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Mick Shots: Victory Monday

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A whole lot went into the Cowboys walk-off 20-17 victory over the Los Angeles Chargers on Sunday, and the guys hit all the high points, from the Cowboys homefield advantage at SoFi, to the play of Micah Parsons and Terence Steele, to the Cowboys running game and explaining just what happened in that final minute of the game with the time clock.

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The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. This is Mick Shot screaming live on Dallas Cowboys dot Com and the official Dallas Cowboys at now Here are Bill Jones, Everson Walls, and Nicky Spagnola. And welcome to a victory Monday of mix shots. Mickey, can you sing happy days are here? Here? I don't sing good, I'm glad you do. And welcome to Mick Shots, Bill Jones, Everson Walls and Mickey's Spagnola.

After a twenty to seventeen win over the Los Angeles Chargers, Mickey is working on how much sleep? Um? I think I eat together an hour and a half on the plane and then got home and maybe another hour and a half. Well it happened three o'clock, three hours? Oh yeah, what do you need right until you fall out later? That's what somebody said. How you doing? I go asked me at three, Nikky, you picked Cowboys to win? It? I did? Yeah? What was this? Thirty one thirty thirty

one point win? Yeah? I picked the Cowboys to win? If you recall, yes I do Greg's urline field goal. Yes you did? How about Everson. I am disappointed. I want to challenge this game. I want to challenge challenge the results of the game. Here's the deal. Everson is going to pick against the Cowboys the rest of the scene. I'm not doing that because it's work. You have to keep picking against right, No, if it's going to have these kind of results, then Everson's got to pick against

the Cowboys on Friday. I'll tell you what. I was so happy. Of course, I'm pulling from the entire time, But god man, you know this is this is not working out. Well, I need the O and two. I need the O and two to work out so that all of my stuff could come into fruition. So one of going that I got to refigure things. He could have been right there on the NFL Network show. Yeah everybody else people can't. Yeah, tell us about that. So Jerry Jerry had an appearance just minutes away from his

birthplace in Los Angeles. It's Sofi Stadium a mile on Sunday. They found the house too, They had a picture of it. I saw that, Um, a little loverly done. I thought, what the house? No, I mean the fact that he was born there, Well, who knew? They all though he was frus. You could tell me I don't need to have a pictorial, you know what I mean. I don't need get ready because it's the story is going to repeat itself February right back, going back. That's when I

want to see it. We're gonna do that. That's want when you break the news. He was born last year backyard of Sofi Stay. The NFL network offices are right across the street from Sofi Stadium, and it's pretty neat building and so they've got the So he did like a segment I believe it was nine thirty, nine thirty

local time. Uh did a segment on there with Michael and then when they go out on the field, he went out there for the picks, right, and uh so they all they were all apologizing, right, but they all took the charges until they get to Michael, right, and he's got that goofy wolf thing, lone wolf hat that he puts on that he was getting ready. He was getting ready, he was getting ready to put it on Jerry, and Jerry backed off and goes, does that thing bite right?

I have cod? Yeah? Yeah, and so this oh yeah, he was like yeah, no, no, no, what you're doing right. Well, the funny thing is, so they finished and there's a fence around that field. Well, somehow, some way, Cowboy fans knew he was on there, and they were lined up on the fence. And this was before noon, so it was three hours, three and a half hours before kickoff, and they were all lined up there, cheering and yelling, and he went around and fist bumped everybody right down

the fence. I said, just like Jerry, right, And that gave me the idea that the Cowboys were going to have home field advantage in state. There's no doubt. I knew that before we got there. We talked about the state of California having probably more registered Cowboy fans than any other state except for Texas. Was not surprised at all when we kicked the winning field goal. It was like a place when it was like a home game. Tobicky, you were there, What was the percentage Cowboys fans versus

O it? To me, it was it might have been more than fifty fifty. And you count the celebrities they have more that that goes towards two votes, right, there were two regular people and yeah, all the celebrities, Cowboy fans. It was. It was a pretty blue looking crowd. They all had the Cowboy blue jerseys. And I think the bottom line was um Zack Martin pointed out that they never had to go Silent count He said, but I think I saw the Chargers going Silent County right well.

Then afterwards after the game, and this would have been at least an hour or so after the game. The Cowboys where their locker room was, They had to walk the length of the field to get to where the buses is sort of like he had to do with the Superdome in New Orleans. And there were still Cowboy fans in the bunker suites almost all the way down right, And I was walking out with Dak and Rich Dalrymple and they were going crazy, yelling and screaming for him.

And the funniest thing was we got to the end up in the stands, all all the workers they were cheering for Dak. That the workers at so far were cheering for Dak. It was or was it, Mike? Yeah, I made sure I got out of the way so they could they could have their day. You know. It reminds me of when we first s built uh Jerry's World at and T Stadium. A few teams came in there whooped out butts and they had such a great time coming to that beautiful stadium. First of all, they

want to see it and to have victory there. It just gives you a little bit more of a satisfaction, right, And so that's kind of what we felt yesterday, and the stadium satisfacts. The stadium, by the way, is spectacular. Yeah, it's it's really it looks it looked, you know, in some of the shots on television, especially the ground level shots, it didn't look real. It looked fake to me, right, it looked like a fake background. Somebody did some fantadio

video game. And it's neat because it's an open air stadium, but it's got the transparent roof on it, right, so the light comes in. If it's breezy, the breeze comes in. And I think that's the reason, because the lighting is so good in there. Yeah, that it looked it didn't look real. It looked like a video game, and uh, yeah it was. And then I found out that the

field was one hundred feet below ground. So basically what you see when you're walking there is the top of the stadium and that's just about it, and the rest of it's all in the ground. So yeah, it's pretty cool place, pretty cool, cool scene, and a pretty cool ending for the Cowboys that I think they were quite fortunate to be able. It's really weird. They should have won last week and they didn't. They might have should have lost this one, and they and they tell people

it balances out all the time. I don't care if we complain about bad calls. I don't care if we complain about bad plays. It just balances out. When it all said, you could say that we could have, oh not won several games, not last year, but the year before that. Right, So, I mean, you know, you started talking about the different penalties and oh well Brady only through one interception. He really didn't throw two interceptions. You know, it really doesn't matter which game and all the stats.

It all comes down to you have to make your plays regardless of what the calls are. And I as much as I'm still gonna really have some problems with the officiating, which was especially uneven yesterday. I thought they would.

I thought they were pretty bad. I thought even some of the plays that the calls they made for us there was there were calls that were tikie tack and then there were some that were obvious that they didn't throw a flag gun, like the interference on the Oh the guy drove in, It's like, yeah, you dove right through his value, right. He first of all, he grabbed make sure he had his arm. That's why he couldn't

catch the bright um. But anyway, when it was halftime, I'm sitting there, Cowboys are up fourteen eleven, and I'm going, okay, they dominated this first half and they were only three points and if you looked at the yardage, it was two seventy three to one ninety nine. The Cowboys had rushed for ninety six I think it was, and the Chargers forty five. And the first downs in the yeast thirteen. Yeah, that was that's a record, franchise record, tied an NFL

record for first downs in a quarter. Um. Yeah, and you know, and here they are it's only fourteen eleven. So, but a win is a winning two different halves, right, it was two different halfs. Yeah, especially possession and there weren't any possessions eight. It's like that's you're usually getting twelve thirteen somewhere around there. So yeah, it was a strange game. Uh, and I don't know where you want to go. I got like half a dozen mix shots for you want to start off with one shot? It

was us. We got a Mike shot right off the bat, first quarter, Mick shot. Yeah. Yeah. The Cowboys first wins scoring less than thirty points since Game fifteen of twenty eighteen. Wow. The last previous fifteen wins they had scored thirty points and it never won a game scoring less New Orleans twenty Uh it was they beat Tampa Bay. The last time they had won one without scoring thirty was twenty

seven twenty Tampa Bay. Okay, so yeah, sometimes you gotta win twenty to seventeen, right, and they hadn't been doing that because they always you got to win close games better, lower than thirty point games. Yeah, absolutely, So, um, what

does that say the defense? And it's almost like everybody's applauding the defense, and I'm going, okay, but gave up four hundred and some yards and you know, three hundred and thirty eight passing and and by the grace of God, two touchdowns got called back and then he was it.

Did he hit the up. He hit the upright on that field goal, right, So they left seventeen points easy on the field and probably twenty one because their first in goal at the two on that drive that they ended up tying the game the field goal at the end and they get an illegal shift. Now it's first in goal at the seven incompletion, And then I thought I was watching Bob Lilly out there Parsons chasing Justin Herbert for an eighteen yard sack. Did you see how

quickly he closed? And see, you just can't teach that, and you can see it when he came out of college, all the plays that they showed on him, he was closing quickly. And we commented on that before we even drafted him. When you make that kind of space disappear like that, the qualit back panics. Yeah, he thinks he think he could back up. I got okay, Yeah, I

don't even. You don't even. It's gonna be a situation where they're and they already well, I mean, they're in their game plan and they got to figure out where number eleven is. Okay, and when the beauty of it, we just we just found something and we knew it was there. Yeah, I mean what we say when Lawrence got hurt. First thing we said, they gotta they gotta start rushing Parsons, and and and the and the thing I think Urban needs to understand is like, well, he's

going to be the starting defensive end. No, he's not going to be the starting defensive end. He had thirty nine snaps, so fifty five percent of the snaps. So they when they first put him out there like that, the Chargers had a target on him, like I told you, even going to run at his little skinny ass. And then they started just putting him in more passing Suit. I think it had as much to do with I mean, it takes a lot to exert that kind of effort, yes,

on every play when you're a Russian. Well, let me say this. It started off like you said this, Skinney, the lads was in trouble, but as the game will on, he wore them. Second half was amazing. And he wasn't just him. He saw doing doing some getting some good work in. Everyone kind of followed suit after that. He created so much habit. They're three hundred plus yards passing.

They were almost just like nickel and dimes. They they reduced their passing game down to the middle of the field, and the closer they got to the end zone, the less effective they were. You know what, I liken it too and when, and I think I tweeted it out at halftime. I know I tweeted it out at halftime, even though Michael Parsons, I don't even know if he had was credited with a quarterback pressure in the first half, but just once but in the first half half, No,

he got, he got. I don't even know what his stats were or anything. I just said he can be an elite pass rusher in this league. And it's almost like a great cornerback shutting down one side of the

field because they have to know where he is. And even if he's not getting credited with a pressure or a sack or anything like that, just the mere fact his closing speed is so unreal with four three five speed and has quickness, it's a factor to the off exactly where that quarterback has always got to be aware of this guy coming off the edge or up the middle or wherever, and it's going to affect them as

far as getting the ball out. You know, it's it's almost like, you know when the quarterback goes to line of scrimmage, he's identifying the middle linebacker. He's identifying. He had three three hurries. The Cowboys had five in the first half. He had three, didn't have any tackles, but he was coming. And then at the end when he did his press conference, he was complaining that, you know,

we got to have more. He goes out, I didn't do enough because what m ended up happening is when he wasn't rushing the quarterback from defensive end, he wasn't playing any linebacker. They never put him back in linebacker. And see, I think that they made the decision when Lawrence went down on Wednesday that they are just going to play him at defensive end because being his second NFL game, they didn't want to overload him, just like with any rookie, right, and so they don't. Now going forward,

he is going to show that he can. He showed it right off the bat, he was calling the signals his first game in the NFL. He can handle it mentally, but they just wanted to make sure we're not going to overload his plates. His first time to play this position at this level, and he didn't play that position basically in college although he did in high school. But okay, now going forward, he can handle this, he can handle that.

And when you get your guys back. You hopefully get Gregory back this week, and then six weeks from now you get Orange back. You can use him. You can start him at linebacker, and then in passing situations you can line him up off the edge. He's gonna be able to handle the full door. So I was number seventy four for charges, the backup tackle who was stormed Norton right, nothing and nothing was getting his bucket. But that's what was going on. He probably was black the

game was over. He was holding almost every play and when you look at that charges offensive line, they remind me of the Raiders back in the day. Almost every play you could see someone being held. So we talked about the calls that were made. They missed a lot o those. One time Parstons came through. This is after some crap call. They picked up some call we got

and he's running. He's rushing through. He went outside and just before the quarterback through the ball, he was spun by seventy before he literally grabbed him and spun him and Parston's hand you could see quarterbacks over here, he's trying to rest the guy spun him like that and you can see his hand going like that. You wouldn't make that kind of move unless someone just grab you and you're trying to. Of course, set it with the referee. They did not call it, but I saw the Sunday

Night game. They called that same look in the Sunday Night game. So it just lets you know they just couldn't handle all the infractions that the charges with the the and they ended up throwing. They were in double digits at half time. It could have been more. It could have been more. So I think when Gregory gets back then Gregory and Armstrong, I think they're good with that at defensive end. Then they could spot him at times. But he goes back in place linebacker and you were right,

he said. Somebody asked him when this the last time he played defensive end? It was high school. When did you know you were going to play defensive end? He goes after practice on Wednesday. They called him in and said, okay, here's what we're doing, and got him as ready as possible, and you know, he was pretty ready, and you're right.

His speed. It takes me back to training camp that hard knocks line when Dak's watching him, and he did some play where he was just so sudden and and and and Dak goes, um, I'll clean it up as good as I can. He said, damn, he's fast, but it wasn't damn okay, and and yeah, yeah right, I think I get away with that, right. So yeah, he was, Uh, he was amazing, and uh, you know, he ended up finishing the game with I think it was just like three tackles, but he has the sack, he had a

tackle for a loss, four quarterback hits. So yeah, he was a menace out there, and they still threw for three hundred and thirty eight yards. I think I saw your friends at Pro Football Focus had him as the number two rated pass rusher in the league. Oh yeah, with a nineties something great well, And the only reason maybe they got that right. The only reason I felt like he could do well is because you know, I can't think of the guy in the is it freening

for the coat? That's exactly what I was thinking. And that's you know, when y'all saw he was kind of new a guy that's small, but he's able to use it to his advantage the big guys. You know, that's what we were talking about. Same thing, make you laugh, make you cry. It's just hard for him to get down there to deal with somebody that's small and dynamic.

Of course, I figured it would work out in his favor, but I didn't know he would wear him down, like the entire second half that that was a pleasant suppost. And the thing about about him and Parsons is that he's not that small, but he's built load of the ground. And then that's the exactly right And then that's exactly who I would think of, because you think of these, especially a four three defensive end, being a big, rangy

guy type of guys. Yeah, I tried six four h and you know, he's more like a six two guy who can get load of the ground. And he's so fast, you know, he covers ground, so he does doesn't have the link that you're looking for. To your point, as far as running at him, he doesn't have the link with his arms. I think it's thirty two inch arms where he can't hold off a tackle. That's that's that's very avage. Yeah, he's just got to beat him with

his first step at his speed. But he's got strength, and you don't realize how big he is because you when he's around everybody else six three is okay. Well, I happened to step into the elevator when he was going up at the hotel on Saturday night, and I was like, yeah, he's pretty big. He's a rock. He's a rock. And the other thing is he loves the game exactly. He's got more want to yeah than about anybody that he'll come again, you know. And we talked

all week about worrying about Joey Bosa. Yeah, he stole the joke. You know, I knows got tyranny. We got we got twenty twenty minutes in. But the guy that surprised me was Terence State. He was the unsizing because Scott. They gave him some help, but not every play right. The tight end was one negative. The yeah he lost him one time. Uh uh. The running backs were chipping.

There was one play where he had beaten Steel to the inside and Pollard came across the formation and just lamb blasted them, just came out of nowhere and nailed him. But Steel, they left him out there several times, to the point at one point they moved him over to the right side, and it's like, oh, you want to go against Tyrann Smith. Okay, so let's see. And then and then the second half they he wasn't an every

down outside the linebacker defensive end. They were spotting them in pass rush situations, so it was almost they reduced them to a part time player. That was amazing. Uh, just to clear it up on Parsons and uh, he's six three and one eighth, so he's actually taller than we were giving him credit for. I said, yeah, six three and eight, all right, And he's his arm length is shorter than I gave him, really thirty one and

a half arms. So that is why the scouts projected him as a linebacker and not as a defensive end right and edge rusher. I'm not so much in edge rusher, but being able to play defense in them because of the arm length more than anything. Get those eleven inch hands though. You love those eleven inch hands no matter what position you're playing. All right, we continue with more mix shots in just a moment. Honey, big news, Gary, are you okay? Oh? I'm not Gary anymore. I'm Jackie Flash.

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about we go to the end of the game. We start at the very end of the game, and what was going on with the clock management at the end? So I want to see if you guys were right there with me. Okay, So they uh, they ended up with the second play right, and the ball Tony Pollard, Tony Pollard and and a lookout blocked by Ceedee lamb right. I don't know what the hell that was. I think he just like, you know what, this guy's coming too fast.

I'm going to let him go. So it was don't get a hold thirty self something after he jumped out of the way and then look at the sidelines like, hey, you wanted to block this gun. So after the first down pass twelve yards to Marie Cooper, it got him to the LA once again. What happened to Cooper? They said it was a ribbed thing, so they so he got clipped when he when when he was making the move I think because I thought he got hit in the head too, but they said it was a ribbed thing,

so that cost him a timeout. Yeah, so it stopped the clock with thirty six seconds to go, and so you guys would probably like me, Okay, let's make sure that you know you get another ten fifteen yards, but drain that clock, right. So the first play was the real quick out to Cedric Wilson four yards any steps out of bounds, So that stopped the clock with thirty three seconds left. They went the three wide receivers and

Schultz flanked out. So it's second at six at the forty one, and they run Pollard for three yards and I'm going, okay, that's gonna take some time off the clock. So now it's third and three at the thirty eight, and my math is telling me that's a fifty six yard field goal. You need to make this a little easier for zeroline, right, And they got one time out left, so the clock's ticking and ticking, and I'm going, whoa, well, no, whoa,

what are you doing? You know, if you're not ready, if you're not ready to snap the ball, at least called time out, right, And then they were gonna run a play. So here's no, the intention was to run a play. They were going to run a play. They lost track of the clock. So here's what happened. They ended up with a personnel malfunction. Pollard was coming off the field and he wasn't supposed to come off the field, so they had to shoot him back on all right.

And then in the meantime, for some reason, they were following the clock on their spectacular video board above. Well that video board. After a play, they'll show a replay up there, right, so the score and the time goes away, and so then they they I think they kind of panicked, like okay, and then I think when they saw the clock again, it was down to seventeen, and that's what they decided. Okay, got McCarthy said, once he got under seventeen, it's almost like their policy just take it on, just

take just you know. Kellen Moore, he got under seventeen and looked like they were trying to snap the ball. Dacks look like, he's I think they told now. I think they told him let it run, kick in the field goal. But they wanted so he explained it at the at the top of his press conference, and then it was like, I don't know if he explained that well. So I said, can you do that again? Was your intention to run a play? And he goes, yes, we wanted to run a third McCarthy. Okay, wanted to run

a third down play. He goes, but we lost the clock. Well, so what you have to do in these games? Because I had to get used to it too. There's there's the ribbon board at the ends, and that one stays up there the whole time, but the other ones disappear right right, and so somebody said, oh, where the chargers messing? I said, no, you gotta know it because Jack was

looking at the right one. He knew what was going on, and I think when they thought it get it under seventeen, it was like, okay, so he's actually listening to them as when I'm thinking he's about to run a play right, so but he can hear that, and I think they cut it off with whatever the play clock was at. But since there was so little time left, the play clock was still going, so they just let it run out on purpose. Do you know what I was looking at?

Can you do an intentional grounding from shotgun? That's what I was hoping that. Oh, I see it. If they did snap it, he could just you know, yeah, can you do that from shotgun? Understand? I think you got to be under center? Yeah. Yeah. At other levels you can do it from the shot or you can do what Brady did at the end game. He just threw it to the over the guy's head on the outside. You got to have somebody over there, I know, like Texas High school, maybe even in college. You can now

do it out of the shotgun. At first you couldn't, and then when everyone was going to the spread and the shotgun, they changed after the rule to where you can. The other part of that is Kellen Moore was I think he was relying on the ribbon right, that is that that stays there, right, and he his vision got blocked by one of the sideline cameras like the CBS has the roaming sideline camera, and it happened, it happened to block the clock at that point. But you're right.

I mean, that's the first thing I know when I'm doing a game as as a broadcaster, I'm trying to figure out, Okay, where's that permanent clock. And coaches are like that too, But in this case, they let's look at this, guys. To the other time, the Cowboys would have blown this. It took me the fact that we didn't blow this. That's that's an improvement. Well, here's to

we will just take this and blow it all. It took me a good quarter to find the clock that had the thing up there the whole time, because they had some on the side sideline and that one would disappear. And so you have got a heavier advertising right by god, don't let us know what. Yeah, here's the way I look at it. Though. Yes, you'd like to run a play, you'd like to run a good play and get ten yards or whatever her. But I do like the fact that once things were going haywire, they just decided to

play a concern. They they can't panic calm it down, and they wanted to make sure that they had that time out, a full time out to use to get their kicker onto the field. And everything's calm, even if it is a fifty six, and it's and it's definitely as it was proven, it was definitely within his range to take a fifty six. And if you if you

hit it well, it's perfect playing conditions. If you hit it well, and that's his you're gonna make it from fifty six just as as you'd make it from fifty one, right, forty six whatever, Yeah, and it wasn't worth the gamble for life. Oh we're gonna get fives. I was watching him in pregame in Tampa and it was happening to be from fifty six yards and he was nailing them in Tampa and the one he missed one and the one he missed in Tampa it was sixty and he

just miss hit it. Here's the other thing to consider on that, okay, is all right, you get a holding call, right, you get a bad play whatever where you lose your yardage and now you're out, you're out of field goal range. And you know if all start like you know, now you're back five yards whenever that yeah, so that's why you want to make sure everything's under control. And once once it was getting away from them, just okay. Just the other part of it is it's a tie game

at the very worst. Pressure is not it's not you're not trailing, you know. And you're right that the environment was sterile, no wind, you got a home crowd, home crowd. And that's his Hans line right there. That's the side of the because you can get more power right coming around as opposed to trying to, yeah, push it to them. So but that's what happened. And you know, I think

everybody's like, oh, there they go, mismanaging the clock. Well there was a reason, and it was almost like the unintended consequences worked out for him, right, and many times that does not us. And I liked the whole approach on that drive too, and made plenty of time, uh to go when it started when it started. But even when they got down um tears in the two minute range, they were running the ball, they were to what did they re mind you of re mind you of Tampa

Bay against us. It's the exact try, that's right. And I felt just as comfortable as the Bucks fans felt when Brady took over. So they ran the ball. Seven of the eleven place seven of them. Now the differences, and they were and they were gaining yards now also by the way the differences. Brady got him down to the eighteen yard line there. Six. Yeah, he spent three plays just into the stage I try. He got him down there with with forty five seconds left, but we

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yeah it is, you know. Sleep Yeah, speaking of sleep, there we go that's I can't believe that many people fly on that flight. It takes off at twelve fifty one. That's when I come back from California. That's that's the flight I want to be on. Yeah, well, that's what I'm We used to do when we were in newspaper like training camp would break in Thousand Oaks, they'd play that last preseason game. We'd go and hang out at the Black Whale restaurant and then take the Red Eye back.

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Fan and Famous podcast. All right, go ahead, that nice. Okay, So I'm going to go with the cornerback or running back situation. Well, I think the running back to start tell me about it, and and I think we need to put it in perspective of what was going on why they did it that way, And it goes back to what I said earlier about making those pass rushers play the run. And I think they figured out if if if we're gonna make them play the run, we're

going to hit him with speed to the outside. And that's why Pollard got the carries he got and the success he got to when they're playing that I used to say back in the nine is when the Cowboys with Emmett Smith and that offensive line would play a three four defense, just go right after those outside game backers because they're they're they're the rushed quarterback right make them play the run. And the Cowboys exposed that time and time again with some of his outside stuff that

he can do better than Zeke. Zeke is hitting between the tackles and had really there was some power there. It was and that's when those guards kicking. But and then you give them. Yeah, the changeups. Not a slow pitch. This one's fast. And it worked perfectly. They rushed for one hundred and ninety eight yards, so the most yards rushing since they went for two twenty three in the

season finale in twenty nineteen. Uh So, yeah, they had it going and they kept him off balance, and I think that helped dull their their pass rush because now all of a sudden, they got to worry about something else and both he could not handle that. He could not hand the loud tackles in the run situation, right because they were blowing him off the ball. He kept trying to go around, just like you were talking about

the skinny asses. Yeah right, he looked like a skinny ass when when he was trying to go around still and trying to go around Tyler, it's just not gonna work. So so I don't think you know, we got a running back controversy. I think you've got a two back system. You got a two back system now, uh And people now have to worry when they could see pole and you know, and they early in the game they ran

a couple of two backs too. They were both there at the same time, and you know, one guy would go out in the pass pattern the other guy played. What was these numbers? He was no. Seventy one rush one he had sixteen for seventy one about receiving and the two for twenty six he got. He maybe had more than that because I'm not sure if I factored in the fourteen yards he got on the blast play of the first tas he got a y. That's right,

it was received yards. I'm sorry, that's yeah, that's receiving yards. Yeah. So um that that texts onto the receiving yardage. At halftime, he had no receptions for fourteen yards, so they they combined for five catches for twenty seven yards, so he got over a hundred so yeah, total yards basically. So yeah, and I think it just kept him off balance. So uh and that helps the next game, right, Philadelphia has got to worry about it. They all know how you're

gonna study. Yeah, which one you're gonna study for it? Because that's a quick hitter and the other one was all power, so they can buy rushing wise, they can buy twenty nine carries for one hundred and eighty yards and two touchdowns. You'll take that out of your running game. Whether yeah he's doing it, who's doing either, as long

as it ain't quarterback, that's right. And with the additional games in, you know, seventeen game season and so forth, you want to keep them both healthy and and that's the trend all around the league. He gets to have more than one running back, and maybe Tennessee might be the only team that that just goes. So don't don't minimize what Zeke did in this game, right, and he almost made need both of them. Spectacular player we talked about Adelie. He plays some ball. Yesterday he made some

big plays. He almost made going for a touchdown, right, yes, especially when he dove and he was smart enough to go up in the air because you know, if you leave and you just get the ball across before you land. Uh, he came within three yards, all right. Treyvon Trayvon digs he's on a pace of interception a game. Hey, was that a hell of a pick? That was? I mean, that's a kick. That's not luck, that's no tip. You know. I mean, he saw it and he went for it.

That's what we talked about. It was like a diving reception. He jumped it. He jumped it. He knew what was happening. He didn't wait for everything. He was aggressive for it, knowing what the quarterback wants to fill up. Covering one of the best receivers in the league and Alan Alan, that was a great battle that Alan had four catches for one oh eight and one of them was forty two yards where they just lost them. I don't know

what they were doing. They had a couple of plays like the one that got called back Ye Sky's twenty yards down field up by himself's them, right, And I don't know what the safety is doing. I don't know why digs let up on the Alan. If you keep running, that isn't another interception for you, right, And you know I did it too. You know, especially as a rookie, you just kind of you're thinking the plays away and

you know you're not supposed to do that. You know you have to be on point at all times, and that one moment, it just takes that one moment moment and he got a fingertip on it. Didn't. He still got it. He still tested and that I believe that was a cover too, because he trailed the entire time. So I'm assuming the safety is over the top because he was the touch sort of what happened to Anthony Brothy Brown. But he wasn't well, he was he was trailing and he got no help. Never said if you

got a fingertip on it, would you catch it. I'm not gonna lie. I'm not gonna lie. I'm gonna lie. They always wanted to go up, just like the rebound. Give me those two hands. I'm gonna I'm gonna fight you off. You know, it's a fight for the ball. I'm not gonna be trying to do all that with one hand. I didn't know the ou. I just went to grammar. So they got they have And he's talking about DJH interception of the year. There was the dumbest interception of the year. But go ahead. So they've got

go ahead. They're not listening to Bill. They've got four interceptions. They got four interceptions in two games last year. They didn't get the fourth interception until the eleventh game. WHOA. And it's not it's not just that they're getting interceptions. I mean that was the best fight. Now, the play of the year for us, it really was. That saved the touchdown was CAZy. That's how you say his name, CAZy crazy CAZy. Yeah, well my, my, my, my quiet

teacher was kau Z Well did the same way. But now that to me, right now, that's just the play of the year so far. And he gets the interception in the end zone. In the end zone, I mean that saved us, which is another could have been touchdown. Right. Here's the other thing. They're acquiring players with a history of making pay. Yes, I mean Diggs. There's a reason Digs can catch the football. They called Casey, they called him seven picks one year. He has he has a nickname, Yeah,

some kind of nickname out there. So you right, and I let me eat crow a little bit because of course, when they brought it in, CAZy and Coast and all those guys with the injured, the achilles and all that, Like, man, what are these bombs doing here? Kean O'Neill, Yeah, these guys are. They're balling right, They're stepping in and doing what they're supposed to be to show you how to play this defense. So they're leading by example in in two games games they've got six takeaways. They got the

six takeaway last year in the eighth game. So and that was one of their problems, right Delton that the end of the year they started started getting them getting them. They started right now it's quarter starting to continue that. And you know what, the other guy that was sort of I think an unstanding hegaro at that side of the ball was jay Ron Curse. I have him right here, but I expect him to be like a special teams But boy, and they was my unsung star. Last week

they created they created a spot for him. If you look at the starting lineup he started, they only had two linebackers out there. They've been playing him like a big linebacker in the slot. Uh. And he's way better than that. He's much more than that. I see him as a free safety. So, but he's versial enough where he can play in the box or he can play back in His line was six combined tackles. He had a tackle for a loss, a quarter back hit, and

one pass defense and he should have had an intercede. Yeah, he was up there. He had eleven tackles. Last week he had he had forty snaps on against Tampa. He had forty snaps on defense and twenty one on special. This guy, man, I'm definitely keeping my eye on this guy's he's he's Oura Wilson. As a matter of fact, this pay did for us last year. He only missed four defensive No, that was CAZy Curse sixty nine of

seventy one snaps ninety seven percent. There you go. So that's because Donovan Wilson wasn't there, right, and and and he's but what they started, and they had Kazy Hooker and Curse out there first for for the starters. So they're taking Jordan Lewis off the field. Well no, okay, so they were playing Jordan Lewis. They it was kind of a big die, right, So who are the linebackers? The majority of it was I'm talking starters, starters. Did you did you get this? Yeah? It was vander esh

and Smith. Okay, they well they and they only listed three well they listed three defensive lineman, but Parsons was probably Parsons was one of them. So the majority of the game it was vander esh in Jalen at the linebacker. When they went to the nickel uh at times Jalen would come out and Keane O'Neill came in, and comp times Neil was in and Jalen Smith stayed stayed in instead of Vander. They kind of so the five dbs they had on the field to start the game, Lewis,

Kasey Lewis, Lewis. Lewis didn't start there, you go, so Curse was in Lewis's spot, So they listed they basically listed three safeties in two corners. Yeah, so Jordan Lewis was not on the field to start the right but I mean, but he played in the sea. He was out. Let's see what they're doing with it. Lewis had seventy two percent of the snaps. Okay, okay, was out there before I know, we gotta go. But you know, we

talked about the course how he played. That interception just really would have topped off an excellent game, right, Was that the horrible call that I thought it was? Yes? I was. I was like, I don't know what did he do? I don't understand why they would make that call. And and and I was so mad at Romo yesterday because he kept co signing bad calls. And then even when they held up Vanderah coming through. Oh, I don't know, you don't know. The man grabbed him in his ear

hole and slung him down. And he seemed to be so forgiving to these referees. And one of the worst ref games I think I've ever seen, which, by the way, sit on Romo's mind that he's a cowboy's broadcast. He's trying. It's a natural thing that Akman went through the same thing and did the same I don't know. Hayman never seemed to like the cowboys when he that prob r. And it's, by the way, making sure that he's not you know, here's my last mix shot Vanderesh is Vandaresh's

I'm glad I stuted. Here you go, Chris, don't miss it. He ain't missing that. I thought it was a purposeful no. Vanderesh's sack. That was their first one of the year, So it took him eighty eight minutes to get a sack, and then they ended up with just two in the game, and they barely got credited with the second one. We're gonna take it for my man, absolutely, my man. Micah, all right, that does it for Mick shots. We got so much more to talk about tomorrow. We're one thirty

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