06: Meet The Parents

Moe Factz with Adam curry September 9 2019, episode number six. And it's been way too long Mr. Moe. Two weeks, man, it's been it's been killing me. That was that it's I got the kind of like withdrawal symptoms. I know I was ready to do a show I couldn't. So I hope we do twice as well on this show to make up for it for the people. Well, I was just looking at the, at the elements of the show you sent over you got quite a number of clips here so I can I already

have some ideas as to what we'll be talking about today. I'm very perceptive that way. Yes. titling the clips gave it away. A little bit a little bit. Little bit. Yeah, um, first of all, I want to say Happy 55th Birthday to you. Thank you, sir. Yeah, thank you, sir. Double nickels. And just to let you know, I celebrated my 12th wedding anniversary yesterday. Oh, God bless you. Fantastic. Thank you. Thank you. So I guess we're both have on how little hangover from my house to celebrations.

Yeah, I have a hangover from your celebration. Exactly. All right. I can't wait to hear we're going to do today. All right. So just to catch you up. I don't know if you're great Twitter line caught you up with Jay Z. And the latest on his own happenings, just to fill the people in. And I know you're aware that he signed a deal with the NFL. Yep. And that wasn't well received by all in the black community, particularly because he apparently the impression was he

left Kaepernick out of the deal. That was one thread that people were unhappy with? Yes. So they say he sold out Colin Kaepernick. That's how it's perceived. And it's about a 5050 split. Half the people saying it's good that he got to see the table in the NFL. And but the other half are like Oh, Jay Z, you appropriated his us his movement. It because even Jay Z had taken a knee and one of his videos and Kaepernick Jersey, and then you go on to sign a

deal with the NFL so Right, right, right. What this has done is made Jay Z a target of the black woke community wound so he is up for a possible cancellation. Well, how is the black woke community woker than the White woke community? Well, they are. I think they're allies. Okay, so in certain ways you have the Liberals have black lives matter, they run in with the intersectionality. Right crowds, so they share they share common commonalities. And so like, like I stated before, he's

up for cancellation. And so they've been doing some digging on his past clips. Oh, no. Foul, something's on Jay Z and single parents. You think about the idea of growing up in a single parent house, which I grew up in which we grew up in. At first dealing for authority, right? father's gone. So you might hate my dad? Well, nobody tell me what to do. I'm the man in the house, that

you hit the street and you run into a police officer. And it's first phase, put your hands up, shut up, and you like, excuse my language, nobody likes you. Right. So that and that it's actually causes people to lose lives. And we don't want people that charge the police areas to be in danger, either. We want to be very clear, you know, someone commits a crime, they should go to jail. But these things are just disproportionate Christmas,

no disrespect. I don't want anyone that feels defensive. But what I'm saying I'm just saying is true. And the people that are here today, and the politicians that are here today knows the truth, that's why they're here. And it's a humane issue. Right. So if we Okay, all right, so this was said on a panel with believe, owner Robert Kraft from the NFL and he was speaking out. This is back in January, actually, this is before he signed NFL deal.

And nobody really said anything about this, but once he signed the NFL deal, then it became very relevant Of course, as you know, with the cancellation crowd canceled culture. They start to dig up past clips statements, and then they try You weaponize it against you. This is what happened. So let me tell you how this is received from the woke crowd. And this is kind of for the no agenda listeners. This is kind of dimension a dimension B kind of thing. Okay. So let's say

dimension woke. Dimension, Walt heard this as Jay Z justified police shooting young black men, because they had they raised by single mothers. Yeah. Okay, I can see how they come up with that, of course, it's the people see this movie with different eyes from different dimensions. Correct. And then you have an other side. And just to let everybody know, in my position, I'm a straggler, because I can understand both sides of it. And that's what gives me a unique

perspective. On the other side of is the more conservative black crowd. And they say of course, yes, we heard this in our previous what two shows ago with the Prager, Prager, you Yep. Yes, that they're all about single parenting leads to violence and you know, disarray and these kinds of things. And it's like a one to one correlation, which is also incorrect. So this is where I come in. But what he said is somewhat correct, because when you don't have authority in the

household, and this is where this whole show is gonna go. And we're gonna do some background and to how houses became a single parent, because we touched on the topic, but we never really got in depth on the subject. But before we get into it, I want to go back to one the clips I played before talking about the two dark patterns are two schools of thought driven by think tanks. And that's trick baby. As you liberals who have lifted them up power,

poor, you conservatives make a mistake. You can't afford to strangle hope and people without hope. People will come dangerous. No, how're you liberals have let them invade our society. You give them jobs, political job. Oh, you missed the point. Suddenly, the smart ones we move up? That makes it even worse? No, no, we have to move them up. If we leave a smart one in the ghetto, he might develop into a leader against us. But if we raise him up into white society,

we neutralize it. He feels compelled to try black like us. He loses his identity and his racial anger. If he has the he becomes alien do his brothers. They realize he sold them out and they grow to hate him. He becomes worthless to them and say for us. No thank you. In fact, in his love for the creature comforts except for its color. He's become one of us. Oh, lovely dinner, Mortimer. Always a good time chatting about the black man.

Right. So I played this clip. So you can hear we're Jay Z is big, where people are saying Jay Z is Ed that he's been let into the club. And now he's been neutralized. And he's been. I've said this before, and I don't know if I said it here on this show. But I've said it in my podcast. This is Jay Z taking this deal with the NFL. Is his Bill Cosby poundcake pull up your parents moment. Hey, yeah. For people who don't remember

that God's speech given by Bill Cosby. He was like, yeah, they kill each other that for some pancake or something like that. He was talking really down to the black community. That's how it was perceived, but it had good messaging in it. But the tone and from where it was coming. It sounded very elitist.

Yeah, okay, I'll just kind of fell apart a couple years ago, obviously, right when he needed his community to back him and this is just this goes to, I think this is going to be in compensated a lot of conversation that we had on previous clips. To be protected by the black community, you need to have an overwhelming majority. Just like with voting, you got to have about 80 90% of the black community behind you. Because that makes enough noise to where you can use it as a

tool to protect you either right or wrong. We seen this with our Kelly. We saw this with other other people that it has transgressions, but they can drum up enough support that it makes them a hard target. But as soon as that support is fractured, then you become open game for anybody that wants to take you down. As Jay Z is being done now about the world

community. I don't know what they're surprised about, um, with this clip that he said, Because he said these exact same things and songs as his, over the years, multiple times, but now that you're a target of canceled culture, this is where we're at. But what I want to talk about more is the conditions of a single parent home. And this show how we got

there, how we really got there, like the step by step. And we talked about the no parent in the house, and no man, excuse me, no man in the house and things of that nature, but we never really dug down. And this is a huge problem in the black community. And I think it was even number one on the progress list. If I'm not mistaken, it was top three, at least. But let's get into. So this is a conspiracy to destroy black boys. Um, let me see how the, and this book that was written.

This is something that my both my parents were educators, um, and this book floated around the house, because it was passed around, I think, between black teachers. And I'm gonna get the man's name. I had it in my notes, but boys, I'm doing this on the fly. I was actually already googling this job Kwanzaa can juphal kanji for SEO? Yes, yes. Correct. He wrote two books. There's two volumes to this. And he basically goes, and this was back in 1985.

Tonight, and this clips are from 1987. I think the book was written a couple of years beforehand. Yeah, it looks like 1983 when it first came out. Great. Yeah. So this is at the time when I'm a small boy. And I remember these conversations being had and my parents have used to have these conversations at the dinner table of just like, how we're being raised. And when we say I'm older, I'm the youngest. So

they have the conversation with my older siblings. And I remember the some of the sentiments that were shared in this book. But let's get into our conspiracy to destroy black boys. One, when the economy changed the family structure, there was more than love and these relationships, there was a money about it. Our grandparents worked the fields together, had

economic reasons to stay together. So they did in a factory man Wilson factory woman takes to church economic reason, again, it's played against, but in this new economy, well, you now have women working just as much if not more than men, you now hear women telling me, I don't need you got my old job, do what I want to do when I want to do it. And we're now doing it very well. And by ourselves. Oh, man, that sounds familiar, doesn't it?

Yes, it sounds sounds very familiar. And it's even been more telling in current times where we're at, I think, maybe a fourth iteration of he was talking about from the fields, our culture's industrialization, to now the computers, acute periodization to now I think we're like, maybe at a automation. I think that may be the fourth. Yeah, what we're at now, and we're seeing even more because men don't need women in

men don't mean women don't need men. At this time, because every service that you need for the opposite sex, there's an app for it now. Almost everything, yes. Right. I mean, you got door door, I mean, for guys cooking, cleaning, I mean, not the same thing, but that's what the critical thing is that you need to run a household you can get

those done by third party. And for women, you know, um, you know, take you know, the, you see these handyman apps and, you know, was Angie's List and yeah, sure, so these things are he was saying into the future when he said this. I don't want to belabor the point. Let's get into clip two. Now we have a lot of people making plenty of money and

lonely place money before family. You see black men, where do you go white men do buy their family a house in the suburbs to car and once a year go down to Orlando for disney world vacation. And when black men can't do that, they don't feel they're worthy enough to stay right. And be as as a black man, this is true. We don't want anything different than the average white man or any other man in America, you know, we want the house. The two cars Yeah, the vacation to Disney Of course.

Right? But we you can't provide those things in this capitalistic society. You feel worthless. And when you feel worthless, it's up to the woman to decide if you have any that you're not. So let's listen to clip three, nicely. The problem is there are two responses black women can get to black men went out of work. The first is my son woman says, What if you didn't work and you gotta go? If you ain't working, you got to go. That's the mistake. Because black men

don't hire no fire. No control the means of production. Now, before Black mysteries say That's right, brother, you tell him, please brothers quit assuming that black women took our jobs away. Because black women awesome. Do not hire no fire. We are being played off against each other for some crumbs. That's quite the allegation. So how did you receive it? Well, it's completely as if black men and women are helpless and do not control their destiny.

So this is how I received and that's why I like having this conversation session with you. Because as we seen, you can have one statement received multiple different ways just by perspective, of course, I'll receive that as if you have to have a certain number of black people in office. Say, you know, we talked about affirmative action. This is at 10 13%.

Right? What I want, just speaking from how black people see it, I mean, we always conspiratorial because of the things that have been levied against us throughout the past. So we have a conspiratorial vein in us. So if that 13% was majority men had to be man, because women were in in the workforce in the 50s 60s, you know, saying maybe even up to the early 70s, will you start seeing the same amount of black faces, but less men that's being perceived as the black woman are taking your jobs?

Ah, okay, well, I can understand that I see how that perception would be there, then, who knows, some of it may be true, certainly back in the day when this was playing out. And there's a there's a underlying reason for that, because a black woman is a double minority. What I mean by that is, you kill two birds with one stone because you bring a black woman and you could check the box of a female, you get extra points. And, and a black, black person.

And if she has a hump, I think there's a third, then you get an extra.

Now, this is, so now we see. It's not that, you know, the elite are, you know, whoever's doing the hiring, or whatever are pro black women is just that we can mask ourselves in these double minorities, as we've seen with the NFL had been claimed, we can mask ourselves with a Jay Z. And, you know, dodge, the fact that we're racist or whatever, whatever it is, if you want to be labeled as right, which is which is what we kind of I certainly how I view this deal

with Jay Z is like, okay, just when there's a lot of heat on political supporters of Republicans, specifically Trump, we've had we've had big donors being called out we saw equinox and, and SoulCycle. We saw people getting really upset with the owners because they supported Trump. And my feeling has always been NFL is like, get let's get out ahead of that. And let's bring in Jay Z called Jay Z. Right. And it's super

cynical to think that but Jesus seems so true to him. So if you think that way with Jay Z, why wouldn't people think the same way? And we got to understand that climate we're talking in the early 1980s? Yes, of course, is not that far removed from when you had a workspace of mostly men? Yeah. All right. So we have to look at it in a in a proper time context. But let's go into conspiracies. 2.1,

we can look at some mothers. And I said some not all, the rumor is that some mothers raise their daughters and love their sons, my boy always loved his mom. 40 years of age still at home with you that needs to stop you boys, not yours. He the future husband, a future father, and needs to be raised that way not known historical reason. The historical reason is our society has always tried to destroy black men dimensions. So black mothers always want to over protect their sons. What's the

reason today? Is it because you own black man didn't stay? You now replaced your man with your son. Quick tell him his nine year old boy. They demand a house. Ain't no nine year old boy ready to be no man. Uh huh. You know what sad though? These brothers think, but they can do with their mamas. they can do with a teacher, the coach and everybody else. Oh, yeah. Now, let me just I have some experience with this.

After years of therapy, it's called Emotional blackmail. And it's often not intentional, and it probably is never intentional. Similar to me, where, oh, you're the man about the house now now you got to you got to take care of stuff and take care of me. And it can, it can cause damage down the line. I think so. I think that's very true. So how we got from the first two clips is that first group of clips was to explain

how the man was removed from the home. So now we're at the point where the man's on the house, we've gone over that multiple times before how how the mechanism was used. And we know this comes from governmental decisions to remove the man and we see how it trickles down. Now the woman has the male child standing in the gap for the man that has left the home. Right, and as you says, as you said that they start to put responsibilities on that male child that shouldn't be there

and that male child is also given. free rein are allow what's the word I'm looking for? He was given a abilities or allowances to do whatever he feels, there sees fit privileges. privileges, that's the word I'm looking at. Yeah. So it goes back to Jay Z statement, when he encounters if he's treated as a man or the authority figure at home. And he's not made to be show any respect to authority figures.

When he encounters that police officer, he's he's not gonna have air he's not prepared, he's gonna have the wrong reaction. He's not prepared for that situation. And that is where, where we that's where we're at. So let's just listen to 3.2 interesting with the fathers there. So you something about a black man or father seeing this male does his same size, sitting on his sofa? In the bar food boy, you gotta go see his dog as

long as she wants to see the mother knows a daughter. So the mother, you gotta go to see mothers make the daughters go and violence make the sons go, but when the Father's not there, there's nobody makes us go. Yeah, right on. So this is where we're at. And if you notice, majority of the problems in the black community happened with the black male. Why is that because they don't have the the leadership, the

role models. Now, we saw that in the theme two shows ago when that the black cop was in the community, and he said, You got to give the kids the tough love. Um, and that's what boys need. Your father keeps you in line. He lets you know Life is not fair. As one of my favorite lines of my dad. Life is our affairs where they judge pigs. Yeah, so I gotta tell you, I am happy. You're, you're like 1718 years younger than I am. I'm really happy to hear that

because I grew up with life's not fair. Not my mom was the one who told me that my dad wasn't around much. I hope it's still being said, Because seems like with all the wokeness around us, this may not be something that is repeated the way it used to be. We're gonna see that it's not the game. The game. Always get ahead. Alright, so let's get into 3.1. And we're gonna it's gonna be a great segue. So my point is it blockboard Coming right to you. A black woman? No,

we'll probably have the old black man. I'll be corrected with your son, saying, You know what the problems are the black men, your little son. That's somebody else's says. All what you know, needs to be done. Put that into his. Right. So if we've been a matriarchal society from maybe let's see the late to mid the mid to late 70s. Let's just say that fair. That's when it became, you know, 50% or more majority. Why hasn't? Why haven't women create demand the

men, their daughters will love to marry? I don't think it's a fair ask to start off with. I think there's I'm not sure that women can do that. I don't know if that's the way nature works. Even I think I agree with you. But if you say, Ah, okay, if you go back to Jay Z's statement, and what he said about single parent warming, you know, can't raise a man. We've said this multiple times before. This is the pushback that he got, what do you mean? What do you mean? Oh, a woman can't raise a man,

you know? So there's this fallacy? Well, yeah, okay, I totally understand what you're saying that. And this is a part of woke culture, where we're all completely equal the same, there's no difference. Exactly. And, and that is just emphatically not true. There's, there's no, I helped raise a daughter. But you know, if I was only me, I would don't think I would succeed the way it would work with two with a two parent household or maybe with just a

mom, I don't know. But I it's yeah, the woke, the woke crowd will say, of course, you can do that. And I think nature might tell us something different. It tells us very loud and clear, but we ignore what it tells us. And we keep repeating the same mistakes over and over again. And what did they call that? That's called insanity. That's right, by definition. You make a great point, I grew up in a house with two other brothers, my father and my mother, no

sisters. So now having three daughters I'm lost. Right? And if it was just if it was just me, and we need to start having this conversation and always blame the women blame the men, no men and women have roles and responsibilities. And they're, they're exclusive to either sex. When it comes my daughter's I am completely lost. Completely. I'm sure you're not completely lost. But I feel Yeah. Trust me. It's like, I need an interpreter for my wife to like,

what does that mean? Like my little, little anecdote, you know, but my oldest daughter, which is she'll be 16. October can come walking in. And my wife can read from her mood, what's going on? I didn't see her walking across the room. I hear you. My wife was saying something's wrong. That's that secret female code has nothing to do with age. I agree. That goes to show you I have a deficiency, but I accept that deficiency. And I have to defer. So my wife the same way with

young boys. You can't tell them everything is going to be all right. And life is fair. Everybody gets trophies. You know, we've seen this with the trophy culture. No, life has winners. It has losers. But you do have a win. If you gave it your all. And losers can win. Yeah, of course. Right and lose it. So there's nuance there. But now we fast forward. Madame noir, which is a popular website for black women. And in my my viewpoint, it propagates a lot of liberal slash feminist

ideology. And let's listen to them raising black boys. That's, that's an important answer. Both of you guys just talked about legacy. And the future. Did you all plan to be mothers? Absolutely not. Say No, I was a teacher. I'm a teacher. And I think that was my philosophy is I'm a teacher, so I don't have to have kids. I'll take care of other people's kids. Okay. So like, that was

never my mission to be somebody's mother. Because that's, like, so much more intense, because there's so much more responsibility because they're mine now, so I really can't mess it up. I don't think anyone plans to be a mother a parent. You You're never prepared for that. Like, nothing can prepare you for it. There's no book No book we have ever. Okay, I agree with some of what I heard though.

Bush, you heard twice in this clip. Okay, let me let me I did a poor job sitting to clip up. So this is a panel discussion. It's like six women on the panel. The moderator is a man. And he's asking questions about raising children, black boys specifically. And you heard twice in this clip. No one, not some people. This is their mindset that No one plans to have children. Yeah, no, I disagree with that.

No, but it was said twice. And out of six people and the moderator nobody pushed back against the actually they you know if you saw the video, they were like, yeah, like, well, this begs the question, do you feel that there's much less family planning going on? Yes. And just whatever happens happens. Is that what it is, I think that is a lot too. Do with it. My problem and the

reason why I clipped this was the acceptance of that. This is from this is a clip from 2018. You will think, where if a problem if you think in single parent households play black women at a 75% rate hit rate, correct? Right. You would think that will be the most sensitive to play out planning parenthood

planning, planning? parenthood? Yeah. And I would and I would say because it was a panel if it if it only been said once and people glossed over to be like, okay, in soccer, all right, but twice, yes, I want you to put their hand up twice, and then six people, nobody pushed back against it. And to say no one. They didn't say like a lot of people or, you know, majority, No one plans. So that was very troubling to me. So let's get into just so happens.

So like, when I was pregnant with my first son, I never forget that the CEO of my school, her first words to me were, oh, but you're not married? And what kind of role model is that, you know, for for your students? Right. She tried it. And, and I had explained to her like, you know, I'm not married, but that does not negate like the woman that I am or the man he is in the family that we're about to create. It just so happens that this happened first.

out of wedlock, which I have no issue with. My concern is she said this, let's be clear. These are six professional women. So these women are educated, accomplished. And she says, okay, just just to break down a clip a little bit. She says the CEO her school, which I'm think she means principal. Yeah. But that may be a new term for Bravo school. I don't know what kind of school system Yeah, right, what kind of school that was, but comes to her and say, you know, we look to you to be some

kind of role model to the kids. So how does that gonna be perceived? As she pushes back like, oh, yeah, she tried that with me. Right? Yeah. Which was weird. Well, she goes is the thing. Otherwise, she wouldn't have said it that way. Right. So but what gets me is that you say you didn't from the previous clip, she was one of the women that says No one plans this. Your appear and your supervisor come to you and say,

oh, so Aren't you a little worried? I mean, I you say you catch the attitude back saying, Who are you to say this to me? What are you gonna say? It just so happens? Right? Right. Right, right. So what I'm saying is we create this environment. This thing, she got a chip on her shoulder about it. So it's a privileged thing, that certain people are above reproach. I know I made a and I hate using this word, I made an unplanned event. I say, well, well put, diplomat you are?

I'm navigating the waters. We won't tell you kids which one? Right? So you made an unplanned event appear? And maybe I guess maybe they're older or more, they seem to be more. As I know, maybe I'm just assuming here asking you like what's going on? Did you think this thing through? And let's be clear, women have a bunch of options, pre and post conception. If you don't feel like it's no the right time or whatever, you have a bunch of measures, but that's not here today. I don't like

going and getting into that conversation. But this person says they're up above reproach, like, No, you can't ask me that, you know, we're just gonna play it by ear, you know, see and see what happens. And these are how a lot of these single parent households begin. Which I just find a little bit troubling. Well, it's now I can't say that I have listened to the same types of conversation from white women. It may be very similar. I don't know.

I think it is very similar. And I think this is where you get the the pro the big, pro choice push from because no one's planning it. I don't think this is exclusive to any community. I think this is a cultural thing of the day. Right? It's a it's a it's a generational thing. And it's been, you know, this we're probably in the second or third

generation, maybe more All of this being acceptable. And we have ways of, you know, cleaning up our mistakes, if you know if that's the word you want to use, and I try to avoid using that word, but this is where we're at. And so the conversation between these women further, and it's not like they don't know, the systematic plans that we discussed on the show previously.

Well, speaking about children and family units, you know, studies come out, they say, there are more single black moms in this country than any other race. When it comes down to it, I believe that in a certain sense, black people as a whole were aligned for family units to be

divided. And I think that was done in a systemic way. I believe that, you know, they created certain systems to enable the women to feel that they did not have a need for the men and in turn, it caused, you know, a lack of worth for the black man and he's very needed, you know, he is someone who is valuable he is someone who needs to be in the home or that your young men need to look up to but I feel that systemically we were programmed to feel that, you know, we can do this without

them, vice versa, things like that. And it's unfortunate because it's not accurate information, in my opinion. Oh, thank goodness, someone with half a brain on the panel. And they were all saying yeah, yes. So they're aware. It's not that we don't know the things I discussed in the show may be new to some people but in our community, we know that there has been things set up because they're common barbershop Beauty

Shop discussions. So we know and I just wanted to let people out I just wanted to show that clip to say these people are not oblivious to the systematic plans of you know no man house and things and welfare culture and things of that nature where they still fall in the same traps that are set up and I don't understand why maybe it's because due to privilege you don't have to do any self reflecting okay, I'm sure you

equivocal or equivalent to black men. We know high blood pressure is one of the deadliest thing for black men right? I guess I'm not aware of it is I mean are Calm down man mo calm down. So salt is seeing in the black community as a deadly deadly he was saying you have a PSA yet started salts gonna kill you, man. Your pressure man. US Oh, you see this corrective behavior or mindset between men because it's like, Hey, man, it assaults gonna kill you. But it's everything of responsibility.

But when you have a whole system set up to make people not have responsibility, because it benefits the system that set it up that human nature hardest. Yeah. That's the hardest thing to compete. I mean to incorrect, compete with it correct. Let's go on to the hardest thing. What do you think the hardest thing is to do as a mom? In 2017? Parenting? What are the things you're worried about the most raising black children? That I have boys? I have two boys. Two boys, and how do I

like prepare them for that life? Yes, we're flooded the stress. And and there's a lot of stress that I don't know, as a woman. Yeah, because we have stressed but we also can navigate circles a little bit better, because the women because we're like, I don't? How do I prepare? You know, for those moments when he comes home and something has gone awry in the street and he doesn't know how to deal with it. Right? Or? Wow, it's full of contradictions this panel.

Thank you. I'm glad you realize that and it's like I was listening to this thing. Like you know what the problems are. But you continue to fall form. Yeah, and imagine a young black boy growing up with this kind of chaos. I can't say any other word is mental chaos. And there's a reason for that and we're gonna get to the it's gone. Let me Disclaimer, disclaimer, I need a disclaimer. This is not a beat up on a

certain segment of society. Show Well, I'm laying this all out and as you know, always come back around at the end, and we get the full picture. But it's hanging there with me. Just saying that right. People that may read they click the stop button or the skip button is hanging out with me. misogynist mo on the microphone. I got three daughters. Oh, no, that doesn't count my friend. My best friends are female. Africans are female. Some of my best friends are female.

Female. Alright, so raising black boys fear, it's hard to let them be free. When we're fearful, right? Yeah. Because you know, cuz my best friend, she said like that boy be free. Yeah, he wants take off his shoes, I don't think it's hard like for them to be free, like, when we're a little fearful and I think that's the, that's the tension of like, I want them to grow. I want them to explore and try stuff out. But like, I'm, I'm a little scared.

Wow. Okay. So imagine you have a rambunctious boy that wants to be a boy. And you have nothing but this fearful fear. Energy, which, I mean, this is perception, this perception, but I think women may be more fearful, out of survival mechanism, you know, just through throughout, you know, time, you know, they have to be more concerned in that thing. And you have the, that's how I was saying before about my wife,

her antennas are always up, right? And what I do is come in and I calm like, oh, it's gonna, you know, it's gonna be it's gonna be alright, you know, are, you know, you kind of put yourself between, um, between them and the threat. And I think that's what men not to horn here. But I think that's the function of us. And maybe that's why we die earlier. I don't know. But we're always putting ourselves between the threat and

the fear. If your wife hears a knock at night, you're the one that gets up and goes, inspects the knock, knock her antennas up, but you respond. And I just just have something that I just did just think that's how that works. But we hear this thing called fear comes up and later on the clip was too long to clip but the talk yeah, comes up. Now, Adam, I know, maybe you may be aware of the talk. Can you tell me what that is?

Yes. The talk, as far as I'm aware, is when? And I think it's typically the parents, but it may just be the father or the mother. But whoever the authority figure is, sets the young man down. And I don't know if it's just men, I think, certainly it would have to be and says, Alright, here's how you're going to be perceived in the world. Here's what it's like to be black when you encounter. The top one, of course, is when you encounter the police. Here's how you act hands on top of the

steering wheel. Yes, sir. Yes, officer, you be polite, because that will keep you alive. I'm summarizing, but I'm pretty sure that's about right. And you can see how this aligns back to the the cause of this conversation, the Jay Z statement of what if that talk is not had. So what here's the two option you have, as he was saying, as a majority of black men raise and a female dominated

household, either you're going to be extremely feel fearful. Or you have no respect for authority, and I know there's a lot of gray in between that black and white. But that is you're really left with either you don't respect the authority and you're saying you're going to combat it, or are you going to be so fearful that you live a life of anxiety? Um, ah, inferiority, mental anguish and things of that nature. And this is a very that's why you need that calming energy. My dad had

Okay, let's get into a fast forward. But so we seen companies like Procter and Gamble. Yeah, I've seen this one. I make study of these types of commercials. So I know what's coming next. I don't know how they sell soap or Clorox. But Procter and Gamble the talk who said that good lady at the store. That is not a compliment. Listen, it's an ugly nasty word. And you are going to hear it. Nothing I can do about that. But you are not going to let that word hurt you. Hear me?

There some people who think you don't deserve the same privileges just because of what you get. is not fair. It's not remember, you can do anything make a difference is you got to work twice as hard and be twice as smart. come straight home and practice. God Okay, stop how's your rear view? Mirror? Good, good. Okay, good. Now, when you get pulled over, I'm a good driver. Don't worry, it's not about you

getting a ticket. It's about you not coming home. I'm gonna be okay one of the many things I love about doing the show with you Mo is even though I've seen this commercial I've studied with Procter and Gamble is doing. You have ripped yet another layer of some kind of crap across my eyes and like hole man, I didn't even realize it was a mom, I think talking to

her daughter. Hmm. So could not be any further from perhaps the actual talk as as I've heard of it, a father and a son or parents in the sun. And what was missing from that commercial dad? Not a single one in the whole two minute commercial. Wow. stunning, stunning. Yeah, let that sink in and that they are eight moms maybe in the commercial just by percentages. You should at least have two dads. Oh, wow. At least one not a single dad. And not a single one.

You know, what would I you know, coming from the advertising industry. I think the reason why you're seeing that in this commercial is first of all, just like Gillette, I think these companies are full of shit. They want to sell so but they want to sell razor blades or whatever. Who does the shopping. It's the mom. So they're targeting moms. They're not targeting any goodness, they're targeting moms. And that's what it is trauma base advertising. Oh, it's what it is.

Does that is that already been that's a good one trauma base TBA baby? Yes, that is that what we have trauma based entertainment as he's 12 years of slave the show all these movies coming out. But now we're starting to cross over into the entertainment to the advertisement through exploitation. So as you're saying, The Father is missing. So we're gonna go back to one last clip from the mountain war panel, engage.

I want to say that black men, they need to engage, engage with your children, not only like, take them to the movies know engage, like play. Enjoy your children, no matter what the circumstances are. Enjoy your children. Because that's what they remember. Okay. They remember you playing basketball with them. They remember you riding bikes with them. They remember that and it sticks with them. Engage in joy, your children. Yes, I agree. So so now you have a mother telling a father how to

be a father. You're not doing it right? No, I'm not. Right. But the problem with that is and it's very seldom talked about fathers are second class citizens or second class parents in this country now and I just want to want to pause there in our country indeed this is because I'm a student of advertising every single especially if it's a white guy that's even better every single

ad where there's a dad he's always a doofus. He's a numb nut he got the wrong shopping list he didn't do it right he bought the wrong cars got the wrong clothes on. That is a cultural thing across the board that's been going on for years now. It is if you look at modern family it's still another fantastic example. But that is that is propaganda people don't understand these television shows just like I was brought up before about I'm married with children that shaped the culture for that

time. Dad was useless shoe salesman. Now you fourth fast forward now dad like said dads. Yes. The dads basically ate that idiot ATM you know he just kicks out in the money and if you know but you know why he has to be that way and that's a great I'm glad you brought that we see Allah we do this is because fathers don't have any rights in this country. And a woman can have removed from the household for any reason whatsoever. Anytime separates you from the children for no reason at all.

That's why the dad has to be such a pansy. Yes, I want to use another word but I mean Yeah, yeah. And I'll tell you that, certainly when it comes to divorce and separation, and Europe is worse they are, in fact, they are so much evolved. They're way ahead of us on that. And the dad is automatically pretty much the loser, you got to prove that you're not. Yeah, it's cultural across the board.

And I blame advertising on and, and I'll just put television entertainment in the advertising category there. Alright, let's get into second class parents. Do you have a child who says yes, that's not your child. Okay, just to say that Trump is both of yours. So either you take the child or he takes the child, he's the father, no less than you are the mother. So he told me he was going to take awhile with him at 130 in the morning, I had to go second,

just a second. So he said, If I'm going to leave my house, if you told me to leave the house, I'm gonna take my daughter with me, even though I have sole legal custody. No, no. At that point, are you telling me what a court order giving you legal custody of your child? The answer is no, you know. So at that point, you have mother case, the Father, He has as much right to take that child as you to. That's how I've been told. Well, if you've gotten different advice, you will mistake it's

okay. In this country. Fathers are not second class citizens. I know there are a lot of people out there, including judges and probation officers who still don't get that message. But fathers are not second class citizens. Sometimes they're actually better parents. Not all wins. Sometimes it's 5060. But it's on a case by case basis. But anybody that says to me can take my daughter with him. It's not the worst of yours. You made her. Oh, man, there's so much about this versus Judge Judy. Right?

Yes. Judge Judy. St. Judge, Judy? Well, I got it, I gotta tell you a couple things. First of all, the child is always yours. When the child has done something shitty. It's like your daughter has done this and that. And that's, that's universal. And nice. I think I would still get that if my, my kids are small enough to be in that much trouble. Second, when I was in college for all three months, in West Virginia. Ty Hamilton was my roommate. And there's there's

three things that his because we all hang out. We're in the same dorm room. Three things we'd watch on television, and his buddies came over and did all black. I have to mention that. Football, of course, basketball wants out his sports. Let's put it that way. Golden Girls, and Judge Judy. And I was like, Wow, you really liked like the show, Judge Judy being favored amongst black men. I know if that was just that time. Wow, maybe cuz she's fair.

She She's fair. And that's all we asked for. It's fair, even though it doesn't exist. But I mean, she's one that it can be. But I use this clip to illustrate that the privilege the privilege the mother felt in this case, what why is my daughter? She said it? I have so joint custody and judge you like wait a minute. Have you went before a judge and got that in right now? Yeah, but I have sold joint custody. Wow. And so called

cultural misunderstanding. You take that mindset. And the you multiply it by a group of people that haven't gotten the most fair shakes with the justice system, right. And now you see, a lot of I know a lot of people that have been through family court. And your best case scenario, best case is that you pay a chunk of your salary out and we're going to discuss how that's calculated a little later on. And you get two days out every 14 Yeah, it seems so standard. Yeah.

So to go back, the woman's like, engage, engage with your child, how can I engage when you? No, no, marginalize me to being a 14, you know, one to two days out of every 14 day parent. And you use the court system family court system as a weapon. Now, I am not a white supremacist see denier. And the reason why I say I'm not is this is a clear case. There appears to be white supremacy. So do explain. Now we go back to man in the house law,

correct. Man the house law. This has been the tool so further and I use is where before marginalize dads in general. But when you have dads that fall below the poverty line, they can't hire good lawyers to fight for their rights in court. Black and brown men don't get a fair shot or a just shot in family

court. Well, so when you say white supremacy, you imply that there may be a misunderstanding, but you imply that there is a systematic plot to disenfranchise black men, and I personally think it's poor men. It may have come from black men. But you think that that is still alive and well today and it's being done specifically for someone's color? Someone's colored, okay. If I want to and the thing is, here's the thing, I think about white supremacy. I think it's about

maintaining rulership. And this is about elite. It doesn't have to do with every white person. And that's, that's the thing. All our conversation has been about the elite, the conversation about between the two men of how to handle the black race, we're between the elite. Okay, I got you, I'm with you. So that's why it's not. That's why you had to be very careful with those word white supremacy because it's about people that's

in rulership, maintain your rulership. And what is the predominant race of people in rulership? White? That's my point. I'm not saying it's the monks all white. Well, let me let me let me let me approach it from a different direction just to get some context. Okay. And thank you for, for going into that. I would say if you look at the black population, as a voting bloc to be controlled, or black women as a force that you want to control, then yes, I think

that is absolutely in play. And it's we see it in play today with the current people who are running for the Democratic nominee, and and others. I mean, it's it's all over the spectrum. From that regard, then I would say, yeah, everything is being done to control the black population to maintain their voting bloc at status quo. Right. And I want to be clear on what I'm saying here, the motive is to maintain rulership Yes. So we have to do these things to

maintain it. It's not like it's a racial cabal of like, you're saying that all spectrums of economic background, now there's like, oh, we might have some friendly fire some calories a white men fall to a family court. But so be it. I think that's how they elite think that's just my personal opinion. Um, well, I guess the only reason I'm saying is I know plenty of white families and white guys who have been in similar situations poverty was

really was really the issue. That's why I'm like, Okay, why would someone if you're just saying, okay, here are the blocks, here's black people, these poor black people, these poor white people, here's women, here's men, and from an elite standard up at the top, I'm looking at you, George Soros, I would want to control all those people one way or the other, no matter what it takes. And, you know, I got a funny and and this, this is just my

personal viewpoint and opinion, this is this is a opinion. I think that elite Likud poor white people who say, Hey, you had all the benefits and you can't make it work. You don't deserve it. You don't deserve to live. And we've seen this how they look, the eugenics eugenics wasn't across color lines. No, it was. So like I said it you may have some casualties of of

the same race. But I think that they look at as as a wheeling, or, you know, as a no way to get rid of the bottom in their own race, and that we got it kind of getting off topic, but I just want to show you that. When people they use that word so loosely that now it just has no effect. But those two gentlemen having that conversation, the clip we played before, even though it's in a fictional movie, that is a form of supremacy.

No, that was 100% supremacy, and says oh, yes, and I will. It will usually throw in the white supremacy threw me off a little bit and Um, because I know I know I know I know but I and I understand what you're saying and it has only been about 50 years since eugenics was alive and well and and recognized as such and was specifically targeted at Africans that's the that's even how they spoke about it the dumb Africans running around we got to control them so to think that that legacy went

away and 50 years would be stupid so yeah not only Africans because poor whites in the South were judged by the saints I mean, they said the I'm just talking about what a rabbit Mark

Well saying they said the IQ to say this is the line Yeah. Under it, you know, we'll set the testing methods and if for some odd people, you know, it's for the greater good and like I said, I don't want to segue off into that but I'm just telling you to me if you want to use that word that's the the terms not in the terms that we think of in pop culture. If you want to talk about white supremacy that's your that's your shining example.

Yes, that's that's the point I was making that out. This is one of the cases where words have changed definitions like racist or yeah, that almost means nothing anymore. Yeah, it's it's want to make sure that this is this will be the picture and the definition if you want to define something that way, but let's just get let's get back on track and see this privilege and an action in joint custody gone wrong. This is a little bit of long clip but it's important no hate each other's guts.

It's all nice lovey dovey on everybody else either you saying anything negative about your borrow or your little trip to the dark Cafe breakfast table and there is no shade last week that you have withheld that little warning no don't even look to the dark admin branch today day you say wonderful work that never she's got a technical writer Madison's we get them set up this whole year to catch the Deadpool letter Matt not gonna show you guys okay, better at

random back when I told you I never thought he will say he got way out. You're gonna retire Yogi MetroTech from lucky and if you're ready to purchase packages about child joint custody This is a screen once you guys are doing. Yeah, that was hard to listen to. Like, I want to, I want to set that up a little better. So just to give people what was going on there. You have to a wife and a husband going through a joint custody hearing. And this is in my

hometown of Durham, North Carolina. It was funny though, I thought was cloud white. Wow. And you see, she had no respect for the judge. And he told her if you have any content and just to give a little background, he was like you gotta know if any of you guys say anything, you know, I'm gonna find that you can see him you're gonna do 24 hours and you're saying in jail. And the gentleman's like the lawyer for the guy said yes. And he said yes. And then by the females lawyer said, No, tell

her say yes. And she was lying. But yeah. And soon as you know, she was losing control of the the apparatus that was set up for her to have the power and control over the family and the man. You saw her go apeshit excuse language. Yep. Even though she was gonna go to jail and Sony that just said joint custody. Yeah, she went on when she lost it. Yeah. So you It was a privilege possessives thing. It is a privilege. Yep, it's a privilege, and nine times out of

10. The ruins come out in their favor. But I think judges are getting more aware. And also the child support system is becoming more aware because our recalculations are being done. So let's get into changes to the Illinois child support, child support will be based upon a percentage of that parents net

income. And depending upon how many children support was being paid for, the percentage would go up, for example, it would be 20% of that parents net income for one child 28% for two children 32% For three children 40% For for children and on up. And it did not take into consideration the income that the custodial parent made. Illinois was in the minority.

And I have not checked to see for sure how many states have gone to income share, but I think 40 of the 50 somewhere in that area use an income share model, which is what Illinois now is using since July 1 of this year. under that system,

child support is calculated. Looking at the income the net income of both parents, and there's a chart that is used to determine what a child should receive by way of support from parent a making X number of dollars and parent be making X number of dollars and then you determine what that joint support obligation should be. And then that obligation is divided between the parents based upon their relative

income. So if you've got a parent that makes 40% of their total net income, and the other parent making 60% of their total net income, that support obligation would be paid by 40% by one parent 60% by the other. And it is felt to be fair, because it's based upon both parents incomes as opposed to just the non custodial parents. So it's a head scratcher that that wasn't already the case. And also later in the clip, how much the child spends with each

parent factors into it as well. But that was just wasn't Klippel clippable. To include that you were saying? little caveat. So now you see when you have joint custody means equal burden, equal equal burden. So there's no monetary benefit. You have no control of a child timewise. And we've seen this in my community, the black community, that child support has been used as a weapon against the black man. Yeah. So this is a popular YouTuber, Dominica, Marie, and she discusses that point. Look,

child support should not be used as a weapon. Child support is exactly that money that is utilized to support the child, not money that is held over somebody's head, that doesn't want to be with you anymore. Not money that is used to hold somebody hostage in a dead end relationship, not money that is being taken away from somebody that is already financially and

physically contributing to their child's life. So please, can we grow the hell up and stop using our children as pawns and child support as some sort of insurance policy, scare tactic and financial weapon? If I may, from personal experience, when I got divorced, our daughter was 18 but she was still living at home. The system that jumped into play with my ex wife was immediately he's going

to pay for everything we're going to clean him out. Hmm. And all of that was through and it was the lawyer lawyers were all over that pushing, pushing, and actually made the whole process much worse than it ever had to be. That's case in point. But as she said, when you have a scorned woman, and she's been with us she's made aware of what our rights and privileges are. Or she has she has perceived what her rights and privileges are.

Right? She can use it as leverage against the man. Yes, they use the child as leverage against the man and we seen that in recent news story with a powerful a basketball player named DeMarcus Cousins. Now, he makes more than enough money. So money is not an issue to him to pay child support. But visitation is also a part of this and the child being withheld. So let's look at our former warrior centered DeMarcus Cousins, former Deathstar. Demarcus Cousins and a bit of hot water tonight.

That's why he's accused of threatening to shoot the mother of his child. Our Elizabeth cook in the newsroom. She has the latest for us, Liz. Yeah, can Veronica The NBA is investigating these allegations against against DeMarcus Cousins the all star Lakers center is accused of threatening his ex girlfriend during an argument about whether his son should attend his wedding. And the ex girlfriend says she has the audio to prove it. Because no, he's not coming.

No cousins allegedly made the threats over the phone on Friday, one day before his wedding. Now according to court documents obtained by ESPN, because his ex girlfriend is seeking a restraining order against him. In addition to the threats made in the leaked audio, she alleges that cousins had previously choked her. So I'm not defending DeMarcus Cousins or his actions or anything. I'm trying to use this as an educational point here. Now background on DeMarcus Cousins. He has had to dramatic

injuries back to back years. That has been impacted his earning capability. He was set aside and some god ungodly amount of money maybe 150 to $200 million contract, right. But before he signs it, he blows out his Achilles. Yeah, he fights through that. He comes back the next year he signs a small little small deal. Then he blows out his ACL. Just to put you in the mental state of what a person is going through, right. So then he has he wants his son to come to his wedding

of another woman that he's marrying. And the mother says now he can't come. Just giving background because when you hear these stories, you don't get their perspective. Just to give some further black background, not only to DeMarcus Cousins take care his child he's a very giving person to other children as well. New at nine tonight 100 local children got the shop till they dropped in mobiele tonight, and it's all thanks to NBA star DeMarcus Cousins. He put on his seventh annual Santa cause

holiday shopping spree. styler finger does live in the newsroom tonight with Tyler great fantastic day for the children who enjoyed it yes, the these kids from five mobile elementary schools were given 200 bucks and Target gift cards so they could shop for the holidays. The ones we talked with say they got a lot of good gifts. So I'm just illustrating you gotta got going through a life

changing traumatic experiences. monetary loss. He has a background of being not only giving to his child but other children seven years running. He's done this donation thing, right? Yep. But he's want his mother whose child is withholding his child from coming to the wedding but he's about to marry another woman. Yeah, that's it's what? It's what happens in divorces across the board

children are weaponized in this. And the reason why I'm bringing this up is not defense DeMarcus Cousins, but I am highlighting how the family court system is setting women up to be harmed by men that are put through such mental anguish that they can lose that they can lose the you you can go search on YouTube Google man shoots woman after custody hearing man shoot, you know, you see it over and over again. But

it's like the prescription drug thing. It's like Oh, just a crazy man that shot his girlfriend or ex wife for mother's child. They never get to the root root cause of what it is. And I'm saying this to say this to protect women. You're giving them a perceived privilege or leveraging to over men which is very dangerous to do that's very dangerous to a man especially a man that loves his kids. If you're saying you

know you never see your kid again. You don't know what that does to a man's mental state and mental health and his country as we see him end up and violent acts over and over again but we never look at the trigger and see how we can resolve the

trigger for even happening. That's why I put brought this up not to be a defensive anybody because First of all, you should always maintain your cool and I say to men and second of all we in this, you have to expect this, like you said, going through a divorce, you gotta expect these things to happen. So never lose your cool, control what you can control. Now fast forwarding to you. Now you may have asked, How did this situation of single parenthood in the black community happen?

We've looked at one side of it from being pushed down through no man in the house. But there's also a marriage between feminism and civil rights movement. Feminism, when when feminism arose in the 1960s, it was different for women of every kind, because women never thought of themselves. These white women, as a particularly disadvantaged group, as far as black women were concerned, the overlap between the women's movement and the Africa and the,

and the civil rights movement caused some confusion. Black people were trying to get their arms around what it meant to bring change in this country. And here come a large group, a much larger group, who are not necessarily black, in fact,

we're White, who are trying to do the same thing. And it really took some leadership on the part of some black women and they ought to be understood, who understood they were both black and women, it took that kind of leadership to to engage this community, this confusion to understand this confusion, but to deal with this confusion within the community, you know, when when a straight out civil rights activist, leader of the women's movement like Gloria Steinem, this gorgeous white

woman, you know, comes forward and talks about feminism. She is She is still the very best, but it is very hard for black women to identify with her initially. I have to disclaim here I've met Eleanor Holmes, the non voting representative from the District of Columbia. I've observed her I find her to be an incredibly dishonest followship person, but that has no bearing on what she said here. But I'm no fan of Eleanor Holmes.

So yes, that's our representative Eleanor Holmes Norton, as she's speaking on how the civil rights movement was hijacked. Basically, and you heard her used by the feminist movement, and you heard her use the word confusion, confusion, and that was steered by one and only Gloria Steinem. Adam, what can you tell us about Gloria Steinem first of all my mom loved her which is coming up right now is is doing all kinds of stuff in my brain

as as the My Mom Yeah. As the mama reason why I say that Mama and we I came from a very weird background not interrupt you but just the cosine what you're saying. My mom was a bra burning. Now, feminists of that time she she fell into the arm propaganda that was being put forward but continue with your point. Well, I'm just trying to think back because you know, when I think of Stein and I think of you know, Jane Fonda I was

pretty young. But I just remember I mean, I've she doesn't I'm not getting much trying to recall other than my mom was totally into her. I could feel the tension around that. But no, I don't have much I of course, no, she who she who she is what she represented, but I don't have some issues. She was a big time proponent for fifth feminism at the time, of course. And also, she empowered Alice Walker. For the people

that know who don't know who Alice Walker is. She's most famous for writing the book The Color Purple. Oh, of course. Of course. Of course. Her writing is activism and her activism is writing so it's there's really as as as it's not possible to separate Alice from

her work. She's of anybody I can know I've ever known I could possibly imagine she's the most true you know, she I mean, when people used to ask me in the early days, what is Alice Walker really like I always said, She's exactly like you think, you know there is not a private self and a Public Self. Now, the reason why I say my mom loved Gloria Steinem is because Alice Walker gave her her cosign to the black

community. Or you hit Get looking at another way, Gloria Steinem and power Alice Walker to be coming to personally she was on the level that she was into N O. N, in the public eye. So as I said before Alice Walker she's most famous for writing Color Purple. When I first saw Color Purple as a young you know, child, I mean, to be honest with you, that movie was shown to young children, because it was one of the preeminent Black movies of Jesus from the storytelling and it was done by

Steven Spielberg. And you know, you had never seen a black movie done on that level. I think it was really cutting edge at that time. We just watched this cinematography and know just what it was. I was great movie of course. But when I go back and watch it with my adult eyes, it was very man hating and I know that term is thrown around by the MiG tau community and these things not anti feminist community. But the reason why I say that is there is not a single positive black male

figure in that movie right at all. Either they were childhood abusers pedophiles all the top 10 Yeah. Domestic violence, rape. Kidnappers I mean, my exact call. Yeah. So like I said, and when I watched this movie now with my adult eyes, I'm like Jesus Christ. Is trauma based. Yeah. Entertainment, entertainment. Yeah. I'm talking about women watch this thing all repeatedly. I mean, you know, even to today, you know, they I mean, you can quote that thing. In my community, you can quote it line

for line. And that's how successful propaganda is. Now with that says, Alice Walker. Hard. Her daughter came out and did an interview and Daily Mail. And just a couple of quotes from the interview. She said, You see, my mom taught me that children and slave women. I grew up believing that children are millstone around your neck. And the idea that motherhood can make you blissfully happy is is a complete fairy tale. No choice

drives, this is how this woman propagandize her own child. Wow, another quote, my mother's feminine feminist principle colored every aspect of my life. As a little girl, I wasn't even allowed to play with dolls or stuffed toys in case they brought out i maternal instinct. Wow. These are quotes from Alice's Walker's daughter. And like you said, and when you if you go back to that clip, Gloria Steinem said, well, there was only one Alice Walker. So she, however she was in the media.

She was in private. She was that way in private. Another quote from her daughter. It was drummed into me that being a mother raising children and running a home were a form of slavery. Can you see how this was played out in her work per color? Purple? Oh, yeah. That was given to the world and propagandize my community. I'm saying and still, it still comes on BT women BT l almost every other Saturday. final quote, well, my mother may ask me, my mother may be revered by women

around the world. Goodness knows. Many even have shrines to her by honestly believe it's time to puncture the myth and to reveal what life was really like growing up as a child of the Feminist Revolution really puts a whole new puts Oprah in a whole new light in in his projects, who has no children. Right. So now we see how these things keep getting pushed forward. And if you ask any black feminist about Alice Walker, she would have the same way that Gandhi you know, it

doesn't matter. Right, like we've talked about before these icons, it's not about what they who they truly were, how many this is her daughter saying this, this is not some, you know, as well. I always like to use quotes of people that are our will be seen as fair and balanced. I don't like to use

extremists quotes from one side or the other. But now back to Gloria Steinem and Gloria Steinem had a very interesting beginning clip 24 Gloria at the festival, you worked for the independent research service. Well, exactly when did your own association with the CIA

starred? In what fashion they come to you to do that? In 1958, when I came home from from India, I discussed with student leaders past and present, many of them active with the National Student Association, this kind of small foundation to encourage Americans to go, they thought it was a good idea to I was then told by foundations and professors and friends, that it that I should not do this, that I would get in trouble with house on American Activities Committee, the American Legion,

all of those 50s people. And I became convinced that it was impossible. It was at that point that the student leaders said to me that they had in the past received funds for international programs from the CIA, and that they felt that this was important and could also be partly funded by the CIA. And there we go, Hello, spooks.

Now, now we know about Cohen's work on COINTELPRO. We've seen how think tanks in government agencies had infiltrated movements as before, why would I not believe Gloria Steinem was sent in to destabilize the movement that was going on called the civil rights movement? Well, why would I not believe that? Now I can say I have a conspiratorial vein in me. But when I hear this, and you hear Alice Walker, and you hear how she was put up and propped up wild, I would not

believe this. But let's listen to clip to particular points of view to put forward which would have been much, much more restricting than then the CIA funds were which were free. I mean, no one was told what to say. I mean, they were free. You mean to say it was easier for you to work for the CIA than a private? That's right. That's right. And and the reason I think that comes as a surprise, if it did to me at the time, I mean, I had the conventional liberals view of the CIA as a right wing

incendiary group. And I was amazed to discover that this was far from the case that they were enlightened, liberal, nonpartisan, activists of the sort who characterized the Kennedy administration, for instance. I didn't know this, actually, this is good.

So I don't know what to say. I mean, to be honest with you, we have to look at to see was this person sent to bring this message to destabilize not only the black community, I've always said on the show, the black community are just the first to feel Arts is show the symptoms, what affects the greater population later, you know, we don't have that cushion, right. So when you see things like drug epidemics, or, you know, propaganda being pushed forward, it always hits us first.

Whenever recessions happen, they always hit us first. But we don't have that, you know, the cushion to protect us. But it goes on to impact everybody. There's not tied in with the elite. Now, the only problem I have with this, and it's only lightly touched on in her on her Wikipedia page, for good reason, probably is the CIA is really not allowed to do these types of things on US soil. You know, that's really not their

jurisdiction. So I'm just curious to know, and I'll have to look into this more to see you. Go ahead. When I say these things, it's just like, I think you make connections with people with the movers and shakers. I'm not saying it came from headquarters. No, please. I understand. There's a lot of different women. Oh, certain pools. Yeah. Oh, yeah. GLORIA Yeah. Go over here and talk to this person. Now. Do this. kinda thing. I'm not saying headquarters sit down like a memo, say Yo, we will not

take we got to take them down. I think it doesn't work that way. Because the paper trail you don't want to work that way and to say certain groups are all we always say the LI are a a group of many different small factions held together by common ideology. So I just want to make that clear. So now we see where how we got to black women being feminist mind. I think it was an agenda push down from think tanks more, you know.

Well, also we see we see the the foundation of this is like a huge slab of cement now that you've you've you've brought Alice Walker into it's like, oh, okay, whoa, no, now we see a little broader in perspective. Right? She's the voice she was the voice in it, or the you know, the author or how you want to do it. And like I said, Color Purple was the was the greatest piece of propaganda, maybe in acting on black on Manchester. When you saw this for the first time, or maybe the second or

third time, and more recently, what was your feeling? What was your immediate reaction to seeing this movie? What caught up? I loved it. Loved it. I mean, you can go to any where large group of black people are in, say, a line and someone can finish the line for you. That's how openly accepted it was for I mean, it's just that when you start digging back layers, and understanding who these people are, who writes these things, and what their agendas are, I saw in a total

different light. Now might man there's not a single positive man in the movie, right? Not a single one. So um, Ding ding ding, ding, ding. Right. So fast forward. Now we come back from the past back to the present. And we have to see is not only single mothers that are miserable, but all mothers. About a year ago, as I was finishing my research on motherhood, I came across the feminine mystique, written by Betty for Dan in 1963. The title of the first chapter is the

problem that has no name. As I read through the pages, I felt my heart bursting. I thought to myself, every mom needs to know what's in these pages. It helps give meaning to where moms were back then. And where we still are today. Betty for Dan was able to interview these mothers who shared with her that they felt unfulfilled, alone, and ashamed to admit that they felt lost in the midst of motherhood. She called this the problem that has no name. The spread into suburbia with its green lawns

and large corner lots was isolating for moms. Their worries over smallpox and polio, were replaced by depression and alcoholism. Drug remedies, such as mother's little helper, promised relief from boredom, unhappiness and anxiety. Sure, we've come a long way since the 1950s. But the feeling of loneliness and lack of fulfillment is still the same today. So this is Cheryl Ziggler. And she's at a TED Talks. And she

show you motherhood and itself. Bring brings on a form of misery, loneliness, and imagine experience and Cheryl Ziggler is a happily married woman and she she seems to be well off. So she doesn't have the you know, the ills of financial problems. I wouldn't abuse Brad perception. And she's dealing with these things herself. So imagine going through that as a single mother. Well, this is societal. So imagine doing that by yourself. I mean, you have to

you have to be the breadwinner. And like I said, this is where I know I'll take it for the moms. You know, imagine these things that you experience having a husband you know, and having money. Imagine going through that by yourself, and it's the monies issue and you're the sole breadwinner, but let's listen to clip 250 years later, the problem that has no name is still with US, it shows

itself differently. But it's still the same problem. Today, we have the rabbit hole of social media that shows what all the other mommies are doing better than us. If we're working mom, we feel guilty. And if we're a stay at home mom, we feel judged. We second guess and stress over all the parenting decisions that we make. And all too often, we feel like failures and frauds. Wow. Now imagine that being compounded by being a single mother. Right? If you stay at home, you're what'd she say? If

you go to work, you feel guilty? And if you stay at home, feel feel judged and who's judging? Is not men that are standing around now? It's other women? Of course, it's our or, you know, and then she said about social media. Who's doing this job? Oh, look her Browning's. You're saying you don't make her I never. I've never heard a guy say that to his wife. Oh, look at her brownies on her Instagram. Why don't you make brownies like that? You know, this is this is

very sick, that they set these criteria. And where I'm coming from is now this is gonna be a very hot take. I am not first stay at home moms. But I am for a stay at home parent. I think it leaves when parents should be at home. Very, very unpopular stance in popular culture, very unpopular. But I didn't put it on a certain gender who needs to stay at home? No problem. The problem, what happened is when you opened up 50% of the population into the workforce that made the

worker less valuable. Say that again. When you opened up 50% of the population into the workforce that made the workforce more worker more or less valuable? Oh, nobody looks at it from an angle. Right. And I, I would be remiss not to say that. Single parent, dads also have issues. They're different. And in fact, maybe in some cases, a single parent dad is viewed as heroic. Oh, my God, look at how great he is. And it will always be judged to the positive.

Right. Let me flesh out what I'm saying. Because I know a lot of people who got whiplash and what he's what he's talking about, what I'm saying is, workers should be paid enough where a single income can run a household. Oh, well, that would be nice. Yes, it's seems very difficult. But if you look at the numbers from the time where women gain the right to work, what has happened to the income? Oh, it's, it's the same as 30 years ago. Right. So all they did was take the same salary and split it

between two people. That's right. So that's what I'm saying. Now, if the dad wants to stay at home, the mom wants to go to work. Or if you want to be a single parent, you can make enough to run your household by yourself. So that this is where I'm coming to in this whole thing is this didn't benefit women going to work didn't benefit the family then benefiting the woman it benefited the people who made decisions on the highest level. You increased your work

population by double. So do you get paid them half? So if you don't agree with me, Jessica short, tall. She says how Americans how America feels new parents just put the term working mother into any Google image search engine, stock photo site, they're all over the internet. They're typing blog posts and news pieces. And I've become kind of obsessed with them. And the lie that they tell us and the comfort that they give us that when it comes to new

working motherhood in America, everything's fine. But it's not fine. As a country, we are sending millions of women back to work every year, incredibly and kind of horrifically soon after they give birth. That's a moral problem. But today, I'm also going to tell you why it's an economic problem. Okay, well, yeah, there's there's a lot going on with the with young parents today. The main thing is they're having dogs instead of children. Do you blame them? No.

And then I've gone through this program. I'm starting to think no Oh, no, I can see the issues. I mean, I'm a little jaded and older. That's why it's good to look at this. And I, you know, I like to look at why, why are people accepting the fact that I rather have a dog than a baby? And the thing is, you have this, and I'm speaking in generalities here, folks, so don't don't kill me. I think at certain point, humans have a need to give a certain kind of love to something.

Something need to fill that gap. I mean, we talked about the gap where the father missing, I think there also a gap in a family where children are needed. Absolutely. And, and what is being stuffed in that gap for baby dogs, that people? Right. So it's like, everybody's agreed, right? Yeah, this is my child. And okay, that's my child, too, because they don't want to be honest and say, we have a gap here. But society makes it so that we need both for our salaries to pay rent.

No, it has to I mean, the number one complaint is cost. They can't afford a child, which, you know, I always put my caveats. Like, you know, a lot of very poor people have children and they get by but you know, it's so it's, in a way, it feels a bit elitist when someone says that they're their own poor personal choice, of course. But I think the financial struggle

is absent when you talk. You're right, when you're looking at what it costs, what cost of living is, and you really need both people in both partners in the household working for the general masses. Yeah, it's, of course, it's much harder to think about starting a family. And if we look at the listen to the previous clips, everybody wants the lifestyle of what the house, the picket fence, two

cars a trip to Orlando. Yes, sir. So and then you factor in social media like Sheryl Ziglar says, and if you're not meeting that standard, you feel like a failure. Yeah, see? Well, I don't think our people our age are impacted by social media like that. But new families and people in that range. They succumb to, to the pressures. They feel like failures, because they can't have it all. They can't have the vacations, they can't have the house. They can't have the two cars and the baby.

So it's like, ah, yeah, which one? Can we replace? The baby? Yeah. Wow. So, um, but Bernie Sanders has a solution. Good evening. Human population growth has more than doubled in the past 50 years, the planet cannot sustain this growth, I realized this is a poisonous topic for politicians. But it's crucial to face empowering women, and educating everyone on the need to curb population growth seems a reasonable

campaign to enact. Would you be courageous enough to discuss this issue and make it a key feature of a plan to address climate catastrophe? The answer is yes. And the answer has everything to do with the fact that women in the United States of America, by the way, have a right to control their own bodies. And the Mexico City agreement, which denies American aid to those organizations around the world, that are that allow women to have abortions, or even get involved in birth control, to me

is totally absurd. So I think especially in poor countries around the world, where women do not necessarily want to have large numbers of babies, and where they can have the opportunity through birth control to control the number of kids they have something I very, very strongly support. Now, that's your white privilege right there. That's the white privilege guy. I'm putting it all on Bernie.

That's the other side of the conversation. That will be the other guy and go back to the conversation between the two gentlemen. That's the other solution. Don't have babies. depopulation Yeah. So I know I got out of order but I wanted to set that clip up to set the final two clips. So they say

this is this is what's sick about it. They put all the pressure not on corporations to provide you know, meaningful salaries to people or you know, or create a social you know, a safety net, you know, to help not even a safety net but certain standards or corporations or whatever to pay

people a meaningful salary. The reason why I say that is we all heard the stories yet dad was the only one working he could afford, you know, to pay for the kids to go to college, you know, saying have a retirement pension, and you know, as to go on vacation. Where's that at now? Oh, no, what you're getting at I think is population control, ie normalization of abortion. Let's call it choice is being abused by elites to make sure we keep our worker pool cheap and readily available.

Yep, that's the whole point. And it's the same mean but just from two sides of the coin. And it's that conversation between two Hobnob errs to say, hey, I have a solution. You know, let's just make it rustle rough on him. You know that they'll be begging y'all for depopulation. So that's where we're at. So scared to wrap this up, hi, American, how America fails parents to this working mother, all working mothers and all of their babies

are fine. There's nothing to see here. And anyway, women have made a choice. So none of it's even our problem. I want to break this choice thing down into two parts. The first choice says that women have chosen to work. So that's not true. Today in America, women make up 47% of the workforce. And in 40% of American households, a woman is the sole or primary breadwinner are paid work is a part a huge part of the engine of this

economy. And it is essential for the engines of our families. On a national level, our paid work is not optional. Yeah. So here we are, on one hand depopulation, on the other hand, are you choose to have a child so suffer? That's a hell of a choice to give a woman? Yes. And once again, I go back to compound that with doing it by yourself.

Yeah, and we don't make it much easier by positioning the American and I'm saying this is all about America, because that's really the only the only thing we think we can speak to intelligently. And then add to that, that oh, by the way, that guy, he's, he's worthless. Just look at him look on television. He's dumb. He's a goof. He's a goofball. He ain't really going to help you. Yeah. So um, if I bring all these points up to say, we're in a sick place.

Well, the way I read it, the only way we get out of it is actually with the help of women. Women are going to have to realize what's going on. They are without a doubt, what you've shown here today is a lot of manipulation and control. And although you hear the truth and the real feelings coming through, at the at the upper conscious level, it's gone. It's just like, Okay, this is what I got to do. Here's these. And you're right, social media advertising plays right into all of that.

Hmm. And the other thing is that we haven't discussed is, when you split a home up, you create twice the need, yeah, to electricity bills, to gas bills to rent or mortgages to everything. So it's a sick, it's a sick, sick place we're at. But this final clip. Now, Bernie Sanders and the lady said that we need to control populations. But Miss Jessica shorthaul disagree. She said, we need the population to survive. Let's listen to what she says.

Choice number two says that women are choosing to have babies. So women alone should bear the consequences of those choices. You know, that's one of those things that when you hear it in passing can sound correct. I mean, I didn't make you have a baby. I certainly wasn't there when that happened. But that stance ignores the fundamental truth, which is that our procreation on a national scale is not optional. The babies that

women many of them working women are having today. will one day fill our workforce, protect our shores, make up our tax base. Our procreation on a national scale is not optional. That's correct. But depopulation is the answer somebody's lying. You can't have it both ways. And I believe to believe Jessica more than Eileen

to believe Bernie Sanders is a depopulation crowd. We need people well, of course, throughout this entire what almost two hours, I've, what's planned parenthood is just running through my brain, you know, where do they fit in? And we haven't really brought it up. We don't have to necessarily, but but the thank you for doing this because the conversation, the conversation that the nation has Having is about and you know, of course with Cavanaugh and all this and Trump in general, it's all Roe

v. Wade. And it's all about choice choice choice, but you never hear the conversation that goes deeper. And that looks at what the real effects are, are the real necessities or the real need? And why is your choice talking to women? Why is your choice so incredibly important to be looked at from multiple angles instead of just here's what I want? Here's what I don't want right down to what Jessica short all said there with and of course, if we're not making 2.3 average children per couple,

eventually you have no country left. That is of course what happens and we could go on for another hour about what immigration and certainly illegal immigration does to the equation, etc, etc. It's thanks Mo. I don't think I can sleep tonight now. That's my aim. Well, a good job, my friend. I'm looking forward to where we're gonna go next week with all this. I'll go with the stories take me Yeah, I know you are. You're a great researcher mode. This is

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This was fantastic had a good time. All right, same here Adam and as I always tell everybody pay attention to everything and the truth will reveal itself. That's right Moe Factz with Adam curry. This is episode six. We will return most likely next Monday. Again MoeFactz.com is where you can find out all the information in support the show until next time everybody I'm Adam curry for me and Moe Factz take it easy.