The the Hi Credentialist. Good morning, good afternoon, good evening. Thanks for coming on this. This is kind of a we, you know, we kind of touch based. It feels like a year ago. Times are doing that weird wibbly wobbly thing because we talked on Buck Johnson, a buck. Sorry, we talked on a Buck Johnson stream not too long ago. But although I don't know, the last month or so is very hazy.
And then graciously you come on to talk about the the wine mom candidate of the year, Kamala Harris, which is very exciting. You just told me some news just dropped, which we'll get to in the second-half of the show. But before we do all of that, maybe let the nice people, like there's a lot of people in the chat who know who you are, obviously, but maybe let the nice people know who you are and what radicalized you what what
made you come out as a frog. Well, I I guess to begin, yeah, thanks for having me on. It's always fun to be the guest and sometimes not the host. Been doing this now for almost, I think it'll be four years come October, which is crazy to think about. It's only one election cycle 1 presidential administration, so to speak.
In a lot of ways. I like to tell people that my entire sort of like political understanding of the world has been trying to make sense of growing up in the War on Terror as an army brat. And it's, I think sort of an early moment was realizing Barack Obama's not only different than George W Bush when it comes to foreign policy is worse. And growing up trying to get that nostalgia for George W Bush out of my head, which I think for a lot of young men led to a libertarian phase.
Met Ron Paul in like 2012 and I was in my latter years of high school and getting excited about learning. That's something different. Alongside that, I read a book also in 2011 called The Next 100 Years by George Friedman, who does Stratford and strategic forecasting, all that sort of stuff. And it was the idea that you could use geopolitics or this history, demographics, politics, policy, economics and geography to make sense of the world and fell in love with that for the longest time.
I still do. I don't talk about geopolitics as much as I used to, but still. And so growing up in the midst of, I guess what you would call the great awakening that was in college, you know, in 2014, and to see everything that happened 10 years. Ago to today has.
Alongside social media, the Internet has just led to, I think that that sort of meme where like, the young boy is looking at, you know, the two paths you have the nice idyllic castle and then that gothic kind of horror deal of which way you want to go. I feel like that's sort of the direction that, you know, most of your friends probably had to take at some point in time because it's 2024 and I don't
think centrists exist anymore. And I think that that's both terrifying, but also interesting and probably for the better. So I, I guess for what made me who I am, I would just say, you know, being a straight white guy in the United States of American, the last, you know, 30 years at this point. So I don't know what else to say about it. It's an incredibly, like, I feel like everyone's story is kind of on similar lines. I, I worked in, I worked in
Republican Party politics. I was an elections judge for a while. I, I still work in government today as a, as a bureaucrat of sorts with economic development, but it's just like, OK, that's my job. And turns out it has a lot of cross application to understanding how this crazy clown world that we live in, in the year of our Lord 2024. But I, I mean, that's who I am. I I I do shows on international relations, cultural issues,
politics. I occasionally do videos and I'm also the Co host of The Digital Archipelago with my Canadian friend Gio Panacetti. Yeah, well, you know, we need more Canadians in the scene. It's it's interesting how for a while there there was an over representation of Canadians in
this space. Like at one point you had, you know, Jordan Peterson, Gadsat Viva Frye post Millennial a Geo, you know, the list goes on. But it's kind of an interesting phenomena because, you know, Canadians are kind of and it's across the spectrum, you know, in, in terms of political views, what tended to united everyone was this, you know, fight against the woke, which I kind of got into myself a little bit until I realized that the the woke is just really a symptom of
a much larger phenomena. So, you know, even if you put the woke away or defeat the woke or make everyone abandoned that project, you're still left with all the other problems that are kind of weaponizing morality and creating this sort of political moral landscape, which is, you know, destructive to say the least. You know, you're you're, you're, you're did. Were you baptized Orthodox or are you still observing or? No, I I converted to several years ago at this point and. Kind of just.
Came out of the midst of my own health troubles. So I mean, my audience doesn't, as most people in chat might know as well. But I've, I've had kidney failure due to a birth defect four years ago now. And that was sort of what had triggered my desire to get right with my creator. And that's what brought me to
church. And that'll that'll usually do it. It certainly will I in in retrospect, one of the things that certainly does irk me is is that sitcom trope where the gang or a character will have this near death experience where he gets hit by a bus or or almost gets hit by a car or something like that. And he spends the rest of the episode being hyperbolically.
Grateful for life to the comic, you know, pain in the rear to the rest of the cast of characters, despite the fact that it is how we should be feeling on a regular basis about how good life is and a remembrance of death and a good end 'cause I mean, there are, there are worse ways to go than getting hit by a bus 'cause that's pretty quick and instant. But still, it is something that I've always kept in reflection
since then. It's been three years since the transplant as of last June. So I, I thank God every day for my life, but I, I, I think it's an important thing to consider with how, you know, people look at our, our crises of things. And it's funny that you mention all these Canadians because oh, how, how the mighty have fallen for so many of them, with the maybe the exception of Gio and, and a few others.
I guess we can put Dave the distributist on that list, although he's not Canadian, he married a Canadian. So he's one of y'all's by some. Expense well, he's he's he's living there now so I mean he's oh. Well, there you go. He's definitely a Canadian. We'll count him. We'll count him. Yeah, he's yours now. You know you can have. Him. It's not I'm an, I'm an and that is true. We'll get to the we'll get to the show later on in the show. We'll trade one for another.
But yeah, no, I think it's I, I just think just growing up in these times is like a a young guy with your formative years. Like I was in college when Trump got elected. And I think for a lot of people that has been the political black tar heroine for anyone who was online or politically. Active at that time, I mean, I was at a conference I was in. Philadelphia. I was watching the rioters with a drink in my hand at this conference.
We all just like, followed the cop cars and followed the helicopter lights to go watch these people get upset that Donald Trump had won the presidency in 2016. And then the absolute, you know, crapshoot nightmare that has followed since. So I mean, I, I think now we're all aware, like you had said, is that the, the quote UN quote, the woke, this progressivism, this entropy or whatever people want to describe it is a greater symptom.
And all that we're witnessing is I don't want to maybe late stage. That's probably the right way to frame it of certain kind of wasting diseases that we say in here. I find it interesting that everyone kind of finds Elon Musk's phrase woke mind virus maybe cringe. But I think that, you know, using pathological terms like this are very effective. I mean, it's also, you know, courtesy Arvin talks about mind viruses from, you know, how Dawkins got pwned.
I think that there's a lot of useful application to that language and terminology. The question just becomes, you know, is it a virus or is it more like a prion? You know, is there a terrible misfold in the brain tissue somewhere that is causing this? And are we all just trying to I, I, I do think it's more of a virus than it is anything like that just because when you look at the native populations in. America or in Canada or really anywhere in sort of the Western
European countries. It's still the conservative right wing archetypes in those countries who have the greatest
immunity to this nonsense. There was a Pew Research Center poll on religion in 2017 that had said white evangelical Christians. So basically the the main line, 30% of the bulk of the American electorate, especially who vote Republican, had a higher disapproval for homosexuality and homosexual marriage than American Muslims who are immigrants, obviously who came into the country.
And I should tell you that how terrifying our our sort of symptoms and our ideological problems that are spiritual problems are in the West because if I can turn, you know, these Mahabadans kids gay faster than you know, we can bomb them out of existence in the Middle East, that really does tell you how bad things are. And it also tells you where the greatest resistance is going to be. And that's why they're so adamant about liquidating these
populations with immunity. Yeah, it's, it's to get to a little Girardian for a second. It's where it, where we've been living through this period without any real models, social, moral, whatever have you. There's no, there's no one modeling what let's say for Americans what America is what, what is an American? You know, who's who is the prototypical American that everyone, everyone should be at least either trying to be like or trying to not be like, you
know, distinct figure. And you kind of had that a little bit with Obama, but that never really stuck. You know, I think he had like a few months there where everyone was very, you know, when he won the Nobel Peace Prize for getting elected and, you know, silly things like that. But they turned him to celebrity too quickly. I mean, that was the whole point. But it I don't think people could, could access Obama in
that way. And certainly now what you had is people modeling instead of people or instead of a standard standardized model of of America, you now have people modeling political ideas. And this is kind of where we're getting to where you see this sort of schizophrenic, especially on the left, where they're becoming these political
jargons. You know, the, the feminists do try to do feminist things and the, you know, everyone's trying to be intersectional, which means it's, they're everything
and nothing at the same time. And oddly enough, the only model that you've kind of produced in the last little while is Donald Trump. There's a classic example of when he would come to the RNC right after the, the, the attempt on his life and he had the ear bandage on and everyone, there was tons of people in the crowd who had had ear bandages on, you know, wearing the red cap. You know, it's, it's this, this, this form of identification. Like I do what you do. I wear what you wear.
I, I connect with you. I'm trying to be like you. That's modeling. And for better or for worse. So what you're what we're experiencing and this is happening all over the West is because there is a lack of actual models of what it is to be X your left or let's say the the only models you have are pretty poor. Like, you know, Justin Trudeau in Canada, if he's the model, if he's the model Canadian, we're all we're all in trouble here.
So, so the bitter white pill here is the way forward for, let's say, the right or even for the left, for political figures or for for the nation would be to create strong models that that exemplify what we're trying to present as, you know, as Western values or, you know, Western value man. You know, love him or hate him, Reagan was a good model for that. People aligned themselves.
People had to deal with Reagan on some level and and he was, you know, been deified because of it on the right. So I think if we start to see more and more models emerge, and I think we will, especially because, you know, now we have JD Vance, who is close friends with Peter Thiel, and Peter Thiel was the was the top student of Rene Girard.
So he understands this stuff just as far, far better than I do than I do. And I think you're going to start seeing a lot more of that where you're, you know, Mark Zuckerberg's latest transformation into, you know, cool millennial American man. That's a model, you know, and there was intercepts. There's I think Matt Erickson over at King Pill did a show on this where there was a, you know, e-mail exchange with Peter Thiel and a few others.
And he, Peter said, explicitly said that Mark has to become Mr. Millennial. And then he can essentially model and guide and moderate an entire swath of the population towards whatever, wherever they want people to go to. And that's just kind of how this thing works. I, I think it's an interesting note that on the right, we've noticed that there has been a desire, that natural desire for a leader, a man to rise above the rest.
The right still has that belief in a great man of history, whereas Obama really in, in retrospect, was just an embodiment of an existing resentful, destructive ideology. I mean, you know, he couldn't really speak off of a teleprompter. I mean, neither can Kamala Harris. So it's really funny that our two quote UN quote black candidates for president are terrible without a teleprompter. That's an interesting pattern
I'm noticing. But on top of that, I think that you, we've witnessed that as much as it's sort of a 2014, 1516 era talking point. I think that the right has its great man, but the left, and I mean, academics, the James Lindsey's, the Jordan Peterson's of the world have tried to tackle that issue, but intersectionality never really went away. It is still this great theological concept for the left that brings all things into this sort of oneness and unity of singular operation.
Their, their godhead brings all these things together in order to move the, the world of progress of this cheliastic idea of this age to come. And, and I think that's sort of an interesting concept. It's just that, you know, the the right goes towards the man has a very kind of incarnational aspect to its political figures. It's it's Trump, it's Nigel Farage, it's, you know, Jonathan Bowden, it's it's Mosley or whatever, you know, what past figure you want to go to.
Reagan's a really good example of that like you mentioned. And whereas on the left it is more about you have these heroes, you have these this litany of people that you can name off. But I mean, it's not one person. It's this great in a way, I think it's it's what Kierkegaard would describe as the levelling. All of us are reduced down to no personalities, no uniqueness, because we all have to be these
perfectly homogenized things. And if we're going to chill anything, I'd have this article called, I think it's called Kierkegaard and the gay paper clip, talking about like the whole paper clip Grey Goose scenario and Kierkegaard. It's the leveling with American progressivism because this really is a big part of it is just that we've all been levelled and flattened down in order for you to be perfect about it. But it's not like everyone's
flattened or homogenized you. You lose all aspects of cultural, ethnic identity. And obviously if you're part of the majority, you know, European population of a respected Western nation, you are obviously the thing that they want to turn into paper clips. So you don't pay attention to the things that happened like in Southport in England earlier this week and that that's where we're at. And we've been at that point at it for a considerable length of
time. Because it doesn't matter that someone's no one, no one's excited to vote for Hillary Clinton, No one's excited to vote for for Kamala Harris. But you know that that doesn't matter in the wake of the eternal return of this like great man figure that the right loves. And because the existing political theology of the West is anti fascism, it doesn't matter that Donald Trump is essentially a 90s Democrat.
He's basically, you know, the chancellor of Germany circa 1934. That's where we're at. Yeah, it's, it's, it's sort of the we're at war with mimesis. CG Constantine asked. What are the chances of, of an Alexander Great figure appearing in the West? Weird question, I know, but the oddities are a thing. I've speculated that what's going on let's with populist
leaders. That's the catch phrase right now you're actually starting to see a bill to Caesar moment with the Kelly Miley, possibly the the new Prime Minister over in Holland, a few other places or band. What they need to do is be successful in one area. So let's say you take the Kelly's successful at getting rid of the gangs and decreasing violence in in in his country melee gets, you know, gets rid of a whole bunch of government institutions under the threat that the economy is going to
collapse. And of course it doesn't. So there's a success there. I'm when I say these things, I'm not trying to say that Boo Kelly and all these other guys are are guys or we should be championing them or yeah, you know, you know, start to worship them. In some ways. It's that every single success they've made, they make in individual little areas can then be modeled by successive other politicians who are paying attention.
So this kind of feeds into what Matt and I were talking about last week with political kayfabe. When Donald Trump's taking shots of the Kelly, I think that's part of a plot in terms of he can now get get this distancing thing to have his talking points with someone who's friendly with him. So they're playing this little cave for this little wrestling pro wrestling politics match. At the same time, then he can start to on board some of his ideas, but put Trump's name all over it.
And as you start to see the successive kind of, I use the example of the the the story of the crow who can't drink the water at the bottom of the glass. So he puts pebbles in the glass to raise the water. That's kind of what's happening. So the great man of of the West, let's say. Will make might be the guy who just puts all those success rates together, policies together and then does something which we would consider almost
impossible. But he's taking all these little tiny possibilities, combining them and making one big giant event happening. Does does that make sense? Or how do you, how do you feel about that group? Well, with modern times, it's going to be a lot more I think Orient that great man needs to have a great team behind him. And so, you know, this is going to be a game about logistics,
logistics, logistics. But every discussion I ever hear about regime change or great man of history, you noticed this a lot with and I think it's in part because no one wants to get a knock on the door from the FBI. And I will try to word it very carefully, but, you know, you watch Yarvin or you watch, I think it was Patrick Deneen who wrote the the new one, the book on regime change is I think was
the actual title of the text. And you'll notice that in both of those, you know, these, these corpus of work, that none of them really talk about the military at all whatsoever, because no one wants to talk about the fact that you need the officer corps on board at a certain point that isn't politicized in order to lead and do The Dirty work for whatever doesn't want to comply. And that's always the
uncomfortable part. Whereas peaceful regime change, for instance, the whole idea that Yarvin says like the final election about trying to oust certain leaders and individuals. And he references Egypt, of course, in the midst of the quote UN quote, Arab Spring. And it's just like, well, no, there was like legitimate threats of violence there and there were significant detractors who were ready to do unspeakable things in order to get this man out of office.
So I think it's important for you to consider that in any of your political calculations for for leadership. However, we do know that in this day and age that the military can be as powerful as it wants, but it certainly doesn't let anything happen when, say, very powerful corporations can use, you know, immigration or leverage on other countries to
do what they want. And I mean, if the American military was serious, it would have a much more stronger posture about China getting really close with, you know, Central and South America, especially with like the lithium triangle. But hey, you know, things are changing. So I mean, like traditional models of political theory, I don't know are going to fit and I don't know necessarily if the political theory for this day and age has been written. And I don't think we'll we'll
live to see it be written. I think in some respects, and I think some people are giving a crack at it, obviously because we cite these recent thinkers. But I don't know if we have the a good holistic model for politics in the 21st century.
Because even our conceptualizations of things like the nation state or the market or the economy, you know, are based in these industrial revolution terms that, you know, we have to look at people that kind of fit outside of our little O political orthodoxy in order to make sense of, of the world. You know, like I, I've read the network state and I find it clashing with everything I read in college about international relations.
But then I'm like, there's probably something here, otherwise people wouldn't be talking about it in the way that they do. And the question becomes, well, can you make that work? And I guess we're, we'll see in the, in the, in the years and decades ahead, But I, I'm not so sure with an Alexander the Great figure that would require a
great amount of conquest. And I don't know at this present moment that we have anyone with the will to gather forces and to gather loyalty to, to do. Yeah, I think it's it unfortunately might, it might take us the rest of the 21st century to stop living in the 20th, which is really almost depressing thought. I've always said I'll know I've, I've made it to the good place when I wake up and find out no one's referencing World War Two ever, ever again.
That'll be just like heaven on earth or I will be in heaven. Like, oh, no one, no one's referencing, not like, not even Italy, like, OK, good, good, good. I'm I'm on board with that because I'm sick and tired of watching the same show play out over and over and over again. Anyone who's terminally online like like ourselves, like at some point, you know, I took a chunk of July off because of
because of ill health. And also, I think just to do a bit of a media fast because I was just getting sick and tired of hearing the same talking point over and over and over again. It starts you start you start losing the grip of reality. Like, am I is, am I crazy? Like they're just saying the same shit and everyone's just repeating it and seemingly fine with it. OK, you know, before we get to Kamala Harris, I think that's a good spin off point to get to the to get to a bit of a funny.
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my lawns yet, thankfully. And good for them because we might be having some kangaroo Stew, you know. Otherwise, let's get to this. So the people were watching the looking at my wonderfully well put together thumbnail. Hang on a second here. Where is this? There we go. Here she is in all our glory. Ladies and gentlemen, the preemptive, preemptive presumed presumed, presumed presumptive next President of the United States, potentially Kamala Harris.
Venn diagrams, those three circles, right? And then let's just see where they overlap. You will not be surprised because I have constructed a Venn diagram on this. Remember those three circles, how they overlap. I love Venn diagrams so. I just. Do whenever you're dealing with comp. OK, this Venn diagram thing has got to be discussed because like I said before we started showing before we first play their credentials.
I take part in some very highly some some some rooms, some DMS that are that are filled, I mean filled with autists and no one brings up Venn diagrams as much as this bitch like I don't I don't understand what the fascination is. Is it the circles? Is it like what what does what do you any thoughts on what she could be possibly finding in Venn diagram? So so enchanting? Is this like live Laugh loves comes comes some kind of shit that I just I don't? I I couldn't tell you.
I like the live laugh love stuff live laugh Venn diagram it out, you know, just I couldn't. Here, in the middle of the living, laughing and loving like. Here in the middle, right, absolutely there's an overlap. And you know, it was funny. I, I never 'cause I don't listen to her talk. I don't think I've listened to really any of these like presidential or vice presidential speeches or I just see what's on Twitter. I've I've slowly catered my news feed to a calvicate of Internet
racists. So just tell me what's going on. And turns out I've been pretty well informed, But so I don't ever really listen to her speak. I just assume that she's a moron and turns out that, you know, my good gut instinct was correct on that instance. But so it's I, I guess like a talking point, like a safe thing that you go to like when you don't have anything else to really pull out of your rear
end. You're like, Oh, I know I can talk about Venn diagrams in the same way that Yarvan likes to talk about Hitler lives every time that he gets to mention a documentary that he really loves. And I, I think that you can do it with, with this here, it's just like, oh, it's something safe for her to talk about. She's like, oh, I just love the circles. And it's 'cause I look at her and I just, I just think she's a drunkard, you know, Like she's, she's got that wine mom energy.
She's like, oh, I love Venn diagrams. And she's on like her third Pinot Grigio and everyone's a little worried about how much she's had. And she's like swinging the keys around like she's about to drive home. 3rd bottle of Pinot Grigio. Let's let's be honest here. Third box, third goon bag. There's some Aussie references to you. Do you think maybe that she actually thinks those Venn diagrams are memes and she's like, I know memes, Venn diagrams, they're like they're memes.
Like is there any thought process or is it just she just honestly likes Venn diagrams? I don't. I don't. You know, I'm going to go if she honestly likes them. She, she's 60 years old. She only got married 1010 years ago to Mr. Imhoff. And you know, her, her tax bracket definitely improved after she did that. So I mean, like, you know, for a woman who's like, you know, gotten on her knees to get to the top, she's done well for herself.
Let's not get ourselves. But we have to understand she's also a very, you know, interesting political avatar. I mean, she did grow up in Canada for quite a bit with an Indian family, her mother's side. And if you look at her sister looks totally Indian. I guess we can talk about that in a little bit. But also, I just find it funny that her, if I remember correctly, her. Yeah. Her middle name is Devi. Devi. Yeah. She's born in 64. She's 59 years old. She got married in 2014.
And I just, it's so strange to just just to look at her and realize that she is the avatar of Jim Clyburn's political leverage in the United States of America. For those who don't know, Jim Clyburn is an old black Southern Democrat in the South Carolina. I think he's like the 6th Congressional District there and one of those powerful black politicians in the United States and he basically. Still alive. Yeah, he's still alive. He's still around. I don't think he died.
He's still, I think he's still in office. And he basically got the Biden campaign in 20-20 to say like, if you want the black vote and if you want your campaign to stay afloat, you know, promise a, a quote, UN quote woman of colour for your vice presidency. And you know, lo and behold, Kamel Harris, what's the result of that? But you know, she's now the presumptive nominee after palace intrigue for for Joseph Biden. And it's amazing how fast he's disappeared from the the the media doll.
Like he occasionally shows up and he's like little 32nd clips. But they know he's a disaster. They know he's non accomplishmentist. So we got to keep him away from the public to remind everyone it's all about her. It's all about her. Joe Biden doesn't exist. You know, if someone on Twitter said that liberals don't have object permanent. So if he's not in the news, he doesn't exist. And so Joe Biden doesn't exist with these people anymore. It's such a good, it's so good.
And I think it's true. So I mean, for her, like, you know, it's I, I want someone to ask Camelot the breakfast question because I want, I need America needs to know. America needs to know how she would feel if she didn't have breakfast this morning. Yes, oh man, the only the only problem with her now being being being the presidential nominee that she's hopefully she has a debate with Trump.
That'll be delicious. But I would love to you would get you would get that question from JD Vance. JD Vance would would oppose her that question if she was still the VP any of the VP debates. I'm I'm almost guarantee you that JD would would, would would land that one in her lap just to to see her squirm. But let's, OK, let's let's play a little bit more of this. So apologies folks for putting you through those, but. I was like pull out of Venn
diagram, right? And so you know, that's three circles the television coverage of just yesterday. That's on top of everything else that we know and don't know yet based on what we've just been able to see. And because we've seen it or not doesn't mean it hasn't happened, but just limited to what we have seen for us at every moment in time, and certainly this one, to see the moment in time in which we exist and are present, I can imagine what can be and be unburdened by what has been. There.
We'll end it there. There's more of it, but we can. We can end it there. She says that like imagine, imagine what I can be while being unburdened by what has been. I think she could pass the breakfast question answer, but you know, I'm being way too charitable here. But it it's like you just look at the face like she's made for like middle-aged sitcom mother who it's like the first, it's like the first episode of Desperate Housewives. Like she would be on that pilot.
And you just know that she's about to say these things and then go cheat on her husband. Like that's exactly what would happen in any other world. But now she's most likely to be like the most powerful person allegedly. Well, no, she don't even she won't be in charge. Like, let's not kid ourselves. This is the reason why you have that. It goes back to what we were just talking about. Like the difference between the left and the right. She is the embodiment of a
system. We have an intersection system here where, you know, Speaking of Venn diagrams, when when Trump raised the whole is she really black deal us? I think some progressive, you know, shill pundit or whatever did a Venn diagram to explain that she's Indian and Jamaican, but she's also black. And they put that in the middle of, you know, the three circles. And so this is where we're at. But I'm. Surprised. I'm surprised she hasn't leaned into the Jamaican thing.
Come out speaking patois like she's doing the whole Ebonics thing. But she'd be like what? Me me no me no. Take booty judge as my VP, No butty boy allowed. No, but no butty. Clap bumper, clap the loud man. Well, it's because it's because black voters hate non, you know, blacks.
I mean, if there's something this is, I mean, This is why I find the the timeline has been so interesting to watch, like Tariq Nasheed go off on a Bender about Kamala Harris and then for it to be retweeted by people like Greg Price and Steve Saylor. It's just like this great stack of people who are commenting on this.
But I mean, if there is one fundamental truth about like inter scene minority politics in America is, is that, you know, African descendants, you know, American black descendant of slaves or Adolf Howards go or how he calls it foundational black Americans. They can't stand Africans and they can't stand anyone from like the the Caribbean.
There's just a huge disconnect of culture and belief because the ones that come here from elsewhere are richer and well off and they don't take the same kind of handouts that American blacks do. Whereas, you know, they'll come here and they'll get a nice grant to go pay for their Ivy League education or their Med school.
Whereas like, you know, your average African American in the United States, like on EBT or some kind of welfare or, you know, is dealing with the American criminal justice system. Cause like a third of them have felony convictions, if not more. And so they're a huge disconnecting culture. So she's not going to embrace like the Jamaican side. She's not going to embrace the Indian thing because she knows that she has to cater to his very specific set of populations.
They don't really vote, but their precinct captains and their election judges vote for them. So, you know, it's all about keeping the oil machine going. But I mean, someone today was talking about like code switching. It's like, it's not quote code switching. I thought the JD Vance, you know, and he did it. He's at the border doing a tour. And someone asked about why Trump mentioned the race thing.
And it was just, well, simple, you know, like, you know, if you're not going to be honest about who you are and you're just going to be basically, I, I, I was playing off the old song, you know, Karma chameleon. You know, like, if you're going to be Kamala Chameleon in this instance, then you need to be, you should know what you're dealing with and getting into. I mean, it's so it's, it's like whiplash to talk about electoral politics, but it is the season because I normally don't cover
this kind of stuff at all. But it, you know, as a side tangent, man, it was really entertaining to to see Trump at that national black journalist conference or whatever, taking questions that was, I try really hard to avoid the, the magic dragon that is like the Trump energy and meme blacks. But it was like, put it into my veins, buddy. Just like, let me have a hit of that because that was, dare I
say, some keno. Well, the way he shut down the first, the first they had people haven't watched this. I'm sure I have a clip here somewhere. But we'll, we'll, we'll skip to more prevalent stuff. But Trump was on stage with three black journalists, three female black journalists and as I guess presumably the the crowd was mostly African Americans or blacks or journalists or whatever. Have you.
The crowd reactions to a lot of this stuff was really cool because if you got like a mixture of like, oh, and clapping and like booing. But the first woman sitting to his right, it kind of launched into him, you know, calling him racist and all this, all this stuff. And he just shut her down by, you know, by saying, wow, that was really nasty. I was really rude. And also you made me wait for 30 minutes and he just like curb stomped her and then basically. Poetic irony of a black event
being laid by 30 minutes. Right. You're on Caribbean time. What do you want? Did you see that? Did you see that? Because there was three women and the other two women kind of caught on and were nicer to him and posed, well, nicer. They were professional. Like, it's not even about nice. It's just that you're actually, you know, being journalists for a second. And there was one woman sitting on the far, far right. And Trump kept saying, I can't hear you. Their mics kind of screwed up.
I can't really hear you. And it felt like he was trying to make them switch like they never did. But he almost wanted, almost felt like he was going to make them like switch from the woman sitting next to him who was really nasty. It almost felt like he wanted them, like, to switch seats. And then that would be the the ultimate power move of some, like. No, no. Yeah. I want her. Have her sit next to me. That's nicer. You know, it's just gotta love it. Yeah.
OK. Let's talk about the memetics of all this. Or so we have Kamala Harris. Oh, you actually. Sorry. Let's do this because you shared this recently. This might be the, the. This might be. The spoiler as to who Kamala's running mate is going to be. Set this up and you can tell me a bit more about this guy because I don't know too much about him. Yes, OK. Philadelphia, we got work to do. We're running around with y'all. There's Shirelle Parker here with leaders from across our region.
Kamala Harris is on the road to victory. And the road? Goes to Pennsylvania. And in Pennsylvania, we are united behind her, the woman that's tough and can lead. Are we ready to fight for it? She is the right person at the right time for this job. Is going to do right by labor, going to do right by working people? And I can't think of a better
partner than. Our governor, his policies have not only supported the working class, but have set standards for progressive leadership that benefits all citizens. Philadelphia building trade IBW for Kamala Harris. Montgomery County, Bucks. Delco, Chester. We're getting. OK, we can leave on there. There's your Oh God, oh. What a what a curse. Oh Lord Jesus Christ unto God, have mercy on these sinners like this. No, this is, but this is it.
There's, there's your poser child, there's, there's your model, right, there's your, there's your Kamala voter, 2024 Kamala voter. This is. It doesn't get any better than that. You wonder if she's childless. I hope so. For. Her children? No, she's probably got like two one of these games. Yeah, I mean, Josh Shapiro has four, so no. So tell me about the Shapiro guy. So the, the, the clip that we're playing was put out by Shirelle Parker, who you heard at the beginning.
Mayor Shirelle Parker, proud to her tweet says this quote, proud to be back with so many leaders across our region supporting Kamala Harris for president and Josh Shapiro, the governor for VP. We were one city, one region 1 Commonwealth United. And of course, she ties all the people that were in this, this little video. And so I don't know if it's just a, a, a draft Josh Shapiro.
We, we do know that Governor Shapiro has been in contact with Kamala Harris. Traditionally, the vice president is never announced in their respective home state. So, but so if this is the case and he is the one, then cool. And so Greg Price tweeted out and he says there's a 100% chance that they were supposed to schedule this post for next week. But some dumb staffer for the mayor of Philadelphia accidentally revealed that Kamala Harris is picking Shapiro for her vice president.
Potentially. It's just a draft movement. We don't know. The Democratic National Convention has not yet happened in Chicago, but I think that it's a pretty good lean. The other big name that was out there was Senator Mark Kelly of Arizona, the husband to former Congresswoman Gabby Giffords, who was famously shot at, led to gun legislation. But As for Josh Shapiro himself, Josh Shapiro is the recently, he was recently elected into, into.
He was, yeah, elected in 2022. So the 2022 election was who he was going for and he was going against Doug Mastriano and the Republican side. But I mean, it was it was not. I mean, 2022 was not good for Republicans period. This was also in the wake of the Dobbs decision as well. And so between unpopular down ticket candidates for the Republicans, I mean, candidate quality is a thing, but also spending your money effectively to get out the votes a whole other. But yeah.
So he's been in office for a couple of years. And prior to that, he was the Pennsylvania Attorney General. And he has been in politics for most of his adult life after graduating law school. So he's a professional politician. He by the last name is a Jewish governor, which makes things all the more interesting.
So this will be the first time he'll be the first he will be the first Jewish individual on the ticket for in the history of the United States. And it will be the first time that a a white man is not on the ticket here in the United States for a major party. And I imagine that this will be sort of the future going forward for Democrats as they continue to be the party for minorities and resentful whites.
And this will kind of be the dynamic you have your your strong woman of color type deal or however with your, you know, well to do business kind of white guy or or some light skinned passing kind of character, I think is how it'll be in the future. But so he's the I mean, Pennsylvania went for Trump in 2016 and went blue in 2020. It's been progressively getting more and more blue in the same way Virginia has over the last several decades.
So it's safe to say that they're playing for this East Coast swing state. Aim for Georgia, get Pennsylvania, keep Virginia. Whereas, you know, the Midwest. I don't know how that's going to go. I think Trump's been playing it with JD Vance as an obvious pick for the Midwest, and then the game is going to be about who can pick up Nevada and Arizona. Well, explain to me something because you probably know this better than I will, but certainly know this better than I do.
She's off the ticket on three states, isn't she? Because. Because they missed the cut off point to replace Biden with Harris. And where was it? Kentucky, two other states as well where she's not even eligible to be on the on the voter roll because of because they have to because Biden was the was the nominee. They put they, they placed Biden on the on the on the ticket and now they can't change it. They're past the the time to pass the to change it.
And at least at least one of the states, they can only change it if Biden dies, which is still an option. Just saying you could wake up Ted one day. So I I don't even know how she like, you know, unless they really, really fortify this election, I don't even see how she that how the Democrats can can feasibly win with three states off the ballot. Or am I missing something here? So I'm, I'm not sure where you got that from.
How, how I understood that the only real legal issues that we're going to have to be fought with was actually with the state of Ohio prior to even Biden stepping down was because the nomination has to be done and they have to have their party nominee selected X number of days before the election I think was 90 in order for them to be on the ballot in that respective state. I don't think I mean with her already securing the delegates and making her the presumptive
nominee even before the. Oh, I'm just checking this right now. She just secured the delegate vote to become the Democratic nominee for president. Yeah, I, I just, yeah, I saw that. So I mean like so clearly, like she's got it. Like she will be the Democratic nominee. They will coordinate her and make this a big lovely gay black round kind of, you know, sport, you know, the the Obama coalition 2.0 really this time just all the more insufferable.
And so I I know the. Thing if she doesn't, if she doesn't roll around and cow shit it doesn't, it doesn't count. So I'm saying like. Well, we'll see, you know, we'll, I wonder if she'll participate in any, you know, dipping and diving into the river Ganges when she does a diplomatic toward India. But a man can dream. A man can hope that, you know, she'll catch something or whatever, but it's a disaster nonetheless. So I, I don't think there's a ballot problem there at all.
The the question is just going to be about get out the vote efforts. I mean, she's seen a huge bump. They, they, they show all these numbers about how well she's doing in fundraising. But I mean, like she just became a candidate. A lot of that money was already in the Biden war chest. That's not just be transferred
over. So you, we already know how this is going to go and you know, people are living off the high of 2016. And I think it's important to also consider 2020 and that Trump's ground game is being a, it's a novel strategy because new rules for with the FEC have allowed this money to be spent with other groups in coordination. So you're working with TPUSA and other voter outreach groups. So it's not just the Trump campaign doing GOTV efforts, which is interesting.
We'll see how well it works. It's a non traditional approach. It's taking advantage of new rules. But man, I'm talking about stuff. I haven't talked about it forever. And it's I, I, I think we'll, we'll have to see. I'm continuously not all that impressed with Chris Lesavita. And I think what's her name? Like Susie something Susie Wiles or something like that. The the Trump campaign heads. Susie cream cheese. Yeah, I'm not impressed.
You know, like their their interview with the Atlantic the last month that came out was just absolutely atrocious. You know, well, every Karen we lose and it's like, oh, look at that, an anti white slur. We'll just win a Jamal or a Jose. And it's just like, it's not how it works. Like even if you got a like 13 or 12 prime, yeah, 13 to 12% increase in the Hispanic vote, that's still not barely enough to account for like a one to 2% loss in the white vote. It's just not.
And so again, I think that unless Trump is willing to do a lot of the get out the vote efforts to get those economically and politically dissatisfied and non interested white people, especially in the Midwest. But like we saw in 2016, like good luck and also the procedural Kabuki theater that is American elections is still on the table. The unsupervised, you know, ballot boxes are brought back in.
I think it was Wisconsin and the the one other, I guess like silver lining is just that in Arizona, at least the federal courts upheld that you do need proof of citizenship to vote and it's disastrous. That bare minimum statement or requirement has to be uphold by a federal court and millions of dollars being spent in legal fees. But that's the the joke of quote UN quote, democracy in the United States. I I think of that demeister
quote all the time. You know a country or a people gets the government it deserves, and you know how long? Oh Lord, how long? Well, you know, there's a lot of discussion, I think in in certain ortho spheres. I know Father Turbo Quail's waited on this, but Trump avoiding having his having a very bad Sunday a few weeks ago, it was a Sunday, I believe. Yeah. And by just turning his head by a few millimeters and you know there's. Yeah, it's a Saturday night.
Sunday morning, right? Sunday morning time for me is always wizzle because yeah. Well, it was, yeah, it was a Saturday evening, but I was just even referring to it liturgically. It's a it's a Sunday morning. Right. Yeah, Yes, exactly. Yeah. And the, I definitely think it's, it was a grace. Now, because we're talking about God, we don't understand. We may not understand what the grace was. It may not even be a grace that we understand in our lifetime. But I definitely do think it was
a grace of some sort. That being said, I think if people start to believe that Kamala and Co don't have a chance, they're not paying attention. I think they definitely do have a chance, legal or other or otherwise. They don't have to, you know, massively fortify this election for it to be a referendum on Trump and and the system itself. What do you think of this? And we'll start wrapping things up a little bit.
But Vivek has come out and said something along the lines of that the that what they're running against really is a system. I think that's a very effective narrative tool to kind of almost ignore Harris all together. And this whole weird thing they're trying to propagate and all that stuff like saying like, look, she's not, she's not that important, right? She's just a talking head. She's a, she's a, she's a representative of this system behind her. And that system is going to
continue. So if you think your life is bad now, it's not going to get better just because you put Kamala in and she made all these promises and POC and yadda, yadda, yadda. Yeah, it's the system behind her that is going to continue to wreck your life. And then you can make it a referendum on not on Trump, but on the system itself, on the regime, say, or whatever term
you want to use. And by I think by if they can be successful in doing that, that creates a new dynamic and really puts the question to the American people. And of course, maybe I'm, I'm being a bit too hopeful for this, but because I don't think anyone wants to see massive change in the government in any way, shape or form.
But if you can structure it in some, in some way that really puts it, puts it as a question of do you want this thing to continue doing the thing it keeps doing to you every every few years? If the answer is no, then vote Trump because Trump's going to change that system. Trump's going to actually, you know, drain the swamp or, or start to break apart this this, this regime that's that's ruining people's lives. What do you think of that? I can just monologue. No, it's OK.
My apologies. I realized it was muted. One of the beauties of sort of political formula in general, and it's also sort of the quote UN quote, flexibility of the American constitutional system is that it is remarkable of how you can frame things and still keep the system as is, but also you can add a lot of things to it. I mean, let's let's not forget that a cabinet level secretary, the, you know, the secretary for the Department of Homeland Defence, that came from the Bush administration.
That is a relatively new piece of government in the same way that, you know, the United States Space Force is and other parts of America's intelligence and security apparatus. And yet it all operates under the confines of our legal document that was drafted and, you know, debated and accepted and ratified back in 1787. And so, you know, it's a remarkably structurally sound thing, even if it gets abused on the regular, like legally, we still abide by it.
We still have court cases about it. And so that gives you a lot of wiggle room to do things with it. I think that every time that you look about it, yeah, I think Vivek is right that it is a referendum on the system. It has always been a referendum on the system and what the system is doing that creates these election events as the sort of politics of last resort.
I tell people all the time that the most honest 5 minutes of American government in recent memory was the Brett Kavanaugh general hearings, because you had former Senator Ben Sasse explain to the American public that Congress doesn't do its job, it's abdicated its responsibility, and that we let unelected bureaucrats run this country.
And when unelected bureaucrats do something that the American people don't like, the politics of last resort becomes the Supreme Court. And that's why it is the most politicized office in the world in the United States, because of that, because it is the politics of last resort. And nine unelected people can determine the course in the system. And we already know how it usually works when it gets to 50% + 1 on a progressive issue, it tends to vote that way. And it's been that way for a
long time. I mean, I was just reading yesterday or earlier this week reading a essay from the New Right papers and that was from. Tune into that stream was. Good. Yeah. I mean, it's really good stuff. And we were reading Traditional Supremacy by William A Stanmeyer, and Stanmeyer was talking about how the slippery slope is, you know, the undefeated champion of the United States.
We went from this invented right to privacy about married couples within their domicile using contraceptions to just less than 10 years saying actually, no, any random stranger can not only kill their child, but, and if they're a minor, they don't even need parental notification about it. And so again, over these invented rights of privacy and doctrines that they invent and so on and so forth.
So you have a lot of wiggle room to do things As for this, I think that you're, we both kind of know that she's not in charge and that whoever will be telling her what to do is doing so. And I think it's very key with how she how her messaging is going. Like this is the most gendered election more than Hillary Clinton was because the people who are behind I think Hillary Kamala Harris's election stuff, a lot of them are, are women. You can see this by how she
acts. You can see by how she talks and how she cuts. And like even the the recent video she did where she was at with her records and she was showing like how her her basically her black street cred with, you know, all these Miles Davis and other jazz. She's in those streets, she's in those. Streets, she's in the streets, she's in the streets. But you know, and and again, Tariqna, she is getting all upset like no person believes that she's black.
It's like, no, but this is what white millennial Democratic voting women think constitutes blackness. That's something just again, it's a very important thing to consider sort of the greater Veltunschung of how these messages are going like the this is a very millennial progressive system, at least how it's memetically coded. Structurally. Not so much. I got some proof for you and and again, Lord forgive me for for, for what I must do, but let's just play this.
This is this is a Kamala supporter. Have you heard of this woman? She was part of the White Women for Kamala. Is this going to be one of those? Yeah, it's already right there in the title. It's the gentle parenting. It's that. It's not even gentle parenting. What it is, is what I imagine people try to convince elderly people in homes what to do to take their pills before they're
brutally beaten. Yeah, this is millennial white woman like Meta this the this is like if you put all the bad things of millennial white women together. This is what spits out just. I'll play a little bit. Hi, friends. It's time to share the Arctic. Now your turn is all done Got it got it. I know you like when people share with you Well, you need to share the earth with everyone plants, animals and people. The White House had to take special.
She's having a conversation with like clips from from online clips from newspaper clippings like this is this is how batch it can create In saying this is so action to protect 13 million acres of land in the Alaskan Arctic because the Arctic is a super special place. Yeah, people need gas for cars these days, but there are more respectful ways to do it all. Taking things from super special places hurts nature. So let's turn your choices around and find ways to help the
Earth instead. Did you know places like the Arctic need to stay cool to keep our plan at the right temperature? When you I can't, I can't. I can't. Sorry, I can't. It is this is. This is. This is this is your, this, this is your voting base. This is it. This is, this is the, this is a, this is a spokesperson. This is an influencer that they're using. Just get the word out. And it works, I mean, and it works well.
And, and again, like, you know, I'm, I'm not on, I don't, I don't, I don't know if you are and I won't speak for you, but I'm going to safely presume you're not on TikTok and. No. And neither am I, but I. But that sort of stuff is there all the time alongside trends and dances and book talk, which can be just basically women describing what kind of, you know, bloody dime novel they're
reading. But the, the point is, is that, you know, that's a, that is a medium that you and I are not part of. It is a medium for younger people. It's in the same way like Facebook is for people that are older than ourselves. And it's. And you're not even 30 yet and you're saying this stuff. Yeah, like I'm pushing 50. Like I, I look at, I, I tune into that and go, this is diseased. This is cursed for. Disease let's see for this mRNA, this thing out existence.
I don't know what it is, but I don't want anything to do with it. Instagram gives me the heebie jeebies. So like you know, TikTok is just one stage. It's like it's like Instagram but Chinese. Like no, I'm not No, no, no, no, no. Yeah, but it takes the the best parts of like Snapchat where it's like it's like 30 to 92nd clips and then they like kind of like just disappear because it goes to the next part of your feed.
And so I, I, and is because I have like normie friends who send me these things and I don't have the app installed. So I have to like manually click the link open in browsing mode on my phone. That way I can ensure that I can watch the damn clip that they send me. It's like, well, because some of it can be interesting, but it's like, I've also already seen this on Twitter. So thank you. And again, it's just different mediums for, for different overly online consumers.
But The thing is, is that what we're witnessing is a I, just I, I, I call it speciation or maybe like neurological speciation or something. Like you really are going to see huge differences in how people behave and interact politically, socially, spiritually, based upon what kind of technology and media they interact with and consume and use as an extension of themselves. You and I are not Tik tokers. We're we're Youtubers. We're we're bloggers.
We're Twitter people. But manly men doing manly? Things manly men doing manly things, you know, you know, saying GM in the in the group chat every morning. And so when you do these things, like it's in a different way of politically engaging and alongside the world, not just in politics. And in doing so, you know, we're witnessing like just a whole totally different creature on the other side of like the, you know, the looking glass.
And it's almost sort of like a Morlock and Eloy situation right there from HG Wells's The Time Machine. Like, you know, like what? Look at that. And you're just like, do do you have any relationship to that? No, not really. But you all share technically a territory and you all technically are going to vote in
this election. And so, you know, I this, you know, meta narrative state of conflict that we're in illustrates, I think a very clear point that, you know, this is a generational turn we're beginning to see on the right, Gen. X sort of emerge and have its voice politically, but also the left is taking the millennial and zoomer approach to politics because they know the demographics is on their side in that respect.
And so now we're beginning to witness a clash of a generation that has some memory of how things used to be and how things were once good versus one that has grown up entirely in a 24/7 constantly politicized. Everything is problematic, everything is intersectional. Everything must be intersectional. And this is the great clash.
And I think to some extent, this is my like random prediction here, sort of Mcluhan esque is, is that I think that we're going to stop doing generations as much about what years you were born in, but what technology you grew up around. Because there's plenty of memes now that we'll talk about. Like, for instance, I was born in 95.
They'll have all these memes about like, oh, people, what kind of tech or what kind of video games you played in 1995 and how you grew up with it, which of course illustrates what kind of technology you grew up around and what kind of things you were exposed to. And so for these people, it's like, you know, TikTok, it's the the trends, it's the, you know, mini bag and a project or whatever the trend is these
days. And that is going to be the great way in which these these sort of political visions for the world express themselves, despite the fact that she can be completely oblivious because she's wealthy and white doesn't have to worry about these things because, you know, she's a rich
white progressive. Never going to see the terrible side of it, which is what we see in Southport for which we saw in Dallas or what we've seen in any other place where some illegal immigrant runs over, kills murder, shoots whatever, and gets off Scott free because of her politics and her justice system. And I can't even say it's her directly responsible because she's been brought up in that. She's been acculturated, inculcated everything possible to say like she's the good person.
He is part of what is considered the moral majority here in the United States, that these things are just the things that you accept because once a certain issue gets decided, say Obergefell V Hodges, right? Like, you know, sodomy and marriage in the United States, you know, a lot of Republicans just rolled over and died on it where a few short years later they voted to preserve it in federal law as a protected class. So, you know, this is how things
go with the ratchet. And for the first time in my lifetime, I have witnessed from the Supreme Court legal victories going in the other direction, Dobbs, Chevron, affirmative action and things that I presume more to come, even more so with gun rights and the rest. And so, you know, this, this election, I think, you know, at least Meta, politically speaking, it is a clash between generations, a totally different exposure and usage of medium and
media technology. And I think for any young white guy, I can already tell what your politics is just by looking at you. You're either on the right or you're going to take finasteride to preserve your already decaying hairline. You're going to come out as gay
in two years. Like I just that's sort of the way it's going to go. And that's sort of the disaster in which we live in the the terrifying aspect of that is because Americans and a lot of Westerners are so deracinated as it is because of all the things that have come before us, it becomes very shallow and it becomes very, very hard to adopt
things with any actual meaning. Religion is a terror is a great example, but it's also a terrible tragedy because you know, the, the flag in your buyer or what kind of cross you put in your buyer. You, it's like for most people it's not you, but the royal you. It's a, it's like a fandom thing. It's just like a little cap you put on to say I'm on team Yi, put on the flag of the papacy, I'm on team Catholic or whatever. But I mean, do you go to Mass regularly?
Do you pray the rosary? You put the Byzantine cross in your bio? Like do you go to liturgy regularly? Are you confessing? Are you in good standing? Do you and say the Jesus prayer everyday like in things like that.
And it raises a great question. It was just like, OK, so we are all these group of people who are so deracinated that even regional identities are being brought down to these consumer identities like, oh, Texas, you know, it's not just like San Jacinto or it's not, you know, remember the Alamo. It's it's fucking HEB Bucky's for God's sakes.
Like, it's such a disaster for what it means to be rooted in something that the only thing that you have left is a consumer identity, which is the shallowest thing possible. And the same thing is happening to religion. Same thing is happening to national identity. And in doing so, the very people who hold on to any genetic, political, spiritual memory of what this place used to be, again, are the ones they wish to ethnically replace, cleanse.
And again, just make it so, as Michelle Goldberg wrote in The New York Times in 2020, we can indeed replace them. And that's sort of what we're seeing play out in a lot of the Anglosphere countries right now. I think there's a really good place to to end it. We could go on. It's a. Terrible place to end it. It's so it's so dark. OK, let's, let's, let's, OK, wait. Oh, you're right. Let's, let's instead of getting black pills, let's, let's, let's
draw some white pills. Because here's what's changed, right? Here's what's changed from 2016 and 2020. And again, this is hats off to Matt Erickson for, for doing all the work on this with the PayPal mafia and the, and the, the new counter leak coming up. And then I mean, this is, you can weigh in on this and try to be positive there. Peru, for Christ's sake. But I, I take a lot of I, I'll tell you this.
I speculated when, when Matt had done all that work, we kind of found all these connections to Peter Thiel and all, and all those kind of networks and Elon Musk and etcetera, etcetera,
etcetera. I looked at the potential VP picks on for, for Trump and JD Vance stood out like a, like a beacon to me. It's like that's a direct connection to, to Peter Thiel and that whole network Now, so is Vivek, but Vivek's sort of a little bit on the outlier, a little bit outlier, even though he's, he's deeply tied to, to JD. And also I don't think the optics on, on Vivek is, is as strong as, as JD in terms of winning over large swaths of, let's say the Midwest and even
the South. So, so you have this candidate now, this mimetic candidate, the, you know, we're going to have Gerard, Randy Gerard possibly in the, in the White House, which is very, which is very interesting to me. And you have this whole new counter elite basically all very visibly and vocally casting their weight behind Trump. Marc Andreessen being one of the big ones, right?
And Marc Andreessen's is kind of taking over to Peter Thiel's to taking a bit of a backseat 'cause he had a, this is got a little bit of, you know, water cooler talk. But Peter Thiel's of course, homosexual. The his his lover fell out a window a little while ago, tragically. And there's and then also Peter kind of took a, a back seat, kind of withdrew a little bit from some public, you know, appearances. So. Kill one rent boy and then you get scared. I don't know.
I mean, come on, man. Close to home, man. Well, I, I don't think it was I, I, given what the, the ex lover was threatening and some of the people stuff that was also being discussed. I think that you don't just let that slide. I'm not saying he did it, but I'm sure someone close to him whacked him. But you know, that's a, that's a palace intrigue for another day. I mean, the, the thing to add on to what you're saying is, is that I think that I shared that article with Matt Erickson.
But this was an article written by, of course, these two commies back in the 1990s. But I thought it was particularly interesting that they outlined what was known as the Californian ideology, which is this laissez faire cultural libertarian attitude where I want to make a lot of money, I want to build things, I want to be successful. But if anything, if you mess with me, I'm going to go to war with you and I will run to the state if there is a threat.
And we've kind of noticed this throughout the history of American tech when it comes to dealing with outsider money or companies trying to buy up parts of Silicon Valley. And a lot of it does go to the back to the state and they run off to get some protection or to get what they need in order to be competitive. And so now you're witnessing a great leviathan screw with America's wealthy people. And it's very strange because it's like, I'm no fan of the
rich either for my own reasons. But, you know, they're also witnessing the absolute insanity that's been going on, and we're sort of witnessing. I mean, I've been on record saying that I think the Delaware decision against Elon Musk was the Rubicon that we're all expecting Trump to cross it. But I think his backers crossed it when they basically when a judge in Delaware came down on a decision against Elon Musk saying that the money that he was going to be paid out for
Tesla, it was invalid. And then they, they almost basically seized it. That was, I think the moment where the entire VC class had came up and went, what do you mean? Like we had, we were playing this game. We know the rules of this game. Yeah, sure, it's, it's it's shitty and rigged. But we don't, we understand what the rules are. And now suddenly you just change the rules because you don't like Elon because he said because he's not bending the knee enough. He didn't kiss the wall
passionately enough. What's, what's the deal? I I personally think that was the multi inflection point when all of a sudden Trump became the most viable candidate for that, for that kind of early to happen. For me. My producer is My producer is trying to give me. Notes, of course, of course. Go ahead. Yeah, No, for me, I think one of the things that also came out was very strange.
And the one that really said, OK, I can't work with these people anymore was when the DOJ Civil Rights division basically said, we're investigating Elon Musk as particularly all his stuff with SpaceX because they aren't hiring refugees and asylum seekers. But by federal law, he is not supposed to hire those people because he has contracts with the Department of Defense. And so you're, you're, you're prioritizing efficacy and national security for the sake
of ideology. And any time that that happens, you know, and you're you're doing basically, you know, suicidal Lysenko ISM with national security interests, anyone, regardless of their business sense or not, it's going to say, OK, this is this is crazy. It is kind of interesting. And maybe again, it goes back to that we get the government we deserve that basically, you know, God's biggest creditor and also the richest man on earth has been now leading the cause to get Trump elected.
I mean, $45,000,000 a month up until the election is no laughing matter, especially when a lot of that money from what was discussed by Jesse Watters and others on Fox is meant to go towards election transparency efforts. So I mean, you've got a, a war chest and it's going to be nasty. It's going to be bloody and it's going to make 2020 and it's going to make 2000 look like a
snowball fight. But it does offer us an interesting Ave. that we're witnessing much larger powers that be than ourselves Duke it out. And this is sort of where where we stand, you know, and I, I tell people all the time, you know, I take trust, not Princess and the sons of men very literally. But at the same time, I know that I would go insane if I wasn't, you know, reminded that God gets the last word on these
things. But it does seem that, you know, like, like with what Elon said in that recent interview, you know, with his his son basically being dead over the transgender stuff. It's just like if there wasn't ever Hell hath no fury like a vengeful father. Like you talk about the vengeful son a lot. But I think what we're witnessing, especially with that Gen. X moment, there are a lot of angry dads that have witnessed the loss of their, you know, their posterity and their inheritance.
And you, you can do a lot of a man to break him, but the thing that will either break him or to make sure that you kill him, because if not, he's going to make your life a living hell, it's to go after their children. And you have crossed and I mean this, this whole ideology, this whole regime, this whole system has gone after the very thing that, you know, we just heard right there, which is the children. Yes, that's my child, pipes up. We should end this year because
I do have to go be a dad. But just to touch on that, the vengeful, the spirit of the vengeful sun. It's I use the sun analogy because of because of the using, you know, the Trinical father and the, and the, and the sorry and the devouring or smothering mother as precursing spirits. So the sudden motif kind of works in that sense. But that spirit of, you know, screw you. I'm not going to do what you're telling me to. I'm going to tear your things down.
I'm going to break your toys. I'm going to, I'm going to tear this thing down. That's the motivating thing behind it. And I think Elon is the poster child for that, for that spirit and where he's and he models millions, maybe even billions of people. So as that spirit becomes more and more modelled by, by Elon and on that platform and and many others, I think you're going to start seeing these what I call totalized violence, which
is not going to be kinetic. It'll be in every shape and form of people going around going, no, I got betrayed, we got screwed, we're tearing this thing down. And you know, either he gets directed in some way that's beneficial. I don't know if we can openly speculate on that, but or it it turns internal, which is which, which is my fear about it because I think that's how you get Burma. Well, well, Jason, we have 94 days to speculate until Election Day.
And we, we the, the, the meme that nightmare vision started on Twitter. Like you have less than one year. I think that the one word of caution I would say is, is that if you say to your enemies, you have less than one year, that means you also have less than one year to prepare for both victory and defeat. And God willing, we should prepare for both. God willing indeed. Ladies and gentlemen, thank you very much for tuning in Prudentialist.
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