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This episode of ListenBitch contains some very adult themes, very strong language, and some more murderation of mosquitoes. Murderation, you know. Music What time is it? It's ListenBitch time. It's ListenBitch time. How you doing people? It's ListenBitch o'clock. It's ListenBitch o'clock. It's ListenBitch o'clock. You better believe it. We have been talking, me and Lil, about, we think it's time for some merch, and we've decided to start with the sex tool. And also, of course, the wooden spoon.
It's going to be a very simple wooden, very sleek, Scandinavian looking stool, with just Miss Me logo on the top, and then also maybe a wooden spoon. Yeah, for it Miss Me, right? And of course, we're referencing our kink episode from last week, which... The sex tool, some of you may have listened to. You can't stop the sex tool, it's everywhere. Now, of course, we'll be doing phone cases and t-shirts, of course, of course. We're savvy business women, we're looking at real.
Lanyards. Do you know what Lanyards? Lanyards. Do you know what I really want to have, and is this really embarrassing? You know how that tune you put over the Miss Me stool when you posted it, and it's like, it's somebody gonna match my freak. I really want someone to talk about Miss Me in a song. Like, when I was younger, I think so solid crew said my name in a song once, and I was totally gassed.
I was like, 18. I would really like it if someone was like, you'd better listen bitch, like Lili and McKeeza. Or like, you'd better miss me, like Lili and McKeeza. Something like that. Just putting that out to any artist that want to drop that in the song. Who would I like to do that? Drake. J. Hus. Yeah, I'm trying to think how... We have to rhyme something with McKeeza, it would have to be like... Ooh, that's the tricky one. Steeper? Deeper? No, but you have to be like, you know, come on.
Man's got a badge, like Blue Pete. Listen, it's a Miss Me, Lili and McKeeza. Yes! Yes! That's exactly what I'm going to be. Man's got a badge, like Blue Pete. Okay, we are obviously on fire. It's like, time to take some questions. I'm just trying to think about what context man would have a badge, by the way. Why he'd be talking about it in a song? I feel like Dave would have a Blue Pete a badge. Maybe he's just made it. He's just become a detect. Okay, don't hurt yourself, baby.
It was good. Leave it to load. The theme for this week's Listen Bitch is... Ending! Endings! You know, endings don't have to be negative. They can be really important, actually, really positive. And every ending is the start of a new beginning. Every door closes. Another one opens, etc. Can we have the first question? Let's have a question. Hi, Lili and McKeeza. This is Nikki from the Netherlands. I'm a big fan of the podcast related to endings.
I was wondering, do you feel when it's time to go or when it's time to end something? And if so, when do you decide that it's enough? Thank you. Bye-bye. Nice. To the point. To the point. Thank you, God. It's nice to know that you're listening in the Netherlands. I think that's fantastic that Mr. Me has traveled to the Netherlands. I do it a lot in work. Simon Amstel taught me to end things before you think they should end. Like, and his example was always faulty towers.
And he was always like, well, I do think people still like faulty towers. And I was like, why is that? Because there was one series. And I was like, okay. And so I've done it a lot in work things. Leave before you can't stand what you're doing. Or leave before something tells. Usually your gut tells you to end something before you actually want to listen to your gut as much as you can in life. It's usually telling you the right thing. Do you always know when it's time to end things?
No. No. Absolutely not. I'll just take like, you know, partying in my 20s is a good example. Never. Do you know the version of us not knowing how to end things? Buzz. Yeah. Okay. So there used to be this computer game. This interactive music quiz that you could play on the PlayStation back in the day. And you plug it in. It had like consoles with like a buzzer and four colored buttons on it. So there'd be like a quiz round. And you could sit there and you could buzz the answer. It's amazing.
Everyone had their own controller. And for some reason it became the best after party game ever. Probably not. But it was all we wanted to do. So Knights that would have ended it like two, went on to like seven because of buzz. Eleven. You only buzzed like a nice six hour buzz game at the end. It got to the point where like we knew all of the questions in the game.
And so like you don't only have to like have like the first two words of the question that flashed up on the screen and you'd already know the answer. It was more of a race to get there rather than actually answering the question. That was after like year two of Buzzhawking hell. I love that game. If anyone ever wants to doesn't know what to get me for a present is it old Sony PlayStation with the buzz controllers and the buzz game? Oh my god. I'd be very happy with that.
Think about buzz is Lily. I think it would be just as fun. Soba. Do you? Yes. It's Trier. Summer of buzz. Anyway, the three people who were there with us till for buzz like committed buzz people you know who you are. Do you know who they are? I don't know who they are. Literally can't remember. Tom Starich. He was quite funny. Yeah. Passionate about buzz. I think that was it. Actually, I think it was just me. No, no. Kelly Ocarina. But Charlie Crockett. Charlie Crockett maybe.
I play with Kelly Ocarina. I never played with Kelly. Sorry, Kelly. Sorry, Kelly from Broccoli. I'm singing you out. Because of Buzzhead. All right. Next question, please. On endings. Hi, Lily. Hi, my guitar. My name is Isabel. I'm from Switzerland. Anyway, love the podcast. Trying to follow up with all the episodes about endings. I'm thinking of endings of relationships. What's your take on it?
A friend recently told me that for a relationship he had with his previous girlfriend, the last maybe six months of her really bad. So the breakup was actually the end of the relationship. When for me, sometimes the breakup is actually only the beginning of the end and after that, it's not like for my friend a relief. But it's actually the start of month of sadness and rethinking of everything that happened until the actual end.
So yeah, I was wondering what was your point of view on that and the different experience you might have. I'd like her to sing me a lullaby. I'm a lovely sweet voice. Gentle tone. Thank you for that lovely question. The thing is, I've got quite a good spidey sense for being dumped. So I will always try and get in there first. So I'll do something horrendous to control the dumping. If that makes sense. Well, one step ahead of the dump. That's pretty, that is very instinctive.
Although once I was caught off guard, where Leicester, my first proper boyfriend, he went sailing around the world with a friend of his on a boat. And I couldn't get hold of him. And the only way that we could communicate with each other was by satellite phone. But when I would call it, it would cost like 20 pounds a minute or something. It was like absolutely ridiculous. So you're still together, but he was away.
Yeah, but I think in his head, he was like, I just can't face dumping her, so I'm just going to go away. And then I remember like, you know, a few weeks into him having left me calling him on this satellite phone and saying, you know, why haven't you called me? Don't you want to be with me and him just going, no. Oh, Leicester, fuck, that's harsh. And I was like heartbroken because he was my first love. And he'd broken up with me.
But also wanting to carry on this conversation, but also aware that I was being charged about 20 pounds a minute. 20, 20, 20, could have been it to like be completely torn apart from the inside out. Wow, it was really bad on several levels. But he was actually, you know, who was on that boat trip with him was Sam, my future husband, who's now my past husband. But, you know, but you get it the way the world works. Yep, the way the world got.
Yes. Well, that's interesting because, well, I'll tell you even more the way the world works. You're marrying him. I hear my fiance, no. What left? Yeah, oh my god. No, the way the world works is that the lady was talking about how her friend was breaking up with their partner and then they were about to start a month of real sadness. And I remember what that kind of few months after that breakup was like you were at Danny and Judea's, your godparents' house, a few streets from my house.
And you were downstairs in that living room, a lot working on your computer, on your laptop constantly. I was like, what the fuck is she doing? Definitely trying to just drag it out to the pub to get a drunk. But you were working on music. And it was the beginning of everything. So, yes, endings are truly really beginnings. Aren't they? And I wrote my seminal pop hit smile about him. About Lester, so, uh, who won? That little moment. I'd be like, I think I won that round.
I don't know if that round on it live. Yeah. No, Lester's very happy with his girlfriend, Kessler, who's part of our family as well. And who's very happy, so everyone won. Yay! You're the winning, yay! But I like that. Is an ending really just a beginning? Is something for everyone to sit with? Go ahead. Do you want to ask for the next question? Do I? Do I want to ask for it? I think I do, yes. Hi, Lily and Mickey. My name's Robbie. I'm originally from Birmingham. I'm 18 years old.
I'm now actually living in Dobbyshire, in a little town city. I don't actually know what it is. Called Elkistan, because I know you like the backgrounds. My question on endings is actually about like, movies, slash TV series. So have you ever got to the end of a series or anything like that? And then you're like, shit, like it's over now. And I'm not happy with the ending. You just sat there like, well, that's a bit shit. Or like, you've got like an emotional connection with that series.
And now you're like, you know, you're like, shit, it's done like you literally don't know what to do with yourself. So yeah, that's my question. Love the podcast, guys. Robbie. Yes, yes, Robbie. Love that we've got 18 year old boys from Birmingham that now live in Dobbyshire listening to our show. That's fantastic, right? Yeah, I feel like that all the time. I feel a game of Thrones was a big one for me. I've literally felt bereft after it had stopped. Did you find it with watching Alfion?
I didn't know you watched Game of Thrones. No, my brother is such a fantastic actor. I didn't even realise I was watching my brother. Wow. I just absolutely loved that series and thought it was utterly incredible. It's Sopranas. Oh, I mean, so many. So many. So many. Are you emotional after the Sopranas? Damages. Did you ever watch damages with Glenn Close? Yeah. No, she's so good. The West Wing. Oh, I mean, I would give for more West Wing. I just absolutely adored the West Wing.
I get very, very attached to TV shows and I feel very, very sad. But saying that actually houses the dragon, which is the second season of the follow-up to Game of Thrones or the prequel, whatever you want to call it, just started yesterday, but I can't watch it because I'm in Greece. So I'm excited to get back to London to watch House of the Dragon. I just had it recently, which feels really good when you start something that's made now. And you go, oh, that was good enough to make me miss it.
I missed the characters. And it was Queenie, the Queenie adaptation on Jennifer from Candy's Clarity Williams. Very good. Do you like that? Oh, I really liked it. Did you not like it? No. Who do you think you are? I mean, you're shitting all over Queenie. I really loved the book. Well, I didn't, I didn't love the series. See, I didn't finish the book. So I suppose I really liked the series because it completed the story for me. But I just thought it was brilliant casting.
And I guess there was a lot about real London life that I really liked, that they got the music right. To be honest, I don't often like watching adaptations of books that I've read. Oh, I love it. Especially if I've really enjoyed the books. I've always find that they don't quite capture the tone of the book. Hey, we used to love that BBC Narnia adaptation. Yeah, but I didn't read the books. Oh, I watched the films. Neither had I. We loved those. We just watched those.
But yeah, emotional connections to TV shows. I have, that's when you know it's good. I'd like to start something that gives me that again. I can't believe I haven't watched succession. Like one day, for instance, I watched the book. Hey, oh, oh, oh. The newest adaptation you weren't feeling. Didn't love it. Oh, no, I thought that was brilliant. I, that's my true answer. I was devastated when that ended. Loved that. I mean, why do you think I loved that? It was like a walk through history.
I think you loved it because of that Leo actor. He's totally fit. Yeah, that was good. But he's also very good. I wouldn't have fancied him if he wasn't good. He was very good. And he's from West London, so I felt an affiliation with him. Yeah, yeah. So he liked one of my posts on Instagram. Shut up. I'm very excited. Yeah. Shut up. Shut up to Leo Woodle. He's from Hammersmith. Isn't it funny when you know boys are from Hammersmith? That's like, I was born. Come on, Queen Charlotte's gang.
Leo Woodle, please get in touch and let us know if you're a Queen Charlotte gang. He's like 10 years younger than us. Let's move on. This is no longer about ending. I actually think that hospital had closed by the time Leo Woodle was born. Exactly. Another, there you go. Well done. We landed on an ending. The ending of Queen Charlotte's hospital. Just bring it back. We'll be back with more questions about endings after this very, very short break. It's not an end. It's just a break.
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Visit acorn.tv for a 30-day free trial with promo code BBC24. Acorn TV. Brilliant. Welcome back. Can we have another question about endings? Please? Could we? Please? Hi ladies. It's Daisy from Raw Essex here, down the countryside. So I had a difficult relationship with my mum who sadly passed just come up to four years ago. She died suddenly while she was on holiday. So yeah, it was a bit of a shock. And before she went away, we had a bit of a petty argument.
And so her last interaction wasn't a very pleasant one. So I have... Although I don't feel guilty about it, I have full of sadness and regret over that. And I feel sad that we never got the opportunity to like resolve our differences. And so I'm just wondering if you've had any relationships or friendships and that you feel sad about and or you have any regret about. And perhaps that you... If you had the chance, could go back and do things differently. Thank you Daisy.
That's such an awful loss for you. And I'm so sorry that happened to you. And I completely understand how one can sit in those feelings. You said that you didn't feel guilt. So important. But I think about this a lot, which is why my nanny lives with my parents now. And every time I leave the house without no shadow of a doubt, I have to give my nanny a proper hug and a kiss on her cheek. I'm very aware that we lose people and things end abruptly and out of nowhere.
That's why I'm always hugging you, and kissing you. I just feel like hold onto the people you love. I'm always thinking about that. So I really try to have no bad beef with the people in my life that I love. It's what? It's what... And me. Yeah, I mean, I have quite complicated relationships with some of my family members. And I do sometimes think... If they die, that would be quite sad. Yeah. Have them... Those things unresolved. But, you know, I'm quite stubborn.
So... Um... It's a tricky one, isn't it? I mean, there are relationships in the past that have ended abruptly that sometimes I wish I could go back and change. But in having done a lot of work on myself in the last few years, I have, like, you know, gone back and apologise or let those people know that I'm sorry for the way that I behaved in the past. And... Yeah, I've... And some of those relationships have, you know, recovered and are now, you know, in a good place. Some of them haven't.
But... Yeah, I mean, I think... I think talking is always... is always a good thing. I feel like me and you have done quite a lot of that, um, going back to things that were possibly soured. And actually, we were talking about it when you were talking about a certain friend of yours that you kind of just didn't want around as much or didn't feel the need to have in your life. And you thought about it and you thought about how you were going to explain that to him and why.
Like, I just think that we're in a different place in our lives where it kind of makes me personally feel uncomfortable if I have all this, like, bad blood with anyone that I love. You know, we had quite a lot of difficulties in our family last summer. And it was really, it really rocked me. It really rocked me and I did feel a real element of life is too short for this.
Yes. But at the same time, either because there are some relationships that I feel like in order for them to be resolved, I have to, like, surrender. And I'm just not really willing to do that. Not all the time. Not all the time is it our role to do that. No, I think I'm pretty fair. And I think I'm pretty, like, good. And I have quite healthy attitudes in most of my relationships. There are a couple that are a little bit, like, contentious.
And in order to, like, resolve them, it would have to be me that has to do all of the work. And I'm just not willing to do it. No. Like, fuck it. No. And that's what my own shit to think about. That's right. Let's have another question. Endings is being, is, um, surprising me. Quite enjoying it, actually. The Hi-Mikita is Chris from Chesher. I was just wondering what would be your favourite ending to wrap up your career artistically in the future. Thank you.
Love you. Thanks, Chris. Oh, God. This is my, um, greatest fear. Like, is this a question about legacy? Or, like, your final act of work? I don't know. I mean, he's asking how you would, like, end your career. I mean, I've ended my career a few times. I thought I'd do it. Let me do it. I don't know. I feel like, I feel like you don't. I feel like, you know, I don't even really know what my career is, like, quite frankly. I just like to express myself.
And so, and I tend to do it in quite a public way. And people, you know, allow me to do it and give me a platform in which to express myself freely. And I'm very lucky to be in that position. So, yeah, hopefully that will never end. And if it does, then, um, I'll be moaning about it somewhere. You know, some slightly smaller platform. Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha. I'm just like more into having someone else. And it's finding more intense space. Okay, my, I'm so embarrassed.
This is so cheesy. I have to tell the truth. I love broadcasting so much that I, they will have to drag me out of this industry. In my 80s, 90s even, I'd like to be like, Attenborough actually keep going. I would like to drop dead on the TV set. Wow, that's how much I love my job. I'm not even joking. That's how much I love my job and what I do. And I'm very lucky to do something that I love so much. And to have, for it to have found me. I feel like it's my duty to what I do because it found me.
I didn't go looking for it. So, it was like a really beautiful gift at a very early part of my life. And I feel that I disrespect and not take this all the way to the end. Yet me. Yeah. But on a real, I would like at the end of my career to be a very powerful force in broadcasting and production and presenting. That's just what I want. So, yes. She wants to be on the Arts Council. Yeah, but a bit of Arts Council, a bit of Oakbrook. Did you take a MBE or a... That's a difficult question.
Yeah, but you would wouldn't. I would. I would. Yeah, and then half me. In a half me. But I know. Then it's problematic. And I'm very... Love the bit of establishment recognition. This one. Hey, Chau! Chau! Okay. So, I'd like to end my days in the palace. Would you prefer to be MBEed by Charles or William, when it inevitably happens? Yeah, Charles. I'd William would feel... I feel like if William gave it to me, I'd feel a bit like MTV MBE or something. I needed to be like real.
Historical, old-school, Charles. Yes, Charles. So, you would like Charles to give it to you, not William to give it to you? I mean, I don't want to write anything in stone, guys. I'm easy. But yeah, I'd love it in Charles. Give it to you, Charles. Anyway, can we also just quickly, sorry, not strengthen that? But what MBE is? There's OBE, order of the British Empire, member of the British Empire. Member of the British Empire. And then you can be knighted as well, so you can be adamed.
See, I think I want that one. I'm not the word empire. I find very difficult. So, I'll just be a knight. Can I be knighted? Or D? Yeah, I think you have to get the other two first. I don't think you can just go straight, D. Oh, you can't just go straight to D. I thought that there was an order of... I thought there was an order of D. I don't have to do MBE. I thought there was a bloody proper way of doing things. I'm looking for... No, 100% I'm looking for my knighthood now.
Because I never want to be a queen. I'd rather be a king. So, I'd like to be a knight, not a D. All right, T, can we have the last question for today's listen, bitch? Okay, Lily's on holiday. I've got a beach to get to. Listen, bitch. Listen, bitch. Hey, Lily, hey, Makita. It's Harriet again from Southeast London. Sorry, I had to call it and after I heard your topic about endings. I automatically thought about the duff duffs on EastEnders, the dramatic endings of a soap opera.
So, I remember back in the day, you'd have film itchle, flushing, Ian Beale's head down a toilet. That was one of the dramatic endings. I also had a dramatic ending to my day. On Friday, I actually got hits off my bike and I managed to break two bones in my rights risks. I'm not having a great week this week, but that was a dramatic ending to my week last week. So, my question for you guys is, have you ever had an ending to any aspect of your life that was worthy of a EastEnders duff duff?
Duh-duh-duh-duh. You know that when I was young, I created what the EastEnders theme tune became before it even was. So, when it used to come on, it was just used to be kind of piano and then I added drums. I'd be like, one week, they were just there. I'm not joking. I'm not joking. No, you created that in your head. That did not happen. Ask my mom. She was there, ask my nan, she was there. Your mum, that reliable soul from the 90s. From the 90s memories.
Something where I think dramatic enough for a dint, dint, dint, dint. I can think of some, but they're not, we can't mention them on the podcast. Come on, how about an ending B? Oh, it was a bad ending. I'm just, yeah, I'm not even gonna say, because it's gonna take us to a place where we don't want to go. This does involve me, doesn't it? Well, I'm just trying to think of one that does involve you, because I feel like you threw me under the bus slightly with my Japan escapade.
So I was just thinking, maybe I could throw you under the bus, but you know what, I'm not gonna do it, because I'm just not that kind of friend. Well, see, the thing is, the ending I have would throw both of us under the bus, and it was East Enders-y. Right. But I don't want to take you, I don't want to throw you under the bus. In the same way. Again. I'm really sorry, that's not very listen-mitch of us, but I just, I got, yeah, little bit careful, just a little bit.
Yeah, because we might end up with like daily male articles with the headline is Lily Allen, the most toxic friend and show business again. Can you imagine if, do you know what's something that awful? It was about me being a bad friend, actually. You know what, I'll see it, and I just want to say what you did. It's something happened in Lily's life that I felt the need to tell the... I was just gonna be my wife, I was gonna say this. Yeah, it wasn't me, Stenders-ing, it was me.
It was like, did you? It was. Did you tell Blabla that, did it, and I was like, yeah? Dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun. Ha, ha, ha, ha. It was like that, it was like that, it was like that. And you know what, we get into details, but this one we're just not going to. Okay? Yeah, absolutely. Not a good idea. Not a good idea. Not a good idea. Not a good idea. Not a good idea. But everyone that was involved, I'm sure you know who you are.
I really think we should stop talking now. Do you think that we need to end this? Yeah, you need to see your naughty little mix. I think we need to end this. I'm picking the next theme. Thank God I had to wait for like Billy, I-N-H, then Lily, I-N-H. Finally, it's my time. It's Summer, the Suns Out. You would know if you'd been in this country how important the Sun is this week. The theme for this week's Listen Bitch is... Raven! Raven. Raven. What? Ah, she can laugh.
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