Deborah, with her thirty years of being an ltrepreneur and creating over seven companies, knows exactly what it means to accept the mission. When you make that decision, when you accept the mission to become a solopreneur, to take yourself and your talents to market, then you embrace a life of not only unlimited possibilities, but also the unknown. It's an elixir of fear and bravery that
only someone who's taken the leap really understands. On our show, deb digs deep with her guests to highlight what you the listener wants to know the stories, the whys, and the hows to navigate the journey to success. Get ready to hear from some of the most incredible mission takers from Generation Z to boomers. So sit up, perk up, and get ready to be blown away. Now here is your host, Deborah Drummond. Welcome back to the Mission Accepting Podcast. And you thought, oh my god, Mission accepted.
What's that show all about? Well, you've probably heard in our trow that we talk to the most incredible people that have decided to take on the mission. I mean, whether it's a project, whether it's a business, whether it's philanthropy, and if you've been hanging out with us for a while, you know that we actually take on the mission and we do incredible things with
incredible people, and we love to highlight them. So you guys being not only the best podcast audience and I tell everyone that, so there, you're also the most studious and gosh, you just love books. You love to read books, you love to take an information. You're always sharing your favorite books with me. And just for you, we brought Trish Springsteen back and if you do not know who she is, this is the second out of her, the second time that we've had her back on the show. A
lot of you are becoming first time authors. A lot of you are understanding, and we're going to dig into that a little bit today, like braving up and you know, being and putting yourself out there in terms of words on paper, that process of what you go through and you do that. And I was like, Hm, who could I get to share this conversation.
I mean, I've been fortunate enough to be in numerous books and I'm kind of putting this little book together of two hundred and sixty two women, and I'm like, which one of those women that's going to be in that book that's going to be launching International Women's Day twenty twenty four. Hint, hint, take the day off and come join us. I think it's the woman who's been in. Oh, I don't know, a few books, maybe one, maybe two, maybe nineteen. Yeah, you heard that right,
So Trish, let's dig in a little bit. You are a speaker, You teach people to speak, you are a mentor to so many people. You've won awards around inspiration, you have taken the leave, and you talk a lot about courage and I mean, I know, even writing a book when it's you know, an anthology where you're collaborating with your tribe, those quiet moments that you need to get that words, that get those words out, it takes some courage, which I know that you went deep in
on a show previous. So if you guys haven't watched it, you need to be createdous. Go watch it. But trash nineteen books. Let's have a conversation girlfriend, Oh nineteen books. You know, I never even thought that I could be an author, Absolutely no concept on that at all. I read My fullback for relaxation is reading and it's not business books. People ask me what do I read? And whenever someone asked me what's your most
recommended business books, I'm in trouble with me. Reading a business book is just glancing straight through. I had my business books there and I'll skim them. But if I want to relax, which is as an introvert, I want to be by myself, I read science fiction, fantasy, paranormal wear, wolves, you know, shifters, psychics, because I want to be in another complete world. That's where I go to a lax and that's where I get all my energy back. And I read too much. I have
a library of over four thousand books. So like, okay, I know that you have a husband that adores you, dotes on you, supports you, rock stars you where are those four thousand books? Like did you talk him into building another house or where do you have those books? Like there's a library out there that's just they're like, oh, let's get it over the floor. Sorry, nice stacked up and they have Okay, Look, when we buy houses, it's not how many bedrooms. It's not what's the
kitchen, like, it's where can I put my books? Is there rooms? Agents? Yeah, that's it. Where can I put my books. If I can't put my books, We've had to downsize. So I had four thousand downsize to two thousands, and I think, actually it's back up there again because I'm starting. I keep buying books, and I have a kindle. Before anybody says, you know, there's a kindle tree physical books, I have a kindle, but I still like my physical books and I
don't. I just wanted to divert there and see what, see how how you manage that? But because I also do have mine stacked on the floor, like I stacked mine up and I think it looks really groovy. So look, if you don't have books on the floor, you're really missing a really great, great way of doing something like That's like that's relation design. People like get on the program. So yeah, the concept of me writing
a book, yeah, I read, I don't write. Now. When I started my business, my then business partner, we were told about a year after starting, if you really want credibility, you should have a book. Now. I thought that was probably a good idea because I researched a little bit and my business partner, I are lazy. We do not like to reinvent. I don't like to yea reinvent things. So we looked at each other and say, okay, we need a book. We're not going
to write the book. We've been blogging for twelve months. So what we did was we took our favorite blogs from the year, we changed the titles, we tweaked the bit, and we had our book in thirty days. Great ticket off. Of course, I learned a lot of lessons from that. Because this is going back about two thousand and seven. You had to go to big publishers, so it costs an enormous amount of money. We put a trust in a publisher which is probably not the right publisher for us.
So we have a book. It's got beautiful content. The cover is probably not the best because we thought he'd help us with that, but he didn't. So we took our designs, which hey, we're not a graphic designer, but anyway, and the title is probably not the best. And we had like boxes and boxes boxes of these books, which, to tell you the truth, I said two thousand and seven were now in twenty thirty. I think I've still got about sixty of these books. I'm trying to
give it up anyway. But the perfect that's the perfect story, because we know a lot of people that I'm like, if you have books under your desk or in the closet, like you can do refresh and you can't restart, and you can still you and I commend you because you are one of many people that had that. You never want to do a book again, because I've got boxes of them still in my closet. So you did it again. So yeah, I mean at that stage, I thought, we've
got our book. We don't need to do anything else. About a year two years later, someone said to me, you need a book of your own. That was our joint book. Wow, we can help people. Okay, again, I don't like to invent the will. So it was about speaking. I could speak well, I put together bo. Yeah, look it's this one. It's this book and that to discover. When I first did it, it had a different so I've invented the cover later when I got further story. So now I had our joint book and that I
thought, okay, we had ticked off that column. I do not have to write another word other than in my blogs. So fast forward, really fast forward many Manyes, about five years ago. That's time my business partner I had split amicably, and that my business had changed its focus a little bit more to more mentoring, and it was just me and I was able to brand the way I wanted to, which is my purple. And I got asked to contribute a chapter to a book in America. Now Here I
am confident I could speak. I'm believing in myself. I am not a writer and by the way, I'm not an author. Yeah, okay, I've got two books. I'm not an author owned that author bit two books and I hadn't owned that a the book, So think about that and I'll come back to it. So I said, okay, no, I'm not doing it. I had to speak. Thank you very much. I love the fact that you asked me. And then they came back, and then they came back, and about that I had my mother aha moment and like,
oh, Trish, you're not walking your talk. You should be. You tell people to take grab opportunities. So I thought, oh, we will contribute a chapter. It's a book in America. Nobody in Australia is going to read it. So if it's really awful, if no one's going to know, no one's going to know. Because I had no confidence that I was the writer. People. Remember, I didn't think I was an author, even though though I had two books, So that was a big
mistake. People read it in Australia, Australia, so they liked it. So in those last five years I have been a contributing author. I have co authored and written seventeen books. Because what that did was it broke that mindset, that block. I had to sit back and say, well, hey, Tricia, you know what, you probably are an author. And I realized that what I did, if I was going to write, all I had to do was channel my speaking, threw my hand onto the paper,
and I write like I speak, which is conversational. It's authentic, it's genuine, it's me, it's what's and all. It may not be the most perfect writing, and that's what an editor is for, because I love editors. That picks me up, but it's me. And so that broke the damn And since then I have pretty well, I've done too. I've facilitated to compilation myself. Yeah, a lot, a huge lesson by picking up another project that someone dropped, and that's a story in itself mm
hm. And I'm a currently inviting to other books. So there, I mean, there's lots of lessons that happened and lots of lessons to be learning. Me There's one, for example, picking up a project halfway through that wasn't yours. You know, maybe not a great idea, who knows how it's going to turn out. Could have been the best thing that ever happened, or the worst thing that ever happened, but you braved up and took
it. Once you get into the habit of something and you break that barrier for yourself, Like you said, you weren't owning that you were an author, and you hear the word just a lot. Well, I just contributed a paragraph, I just contributed a chapter, I just co authored, And I would encourage people to take that just out of there, because only three percent of everyone whoever has wanted to be an author has actually stepped up to
be an author. And when you're hanging out in the world of knowing people that are collaborating or writing their own book, it can somehow feel like everyone's doing that, but that's not the case. And to be able to I mean, let's talk about a little bit about the advantage that people don't even realize. I mean, I talk about. I mean, I'd love to
when you say what that has done for you? What that has done for you on the inside, making you more competent, making you more comfortable in your own skin, braving up. People have written things like, you know, we just I talked to an author yesterday. We just had her on the show how here she is at seventy seven years old and was brave enough to put something in her book that she may not have been brave enough to
do. You know, something that happened when she was in nineteen sixty seven, Like I think the cathartic personal development that happens, but also the business exposure, the business development when people go and I don't know where all your books are, and you can share that with us, please do so people can go and look. But it is very branding. I think it's very
telling. It tells people like, this woman's collaborative, this woman's willing to step up, this willing woman's I mean, never mind that you have purple hair. I mean that that helps too, But you know, there's got It's like it shows bravery, it shows courageous courage, It shows that you're willing to step up and step out and I think that there's all sorts of subtle messages, including being able to I mean, I have a podcast, I have a company. People send me their book. I don't forget who
they are. I do not forget who they are. Right I read either a chapter of a book, a piece of a book, or the whole book, and tell me what you feel has been some of the benefits for you around from a business perspective a personal perspective, because you know, for the average person, they're saying, well, that's a lot of books. But and it can be if you want it to be. You know, but tell us, I mean, tell us what you're experience. Honor someone
who didn't think they were an author. To my view now is where I absolutely am passionate about the fact that every single person has a story inside themselves that they need to write. And whenever I'm with any of my mentoring clients I ever had with anybody, I say you need to write, and they say why, how I don't want to write? I can't do it. I'd just say five hundred words a day for thirty days is a fifteen thousand word book. That is a normal, reasonable size book. You can have
your book in thirty days. You don't have to start from scratch. You can go and find all the things. If you've done videos, if you've done blogs, you can repurpose them into books. So my view then is that I talk very passionately about a book because I think it's a legacy. People don't throw books away, put them on the shelves. They may gather dust, they may skim them. Yes I've skim my business books. But they're still there and they may give them away to other people. They may
end up in a second hand bookstore. And you know what sends shivers down my back every time I share this thought is the thought that sometime twenty years down the track, maybe even thirty, someone walks into a second hand bookstore because they'll still be around, and they pick up one of my books and there may be a passage, a paragraph, a chapter that they needed to
read at that particular time that changed something in their lives. Or they went on too Amazon and downloaded one of my ebooks, because they'll still be around. And to me, that is why I write. It's not you know, the credibility comes because face with people, when you've got author up there and someone wants to go and work with you or wants to talk to you.
If you've got an author and someone else hasn't, the perception is that an author has credibility that actually, as you said, put themselves out there, they're going to go to the author. That's why I've got to own it. But for me, it's the legacy that I leave. It's the same ways when I speak, the thought that there might be someone who hears those words. So it's never about me. It's never about me the author. It's about me being able to give the opportunity for someone to go to
that book and need what they need at that particular time. And when I really started to own in the last five years, that that's why I write. I'm very discerning now a bit more on what chapters I contribute, because you can get overwhelmed by doing lots of chapters. But let me say right now, categorically, I don't care if you've contributed three sentences to a journal that someone has published, you are an author. You need to sit up
and have the courage to say I am an author. Whether you've it's three sentences to a journal, whether it's a paragraph, whether it's a five hundred word chapter or one thousand word chapter, or whether you've co authored, you start somewhere. As soon as someone takes your words and puts them in a book that other people buy, you are an author. And I yes, it took me all those years, from the first two books that I wrote
up to about five years to realize that. So that's if you take no other message from listening and watching me today, just own being an author because it's a legacy. It's a legacy, and I can beat your friend, your person that you did last year. My mum is eighty eight this year. Last year, at eighty seven, she published her first book, Fantastic,
So freaking proud of her. It's a fiction book. Yeah, it's never too late and it's never too early, you know, people like I haven't yet, Like you know, how many words can we put into Yeah, but I shouldn't entern a ward because I haven't yet. I shouldn't done it because yet, right, And then there's the other side of it. It's like, well it's too blank late, I'm too blank late enough,
already enough already. If there's anything that you know we have shown in the world so far is that it's never too soon, and it's never too late, So let's now. Now is the time to do it. Just now, I'm going to sit down, stop scrolling and put a few words to paper. So and there's even programs that can help you with that. Look, I know that you're going to be coming back and we're going to be having another conversation. But look, you have many books that have had many
different, multitude of different reasons to read them. You talk about some personal, some business, and otherwise. So just please tell everybody where they can go to find your books and see which one they want to purchase and read today, sek just above the my webs side twisch Springsteen dot com. You go there, you put twisch Springsteen dot com slash books and you'll find all my books awesome, and we're going to have that in the show notes as
well. And look, but Trish said yes to me. I met Trish at an incredible event where it was just super fun and it was virtual. Obviously I'm in Canada, she's in Australia. Not that it had to be that way, because gosh knows, this woman is going to be with me on May eleventh, the final summit to the you know, what should we say the two sixty two project Part one? Who knows what's going to be
Part two? But anyway, so she will be Vancouver, and I've been to Australia a number of times, but she is going to be authoring in the two hundred and sixty two Women Entrepreneurs, Alentrepreneurs, Creatives and Media Leave Legacy, Rock Legacy and tell All and she will be happy to be able to sign that book for you. And if you've if you want to be in a book with us, which honestly lucky you, lucky us, please reach out. We still have spaces for the book as we speak, so
just reach out and we'd love to have your story as well. Thank you so much for sharing with us today. I have to say you are the first author that I know that has accomplished that many books. So I'm gonna I'm not going to try to do nineteen, but you have inspired me to continue to say yes as I've been saying yes. And thank you so much for spending time with us today. I just love your whole message. Everything behind your message is all about courage and all about gumption, which is why
I adore you so again, it's Trishspringsteen dot com. If you want to be sitting Maurtricius and doing a show, if you want to come into our book or come on to our stage, please reach out. You know where we are. This is not difficult. It's Debitt dev Drummond dot com or deb Drummond dot com. I love how we both have our names for our sites. Super easy And until then, you guys, be well and stay gruby. Bye for now,