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J'Vonne Pearson

Jul 06, 20211 hr 13 minSeason 1Ep. 19
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Michael makes a 10 thousand dollar bet, we find out which NBA player has been sliding in Rada's DM's, and J'Vonne Pearson is cappin' forreal! This weeks guest, J'Vonne Pearson is a stand up comic who goes waaayyy back with Michael to the early days in Philly. Enjoy.... you MODASUCKAS!

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Calgary Audio. What's up, mother, So, welcome to another episode mother Soco Podcast. I'm your host, Michael Black, saying I'm here with Chinese best motherfucking friends. Chinese best friend. Michael Black said, I can't believe we survived. We're now at over twenty plus episodes. We're an eighteen today. That fast? Yeah, can you believe how first went? Eighteen weeks go by so fast? No, not eighteen weeks eighteen episode nigger, that

means eighteen weeks I've been on the show. You fucking retalked. Excuse my language. You're really good at month, Chinese best friend, you are very slow, Manto. Did you go to Cranshaw High No, Inglewood Elementary? I wish Long Beach, I see d C. I wish. Did you go to Van Nice High School? Yeah? It was the graduated there with all these these nuts. Well, you're looking good today. I'm not sure what you got on, but I'm sure I'm sure a blind man would appreciate what you're wearing tonight, Chinese

best friend. Yeah, my I didn't know we were gonna shoot two episodes today. I didn't bring my other outfit. What do you mean you have a different shirt? On. Yeah, same same shoes, same James, but different shirts. That's how that matter longer. This shirt is different, and nobody could really toil because when you wear black James or dog James, were people have twenty thou dog James. Yeah, you're right,

this is my only one gene in my life. Nobody, nobody has to know that Chinese but my Chinese baby mama washed every day, so it comes to brand new all the time. How's the Chinese bippy mother doing? Oh, she's doing good. Else, she's very happy. She could find that happy. But the funk up. We was out at like two a M. And Jimmie fox House yesterday and she texts you about twelve thirty eight am and said Hi. When we text you at twelve thirty eight a M. Said Hi, nobody says hi at twelve thirty eight am

unless your piss. Yeah, what was your reply? Hello? What did you say back when she said said hello? Is it me you're looking for? Because I wonder where you are? Yeah? I got in trouble, Mike. That's why I didn't I knew you. I knew you was in trouble, definitely. Man. I had a feeling something was not right Yeah, but you went home and you give up the dick, and that's all that matters. She didn't want anything dick would make a woman feel better. Man. She didn't want a

vagina rejuvenation. Last night she was so mad. But we're not. We're now cool. Did you either ask what you do? Well? Maybe I do it tonight if she's still awake. I don't know. I'm I I'm not sucking shut up for you and your woman of mine because I'm like everything I commits me, it's my life. They end up being single, Mike, don't worry. The only thing listening. I think she missed four episodes. Well, she probably listens to every single one. She just doesn't tell me. Oh really, I haven't listened

to it. You're right, she's listening to it right now. Live. But you're a good man since you've been around me. As far as I know, your dick has made in your pants. Nobody no woman has ever. I'm a very loyal man. Is about choice? A about productivity? No, it's about choice. You know. I decided. I said, I don't need a lot of problems in my life. Yeah, you don't want to smoke r I don't want the smoke. I wanted to smoke, man, you know, would be real front one day. Man, you just go cheat on your

lady by accident, catch comedian and then take it. That's the worst, imagine. Yeah, that's the reason why I don't go. It's cavedander around whatever they call that. It's Cavender alone. You never had an STD in your life, never, Michael Blockson. I could say that in front of Dr f Never. That's why I decided not to take that. Johnson and Johnson mother or whatever it is. I hear they giving away some free STD. You know, well I heard one

of them come with a free STD. Yeah, I heard somebody got that would be good to blame it, Like if you go home and accidentally give you great STD, just blame that the murdera right, that's actually a good idea until you said it on the show, Mike, thanks a lot, Fellows. You have excuse me. If you accidentally go and burn your woman, just say you're not really burn it. You you took the Kovid shot, you took Corona took a shot and then Caughtchamdia. Man, let's talk

about that BT Awards. You didn't go yesterday because the reason why the world. Want to know, Mike, where you didn't go yesterday? Well, let me see the reason, the main reason I didn't go. Let me see why I didn't go to the BT Awards. Uh. You know you don't have a vaccine shot. Remember that's right. You have to be vascinated. Yeah, you have to be vascinated to go to the awards. That is true. Um, but I bought I bought a vascination car from a Haitian guy

in New York. I could have used it. Just selling fascination cards everywhere. Man, you buy it at wal Mart, just put your name on it. Dollars is the most expensive thing at the dollar store. Usually go to the dollar store. Everything is a dollar. Not the COVID shot. Man, COVID vascination card is five at the dollar store. Man, I hope Dr is not listening. Dr Fauci is in heat right now. They call him a liar. Nobody's listening to Dr Fauci anymore. Kay. You know how pinocchia, when

you lie, your nose get longer. Dr Facci being int tallest fun since he's been since all this ship came out on Dr Fouci. Yeah, he didn't want to believe the fucking um malaria peal to fucking what is that called chloroquine cloa quine hyde. The hydro clod crane you took. You took hydrochline for everything. She take it for like press in planes, and Carolina takes the hydrochlod crane just for anything. Oh my god, he's in fashion hydro clod crane. Oh my god, I'm a period on hydrochlor crane. Mike

does this? So thea took goau. Sometimes, I no that I really have to take like pepter bism. I'm done in my house. You no, Michael Blackson, I don't get there really much. Well you don't your your lady cook like really good food then, yeah, very healthy food, like what do you eat, eggs, bacon, rice, that's all it won't Mike. I'm very easy to take care of. He bacon rising and pussy pretty much. Nice laundry us. Very

simple life, man, Your life is simple. I need excitement in my life, man, Michael Blackson, I don't go out every day and entertain the whole world. You're the African king of comedy. Your life is the world is looking at you know your you already Michael Jackson of comedy, Thank you very much. I appreciate you a very davious man. Michael blacks did happened just like Michael Jackson did happened

overnight Michael Jackson started. I had five years old. I've been telling jokes for a very very Yeah, Michael Blackston. You know I noticed every time we go walk around places, every single person want to take a picture with you. That's and then you take pictures with them. You're a very nice man. Other people run away Chinese best friend. They just want to take a picture of me to see if I show up on the camera. Okay, it's all haters, man. Yeah, you've got a lot of haters.

But your heaters are good hitters. You know. They love me, but they love to like clown me. Man. Yeah, what's been going on the news? Anything you can think of. Now, let's talk about your outfit. That's a very nice outfit. Thank you very much. It's um you know what for Sachi, this is the last time I mentioned your name. Guys, to give me some free clothes, okay for actually be listening right now. I'm running. I'm running for saucy shoes.

What I'm matching for saucy shirt for Sachi. I'm sorry, um, you know what you've been pulling the while away for Sachi. It's loud and it's colorful, you know, and when you are dark and beautiful like myself, you need colorfulness to bring out your darkness. You know you are like you, you're yellow Chinese best friend. You have to wear like darker colors to bring out your yellowness. I gotta wear

bright colors to bring out my darkness. Yeah, no, the such it fit you well, Michael Blacks, you should be in a catwalk wearing Bucchi helfit. You look very good at like warmart stuff. Yeah, that's why j C. Pennies. Yeah, they are waiting for my shipment of Jesus and last but not at least you look very good in former meals. That's an East Coast thing. I don't think they have that at West Coast for meals like a Philly Jersey. I grew up in Philly. Mike part Philly h Philippines.

I said, are you gonna say all the time? I think it's just it feels good singing. I don't know it is if it's very good. Oh you know what happened the news. Um, so we found out. Have you ever ate a subway before? Oh yeah, Mike, not every day. There is no tuna found in the tuna a subway. No tuna findal tuna subway? What the funk? Isn't the tuna? Supware? Can your talents? Is a cat food? Is it goldfish? Motherfucker?

Now I want to call it no, no, exactly why to call it subway because subway in New York is like the underground railroad and as nasty as fun and subway you know what? That is pretty nasty. But you know, talking about Philippines and Philadelphia, that's why I was raised. Everybody followed and my true fans. No, I was raising Philadelphia. I'm a sixties fan of an Eagles fan, I'm a Flyers fan, I'm a Phillies fan. When I started comedy, every bit of the early nineties, you know, ninety three,

whatever year that was, got a long time ago. Three for goodness, gracious, best friend Michael Blackston, you know, we're two now. I don't know when this podcast is gonna air. Maybe he's gonna Chinese best friend. But when I started out, one of the comedians that you know He was a hot guy in Philly at that time. He was a guy that was on like he was good friends with like Charlie mag and Will Smith. So he had appearances on Fresh, Prince of bel Air. Oh I like that.

She was on Depth Jam, he did Apolo. He was like he was a guy that everybody flot up and looked up at, just like Chris Tucker was to Atlanta this Javan Pearson was to Philadelphia. He was our guy, and we go way back. He knows very well and I love having guys on the show that I've known for a long time. He had his ups and downs, you know, and he won't talk all about it, but hey, we want to hear about. He's a funny guy and he's still a funny nigger. Money got my Parsons in

the buildings and Pierson, Pierson, what's up, Mike? Nothing? Sns up the earphones? I got earphones. Damn. This is some fucking major ship. Yeah, we made it, man, I can't believe today. Give me my check. It's not Fresh Principal. I say nothing by Bruce Lee. Don't don't do it, Mike.

I'm gonna I'm gonna destroy Hey, Mike, listen, man, I want to be the first fuck everything, Like I want to be the first to tell you, man, I'm super proud of you, Like, yeah, Michael, I love the fact that you came from this little ugly motherfucker from Southwest Philly and from im bartrom High School. And I used to I used to. I used to holler at a girl named Donna lock It. Remember that she was the prettiest girl in Yeah, and I pulled her and I saw you. I was like, oh, who is that? What

is that? But I'm super proud of you, man, I'm super proud of you. Man. Well, you know a lot of times it say it's not where you're from, is where you're at. You know, everybody know I came from West Africa and when I in Philly my first couple of years in the States, I was in Jersey, but my life did not change. I cant to Philly. Phil Delfil raised me, maybe this tough guy that I am

tough comedian because comedy is not no easy road. Only the tough survive, you know, and you gotta be and sometimes to be a tough comedian you have to go through things in life. And I went through the whole. Yes, I lit my own life. They roasted me. I remember, I remember you remember how we used to perform and

on a major drug dealers. We used to perform in front of major It was just facet in Philadelphia called the Junior Black Mafia and like back in the day and j B M And it was a lady who who brought comedy to Philadelphia thumb a right and a lot of these cars that that was factions from different things. And I remember this one time, um, I was the host of that and Michael Blaxton came up and made every fight everybody fucking laugh. Everybody. It wasn't a fight

or shootout that night. It wasn't a fight or shootout that night. Mike made everybody fucking laugh. And I'm like this little black ass aunt, but he was fucking hilarious. Man. And let me tell you something. Comedy it's hard because like I never had any well, I'm lying. It was one person I saw on stage that made me want to do comedy before I saw a superstar, Chris Thomas.

Chris Thomas is brother, No Chris, his best friend. I don't know many fried wings and and and I come on, come on, man, Chris Chris Thomas d C great, one of the great of the mayor of the city. He I saw him, funny guy, ugliest, fun but so fun. He looks like, no, he don't. He makes me look very cute. Both y'all look like pretty Chris Thomas ugly man look at him, like, listen both for y'all. I was like, oh, I don't know who to call who,

but I saw him on stage at the UM. It was a run DMC concert raising hell whatever it was. I saw him. I said, that's what I want to do. But then I saw Eddie Murphy raw after that and delirious after that, And that's what made person you meet on in person. I know you went to the show. Listen, let me tell you, let me get the story. Let me I snuck in. Let me tell you I snuck into the spectrum, shouts out to Charlie macgive. Let's let's just Charlie man. I was trying to sneak into the show, right,

I was trying to sneak into the show. And he looked at me. He said, will Smith, No, he said, fresh Prince saw you and wants you to meet you. And I was like, okay, and then he let me in to the spectrum. Remember going down and the spectrum was where the Sixers and the Flyers played back in the day Dr J played. The spectrum was I mean it was seventies, eighties, nineties, but that was eighties, but I know eighties, but I'm saying, spectrum goes way back.

And then it later becomes frist and Year of Santa and then became Wa Koba Center, and I was called was Fargo. No remember before wells Fargo. It was first Yearion fuck You Center, the fuck You Center, the f You Center, and then and then well was Fargo. But Charlie saw me and he was like, he said, Van, he said that to me yesterday. This is how Charlie talked. Fucking hilarious. Charlie's fucking hilarious. And he said, Vava. First, Prince, want to meet you. I'm gonna give you the number.

Meet me at the house. But Will was in l A, so Will we talked a little bit, and then he took me on tour and he let me open up for him for halftime because they used to do halftime things concerts at basketball games. Man. And then he took me on tour and then legend goes on and on and on and on. But it's just like man, you know, Charlie, Charlie Macken is the connection of everything. Charlie put a lot of things together. He did Boys to Man. He

connected Boys the Man with Michael Bisins. Right. Wait, wait, Charlie, Charlie told Will Smith to go to l A. So you know, wow, there would be no Will Smith right now if it wasn't we all we all put that in hand, in the hands of God. So yeah, but that would be no Michael Blackson. If anyway, anyway, we're gonna get in the moment. But I saw Mike. Let me tell you something. The first time I saw him, he was walking down the steps of Bartram High School.

Are serious? You had this good memory, listen, I have a memory of your African horse called African Horse. Yeah. Anyway, I saw this black motherfucker walk down the steps of Bartroom High School. But he had this big ass ne fatigue chain on. I was like, who the fund is this? You know what? It was? All right? So, um, this is the point in my life where I finally found

a way to fit in America. America, To to fit in America, you know, many just been in America for like three years right when I and when I got to Philly, I've been America three years and by that time I realized that fit in America. You gotta dress nice girls like guys with jewelry. And I worked the Domino's pizza I saved all my tip money during the summertime. I went shot thin for school and one thing I did spend money on was enough for t D piece

to go on my chain. The reason why I got that for TV because I was the big Daddy Came fan. I love biggert A Came so much. I got my head cut like big that it came. I had to cuss in my eyebrow like bigger. You know Chinese best fan. You know who the big Daddy Can is? All right? I was like big day Can fan, and I wouldn't never for TD. I just wanted to be a big Daddy Can. I'm not sure who you want to be when you're a kid, probably um jet Le, Bruce Jackie Chang,

Jackie Chan, Bruce Lye. I wanted Russell's and his ex wife. I'm not sure that you want to be when you was a kid, but that's who I wanted I want to be big at a king, so I mimic big that big that can wore like silk shirts and jewelry. I will see shirt and had a silk shirt on, and he was like when he was walking down the step was like yeah yeah, unlike the chain was like, yeah, we walked black peop. When we walked, we walked to

a beat up of music. I know, you don't know, and he had no music that I had no music. The music is in our head. When black walk, we walked to music. You probably walked through the words I worked at the beat walking does hilarious Like you were like Mr T No, I don't. I don't actually know. But I turned around because I went to go see that girl. I turned around, looked up, and this dude was walking boom boom boom. I never knew who he was, but he was so fucking classic funk out of here.

Yeah yeah, yeah yeah. I had to get FLYP because I got tired up getting roasted the first two year in Jersey, and then by the time I got to Philly, I'm like, Okay, I know what it takes to fit and you gotta dress night. He's got it. I spent all my money on clothes and jewelry, so people thought. And back then, whenever you wore a piece of jewelry automatically so your drug dealer. So people thought they thought out was a drug dealer. They had no idea. I

was dealing pepperoni and sausage. Yo. That was a big gass pepperoni and sausage. Never tigi piece. It was like a nice piece. It was a nice piece. And when he came down the steps and I saw him, and then later on I saw him with the same piece, and then later I saw him with the same piece, and then later I saw him with the same piece, and then later I saw him with the same piece. Whether we change our clothes, we don't change your jewelry, motherfucker. Yeah,

we got the same damn piece every fucking day. That's how you knew me. By my peace, it's a fisher. When I sucked out my Patreon pages, now live my weekly Titty Tuesday and the Thursdays Movie exclusively with the Patreon, where they could no longer be sensor a boy the social media companies. I would also be sharing Dully updates plus show announcements here first see you on Patreon, your mother suckers. And then he he was like, I do comedy. I'm like, I get the funk out of here, young boy,

get out of here, Get out of here. But I saw him to comedy. I don't know what venue it was. I saw him. I said, I'm gonna put him on something. I used to do this thing called the Javan Pierson and Friends before Givine, before people used to do in Friends. I used to host his things ten years straight. We used to get ten thousand people at the robin Hood Dell East door, big outdoor venue. Yeah. Yeah, they had

like big headliners like Gavonne Pierson. Well, I'm saying that groups would be even more hosted it Von Pierson, right, it was. It was you was before boys the man, Yes he was. Because when I put him on that stage that day and said, I don't know, I'm giving up a Michael Blash, he walked out. He didn't do it. The look, no want, he didn't do none of that. He came out and did his ship. He had seven minutes. I went, I got it, I got it on VHS tape.

We're gonna bring it back, bring it back, Standing ovation ten thousand. It was standing. Only only reason where I had standar vision because it was all doors. Everybody was standing anyway, it was yeah, yeah, but anyway, Uh who was Michael colly or was the headliner? But he came on that night. It was it was a straight comedy show. It was a straight comedy show because for ten years straight I did Jevon Pearson and Friends. And when he came on there it was like wow. They was like,

who the fund is that? At that moment I've done I think it was comic View. This is probably like no, no, no, no, you' you ain't do comic view. That Why then they give me all this love I've never done TV because I gave you the love. Yeah, but it was before that. It was a hype up. Comedians lie all the time. Oh yeah, I was on Fresh Prince and I was on Star Search. But you weren't knowing none of that ship. But I gave him the chance because he was fucking hilarious when I saw him. I think I saw you

at the Laughhouse. Delete delete, Delee shouts out to Leteley. I saw him at the laugh House and he was funny. I said, Yo, you want to do the show I'm doing? And then he came and lit that motherfucker down. Man, this guy is the hype in the nineties. I'm hard on myself. I'm not sure if I was that great, but it was part of it was the process, it was a part of you were so fucking funny. I still when I go back to Philly, I see your fucking picture in Isha is a place where to makes

Philly cheese steaks. For those who don't know, we have is Bibbles, we have Geno's, we have past steaks. Who's your favorite? What's your favorite steak? You think what there? Listen Sometimes hood ones like from Steak I heard about that. There is certain places Genos and Pats are a commercial. Yeah, yeah, you need like hood spots where Gym steaks South Street is and then you have Isa Bibbles. But then you have the Botegos. You have those, but it's a It's

a place called the Lessandro's. Whoa, what's Dosantros? That what Rocksboro? Rockbur is another part of Philadelphia. So yeah, it's just a lot of times its those hood places. I'm one of the great ones I had was the place called Explorers, which is right Explorers is right by LaSalle University. Right explores explores. Um, so, yeah, it's all depends, man, you know, but a lot of time because I know Genos they make them so fast and like it's like the pre

made whatever it is. It wasn't you know you ever had steak? Um? Yes, I did in Subway. Okay, flip it over and flip it back. Cheese steaks need to be chopped, onions, peppers, garlic, flip over cheese everything. That's a cheese steak when you see somebody just lays a piece of meat and then flip it over and it No, that's not a cheese steak. It's not a cheese steak. Well that's why you know Philadelphia, believe it or not.

If Philly don't get mad at me. But I heard Phillies in the top five or ten of like o beast ugly people something like that. We are definitely in the top because your picture is okay, yeah, yeah, well wait a minute, the fucking cheese steak did not don't help our you know know, they have this they have

this new African American place called Gibbons. Gibbons in Germantown, Like they make the bread at the place and they make the cheese steaks that ship because a cheese steak, a cheese steak, original cheese steak supposed to be ribby part of the and they shave it down and then they put it up not a steak of not a steak. And then chicken cheese steak is basic is breast and chopped up and all of that and that's chopped up. So yeah the rib by, Yeah, Ribby Ribby is that

in that yo so so. Growing up starting comedy, Javan was like the guy that did everything that we look forward the door. First guy in Philly to do that, first Gill to do Apolo, first to make this, first comedy champ twice. Come on, My first comedian in Philly to do def Jam twice, the only comedian to do Jeff Jam twice, only comedian from def Jam twice. Uh. Of course, the first comedian at least in Philly history to be having appearance on the sitcom which is first

Prince Apple Air. Um. Yeah, and that's NBC, right, NBC. And I know you want to I know you want to go and talk about like what happened. That's that's I'm big on what happened. But everybody you know entertainment UM definitely tell us what happened about I'm straight to the history of my UM. Like me, I remember, you know, I came out. I was something different as a kid from Africa. Everybody was, you know, and I was doing

my thing. And then you know, you get to part where you like freeze this for a little bit because the thing with my def Jam, I did def Jam. Unfortunately for me, my def Jam was good. If my dev Jam would have aired out of Bank, I would have been as big as Chris Tucker, right, because that's how great my dev Jam was, even though I didn't do it. I didn't do def Jam when Martin hosted it. I did dev Jam when you know, when Martin was done with it. So when I did dev Jam, they

had like Joe Torre was a host. You know, when I did it, it wasn't as big then as if when Martin did it africas you did in Martin, right. I did it with Martin and Joe Tory. Okay, so I did it when Joe Tory did it, and and and and Darnelle was Danielle Rollin was on Breakfast Club talk about his dev Jam and how he got on dev Jam. I am the reason why Danielle Rollins got on dev Jam. You know why because I was so back then dev Jam. When the film Comedians, they were

film about five of them. Only four is going to make the show, you know, the weakest one would make the show. I was so hilarious. But my closing bid, my my headlining joke. I used to do the joke about having a disease in Africa called big dickness, right, So what I did I put I put out this big fake dick on stage and I was figured out it would work because death Jam nig pulling out guns. You could do anything on depth Jam. But the dick

was too much. They couldn't and and they couldn't edit it out because when I left the stage, my dick was still hanging. But you had a standing ovation. So because they couldn't my Depth Jam. That's because Donna rolling was on my show as well. I remember it was Monique Donnell myself and I forgot who the other person was. But you had the same scenario that um, I can't think of his name went up there and did it. Uh he played DC CAP. He played in DC CAP.

I can't think of his name, but he had the most fucking hilarious deaf comedy jam and they couldn't play it. Oh fuck God rest his soul. But it was so funny. Yeah, uh yeah, I can't. I can't think somebody look it up. Um he's from d c Uh. Oh my god, I can't think he did that. He before before Michael Collier, he did stuff in Uh. Charlie Barnett, Charlie Barnette, you had a Charlie Barnett fucking uh situation. What happened to Charlie Barnet. Charlie Barnett was so fucking funny and so hilarious.

They did not air his ship because it was too funny. It was too funny and it was too raw for comedy. And when I saw your ship that night, I was like, oh God, my boyfriend Philly, Oh they ain't it. What pulled the fucking cock? I put the cock out big. But here's the thing, like when Big Dickness, when I and then later on a fully comedian in Buck, while I stole my dick the dick put on stage, Buck stole my dick. He's meaning like I was backstage and

I lost my dick. But the thing about it when I did the audition for the show, I pulled the dick out. So if they died, you know, if the casting the guy that cast it for the show, you know, if he thought it was gonna be a problem, he would have told me. I would have never pulled it out, or if I put it, I would have tucked it back in and left out and said good night. They would have found it with the edit it. But since I walked off stage with my big dick hanging out,

where did you get that from? It was a Halloween constom that I did. I think, I think if it wasn't if it was the right color, because it wasn't right. It was a and nobody believed that that was that a black man with a white dick's not Arius. But he has always been consistent. Mike has always been consistent with his ship. Like Mike has always like when I had did the Javan Pearson and Friends at the robin Hood del East and put him on, blew it up,

blew it up. He has always did like I'm gonna get your story, and Mike, you might not know about this story. So it was at the comedy store. So I'm doing my ship. I'm ripping. I'm ripping you up. I'm ripping. I'm ripping that motherfucker up. Boom. Mike goes on after me, who walks in? Ice Cue that what you did at night, you don't have to remember because you got more checks than me. Now, motherfucker, you're at sixty million, I'm at million. What the fuck? Like Mike

went on? Me gone up? Anyway, anyway, I remember that. I remember that night to see certain things trigger me, like I remember Mike went on after me, and ice Q came on right when Mike was on, and Mike bam bam bam bam boom killed. Like with comedians, either you're gonna go on, like I'm gonna tell you like this, it's certain comedians I'm nervous about. But I'll still go on, Like if you put Earthquake, if you put Dave Chappelle on, if you put certain people on, I gotta be like, ah,

but funk that. Like that night, it was a it was a wave, it was a wave. It was a wave. And then my wave was on and then I remember Michael Blackson came on right after me, and ice Q walked in, and here we go. Your mother sucked us I couldn't get jiggy with this ship. Where was this No, it was it was at the comedy store in l A. I remember that ship, and I'll be looking at but maybe it's very possible. No, it is possible on my

mother's grave that I went on before you. You went on after me and fucking in And I was like, ah, because I had did the gate skit, you know, hey, bet yes, he put on his mother. I believe in that. I don't. Yeah, that was very He's a good man. He went on after me, not mad about anything, but thankful for That's like Mike's like my little brother in comedy. And he went on. He did what he was supposed

to do. But I'd be like, damn, damn, damn. But you know the thing about it, you know, let me go back to the dev Jaim thing a little bit um and when my dev jam aired, I mean, as a comedian, you look forward to that, you know. But you know, but God has its own plan, you know, Because I said to myself, let's say my ship would have aired, I would have been big. I probably have been done by name, probably expire by name. Mike, we

talked about that earlier. I said and let's go back to why you know the situations in the situation, because you know I went to jail, so that's how well, that's always a set back. I know I talked I might have friends on the show one time, and he wanted jail to sell them back. Yeah, but but but but everybody, all the guys from Philly, No, it was Javine Pearson. I went to jail for something I didn't do.

Whatever it is, it is, it is, but I I kind of thank god I went to jail because if I had not went to jail, I probably would have been dead. I probably would have been ruined. I ruined probably so many people lives because listen, there was nobody, nobody, and I'm gonna tell you again after Will Smith, there was nobody comedy wise after me. Nobody I was Mike. Was I arrogant? Was I arrogant? Had no? You keep saying Philly like not a world? Why everybody knew you?

I mean you represented us and then and I always reached back. But if if I had never went to jail for something I didn't do, a lot of things that's represented today wouldn't be represented. This man wouldn't be I guarantee you he wouldn't be here. I guarantee you Kevin Hart wouldn't come on. You know. But God has his way of doing things. Yeah, you know he does. And right like he said he was because I know that was as biggest setback. He got locked up with

some stuff, you know. And then um, and that's one thing. Man, when you I'm sure jail, I mean I'm not. You know, I've been in the holding cell. No, you wouldn't you, Mike, trust me, you would not. Now in the mountains. Nah, you'd be a twig. You You were in a month in jail, sir, I was. I was listen. It was days. He was in the state. I was upstate. I was there where. One day this one guy we then would kill us murderers. This one guy was like, don't put that guy in my cell. The next day he's like,

give them the funk out myself. The next day they're doing patty cake. The next day they was having sex and sell. I was like, oh, I saw men each other. They never catch me, But no, I ain't never see nobody. But the thing is like this, when I went to jail, my mother died while I was in jail, and I never got to. Um, that's something that fucks with me everything. She died from a broken heart, Yes she did, Yes she did. My mother died from a broken heart because

trust me, I was my mother's best everything. Like first, yeah, remember ms Ruth. She was like snoopid, that's my nickname, Snoopy. Why is this little black ass guy is in my couch? You know? Yeah? My mom loved this dude. My mother loved Michael Blackstead. And when I went to jail and when you know, the certain certain situations, I'm getting emotional, but she loved this dude. And it was like when she died while I was in jail, and I never

got to say my goodbyes. Every year, my mother was born in December, so I go through that around the Christmas Mother's Day. I still go through that. I'm never going to forget that. I'm never going to forget that. But a lot of things make me go like wow, Like she loved Michael Blackston, No, I was she because I grew up in the projects. I'm gonna tell you

who else grew up right next door to me? Eve? Oh, even Eve grew up right next door to me, right next door to me so like it's it's it's just certain things a lot of people don't know, Like how we came up. Will used to drop me off at my house. Will Smith, like the projects. West Philly was West Philly and Southwest is so close that everything was like everything. And when I saw this dude come up, you know, come up, he gagged me out of a plane ticket. I'm gonna tell you about that, whether buddy

pass or something. Yeah, well, I mean that was my that was that was just hard for the airlines. And I used to sell all my coworkers buddy passes, get a round trip to l A. And I ain't never made it to l That's not buddy passes, Buddy, it's called it's called buddy pass that the motherfucker or not your buddies, Okay, Buddy passes a standby. You don't give this pass to your buddy, get this pass to your enemies.

It's a standby ticketing. You only get on the plane if there is set there ain't no seat, you're not gonna get on. And back then the airlines were very strict. So when you know that then it was it was open. Okay. Back then, he flew on a buddy pass. You have to be dressed appropriately, appropriately to exactly you have to wear the college because you you're representing the company. So I walked in that motherfucker looking like I came straight

out the projects. Yeah, he probably didn't get on because he wasn't dressed pro And they said, and they looked at it was like, Michael Blackton got this ticket for you. I was like, yeah, I don't remember too much details on that, but I sold I was. I wasn't a drug dealer back then. I was a buddy past deal. He was like, I got I got one from every ticket. Most it ilf No, that was a great hustle back

in the day. Great hustle back in the day, man, because every employee got about at least eight of them, so that I would I would make four hundred dollars. Wow every employee. No, No, it depends that I'm saying, if I get how day, I mean everybody niggers not traffic wasn't I remember you got me to l A and I couldn't get back to Philly. That's your going for you've got stuck in Los Angeles, California. I remember, you know who got me back to Philly, Charley Mac No, Charlie,

he didn't get me back to child. It was due Tony Tony Tony Raphael Sadiq. So it must have been when you fell off then, because no, I was. I was. Why are you wait? Wait? New piece of ship? You all right? All right? Okay? Fell off? Nobody ever fall off? You know what? That's true? Because anything you could be a billionaire? Nigga? How much for that? Hunters run trip to Iraq? Give me that ship? What's up? Mother says? This is African king up comedy. Michael Blackson a question.

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every Tuesday. See, this is the thing I have with people saying falling off. You have to be on something to fall off. Nobody ever falls off for nothing like well except Ben Simmons. Can we talk about that, Ben, You can talk about Ben Man. That motherfucker is the worst motherfucker to ever played basketball in the history of light skin ass fuck that. I know he's looking at me right now. Ben Simmons, you ain't shit. You ain't gonna never be ship it. You can't shoot file shots,

you can't see three pointers. What do you think about that? Mike? Well, you know where with Ben? I uh, they say he's good for the season, not good for the playoff, but he got the players that really comes. Okay. Secondly, Bent Russell Simmons would make fucking free those okay, Stevie Wonder, Richard Simmons who scored more than five points, Little Richard and all the Simmons. He's definitely the weakest of all Simmons. But you know what I'm saying. I mean, he got

us for a four million dollars. My thing I wish would have traded him. Why he had a value that right for hard perfect time right there the traffic, and we didn't do way. We really thought we loved this kid, but you know, he got exposed four team every game that the Sixers lost. They lost by less than five every game that they lost. Ben Simmons lost by shooting. I'm like, what the fuck anything? But I would have

forgave him. I have a personal issue with Ben. Ben was I would have I would have forgiven if they were that beat Atlanta. Ben was in my was in my girl's DM. Light skinned nigga ship right, Ben wasn't my girls after the Kardashians after Ben was in my girl's DM on Snapchat, Ben bros. And mind you, I

hooked this nigga up with a girl. This guy was like my homie, homie and then my girl the game and I called he was like friends, you know, but he like, you know all about What did he say in the DM instead of trying to shoot his shot? Shooting free throws? You know what I'm saying? And I lost respect for him when he went to my you know,

don't you know? Like I don't give an I find my girl girl M Yeah he was in my girl girl like yeah, yeah, he wasn't her M if he would have won, if they wouldn't won the game, what did he say, hold on, hold on the friend in Philly? That showed I didn't do her. No, your your girl, the Asian girl. He was in her DMA. He was in rods DM like NonStop being real thirsty. Wow, you know what I mean. I lost respect for him when you did that, Like, I have no interest in none

of my friends. Girl, I don't give a bass. It's a certain situation where you don't funk with nobody else's girl. It's not that's another story. She's not your friends. But wait, he's in your DM about your girl girl. That's your girl girl. Yeah, I know you, I know I know your yes, but I'm saying he's not. I mean the bitches DM. He's in my girl girls d M. That's

light skin niggership. Yeah. So I lost suspect for him then when he did that, and then he was consistent because at first it was in the d M s. Yeah, Mike, please sell. He was trying to really hollow her, like you know, you don't need that little black twee gass his hairlines, like really, drive the motherfucker. He got crooked tea things, his wide open you. I'm telling you what

he says. Because these young kids think because the NBA player, they got a hundred eighty four min Algy could get any woman to want You know what it is is that ego best. So if you got a real woman, she ain't falling for. This is the bullshit with with him. This is the bull Hey, okay, this is the bullshit with with with Ben Simmons. He ain't really us. He was in Europe. Put that motherfucker on twenty third in Cumberland. He get bust the funk up, beat up. You don't

do that, Mike. He could have any good in the world. He kicked five millions. No, no, no, no before that, before that he was making seventeen dollars a week and no um um burger king working. Wait, why he's in college? Why he was overseas? See what was the overseas We mean that's where he came from. No where, from Australia, Australian at LS. You know he didn't, no, he didn't what best Simmons were talking about about. Richard Simmons, Ben Simmons Nia. He played two years at LS and then

we drafted him number one. He was bullshit, but his greatest thing was overseas in Australia, like Australia where he's born. He played college here he was. He was full of ship and I have no he have no burger king well anyway, he was just fed up. I mean, I mean, we're not gonna We're not gonna take away his credit. He's a great defensive player. Yes, that's it. Yeah, that's it. Shooting guard. He should be practicing shooting ball, shooting the free throws, not shooting in your homies, d n your

homies girlfriends. Let me ask you this, Mike. After the first game where the Sixers came back after six points, we mean the Sixes overybody right, remember that when we lost our four Remember that and he lost bout four. Okay, he missed eight fucking free throws that game. That game when they went down by like twenty points, I stopped watching that game and I started trying to make a comeback. When it almost made that conbact, I said to myself, these guys are gonna win this game. Six four games

training row, and they won every game. And our boy, Joel, what's up? Joe? He was funked up a little bit. He still he gave them getting all to he had, all he had obviously that last game seven Ben Simmons, you know when he did not go and take that dunk on that layoup on a simple shop, and I was ruing his face. He just showed that he lost all confidence in himself, you know, and and he got exposed and now his value to trade became almost nothing. I mean, this is a guy that's four million dollars.

Let me ask you and me and are both are fucking Philadelphia team? Like we go bark to Charles Barkley to minute bow, I said, let's go back Tim Perry as when we trade that fucking Charles Barkley to no, we put Phoenix songs for Tim Hornes. Sound okay, I'm talking, Come on man, let's go back. Let's go back a little bit more. You got Maurice Cheeks and okay, Like, let me let me explain. What do the Sixers need, Mike, We need a shooting guard. So do you think Dami

what's his name, Damian Lillard? He'd be great. I would take anybody and anybody that could shoot the ball. Honestly, I think you know Ben is good. I mean I'm not if you mind, ask out the whole thing with it disrespect his homies and going their girls. DM. You know, he's a great defensive player. I'm not gonna take that away from him, but he's good for the season. Playoffs is what really matters when you got to shoot the ball, you know, Um, he needs if if I'm here real much,

he's gonna be traded. So maybe potentially Minnesota. I'm not sure where gonna get from Minnesota right now. The six is just trying to They'll take a hot dog for that nigger. I'm your guest on your show, so I'm asking you the questions. Now, the Eagles hurts, right, and the board that won the Hisman Trophy? Right, do you think we got the same situation firing four McNab and just Sean Johnson. We're gonna Jackson? Motherfucker. Um, you don't think they because they were they both was in college

when Yeah, that's right, but uh did I did? I can't play four years? No? No, No, the quarterback got out. I know that he got out and went to Oklahoma. No, he got out and went to the pros. Man, I'm saying, and when you at Alabama, he went to Oklahoma because Alabama. Um, bottom line is, do you think the Eagles do you think the talk you know soccer? Motherfucker? They gotta let go soccer. Very long time ago I've been Do you think the Eagles are going to win the NFC East.

It's gonna you know what, It all depends, man, Um, we have to allow Hurts to just be hurt. Let's see what this kid has. He's good. No, you saw him last year. We saw him last year. Okt me here. We still only one four games the Eagles guy, they we don't care. I won't get a funk. How good you all, how well you play? You win games? So I have confidence. I think we got We just gotta throw them out there. Let him play, just like we

didn't mcnat. We let McNab play and McNab winning. We started winning games and took us through five nfccha up everything. I know that, But I'm saying he was at least every year he was a contender. Okay, let this. You know I love our draft pick as an Eagles fan. We got the best draftick in the fucking draft, got the best receiver, we got the Heisman guy, we got the fastest guy. So do you think that the Eagles

are going to win the NFC East. I'm I'm a realist at the same time, because you got your nephews and ship you you bias. Were you talking about my nephews waiting the fucking uh he's in the NFC North Well, no, but he went to Sensinnat. His nephews are fucking fucking hot four million dollars a year. I'm not talking about them. I'm talking about the Cowboys, who are very healthy. We'll talk about the Giants who are growing. Are gonna come out the NFC East as the champions this year? Two?

I don't know, honestly, I would have to see the first I want to tell you, I can answer that to the first three or four games of the season. So see how they're playing, how everybody else is playing. Right now, I think the Cowboys finally give press doctors money. He's excited about finally getting money. He's gonna prove himself. That's one New York got better last year. New York is gonna get me better. Washington picked up the fucking Practrick guy. He's like a ninety yelle guy with beard

that you cannot killt him out. So we got that with him, and and then the Eagles. Technically, I mean they all post be really last place, so I'm not expecting too much from them. My hopes are not high for them. So even if they make it eight and eight, I blocked it. That was a great season. But I'm not I'm gonna say they're gonna win it. It's gonna at the end of the day, it's not gonna be

a great division. They win at nine and seven is probably gonna win a division nine and seven, you know, so it would probably between Honestly, I expect the Cowboys to win the division this year, not unless some kind of magical um. The Eagles are gonna go twelve and three this year or twelve gonna bet your last eighteen dollars. You haven't I got seventeen dollars now, y'all seeing this live, Mike, you do not want to I'm a bush. I'm gonna bet wait wait hold what whoa whoa whoa? Because you

don't pay up. You never keep talking about I are you right now, nid We'll pay me now after you win it, Beday, I guarantee you that the Eagles will come out the NFC East champions. You're taking away that twelve wins, man, No how many wins you think they'll have, don't don't put the crack away. Don't smoke the weed in a crack. I don't smoke. There ain't no fifteen. Give me a realistic I'm gonna get your realistic number. The Eagles are gonna be twelve and what is seventeen?

Twelve and five? The Eagles is gonna be twelve and five this year. I'm gonna i'm a You said twelve and five because my ten thousand dollars on thousand dollars you said, I'm not even gonna give you that much. I'm gonna just say, if they win over ten games, I'm gonna give you ten thousand dollars. What that's than that? You're gonna give me a thousand dollars or I'm gonna work for you for free? No, you you're gonna get

my fucking money. Mike never hires me. He hired me one time, and um, we was up there, Royal Allen. We me, We did the whole thing that we just did the show at the Michael Blacktons show at then you didn't hire me. Somebody else pay he was on the show because because oh I didn't know you had I didn't I'm sorry, I'm sorry, all right, but look man, I thank you for having me. But I'm gonna ask you this question, and I really appreciate you, bro, because like a lot of comedians don't give me my props,

You've given me my props. No Philadelphia median has ever given me my propers. You're the one that opened the doors for us. You was the comedian that we looked up to. You was at raw guy that came out of Philly and you want to You was the one that had the rooms for us to go and perform. And besides the comedy clubs, we were very tough to get in, you know, so you had every back in the day. If you started comedy in the nineties, it was all about those urban rooms. Those rooms are what

made us tough comedians. We had a couple of feeling that ran with I was rying by Javan, he was a host. And you go to New York and you got rooms and talent hosted and Rob Stapleton, you know,

all those guys that Drew Fraser's and it's smoky. All those guys came out of those places in New York, you know, and then Philly, of course, and then you go to d C. You have the Chris Thomas, you know, then you go to Baltimore, you had the Mike Brooks, you know, so every those were the those were the driving distance from where we grew up, from Tray State, the tri States. So when you went to those places, these were the guys that had comedy rooms for us to go and work out in. So you open it,

you helped. You give us a place, a platform to perform. So I gotta give your props, but no, I appreciate it. You know, you have your stepbacks going to jail and then you know that, you know, it reversed over and came back. But like a lot of people that I put on, you're you're one of the only people. It's a couple other that that was like yo, I never knew he went through that ship. We still right sitting next to me, you know. And and you know, I appreciate you, man, I love you. And I do this

thing now with Hand Up Entertainment. We do a splash comedy pool party like this is nothing. What you do. Listen, bro, I need you to come through in three weeks and you're gonna come through that. Uh July to seventeen, it's going it's going down. What is that semon? What did a week. Is that uh Saturday booked for the whole year. You're gonna come through. You gotta make that show you want. You can Michael black can Michael blacks and come through and do that for me and we I'm booked on

the seventeen. We're not not not the Bone Connecticut. Hey, mothersucker, We're gonna do this hand up entertainment and myself who I hooked up with, We're going to hook up with you so we can bring that spoop pool plash whatever that is pools where you do this in Philly pool No, we do it out here. You talking about player, We're gonna do it out here, the pool plash splash comedy show. We're gonna do it. And you're gonna come through and probably give you like twenty whatever you sh I ain't

got twenty thousand to give you, Mike. My network is more than yours. Come on, man, but your network isn't gunna money, motherfucker. Everybody look up Michael Blackston and Javan Parrison. But I love this boy, man, Listen, seriously, I love you man. Thank you for having me like I appreciate Mike, Listen, I appreciate you, man, because I have watched you come from the guy walking down the steps at Bartram High

School to this pimp ass dude. Appreciate that. Yeah, man, bit here, I got telling earlier, even with the whole thing. But he's a come on, he's a great and I got my hairline. He's still doing. Whats happened to you? What else? Mike? Mike? Stop getting the haircut every week? Yeah? What? What kind of whoa? Whoa? Whoa? There's no beijean and my ship you well, you know what they think about it. I've always died my age. I'll dye my haird Mike, Mike Africa. Who can stressed out? Man? Stop getting your

haircut every fucking week? Stop to look good man. I'm on stage every week. See you on stage of the year. It's a difference, motherfucker. Okay, big heads, you won't you won't let me open up for you because you can't follow me. Yeah, give me your page, open up, open up, give me, give me, give me your pig, Give me your pig one night, one night. Differ. You could go

up there and twork and I'm still following you. Okay, I'm give give me your page one night, Mike, is probably one of the funniest man on stage run on the Funnies, but Javan is funnier. How you wish money? Who I started this guy wish all right, I started it and I finishing it. Alright, alright, I start no ship. I'm gonna put him on the show just for the

hell of it. Well, put me on the show the next five shows, your next five shows, hold on, stop all your your guests, because all right, I'd be like Mike, yo, can I come? But now I mean I go on the road. I have two I thought two guys open up. But I'm gonna figure I'll show that I'm gonna have you come out that the next five shows. Put me on. God, I don't even pay me. Put me on the shows. Fly me in and put me up. I gotta fly. I'm sure to show that you could drive to Africans.

We gotta save some money. But but like I said, man, it doesn't matter where you. Like I said with def Jam, I had a setback on set def jam My Death in the Air. But like I said, if it would have aired then in the nur I would have been bigg as hell. I would have been dune by like two thousand nine. Who knows. I'm just saying like you never, don't don't ever. Whatever guy has planned for you is

gonna happen eventually. Don't ever say and and that that's what disturbs me about you because I I watched you from coming down them fucking steps and every time I say that, coming down those steps of Bartram High School, he was not a comedian. He had this fucking chain and I was going to see this girl named Donna Lockett. Remember Donna Lockett, one of the baddest motherfucker's in Philadelphia. And I saw him and then later on we hooked

up as a comedian. Don't say listen when it when it was all said and done, I look back and I sit in the audience. I was at a show in Baltimore and I sat back and my my, my sister Lynn, me and remember when me and Lin came and we sat there and I was like, this motherfucker is bigger than me. But I loved it. I love the fact that he was fucking doing his grind. He was grinding, he was grinding, and he was grinding. I saw stuff on on the internet where he's about to

get a new show. Who did. I wasn't supposed to say that too. Yeah, yeah, but you know I'm the type I don't I don't talk about but but but again, but again, you never if if any of these new actors or comedians that get cameos in a movie, whatever, whatever you do, dumb, tell your friends you're in the movie. Can watch the movie and make sure you've seen it. Still, I don't talk. I didn't see you and coming to America too, I was like, why the funk they didn't

you tolze you more so much? That's how like I saw you in I could have been in the McDonald's scene. Trust me. The whole world felt that way. But it's okay to trust me. It just made the word more hungry for you to like, God, we want to see more of this nigger. And that's what it is. I don't mean me. I never I never let Hollywood get to me. I never let nothing bother me. I know whatever God has for me, it's gonna come much Ahead

has a plan for you where you have. Hey, Mike, well, we gotta bring this young artist and see what can I can? I say, no, I'm gonna want to see this. I I really want because like, Um, I'm with some new people hand hand Up Entertainment, and we are looking for comedians, female male comedians. Hand up entertainment. D m them. Look they that their Instagram. Yes, hand up Entertainment, and UM, we're gonna go through there and um do some some comedy.

We're just trying to bring real comedians because this pandemic bore some bullshit out. But when you pick up that, Mike, five minutes be five minutes, but five minutes could be five hours. And my guy's status and everybody shouts out to Charlie, Matt shouts out to myself, and I appreciate you, Mike, really, I really appreciate much respect perform. I was that respect for my people's man um In fact, if you're in l A and July, you could probably in l A. I just want a big ass swell point. Well, I

don't even want to talk about the house. What are you talking about, Mike, Stop, don't start no, let me tell you something. Pull it up. When you brought what with what money? Javon this guy to be in time point, even living next door to Michael Jack just been dead for twelve years, I said, Michael Blacks. They the B and the B don't even hey, listen, he brought up twelve points six room and Charlie Max how it was. Motherfucker man, don't don't care. No, I ain't gonna cap

on your show. But you know what I'm doing, and you know I'm trying. Rightfore, he came on the trees like my in a hundred dollars, I'm about of cash. Let's pow uh Dallas sign j V P E A R S O N everybody cash. Let's see if hold on, let's see if you got motherfucking um followers. You ain't got no followers. Let me tell you. Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on. You don't got no followers. My followers only Like did you want to see about dudes? I'll pull out a dick in a titty can tell

them in the show. Guys, shout out to Javan. This is a veteran artient, very comedian that, like I said, we all looked looked up to a lot of comedians looked up to him. You know he's he's started a lot of rooms that we are winning and get our ship on and helped us to become tough comedians. Appreciate that and my and my Instagram is uh Javine Pierson Official, go on Javine Pierson j v O and an E. P e r s o in official and hand up in Entertainment and my boys status my dear and Mike,

I appreciate you any time. Man Hey follow your If you do follow him right now, you could be the eighth follow up he has seven yesterday the bat. Come on, let's do what the bat you said. I'm saying, if the Eagles went more than ten games, I'm gonna give you ten thousand dollars. That's my boy. And if they win less than that, I need for you know, I'm not hired, right, nigger, I'm gonna need you to pay up that fucking thousand dollars out of that thirteen point

one million dollars. Just slide to this word about you win more than ten games, they win more than thing, I'm gonna get yours grant cash, cash, fucking money. I'm not talking about Nigeriannira, I'm not talking about goddamn bitcoin. To my bro, you as dollars in your hands, and if they don't, I'll work for you for years, nigger. And then and I got I got my uh I got my passport this week, I'll go there excoose me. You go fire one of them fake as P P

p P loans and give me my thousand dollars. Thank you for having us another episode podcast. Thanks for listening The mother Sucker Podcast with me Michael Blackston. It's a Cavalry Audio production brought to you by All Heart Radio and The Black Effect Podcast Network. Produced by Brendan Morgan off Calvary Audio and a King for The Black Effect. Associate producer is Jess Apple. Executive produced by Michael blacks and Keegan Rosenberger and Dana Brunetti.

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