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Mind Over Murder

William F. Thomas and Kristin M. Dilleymindovermurderpodcast.com
Listen to Mind Over Murder, the true crime podcast from victim's advocates Bill Thomas and Kristin Dilley. Kristin is a researcher, writer and teacher from Virginia. Bill is an entertainment executive who is also the brother of a murder victim, now living in Connecticut. His sister Cathy Thomas along with her girlfriend Rebecca Dowski, were the first two victims in the still unsolved Colonial Parkway Murders ,which claimed the lives of 8 young people near Williamsburg from 1986 to 1989. They moderate the Colonial Parkway Murders FaceBook and Mind Over Murder pages with more than 20,000 followers. Join them for thoughtful true crime advocacy. Now celebrating their fifth season with 380 podcast episodes and more than ONE MILLION DOWNLOADS.

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Episodes

BONUS: Solving Cases with DNA, David Mittelman of Othram (Encore Part 1)

Join Mind Over Murder co-hosts Bill Thomas and Kristin Dilley for a bonus episode as we present an encore of an interview with David Mittelman, CEO of Othram, the Houston DNA lab that is breaking cold cases across the United States and Canada. This is Part 1. Othram's DNAsolves.com website featuring their newest cases: https://dnasolves.com/ New Article in Virginia Gazette: 35 Years Later, Victims’ Families in Colonial Parkway Murders Still Searching for Answers, Hope DNA Advances will Solve Cas...

Oct 07, 202145 minSeason 2Ep. 97

NEW: After Action Report on Savannah Crime Expo

Join Mind Over Murder co-hosts Bill Thomas and Kristin Dilley as we report on our recent trip to Savannah to attend the Savannah Crime Expo. New Article in Medium: The Colonial Parkway Murders — A Tale of Two Killers? By Quinn Zane https://medium.com/unburied/the-colonial-parkway-murders-a-tale-of-two-killers-1e8fda367a48 Savannah Crime Expo Information: https://savannahcrimeexpo.com/ Washington Post: "Crimes of Passion" https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/opinions/1997/08/15/crimes-of-passio...

Oct 04, 202148 minSeason 2Ep. 96

NEW: Is Patricia Cornwell's "All That Remains" Really the Colonial Parkway Murders? (Part 3)

Join Mind Over Murder co-hosts Bill Thomas and Kristin Dilley as we explore the still open question as to whether author Patricia Cornwell's 1992 bestseller "All That Remains" is really the thinly disguised story of the Colonial Parkway Murders. The book was written while Patricia Cornwell was working in the Commonwealth of Virginia's Chief Medical Examiner's Office and would have had access to the the real-life Colonial Parkway Murders reports. Lawsuits by Parkway family members were filed, but...

Sep 27, 202150 minSeason 2Ep. 95

NEW: Is True Crime Community Hindering the Gabby Petito Case?

Join Mind Over Murder co-hosts Bill Thomas and Kristin Dilley for a bonus episode as we discuss developments in the Gabby Petito case and try to answer whether the true crime community is helping or hindering the investigation. Medium: The Colonial Parkway Murders — A Tale of Two Killers? By Quinn Zane https://medium.com/unburied/the-colonial-parkway-murders-a-tale-of-two-killers-1e8fda367a48 New feature article in the Daily Beast: "Inside the Maddening Search for Virginia’s Colonial Parkway Ser...

Sep 24, 202145 minSeason 2Ep. 94

NEW: Is Patricia Cornwell's All That Remains" Really the Colonial Parkway Murders? (Part 2)

Join Mind Over Murder co-hosts Bill Thomas and Kristin Dilley as we explore the still open question as to whether author Patricia Cornwell's 1992 bestseller "All That Remains" is really the thinly disguised story of the Colonial Parkway Murders. The book was written while Patricia Cornwell was working in the Commonwealth of Virginia's Chief Medical Examiner's Office and would have had access to the the real-life Colonial Parkway Murders reports. Lawsuits by Parkway family members were filed, but...

Sep 20, 202150 minSeason 2Ep. 93

NEW: Is Patricia Cornwell's "All That Remains" Really the Colonial Parkway Murders? (Part 1)

Join Mind Over Murder co-hosts Bill Thomas and Kristin Dilley as we explore the still open question as to whether author Patricia Cornwell's 1992 bestseller "All That Remains" is really the thinly disguised story of the Colonial Parkway Murders. The book was written while Patricia Cornwell was working in the Commonwealth of Virginia's Chief Medical Examiner's Office and would have had access to the the real-life Colonial Parkway Murders reports. Lawsuits by Parkway family members were filed, but...

Sep 13, 202144 minSeason 2Ep. 92

NEW: Colonial Parkway Murders Listener Questions (Part 2)

Join Mind Over Murder co-hosts Bill Thomas and Kristin Dilley as we answer your new listener questions in the Colonial Parkway Murders, still unsolved after nearly 35 years. This is part 2. New Article in Medium: The Colonial Parkway Murders — A Tale of Two Killers? By Quinn Zane https://medium.com/unburied/the-colonial-parkway-murders-a-tale-of-two-killers-1e8fda367a48 New feature article in the Daily Beast: "Inside the Maddening Search for Virginia’s Colonial Parkway Serial Killer" https://www...

Sep 06, 202142 minSeason 2Ep. 91

NEW: Colonial Parkway Murders Listener Questions (Part 1)

Join Mind Over Murder co-hosts Bill Thomas and Kristin Dilley as we answer your new listener questions in the Colonial Parkway Murders, still unsolved after nearly 35 years. This is part 1. New Article in Medium: The Colonial Parkway Murders — A Tale of Two Killers? By Quinn Zane https://medium.com/unburied/the-colonial-parkway-murders-a-tale-of-two-killers-1e8fda367a48 New feature article in the Daily Beast: "Inside the Maddening Search for Virginia’s Colonial Parkway Serial Killer" https://www...

Aug 30, 202144 minSeason 2Ep. 90

NEW: Fred Atwell: Colonial Parkway Criminal or Con Man? (Part 2)

Join Mind Over Murder co-hosts Bill Thomas and Kristin Dilley as we discuss the mystery of the late Fred Atwell in the Colonial Parkway Murders. While Atwell did the Parkway families a great service as a whistle-blower in publicizing the leak of 78 highly graphic crime scene photos in the Colonial Parkway Murders, this retired Gloucester County Deputy Sheriff was also a criminal and a con man. Now more than 2 years after his death, questions remain about Fred Atwell's knowledge of the facts in t...

Aug 23, 202134 minSeason 2Ep. 89

NEW: Fred Atwell: Colonial Parkway Criminal or Con Man? (Part 1)

Join Mind Over Murder co-hosts Bill Thomas and Kristin Dilley as we discuss the mystery of the late Fred Atwell in the Colonial Parkway Murders. While Atwell did the Parkway families a great service as a whistle-blower in publicizing the leak of 78 highly graphic crime scene photos in the Colonial Parkway Murders, this retired Gloucester County Deputy Sheriff was also a criminal and a con man. Now more than 2 years after his death, questions remain about Fred Atwell's knowledge of the facts in t...

Aug 16, 202151 minSeason 2Ep. 88

NEW: Annamaria Phelps and Daniel Lauer, the last Colonial Parkway Murder?

Join Mind Over Murder co-hosts Bill Thomas and Kristin Dilley as they review the facts in the 1989 double homicide of Annamaria Phelps and Daniel Lauer, two young people murdered as the drove from their family homes in Amelia County, Virginia to a new life in Virginia Beach. Somehow their car was intercepted along Interstate 64 in New Kent County, Virginia and they disappeared. Their bodies were found at a hunt club off I-64 some 6 weeks later. What happened? Why is this case still unsolved more...

Aug 09, 202149 minSeason 2Ep. 87

NEW: Othram's David Mittelman: How Cutting Edge DNA is Breaking Cold Cases

Mind Over Murder co-hosts Bill Thomas and Kristin Dilley interview David Mittelman, CEO of Othram, a cutting edge DNA lab in the Woodlands, Texas, which is breaking cold cases across the United States and Canada. New feature article in the Daily Beast: "Inside the Maddening Search for Virginia’s Colonial Parkway Serial Killer" https://www.thedailybeast.com/what-happened-to-cathleen-thomas-and-rebecca-dowski-inside-the-hunt-for-the-colonial-parkway-killer Citizens! Check out our new line of "Mind...

Aug 02, 202155 minSeason 2Ep. 86

NEW: Robin Edwards and David Knobling in Colonial Parkway Murders (Part 2)

Mind Over Murder co-hosts Bill Thomas and Kristin Dilley review new information from interviews with family members Janette Edwards Santiago and Judy Knobling in the second of the Colonial Parkway Murders, the 1987 double homicide of Robin Edwards and David Knobling. Is this killing related to the other Colonial Parkway Murders? Why is this case unsolved after nearly 34 years? Can advanced forensics be used to solve this double murder? New feature article in the Daily Beast: "Inside the Maddenin...

Jul 26, 202142 minSeason 2Ep. 85

Bonus: True Crime Media: Recommended Podcasts and TV Shows

Mind Over Murder co-hosts Bill Thomas and Kristin Dilley offer a bonus episode: True Crime Media: Our Recommended Podcasts and TV Shows Algorithm Podcast: https://www.iheart.com/podcast/1119-algorithm-83051915/ Confronting OJ Podcast: https://wondery.com/shows/confronting/episode/5970-bonus-the-defenses-defense/ Confronting Columbine Podcast https://wondery.com/shows/confronting/episode/5970-bonus-greg/ I'll Be Gone in the Dark (HBO Series) https://www.hbo.com/ill-be-gone-in-the-dark Bosch (Amaz...

Jul 22, 202146 minSeason 2Ep. 84

David Knobling, Colonial Parkway Murders Victim: His Mother Remembers

Mind Over Murder co-hosts Bill Thomas and Kristin Dilley are joined by Judy Knobling, mother of murder victim David Knobling as they discuss the second of the Colonial Parkway Murders, the 1987 double homicide of Robin Edwards and David Knobling. Is this killing the second in a serial murder, or an tragic independent event? Why is this case unsolved after nearly 34 years? Can advanced forensics be used to solve this double murder? Citizens! Check out our new line of "Mind Over Murder" t-shirts a...

Jul 19, 202144 minSeason 2Ep. 83

Robin Edwards, Colonial Parkway Murders Victim: Her Sister Remembers

Mind Over Murder co-hosts Bill Thomas and Kristin Dilley are joined by Robin Edwards' sister Janette Edwards Santiago as they discuss the second of the Colonial Parkway Murders, the 1987 double homicide of Robin Edwards and David Knobling. Is this killing the second in a serial murder, or an tragic independent event? Why is this case unsolved after nearly 34 years? Can advanced forensics be used to solve this double murder? Citizens! Check out our new line of "Mind Over Murder" t-shirts and othe...

Jul 12, 202140 minSeason 2Ep. 82

BONUS: True Crime News: Bill Cosby and Slenderman Outrage

Join co-hosts Bill Thomas and Kristin Dilley for this bonus episode of Mind Over Murder's "True Crime News." This week, true crime outrage as convicted serial rapist Bill Cosby is released from prison thanks to another sweetheart deal from a prosecutor (jeffrey Epstein, anyone?), and one of the two teenage perpetrators in the Slender Man case gets out of a mental health facility after serving on 3.5 years-- after trying to stab her 12 year old classmate to death. NPR: "Questions Linger After Bil...

Jul 08, 202132 minSeason 2Ep. 81

NEW: Robin Edwards and David Knobling in Colonial Parkway Murders (Part 1)

Join Mind Over Murder co-hosts Bill Thomas and Kristin Dilley as they discuss the second of the Colonial Parkway Murders, the 1987 double homicide of Robin Edwards and David Knobling. Is this killing the second in a serial murder, or an tragic independent event? Why is this case unsolved after nearly 34 years? Citizens! Check out our new line of "Mind Over Murder" t-shirts and other good stuff ! https://www.teepublic.com/stores/mind-over-murder-podcast?ref_id=23885 Washington Post Op-Ed Piece by...

Jul 05, 202146 minSeason 2Ep. 80

Prosecutor Loni Coombs on CrimeCon Colonial Parkway Murders Panel

Go behind the scenes with Loni Coombs, Bill Thomas and Kristin Dilley at the Colonial Parkway Murders panel at CrimeCon true crime convention just completed in Austin, Texas. They discuss Loni's career as a prosecutor in Los Angeles, her work as television host and investigator and compare notes on the on the CrimeCon panel. Citizens! Check out our new line of "Mind Over Murder" t-shirts and other good stuff ! https://www.teepublic.com/stores/mind-over-murder-podcast?ref_id=23885 New Story on Ox...

Jun 28, 202146 minSeason 2Ep. 79

Behind the Scenes at CrimeCon Colonial Parkway Murders Panel

Go behind the scenes with Bill Thomas and Kristin Dilley at the Colonial Parkway Murders panel at CrimeCon 2021 true crime convention just completed in Austin, Texas. Bill attended in person and spoke on a panel on the Colonial Parkway Murders as covered in the "Lovers Lane Murders" limited television series on the Oxygen Network, and Kristin attended CrimeCon virtually. They compare notes on the experience and offer their thoughts as the panel unfolded. Citizens! Check out our new line of "Mind...

Jun 21, 202149 minSeason 2Ep. 78

Our CrimeCon 2021 Review

Mind Over Murder co-hosts Kristin Dilley and Bill Thomas review the CrimeCon 2021 true crime convention just completed in Austin, Texas. Bill attended in person and spoke on a panel on the Colonial Parkway Murders as covered in the "Lovers Lane Murders" limited television series on the Oxygen Network, and Kristin attended CrimeCon virtually. They compare notes on favorite panels, best speakers and how the CrimeCon experience compares with their two previous CrimeCon experiences in Nashville (201...

Jun 14, 202146 minSeason 2Ep. 77

FBI Profiler James Fitzgerald Talks Unabomber and The Fitz Files

In this episode, Mind Over Murder co-hosts Kristin Dilley and Bill Thomas talk with lgendary former FBI Profiler James R. Fitzgerald about his new audio-book, "The Fitz Files" where he gives you the inside story on the "Manhunt: Unabomber" television series developed along with insights into his work on the Unabomber case and his success as an FBI profiler who helped develop the use of linguistics in solving major cases. Citizens! Check out our new line of "Mind Over Murder" t-shirts and other g...

Jun 07, 202148 minSeason 2Ep. 76

Bonus: Colonial Parkway Murders Questions Answered (Part 4)

Welcome to this BONUS Episode of "Mind Over Murder." In this episode, co-hosts Kristin Dilley and Bill Thomas answer your questions people who have inserted themselves iinto the Colonial Parkway Murders investigation, including Ron Little of Liberty Security, former Gloucester County Deputy Sheriff and con man Fred Atwell and others. All questions are from our social media feeds, primarily from "Colonial Parkway Murders" and "Mind Over Murder" pages on Facebook. If you would like to ask us a que...

Jun 03, 202141 minSeason 2Ep. 75

Ron Little Outs Himself as Suspect in Colonial Parkway Murders

Explore the curious case of Ron Little, likely co-owner of Liberty Security (later Advance Security), a small security company in Virginia with Mind Over Murder co-hosts Kristin Dilley and Bill Thomas. Ron Little actually outed himself a murder suspect in the Colonial Parkway Murders and other unsolved murders in a widely distributed letter in 1989, shortly before Little was deported back to his native New Zealand by the INS. Why would someone write such a bizarre letter? Citizens! Check out our...

May 31, 202148 minSeason 2Ep. 74

The Mystery of Liberty Security and the Colonial Parkway Murders

Mind Over Murder co-hosts Kristin Dilley and Bill Thomas explore the mystery of a possible connection of a small security company, Liberty Security, and the unsolved Colonial Parkway Murders in Virginia. Liberty Security, owned by Jon Knight Hawthorne, changed its name to Advance Security after a possible straw-man purchase by Ron Little. Little was then deported back to New Zealand by the INS after publicly outing himself as a murder suspect in the Colonial Parkway Murders. A strange and twiste...

May 24, 202139 minSeason 2Ep. 73

Chris Call and Joyce Call Canada on Disappearance of Keith Call and Cassandra Hailey (Part 2)

Mind Over Murder co-hosts Kristin Dilley and Bill Thomas explore the disappearance of Keith Call and Cassandra "Sandy" Hailey as part of the Colonial Parkway Murders with Joyce Call Canada and Chris Call, sister and brother of Keith Call. This is Part 2 of 2 episodes with Joyce and Chris. Citizens! Check out our new line of "Mind Over Murder" t-shirts and other good stuff ! https://www.teepublic.com/stores/mind-over-murder-podcast?ref_id=23885 New York Times: "To Solve 3 Cold Cases, This Small C...

May 17, 202147 minSeason 2Ep. 72

Chris Call and Joyce Call Canada on Disappearance of Keith Call and Cassandra Hailey (Part 1)

"Mind Over Murder" co-hosts Kristin Dilley and Bill Thomas explore the disappearance of Keith Call and Cassandra "Sandy" Hailey as part of the Colonial Parkway Murders with Joyce Call Canada and Chris Call, sister and brother of Keith Call. This is Part 1 of 2 episodes with Joyce and Chris. Citizens! Check out our new line of "Mind Over Murder" t-shirts and other good stuff ! https://www.teepublic.com/stores/mind-over-murder-podcast?ref_id=23885 New York Times: "To Solve 3 Cold Cases, This Small...

May 10, 202150 minSeason 2Ep. 71

Keith Call and Cassandra Hailey: Colonial Parkway Disappearance or Murder?

Welcome to "Mind Over Murder." In this episode, co-hosts Kristin Dilley and Bill Thomas discuss the disappearance of Keith Call and Cassandra "Sandy" Hailey as part of the Colonial Parkway Murders. This episode with be followed with a two-part interview with Joyce Call Canada and Chris Call, siblings of Keith Call. Citizens! Check out our new line of "Mind Over Murder" t-shirts and other good stuff ! https://www.teepublic.com/stores/mind-over-murder-podcast?ref_id=23885 You can help solve a cold...

May 03, 202144 minSeason 2Ep. 70

Othram's David Mittelman: DNA Solves Cases (Part 2)

Welcome to "Mind Over Murder." In this episode, co-hosts Kristin Dilley and Bill Thomas talk with David Mittelman, CEO of Othram, a Texas-based DNA lab that is solving missing person and murder cases across North America using their unique Forensic-Grade Genomic Sequencing method. This is part 2 of 2 episodes with David Mittelman. Learn more at https://dnasolves.com/ Citizens! Check out our new line of "Mind Over Murder" t-shirts and other good stuff ! https://www.teepublic.com/stores/mind-over-...

Apr 26, 202155 minSeason 2Ep. 69

Othram's David Mittelman: DNA Solves Cases (Part 1)

Welcome to "Mind Over Murder." In this episode, co-hosts Kristin Dilley and Bill Thomas talk with David Mittelman, CEO of Othram, a Texas-based DNA lab that is solving missing person and murder cases across North America using their unique Forensic-Grade Genomic Sequencing method. This is part 1 of 2 episodes with David Mittelman. Learn more at https://dnasolves.com/ Citizens! Check out our new line of "Mind Over Murder" t-shirts and other good stuff ! https://www.teepublic.com/stores/mind-over-...

Apr 19, 202154 minSeason 2Ep. 68
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