S5 182. Josh Monday - Biblical Cosmology

Welcome to the Millennial Mustard Seed podcast. Good afternoon. My name is Josh Monday. I'm from the Josh Monday Christian and Conspiracy Podcast. I also have a second show called Sunday Service. It's available on Colt Conspiracy podcast. And I just want to welcome you guys to the Mustard Seed podcast. Sorry, I don't have the, is it the Mustard Seed podcast? I'm sorry. Millennial mustard seed. All right, the Millennial Mustard Seed podcast. I'm sorry, guys. I apologize.

I kind of butchered that I didn't have it written down before I started. So anyways, welcome to the podcast and thank you Rod for having me on the show. I really appreciate you. If you guys want to check out my YouTube it's Josh Monday music and podcast and my show that's, you know, my normal show is Josh Monday Christian Conspiracy podcast. You can see it on audio platforms and on on YouTube. All right, Josh, it's an honor

to be here with you, man. I think one of the coolest things about this podcast, well, I shouldn't say it like that, but at the end of each show, in the fading out of the music, I put little clips of behind the scenes conversations and I've had a lot of people over the years that butcher the name of the show. It's kind of hilarious, actually. It's kind of become a theme because when God gave me the name of the show, it's a tongue

twister. It's a mouthful, and you know, I had to go with it. But man, it's an honor to be here with you. You host two different shows. You got a YouTube channel. I found you through Enoch Futures from the Rundown of our reality. He's a good friend of the show over here. He's actually a producer and a collaborator continually with me. And then I just found out we have a mutual friend, Dave Beverly. Yes, yeah, Dave Beverly is super cool.

Yeah, I've had him on the show. I had some round tables with him on Biblical cosmology, Genesis 6 and I had him on a few different times. You know, he's a ex NASA employee. So it kind of helps with the exposing the, the lies, you know, So it really, it really helps out. So he's a he's a great guy. I love that guy. Shout out to to Dave. I know he's probably going to hear this. So David Beverly, shout out to you brother.

I love you bro. Yeah, Dave is a continued show and guest here working on the documentary that he's starring in with Doctor Laura Sanger. So we're hoping to get that out of out to the public by the end of the year here. And yeah, he's been a great, you know, just resource and friend in the Lord behind the scenes. So definitely big shout out to Dave Beverly. Now, Josh, you know kind of what

I want to talk about with you. You had mentioned biblical cosmology and and so I'm just going to real quick lay down a foundation. I've not covered extensively Flat Earth versus globe earth or any of these things. Actually dropped an episode called Torodial Earth with Dan Duvall right at the same time that pastor, Oh geez, was it the two pastors did that? That Oh, yeah. Pastor Dean. Pastor Dean Odel. Odel. Yeah. And. And Greg Locke and I had Greg Locke scheduled to come on the podcast.

You know, literally, I dropped that episode complete. They dropped me. Yeah. I didn't get a message back because I did it a day before that debate came out. Me and Dan just wanted to, you know, gently bring up scriptures that a lot of people leave out when talking about biblical cosmology. I feel like the it's more of an argument, less than let's let the word of God be superlative. Let's let it be supreme and

authoritative. And So what I appreciate about what I'm understanding that you do is you're going to thoroughly go through some scriptures and say, listen, this is what biblical cosmology shows us. This is what we can expect from the creators mouth himself. Yeah, of course. Yeah. Because how did you get there though, dude? Like like how did you get to that point? What does the journey look like? I know. And also you spent some time in the service. I want to honor you for that as

well. Thank you. Yeah, military service. I, I, I served six years and then 2, two years inactive. I did deploy to Kuwait fueling helicopters and I did water treatment as well for the military. So that was that was good. How I got to this point is episode #5 I did a show on biblical cosmology. I just like wanted to, to show the fake moon landing and biblical cosmology. So I just went through and basically was a flatter from a

biblical respective episode. And I did that first, found out that it was biblical, and then I had Dave Weiss on a couple episodes after that. I was like episode like 10 and he kind of showed me the scientific side of this. And I just kind of started studying from there and been on, man, I've probably been on 50 shows or something as a guest doing the biblical cosmology sermon I'm going to do. And I also have debated people on whether the Bible teaches

cosmology. I've debated people on flat versus globe biblically. And most of the time, I mean, when you when you debate anybody on flat versus globe biblically, they never bring up Bible verses. What they do is they just bring up all science the whole time.

So which is very interesting. But yeah, so with this sermon, what I like to do first is kind of go over some verses so that people understand like the the lens that I'm looking at the Bible through, especially after finding this out, because this is like a floodgate when this kind of gets open where you're like, OK, now I want to look at the Bible at a different lens. Like let all scripture, you know, all scriptures inspired by God. Once you find that out, you're

like, oh, okay. And then also if you go to Numbers 12 verses 4 through 8, it talks about the Lord coming to Aaron and Miriam saying that I come to prophets and visions and dreams, but when I come to Moses, I speak to him face to face. And the King James that says mouth to mouth. So I think once you find that out also I go to Proverbs 35 through 6, it says every word of

God is pure. He is a shield to those who put their trust in Him. Do not add to his word, lest he rebuke you and you be found a liar. So if I'm speaking to someone about biblical cosmology and I asked him a certain verse where it says that the earth is fixed and immovable, what a lot of people that are scientific would say is, well, it's fixed and immovable in its orbit. So that is the definition of adding to the scriptures instead of just letting the Scripture speak for itself, right?

So that's just a an example. Also, I have a few other verses I like to go through. And first of all, like we got to understand that God, he cannot lie, right? It says it's in Titus 1-2, God cannot lie. Hebrews 11/6 says it's impossible for God to lie,

right? So when I go through the book of Genesis, you got to understand that that's a first hand account from the Most High. When it comes to the creation story, when it comes to the flood, when it comes to Sodom and Gomorrah, the Tower of Babel, all that stuff is first hand accounts from God because Moses was not alive during that

time. So once I start going over this stuff, you'll understand Also in the book of Job or the book of Isaiah, what solidifies those is it says that God comes to these prophets and visions and dreams. So anything that you're hearing from the book of Ezekiel, that's a vision, Jeremiah, Isaiah, anything like that, You know that the vision actually came from God himself, right? So before I used to think visions were more like, oh, it's a vision, I can't take it as

serious. But then once I found out that verse, I was like, wow, I can literally take the visions are coming straight from God. So I have to take those visions serious now, you know, if that makes sense. Yeah, I mean, the Bible also talks about the spirit of prophecy is the Lord Jesus Christ.

When we look at Revelation, it's the details, the unraveling of Jesus. You know, it's all interwebbed together and I love that framework because if we're going to take our Bible seriously, we need to be able to trust that God is communicating. And yeah, people say this is the backlash that I'll get sometimes. Josh, there's 200 formats of speech in the Bible. Is it parabolic? Is it, you know, like God

doesn't have wings. So in Proverbs when it says rest under the wings of the Omaha and it's like, OK, it's figurative for but the context is so important. So I believe the foundations when God is saying this is how I established this is the course that I have set for the heavenly luminaries. I take that as verbatim. You know, I always say, I believe the Bible is literal unless it cannot be taken literal.

And then you continue to go through context prayerfully and say how how are you laying this out? God, what are you trying to communicate here? Because you use imagery you like, he's a creator of all

things. So why would we limit him to like a nonsensical basic level of communication where where I mean, the kids can get it, but it also can blow the mind of people like ex NASA employees like Dave Beverly, who calibrates, you know, at McMurdo Sound, Antarctica, some of the most advanced technology that that is laid on the foundations

that gets used in our earth. So have incredible people and having the guys next door like me and you come to these conclusions, it's showing the supremacy of the word of God. And every high and lofty thought has to be cast down before every imagination has to be brought low. So you know, I love that you're coming into this thing swinging with scripture because that is the ultimate authority that I

live my life by now. I wish more people would agree and I feel like it it has the opportunity to spread like wildfire. But OK, so this is how you get to this belief. Now, you said you've been on like 50 different shows. You kind of even do debating on on this topic. So let's talk about the the structure. What does biblical cosmology actually look like? It's not a globe. Describe it for us. OK, so one more verse.

I want to go over a quick So faith cometh by hearing and hearing by the word of God. So Romans 10/17. I like people to know that because what kind of faith is being produced? If you hear the word of God, yet you do not believe it. Also, when it comes to the spiritual armor that we have, what is it? What do we need for the defensive weapon to dodge the walls of the devil? We need to shield the faith. So what God, what the devil wants to do is the devil's going

to try to attack your faith? It's also impossible to please God without faith. Hebrews 11 so we need to understand that we need to understand that the devil is going to attack your faith and the I'm sorry when I said it's impossible for God to lie, that's actually Hebrew 618I apologize. Sometimes my mind is going, but so the devil is going to try to attack your faith.

If you got this little tiny shield and then you barely know the word of God, you know, it's going to be very hard for you to defend, you know. So what I believe happens before we get into that, because I like to get into what science says first and then tell you what the scripture says. So I could kind of, that's exactly what I do on debates and I like to do that here as well. But what we got to understand is the devil's going to put a block wall between you and the

scriptures. And the way that he does that is when you come into school at the age of four or the age of they're trying to even go to the age of three now immediately you're getting hit with the globe, you're getting hit with all this different things. And by the time you hit 12th grade, you have evolution, you have The Big Bang theory, and you have the globe already already down, you know, so. So I believe that they're putting block walls between you

and the scriptures. So by the time you pick up the scriptures, you're like, this is allegorical, like you were talking about earlier. This is all poetry. I can't take this serious. But The funny thing is with the scriptures is they'll take things serious like in the in the book of Proverbs or the, or the the Psalms, when it talks about like Jesus is, you know, prophecies about Jesus or prophecies about this, they'll take that literal.

But when it comes to other ones, they're like, Oh, I can't take that literal. So it's just funny how they kind of go back and forth. But let's go over for your audience what science says first, so you could kind of see how different it is from what the Bible says, so that we could kind of give you a correlation here. So First off, they say that Earth is at a 23.4° axis, right? It's spinning at 1000 miles an hour, 1014 at the equator.

It says that it's orbiting the sun at 66,600 miles an hour. So what we got to understand is the fastest, fastest bullet actually travels at 1800 miles an hour. So they say they were orbiting the sun 30 times faster than a bullet. Now, when I was in school, all they taught me was that the sun was stationary and that and that the planets go around the sun. That's what I was taught when I was a kid. So I never knew this fact or this scientific pseudoscience they say is a fact.

They say that the they actually say that the the sun is moving at 440,000 miles an hour or 550,000 miles an hour, two different, two different speeds. When I looked it up and it's moving and we have the earth chasing it at 66,600 miles an hour. And so it's moving 550,000 miles an hour as we chase the sun at 66,600 miles an hour. We have all that going on. The moon is supposedly orbiting us at 2200 miles an hour, so that's actually faster than a bullet, right? So we have that going on.

And then also, if you look at the closest star, it's going to be called Alpha Centauri. It's actually 4.4 light years away. If you look up what a light year is, it's actually 6 trillion miles. So if you take 6 trillion * 4.4, it's actually 24 trillion miles away is what they say. Now The funny thing is in the Bible it says that God created the moon, sun and the stars, you know, for times, for signs, for seasons and to light up the

earth. So if I was going to light up my kitchen, why am I going to put the, the, the lights in my kitchen, you know, 15 miles in the sky? I'm not going to, I'm probably try to bring them a little bit closer and, and you know, it, it would make sense, right? I probably wouldn't put them 24 trillion miles away or 93,000,000 miles away like the sun they say is. And you know, it's just, it's just interesting how that goes. But any questions on anything that about the science portion

that I went over? No, yeah, that's that's pretty good. Yeah. So that way you guys kind of get an idea of what they're saying. And then also there's a the scientific Trinity, which I just talked about where they have The Big Bang theory, which was George Lamontre. He's a Belgian cosmologist, Catholic priest, Jesuit trained, right. Most of the most of the cosmologist in, you know, in the Catholic Church are going to be Jesuits, right?

Which so if you're a conspiracy theorist in any way, as soon as you hear Jesuit or Freemason, then you should have a red flag going up right away. So this guy was saying that roughly 13.8 billion years ago, you know the size of a pin exploded and then through gravity 13.6 billion years ago the stars were formed. And then they say 4.6 billion years ago the sun was formed and then 4.5 billion years ago the

earth was formed. Now this is kind of funny coming from a Catholic priest because in the Bible it actually says that the earth came first. Then it says on, you know, on day three, basically the, the continents were formed and on day four, that's when the moon, sun and the stars were created. So totally inverted as far as the timeline. Because if you look at what the Bible says, if you track it all way back to Adam, we're looking more like 6600 years, 6500

years. If you go to the this Big Bang cosmology, you got 13.8 billion years. So it's totally inverted and opposite of what the Bible is teaching as far as what they want to do. They want to have the backdrop stars, then they want to have this the sun, this giant object so that they have gravity forming. So that way everything that forms after that is orbiting the sun.

So that's what they're trying to do there, you know, so, but if you look at the Bible, it's totally inverted as far as when everything was created. And also in the Bible, the sun and the and the stars are two different things. But when it comes to science, they say that the sun and the stars are the same things. So I think that's pretty interesting as well. And, and then the other one that's part of this scientific Trinity is going to be

evolution. Now, evolution was actually started by Charles Darwin's grandfather and his grandfather's a 33° Freemason. He's the one that started doing this research. He took it, tried to hand it to his son. His son was a preacher. He said, I'm not having nothing to do with that. So we handed it to his grandson, Charles Darwin. And he's the one that took that information and started to run with it and and, you know, created the book and all that stuff. So it's coming from a 33° Mason.

So we got to understand that. All right, so those billions of years are needed for evolution to be true, you know, So that's why they have all these years added on to it. And so that's coming from a Freemason. So we have that now. We have one thing coming from a Jesuit, one thing coming from a Freemason. So let's see what the last thing on this list is. The last thing on this list is going to be the the Copernicus

heliocentric model, right? First off, we got to understand what heliocentric is. We have to break that word down. South Helios is a Greek God centric means centered. So you have a sun God centered solar system, right? And soul is also a God and Native Americans, Latin America soul is a God. So we have a solar system, a sun God system, like literally. So as a Christian, if you would break the words down like most people don't do, now you have something that's a little different, man.

You're like, OK, now. Now this is bringing religion into it, which they act like it's not a religion at all, even

if you do bring it up to them. But even the wordage think about that heliocentric and Helios is actually a lot of people feel like that is actually Satan centered, you know, not just the sun God. Now it's let me just read you guys real quick before I ask you any like if you have any questions, let me just read you Copernicus's writing so you understand what I'm talking about that this is not just scientific theories or pseudoscience.

This is literally a religion. Let's let's see what it says. It says in the midst of all sits the sun enthroned in the most beautiful temple. Could we place this luminary in any better position from which he can illuminate the whole at once? He is rightly called the lamp. Now let's pause there. He's calling him the lamp. Now what is also called the lamp in the Bible, if you go over to Revelation 22, it says that Jesus will be the lamp is going

to light up the earth. We no longer need the sun. But what Copernicus is doing here is he's placing the lamp enthroned in the most beautiful place in the temple. That's what he's saying about the sun. Now this is more like a God than a son to me so far. He says the mind, the rulers of the universe, Hermes Transgestus names him the visible God. Electric calls him the all

seeing. Now that's all seeing is kind of like, oh, now we're getting into like Illuminati type stuff, the all seeing eye and all that stuff. And then it says, so the sun sits as upon a royal throne ruling his children. The planets would circle around him. The Earth has the moon at her service, as Aristotle says on his animals. The moon has the closest relationship with the Earth. Meanwhile, the earth conceived by the sun and becomes pregnant

with the annual rebirth. You understand, like this is all, this is more like religious speak. This is not like, hey, I'm scientific and, and I and I have this, you know, it, it is, it is like more like a theory anyways, but you know, it, it's, it kind of becomes more religious. So I just want people to realize that especially if you're atheist and you're trying to go against somebody, this is the type of talk that they had for for these luminaries, you know?

Any thoughts, bro? Yeah, well, I mean, you know, I have thoughts racing through my mind. You know, I've heard this stuff before. And what happens is the biblical filter in me is screening and testing the spirit of these things, the spirit of this age. And so when you get to this point, and I know many listeners over here understand this, Josh, that your framework is in alignment with the word of God, you're you're beyond just

drinking the milk. You're starting to chew the meat, as Hebrew says, getting into the deep things and starting to reason. Come, let us reason together right and all of this stuff when you when you get educated, right, because the Bible says in all of your getting's, get knowledge, get understanding and proverbs. It also says be wise as a serpent, be as harmless as a dove in the New Testament, right.

It also, and God is telling us to be as wise as the Nahash from Genesis three, that that's a high calling. I believe that requires the Ruach, the Holy Spirit to be able to even do that. I don't think it's the mind of man. I think it's washing our mind in the word of God being transformed, renewing our mind,

right? So what you're bringing up all of this scientific fact and all of this heliocentric model, which by the way, Josh, I did not know that's what heliocentric means, but you're saying stuff and it's clicking. I'm like, Oh yeah, because I'm seeing the framework of the enemy and I'm going, this is the enemy's.

He's running the race to try to mimic God, to be omniscient, to be omnipresent, right, To lift up his ideology above the the shamayims or Hashemayim, as Dave would say, right, The heavens where God is seated. So he's casting a lie into the realm that is the habitation of the most High according to the word of God and letting the ideologies of man lead people straight. So all that framework is is is very pantheonistic or whatever you want to call this, right?

It's it's lofty. I believe the Bible when it says do not lend your, your ear to the, the the wives tales, right? These these demonic voices. I think the models of the world today is what it's insinuating. But people have the audacity, Josh, to say it's a fringe Christian who's listening to the

doctrine of demons. But I think what we're doing right, and it's growing by the grace of God, because we've been born for such a time as this is growing by the grace of God for us to be able to actually understand these things and come before the throne and say, God, your word is it. It's going to endure forever. Everything else will disappear, but your word will endure. So if I'm building and I'm casting not away my confidence on your word, there's a great

reward. So that that's my reflection on everything that you just said. I see what the enemy's doing. We're compartmentalizing the moves of the enemy, excommunicating the the the demonic systems of the enemy in order to become a prepared bride. And and I'm seeing your effort at that. So you know, yes. So to be collabing with you here. Deuteronomy 419 says, and take heed lest you lift up your eyes to heaven.

When you see the sun, the moon, and the stars, all the hosts of heaven, you'll feel driven to worship them and serve them, which the Lord your God has given to all the people under the whole heaven as a heritage. So it's warning you not to worship the moon, sun, and the stars. Like that's literally in Deuteronomy. And that's what they're doing. What you see all these documentaries about the universe and all this is beautiful and then this and it's all like artist depiction.

It's not even real, but they're like flying by Jupiter. Like look at Jupiter, it's so beautiful. It's massive, it's huge. It's got this, it's got this storm has been there for 90 billion years, whatever, you know what I mean? So it's just all about worship. And, and you find out that when you get into these debates with these people, literally it's hard to peel that back that

onion for them. They're like, they're stuck, even if they're Christian and they, they try to come and I'm like literally going verse by verse by verse by verse, like it's you just still can't peel back then. And but it's all about grace And, and it's like, hey, it's a, it's all good. All I'm trying to do really is show, show people certain things. But you know, it's, it's, you could see that it's really deeply ingrained And, and it's, you know, there's nothing new

under the sun. So what happens is an Ecclesiastia. It says that. And that's what's going on, because if you go to Nimrod, if you go to Isis, Osiris, you go to Apollo, you go to all these different sun gods, Mithra, these are all sun gods, right? And literally that's what it's about. It's about worshipping the sun, the same thing that God says not to do in Deuteronomy. So the devil, he's just very crafty, you know, So it's, it's the same thing that we're

dealing with. And also if you go to NASA as well, like if you go to that, that word NASA, it's called Nisha in the Hebrew. It is it's Genesis 317. It's basically when, when, when Eve got beguiled by Satan. If you've clicked that in the strong St. coordinates, it actually says NASA, NASA. So I think that's really interesting. People need to understand you're getting beguiled. And also, I mean, we get root understandings for nauseous from that, which means to be overcome

or overtaken. I've looked into that. That's very provocative because we think if you get nauseous, it's it's an onset. It just comes upon you because Adam was not beguiled or deceived, though he stood. Yeah. Anyway, we're not. Yeah, I'm. I'm rocking with you on that. That's very interesting. It, it really is. And people will go NASA, they don't care about the Hebrew. They don't. But dude, it's, it's like it's not, we're not like we don't wrestle against flesh and blood.

We're wrestling against principalities of evil, right? It says worldly governors, if you go back to the Geneva Bible. So we're not only wrestling against flesh and blood, but principalities of evil. So when you try to tell me it's not, it's not spiritual, everything that we deal with, if it is spiritual, no matter what you think, and, and, and the, the devil is the father of lies, right? So he's going to, whether he could give you 90% truth, 10% lie or 100% lie, it doesn't matter.

He just wants to be able to, he wants to be able to poison the well. And that's what's happening, you know, so I, I'm seeing it really with, with, you know, a lot with NASA and all that. And, and when I'm debating these different people, you know, but all love, like I said, though, you know, but so let's, let's go to what the Bible says now. So, so imagine Moses, he's on Mount Sinai for 40 days and 40 nights speaking to God face to face, right? So he's downloading this information.

God's teaching him the law. He's teaching him how he created the heavens and the earth. And Moses is writing it even says in, I think it says in, in, in the Torah. I can't remember where it's at. I think it's Exodus. It says that that that Moses wrote down everything God said, right. So we got to understand that he's he's downloading this information. And if God was talking to us, are we really going to like say, oh, thanks God for your information, but let me just

write my own thing. No, he's going to understand what God is saying. And the argument that a lot of people have is that the book of Genesis was talked to, taught, taught to Moses this way because he's not able to understand that the the science of today. But what I will tell you right now is he had a, a blank slate. And also what I'll tell you is that God cannot lie, right? It says in Titus 1/2 that he cannot lie. It says in Hebrews that it's

impossible for God to lie. And it also says that he is not less a man in Deuteronomy that he should lie. And then also says in Romans 3-4, let God be true and every man a liar, right? So we got to understand this. So let's let's let's look at the, the the lens of that going into the book of Genesis and see what it says. So we got Genesis one verse one. It says in the beginning, Elohim or God created the Shamayim and the Eret, which is the earth and the earth was without form and void.

So the continents were not formed yet. That doesn't happen until day three. It says the darkness is upon the face of the deep. The deep is the abuso that is going to be water. And it says and, and, and the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters. So day one you have he created light, separated light from the darkness. And day one was done. Now day 2, God creates the firmament, right? And he separated the waters from the waters. So now we have water.

And then this firmament created where He separated the waters from the waters. Now that word is rakia. It says in the strongest concordance that it's extended surface and in parentheses it says solid, it's expanse firmament, expanse, flattest base support firmament of vault, dependent supporting waters above and below. That it says considered by Hebrews as solid supporting the

waters above. So the reason why they think that is because of Genesis 18 where it says, I'll give you guys what it says in the CJB real quick. The CJB is the complete Jewish Bible. I, I go through the King James, I go through all different versions. And when when I saw this version, I'm like, wow, they try to stay too true to the Hebrew and it says here it says God said, let there be a Dome in the

middle of the water. Instead of saying firmament, they say Dome, let it divide the water from the water. God made the Dome and divided the water Under the Dome from the water above the Dome. And it was so. And God called the Dome sky. And the King James and all the other versions says God called the Dome heaven, right? So if you think about it so far, you have God separating the light from the darkness. It says that in the beginning God created the heavens and the earth.

You can either take that as a title statement like some people do. I take it as God created the heavens and the earth. He created where his throne is located and he created where the moon, sun and the stars were going to be located. And when it says the earth, it doesn't mean like the globe. It could mean dirt. It can mean territory or laid the foundations. I personally believe you laid the foundations right here. But you know, that's kind of conjecture.

Depends. Some people, you know, they debate that often, but so I have that going on. So day 2, you have the firmament being created. So you have a solid Dome placed over, I believe, the foundations of the earth. That's what I believe is happening right there. Day three, God created the oceans, the dry land, which is the continents, plants and vegetation. So you have the dry land, and God called the dry land earth, right? So before what was earth called? I think that earth was

foundations. That's what I believe it was called. Now he's calling the dry land earth, right? So which is the continents now? Day 4, God created the moon, sun and the stars also. Okay, so we got to understand that. So now it wasn't until day four God created the moon, sun of the stars, right? So the very interesting thing about that is he said he created the greater light to rule the day, which is the sun, the lesser light to rule the night, which is the moon. So 2 great lights, right?

Not, not one reflecting off the other. He created the the sun and the moon, 2 great lights. And, and like I said earlier, he created them for signs, for seasons, for times, for years, and also to light up the earth. So he created these things to light up the earth. He didn't create these things and he placed them in the firmament. That's another thing we got to understand. So they're going to be under the firmament, right? So inside the firmament, that's

what that means. So what I got, we got understand is he made him to light up the Earth. Now an interesting thing is when you go to the Book of Revelation, you have all the stars falling to the Earth, right? So how does that make sense in a heliocentric model? It doesn't. But if you have a firmament with all the moon and the stars in the firmament, right, and the firmament is connected to the Earth, then all the stars or luminaries can fall to the Earth. There's no problem with that.

So that's what I like to connect to this first because it's telling you right there that all the moons and the stars are in the in the firmament. Any questions on this so far bro? No, yeah, I'm good with it. I'm tracking with you. I'm just opening the coordinates and looking at root words and just. Oh yeah, that's good to do, bro. I do that. I do that a lot. Of kind of following along with you checking some stuff out. Perfect.

Yep, I do that too. When, when, when I have a guest on trying to trying to find out the the deeper meaning to to what we're talking about. So now, so in the heliocentric model, you would need the sun first, you know, then the earth and then the, the, the planets are, they're called wandering stars in the Bible, right? First off, we got to understand that, that in the Bible, the earth is fixed and immovable,

right? And, and, and make sense on the model that I'm talking about, fixed and immovable would be like the basement is the earth. It, it's stationary. You have the firmament and then you have the moon, sun of the stars in the firmament motion and the, excuse me, and the stars moving, not the earth. It's fixed and immovable. We'll go over a couple verses here.

Zechariah 111 says, And they answered the Angel of the Lord that stood among the Myrtle trees, and said, We have walked to and fro through the earth, and behold, all the earth sitteth still and is at rest. First Chronicles 1630 trembled before him all the earth. The world is also firmly established. It shall not be moved. We have Psalms 93.1 the Lord reigns, He is closed with majesty. The Lord is closed. He has girded himself with strength.

Surely the world is established so that it cannot be moved. And then we have Psalms 9610, the Lord Lord reigns, that was firmly established, so it should not be moved. He shall judge the people righteously. And then in Psalms one, O 4-5, it says you who laid the foundations of the earth so that it shall not be moved forever, right? So we have that. So now what we do see in the Bible sometimes is that you'll see like the earthquakes or the earth shakes or the earth

wobbles. Now these are earthquakes, which can be explainable. Now, you know, so it's not talking about the whole earth shaking. It's talking about, you know, the the earthquakes or something like this, like an earthquake is talking about, right. And what I think is interesting is it it sometimes it's in Joel 210, which is like this is like end times type stuff. That's prophetic. It says that when the earth trembles, the heavens shakes as well.

The heavens tremble as well. Now how why would that even happen? Well, I believe that the earth is connected to the firmament and heaven is connected to the earth, right? But even speaks about that in Amos. But so we, we have that. And another thing I want to go over is Proverbs 827 to 29. Now this one says, when he established the heavens, I wisdom was there when he drew a circle upon the face of the deep, when he made firm the skies above.

We'll stop there real quick. So he made firm the skies above. If you click on firm, it'll be strong or it'll be solid, right? So he made the the skies solid, all right? Not gases, not, you know, not space, not nothing. No, he made the skies solid, right? It says when the fountains of the springs of the deep became fixed and strong, when he's set for the sea, it's boundaries. So the waters cannot be transgressed. The boundaries are set by his command when he marked out the

foundations of the earth. So there's there's boundaries for the waters. So there is a a map that it's called the AE map. Now, is this accurate to the Bible? I have no idea, but it's very interesting that on the outside is Antarctica, right? It's like ice wall and the waters cannot transgress. I could kind of maybe connect that to that. Not saying the AE map is biblical or is truth. I'm not sure, but I can maybe connect that to it.

But the, the very interesting thing is he made the skies firm, which, which, which matches up with the firmament being solid. That's why it's called the firmament and not a softament. You know, it's like, and then also when he when he made the fountains of the springs of the deep became fixed and strong. If they're mentioning that, because those during the flood obviously broke, which I'll go over a little bit later. But like I said, any any questions on any of that stuff?

Yeah, I mean, like highlights for me. I don't know what this does for other people's brains, but when I hear this stuff, I'm thinking what is the faces of the deep, right. Yeah. Like we talked about the firmament. We talked about it being a, a placement. We have plateau or a firm flat space. Luminaries are put into the firmament, right?

And we have at rats, which is the, you know, the, the, the, the basic material, the dirt, the dust, the stone of the materials of the earth, but faces of the deep right where where the Bible talks about the pillars of the earth. Personally, I think torodial is an interesting idea to look at right where it's like we all have a little bit something wrong and we all have a little something right now.

God's word doesn't have nothing wrong with it other than some bad translations and miss misguided people without all the Holy Spirit using the word of God for who knows what reasons. But I'm looking at the faces of the deep and I'm looking at the idea just like the heavens, the shamayim, there's three heavens,

right? It's it's realm almost Because OK, so when we look even at the scientific approach where we have volume and mass and matter and how that's calculated and how quickly it moves and all, you know, whatever me and Enoch, we like to talk about this, you know, not the holographic universe. I'm not insinuating that.

But when I look at the heavenly luminaries, right, The stars, for example, when you really start to do like that, I think the channels called the truth about stars and even with your own eye, you start to think like man, twinkle twinkle little star, how I wonder what you are like. Look at what they're seeding into the minds.

Like they're they're literally putting that in your head as a kid so that you think mystery of it, but not mystery from from the Hebrew mindset, but from the Greek mindset, a concealed thing. It should be an unraveling a learning, right? And it's like, OK, So what is the faces of the deep? So if the heavens do go up, if the devil is is trying to make his ascension with these, I will

these I am statements. If anybody out there actually understands what I'm saying when I say that and he wants to lift up his ideologies into these realms. What about the these pillars? What about the faces of the deep? I think that that's very provocative to kind of slow down for a second and just look at I'm a speculator. I'm a researcher also and I'm a prayer guy. So I'll do all three.

Right now. I'm not prayerfully, but it but I'm I'm being triggered that that this is a continual thing that pops up when I'm hearing these conversations of importance. Does that mean realms with the Lord? Are we talking like dimensional barriers? Very possibly, in my opinion. You know, because we have Tartarus, we have the bosom of Abraham, we have hell, or, you know, it's not actually even hell in the English. We're just getting this holding place. We have the fiery pit.

God has all these different layers of reality to his created state, just like he moves through the elementals in the Bible, Josh, we got angels coming through fire. And like all this, you know, in biblical cosmology, they're coming through. Yeah. Let's see what We could hash this for a minute. Let's see what. The Bible says real quick. So, so the Bible talks about shield being in the earth. Yeah. Like there's three different

layers. So it's I don't think it's like a realm or like a different dimension because there's no there's no word. I'm just saying this is just my personal. This is my personal belief, right. So I do believe, you know, is it another dimension spiritually? Yeah. I mean, yeah, I think there's a good point there. But the Bible talks about in in Philippians 211, it's speaking about every knee will bow. And what does it say?

It says this is 3 tiers. Every knee is going to bow in heaven, every knee is going to bow on earth and every knee is going to bow under the earth. So dude, there's a three tier system that the Bible is always using. I have a show that I do called the location of Shield location of hell. And I believe they always talk about it being down. And then when you're a child, what do you believe? You believe hell is down? And the earth and you believe heaven is up and that's

literally what it is bro. God's throne is above the firmament. That's the 3rd heaven. That's what's. Got this his footstool. So literally where he's his head is at is is up. And up that's it. I'm going to go through all that, bro, it's going to come. It's going to come. But anyways, so we got to understand that. And it's and also it talks about being down in the underworld. You're going to go down to hell. Who's going to be able to open

these seals? Nobody on earth or nobody in heaven, nobody on earth or nobody under the earth. So it's it's covering all bases of All Souls that have ever walked the face of the earth. So we got to understand that. Very interesting. So let me just make one quick clarification because we're we're on the same page. I'm just going to use some hermeneutical hygiene real fast. It's like going through a doorway, a door.

It's a door in English, right? But it takes you into the, the cavity or the realm of another room. So what I'm saying like dimensions or realms, I believe like the with the principalities, powers, rulers and dominions, we have aerial things going on with spiritual legalities and conditions. So I believe that there's pockets, right? Just like the Bible says, blessed is the man of God where his heel touches down, it belongs to the Lord there. And cursed is this because of

the wicked, right? Cursed is the man who trusts in in man and not in God. So there's nations and populations and and positions on this earth that are in the fear of man, but not in the recollection of God. So I believe that the spiritual atmosphere really does is kind of experientially for the believer and non believer create a spiritual warfare environment, right? You're talking earlier about the shield, the size of that shield of faith. What are you able to block out?

Well, I got a big God, so that means I have a big thought process towards all this. And if the enemy's this big God is bigger, God's greater than the weird and deep things of the enemy, we can figure out even the deceptions, God is bigger.

So dimensionality for me when I'm saying that to be a little bit more precise, it's like the spiritual of cause and effect of the battle that we're in. Because one person who's a believer can be in a room and it could be like somebody comes in and it gets tense and you're picking up spiritual warfare. And somebody who's oblivious, who's just living by the standard of the world has no idea that the atmosphere just shift in this place that there's a battle taking place.

So I think that a lot of the times us as deep believers can start to understand realms based on the the principalities, powers and rulers. But then also there's there's an entrance point, like a doorway into another room. Like right here, I have the door into my kitchen and it's like I can't walk through the wall now. Yeshua Ken, he was the first of the risen and through walls he did walk. But right now in our temporary standpoint.

So that's what I mean, Josh, I'm not insanely waiting like the the multiverse where it's like there's possibilities. I don't even take it that way. Biblically, we we can, we can look in the cosmology, in this umbrella of thought and Scripture and say, yeah, there's some pocket realm effects going on here. Yeah, that just interesting to think about. It's interesting because it says that there's spiritual wickedness in high places.

Now, what does that mean? Oh, that means that they're going to be, they're, they're high up in the, whatever the, the, you know, the order of the devil. No, dude. It means that there's spiritual wickedness in high places. What does that mean? That there's spiritual battles happening where the moon, sun and the stars are located. How do I know that? Go to the book of Daniel and there's a fight between heaven and earth. Who's fighting?

Well, there's an Angel coming down that's going to try to answer Daniel's prayer. And what happens? He has to call on Michael the Archangel to come fight the Prince of Persia. And where are they fighting? They're fighting in the air. What is the devil? He's the He's the Prince of the air. So. What are the stars? Well, I'll tell you what bro. In the book of Enoch, if you go extra biblical text, it says that 10,000 of the stars are

judged. It says in the book of Jude that these wandering stars are judged. Why? Why are the wandering stars judged and what are the why are they called wandering stars In the 1st place? Because they're not doing the movement that God originally planned from them to do so. The wandering stars are called Jupiter, they're called Saturn. They're called all these names because that are all those are actually literally Roman gods. So they want you to worship

these things. And so think about it. They're wandering stars. So they're they're going, they're disobeying God's order, right? So yeah. They're not in stars. They are not in orbit. Yeah, that's, that's not in orbiting. Yeah, yeah. No, they're orbiting. No, they're not. They're actually doing. That's the way it's inverted. But think about it. Yes, it's inverted. That was key. That's a cultic. It's inverted. It's the upside down world flip

flop. And there's only like a few, maybe two or three times in the Old Testament that stars are being referenced not in alignment with future generations. Think about that. And the correlation between angels. Angels, well, it's interchangeable at some places. So, okay, Josh, I'm in agreement with you. I don't believe what NASA is saying. I don't believe the prescribed narrative of what the world

pushes. Now, I agree with Flat Earth to the extent of certain things, right, but but the whole entire Flat Earth idea, I have troubles with sections of it. I want to be authentic. I don't just want to nod my head and say yes and Amen to everything I hear. I need to let the process happen. But biblical cosmology I have no issues with. And, and I'd love the points that you're bringing up here because this is what needs to be rattled out into the millennial

generation. We need to start seeding these ideas. So I didn't mean to cut you off there, man, but no worries. Everything you're saying is awesome. I love having a back and forth talk. Sometimes I have to information download for some people that have no clue. At least you're like a bunch of steps ahead bro and you know what's going on so. That's that's how I process information. When people talk, it triggers things that weren't like, I didn't wake up this morning and

got. So these are all the things I'm going to say to Josh. I'm like, you're triggering stuff that has been hidden in there, you know? So all right, so let's look at what the Bible says about the moon and the sun moving, right? I already talked about how the earth is fixed and immovable. Now verses about the sun and the moon moving. Joshua 1012 is one of those

verses. It says then spoke Joshua to the Lord in the day when the Lord delivered up the Amorites before the children of Israel, and he said in the sight of Israel sun stand still upon Gibeon, and thou moon in the valley of Ajean. Now we have the moon and the sun standing still in two geographical locations. And it says and the sun stood still and the moon stayed until the people that events their enemies upon their upon themselves upon their enemies. Is it not written in the book of

Jasher? So it's actually telling you that it's written in the book of Jasher and if you go to the book of Jasher talks about the sun and the moon standing still till Joshua Avengers enemies. So it literally says that. So the sun stood still in the midst of heaven and has not go down about a whole day. Now an interesting thing about go down, if you look up in the Hebrew Ecclesiastes 1/5 when it says arise and it says to go down and means to go away from

and to come forth. Just so you guys know it doesn't mean to go down. But we also have the sun and the moon stopping in two geographic locations until they avenge their enemies. If you understand, if you're reading the Bible and you just read that verse and take it literally for what's happening or your perspective on what Earth would be, what do you see? The sun and the moon moving. The earth is at rest. And still that's what we feel. That's what we see. But they stopped in two

geographical locations. Now, if you're in the heliocentric model, then what would happen is God would have to stop the sun from moving 550,000 miles an hour. He would have to stop the moon from moving 2300 miles an hour and have to stop the Earth from moving 66,000 miles an hour. And scientifically, if you want to be a scientific person, everything on earth would, would fall off the earth. That's what they say. They, they said that the polar shifts would happen and everybody would die.

Now God can do miracles, yes, but why is it that Joshua is doing this prayer saying sun stand still, moon stand still, and that's what God does. It doesn't say anything about the earth standing still because the earth is already at rest and the moon and the sun are what? Moving. And God is the one that controls that, you know. But it also says later on in the verse that God never did that again, never did in the past and never did it again in the future. And he will never do that again.

He'll never stop the moon and the sun from moving. But we have two witnesses on that as well, Habakkuk 311 and also the book of Jasher SO3 witnesses. But in scripture we Habakkuk 311 saying the sun and mood stood still in their habitation, which is like the habitation is like their home. Their home is what inside the firmament at the light of thine arrows they went and they shining of the glittering Spears.

So this is talking about that Joshua event 2 witnesses speaking about the sun and the moon standing still. And I think it's fascinating, right? So we have that. And then another one we have is Isaiah 38, seven through 8. It says, and this is the sign to the Lord that the Lord will do this thing which he has spoken, Behold, I will bring the shadow of the sundial which has gone down with the sun on the sundial of it has 10° backwards. So it's not going down, it's going away from.

So what's happening is he made the sun go 10° backwards is what he said, because the person said, I don't want you to make it go forwards. I want to make it go backwards. It's a better miracle. And God did that. The shadow of the sundial, The sun is a dial, dude. It's like a clock in the sky. And God is able to reverse that no problem, because who controls what the moon, sun and the stars do? Gravity.

No, no, no, no. What controls what the sun and the MO do is God. He could do that, you know, just so you guys know. Yeah, obviously the whole entire thing is to strip the fact that God is holding it by his authority and power, right? They want to attribute anything

but that. And a lot of the times, Josh, in my experience, man, it's it's fancy terminology and it's localized cadence or, or slangs within these institutions and within these higher levels of thought where they try to contain and use language as a weapon against us instead of just, you know, getting. Because the Bible really wants to get to the crux of the issue. And it wants to, you know, let you know all things are put into his position, his power.

They're all created by Him, for Him, and through him, all things on heaven. And all principalities, dominions. Everything right? Dude, it's. And he uses it too. And this is like, mind blown, right? But you know, for the sake of this conversation, the enemy is is inserting the long effort. Enoch has a video called the

fallen long game. I put up on the podcast video audio too, because Enoch does a lot of video stuff strictly, but and it and it's about the enemy isn't always trying to just get like a single generation. He's trying to seed things that can grow for the wicked and perverseness of who he is in the seed that's after him over a very long time to inculcate in such a way where it's just it's it's being infused into our minds like the first thing they teach us when we get to

kindergarten. Is this globe theory? No. OK, listen. I love what Doctor Chuck Missler did. He was like my biggest like person that that. I mean, it was my dream interview also in the heavens. Someday I'll be able to have a conversation with him, but I'll be more interested in talking with the Lord than I will him there. But listen, Josh, he used to present all the different perspectives. You know, he wouldn't leave one out. He'd say, listen, I'm going to lay all this out for you.

This is what I think about it. This is what the word says about it. And this is what I prescribed to, and here's why. But he wouldn't leave anything out. He was getting mad to think, oh, bro, bro, it has literally he probably is one of the guys that most people that have have influenced me and you and others like us have stood on his shoulders at one point in time. And you know, he was well accredited.

Whatever. I'm you know, the show isn't about doctor Chuck Missler, but you got to give honor where honors do. And in this case, he used to lay out all these different positions. So I remember going through and hearing him speak and then parroting that information with like what you're saying, what with Dave says, what Enoch says and other people in these areas, because there's some contention right now.

I get I get caught in the crosshairs all the time, Josh, where it's like I'm collabing with this person and this person and working behind the scenes and doing this and and people hold different views and people want me to make a decision to pick a side and I'm going no, that's not how it works. I know, like my allegiance, my my shouldership is to the Lord. I know, I know exactly it's not to. People will tell me we're gonna say you have that guy on, he's

this or why did you do? And it's like, bro, whatever God led me to do at that moment, he led me to do that. I'm not yes, and about that bro, you know what I mean? So yeah, I I get it, but. You're being genuine if you're laying out these different, you know, ideas and saying, listen, you choose, but the word of God has the ultimate authority, right, 'cause we still need to pray about it. And so that's important to me now.

Fascinating you're bringing up the one time and then and then God showing the greater miracle by like reversing almost, you know, and the shadow being cast back as the the sun is, is a dial of time. It's in orbit, it's in rotation. So that's a fascinating point. Now, Josh, help me remember, I've seen a map somewhere where it has four gates in the east, north-south and West. It's like a Hebrew idea of the

gates. And so when I looked at that word in the Hebrew and the coordinates here like stayed and I was looking at the moon Joshua, where you were, you were talking about it literally means to cease, to abide, to not move through. And it triggered me. I'm like gates, look what? So what map is that? It's like a Hebrew map. It's like a stationary map where there's angels on four corners and yeah, a deep cavern of what, The Earth? The windows of heaven that gets

talked about like they. Took away the waters. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So yeah. Oh yeah. Well. That just triggered. Sorry, I don't know if that fits. OK, it does fit in because I mean, if you get to the windows of heaven or the gates of heaven. So what is those are sluices. So we'll go over the flood real quick before we So I was, I was going to say OK first before I do that. So the moon is a light. There's several verses on that just so everybody knows and we'll kind of move forward.

If you go to Ezekiel 32, seven psalms 1 or 36, or you go through Genesis 1 verses 14 through 19 and it's going to say there's two great lights. So the moon is a light, the sun is a light. Just so people know as far as the the gates, right? Let's talk about the flood real quick. So we have 3 separate events that happened there. OK, First off, what happened was that it says that the the fountains of the great deep are broken. So water came from below.

So let's say you have an arc, water is coming from below, it's going to lift that arc. And then you have a firmament, right? It's like a fishbowl almost. And you have it says that the windows of heaven were open. The windows of heaven, those are called sluices. And those are windows of the firmament were open and water came in and kept lifting up that water up. And then it says that it rained for 40 days and 40 nights. That's three separate events. How do I know that?

Because if you go further down, it says that the fountains of the great deep were closed. It says the windows of heaven were stopped. But if you look at that word in the Hebrew, it means closed. So the sluice of heaven were closed and it said it stopped raining, right? So there's three separate events there. And it's really makes sense that water came from below to lift up the ark to keep the ark safe. And then water came from above to lift the water up. It was 15 cubits above the

highest mountain, right? So all the earth was flooded, okay. Not a portion of the earth like some people claim. It says all the earth all the way up to the 15 cubits above the highest mountain. What does it look like on the flatter? It's like this. It's a glow. I'm sorry. It's a, it's a Dome, right?

And you have water filling up this fishbowl and what happens is it's it's 15 cubits above the highest mountain, whatever the highest elevation is. Now we have Antarctica, which is on the outside on, on a biblical cosmology, I'm sorry, like a Flat Earth model. Let's say the water just has to fill up above that. That's like 14,000 feet elevation. And then whatever the highest mountain is, the water ends up being 15 cubits above the highest mountain. How does that work on a

heliocentric globe model? Bro, that's very difficult to happen. But on this what I'm. Seeing Josh and you're triggering this for for me for the first time, the idea of a plane fishbowl filling up with water. We have heavens, the Prince of the power of the air. It's interesting that he says in Job he's going up and down upon the earth and to and fro upon it, right? Yep. What a pervert. Can you see this? Yes I can. Thank you for sharing.

That no problem. This is actually Doctor Michael Heisner's. Like little thing, but ancient. Of the universe, yes no, I know this is exactly what was in my mind as well. Now think about this. If you looked at that from this side profile looking at the foundations of the heavens right we see the foundations of the earth Sheol in the middle plateau and then arcing convex.

I think it is or is a concave, I forget which one, but and and so you're talking about the water filling up here into the into what? About the highest mountain. That that would be a sphere almost from the Devil's perspective. Wouldn't that be interesting that he loses one of the the Hassitons because there's many of them, loses his ability to go to and fro because in Job he actually comes with the sons of God.

You know what I'm saying? So maybe he gets a divine taxi, as Mike Kaiser says, and catches a ride, right? But but here's the interesting thing. Maybe the Devil's using that perversion because of his desire for his abilities, the hospitons abilities, to go from those heavenly realms to kind of mock and even betray the minds of man in such a deep seated multilayer deception as to a globe model versus what's actual biblical cosmology.

That just triggered for me, dude, I did not know you're saying it. And I'm I'm, I'm just in my imagination. I'm, I always invite the Ruach, the Holy Spirit. I say come and minister to me. Show me you speak through vision and dream show if you want me to show me. It's not all the time. It's actually not very often. I'm not normally in a position to be worthy of that. But today you have triggered this for me, my friend, And and it it made sense to me. I'm hoping the audience catches this.

It's important. So let's. Let's deceive her. Oh, Deceiver for sure. So let's check out what we'll talk. We talked about the, you know, the the sun and moon moving. We talked about the earth being stationary. Now we'll talk about the firmament, right. So I kind of went over for a firmament means it's rakia, it's solid. Even when you go to the Greek Septuagint in Greek, it's stereoma, which also means

solid. So even when that was, you know, when I was taking over, now what's happening is like you were talking about translations of the Bible. They're moving from firmament to, from solid to expand so that it's easier for people to compromise for science and say, well, it's an expanse. It's, it's the universe. It's where the sun and the moon and the stars are. So they're trying to move that into space now.

And that's what happens as you go through time, you see that they try to convert to, you know, they, they compromise for science to try to match up what science says. And that's just not the case here. You know, when you go back, when you have a telephone game, you want to find out what the person said in the beginning. You want to find out what they were saying, not what we say.

You know, 6600 years later, the truth is going to be from the prophets and from God, not from these people 6600 years later. So we need to understand that there is a theory that people come up with. It was Ken Hoeven's theory that there was a ice canopy around the globe. And, and that when the flood happened, it broke and shattered and melted. And that's what caused the, the that's what was causing people to live longer. They said that they're blocking the sun rays.

And now we got to understand, though, in the Bible, it says, it says that God put the moon, sun, and the stars in the firmament. So that ice canopy would have to be outside of all the galaxies. So that would not work. You would have to have two firmaments. But in the Bible it says that God created the firmament. The firmament, not firmaments. So now you are doing what, going back to Proverbs, you're adding to the word of God to compromise

for what? For what you learned in science class from a bunch of atheists that I want naturalistic worldview without God, absent from God. You know what I mean? So just want to tell people that and then on Wernher von Braun's tombstone, this is the guy that was a he's a Nazi rocket scientist that came over from

operation paper clip. He was like the director of NASA back in the days when they when they first started wanting to do the moon landing, sending out Saturn 5 satellites, Saturn's of God off of his well, but on this gentleman's tombstone, we have Psalms 19 one. It says the heavens declare the glory of God and the firmament showeth his handiwork. OK, that's a very interesting verse for him to put.

Now I believe this is like a breadcrumb because what what you do, you don't just go to Psalms 19 one and stop there. You want to continue reading. And what happens if you continue reading? It's going to show you that that the sun is actually, you know, moving over the earth, you know, so I think it's interesting. So Psalms 19, one says the heavens declare the glory of God and the firmament show with this

handiwork. If you click on that word handiwork, it actually you could, it will say work God's deeds or God's achievement. So I want to stop there. What is the devil doing? He's taking away God's handiwork because he's taking away that firmament and only just making it the heavens. And he's saying that the there's three heavens. They're saying that the blue sky is a heaven where the moon center, the stars are located as heaven, and then God's heaven is trillions upon trillions of

miles away. So that's very interesting that it happens. And as I continue reading the verse, it says day unto day utter his speech and the night under knoweth knowledge. There is no speech nor language which their voice is not heard. Their line is gone out through all the earth and their words to the end of the world. And then he has set a Tabernacle for the sun. What is a Tabernacle? If you click on Tabernacle, that actually means the sacred tent of Jehovah.

So we have a tent for the sun, right? And what is that? Well, I believe that he's talking about the firmament here, the firmament for the sun, it says. And, and also if you look up Andrew Hoy, he's actually a, he's an engineer and he took every single thing from the Torah and built the Tabernacle. And it is not shaped like a normal tent.

When you build a normal tent you have to take minus stuff out, but God said to use every single thing that got to build the Tabernacle and it actually it would be more of a Dome shape. Okay look up Andrew Hoy, you guys could see exactly what I'm talking about on that. So hold on, let me click this out. Sorry I'm getting messages while I'm talking. It says what?

Now let me continue reading. It says a Tabernacle for the sun, which is as a bridegroom coming out of his chamber and rejoices as a strong man to run a race. His going forth is from the end of heaven and his circuit which is a circle unto the ends of it, and there is nothing hid from the heat thereof, so it's going to the ends of heaven. Now there's three heavens. One heaven is where the moon, sun and the stars are located. 2nd heaven is that firmament.

3rd Heaven is where God's throne is located. So the sun is doing a circuit in the heaven to the ends of heaven, and nothing is hid from the heat thereof. What does that mean? That nothing is hid from the heat thereof? No galaxies, no other Andromedas, no other things are hid from the heat of the sun. What do you think bro? Yeah. Man, I love the word of God. That's what I think I like, you

know, I'm thankful for you. I know it was like, what, 5:00 AM on your side when we started this thing, man, We just came in here swinging, giving God some glory. I, I love everything that you're laying out. I think that this should ripple out into people's minds. You know, no emails from people angry about designating an episode towards biblical cosmology. If you guys have issues with that, it's going to be you have issues with what the word is saying.

So I just want to reiterate that the Bible has the final authority. And Josh, your heart posture to just get this stuff out there is very honorable, OK? Because the enemy is screaming from the top of his lungs. He's got all the best producers. He's got all the best news

stations, right? He's got this the the powers of the world echoing his lie chamber and here we are as sons of God. We got to know that we're sons of God. We got to know who we are and then we start to bring his word out and it never returns void. So I think, Josh, that this is a really excellent conversation. It's, it's, it's a great way to seed ideas of the scriptures out there to get to challenge the narrative that is that's. My yes, yeah. And OK, so yes, let's continue

challenging the narrative. I think that's good. And, and also like, like you were talking about he is the the Prince of the air and and you're talking about the news stations. The you know that's exactly what he's using the enemies using at all times just to brainwash and and and continue these agendas. But let's continue with the firmament.

So we have Job 3718 has that with him spread out the sky, which is strong as a molten looking glass so strong if you click on that word, it means solid. So Job is saying here that the sky is solid and for those that try to come and challenge me and try to tell me that the cosmology is not important to God.

If you go to Job 38 for and, and when he's trying to put Job in line, he, he immediately goes back to his cosmology and says that where were you when I laid the foundations of the earth? Where were you when I bind pallades? Where were you when I did he? He goes to cosmology immediately. Oh, cosmology is not important. Flat versus globe is not important. But well, God opens up the Bible with cosmology before he even talks about Jesus right in Genesis 317.

So I'm just telling you something that God, what we need to do is the heavens declare the glory of God. We need to look up to the heavens and say, thank you, Lord, this is amazing. And the firmament show with this handiwork. We need to understand that that's God's handiwork. It took him a whole day to create this firmament, right? So understand that.

One more thing I like to talk about, well, a few different things I like to talk about about the firmament is that the reason why you turn into well, not the reason why, OK, we are spirit, right? We're able to go into the earth, you know, when we die because we're spirit, like you talked about Jesus walking through the walls, our heavenly body, and we're able to go up through the firmament into the 3rd heaven. But physically you will not be able to get into heaven.

OK. They try to do it with the Tower of Babel. They try to do it with something called Operation Fishbowl, and I'll tell you about that. What they did is they tried to is 1962, they shot nuclear missiles, Thor missiles up and it exploded in the sky and you could see it from atmosphere to atmosphere, right? So if you look at this, this is in 1962.

Back then in 1958, we had Operation Deep Freeze where Admiral Byrd went out to Antarctica and it's called Operation High Jump. That's another name for this Operation High Jump where they went to Antarctica and they were basically just checking everything out. I think they were, I believe they were looking for Nazi, you

know, stuff out there. But anyways, so that happened in 1958. So then, then after 1958, they made the Antarctic Treaty. So they made it so that what I believe is they found, I believe they found the firmament, dude, that's what I believe. And they're, they're trying to hide that information. Now you go from 1958 to 1962, they do Operation Dominique where they're shooting missiles up in the air and it's exploding. I believe they're trying to find out how how high the firmament is. Why?

Well, because if you want to shoot a nuke, if you believe in those, some people don't. If you want to shoot a nuke or a rocket from America to Russia, you need to see how high the firmament is. Because if you shoot it straight up in the air, it's going to explode and you're going to waste the rocket. So you need to know from a military perspective from America over to Russia, you need to see how you need to arc that missile.

So you need to know, right, also when you're NASA and you want to try to fake out these rockets that they're sending into space, supposedly you need to have these things arc as well. You never see these things go straight up. When you do see them go straight up, what happens? They explode. SpaceX, it happened there. But they end up arcing these things.

So they want to find out how high the firmament is so that they can, you know, keep doing what they're doing, you know, and also, you know, so from a military perspective, they wanted to know how high it was. So they when they do send rockets, they don't just waste money, you know? Thoughts on that? Operation Fishbowl? Oh, before you talk, fishbowl is what I talked about fishbowl, right? It's Operation Dominique is the bigger mission. It's Dominique Chama.

And if you look at that in the Latin, Dominique means belonging to the Lord and Chama means it means shell. So you have a fixed shell belonging to the Lord or a fishbowl, a fishbowl, you have glass with a hole in the top, right? So they're taking Thor missiles and trying to explode the fixed shell that's belonging belonging to the Lord. This can't get any. Can't get any clearer than that bro. Yeah, Yeah. That's really well laid out, man. That's interesting to think

about. Yep. No, carry on. This is good. Yeah. I'll keep going. We're keep going. He talked, you talked about Isaiah, the five I wills, right? So Isaiah 1413 through 15. This is telling you where God is located, where his throne is, and I'm going to continue going with that. What is God's location? We need to know that in the heliocentric model, God's location would be trillions upon trillions of miles away, and he'd also be ever expanding, right? So it's a 1.3 million miles an

hour. So God, he put the moon, sun, and the stars in the firmament. I'm going to go through verses that prove to you that God's thrown as above the firmament. So if the firmament is outside all the galaxies and it's ever expanding, what science is doing is bringing you further and further and further away from the Lord.

What's they're literally doing? But when it comes to the Bible, God's throat is above the firmament and he's looking down on us like grasshoppers, which I'm going to show you guys. But in this verse, Isaiah 1413 through 15, it tells you where God's throne is located. It says I will ascend into heaven. It says, for you have said in your heart, I will ascend into heaven. I will exalt my throne above the stars of God. I will also sit on the mount of Congregation on the farthest

sides of the north. I will ascend above the heights of the clouds. I will be like the Most High, yet you shall be brought down to shield to the lowest depths of the pit. Now we have that three tiered system again. Now what does he say? I will exalt my throne above the stars of God. So God's throne is above the stars, right?

It's above the firmament. And it says that I will sit on the farthest sides of the north if you have a firmament and the north, the North Pole is where the the farthest size of the north would be. God's throne, I think is above that, right? And I think it's obviously a lot larger than we probably think, but that's where God will be located, right? So we have that. And then Amos 96, it says this is the NASB version.

It says the one who builds his upper chambers in the heavens has founded his vaulted Dome over the earth. He who calls for the waters of the sea and pours them out of the face of the earth, the Lord is his name. That word upper chambers, it actually means layers in the Hebrew. So there's layers like we talked about 3 heavens. God built his upper chambers in the heavens and in the NASB it says he founded his vaulted Dome

over the earth. Now if you go to the King James, it says troops, he found his vaulted troops. What that word means it means binding and it means binding heaven to the earth. So the vaulted Dome is binding heaven, the 3rd heaven to the earth. OK, so we got to understand that that word is very interesting. When you start going into the he or to the to the Hebrew text, you know it's binding heaven to the earth.

So literally this verse could say the vaulted Dome that's binding to the earth, the firmament binding to the earth, right? And then God has his upper chambers or layers in the heavens that he builds. All right, so we have that. And then another thing I think is very interesting is going to be Isaiah 4022. Now this is a verse that everybody tries to come at people like me and say, look, it's talking about a sphere right here. But let's break this verse down.

Let me get back to it before I keep keep going. I always like to ask, do you have any questions on what I went over so far? No, pretty solid man. I'm, I'm, like I said, I'm following along and just looking at the layout and the rhythm of things is. Just trying to build the case here for for people to understand that. My friend, Yes, you you are building a case. I don't want to jump in. My connections are good. And for a latter date, because

I'll take us down rabbit trails. We'll we'll be here all morning. Yeah, it'll be good. People want that. But Lord, for the sake of our days, I mean, you don't want me talking too much. All right, all right, so let's go to this. This is Isaiah 4021 through 22. This is what it says. It says. Have you not known? Have you not heard? Has it not been told to you from the beginning? Have you not understood? From the foundations of the

earth. It is He who sits above the circle of the earth, and it's inhabitants are like grasshoppers who stresses out the heavens like a curtain and spreads them out like a tent to dwell in, or like a Tabernacle to dwell in that tent. Word is there again. But what do we have? We have God, the Most High. He's called the Most High for a reason, because he's at the highest point of creation. He sits above the circle of the

earth. It doesn't say that God sits above the circle of the galaxies or the atmospheres or the cosmos. He sits above the circle of the earth is what that verse is saying. And circle, I mean that word is, it means circle. Even if you go to the Greek Septuagint, they use the word circle in in Greek instead of using sphero, which they could have used sphere. So it's not talking about God standing on the on the the sphere. He's talking about him standing above the circle of the earth,

all right. So I think that's very important. And he's standing above the firmament, right? That's where his throne is located. And he stretches out the heaven like a curtain, the heaven like a curtain and spreads them out like a tent to dwell in. Now there's more of that tent talk. And he's also looking down on us like grasshoppers, right through the firmament and seen as like grasshoppers. So I think that's very

important. And just like you said earlier, Isaiah 66, one also says heaven is my throne and earth is my footstool. How is that happening? Well, if you have a firmament, right, a firmament like this water above the firmament and God's thrown above that, which if you look in Revelations 4/6, it says that there's a crystalline glass below that is water than this firmament. God is actually literally standing above the circle of the earth. That's why it says that

heaven's. Firmament is his belt of truth, if you want to kind of look at it that way. Yeah, it's like. Like a belt almost, you know? It says where he builds his house that he will build me where he placed my place of rest. His place of rest is above the firmament, bro.

And it's very interesting and and there's a lot of that talk throughout the Bible. Now, if you want to try to tell me that that that word circle means a sphere, all you got to do is go to the same author, Isaiah 2218, and he says the word ball. He says he will surely violently turn and toss the like a ball. That word ball could be used for sphere. But you know, he doesn't use that. He chooses to use the word circle for a reason because he's looking over the circle of the

earth. He's looking down, he sees a circle, right? That's what he's seeing there. So I think that's very interesting. And then God's throne being above the firmament is spoke about in Ezekiel 10/1 and Ezekiel 126 it says then I looked and behold, and the firmament was above the head of the cheruboons. There appeared over them as were a sapphire stone, as the appearance and the likeness of a throne. This is talking about Ezekiel looking through the firmament and seeing the likeness of a

throne. And in Ezekiel 126, it says the likeness of a throne and a man, the likeness of a man upon it, right? So it's very interesting. We got to understand this is Ezekiel 126. Now who is giving Ezekiel and Isaiah and these and Job and all these people, this information. This information is coming from God. And this vision about Ezekiel is coming from God and he's showing Ezekiel where his throne is

located. In Ezekiel 126 it says that above the firmament that was over their heads was the likeness of a throne as the appearance of a sapphire stone, and upon the likeness of a throne was the likeness and the appearance of a man above upon it. What's your thoughts on that brother? I think it's exactly as he says, man, that, you know, the prophecy is a repetition of things.

And when we're looking through the word and we're looking at all these different prophets, what they're saying, God speaks through the prophets. He's reaffirming exactly that which it is even sometimes from different angles, so that we get a deeper understanding of what's going on. You know, I think God makes it very clear.

And I think your case in this matter, what you're bringing forward from the word is painting that depiction time and time again literal, but then also at times where, where it it can, it can be prophetic, which means, you know, because prophecy and poetry in Hebrew are one in the same. It means it's circumvented. It's it's a repetition of things different name, different faces sometimes, but the same outcome.

You know, God is is is stirring the information to go travel abroad through another generation is being reaffirmed by another prophet. The Bible, right. All this word that's inspired by the living God 4 continents. How many different authors over how long a time? And it is the only book that is super lative and it's complete transparency of, of, of the truth, man.

So I'm rocking with you. I, I like what you're bringing up. And I think another time we'll do more speculation on some of these things and have a conversation that way and and get into some some rabbit trails. For sure. So we already talked about Operation Dominique. Let's let's check out. So how do we know that there's three heavens? We go to 2nd Corinthians 12 verses 2 through 4. I knew a man in Christ above 14 years. Whether in the body I cannot

tell. Whether out of the body I cannot tell. God knoweth. Such one caught up to the 3rd heaven and I knew such a man, whether in the body or out of the body, I cannot tell. God knoweth how that he was caught up into paradise and heard unspeakable words, which was unlawful for a man to utter. So let me just put it this way. So he was caught up right. So on a biblical cosmology, you have a Flat Earth with the firmament. You up is up and down is down.

When Jesus passed, you know when he, when he died, he, it says that he went into the earth, right? He descended into the earth and then he ascended to heaven. So he went up. It talks about Paul getting caught up to the 3rd heaven. Now what I don't see here, I don't see Paul saying that I got caught up to the 3rd heaven, which is where God's thorn is located and I went through galaxies and I had to go through this.

I went through all this stuff. He's saying he doesn't even know whether he's in the body or at the body. He cannot tell because all they did is go up through the firmament to the 3rd heaven. He didn't go up to. You know, this Galaxy, Andromeda and all this different stuff. He would probably write a whole entire book on that experience if he was really going through all that. Instead, Paul just says I heard unspeakable words, which is not

lawful for a man to utter. He's not talking about all the other stars and everything orbiting and all the stuff that he saw. No, he said he went up to the 3rd heaven and that's where it is located. It's located up and Shield is located down, right? So we have that. And then Revelation 17 is interesting because it talks about every eye shall see.

This is Revelation 17. Behold, He cometh with clouds, and every eye shall see Him, and they also which pierced Him, and all kinders in the earth shall be so well because of Him. He is the alpha, Omega, the beginning and the end. So we have every eye will see Him. Now if you have a Flat Earth with a firmament, and then the firmament is rolled like a scroll, open like a scroll like the Bible says, and Jesus comes in on a cloud and every eye will see him, there's no problem with that.

Every eye will literally see Him. But if you have a globe and Jesus is coming in trying to catch that 66,000 mile an hour earth and he's on a cloud flying through space and he ends up trying to catch, he ends up on the earth, only a fourth of the people would see him. But when it comes to biblical cosmology, it's very easy. The the firmament opens like a scroll and Jesus comes in on the cloud and everyone will be able to see him. Every eye we'll see makes total sense.

Revelation 613 it says. And the stars of heaven fell onto the earth as a fig tree casts her untimely figs, and she is shaken of a mighty wind. And the heaven which is talking about the firmament, because God called the firmament heaven, Genesis 18 the heaven departed as a scroll when it is rolled together, and every mountain and island were moved out of its place. So this is talking about the stars of heaven shall fall to the earth. All the stars of heaven will fall to the earth.

And Isaiah Mark, Jesus on the earth says that all the stars are the stars are going to fall from heaven. It says in Revelation, the stars are going to fall from heaven onto the earth. What is he talking about here? If, if, if this was the every star was bigger than our sun and all the stars fell to the earth. Does that make any sense at all?

No, but on a, on a biblical cosmology Flat Earth with all the moons and the stars in the firmament, with the firmament connecting to the earth, like Amos 96 says, now we have all the stars falling to the earth. No problem with it whatsoever. But in the in the heliocentric model, big problems, you know, So we have that. Yeah, I could go a little further right. We already talked about the flood. So let's let's talk just for a second. I got a thought I want to share

about what you're saying. All the stars falling to the earth now prophetically in my mind from what the Spirit just just quickened me. And this makes complete sense because every tribe, language, nation and tongue, he's going to draw unto himself, right? And the the prophecy that was given to Abraham, as numerous as the stars are, will your generations be right that he brings fulfillment in the people

that belong to him. And I'm not insinuating that the physical stars that are going to fall to the earth are now, you know, some extra, you know, special light force that's going to I'm just saying prophetically, the idea that God is using because the enemy perverts it, he he does inversions. God is doing multi layered.

Everything is multi layered. You can't get away from it, you know, So he's even I'm seeing a prophetic thread here where it's like, listen, at the end of the age, all of these start because it does say in Revelation that a percentage of stars fall at the

tail of the dragon. But the verse you're referring Revelation 19. But when all of this stuff, because it even says, as you mentioned just a little bit ago, Josh, that he will roll the heaven like a all, you know, all things new, all things new in his perfect timing in his completion. And so it's interesting that there's like a prophetic concealment in there. All of these stars are going to come down and fall. Everything is going to come to its completed final order.

And then it's it's made new why of course, that would be in there prophetically. And like you just said, how could we have Alpha Centauri, the closest star other than our sun, quote UN quote, according to the powers that be that these principalities, powers of rulers and dominions have physical bodies that some of them walk right in dude, that there's physical human Nephesh Okarion vessels, bodies that these entities are in in cahoots with man, they're working directly in

tandem. We have world powers on this at Rats This Earth listeners that are in direct agreement and operation with kingdoms of darkness. So so yeah, we wrestled out against flesh and blood. Oh, but but, but hold on a second. Everything's multi layered just like the star idea. When we start to look through the thread of what the Bible is showing us, God is going to bring all that stuff to completion. I have no issues with what

you're saying. I'm hoping, you know, for the sake of the audience, we'll get questions sent in. Maybe we can brush up on if people feel like there's loose ends in the future, right? Or not loose ends, but like, hey, let's elaborate on this a little bit more. I want to see where this fits in. But Josh, what you're saying for me fits in my framework. I'm just like, yeah, that's super dope. And like I said, rabbit trails off the charts off the.

Charts Yeah yeah so if you guys have any questions if you want to DM me on on Instagram at Josh Monday under score podcast. I have no problem answering questions or prayer requests or anything. So, so we're kind of at the end. What I'm going to do is I'm going to go over all the sixes involved in the heliocentric model. I'll go over probably just about two more verses and we'll end because we're about an hour and a half here. So, so we have every one mile is 8 inches squared of curvature,

right? So we have, if you take 8 / 12, it's .66 of a foot. The curvature calculator, if you look at what that is curvature, right? So we need to have some curvature to it. That's what it is. So if you go 10 miles, it's 66.6 of a foot, 100 miles, it's 6666 feet. We also have 66,600 miles an hour orbiting the sun or actually it's this way. So we got 666 there. The Earth's circumference is 600 * 6 * 6 nautical miles 90°. If you subtract that from 23.4, which is our supposed access, it

is 66.6°. Isaac Newton started first writing the theory of gravity in 1666. The force of gravity on earth is 666 Newtons. Speed of sound is 666 knots. The diameter of the moon is 6 * 6 * 60. The distance to the moon is 6 * 60 * 666 miles. The Arctic and Antarctic celestial fear is 66.6° N latitude and 66.6° S latitude, and then the surface temperature on Uranus is -6 * 6 * 6°. So there's even more or two if you look into it.

But yeah, this is all not my own research is Rob Skiba and a couple other people that kind of put this whole list together. Understand that if you're testing the globe, you're going to find 6 * 6 and six and six everywhere, which we know that number already. I don't even need to go over that. Understand it. So it's really interesting. And so the devil's footprint is

all over the heliocentric model. One thing I like to go over, you kind of went over First Corinthians one, I'm sorry, Corinthians 1, Colossians 115, sorry. All right, so Colossians 1:15 we're going to go over that real quick. He is the image of the invisible God for the first born over all creation. For by Him all things were created that are in heaven, that are on earth, visible, invisible, with the Thrones,

principles, dominions or powers. All things were created through Him and for him, and He is before all things in Him all things consist. He is the head of the body of the church, who is the beginning. So Jesus is the image of the invisible God. So we're actually made in the image of Jesus, right? For by him all things were created that are in heaven, that are on earth. So how was that? Because God spoke them into existence. He used the word, which is Jesus to create, right?

So I think it's really interesting whether they're Thrones, dominions, principalities, the powers, all things were created by him are through him and for him, through him, because he is the word very interesting and for him and he is before all things in him all things consist. So if you look at Corinthians, it talks about everything is held together by Jesus, like literally. So we got to understand that do not worship the created, but

worship the creator. What happens with the Flat Earth community is a lot of them, they concentrate on Flat Earth so much that they just, they just start worshiping the Flat Earth and the creation. We need to worship the Creator. We need to lead people to the creator and worship the Creator. And this is all like the heavens declare the glory of God, the firmament show this anyway. Yeah, this glory in this, But we need to give credit to God, right?

And before we end, I like to go over this and this is going to tell you this is going to kind of, you know, button it up. Genesis one or Genesis 2 one through 4. Thus the heavens and the earth and all the hosts of them were finished. And on the 7th day God ended his work which he had done. And he rested on the 7th day from his work which he had done. Then God blessed the 7th day and sanctified it because in in it, he rested on all his work which

God had created and made. He says that this is the history of the heavens and the earth when they were created and the day that the Lord God made the earth and the heavens. So that's the whole entire Genesis narrative is the history of when the day that they were created and the history of when the heavens and the earth were created.

So God is letting you know that day one, day 2, day three, day four, day five, day six, day 7. This is how I created it, when I created it, how I created it, and why I created it's, it's all there in the book of Genesis. And as you go through the Bible, it's all going to be verse by verse study like I did and understand. So that is the whole entire sermon wrapped up into a bow. Bro, the Lord is king. He has robed in majesty. Indeed, the Lord is robed in

majesty and armed with strength. The world stands firm and cannot be shaken. Your throne, O Lord, has stood from times immemorial. You yourself are from everlasting past. The floods have risen up, O Lord. The floods have roared like Thunder. The floods have lifted their pounding waves. But mightier than the violent raging of the Seas, mightier than the Breakers on the shore. The Lord above is mightier than these. Your royal laws cannot be changed.

Your reign. O Lord is holy and forever and ever. Psalms 93 Josh, I just want to honor you and thank you. Man for joining me. You know what you laid out here is what what needs to be echoed and people need to hear this and and I just challenge the listeners to go through to study to pray. You got a study to show yourself well approved.

That's an individual invitation. God is saying I am calling each one of us in the ekklesi of the body of Christ to be studied and ready to give answer in season and out of season and Josh plug in real quick one more time where you can be found for people that would like to check you out. Yeah, so I have a my first show, Josh Monday Christian. And conspiracy podcast that's on the audio platforms. My my YouTube is Josh Monday music and podcast.

And then if you go to cultic conspiracy podcast, they actually have me on doing a show called Sunday service. It's released every Sunday on their show. Now Christians be warned that, you know, some of their stuff that they have on their actual show, there might be cuss words. There might be, you know, stuff that they're talking about that might be more, you know, in line with maybe new age stuff like

that. But what I want to tell you is they have me on their show doing Sunday service and I do it every Sunday and I literally am going through the Bible I'm at right now. I'm on Genesis 19. I went from Genesis 1 all the way to 19. I got five shows out now. Now this can be my 6th show if you guys want to check that out. Just go to Colton Conspiracy and

look up Sunday service. You're going to see every Sunday there's an episode release and it's just me or it's me with the guest and we're just doing a Bible study and going through the Bible. Now, am I going to be able to make it through the whole entire Bible? Hey, God willing, I will. I'm going to do my very best. But what I do is I just do a lot of research like I do with the biblical cosmology, and I try to put it into each show. And it's something that I think is vastly important.

As Rod knows, there's so many people out there that are into conspiracies, that are digging into conspiracies and that they just don't have the answers. They end up in lost because they have the conspiracies and they see that the devil is real, but they don't find out that God is real.

That's what we got to do. We got to lead these people, the lost to God. And that's my whole point of why I'm doing these shows is I'm trying to lead the conspiracy theorist and the regular people, the normies or anybody to God. That's what I'm really trying to do. I'm trying to bring the Bible alive and show them that the Bible is alive and well and God doesn't need me to do that

because his word is amazing. But that's just what my my whole point doing the show is. And I'm trying to lead people that are new age, that are lost, that are maybe devil or whatever they are, I would like to lead them to God. And the only way to do that is to be in the pits with, you know, with, you know, den of atheists or den of whatever and trying to make sure I'm spreading the word of God. So anyways, that's it, man. Well, that's it. That's the show. You guys.

I'm going to ask that you would share this with a friend. Family member, Co worker, share it with your pastor coming to you from Southeastern Pennsylvania. God bless and goodbye, all right. Man, wealth of information you. Got you. Got quite a layout. You've went through this a couple times, right? Oh yeah, I've done this a lot of times bro. And like I said, I do. Debates. I do everything I can to just show people what the word says, man.

And I just I read it word for word and so people are just still can't accept it. So it's all good, Yeah. Plant seeds and water seeds, right? Yes, that's what your whole your whole show. Is right there millennials mustard seed? There you go. You got it right at the end. Yes, yes. Put that part there. No, I'm just kidding. Hey, well, thank you, bro. Thank you, man. I appreciate you, man. Yeah, yeah. Let's let's get connected when

the time's right again. And, and yeah, I appreciate your time, Josh. No problem. Thank you, bro. God bless you, bro. God bless.