Hi guys, Spanners here, popping in for some mid-week... news but mostly an Imola preview as we look forward to the Imola Romano GP AWS Grand Prix and we'll see can this be more interesting than your typical Imola race what are Pirelli up to and where And where should we set our expectations? There's also some interesting news around Montreal. The president is making himself the news again. El Presidente. is seeking more power and the ability to veto potential challenges. Yeah.
Why not? All sounds normal to me. Also, I want to talk about that F1 movie trailer that's coming out really soon. And why I think this F1 movie is actually quite important. for Formula One as a sport, a little bit about whether Ferrari can get their act together. Definitely going to be lots of tyre talk. from Matt as the C6 tyre makes its debut. And we got a bunch of stuff from you guys about what you reckon.
So I asked the patrons what they reckon. And we've got loads of stuff about Colopinto. Lots of stuff looking forward to Imola as well. And of course there is the... The rumours about Christian Horner to discuss, and there's a reckon about that too. So, we are an independent podcast produced in a podcasting shed. With the kind permission of our patrons and partners, we aim to bring you a race review before your Monday morning commute. We might be wrong, but we're first.
Well, I hope you like these previews. I have really enjoyed doing them for every race so far. We've done it for every race for a while. And for me, what it does is it just... frames the beginning of the weekend. And when I spoke to people, you know, spoke to the audience and the panel for the first time on a Sunday, there was a little bit of like a disconnect. I didn't feel involved in the weekend. Whereas now with this and the solo sprint reviews, I feel like I missed Apex.
kind of can bookend an F1 weekend, certainly for me and for Matt and the panel. Hopefully it's doing the same for you guys as well. No one has said stop doing them. So I'm just going to continue. Of course, they will be skippable. I've decided that only Sundays are canon. And then all the midweek shows are side quests, which is why we can take risks with some of our dodgier, more difficult panellists. So we've got Chris Stevens joining us. Hello, Chris.
Yeah, definitely the dodgiest. Lip-smacking-est panellists. You let right in there with a lip smack straight off the bat. I realized that my mouth is very dry. My mouth is so dry. Milk was a bad choice. It is. It is hot. and we have woken Chris up from a nap. We have a little bit. And also, I woke up like one day and it was 20 degrees hotter than it was The day before. I was at Old Park two weeks ago in a puffy coat.
And then the next day it was 25 degrees. I don't know what happened. So Chris was hung over and napping. And I'm only telling on him because that time that I had a few beers on Miami Beach. And then you suddenly decided you needed a host for the corner special show. And I said, don't mention that I've had six beers. And it was literally the first thing you said. So that's the only reason I'm dubbing you in.
If only you had checked the schedule that day. No, you were going to do it without a host. Right, this is slander. I'll sort this out at the end of the show. Also joined by Matt. Ooh, rumpets, tyre heaven for you, Matt. A brand new tyre. That must be like Christmas. That's softer than ever and waiting to be degraded is the C6 tire at MLA. Well, okay. Well, we have got a chance to hang out with Kyle and our slot Silverstone. This is a very sloppy start to the show. I do apologize.
Midweek. Silverstone. It's the hot weather. Silverstone, 5th of May. I'm going to go and get that booked and sorted out now. We're going to go down to Milton Keynes. 5th of July. 5th of July, sorry. Yeah, 5th of May would be either a year away or in the past.
But come and do a little bit of karting with us. So there's some sessions where you can just sort of have a go and you'll be on with some of the panel or whatever set of time. And then we'll do our live show and a live quiz. But I do want to do a proper, proper karting event. But I was just saying to the patrons here.
I think it's going to cost like 200 quid a person for a proper karting event. Where is it at? Spanners again? It's in Milton Keynes at Formula Fast. At Formula Fast? Yeah. So we're not... going to the Silverstone Kart track just yet. No. was there at the weekend actually and I saw it's like 90% done.
now so that's got to be a potential if you're willing to pay like 300 for a day of cut coming to ours instead so to be clear that i don't think that you'll only have to pay like 20 quid if you want to go in the carts at the missed apex event
But I'm talking about if we have a big one where you have your heats all day, collect points and then have a grand final and a few jars afterwards like we used to. But Matt, why don't we start on the tyre news because we've got a reckon here from John H who probably has missed. The C6 News, which I would have done as well if you had not told me about it.
So John H says, I reckon that we'll have little to no variation in tyre strategy this weekend. And we'll be saying Pirelli could have gone with softer tyres. This will lead to a very predictable race finish. John reckons that. Matt says, oh yeah. Oh, yeah? Well, it might be the same tire strategy for everyone, but the tires will be softer, so you're very, very, very wrong about that.
The C6 tire was brought to Bahrain for testing. No one really ran it, and so this will be the first in-season test on a track of this particular tire. And it is a step softer. It's essentially a qualifying tire. Now, what makes this interesting and what makes Imla extremely problematic? is really the long pit stop delta, which is 26 seconds. So it's never really been worth it to do anything other than a one-stop strategy. But I did some digging for you. And I discovered that last year...
The average stint length on the medium tire, which will now be this year's hard tire, was only 22 laps. And it's a 63 lap race. That's interesting. And the soft tire, which is last year's medium, the longest. The average stint was seven and a half laps. So we might actually be pushing into two-stop territory, but barely. Well, no, that's more than two-stop, isn't it? Let's do my math. You said 22 plus seven. Yeah, it's going to be a three-stopper by that maths, isn't it?
I cannot wait to be here on Sunday and start criticising Pirelli for bringing too soft a time. Well, what I have to report to you is that that You have to look at the... You have to look at the pit delta in relationship to that. So they would simply run longer and go slower if they think it's faster than losing the 26 seconds. But it brings us closer to the potential that it might not be for every team.
It's worth mentioning that the introduction of the C6 tie... obviously this is not going to be raced you know some people might end up picking it up but it's going to be like every other weekend we have and why I despise the three tie at the three compound system we have at the moment, which is you give them a really great qualifying tyre and then two much better race tyres. Whereas we should have to run a rubbish tyre at some point in a race.
Obviously, the C5 that has only been used in qualifying up until this point is now going to have to be used in a race. Yeah, that's the main thing. That's the main takeaway. It's not really that this C6 is there. to be raced on it's more as if they're saying alright you've just got two tyres basically for the race and I think all year we've seen nobody running the softer compound. So it's always been erring towards what's the hardest tyres we can run and do a one-stop.
We've not really had races where the hards and mediums don't work, so the payoff used to be If you stay off of the harder tyre, you've got performance. And sometimes you'd put the hard tyre on and it just wouldn't fire up and it wouldn't work. But we've not really seen that, which is why we just keep getting medium then hard.
Stop races, I guess. And Pirelli's been really good at judging it in that window where it works perfectly. And I think that's probably why you've got the likes of Karun Chanduk saying, well, you've got to run all three compounds then, because we're hoping then that that forces them on to the softer tie. You end up with a race like we had in Qatar a couple of years ago. That's not the solution. Just get rid of three compounds.
Make it two compounds again with a really good qualifying tyre that you have to run during a race. But of course, you talk about the pit stop. Deltas, Matt. At what point do we know, have they said, when they are going to trial this increased pit lane speed limit, which will reduce the deltas? If they have, I don't recall when it is, but it's probably a next season thing.
I would guess. And that's just, again, looking at sort of safety factors and stuff like that. They're looking at places with longer Daltas where they can maybe let the cars go a bit faster to reduce it. And sort of the less tight ones as well, like they wouldn't do it at Zanvoort, for example, where they reduce it even further. Because the reason they reduced it in the first place, it was back in 2013 when Mark Webber came out with a loose wheel and it hit a cameraman.
And so they reduced it, and suddenly from that point on, it was like no one did more than three stops in a race from that point onwards, pretty much. And I feel like there's been enough improvements in terms of not having loose wheels rolling down pit lane that we can afford to run 20Ks an hour quicker down pit lane. Yeah, I actually was going to write an article about that. And the pit stop deltas back then, before they had that, were down in like the 15, 16 second range.
And it was spectacular because you really could make up those guys. When you made the extra pit stop, it brought lots of different strategies more into alignment. And it's been an ongoing problem, and they've made some progress with it. I think they've changed some pit exits and stuff like that.
But realistically, if you're going to have those speed limits, any delta over about 20 seconds is just going to nix any long shot two-stop strategy because you just can't make the time up in the number of laps you have. Chris mentioned the Qatar race where they were forced to have shorter stints, so then they had to go.
all out although they had their full performance available for the whole stint so they weren't doing any tyre saving and I would say about half the grid they all looked tired but half the grid sort of couldn't handle that Now, they used to be... There was one particular race where Schumacher was 40 seconds behind.
And there's a famous commentary of Murray Walker saying, and if he wants to do anything, it's going to have to be 55 qualifying laps to win. And that was hailed as this great thing and a sign of Schumacher's physical endurance and fitness. and you kind of go well if if we did have tyre strategies that rewarded going for the fastest amount of lap time, even if it meant changing tyres. Which we used to have. We used to have teams that would go, is it worth it?
to bolt on the softer tires and go for a sprint and try and make up that time no one does it anymore it's just it doesn't happen And it used to be in the era of Mercedes domination, you'd get Red Bull being that disruptor from that kind of third best place car and the strategies were so good and so disruptive.
They would kind of ruin people's plans for a one-stop because people would have to go and cover them off, you know, behind and above. People would go, oh no, there's a chain reaction now, we've got to do it or lose track position. And now you just, you don't get any of that. And I didn't really put any thought into it being the pit deltas.
We're contributing to that in any way. But imagine having an advantage if you're supremely fit and you've conditioned yourself to be able to push for that amount of time and have Qatar scenarios or... It's not as hot as guitar, so I think I can handle it. Are you sure? You're crazy. You're crazy, Sonny. You'll never make it. I've got to do my 85 qualifying laps. And then you go and win a race doing that. And then Nigel Mansell push your car over the line.
God, like, that would be better, wouldn't it? The thing is, obviously that guitar one, that was obviously like an extreme case with the heat. um and also now on top of that as well we have that new driver cooling system in which It's kind of just like, hey, you don't need to be as much of an athlete anymore to do your job, which makes sense.
Alright, I'm going to bring you up on charges. The issue in Qatar was the wet bulb temperature, meaning sweat didn't evaporate from the drivers. No one is in the kind of shape to survive. without some sort of cooling in those circumstances. And I think probably most of the drivers would be pretty exhausted, but would be capable of putting in efforts like that, given the levels to which they currently train.
The issue is always one of the math more than anything else. If the math doesn't work out, the team's not going to do it. The pet delta is a big hindrance. Just seeing, uh... different tire strategies, two-stop versus one-stop, and also, I think, potentially causes some convergence of car design because you know that in advance. You can't say, oh, I can design a car that's going to be really good on tires.
that will go a little bit slower the whole race but save the pit stop delta versus i'm going to design a tire that will be able to take the most out of the tires immediately and go really fast and go fast enough to make up what i think the average pit stop delta is going to be across this season. I've got another reckon here, Matt. I've got Marcio who says, I reckon Imola will be boring, unfortunately. He says, I love the place. Oh yeah, Lasio? Well, what if there's rain?
as is predicted for Monday, Tuesday, and Wednesday at Imola, but it's going to be bright and sunny on Saturday and Sunday. So, I mean, Imola to be a not entertaining race is not as shocking. I think there is every single chance that we get there and even with an additional pit stop. the teams find a way to Singapore it, basically, and they'll do a ton of tyre saving, a bit of a scramble around the pit stops, a bit of hammer time to try and get some track position.
But there is a possibility that Martial, you're right, it will end up being, you know, less exciting than some. This is all moot if it rains, which it's apparently supposed to do this weekend. Is it? I'm looking at a forecast and it's saying Monday, so... Okay, whoever knows. They said it was coming on Sunday. Well, okay, here we go. Mason says, I reckon we need to stop wishing for rain.
Oh, yeah, no, I'm not wishing for the rain. I'm just sort of throwing it out there. Well, do you know what, Mason? Oh, yeah, I actually, I do want rain. I wish... It seems to be the places we run in, if you do get rain, you end up getting the kind of storms that stop races. So we got that storm coming through Miami that canceled the F1 Academy race. So that, and genuinely, the reason why.
was so that the boys could do their Lego parade race. That was genuinely the reason why they didn't, you know, then do it once the conditions improved. But you get those big storms. and in Brazil as well and Japan, where it's unraceable and they won't run on the wet tyres and they won't run in that lack of visibility.
What you need is kind of European rain. So you need a soggy British day, which is fine to go out in. It's just a bit, it was like the sort of day that would ruin your picnic and your garden party, but not a kind of monsoon type. storm so i still do find myself wishing for races and for rain at races at the moment just because of the lack of action we've seen and i'm getting more impatient as i get older which i thought would be the other way around I think it's a symptom of the modern world.
we do need every race to be amazing. So Scott reckons, he said, I reckon that the obsessing over the quantity of overtakes is bad and what matters is a combination of overtakes and uncertainty.
that an overtake will happen. Overtakes being too easy can be just as boring, Formula E, as overtakes being near impossible. That's a great reckon as well. It's a combination of things. I find myself... wishing for an exciting race i think it may be it's different because we're creating content so when nothing happens you go oh no oh no what are we going to talk about oh the show's only going to be 59 minutes this week
But in reality, you watch a sport and there's going to be draws and there's going to be boring things. And when Liberty said, we need every race to be the Super Bowl, I thought, oh no, this is terrible. But very quickly, you know, my patience is gone. You know, you should see me scrolling on the vertical apps. If someone even introduces themselves and says their name, I scroll past. Like, hi, Dave here. Yeah, I don't want your life story, mate. And I just flick past.
I can't watch any film from the 80s anymore. So it's kind of like I do now and I think I've come along with the newer audiences. desire for there to be action i want there to be racing and actually in miami there was racing there was i mean it did fizzle out towards the end but the beginning of the race there was lots of overtakes it was interesting I do think now that an ingredient of whether it's a good race or not is going to be overtake.
So, I don't know. I've regressed, Chris. I've gone backwards. It is going to be a factor, but I've said it for many, many years. I'd rather have... two really memorable passes in a Grand Prix than 300 DRS breeze buys, because that's just not entertaining at all. So really what you like is the tracks where you can pass someone, but the person being passed has a legitimate chance to retake that position.
And tracks where if you make a pass, you can't make a full pass and you wind up with cars side by side through a couple of turns fighting it out. All of which has now been outlined by the FIA driving rules and by the aerodynamics. So it's never going to happen like that. Try and think, when's the last time you had a car close down a gap and overtake?
and then the car behind hung on, re-overtook, and it doesn't happen anymore. Yeah. Either it's a much... Because of the delta you need, when an overtake happens, it's because the car is so much faster. If they're about the same pace... There's no overtake. That's absolutely true. You need such a massive delta to do a move. They've got no hope of sticking on the back.
Every now and again, you'll get somebody who just absolutely launches it back up the inside and surprises them. But that's very, very rare. You don't see battle. anymore, as in where it's a to and a fro. We literally saw it in Bahrain. We saw it in Miami with Hamilton and Aukon. We've seen these sorts of battles happen all the time. The nice thing about the aerodynamics is they can be next to each other in turns.
I think we're talking about slightly different things. As the overtake is happening, it can be difficult and they can have a battle. But what I'm saying is, there's clearly one faster car than the other in those kind of battles. And once it's settled, once the position is settled, it tends to be settled. There's no chance for Ocon to come back then. Matt, you've been watching MotoGP. There's the difference between, hey, I'm quick.
at this corner, so I'm going to pass you here. And then, oh, well, I'm quicker at this corner, so I'm going to re-pass you here. And you do that for 20 laps. You don't get that in... car racing in general. No, not to that extent, but we've seen, we have seen some comeback. from a car being passed and repassing and then the faster car then finally makes it work and yeah generally one car is faster than the other once they have clean air they will tend to pull away
But it's not something that never happens. Maybe I'm just being a little too precious about it. I think we're actually just talking past each other. I think the scenario you're describing was covered from what we were talking about initially, but maybe I didn't describe it quite well enough. No, it never happens. It never happens. Never, ever happened. Definitively. You know what I mean, though. You know what I mean. The best we can hope for is that the faster car isn't at the front.
at the beginning of the race. So, yeah, I mean, mixing up qualifying would probably do a great deal. And when you've got, say, if you just force the McLarens to start 7th and 8th every race, we're going to have a better Grand Prix, aren't we? Because they've got such an advantage at the moment. If they have a bad qualifying, then we know we're going to get overtake. So Norris managed to get in, I don't know, whatever it was.
Five overtakes. That was fun watching him go through the field. We've got Hamilton who can't qualify still. So we've got to see him making up six positions as well. Maybe the key is qualifying. And that story, when I was watching the Heats and the Missed Apex event, the Heats were chaos. Why? Because I fudged the grid. I had like one grid where I took the 8 heaviest guys
put them in orange bibs, and put them all at the front, and then I put all the fastest guys right at the back of that grid. It was absolute chaos. I even said to them, I said, guys, make a wall be a wall of orange. That wall crumbled and shattered within half a lap.
But it was still interesting and exciting. Then when we got to the C final and the B final, I was watching that. I was watching those ones because I was in the A final. So I got to watch those ones. And the racing was less exciting. It was better racing. It was better driving. But when you order things up...
from fastest to slowest, you're going to naturally get that progression. So I suppose in my inpatient, you know, Gen Z brain, because I'm still young and trendy, I will call for, if I'm going to call for anything, I'm going to call for, let's mix up qualifying more. spanners is a fine line a very fine line between that and Formula E, because Formula E are, you know, they're the self-proclaimed chaos championship. Yeah, they do a good job. I don't want chaos. I want a sport. I want a competition.
Uh, I'd like a little chaos. Can I have chaos on the side? Can I get a side order of chaos with that? Can it be chaos adjacent? I think sport does need to be entertaining to survive. We... lived through an era of Formula One from the 80s and 90s, where objectively it wasn't that entertaining. So go back and actually sit through a broadcast of a whole race. It's less entertaining. The broadcast is less good. The commentary is less informed.
And tell me that that's a better sport. It isn't. And people wouldn't watch it today. And there's a reason why it was a niche sport. There's a reason why, you know, you could wander around never meeting another Formula One fan. Even when me and Matt started podcasting here, it was like, wow, I get to speak.
To other Formula One fans? Oh my gosh. So that's like 2014. And then you'd go into work and go, oh, we've been doing this podcast. It's about Formula One. No, no. It's the one where they've got like wings and stuff. Whereas now, everyone knows Formula 1. The price of that is it needs to be entertaining. And I think it's fallen a little bit short this season.
I can see Chris looking at me like, I think we were definitely over-promised. It's going to be the greatest season ever. Any car can literally win. And then it hasn't lived up to that. What's the secret to happy life? Low expectations. Yes. And we messed it up for this season. We did. We did. And we kind of, yeah, shot ourselves in the foot a little bit. I will say, post Barcelona, things might be a little bit... Why is that then, Chris?
We've got some technical directives coming in. Oh, is that Barcelona? Yeah, Barcelona. So there was a comment from Fred Vassor in somethingsomething.com that said, things are really going to change from Barcelona because we're getting a new front wing. And he said he thinks that the order is going to change. Do you think that's him implying that...
It's not Ferrari that's going to be affected by these flexi-wing rules. I think the general consensus was that it was definitely going to be McLaren who are going to be hit by it. I think a little bit Mercedes as well. Probably to a lesser extent. Matt looks like he's going to correct me. I'm not going to correct you. I'm just going to say my consensus is nothing has phased McLaren in the slightest, and I don't expect this to either.
Yeah, they're going to be running around. Oh no, in Barcelona, we're going to be last again. No, not last, but I mean, they did get a little bit restricted by the rear wing stuff last season. As much as they denied it, it did have an effect. I don't think it's going to make much of a difference. I don't think it's going to make enough of a difference because I don't think, and we've discussed this on the show already, I don't think that's where their biggest advantage lies.
All I'm saying is it's possible when they got nerfed last season and they said, oh, we're voluntarily changing our wings out of the goodness of ours. They did go from like clearly probably the fastest car. in that purple patch mid-season to not having the fastest car again. I think the Red Bull probably finished as the faster car. So I'm saying it can make a deal.
I slightly disagree with that statement. It was more on par with the McLaren at the end of last season than it is this season, for sure. But I don't think they went to being the slowest car. I didn't say slowest. I just think that's not the fastest. I think McLaren ended last season. Yeah. I think it made a difference, them having to do that stuff with their wing. But I think it could make a difference. Now, if you look at the... Mercedes front wing is touching the floor.
If you look on the onboards, it's like it's touching the floor. And it was really interesting seeing Leclerc's performance increase when that end plate fell off and it was dragging across the ground. I don't know the technical reasons of why that is. But I don't know. I wonder if a clerk had half a mind of, well, next time I'll use both of Hamilton's rear wheels to knock my own plates off. I think the technical aspect of that is that it's a poorly designed car.
Spanish. So, here we go. Since we're talking about whether Ferrari will turn it around and their comments around Barcelona, Matt, you keep on top more of the tech stuff. They've got a new technical person this year called... V, begins with V or something. I'll find it anyway. Who has not, who didn't get input into the initial design, but now they're talking about fixing the entire rear.
of the Ferrari. I've been seeing headlines from Ferrari fan accounts going, maybe the title hopes are slipping away or maybe this is really going to affect our title challenge. I had no idea that there was anyone out there who still thought Ferrari were contenders this year. You are not a real Ferrari fan. You're new at this, Spanners. It's your first year. I'm meant to keep hoping until the end. I think they could really turn it around, you know, guys. I really think they could.
Yeah, if the issue is at the rear and they do have the resource, available to redesign and remanufacture it with, I assume, different mounting points for the suspension or something like that to solve whatever the issue is. then yeah, they could potentially, I mean, certainly we saw in China when they ran at that lower right height, you saw the full potential of the design. It's not a nothing burger by any stretch of the imagination.
But the reality is at the right heights, they're currently having to run it to maintain legality. I think the suspension cannot adequately cope with the stresses and loads it encounters, so you have issues with tire wear and balance and stuff like that. I think they can fix it. But can they afford to, and what will it cost them in 2026 are the real questions here. This is the thing, right? Why are they so concerned with how this year's car is going to perform?
Well, they must think that they can win. That would be the only reason. They just, and I say we can't do a year without winning, like, a Grand Prix. Not when, like, it's Lewis Hamilton's first year at Ferrari. But you're taking away... you know resources to the 2026 car and let's not forget One of the big controversies for this year is that the lower down in the championship you finish, the better off you're going to be for the start of 2026 because of how the wind tunnel...
reward system works with the Constructors' Championship. Well, that'll be the win-tunnel time you can use next year for 27, though, isn't it? It's already decided. It's what you get to use through 2026. I rebalance it every so often. The next rebalance, I think, comes either at Barcelona or at the summer break. I'd have to look it up to tell you which one it is. But it gets rebalanced every so often throughout the season. Based on your current position or based on where you finished in the...
current position so like they look at the current position and they rebalance it every so often throughout the season Okay, am I the only one who thought that you get to the end of the season and wherever you finish dictates how much wind tunnel time you get in the following season?
which you can choose to either use on in-season development or your next season's car. It is definitely presented like that. Yeah. It's a typical Formula 1. It's not very well communicated, and it's also needlessly complicated. Okay, well, that's good information then, Matt, because I'm pretty sure everyone thought... Okay, there's Adrian's on top of stuff. Six times a year based on current position. Oh, I didn't know that. Well, tell me that then!
How am I meant to? I thought everybody knew. What can I say? No. Okay, can we just assume I don't really listen to the Tech Times, do you? Explain it to me like I'm five years old, you know? All I'm going to say is we've got an increased production team. I don't have to edit every single episode, so...
Whoops. You're just like talking to your barbers and you're like, oh, I thought everyone knew about the fact that the Constructors' Championship was determined. I didn't know that. It was in the tech time. Yeah, no, I know, Matt, because it was in the tech time. Oh, yeah, the Tech Time. Was I not flying with no internet when Tech Time came out on the way to... That might have been. That's a pretty... That's definitely better than the dog at your Tech Time. Why were you flying, Spanner?
To Alabama. To go to... Alabama. Alabama. I know what NASCAR is. Christopher. Yeah, we went out there. It was really hot and it was really fun. I liked it. I've done a lot of the South of America in the last year. Texas. I thought I was teeing you up for Miami. I forgot you went to the NASCAR. Yeah, I went to the NASCAR first. Yeah, so Florida is its own thing. But then you've got, we've been to Georgia, Charlotte, the other Charlotte.
Yeah, Texas, Alabama, Georgia. And a lot of the times we just pass through these places, but it's very culturally different to like Brooklyn and New York. It's like a foreign land. Anyway. Maybe we should do a patron part and I'll do spanners travelogue. In fact, I was going to do another AMA because I did one a couple of years ago. People liked it. If you want to like email.
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Stack or Apple or whatever. You don't need those funds. You're only supporting a corporation. But we're in that top 200 in the US sports on a Monday after our race reviews. And we wouldn't be there if it wasn't for you guys. Come and join us in our Discord. Matt, you want to talk about the Ferrari thirst trap? Well, now it's the Ferrari thirst trap. It's really the Lewis Hamilton thirst trap. Now, I do have to thank my wife, the lovely Ms. Weaver.
for putting this into my notice, but from the people who follow Formula One as much for the wives and girlfriends as they do for the racing. And we don't judge here, we love all communities equally. They have a theory that whenever Lewis posts a thirst trap picture, his latest one being from the gym, someone in F1 loses their job, and I'm just going to run down from what she sent me, what they said. 2022 July, three days later, Vettel retired.
August, another one. Ricardo loses his seat at McLaren. September, goodbye Latifi. Two days after that, another one in November. See you later, Mick. And then, on top of that, Mattia Bonata resigns. And he just put one out. And no sooner does he do this, than guess what rumors pop up on the old internet. Corner for the chop. I don't buy that.
What you don't buy that when people string together a series of unrelated events, pattern hunting after the effect, using the very specific logical fallacy called the Texas sharpshooter fallacy, you don't buy that string of bull. No, that clearly is 100% real, because look at all the evidence you've just laid out in front of me. I don't care how circumstantial it is.
What I don't buy is that it'll be a Horner. Because that guy, look, I know that recent events have obviously got a factor in there. But the guys led that team from nothing and built it into a word that is synonymous with Formula One success. And even though, yes, they might be struggling at the moment, but guess what? They struggled an awful lot through last year. And... all of the off-track issues. If anything, I'd argue the situation last year was worse than it is this year.
I saw an article saying, oh, because of the poor performance and some internal stuff and some concerns over... And I'm like, there it is. It's the internal stuff. I don't know, because they've never had poor performance. Yeah, but it happens in Formula One. If you sort of... drop away in a new regulation stat or whatever in the middle of a regulation stat.
Ebbs and flows. They were a really good functioning team in the Renault period. And maybe during that bit where Mercedes were dominating, they could possibly have said, well, that's not our fault, that's Renault. But the performance this year isn't that bad. They've had the best qualifying car on some occasions, I think. They've had a really quick car. It would be a silly sacking after six races. It would be... It's not just six races, is it? It's like 20 years. And I don't think...
that the car is as bad as people think it is. There are some sort of murmurs as well about the fact that they're trying things that McLaren has got on top. and is part of why they've got such a good car this year. So Rebel is kind of experimenting with that and is potentially why they're a bit more sort of yo-yo-y at the moment in terms of, like, the car's great. Oh, I can't stop. Oh, it feels great. And, oh, no, it's on driving.
that's why it's a bit yo-yo-y and once they get on top of that then they'll have a really great car like they can compete with McLaren as well but I certainly do not think that we're in this situation where Horner needs to go because last year the car was worse And all the off-track stuff was a lot fresher. I don't know if I agree that the car was worse last season. He won a driver's championship with...
He won a driver's championship because he built a 100-point lead in the first six races. With a car that was better than everybody else's at the beginning. Yeah, and in the middle of the season, it wasn't. It was, like, the fourth best car. Again, with a massive lead, though.
Exactly. There's more than one strategy that gets you to the end. Overall, Red Bull had the fastest car last season. I know people are making a lot of the Constructors' Championship, but that's because of the Paris situation. Overall, that best performing car was that Red Bull.
I don't know. I'd say it was the best-performing car for the first, like, third of the season, and then for the majority of the season, it wasn't. Oh, good. We're going to argue math with Chris. This will be fun. No, no, no. We're not opening up this debate again. uh but like oh okay so what's different it's like oh no oh no we're not gonna win the
The driver's title for the first time in two years or three years, whatever it's been. Four years. Has it been four years? He's won four in a row, hasn't he? He won Abu Dhabi 21 gate. He won cost cap year. And then the two after that. Yeah. Is it? Oh, God. Okay, fine. Okay, fine. So that streak's going to come to an end. When Mercedes' dominance came to an end, did they immediately get rid of Toto Wolff when Ferrari's dominance came to an end? No, they like Elliot.
They got rid of him immediately, didn't they? He was there. Yeah, well, they already have... They've already got enough people they've got rid of. Well, this is what Karen says. Karen says, is Red Bull starting to see the results of last year's loss of staff due to the internal stuff? I've brought this up before. The Pit Stop. Look at the mistakes they're making that aren't directly with the car on the track.
if you're going to look at where all this personnel shuffle is leading it's leading there The organization is starting to look ragged around the edges in ways that it never did, even when they weren't winning drivers' championships and constructors' championships. They were always... a provocateur with their strategy they always had the fastest pit stop None of that is true, and they've had a huge drain of staff.
And if I know anything about billionaire owners who aren't really interested in things is... They will just take whatever the last evidence stuck in front of their eyeballs is. Max isn't leading. Oh, let's fire Horner. Why not? And they will think that's a great business decision. Well, we, in our minds, we think, oh, Horner must be important. He's been there for such a long time. But yeah, he is still just one line item on the ledger.
And the longer you stay with the team as well, presumably the higher your demands are for wages. at some point you become Lewis Hamilton and Antonelli becomes more attractive, doesn't it? And another team would probably pay what Horner wants when you look at his reputation. You go, well, I know how to run an F1 team. So maybe, you know, an Aston Martin could get hold of a Christian Horner on a massive paycheck. And I think it's very clear that there's another faction.
where the people involved are on that side of the faction and they they couldn't do it they couldn't get rid of the king immediately but has there been enough of a slow drumbeat to go look
His reputation's not the same. He doesn't come across the same on camera anymore. His words don't carry the same weight. He can't joke around and be all jovial because it lands flat. You can just see it. If he tries to say anything like... comical or whimsical the air you can feel the air soften because there's this cloud around The crux, maybe, is that if Red Bull, like as in the owner company, has to decide between Christian and Max...
Because, as we know, Verstappen Camp does not get on particularly well with Camp Horner. If that then leads him to saying, right, well, you've given us a rubbish car and we don't even like you, so we're going to jump ship. No, no, no. What if we got rid of Chris? That is an entirely plausible scenario. Yeah, and let's not forget, there is still some unreportable in England legal action.
coming at the end of the year, because that was reported in the Dutch newspaper. So this saga has gone away from the reporting, but it is not entirely over. Is Montreal going to be over? I attempted a radio segue there, sorry. That's really great. It's Montreal over, Matt, because there's a news story about Montreal. I like Montreal. I like the Canadian Grand Prix when it rains.
I like it when it's dry, too. Yeah, it's okay. It's a brilliant track to drive on the same. It's really exciting and challenging. It's got not all of the chicanes are the type of chicanes I hate. Let's list the Montreal chicanes. They're usually like the second element of it is more of an acceleration zone. Yes, that's right. So the first one, you've got a big stop in turn. One and two. So that one is like, no, you've got to really slow down. And one is like an approach zone for turn two. Yeah.
But then, yeah, the second chicane, you're slowing down for turn one, but then you're accelerating through it, and it's whether you can stay out of the wall or not. So that's a good corner there. The third one is the same. It opens up on the exit. So is the fourth one. The only really rubbish chicane that I hate is the final one, the pit lane. That's like a proper safety slowdown chicane one. No. No, no, no.
I disagree. Okay, let's hear Chris be wrong about that chicane. Cool, carry on. I know it's not the original design, but it's a really great test of curb hopping, isn't it? and you get some great action into there as well. I think that the whole track is just... really really great and we've had some really great races that don't necessarily involve rain because also it's a tyre chewer as well let's not forget it's this track that inspired the high deck Pirelli in 2010.
The five stoppers, the five stop race. Yeah, exactly. And we're going to have the C6 tyre there as well. So they'll race on the five and the four, which means there'll be Deg there as well. And it would suck. It would suck to get rid of it, especially when... I know we're putting so much attention into the United States at the moment, but you can't just then neglect the rest of North America. But Canada's like an OG.
it's like it's been around since the 70s europe japan australia canada yeah these are like the i'm gonna miss someone out and people are gonna be upset but you know these have been like the cornerstone decades and decades long heritage locations where the f1 fan base has been and you know there's
a higher proportion of Canadian fans that were watching in the 80s and 90s, say, than American fans because you've had a nice big influx. I think America's fine. It can fill those stadiums. Miami was much fuller. all throughout the weekend this year than last year. I think Vegas, I don't know what the Vegas attendance was like, but Circuit of the Americas is packed as wearable.
Well, in Vegas, which is bad. Vegas, yeah. Yeah, but I'm going this year, so everyone's going to want to come just to ride that escalator up and down with me. The ground's going to be half full because of that. Spanners, Spanners. In Vegas last year, they filmed a bit of the F1 movie. Oh, I want to talk about the F1 movie, yeah. Yeah, I know we're going to talk about it later, but they actually filmed the crowd reacting.
Like the big Sonny Hayes crash that he has in Vegas and they wanted the crowds to be like, better if you're watching on the video version of the podcast. Next. Are they going to have to like... Add people into all the empty seats. Because there were probably many of them. But Canada's fan base justifies a Grand Prix on a track that has delivered classics. And so this will be horrible, I think, actually, if we lose the track.
Well, if we lose the track, it won't be due to the track. It won't be due to the raising on the track. It won't be due to the people who like to go to Montreal. It will be very specifically due to the people who run. the montreal grand prix um and the issue was especially last season they had loads of problems with access to the track things train shut down bad communication police The parking lots turned into absolute mud pits. The paddock leaked. The press room leaked in the rain.
And the fire department for some strange reason chose that week to do surprise inspections and shut down all of these restaurants that are normally... attended by people going to the Grand Prix. So the issue with the Montreal, from the Formula One point of view, is less to do with the track or the racing and a lot more to do with the facilities.
and the way the city is treating the race itself. And if we look at tracks that have been on the chopping block, Spa, for example, they invested loads in improving facilities at the track. If you look at every track right now, One thing they're doing is they're investing in facilities not just for the people who have the paddock pass and not just for the people who are the corporate bigwigs.
But for the people who are attending in the grandstands, they're working to make that side of the track as engaging and entertaining. as being in the paddock club, and Montreal fell well short of that, and as a result, unlike all the other tracks where they're talking about extensions already, There's been no discussion yet. So we don't know where this lands, but we know that they're looking at Thailand. They're looking at Africa with Galapenta. They're looking at Argentina now.
And they're all bringing lots and lots and lots and lots of brand new money to the Formula One table. I don't mean to doom spiral with this because it is a classic race and it's been on the calendar a long time. People love it. But this is not, again, this is not something to be fully ignored either. And the organizers need to get their act together this year or else they will have a real problem.
I have this as just like local media being a little bit sensationalist because everything you just listed there, Matt, these are all very easily fixable things. Right? That just needs a little bit of communication to work through it. It's not like... oh, no one's coming, and the track is terrible, and everyone hates it, and the viewership is awful, right? It's just, it's not that bad. It's not that bad. We don't need to get rid of it. I love that you compared it to Spock.
because it just reminded me how angry I am that we put a track like that on rotation. Yeah, no, I've forgotten about that. Oh, now I'm angry. Imola, apparently we're going to keep Imola. Well, I don't know. So Adam reckons, oh, hello, Adam from MotoGP pod, reckons that this will be the last year. I am alive. So I don't think there's a conflict. But I hope so.
I do as well. I know it's a classic track, and again, it's a good track. I mean, a lot of history at Imola with Formula One. It's a good track to run around. I know I say in the sim as if that means anything. It's all the experience I have. But it's definitely one that I would have gotten rid of. And it was gotten rid of for a reason. And it came back as a savior during COVID.
And we've had one decent race there, haven't we? One decent one when it rained in 2021. But in 2021, there were no bad races. So, you know, that was more the season than the circuit, I feel like. Um, that was another Hamilton versus Verstappen crash. That's it. Yeah. But speaking of like COVID savior, Why didn't we keep going back to Mugello instead of Imola? Why didn't we keep going back to Turkey instead of Imola? Marnie, I'm guessing the answer is Marnie, isn't it? No, I know, but it's just
It's so frustrating. One discussion would be, is there a way to make street circuits not terrible? Is there a way to do that? And B, which tracks should we ring fence forever? So tracks to ring fence forever would be, and this is a combination of it's a good track and fan bases. All right, I'll go for Silverstone. Obviously, it's the best track in the world.
Silverstone. If you were going to ring fence an American track, it's got to be Circuit of the Americas. That's one of the best on the whole circuit. I would do Montreal because of the Canadian, you know, the OG-ness. Pick one of the Australian tracks. I don't love the circuit. I don't love Melbourne. But it's fan base. It's definitely in that Montreal kind of... thing as well. If you gave Melbourne the weather, then, you know... It's better now than it was.
pre-COVID, since they updated the circuit. I would have put Spa there, I would have put Nürburgring there, but it's outgoing Nürburgring, isn't it? I think... Nerva Greenwood in, like, five or six years' time be Imola. Do you know what I mean? Like, it feels really great now, but then you're actually watching, and you're like, oh, no. It's quite narrow. It's quite narrow, isn't it, as well? But Yechtenheim, though. Yeah.
Yeah, with the stadium section through there, not the miles and miles of forest. It doesn't exist anymore. I own a lawnmower. I'll just get on it. It's fine. It can't be that bad. I 100% would have put Spa on that protected list. For sure. Yeah, it's pretty gross that Spar's not surviving. What was the first part of that one? Oh yeah, how can we make street circuits not suck? You make them like Montreal. You go back to 1992 car sizes. So basically, that's not going to happen.
So that's not going to happen. There's going to be more street circuits. Well, Vegas has been all right for the last couple of years, hasn't it? Because I was waiting for a massive, I told you so. That first race was pretty decent. Yeah, but that's the thing, though. It's been all right. hasn't it? It's still one of those races where they're more concerned with showing off the scenery than the racetrack.
Because it's not a racetrack. I also don't want to see just more soulless event spaces going into countries. that are not necessarily... It's so difficult to sort of phrase this like where we should be going. But what's the demonstrated fan base in Rwanda? How many people are actually going to turn up to a Rwandan Grand Prix, for example? Yeah, sorry, my son just completely terrified me. I normally have the room closed because I was home alone.
Yeah, anyway, so he snuck up on me there and didn't realise I was streaming. So sorry if any of that came out. Yeah, I've lost my flow. You've got away with it, Spanners. And then I've just said it all. So that's fine. We can do it. We can get that in the edit. The last thing I think I probably want to talk about now because I've just realized it's so wonderful chatting with you guys.
Time has flown by. I do love these midweek chats. Significantly less people do listen to the midweek than the race reviews, just because there's less buzz about it. But I think... It's a nice place for us to be and we can be more chill. The F1 movie though, the final trailer has dropped and Okay, I'm now, I'm trying to shift my expectation away from
I want this to be a documentary about Formula One and everything to be technically accurate to going, I need to appreciate it for a bigger audience. They're going to make decisions. like Sonny Hayes running around with his gloves on. celebrating at the Mexican Grand Prix. There was footage of that. And then you go, man, literally the first thing you do is get them off. And the first thing you put on, this is the last thing you put on.
just because anybody who's tried to do up a helmet with the little straps with their gloves on you're instantly going oh no you're going to turn it off plus like they're all on their instagrams right up to the last minute But also, it's such an unnecessary thing for him to have on in that scene, isn't it? Yeah. It's like, why wouldn't someone have just gone, oh, actually, yeah, take the gloves off. Well, they're like...
Better on camera with the gloves on. That better not have been an artistic choice. Jerry Bruckheimer sat there being like, no, keep the gloves on. They did say... They probably just said, go on, put on your race driver costume now. And then he's just put on his race driver costume. I think it's probably as simple as that. The only thing that's actually jarred me in the trailers is the... Our hope is to make it in the turns. They have not shown that cliff again.
No, that was it. They said, yeah, all these teams, they're fast on the streets. We're going to get them in the turns. They go, ah, the tongues! The tongues! What did they come up? The tongues! I think, I reckon, if they're any kind of smart, they'll have edited that out of the movie because that bit of a trailer came out. So long ago, there's easily enough time for them to be like, why don't we just... If we're any part of the discourse that made them, I would be so happy if they abandoned that.
I would love that. The other one was safety. Who said anything about safety? The FIA, Brad. The FIA is really notoriously one of the safest motorsports in history. Spanners, I am going to give that line a slight lifeline because every single designer and every single race team We'll run it to the absolute limit of the safety parameter if it means they can go quicker. No, but to say that no one said anything about safety, I mean, you've got to pass the crash test.
Sorry, this car doesn't pass the crash test. Who said anything about passing a crash test? I mean, section three. Technical regulations can tell you the exact Newton meters each impact structure has to be able to absorb in order to pass. And just ask Red Bull how many chassis they went through for that special nose they had. And was it 2018 or 2019? It was extraordinary, the lengths they went to to get that thing homologated so they could use it for the season.
Why didn't they put that in the trailer? You guys sound like pilots reacting to Top Gun Maverick, says Jason. It's the same person. It's Jerry Brockheimer and Top Gun Maverick was pretty good. It was amazing. Yeah, it was pretty good. One of the greatest films ever made. I know, but it was never going to live up to Top Gun. But I love what they did with them. I think as legacy sequels go, it was pretty good. one. It's the closest one ever. Their abs made me feel bad about myself.
Yeah, it did to me as well. It's got some really funny lines in it as well. So I'm hoping it brings some of that character in. But this trailer is very character focused between the... So he's like, I ain't going to bend the knee to some old fart that comes along. And they had to address their...
Oh, he's pushing 60. Yeah, but he's still really good looking though, right? And I'm like, well, yeah, for a 60. He's not 60 in the movie though, is he? No, they said he's like 59 in the movie. Shut up. It's in the trailer.
It's in the trailer. I don't remember hearing the age. Oh, I'm going to have to go and watch it again. I'm going to have to watch it back after. No, but they're definitely addressing how old he is. Because he's the same age as Martin Brundle, isn't he? How old is Martin Brundle? I don't know. OBE. Congratulations to Martin. By the way, how deserved is that? It was an MBE, not an OBE.
Oh, I'm sorry. Oh, no, you're right. You're right. OBE. So Order of the British Empire. The problem is they're all the same to me because I don't know what any of them are. Well, is OBE the higher one? No, is OBE the higher one? Somebody tell us how they rank. If only we had a chat that could look things up for us. But as far as broadcasters go, I will take a second to say Martin Bondall.
formula one broadcasting oh yeah before that it was it was either guess what was going on or just listening to the fantastic Hunt, James Hunt. Just slating everyone. Like James Hunt would just be on there going, What on earth is this driver doing? What on earth is this driver doing in a Grand Prix car? He should never be here. He should ballywell go away. And then Murray Walker going,
And I can't believe it! The Williams has won the Grand Prix! No, that's the Minardi and it's just pitting Murray. You know, because Murray Walker would just get super excited about stuff. Brundle came in and brought fat... and information and analysis and real proper race driver analysis to it. And the fact that he's been able to keep it going for this many decades and is still... Like a stalwart of information for the sport is incredible. Completely unmatched in the industry.
Not going to stop me slagging him off when I disagree with a thing he says, but I'm just saying. No, definitely. earned 100%. Oh yeah, Brad Pitt, same age as Mike. Right, so Brad Pitt. I will say, this new trailer, definitely the best one that they've put out. And I think the fact that you described it as a character-led trailer...
is also really telling of how we need to tell stories in movies. Like, this is going to get all sort of artsy-fartsy in a second. It's the end of the show. People only listen for half an hour. There's like a very distinct drop-off. There's like a cliff. Vroom. So, well, it's like Andor, I'm watching Andor at the moment, and that is a very character-led, you know.
series. I haven't checked it out yet. And it's the greatest television I've ever seen. Really? Yeah, no, 100%. Based on that, I'm starting that tonight. Alright, you should, yeah, do it. You like The Mandalorian. This is like a million times better than The Mandalorian. And, is it, what's his name, Diego Luna? Is he the lead in Andor? He was my absolute favourite in The Book of Life, the animated cartoon. He was the lead in that.
He was also the cleaner guy in Terminal, you know, whilst his chops gets trapped in an airport. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Tom Hanks. Tom Hanks. But for the eight people still listening, he was saying...
Keep trying to make a point. Do you know what? Also, I haven't hung out with Chris for ages, so I'm just enjoying hanging out. This is true. We actually, we genuinely have a proper conversation. Oh, Chris, I can't come to your birthday. I'm so sorry. I can't come to your birthday. No! But do you know why? Do you know what? It's because You're taking so many of the Miss Apex crew to your birthday on the Monaco Grand Prix day.
So it's only... My choice is to have you on Stuffy, basically. Well, no, because Stuffy can't do it because he does his watch-alongs, so he has to be at home anyway by the time all that's wrapped up. And Matt is going to be in Italy. So basically, I... Are you in Italy? Seeing his daughter.
Yeah, because my daughter's doing a study abroad there, and we, as responsible parents, have to go over and make sure she's okay. Why do you have to? Spoiler, his adult daughter is absolutely fine, loving it, and not looking forward to her parents coming around.
My wife thought it was a good excuse to go take a trip to Italy. It's one of those two. I forget where. So I think it's going to be me and Scott for the Monaco review. Sorry. You don't even like Monaco. Anyway, for the six people still listening. Yeah, yeah. Slowly getting lower. Yeah, I don't have much more to say about the movie now, to be honest with you. It looks great. It does look great. The F1 car porn, like... Cinematography. It's just...
I'm going to love it. I'm genuinely going to just enjoy this movie, I think. I don't care, like, all the things you said at the beginning of the segment, where it's like, all these things, no, no, no, no, we ask those hardcore fans. I'm not going to care, because I'm just going to be like, Formula One has never looked this good! Let's face it, if we wanted a realistic movie, it would mostly be three hours of them trying to figure out how to get him to pass the FIA, exit the cockpit.
test quickly enough because none of his joints work properly anymore. And also, is there a minimum sound level? Because at that age, getting out of a cockpit, you're like... Like, Dad's sitting down. No, I can't get in and out of a chair silently. It's just literally, it's impossible. What I want to say about the film. Oh yeah, someone was saying it's like fighter pilots critiquing Top Gun Maverick.
So you all see that in your trade. If your trade appears on TV, like if there's a, I bet you go mad, don't you, at the Drive to Survive dubs of the commentary that they do afterwards, the fake commentary that fits in perfectly with the storyline. I also get mad every time there's like... Like a journalist in a TV series or something, or like a TV report.
um and and things like that and they're working with like media stuff it never goes the way it does in in real life they used the weapon system i was currently working on in a movie and i saw it in the movie and the way it moved towards the target i was like oh that slew rate is wrong and it did this kind of like uh stutter thing as it stopped and i'm like no it has specific systems in it to stop
that exact movement because it would mess with the launch and stuff. And I found out, I went, this is so weird. Like, I thought they got it from us, the system. They took out all the actual hydraulics and electronic systems and put in animatronics. So to make it move how they want it to move in a movie. The really good example of this is suit. The lawyer, I think, yeah.
Yeah, because there are videos like that as well of like lawyers watch suits and they're like, this is all very illegal. But like... no one cares because it's so good and everyone's really good looking and they say god damn it all the time and they slap documents onto tables and they take one look at it and they're like dear god Where did you get this? And they go, you wouldn't want to know.
paulo's saying he's waiting he says the stream's pace seems to have stabilized a bit i'm waiting for a well-timed safety car to bring oh look look the show ended Clearly about 10 minutes ago. I apologize for everything that followed. But go and follow Chris. So this had more of a Patreon pod feel. I'm at Darlington Park this weekend as well. Commentating. On the TV. Oh, you're on TV! Chris is a TV commentator. I'm actually on TV because I couldn't talk about it for ages.
So yeah, I'm on TV. Now we won't stop talking about it. TNT Sports on coverage of the British Superbike Championship support classes. If you were watching in Alton Park, maybe you... Saw, obviously it's a very UK thing, but... Um, you can, if you, you can watch it like in the U S some people were asking me about this. You can watch it on, um, in the streams. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Most of the TV, uh, quest here in the UK, um, as well, or just on the discovery plus app.
So, yeah, that's a thing. And he's a superstar now, so let's not even put links in the show notes. He's on telly. He doesn't need us anymore, does he? I am now officially to be introduced as TV. Was it last year, Chris? We were like, if we lose enough weight, they'll put us on tally. I think it's worked for you. I'm obviously still too... It's a little bit, although I'd hate to admit it. I'd put back on... Christopher! I know! Right, okay, we'll shake that off. Matt!
Go and follow Matt. Matt's not on telly. Who cares about Matt? No. You can just go see me in real life in various concerts or just come have a drink with me in Brooklyn if you're there. Or come to one of our events. I'm having very, very serious conversations now with people who are going to support. Myst Apex being out and about in the world, there seems to be a need or a desire. I've wondered before, if we turn up and do an event, will anyone turn up? And it just feels like...
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