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S4 50. S. Conroy – Transformation Overcoming Devastation

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I'm joined by pastor Shawn Conroy from the Prodigal Sons Radio for a heartfelt testimony of overcoming all the odds. Shawn lost his mother to cancer at 16 years old and spent the next 20 years running from the pain and God. One night while at his lowest everything changed... this is a heartfelt story of how God chases down our hearts threw life's toughest times. A powerful true story ready to Edify and encourage, you are never Alone. if God be for you who could be against you? Give it a spin and please share this! I need your help! Let’s Go! YouTube channel - Millennial Mustard Seed Podcast Instragram page under - Millennial Mustard Seed Facebook page under - Millennial Mustard Seed Podcast Please leave me a 5-star review on your favorite podcast app/catcher, whichever Youse listen on. If you would like to support this show in another way then what is listed below, please email with support the Mill as subject!! rjajsmith77@icloud.com Venmo - @Rodney-Smith-368 Cash app- $Rodsworth77 Support the show Using the Anchor homepage to join by monthly donations!

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Hello folks, this is Princess you are listening to the millennial Mustard Seed, pod casts. Thanks for listening. Don't forget to share with your friends. I stopped wearing a very tough spot. I think that what we're doing right now is a great benefit and virtue because it's an end-around between this whole corrupt informational system

media system. We claim to believe in a God who spoke the universe into existence and literally raised himself from the dead and yet, we're not going to believe that anything else exists in the spirit realm, even though his word tells us that they do, their bodies weren't permitted to go to sleep, like humans, do and there were permitted to go to heaven. So they wander the Earth, you know, I've seen the eyes turned black to unknown tongues being spoken. These Giants will love way up in

the home. We out Graves. The young man was hiding in the trees and wait for one of these 12 Footers to come walking down the path and they would kill him, Dragon back. Then people start to get weapons, I start to get armor, they start to build cities. They saw the fortify their cities now, God looks down, and there's violence everywhere. The battle this war that we are at, is not against each other. It's against these principalities in these rulers in, these are cons in high

places. It's really worthwhile to read the Bible years, fear is one of the primary drivers of mind control because we have to take every thought captive and resist. Fear. You're going to have a testimony that is a Justice case against the kingdom of darkness. Welcome back to the millennial Mustard Seed pod cast, I have an excellent episode in store for you guys. Pastor, Sean Conroy is here he is. A part of the prodigal sons podcast, these guys are local to me and they have an amazing

show. Is story is a heartfelt one. I know that this is going to touch somebody out there. I really enjoyed this conversation and I know you guys will as well. Don't forget to check the show notes on each episode. You guys, the description, you can find the email to contact me and I want to thank you for the people who have been emailing and encouraging and Asking questions and commenting and sharing their stories with me

via email. And if I missed you guys, I'm sorry, please read the email me again, but it's definitely encouraging and I love getting feedback from the listeners. We all have a story and a testimony to share and it's an honor to have shared the stories I've already shared and there's plenty more to come. You guys leave me that five star rating review, that helps the show grow, it helps. Us get connected with more people like us and I'm ready for this episode. I'm not going to waste any more

time. Are you guys ready? Let's go. Hey, how are you to Sean O'Connell from the follicle cells podcast and I'm here on millennial Mustard Seed. He's a verification. That's a good old intro, Sean. It's good to have you here with me, man. Thank It's good to be here. I'll tell you what, man? Wife has been crazy. So, trying to get the word out and be with the another brother in Christ, man, this just makes that makes my day.

There's something about when we dwell together in unity and other people being aware of who's who, where we're at. And what's going on? I think is so important. Just kind of walk us into your upbringing what brought you to Christ and to everything that you're doing today. Sure. So I was born and raised. Boston, Massachusetts, born and raised Roman Catholic, which we could talk about for a whole episode by itself, but nothing

against them. It's just, I don't, you know, we're gonna have disagreements across the board as correct as Christians but some mom. So that was my early life, my grandmother was always a huge spiritual part of my life as a kid. She's the one that took me to church. She's the one that taught me about Christ. She's the one talking about the Lord and so I did that for years. Ears. And then when I was 16, my

mother got sick. She got cancer, and she passed away, and when you believe and there's nobody here on Earth to get mad at, who you get mad at. And for me, I took that out on God and I spent 20 years on my own, trying to figure it out, trying to find a better way, trying to flick. Why would God do this to me? So I just spent years being angry with the Lord. And man that's tough. I'll tell you what. Like that is no way to live,

but, you know, God is good. And by his grace we are, we he never gives up on us. He never leaves us like when I look back, now I can see a thousand times that God stepped in on my wife and was like, nope, even though I was mad at him, wasn't talking to him, he still didn't let me get in the trouble, I deserved, but back in 2013, me and the mother of my kids had broken up. We went our separate ways after 15 years and I literally went to a six-month drunken coma.

I guess is the best way I can put it. I would wake up and drink. I would drink all day at work. I would drink all night. Till I fell asleep and I just, I shut down from the world and I didn't know what to do with myself. And I went out for my birthday into April 2014 and it was my actual birthday and my rebirthday. So in kind of they coincide but I was I was so messed up, I couldn't spell the word car went. Alone drive one and I'm flying down for 20 to do like 120 miles an hour.

Steering with my knee. I like a cigarette in my cell. Phone on one hand, i'm talking I had a beer can in the console. I had a bottle of whiskey in my other hand you know just out of control. And when I got down past Oaks on the 422, I was heading east the westbound way like I know like those a spends just passed Ford Just past the Oaks exit.

I looked into the left foot in the left lane and which I'm sure none of that is going to make any sense to some of your wisdom, as they have no idea what I'm talking about. Anyway, it's a high area for police. Usually, they're, so it's by the grace of God. I even made it that far as intoxicated as I was. And, but I look over in the westbound Lane heading back towards where I lived, and there's two cars, it's like 2:30

in the morning. I was trying to go to the casino because I know the casino serve drinks. True. They start till like 5:00 in the morning. Now that I need another drink but that's what I wanted. And so these two cars were pulled over hazard lights on. I could see the front car their bottom, but they're back bumper was down and the front, the back car, their front bumper was down, I can see there were kids in the car and I could see moms of people upset.

So it was April is around like spring break, time for school and I'm thinking two families. I went to Disneyland had a great week, came home a little, jet-lagged had a little fender bender or 2:30 in the morning. Coming home from the airport either I can't verify that. That's my gas as For what had happened. But for me, I'm a numbers guy. Like I crunch numbers and, you know, when a plane leaves Boston at 9 a.m. and the train we've Chicago at 10, a.m. where do

they meet a? My thinking was, if I had been coming the other way, doing the same thing at the same time when they had, their little fender bender Ida come through when I to hit them all which was a very eye-opening experience in the moment, you know, because I'm immediately thinking, man, I could have killed all. These people. And so I pulled over just before the Audobon exit about half a

mile up the road. And I threw the bottle out the window, I threw the cigarette out, the window, through the beer, can out the window. I probably threw the phone out the window to see through it all out moment. But and I just started to cry. I just started to weep and I I just said, God, I can't do this anymore. I'm done. I know I had before this, I had I had checked out and other religions I had gone to a mosque. So it's that was what I was checking in. Islam was checking a Judaism.

I was checking into Buddhist, I don't know if you know this but there is a religion dedicated to the dude from Big Lebowski there's a whole religion related to dudeism but that's what they call it. I looked into that and nothing really seemed to catch my attention but I whoa. Yeah. Like I looked into water.

I spent months trying to figure some stuff out and I didn't want to turn back to God. I was still very angry with them and I was like, there's no way there's no way there's got to be another answer and in that moment when I, you know, in a drunken rage and stupor and seeing that, and I said, I just the first First words out of my mouth reward. I can't do this anymore, God, take it. I can't. I cannot do this anymore and That's out there for a couple hours.

I'm sure. Just crying and so the sun came up and I got now I drove home. And at that point I was like, okay, this is I got to do something different two weeks later, my brother got married. I was his best, man. A pastor friend of mine that I've known for years and actually I was extremely rude to him. I was his Salah Tarsus. You know, I persecuted him for being a Christian because I was angry with God.

And he He officiated the wedding and he kept bugging me for like two days, you know, the rehearsal in the wedding. He's like man, you alright. And I'm like yeah I'm good. Everything's fine again. I was, I was drinking at the wedding and was really messed up and all night had been puppy was like this this prick in the back of my neck. Like something's poking me in the back of the neck saying why

are you lying. We'll just tell this man what's goings, your friend, tell him what's going on and I wouldn't but then I got home that night. And I texted my buddy and was just like, no no I'm lying, I'm full of it. Nothing's right, nothing's good. Everything's just kind of going crazy. And so don't like 30 seconds, he messaged me back and says, listen come meet with me tonight. Are you no waiter tonight and my office, you know, where it is around 6:00, we'll meet, we'll

talk. And we'll see where things are going and I did I, when I met with them and we did some some, some prayer and just talk And I was able to unload a lot of things that have been bothering me and so at that point, you know, I was crying and a baby most of the meeting and then the end of the conversation, like it is, we're getting ready to like, you know, call it a night. And then we're both going to head home. So it's getting kind of late.

I decided to to ask Christ into my heart right there in the moment, had a whole prayer with the Lord and vitamin just it was you got to take over? I just, I have no control, I have no idea what's going on, and I'm just a mess. And so that point I started I met with him for a few more weeks in his office. And then after like, six meetings, I decided to start attending service at Birds Borough Church of the Nazarene that's where he was pastoring at

the time and Got there. You know, started started healing and started being filled. And really just getting, you know, the information and the parts of the white, my life that I hadn't been receiving, and it

was pretty amazing. And at that point, I had to realize that I had to answer a call in that, I have been receiving since I was a little kid since about 6 or 7 years old, and it was a calling to Pastor the preach and I couldn't ignore it anymore, it was just too much, it was too heavy on me. It was in my heart and on my mind at all times. And so I just gave in and I started the process and it's a whole process. I mean every church has their process and they were issues and

bumps. Along the way there was, you know, issues of financial aid for schooling and stuff. And a lot of stuff that, you know, kept me from. But the thing is, I knew that God had me going in the direction he wanted me. So I wasn't going to let me, let me. Down at that point. So just kept moving forward. I kept plugging for and wherever I couldn't get done in the moment like some of the stuff with the government and financial aid and stuff.

I had to push past, I had to keep going and then there was a other programs that came along that was able to help out and stuff. So you know, I'm still going along doing doing my process to get ordained. They still have a couple years more classes to do, but I know I'm definitely heading in the right direction now and going where it where God is leading me. That's pretty amazing feeling to know that no matter what you've done, no matter where you've been what you've come from.

Even when you don't want God to be in your situation, I don't want to be part of your life, you don't want him to have anything to do with them, he literally will stand there and just wait and just be like, I've been here the whole time but whatever I can do to help you out, that's what I'm here for. And that's just an amazing feeling that, you know, even in the bad times, you've always got Christ in a right there with you. Yeah. That's that's such a powerful testimony.

I mean Just listening to everything that you went through, you know, like you lose your mother when you're young, you spend 20 years in the world just chasing everything that was not meant for you and and how enter your grandmother had like kind of like prophesied like she used her her terms from, you know, the Catholic background above what she thought you were going to be. But and, you know, sometimes people around us, they're going to pick up on the fact that

there's an anointing on her life even Even though it can look really rough and ugly on the outside and then, you know, you go through this. Like, I mean you're single dad, like you're taking care of your kids. Yeah, if you are literally at this place we're in your testimony or winding down to the end of your way of doing things. And starting to understand the calling and where you are today.

I mean it's just fascinating because there's so many people I talk to off air or even on air and it's just like that story shows. Different details, different places different names and different extreme aspects but there's something to it. When the men and women who are being called by the Living, God start to wake up and understand the truth is definitely Stranger Than Fiction. There's something more going on here.

I can't keep living the way that I have been living, and it's edifying to hear that because there's there's a listener. Out there, I just know it. I know there's somebody out there who's going to be able to relate to your story. So, showing I want to ask you with the prodigal sons podcast. Now you guys are local to me. I actually moved out of the neighborhood like two months ago, currently residing at an

undisclosed location. Still in the Southeastern Pennsylvania area taking that line from l.a. Marzulli. I want to ask you about the show. You got a couple host you guys. Come together. You just kind of rough it and just raw material content. Just expressing what you guys are going through and rustling through all these ideas Brothers together in unity. Tell us tell us about the show. Tell us about your show so I have prodigal sons.

Yeah, we've been at it, we started actually during the pandemic March 20 2008 right at the beginning of the pandemic, right? As everything's the everything's hitting the fan so to say God just put it on me like to do. Like a radio show or something. And I went to another gentleman in the church and brought the idea to him like, Hey would you

do this with me? And he was on board and I had a there was a radio station down in Conshohocken that a couple Pastor friends of mine ran and we're going to jump in with them. We're going to get a slot time slot on there you know on their at their state and their studio and when I called to get air time, you know they were like hey with some we apologize but we're closing the studio like

the rent. Got ridiculous and not willing to work with us. They just don't want us here and things are not going to you know we're shutting everything down. We're actually going to move on from this and it's kind of like it was kind of a gut punch and So, I went back and talk to my pastor and we prayed with over it and I said, you know, pastor Pastor Peter Clark, I said Pete, you know, we really need to, I need to do something, I need to find a way to do this.

So I can, you know, you know, anybody in the Nazarene Church.

It does something like this and he goes, I don't know anybody, he goes but We have room there was four rooms in the basement of our church that were kind of not used very much, nice clean spaces but just unused, you know, a lot of churches have these unused rooms sometimes we had so like four rooms and so he said you're more than welcome because the church will help purchase equipment and you know, whatever you need, let's get it

going. Like I really think this will help especially with this pandemics going on you know you get the word out but you don't have to, you know, people have to come and that you can get just get it out and people can hear this information. So, We announced it at a Sunday service that we were going to look into doing this. And if anybody wanted to help help us build the studio paint, stuff like that. And that afternoon, I got a text from Dave Duncan who's on the show with me.

He text and say he was I was a lot of podcast. I'm really like I'd like to be able to help with this if I can like you know, even it's just like a producer or behind the scene stuff and sounds like yeah, man, we're meeting Wednesday night. Come on down and then I spoke to Pastor Tom Vera. And I asked him because I felt like God was calling him into the situation and we had another

Gentleman on the show. That started with me John, I immediately went to the idea with and so we said we got started and we started doing the show and things were the first that we met. My son was with me. Was me Dave, this other gentleman, Tom me, and my son and Pastor Pete, and my son or setting up a cell phone and like we have, we really had some bad equipment when we first, we didn't have a whole lot. We had no mixing board from the

church. That was kind of beat up and we just got an audio interface like an audio input for four mics and that plugged into an old cellphone that somebody had, and that's what we use. We use an old cellphone and we just went on Facebook live, and then we downloaded that recording to like my laptop. And then we put that out on anchor to the podcast platforms. But so, we did that. And then we brought another Elijah Griffin. Who's on the show still who's with us?

Now, he's our fourth and you know, we just came up with this idea in the beginning that it was going to be prodigal sons. We were all from different backgrounds and we'd all kind of had that product a wife like me where I was 20 years away from the Lord. And then he brought me back in and all the other for the other three gentlemen also have those kind of similar backstories. So when we prodigal sons and and our motto is Real Real Men, Real Faith, real talk and you know,

so we who are who we are. If you met me on the street, I'm the same guy on the show that I am on the street. So these guys, we just, we share our faith and we just want, you know, we're kind of, you know, if you watch the podcast it's like a mix of Impractical Jokers and a couple of pastors. We really, just tell all the jokes and we pick on each other.

We're brothers. So we, you know, we pick on each other and if anybody does anything during the week that we find to be funny, you know, somebody does something. So, you know, something, ridiculous, or we bring it up, we talk about it. We don't hold it. Act like, you know, we just we just bring it up. I've had issues where, you know, unfortunately driving is a big pet peeve of mine. I tend to get a little bit of

road rage. I get a little aggravated with bad drivers and so like I yell, I know they can't hear me but I yell anyway. And that comes up a lot on the show and you know, because I tell them we tell each other everything so they know. So they always bring it out with, you know, we just, it's really a really good accountability group for me, and for the into the other guys, as

well. Keep keep ourselves in check and having that Fellowship to keep us grounded in together and move into forward in the same direction. We're all called to do the same thing with this with this podcast and it's just been amazing. Like I said it's been Shu. It's been almost three years Marshall, be three years and wrote 122 episodes in. And, you know, at one point we're kind of, like, do we do this? Like, is there still more

topics? We can talk about, we've been doing this for a long time and then, you know, God's like really all the things that I have in the Bible and you guys are done run coming up with topics, all the things that happen in the world on a daily basis, you guys can't think of a good topic to come up with and sure enough. But we know we went back to the drawing board and came up with a new plan for how we come up. Topics. And so they just keep coming. So it keeps providing and it's

been. It's been an amazing experience. Just to be a part of it because we've had people come up. I was in Walmart here by in Exeter kind of near where I live and I have my prodigal sons t-shirt on with our logo on it. And this woman walked up and she's like, oh, I love the shirt. Where did you get it?

And I said, oh well and then she looks at me and I started to talk She was awake, you're the guy from the show, her father listens to us. He's a pastor in the reading area and he listens to us and she recognized me because he makes her watch it once in a while that's awesome. Yeah, it was kind of neat like, you know, and she kind of went into, like, how it, how it affect her father's. He was older. She was about my age. I'm in my mid-40s early to mid 40s.

She was about my age. I'm going to say she was in her mid to early 30s, honor respect, but she was so her father was An older Pastor, who was kind of, I don't believe he was now fully at the end of his career. But he was kind of at like, the way she was telling me like he was at a point where he was like, considering retiring somehow he found us and he was a couple of, you know, a couple of us are pastors on the show. Dave has reached before, he's not, he's not going forward

nature, anybody, preaches. He preaches on a fairly consistent basis, like once or twice a year, three times a year, and he goes to other churches. Other pastors in the district, calling him to preach and It was this older past, it was kind of like listen to us. And by the grace of God, he found a renewed sense of spirit in his calling, which to me, was just mind-blowing to this gentleman, who's been doing it for years.

Find something, and us being goofballs, and being ourselves and making jokes, and and being biblical. At the same time, bringing it, bringing in stories and sharing our experiences. But I think that's really what it's about. I mean, if we're not sharing our experiences and we're not talking about the truth of what happens, like, If we just try to make Christianity all sunshine and rainbows, I think we're letting a lot of people down, absolutely, you know, we're feeling new Christians.

If we pretend that it's all sunshine and rainbows, and we're not human, like pastor does not mean above, there's nowhere in the in that title, there's nowhere in that, that means above the people. Like, you know, I think sometimes, unfortunately, we tend to put pastors on a pedestal because Because, you know, they're called to preach and they're called to teach and we're called to lead, but that doesn't make. Any any difference to God? We're still almost always showed me love this.

Whole the same. And I think sometimes we forget that and we think that sometimes pastors are our God like more holy for some reason. And that's one of the things I've had to learn over the last couple of years and not that I've ever let being a pastor, go to my head but trying to keep people in check like read the Bible, you're a minister just as much as I am, we're all called to Ministry. We're all called to minister to those who don't who do No Christ. So we're all ministers.

I've just been asked to speak in front of the congregation. That's the only real difference. I understand. Yes we do. We do you know we hold to a higher respect. You know how higher standard and you want in your lead? But we're all, we're all ministers, we're all supposed to minister. So everybody's job is diminish. There's just a different calling and I think we all have a calling but I think some of us are called to do something just a little bit different.

And I think that's a big thing. Remember That We're All in This Road Together. We're all heading in the same direction, and if we forget to stop at the roadside and pick somebody up, Who's down, or at least just talk with them, you know, so they get encouragement along the way. And sometimes we need to share when we're down and get encouragement and be lifted up. I mean, Moses even had Aaron and Hur to lift his arms when he couldn't, when he couldn't hold

him up anymore. I think there's a lot of times that we forget his Christians. It's not Sunshine's rainbows and it drags us into a position where we can be drug down because we're Pride Prides a big one you know nobody wants to admit their dirty little secrets or when they're hurt or being bothering. I think we kind of just push that to the side and we pretend like it didn't happen and we don't want to deal with it. And I think that's that's where

we missed the point. I think we're in this together. We're families, were brothers and sisters, like there is nothing that has happened in my life that I should not be able to tell you or tell somebody that listens to this podcast or my podcast that you know me and my rose. They could call in Hey, listen, I heard what you said but I don't understand how I can do that and we can talk about that.

Tell me what your problems are. You know, for Me, Like Jesus said, my yoke is light and my burden or my yoke is easy. And my burden is light. I think we forget when we start sharing that information, those hard times, the things that are that are beating us up the things that are dragging us down. When we share that, it literally lightens our load. It doesn't make it heavier. It doesn't make it harder to deal with.

I've been going through it for the last, you know, six months to a year now, where some things have happened in my life and in my church life, and it just kind of beat me up and Drug me down. And I kind of gave into because, you know, my work as I'm not a, I'm not a paid Pastor, I work a secular job and it's been brutal. It got been one person for I do maintenance work. And I've 66 house in responsible for. So I got burned out in my work

life. Send translated over into my spiritual life and my emotional life and it just beat me down and beat me down. Instead of going to my brothers and sisters, instead of going to my pastor and I just kept thinking, man, I'll get through this, I just gotta carry me through this God will bring me the in. God does bring us through it, don't get there. Were days that I should have been able to take it. Two steps out my front door, but he kept me going.

But if we're not sharing our burdens with one another, if we're not leaning on one another, if we're not sharing our experiences so other people can, you know can be brought up through something that we've shared. Are so, maybe they don't hit those. Those bumps in the road that we do it.

Did that makes our journey so much more difficult and the problem is you can't see spiritual warfare, so when you let something affect you and it's it's there, the enemy will use that and sometimes the enemy doesn't matter. Sometimes the stuff that we do has nothing to do with the Enemy. We beat ourselves up more than the denim. We will half the time. Anyway, we are harder on ourselves and we get ourselves in a more trouble than the enemy. Ever will have to have his job is done.

Sometimes, It's because of what we think inside our own heads, where owners, worst enemy, sometimes, but spiritual for is real. And when you start to, for me, I know, I was fighting it because I wasn't sharing, because I wasn't leaning in. I hadn't been attending church for four weeks, and when you start to disconnect, you start

to recluse yourself. God doesn't walk away but it's a lot harder for the Holy Spirit to work through you into work through other people with you to help lift you up and encourage you, because they don't know what's going on because you're not sharing and for me, that's what I did. And it was like, quicksand. Like I was just felt like I was on this island by myself, and it started to sink and I was drowning by myself out there alone.

Now we know that's not true, but we know the enemy will take that and he will build upon that. He will be was press into that he'll twist it and manipulate it and makes us just want to say I just want to recluse herself just back off and we run you know a lot like Jonah God gives us this this this task this this process this journey And something happens, and it doesn't go the way we want. Or, you know, somebody says something we didn't like about it.

We just we run and we try to hide from it instead of pressing into it. So maybe I can't carry this burden by myself. But if I had asked for help, if I'd reached out how much easier would have been for me to go forward, I wouldn't have been in the whale and the belly of the whale for six months, eight months a year. So there's there's many different seasons in the Christian walk. Oh definitely.

And in my experience like there's there's definitely times where we're meant to be in the desert Because God doesn't want any other voices in her head other than his? And then there's times where it's, like, and I mentioned this on another episode. Where's like when David in the men come in and they're out, they're exposing the enemy like Warfare and they come in and they eat the showbread off the table because they're like, look were starving.

And I think with the body of Christ, well, like we need to like see it from this aspect of like when a brother comes in from the desert. Bert, who's got the gift of healing, the gift of servitude, right? Or because we might need some wounds wrapped. And then who's, you know, the encourager and there should be

many. Many of those gifts within the meeting places but what you're saying I can relate to some of it. And what I was thinking is just, it's hard sometimes to put all the stock in just a fellowship because God may want to say, Wanting to us that nobody else can hear. And then there's times where we need nothing more than to be with Brothers, dwelling together in unity. So I love hearing those experiences and just I'm saying that more for the listeners and

a reminder to myself. And for you Pastor showing because there's many different ways that God is doing things that doesn't make sense to us. But when we get together and we encourage each other like just, you know, another local podcaster, you know, you guys Are over there, doing awesome stuff on the prodigal, son. I love the sense of humor. I've listened to a couple episodes and you put out a lot

of content. I've probably listen to, like, five to seven of your shows, over the last like, year or two and I've liked everything I heard. It's for me, I'm like, yo that's should be like the after-hours spot on the Sunday when Church closes, like everybody's like, get out of here. I'm trying to go to the waffle place, right? I'm trying to hide. There's a sale over it. Season. I'm like, I don't even congregate with people like

that. First of all, you know, more or less like, in the gutter with people that are limping around prophesying and and fighting spiritual battles, and educating ourselves, so that we can be Iron worthy to sharpen on other iron. But when I hear what you guys are doing, I'm like man, if I was attending all the time locally at like a building, I would want like church to end and grab a coffee and like that. Be the conversation. Like what you guys are doing it? Like another the humor and then

you're tackling. Are real issues, real topics, real ideas. So I definitely feel like there's going to be a part. Two down the road. I would love to even like link up at some point in time with like all the guys that you're on the panel with over there on the show were really. There's a lot that I can't divulge on right now, but a lot going on behind the scenes and it kind of like the Christian and the Christian Fringe seen.

You know this is like all around the country at this point but I love identifying like, who's who, where we at? And let's lock arms. Wright brothers dwelling together in unity. And I think the four of you over there on the show are demonstrating that they just being real. Having a sense of humor, you know, and diving into these real topics and just sharing each other's testimonies that's encouraging for me.

So, I got to kind of wind down here with you, Sean, but I want you to just answer this for me and the listeners if you had one. Last message you could give to the body of Christ. God was like listen. This is the last time I'm going to have you on air. I know you love doing this. I'm calling you into deeper waters. What would you say to the body

of Christ? And you're going to give me preaching here soon, but I'll try and keep it short because there is there's some main points that I've learned over over the last, you know, eight or nine years of one, never lose your faith. Always trust a no matter what you're going through, no matter how deep the water The Lord will always part it for you. It may not be the way you look, it may not be the way you want but he's going to part that

bought water for you. If you have the faith of a mustard seed since we're here, he will move a mountain if you wanted to. It may not be the whole Mountain will not jump up and get into the ocean. But one rock one Boulder, one ton of sand at a time he's going to move that thing little by little by little. And sometimes we just have to be patient. Always keep your faith, always trust that God is going to do

exactly. Actually what he said he's going to do. Don't worry about it in your time because you'll never get there if you try to worry about it from the human perspective and from the human time, trust that God is going to move. If he has to move it one Pebble at a time, he's going to do it or he's going to move the whole Mountain if he needs to move the whole mountain, right then and there but keep the faith, no matter what happens.

Because coming through, on the other side of the mountain is always going to be peace and joy, you can always you're going to have a life of frustration. You're going to have a life of chaos, but keep your faith and keep Keep moving forward to the peace, and the joy that he provides. Very well said, man that there's some wisdom and season and that

for sure. Do you want to let the listeners know where they can find a link to your guys podcast over there on the prodigal sons and anything else you like just closes out here anything else you want to share with us before we get off and I just I appreciate it. Gave me an opportunity to come on and talk with you. We've talked a few times, we've been trying to do this for a minute, trying to get together and we finally got together.

Even had some small issues tonight be trying to get home and get on there too. This and we had some issues but God is good and here we are but yeah you can find us live at 6:30 Eastern Time on Facebook at prodigal son show and then you can catch us anywhere that you listen your favorite podcast Podcast, Addict, anchor Spotify, Apple music. I know there's others. Those are the big ones. I can think of off the top of my head, but it prodigal sons podcast. Our logo is black background

with the teal woven cross. And it says, Real Men, Real Faith, real talk. That's our logo again. Thanks for I'm me on and yeah, definitely get you over on our show man because you bring a different element. Some of the stuff you talked about it on her show with the the Supernatural and stuff. More relates to me than so much

rest of my podcast crew. But I'd love to get you on there and have that conversation and let them kind of chimed in to see where they're at. Because I don't think we really had that kind of conversation. I think kind of we skirt that because I don't think that's one of their big issue but I've had a lot of experiences so I definitely have to get back together with you talk about that sometime. Thank you for the kind words and it was an honor to have you.

Roma show with me. And yeah, anytime you want me to come rock the boat and possibly sink it over there with the prodigal sons. Just let me know. We got crazy bleep in the corner, he'll calm the storm. Well, that's it. That's the show everybody. If you found this edifying, you heard something through Pastor Sean's, testimony his journey. What he's going through and dealing with, and it resonated with you, share it with a

friend, family members. Share this with you or text coming soon from Southeastern Pennsylvania. God Bless America. Goodbye. Hey, how are you? This is Pastor Sean Conway from the cross. Hey, how are you? This is Pastor Sean Conway from the cross.

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