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Freeway Ricky Ross

May 18, 20211 hr 25 minSeason 1Ep. 12
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He went to prison in '89. He hadn't dealt drugs since '87. He had 13 million dollars in real estate. He had so many properties he forgot which buildings he owned. Hear the real story from the man himself Freeway Ricky Ross (@FreewayRicky) as he shares it all from making millions in the dope game, spending over a decade in prison, signing rappers from jail, and having a special police unit assigned to find him. And the Blackson Angels will twerk for him on this episode of MODASUCKA!

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Calgary Audio. Welcome to Mother Socker Michael Blackson. Mo, uh, it's Michael Blacks and the No Filter. What's up? Welcome to mother Soccer with Michael Blackson. I'm your host, Michael black said, of course I'm here with my co host, Mike. Is my name Chinese mother soaker too? No, you're gonna keep your name Chinese best friend? Okay, I guess I'm not changing it. Suck Soccer. Mother Saca saka mother Saka Saka Saka saka saka saka. What's going on? Man? Nothing much?

Michael Blackson, This is a beautiful day. It's beautiful. You dressed like big bird, motherfucker. Yeah, get a little weight. I've been in quarantine for like a year and a half now, Corona. Yeah, hey, is all those jeesis you're wearing? No, Michael Blacks, Oh you know what matterfuck? I found this? It Kim Kardashian garage sale. Oh can you west? This stuff is on garage so sale since the divorce. Yeah, she's selling all his ship. Yeah. Guess how much I

got the shoes for? I don't know dollars? Why because Kardashian doesn't care about zis. Yeah. I wanted to buy some Adida stocks, but she said no, there was a really special present. Yeah, it was their one week anniversary we're talking about. No, you know you didn't know that the on their anniversary. Uh, what's his name? Can you? Can? You? West gave adda stock to Kim Kardeshian for real, a lot of stocks that was early in their relationship earlier. Yeah,

it was like one week anniversary. Who the fox celebrates more week anniversary? Don't you celebrate one week? Celebrate one year? Two years? Yeah? Well I wanted to body the stocks and she said no. It's uh so you think I did. The stock is going down because you know it's yeah, you know what I hear yourself phone? True, we answer it. So somebody's phone is yeah, probably one of those blacks and angels. Oh yeah, they they got a phone call.

Probably the sugar daddy's calling him. Uh, it's not Michael Blockson. I'm not a sugar daddy. It's strictly business with my blacks and angels. That's good, Michael Blockson. Talk about the stocks. Uh, she's still got a lot of stocks. You think Kanye should take the stocks back? Come on, he's not an Indian give. Let leave the stock with there's a lot of stocks, Michael blacks And how much it was? How much stock it's like worth as much as Disneyland is

worth right now for real, that's a lot of stock. Yeah, now you can't take bettery. Have children together? Maybe northwest or southeast compeer and then then in their new one there's a new one. There's three was it like the four one four or five? Three way? Was it? Maybe a name north southeast? It is another one in one north direction? Michael Blackson. I didn't make you know Kanye is from Chicago. I think Chicago Highways? Is that nineties six or seventies? Something I forgot? I was raising the

East coast. We just know ninety five south and ninety five north. It goes all around south. Ninety five goes all the way from New York pretty much from New York all the way to Florida. Wow, yes, ninety five does, yes? And then I think in what's it the ten? The ten Freeway goes all the way to like I think, like Ohio somewhere really to Texas. What the fund that should go through? Who give a funk by highways? I want to know, Michael Blocks because I want to travel sometimes. Motherfucker,

get on the plane. You know you're not gonna see the highways. I'm scared of heights. I didn't tell you that. Yeah, I don't like heights. Yeah. So you know I've been high in your life? I mean heights. Have you ever been high? Have you have a smoke gunja? I have smoked a few times before. And what happened? I ate all the food in the refrigerator and I got in trouble. Yeah. Even I eat the baby food too. So was it like you have cem lac or what kind of food

is it? Yeah? I drink everything, even the breast me up to. You know what. That's enough of that ship. Well you know what, Um, Today I have a very very good friend of mine. UM. God damn it. You know what. You know, one of my favorite movie in the world, my top five movies, the movie Blow Blow, Blow, You're My Blow. That's by Boston George. Yeah, I remember that, UM, and I fell in love with that movie. And then one time I was in a movie set in um

northern California, and guess who had just got out of jail? Uh, I have no idea in Boston George himself original Boston Original, we got a chance to chop it up, you know. Also fascinated by everything he went through, you know, uh, but not as fascinated as I am by my first guest. My first guest, he currently right in the owner of the Kingpins. Uh it's a week company legal weed. Yeah. Uh god, this guy was so hot in the streets. This guy was so hot in the streets that every

good rapper took a piece of his name. Wow, my guy from Philly. Name is Freeway of course, uh, Miami rapper Rick Ross. Wow. And and the clothing company too? Are you fucking kidding? Me's best friends? I mean he against them to Rusty. They owe him billions of dollars Ross. I don't think the clothing Ross has anything to do this, are you sure? Well? Accent a lot of good stuff off.

It feels like it's a rubbery Ross, right. Don't you think we're no further dude from my nigga, my homie, Mr Freeway Rick Ross, Lazy Rick Ross to the show Freeway, Rick Ross? Yes, Yes, did you take the freeway here or the site street freeway? Crowded Crow, that's the way to go. I took every stop signing was stopped. He took what's up, Mike? What's going on? Man? That's a

pleasure having you. What do you find this dude? That at at the Chinese restaurant you were helping me with some stop mr Child that I let it cause motherfucker this mother crazy. Yeah. Oh my goodness, I don't know where to start. Alright. You from born and Raids stop Central. No, no, Now, I was born in Texas. Moms moved out there when I was like three, so that's almost an age. You came to howl when we kept America. That was dreamer, your dreamer dream. I love to dream, dream, dream, dream,

dream the land of opportunity. Of course, America is definitely the land up in California is a land of opportunity for you know, entertainment. You know. But you three years old, you come from Texas. One part Tyler, Tyler. That's what. Don't tell me, Jamie five from Tyler. No, I think he's from he's from Tyler. A little time right up

right outside, you know, he's from Tyler. From Tyler. That's why I think, Jamie, if you're listening, please say something than they're coming, Mike, I don't know nobody listens to this podcast. Really, everybody listens to it. Really, it's probably mean you. No, no, it's more people. But now I think he's from Tyler because I remember going there to do a show for um what the Adrian dude, the football player, the guy that beat the ship out his kids,

Adrian Peterson. Oh, I was gonna guess. Uh? Oh j Simpson, Oh, Michael Michael Jackson, front right, everybody, every every successful kid was beat the funk up? Yeah, well, how come because you have to beat some sense into the moment that you know, I'm beating the Chinese baby out that Channe. You might turn out to be Jackie chan you will. Thanks you didn't get beat up, did you? Nobody? Did nobody beat me up? Exactly? Look at you. You look like I'm a mess. I'm not successful, all right? So

you come here? Um l a raised he grew up a hit. It's ral ye gang affelate that did you join the get on? No? No, I wanted to be in the game when I was about a guy like I have thirteen year my excuse to be fourteen soon, and I'm like god, I just think about them all the time. Can you imagine just living the hood and your little innocent ten year old it's part of the gain. But I think about living the hood, you just had no choice almost if you want to. I mean, that's

the thing that's going on. You know, whatever is going on, you want to be a part of You want to be a part of it. You know, you want to be part of something. So you want to be you want to be a feeliate again at ten years or did you were you gonna be picked red or blue? It's gonna be its gonna be blue blue. It's blue more popular, and at that time it was. I think,

I think it still is, don't you think? Well right now, well now I'm sorry Mr Rick Cross, my friendly scholar blind, but blue wear red and red wear blue, it don't matter. Talking about gang, I found out you know that gangs back in the day was only created to like fight against the clan. Is that true? Did you? That's what they started for a year and then all of a sudden, it's like the clan. They just suck each other up. Well, when the clan didn't come around no more, so they

got and you did all that traded. That's it you've been practicing. You know what I'm saying, so you gotta whip somebody. Wow, Um, how did you avoid gang growing up in freaking South Central? Man, Mike? I started playing tennis at like twelve years old? Wow, Serena William's fucking neighbor. Yeah, did you get your in? Was South Central tennis? Type of because surrender that's where they're from, right, you know, dif from Compton, Compton, Compton and you know company in

the same thing. You know, they just gave him a different name, and they're like, you know, two miles apart exactly makes no sense at aough man, It's like, did two miles you walked to fucking South Central from Compton? Absolutely easy? So did you ever meet that their father? I meant I met all of them when before I went to prison. Before I went to prison, we were at the tennis course together. It wasn't many black, so you know we kind of hung togather and talk. Well,

make what make you want to play tennis? Was that? What? Who was that guy? Play basketball? Who's the guy nobody would pick me when we play basketball? So he's like it. So he's the tallest thing on the tennis court. Mike, Let's talk about his tennis career. I think he's pretty good. That could tell the way he moves. Moves what, Yes, tennis is good back hand I used to play tennis. I don't was you good in a tournament? How far did you go with tennis? Yeah? Well, uh, I went

to high school. We had one of the best high school tennis teams in the country. Yeah, all black out there playing tennis like that. And you don't know if I want to, as I mean Gibson, I know. I just know ash because I always been asking my whole life. Man, I never had lotion, I said, as Mike, where did you find delution? You look very I made it. I'm successful that like, no more jerk jerking's lotion make you ashy? And it's also for jerking up. I got good motion

and I used cook a buttough that sounds expensive. Where did you get them on CBS? Motherfucker? Yeah? I remember you, Mike. When I first got out. You had made it for when did you? All? Right? Let's yeah, I didn't make it when he first got out. No, you hadn't made it, not to this level. Proba. Did you see him? Yeah? What was the first time did you guys watch me? Probably many like ten Tenny Levin when I got out, I got out on nine. I got out on nine. But I think I was around Tenny Les when they

first met. Right, you're right we met about ten years ago. That's so true. Yeah, I let whatnot? No, I came to l A like thirteen, maybe it was thirteen. Yeah, that's when I came back to up you know, maybe me right, me right, because I lived in l A back and like oh four to like oh six, and then I went back home and went back to East Coast and they came back in late October when I came back to where did you meet? Remember? It was

that simply hopesome the first time we met. What is that the restaurant all they wanted and like, um by, yeah, what's your Oh yeah, that was definitely Mike. I was thinking, you guys met her the tennis match doubles or something. No, I didn't pay You didn't play tennis at all? Nah, man, I didn't play enough. It looks like a tennis player. You say everybody played tennis played tennis. Yeah, I play tennis. You are not, Bill. I played tennis, mothers. I'm really

good at tennis. Not pink punk tennis, tennis. Yeah. My my father was a great tennis player, trained all the kids. Yeah, all my kids. My brother played, My brother played with a Champ Yorkovic, my other brother. And then he started drinking because I was drinking young and he followed me the age of fourteen. Your brother. Yeah, but now he's doing good. I took care of him. Then I take care of himself. Yeah that's good. Man. So you played you guys went to high school tournament? You went that

fall tennis? Yeah, yeah, we went to the city finals a couple of times. Wow. Then okay, So at this age now you are like sixteen, what sixteen seventeen? When did you get involved with like, uh leg to the illegal taler? You know, I never learned. I never learned how to read it right. I never learned how to read it right. So do you can? You guess what all the celebrities you think? And I read like's friends Floyd Mayweather? Are you kidding, Mikey? You think he's gonna

listen to this? He's good at math because you know how to make money and count the motherfucker. He's not gonna know how to spill mothersucker on fucking I heard radio. Okay, I'm just joking, Floyd. Please don't punch me. You almost punched me last ever have a video and you know he's doing celebrity fights now, so I'm not I hear where he is. I'm not going anywhere. Well, you you're about to be a celebrities so you're probably me his

first back. Nobody about me, but you don't the end of the day, he don't give an So many successful people, you know, the complete school or didn't go up whatever reason, and hey, it just tells you that you can still make it in any way. You can if you put your mind to it. At the end of the day, your mind is what really matters. Absolutely playing your motherfucker that could read the whole book and do this, and

they're fucking homeless. A lot of homeless niggers out there can't could read, got college degree, college degrees, you know, and can't do ships. So but it's your mind if you don't know. I got a mind of a fun mind, a mind of a leader. But out to Floyd Mayweather, there might be one problem. He gets lost a lot when he used Google Maps. He might be like Google, Google speaks to you, motherfucker. Oh yeah, I'm the dumb exactly. You know you can't read. You can't read a math motherfucker.

All right. So uh so when when did you think you got involved with like the other part of the well after I found out I wasn't gonna be going to college. Um so, I don't know what you said, you can't read, all right. He's a first guy to actually admit to that. I think would admit to the problems. Man, I love its honestly. Michael Blaxon, Well, that's the first time. That's the first way to fix it. You know, you have to admit that you that you've got a problem.

If you don't admit you got a problem. God, I know another guy that cannot read. But I want to say, please tell us, please tell us. Come on, Mike, I want to know. Because so I was on set doing the movie and when it was time for his lines, somebody else would read the lines to him and then he repeats it. What movies and Mr Rick Ross is gonna take against Don worry about it, mother Batman, Batman next Friday, keep going try again, motherfucker Batman. It was

Batman one, two and three, motherfucker. Michael Keaton couldn't read what others his name is Michael Keat. No, I'm just kidding you know, I'm not gonna tell you to fucking you gonna teet about it? Had me beat the funk up. I could just google who's the actor? Can't read? But a lot would come up. Not everybody is as honest as this. So you did you ever get learned how to read? Yeah? Yeah, when when? When I was in jailow jail. It's not that fucking bad. I told you

we should go to jail. We are in jail quarantine. Hello, mothersucker, we've been in You know if you go to jail, you dick ain't gonna work no more. Yeah, well, you just junk off all the time. That's no fun. You have a roommates, no fun. Now when you go in the bathroom, you have three point eight seconds to beat up he comes out before he kills you. Man, catch you the dick in your hand, kill you. Yeah, you're gonna get stuck by a borrow soap, I guess, or

don't drop this soap either. So um, you could say you're not going to college. You can't even read, so you promo you cut in class? Why you why you couldn't read? Reading starts at fucking first grade? Right, but in in in the hood, who was cutting first? But who reads in the hood? Yeah, nobody reads the scription, didn't read the bloods, didn't read I'm saying it. If it's gonna be a gangster, why would you be reading that He wasn't a gang stuff at four years? It

makes sense, Mike, you know what I'm saying. At four reading come starts early. No, it depends where you're at, Michael Bluxon, How did you make it the high school? He made all the way to high school without being able to completely read the write. They just keep pushing your along, you know, to get you out of the teacher say, I don't want that problem you you take it. Plus he's a tennis star, fucking public schools tennis star. Yep, So the coach would go to the teacher and give

me a passion grade. We need one team? Where's that coach? That he's probably dead right now? Sure you know he's alive.

Why would he be alive? Corona didn't get him. God bless him for letting this about termination from the fucking teaching that he's how homeless and sucking frozen to death and sucking Chicago somewhere or Texas, and it was snowing that bitch the teacher is in l A. Mike snow he probably can't afford the l A if you're homeless and bro l A when you can't be mad at the teacher though, I mean, I mean they feel like they're doing you a favor by by at least at

least they didn't hold you back. You know. Wow, Well we found out something new. This nigga couldn't read in it. But he's a tennis star, Mike. They needed him on the team. He's finals. So you so you you're done high school, can go to college? Was it service? No? No, I wasn't gonna go fight for the for the white man, No way, not me. I was two millions militant for that. So I was stuck. And then one of my partners come along and h he showed me cocaine for the

first time. WHA, what year was this? Seventy nine? Damn, this is a year. Blow that was so did you because I mentioned the whole movie blow with Bosson Joe? Was that in your era? No? They was before me. So they were like, so this this ship started like sixty seventies. I think early seven. It was like early seven seventy three years for us, I might have been selling something Auston George just though for my heads Hu maybe maybe so you went to the straight powder up

it was that? Was that the popping ship back? Yeah? At first it was powder. I mean crack came about what they was already free basin, you know, you know, but they wasn't uh doing the rock form like we started doing it with bacon solda. The bacon Solda took it to another level. What how did it take another to another? Well? When when I first started, everybody was what they called eat the basin. And that's what Richard Pryor got burned up doing. And that's what they have

all of these chemicals on the table. You said, Richard pride that you sat what could beat it? They had up comedy. Do you get them any drugs? No? I didn't. Okay, can show you know that country get the rick to his pocket site he's dead. He got burned up, burned a couple of times. And the people they didn't really want to get burned up, you know, like I want to get high, but I don't want to get burned up, getting high, got that hot and he put himself on fire.

I guess that's what they said in the paper. That's how it's fun. You want to like put yourself on fire. Yeah. So then when when when we learned how to cook it with bacon, solda, you didn't need all that it was. It was a lot simpler process. And then we got so good at it and we started cooking ten keys at a time, you know, just throw them in a potting rock. That shut up? Like what kind of month? So this is just you like eighteen eighteen, this time

nineteen nineteen years old. Damn so nineteen you start with your partner um and you guys are is this this is crack ere now? Yeah? Yeah, well this is the beginning to crack. Crack. That was like that was a big across like eight early eighties, right early eighties. You got a crack baby, it was one he was think about crack. Ye boy, it must not be a Chinese drugs And what do you guys do Chinese smoke crack to? You got a Chinese cracker? Now you've seen uh tombstone, Yeah,

tombstone they've been smoking? Correct the funk? What the fun make a I'll beck up. I'm thinking to start to go to crack. You gotta like really be bored of weed. And I mean even heroin high. It's a good high crack. Yeah, that's what they say. Yeah, and I've never done correct, not getting the fun. I just cannot imagine that. What did they call it back then? You ever seen Tombstone the gangster movie? Nah? But where the Chinese were smoking something else? It was like I think the fifties, six

maybe forties damn all right? And then okay, so and then what's next? Let me see? So now you uh at that nineteen how much money are you making it selling those things? Oh? Man? I started off. Man, my first week, I might have made twenty bucks, but you know I didn't had nothing else going on? What twenty three was like five dollars right right now? Yeah? Because you could buy a car for six thousand, right, brand new seven dollars? Yeah? Maybe so I bought my first

car for a hundred bucks. How did you get that sixty six should be convertible? That's what they were going for, brand new hundred dollars, not brand back. I'm saying not that car is probably worthy. Wow, when do you get when did you buy your first car? What age? Well, I bought my first car when I was sixteen for hundred bucks. No, not that car, pay seven hundred for It was a Dots and B two ten. It's now

Nissan Michael Black and no more Doctors. My first car that I spent my money on was be with Skycawk. It looked at it just looked at pretty. But this car had Oh my god, it give me all the problems in the world. I mean, it was just like nineteen maybe ninety one maybe I bought this car and it was eighty two. It just looked beautiful. It was ten years that they had so much major problem. I end up just I don't even know what I even did with the car that was the first card bought.

But the first car actually drove was a nineties seventy two Duce in a quarter in the quarter. Yeah, absolutely so. I stole a Duce in the quarter one time. It's so freaking easy to steal because somebody still my fucking dudes on the quarter, you know it was. I wasn't

in California just for fun. I was in Philadelphia. So how I got this car where somebody My mother used to like do this living jobs, like you know, go work for these white folks and stay in the house and take it the old grandpops and then um they would give you know that pay. Healed weekly was like like an in house nursing, a type of a lot of foreigners. Yeah, a lot of furners did that job. But the bad thing about it, your your mother is pretty much gone for the week. You only see your

mother on weekends. So I was pretty much raising myself. I couldn't and I was who's a Philadelphia. I could have easily bend this fucking guy. Trust me. They wanted me to sell drugs, but who knows luck? I mean, how did You're not saying drugs exactly? Because I had a job. I was delivering. I was dealing pizza. I had a job a Domino's pizza from age fifteen all the way through like Michael Blackson, delivering pizza. I started off delivering on a bike because I didn't have a car.

I used to know a pizzas on a bike and man I got robbed twice. My my dumb You know what. The dumbest thing I did one time stop at the fucking lights. The light turned red. I'm on the bike and I stopped at the like a bunch of dudes just came and snatched a pizza from my back. From the back, I had the rack and I had hungry. I'm like, yeah, dad hungry. Like I had the rack and back of the bike so I could tie the pizza up on it. These dude just snatched a pizza

and took it with my pepperoni and sausage. Mike, if he would have met you, you would have been a millionaire. He would you have been delivering pizza with right right. His name would be mother. People been calling ahead, let me get the large co coroni. Yeah, it's a fisher. Mother suck at my Patreon pages. Now live my weekly Titty Tuesday. He towark on Thursdays movie exclusively to Patreon,

where they would no longer be sent. So about the social media companies, I would also be sharing dully updates plus show announcements here first see you on Patreon. Mother saw cuts. Yeah, you would have been the blessed employee. You would have given your bonus. Motherfucker that's stilled my dues in the quarter. That's how we got to do. Piece would have been mad though, because they have got the co Corona. And then that's that's one. And another

time I got. I was driving through the hood on a bike, so Philly, and like some dude just came by the mercy just sucker punch to shoot out of hit me so hard. Luckily for me, I stayed on the bike. I was, I was, I didn't, I would have fall up. I probably talking beat the hell up. Philly was rough though, Philly's roughest man. And that's I think that's what helped me become this great comedian I am today. Growing up in Philly, mother could punch the shot out of me. And then but so and he

hit me hard and I'll turn around. I said, that's all you got, you bitch. He started chasing me. I was speeding on that body. Neighborhood, you Philly. The thing my Philly is like one block in a good neighborhood, a block later you in the fucking hood. It's same way, like a lot of a lot of time. A lot of these colleges are like very bad block away from a bad neighborhood, like Temple University. A lot of big

good schools, you know in like bad neighborhood. It seems like Philly in South Philly is like a nicer neighborhood with Talians, real cool, and then two blocks later as a project. So now I go into a good neighborhood to deliver the pieces. On my way back to my store, I gotta go past the project. And that's where that ship happened. That was the second incident that happened to me delivering pizzas the money. The guy he hit me, and he he didn't hit me hard enough from the

far off the bike. So I kept going like he just came out the street that stuck a punch me, punching my face, and I just like looked back. I said, that's all you got, you beach, just like that, and I just kept going and they never you never caught me. And then nobody ever took I never took. Nobody ever like came and took money from nobody put the gun to me and took money. But I remember, like I said, my piecea got snached when I stopped at the light

one time. That was downtown Philly, broad daylight, two daylight, yes, and then the other thing was broad day like too. But then the worst thing that ever happened to me. It was a nighttime on a bike. Some white dudes driving the cards maze me and called me the en damn. Wow, that's really they're probably dead by them, yeah, because he probably makes the wrong person, Mr ru somewhere else. He's a very nice game, Mike. When you got bunches that how you had a gap on your tooth, that's not

the right time. No, it was something else. Man. Oh my god, that's the holding my shower. That holding show. I love this guy. Let's get back to this story. Um, let's fast forward a little bit. Eight children heard, eight kids, congratulations, But you know who have eight kids? My mother? My mother have a kids. Your mom have a kids? That like, wow, let me tell you the thing about having a children, man, you have as many as you can because all you need is one kid to be successful. And as a parent,

you're good. And it's you, Michael Black. My, Hey, my mom would have stopped I'm like number five when imer you I'm number two, number two right see, and you took it your mouth for a long If your mom would have stopped after who's your older your brother, sister, my brother? If your mom would have stopped at your brother, what do he what did he end up doing? What's he doing exactly? Your mom would have been fucked, you

know what I'm saying. So it's like, there's nothing wrong with kids people, you know, you know, I mean, I know, back of the day, when do you have your youngest kid? How are you? My youngest is eight years you know how how I don't want to talk about my age. No, no, no, no, he's twenty four. No how where you had your first cop child? That's what I'm saying. We're not gonna know was twenty four four? You know, twenty four that's a very nervous age. No man is ready to have a

kid at twenty four. Your party you're turning up, and especially if it's some girl you don't really like, do you you get pregnant? Pregnant woman you loved somebody you didn't really like? Yeah, I did love He looks like a very romantic man. Mr. Blockson County too. Yeah you do, like like the Cold forty five and ain't got Billy it's very romantic five. Um right, so all right, So at least I thought that I took care of her.

You took it, And I hate they think about our parents, man, And you know, and I had like friends in the hood. They're so dope and philly and like they took care of the mom and their mom just already. Just pray that the kid is okay. You know, you're not gonna tell your mom, Hey, mom, I'm selling crack. You know, you just like, hey, I'm into some business whatever we like at the end of the especially in the hood where mama got had no money. She's just happy to

get the money. She honestly, she didn't some mother. Did I really get how you got that money? You're just happy to get the money because it was hard to come by money living growing up poor and being in the hood. Did your mom know that you were delivering pizza? I was calling my mom. My mom is very happy because you got free pizzas every night. You're a nice kid, Mike. Yeah, man, I brought my mom free on shovies and pepper on your sausage and grand sausage and green pig. You're good kidding.

I'm a nice kid, Thank you very much. Man. And then all right, so eight children, um, all of them. You know you had some after you got out right, yeah too, yeah too? Afterwards? Is that the first thing you did when you got out, because I know you just want to get some you got you just like you know, was this somebody that you was communicating with while using the jail or just something love letter? No, no, I'll mess with no prostitute. Come on, man, anybody sucked

the prostitude at least once. I think my first I didn't. I didn't have I think my first got my dick suck was about a prostitute. Yeah, I was like seventeen, I was. I was so the thing about it my first time having sex. I didn't even I didn't. I was so scared to have sex. I didn't even have sex like she. I think the first woman was like I think, I'm not sure she sucked my dick, and I don't remember what so long I was seventeen years old,

I think you over to suck my dick. But I'm like, I thought sex was paid for the man when I was before I had sex around about my god, please don't hurt. I had no idea that it wouldn't to go through the pain we shove, the digging them. I'm thinking if she grabbed my dick, it's gonna hurt me. I said, please, don't hurt me. Yeah, there was no iPhone back then. Please don't hurt me. I'm just a bit auster. You got so you lost your virginity to us, uh working girl, and they think about Scott. I don't,

I don't. We didn't have definitely have sex. I think you opened us up my day. I'm almost certain that I just give this lady ten dollars and kicked out of my house. Wow, that was your one day work at the Dominus Pizza. That's like no, that was like a good five delivery tips, two dollars and two dollars some money? Uh eight children, younger, that's eight old as is whatever. We're not gonna talk about it. We'll drive

a figure, all right, So let's go back. I know your last time you went to jail using it for a while. Every bit of what was it was that I did two bits? Two bits? I did one five and eight months, and then I did fourteen and about six months, uh five, and the kid and I only stayed out six months. What's bits means? Now? It's bitcoin? No not big no, not big coin beats no beats what's beats me? And in bits? What the Chinese? It's more called doesn't matter. I thought he was gay. I

think he's in a girl. He was kicking people ask him. Yeah, but that was when I was fifty and sixty something eight and then I had a baby, and I stuff. Can you imagine being in fourteen years of your life being taken away from you? Like, what do you do? I mean, how twenty years? Twenty years? Mike? Years? Yeah? So how much time in between that you had? Did you go back? Like it was only our six months? So yeah, yeah you did? You did? Five years is

five years eight months? Five years eight months, get out six months later? All right? I know you go to if I spent five years in jail the first time, I set myself I'm going to fun back to jail, right, Yeah, I said that too. You said that unless it's just a bunch of pitches in it that we don't know about, you know what I mean? It's just like a whole different underground railroad that he was hanging out it for five years. He's like, you know what, six months later,

I'm going to back to the underground railroad. Strippers in there and vagina is cocaine, Mike. He had a lot of money back then. He gets but see you get you get addicted to to to selling drugs for real. Yeah, I mean you crave that ship like you literally is it because of the money, all of it. The money and the power of women. They're just everything. They go with it. It's a whole it's the whole package. We

go together. It's very powerful. I mean women at the end of the day, women love power, they love money, you know, they just they just like they're like a month a neggatives popping period. Trust me, women love whoever is popping, doesn't matter. Good girls, back girls, even richly success a girl college Brad. Everyone wants the man that's popping. I know a guy that's popping. His name is the African King of company. Michael Blocks on the number of Playboy made. He was like you back then, I had

a rough childhood. I didn't get now, I didn't I got no love. No, he was not young. He was already popping. So the first did five years? What did you? What did you do? How you got caught? What happened within the five years I was selling cocaine, I was selling your first time? Was that your first offense? When when you did the five years? First time? Going to jail. What they gave me five years? Was it a lot I was looking at I was talking at more. I was looking at more than five years. I got five

years because there was a group of cops. They put a group of cops together and they called him the Freeway Task Force. So they went to like for you. Yeah, they was to bring me down. So these cops they go rogue, they start stealing, whooping the ass. You see these cars in my face. All this from from from police therapy. Wow, that's police therapy. They handcuffed you and they fuck you out, and they steal your money and

steal your money, your money and drugs. They try to make you tell where the money is at, like slipping Stapley come in here, they rade the place, but ain't no money here because this is just a hangout. You know, we just kicking. Mike has a few dollars from the strip club the other day. They're coming to it and they need the couch. Yeah that's a yeah. So they come in, they raid and the money's not there. They

want to know where the money's at. So what they do they torture you, you know, put plastic bag over your head, take you, dip you in the water, you know, make you talk? Did it? Did you talk? That's no, they didn't. They never caught me like that. Oh that's just something that we're doing, just that they did this to my guys. But I was never I never got called. I turned myself in. The only time I got called by the police was when my connection set me up.

That was on the second bit. That's a big bite, so that this first, the first bit. Would you call it red handed? No, they never caught me with dog. WHOA? Did somebody snitch on you? You You think, Yeah, that's why that's how they catch you. Somebody snitch on was it back then? No? No, I'm just joking. No, who snitch do you know, sir? No, my neighbor, my homeboy? Whoa? Why the I mean, why did he what was he looking for a reward? Was he in the street? He

was looking at forty five years? Oh that's the reason why, I mean he end up getting at four. No, no, no, he went on went on the next day, he traded. He traded himself for me. Wow, you can do that with the fans, like the fans to say, if you get both your homeboys, we'll let you go five. Yeah, that's so sad. Wow, wow, And how did you? How did so? How did you? So? When did five years? Will you? Probably would you say you was at the top of the drug trade when you know, I quit

selling drugs a year before they got me. It's always like that. That's what happened to blow listen, so blow your mother. He said, I'm done. He went and he went, did one last deal. And but I didn't do one last deal. What they got me for is stuff that I had already done before. Do that isn't like the limitation like time is. But the statue of limitation is five years normally, but they can put in a special

request and ask for extra two years. But if they indicte you inside of that five years and and and they just don't catch you, then whenever they catch you it could be twenty years. And how are they able to prove that they were doing something that like years ago? Did they have cell phone? People tell them, oh, just based on the mouth, said just mouth, just like you know,

just think about it. Wow, took God, this whole me too, things with Bill Cosby and all these people's mouth and ten years, I mean, can they people just do that at it? Well? You know, they could do whatever they want. Michael Blackson, Oh, we have guests here today. Sorry about that. Man, that's crazy. Man um, So all right, so you wasn't you was? You said you was at it? Oh? Hey money, I like that? Sure, creazy TVT. What's up with you? It's just prints creativity? That's crazy. You could just yeah,

I hadn't. I hadn't sold drugs when when I went to Gil eighty nine. I hadn't sold drugs since like eighty seven, eight seven. So he was done. Yeah, I was done. I had enough money. I was. I was cool living your life. Yeah, I was living my life. How my eighty nine? There's how much money? Think you had? The what's considered has a lot of money? Could you have like two hundred thou No, I probably had in real estate, probably about twelve thirty million in real estate.

Did you used to own the W Hollywood back then? It wasn't built yet. This ship isn't Mike bought it for two million, four milia something. They didn't even have this here we're talking. He might have been a different store. Michael Fluxon, Hello, he might have owned the land or the land. Yeah, damn, you have millions of dollars, so you have like like you have houses and everything, houses, apartments, motails. In eighty nine. This guy's a fucking millionaire. He's the

jay Z nowadays. Oh can you imagine that you're on top of the world. He said, I'm done, because that's what a lot of these drug dealers. They just don't know where to be done, and that's how they get caught. This thing. I said, you know what, I am done, done done, And then the mother and you hater fucking it's always the neighbor. Something the neighbor. Yeah, I hate my neighbors, man, I don't want the neighbors. It was the cops. Yeah, the cops don't like him. The cops

don't like you, and they want to take everything. So so what they do is they find somebody that I know you and they get them and then they tell on you. Be what Chris Tucker did. Chris Tucker bought the houses next to him, so you don't have no neighbor. I'm gonna do that that way. That way. I'm about it too. When I get a lot of money about a big house and boy, the house next both next to it. Because the cops come and go to the other hub like, I'm the neighbor there. Come to this.

I'm the same Nagueu and Mike. I live in the other house. I want to snitch. No Chinese best friend, but memory like, who's Michael? Put your face in the plastic? Bad your snitch. We ain't gonna rent. You ain't gonna re innto the Chinese. I'm not into the Chinese. I know what crack hads back then. I'm not taking no chance. I was not Chinese smoke crack. He just told me that he's not. Back then, Mike, it wasn't. It was Filippino back then after I met you, big game Chinese.

But god, so, uh eight children? What can your kids read? What's going on with the kids? How they Oh yeah they can read, can read it right? Yeah, they're smart. My kids are smart. He was a smart man, the fu a man. I can't read it right, find twenty fine ways to have tell the real estate. Well, you know when when when it comes down to reading, what I found out it's a science to reading. You know, I thought I thought that when they just wake up and you can read. So I was always waiting to

wake up and be able to read right. I didn't know that you had to study that ship, you know, like you have to get there a b C S and study ABC. I thought I could just wake up and pussy just following my lap too. But I didn't have to ask you go get the woman do for you? Now? Yeah, Mike, I think we have one question. Did you have any

money somewhere? It's real estate? I uh, you don't have to tell us nor so no, with the bust him at and and and he got busted and whatever that year, that was no, no, no no, they didn't find no money. No, no no, no, no. The real estate yea before you when you have this towel million before the five year bit or after five year bit before before look at that game. So you have you have twelve million dollars um in real estate? Where we're having the money in

real estate? How's it? So? What did it? Did they come to get the homes some of them? And then the market crashed? Oh yeah, while you in prison and your family, you know, your family, they put in a a newspaper, Oh he's getting a life sentence. They they're just like sucking, ain't that's mine? He ain't coming out, that's in my name. I cut the grass, so was it? So did you put houses in different people's names? Yeah? You had to, you had to. Yeah, I couldn't show for you know

that kind of real estate, like where you're working. You can't work at Burger, can't making torment. And I never had a job. I've never feed out the application. I couldn't read remember, so I couldn't get a piece of job and be like, can I take the application home? Did you make a movie already? Sir? No, I haven't yet. We're working on that right now. He can play you? Am I gonna play? Man? I was a gangster in

the last movie called because I'll snitching myself. But it's just a movie, Michael Bloxon, I could be whoever I could want to be. You would be the best part. He's sucking four feet tall man, My dick is bigger than him. Mike, he went stoler back then. Okay, the cell is so loaded. You're a genius. You know what, You're a genius, A genius, Mike. You weren't tolder back then. I would and they feed you a bunch of no protein burrito in jail and a bunch of couple and

Peter soft too. Yeah, so you you go down. Look, how was lifeless about the first five years? How was life? Your first not been a jail? That your life you're doing five years? How when you first get into everybody knows you. I'm sure where where were you? Were you like Quantum of Phoenix, Arizona. They took the Arizona's girlfriend currently looked it looked like what the fund has to do with him? It looked like a college campus when I got there. So from the outside, it was beautiful,

beautiful place, brand new. You know, it was the beginning of them making all these prisons that they're making now. So so when I saw it, I was like, wow, this is better than my mama's house. You see that even had a new house smell from the outside like damn who built? And they had tennis courts, had basketball court and waits. Yeah, so it was all right. So you go in and the food wasn't bad either back then at that time. No, the food was all right.

Back then. They still had like steak and shrimp. His best friend, let's go kill somebody elseide, No, you don't want to go to jail now, oh yeah, they well, you know what else is good in jail? Right now, is you could get all four vaccine? Arkelly got four four Yeah, yeah, it's a true story. Can you know that I read the paper he could read He said he can't read it. No, No, I just yeah, I read the paper today. Arkelly got all the vaccine. You're safe out of Corona. Okay, So all right, you get

a jail everybody you're popular. Yeah, yeah, I'm cooling jail. It was a lot of the guys in Phoenix in California with you, Like Phoenix was a California prison. No one. They never put motherfucker's in the same city almost a lot of time. They don't unless it's a state that's federal. Well, California is different because there's so many guys from California going to prison that the California prisons are just overran Chinese crackheads. No, Mike, there was not many Chinese back then.

Mr Rossa m right, right, See, Mike, there was not many Cheney at that time. There wasn't many blacks in prison in federal PRIs so all the drug dealers what what tolls and like my people were Yeah, it was mostly when I went to the FIDDS the first time, it was mostly white collar crime, Like what what they're doing? I mean, you don't have ribery, real estate fraud, bank fraud, that kind of stuff. So you guys were are a bunch of non violent people. Yeah, for a while, and

then they changed the crack law. What is it? What is it where the crack law is? Where they started giving like if you have powder cocaine, you would get one sentence and if you had crack cocaine you would get a hundred times more time. So then they started snatching young black dudes off the street, gang bangers and you know, they could have what three hundred dollars worth of cocaine and they could get ten years. Wow. So all right, that the first of how life in jail,

the first time it was was as bad. I mean it was when when I went, I was still young, you know, pretty young, twenty eight years old, and I just played basketball and lift weights and and uh teach tennis, you know in the joint and just just chill. Okay, all right, So you did five, came out like a jail did it, and had I came up with some plans, you know, Uh, my plan was to come out and start a record label. You know I found alcoholics while I was in prison. He did remember the alcoholics, the

group I found him while I was in prison. The first time there were in jail too. No no, no, no, no, they were on the street. You and jail sighted motherfucker's I was in jail. I was in jail making deals. I mean because once once, once you get arrested, you don't want your life to stop. You know, you want to still become productive. You want to be productive. One of the worst things about being in prison is that you're no longer valuable, you know, and then that's when

your people start leaving you. You know, you win and stop taking your calls and you ain't paying no more car notes and the more house notes. So they're like, I ain't working with you either. You ain't working with me. I ain't working with you. The money gone. Everybody leaves, man, That's how it is. So you don't want that to happen. So what you do is you look for ways to be relevant. And um what I did is I saw the music business popping, so I started to to get

into the music business. And that was late eighties at this time, right, no, no, no no, no, no, nineties. This is nine nineties. Wow, so it was just ninety Oh da, that's that's a that's an era of ice cube. And you know, um n w A, Mike, you're not gonna right now, would you worry? I don't know. I got this from Target. Remember that's the um that's that's the movie. Um Boys in the Hood right there, and in the the nineties nineties that was a great music time. Man. Wow,

all right, so you do your thing. You got a whole fucking group by you in jail, I said, wasn't that bad at first five years you get out of jail? Was the first thing the day when you got out after doing five years besides against broak, some pussy, right yeah, immediately immediately do you remember what the girl looked like? But she do you remember that that first pussy we got our jail for the first that first five years, she had a fat as Yeah, absolutely was it Coochie shaved.

I'm trying to think hard didn't matter about she could have just had just a hole with noth again that he was just stuck it in anywhere because he just had to get some pussy, right wow. Um, so you guess some pussy. You probably got the witch breagnant right away to right. I didn't get a breakny pulled out or just condoms all right, so you get pussy, get out, you out of jail. When you got out that you have anything left? Yeah? Yeah. I had a theater, you know,

the theater on Adams and Crenshaw. Yes, yeah, that was mine. What Yeah, So what I was doing is I was gonna make it like a West Coast Apollo, and I is working on it. You don't know what the funk apologies was apologizing that Steve Harvey works there. I apologize, Yeah, rubbed the thing and then yeah, I watch, I watch, thank you man, I apologize on the under estimate your negle reality. If that'sn't even a word, that's the word thank you. Yeah. So, so I was working on that theater.

I was trying to put it together and trying to get it open up. I was gonna do. I felt that the theater would become the hub for rap music. It would be a stage that the place held like people. So it was that big. It's big. Do you know the real apologicis like it's like less than a thousand. It looks big on camera, but in real persons like no more than maybe twelf undred best. Not that big in person coming so big in come cameras anything, look

bigger camera, Steve Harvey's bigger will come wrong. Yes, you're like everybody looked big on camera on camera. I love like the kie. I haven't been in a comrad like. Yeah, so that's that was your plan. Yeah, that was my plan. That was gonna be how I was gonna work my way into the rap music. How much of your tore men out of real estate wasn't around? Not much? That

might have been the only thing I had. I might have had one other property a matter of fact, Yeah, I did have one other property that I didn't even know our owned. I forgot you owned it. Yeah, I forgot I owned and somebody was there just rent free. When you know, when I caught my second bit. When I caught my second bit, somebody wrote me a letter and asked me could they buy it? So then I had to call home and be like, hey, do I own that? He has so much fucking money or property?

You forgot what you owned? Man, maybe you're still on a little property, sir. I'm a title. You don't have dreams. I had dreams of that too. I could find it for you my real estate. You had dreams like when you go broke and be like, damn, I know, no, I don't forgot something. We you're gonna bro You start drinking, hoping that Lord just reveilled this to me one more time, one more time? Where did I leave that hundred dollar bill I had thirty years ago? I knew I had

it somewhere? God Like, he looks like he might own the Universal Studios. All right, so knocked out of jail? Not yet. They just did five years in jail. You get out, you got your movie theater. And then six months later, no, I them thirty motherfucker's mike, Let me tell you what you end up. Back they take a hundred kilos a cocaine and they dangle it in front of me. Oh like, come get it, Come get it? Motherucking Can I go beat them up for you? D ain't you got set about the police to suck? Whoa

whoa whoa hook back up? How did that gets in front of you? How? Because they put it on a rope and they throw it out there and they keep pulling the rope and you, yeah, I believed the deal was like, hey man, you forgot okay, come and pick tricked them pretty much. Yeah, And when they call you and they'd be like, okay, we said eighteen last time, what about fifteen? And then they show it to you again.

So I mean, was it because that the money? Like you just missed picking up hundreds of thousands at a time. I mean, you know, you know, you know, And I tripped out right when I got to jail, like I couldn't figure out how I had funked up and did that ship Like, like I knew had I not go to jail, I knew I'm going to be King Kong. I know there ain't no fucking body on the street

con funk with me. I know this right, And when you was in jail, because I heard when you go to jail, all you do is learn how to dude crime better? Is that what you learned? Did you talk to other drugs how to not get caught? No? No, no, no, no, I mean I could have, I mean, could have learned how to do better drugs, you know, because we're in there with the Columbian cartel and everybody. But no, that wasn't what I wanted to do. He's in jail's card

face all the mother all right. So I knew. I knew that that I was gonna be rich when I got out of jail. I knew I was gonna be rich because I know, I know that I have the recipe of of attracting money to me. Yeah, but I also had an addiction that I didn't really understand. See, I really love selling cocaine. It wasn't like, uh, if something went wrong in my life, I just gonna sell cocaine and make you feel better. It made me feel better. So it's kind of like a crackhead, like they got

it just as just as much cracker get addictive. Don't crack do a drug get addicted to? Absolutely my old lady arguing, I go, seel, cocaine make you feel But you know what, I that's so crazy that you know what I do to make myself feel better something, I go buy something. Yeah you were trying. He was trying to buy yesterday. I go, Mike, you don't need that one, you already have one, and then he goes, I just

feel like I need to myself. I work hard. Yeah, it's the same addiction, like it makes you happy, right, Yeah, yeah, Well that's the same way I did with cocaine. You know, Okay, I just gonna make an extra two hundred thousand, just that easy, and then boom. It was a trap. It was a tramp all the honey. You know what's the worst thing though, when you're sitting in court and you're listening to the phone conversation, Oh my god, and it's

motherfucker was recording all the conversations. Oh my god, and you hear yourself, you know, like he throw the bait out and he's like, I got save hone the keys and then you go back how much and you know, you know this always can say like that's not my voice. No they I mean you could try all accents on your give me that ain't me. That was their camera surveillance back then through they had cameras too. Oh yeah dah. They got you good. They got us good. And it

was like how many year was it? It was four of us and y'all all was you'll all God just got fucked. Yeah, I listen. No one one went home. The one who was driving the car with the dope in it, because you know, I never drive a car would open it. Oh they blamed the driver. No, the driver got off. Why he got off. He never talked to no police, was on no tapes. And then I told him because I hand him the keys to the car. I told him that when I gave him the keys, I never told him it was dope in the car.

You say, yeah, you're a good guy. Man, you're a good game. Mr. Kind of like Bobby Smurder, Bobby s murders, like they was gonna get Bobby Smurder six years but he decided, or five years, but he decided to take one more years so his guy could do less time what he was giving me life anyway, It didn't matter. It didn't matter what you know, like throw the book? How did that? I'm done? Did you failed in your heart? Knew you was done? Like what's your mind fucked up?

Do you ever contemplate like suicide? Anything? Nothing like that. I thought about escaping, okay, because right what the words put you back in jail for life? Right? Uh? Yeah? Did you try to escape? And I never had an opportunity, but if you wouldn't took it, Yeah, I finally got an opportunity. I would have took it. If the skate boys would have would have made a run, I was gonna run with him. And then what you think you would have done just ran the fucking finally went to Mexico.

Phoenix or you're in Mexico, you gotta connected with it. Well you you know, when you're in jail, you learning about Mexico and you know some of the other places, like they're not gonna find here freaking four ft black men and US five nine but five whatever you were. I think, I'm like, you're gonna just it was spotted as in the middle of a tacle festival or something. Did you did you ever meet? Alright? So, um, twenty years you come out now, you said myself, I ain't

definitely not going back. Oh no, I ain't do not cocaine. What's up, mother suckers. This is your African King up coming Michael Blackson. I'm here to ask you a question. Oh you subscribe to my podcast, The mother Stuck A Podcast with Me Michael Blackson. If not, you are missing out on the crazy interviews. They're exclusive behind the scenes content of my life and tons of celebrity guests. So

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Mike Rubin help you. So how did you get out? I learned how to read? Oh damn, there's fourteen years to learn how to read? Wow? So did you guys like start with the whole A, B, C, D, E F G. Yeah, with cards. I don't think you read grab a boo. Let's see if you can read this book. I have a book care from freeft ser if I can see it. If I can see it, I can read he's blind. My god? Did you pass your g D with the no? I didn't want. I don't want no g D. I read over three hundred books wow,

before I left prison. So when did fourteen years? First thing he did was come out, of course, and I don't I can't even imagine when that's fourteen years? Thank god us over. I mean you probably remember every day of it. At most hunts, no, none of it. I get guys calling me all the time. Man, you don't remember me. We was in he was in prison together. We walked the track together. Nope, trying to forget that quick, Mike. We still how did he get out? Just reading? Oh yeah,

how did you get out? Did your life? Well? What they did is they charged me on the three strikes. It wasn't four strikes, no, No. What I was able to do is show them that my first arrest, because they took me the multiple states. When I got arrested, and once they found me guilty on the first one, I was like, oh you run the time concurrent I plead guilty. You know, I didn't want to pay no

more lawyers. I got town of the lawyers, and you know, I'm ready to go to penitentiary and shoot basketball and hit some tennis boss. So I just started pleading guilty. So when I got arrested the second time, they had all these convictions. But what it was is, after I learned how to read, I find out that the law wasn't set up for you to be a career criminal with one arrest. You know, say instance, this how I

told my lawyer to orgue the case. Safe instance, if you're selling crack and you're on one of them hot spots, like we had spots in l A that would do a hundred thousand one day, so you may sell to seventy dudes in one day. So if I woke up one morning and and and and my son needed surgery, and you know I needed thirty thousand, and I know, go get it. So that one day, though, I make thirty sales. So each one of those technically different sales, different overacts. So the way they were doing it is

that that guy could be considered a career criminal. Mm hm. And I said that, No, you can't be a career criminal in one day. Ah one day? Well, well mine was one continuous criminal episode. I've never been punished. Nobody had ever told me, no judge that ever said, uh, selling dope is bad. So even though I sold dope for eight years, I've never been brought to my census. Boy told you it was a bad thing. Nobody ever told me it was a bad thing. Did you think

it was a bad thing. Yeah, that's that's why I quit. But I still don't don't don't make your career criminal. It makes you a continuous criminal spree. You know you're on a criminal spree. Yeah, Mike, Yeah, absolutely, that's what gonna say. Mike goes to shopping spree in Beverly is all the stores and now see if you go to shopping anonymous, then you take the course and they tell you, Mike, shopping is bad, don't do it no more. And then another six months you go back to shopping again. Now

you got to you got two offenses. Shopping screen is not a third one. You do it again after you've been punished again. The second time they punish you again, you go through the treatment, and then the third time you do it, you'll be a career criminal. So you no, I wasn't a career coming, did you. You've kind of like you sat in jail read about that, and I brought it to the course attention, and I want my pillow, who look at that great intelligent like man, congratulates a

great I got myself on the jail. Look at that ship, Mike. He deserves a goddamn Netflix special right now. Eighteen series a year from the fourth twelve from what eight years on my documentary stayed on there for a year and a half, Mike, you remember Cracking the System? Yeah, I said, on there for a year and a half and right now I'm I'm on Netflix right now. Crack Crack is on Netflix right now. Yeah. Series, No, it's just one one. It's gonna make a whole movie, all right. Um, you

got out after fourteen years, you got pussy first? Absolutely? Did you remember how the fun? Was it difficult? No? No, I don't think. I think. I think fucking is like riding a bike? Right, did you like? Did you how long did you last? Did you like? Not right away? And they get right away? I might didn't get in that's funny. Oh my god, you know you don't dream about pussy for fourteen years? Yeah? Absolutely, So let's go

to the you got out, You and jail. Every of course, every rapper thing is they associate himself with drug dealer. Every rapper want to be a drug dealer, gangster. You know Freeways from Philly. That's my homie, my homie too. Okay, is that how he got his name from you as well? Yeah? Okay? Did he like didn't have to like get permission to get he didn't get permission. But you know, when I was in jail, he wrote me, and you know, he told me, told me why you know why he had

named itself after me? And yeah, and then how about and then rick Ricky Rose Rick Ross. Whoa god, this is another one we have Rick Ross, motherfucker. So he didn't he didn't do the same. About what well, he was supposed to come to the jail and see me. Uh, he's supposed to send me some pictures. Mhm. He just said he probably got lied just to keep the name. He saying, yeah, yeah, wow, you'll never made up. No, we never made up. You gotta make up Rick Ross.

You know we didn't come to America together. He said, Rick Ross is there too. He gotta come into America. Well, you know, he's a coming to America. And then they used his house for um for uh some part of the movie. I heard it was a foreclosure for real, That's what I heard. Not anymore. Coming to America made him Now, he made him pay for the closure. You want me to be in this movie, I pay for closure. But we're gonna we gotta fix that, you know what

I mean. It's just just too short. Let's leave this earth all happy and feeling good. I'm happy, Mike I'm happy he's happy with Rick Ross, Michael Blocks, you're happy now. So now, um, before I asked my next question, what would you do to fix this US prison system? Like, what do you think it's wrong? I mean, look, he had this guy had to get himself out of jail. You know, he had to do he had to learn

how to read. I mention, if you couldn't read, it's been five we're really really I mean, the prison systems could could could definitely be overhauled. I mean they could take him from being a warehouse to being really like a college. You know, my prison sail became my dorm. You know. I took that time and I studied the book at the book, at the book, at the book.

You know, once I learned that it's crazy, right when when I when I analyzed why I never read, and I found out that I never had a reason to read, so I never wanted to read. So if somebody would have tried to teach me to read, I never would have. Probably I didn't care because it was like, what the

Funk'm gonna doing reading? I'm but once I went to prison and I found out that I needed to read in order to get out of prison because they say the only way out of prisoner student all I bury in and you can't function in a lot of I berry if you can't read. So immediately I learned how to read. But then I found out that anything that you want to learn, anything that you want to know how to do, all you have to do is get a book. I need to teach you. There's nothing that

a man hasn't done. It when whenever he does something, he writes about it, he takes notes, So you literally could go to the library. I found out that the library is one of the richest places in the world. It is books. Yeah, but look at this here. Let me tell you this. Here one of my favorite books. It costs three dollars, this fucking book. To me, it's worth a billion dollars. The game what's the name of the books? A man think? As a man think? James Allen?

The book is unbelievable. So so three of the books I read crazy the game it gave me because what I do is when I read, I look at my own life and I try to see how I fit into that, what character fits me, you know, Like I don't want to read no book that I don't see a character that favors me. That's why I didn't wan't care about Jack and Yield and all the other motherfucker's because they didn't look like me. I didn't have a dog named Spot, So I didn't want none of that.

I didn't want to be a part of it. I mean, and that's probably why most black kids don't function in school. Well we're reading, because they don't want to read about Jack and Jill. They would rather find out what happened to homeboy down the street, whom I look up to? You, who's driving that nice car. So when I found out that you could get game out of these books, because

books got game, I fell in love with reading. I read Richest Man in Babylon Times, Think and Grow Rich by Napoleon Hill, so books that that ain't draw But it it's like a movie. Could I just keep watching? You know? It's not a movie. It's like it's like when you play tennis, you work on your forehand, you hit the hunt times. So we read a book. Every time you read it you learn something, Like you learn something,

pick up something that you miss, you miss something worse. Wow, man, Hey, it's just like it's just like like I've learned how to like Mike. I brought you into my life, so you probably felt we just bumped into each other. But when I got out of prison, I wanted to meet mother fucker's like you. I appreciate that. Man. It was certain people that I had already focused my cell phone. These are the kind of people I want to be around. People that's going places, it's doing things. Did you like

who are the other people? Who are other people? Did you? Did you said I want to like collect? Did you get to meet what's the wasn't already? Yeah? I meant a lot of them, a lot of the most fake motherfucker's zone. Did you think about any Chinese friends in the future. No, I never had a Chinese friend in my life. I could be a friend. Yeah. The car, it's fine, you can drive the car. You don't do the yard. You do yards. He will never like the Chinese people used to do the yard back then. What

now you own everything? You're on the whole world, They on the whole dump thumb, that's everything. The whole American they say, they say, they say America is like forty trillion dollars, and then with China, that's what I heard, but you got stock in that company. No, I have zero dollars. That's why I worked for Michael Blocks on the Mother Soucker podcast. It was not one of the lucky Chinese. So now you took uh the ship that got you in job. It's legalized, well not it was.

I think we have a legalized cocaine thing. They should. It's choice that people get, you know, and give them and give them treatment. Yea, give him treatment, I agree. So now that's it's not it's not a criminal cocaine somebody getting high on any drug. I don't care what it is. It shouldn't be a criminal offense, right. It should be something that if your brother was on on on cocaine, you wouldn't want to go and just lock him up, man, lock that mother. No, you want to

get him to help. So how abouty got to selling it to him? Since it's gonna make him need help? How about the guys selling to him? It ain't his fault though, who you got to selling until your brother is not? It's not that it's not he's just trying to make some money. Your brother probably begged him to sell it. A matter of fact, your brother might have even went further than that. Your brother might have taught him how to sell it. Damn se because crackheads taught

me how to sell cocaine. They wanted me to sell cocaine. You know why, because they want of mothercker. We wasn't gonna rob him. I was gonna give him what they posted gut every time they got it. Was gonna treat him with respect, and that's all I did. And they loved me. Yeah, he was. He was the best drug dealer of error. Man. I wish you would have seen me some cocaine, but I didn't know. I don't mean I don't do drugs. You've been selling cocaina. Put the

pizza would have been a different name. So now you have l a you you now you legalized weed. That's that's a good step, and you took advantage of it. You are you got your first? Is that like a license? You have to get there? How do you how do you get a drug license of being? We took seven years? Yeah, damn it took seven years. A lot of fighting with downtown. You know they didn't they didn't think that. Then they

tell you how crazy these people were. First of all, we got people that never smoked marijuana, never sold marijuana, making the loss from marijuana. Wow, so your motherfucker's know nothing about marijuana. What the funk are you doing talking about making laws? So we had to get that out of the way. You know, they all say they never smoked, but we already know some of them. MoU smoke. Bill Clinton smoke, but he didn't heal, and I didn't help.

I'm smoked never, I didn't help. I don't know. I accidentally did drink something while I was in Ghana and I got sucked up and I would never do that again. So you got motherfucker's downtown who never done nothing with marijuana making the loss. So when we go in, my argument with him was, Okay, you're gonna give all these motherfucker's that didn't go to jail a license. But with Southern marijuana when it was illegal, they never paid their debt to society. But somebody who went to jail paid

his debt to society. You're saying that he can't come out now and get a license. And you know, we're so, what did you put the plazza back with their face and shove them under the water. How did you get them to get a license? That's how we did it. I was there in that meeting, Mr. He was there, friends a lot of downtown fighting back and forth. You ain't got locked up for a king Pin. That's the that's the name of your that's one of my brands. I got two brands. I got l A keen Pin

and Freeway. Whoa which one was doing the best right now? Was was better the other? Well? Freeway is it is a little stronger because of the deal I made with the company than I'm working with and working with the Cure Company, which is probably the biggest indoor we grow in in in the world. Maybe he's definitely in the top three or four. Is in California. He's in California. Same company that got the Marathonald g Oh, the same company that that Nipsey's company is with. Uh so, so

they got a lot more power. L A king Pin is all mine, you know, nobody no partners, got partners. L A king Pin is all all you. All right, So we're pushing that morning. We gotta go. Congratulations with both of them, both of them. I'm gonna be I'm My goal in the marijuana is to be on top, you know, I only want to be number. Would you bring us something? You know I'm not gonna hell that. Did you bring any Yeah? What about your congratulations? Mr?

Rick Ross? And I brought you from presidents too, Presidents of Presidents for Michael Block cycle back and I know I know how you like pussy. I just hope you don't need it. Yeah. Look we got a president. Mike the Blocks and Angels now work for freeway. Better better I take my my angels please. I would snitch on him right back to jail. I'm like I saw Rick Ross selling crack cocaine, crashaw and Slawson. I'm taking my

angels back. Can we can we get one away? Oh? Michael, you know what, I gotta go blue because he said he was he's going to join. He's gonna be a blue. Give me the blue and give China what you got? Is there different things? Wow? Deal or no deal? Michael Blocks and Deil thanks for the present. Mr Rick Ross. Yes, yes, And by the way, you're more handsome than the other Rick Ross. Okay, thank you. He's also But you know, Mike, Mike, Mike has made ugly in the new thing. Now now

you want to be ugly. That's rightly is a new cute ugly man in styped. Now let's see this is all right? This is uh that's a battery. Yeah, that's a battery, Michael Blexon. You need to charge it, wow, to charge the vapes? Right, apes, babes. That's no week. No, there's weeding there. This is the week. This doesn't I'm not I'm not a crackhead, Mike. That's not crack. That's that's marijuana. It's medicinal. It's good for stress. I've read a lot about it. I've read a lot about it online.

Good for your nerves. Yeah, and which one I got? The two kings of vapes? What's this other one? That's box the condoms? What is this? Should I put condoms in there? We should bread pot condom. That way, when I get happy forget, I can forget who I fucked. You know what. That's actually good idea. Uh cbd, because I ugly bids I can forget that. We would make me forget. No, you can say you was hot. That's actually a great idea, Michael Blackson, thank you. Mr Rick

Ross will trademark that Tomorrow's no doubt. We got to put condoms in here. Yeah, some kindom like maybe I made on the side. Well, it was a great show today and learned a lot blacks and angels. Blacks and angels here today. This may be in the jail with twenty years. Can he gets them? Can somebody go let you out look on my table for my dollar bills or the other one? Is this one gets some music? No? This man, I know he's been out of jail for years. Twenty years in jail. I'm gonna need a work for

this guy. Please, So it's okay to play to her, timber. How about now we'll fix it. I played the soccer soccer something. We'll just mix it up. What mix it up? Do you see my singles over there at all on the table? No, No, he's gonna go look on if you see any Mr Rick Ross, you should make marijuana. Yeah, mother sucker, no hony. Can we talk with this guy, he's in jail, Mr come along, shucker soccer sucker, sucker, socker baby. Yeah, I know, shock shot, shocker, shocker, shocker,

shock socker, socker, socker shocker shock. So where water sucker, mother sucker, sucker mother with Michael Blacks, we got we gotta go your social media and all that stuff. Listen like the Father. You learn a lot today. My god, I'm just ready. I'm ready for this episode air right now. We're so good, right now, everything in on cut. Give him, give him your I how to Ross rebing Mike. Um, he's on social media heavy, no doubt, no doubt. You can check me out and at freeway. Rick Also, I

got two great fighters. I'm gonna have the best two fighters in the world. Go check out my two fighters. Uh not fear Charles out of Philadelphia, Yo, little homeboy. He just won his first belt last Saturday. So he's a he's a world champ. Also, kid Austin, he'll be fighting on Telemundo this Saturday. Uh so check him out as well. And you give me a freeway Ricky on Instagram, freeway, Ricky Ross on Facebook. And that's it, all right, And we're gonna try to wanna get that series of that movie.

You gotta get that ship. And I'm glad you guys working on your story is so amazing. Of course, shout out the Blacks and Ages. Thank you for bringing it down. Helping mouth followed Kiki at Key should have been a comedia I should have been a comedian man, Okay, and then nay, give me Nadi Milano and a d I Milano like the city. You sound forn Yes, she's like from a small tongue called Italy. No, he's like Italian and like Northern Africa, Egyptian. Yeah. International, Yes, we appreciate

everybody as well. What are you and Portuguese? Chinese? Oh? Hey, there's two Chinese people in the house. She doesn't look Chinese and you don't have Chinese either. Chinese best friend? What's your my ig? Chinese best friend? Michael Blackson, Thank you all for having us, thanks for joining us. We'll see your next time. Mada suck out with Michael Blackson. H

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