Greg Kamradt: Benchmarking Intelligence | ARC Prize

What makes a good AI benchmark? Greg Kamradt joins Demetrios to break it down—from human-easy, AI-hard puzzles to wild new games that test how fast models can truly learn. They talk hidden datasets, compute tradeoffs, and why benchmarks might be our best bet for tracking progress toward AGI. It’s nerdy, strategic, and surprisingly philosophical.

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Greg has mentored thousands of developers and founders, empowering them to build AI-centric applications.By crafting tutorial-based content, Greg aims to guide everyone from seasoned builders to ambitious indie hackers.Greg partners with companies during their product launches, feature enhancements, and funding rounds. His objective is to cultivate not just awareness, but also a practical understanding of how to optimally utilize a company's tools.He previously led Growth @ Salesforce for Sales & Service Clouds in addition to being early on at Digits, a FinTech Series-C company.

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Website: https://gregkamradt.com/

YouTube channel: https://www.youtube.com/@DataIndependent

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Timestamps:

[00:00] Human-Easy, AI-Hard

[05:25] When the Model Shocks Everyone

[06:39] “Let’s Circle Back on That Benchmark…”

[09:50] Want Better AI? Pay the Compute Bill

[14:10] Can We Define Intelligence by How Fast You Learn?

[16:42] Still Waiting on That Algorithmic Breakthrough

[20:00] LangChain Was Just the Beginning

[24:23] Start With Humans, End With AGI

[29:01] What If Reality’s Just... What It Seems?

[32:21] AI Needs Fewer Vibes, More Predictions

[36:02] Defining Intelligence (No Pressure)

[36:41] AI Building AI? Yep, We're Going There

[40:13] Open Source vs. Prize Money Drama

[43:05] Architecting the ARC Challenge

[46:38] Agent 57 and the Atari Gauntlet