This is the BBC by BBC Sounds. Music, Radio, Podcasts. This week's Listen Bitch contains very strong language and adult themes. But don't worry, we're going to have a good time. Okay, hello people! Good morning! Welcome to this week's Listen Bitch! Hi Keats! How's it going Keats? Pretty good. Yeah, what's up? I love you. I think you're so great. I'm just kidding. I'm just thinking you're really, really great. An example of a quite an
outwardly beg friend which is today's Listen Bitch theme. You heard me the theme is beg friend or beg friend's. beg friend. It can be just an energy. beggy, beg beg friends. Yeah, yeah. Now I don't want to sit here and give you the history of the beg friend. I don't want to start getting out of the dictionary. I don't think we have to explain it to people. They just know. People know what a beg friend is. I'm going to sit here and tell you. We're just going to get our first question.
Hi Lily, and this is Paul coming to you from surprisingly Sunday Glasgow today. And my question is in relation to beg friend energy. So this isn't a phrase I've really sort of heard of before, but I think I sort of get the concept of it. But I was just curious. Is there any sort of like key indicators or behaviors you can look out for in terms
of known someone's given beg friend vibes? Yeah. And if so, have you got any good examples of this from your sort of personal experiences with love to hear? Oh my god. Great. I love a Scottish accent saying beg friend energy. It's good. Big friend energy. It's not really something that I've ever heard of. I was the Scottish person in the podcast. I wish I could do a Scottish accent like I just got. No. Can't have it all babes. Anyway, yes. Oh, absolutely. Clues. Clues to the beg friend
energy. And you're right. Exactly. It's an energy. I mean, I think it exists in a really different way now. The internet has played a big part in how people kind of pervade their big friend energy now. It's kind of a latching on jumping on to shit. You can smell it a mile off. I'll tell you a good indicator of it is, you know, when you like contact someone or someone contacts you and then you don't respond to that thing. And then like a couple
of days later, they'll send you messages. They're like, just following up on this. It's like, no, I know that's why I ignored you. And when you keep following up, that's the begging, begging, begging, begging. Or like in the old days, like when a friend's like, what are you guys up to tonight and you sort of like don't want them to come and you don't really tell them, but then they're there when you get there. That's begging it. Just begging
it. Oh, that is, yeah, I think I've done that sometimes. Oh, hey guys, where's the party? Oh my God. So we're seeing you here. I don't believe you're going to be here. That's why I'm here. And the reason we can dissect the big friend energies because we've both been beg friends, but I don't do that anymore. Really? No, what's the fucking point? Who the fuck would I beg for now at the age of 40 years old? I would beg for an TaliExe X. Yes. I have been bread-froending TaliExe X. I'm a beg
friend. That's okay. So it's Kamala Harris. It's absolutely fine. It's quite, quite high-tiered in the beg friend energy. You and Kamala. So I hope that's explained it, darling. And now you'll get it. Let's get into this. Next question, please. Hi, Makita. Hi, Lily. I love the podcast and I love you both too. Now, I have a drag esk name for the beggy breed, which I refer to as beggy Mitchell. Is there someone in the past who's been dismissive of you and the way that you felt? And then at a later
point has turned into the ultimate beggy Mitchell. And how did you tell them to get out of your pub? I feel really bad bringing these people out. You go first. No, I haven't got one. I mean, I know that they're in there, but I just have to think of them. So you go first and then hopefully I'll pop into my little, Danny brain. I mean, I would say everyone went between 2000 and sort of 10 to 2020, who dropped me. Apart from you. You never
did. I never dropped you. I lost a lot of people. I think a lot of people lost a lot of respect for me for a long time. I lost a lot of respect for myself and I wasn't living right and I kept kind of like, let's say I had a lot of beg friends, which I did. They, I wouldn't call them big friends. I called them people I kept around and allowed the begging. And then they were the first crowd to go when I sort of went bankrupt and things and things were
sort of publicly bad. And then I started to lose real people like Simon Armstrong, one time said to me, like, I'm not going to keep saying I'm going to come meet you if you're not going to turn up. So that was like a difference, you know, and like your life kind of fucks up and you kind of go, I don't really care about those people. Oh, shit. I'm losing people I care about. And then in the last five years, I'd say maybe 70%
of those people have gotten touched. And I have no time for them. So yeah, I cannot name names in this instance. I wouldn't want to. There's so many. There is actually so many. You know that two years ago, seven, seven ex-boyfriends got in touch with me through different forms of communication. Someone Instagram, something like long emails, someone like just text. It was really quite strange all in one year. So strange. Told them what to go fuck
themselves. I did it. I was very kind. There was one person that I fell out with quite monumentally just after the sort of she's a Sarah. We were working together. But we were also close friends and then sort of coincided with the breakdown of my marriage. And then yeah, that person was quite happy to sort of like sit and point the finger at me and like watch my demise and point and laugh about, you know, what sort of stacked down with
spiral that I was on. And then recently, since this podcast has been going quite well, I've heard from several people that they have been, you know, asking how's Lily. I really miss her. I'd be really great if we could get back in touch again. And I really regret what happened, all that kind of stuff. What do you feel about it? I mean, they haven't like been begging to me. But I do, I also just like the way that that person's gone about
it is I'm just not into it. I don't need it. I'm really happy. I've got a great life. I've got great friends. I don't need, I don't need that energy. It's nice to be on the other side of big friendiness, isn't it? Like see it, notice it, move on. Like it's just the baitness of the big friend is true. It's real. I only asked for the next question. Can we have another question, please? Hi, Lily and Makita. It's Kat from Ken. My question this week is about big friends. I was
wondering if you've ever had any famous big friends. Maybe if they've been jealous of your level of fame or if they've just wanted to get to you to bring you down or if they've just wanted to get more fame out of you. Yeah, I was wondering if you've ever had any kind of surprise big friends who are actually famous. So you were surprised they were jealous of you. Thanks. Yeah, James Corden was a bit of a big friend for me.
He came on James Corden, came on my chat show and was like very flirtatious with me and we sort of made friends and I introduced him to a group of my friends. And I don't really remember it because that whole period of time is a bit hazy, but I believe that he wrote about it in his book that, you know, that I was like leading him on or something, which
I definitely wasn't. No, we hung out with him for like a week. I think in his mind, maybe it went on a bit longer, but yeah, I'd say if I've ever had a famous big friend, it was James Corden back in the day. He's not begging me anymore. I'm not begging him either. But yeah, exactly. Exactly. It's now mutual non-bag, which has said adult place that everyone's arrived at. I can't do anything for him now. He's good. And he knows it. So he's not
sniffing around here. Can we have another question, please? Hi, Makita and Lily. I'm Ella. I'm from Boston, the original Boston in Lincolnshire. I love in the podcast. Thank you very much for this. It's like a public service. Beggie friends. So my question is, as a celebrity, do you find it strange when people that you don't know, fans, followers send you direct messages on Instagram? Because I have done this at times and felt like I am a beg front.
So, yeah, message me back. I don't think it's beggie at all, actually. I really, really like it. And I don't reply to all of them because I get quite a lot. So if you've ever written messages to me and I haven't responded, it's not because I think that you're beggie at all. It's just because I also have really bad HD and as soon as something else happens, I'm distracted and I forget to respond to everything. But I don't know about you, Makita,
but I do what I do because I like to bring people together. I do it with my music and I do it with this podcast and I did it with my book. I really get a lot of shit from people and from mainstream media outlets for sharing my views in such an open way. And it's really, really nice when people get in touch and tell me that things resonate with them and that they have been affected by the things that we've spoken about or something that I've written
about. So no, I absolutely do not think that it is remotely beggie at all. In fact, I really like it. And it actually really keeps me going because I see so much negativity and the positivity really helps. So if you're ever considering sending me nice messages of support or just that something resonated with you, then go ahead, send me more. I love it. I totally agree. But everything that people say, particularly about Miss Me, I just
think is so lovely. Not beggie at all, just feeling the shit we're talking about, which means a lot. Would you think if you DM someone on Instagram that you were interested in, like, romantically, that would be beg friendly? No, I think that would be like common sense. It's just connecting with somebody that you're interested in. Okay. I'll think about it. I think if you did it and then they didn't respond and then you thought kept following
up, then it would might be turning into beggy. But no, I think the first time. Do you know what I know how to do? Take a hint. I'm really good at taking a hint. You know, like end of parties and like people want you to leave a house or something. I can't quite believe how much people don't understand that energy sometimes. Like obviously I want you to get the fuck out of it. I don't know that you're necessarily that good at taking
that hint because you've been in my living room after you've died. No, but you're a little bit too long. You're family. I'll say what I'm leaving you're fucking you are. I'm leaving you are like other people. Please, I'm not a guest. Tell me when to leave. What? I'm asking. I wait for Auntie Allison to kick me out. Okay. No. Three in the ordinary. I'm saying love you. I love you. I love you. I love you. Let's move on. Let's move on. Let's
have another question for this week's Listen Bitch. The theme is beggy friend. Like beggy friend. Hey, Lily and McEuter. It's Barney from Tottenham here. Lily, you have a song on your album, Sheezer, it's called Incent really Yours, where you sing about these parties that you'd attend and you'd be photographed mingling and chatting with other celebrity guests. And you kind of spilt the tea that everyone has paid to attend these parties and
these celebrities that you're mingling with. You don't actually know. You don't really care to know them or care what they're saying. So my question is, who is the most random celebrity that you've been photographed with at an event? Maybe it was a party, a fashion show. And what was that conversation like? Like what are you talking about when you're photographed with them? Thanks, you too. Well, I don't know. I want to see you because you don't know
me, but um, bye. Barney, maybe I'll see you in Tottenham. If I see you say yes, yes. Um, I love that question. One thing I do hate, sorry, this is maybe a little unrelated talk because we don't all go to fashion shows, but the chat on a roll out of fashion show is difficult. And it's like, it's worse than a wedding because it's like you're everyone can see you and you're next to someone like usually incredibly famous and incredibly
intimidating. And you got to make, it's not even small talks, like a different frequency of small talk. It's actually one of my worst things in the world. I hate it so much. I have to also, there's this thing that happens when you go to those events where basically there's like, you know, sort of these top tier, like celebrity, like social photographers. There's one called Richard Young, there's another one called Dave Bennett. There's a few
of them that you sort of burn it so that you sort of recognise. And what they will do is they will obviously a photo of like two celebrities is more valuable than a photo of one celebrity. So they quite often will walk up to you and they'll be like, Lily, can you have a photo with so and so and you're like, and I always have the fear because I'm always like, no one wants to be associated with me. So I think they're wanting to say,
no, so I kind of like do this like weird like, oh, no, that's sort of thing. Not wanting to have their photograph with you. Of course not. Yeah, because I don't know. I feel like people might not want to be like in the newspapers with me. Who was that there was a really weird one quite recently that I was like one of the real housewife, like one of the real legend. Oh, I know who it was. The mom of the, yeah, the Serrino. Release of Rina. Yes,
Lisa Rina. Yes. Yes. Suddenly like at all like cajoshos. Yes. So Dave Bennett was like, Lily, can you have a photo with Lisa and I was like, she doesn't know. I don't really know she. Well, that's good. And she won't have any pre-judgment. She'll just be like, sure it. And let's do it. That is exactly what she did. She's a professional. She did have had
no time for my nonsense. But yeah, I'd like to talk about a relationship of the past that hasn't come up and missed me unbelievably, which is your relationship with Lindsay Lohan. Oh, yeah, which was from, I will say yes to you. I will say it again, because I don't know any other way to describe that period of time. It was a long time ago. To be fair, we know Mark Ronson. Mark Ronson's sister Samantha Ronson started going out with Lindsay
Lohan. It's not that you've seeked. You did not beg for a Lindsay Lohan. She was never Lindsay, just Lindsay to me. We didn't get that far. Lindsay. And I would like to know, I've never asked this. You sort of basically chaoticly running around the world for about a year, maybe six months. Not with Lindsay Lohan. Yeah. Quite a few. No, I'd spent a lot of time in L.A. Whenever I go to L.A. I would hang out with her. That was it. And then
maybe you were in Dubai at something together as well. Yeah, I think so maybe. But there was one night where we'd been partying and I was staying at the Chateau Marmont Hotel, for people that don't know what that is. It's like a sort of legendary Hollywood hotel where lots of watched things have happened. Anyway, I had this sort of fancy room. She basically lived at that hotel on and off for a long time. But she wasn't at this time
living there. But I was staying there. And my managers had stationed my security outside my room because they knew how much of a terrorist I was in terms of just like going out and partying for until the early hours of the morning. And I had to be up the next morning to be on this something surgery with like Dr. Drew, I think his name was. Anyway, it was like a radio show. But it was an early record. So it was like we had to get up and do her
and make up at six o'clock in the morning or whatever. But Lindsay knew her way around the hotel. Lindsay climbed over the back wall of the hotel into my garden where my room was. And she was like, come on, let's go out this way. So we escaped through the back and jumped over the wall. And then went to the Shamrock Tatoo parlor on sunset boulevard
and got matching friendship tattoos. That both said shh. And I thought it was quite cool for about seven hours until I woke up the next morning and saw on Perez Hilton, the headline Lily and Lindsay copy Rihanna. Oh no, I like this. Couldn't be any worse. That's literally the biggest thing that I've ever done in my life. Gone with Lindsay Lohan to beg friend Rihanna by getting copy tattoos. I've got the picture here. Jesus
Christ looks like a different time. It was a different time. But anyway, Lindsay and I, it was quite fraught for a bit between the two of us. I can't really remember why. Maybe because I was close to Samantha and things got a bit heated between them too. But now things are really nice. She texts me, you know, sort of intermittently when she's around in New York. She's back now. She's back on Netflix. She's producing stuff. She's
very supportive on social media. She always likes my pictures and comments and things. I love lens. And why do you think that Lindsay Lohan and I share such deep personality traits? Because I've never actually met her. I didn't even ever interview her. But you were like, she's you, you're her. And I just like to know what you mean by that. Because do you mean her just like sweet personality or chaotic, crazy energy? It's a chaotic, crazy energy. It's
like very much a nighttime thing. It was like, you know, when you're a little bit exasperated and a little bit had enough. And, and basically I, I have nothing to offer you anymore. So there's a lot of like, I rolling that kind of. Oh my god. That you Lindsay shared that. Oh my god. I get it now. Okay, move on. I get it. When I'm like, should we go? I've ordered a cab. We're going to go to the restaurant. So and so. Yeah. I don't want to do that. Wow. I get it. Oh my god. I can't
believe someone else was this. It's that so deeply. Okay. Yeah. And kind of husky voice, right? That'll do. And a bit ginger. Yeah. I'm beautiful. Very beautiful. Absolutely. Thank you. I think it's time for a break. Break. Let's have a break. Okay. Did you know one and two women were the wrong foundation? Magic foundation is hard, but Ilmakiage makes it easy. Take the power match quiz to find a better match in seconds customized for your unique skin tone, undertone and coverage needs.
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Oh, and that was a nice break. Yeah, here we are. Back in the show. Back in the room. Okay. Let's see where we go next. Hi, gals. It is Jen here from Lester. My question to you is what is your most embarrassing, cringes memory of being a beggy friend? I can honestly say I've been there. I thought that everyone has and if they haven't, they're lying. Whether that's to seek validation or just to fit in or whatever. Absolutely obsessed with the podcast. Please do let us know. Love you.
Oh, God. Yeah, let's hear it from you, Mickey, to Oliver. One thing I would like to say is I really can't stand a beg crowd, which is people that move in a crowd to be more powerful, even if they don't have any interest or like for each other, but they know that it's more powerful to be in this bullshit gang. Oh, wow. I know exactly who you're talking about. Really can't stand that energy. I'm personally in the lone wolf, but I have a lone wolf, Mickey, to
I think that myself is sort of a roving wolf. No, but I have been, as I've said in previous episodes, I was not more obsessed with popularity when we were little. I mean little because I mean, sort of like 11, 12, 13, it was very important to me to be talking to the right people. 36. I was just like, two years ago. No, um, and no, I really let that go with my mid-day. Okay, I'm just joking. And we all have crews or crowds that we
so as want to be part of, but I was just a lot more bait about it. And Phoebe and Lily just weren't, or maybe the crowds they were trying to be part of weren't so sort of kind of uptight or boundrified to get into. I don't know, but I definitely felt better constantly about my plans as it were. Um, but the most biggie friend, I think we'll just go with um, Lily and Linsy Lohan. But when Lily was at her most beg. No, I was not. Just the reanna bit of it was the beggie bit.
Oh right, that's what I wanted to ask. In that friendship, did it feel like anyone was begging anyone? Was Linsy begging you? Were you begging her? Or were you just aligned? No, we're just sort of ended up together. I don't think there was any begging us to be honest. Spiritually, I'm not a beg friend. Neither are you, Lill. And I think if spiritually or not and you're meant to be not begging, then you will just kind of notice it quickly and stop and it'll just become something
you did once. I think if I've ever been begging, it's usually related to drugs and acquiring them. I remember once being in, I think it was Brazil and I was on a festival with the Banca Sabian. And I knew that they were like partying in their hotel room. They don't take drugs, Lily. I'm not insinuating that they do. But I remember there was like, you know, there was a party back at their room and I remember heading to the room and then knocking on the door and then clearly knowing
that I was on the other side of it and then not letting me in. Oh no! Yeah, yeah. I was such a nightmare in those days. Like, blank, not even blank, like, colded out by Cassabian. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, because I was begging. I was being a beg friend. Exactly. begging doesn't get you what you want
in all parts of life. And once got in a fight with someone famous at a festival in Australia and my, I got to know the Cassabian boys quite well over the course of a few summers because we were always releasing albums at the same time so we'd be on the same schedules at festivals and stuff. And my trailer was next to theirs and there's other persons trailer was on the other side and I got in a fight with this other person and like went into their trailer and like started kicking off and
the Cassabian boys had to like come in and drag me out. It was sort of to protect you from yourself. Literally picked me up off of the floor like kicking and screaming. I was like, I'm a fucking girl. I'm a fucking girl. Oh, I know. Okay. Oh, very drunk. But that's nice of Sergin Tom to be like, she needs help. You're all right. You're all right. You're gonna go well. You know what I mean, nice, four nice, lester boys can get you. Can we have another question please?
Highly hi, Makita. Long time no first time caller. I wanted to ask this question because I actually don't have that much sympathy for beg friend culture. Do you know what I mean? I actually don't have a lot of time for those that love to beg friend. Nevertheless, there are times when you're like texting everyone what you're doing on Friday, what you're doing on Friday and you sense that there's a bit of a dinner party situation happening that you don't have the invite for.
Is it ever okay to you think to sort of beg friend your way onto the guest list and say, please can I actually come to that? I hear this is happening. Or do you think that you just have to play it cool except that there's not room for everyone at every dinner table and hope that you'll be invited next time. Yeah, what degree of a social faux pas do you think that is? Okay. Do you think it's ever all right to beg friend your way? No, because if you beg,
guess what you get? Breadcrumbs. If you turn the other way, you'll get a loaf of bread. Wow, the ancient proverb. If you beg, you get breadcrumbs. Seriously, that is the all I have to say on it. In anything, work, social stuff, relationship stuff, anything, any relationship in your life, don't beg because you will only receive breadcrumbs. You want to be a bakery. Look the other way and go down the street and find a bakery. Yeah, I mean, maybe the thing is there's definitely been things
that I haven't been invited to that I've plagued my way into. I don't think that I've definitely necessarily begged. I've pretended to be somebody else and got in. That's worked for me. I've had some good nights at places that I wasn't supposed to be. That's true. That's very true. Actually, you have to just change the energy. You're not a beg friend. You're a hustler. A hustler. You're a hustler. So you're just crashing because you are hustler. You know some beg friend.
That's all you got to do. Change the language and the approach and your name. Reframe. It's a reframe. It's a reframe. It's a complete reframe. Oh my God. Me and Emily Ann Sonnet once had a night at the spot of pig in New York City where Jay Z turned up and I was definitely, that was probably my most beggy I've ever been in my entire life. Yeah, but come on. This is another subject. Who is it? Okay, DeVeg, friend. I think it's okay to beg for a change. He really wasn't having it.
He could see through my beggyness and he was really, really wanting to be chatty with Emily and it drove me absolutely fucking insane. I was like, I've just done SNL, but he was really, I think he'd just done something with Amy Winehouse. He was like very much, you know, into her and the music and I was like the other British one that wasn't really very interesting. And I do know this story. Guess who tells this story a lot? Emily Ann Sonnet. There's a picture somewhere. There's a picture of me.
Jay Z, Emily, I think Samantha Ronson and a bunch of other people, but yeah, I remember like it was just at the time that umbrella came out and I remember being like really drunk and high and like singing umbrella but like replacing the words with something else and just being just generally the most embarrassing person you've ever met in your entire life and I liked, I would like to write it out of my personal history but instead I'm going to share it for the sake
of this show. You're incredible. Okay, do you want to ask for the penultimate question? Darling. Can we have the penultimate question? Please. Beautiful. Hi Lily and the Kita. This is Charlie here from South Evan. I unfortunately have been going through cancer treatment for the last seven months or so, breast cancer. And it's been an interesting one from a friend's perspective
because all sorts of people have come out of the woodwork and it's lovely. It's really, really nice and it's really great to get support and well wishes and everything but within the kind of cancer community I guess you would say there is this phenomenon around grief tourists and yeah
there's definitely been some people in my life who want particularly good friends who have come out to seemingly support me but there could also be a thought around that maybe they are trying to align themselves with me and everything that I'm going with to show that they are being supportive
I guess but yeah sometimes it doesn't necessarily seem that genuine. So my question to you guys is have you been through anything in your life where people have suddenly started showing up under the potents of helping you or being there or caring for you and wanting to be friends with you but potentially it's actually not necessarily genuine. Yes you have. Oh God Jesus. Yes you have.
There are certain people in my life that are when things are going well they're just absolutely nowhere to be seen and then when things are not going well suddenly they're there and it doesn't even really feel like they're there to help it's like they're there to witness like it makes them
feel better to see me struggling and that is quite painful. I also really understand that that sort of like chief chief grief officer mentality as well I've seen it like my ex-husband's brother died last year and his mum died a couple of years before that and there's been a lot of death in that side of the family you know Sam's other brother died many many years ago and there are yeah certain sort of characters that really relish in the chief grief position. When you lost
George did you feel like that happened? Do you feel like people just ran away? I think that I switched off I disconnected so much that I didn't get it because I like to switch my phone off and lock myself in the room and cry for about a year but I always find that when people are struggling through things what what people actually want is a bit of humour and they don't really need the
you know little tiny violins. You know like my friend recently had breast cancer and she had to have mastectomy and she really appreciated it when I called her up and I just said well you know your tits weren't great anyway. She would just like you know what I mean she she she was like thank God somebody's like yes joking with me about it like I'm so used to everyone being like oh poor you yeah bro it's nice but it's also nice when someone you know approaches it differently but I
mean my ex-husband's sister-in-law her husband died at the you know the back end of last summer and when she come down to the countryside when I lived in Gloucestershire she would there was this big black Chanel cloak that I had and she'd always wear it when we went out on these country walks
and actually she's a writer and she wrote an article about you know her attachment to this cloak and so when Barney died I actually got the coat out of storage and when I came to the funeral I had it in the boot of my car and she had like a couple of minutes and I'd bought her out to the car
and I just said you know I think this is really going to help you in your widow era. Yeah but that is exactly exactly what she would have needed exactly what she wanted and she wore the fuck out of that cloak she's she's wearing that Chanel cloak like yeah it's definitely her widow cloak she's a
Scottish widow yeah quite you're quite good in those kind of situated like if I felt like I know actually when I've been really going through something you don't come to spectate you come to help I haven't really got time for like all of those sort of like heirs and graces like you know there
are people that I care about and that I want to support and I try and think about the best way that I can support them and it doesn't very often I'm not really like entertaining the sort of sitting around and and being sad I've been there myself it doesn't help I think that like you know action
and humor it's about energising and humor exactly yeah and also truth we're not here that long we're not here for long on this earth so we've got to try and enjoy as much as we can I miss you today all right let's have the last question let's have the last question can we get out
of this alive who knows hi Lily Nikita this is Courtney I'm from Hampshire living in Bournemouth relocating to Brooks then for a big girl job I am in a bit of a pickle because I'm going to boomtown festival and my friend has invited somebody who is a huge liability never has their own
money sort of bit of the scrounger really nice girl and I got really unhappy about it but I asked my dad for advice and he said it's not all about you but I just don't want to spend my time at a place where I've spent loads of money looking after someone or having at the back of my head like
oh have you ever had any friends like that what kind of advice would you give I don't want to ruin my experience you're on the right page no do not oh I disagree no no I just remembered I went to it was Pixie Geldorf's wedding in Deja in New Yorker and I went with a few of our friends at Emily
and Hemerunso and then this girl pushed on us no like suddenly she was at the airport she was like I'm on your flight we were like okay turns out to be the most annoying girl in the universe and then we get there and she's like no I don't have anywhere to stay and she's like meant to have
grown up with Pixie be a really old friend and suddenly she was like all responsibility for this entire wedding and she got so wasted and then other people sort of forgot to look after so I really had to look after and I was like this has been so fucking unnecessary as ruined this trip for me so
put your barriers up now and be selfish it's your summer and you want to have a nice time she can go and hold a date with other people should be fine I disagree with you on this one uh-uh come on when you're away as well someone who's scrounding cash and doesn't have any of their shit
together yeah but if they're gonna be there if they're gonna be on your trip and and that's unavoidable like I think you just have to lean into it because if you put up the boundaries and you create the vibe it's only gonna ostracise that person further and they're probably gonna drink
themselves into a stupor and become more of a liability and more annoying think if you like play a little game with yourself and be like maybe I'll just you know try and help this person it could actually be like quite entertaining and you might end up feeling quite good about yourself
at the end of it there you go the angel on your shoulder and the devil on the other which way do you go you decide very angelic answer if you're little really fucking diplomatic let's just let's just wait to win it's going somewhere I'm going and I drag some big friend with me let's see how
fucking diplomatic you are then unbelievable okay I hope we can help the world and the country for another week of listen bitch oh my god yeah I think I got it I got it okay she's got it get ready for fireworks get ready for explosions get ready for a good time the theme for next weeks
listen bitch coming live and direct from Lillianna New York City is intelligence intelligence oh it's good to have you back intelligence the mind what is smart what is stupid I love this I love this I love this yes I will be doing some historical research how about the origins of
intelligence no we will not be doing that we'll just be talking about intelligence as two women who didn't finish school who I believe to be very smart it's it's something I you know that can rattle me and I and I wrangle with often like am I smart or I'm not academic but I'm my smart
do I have common sense etc exactly that's why I chose the subject I love it everyone can send their WhatsApp messages to 08000 3040 90 that's 08000 3040 90 oh no it's been a beautiful week great to see Lillian you look great actually thank you Galloway and thriving yeah it's been a good
summer summer's been good to you it has so fast not even over yet I've still got a week in British Columbia and two weeks in Italy and a bit in L.A. the bit in San Diego she's everywhere all right well I'll be in Scotland while you're in all those places so well have fun me
I'll have fun fast we'll continue thanks a lot thank you look forward to talking to you from Scotland all right all right either and we'll save this accent for there I love you I love you speak you later love you love you thanks for listening to Miss Me with Lily Allen and
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