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¶ Maura Murray: Case and Podcast Goals
Mora Murray was born on May fourth, nineteen eighty-two, in Hansen, Massachusetts. Of twenty one she was five seven and a hundred and twenty pounds. On february ninth, two thousand four, in Haverill, New Hampshire, Marie crashed in the Carr. R on Route one hundred twelve. There has never been a confirmed sighting of Mora since that night. Please. This is the missing Mora Murray part. Podcast. Welcome to the Missing Mara Mari podcast. I'm Tim Pilary and I'm here with Lance Reinsterner.
Hey Tim, how's it going? Pretty good Lance. Uh this is the first episode of our Missing Mora Murray podcast and we decided to do a podcast. Why, Lance? Well, maybe we should start talking a little bit about the uh the documentary that we were working on. which has been about two years, year and a half in the making. Um, we knew that it was going to be
a challenge and I guess we'll get to those challenges in the episodes uh coming up. But we knew it was gonna be a challenge. It turned out to be um a significant challenge and the podcast you really have a lot more control over what you wanna say. Mm-hmm. And it seems like a good vehicle to at least get Get the story out there in a different way.
And to get the the feedback and the uh the information from people who wouldn't typically want to be on So we're kind of branching out in in a different medium in addition to a documentary that we're making in order to get uh new and different fans, but also potentially people who are interested in contributing to the documentary. Correct. Correct. Yeah. People who uh like I said, typically wouldn't uh want to have their face associated.
Um and as as we'll we'll find out as we move along, this is uh This is something that is really polarizing. This is something that a lot of people love to talk about behind their keyboard and their computer screen. Uh b and once it comes down to They don't want to lose their anonymity. Exactly. Exactly. And it makes sense. It's it's a spooky story. There are some questionable characters involved, for sure, who may be listening at some point. Hopefully. So, uh let's get into a sort of a
surface level introductory episode here for this podcast. We're obviously gonna get a lot deeper in future episodes and, you know, I d we don't even know how many episodes there will be and we'll have guests. We'll we'll get as deep into this as we can. We're filming this to potentially use some of this in the documentary. So, Lance, let's let's talk about what happened.
Um now I l sort of a sort of a surface overview of the story um of Mora Murray. And then we can go back and do it chronologically, tell the story. Sure. So starting right from, hey, you don't know who this person is, and you have somehow found this name more. Uh she is probably one of the first or most at least the most popular uh missing person to be uh when you're searching missing missing persons.
Uh the the disappearance happened in two thousand four and you have to think where the internet was in two thousand four. It was right at the birth of Facebook. Um I think it was only a few months later. It was like during that time that Facebook uh started but it wasn't uh wasn't nearly to the point where it would end up. Um so social media wasn't there. Uh cellphones were were s were were not um As commonplace as well.
Place. Yeah. I mean you weren't texting like crazy. And uh you could really go and get yourself lost, which is uh to do, but my point is that if this is the first time that you are looking up her name. Uh, you really have no idea what you're about to uh get into when it comes down to the story. Uh she In the beginning stages of this, of the disappearance, um, of trying to find her, of uh the information that was online about her, uh, she was
all that information was delivered in such a way where it made her look like she was the all American girl. And then the more investigation and the more Um, you know, the armchair detectives started to look into this, it turned out that she was not only not the all American girl, but she had her problems. Mm-hmm.
¶ Armchair Detectives and Misinformation
The people who do this on their spare time. Uh they they they tend to do all of their investigation Uh through the internet. They are not professional detectives. They it's something that starts as a hobby and gradually grows into something um something more obsessive.
Uh and there's different levels of armchair detective. There's there are the ones that that sit back and kind of peripherally look at all the information and make their own uh judgments. And then there are people uh who we'll get to uh later on that that do something about it, whether that's good or bad. I'm not, you know, giving the opinion either way, but they do back up what they what they uh what they write about or what they talk about.
Is it safe to call us armchair detectives with a camera? And a microphone? Yeah, I would say for a time, I l I know at least I was. Um, I'd say for a time, yeah, I was definitely an armchair detective. And definitely one of the people that that didn't know what to do, other than it was a you know, it was a really interesting story and then there's another level of that that they go out and do it. Um, we've definitely teamed up with the more
know, intense version of the armchair detective. Uh which I guess indirectly that makes us, you know, on that level as well. You know, when it gets to the point where you start thinking, What if we find her? Or what if we solve this case? Then you've you've probably reached a level that that you didn't intend to Yeah, it's it's almost you know, yeah, it's almost a scary thought because
You know, this like you said, this is a real person. This is was a real is a real family. Maybe she doesn't want to be found. Maybe we're ruining her life if we And if uh we find her uh find out she's deceased, we'd ha help to try to bring that person to justice who did something like that, but who knows if it was a murder or what. N and that's something that you gotta be careful about going back to um if this is your first time you typed in
Missing Persons, New Hampshire, and her name came up and this is the first time that you're reading about this or listening to us talk about this. Uh you have to be careful about things like Tim just said the word murder. There's there's tons of information out there that's not accurate about this case. A lot of uh a lot of people who talk about this case will say the murder. Moore Murray, the abduction of M Moor Murray. There was no murder, there's no abduction. Well we don't have to do it.
In fairness, we don't know. Yeah, all we know for a fact is there is a disappearance. Right. And part of what the documentary was about was kind of sifting through all that and and shaking out what what's m you know, what's uh what's what's fact and what's made up in these you know, the the armchair detectives.
can take one single word and just start manipulating it to the point where it gets piled on top of and before you know it you're reading about something online about this case and it's not true. It's not true because someone used the word abdominal. you know, some blog uh that they that they contribute to. What are the top T-O-P-I-X, the topics blog. Some people start start uh writing about the abduction of mormon. And then someone new comes in and they see the abduction.
And they're going on that information that she was abducted. So there's this whole saturation of of uh of contributors who have m you know, maybe intentionally or not intentionally, delivered false information. And maybe that's good for her, you know. Maybe if she wanted to to to go away and and not be found, all of that false information was good. Yeah. It's right at the point where social media blew up.
¶ Maura's Actions Before the Accident
So Mara Murray was born on may fourth, nineteen eighty two. She is from Hansen, Massachusetts. She disappeared on february ninth, two thousand four. She was twenty one when she went missing. She's been missing for over eleven years and four months to this point. She's an American girl. She uh is five seven, a hundred and twenty pounds, daughter of Frederick and Laurie Murray. And I think it's important to note that she was a long distance track uh state champion.
Uh yeah, I believe she held some school records. So the night that she went missing, february ninth, two thousand four, she crashed her car on Route one hundred twelve in Haverill, New Hampshire. How did that crash happen? The accident happened at seven thirty at night and Leading up to the accident, she sent an email to one of her professors at UMass Amherst. Saying that a family member had died.
Uh it turns out that of course there was no death in the family. She packed up some stuff in her dorm room and just kept it in the box. So when uh the uh investigators searched her dorm room, they found items packed in a box. They weren't taken. They were packed up as if she was, you know, going on vacation. And going to retrieve the boxes later or I don't know. Huh. I don't know. Um there was an email to her boyfriend, Billy Route.
saying uh that she loved him. We can get into that later. Um but you can uh you know the the actual wording for the email We can we can talk about later. She also called her boyfriend as she was driving, uh left a message uh and took money out of an ATM. I believe it was something along the lines of uh sixty dollars. Um Uh it left like enough money to keep the account open with two bucks or whatever. You know, it was you know w she rounded it to the nearest you know, twenty dollar. Yeah.
Went to a liquor store, purchased alcohol, I believe it was uh Kalua vodka. uh Bailey's so I remember when I first read about that I thought it was uh interesting that she purchased something that in mass quantities that is basically what you know, girls drink at uh at a college party. You know, they're making like A mud slider.
Slides or they're making uh white Russians. It just seemed like a college drink to me. And she purchased uh As far as I know, purchased the uh the larger containers of these. And then there is a gap in time other than a ping off of a cell phone. Which may or may not be be someone calling her or her calling somebody.
Um but it it's a ping. We'll get into the ping later. As as as we as we find out, there's gonna be a lot of what we talk about right now that we're gonna get back to. And we are just doing a surface on the whole thing.
¶ Accident Scene, Witnesses, and Motives
On uh Route 112, the accident report was basically a car had spun out into a tree. Uh, when the officer arrived, Uh he found the vehicle parked facing west in the eastbound lane. So there's a couple of different theories on how her car got to that position. So if you're facing west in the eastbound lane, you've crossed over and your car has spun around, correct? Mm. Okay. So that's where her car was at. There was a a witness. The vehicle was found facing west in the eastbound lane.
Off of Route one hundred twelve. Uh it was locked. It was no one in the area and the police officer spoke to a witness. Now this witness, his name is Butch Atwood. Uh a lot of people suspected him for a period of time. We'll get to that. He's since passed away. And once you uh Google his name and look him up, you'll probably see that he physically had no way. Uh
He had stopped. He saw the accident. Uh he already came up upon the accident. He was a bus driver, so he came up upon the accident in his bus. and stopped and he spoke to the female, said that it was a young female behind the wheel. He said that there were no other people in the vehicle and he said he spoke to the female who told him not to call the police. She had told him that she had already called triple
Which is interesting because the cell phone reception up there in two thousand four, um, i was awful. There was no c cell phone reception in up there in two thousand four and the reason why I say that with such confidence is that there is no cell phone reception up there in two thousand and fifteen. Yeah. We were actually there. Yeah, you go up there, you d you drive by that area, and you'll you'll realize even in twenty fifteen you can probably go and get your
Mm-hmm. If we're talking about the accident and the witnesses There was a uh a lady who lived In the vicinity, she looked out her kitchen window when the accident happened and she saw the car in this uh Mm position after the accident. She has reported seeing a flurry of activity around the trunk of the car after the accident. At one point this witness said that she saw somebody smoking a cigarette in the passenger room.
Since then she has sort of retracted that statement and saying it was perhaps a reflection of the tail light or it was a reflection of something off of her window in her house, or it could have been, as Mora Murray told the bus driver Butch, it could have been her trying to call Triple A. It could have been the the the red light on her phone trying to call Triple A.
What's interesting to me about that is this woman volunteered this information right away. When asked what happened, she was nearly certain that there was somebody in the passenger seat of the car and a flurry up at the door. was happening in and around the trunk as with all of these types of cases, you have you have to think about it from the uh from the police and investigators and arriving at the scene of the uh
And here's the thing, I almost use the word crime. At this point, if you put yourself back there, it's not a scene it's not the scene of a crime. This is a scene of an accident. when they show up the car's locked well and there's nobody there. Right. Right. Could be a crime. It could be a crime, but using that at this point, if we're talking about the night of They're not thinking it's a crime at this point.
I'm actually talking about Mora because on this police report that I'm reading right now it says that uh that the officer noticed uh the Francia wine in the backseat, but he also says I uh and I quote, I could also see red liquid on the driver's side door and ceiling of the car. So one would assume that that was the Franzia wine that she that either, you know, broke open during the accident or maybe she was drinking it out of some kind of cup or
Absolutely. They actually found a um a Diet Coke bottle with the uh And had a very strong odor inside. So she was drinking and driving. Or the passenger was? Could be. That's the thing. If I'm putting, you know, my detective hat on and and making, you know, the equation here, I would say that she uh stopped at the liquor store, got the stuff to make drinks for.
whatever event was going to be happening that night and then hey I'm gonna grab some wine as long as I'm in the car and I got the wine, I'm gonna pour it into this Diet Coke bottle and I'm gonna, you know, have a couple of have a couple of drinks while I'm driving to my desk. Yeah. So I I think it's fair to assume that that's what she did. Correct. Especially considering we uh you know there's no evidence of another person in the past.
At this point there was no evidence of anyone else in the car other than the witness saying that she was relatively sure that someone was smoking a cigarette inside the car. Yeah. When there was a flurry of action. Getting back to your point though about, you know, yeah, at this point I'm sure the uh officer at the scene is thinking, Yeah, this girl or this person crashed the car after drinking and she's run off in And, you know, a realistic assumption I would have to say. Absolutely.
21-year-old girl is about to get a DUI. Uh, you know, that's not something that anyone wants on their record, especially someone who's in nursing. And again we'll get yeah, we'll get to these uh you know, we'll get to these points, um
in in later episodes, but this was a girl at this particular time in her life where DUI probably wasn't uh the wasn't the best thing for her. She had been in trouble on a couple of other occasions for different different infractions uh not only at U mass, but at So being convicted of a D U Y could have potentially gotten her thrown out of school.
Okay. Absolutely. Or in very deep trouble not only at school but with her uh I think it's important to reiterate that it was February in the White Mountains of New Hampshire. So i I think it it must have been thirty degrees or or colder there. The snow on the ground. It's gotta be below freezing, right? From what I've read with the weather reports and um witness accounts, it had snowed uh uh earlier on in the uh you know in the season. So there was a
substantial amount of snow, a normal amount of snow, I would say, on the ground for that area. But that particular night, um, it the the temperature was was mild for that time of the year. Um You know, it'd say like high thirties, mid thirties for that time of the year, which is, you know, it's mild, kinda normalish mild. Uh normalish mile for this area. However if you're listening in a tropical area like San Diego or somewhere like that, um this is cold as hell.
Yeah. And and also I it's Fahrenheit for our international listeners, so it would be around zero sales. Sure. Okay. Yeah. Which is uh, you know, you can start putting some stuff together on that. If she planned on running at that uh, you know, stage in the accident and and and taking off and she was going on foot.
I mean this is a girl who who ran. She she was a runner in school. She was driven to do physical activity, a lot of cardio with her father, uh mountain climbing, hiking, uh cross country running. You know, someone like that can uh can warm up real quick with the you know, put the uh put the um
You know the underarmor on and and go and warm up and and she could probably go you know six, seven miles in in weather like that if she just started running. So where are we at here? We're at the vehicle. The vehicle has been found by the police.
¶ Challenges in Factual Accuracy
Uh we uh are talking about whether or not this was a crime, whether it was staged, uh what crime was committed. spoken to by at least one person who was in the car uh following her. Butch Atwood came up on the accident moments after it happened. Uh He's a bus driver? He was a bus driver, that was what he did for his life. And he pulled up to her in his bus. Let's say that the accident happens and she's in the car and she realized you know, she's getting uh like she's collecting her thoughts.
She gets out of the car and he comes up to the scene. So we're gonna say maybe It's probably a minute and a half. Right. I would say probably around that time. Okay, and then we we're making that sort of assumption because the witness called right when she heard the the sound, right? Did she call before Butch Atwood showed up? Or that's unclear? The witness who lived in the house made the phone call to the police after Butch had spoken to Homora. Okay.
Side note on Butch speaking to Mora, when Butch uh first saw uh the photograph of Mora Murray, he said no that's not the girl. Hm. get a little chill there. Yeah. Um and then later on he was uh studying the picture more and um said uh yeah that's that's probably You know, when I saw her she was uh she was kind of out of it. She, you know, had been in an accident. It's just kinda you know, a little bit of a wreck. So She he could have seen this picture of her, you know, the class picture of her.
She looked a lot different and she may have been even a little uh intoxicated at that point. Um Ja, eftersom alla vi anställda har pension och försäkring via... the team. Hur mycket jag kommer få i pension? kollektivavtalade For shake. På Circle Key älskar vi att fira våra kunder. Men sök extra för du välja en ny belöning efter bara 5%.
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I'm telling you, if you when you drive those roads up there, if it's night and you're you're not in a very good car, which she wasn't, um, I don't I you know, whether or not you've had something to drink, you can spin off the road. If you're not paying attention. Absolutely. Again, this is going through the mountains. Yeah. This is going through the mountains. This is this is a corner that
You know, if if navigated well you're fine. But uh I've driven up through there in the day during the summer. with clear roads and if you're if you're distracted if something happens and you're you know, you can you can miscalculate that corner. You can hit the snow bank, the snow bank can pull your car, you can spin around and hit Certainly if you're maybe on the phone or trying to make a call or even a text, yeah. That would potentially happen easier.
Yep. Yep. And then, you know, put on top of the fact that she probably had s you know, at least a a twelve ounce Diet Coke bottle full of wine, you know, at that point consume. For a hundred and twenty pound uh you know, twenty one year old girl, that's probably enough to get her buzzed.
Sure. She wasn't uh unfamiliar with drinking though. Mm-hmm. She definitely uh had her had her moments in One of the uh things that um I have yet to find a definite answer on is whether or not the alcohol she bought was in the car. When the police impounded the car, there have been numerous accounts of the alcohol bottles still being in the car. Some people say that the police confiscated them and some people say that uh that they weren't in there or not all of them.
And there has uh there has yet to be a definitive answer. Unless I'm made. of whether or not that alcohol was found in the car. Well it is not on the police report. On the on the accident report, the initial accident. Exactly. And with this case. I've always thought that going back to as close to the accounts when they happened as possible is is the best thing to do. That's what you gotta do. That's that's what the Yeah.
they say one one wrong thing, they say something like If they think the alcohol was found in the car and they put it out there in their blog and people read it, then all of a sudden the alcohol. This report was written six days after the accident. So it is possible uh that officers may have forgotten what they found. Um However, they probably just didn't confiscate it and drink it, like bring it home and leave it from the report. It probably wasn't there.
Unless for some reason they thought it might have been evidence instead. Mm-hmm. I also think it's what you're saying about these facts getting getting misconstrued, I think it's sorta like a game of telephone al almost in in like a if say class, preschool, first grade, you know, grade school.
You say, you know, John is going to the park on Saturday to the person next to you, that person tells the person next to them, by the time it comes all the way back to you it it is Tom went to the park last Friday. Yeah. So uh it is very important to look at these police reports and the official language, I think, uh just to know what we're actually dealing with. And so that you know when someone is trying to bend the narrative to fit their theory. Which happens often.
Which happens all the time. And you have people who bend the narrative to fit their theory and then you have people who invent a narrative. And we'll we'll get to the people who are inventing a narrative. What would you say? Their own publicity, but it's it's kinda weird because it's not even like publicity.
It's to get off on it. It's to get off on freaking people out over this. And and there's a there's a there's a large faction people who do that and who manipulate the uh the internet in a way to put their Moniker out there and they made a character out of them. Based on this.
¶ The Vehicle: Damage and Key Evidence
When the police showed up they they took down some notes. They did not find Mora. No, they filled out the accident report, which uh
You know, it's very straightforward. It's uh something where the guy probably um you know, he sat in his car after and in and and circled the proper things where the you know, what type of accident it was, um where uh the the the car like what the car struck, um location of uh where it happened, whether it was um you know at an intersection of red light or at a um you know off road. off the shoulder, which this this is what it happened to be.
Um and uh yeah, he probably sat in his his uh and again I'm just kinda assuming what happened, he probably sat in his uh police car as um as the the you know other members of Other authorities. Authority showed up. Yeah. Um and and he you know, I'm guessing he filled this out when it was still fresh. Mm-hmm. However, the report wasn't turned in until six days later, or at least finalized.
Yeah, and I don't know if that's something that's normal. Uh you know, if this is uh February ninth they have You know, they don't realize that they're not finding her within the woods that night. Well let's get into that. So w what did the police do next? After he, you know, took his notes and maybe r started the initial report, when did they start looking for her? They towed the car and they are still assuming that this girl is probably hiding in the woods.
This is something that's not uncommon. You know, someone someone i knows that they're drinking and driving, they get into the accident and then they they leave. Uh, figure it's better to, you know, ask forgiveness after the fact. Uh, you know, I'm sure they get that a lot. Um this happens all the time. In fact I had a friend who did this exact same thing and uh hid in the woods. Yeah. To avoid the DUI.
Yeah. And then you then you just figure it out later on. You go get your car, you figure it out later on. You say you know, you could say, I don't know, I must have had a seizure you know. Like you can make something more. car. Yeah, someone stole my car. So this isn't like instant missing person in there. As far as finding Mora, what do the police do? After that.
Well, at that time they probably aren't thinking that this is a a missing person. They have the car impounded. Um, Lavoie's towing service uh in the area comes up, toes the car, uh and it's like a um Uh you know, a side of the road type uh auto. You can pretty much like, you know, see it from the side of the road, you and it goes into the into the garage and they lock it up. Okay.
Lance, in looking at these pictures of the car, and actually you and I have video footage of this car as well, we uh we were up there and we filmed the car in its current state after the accident, hasn't been driven.
Um just I I don't know if it's important to note the damage, but there is um driver's side front end damage. Sort of the headlight seems to be smashed, the the hood is pushed up a little bit, and the windshield is was cracked and sort of spidered in one definitely was hit in one specific area and if you were to assume it was the driver's head hitting the windshield, uh it's it's basically the top of the windshield. Yeah, the driver's head would have to be launched like up and forward.
So maybe she wasn't wearing a seat belt? I mean I know that's not No not important to assume that but I'm just saying that the the crack seems tall. You know, she this girl's five seven. I'm not trying to to make the case that someone six three was driving the car. I'm just saying looking at the damage. It almost seems like someone taller would have been driving the car. Or she wasn't wearing a seatbelt and and got jolted forward. Facts on this is that the cracks were from the inside out.
And happened during the action. Well actually we don't know that. Okay. Yes, there was damage to the front of the car, driver's driver's side. Uh above the headlight. Um almost looks like someone uh took like big baseball bat maybe took a swing at it. Um and there was uh the the hood was pushed up. Interesting to note when we visited this car, uh it had been Sitting in the same spot. at the State Police Troop F Barrac. in New Hampshire, uh in the White Mountains. Um
For ten years. And it'd been sitting there and it's uh just out in the open. There was a part of the car that was missing when we went to look and it's sort of an important Yeah. It is. And uh and w what part is that? The part that was missing, um, first of all we could only get within ten feet of the uh of the car, but our camera had a zoom on it, so uh the camera got closer than ten feet. Um it was the exhaust system. The entire exhaust system had been removed. Tomorrow.
Exactly. The muffler and tailpipe. Why do you believe that was removed? Well, um when her car was found, it was towed as uh mentioned before. It was impounded. Murray had requested to see the car, uh, but it was under um lock and key when it was uh in the days following Moore's disappearance. and he had volunteered the information to the police That's the same. Hey if you You guys find a rag in the tailpipe.
It's because I told my daughter to put it there. Her car wasn't running well, and he told her to put it there as a way from keeping the car. From sputtering? Yeah. From Stall. That's sort of an old school style of auto mechanic. I have no idea. I would never tell my daughter to put a rag in her tailpipe. Um and then rag was found in the tailpipe. and why it was in there has been probably one of the biggest mysteries of
It's safe to assume that the authorities removed the exhaust system. Why would they have done that? Taken out the exhaust and the Yeah, I mean not only is it safe to assume it's a fact. They took out the the muffler, they took out the tail. Once the car was impounded the night of the accident, in the days following that, Fred Murray, Mora's father, had uh requested to see the car. It was under lock and key. He was un unable to see the car because it was a uh it was
part of uh the missing person case at this time. And he volunteered the information to the local authorities saying, If you find a rag in the tailpipe, uh I told her to put it there. The car wasn't running well and I told her to put it there as a way to to keep it from sputtering, maybe. Uh he said he told his daughter to put a rag in the tailpipe to make the car run better. And they found a rag in the tailpost.
And that has been one of the biggest mysteries when you're first getting involved in this case and you read that There's no reason for it. Like I know there was some thought that maybe Maura had this rag in the cab of the car, wiped would tried to wipe up the wine and put it in there herself. That's a theory. Okay. It's never been um
It's never been uh released what the rag was or if the rag contained anything or you know, other than fingerprints. Um then fingerprints I don't believe I don't think that that's ever been released. Whose fingerprints were on the all that has been um publicly stated was that Fred had said, without being asked, if there's a rag in the tailpipe, I told my daughter to put it in there because the car wasn't And if she experienced problems with the car, hey, put a rag in the tailpipe.
Personally I would never say that to my daughter,'cause I've you know, seen Beverly Hills Cop. Put something in the tailpipe, you know, it whether or not that's a Old Wivesdale. Look, exhaust has to go somewhere, right? You c a car can't run without exhausting. Exactly what the Dryer, same thing with uh any automobile with an engine. Yeah. It's just it's it's it was a silly thing to uh to read and think that, you know, this this man who's in in his li in his fifties.
And they find a rag in the tailpipe. And this is Not necessarily the only thing that Fred Marie Mora's dad uh did or has done that is uh considered questionable or maybe shady. But I don't wanna sit here and and call foul on him. There are a number of shady characters involved in this story that we will divulge.
¶ Episode One: Overview and Next Steps
as the podcast unfolds. Thank you very much for listening to this Missing Mora Murray podcast. We will be back with episode two. As we said in the beginning, this first episode was just kind of an overview of what happened. It's really easy to get distracted and kinda go off on a on a tangent about a fact or a uh a perceived fact. Um So hopefully we did our best uh to not convolute the first episode.
Uh and in the episodes following we're gonna be very specific about um what we talk about and try to keep on track, but um the more you listen, the more you'll realize that there's a lot of a lot of stuff that uh goes into every single account, every single um police report, every single phone record. Uh nothing is black. Nothing's cut and dry. There's a story behind everything and there's a uh a little mystery behind every little fact.
And this night in early February two thousand four was the last time she was seen in a public manner. Absolutely right. other than unconfirmed sightings in the in the weeks, in the months, and as we get into this you'll see in the years following. February ninth. About seven thirty five PM was the last time that anyone saw Morrow Murray. På Circle Key älskar vi att fira våra kunder. Det perfekta sättet. Som medlem i Circle Key Extra blir du belönad för varje besök.
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