ANTHOLOGIES ATTACK! - Sin City

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stories are won and greater than the sum of their parts. Speaking of parts, I'm only one small part. I'm Father Malone, Johnny Me. Here in the midnight view is Antonio Lapour? Hey there, Father Malone, Hey there? Yes, all right now, listen, I need everyone to cast their mind back, your comic addicted mind back to them golden days, those olden days of two thousand and five. Countries at war are cultures in free fall? What were the comic book movies in those nascent days before the ascendants

of the NFU. These are the comic book movies of two thousand and five. Constantine, Son of the Mass. It counts. It's a dark horse. Yeah, Batman begins Fantastic four Sky High, which was an original by business sucrehero Place as they forded and come out in two thousand and four. No, I feel like it's a wasted opportunity. Of course it was quick. It's like not releasing the new one and this year. But that's kind of sums up that whole movie, doesn't that. Yeah, also a History

of Violence. Oh yeah, that's a great movie and based on based photographic novel Peruana Press Comic. Yeah, also gave us Roder Pradition and Flux. We had the live action version in Flux that year. I know, let's at the better, but we also had the feature that we're talking about today, which is also happens to be an anthology film in the corner. Just talk, it'll be nice. You just gone and Don and Dumbness singing your whole The truth of sim City will be shattered. Let the girl go.

You know who my father is. You can't do a thing to me your heart again. There'll be a risk. Nothing you can stop this time to prove to your friends that you're worth it down, We'll fight the cops and the mobs. We'll go to water. This is something Barter room, bro, this is a bad day. You're nothing, You're back. You're making

a big mistake. Now you already made a big mistake yourself. The heart up with a decent engine and make sure it's got a big trunk. From two thousand and five released on April. The First two thousand and five written and directed by Robert Rodriguez and Frank Miller, with special guest director Quentin Tarantino. We're talking about Sin City. Dun Dun Dun Dun, Dun, Dun, Dun, Dun, Dun, Dun, Dun, Dun dun dun dun dun. However that goes. I do like that baseline though, that was

pretty much it. Yeah, it's Barry Peter Gunn. Yeah, yeah it is. It's so Peter Gunn that it's almost a little insult. Yeah, I you know the I'm just gonna put this on the table right now before we get into the movie. I hate Yeah, it doesn't mean it. You just goes Sin City and then go right into the movie. It's I'm a fan of overtures, but that that opening credit sequence just looks like it was made in premiere or final cut. Oh we zoom out from the buildings.

Yeah, the buildings and stuff. That's great. The title is beautiful, but it goes into the overture and the credits look like they're done at thirty frames a second and they look real kind of like quickly thrown together. And yeah, it has the art. I mean, the art is great, but do we needed I don't think we're just gonna be seeing the art for the next Here's the thing on my movie, Space Detective, which we're gonna talk about a lot, because Sin City was the biggest visual influence on

it, and I'm going from the comic. The black and white style that we kind of employed in Space Detective with splashes of color came from the Frank Muller comic. That was my biggest inspiration was that we do a whole different thing with it. In Space Detective. The characters are all black and white, and then whatever is a light or a laser is in color, and then if they go to a planet or an environment, they may be two toned yellow or something in black. But the Sin City is important to me

creatively, and I feel like that open and in space Detective. We've got a long opening credit sequence that if I go back that if I went back now and we did the movie, probably cut it out because going to the title right into it kind of works. And I think the setup that that that prologue with Josh Hartnett into the title sequence, that's your overture. Oh absolutely, that little three minute sport at the beginning of the thing is everything

to set up the vibe of the movie. So I don't think you need five minutes of titles that are kind of lacklesstirt and the theme is okay, but it's not John Williams or and it's not all this is amazing. Though I do like the baseline. I don't think it needs it can just go

right into hard again. I totally speak with that, Okay. In order to talk about since we have to talk about Frank Miller, now, Frank Miller grew up in Vermont, and you've gone down to New York and in the late seventies he befriended Neil Adams d C kind of became his protege, started penciling at DC. He actually wrote and drew a lot of horror and war comics. One of those work on his weird War stories was seen by Jim Shooter Hubert Marvel, who called d c up said who's this kid and

basically poached him with the promise of lending and pencil. David Yeah, and Frank Miller, and he said, who's this kid. Fran Miller was a kid man. Frank Miller was a comics of vront almost. I think he's not the greatest penciler. He's not the greatest draftsman, so to speak. His stuff is very in his own style. He's more like Jack Kirby than he is Neil Adams before We're gonna be honest here, because his storytelling is all about his pacing and his posing and his storytelling. Man, it's really

good, and it really lends itself to cinema. You know, they're cinematic. He's a writer first, and he's absolutely a writer, and he loves to tell that kind of hard boiled no story. He took Daredevil, who was a bless character and just shot him to the A list man. And if it's amazing, I've reread some of those Daredevils and they really hold up. Man, they're really good. His art is kind of rough when he's inked by Klaus Jensen is probably the best back then. Yeah, because Claus

Jensen was a great anchor. He was a really good draftsman and really complimented his art well if he was pennsiling for Geen Coleman at the time Coleman's running Derek Gene Coleman was yeah great, I know. So he called him of Dracula. That is his most famous work, and it's very like blow. It's very watery, almost like his characters are always like in emotion blur almost, you know what I mean. It's very ethereal his stuff. He didn't

run on Batman in the mid eighties. My first rum that I ever picked up was he was the artist when Colin finally departed Dredeuble, that was his building opportunity. Oh yeah, time of Frank Miller. So that's certainly go Obert. Of course he'd become to prominence bring around in nineteen eighty five. We've talked about it in our Caribbean Synthology episode with Batman The Dark Knight returned. It was an inordinate amount of one offs and covers and stuff in between.

Oh you need it, Like, here's a couple of days, we're ever talking about Frank Roller one of He was my comic book hero when I was a kid. He was my first, the first guy I went out, Oh, I need to get his stuff. The Dark Knight returns You reading it at eleven years old or whatever it is, and my head is melting. It's literally going, I can't believe Batman is like this can be like this this, And I felt naughty because Harry, I'm eleven, twelve

years old and I'm reading this comic book has got boobs in it. Even though they're evil Nazi boobs, there's still boobs and Batman and the Jokers fucking amazing. And I went into all this stuff. If you're curious about Frank Miller, go seek out his Wolverine miniseries, which is as his best art, like his most fun because he's not writing it. Chris Claremont's writing it. But you know, if you saw that, is it the Wolverine where he goes to Japan and he fights this almos. All that stuff is based

on this four issue mini series. My experience was Frank Bellery in nineteen eighty thirteen as freshman in Heights and I hit seen the local Malve went to Liberty Treatment in Danvers, Massachusetts. They didn't have a comic bookshef for the end

of the Dude. We had a limited amount of comics on there, and I first saw issue number two of Batman Dark and picked it up thumbs three, put it back down because I didn't want to start too I wanted a way till WAT should so that I watched three and four come out and didn't never ran into one. So in high school I was I was on fencing team. Oh wow, how cool, I think I have taken elected.

It might as well involve staff. Yeah, before fencing practice, my mother stopped at the Liberty treet mall in the trade paperback that so she drove me to this gymnasium where we were practicing, and I was very early, so she dropped me off and I sent it down to read Batman Dark Knight Returns and completely missed my fencing practice and basically was finishing with the town. My mother drove up again, and it's exactly what you described, because I was

no stranger to adult ideas and comics my then I had. I'd read all the easy stuff, and all not only easy stuff, but there was contemporary course and going on the late sixties, early seventies, escape us, eerie, creepy, and all these very adult things. Not to mention it, not to mention all the other thing. But this was Batman. This was Batman caving in people's skulls and breaking guns apart and dealing with his villains in the most realistic way I ever or had never imagined, because it was never

going to do this. Batman was going to be looted as it in adolescence at beasts. He was never going to be made into an adult. And so yeah, like you right, no became a god to me. Yeah, I think maybe I don't remember if it was Dark Knight Returns or Year one that was my first. I remember you're getting your one very clearly, because I was like maybe eleven twelve, and emotions are starting to change on

you and stuff. And I had a particularly rough day or went for something rough and I was crying a lot or something like I'm trying to make you feel better. She's like, well, well, look, i'll take you to that comic book story you discovered, and I'll let you buy some hot

I'll give you some money for some comic books. Men we'll let you you up a little bit here right ofter, and the there was in the case there was a four pack of Batman comics and it was the year one issues and it was just like they just taken the individual issues and just surran wrapped them and sold them as a five dollar pack and they bought that, mesmerized

by it. And I know The Dark Knight Returns was around the same time, and it was a thirteen dollars comic book, and my mom just rolled their eyes when I asked for you can fucking kidd it for a comic and yeah, and I remember I read that on Saturday afternoon and just I can't put comic books are like this. I did a report on it in the eighth grade a few years later and on the Dark Knight Returns. Yeah, what did you get? Well? Good? Oh, I got an a

because I did. I did a dramatic reading from like when the Joker, even Batman has to snap the Joker's net what and projects always get age? Yeah, and the Joker faces snaps his own neck. Yeah. It brings you back to the brilliant twenty five thirty year old Frank Miller. Let's kind I come up with that there where the Joker, in order to make Batman look bad, kills himself. They'll blame you. Yeah, and then that

ban's good solum. Well, I don't waste time with a goodbye. Yeah, that's great man, very hard or not to mention, the characters in the fun Fair sequence are lotesqueries because Frank Millier loves the villains to be through a test. Nevertheless, this scenario was a jitaker's hands at that voice and cotton candy to everyone. Yeah, it's really horrified and I love that.

I love that shot too, this kind of a low angle and it's looking up at the at the cotton candy booth and it's just free cotton candy, and all these little kids are running up to him. And the Joker is like in his you know, eighties dressed an eighties by Finest suit. He's all angles, see yeah, he's all angles with that big smile in his face, and he's got his little creepy little midget robots, those dolls, those creepy yeah. Yeah, oh yeah yeah, very awf what yeah,

and how great that is. I was always a fan of the Joker is like with the lipstick and the Joker and everything is always taking over a TV show. I mentioned this on our other podcast. It's one of his tropes. And here in the Dark Knight returns by Frank Miller. He takes over the show. Yeah, the David Undercrine show, who is basically just David Letterman, and he's got on doctor Ruth Weisenheimer, was it, yeahs and

Jennifer, Yeah, something like that. And the Joker has his lipstick that he puts on before the show and he kisses the lady and the Jokers got the laced with the vendom and she goes bananas and oh the Batman and Dark Nver turns to the end of the mid one for that sequence. First of all, Conan O'Brien is funny differ, Yeah, which is Greareat. Yeah,

absolutely. But doctor Walper is Michael McKee's Michael McKean, Yes, the great Michael McKean, who he talked about on our last episode, who played the Joker on that episode of Legends of the Dark Knight played the fifties Joker, and he's back here playing doctor Walper. And the guy who plays the Joker on it is Michael Emerson from Lost Right plays it perfect. Yeah, wish love me. I love a quiet joker. Yeah, quiet jokers. Freaking Cameron Monaghan did a really scary quiet Oh yeah, yeah his joker,

his his fake joker. Yeah, there was two of them. More. There was Jeremiah and there was Jerome was all the manifestations crazy Joker and lunatic j and Jeremiah was there would find elegant Joker. I see Jerome is the one that becomes the green haired guy in the last episode. Oh that's Jeremiah. Oh okay, yeah, no, Jerome is killed before it was. Yeah, I don't know. I'm in love with Cameron Monaghan before it really, yeah, it was. He had a lot of fun with it.

In fact, I'll find the name trying to cut her in here. But there's this proto Harley character on the show. Oh yeah, yeah, I remember that. There's a there's a scene with her describing how she became who who she is and because she played a game of abruption Roulett and it went off and the bullet's still in her head and she can hear it that Harley believe he's scared. Let's get out the dark night, because what the he has a falling out of the scene. Oh he does. I'm assuming he

does, because he swears he's never gonna work for them again. Oh wow, I mean, although he eventually does. Yeah, but that's when he splits off to do independent work and starts Dark Horse. Yeah, and it's like nineteen ninety ninety one, ninety two, that's when he does give me the liberty. Oh yeah, give me liberties with Dave Gibbons and with Dave Gibbons of Watchman thing, Martha Washington Man, what a great comic man. It's and one of the more prophetic by the then. Yeah, one of

the more prophetic fight pieces from that era. Curious stick America Civil War going on, Washington the only true American left and with a former crummy president coming back to try to make a comeback as a robot and a brain and a robot body. There was a scene in there where she has to where a space station has been taken over, so she'd send her up to go take it back for us and all of the villains that armed themselves with projunctile weapons

and she brought us sored. They're like, what do you do with that story? I said, can't use your guns, dummy, And then yeah, and those villains are gay biker Nazis. Yes, because the factions in the United States are out of control. Man. Yeah, with the I just remember the Surgeon General just being like they would eventually copy the Scientist and escape from LA. But the Surgeon General is like this mad Sciences is making

over the Eastern Seaboards and calling it he calls it God's Country. Yeah, and there's and there's franchise wars, so like like Bob's Big Boy versus McDonald's or whatever it is, Yeah, taking over the Amazon, and it's all very judged Dred. It very judge Dredd. I'd love. I've been wanting to make a movie out of that since I was in high school. Man, I don't know how it would play today, but like it or a TV show or something. But obviously people on Hume before it, they all

went to see Civil War. Yeah, on the pre the prere they were going to see a silver ware you give him the silvil ward, but you do it in a fun way. It's a very fun way and maddening, but it's also again it's prophetic comics. Who met the comics of the era that pretty prophetic with the sci fi, but that one, really, that one in VI fora vendetta, I think for the most And he also does what else does he do over there? Rusty the Guy Robot, Rusty and

the Big Rusty the boy Robot and Big Guy. That's a little later he does that with Jeff Darrow. Yeah, but that's before. And then he also does the best thing with Jeff Darry does Hard Boiled, which is just the coolest three or four issues of the comic you ever saw. There's barely

any dialogue in it. It's about this robot that works for a corporation and they put a new personality in it every time he gets blown up, and they basically kind of a Blade Runner situation that he goes after rogue robots or something. Really, the plot is so inconsequential, it's just similart by Jeff Darrow that Jeff Darrow was one of the designers in the matrix. Go find

that comic. So religious siens, I mean it's something for me. Yeah, I want to do something that was like Mickey Spalane absolutely Mickey Splaine three times removed. And if you re goo back to the Dark, Knay returns the Dark. Nay returns. What makes it when his most identifying feature. Also in Batman Year one that he wrote greater art by David Mazuchelli on that one. But anyways, he has the voice over a lot of the narration, which is part of noir films. You have a voiceover Fin the character,

and he's the first guy to get in Batman's head. This is what Batman thinks, but he wants he carries that over into because he's Batman like a like a Mickey Splaine character. Yeah he was, he's No, I don't think so. No, I think Dashal Hammetal Hammett kind of what I got from that, But for Sin City one hundred percent, because Hammett and Chandler, those guys were the real deal. The dise flames kind of came up at for them is kind of anything. He may have been a tough

guy or whatever, but he wasn't. He didn't. No, he's not Nasal Hammet or there's no eloquence to me. No, no, but that's he doesn't need to have it. But since that he doesn't either, since he is two fisted and ham handed, and it's fueled on on on on whiskey and somas and cigarettes. Dames and games and drugs. Yeah, and the roorcks. So so this is okay. So he's he starts making Sin City. He's oh you. In an interview I read, he said he

always had his biggest trouble drawing cars and girls. So that kind of helped fuel the subject matter here because he's going to force himself to do nothing but car, yeah, and girl, and he draws the best cars. The cars and those have like such personality too. Man, it's a masterclass on what the comic medium could do. Those Frank Millers and City comics. I mean all negative space. It's just black and white, man, black and white, and then every now and then here's some red or some yellow or

some blue. But for the most part, negative space is the the ki though, And unfortunately that's my what I try to do in space a sect. If I tried to work with that, it's really hard to pull off, and kind of any live action, if you get too high contrasting, then you lose a lot of definition and you get a lot of artifacts to like a lot of pixelation and stuff. See that's what I noticed in the

from film, from comic to film. Yes, they went as far as they could in filmmaking here to recreate the frame and recreate the exact images. But what you're saying is absolutely true. There are tons of backgrounds that they had to put in, Yeah, because because if you're just black, background, white everything else, eventually your mind reels in horror. And Yeah, so you will see building fassans, except whereas Miller didn't need it, he

could get away with just silhouettes. Yeah, for an entire story. So it definitely shows you that if you're gonna adapt in City, I'd like to see it an animation at some point. Apparently, Oh really, Okay, well there you go. But this movie is great. I'm not trying to detract from it at all because I really enjoy this. I've always enjoyed this picture, and it was a big influence on me on technically more than anything how to shoot a green screen thing. So okay, it's his biggest thing

since Dark Knight Returns. Yeah, and the longest running thing because we had tons of issues in the city, all all through Dark Horse percent all throughout the Yeah, all throughout the nineties was all about sin City for them. He snuck in three hundred and there. That's right, that's turned the century. There. Yeah, nine, which is his other Sin City, The Dark Mary Turned Sin City, and three hundred. That's what you need to read. I would argue some of those electra comics too. Yeah, it

was Lectress Ash. It was pretty good, pretty hard car. Yeah, free your character and didn't kill her yeah, and bring her back yeah, and then yeah, I've got Electric Lives again on the shelf. So Ronan too. Yeah. Rodan was one of his early master his early really great books about a samurai who gets sucked into the twenty second century. It's basically

Samurai Jackman. The whole godcept does it differently, but he basically there's a demon in both time periods and then he gets sucked in the future and he's got to deal with it. It's great stuff. As early as nineteen ninety thirty they were trying since feed Yeah, thank god they did. No, it would have been a nightmare. There would have been none of the personality,

the prosthetics. There would be definitely none of the neesan playing. Yeah, they're playing enough like these people, so it'd be just another comic book adaptation. But it can't be. It's two stylized and unless you were gonna go full on League, Blade Runner immersive world. This is not our world. Streets of Fire, Walter Hill, Yeah, I know what's going it's gonna do that. What are you just gonna do? You shoot in La I guess I mean based in the city. The eponymous sin city of the

title is Los Angeles bas Yeah, it's Los Angeles. It's got tar pits, it's got the ocean there, and it's got the Mulholland drivectiply. Yeah. I can't call any movie that I want to make about my hometown, Las Vegas sin City, which is is my only bone to pick. I ever, I'm gonna really with this franchise and these stories. I don't like the word franchise. With these stories, I can't call it sin City. I can't make a movie about Vegas and call it sin city anymore. We're

in sin City. It's literally, it's what we're called selfish Frank Miller Basin City, my ass the Los Angeles base and that being said, though, yeah, it's La Somverstily no film gets made in the meantime. Of course, we all know Robert Rodriguez's story and El Maria she what she made for three thousand dollars. Sure you did seven seven seven. This was here a couple of years older than I was, but I was just starting college and

taking film classes. And Robert Rodriguez was the legend told by the natives in the hills about about the movie making and with him and Kevin Smith. But yeah, Javin Smith and his credit cards and Robert Rodriguer is going to an insane asylum. C Yeah, rubble without a crew dog. Here's the big

secret about that. He shot it for seven thousand dollars. Just toll cost a million bucks because Sony put a million bucks into it after they bought it, and didn't he have access to the locations that were ridiculous, Like he basically had an entire town to shoot in. But I mean, you go into Mexico, you can probably pull that off. That's what I'm saying. The seven thousand dollars if you were shooting in like Detroit, ain't gonna get

you when it goes. That being said, he was our hero basically when we were in school, Like he was like, dude, this dude, this crazy dude from Texas pulled this shit out of his ass and got this huge deal. I'm not done grinding anything because I too, and I stand in awe of him. Yeah, not only then he made it on his own, but he has been incredible visual lot, Yeah, he does. And what I always admired about was he did all himself. Man, is

what I'm like. I know how to run a green screen and do the special effects, and I can cut the picture and all this stuff, and now I can shoot too, like and I did that because I admired him so much, because the way he did it, He's no one's gonna let me do it, so I'm just gonna do it. I And while what he do with Sin City is really amazing, I know, a co directed by Frank Miller and special guest director. Okay, thank you Mirra Max for

that wonderful marketing scheme. But come on, this is Rob Rorigers. His master work is his best movie. It's the one he should be remembered for for doing. For he's the only guy really to make a comic book on the screen. Here's a comic book, and I'm going to make it for you right now. I admire Zach Snyder's three hundred a lot because he kind

of did something similar. He made that comic book. He adapted it pretty well, but Man Sin City Late was the first one to do it, and he took virtual production, which was pioneered by Lucas, and he said, you don't have to beat George Lucas to do this. You can do this yourself. And that's what I did. I find I want a Gris Speer in my garage and see what I can pull out of my butt. Yeah. He had been up until then doing the productions like in the Spy

Kids movies and Shark Boy and Lava Girth. Yeah, and all of those were just practice for this. Yeah, and once he got it, he fucking ran with it. God blissed that he did, Man, because no one else was gonna do it. Yeah. I know who the filmmaker was, because whoever they work and commit in his hardcore as they would do this.

And the whole thing about the co directing thing. Look, he got his panties in a twist about the fucking DGA telling him he can have it, and he resigned from d G and who cares what he At one point he wanted to give Frank Miller the credit, like He'll just give him, yeah, And Frank Miller said, no, I don't want it, No, you take no, let's both who cares, idiots, just get the movie in. Yeah. And Robert Rodriguez is pretty his He really has no ego about it. He's just I don't care, dude, I just want

to make the movie. I just want to have the fun of getting to hang out with Frank Miller for a year and making him man adapting a comic book with him. That's like for him that it was about that journey, I imagine and get what he got came out of it. I admire the love for it, but I would never All I've wanted to do is join the DGA in my whole life. So I don't think I could ever just give that away. But I'm not Robert Rodriguez. Well, Lucas didn't.

Lucas did too, Yeah, because because Star Wars that you couldn't. He want the credits at the end, at the beginning, so he resigns med and then but then again that's an artistic choice. Man. I can't respect George least George Lucas broke the fucking the code there, because man, how many fl don't have to? Yeah forgetting And I admire Rodriguez, so you stick to your guns man. But again, I mean, how much fucking print will? How much was he on the scent Tom? And what lens

do you? Yeah, I mean it's quaint and God bless him and whatever, and you got to hang out with your idol, but don't make him the code around it. He said, he's answering some questions about the characters from me. It's head, that's all he's doing. But all respect Yeah, Robert, I would have nominated Rodriguez for an Oscar for this movie because it's absolutely he should have been. This is one of the finest this everybody's well, Chris Nolan, the king of the comic book movie, fuck you,

then Robert Rodriguez did it. I'm annoyed that Robert Rodriguez hasn't done a Marvel movie yet and hasn't done a DC movie, because I mean, he's born for it. Everybody poo poos a lot about Boba Fett, but I think Boba Fett was a mess because there was a lot of transition going on there and they had to cancel shows and they had to fire if they fired some foks. His episode, Mandalorian, his episode is the best episode,

and those last two episodes. I mean, a lot of the Bubbaffett Show is great, and that thing when bull Effect comes writing in on the rank court like thank you for making me for pleasing eight year old me who wanted to see Bubbaffet do something like that. So all the best for Robber Arms, as far as I turned this movie is, it is well, let's get into it. Yeah, there is one thing I didn't notice about it. Yes, it's really fast. You think it's more than two hours,

I know, but it doesn't feel it at all. The pacing on this movie is like a line of cocaine. It is. But if you ever read a Sin City comic book and I was still playing in my head because I'm like, slowed it, slow down, and I'm like, no, I remember, I would burn through those Sin City comic books in five minutes and then read them again. Yeah, because again you burn through them. They're designed like that almost because it's a lot of single splash pages, minimal

dialogue sometimes sometimes a lot of what'sover. But yeah, they're really quick books. I find myself some time just doing a dialogue pass through a comic and then doing the artwork paths or vice versa. Sometimes one screams over the other and rereadable too, like you should go back to them and reread them over and over again. They were always a lot of fun. I was a prejectionist when Cincinney came out. So I saw this movie, Oh wow, And then I went to the drive Indigo see it because I had to see

it. And that's setting with the perfect place. Yeah, oh wow, yeah they should wow, yeah wow. That's but okay, so the story is adapted here. They chose three stories and then the one that you mentioned was just sort of the test film that they made, the Little Three Men. At the beginning that story is called the Customers Always right, that's stirring the hitman and his prey, and turns that she hired him. Maybe I think I think that's hire them. He hires him because who knows why,

But anyway, she's like, i'll cash your check in the morning. Right, it's just a proof of concept. Real that happens to be so fucking good that why wouldn't they put him? Yeah, and you know a second, Josh Hart, and I feel, yeah, we lost twenty years a really good leading man there with him. I get it. If he made his own choice, he's like, I don't want to be Batman. I don't want to be that famous. I don't want to be Spider Man. I don't want to be that famous. And I can respect that, but

damn, that's too bad. It is. But everyone should watch Penny Dreadful. He's great on Penny Dreadful. He's great on Penny Trick. He's great Py Dreadful. He can want it, goes off the rails, he's still there. I was unassure of that guy. Yeah, I know he's good. When I watched that show, I was like, he's got it, He's got the Vimmins. Yeah, it's too bad. I feel like of my contemporaries that were actors, he was really really strong, and I would

have preferred seeing him play all those Leonarda, Gabrielle roles. Did you imagine him in the Revenue? Oh that would have been so good. He would have good. Yeah. Actually, so I'm glad he's back. Yeah. I wasn't a fan, too big of a fan of Oppenheimer, but I was really happy to see him. Well he's almost good. Yeah, yeah, I mean dud so the customers always right said rap around story, but then they chose the hard Goodbye, the Big Fan Kill, and then the

Ollen Bunch. Those are the three best. Yeah, although I like the Dave mckill four a lot because I love the Dwight running around with the bandages on his face. What a great visual that is, is that right? Yeah? But the adaptation wasn't very good. No, it was not. But the Marv story here, which is the big fat Kale, is the hard goodbye, the hard goodbye. Yeah. I like the Mars story more. I like this participation mar oh really yeah, because well we'll get to

it. But I have a problem with Frank Miller's depiction the ladies, which are either sex a jects or sent worth it. Yeah, I mean this was something in watching it now, I was noticing that too. I'm like, wow, they're all The only one who isn't is the Carl Gugino. Right, it was a da I mean it was a parole officer. But even she functions all yeah, and she's yeah a facilitator and then a with mom and then and then and Nancy and Hartigan's relationship is weird, super weird.

And that's something that that Frank Miller has floated around a lot. He loves old guys, and those young girls. He loves that dynamic and it's a little weird and prostitution. What's Selena Kyle and she's returns. Yes, a madam. Yeah, she's a madam and in year one she's a dominatrix. So that's why. And I think like The Dame to Kill for a story, if it had been put into Sin City, the first one, I think it would be a perfect movie. Yeah, that's where they end.

It's like Dwight, he teams up with Dwight and yeah, and he goes he fucking recent. Yeah, it's great, so we still get all of the crazy mad but this Mark, but the Hard Goodbuye is the first and Sin City comic. No, no, it actually needs to be there. I'm just saying where the story goes fun in yeah, and getting to kill for it because he's just counted a Rome. But I don't mind Heartbroken

Marv. I don't mind Mark going to the fucking electric chair. I just I just don't like hanging old Yeah, it's and the dam to Kill four. Yeah, it's all in old Town. Well, but at least they're killing people in the Yeah, but the Eva Green character, at least it is a female character with agency, right, it's under ended whatever, who cares? That's what if m Fetale is supposed to be she's the only girl of the only woman out there fucking doing shit making an everyone else is just

waiting for man to help them or being used by men. Because what's crazy to me about the whole Old time Look, let's put it out there. Old Town is basically the slummy area where all the sex workers have gone there. There's a truce between net and the police when the police don't go to Old Town or they're getting fucking killed. And I don't understand what the truth is because I don't know what the cops are they being paid, Yeah,

and they again, what does she say? Right now? The cops get free entertained it when they throw a party, Okay, so they get to fuck for free and then and imagine like cops fuck hookers are free anyways, right, so there's no chance like we're doing that any anyway. Oh yeah, no, I have this ship makes any sense. It's young people talk about problematic and yeah, everything is now I guess nowadays. But yeah,

no, I watched this movie again and I love this movie. But yeah, it's definitely there are no, no empowered women in it, and all the women's are, all the ladies are victims in it all up, like all the prostitutes, even the strongest one, the strongest lady in it is is Rosario Dawson Dale, who's in charge of old Town and all of this stuff, and it's all but it's bossing Dwight around until he punches her and

then she's like, oh, I love you. Did I just see in the politics and not misbving the strong suits and they and we could only blame him here because it's Spreight adaptation, a transcription, if you will, from screen. So maybe, yeah, maybe I think Dame Ly Killed four would have been a better but then it would have just been a whole It just would have been a lot of Marv though. Yeah, I could deal with that. Yeah, we're still Twine, he's still in there. Yeah is

that okay? So that's okay, but it's getting the march there Mickey Royer, Wow right, yeah what Yeah? I mean, Look, I've been a Mickey York fan from fucking Dane one since a diner. I've always been a Yeah, he's great at it. But like the framing sequence of the movie, though, it was before we get to Mickey york Is. It starts with It's got almost two framing sequences. Oh right, yeah, we

didn't start with Marv. Yeah, we gotta start with Hardigan. Yeah, because it's what Josh Hartnett's hit Man shows up again at the end of the at the end of the picture. So it's like there's two framing Yeah, there's two book ends. Are just gonna be weird. But it plays okay, it plays great actually because okay, so we started with Hardigan on his last day, yeah job, but basically he's gonna say young Nancy from a

serial killer or a pedophile who happens to be a nick stung. Yeah, playing one of the Rourke family here in Basin City of the Rourkes are the Kennedys, basically, but a much more crime oriented more than usual than Kennedy's sort of situation. And here's the youngest and there do well Son, who's a fucking psychopath and child well, yeah, the Kennedy's, and they were they were crooks and then became legitim Oh yeah, they were bootleggers, players,

Yeah, and then they became legitimate more or less afterwards. But so he said, but these guys are like eternal criminals. Yeah. Yeah, I mean I think they're like, yeah, they're Yeah, absolutely, there's a good analogy. So okay, here's the one thing this almost makes me turn the movie off. The opening lines of dialogue between Muncle Madson and Bruce Arey, where Muncle Maddison is an exposition machine who tells us everything that Brice

Willis has just told us. Invoice every Yeah, and you're pushing sixty. Yeah, he get a bum ticker. Okay, can we think is it me? Or can is Michael Madson only ever good in Tarantino movies? No, that's not true, because he's great and fell on Louise and he's good on those Bond movies too, and he did a biker movie with Charlie Sheen Club not Above the Law but something like that, which he's fucking great, and he's terrible in this. He's great in war Games. It's Orgames.

He's in the opening Turn your key, sir, that's Michael Manson. That is right, Oh my god, wow, because he's terrible in this. Oh he's No, it's the characters, it's the Bond. Yeah, I don't care who we're gonna stick on that stick in that role. It was push at sixty with a bum digger. I always arm with that whole NIGHTE

that sound normal. I casting Bruce Willis is great, but I feel like, man, it was nobody bigger because hard again is Batman is like he's knowing I mean what I mean, he's Batman, He's a dark Man, returns Batman and like he's Batman. Marv two is another, like they're both kind of in that same big size guy and Dwight is definitely Superman. But so I feel like Hardigan should have been bigger. But his performance is great.

Oh yeah, and it's one of his I think Bruce Willis's best performance is still Paul Fiction, but this is is up there bull Fiction to die hard. Yeah, yeah, are the ones twelve Monkeys have Twelve Monkeys is good? Okay, So all right, So Harrigan's gonna say the girl blah blah blah, shoot Nix style a bunch of times. Love the White Blood. Yeah, it's great. Love the White Blood splatters this it's such a

neat trick. It's like what the Rimero did Creep Show, which is he just put red lights on every scene that We're gonna have blood so water pouring, so it's like, fuck you, m p a A. He had Nick Stalls really good. I feel like he didn't really work much either, like he did Twelve Monkeys the TV show, but he's really good. He gives a really one hinge performance in this, and he's really creepy, and I think he's definitely gonna rape that little, poor little overall, I think

his problem might be that creep factor just seeds inherent. He's got Urt Tanilson from a brand lead. Joz was one of the nineteen different John Connors, like Jeremy Davies like that. Oh yeah, yeah, creep, yeah, creep. Just don't let him near kids. I love these guys. I think they are could talented, but good lord. Okay, so basically I really liked writing in this. I liked this. It's such everything here is

a noir trope. We've seen it all a million times. But Cardigan shot to pieces by his backstabbing, back shooting partner Michael Madison, is just trying to stall for time to keep Nancy lived. Because as soon as the authorities, the rest of the authorities, the police, the the ambulance, Nancy's gonna be okay because if he dies beforehand, get shot fucking yeah, dumped

in that, it's yeah, it's very macho. This is rob This is like one of the This is one of the most macho movies of the twenty ver century because I just can't stop thinking, there's no fem fatale in that. Not one. The closest thing is galling Gale is not a fem fatale.

Not even now. I want to go cut into the Dame mc killfour and it can That's the before you know, when I went to rewatch this, I watched the recut extended version, right, have you watched that's the one where you just watched the individual watched the four individual service, I have it. Hated it. Yeah, it doesn't work, right, I know it doesn't. It doesn't. If this were a TV series, I'd be

like, well, maybe I'll tune in the sleeping. But the hard we want in particular is what does not work, because that if you fall away in one through line where he dies effectively here in this opening, yeah, and then the next scene is him just being kicked around by cops, I'm like, well, what the fact? In my mind as a viewer for

the first time watching that movie hard again as a fair trade. He lived long enough, that's a noble sacrifice, and it it comes back to you're like, holy shit, he's still not an awesome by the end of the week. I love them. Yeah, it's a I think that's a great that's a great piece. I like the structure a lot, you know what I mean, Like the structure is almost REMANI isn't of pulp fiction. I was thinking that this was a spiritual successor a pulp fiction almost like it's almost

a decade apart and they're basically kind of telling the same story. There's the same movie. It's nice neo nore about la right, and the sort of some title that pulp fiction script was like three stories about one story. Yeah, so yeah, no, And I totally get that. Fine, And I love when an anthology can tie itself back into itself without being overly prencious about Yeah, because these characters in these situations bump up against each other.

There are scenes where all the characters are present in the same scene, not even interacting with one and the love I don't need more than that. I wouldn't mind as an editor, it would be kind of fun to take that and like maybe recut it a little bit, because I remember in my head a little bit that I thought these movie intercut more, and they don't intercut

at all. They're just straightforward. The only one that that is its own thing that splits up is that Yellow Bastard, which is the greatest title in history. What a great title, that Yellow Bastard. Eh Oh. And then to just make it literal, Yeah, pretty good. Yeah, it's pretty great. But we're that's later in the movie. Yeah, well, in order, so we have his great little opening here with Hargiguin and the little girl met. The girl's really good man. Yeah, I really enjoyed

it. She's not bocious, she's not precocious shows this is the end GiB Yeah, She's not like Dakota Fanning in uh War of the World. No, it just seems like a little girl situation. Yeah, I understand. Yeah, And Bruce Willis's delivery is just always really good in it, and Bruce willis Is performing makes the relationship less creepy because it is one turn on yeah until she turns me, you know, but we'll get to that. We'll get to that later. And so we get into from here. So

he's left for dead and the audience thinks he's dead. But at least a little girl is safe because she hears other cops there on to r Yeah. Now, man, Mickey Rourke, how do you go from being the handsomest guy in Hollywood to not being the handsomest guy in Hollywood? Like him? May spend the nineties in a boxing He's a weird dude. He is a weird fucking guy. Yeah, but he's one hundred people and on. You

know who reminds me of him is Tom Hardy? Yeah, yeah, yeah, same certain yeah, Eric quality, but Hardy not as batshit crazy, right Tom Hardy? Seemson c I have a conversation, wouldn't with scratchings heads. So there was this writer back in the eighties or nineties. His name was Joe Keenan Joe Queenan, Yeah, Joe Queen And he wrote this book if you're talking to me, your career must be in trouble. And he probably wrote for Esquire, Rolling Stone and that type, that type of guy

who was one of those man about town a columnist, humorous columnists. And he did his piece called Mickey Rourke for a day. Oh my god, I bet this when it came out. I've had this book I stole from his kid in college. Sorry, I took your book, dude. It just smoked twice cigarettes a five Am rise, smoke first Marlborough five O one, smashed bathroom mirror with fist first, unintelligible eyed motherfucker, unintelligible motherfuckers who

want me to compromise my principles and suck their cocks. And it just goes on like that, seven forty eight Am Visit, Dirty Bookstore, Times, Square, Batsu, Bondage, Life, particuling Scene, Footnotes, smoke eleventh Marboro, and it just kind of goes on and on it there's still funniestly please so you can find this article online or something because it's no buddy, But it just sums up the lunacy of who Mickey Yorke was in the eighties

and nineties. Like he was he started his career in the eighties like and Diner and Pop a grawage village and by body he's the arsonist and body Yeah, and then he was in nineteen forty one he's one of the guys in the tank. Yeah, Like he was an up and comer in nine and a half weeks. Yeah, and then then Angel Heart, oh and nine and a half weeks was a sex was a sex thriller, which they used to make a lot of these back then, where like famous people would bang

on camera and then there'll be a murderer in there. And then Angel Heart, Angel Heart is and neo noir direct to buy the great and underrated Alan Parker, who made the commitment. It's in Pink Floyd, the Wall and a bunch of other than Bugsy Malone. Bugsy Malone about eleven year old gangsters

playing adult gangsters and them they were like these little kids cossplaying as adults and they're shooting each other with like potato guns, splurge guns, they fluring pies, they shoot cream pie And it's a musical. And it's a musical except that the musical that all of the songs are sung by adults and kids who just loop thinking. Yeah, and it's got Scott Mayo and is a weird movie. All the songs are written by Paul Williams. Yeah, Buggsy Malone's

singing voice is provided by Archie Han. Oh my god, it's a great fucking out. But his movie, Alan Parker's movie Angel Heart is the coolest Neo noir absolutely best best that is played Runner. Well, that's future future but neir yeah Neo or n Yeah, Neo, not neon because neon noir is anything that takes place in color in Los Angeles. That's a crime thriller. Those are neon noirs. Oh I thought that was anything directed by that But that European guy who did Yeah, that guy, the guy who did

that movie was a drive. Oh yeah, I thought, yeah, that's

guys. Please give me some bisexual liking see blue and purple and fusia like between him and freaking oh my god, where yeah you're freaking takes eight not liking and almost a movie just keeps hammering him, like he says something like The Godfather's not good a movie or something like that. So freaking just keep coming back. Just how yeah are you breathing right now? Man Frequent is a great director on ethical I don't think shooting guns on the side of the

avera but hey, do what you gotta do. It's billy freaking God rest his soul. All right. Where are we We're we finished Hargan, where we're in Mark. We're talking Nicky Rourke and anyways, Angel mart Is A. He's a frivate detective and I'm using air quotes more or less, so I'm not gonna give too much away. And it gets hired by this guy, Louis Scypier played by Robert de Niro, playing the greatest movie devil of all time. Yes, the most obvious named, but a fantastic performance.

Yeah, you'll never look at an egg the same you'll never eat. Oh god, it's gross. So Mickey Burke definitely had this fucking reputation yea, as being let's just say difficult. Yeah, he was there and he just was not easy guy. He's a drinker, smoker, hard gut And in the nineties, like that movie Carley Davidson in the Marlboro Man, great movie. Yeah, and I'm him and Don Johnson are pleased two n'ar Dwells who

go on an adventure. That movie predicts the Matrix. I'm serious, really, Oh yeah, the fucking the the agents, Daniel Baldwin and those guys, the guns and then the big cloaks and everything. The end of that movie takes place in a skyscraper and the heroes are saying by a helicopter that shows up and blasts all of the vent, top of the top floor. Oh yeah, heber that's a good that's a good picture. But and then

he did it was eight and a half weeks, and then nine and a half weeks. Was at the sequel, No, he did, he did nine and a half weeks, and then it was nine a half weeks. Yeah, he did nine and a half weeks, and then he did Blue Orchid. That's the sequel to nine and a half weeks. Yeah, and it's just another sex movie in it, right, But that one bombed bombed time and Harley Dare was when barb when bombed and he had a few of

those bombs and he started boxing and like he'd always been a boxer. Yeah, but he took it really seriously and well, he felt betrayed by Hollywood and oh is that what it was? He got? Oh yeah, there's a whole story with Mickey vork and his finances and feeling like he had sold out completely methodically Davis and the Marlborough Man, and he figured, well, fuck all this, I'm just gonna I'm just gonna go box want he was, He's the quintessential tough guy actor that you know thought he was or was

actually a tough guy. You know, I wouldn't want he would always I guess he was always a boxer. So you know, the guy got built for Hollywood. No, he you know, he is one of those guys who you like. Michael Shannon is another one where you see and you just got he doesn't need this at all. No, But Michael Shannon is an actor's actor. Though he's all about the material. He's an actor's actor, that guy. But Mickey Rourke was always a weird kind of nood old guy.

But I've never seen a back the form Storry. No. Never always a good actor, always interesting. Yeah, and it was no surprise to me that he was going to be so fucking great here. Yeah, he's And it was one of those things when they cast him like Mickey work hasn't been knitting him forever. He had been in The rain Maker, the French swar coped a lot of Johnition thing. He's the best thing. But he's got a great voice, and his Marv is I can't imagine anything right.

And the fact that he is Marv, that Marv exists as a movie character with the same silhouette and as the comic book is amazing. And I don't know how to explain that performance. It's so nuanced and yet it's so over the top of the same time. And as a character, Marv is clearly bipolar schizophrenak and he's gonna take medication, and he has issues, blocks out a lot, blocks out a lot, gets confused, as he says, and sometimes he just likes to bring kntons. Yeah, just reason does not

see something else. This is a character you'd never ever want to be here round. But it's like a performance that's a tour de force is the only way to put it. Man, it's a big performance, and it's really great. He wanted a capemy work for the rest this, Yeah, no kidding, he absolutely should have wont it for this, and it's one of the best and it's probably one of the best adaptations of a comic book character, like best casting. But he's up to with the Iron Man, I

think is or Chris Reid is a superman. It's just pretty apps. Yeah, and he leaps off the page. He said character. Look, he absolutely does. Yeah, the Christopher Reid things, so yeah, I'm strong that yeah, because Christopher Reed and that cost to me is super Yeah. And then and his delivery is just spectacular, both with the voiceover and in person dialogue. It's just his delivery is really good. You gotta talk about Carligo Gino's and there's, like you said, just ends up being another victim,

which is too bad. I had a giant crush on her when this came out, and I still do to this day. So with a certain degree, the little pervy twelve year old in me is still very grateful for the scenes with her. But yeah, I wish she would have met Yeah, because just as a psychologist who or a parole officer for for Marv here. Yeah, she commits to the role and actually got the wreath that she's recreating the panels of the comic book here, and her character is Newton free,

unlike say later stripper characters. Yes, let's talk about it. Let's talk about Nancy. But fuck it, we don't have to go in chronological worry here in this she's in the sequence Oh okay, let meget Yeah, that's right in the bar with we meet her as a stripper, so we don't know it's the little girl from the Hardgin sequence at first, we just think, oh, this is the main attraction here at whatever the Katie's I think is the name of the club, and it's a it's I don't know,

it's a burless performance. I guess right, because it's Burlesca's stripper moves because she never takes off her clothes for some reason. And I know it's just because it's Jessica Alba and she doesn't want to take off for clothes. But how about you just don't play the part? Yeah, well, yeah, she's beautiful. Though she's beautiful, she's an angel. She's good in the part. It's actually her best performance of hers yeah, in a movie,

as her best performance. But you can argue that because it does not have the boobs, and the boobs are integral to the art if you're adapting

its straightforward. I feel like a pig for sending it. But the mounting it was just like what the fuck? Like why, here's the thing. I appreciate her stance, and I appreciate their care for her as far as adhering to that and not making her take her clothes off, But in that fucking room those characters are sitting around for that perform Yeah, that's a good point. That's an interesting point. It would be like that's the performance in

between the rest of the performances. Right, Oh, let's give Nancy her little dude right, nice dancing Nancy. Bye. But she's like the fucking the top earner at that club. Just it bothers me in this thing. No, the logo for the club is a silhouette of her, and you can see those nipples popping it. Yeah. No, with all of activity, I feel like a pig saying, but yeah, if you're gonna go

for go for broke. Yeah. As an actor and as the filmmaker, we are one translates and I'm not trying to be a pig here or anything like that. But I've been around actors my whole life, and one I'm good at it. I don't really like being an actress. Kind of a pinion us. I like being a director, a writer, director. But been a lot of actors and young gals and our actresses, and trust me,

they like getting Magan. No. I mean meaning that most of them are very A lot of them are very brave and are willing to do it if the park calls for it. It makes sense, and they're not unopposed to it, you know what I mean. So I think finding a name actor in two thousand and five. To do that part with that would have done. It would have not been a problem. It would really easy. And dare I say a more seasoned performer. Yeah, I mean she was

the flavor of that model. Yeah she was. And she's only like twenty twenty one. She's in Fantastic four at the same time. But she's equally miscasting. Yeah she's not. And it's not her fault either, because they're cast in Fantastic four. Their casting, the girl was basically college aged to play the matriarch of the Fantastic Four. Yeah. It was not a good no, it was it. It's weird casting. It's somebody gets popular and they just put a whole bunch of jobs. And I can never blame an

actor offering you work, you fucking take it. But anyway, and even she knows it was not the right Hooever, she's like that that that sequel made her quit. She's like, I can't believe told me to cry pretty or said fuck So. I think she deserves a little bit of she deserved better representation. I don't think this may have been the movie for certainly not. She was great in it, though, But it's a gritty flick and I want Yeah, she's not gritty, not ner up, No, who

is gretty Jamie King? She is. She's great as Goldie. Yeah, and and Wendy Goldie and Landy. See this is where we kind of go off the rails because the March story is he's trying to he's investigating the murder of Goldie, the gonness who spent the night with him for a good reason, and it's heartbreaking from her. But like where we end up in old Town, the Mercenary and the whole to plus here's where I'm with all of it, not only because we've already talked about the weirdo gender sexual politics of

Frank Miller as far as how the female characters are portrayed. But this movie is incredibly unsexy. Did you Nothing in this movie turns me on. They have a city block full of prostitutes and not one of them. All right, everyone is garbed in some sort of like futuristic like mad Maxian kind of

thing. There's a Zoro girl in there. For some there's a Zoro girl. Yeah, yeah, yeah, man, And that's the comic, is that? But I know where we're the comic being sexy though, Yeah, but because you had because he had drawn so say Nancy on the stripper pole, and you got to see Frank Miller everything out what he had said,

which is, I have a problem with female body. So here it is and he's doing and here's and it's a splash plage right of her with the rope and the boobs, and yeah, I know, I might have made it a little dirtier. I think that's that problem with the studio system. Even well, we gotta make it, let's make it a lot so dirty. Well I got to say no because it was drawn that way and it was translated that way, so it's it's not in the studio interference thing.

This is just a Frank Miller problem. But yeah, I know. And then an interpretation problem on Rock Veguez's part. Unless this is what turns in on the only thing that kind of turned me on in the movie, I fired doing it. But Kurga Gino, she only got naked, and that's because I think she's floating from now that only a drive did everything else that was supposed to turn me on. I was just like, I get what's happening? Yeah, well calla Rosario. Every time I see Rosario like,

oh, it's for Sario. I gotta crush on ros Ario. Well, yeah, I know, I see what you mean. But the treators turned on by beautiful woman screaming firing machine gun. Well then it's this movie's for you. But that doesn't just do it for you. He addresses them all like superheroes, a wonder woman. There's sexy ways to do that. Gale has read that Dominatrix thing, but it's like the most complicated Dominatrix outfit you ever saw. Yeah, and you know they gets wears in the seat.

Yeah, but they put her in one of those dungeon minister like a leather stole. Yeah, it stuns on it and stuff. I'm like, wait the whole lot. That sequel doesn't work as much this one does almost like this movie like for all its fault, it still really plays. Yeah, and the sequel doesn't play. Agreed, the sequel has pacing problems with this one. Yeah, does not this on, as we said earlier, like a two hour flip pums along. Yeah, it's just as a light inspace.

It's rare to get to the end of the two hour movie and think, wait, no, this sober Yeah. Yeah, it's one of it's one of his best editing jobs. Rodriguez cuts his own movies and like it's it's one of his best ones. These hearts really in it, and he I said, he matches the pace of those comics. Marv just going,

He just goes to the whole thing and you can't. So Carlo Gino gets her hand eaten Dames, he's leting it, let it out, and they're just fine, which I think is a really interesting scene because it's you know, it shows her all stronger characters, it's just characters stupid. Yeah, I mean, look, they turned this strong character into the victim, but probably the genius anxiously great in this man. And she knocks out Marv. She's the only one who gets one up on Mark. Yeah, she's the

only one. She knocks him out. And then it's rinders to the cops. Yeah, as a parole officer in Basin City, I would assume that she knows that the cops are the most corrupt thing in the universe. So I don't right understand her reasoning there. So, yeah, they made the let's Frank Miller making stupid lady character, But that's Ton Kevin. Huh. Let's top Kevin Kevin, Oh god, yeah, spider Man. Fucking horrifying, Yeah, horrifying, But that he's Spider Man. I think that's great.

Like I think he Miller takes all these archetypes of superheroes andind of works them into I'm supers. He's worked on it, kind of works them into there. And clearly you see that kid with the big white eyes and fly

run around, you know, inspired by Spider Man, but just horrifying water performance for Alicia Wood and as an actor, definitely a palate cleanser after being Frodo for a bunch of years, you know what I mean, like level of prot away. You're looking a maniact too. Yeah, And he's great. He's spectacular in that movie. He's so scary here, particularly at the end when we finally to see his eyes. I mean he's got those nails. Yeah, Yeah, he's again, that's that whole sequence between the fight

between him and Maher. As far as the front of Comics don canned, Yeah, and you're really good. And as a as a testament for Robert herdyguess those two fucking act dupes have never read in each other. Amazing. In fact, that there's a scene where I was watching behind the scenes stuff though, like one of the bar scenes where the characters are all exchange thing looks all of them were there months apart, like, and they're all interacting

with each other. He do things like rap an actor in a green screen, knowing that they were gonna they were gonna put another actor in there later, So who's ever on screen would have something to sit the baths off? Yeah, man, clever movie making. But Kevin is great. Elijah Wood is great, and he's creepy and it's gross, but I love the montage. It's literally just a frame from the comic when he's buying all the stuff to get to go back and he's like, I got the razor wire,

the gloves and my mist It's just really good. And man, he fucks up Kevin. Yeah, boyd does he fuck him up? And with the and the wolf shows up and eats some of the but then all I know where here dude? For fun Year's Rutger Howerd speaking of the rows seeing of the creepy monologue. Yeah again a situation where Rourke had filmed his scene. Rucker Hurri came in afterwards, was able to look at his performance and go okay, yeah, and oh my said I tried, Oh Rutger Howell?

Is that creepy dude? Man, it's such a good performance. Yeah, I'm speaking for blade Runner. Yeah, I'm speaking of a blade Runner. And then right into that awesome ending with the with the electric chair narrating from the grave. Yeah, it's just so cool. What a great classic more trope Yeah yeah, and then all your bands. He's got make Farlane put out a toy like it was a Marv in a electric chair. I'm so

mad. I never got it. I have the other mare of actual figure holding the Kevin head, but the one on the elect chair it's pretty rare, it's pretty worth, it's pretty valuable. It was confirmed. How can this toy be an electric chair? And I'm like, well, yeah,

have you seen the Ric Farland toy. I used to have the freak character from Spawn who is this ripped looking in He basically looks like Eddie from m and his hair was the real hair and was strange first side and a bag and but he basically had the body of Iggy Paw and he was like, the character is an insane homeless person. Yeah, pretty yes, And here's an action figure. Here's an action figure. And that bringes now to the next sequence, the Big Bat Kill the vers in City comic I bought ah

and introducing us to Dwight. Yes, who's a major player Aaron sin City just had plastic surgery and all looks like somebody else he is. Dwight is a private eye. Yeah, basically so, but the private eye in the Sin City sense of the word. And then he basically just takes pictures of people, fucking yeah, and Blackmaile's people and oh, I'm not black Male's people. But yeah, yeah, he gets that, and you get that more in the Dame mckill four yea, which is the prequel to the story,

because here we have name. It's Englishman extraordinaire Rough and Tumbles should have been bonded. Yes, Clive Owen, City have Lost Children. Believe that is City of Men. City of Men, City of My Children came out when I was a kid, and that's a French movie and it's very good too, Yes, and Carol and Caro and that weird little guy. Yeah, yeah, so you're Clive going here. Recently, surgierized, yes, we don't know what you looffect before Josh Brolind like Josh Browler before. Yeah,

in the nineties is the best delivery in a really big trunk. We're in a big trunk. Yeah, because he's driving a red caddy. Yeah. Movies in black and white, everybody, but pops of color here and there, judiciously chosen. Here, perfectly chosen because you need to see a catillact. It's red. Yeah, he's also got a red con Converse Chucks red Converse checks, Yes, exactly, which is my preferred sere. So like anytime a character shows up wearing Converse, I'm stoked. Yeah. Doctor

who started wearing Converse when that David? Oh, Yeah, I was like, yeah, his poor feet. Yeah, and I feel it basically been like it's it's a form of footbinding. I've been wearing them since I was a kid, so they functively grown into the shape of the convert and ruin for all athletic shoes. Now this is the weakest story, you think, Yeah, I think I don't have as much fun with this one as they do with the others, although I do love going to the Lebret at Tarpits.

Yeah, it's fun. When I lived in the Los Angeles for the entire of the nineties. I lived just off of Wilship Boulevard and libra At Boulevard, which is where the tar pits are, and I went to those fucking tarpets every goddamn yeah, because I think it's a marvel that this prehistoric site is just sitting in the middle of a major American Yeah, it's fucking cool. Yeah. So when they ended up there and with these superton dinosaurs, like, well, I like how the tar pits here are like on

the outskirts and it's where everyone just dumps bodies. Yeah, and like, but in the real LA it's just in the middle of town. Man. It's like, yeah, it's yeah, it's on the Miracle Mile. Yeah, you were telling the mall we were to dump a body, there'd be trying. The Larat harpits does make a great appearance though, however, in the Last Action Hero. Well, yeah they don't leol the fart in there. Yeah, that's it. They also show up in nineteen forty one.

Yeah, they some crashes into them. But the best use of the Lbret tarpits of all time and will be forever is Miracle Maya Steve Jarnix. Oh right, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, where it begins in anim is with the tar pits in more ways than money shit. But okay, so here he's gonna drive, he's gotta push the red car and the like

the bodies in there. But so Dwight is dating the waitress from the bar that that Nancy works at, played by by Britney Murphy, long lamented late and lovely Britney Murphy talk about promise man, talk about careers that were she was on the way so good that Gary, I think this is her best performance. But yeah, she's so cute in this and so lovable and so vulnerable and so tough all at once. Dude, she shows it off.

Unfortunately, she's character in Frank Miller connics she's not getting more than that. No, she's not given more that. She's gonna get punched by Benizan molto Genty Bowie on what a despicable character, but what to do just being creepy and good and Bill Crost being awesome here until to his most who showed up and said, wait, you're not putting for stotics on me? No, I want to look exactly like that guy. Yeah, yeah, it's a great it's a great bit apparently was meant for Johnny Depth. Oh really,

yeah, but I had some pirate conflicts. That's funny. Yeah. I much rather watch Benisian Maltorial than Johnny Buddy. Yeah, great stuff. Man, what a sline ball character and his little crew of jerks, like one guy walking around on a tank top. Yeah, he's they're all just the gross and the most gross. Yeah, I mean they're they're her, which is why she comes to my where her pop of colors, her eyes which are that fucking blue, that blue Jesus Christ. But yeah, it's a

great bit. And Dwight is he's just really good as white Clive Owen. He's really tough. He's just very William Holdeny in it. I think, wow, yeah, yeah, that's what I kind of get from him. He can run. Yeah. And one the recurring theme of the light motif of shoving guys and toilets na news again in this and the Pop of Color. It's the slight bit of yeah when he coughs that did you get to the when you get to old time, you do get the one female with

total agency. Meho, Mio doesn't seem like the prostitute. Meo is not a prostitute. Mio is the baddest motherfucker in all of Since City. She is, She's what's great. Here's she's judiciously used in this story. Yeah, when it got to the sequel where they precast her with Jamie Channis did a dead she was pregnant. Uh, it's it's like mio x mocking like anytime they just need something to here's deadly little Miho. Here she comes comes

in and just slices everybody's as a well was it? Everybody in a Seaguel got recast except for Marv. Basically Dale was still there and there are a few others. The Rourck villains are still there. So Paris Booth comes back. Okay, it's a lot of the same faces, and it's the seguel is. If you want more of Sin City, then you're gonna get it. Yeah, but it's not going to be a spot. It's not. It's just gonna feel like Dale old bread. I've ever seen it other than

the first time I watched it, and only see it the ones. That's the thing. I watched it the one time too, when it came out in twenty fourteen, which is, by the way, nine years after Yeah City, the promise of Sin City was, here's a new form of synod, right, We're gonna actually translate comics directly, and they know and they never It didn't pay off. It only three hundred. I think it could have paid off if he had left immediately into a signal to this and then

branched out, because there are other good stories too. There is that the last one they did, the love story is really get to hear what it's called, though, but it could have good gon a Sin City too. He could have been at the other Frank Milton. He needed to be the vanguard more than just the initial thing, because they waited nine years for the sequel, and by then nobody cared. I'm not even that big a fan of Battle Angel, oh that much. That was all right, It's okay,

says this. This Sincity made for a budget of forty million dollars, taking one hundred and fifty one works the worldly it took so long to do as equal the sequel took costs sixty five million. Thirty just doesn't need a sequal either. This is a fine film. Yeah, this is a graphic novel of the movie. Yeah, I like the kind of comic Bookie looking hookers doing certainly the design element of it. Oh, this is just what's in the comic, and he's writing it for that comic audience, and that's

what there. The thing is, we are getting plenty of the female form in the form of Nancy throughout the rest of the world. Yeah, so and other care plenty of boss. So these deadly women don't need to look anything like like prostitutes. They can just be these things. But it's such a hungerd I don't like, I mean, I don't like. There's just ah, they're pretty free with punching women. They do it once, twice times, like five times. It's a little much, yeah, because but

again it's gritty and it's being an old tiny movie. It's a gritty thing to do. But then again, we have characters who're fucking cannibals in this, so like the gritty is covered here from the top on that. The opening scene is a man murdering a woman. Yeah, the one thing is the woman. The big fact kill you do is women do get their revenge.

Although he spends a lot of time with Michael Clark, Duncan's minute and just the flesh is so exquisite to skin so soft, and he's crooking her neck and all this stuff, and I'm like, looks like he's just like chiropractors here, but you know, he smacks her pretty far too. But the minute, yeah, the minut there's Jackie Boy gets killed. There's the mob swoops in and starts trying to like muscle in because they know he's a cop, and that'll be the end of the truth and all hell's gonna break

loose. What about this guest director quitting Tarantino thing, well, you've certainly allowed to have so many money said and direct the scene. Yeah, I don't know why he needs a credit either. I mean, there's plenty of shots and goonies that are Steven Spielberg's. Feel like it's just marketing. Yeah, that feels like Merrior mantiss. Since you're already saying fuck you to the

DGA, let's really say fuck you and put his name out. Yeah where, And I'm sure it was a situation where Tarantino was there and he was like, come play with the digital equipment, No play with the green screen. I know you're a film guy, but do a scene. Yeah, see how on the field and it's just two guys in a car. I mean, it's not like it's there's nothing set redirected about that. It's basic

coverage. It's just the cinematography is the best part about it. The scene is great because it's a dead guy with his throat slit who keeps depending on the at the neck, his vocal cords are stretched or not. It's that's it's working. But it's not like the camera's moving in any sort of way. That made me. I like the light, the way the light on the black and white, the lights, it's really neat lot the primary colors. But again that's Rodriguez because he's the DP of it. He's doing it

no matter what. But you know, marketing, Yeah, you want to have the footage you can. There's the behind the scenes footage of that scene being yeah, particularly and it's literally Tarantino's sitting next to Rodriguez on different cameras like watching monks. Yeah. See yeah, I agree. So it's like who's directing the sea? Yeah, Tarantino couldn't left and that scene would still

would have gotten filmed. Same my thing with the Frank Miller stuff. I think, yeah, every piece of footage that I found of Frank Miller actually directing somebody like you see him like walking up to an actreon and try this kind of thing. It was all from Dane to kilf I can't find any footage of him actually directing the first in the city. I'm sure it's exactly the same situation. He's just sitting there and going maybe this. I don't

know if that's you know what I mean. It wouldn't be because he wasn't having conversations with the fucking lighting gap, because the guess he's all right, but he's The spirit is terrible. So is robo Cops three. Yes, Grow Grow three is terrible and robo Cop two an't that great? No, it's some stuff. It has good stuff. It has tom Noonan in it.

Yeah, I just got yeah. And a kid does a criminal mask which is a great Channeyeah. No, that's not Jonathan Brand as it was ever made. Who cares? The end is fun. The special effects are the weakest. In that last bit is a shot when it pulls away from the hooper the armed prostitute on the roof, and it pulls back, it gets wonky. The effects the c and the shots of the prostitutes on the roof do look really. No, it feels like it feels like an eighties

music video. Yeah, it kind this is a little bit. The twist is great. I mean, I know from a comic, but it's still a great twist. But he's got the grenade and the yeah, and it's a play on the thermipley because they're in the gates. But that Yeah, he's definitely working that theme. I think I do love Rosario Dawson's performance. So she's great and she chews up every single one of those lines. What

you need to be doing. Yeah, although Clive Owen makes a dainty email of his yeah, they understand the assignment and Doltro too, but this is a delicious sandwich. And again, Brittany Morphite look like Peggy a little take it left. Oh what a shame she never get to play Harley, because wow, yeah I got I'm born to do it right. Yeah, simply like she would have been a sympathetic Harley, like you would have enjoyed her craziness, but she also would have felt bad because those eyes are hers are

They're just the most beautiful eyes you've ever seen on a white girl. Let me tell you, She's what a shame in a heartbreak that is, she didn't have to die. I think she's murdered. But that'shod me. Well there's an entire Yeah, there's a whole Yeah, there's a whole thing. And like her husband, I have the exact same thing. I don't know usual, Yeah, sounds like something happening in the abasement City kit. And now that brings us that they have the big fat kill and but it's pretty

pretty dynamic. Alexis Pladella's overturned them to the mob. She's so obnoxious in this movie. She really is, and the performance because she's obnoxious, but she's obnoxious. Michael Clark duck. It was great golden eye. Yeah, there's big golden eye. Yeah, he's good. He has great delivery. And that what's with that one guy with the Nazis with the swastika tattoo on his head, He's just like really casual about being evil. Hey, this is great. Then they got shot, said Nikki, can't I think yeah?

I think so maybe, But I do like the bullet to the one of the one of the gooms is also a nick offer nick offered and he's got like bondage pier on. Wow, how about that? Crazy? Right? Pre Parks. But then Dwight's voiceover is really good. He does a really good job. His voiceover is the best supurs the writing goes without it sort of falling too much into the no wir ye me, oh me, oh your god, Jesus Elvis, it's really he did so he delivers that

line really well. Yeah. I like that. But the most satisfying one is the end here with that Yellow Bastard coming back and Hartigan's alive, thank god. Man he dined in the opening, right, and boy, it's really just a neat. That Yellow Bastard was my favorite comic. I think it might have been my favorite. I really just enjoyed the ship out of that because it's the ending is satisfying. It's a really satisfying end, and that Yellow Bastard is such a great villain. A break design translate here by

Greg Nicotia. Yeah, looking, and he's based on the Yellow Kid, which is the first comic book character, so to speak, the first cartoon, modern cartoon character, newspaper character and character. And it was just this little yellow boy in kind of a dress and like he had got into mischief. But yeah, he's a yellow kid. Yeah, and they that Yellow Bastard is evocative of that. But again you think it was like in his years, Frank brother like so yellow bas yeah, probably, and the way

Frank Miller talks, I'm sure that's what it is. But the stories like just though there's like male nudity in the comic too. So when Hartigan's hanging from yeah, that's his dogs hang on and that's all cleverly hitten in shadow and that yellow Bastard is naked at the end, and here he's going his boxes and man, I wish they would have got all he gotten all the way because it was like a weird look like a duct dick or something.

It was really weird looking. And because now that might actually be the case that let's we're sucking up the sensors enough. Yeah, but that comes, but it shows what all the surgery that we went through. His powers Booth shows up and he's we're going to do this to you for the powers. Booth is so good with those weirdo eyes eyes golden, Yeah, very freaky. I do nothing like it. Yeah, but you know, as much of color as Mijo's earlier had a little bit of blue on it. But

it's great when he gets out and all this stuff. He doesn't kill his partner though, Bob picks him up, and he doesn't kill him. Yeah, killed him. He did shoot a lot of balls in him. Yeah, open exactly trying to kill the little girl who he's still trying to pretend. Yeah, and he's fur the great line. He's like, man, now you're scaring a little girl. So he but his performance is very paternal, and that's Rodriguez's input, I think coming through Rodriguez, who has seventy

eight kids. Yeah, and a few of them are and he's I think the dad, and he made a bunch of kids movies, the dad in whom I think kept him from AND's got a bunch of kids too, Like I think the dad's kept it from being creepy. How about that Robert Erdrin is the only modern film and went out and made a bunch of children's original children, Yeah, specifically for kids to go see because there was nothing out there like it. And in that case, there was actually a pretty good

market of children's entertainment. You look at this field now, what is going on? But no other filmmaker decided that I'm gonna take a few years to do this kind of the same. Hey, Soderbergh do that. Yeah, Soderberg has made a lot of movies, but he hasn't made no kids movies. Why not? Yeah, and then he goes to the bar. I always like to have the bar. The lighting in the bar was color was kind of cool. Yeah, is Wolverine in there. Wolverine's in the bar

in the comics, I think, yeah, he's no background. But again, when she just shows up and kisses him, that's wow, that's some wishful filming on Miller side. It's weird. Yeah, it's very weird because I just don't see a little girl. I don't I've never been a little girl, but I can't imagine a little girl. I mean that kind of feeling towards him. Well, Nancy has made some choices in the list, She has made some choices still in city. Yeah, they didn't keep her

her daddy didn't keep her off the pole. Nope. He might have written one letter back to her stop scaring. Yeah, they never got them. I mean, more power to sex sport. There's not I don't care about any of that. You know. What I want to give a shout out to is the actor beating up Bruce Willis when he's tied to a chair. Oh he's great. Ye I love that guy with his white shoulder hair and that gun. There's an old man to beat Paul Man. What a fucking

great performance. That guy like some asshole cop who's dirty and you can just see it all. So whoever that dude is, bravo to you for this great performance. Well you look at that. You're never gonna have a goy like Hurley getting Oh, come on, like it's just making a mean a out of it. Yeah, it's great. But just Hartigan's rampage is great. And that yellow bastard man again, it's just a great performance, amazing makeup, just a disgusting person in the way he describes how he smells.

Oh yeah, the bloody even worse. What's funny is the design of the yellow Bastard kept me from reading Sin City for because I was so used to Miller's for a test characters. I was like, I can't, I'm gonna, I'm gonna wait, I'm gonna pass them if this is what it's gonna be. Because before I signed and I saw that image of that character and went, no, I'm good, No, it's good though. Oh seems great. Yeah, fool for weight. Yeah, it's a great villain man.

Anyway, wrops his fucking balls off again. Yes, he shot him off the first time. They fix him anyways, Well that was part of the surgeon. Yeah, he went there. What I love is that this and this is maybe more of a sequel thing, but powers Booth has portrait of his son hanging on the thing. But it's the yellow bastard very it's not there. It's Neude's and stuff like that. That's my son. Powers

Booth is just so oily. It's good. Yeah, he's just with all you know what you think of power I think of him his appearance in Red dawns. Oh, they're all out there on their own, and then he shows up and suddenly feeling everything's gonna be okay. Our Booths he's sent in good like they have a chance now, and then take him away. I just hope his I just hope his parents he thanked his parents for giving him that awesome name. It's just what there's all these stories are as it turns

out, they're all about the downfalls of Roart family. It's all about their members and their family being murdered or being murdered basically won by one. Yeah, basically because in in Sin City we get the Rector Howard character, who's a lark, Yeah, and we get Nick Stahl, who's a roar. Yeah. And in the sequel it's all about Nancy killing powers Booth. Yeah. Yeah. They loom large in the comics for sure. I just like the fact that one of the villains is a cardinal. That's cool. That's

Frank Millan went to Catholic school, I can tell you right now. But just based on that one, oh yeah, only some Catholic kids gonna come up with that. Well, I mean the Daredevil is that darleble One is the most Catholic comic book giver read absolutely all of the guilds, all in all of the weird sort of finishy stuff. Yeah, that's all. That's

all as well, trust me, I know twelve years of that schooling. I was an altar boy me as well. I was not an ultim weather school from pre kindergarten through high school. Oh wow, I think I got there in the second grade, so eleven years and then all the way through. But I was an altar boy. My mom got me on the altar boy team early. I was like Kobe getting drafted out of high school. All my friends were altered boys, and they were the most degenerate characters I

ever met. They gave us money every week too. At the end, right out of the basket. All right, I was about to still know Catholic sir. Now we're not going into that. All right, Let's let's get out of it somehow. How does this end? Well, this with Alexis Bedell's well, no, I mean it ends with her and making sacrifices. Yeah, yeah, no, no, Yeah, I'm sorry I jumped ahead. Ye know. It ends with Hartigan realizing that they're Yeah, he

saved the day, he saved Nancy from that yellow bastard. But that yellow Bastard's dad's still alive, and he's gonna come after her. He's gonna come after him. He's gotta make the only choice he feels he can make, which is the blow his brains out, which is done in the reverse silhouette and the white. It's beautiful, yea, it's gorgeous. I don't know if he needed to do that, they could have moved to Knatson City. Yeah, the her influence isn't okay in New York, as well, yeah,

he could have got go down to Shanghai. Come on, guys, I'm sure there are plenty places where a sixty year old man and a nineteen year old girl could go live out their lives together. But that's still just Homby Hills, right, I don't think that was That's Frank Miller though he likes that that. Yeah, oh wow, he's a weird dude. So now Elesius Banella fucked over all the girls and grow in old town. Yeah, but thank god, we have a fucking hayonic element from the opening to

come back. Great. Yeah, the officer a cigarette and she just he's like, okay, mom by he knows she knows what he calls her by name. Yeah, he calls her by name. That's right. No apparents of Josh hartn And in the sequel, no huh or the drive. But I'm without pity. I'm now very interested in cutting together a version of Sin City that's the ultimate version of it. Folds again from the best kits of Yeah. Oh, it's too bad that Michael Clark duncan he's not in the

sequel. Probly Donald, Yeah, he passed away to you. Dennis Haysbert, He's great. Yeah, he's a great actor, man. Yeah, And we get pre golden eye renude in that one. We get to see the eye which has a great line, which is Mark rips out the eyeball and then kind of feels it and says, I haven't feel this in a few days. Does Clive Bowen show up in the sequel after the plast I was hoping that the bandages will come up and it'll be climb on, but

they tried. They did prosthetics on Josh Roland to make him look like five

VOT and it's super weird. Yeah, because you remember're not liking that sequel at all. I'm so I can't watch it any more of this and it's really what's annoying is like after the surgery he shows up and then minud character recognizes him instantly, and so it was all for nothing, really, right, Yeah, you know something about the eyes. I can tell it's you.

Let's go. Well, she was left it alone. It was fine as it was, I guess because Sin City, for all its flaws, for all its weird sexual politics, for all its yeah, weird sexual politics. That's the way. That's a good way to put it, because it is weird, and if you're like some gen z or kid or something, you're gonna watch it and go this boy, he's very problematic. Yeah, I know, I get it, but it's still well crafted and it's designed to be problems. It's supposed to be, like, you know, an

ode to the fifties. Yeah, the fifties hardil detective stuff. So I got to forgive all of that. It's a piece of artwork. As far as I fell. It brings more to the table than we brought to it. And I mean, I'm sure you've seen it if you're listening to this, but if you haven't, fucking a man, go watch it immediately. But watch do not watch the stories by themselves in the now. It loses. It loses the idea that this is a universe and they all kind of

like coexist with one another and stuff. And comic book stories work great in like single issues. That's fine, but this was a movie, and it needs to be a movie. This is a graphic novel. Yeah, all of the characters playing off each other, all the stories bumping into each other and coming back, and like I said, the best story in it is that Yellow Bastard. But it's split into two halves and it works like Gangbusters. But if you watch it, it's just one story with no payoff.

Really, it's who sacrifices on top of each other? Who cares? We don't feel the length of time between those. Yeah, that book really sells the whole thing to the way booking in with the hardig and stuff. Yeah, So go see Since City if you haven't. Yeah, it's pretty cool, man. You can find it. And I don't think it's like a Pluto or something like that. So it's free to watch on TV. But find yourself a copy without commercials to yourself. Favorite. It's a great movie.

Man. I'm not gonna bring up what we care. I was just gonna do that. No, I don't even want to talk about it because fucking beating a dead horse. Yeah, and he's the worst comic book ever made. Man, even he is I was a drunk, fucking he was a drunk, angry man and it's super racist and it's a shameful book and I'm glad that sucks. Oh yeah, it's like the worst comic book I

ever. Don't ever read it to even consider that he wanted to make Batman that Oh God, thank god, DC had better angels working for them. Yeah. Anyway, go finds in City Comics there amazing, absolutely, Yeah, any of his comics, Like, he's a fucking fantastic writer. Yeah he had what really was We all look at that art work from Dark Returns and whatever. Yeah, it's great. Whatever the writing is what character Miller through it? Away from Dark Knight Returns to stay away from Holy Strikes again.

Yeah, that's awful, but again he was an angry drunk at the time. Yeah, that's his take on justice. But three hundred is a great comic book too. Man, it's gorgeous, wrote in his gorgeous and the stuff that he didn't draw, Give me Liberty, Get the Liberty is a fantastic comic book. Lens still on my ooh, I could adapt that list absolutely. So thank you all for joining us here on midnight Viewing and

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