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finally we're going to have some racing action and normally i would be spending this time trying to dampen down expectations because the secret of a happy life I've learned as a middle-aged dad of teenagers, is low expectations. But I can't help it because there is potential for this to be the greatest Australian Grand Prix ever.
How's that for managing expectations? We've got a field, a third full of rookies who are going to have to be racing probably in the rain. We've got dry qualifying leading into a wet race and we've got potentially... Eight drivers in with a shot of winning this race and then going on to challenge for the title. With us is Matt to Rumpets. Hello, Matt. Dampin'.
Rain, I see what you did there. You pretend to not like puns, and yet I've caught you at it again. I didn't do it. I was hilarious by accident. And we've also got joining us from Australia, Jonathan Siman. Hello, Jono. I was very excited about this week in Spanners, and then today I lost my favorite pair of sunglasses. But luckily, and as sad as I am right now, luckily I won't need them for race day because it might rain.
Are you only going for race day? So you're going to be joining us on the race review panel, but you're going to be at the stadium for the race. Correct. I'm going to go all three days. So Friday, Saturday, Sunday. For Sunday, it's going to rain. We'll talk about it a little bit later on, but it doesn't rain that often for the Australian Grand Prix, which is what I found out about when I was preparing for this podcast. It's rarely rained. But the weather forecast is pretty sure, is it?
that we're going to get rain on Sunday. And no disrespect to the Australian Grand Prix. It is the spiritual opening race of Formula One. I wouldn't have it any other way. But the amount of times we've been so excited over the off season, get to the Australian Grand Prix and go, oh, right. Not to say that it hasn't had some great races, but I definitely vote for, if there's a vote, I vote for rain if there's going to be a vote.
Well, the contract for the Australian Grand Prix is until, I think the current contract's about until 2037, roughly. It's been reported as 2035 as well. I don't know. It keeps changing per report. But because they're only allowed to host it... or the season opener four more times in the next 12 years.
the compensation for that was bringing Formula 2 and Formula 3 over. So that's the bonus now as a Formula 1 fan. When I was younger going to this race and growing up, I never got to see F2 and F3. Now I get my opportunity in the Southern Hemisphere. I know it's been around for a few years already, but it's back.
again it's actually like a real ripper of an event so that's 400 plus thousand fans might break a record again so what's the support series then so you've got f2 is going to be there f2 f3 you got supercars i'm pretty sure porsches are there too i don't think there's anything else from memory i haven't really bothered to look that deep into it
So I assume, since this is Australia, that all of those cars will be on track at the same time in the same race? With kangaroos as well. And wallabies. Oh no. I actually drove past 15 Wallabies today and I was like, well, that would be interesting if they made their way onto the Grand Prix track somehow this week. But anyway, I'm really excited, Spanners. And like you said, the weather forecast is picking up. I don't know when you want to talk about that.
But it looks like more and more likely by the week that it is going to rain. I know in F1, it's normally the standard where we predict rain. And then it never comes. In this occasion, it keeps getting more likely, which is good. Tell you what, we're going to...
do some predictions so that we look nice and stupid by the time time Friday comes around and Red Bull are clear up ahead. And we've all said that they were going to be the fifth best car. But there is some news and it is Australia related. So I guess it's sort of breaking news. It does warrant the news bumper. Big Dirty News.
So it is about Oscar Piastri and Oscar Piastri was re-signed by McLaren with a year to go on his contract. Normally, you know, these kind of things, if there's any doubt, we don't get told about it until the end of the season. But by signing it at the beginning of the season, it dismisses any doubt at all through the season that they're going to be looking for anybody else for 2026. It sends a clear message that Piastri is seen as part of the future and sends kind of a hands off.
to the rest of the grid. Now, bearing in mind, we do have Jono here, and I'm just going to assume that there's an Australian bias. However, I asked the question on our Missed Apex TikTok, what do you Piastri fans see? that I'm not seeing from his results, from his level of competence against his teammate? What are you seeing that makes him one of the most sought after drivers on the grid? and that is making snapping up his contract a must-do on the Zac Brown to-do list. I'm going, okay, so...
And reportedly, it's what, like 20 million pounds per year? I don't know. That's from a source that I'm not going to mention. Wow, that's big. Because they're very unreliable. But it's a lot of money. And it's reportedly until 2029. Now, I don't know how true that is, but if that's the case, that's some real good future investment in Oscar Piastri, who Mark Webber, his agent...
Got to be voted agent of the decade. I mean, Oscar Piastri was supposed to be driving an Alpine. Now could be fighting for a championship in a McLaren. Mark Webber, whose agent, can I just mention, was Flavio Briatore at one stage in his driver career. So he's learned from...
basically the best the godfather vito corleone himself so i think it's a great deal for piastri but i don't know what this means for Lando Norris like my only nitpick if I had to pick something here is is he the right guy to push Lando Like Lando right now is, I don't feel like he's pushed him last year. I feel like he pushed him a couple of times, but not enough. Now, if this is, if we've seen the best out of Lando Norris, what's going to push him to a world championship? He's just...
Do you get what I'm kind of saying here? Yeah. So let's establish a baseline here, which is I agree with you. I don't think he pushed Lando Norris last year. Obviously he got some results, but that... happens when you're in a top car so you know Bottas won some races in Mercedes Perez won races at Red Bull but no one's rating Perez or Bottas as you know the top top drivers so I had a lot of people saying oh he won two races what more do you want
Well, being a lot closer to his teammate consistently, you know, putting together that sort of Sunday race pace across a range of different tyre conditions. I think that was something we've immediately flagged. But the main argument... Matt, that I've gotten from people is that Piastri's got more potential. He's already been in F1 for two years. I don't remember us. We used to give drivers two years and then say, oh, they've still got more, a higher ceiling to go.
Yeah, this is this is one of these complicated arguments, because really, I think if you want to fully understand what a driver possesses, I think especially with these regulations, you need two years. The cars are so much more complicated to drive and F2 doesn't do a great job of preparing the drivers because a lot of the tools you get in Formula 1 aren't available to you in Formula 2.
Never mind, the cars are like 12 seconds slower as well. Give me an example. Mid-entry, exit, differential settings. Brake balance, brake shapes. I think they have some of the basic tools, but a lot of the more advanced tools and all the different maps and stuff like that, they don't have those as much. And then the other thing which you really hit on here. is the Pirelli tires themselves are always a moving target.
being able to extract the maximum. If we look at how McLaren performed across the past season, where we saw Norris always strongest was in the final stint at the end of the race. And that is the thing that Piastri is still, I think, working to master. Now, obviously, McLaren think he can do it, but he's not done it yet. Yeah, and he's not done it yet. This is another big argument.
that people have said, because it's really a lot of comments in this TikTok, but they've said, yeah, but he's fast. I don't disagree. He's going to beat us all in a go-kart. He's fast. Fine. I get that. I accept that. And I think any given Saturday, it's a bit of a toss up, I think. I think Norris has been better in qualifying, but Piastri could beat Norris any given qualifying. But we were able to pick out ahead of time and go...
We think this tyre wear is high, therefore that's going to suit Norris more than Piastri. And it worked out a bunch of times, unless I'm just misremembering. I'm just going, yeah, I'm such a genius. I got that right all the time. But we had people in the comments saying...
Well, if he just sorts his tyre wear stuff out, then he'll be, because he's already fast, sort the tyre wear out and he'll be just as fast as Norris. But that does sound a lot like saying, yeah, if he just ran the race faster, he'd be faster. Well, yeah, exactly. It's like saying if, you know, anyway, you got there basically. If Carlos Sainz was better than Charles Leclerc, he'd beat Charles Leclerc anyway. If I practiced really hard at chess, I'd have been much better at chess.
But it doesn't, look, at the end of the day, it doesn't matter for Piastri whether he beats Norris. And here's why. It's for McLaren I'm saying here in that contest. They want someone here. They're happy with the lineup. This is what this signing shows. He's not a disruption. The lineup's working at the moment. Lando Norris and him together. They had... any controversy they had last year like you remember hungary when piastri won like that was sorted out it got controversial but it kind of
ended up being okay at the end of the day. Piastri was okay supporting Norris towards the end of the year. So I think McLaren have shown they have faith in him. He's a mellow guy. He doesn't seem like he causes much controversy, and you need one mellow guy in a two-driver relationship.
to make a two-person relationship work. He was so mellow, he didn't even let his mum know he was signing the contract extension. She tweeted out saying, well, this was a surprise. You didn't tell me at breakfast this morning. That's how mellow Piastri is. He's not even breaking those rules.
How important is Australia to our overall audience here, Spanners? It's a fair chunk, Matt. And panel members, too, as well. All right. Well, whatever. I'm not worried about you. And look, you're going to get hammered in the edit as well, remember.
if you slay Australia too much. No, no, no. And this is not meant to disparage Australians, actually, who are some of my favorite people in the world. Too late. Thank you. This is true. But it just came to me as you were talking about him not being a disruption. What if McLaren have decided he will never quite be as good as Norris, but will be like a slightly worse Rosberg was to Hamilton at Mercedes? Which is perfect. That's okay. If he's compliant.
Yeah, well, I mean, if he's never quite going to get there, but he's going to be able to score, you know, 48% of the points compared to Norris's 52%, then isn't he the perfect person to have on long term? And you think they had that in the contract negotiations and they were saying to Webber, you know, what have they told Mark Webber? I think I think Webber paid his buddy Christian Horner, because remember, he used to raise for Red Bull 10 bucks to say on Netflix, I'd have Oscar.
And then they duped McLaren into spending stupid amounts of money on Oscar instead of making a better car. Matt, did we talk about this? Because I made that exact same observation. Drive to survive. And I think... and Horner and Red Bull are pretty tight. And I think on more than one occasion, they've run the Red Bull narrative fairly one-sided. And I think this season of Drive to Survive was no exception. But they did this. The whole narrative of that was...
Norris is mentally weak, which is a line Red Bull pushed. Red Bull have pushed that line. He's mentally weak to disrupt it. And then they did the big question, who would you take? Oscar or Orlando? And he looks dead into the camera. Oscar. And then they had about eight other people saying Oscar. And then they had a picture of a cat that meowed, but the subtitle was Oscar. And they really painted that narrative of, of course you...
It's universally known and accepted that you would definitely take Piastri over Norris. I'm just, I'm not seeing what people are seeing. Nah, I would take Norris too. No doubt about it. And I would take a mentally weak Norris over...
what piastri shown we just saw mentally weak norris lose a championship and he was still better than oscar piastri and i know matt you were talking before about getting used to the f2 car i know compared to the f3 compared to f1 and all that kind of business but like he's had enough How many drivers in F1 have come in and in year three you've gone...
Oh, okay. Now he's a world championship talent. Now he's five. No, look, all of a sudden he's become Michael Schumacher. Where did that come from? They've been like that from like their first or second race. Like barely any drivers come in and change their talents. Okay. We should, we should challenge.
ourselves on that because that's quite a romantic notion that I also share so what you've just said I agree with you like I think yeah we don't really see yet the Lewis Hamilton's emerge in year three like we knew Verstappen was inconsistent but we knew what he could do But he was mega. Yeah, he was mega. And you're like, he's mega, but he smashed into a car again. For three years as well, he smashed into cars. Or four years. Yeah, yeah. But there was no debate.
over how good Verstappen was initially. So I'll give some examples, but then these are less rated drivers. So Tsunoda seems to have taken an uptick in his third or fourth seasons. Norris probably is an example of that himself. And Leclerc maybe too. No, well, Leclerc was really touted right from the beginning. But remember, Leclerc was losing to Vettel at Ferrari initially. Before races.
And then by Race 5 Canada, Vettel gave up on his career because of, you know, the whole pit board incident. Oh, yeah. I'm not going to give context. Good memory. And then after that, Leclerc wiped the floor with him basically for the rest of... His time at Ferrari. Same with Norris. Norris came into McLaren, and I thought he was pretty good from the get-go. So, look...
In future now, and I kind of brought this up with you guys before the podcast, but what does this kind of mean for the driver market now for the future? Because you've got basically McLaren's locked up, Ferrari's locked up with Leclerc and Hamilton. So now... With the Mercedes deals coming to a close this season, both contracts, if they then sign Max Verstappen...
That means George Russell and Kimi Antonelli, they only have one place to go to win races again, and that's going to be Red Bull. It's going to have to be a swap if Mercedes go for Verstappen and buy him out of his very long Red Bull contract. Okay. I will say we've got...
seven or eight new drivers, what more do you want? We've had the big driver transfer thing. We've had it. You've already eaten your cake. You don't need more cake. But yeah, Russell's vulnerable, I think. There could be a space at Red Bull. Lawson will be vulnerable as well. I think he's only got a one-year contract too. But I just wanted... I was hoping one of you was going to come out to bat really hard for Piastri there. The comment...
Comments in the YouTube, we'll address them. I will do YouTube shorts as well if you want, and I'll reply to the comments here. I literally just want to know what you have seen from Piastri that would make you go, he is now a better driver than... lando norris i think the argument i like the least is that there's an extra hidden ceiling that hasn't been unlocked yet the only good argument for that is at the beginning of 2024
You know, he's still in his first 13, 14 months. Maybe this season he can get a better start and get more momentum behind him and get the team around him a bit more, get the car. tweaked and developed around him a little bit more but in general i'm not buying that argument so i want to say two things first of all regarding piastri if you want a positive argument for why you might take him over norris
all things being equal, I would just point to the move into the, what is it, turn five at Monza. A lot, we've given Norris a lot of stick as to how he's raced Verstappen and the way, the way Piastri races. I don't think we'd be having these same arguments that we do with Norris. Number one. Norris claims that he didn't know that that move was sort of a thing that could happen.
And he says, the quote was, if I thought that was a thing that would happen, he wouldn't have been able to do it because I could have defended. So he's basically saying, well, I wasn't defending Piastri because I didn't think we'd be racing like that. But the fact that he made that move, and we've seen him make other moves like that against people, I think argues to more of a, this is a wider...
But remember, we used to talk about like Bottas and Hamilton and how they raced. And I think it argues to how Piastri races. that he might have an advantage, sort of that intuitive move advantage that we sometimes see certain drivers have. So I would definitely make that argument for him. And then you can say, well...
Norris as well has lost out a lot on lap ones. So maybe that gives Piastri or this. And it's, by the way, it's easy to interpret what I'm saying is Piastri is not good. That's not what we're talking about. We're talking about between Norris and Piastri. Well, that's what I was going to say. Yeah. Go ahead. It's basically like, let's clarify YouTube comments. We're not saying Oscar Piastri's crap.
We're saying he's a really, really good driver. We're just trying to see who would you pick between Lando Norris and Oscar Piastri in the title fight. My answer to that, just before I go to you, Matt, is wait for race six. Wait for May this year, and if one of them has a one-race advantage over the other, that's your answer. I think it's pretty tight between the two, but I still think Norris, like we said, I don't think we're going to see Oscar Piastri year three.
Wow, where did this come from? He's Juan Manuel Fangio. I didn't expect this from Oscar Piastri. He's going to be the same as last year. There's going to be no difference. Yeah, and you wouldn't expect year three Lando to be year seven Lando or whatever it is. But I also just need to make a point about like the margins we're discussing here.
like if you go through if you say okay they both had a good race they both maximized what where they could finish they finished first and second what was the time difference between them allowing for maybe they didn't go as fast as they absolutely had to and you just calculate out the percentage difference it's like 0.05%. We're talking incredibly fine margins here, but that's what makes champions. I want to go back. There's definitely more news.
I think we should go back to the Australian Grand Prix. We don't have a Sunday's amount of time. We're recording this during the day. Oh, my God. And Jono, it's already like half two. in the morning for for Jono and he's not allowed to complain because I'm bravely going to be getting up at three o'clock in the morning to watch the Australian Grand Prix but it's a tradition it's a tradition I love when
Australia was the opening Grand Prix especially. I used to love it with my babies. I'd get up and I'd be the hero because I'd get up and do the morning feed, you know, rock the babies and I'd be actually, I'm just watching the Australian Grand Prix, but I got the credit for being a good dad. No, it just happened to be the Australian Grand Prix. So, yeah, it's a tradition. As much as I might complain about it, I do love doing that. We will be doing our live stream around 8.30am UK time.
Obviously, for those of you not getting up for the race, catch up with us later. And yeah, it's going to be too early. I'm fearing it. I fear it. So let's go to Matt. What should we be looking out for? Australian Grand Prix. Track, tyres, weather. Let's do that. All right. So the easiest and simplest thing is to start with the tyres. It's the C3, C4, C5. Last year was...
mostly a two stopper for everyone with one medium tire and uh one hard tire or and two hard tires uh making making the making the rounds uh there have been some small changes i think for the 2025 tires and there's been a little bit of circuit reprofiling around turn six curbs um and i think really The bigger thing is going to be the fan experience, which I know Jono has been featuring, has been looking at quite a lot. Well, there was an Instagram post the other day. 55% more shade. That's...
Groundbreaking. No, I'm not being... That sounded sarcastic, but it actually is because it's going to be very sunny. Saturday was supposed to be 37 degrees, like stinking hot. 37 degrees Celsius, which is like 98, 99 Fahrenheit. for our US listeners and whoever uses that unit of measurement. Anyway, 22% more super screens is the other thing I saw in the Instagram post, which is important.
Because if there's anybody listening who's never been to a Grand Prix, my first couple of experiences, it is so essential to have a screen in front of you while you're watching the race from the track, especially if you have a grandstand seat. But the one I'm very disappointed in is 17% more toilets. Now, it felt like there was only one toilet last year.
So is that like 1.17 toilets this year in 2025? Like I feel like it needs to be like a 1 million percent increase. Anyway, that is the crucial update I will give on Sunday. First up. Forget the race. I'll let you all know how long I had to wait for a toilet break. But it's good. And credit to the Australian Grand Prix. I know a lot of people who work on this event and they...
They really value fan feedback. They do it, in my opinion, as good as any other Grand Prix out there in the world. And they really incorporate what people want to say. They put in a new pontoon you were talking about as well, Matt. Of course, the overpass too, that just make people...
you know bump into each other less but the track invasion that's my favorite one that's come back i used to set like world records i used to get right in front of the podium like before any other fan i'm telling you right now watch the races from
I think 2018 was my record or 2019. And then COVID happened. And then after that, I just couldn't, I don't know, for some reason, too many people came and I just struggled to get like right near the podium. But that became a full-on like mission for me. I studied that to a T. And it is one of the funnest things of an F1 fan is to storm the track after the race. I have to say there's a great series that the track has put up about.
putting the putting the event together if you're a logistics fan at all it's on youtube you should go find it that's where i saw them putting in the new pontoon bridge talking about doing the curbs at turn six and stuff like that But what really struck me is they have a very clear idea of what they have to deliver on from the basics all the way to the premium.
things to make it a better experience year over year. And the director was talking about how it's a challenge being in a public park because you do start from zero, but that also gives you the ability to reimagine things.
year over year in a way that it's much harder for a permanent facility to do and having been to uh grand prix now at miami things like you know is there a huge traffic jam to go Across the overpass to get someplace it becomes a really big deal and the fact that they're thinking about it On a year-over-year basis probably means it's one of the better events to go to as a fan
That said, the top comment there was, you guys need more toilets, so you may be onto something with your reporting there, Jono. No, 100%. And then the other thing was, I can't remember if you mentioned it, Matt, but the pit lane exit line, this is actually a big deal. uh restored to the 20 it was reported as 2018 configuration but i think that's wrong i don't know who reported that it's the 29 configuration and it's basically like the pit lane exit you will see when you watch the event
If what I'm reading is correct, it'll be a lot more fatter and wider. It's basically going to be almost more than half the width of the front straight. So when you're coming out of the pit lane... you could almost go two or three wide. Like that's how wide this pit exit line is going to be, if that's what I'm understanding from this. If you watch the 2018-2019 race highlights, you'll see what I'm talking about when they exit the pits. Now, no, that's not a massive deal.
But we've seen some slow cars come out of pit lane in qualifying. We could see the order change on pit exit. The blend line's very long. So I think that's also kind of could play a factor as well. And most importantly, no DRS changes because this track, for some reason...
is perfect and doesn't need like help overtaking like isn't this one of the worst tracks on the calendar to overtake at like shouldn't they have extended drs to the whole circuit well they basically have if you look at the drs map there's only two drs zones
But they both have a corner in the middle of the DRS deployment where you can then redeploy after you get through the corner. And that's because... it's there's no long enough straight for drs to actually let you catch and overtake someone generally you catch them right at the corner then you have to catch them back up
and then you still haven't passed them and then you're at the next drs detection point so it just makes the race go faster i think all right so we are going to have to put our reputations on the line here with some predictions, but we can delay that by saying, okay, you said there was more on the weather. I think, is it a case of like Canada, if it's raining?
chance of a good grand prix if it's not raining it's pretty much gonna you know come home unless there's a safety car it's gonna come home in a procession well if you look at history like we had We had 2010, wet start, changing conditions, really good race, like one of the best races of the decade. Jenson Button capitalizes wins in changing conditions.
We haven't really had another wet Australian Grand Prix, surprisingly, in however many years the event's now, almost 30 years. I think 2003, there was like heavy rain before the race and it was like... Some people allege it was a damp start. That was pretty much dry at the start of that race.
i i think for like imagine seeing like a wet australian grand prix full wet start to finish we could have a classic like we had a classic last year what was that brazil i can't remember what track it was it was one of the best races i'd ever seen oh yeah yeah yeah yeah Yeah, we could. And this genuinely does have the potential to be the most exciting Australian Grand Prix ever. It's dampen those expectations.
yeah well you think brazil but then also remember spa where they just drove around behind the safety car for half an hour said some points were handed out and then everyone sat around for two and a half hours waiting for the race to actually end so Hopefully it's not that much rain. Yeah, the kind of rain is really important for my predictions as well. So I got pretty upset and then I got yelled at for being upset about this, about Tsunoda in Brazil.
So I don't know how much attention you pay to this, but while all the rest of the drivers were complaining on the radio about the intermediates, oh, it's too dangerous on my tyres that are not at all the correct tyre to be on right now. Tsunoda and a couple of other drivers went in. got wets, Tsunoda's pace was incredible.
It was get to the front of the pack. Incredible. It was massive pace advantage. And then suddenly everybody else would have to go, oh, we shouldn't have just been whining on the radio. We should have gone and got our wets. And when they eventually do, come out behind Tsunoda. Incredible. He made the right decision. And the red flag just completely robbed him of it. So I really wish Formula One would get to a point where that crossover point, is it later so that...
you should go on to wets when you need wets, or are we going to go down this path of any time you need full wets, it's either a red flag or we don't start the race? Because it is pointless at the moment. We never get to that crossover point. So that though... Full wet conditions. If it's on that borderline, that suits Verstappen. I don't care how bad that Red Bull looks or how scruffy it looks. If it's even close to full wet conditions, my prediction will be Max Verstappen. Even if...
He qualifies eighth. I think Verstappen's reputation as the full rain master of those full wet conditions is pretty formidable at this point. Hard to argue with that. We don't really know how the car is going to drive, but it's going to be a good enough car and you'll be going slow enough that I think the margins where it becomes problematic won't show up in that level of rain.
If it's less than that, if it's like sort of, if it is proper enter conditions or enter to drying conditions, it could get really fascinating. And I just want to chuck in there. I get your frustration with the crossover point and they're working on new wet and intermediate tires. But a lot of the issues is visibility becomes impossible about the same time the wets really enter the neighborhood where they work.
So one of the things they're working on is like a super enter that will work deeper into wetter conditions, but not the same crossover as the current full wets. Yeah, super enter. That would be all right. But if the conditions are, and this is why the amount of rain is important. And so I think, Jono, you were saying that when the rain comes in that area, it's big rain? Is it big old fat rain?
Well, today, actually, I went to the basketball grand final near Albert Park, like five minute driveway started. lightning thunderstorms and it just came whoosh like just get massive rain and it just went within 30 minutes it's not normally like that in melbourne the weird part about melbourne is it's just like light sprinkles
What it looks like on Sunday, it looks like it's going to be heavy rain up until the start of the race. We could even see a delayed start. So you might not need to wake up as early. We'll see. But it could be that situation as well. So you don't actually know. And just one more thing on the weather is it's going to be so hot on Saturday, like I mentioned for qualifying, the hottest part of Sunday for the Grand Prix will be 2 a.m.
It's only going to get cooler for the rest of the day. That's how the temperature change. This might not be the race where we get to understand the pecking order. Because the temperature is going to play such a big factor, we might find out the real pecking order of the grid the week after in China.
Yeah, you always need a real race track to figure out which car is actually the fastest. Because this is a street circuit. We've talked about that. But I'm looking at your predictions. If it is up closer to that 37 degree mark. We will be into the declared heat situation by the FIA, which means that the cooling stuff for the drivers will be mandatory. And that's never been fully done before.
So we could have a really interesting case in qualifying on Saturday that they'll be required to run that extra cooling equipment, which adds five kilograms to the minimum weight of the car. Yeah. Now, that is significant, actually. And I'm just being sort of re-reminded again. We did talk about that of, you know, Russell in those heat conditions. In Singapore. In Singapore. And you go, if we can avoid that, I'll take the extra five kilograms. I don't...
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lingering on the intermediate conditions if we get that downpour drying off down because it's gonna be hot enough to dry off a quick thunderstorm isn't it it's gonna be hot enough that you're gonna get that wet going into slicks And they're the conditions where Lewis Hamilton starts to come into play. They're prime Lewis Hamilton conditions if we do that. The best Lewis Hamilton condition seems to be, I can't put my finger on why, consistent.
middle-of-the-road intermediate conditions, he seems to just not wear his tyres. And, you know, a lot of people maybe overheat those. I don't know what Naki's got there. But if you're going in from the... intermediate conditions into drying conditions and then waiting around for rainstorms, a little bit like we had at Silverstone, then you get into the gambler's territory as well. And you've always got that person who's going to pull the trigger. So could this be the one in three?
George Russell gamble that comes off. Which we've seen before. Yeah, of course. 2010 Jenson Button. Basically, he came in. For anybody who doesn't remember that, too, he came out too early on the softs. Different to what you were talking about, Spanners, but basically it was dry at the time. He came out in the softs, ran off the road.
And then everybody said, oh, well, it's too wet to put dry tires on. And then literally a lap later, he set fastest lap, then another fastest lap. And everyone's like, oh, wait. He just made one mistake and it was actually the right tie to be on. So you never know. And it's going to be, like I said, it's going to be very, very interesting. I'm not kidding. I just refreshed my page and the weather changed. It's now 91% rain for the start of the race.
And so it looks like it's going to rain well into, like if we get a race start and it's not too wet, we're going to have a proper first half of the Grand Prix is going to be intermediates or wets without a red flag for God's sake. Hopefully we don't have that.
I'm excited and I'm really excited too because I have grandstand seats and I want people to boycott and just say, I'm not going today, it's too wet, which means I can lay back and raise my feet and just enjoy it, chuck a poncho on and then we'll be all good. Oh my goodness. Jono outing himself as a cheap seat merchant there. Just buy better seats, bro. Get invited to... I only go when I'm invited to the paddock club, which was that one time.
No, I'm not famous. On a Friday, limited access. You're too famous for that now. Oh, no, sorry. I'm not. So, yeah. Get me in on who you know and then we'll get there. There is potential for it to be a red flag disrupted race then. So that's something we all need to schedule for and be patient for. Have they done anything about the rules where you can just put new tyres on in red flags? No, it's the same.
Yeah, it's a real killer because whatever strategy was playing out, it's gone. So now it's just luck as to whether the red flag comes out at a time that suits your strategy or not. Why not? I don't get it. Why not just neutralise it? There's a small safety argument to go, well, if you're going back out in the wet, you want everyone to have new tyres. I don't know. It punishes people for doing the right things and it's just too random for me.
But then what would you do? Okay, I'll argue with myself. Fine. What would you do if you had the red flag and it was wet and then you started again and it was dry? You can't have everyone go out on wets. Well, I was talking to Chris Stevens about this the other day, Missed Apex podcast member, of course, beloved member. And I basically said to him, well, if you change your tires...
Now, I know this is kind of what you're saying. Anybody who makes a change to their car in red flag, it should be a back of the grid situation. Now, of all 20... Let's say it's wet and then it becomes dry and all 20 need a change. That nullifies the effect of going to the back of the grid because everyone's changed. So we all just stay in the same positions. That's how it should be. Yeah.
I would even go for if you put on the same specification of tire, you can keep it because fundamentally the pit stop is to satisfy the two different tire rule.
that all cars have to satisfy during a race. So if I start on the softs and there's a red flag, I can put on new softs. But if I put on a different, if I put on a different tire, a medium or a hard, then then i have to go and start at the back because fundamentally i'm skipping a pit stop now is it even worth doing predictions for a dry race at this point it doesn't feel like it is
I think we should do predict. Wait, I have an idea. Okay. I have a really good idea. We can do predictions for a dry, cool race, a dry, hot race, a wet, hot race, a wet, cold race. And that way we can literally predict everybody on the grid wins. And somehow, at some point, we'll be right about it. Dry, hot race. That's what we're going for. And my prediction for a dry, hot race is Lando Norris with fire in his belly. Everybody is calling the McLaren.
as being the fastest car. So, out there, 1-2 on pole, is going to not yield to Piastri. He's got to have spent the winter going, Piastri, he smiles, he gets his round in, nice bloke, but... He's a right git on the racetrack and whatever he said, whatever he said in the meeting rooms beforehand, he's going to try and get past me. He's going to block me for all his life is worth. So I've just got to fight him.
So, semi-prediction then. Both McLarens crash out, but my most likely one is Norris wins in the drive. All right. You can't nod. Guys, we've been doing this. I was waiting for Jono to go. I don't do predictions. 12 years we've been doing this. I refuse to do predictions. I don't do predictions. Okay, well, in that case, Jono, what's your predictions for qualifying?
I'll tell you one prediction I'll have, if you want me to make one, is Sauber's going to be last. And I, by the way, can I just point out, Nico Hulkenberg, Gabriel Bortoleto are assigned to that team multi-year. What the hell is going on there? I would be calling my agent tonight and if they don't get me out of that contract, I'll be calling Mark Webber tomorrow to become my agent and get me to a Red Bull or a top team.
That's really interesting. I think you're saying it's a buyer's market, but it's a seller's market or the other way around. So I think both those drivers are probably pretty pleased. to have gotten on the grid at all. So I don't know where Bortoleto was going to go. Hadjar had that Visa Cash App seat wrapped up really early when he accidentally gave it away.
in an F2 press conference. And so that was when we knew that Perez was definitely going to be out for the season. So I don't know where, Antonelli was already, before the start of the season, Antonelli and Behrman.
had their seats so portoletto is probably just happy that he's he's in f1 of course i imagine he's got he must have some backing i'd imagine i know he's f3 and f2 champion first try no no that's great but he'll have brought some backing to get a stake seat i'd imagine everyone would need to And Hulkenberg would be your driver that you would bring in as a steadying factor, as a known entity. Quick question for you. How old is Hulkenberg? 37. 37!
That's properly old. 37 is properly... Apparently he's signed to the team until 40, one report said. So that's great for him. I'd imagine he's picking up a salary and that's a pretty good life. And he's just going to run that out and have a brilliant time. Now, what I said was tongue-in-cheek. Obviously, they're happy to be on the grid and stuff, but like, you know, Jonathan Wheatley was just announced a few hours ago. He's going to start as team principal in like three weeks, but...
My word, what a shambles. They've fired two of their most important guys. Now Wheatley's come on board. Jonathan Wheatley, for context, great guy, Matt. Convinced Michael Massey. for a full season in 2021 to not follow the rules. He must be a very good team principal. I think that's a good pickup for them. I'm buying back in. I'm back into Sauber next year. I'm back into Audi just because of Jonathan Wheatley. No, they're 100% finishing 10th next season.
They are. But if I'm Bortoleto, I don't mind. It's actually probably the best possible place to be as a rookie. on the Formula One grid is the worst team that gets almost no attention anyway. You can just learn your craft and get on with it. Plus with Hulkenberg, if he even runs him reasonably close, if he's within two or three tenths in qualifying.
If he's able to maintain, you know, finish the race within five or ten seconds of Hulkenberg, then he looks like a genius. And that drives his market value up while he's... Well, if he doesn't do well, he can just blame the car and the team, which everybody's already doing anyway. I think it's actually, for Bortoleto, he's got the best.
in terms of ease out of all of the rookies because he's got the least pressure. Hulkenberg's good. I don't think people say he's a genius if he just clings on to Hulkenberg. I think he's got to beat him. I think if you're... f2 champion and you're coming in you're stamping your mark at the back of the grid go beat hulkenberg and everyone will go good job done i think if you don't at least look
ahead of him by the end of the season like you're consistently quicker than him at the end of the season people will go ah what because because holkenberg's a little underrated probably i think people will go ah maybe he should be a bit better than holkenberg by the end of the season
But unless you're Piastri and you get four years to prove your potential. This is my point. He just has to be within shouting distance in the worst car on the grid. And everyone will be like, at least they'll take a second look at him. I mean, obviously, if Logan Sargent said he's done anyway, but... Just got to keep it out of the wall. So what's going on with Jonathan Wheatley? Clearly some residual feelings from Jono there. Get over it.
Get over it loser. It's 2021. That was 18 years ago. Jonathan Wheatley was doing the best for his team and was playing the referee. And I'm sure that Sauber will hope that he does the same for them and fights their corner just as hard. That's why I'm buying into Jonathan Wheatley, because of those radio messages alone to Michael Massey in 2021.
Gaslighted him like I've never heard before in this world. No, no, no, of course. He was stating the rules well and clearly to Michael Massey at the time. Good luck to him. And you know, he starts in a couple of weeks. Just letting you all know, by the way, F1 fans listening to this. guess who's interim team principal? Harry Potter himself, Mattia Bonotto. I thought Bonotto was team principal, so that's confused me. I thought he was going to be the boss. Yeah.
Well, apparently now he's confirmed he's interim and Wheatley's coming in. No, no, no. So I think you might have misread that. No, no. I think it was always planned to be Wheatley. It's just obviously Wheatley's now taking it up earlier because I think he was supposed to come in later in the year.
like towards the end of the season, and they basically said, okay, Mattia, your time's up. You've only got a couple of weeks left, and then Jonathan's taking over. Mattia will then go into more of a technical role, which is what he had at Ferrari and what proved to be so successful when he was at Ferrari too. Yeah, no, I'm fully on board with Wheatley knowing the regulations better than any other team principal. If someone had to argue for me.
with the stewards and with the referees of fact. I would certainly want it to be Jonathan Wheatley because he's proved he's extremely good at it. But the larger issue here...
is all of this movement underlies the uncertainty around Audi's entire project, given the prevailing economic conditions for the car manufacturer. And this is... fundamentally what we're we've seen multiple years of lack or underinvestment in this project so they're now significantly behind they're like williams level behind when williams got sold
And you've seen how long it's taken them to, oh wait, yeah, they're still trying to come back from that. So they're either going to have to be sold to someone a very deep pocketed. buyer, maybe a Chinese manufacturer, BYD or Geely, possibly, or they are going to continue just to be a marketing presence at the back of the grid because it's going to take a huge amount of money.
to catch up and i i'm not sure and i'm not sure what how do you really know what they want to do that was just why i'm sitting here just like going back and forth is because it just the whole thing has been shambolic from early on all right we all agree 10th place in the season. 10th place over the season or the 10th best car is going to be the Snake F1 car. We all seem to agree with that. And they even lost their best livery crown.
Because I don't know what's going on. I don't know. They changed that green. Why? Yeah. They were clear of the rest of the field for best livery last year. It's changed. Anyway, whatever. What about ninth place? Who have we got ninth? I've got a list in front of me and I really upset Meg earlier on the ringer because she's predicting sixth place for Williams and I'm putting them ninth.
What? All right, come on then. Here we go. And this is nothing against Williams. I just think that their mission, do well in 2025, is A, really, really difficult with the resources and facilities they've got. And B, it's not actually their primary ambition. Vowles has risked everything on 2026. I don't think he's going to waste a single second of wind tunnel time or development time that could be going to 2026.
on this 2025 car so even if they start off okay they're not going to develop they are not going to develop this car But it doesn't matter because they're going to score enough points in the first couple of months to get them through the year. So I don't think they're going to be ninth. I don't know how many points ninth place scored last year in the constructors.
And this happened with the Haas. Do you remember Spanners? Like back when Haas began, they kept having a car that was really good to start the year because they basically borrowed a lot of Ferrari products and all that kind of stuff. No, no, that was a characteristic. Then they dropped off. Yeah, for sure. Yeah, 100%. And then...
Their key was how many races could they score good results from to begin the year because you knew that car was going to be very, very bad towards the end of the year because they don't develop it. So I'm with you on that front. But I think the car's too good. Like I genuinely believe. Now, I'm not saying they're going to challenge. to the top four. And do I need to clarify who the top four is anymore? Do F1 fans know that? Okay. So they're the fifth best at the moment.
if anyone's happy to disagree that's you know in my opinion from what i've seen in testing and you think you think williams are fifth best i think from what i've seen they're pretty good you're crazy yeah what okay Have I been looking at different lap times or am I completely off the... What have you guys seen to say that they're not fifth best? Go on, Matt. Where do you put Williams, Matt? All right. So this is interesting.
uh because i'm going to include aston because aston haven't convinced me about anything they're doing this season yet i'll i will give them the first two races and then i'll figure out where they really are testing told us nothing about aston but What I've noted is that of all the other four teams, Haas and Williams are, well, Williams actually has the driver pairing most likely to score double points.
and i think because so much of the bottom half of the field is noise because that because if you can finish 11th every single race in the season to score zero points And if you score, if you finish 10th in the same 24 races, you've scored 24 points. So there's a lot of noise relative to how good the cars are. But I think Williams had given themselves the best chance to advance with their driver pairing.
The question is, have they built a car that will really finish any better than last season? Because remember, they were super quick and qualifying. Yep, they scored 17 points last season. Do you remember how often...
They would come like third in FP1 or something and everyone's like, is the pace real? Is it real this weekend? No, it's the same as all the other weekends. And I think that there is an element of that in testing. I don't think they're trying to do glory runs or anything. I think they just, they run.
Maybe they just run their low fuel qualifying setups more than other people. But I'm starting to doubt myself now because Jono's saying P5, fifth best team. No, no, no. Meg was saying sixth best team. Jono says they're going to win the championship. Okay, well.
I did say that. No, I didn't. No, of course. But look, I'm all about basically knowledge and I don't make predictions because predictions are ridiculous. You just did. I have no idea who's going to be quick. I just made the prediction that Saab was going to be last.
I'm pretty sure. Hands up, we can all agree on that. But from what I've seen, like I said, I looked at testing times. I know testing time is ridiculous to look at, but you can kind of gauge a feel. Like I would not be surprised if Williams scores a points finish in Melbourne. Like, is that ridiculous of me to say? And a points finish in Melbourne means they're a fifth best car, pretty much, or sixth, like around there with the Astons.
Or it's higher. Depends on how many cars finish the race. Can I just put that out there? Of course. Of course. But I'm saying, you know, if let's say we were driving on rails and I wouldn't be surprised if, you know, science managed to sneak a point. Well, I want Jono and Meg to be right. and uh yeah i want me to be i want me to be wrong i i just think they're not going to invest in this year but there's such good vibes coming out of williams you know the carlos signs signing
Valve just seems to be saying everything correctly, even if he's not supposed to. So I've got them ninth. And I actually, I had, because I've got Haas, Williams and Steak as just a clear bottom three in my mind. I think if either of those teams...
jumps out of that significantly that is a miracle season and that is like wow that's a you know like a almost like a championship winning season but i had has a head of Williams, just because I just got a good vibe from Komatsu and they're going in the right direction, Matt. well the thing to consider is if you look at how they did in the 2024 season they spent all of the 2024 testing driving around pounding laps and working on their tire wear
And guess what they did in testing this season? Exactly the same thing. So no, we didn't see a lot of changes to the car, but they don't necessarily have to be. Again, at that end of the grid, if they can improve their tire... wear and usage considerably that's worth a lot more than a whole bunch of brand new aerodynamic parts that only work on some circuits so i put haas
And Williams actually is sort of my favorite teams, Aston being a total question mark. And then I think with Visa and with Alpine, you've got essentially one driver. You've got, you've got real rookies in the other one. And if you look at how Alpine managed to score their six, it was because they had the 2-3 finish in Brazil. And what do they have? Two very experienced drivers.
and conditions that completely negated the engine penalty they're going to be suffering so i i don't put a lot of stock in how alpine are going to do except for i think both drivers will have the upgraded chassis we saw at the end of the season
Clearly, that mattered a lot to them. But the rest of it, as far as I can tell, is just window dressing for a fire sale. Well, Australian Grand Prix then, 4 a.m. uk time i don't think this is one you can't set your alarms for i mean you might even have to set your alarm in the us so i think that's even uh What time is it for you, Matt? I think it's like a midnight start. Midnight for you. So me and Jono... We've already sprung forward, so it's...
So me and Jono will be there. I think Brad will be joining us as well. Be sure to tune in if you're one of the good fans that's setting your alarm and then wants to watch our live stream afterwards. We won't waste too much time. We've just got to wait for Jono to get back. So I think about 8.30. uk time just a bit of news to end on which is cadillac suddenly is sort of active and vocal and they seem to be directly responding to the mist apex episodes where um
Matthew Carter was talking about the deal not being sealed yet, which I think would have surprised a lot of people. I think everyone thought it was a done deal. There seemed to be more agreement in principle. But it's fair. It's down the line enough that...
Graham Loudon, who was the former Marussia team principal, is now in charge of Cadillac, is starting to talk about driver lineups publicly. And it's interesting that he said, well, there's got to be an American, there should be an American presence and a... experienced presence. We're going to have an American so that you feel represented, Matt.
I could look at lots of Formula One teams and say they haven't picked the best person for the job. They picked the person who brought the most money. And I don't expect that Cadillac will be all that much different. All British teams have to have a British driver. that's the new rule seven teams on the grid all have to have a british driver yeah well the last go ahead the last time there was a us team that won to the us driver was anybody remembers usf1
was supposed to be the 13th team of the 2010 grid. Never even made it to the start of the season. They folded due to financial issues. Vaporware. Yeah. Well, Graham Loudon, he's also kind of, I don't know if he's specifically named drivers, but I know like the drivers in contention, you got Colton Hurt. No, he said, he said six, he said the six. Oh, the six. Okay.
Basically, those six were Hertha Perez, Bottas, Mick Schumacher, Sho Guan Yu and Nikita Mazepin. No, no, just kidding. It wasn't Mazepin. You got me for a second. But I could have said that and it would have been believable. Who was... to the sixth though. I never, I missed that one. I don't know. I have to look that up because I didn't see him name the actual drivers. I'm going to Google it right now. It's not that inspiring, that lineup. So I know...
Herter is seen as a talent, but well outside of F1. So it's a sideways move into F1 that we're not accustomed to seeing. Is that fair, Matt? As good as he might be. where he is. Yeah, I think there are IndyCar drivers. There are other IndyCar drivers that people would suggest would be better. Pillow and Pato Award both. I think I would choose.
but i think uh one of them is sort of committed to the mclaren side of things that would be pato and i think below has sort of ruled out formula one altogether uh or you know at least for the foreseeable future so yeah Fast hands, a lot of talent, bit crashy. He might come over and do really well in qualifying and poorly in races. And maybe that's enough for Cadillac. I don't know. I think they're more concerned with.
They're more concerned with getting, what am I trying to say here? American advertising hype. Yeah, maybe, but they just want, they want people who can give them good feedback. So maybe Herta can give them good feedback on the car because they just want to show up and roughly imitate what Haas was able to do.
when they first came on the grid, which is not finished dead last. Okay, but if they're saying an American plus experience, Hertha Perez, as you line up, the grid is not quaking in their boots at that prospect. Can I just point out as well, just to, that Graham Loudon is Joe Guan Yu's manager. So have we just named the lineup that it's going to be Colton Herta? He's going to get his super license, which is going to cost him like 10,000 euro because he's...
not been in the sport. And it's probably going to be Zhou Guan Yu because he's his manager. Is that right? Oh my goodness. And there's marketing potential there. That's like, from a marketing point of view, I suppose you've got China and the US market to attack.
Yeah, I don't think the rest of the grid is going to look at that with anything other than casual awareness. I don't know if that's... But none of the other names on there are going to make anyone quite... Bottas is your standout driver on that list. He's had his run. Yeah. Yeah. So anyway, I'd love to see Cadillac just go in. No, you know, we're shooting for the very top of the grid. That is a grid there. That lineup, it doesn't scream ambition would be my.
my concern so we're all really pleased about a 12th team coming in but if the drivers they're aiming for are a reflection of where they see themselves on the grid what what value then My only counterpoint here is that Frank Williams regularly fired world driver champions in the next season. So maybe they're just planning to build a good car and they just want a safe pair of hands to achieve the average result they estimate.
Well, Frank Williams and Patrick Hare, didn't they call their drivers light bulbs? They could just take one out and put another one in. So for the Australian Grand Prix Race Review, we're going to take Matt out and we're going to screw... Brad, back in. But go and follow Matt at MattPT55 on Blue Sky and X and Jonathan Simmons. Links will all be in the show notes below as well. You can follow me. I'm the best one. And we will see you bright and early.
on sunday morning but until we do see you next work hard be kind and have fun this was missed apex podcast Well done Jono for staying up late. You're very brave. I'm sure you'll say the same for me on Sunday. I'm probably just not gonna sleep. Just roll out of the club and into the shed. Let's stop there.
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