The following. Here's a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club Cowboys. This is Mick Shot screaming live on Dallas Cowboys dot Com and the official Dallas Cowboys at now Here are Bill Jones, Everson Walls, and Micky Spagnola. Well, it's Everson Walls and Mickey Spagnola. Once again. We're gonna have to spend send a doctor over to Bill Jones's house. We're gonna have to get a new intro sure making sure that he's okay. But
he's still under the weather. So we will just continue on with Mick Shots on this Wednesday at the SWBC podcast studio here in the Star. And it's a kind of a glorious fall after a really feels nice right nice, Yes, yes, the West afternoon, now, Spags, we come on it noon, So it is afternoon, right absolutely, And uh, I was glad to see the temperature because I was supposed to play tennis tonight at seven o'clock, so I was hoping I wasn't going to be free. Man, I saw you
limping around here. You know, I am not okay, you're not around here. I favor you, favor I recovered from my two week injury. I sprang okay, I sprained my good foot. Oh you didn't tell me. I saw you limping, and I'm like, man, he's still feeling at achilles injury. And I hid it right by the big toe, which is the worst, right, because you need your big toe to do anything athletic or bunyans I do. And that's where I hid. That's tort you. It's like, okay, I
need to get how many times did your case? Man? Who did you? Who did your case? And it ain't got worse? Yeah, myself because it was a dumb thing. I was outside barefoot by the pool when it was raining. Yeah, idiot. Anyway, you're right. There's a lot of tours going on here today as another one's coming through, and I think they can hear us as we started their head right, yeah, right, all right, you got it right, I hope this time. Yeah. Yeah, tell him it's not I did I did. I hear
you reprimanding bad man. It's like, hey, let's get it right. We need credit, that's right. So anyway, uh, cowboys on a different schedule than normal. On Wednesday, we just got out of the locker room for right at about an hour, they will have their team meeting right now. I think he was trying to keep them off their feet as long as possible, and then McCarthy at three o'clock and
they will practice at four UM. But it's a closed practice, so don't hang around to think you're gonna watch anything. If this was back in the day, yeah, and Nat and I were talking about it. We made mention of it yesterday. This would be one of those games where the entire team would have to be in on the film session. In other words, you don't save time by splitting up into your special team's coach and you watchings defensive and then break it even down more into the
position coaches. I mean, just the DBS watching together, linebackers watching in their own room, d lineman their own room. When it's a game like this, Tom Langie would make all of us kickers, lineman, DBS, running backs, receivers, all of us had to watch it together. Now, did you have to watch it immediately the day after Monday? Yes, we watched it Monday. I think, Yeah, that's what That's the way the schedule was too. But man, and it
probably was hard to watch. And that's what he wanted. Yeah, it's not just the punishment, it's it's about the you know, you can face things so many different ways as a coach. You know, you can say, well, it's about you know, accountability, Yeah, from all sides, which I kind of like that one, because you know, you can't tell me something different when we know what the truth is in this room, when you especially when you see it in in color now
not black and white. Back and forth, back and forth, back and forth, back and forth, back and forth, back and forth. Okay, thanks coach, I got it. I think I got it in that coach. I remember, I blew her. I remember one day and it was only like our softomore year in high school, and we're watching the game film and one of the guys was arguing with the coach. Right. Edie goes, okay, I want you to see this right that he did that? Back and forth, right and forth.
He goes, that's what I learned the term film dope. Why and see, that's how I watch a game, you know, And I know my son is my my little protege, so you know, he sits there and patiently listens to me. Just go over. I want to the game live game. Just stop the game, like, hod, Man, did you see that? Sound like, h yeah, Dad, I see it. You know, can we catch up to the game real time please, because yeah, you just you just see something, you notice it. And you said, man, that is not how you do it.
It's not that we're better than as as older guys. We made the same mistakes. Yeah, we made the mistakes. That's why we know. That's why I try to teach my kids. Don't make the same mistakes I make. You gotta make your different mistakes. And that's how you get better as a player. Right. You can't keep making the same mistakes. You better try to make some difference, you know. And that's what sounded like when we were talking to the guys about them watching the film and understanding that
it wasn't effort, it wasn't skill. It was just a matter of doing what you're supposed to do and not try to do the guys next job to you, and and and I was, you know, and I think it was never Gallimore was pointing out that, you know, if if you got the B gap and the guy next to you's got the gap next to you, and he jumps in the B gap and there's two guys in
the B gap. Well, the gap where somebody was supposed to be that now means that guy on the offensive line is on the linebacker, and the linebacker is not gonna make He's cut off, right, he is cut off. So the moral of the story was do your job and don't get gass. And sometimes yeah, and sometimes the play you don't make is the play you make. Now Here, here's what I think about good defense. I was there
with the Cowboys. You know, we hear our Doomsday two or whatever you want to call it, and then we I was with the Giants, which is really a lesson on just how really to play a certain type of defense with aggression. I learned to play good defense under Tom Landry and Bill Belichick. The thing you have to worry about with a good defense is a good defense will stop some of the greatest plays that never happened.
You understand, if if if you have, if your defense plays up to snuff, then Aaron Rodgers game never happens. You see, there's not Watson doesn't catch three touchdown passes. You see, those things don't happen if you play the defense correctly. That's the story that will never be told spags. You understand what I'm saying. So this moment will never happen because I did my job. And I can say that, always bring it up about San Francisco. That's the play.
When you do it right, that history made play should never have happened. So when I say that, I critique not because I'm better than It's because I've been there, right, trust me, I've been there. Well. I went back and looked at a lot of the plays. Although during the game I was doing what you were doing. I was like, Okay, I got to see that again, and I rolled my laptop back or the video on my laptop, and it's like, oh, okay,
that's why that happened. And you start seeing things and it was like the um, I think it was the fourth and seven play, the touchdown to to Watson, yeah. Um. And they were in a bunch formation to the right, and Watson was the rightest one on the right and so he cut behind one guy and the other guy crossed his face, so he went underneath and um, and he cut right between those two wide receivers going left and Bland, who's in the slot. He's playing five yards
off the line of scrimmage. So when you don't get your hands on that guy, he gets through the whole point of the bunch, he gets a cross, right, he gets a jump, he's running and you're standing flat foot right, and then he gets open and then the safety over the top hooker was reacting to the two other guys instead of the guys that was right right right now. Of course, that's by design. Now to me, if I see a bunch and I have a safety high, one
safety high, I'm gonna play to that safety. So I'm gonna be outside, if I'm gonna outside and deep, if I'm I'm sorry on top with leverage, right, if I'm playing man to man, that's safety. And I know it's tempting to go and help those guys, but they have their guys, like the two guys to the outside there outside the numbers. Right, if you have one high safety, don't worry about anybody outside the numbers. That guy crossed
your face, that's who you should have seen. And he threatened him early as well, because there was no one over on the other side. There was no one over there. And I also noticed on that play that um they had the Cowboys had seven guys on the line of scrimmage. Now two dropped off, but they weren't in coverage and they didn't drop off where Watson was cutting across. They end up having a five man rush and didn't get there, which meant he had all the time all the way
and he really didn't even need it. Yeah, yeah, he was. He was open from the beginning, right, and they kid he hit him. So anyway, Uh, you know, it's just uh and the other and the other thing on Hooker and I'm not trying to lay blame, but the two other guys that were over there in the bunch, they ran short routes, so the safety didn't really have never right, And that's kind of how that play turned out. But it's amazing when you go back, when you go back in and kind of look at the things, um and
even the two interceptions. Yeah, you know, it was like and I could see afterwards watching it and watching Lamb how he reacted at the goal line. It was like, Schultz, you were supposed to that guy out and then it was an easy touchdown because the corner or whoever was in the slot covering Lamb, he was outside, he was like seven eight yards behind him. It would have been an easy throw away. C Lamb caught the same time, not the same play, but in the later manner. Yeah,
and just got to clear that guy out. And as it ended up, he ended up instead of going out like that, he went up and kept it right in front of him and you can see it playing his day, right, And so they had that discussion on the sideline, and there was another play later in the game and they did it right. And that's why CD was so wide open. And you know what's so crazy, Like you said, it's not about blame, but it is about accountability. And so let's just be real, CD, for the for a major
portion of the game, play excellent football. Yeah, there's no doubt a bad way. Eleven catches one fifty something like, right, man, that's it. That's a day. That's a number one receiver right there. Yeah, but you have to have that reputation of being that and they'd always have been that dog, right, And so that means that every play you're gonna make sure that you put your team in a my position.
So when you have to make that route, when you have to run your route, the regardless of who's in there, regardless of the contact they might be made. Regardless of the mistake or whatever, you gotta go in there and keep that guy from cutting you off right as a as a wide receiver. And that's what happened on the second interception. Going back to the first interception, if Schultz had flattened his route off, that safety who made the
interception forward would have gone with them. That's correct, right, and then they would have been open. And then on the second one, um, you know they were in two deep safeties. The Cowboys went empty. Um they had three wide receivers to the left, and Hendershot you know, was one of them. And all CD had to do was take a right turn like ninety degrees. Yes, you can't go forty five behind you, it's made to go forty five.
But if that safety is there, then yes, you have to write it's automatic that you cut it to forty five degrees. And that's that's understood between wide receiving quarterback. Right. You don't need to look at me for that. He did the defensive bat dictates how I my wow period, right. And then the other thing I noticed was the ball got tipped just a little. I thought it did? It did?
I thought it did? I thought so, and then when I looked at it and I played it back, and it looked like the guy just got his fingertips on it and you can see the ball wobble, not that that was going to make a difference. He would have been better off and he hit the damn thing. So yeah, it's it's it's uh, it's quite amazing when you go back and look at things and break it down instead of reacting to what those guys say on TV. But to Olsen's credit, he broke down both of these plays perfectly.
He saw it right the tight end, knew what the tight end was. That's why he gets some of the games that he gets. Talking about Olsen, I think his his uh detail, his attention to detail is really it's up there with the best guys that's on TV. Back. Yeah, he's he broke it down and and just immediately to see it immediately, didn't need to see a replay right,
exactly what he saw what happened. Yeah, and even on on Schultz's touchdown, you know, he ran a really good role he did, and and he just cut to the right, but he cut it straight and then made the play to get into the end zone. So I know that felt good for right, right, know that felt good that he's gonna have the tough year. Yeah and so yeah, and you know, and the tight ends have done a
really good job. But when you see just one misstep and it's like, it's amazing, even in coverage, when when you watch coverage and I've noticed this, and I'm sure you noticed it when you were safety, all you gotta do is take one step the wrong way and you can't recover. It's amazing. It's basically against the good quarterback, right, just one step and you leave that spot open and there it goes. All right, you can put your head down and digging and all you want. Right, it's too late,
it's yeah. So anyway, when they talk about technique and you know, do your job, that's what this is. I mean, they've sprung a leak now, and guess what Minnesota's gonna do on Sunday? Right, And not to mention and we'll get to this next um. Justin Jefferson just happened to be the NFC offensive player on the week, Right, And I'm sitting there going somewhere, Watson going, why do you have to have a game like that this week? That
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most underrated team. And it wasn't because of their play, it's because no one's paying attention, right, no one. First of all, no one expected it, and no one's paying attention. And they're in there and I can't remember if I said this here or somewhere else, but I'm gonna say it again, and they're with all these comebacks they've had, right almost every game, it seems like they're dead, and then they come back. And I said, it's like, and this will go over most people's heads that's not at
least fifty years old. But I said, it's like those old spaghetti westerns, right when they shoot the guy and he spins and turns, and shoot him and he turns and he won't go down, right, And that's what they are. They just they don't go down, they somehow survive and you know, this last game, same thing. Let's hope that they've had enough of those, right point. Yeah, let's hope that we are the team that stops them from doing that, because you look at that and say, they can't keep
doing this the entire season. Someone's gonna come along and you know, buck the chrant. So they're they're point differential is only thirty five points. Think about how all these close shaves, you know, eight nine games now they've played nine nine games, so that's you got it. Keep it going. Wait nine times, that's four points a game, right, that's unbelievable. Yeah yeah, five yeah, boy, But you know they win.
So it uh goes back to you know what I said about Dak saying you got to make the plays that matter, right, and the Cowboys these forget numbers, right, forget numbers. Buffalo was supposed to win that game. Let's forget numbers, right. It's about the moments, right, And that's that's where we've also failed ourselves. You see. I mean, I mean we go back to I'm still mad about the San Francisco game with the referee in the way,
who has the ball? I mean, give me a break. See, those moments for us have not been kind, right because we have a team, and we talked about this yesterday, I think a little bit. You gotta know how to win. Those are the moments where you know how to win. You're poised, you're ready for the opportunistic moments. We're never ready for that. Matter of fact, we create moments for other teams in that situation. And that's different because before the last two years, we were the team that did
well under pressure. Yeah, and now we we were that team that we keep second guessing ourselves where we should have called the time out there. Man, we would have called the time out there and the challenge this. We seem to be missing those moments. And that's just not from the players, that's from the coaches as well. You know, it's funny you brought up the the play from last
year looking for the referee with the ball. So it's like every time there's a hurry up and I and I see it and I see this guy come running up real fast, and I go, where are you last year? And it's like you're back there basking in the sun. What that guy? And sometimes it's the one of the other guys comes up and grabs it, didn't wait for the umpire. Well, nobody wants to be uh god, what's
the why the wide receiver's name that screwed up? Was it when he was with the Colts with the Steelers where he wanted to show off after he caught the pass for the first down his last two minutes, he wants to show off and do his stuff right center, his own center came and grabbed the ball from him and they got into an argument what it was. And
you know what, that's the other thing I've noticed. I've noticed the center going to the spot, grabbing the ball and bringing it back and and everybody's learning and he's looking around. Okay where he at hand? You the ball? Um? Yeah, there was a lot of fault uh in that in that plate. So what about what about the injuries personnel? Yeah, signed somebody, Well they did um to the practice squad. Okay, okay,
So basically it was practice squad stuff. So the wide receiver they signed and Tonio Callaway, who has had a history of knucklehead itis going all the way back to Florida, Wow, where he had been suspended multiple times for different things.
He was a fourth round draft choice of Cleveland, and he ended up getting suspended there twice, once four games as a rookie for substance testing positive for substance, and then his second year he had a ten game suspension that one't didn't say, but I'm assuming right because it was a second offense. Uh. And then they let him go and he got picked up. Um, I don't know why, I'm guessing I wrote all this down. Uh. And then he got picked up by Miami and he ended up
getting suspended there. But you can't go to Miami with a substance abuse problem, right, And then Kansas City they ended up releasing him. And then Kansas City signs him to the practice squad, and then he got released injury with an injury, so he hasn't He played five games in twenty twenty and hadn't played a game yet since. So I don't know if it's a body or what
they're looking for. We'll find out. When we talked to McCarthy at three oh and, I said, yeah, I did say he went to Kansas City and then they released him off longup, just line up, but you know what, and I'm not I'm not defending Toilbert. You can but you don't have a blue line on the field, right. And after he scooted his foot back like a couple of inches, a couple of inches, he was right on. It was like right on the line, right, but his
head was still his head was a line right. But they don't call offside, they really well Belichick had it called in the Super Bowl right against the Rams, if I'm not mistaken, But yeah, that's I mean, that was one of those things where if he was a foothold, I mean a yard over, I could see it it was and it had nothing to do with the play. That was the worst thing. I mean, come on, man, I mean you know what. I was a wide receiver, you know, but that was in high school, and trust me,
I would not be offsides. I would just look at the yard line there and I mean, come on, it's right there. I always thought it was silly that the wide receivers had to check with the referee anyway, don't you know what the line is. That's just me make sure, well the referee is least looking straight. I mean, if I'm lining up on the wide receiver, I don't have
to check with the let's see if I'm offside. I'll tell you what after that, and I had the wrong play when I was watching what it was after there was no one close to the line of scrimmage and I'm going, oh, they're gonna call him for not enough guys on the line of scrimmage, right, and it was like, that's all far back everyone. Yeah, they gave the other guy a half yard head start on covering him. But yeah, so anyway they did that. Uh, they signed brock Hoffman
to the practice squad. He's a center, and I'm thinking, so what they've been doing to bring in a backup center has been the Shepley, but they've already elevated him twice. So unless you're gonna put him on the fifty three, you need another center that probably you can elevate if the guy's good enough. Although he not have a job, and everybody has fifty three guys on their roster and usually all sixteen on their practice squad and he didn't have a job, so anyway he's the center. And then
they on the practice squad tack McKinley. I think we've probably heard his name before. Um, I'm thinking dan Quinn had him and wouldn't know exactly who he is, and what high school he he's a linebacker slash. He's basically a pass rusher. Yeah, it's tack with two k's by the way, Oh okay, two k So anyway, Uh, they've they've they've signed him to the practice squad, uh to make room uh to a foy Uh, the offensive lineman they released off the practice squad. And then Alec Lindstrom
has gone to practice squad injured. So the Vikings also, but they signed some guys too, right at that part, I'm not aware, you know what. No, that was Philadelphia. Remember mc tac McKinley actually worked out with the Cowboys like it was Pard. Yes, yes, that's what I'm correctly. Yeah, And they didn't they did not sign him at that time. No. I wonder I didn't look up to see where he had been or if he's been somewhere or just sitting at home waiting for something. But I think he's just
been sitting. He's kind of a pass rusher, you know. They don't need pass rushers. They need somebody to set the edge against the run, you know, And I think that's you know everybody. I am so curious. I wish I could have been in the room to hear while they're not to hear, just to see whether adjustments are gonna be made, right, because you're not signing anybody else to play, right, you got what you got. We're not signing another player, another defensive linement or whatever to stop
the run. What are we gonna do? I want to know what adjustments because if I recalled and I don't know who the defensive defensive coordinator was for the Cowboys under Jimmy was Wanstead, but Butch and Butch Davis, I would wonder what kind of adjustments Butch Davis would make in this situation. As well as only starting back in
my day. Well, I saw a couple plays where the defensive end was acting like he was rushing the quarterback and here comes Aaron Jones running right by him like he never saw him, and he was still pushing right and it's like, well, you got to play the run on the way of the quarterback. Well, at that point of the game, especially in run run down, what you
mean that's when he cut backside? Yeah, and now that no excuses, but that at that point of the game maybe well, already everything was obviated off the whales and McKinley was signed by Tennessee on September sixteenth to the practice squad, and then the Rams plucked him off their practice quad on September twenty first, and then the Rams released him on October eighteen, so they had to keep
him for three weeks and then released ye, so we'll see. Yeah, but those defensive ends, specially anybody playing on that right side of the defense, has to be aware that that you know that pitch is coming, but now and then once again, do as we made the adjustment. We opened ourselves up to the counter play, which is the runs up the middle. They cut back, they had they actually had a pitch, Aaron Rodgers would pitch it, but Jones came right back right to where Aaron Rodgers was standing,
so he came back against the grain. That was a pretty good play and it worked every time. And that's the counter right to all of the outside plays where we lost content. And on one of those, the guy that was playing the slot on defense, Um, he was going to make the play and the receiver just clocks him from behind. Yeah, I thought you were supposed to do that. Yeah, now you're supposed to be illegal. No, you can't do I don't care where you're only he's
gonna the tackle and he just pushed them down. And it's like I asked Dan Quinn about it, and he said, yeah, I saw that, just like yeah, yeah, yeah, I saw. Don't want to make too many excuses, yeah, referees, because then you end up with a Connor Williams situation. McKinley played one game for the Rams this year verse the Dallas Cowboys. Oh did he he did? He got assistant tackle, So an assist. That's it? All right? Well, thanks for that assist from Chris Beam and to assist him. I'm
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She was really good. It was in Memphis, Tennessee. The second time she was on her own in Jackson, Mississippi, and it was it wasn't quite there. You are a Southern dude, don't you well. I've been in the South quite a bit, almost your whole life, in South Carolina, Jackson, Mississippi, and then Dallas, Texas, which I never thought was in the South. Until I got here Southwest. Well, yeah, the Southerners don't call us I know, yeah, they got this
thing going on. But there were some Southern philosophies I don't need to tell you. Yeah, And we won't even get started on South Carolina back in nineteen seventy five, by the way, Oh wow, that's tough. Three. It was four years so four years removed from and I had a friend there that he went to not only they hadn't integrated the schools yet, but he went to the boys school and they had girls school. And I said, so did they have that for the other folks in town?
Oh no, they could all go to school aget. So anyway, that was my introduction to South Carolina. How many years ago? Almost fifty years ago? All right, So I wanted to make sure we talked about this because it was an unusual, uncommon performance by Luke Gifford Special teams. Yes, five tackles. Yes, I'm glad we talked about yeah, because I remember bringing
it up. I yelled it out before one of my shows, after one of my shows, And do you think I'm wondering, do you think that that qualifies him for a shot? That playing linebacker well, I was hoping in regular downs and I asked him, I said, so, and you had a recovered fumble, Yes he did. I said, how do you not get name NFC Special Teams Player of the week. And he goes, oh, the kicker from Washington had a really good game. He made a bunch of field goals.
I guess in that winner those were yah. Yes, So so anyway, he goes, yeah, I think I lost out. He goes, of all days, right, I don't know, so I said, how, I said, and they won and they right? I said, this obviously had to be the most you've ever had. He goes, yeah, my rookie year. He goes, I think it was the Giants game. I had three and he goes, I've never you know, come close to
that or more. And I said five. And I said, that's got to be like a team, right, And they weren't uh you know, chasing the guy down right, And no, he made flopping in exactly Yeah. Now he made serious uh stops right that really kind of saved it from going extra yards. And just the hustle that he had going for the fumble. I thought he made another play he did or he missed? He said he missed one that he should have had said, I should have had and you know that's his mentality. I have five, I
should have had six. Right. Uh. I wonder if they tracked those special teams tackles, like if I went and looked at Bill Bates game by game, although that's a lot of years they go game by game, but to see if he's ever had or Kenny Gant, the guys that were really good special teams players, Uh, for the Cowboys. But yeah, and even C. J. Goodwin is has led the team and special teams tackles behind he ever had five,
both of those guys together, Yeah, they come. When they come together on special teams, something's good is gonna happen. So Fossil keeps a chart and gives them points throughout the year for different things. Right, and he said, normally what you're trying to hit is five hundred points and he goes, So we said, so how many points you think he got Gifford guid in that game? And he goes probably a hundred. It was like, that's how good
the performance was. But to go back to your point, give him a chance at linebacker many see, you know, if he's just one of those guys. Okay, so speaking of NFC players of the week, guess who was the offensive NFC player of the week. Jefferson? Justin Jefferson and the Cowboys gonna contend with him when you've seen him play. What makes him so difficult to be able to contain? First of all, his length. His length is amazing, as you saw with the one handed catch and not just kiss,
but it was a one handed takeaway. You're right, you know he took it away from the dB A. His vertical is up there. Yeah, so you're dealing with an extremely athletic kid, and just because he's long and lanky, there's routes are not He's very quick footed, he has much control of his body. He's basically a contortionist when the ball goes up in the air. So he's going to challenge you for those fifty fifty balls, which is always tough for a defensive Backles used to doing the same.
When the ball is in the air, you expect for Dicks to come down with it. Yeah, if it's up to heat and the wide receiver, this is going to be an issue to where you're gonna have to contend with the wide receiver. Before you go up for the ball. When you when you have a player like that, you cannot give him room or space to gather and go up for the ball. So you gotta get into his body. You gotta get into his body, and you have to be quicker than he is. Digs is quicker and faster
than he is. Uh. Just Jefferson has the long legs and he has the balance. But you need to be into his into his body, and you need to have leverage on him at all times. You know what I need to do is go back and look and see how they dealt with him last year because they helped Minnesota the seventeen points. Yeah, he's different, he's a different player. No, he's a different player. So here's what Nate said. Nate made a good point about Michael Irvin and going against
double teams. Jefferson didn't know how to go against double teams last year. Now he knows. You know, you you you know. It's like anything else. You gotta work one guy. You can't work double team two guys. You gotta work one guy. And they he learned that, uh this year, and that was something that Michael Irvin, all the good receivers Cooper. Cooper cups. He does that. He works against two receivers, two dvs all the time, so he has
learned to do that. But when it comes down to it, if you have a defensive back that doesn't need a double team, and you guys are just gonna say, this is gonna be our matchup of the game, I think Dix can handle this guy. So I was going to ask you that, so say, uh, Anthony Brown said he was still in concussion protocol and he said he would probably be in it till Friday and then they'll see if he's able to play or not. Say he's not able to play? Did you just put Diggs? Would you
just put Digs on Justin Jefferson? Take your chances. I don't care if if Brown was playing. I would still do that on Justin Jefferson. But the problem you have is Stale Right, did I say his name or yeah? Yeeldeeling? Is that's an all pro? You know we're looking at the Jefferson over here? Feeling? Is a Cooper Cup feeling is is you know, he's that that slot guy that
you have to contend with. Right, So the matchups to me, I still put Jefferson Diggs on Jefferson, but I still know I have I have feeling to contend with, and not just some of the times. He is a what seventy eighty reception receiver right Pro Bowl, All Pro, So you have to deal with this as well. That's why there they've only lost one game, because these are people that you have to contend with, not to mention all the other talent they have in the backfield. So I
was talking with Jordan Lewis. That was the first time i'd seen him in the locker room on his little scooter, who He's got a cast on his foot fractured, and he said he had to wear that four weeks and they were going to put another cast and then they have to have surgery again to take the pins out. So it's like it's like that you're you're, you're, you're out for the season. Yeah, and he goes, well, if they make a deep run in the play, that's like, I don't he's okay. So I asked him, I said, so,
what makes uh Jefferson so good? I said, you've covered him. He goes out, Yeah, we covered him last year. He said, it's his suddenness. He comes out of his breaks so fast. Uh, I mean off his takeoff. And then he said he comes out of the breaks in and out so fast. Uh. He said he can do it all, and he goes on top of it. And I thought, this is very good. He said, he's a very vicious competitor. You can see it. So got a little Michael Irvy. You can see it.
You can see it. And so you know, when when the ball's in the air for him, it's mine, it's mine. I mean he saw, he showed it. I mean, you don't give up one thing. Night. We saw two of the best catches you might see in in that entire decade in one game, right, you know, between digs and and uh and Jefferson. And by the way, I didn't bring it with Oh no I did. So he's fourth in the NFL in receptions and he's second in yards. He is averaging um fifteen point four yards a catch.
Now that guy's a load. He Uh just broke Randy Moss record for consecutive one games. Oh is that what it was? Yes? Okay, yes, yes, I believe he's he's so what are we at nine? They've got nine games and he's had one thousand and sixty yards receiving already, it's got a half a season almost to play. I mean, he can he get to two thousand? Hey, but you know, so we could sit here and talk all about stopping the run. But you better take care of that, you know. Hey,
Hey Bradley, Oh we should he's going. I guess we can always do that. Do something with Douglas. But when you when you look at a player like that, that's it's football, man. So who's our play with it? It's Biggs? Right? Can you have on him? I got him coach right, put me in coaching ready to go. All I could. All I can do is I've gone to or either watched on TV or been there when he was playing at LSU. And all I can in my back of my mind, all I can hear is that announcer at
LSU going touchdown, just Jefferson. That boy, he wore that line out so many times at LSU. So he was pretty good. So, uh, I think we survived another one without Bill right, we didn't get that high school for Antonio Kellaway, but I bet he'll text it is yet. I told him if he can't make it on Friday, we're doing a phone hookup so he can make his pick to click right. That's all we need. Yeah, well, we're bringing in at the end of the show, or
we're gonna send a special doctor over. Callaways from Booker T. Washington and I saw that from Miami Florida. From Miami Florida. All right, Well, we survived on another shot here without William, but hopefully he's getting better. And we'll join us here later in the week for Everson Mickey and we will talk at you again tomorrow here on Mick Shots Go Cowboys. This has been a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club.
