Ep 113: Amyl & The Sniffers' Amy Taylor

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Hello and welcome to Midnight Chats, a podcast of casual interviews with leading musicians, published weekly at midnight to suit these informal and often under researched conversations. This week's episode is hosted by me Stuart Stubbs, editor of Loud and Quiet magazine. Joining me on tonight's episode of the podcast is Amy Taylor, singer and front woman of Australian punk band Ammel and the Sniffers. Amy formed the band back in twenty sixteen with her then housemates who really just

Bes beIN pretty chill. We're back in lockdown now.

Side pretty much just fucked you around at home and then went for a couple of walks and a little run. And that's pretty much the extent of it.

You do you guys also live in a house together, right, the whole band lives together?

We did, but we don't anymore. That's all gone.

That's all that's to the house got demolished, so we all had to scurry away.

The house got demolished. Wow.

Yeah, it was a pretty old house.

So we moved in knowing the terms that it had to get knocked down at some point and.

Then off it went.

Right, So when did so? When did you did you? Were you living together through this whole lockdown period or did it? Did you move out before that?

Yeah, we were living together during the whole thing, but I moved out a bit earlier because I was living it was like a three bedroom house with a shed out the back right, and so we were taking terms of doing the shed and then so the guitarist was in the shed and then I swat with him and it was during winter and like lockdown, and there was all these like fucked up bugs and stuff in there.

So I was like, I think I'm just going to try and find somewhere else.

Shit, Okay, what kind of bugs or what kind of bugs are we talking? Is Melbourne? It's Melbourne bad for bugs. I've been to Melbourne's the only place in Australia I've been to actually, and I didn't come across any bad bugs. But I was there summer time. Is this a winter bugs?

Don't bother me too much, but I think it's pretty good for bugs. Like you never see spiders here really, oh a couple of little ones, and you don't really see that many bugs either. Now thinking about it, cockroaches there everywhere, but not in the place I'm at. Now.

I like the idea that you what, what Australians consider a small bug us weedy Brits would consider absolutely huge and terrifying because we're we're just like we're not equipped to deal with well anything really, but especially like the bugs of Australia. That are the kind of things that, yeah, that's scares some people off from going there, which is a shame. But so you were in the so I

Really, yeah, that.

Was like albino cockroachs has fallen from the roof. And then a couple of months after I moved out, I do called what they were and apparently when cockroaches live long enough, they shed their skin and turn albino and they have no shell and they go and live in a place which is like in like not habitable for humans because then they don't get danger.

Right, So you were living in a place that wasn't even considered habitable for humans, which is why there were albino cockroaches there.

Yeah, by the cockroaches standard, I should not have been sleep in there.

Well, judging by the scene behind you, looks like you're in a really nice place now, so that's great.

Fucking lovely. Yeah, yeah, but I'm moving out soon. I was just actually googling real estate dot com. But living in here for now.

Nice if I understand this's right, You guys, when you came off to it, you'd like toured solidly for like a year or two, and then you moved back into your house together and then lockdown here and you were kind of stuck together in the house. I mean, that

We get on really well.

But I think it was intense only because we had no outside influence, Like it was just us four. We literally had no more sentences to string together between each other.

Like it'd be like it was just like sharing a room with a bunch.

Of furniture, like nothing to say, you know, when there's like four different colors of play though, yeah, and you mush it together and it becomes brown.

It was that That's what happened to us.

Yeah, I can imagine. Yet there's only so much to say. So this is probably good for the band that have you all moved apart or the boys still together?

No, yeah, we've all moved apart.

I think it's been really good for us because we're becoming fully grown humans. Yeah, like we're just like each other's only everything. So it's nice now because you can actually catch up and be like, what have you been doing, what are you been listening to?

What have you been watching?

But when you live together, you've all watched, seen, and heard. All your senses only saw the same thing.

Yeah, you know exactly what they've been up to because you're living in the shed and they're indoors and you know that's what they've been doing. You guys were living together before the band, right you you shared a house before you and you formed a band from being housemates.

Yeah, that's right, but we had a different bass player then, so when we formed, we were living together.

But then we like all moved away for like three years or whatever.

How did that happen? Because am I right? This is your first band?

Right?

Yeah? It is pretty much?

Yeah, had you wanted to be in a band before this? And it hadn't happened or was this a pure accident of like just hanging out with your friends who are your housemates and they played music, so you just got involved a bit of both.

Really like, I really wanted to be in a band and stuff, and I always wanted to do something, but I like couldn't play instruments, but I'd get drunk and stuff and then just like wrap or grab them microphone at a gig and just like sing a song or whatever. But then at the same time, I was like, I want to do this, It'll be fun. And then yeah, the boys all played and so I was just kind of a coincidence at the same time.

Really like, it wasn't.

Like I didn't hold a gun to their head and it was like make me a band, bitch. It was just more like, Oh, let's all have start a house band so we can play at house parties and stuff. Because a bunch of the people we hung around did like backyard shows and stuff like that, so we were like, oh, we want to do that too.

Melbourne's got a bit of a scene for that, right, the kind of backyard show scene.

Yeah, there was, and they did, but I don't know what the hell is going to happen after all this stuff.

Yeah, yeah, that's the thing. How many How's Melbourne been doing generally through the thing?

Ah?

Yeah, we had like we had one of the most strictest lockdowns in the world.

I believe like we had eight PM care few were in it.

For months and months and months, and I think Melbourne got pretty fucked up by it.

I reckon, it's safe to say, how did you cope with it?

How we how have you done?

You?

Are you okay? Are feeling all right?

No? It really fucked me up. I was shouted.

I was like shadowed last year and it still makes me shout when we got to lockdown and staff because I just want to actually like experience life. I can definitely stay positive, but last year really fucking cooked me. Yeah.

Yeah, we've exited lockdown today.

Today's free to congratulated.

Freedom done.

But you feel weird about it, right because it's not. The numbers are pretty high ut.

Till someone was saying, yeah, yeah, it's a terrible idea. We've basic a government of basically kind of fucked the situation from the beginning. But right now I think they've just got bored and they've just gone right, let's just see what happens. But it's kind of weird because it feels like today, I think the world is watching the UK from now to see what this is, what happens when a country decides to just make a run for it, And I hope, you know, I hope we I hope

But hope it's been pretty exciting. It'd be an exciting feeling in a weird way.

Yeah, it kind of is. Give it a go, Yeah exactly, We'll give it a go and see what happens. Because you started the band to like just play in like backyards and friends parties and stuff like that, I read that you didn't really expect to ever be playing like proper shows proper quote unquote, you know, big shows and stuff.

We just didn't really think that far ahead, like we're like, oh, yeah, it'll be fun to play or whatever. Let's just start and see what happens, and just yeah, everything that kind of happens is always a surprise in a way. Like not to disrespect how hard we work, because it really do work hard, but definitely, like even at the start would get played on like one radio station and would be like, oh my god, like we're on a radio station.

And yeah.

I remember we got booked for like our first show, and we had an what to do and like how to play and stuff like that, and we played it for ten minutes and the guy at the bar I remember, hill was like, is that all you're playing for? Like, yeah, it's like normally people play for half an hour.

Well, we don't have that.

We've only got four songs.

I love that. I like it when bands. I like it when you see punk bands who are clearly using that they're playing gigs instead of rehearsing almost you know, like to that extent, And I think it's great.

I was asked for sure.

Yeah, Like you go and see a show and as you say, they play like four songs ten minutes, it's done. I'm personally a big fan of a short show.

Yeah, I like that too. I don't want to hear too much or say too much. I want like new stuff every half hour.

Yeah, you know, your back starts to wake, your legs start to go, like I've seen. Have you been to any shows like big shows where it's normally big heritage bands, isn't it? I guess where they've got loads of songs to churn through. But have you ever been to one way it's just gone on forever?

Yes and no.

I'd probably liked saying a band that played for an hour and I remember thinking like, come.

On, come on, wrap it up. I saw The Cure Notoriously play for a really long time. I think I saw them play for maybe three and a half hours. Whoa, I know, steep roight crazy, I know. But it was at the Royal albert Hall. This was what was good about it was that the Royal Alberhor so everyone had a seat. I had a really good seat, a great view, and there was no one sat next to me, so I actually quite enjoyed it. But at the end of it, I felt like I'd been on like a long haul flight.

Well, that's a really long time, Like even long movies don't go.

For that long.

I know, I know, right it was. It was intense. I think that's the only one where I've it's been really long and I've gone Actually I'm okay with this because of the surroundings. But I'm with you, Like I just think, once you get to forty five minutes max, are you do? You guys do?

On course, yeah we do if they want them usually we do as well. Like our sets usually on the go for forty five to fifty five minutes because it's just a different setup. With punk bands, I think, like there's so much energy going out. It's like we're not going to play for.

Longer than an hour ten minutes, but we'll do an encore feotball ask. I like doing them. It's exciting.

Yeah, I like an encore. I know some people are dead against them. The Strokes are like a very anti on care I think I think the Manics maybe are, But I like that theater of it. I mean, I know, obviously of course the band are coming back on no one's that they've left.

But lottimes we don't like our bass player Gusts. He's like no on calls most of the time. But I just like doing them because people are like, you know, yelling and it's all exciting and you're like, ah, people want to see it.

Let's get so.

Now. What's what I think is amazing about Amona Sniffers is you started in that way and you're now you're about to support food Fighters in a huge football stadium.

That's right.

When is that show is that?

I think it's next twenty twenty two. I don't know when, maybe June or something.

It's in like Madrid, right, it's like a European yeah, with I.

Think Noel Gallagher or something Lam Gallagher.

Yeah, it's you Liam and food Fighters.

How just me and the boys? Yeah?

Have you thought much about like what that show is going to be like? Because obviously you guys are like so suited to a small venue, sweaty venue where you can especially where you can jump in the crowd, you know, and you can have that interaction, and this is going to be something totally different for you, Like, have you thought much about it yet or is it too far away?

Well, we've actually finally enough actually supported the food Fighters before in Adelaide in Australia, right, and that was really early on I.

Think was the stadium, Yeah, in a stadium.

Yeah, it was pretty funny, like we were just really it was really fucking.

Hot that day, like boiling hot.

And then Gus the bass player, just turned bright red because it was so boiling and the stadium was pretty much empty. Bike was still had a good time, went pretty open to everything as well, Like even though we'll just say yes to my ship just to try it out of you know, experience, I think I'll see what happens, and you know, I wouldn't like store. Actually, like we're not like few are or anythink in any capacity. We're just rolling with it.

Yeah, you've got you've got to take those moments. I remember when Sleep of Modds, who I know you're a fan of and have collaborated with, they supported the Stone Roses here in like in Wembley Stadium, like our biggest stadium, and I remember thinking just how cool it was. Because what I also love about Sleep and Modds is how they Jason and Andrew have this rule where they are determined to not change anything about the way they do it.

Yeah, that's so dad. Boundaries are sick like that as well. It kind of just it reminds everyone.

That it's just music, like a music like you should just as long as.

You can listen to it. It doesn't really matter. It shouldn't matter. It puts the pressure back on the music to be good and enjoyable and entertaining in itself, really, which is sick.

So how did that? How did that first Food Fighters show go? Was it weird? Was it weird?

Oh?

It was weird ass. Yeah, it was really weird. We had no idea what was going on. It was pretty fun though, Like it was fucking weird ass.

But yeah, I can't even remember or explain it, but I remember there was this like boxer there called Danny Green, and he pointed to me and declan and like kind of pointed at his ears and then gave a dumb up and I was like, oh, that's cool. Danny Green the Box. I liked our set. And then later he came up and talked to us and it's like, oh, guys, what are you doing here today? Like, I really like

That's what he was pointing out. He was pointing at your hair.

But yeah, I was sweet.

You've been doing a lot of exercise over lockdown right?

Oh yeah, I love working out. It's my favorite thing.

Ever, what exercise were you doing? What was your thing?

I just go for runs. I do pilates on YouTube. It's all on YouTube. If boxing lessons on YouTube. I do like high intensity kind of workouts like half hour ones or whatever.

On YouTube. There's this chiccoll mad Fit.

But I changed my YouTube lady every day or I don't have a lot. I'm not loyal to anyone on YouTube. But I like it because it's free and you can just do it from home.

It's brilliant, isn't it. You can do absolutely anything on YouTube. I use YouTube for absolutely everything. I need to know how to put what kind of stuff, anything, just anything.

What was the last thing you learned from it?

Yesterday? I learned how to dispose of some paint. How do you well, you have to break it down with some you have to This is what I learned. Anyway, I didn't cross check it. I just went with the first one. You know, I do that as well. I just you know, number one, top top hit. I'll just whatever they've said, it could be totally wrong. I managed to scrape most of it into a bin, wrap it up, and then I had to break the rest down with

Good YouTube for that kind of stuff.

Yeah, it's brilliant, isn't it. It's so good.

Yeah.

So you were doing some like high intensity stuff. That stuff is brutal. I respect you for two in that.

I just like being healthy and I like feeling strong and stuff, and I like I got hips to energy as probably you know.

But I just I just need to do stuff like that. I go crazy.

And if you think about like the live show, that's pretty much just like forty minutes a high into Do you work out anyway?

I guess without playing the shows, has the exercise replaced that daily workout.

Right pretty much?

Probably not daily, but maybe like four days a week.

Yeah, because it must makes.

You feel good in the brain as well, like I like feeling it clears my mind and makes you feel strong and stuff.

Sure it must have been mad, because you it must have been mad for you to go from that tour cycle and for it to be to be playing and to be on the road to suddenly be back home, right and to not have that adrenaline hit each night or every other night or whatever it is. That must have been like a headspin a little bit.

Yeah, we definitely have.

To readjust to lifestyles and stuff like that and like settle in a little bit and yeah, kind of become normal normal a humans.

Are you someone who is good at just sitting still and relaxing and doing nothing?

Absolutely not. I've never been good at it, not even when I was a kid.

I would just wanted to be doing stuff constantly and hate sitting still and hate doing that think and really love and value like being productive in any way and like pushing myself and not being in a comfort zone in any kind of way. So that's something I learned last year though. But I'll tell you what, though, I've gotten into books. Like I never was like much of a reader until last year, but now I'm just obsessed

That's great. What have you read over the last year that's stood out well?

The book that got me into reading pretty much was this book called Sapiens, which I think a lot of.

People who read have read it.

I don't think it's like unique or anything, but that was really great. It was kind of like the Breef's History of humans. It talks about how we've evolved to a certain degree and like how we've got this place, and like what the importance of gossip and like just like a bunch of stuff. I found it really interesting and cool and kind of like a bit philosophical, which

Yeah. I don't know, I've read hates of books. I think i've read like twenty this year already or something great.

So you've mainly been reading nonfiction stuff or have you also read novels?

Nonfiction is the laws? Or is that the truth?

Nonfiction is the truth?

Yeah?

Mainly just the non fiction then. Yeah, I like all that stuff.

I pat that Dolly Parton books good because she has always given some Historically, she's given some great interviews.

Oh they're awesome. Yeah, they're really great.

Have you listened to the Dolly Parton podcast?

Yeah?

I have?

Yeah, the one about the whole history of It.

Yeah.

I'm a really big fan of Dolly. I think she's great.

But it was pretty funny in this book she talks about how she grabbed for or whatever and her of wnd's usta in winter share a bed and they would all pissed the bed to keep warm.

Jesus Christ. That's extreme, isn't it. That's mad? Did she because she did? She come from a really big family.

I think she had eleven siblings.

Yeah, Jesus Christ, have you got Have you got any siblings yourself?

Yeah? I've got an older sister.

Okay, what I grew up like?

So?

I grew up on a property in northern New South Wales in Australia or whatever. And we when I grew up, we lived in a shed and me and my sister, my mom and my dad or she had one bedroom and we just like had like the we just separated the rooms quote unquote with like a curtain like like an old blanket, pint of the wall. Okay, so there's like a couple of parallels. I guess where it's like I can be like, yes, Dolly, I didn't I pissed the bed, but.

Not to keep warm me too.

We've all been there.

I have been there.

Yeah, yeah, I mean imagine having like imagine having ten siblings, like being one of eleven.

Oh my god, I can't imagine.

Absolutely.

That's why that's why she's I reckon so good at like human interactions and like understanding people, because she's constantly around other people, and like she would just know so many different personality types and different ways of seeing the world.

I think it would probably help with like understanding.

Yeah, people, I think, so are you? Are you close with your sister?

I think we've gotten closer over the last year.

But yeah, what does what does she into? Music?

A little bit?

She's actually gotten a banjo recently, but she's only probably been to one of my gigs or something, I think, right, So.

I mean a banjo that's quite Dolly Parton vibe. Yeah, days, did you get into the music of Dolly pante when you were younger, when you were a kid.

I think I got into Dolly Parton just through her personality. I was like, Wow, she's great, such an inspray and such a joy, and then I got into a music kind of backwards, right.

I feel quite proud because the jet I've had one vaccination so far. We're doing I don't know what you guys are doing over there, but we're doing two vaccinations each, and I've had the moderna one, which I've been told has been is the one that Dolly Partner has funded.

Ah, that's awesome. So I feel you don't have that one down here?

Do you know you're not getting the Dolly one? That's no. I feel no one else I know seems to have had it. They all seem to have had these other ones. But that's the one I'm that's kind of my bragging rights at the moment that I'm getting the part of I don't know why it makes any difference to me. But I think it's quite cool.

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We should talk a bit about the new album because it's brilliant. It's called comfort to Me? Is that is that a reference to Lockdown?

Yes or no?

But in one of the songs on the album, it's called Capital and the entry lyrics are comfort to me?

What does that even mean? What reasons do I persevere existing for the sake of existing?

Meaning disappears? So it's kind of just it's kind of like a play on that, and but it's just like what does it even mean comfort to me?

Like what is that?

And it also is kind of referring that like comfort to me is like playing a gig and like being sweaty, and like being around hips people at a live show and like angry loud music or like you know, blaring some weird drum and bass in my car, like speeding really fast, Like all that to me is comfortable. And like I guess it's kind of saying, like this style of music is comfort to me, and it's not traditional, but lots of people would agree with that, and lots

It kind of feels extra ferocious compared to your last record. It feels fierce sick. Was that intentional?

Is that?

Was that just due to your headspace or.

Definitely not intentional? I would think it's safe to say nine to nine percent of the stuff Amilns Sniffer's do it's not intentional. But I think it was just probably my head space.

I feel like, yeah, I feel like maybe in the past this is me just live streaming my thoughts, but it was more kind of like braddy snotty nose and powerful. But now I feel like it's maybe more like sharp, fierce, clear and powerful. I think just that's what I maybe feel right now.

I love the track Hurts and Macat. They are my two favorites. Thank you that like Hurts is like really melodic.

Yeah, I really like Maggot as well, and I really liked that one. I really tried to write nice lyrics because it's about someone specific kind of thing, and I was like, I really want to write nice lyrics about them, and like really tried to like do injustice and stuff like that.

And then I was like really happy.

With that because it's just straight how I feel kind of thing and it said what I wanted to say.

And then I also like, don't fence me in.

I like that one a lot because it's just kind of like, fuck, everyone, don't tell me what to do that make me small.

I want to be big. I want to enjoy life.

I want to enjoy HAPs of different things, So don't ever wrap me up and slow me down. And I also like, don't need to count because I think it's funny and I think it's fun.

Yeah, it's a great title. Is the person that you wrote magat about?

No?

Yes, what did he make of the track?

I think he's pretty I don't buy it, I think at first, and I think he's flattered by it.

He's kind of like, this is pretty dope.

I would absolutely love for someone to write a song about me. I mean, unless it was a disc track or an awful thing, but yeah, something like that. Like, what a cool song to have written about you as well, because it's like, it's really nice, but it's also really fierce as well. It's not like it's not Lady in Red, you know, it's still it's pretty close. It's pretty close, the closest you're going to get. Do you think would you ever write a ballad? Do you think you could write a Lady in Red?

I'll tell you what I love meat Life Paradised by the Dashboard Life. Yeah, that one's awesome.

If that's a ballad, I would love to write a ballad.

Yeah, yeah, I love a bit of I love a bit of meat loaf. It's so no one really makes music like that anymore, do they?

Like?

That was very much as time even then. I don't think anyone would making make Bonnie Tyler baby.

But is there anyone making music like that now? I don't know. No.

And this whole thing, and his whole the way he dressed and the way he looked and just everything about him. It was so kind of absurd but just brilliant and so sad. Yeah, it's a bit like that. I mean that's another thing, like that's so great about Dolly, isn't it. She's such a iconic figure. Everything about her a look, a music, yeah, incredible songwriter, just everything about her. It doesn't feel like there are that many of those huge characters.

Yeah, I guess so because she put in, She put an effort all the time.

I guess sat in late life. It's like they understood.

Like it's like they appreciate it enough to put an effort every time and like get dressed up or you know. It's I like it because it's not really human, but it's so deeply human, like they're unapologetically themselves, but there's nothing kind of.

Like the way they look.

It's like over exaggerated and kind of anti human in a way.

Yeah, Like you can't relate to it, can you. You can't look at meat Loaf in those huge rough shirts.

Not really. I guess maybe like do you know the cock Destroyers.

Who, sorry, the cock Destroyers, The cock Destroyers, the cock Destroyers, and I can't say I do tell me about that.

They're too ladies.

I think they're from London maybe, but they've just got these like massive fake boobs, massive fake lips.

They're like pro sex.

They they're sex workers, and they're just kind of like these big personalities and they're like that kind of same, like unapologetically themselves. They have a message they like are so human that they're like above human.

They're really really dope. You've got to google them.

What do they what do they do? They perform tracks or what's that thing?

No, they don't. They don't make songs. They're just kind of like Internet personalities. But also like they have like a YouTube channel and they make porn.

But I don't watch the porn. I just like them.

Yea, the cock Destroyers. Man, I'm in the name alone. Had you had me at the name.

They're awesome.

But I'll put that in the same category really as meat Life and Dolly.

I reckon Meatloaf would be flattered by that. I'll put a link below this when we put this up, I'll put a link below to some cock destroyers content.

Yeah, and links. They're only fans so they can get some k is.

Yes, so will Yeah. Yeah, by the way, I think you guys should you guys could definitely do a good cover of Bow of Hell right out of Hell. Yeah, that's what That's what I want to hear next. All right, that would be amazing, that.

Would be incredible. That'd be so unexpected.

Have you had to do the the show is Triple J right in Australia? Do the cover sessions called like, have you done one of those?

No? We haven't.

Would you would you do? Would you would you want to do one of those? Or is that just not not for you? Guys?

It's hard to say if I would or not. I would maybe do it, but I also maybe wouldn't. We haven't.

We've gotten a little bit of support from them recently, but that's a new thing.

So yeah, right, got yeah, Well, if you ever take the opportunity, I think you should do that out of Hell. I think that's what you should do. And actually, even if you don't get the opportunity, I think you should just do it anyway and just put just put.

It it surprise everyone.

Yeah. The stuff that I hear in like that in the new record is like I hear a lot of hardcore in this one, yeah, which like is kind of the scene that you grew up in, right, listening to a lot of DC hardcore and stuff like that.

Just a lot of local hardcore really, like just I didn't know any kind of big bands or anything like that, but if someone like that'd be like bands that would who are along the coast and they would stop by my town and just play and they'd have like fifty people there, and I was like, this is cool.

Like, if I've probably listened.

To it now, it'd probably be really average, but at the time it was really exciting. But we're all really big fans of like Cromags and Warthog and yeah, just like all that kind of stuff.

I can't think right now, but yeah, you.

Can also hear like your love for rapping it as well.

Oh yeah, I love rap music. Heaps.

That's cool that you can hear it.

Is that your is that you're like growing up? Was that the thing that first got you into music? Was it was wrapped the thing for you?

I remember one of the first couple of CDs I got it was a what was it was the best of Sleigher I think, and best of ice Cube.

Okay, well, I mean that makes sense when you listen to everyone of the sniffers, that makes total sense that they were your records. Who are your rappers? Like growing up? Who are your heroes from that?

Just basic stuff really like I never really dove deep into music and like never really you only think that exclusive or hidden.

It was just really surface level.

So yeah, like ice Cube, I really liked NWA, really liked I liked em and M.

I like Biggie Small's just like all that kind of stuff.

The greats, yeah, yeah, all the greats.

Yeah, but at the moment, I really like do you know Bruce Ey.

No, I don't.

Oh he's the best. He's I think he's from Nottingham. He's really great. It's like, b are you hyphen c? Like that kind of grimy drum and bassed stuff is really dope. I really like Slow Tie. I like Jungle Pussy. She's really really sick.

Yeah.

Yeah, the new Jungle Pussy at the album that came out earlier in the year was brilliant.

Wasn't it so good? She's incredible?

You know. I really loved your Verse on Nudget on the Sleep of Mod's track, Thanks brilliant for We're put a link to that blow as well. I guess for people that's kind of your that's you wrapping the most you've wrapped. I would say, personally, maybe it's because of the track and the you know, the beat on it

Yeah, and your bit.

And it's great because it's kind of a shot of Golden Hour right where you're around. It's wicked. It just looks great. It's such a good Juxtas position because those guys are walking around a block in Nottingham, in gret Nottingham and it cuts to you in this beautiful, dazzling sunshine at sunset.

It was really funny as well when we were filming that, Like we were so we're like driving on these backstreets and whatever, driving back and forth because they're shitting at the back of the car or whatever. And at one point this like man and a baby kind of came out of the house and they were like wait and the driver was like yeah, and he's like, oh, I was just wondering can I get Can my baby get a fighter with Amy? So I got a fight with a baby that day?

Well, I found Yeah, does that happen often? Or was that? Like is that quite rare?

Not?

The baby thing?

That was the first baby I held. I was pretty taken aback by it. It was it's like a big hot lump of like dough. But that happened sometimes. Like down the supermarket this afternoon, some some lady was like Amy, and I was kind of like, yeah, I just forgot that people know who I am.

So she was kind of like, hey, what's going on.

I imagine they were all kind of saying nice things to you, like when they see you, they're.

Like yeah, very very nice, Yeah, super friendly.

They weren't want us to say nothing negative or I would fucking end up with a black eye.

That talking of like the rap stuff. I saw a clip. What was that clip of you that you posted recently on like a TV show where you were wrapping wap Cardi B's wap To but you were reading the recipe from a Coca Cola recipe book.

Yeah, so there's this is tryan TV show.

It's like a kind of I don't know what you call it, but it's a TV show to like musicians and stuff called Fix and Specs. And they have a segment called Substitute where a musician has to they get given like a book and then they have to sing a song but with.

Different lyrics out of her book.

So I did Cardi B's wap to Classic Cooking with Coca.

Cola amazing, But it looked like it looked like this this show from the clip that you showed, it's hosted by Adam.

Hills, right, yeah, Adam Hills.

Yeah, because he's like huge here.

Now I don't know, it's the last leg, is that right?

Exactly? Does the last leg and it's like one of the biggest shows on terrestrial TV here. Now, I didn't actually realize he also had a show back home still he must like, yeah, fly backwards and forwards all the time. What time does that show go out? It looked like quite like a mainstream show.

Yeah.

Yeah, it's like it's like prime time.

I think it's like seven point thirty on a Sunday or something like that.

And in those moments, is there part of you that's thinking, holy shit, I'm on TV. How does this?

Oh my god?

Yeah, I'm like, I'm on TV. I have no idea what's going on. It's so bizarre. But I'm like, this is crazy.

Is it just like like you say, like with the band, like you guys just seem to throw yourself into things and just think I'll give that a go.

Yeah, definitely.

I mean it's simple, it's it's it's bizarre, but it's not as bizarre as you'd think. Like you kind of just do it and you're doing it and then it's done and then you're like, oh, well that's something that happened. Even though it's super exciting and super special and it feels really cool, I'm like, I.

Just feel cool to be on TV. I'm like, fuck yeah.

But it's also just yeah, it's like if I was working at the supermarket and you know, maybe like I'd get new food in and I.

Was like, oh, this is exciting. You could just it's just normal.

I guess have you always been that way? Have you always been someone that just throws themselves into things like as a kid and stuff.

Yeah, I think so. It's hard to remember, but I think so.

I just I just want to try stuff and give it a go and see what happens.

Would you go into space?

I don't know if I'd do that. Yeah.

The reason I say is because did you see that Richard Branson went up into space last week?

No? I don't even know who that is.

Okay, So Richard Branson is kind of our He's like a British version of Elon Musk. I guess he's a billionaire. He owns Virgin Records and the airline Virgin. Yeah, he's quite old. Now, he's quite an old guy. It feels to me like right now the world's are obviously insane in so many ways, but there are like a handful of billionaires who are obsessed with getting into space. Elon Musk is one, Jeff Bezos is one. Richard Branson has always been a bit obsessed with space anyway. He took

What did he do out there? Where did he go?

Well?

It lasted ninety seconds. He just flew into space for ninety seconds on this new rocket. I mean, quite amazing in a way, but also completely pointless in my opinion.

But I bet you that.

Has had a bunch of times. It only lasted ninety seconds.

It's mad that, you know, someone's got that's what They've got so much money to just be able to essentially dick about this sort of stuff. But it get me thinking, Like some friends and I've been saying, would you go would you go into space if you were given the opportunity a free ticket to space? I don't think I would.

I feel like that's one of the things I don't know if I do. I mean, like, how long am I out there for? What am I doing out there? You know what I mean? Yeah, I feel like if I was going.

There for like and there was like a time limit, maybe like a month out on Mars return trip, I'd be like, I'll give it a go, but realistically to get in Mars it's going to take years.

Then I'm there, then I come back. Then what I don't know? I don't know.

And also the world is just so big, like there's so much to do and see here that I'll never get to do and see, So I don't know, I'll stick to I'm just figuring out this place.

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