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Do you want me to be honest? Yeah, I do want you to be honest. That's the whole talking point. Well, I was meant to call you yesterday and I couldn't because I was projectile vomiting. Nice. And that mixture of shakes had some sweating. It was just, I was ill. I was basically ill, yes. As you know, it's been a busy few weeks for both of us. And trying to make sure I exercise, keep myself healthy and good.
My trainer said to me, and actually, we trained in the park and it was cold because we're having such a shit early summer. And I just started vomiting mid lunges. And I was like, I think I might be ill. He was like, yeah. And then he said to me, this really tricking me. He was like, there's no point you being here. You're not at your best. So just go rest. I was like, no way.
I'd need to be at my best at all times. So it was quite an interesting lesson yesterday that like sometimes that's just not possible. I think you're very hard on yourself. Like if I feel even like remotely sick, tired, bit of headache, that personal training session getting cancelled. No, I'm any excuse to cancel a session. I felt bad. I felt bad to tell you I was ill. It's something I need to think about. I was like, why do I feel guilty that I'm ill today?
So that was something that came up for me personally. But it was good to just sleep for like six hours I slept during yesterday in the day. And I never get to do that. So that was good. That's why I kind of feel like normal again today. Please do feel better. What a week we had last week. Billy, yeah, do you know that huge superstar that came or not show?
It was quite a strange thing. I think I was just in the week last week. So only last week I was like, God, I can't believe we did that. Can't believe we chatted to Billy Irish. She was so nice. I flew all the way from New York to come and do it. It was quite an insane whirlwind of a trip. It was a quite a crazy week, yes. But worth it for Billy, I feel. Can I just also say it was very important that this was not a guest.
We did not have a guest on Miss Me. We had a, I'd say like extra pair of ears in Lissom Beach. Okay, we can frame it however you want, babe. But it was really nice to just get to know I've never met her. Well, she really loves you. She was very, very, very sweet. I thought, and very smart and very calm. The energy around her, the same cannot be said. That's so much. It was funny for me because I've never seen that side of it before.
Yes, right. So as the interviewer, I'm used to the energy in a room, whether it's a studio or a house, we happen to be in Lillie's Godmother's house because we wanted it to be normal and relaxed. But I'm used to that very much like royalty is on the way. Everyone prepare. And Lillie was like, why is everyone so stressed? I was like, this is what I was like. But you're usually the big pop star arriving. So I cannot imagine what a weird trip that was for you.
It was so weird. We talked about it a bit on the podcast last week, but I really did cry when the rider came through. I guess it was sort of triggering for me to be around somebody in a promo schedule. Because I know I've been there countless times in my life. It's always been very stressful. But I had always felt quite unsupported in those situations for whatever reason. And so it was hard for me to see somebody being treated so well, I guess.
Or not treated so well, but surrounded by people that really were looking out for her best interest and really did care. And even afterwards the sort of follow-up that we had from her team, you know, people wanting to make sure that she was being represented in the right way. Oh, yeah. I felt like with me it was just like, free-for-all. She said some sensational shit. Let's farm it home. Who cares about what the consequences are for her? So it's nice to see that things have changed.
Or at least she is being looked after. I felt oddly protective. Like it was funny because when we were actually sitting in the interview, the dynamic for me was like strange. Not interview because it wasn't an interview. But, you know, I was sat in between the both of you. And, you know, you have a history of interviewing big stars. And so you instinctively approach it in a certain way that feels normal for you.
But I've always been the her in that situation, sort of being interviewed and sometimes being asked questions that make me feel uncomfortable. And I'm a people pleaser, so I'll tend to give people what they want in those situations. And, you know, she is much closer in age to my children than she is to us. Don't say that. I felt, isn't she directly in the middle? No, directly in the middle. So she's 10 years away from them, Ethel and Marnie. And she's nearly 20 years old, so. Oh my god.
So, yeah, so she, you know, I felt like a podcast trying to make the best show that we possibly could. But also instinctively I felt like a mum and also an ex pop star. So I was like, she doesn't have to answer that. She doesn't have to answer that. There were about three or four different roles that were kind of going through your head in this process.
Yeah, and then let's not even talk about the panic from the day before because I remembered, you know, we'd recorded the podcast in the same place before, right? And people will now be able to go and have a look back at it. Yeah, my friend has sound. I was like, that's why you're in this weird room. So we had these really lovely big sheepskin bean bags. And then it was about, I was talking to a friend of mine at the Sunday lunch, the day before we recorded it.
And I was talking to her and saying, you know, Billy Eilish is coming on our show tomorrow. And she was talking to me about her and she said this thing about her being a vegan. And I suddenly remembered, you know, that she was like a Peter spokesperson. And then I was like, oh my god, the sheepskin bean bags that are in my godmother's house. And I was like, holy shit. I can't get asked Billy Eilish to like sit on a dead sheep, basically.
Like that's just not going to fly. Yeah, also you, I hadn't looked to my phone for a while. And then I looked down at just saying, sheep's kid, shit, shit. And I was like, what the hell if she's talking about? I had no idea. I was out of the house. I couldn't even check if they were real sheepskin. And I called my godmother and I was like, can you go and check on the labels? Yes, of course they are real sheepskin. I was like, my godmother, can I move the bean bags? She was like, absolutely not.
Like there's already too many people and too much stuff being moved around. So suddenly I'm like, regressed like into being like a naughty teenager. Like, about to have a party in my godmother's house or something. And it's like, you know, oh my god, she's going to get mad at me. But then I actually thought we might lose the interview of Billy Eilish came in and we asked her to sit down on the bean bags. So we had to go and get three non animal products bean bags for us to sit on.
Just to be very clear, it wasn't me and Lily that it was like, our producer, Dina's wife was actually on the ascending picture saying, do you think these are vegan? Well, these two, as you said quite, I think you put it quite well. It was like, curb your enthusiasm, the making of this Billy episode. It was chaos. But actually you weren't a child about to be in trouble. What you were was being a really accomplished adult producer. I thought you were brilliant.
Well, I really thought that we were going to get like busted and there was going to be like angry PR people. Because in the end, what I had to do was like stack the dead sheep's bean bags in the corner of the room. Because my godmother wouldn't let me move them out of the room and cover them in blankets. So there was basically like this mountain in the corner of the room and I was like, if anyone asks, what is under that? No, I'm like, this is going to be over. It's just a 24-dead sheep.
Just a 24-dead sheep. Just a 24-dead sheep corner. We're just pretending, isn't that? Oh, we got there in the end. Didn't we? We did. And actually, I think she had a really nice time. Can we also say we didn't ask for this. It was Billy and her crew that wanted to make this happen. So I thought that was a really nice energy for us. They wanted to be part of Miss Me in some way. And then it worked out nice. I don't think we'll do it again. Unless it's a... God, who would I tell her to me?
Timothy, I'm gonna tell her to me. That's right. We'll do it again if Timothy's in town. Timothy, day. Maybe also Jeremy Ions. Jeremy Ions. That's long. I hate blanchett. But yeah, it's important to let the world know that this is not a new format or anything. We just, Billy was in town. She's a fan of us. Oh well, she's a fan of Lily. Like, Miss Me came for a chat. That's it. It did get me thinking though, because she had her mom with her. And 25 others. And 25 other people.
And I've been thinking about this a lot lately, about women specifically in pop music, whose family members seem to be ever present within their careers. And the people I was thinking are, oh yeah, because doers got her dad. Doers dad is her manager. Beyonce's mom is always sort of around in the background and her dad used to manage her. Taylor Swift, her parents are on the team. Ray. Oh yeah, Ray's manager is her dad. Her mom and dad. Yeah. Rita's sister manages her. Elena, yeah.
So those are all people that have been, you know, seem to benefit from the presence of a family member on the team. It's interesting that it's all women, because I can't think of any men that, you know, are in the same situation. And it just makes me think like what a cutthroat business it is. That are really like these are all the biggest female stars in the world. Like the common denominator is that they've got family members around them, like watching out for them.
It makes me think that, you know, girls that don't have people like that looking out for them, like more easily taken advantage of, you know, maybe it's like a sort of, it's like a field of extra protection that is needed as a woman. Of course it is. But I think you also have to have a parent that's willing to give up their lives to manage you. Absolutely.
And it made me think, because people do often say to me, you know, what would you do if either of your kids decided that they wanted to go into show business? And I always say like, you know, I'll let them do whatever they want. You know, it's their life. They can do whatever they want. But actually now I'm thinking, if one of them came to me and was like, I really seriously want to do this.
Right. I think I would give everything up and dedicate all my time to not like pushing them like a stage mum, but like being there as a source of support and also, you know, a warning to other people's times to fucking leave my kids alone. I had no idea that you would say that. That is unbelievable to me, because actually, weirdly at the weekend, I listened to your mum's private passions on Radio 3, with my mum. And she talked a lot about her career.
And I thought, God, Alison really had this huge career that if we talk about your childhood, and we have, you know, obviously in our lives forever, we've discussed it. That was like right up there with the kids and sometimes first, you know, she was away a lot and she was working in her career. But she did build this huge brilliant career that provided for you and Alfie and Sarah in lots of different ways, of course, and gave you a great life in lots of ways.
But I don't think Alison's the kind of woman that would give it up to be with you, supporting the career that you had. And definitely not your father. So, so, do you think that you would do that in response? Do the parents that you were brought up with? No, no, I don't think that. I just think all the in response to what you went through as a pop star. No, not even that. I think it's the looking at the landscape now and who is surviving and who is thriving.
And, you know, I think all of those girls that I've mentioned, Beyonce, Taylor, Dua, Billy, Ray, Rita, have all, you know, hugely benefited from having that extra support, that sort of field of protection. I went to see Charlie X, the X, play last night. That girl, woman, is absolutely incredible. I have to say. Is she a just-reader huge article with her yesterday?
I've always sort of followed her career and I've always admired her because she's just been so tenacious and she has, you know, completely stuck to her guns. She's never really veered that far away from her sort of like central message in her brand and her sound. And even on her last record, I felt like this is great. You know, she's getting her flowers, but this time round, it just seems to have reached a whole new level.
And I went to see her play last night, and honestly, I do not cry at concerts. I cried? No. Yeah, I thought it was one of the most like confident, beautiful, simple, profound, sad, like concerts I've ever seen. I don't think I've ever really witnessed anything like it. It was like, the on-say-level confidence, but not choreographed. It was just her, on a stage, really slick kind of production, but also simple. It was like sort of just backdrops with the brat, which has had the name of her album.
And just really, really cool lighting and her dancing, but not in there like, I'm doing dance moves kind of away. It was like her style of dancing, and it felt very just instinctive. Yeah. She didn't really talk in between any of the songs, and I just thought she's just so in her, having her fucking moment in the sun, and like more power to her, I was just so happy for her. It was just an utter joy to witness, but she said this thing.
She went, she was like, oh, you know, guys, did you ever think we'd get here, and everyone started screaming, and then she went, because I did. Yes! And I was just like, yes, Charlie! She was, it was just like, yeah, you know it, and she really, it really feels like for over 10 years, at least, that she's really been just slogging it out. Well, I read this article in the new review yesterday.
She looked so powerful and brilliant on the cover, and I actually haven't been that interested in Charlie XCX throughout her whole career. I've always been a bit confused by it. And reading this article, I was like, oh, shit! And actually, she's got her family. Her parents moved to London with her to help her do it, didn't they? And she started yelling. Really?
Yeah. She just has this conviction, and it's funny that you say that you weren't really interested in her, she thought she was a bit weird, and I think that a lot of people felt like that, but she would have felt that from people, and the fact that she's gone like, no, I don't fucking care. I am who I am, and I'm going to stick to my guns, and you guys are going to see it too at some point. And people really have. And it's really felt like that, this is her time.
I mean, it looks fucking exhausting. Don't get me wrong. Like, the amount of promo that she's doing, and the amount of dancing, and just moving, and gigs, and DJ gigs, and, you know, the amount of content that's being made is insane. She's that, you won, though, still got the energy, and she... You go, girl. It is honestly, like, as, you know, expo-star, it's just a joy to watch people doing their thing. It's lovely to see you being inspired in this way.
I am just loving all the girlies at the moment, like, her, Billy, I love, I love that record, Sabrina Carpenter. Oh, my God, have you heard the please, please, please song? No, I know you want me to listen to it, but I think I hate it. No, you don't. I texted you, and I said, listen to this song, and please, just for me, pretend that you like it, because... I know, and I thought that was a really sweet request. I need a friend to enjoy the Sabrina Carpenterness with me. I know, I can tell.
Please, please, please. It's so good. And then she put her boyfriend in the video sexy? Yeah. Okay, can I just say, I kind of like it. It's very dolly-coded. What do you mean by coded? Like, you know, it's got sort of the essence of Dolly Parton kind of running through it. Really nice way to say that. It's dolly-coded. I like that. Everything's coded, babe. That's so brat-coded.
We're, this living room is brat-coded, because Charlie XCX's album is called Brat, and it's very much this colour green. So this would be a brat-coded room. Who else am I loving? So Sabrina, Billy... Now let's go back to Sabrina. This to me is like your version, your new version of Love, of like the Keens and the Snow Patrols and the Killers time. No, I think it's different. I think that it's like because I'm not in it anymore.
I'm not, you know, when you're in, or at least in the time that I came up, it was very much like women were sort of pitted against each other. And I didn't feel like there was space for me to love and support, you know, my contemporaries. Right. I felt like we were very much like in competition with each other and it was all about winning. And I feel like now that I'm out of it, I can sit and I can look at it and I can just be like just proud and happy for them all.
I just feel, I just want everyone to win. Oh, Lily! But the thing about them being supported by their families is like, I want people to win and I want them to be protected in the winning, because I sometimes when I look at girls that are doing well, I worry for them because I worry about the people that they're surrounded by. Well, don't worry, Sabrina's got Barry Keel her fit. Well, actually, I don't think he's that fit, but I'm interested in his face.
Did you see that thing? I thought she was really interested in his face. Did you see that face? Well, did you see that thing that was in the New York Times about the New Obsession with Rodent Men? No. And it was like, why do we all fancy these guys that look like tiny little mice? So it's Timothy. Barry Keel. Wait, no, it was too good. It was too good. The ginger guy from Challenges, which I totally get, that new film, hang on, Rodent Men.
Come on, let's say let's talk about this, because I was like, laugh, giggling to my dogs. I was like, I fancy them all, and it's really true. Oh, yeah, the guy from the bear totally looks like a little mouse. It's a lead guy. Yeah, yeah. Jeremy, think of me, Bob. And Josh O'Connor, total little mouse. Where did the hype of hot rodent men come from? I don't know, but I'm into it. Yeah, snog them all. Mouse energy. And Matty Healy. Right at the end there. He was there last night, by the way.
Of course, because Charlie's engaged to George from the night. He's only 5.30, found that out yesterday. Yeah, so we got there quite early because Mum and Nud, and we were on the VIP balcony, and there was like, the who's who of New York? Oh, go on. It was me, obviously. I'll get some more stuff for me. So I got there and Joe Keary was there, who was in Stranger Things with David.
OK. And so we had a nice chat, and it was just us, you know, me, my two friends and him and his friend Jake, that were there first. Then Lord showed up. Oh, my God. Then Julia Fox and all her gang showed up. OK, so they're in the Charlie video. Then Em Rata was put sat right behind me, and then Matty Healy and his girlfriend Gabrielle, and then Jeremy O'Harris. OK. It was just, you know, a who's who of New York? That's great, because that's who Charlie brings in.
Because that's not just a load of influences and celebrities. That's like writers and musicians. It's like creative people that are making up the scene. I like that. Yes. They were all very zeitgeist, except for me. Hey, who told you that? It's like, it's maybe the ghost who was the past. I remember that. It's Lily Allen from 2009. Miss Me's not doing for you over a meal was doing for me here at London. I have no idea. I don't really leave the house. You are quite zeitgeist here, actually. Why?
Why do you say that? Because of Miss Me. So people are constantly asking me questions about you, and people are talking about you and your life, and what you're up to, and who you are. And I'll be able to talk about who you are to me. Oh, yeah. What they're saying. I didn't know she was so nice, and I didn't know she was so funny, and I didn't know she was articulate. I wonder why that is. I wonder why they would have got an idea that I was anything other than that.
It's almost like there was some... Some sort of witch hunt. Some sort of narrative going on. To suggest that I was something else. Why that would have happened. Well, there you go. That's the power of a podcast. Power of a podcast, Blake. All right, let's have a break, Lily Allen. I'll see you in a minute. Let's have a break. MUSIC Hey, I'm Ryan Reynolds. Recently, I asked Mint Mobile's legal team if big wireless companies are allowed to raise prices due to inflation. They said yes.
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So I was at a baby shower for Tyson. Yeah, Tyson is our family. She's my cousin, Mabel. It's her older sister. She's a singer. Oh, boy, is she a singer. We call Mabel Beyoncé and Tyson's more like Salonge. And she is having her first baby and they had a difficult journey getting here. And it's a really celebrated pregnancy in the family. And she's having it with the most incredible boy called Salassi, who we all love. So it was a particularly joyful day.
And then just happen to be the vibrious baby shower I ever did visit. Wait a second, bit rude, because you came to my baby showers. I've just tried to be, which baby shower did? I can't remember one of your baby showers. I know why you got to remember. No, well, I wouldn't get drunk at a baby shower. Do you want to bet? You want to bet? You're an actual bet. Um, Tyson, vibrious baby shower. Like it was in Tottenham. I know, I saw some footage on Instagram.
I was like, whoa, it looks like a, I don't know, a wedding almost. It was just like a Shubs. It was like a little rave up. But it had all these lovely elements that are part of a baby shower. There was a quiz. Oh, I wasn't asked to do it. Wish I'm totally fine about Tyson. Totally fine about it, Salassi. But this brilliant friend of theirs did it. I can't remember her name, but she was so good.
And she did one round of baby bars where everyone had to go away for 10 minutes and write some bars for the baby. You look pretty good that I think. So they were great. Because I was like, oh God, it's going to be awful. But actually it was really funny and really good. And then we did a pinata, which I didn't think was very baby showery. And they spam Tyson around. Blindfolded her and then she had to try and hit the pinata.
And then Salassi was like, actually I'm worried about Tyson and the baby. So then he sort of stepped in and put her down and put on the blindfold itself. It was very sweet. And then we just raved it up and then we did the candy. What's the candy? Oh, come on, whitey. It's like candy. You did the electric slide. I saw that. Is that what you call it? The electric slide. All right, Nan. Okay, the electric slide. I saw the materials and I thought electric slide.
Look at them all having fun during the electric slide. Enjoying the electric slide. No, it's the candy, bro. And the candy is the, the candy people that don't know the candy or the electric slide. You know, it's a choreographed dance. And it's one of those great choreographed dance that you're just meant to know. And so it's a lovely thing. And then what happens is it just one person will start it. It usually starts with the song candy. And it's like, candy. And that beat.
But then you can do it to anything. We did it to Luther. Which was great. And I only learnt the candy last year's husband, no. But I did it. I did a little bit. Tiny bit. But it was great. It was really interesting to be around so many of my friends and all their babies. Obviously you see them all on Instagram. But I'd say about 80% of the people that had kids. And probably 80% of them are freelance. I'm working in the creative industries.
And a lot of them were bitching about child care and maternity leave. And I as a freelance person. And as someone that was brought up with a single mum worry about that a lot. If I was to have a kid like how financially set up I'd have to be. Because it is shocking in this country. I think it's the most expensive child care in Europe in the UK. When I'm here now, I have a nanny that helps in the afternoon and evenings.
But if I'm touring or if I'm doing a play or something, then I basically need sort of 24 hour cover. Because I'll be working late into the night, not starting work until the mid afternoon. And then obviously if I've been working late then I need to sleep. And if I'm on tour and the kids are not on tour with me, then of course they need 24 hour cover. So I'd have two nannies doing 12 hour shifts. What are the hell does that look like financially? Quite a lot. A nightmare.
Yeah. No single mum who basically to get a job that would enable her to still look after her kids and take them to school and pick them up from school. So we're saying like nah, no, it was sort of 10 till three. You can't really get a job with those hours that pays enough for the child care. So she ended up staying on benefits. It's kind of like a weird catch 22.
Yeah, no, I get that because when I was before I met David and I was in London, like I was in a situation where I basically couldn't work because the money that I was making from work wouldn't be able to cover the child care that I needed. Yeah, it was sort of like a, I felt snookered or like I was at a sort of stalemate. You know, I was stuck where I was, which was basically at home not able to create and not able to tour and not able to do anything.
Kelly said the same, Kelly, who works for my mum. Kelly has a job to pay for child care that enables her to have a job, if that makes sense. So yeah, it's like boom, boom and right back, it's going on. No one is evolving or growing. I actually just spoke to, I asked Kelly to talk to a friend of hers in her, like we've had kids group. I was like, we're talking about maternity. What can you tell me?
She said that in the last five years, what they're trying to do is share it between paternity and maternity talking about how to make that a more realistic thing and kind of take away the idea that child care is all a mother because my friend Tom Matty was here as well. He's doing some building work and so everyone chimed in today at my house about this. Really got the room talking.
And he was saying that for the first three months, his ex-girlfriend, who he has two kids with, she's a costume designer and she was on set on a film. And he was looking after an eight month old and one and a half year old on his own for three months. I think that probably happens more than not. The roles are shared in all these different ways. But what the country provides doesn't really reflect on that. Yes. But in Sweden, you're laughing. Oh really, do tell me.
Because in Sweden, they pay around 33% tax. And everyone's very happy to pay that because you're just looked after, whether it comes to having a baby or your health care. And we need some more help with child care so that women can get back to work and climb that ladder of power. Thank you very much. Actually, that's a good point. Because I was just saying to Kelly, why do you think it is so difficult?
And it hasn't got better and she was like, I have no idea, but maybe it's something to do with the patriarchy. Yeah, of course. I mean, I just think that like, because it's, you know, having a children is a responsibility, right? If somebody like found out that, you know, there were like a five year old and a three year old that had been like left in a flat all day to fend for themselves, you're going to be like, where was their mother? No one would be like, where was their father?
For some reason. It comes, it's our responsibility to take care of the children, like always and forever. I saw Paloma Faith actually having an interview on something the other day. I think it was with Lorraine. And she was talking about how, you know, seemingly her and her ex partner are co-parenting the children. And Paloma said, you know, I really hate that phrase co-parenting because it insinuates that it's like a 50-50 split. And let's just be honest, it isn't.
Yeah. Society has these expectations of women that it's our job to look after the children. Yeah. And I think that that's probably reflected in how much time men get off when, you know, women have had a baby versus how much time women get off of work when they've had a baby. I know, Dad's that say, I've got to babysit. It's like, no, no, that's your child. No, no, it's funny because they'll say, I've got to babysit.
And as a mum, if someone says, can we go for dinner, I'll say, I need to find cover. I can't imagine like a dad saying, I need to find child cover because they'd be like, no, I've got to babysit. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Whereas, you know what I mean? But also shout out to all the dads that are present, wicked and care. No, not shout out to them. Why not? Because why should they be connected? I'm actually leaving. Good point. We're not congratulated. I can't really wait to see that.
If you like that really, Chris Rock sketch, you're just making it off more than anything. So, some guys be like, I take care of my kids. You guys, you're supposed to be dumb. Oh, yeah. I take care of my kids. Good for you. I'm not really not shout out. I'm congratulating men for like staying in once a week to look after their children that they made with their own sperm. And also, you know, whatever. When we were kids, you remember my, a Bella that I grew up with.
She was, and it was quite an anomaly. She was raised by her dad, her mother left, and her dad was a single dad. And my mom used to hate it at the school gates. So she'd be like, knackered during normal, say anything. And every time John would bring a bell of him, he'd be like, God, he is so, isn't he incredible? And my mom would be like, why? Because he brought a bell of to school. Give me a break. I'm also here with all three of these kids.
So yeah, I think it's a state of mind and it's the way we think about things, rather. I think that starts first. And then, you know, the country follows. The country follows thoughts that me and Lily have. No. No. I have to go because my builders here, and if I don't get him to do this work on Moon Bar, which is what I call my balcony, before I go away next week, I will be really pissed off with myself, because I'm trying to get this done for a week.
It's not even my builder, it's my friend Tom, who happens to build. Have you met Tom? No, I've not met Tom. Oh, it's good to have a good builder. It's good to have a good builder that you can rely on, you love, and who, everything's a solution. Well, that was married to one for five years. Oh, good to have a builder, you love. I know, I know, I know, I was a fucked up, okay. I know, it's all good. How can he is David? Not handy at all. No, I don't get, I'll put up a shelf for you.
I don't get that. I think he can do it, because he had an apartment in the city, where he lived when he was doing, you know, Broadway plays, an off-roadway plays, and he, you know, said that he built all of the, like, woodwork and the shelves, and everything there. I think he's capable of it. Wow. I just don't think that he'd rather not want to do it. Yeah, because I'm sick. That's not easy. I've seen that place on architectural digest, thanks. And no, no, no, no, no, one. It's the one before.
Oh, okay. So it was like, if he did that, he's really quite skilled. Since he's made some money, he's not really in the wood shop so much, you know. Oh, don't worry. I'll bring the carpenter to the family. You need to go and speak to your builder, and I need to have my boat socks topped up. Are you joking? No. I'm leaving for the summer, babe. I need to get rid of these round dolls. Oh my god, it's this egg, because I'm kind of leaving for the summer.
I've still got four more days of serious work, but then I'm going to Antigua with my mom. Yeah, I am leaving this evening to come to London, and I'm going to Greece, and yeah, and I need to have my little, my little face gendered to a little tap up. Okay, so next week, when we talk, I'll be in Antigua and you'll be in Greece. Mm-hmm. And I probably won't be able to frown as much. When you next time you see me, I'll be looking like Chris Jenner in Greece. Great. Yeah. Can't wait. Bye! Bye!
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