah. Right. Why didn't the Democrats use this as a, one of our own taken by gun violence? Well, you know, it was, it was a 22 caliber. It's not a scary ar 15. But I understand what you're saying.

Right? And it's the same thing. If you look at it through the same lens here, if it was a anti Black Lives Matter, pro cop, murderer, right? We need to use this guy as a martyr. Yes. But when it goes silent, then you know something's up. Okay. All right, I totally get it. So that's, that's how I saw that. But we got to understand, okay, if we're gonna go with he was silence. Why would we be silence? And my theory is the money that was being pumped into Black Lives Matter and who was doing it. So

who's funding Black Lives Matter? One of the big donors seems to be George Soros or old Powell gives big money to affiliates of Black Lives Matter groups that do direct business with them, also giving money directly to the group, entertainers, Jay Z and Beyonce. And they are joining us now from Washington, Kelly riddle, an investigative reporter for The Washington Times. Is this just a fringe group? Or should we take them seriously?

Well, I mean, you gotta look at Black Lives Matter is really an umbrella slogan kind of group that encompasses a lot of social justice workers, and a lot of social justice organizations. And it's it was a group that was started by three women that work at Soros backed organizations that are into community organizing, into kind of riling up activists.

And yes, okay, it's all coming back now. Yep. And I remember I don't know which one of the women had, I think, a $2 million nonprofit that definitely was funded by Open Society Institute, ie George Soros. I don't know about all of them, though. That was Alicia. Garza. Okay. Yeah. And that's the one you guys covered on the no agenda that she was really receiving some money from some Chinese organization? Well, I think we're saying you did some research on that as well. But

let's not say I digress on that point. But if you're going to go to theory that he was silenced, big money will get you silenced very quickly. This is a very black lives matter. And that's why I'm harping on this. And just go, we're going going back, what's the goal for for why D re McKesson and Shaun King are having this long standing beef, mm D Ray was in a position of power. He had the blue vest he was on The Tonight shows. And lo and behold, Sean Kane came in and replace them. At some point.

Now derailed on the outside looking in, the women of Black Lives Matter has moved on to bigger and better causes to fight. And he's left with only Twitter frame. Ah, now that's not my words. Let me go to nine. Like I said, there's an article that came out this morning from Shaun King, and there was this was his reply. Let me find it. So in the beginning of his article, he mentions how he says I am not our Twitter account. When I look in the mirror in the morning, I don't see at Shaun

king or a social media personality. I'm a husband to the brilliant black woman I first met and fell in love with 1996. And that was and him saying that because Yeah. You picked up on that. Um, oh, yeah. Oh, yes. @MoeFactz, I hear you. Right. So, but he goes on to say, let me D Ray has been basically Ah, okay, here's a quote. D Ray is now mainly famous for being famous more than he is famous for actually doing real work that helps real people. And because his fame is

mostly exclusively centered on Twitter. Got it? So he's saying we branched out we become real entities in the movement and poor deranged you know, he's a Twitter either Twitter celebrity right. And that's, that's, that's the fundamental beef right there. That's the fundamental beef right there. So, I know you guys are saying and everybody's saying, well, Mo, you come in with Fox News facts about soy, about soy rose and Black Lives Matter. No, I don't that

guy actually looked it up. I remember looking at the form 990 of Garza is a nonprofit and there it was Open Society Institute. That's not Fox News. That's, you know, IRS filings? Well, as I always like to do, I like to bring balance, and we're gonna list them Mr. De Patman, who was super progressive, he's a Bernie bro. Ah, and he's gonna also make the claim that Black Lives Matter is Soros funded?

And I have a very, very specific idea that we need to explore seriously, which is that the anti Bernie Sanders tinge of the Black Lives Matter movement recently couldn't be George Soros funded astroturf, and I will speak as specifically as possible, Louis. And then I will allow you Lewis to tell me what

you think about this. It's widely on record, that George Soros, the liberal billionaire has poured a ton of money into two movements that were instrumental in creating Black Lives Matter and the buzzword dating back to January, we knew that George Soros spent over $30 million bankrolling Ferguson demonstrators and of course, Ferguson relates to Officer Darren Wilson, who killed unarmed teenager Michael Brown

and was ultimately not charged. This includes support by George Soros of groups like color lines, news for action. Organization for black struggle, which established itself then established the hands up coalition. Soros also gave money to the Drug Policy Alliance, which worked on pushing Black Lives Matter as a bug buzzword, which has since been incorporated into speech speeches by political figures, including Hillary Clinton. Now, tell me again about this. David Pakman.

Dave Pakman, he's, he has almost 700,000 followers on YouTube. He's progressive. Is he white guy? White Guy, white guy. All right. Are you asking me a question? I last show about his black woke and White woke the same? Yeah. Oh, and this is where you can see where they can part ways. Because they have different genders this, and they have different agendas. And if they don't line up, they will attack each other. So this is a

perfect example of that. Now, I guess other people may say, well, Moe, that's just two white guys saying that black guy. Black Lives Matter. Yeah. So that right so um, let's go to Mr. Lord Lord Jamal with Jamar brand Nubian fame rapper from the 1990s. blacker than that, that's. Yeah. And let's listen to him speak on Black Lives Matter being somewhat supported by Soros? I don't know. I just thought that was weird shit. And I'm not no Black Lives Matter supporter? No, absolutely not. Because it's

not our movement. This is a movement that was given to us by, you know, George Soros and his fucking boys. Because they saw how things were going and they didn't want it to go back to the 60s to where we started having our own organic movements. That was a big fucking problem for them. So let's give the people of movement that we can control. We'll provide them the leaders and all of this type of shit. And get that's the Black Lives Matter is look at the leaders of

Black Lives Matter or their leaders. Who could these lesbian women who are trying to incorporate you know? LG, whatever the fuck the letters are? incorporate those their concerns into black people's concerns. Go to the website, look it up. Well, first, let's help. Lord Jamar, it's LGBTQ Q IAP K. And what's what strikes me about this clip what he said in the beginning is he sees this situation, which I agree with, pretty much as the dinner scene from the movie trick, baby. Mm

hmm. Which is something that's coming back and the current theme of the show. Now you're saying it's all about control opposition? Oh, we have to control. You know, the masses, and what do we do about how we do that? We put the leadership in front of them. Oh, Whether it's homegrown, it's two ways that happen that can grow the leadership from the ground up. Which that's, I think this is where the conservative conservatives and liberals deviate in mindset. A lot of your conservative type talking

heads are grown from the ground up. What liberals do is they say who's hot in the streets right now? And they say, Okay, well, that allows Mattis the move. Okay, here's what we're going to do. What's your number? And then they come in, they Co Op, don't they give him money? You know, they give him that. Like I said, DeRay Mckesson went from on Twitter. I remember seeing his god pop up. And I'm like, Who is this? I do this. And really what

I mean by I'll do this. I'll see. I'll watch and I see, who are they putting up as movers and shakers. And when new people starting to pop up, I did the same thing with Obama, who is this guy? I never saw him in a jet. I never saw him in Ebony. I never, you know. And then you just pop up out of nowhere. Same thing with DeRay Mckesson? Who is this guy. Never seen you on black YouTube. I never, you know, because it's a circuit, you know, even you can go back because a lot of times this

stuff was captured on VHS. And then it was later loaded up on the YouTube, even pre YouTube. So a lot of these people have past history got history, right? So when you start digging in, like, I don't find anything on this guy, D Ray, I don't find anything on this guy, Shaun King. I don't find anything on these three ladies from Black Lives Matter. You know, they didn't come up through the I wanted the big circuit is the was the black bookstore circuit. That was kind of like the

Chitlin Circuit for black. I'm black speakers and thinkers. You know, you every town that had a large or semi large black population had a black bookstore, where they would sell literature. And like on Saturdays, give me the inside baseball here, folks. On Saturday, often a person my pushing a book would come to speak at these of bookstores. And that's what the VHS to VHS tapes were pop up it. You don't have that now because they can go straight to the people via a

YouTube or social media. So but that's what I'm saying. You have a legacy built up of saying, Okay, this guy's is an agent or he ain't agent you know, because you had to make your you know, you had to make your name and State Your Claim in those bookstores. These guys don't have any of that. So when I started to go do my homework almost as Lord Lord Jamar did. He's like, man, who the hell are the people? And I want to be clear. For certain people out there, they might hear this

tinge of black male versus the LGBT community. The problem with that, and I want to make this very clear is they've co opted us in so many ways. And when I say us the struggles of black people, specifically black men, to say, oh, yeah, we're just like black people. Black people don't have a closet. We don't have a closet that we ears. And I'm saying so it's very insulting. Now, on the other hand, you shouldn't be

disrespectful, anybody's life choices. I believe that you know, to each his own whatever you're saying whatever you're into, so we had to be respectful. But when somebody comes in and Co Ops, you know, the civil rights movement, they co opted that black lives matter, they co opted that not that we know black lives matter was only for

that. I'll give you another example. The Tea Party, which has nothing to do with black or white, although they're probably white people, which was started by Ron Paul, and this was 2008. And that got co opted massively. And there's still plenty ranch. Yeah. It's still a Tea Party has nothing to do with the original libertarian idea behind it. So yeah, the political movements get co opted all the time. Yeah, but the problem is, it's the same people co opting our

movements over and over and over again. And I'm not just talking about the 1990s I'm going all the way back to the Harlem Renaissance to the 1920s. That was fun, and I may have to do a later show. But you know, you just you got me with all you already got me with the black bookstores, which of course I didn't know about. Now I need to know about this movement in the 20s but that can be a step But show but I'm already intrigued.

Just just as a teaser, one that the guy listed as the father of the Harlem Renaissance was hugely pro LGBT in that time, and I'll just leave it at that. Okay. So back to large, Mr. M. Let's listen to him continuing on about black lives matter. You see them say there's no real Why is he? There is leaders. This is what I'm telling you. They're lesbians. They're black lesbians. Key people are Shaun King. Who's, he's he's a writer for

New York. Daily News. I'm not talking about the key people go to the fucking website who runs the shit? Is their website. Right? And because when I looked at Black live BLM leader, the key people that there's no leader that that's listed, but the key people that are listed is Shaun King, DeRay, McKesson and Johnetta. Elzie. So as you're saying, their Lord Jamar said when he said Shaun King, who's that? Right? If he doesn't know you, I mean, you you have no credentials. I mean, because

he's, his knowledge will be even more extensive than mine. I mean, by far, and two, who are the movers and shakers and pro black society? And he was like, Who's that? Oh, but as we see, fast forward. Just going back to the article that Shaun King wrote to Deray DeRay Mckesson. So here's why these things happen in the time that they happen and let me just spine to you. Okay, Shaun King was being recognized by Rihanna.

Ah, okay. This is the once you get into that, then you're up and up and into the new circles. Right so they were having a boss she has a home see, it says Okay, going back to the article, direct chose to release a public attack against me hours before the diamond ball

was vindictive, short sighted and destructive. So the diamond ball was a ball being hailed I'm about the Clara Lionel Foundation which is Rihanna foundation so he didn't he goes on to say he says but because the race poor poorly, Tom, and I don't agree with that, I think it was x you're saying Excellent. Excellently timed a op ed on the red carpet recall

reporters, we read it guest about me and my presence. And instead of Rihanna and the foundation, or the diamond ball being the top, the trending topic in the country, it was de Ray and his attacks against me all night long. So now we're seeing Shaun king is in a, you know, an inner circle, not only you know, on black topics, but with celebrities. You know, you're getting honored by by Rihanna, and you're getting,

you're saying, get invited to these balls. And not only that, but he's getting support by the one and only Cardi B one of the main reason why it's so important for me to be here is because Rihanna is honoring Shaun king. A lot of people need to follow Shaun King on Instagram. He protests so much for all minorities, he protests so much for the whole entire world. And he's doing this thing right now. It's called um, vote

for Senate. It's very important for people to go for Senate and everything so we could do the wrong things in order to say because the Democrats already got the house that's my black card right there. I practice for hours. All right. So Well, hold on a second. You know, Cardi B is dumb. All right. She just dumb. I've seen Cardi B. I hear what she says she I mean, she's an entertainer. She's funny to watch. He's got the hook. She's

got all that. Yeah, she's very entertaining to watch, but I don't think she's smart. Wait a minute. I'm curry. You wait a minute, sir. Oh, here we go. According to Mr. de reyes articlemy Mr. Shah kings are cool. He says, quote, furthermore, a sexist dhimmis these massive assumption is being made about both Rihanna and Cardi B, you can their public and private support of me. The assumption is that d Ray knows better than they do. And so sodas Adam curry.

Yeah, well, I stand by my by my points here. All right, he says the inference is that Rihanna and Cardi B were only better formed if they if they were only a little smarter, and only a little more won't like him. If they only knew what Twitter knows. They wind up with me quote, unquote, by the way, I don't I don't I don't think Rihanna is dumb. I think she's actually very smart. You fell right into the trap? Of course I did. Living up to my dumb white game. It's all good.

All right. So to get to that level, you can see why D Ray is here. Yeah, he's, yeah. I'm gonna say let's get him being of the LGBT community. He's like this guy. Shaun King. Hangover. Rihanna, and Cardi B Yeah. And I'm sitting next own. That's the art cume, that has to earn, um, but it's man. Um, but so now now we're seeing while we're here, I went all the way around the block to get us to the point of the beef. Now we understand the beef. Now, there has been some issues. Even Shaun King himself

saying their biggest issues were his fundraising abilities. So let's listen to fundraising fraud. Cain claims, one of one of the critiques of you is that you're good at creating stuff, good at building stuff, and good at fundraising for stuff. But then somewhere between the conceptualization and execution is a gap. Oh, that's true. That is probably the best criticism of me that somebody can offer. Like I'm, I'm a natural starter. I'm a, I've been fundraising my entire

life. And so I know how to pitch an idea. But I have struggled up until the past two or three years to figure out how to start something, grow it and maintain it. And the organization that we started real justice is probably the best thing I've ever been a part of. Real justice. So that's the real justice pack. When we spoke about before, yeah. So if you listen to say, Okay, so now, Adam, you weren't venture capitalist. So let's look at

this in the light of a venture capitalist. I believe so it's correct. Is that correct statement? Well, you mean, you mean, like Soros is even more hedge fund and venture capitalist? What I mean is, say something like, Okay, this is my understand how venture capitals work. Say, I have the MoeFacts app and it's the greatest thing since sliced bread. Right? Yeah. Okay. I'm a venture capitalist, I've right and I want you to, I want you to fund me, and they'll tell

you, Okay, this is how it's going to work out them. You know, it's going to be the best thing you know, ever. And all I need you to do is throw your money in saying behind the project, and we're going to be, you know, saying we're going to change the world. Great. Great. So what is my return on my investment? Right? So but you give me the money, okay. So you say okay, all right, I believe you, I'm giving you the money, you believe me the money and then I come back and you say,

You know what? Me implementing this idea is my problem. You know, I can come up with him. I have great ideas. But you know, that money you gave me I just have problems with you know, implementing the idea. That's basically what this guy just said. Yeah, I need some more his last clip. Yeah, how can you? How would that work out and and I know I'm maybe comparing

apples to oranges a little bit. But when you say you have an idea, or you have a you know, something that's going to change the world, people invest in you, they expect some kind of like you'd like you just ask what's the return on my investment? Now, it might not be money, but you want to see results? Right? Well, what we call this executing, executing, okay. Now, if I come back to you say, Wait, you know, Adam, my problem is really executing. Yeah. Right. Is that an acceptable excuse?

No, that is not acceptable that in fact, the only reason to come back for more money with a venture capitalist is because I can make even more money if we keep pumping more into it. We can build more scale, but saying, I'm sorry, I couldn't execute I need some more money is probably the worst thing you could say. But that's what he just said. Ah, so it's clear to me be clear this is from BT. This is from BT. And he got no pushback.

Nobody said, Well, you know, difference between like a dream and ideas either you can actually, you know, materialize, it executes. Right execute, you can execute, but not he is acceptable excuse that he can't execute. And nobody gives him pushback. And I think that's what derailed saying, in his article is like, do you guys so much money? But we haven't seen anything? Change, right? We haven't seen any fruits, you know, fruit. So you're saying of this money? Or suppose it hard

work. All right. So that's one thing he brought up in this, this this interview would be tea. Let's go to fundraising frogs too. But the truth is, because I am who I am, because I look how I look, there are doors that are open to me that sometimes shouldn't like, there are privileges and platforms that I get, there is this degree of even like light skin privilege and accessibility. Like because I look how I look, that makes me

more relatable to white people in white spaces. So what I have to do if I have some level of relatability that I didn't choose, I was born with it. I have to use it, I have to squeeze it have to maximize it. So Mr. Shawn King, the ones always preaching about privilege this and privilege that he likes to use the recipient, recipient of light skinned privilege, and now this is baseball. This is a real category this light skinned privilege is called

colorism. Oh, colorism now it is heavy, heavy in the black community is it is a real thing. It is but it's not exclusive to the black community. The reason why I say that is the Indian caste system is based off of colorism. When you go to Brazil, it's colorism. So what it is, is the lighter your skin is the more accessible or acceptable you are to white society. Now let me make the point out DeRay Mckesson is dark skin. Yeah. Well, I was just sitting here just I was just reflecting I'm

trying to think, how would I would I feel different? Getting a pitch from the light, light skin, or dark skin? And I was just I was contemplating it. I don't know. But I'm sure it exists. I'm sure it's real. I'm not saying I can't speak to how it is perceived from the white side. Oh, but some people in the black community I'm not gonna say all I never say all or anything. I believe that light

skinned people have an easier life. Now where that hits me is I have two children and a brown skin and I have two children who are light skin. I don't I don't think you know, I don't think one gets privileged more than the other. But I think this thought is taught at an early age. And I think two things are being conflated here. Well, MTV, okay, great. I'm sorry, just to interrupt you, MTV did a MTV decoded video where they say colorism is not racism? Do you remember that clip?

Vaguely. Do you want to just hear that for a second here how the young people are being taught today we're talking about a mode of discrimination that predominantly impacts people of color. And you might be surprised hearing this from me. But this episode is not about racism. I'm talking about colorism. First, let's be clear about what the word colorism actually means. colorism is not synonymous with racism. It's a form of discrimination based on

skin color. And before you're like Wait, isn't that like the literal definition of racism? Hold on to your social constructs because we're gonna knock a few Damn. And today we've got a special guest to help us with this demolition project. Haley, let's break this one down. Glad OKC as a Latino of color colorism is something I'm all too familiar with. Racism involves discrimination based on things such as skin color, but it's also dependent on power dynamics that becomes perpetuated by years of

structural oppression. Black and Latino men getting longer sentences for the same crime is white men racism, black and Latino odds telling you to date light skinned men. colorism because we have to complete race with skin color. Sometimes distinguishing between colorism and racism can get tricky colorism It sucks. This is one way racism and colorism are different systems of oppression favor white people, meaning black people can technically be racist towards other black

people. But clearly in this case, they can and do perpetuate colorism in their own communities, the discrimination is coming from inside of the house. Example number three language. This is a pretty common phrase people in Puerto Rico and the Dominican Republic grow up with Katherine among Spanish speakers in the Caribbean. The word means someone low class or brutish, and descent by people of all

colors and racial backgrounds. The word implies you're acting darker and both complexion and behavior, but the word itself carries a linguistic and cultural connection to blackness, it shares roots with a South African racial slur, cat fear. Wow, there's a lot in there. There's a lot in there. And we're conflating two things. Yeah, we have to understand where that thought process comes

from. Okay, so too, okay. So if you have a group of dark skinned people, the way you get light skin had to be through interracial relations, sex. So that means that you have a parent or lineage from white people. So that's where that thought process comes from, of lighter skin privilege. And it's a real thing, because going back not going back in slavery. The master kids that were his kids by a slave would often be given

their freedom. And so they created this subclass in black society where they were not quite white, but there were a bunch of black people. And that's where it comes from. And it's just a long story short, um, but you have the brown paper bag test you had the pencil test? Well, yeah, well, I'm serious. Were in the late 1800s, early 1900s. You couldn't come to certain meetings are married to certain families, if you are darker than a brown paper bag, brown paper bag. That's crazy.

Wow, this is true. And Spike Lee's movie school days cover this evening, sororities and fraternities were the same way as well. If you go back and look at certain pictures from that divine nine Greek fraternities I was telling you about, at a certain time point, you will only see fair skinned people in these organizations with certain hair textures, and they will they won't marry white. So I will say if you were like skin, you wouldn't marry white, but you will only marry like skin.

So, um, I interrupted you, you were going to tell a personal story about your kids. And I think I interrupted you. I'd love to hear what you're gonna say, Oh, well, like I said, it's I don't think people nowadays feed into colorism as much because like I say, I have brown skin, children and light skinned children. I treat them equally I make them equal responsible. But like I said, what we're dealing

with is from the past. These are these are very old mindsets. But as you know, with any privilege, people want to point it out when it doesn't benefit them, of course. And it's amazing that he openly said, Oh yeah, I've benefited from light skinned privilege. But going back to the TED talks from the Black Lives Matter. clips that we heard before there was one clip that Miss Alicia Garza said that I found interesting.

The reality is that race in the United States operates on a spectrum from black to white doesn't mean that people who are in between don't experience racism, but it means that the closer you are to white on that spectrum, the better off you are and the closer to black that you are on that spectrum, the worse off you are. Yeah. So even she acknowledges it. So going back to I'm not I'm not pro Deray I think he's honestly this is the snake eating its tail. situation. Yeah, I'm just standing about

looking like eggs but you knew this. I could have told you this was gonna happen. I could have told you d Ray was gonna play that. He was going to play the color risk card, which he hasn't yet but I mean, really play but that's really reviving some old shit that has no place in society in black society anymore, but yet it's being used. Well, yeah, it's aggressive, great point. It but that goes to show you that any privilege can be used even though it may not

be functional. I will Say this and I want to challenge you to do something is not only is not only in our minds, the mass media has something to do with this. And the reason I say this is watch television on a commercial, you will never see a man with a woman darker than him except Barack Obama. Well, that's why he got so many credentials in the black community. And he understood that. And he understood that. He's, I have to go get, you know, the most system I can

find, and you know, and bathed in that. Yeah. Oh, Kamala Harris. Yeah, colorism has an issue. She has a colorism problem. She's darker than Cora. But she's lighter than Stacey Abrams. Bingo. Enjoy reach get off TV. But that's why Jerry gets away with murder. Yeah. Yeah, that's why it's why are we getting away with murder? If Joy Reid was, uh, okay, say Joy read compared to I, um, what's the lady's name? It's always on CNN. Anna of Cabrera. No, no, no. She's bear skin. Oh, Ray.

Right, right, right. Right. Um, Angela, Angela. Rai, rai. Angela. Right. Why do I know all these black people? Oh, come on. Because she's a great Twitter man. Angela, right. Yes, we got. Angela right was to say some of the things that darker skin woman has said and you just said her name got off today. But Joy Joy was the dark skinned lady for Ms. Embrace Joy read or read if Jory. Drewery words would come out of Angela Ross. Now she

would be canceling. Let's be let's be clear on this. But when you're dealing with why society, Shaun King says to get into make people feel more comfortable. And we're talking about liberals here. Let's be we're not talking about conservatives. We're talking about liberal, the most liberal thinking people he even acknowledged that his light skin makes people feel more comfortable. So that makes you wonder, okay. There, his light skin has become an issue clipped when

I have tremendous respect for the work that he's done. But when you're if you hold yourself up to something, that is not what you claim to be, then that's a problem if you're a leader, not now, I'm not saying that he's doing that. But that is what's in question now. And that's why this story is newsworthy you here's what he said to me. So I asked him about it, because there are all these claims about him. Whether he's black, white, biracial, or whether he's was there a civil

hate crime that happened him back in 1995. And I said to him last night, I said, What would you like to convey? And he said, number one, this attack isn't about me so much, but about derailing Black Lives Matter and the movement against police brutality. And he said number two, the reports are all lies. I tried hard to debunk them and others have said as a and others have said that they are lies as well. And then he said I will speak soon. And I asked him specifically I said you know are

you legally black? Are you legally white? Or are you biracial? Are you black or white? He says I am biracial. And I said is that what it is on your birth certificate? He did not answer I'm gonna say this. And I'm not a burglar. I didn't see that birth certificate. I didn't say it. Yeah, he. Shaun King. People go look at him. He never struck me to be a black guy. He never want struck me to be black. As we pointed out on this show, when you're good for the movement.

They give you a pass. Right? The reason why I say that is we recall Miss Rachel dollars. Oh, my favorite. Well, Martha, I'll be honest with you until a few days ago, I thought he was a white dude. I had no idea that he was pretending or telling people that he was black. And I know some people out there are asking that very question that you just had right now. Well, why does this matter? It matters because for the past year, we have had heard this phrase white

privilege thrown around thrown in people's faces. It's been used as a as a way to divide. I mean, this isn't Shaun King, by the way isn't the first Rachel Dolezal Elizabeth Warren was the first one Rachel Dolezal was the second Rachel Dolezal. And now He's the third and it just seems incredibly ironic. And he was born in Kentucky. And I was just I just brought up a picture, take a look at it. I mean, he could be Latino for all I know. And even then he'd be very, very light skinned.

Very light skin. And if, like I said, he's never struck me to be. I mean, when I saw him, I didn't say that. Oh, that's a black guy. Um, I'd like to see him with. I'd like to see him with his hair longer than I'd get a better idea is to do the hair test. And he and he's, he's did the chameleon thing. He's embraced the black hairstyle, the mustache. Yeah, you know, saying way Rachid dollars out, which was a 100, Complete 100%

Complete white woman. Don't remember when she put the braids in the skin tone, or Tanner, or however you want to call it. She? She identified as black and she ran a local chapter of the NAACP was fantastic. A great story. But the So why did we counsel her. And Shaun King gets a pass because she, her parents came out and said she's white. And that's I don't know, Shaun King's parents are. Right. But for you to say, Ah, you don't bring for your birth

certificate. issues. But as we saw with Gandhi, as we saw with Cesar Chavez, and we saw with it, as long as the imagery is good for the movement, we'll give you a pass. And we knocked out this is not only exclusive to Shaun King, the lady brought up with with Elizabeth Warren. She got a pass. Oh. You mean the whole Pocahontas thing? Yeah, absolutely. She appropriating somebody whose culture? Yes. When she gets a pass because she's for the greater good. And this is this

is their thought pattern for the greater good. But when you say the greater good, we're talking about the greater good for the money that the pizza for the people who are holding the money who are going to give the money. Right? They are great for the movement for the for the right for the greater good. If we can make the story go away. And in the clip before the last one we played that was Don Lemon. Now that he was supposed to press Shaun king, but everybody has hands off. This is what I think

everybody has the hands off on Shaun King. Whenever you can motivate are the raising of $30 million. Yeah, you're gonna be the money's going somewhere. Yeah, and you're the boss, you're not gonna you're not gonna you're not going to be canceled and a is not exclusive to him. Because the same way. Elizabeth Warren Warren's not canceled because she's the front runner for the Democratic nomination. She is the leading

woman candidate. And she wasn't canceled. But let's listen to shocking dollars out too. I mean, he had once suggested to a friend of mine, Lawrence Jones, who was a black conservative that he wasn't black enough somehow. I mean, I've watched this guy sit here and call people white supremacist and use the term white privilege and throw around these terms. So yeah, if you're going to kind of throw around those terms and be out in someone's face as the judge and jury of blackness or whiteness.

And this comes up, and there are records showing that your dad is white. Yeah, it does become an issue because it shows that it's ironic and you're a hypocrite and if the color doesn't matter, Endo, then why throw all of those, you know those phrases around from him?

Well, I don't know what phrases you're referring to. But even Jesus, when asked about his brother and his mother said, those people that do my Father's will and obey what He says those of my brothers and sisters, about God being blessed and standing with and you know, as much as I like to hear, Dana, I'm gonna have to go with Jesus. You can't can't argue that map. Now you you what you've just witnessed is a Mind Control technique presented by the Male

Speaker In this clip, to my control black people. As we've listened before, who do we say was on the wall? Yeah, we got Jesus we get well now or before, before before MLK. Malcolm X. News? No, it was Malcolm X JFK, JFK and Jesus. I'm sorry. Yeah, you're right. And now replaced by Oprah. Beyonce. Is Jesus still there? Now, now he was replaced. Serena Williams Well, You know, I gotta say she is kind of Jesus. I'll give her that. Right.

So, but as you're saying it was that was that was a deliberate? Yeah, Mind Control answer to say it, you're saying energy Jesus. And so the conversation to I hate to say the word again, to my control black people, right now Jesus said Who's my brother who's my mother? You know, how does that even equate? And in a previous back and forth between these two people? He interjected

MLK talking points. Yeah. Okay. So he said he's using the triggers he was he was triggering black people 100% Because he says, It's not about the color your skin but the context of your character. Yeah. Oh, hi. So this guy was It was disgusting. It was disgusting what he did there. And you see they're pulling all stops out to protect Shaun king. But Malcolm X warned us about people like Shaun King, and how liberals will use them 00.

I'm suspicious of whites who join negros and always have to be in the league, who always have to be the head who always have to be at the top in Negro organizations, those whites who really have the interest of blacks at heart, let them give some advice to some negros and stand on the sidelines. But don't join the organization and then get out ahead of it, and

pose as a friend of negros. Today, you could point to a large number of negro leaders who have consistently betrayed negros and a whole host of era, they aren't really negro leaders, these are puppets that have been put in front of the Negro community by white

liberals. These are parents that have been put in front of the Negro community by white liberals, you can't name me, a negro leader who has been a negro leader who has been betrayed who has betrayed Negroes who is not who has not been endorsed, sanction, subsidized and supported by the white number. Yeah, that sounds like Malcolm X, that's for sure. So to bring out the point, and what he's saying is, before we can even get off the ground, we have to always deal with these

infiltrators. Oh, and this is what the claim that directors making not that he's a white guy or anything like that, but just that this guy's misappropriating funds, he's stealing money, you know, he's disingenuous these things is only what C D Re is self serving. Where are you at? When you're waha, hop, right. And let's not forget, we started clips before D Ray was accused of the same thing, misappropriating funds, stealing Shawn from the people on the ground of Ferguson. So like I

said, this is the snake eating its tail. So this, this is where we're at with this story. But as I did some more digging, as I always do. I found out I found a potential smoking gun, Tom Joyner Shaun King one. But the most important thing we can do, I'm going to shave most of my work on this and 2018 The most important thing we can do is to let the progressive woke, conscious, reform minded

prosecutors. No single individual plays a bigger role in the criminal justice system in this country than the district attorney. Ah, I knew you'd get to the Soros sisters eventually. Love it. That is you. Right. That is ground zero right there when that's come out. Kamala Harris, that's who's in Chicago. I mean, it's everywhere now. Kim Fox, Kim Fox, yes. I have a list of like 1015 names. And like I said these things. These people are aligning on one

agenda. That's two what two agendas, but one is here that illustrate one the flipping the House and the Senate. As you've heard Cardi B say, she said we Yep. We got. Yeah. She said we know she said we got out. Right. And now. You have a Shaun King, who's on Tom's doing a radio show. With Tom Joyner. I remember I have high high regard for Tom Joyner. I'm hoping that he pushed back on Shaun King in this interview.

Hell no. You know, why? Don't you know why? Tom Joyner is a business associate of news one. Wow. No. Okay, guys. Got it. Radio One. Yeah. Now you've heard why the first clip was so important. Oh, yes. So protective of Shaun king. And I liked Tom Joyner. Oh, man. But Tom Joyner, he's, he's all nonsense. I mean, not saying like that, but he's not trying to pick fights. He's not trying to make enemies in high places. He gets shot to the platform.

You come on, you say your spiel, you know, you know, I'm not gonna push why this point in his career with Tom during the push back. Now, you could look it on University. What do you have to lose? Right? But why now? These kinds of people? The OG Charlemagne in a way, right? That's I'm learning Yes. Yeah. Yes, yes. And just to go to show you why we say why is black right now we have we us another common themes in the show that we were doing here or

this conversation, repeatedly is black radio. Yeah. Black radio is so influential and black culture. Because it's access to free entertainment. In your car, as you set your dance, yeah. You know, um, and it's kind of waning now. Oh, you are you know, satellite radio with satellite radio when people with cords and Bluetooth? You know, it's kind of at answer black radio, but black radio at one time was the end all be all? Oh, for sure. And when I worked in New York, the C 100. Which

for sure. Cracker White Station? You know, the the biggest competition was BLS was K to you. I mean, yeah, the black radio was as always been very successful in urban markets for sure. Because it's, it's access free access. Yeah. Um, with the FM radio, you can dive right in. And if you need to put a talking points out there. It is free over the radio waves. So now we see from the beginning, the first clip to the end. Shaun King is the eighth guy. Yeah, he's he's the IT guy.

He's protected. Because I when I heard that first clip, I was like, why is this guy? He's not even being fair. You know, I'm, you know, giving both sides of the story because I read both articles. And I was waiting for him to drop some of the talking points of D array. And it wasn't there. It was all well, Shawn, you know, job seven, two page report and everything. Nothing to see here. Seven panels sandwich seven person panel was being cleaned up, nothing to see here. So I'm like, why is that?

And then and then when I looked at I was at our radio. I mean, news one is a product of radio one. And then that's why it's just a little behind the scenes. I was freaking out when right before we were doing the show. Because the podcast monsters didn't want me to have that clip. I just play. It was trying not to get on the air. But we got it. Yeah, right. We shut him down. I mean, because now you see. He is part of the star Oh, sisters apparatus. Now why? Why is that?

I don't know. But maybe he'll shine light on Tom Joyner is part two, our nation has 2300 of them operating in every county and in every medium to large city in America. No roll. No bigger person has a larger impact on who goes to jail and who doesn't. Who gets prosecuted and who doesn't? Then the district attorney, no single person plays a bigger role in whether or not corrupt and violent police are not only charged with crimes,

but also get convicted, then the DEA, they are essential. And let me tell you something that's both shocking and disgusting. Over the 2300 elected TAs in the United States, 95% of those elected TAs are white. And 81% of them are white men in a nation that's on its way to becoming a country of color. 95% of district attorneys are white, and they are largely conservative. It may very well be the whitest most conservative, male dominated profession in America, then I'm sure that's absolutely right.

So let me ask this question. So 95% are white right so that means 5% of non white have their fiber sent Kamala Harris was one of those 5% How does she do anything different? Then, you know, when she's liberal, because he brought up conservative, she's a female, black liberal. What she locked up people use people first, basically slave labor. Oh, so what's different? Well, I mean, what do you expect different as long as he you know, I don't understand. Well, what is the goal?

When she does it? At least she looks friendly. wished he was she? I think I think that's I don't understand what we expect differently. Well, let me let me get let me take another take a stab at this. Because, you know, it's always Oh source this source that and on the no agenda show, we've talked about this, ultimately, very rich, the rich elites want want to control chaos, so they can protect their own shit. And that's ultimately

what they want. They want to be able to control it. Now, in this case, it's more of the same, except you better believe that Kamala Harris is under control. I totally agree with you. And as you brought up on the no agenda show, and maybe let's just having heard this talking point. Now we're starting to see these more liberal da saying, well, anything under $1,000 Right are really a crime. You're so right.

So, okay, now, if I'm a poor person living in a poor neighborhood, which crime happens very high, and we're seeing a high rate that $1,000 affects me differently than if I'm, you know, some I'm one of these people that make combined income of 350k limit in the same gentrified neighborhoods. I was just partying. I was just reparations or whatever. Oh, no, it's

it's completely bullcrap. And you know, California, certainly, Los Angeles, and I think San Francisco as well have have ordinances where it's like anything, and I think it's, it's 750 or 1000. But it's like anything. We're not even going to show up and the cops aren't going to show up not going to do anything. Can't deal with it. It's what a crime of necessity I think is the term. Yeah. Which is lawlessness, really.

So But now, I'm going to put my conspiracy tinfoil hat on. If I'm trying to get rid of poor people, and Prom real estate. And I can't drive them out. You know what raising prices? What's what's the first vehicle to rent people out a neighborhood? crime, crime, crime? high crime? You got it? Wow. It's so cynical, man. It's so cynical. Ah, no. But that's the only that's the only the only way I

can look at it is. We've seen it with the crack era, we've seen it with other influx of crime, you know, they're gonna let crime happen. It drives them out of prom real estate areas that have taken over by poor minorities. That is not a black thing, you know, poor poor people in general. And if we can't force them out, you know, it gentrification has got to get in there black out right now. So we can't, you know, just gentrify them. Right. To make them leave. Well, crime them up.

Yep. Yeah, we crowd them out. And then you know, oh, well, liquid, they did their own communities. And yeah, and I'm sure the redistricting, which is always done in the guise of we, you know, like, Oh, we got to screw the Republicans or the Republicans are trying to screw us, but this would be another great way to district crime into certain ads. It's an eye opener. For sure. Yeah. Well, I can't wait till Kamala Harris is our president, it's gonna be great. That'll never happen.

Wow, Moe. This was good, man. This was good. I got a couple of things to look into. But definitely, I wonder what the next round is going to be of this, this medium fight because you know, they've moved it beyond Twitter. Personally, I think the people will tune out pretty soon. If they're, you know, if they're, if they want to get in depth, they have to read 70 pages of financial reporting. And you know, that's

kind of that's not how you change public opinion. That's not how things change, typically, unless there's illegality that can be proven, but I haven't seen that yet. From this back and forth. Well, the 72 page report works perfectly because he's like, I dropped a 72 page report. It's all there, right? Shut up. But you bury whatever is there because people like Greg got to gloss over by page one or two. Yeah. And just another example of these mediums. articles are great for

screenshotting and then posting on Twitter. That's how that's how that thing works. You post it there, then you highlight something you say you screenshot it, and you post it back on Twitter. Yeah, you're right. You're right. Wow. Well Moe, thank you very much for for a yet again, an hour and a half of just fantastic stuff. I'm glad you enjoyed it, and I hope all the listeners enjoy it as well. And they find out you in it. So yeah,

you burst my bubble here when it comes to Tom Joyner. I'm a radio guy. You know, Tom Joyner is famous for doing two stations in one day flying back and forth. I mean, he's a fantastic radio guy. But now that I hear that he's all in. That's disappointing. Oh, he's, he's off the Christmas list. All right, well, thank you very much. Actually, I should back this up for a second, I need to remind everybody that you need

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and we're not funded by anybody. Let's just put that out there. Oh, yeah. So you got to be funded. We got to be funded by you guys. That's right. This is Moe Factz with Adam curry episode number seven MoeFactz.com. Thanks again. Moe All right, thank you Adam. As always say pay attention to everything and the truth will reveal itself. See you next week everybody. You really don't understand. Hey, man, don't you realize not a first to make this thing work man. We've got to get rid of

them. Tamsin pushes into prostitutes and it's not all over again clean nobody's pushing me anyway okay. I mean that you not the cops nobody man I mean you want to get rid of the pushes out to help you but don't send your people after me Come on John can you see that we can't get rid of one without getting rid of the other we got to come down on both of them at the same time in order for this whole thing to work for the people nobody's closing me out of our business.