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So much has taken place since the last show, so huge discussions on Mike McCarthy’s season wrap up presser, the coaching changes and perspective on the breaking news of Kellen Moore going to the Chargers as their offensive coordinator after being let go by the Cowboys Sunday night. Then the conference championship games and how the Cowboys matched up with both Philly and San Francisco.

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The following. Here's a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club Cowboys. This is nick shot screening live on Dallas Cowboys dot Com and the official Dallas Cowboys at now. Here are Bill Jones, Everson Walls, and Nicky Spagnola. Well here, it is a Monday, not a high noon. We are an hour early. It's eleven am on a Monday, and I'm just happy my key worked to get in the building. This is just any other Monday, right now? You Monday Monday? In that the

Beatles in that the in that the Beatles's beatles. That's just another Were you worried that there there are other keys have been taken away? There's a lot of other keys have been taken away. When since we last convened last Tuesday, has there been anything that's happened around here? I think there were eight keys that were taking He's taken away? Crazy, is it? That's right? Yeez? I was. I was looking looking for my keys. Ever got a kid, right? Yeah?

I wondered if I was gonna be able to have to knock away I did get in, how can I get in? I had great confidence in myself. I hadn't done anything wrong. Well, there's probably some of those that get the keys taken away that I do exactly all right. And we have two Super Bowl teams that have been determined now and so sixty years after one team left the city of Dallas, they're going back to the Super Bowl.

That would be the Dallas Texans. Yes, and it's a routine for these guys, that's right, it's on the team for him. Well, it's three out of the last four years now that the Kansas City Chiefs had made it and they're playing another team from the NFC East. And what was the biggest play of the weekend? Each time a quarterback got hit was knocked out of the game. Yeah, it's the biggest play of the week. The biggest player of the week, The biggest player of the weekend is

brock Party getting hurt. I think took all the drama out of that. Again, we found out the teams with the best offensive line when very good, couldn't protect a quarterback. Neither one of the losers San Francisco. How did that happen? They were they couldn't protect anybody. Bring in the next guy and he gets a concussion. Well, I mean you could see how well our defense played against him that they were going to have some problems. I don't care if Pardy would have finished the game right, I think

he would have had major issues with him. And when you look at the difference in the ball game, it all had to do with what we did versus what Jalen Hosts did not do. And let's turn over the ball, right, And once you do that and you play solid, you played to your defense, and that defense handled their offense just the way I would defense was handling their offense. So I knew they were going to have a problem. I think Perdy was going to come back down the earth.

That's why we all picked Philadelphia. That's right. Think about the Dallas San Francisco game and really, as you said, the turnovers were huge, and so you're playing from behind rather than from ahead, which is what Philadelphia has been able to do all season. But they in the second half of that game, San Francisco was able to mount a ninety one yard touchdown drive and it was a thirty yard completion to bobbling completion to a reception by a tight end who was on the backside of the play.

Wasn't one of the primary targets on the play. He had checked down and he had been basically he was he was guarded by those goals and exactly and Gallas Jason kittled down the field and that put him in position into four down territory you know, at midfield, and they were able to uh And even with that, as we talked about last week, Kittle made the smart play getting into the grill of Donovan Wilson on a third and eight play that negated a sack that would have

been a field goal attempt of about forty yards for San Francisco, and said, they get a first down at the ten yard line and they get the touchdown, which was the difference of the game. They went by a touchdown. Why does that stuff happen to the Cowboys? Why? Because with suckers, that's why. Why why he got he got suckered. Why didn't the Cowboys have a catch that wasn't a

catch and didn't get challenged? To me, that was the play of how young when I see a white and I don't think the white receiver they're smart enough to fake it out, like when he gets up and say like, hey, let's go up. Have they had a signal right, it was something yeah, yeah, we gotta snap it. That should tell him even if I haven't seen it's okay, it's a timeout being on time. It's not like it's going to be a game winning drive. And I don't have it,

and it's like, challenge it. I mean, when he gets up with that sense of urgence, yes, and he does something like this and everybody's running to the line of scrimmages, I should tell you something. Challenge it. Oh gosh. And then you know, and his you know, his explanation was, well, I never got to see it. Well, they're not gonna show you that the really right. And TV didn't help their guys in the in the box because they didn't show the replay that showed it that the ball came

out until after the next play. So he was a little bit hamstrung. But still just go ahead and challenge it. It's such a big play early in the game. I think Andy Reid challenged it, right, they did the same kind of situation and he won or no, did he lose. I can't. I don't remember that. I just remember he challenged it in the San Francisco game. I what disappointed me was how well, I saw that's Philly offensive line

handle the San Francisco defense, right. I mean, these guys have been dominating all year long, and they just just wore them down. As time went on, you could just see them getting weaker and weaker. And of course the turnovers didn't help at all in regards to San Francisco, but their defense would usually answer regardless. They couldn't answer every bell this time. Too many quarterbacks going down, too many turnovers, and it wasn't It didn't seem like they

were necessarily physically being handled. I think their spirit left after, like, okay, another fumble of the twelve and it's right, the fumble at the end of the first half. I mean it's a fourteen seven game and San Francisco is in shotgun. They've a minute, minute and half left. Whatever it was they're thinking, Okay with even with Josh Johnson, who's changed teams thirteen times in his career and was on the denverfield, doesn't know how to take a snap, but he was

on the Denver practice squad last month. Okay, he hadn't been with you all year, and he's going to against the pass rush like that is going to engineer a last minute drive to get you in field goal range. Just go to the house, Okay, just get to the house. Now, it was simply a shotgun snap that he fumbles. Okay, but that was huge. I mean, if if they get to the house at halftime down fourteen seven, okay, even

without a quarterback, it's still you're one score game. But but and even though he fumbled it because it was right to him, he had the ball until his offensive lineman stepped on offensive lineman stepped on it, he still seemed to be hesitant. I didn't see him go with aggression. It was as if he was ashamed of to have the ball, you know what I'm saying. But he's like, you gotta bring it in, bro. I mean, he wasn't

bringing it in. He was kind of like, Okay, I got it, guy, No, you have to bring that in. I mean, this is football. This is not like you're kicking him down a water balloon. But you know that. But to take Bill's point, at that point it was fourteen to seven, you just go in halftime, right this guy, And why are we being aggressive here? And then you know, and I think I don't remember if Olsen said or

not he goes, well, we're gonna find out. If they get that first first down, then they're probably gonna go right, because they took over at like the I want to say the twelve or something fourteen and then they got the first down right, and then and it's like, okay,

here we go. What Josh Johnson, who by the way, came into the league at age twenty three in two thousand and nine, and this was his fortieth game of that he's gotten in gotten into in the NFL, won an eight record as a starting quarterback in his thirteen years. And you know where his career was headed before yesterday, straight into the coach's office. That's where it was headed. He had a clipboard has already been put in his

hand more than a football. In his entire career, he's had a clipboard probably in his hand more than these had a football in his hand. So ten years in the league, right, thirteen teams? Come on, man, Come on, that means he's friend with San Francisco three times? Three times? Yeah, come on? That just waiting for him to just say, hey, when you when do you need another integram coach? But the point is your approach with playing Everson Walls at quarterback.

It would be the sixty three year old Everson Walls at quarterback. You're not going to approach the game the same as you would, right, obviously not. I can see it wasn't. He did not. It's just, oh man, he was. I didn't know he had been in the league that long. I knew, I knew the name when I saw the number of teams that he had been with. You know, I'll take it. I'll look at it this way. If I've been with this many teams, I'm not gonna be scared. I mean, I'm gonna be out there ready the ball

because hell, I'm older than almost everybody out there. Okay, why be afraid? All right, obviously we buried the lead story. Yes I know, and get back to where we So let's get back to the point of emphasis that we should have here, and that is to change us on the coaching staff. We'll get back to the games too,

because they're fun to talk about. But it finally comes down officially on Sunday night that Kellen Moore as mutually agreed with the team the way that they it was worded to part ways and Doug nuss Meyer as well, which makes now eight assistant coaches who have either not had their contracts renewed or mutually agreed to part ways. So mutually meaning he had a year left on his contract, right, And it's like, okay, so I get paid for that year, and okay, fine, I'll go see if I can find

another job that's mutual. And there's a lot of offensive coordinator openings around the league. It's gonna have no problem finding a job. Yeah. The whole thing to me started to be somewhat puzzling. And I heard Mike McCarthy during his press conference on Thursday. Twice in the press conference, the word came out of his mouth economics, and I'm

going economics. There's no salary cap on a coaching staff, right, And it sort of dawned on me that when that happened, that maybe somebody decided that we got too many coaches twenty nine. Okay, I don't know what the norm is, but it sounds like a lot of coaches. All I know is I went back and looked in nineteen sixty six, when the Cowboys went to the first NFL Championship game, it was Tom Landry and five assistants. In nineteen seventy one when they won the Super Bowl for the first time.

It was time Landry and eight assistants twenty nine and that included quality control analytics guys, you know, and some positions had some assistant coaches. At a position had an assistant to the assistant right, And so I don't know if somebody decided it was too many or what. Well, if you look at the wiches outside, I mean I would imagine it grows every year. If you look at the team pictures, well I did go do that, and you know what, but back in the sixties, they didn't

have the assistance in the picture. It was just the players. Give you an idea how many coaches there are. This is my flip card from the preseason, which I keep in my briefcase. Okay, on the backside of it is all the information on all the assistant coaches on the team. It fills and took coaster board basically, and I was about to go through it and mark out the ones who are no longer here. I'm gonna have to do this whole board again for the preseason games this year.

You will have more room on that board, that's right. Did you did you include the consultant on there also, which which consultant? How many consultants do they have? Brian Schottenheimer, Yeah, Brian Schotenheimer was not He didn't make your board. They did not make it at that time. It was of Jacksonville games when he made my board because he was

the offensive coordinator with Jacksonville last year. So yeah, so twenty nine and I had a feeling when those guys on offense were let go Pete And if you think about it, the three main guys that were let go, like position coaches, Philbin, Pete and Edwards, they've been in the league the longest, I think twenty five, twenty four, and nineteen years, So it was almost like, I don't know if they were trying to get younger or if they were trying to get new voices in the room.

It brought me back to nineteen ninety seven when Switzer got fired and all the assistants are most the majority of them went along with him, and this hadn't even happened yet. And I was walking down the hallway at the Ranch and I ran into Ernie Sampeazy after they lost the final six games of the season, and he just looked at me and he goes, well, we're all out of here, and I go, what do you mean?

He goes, well, you know, sometimes they quit listening to you, and you got to get a new voice in there. And he goes, and I got a feeling they quit listening to us. And he goes, so we're gone. And sure enough, like a day or two later, Switzer got fired and everybody else got fired, and you know, and Ernie was a really good coach, but they decided a new voice. So I don't know if that was part of it. I got a few guys got a theory,

but that's my theory that definitely entered my mind. You look at the ages of the play of the coaches that were let go. Rob Davis fifty four years old now, Kellen Moore is only thirty four. Doug nos Meyer's fifty two. Skip Pete turns fifty nine today. As a matter of Oh, happy birthday either fifty nine or sixty today January Today's day January thirty, uh, twenty eight, twenty nine, thirty Today's birthday, Happy birthday, Skip Pete. Yeah, Joe Philbin sixty one. Uh,

let's see see Edward. George Edwards is fifty five. He turned just turned fifty five, but I want to say he was. He was in the league the longer I want to say he was. He's twenty five years twenty five years, was twenty four, and Philbin was nineteen. Leon Let twelve years with the Cowboys, fifty four years old, assistant to the assistant and Rob Davis was basically Mike's kind of right hand man, so he wasn't really coaching anything. So I think Kyle Valero was a quality nine years here.

I think for Kyle the linebacker coach, what was his name, the linebacker coach, George George, senior defensive assistant linebacker. Now that one somewhat surprised me from the production of the linebackers and how the defense played. So now dan Quinn was under contract with dan Quinn was interviewing for head coaching jobs and in fact had a second interview with Arizona. And then that's when after that interview is when he announced he's coming back. So they sweetened the pot for

dan Quinn. And you know what, got how they afford getting rid of all that into it at economics economic? Or did did they have to? Because again, if you're going into your second go around as a head coach, don't you want to go into a good situation, not a bad situation. And I know those five were bad situations because of the quarterback. Do you want to coach Michael Parsons or Kyler Murray? Yeah, that's the way I look at it on the Arizona job or Russell Wilson. Yeah,

And I don't have any first round picks Indianapolis who whoever? Yeah, Sam Ellinger or whoever? At quarterback? I mean, just look at the coaches and the quarterbacks in those those five teams, right, there's a reason why they didn't win. And know what they were doing at quarterback? Houston? What are you doing at quarterback? So where they're getting one of the two? Yeah? Yeah? But but yeah are they are they really good? I mean are they you know? Get sink your teeth into

them now. I think the kid from Alabama is pretty dark and good. Um, but still, it's an unknown. It's not a sure thing. You never know what the guy above you is going to do in the draft. They could trade it and say no, I want three picks, not one. So but yeah, if I'm if I'm Quinn, I'd have been choosy because I don't want to fail. You fail the second time. He's already been there once, so it's not like it's something new for him. You can dangle that carry in front of again and he's like, Okay,

I've seen this before. I'm gonna go in here, you know, a little more cautious. Yeah, yeah, and I'm gonna If I'm gonna take one, it's got to be a really good situation, which those situations don't occur. Right, If it's a really good situation. All right, let's dive in when we come back, because we're already twenty minutes in. Let's dive into who the new play caller is for this offense when we come back on mix shots in just a moment. The Medal of Honor is our country's highest

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the off season. And we are twenty two minutes into this thing, and we've talked about the movement on the offensive, the coaching staff in general, and as far as the offensive play caller goes. Kellen Moore, of course, has officially been let go. And your new play caller, Mickey Spagnola, who would you like it to be? I said all along.

If they made this change, then Mike McCarthy needs to be the offensive coordinator, and I don't know that he'll have that title, but if he's calling plays, it might as well be Mike McCarthy the offensive coordinator. I would imagine they hire somebody to help out with the day to day work practice schedule, you know, setting up stuff. And who knows now that they let or are not

renewing dougman nuss Meyer's contract as the quarterback coach. Maybe whoever becomes that guy taking care of Mike day to day is also a quarterback coach. And maybe you hire a veteran assistant who as can be on the sideline too or up in the booth as a game manager type too, because if you're if your head coach is also the play caller, there are things during the course of a game he might have to be involved in where he can't you need you. He might need some

assistance managing the game. Yes, I always thought that there were times when mccauthy was calling the place. I'm wrong about that. Now. There was a moment during the season where he's like, look, I don't think he was called on the way in heavily on this one this week. And I and I always told people when they you know, they don't want to blame Kellen for everything, and it's like he's not an independent contractor, right, Mike's got to

say yes during the week, Yes he does. And you know there's a reason why he's got a headset on and a sheet in his hand. Yes, that's the plays that they decided, right. And I'm sure there were times it's like, oh you know, let me. I mean, you know that happened with Jason Garrett when he was the head coach. Um. You know, I know for a fact that he vetoed plays and it's not no, we don't

want to do that, right right, Um? So yeah, um, but I thought if they were gonna make a change, and I'm the head coach, and this is what my expertise is. If I'm gonna go down, I'm gonna go down on my own right because of my offer, you know.

And the hard thing to say is to figure out is nine games in a row, nine games in a row, they averaged thirty six points a game with that guy as the coordinator, right, And I understand what happened in the playoff game with San Francisco the last two San Francisco right off, Yeah, what they score seventeen and twelve, so twenty that's twenty nine. Two is fourteen and a

half again. And then when you look at yesterday's just the first drive by the Eagles, right, the first play I saw, I think it was his name, Lance Johnson, the offensive lineman fore Lane Johnson. I saw them just blowing forty niners off the ball. He and Kelsey were dominating yesterday. I have the first drive, I saw nothing but holes to run through, and I'm thinking to myself, where were those man? I mean they handled a forty

nine their defense. That was the first in everything. But here comes the offense also, that is first in everything, and in this particular case, offense one out. I mean they came out double team in the right. The blocking scheme was amazing. All you saw was daylight for the Philadelphia running backs on that first drive. I took some

pictures of it because it was just that glaring. And see that to me, let you know that there's got to be room for improvement for the Cowboys, right, and either the offensive line or how you maybe ski against that defense, right, because guys that dominated for them against the Cowboys did not dominate against Philadelphia, did not, but the Eagles offensive line stepped up and played, you know, and and then on the other side, think about it,

Phillis defense. It's like, and I know what happened, right, you're on the third quarterback. The Cowboys held him. There's no fourth quarterback, and then the third guy's got to come in and he can't throw. Okay, you're done, right, But you know the Cowboys, without those turnovers, they would have held him to thirteen points. Debo, debo did nothing in that No one did anything except for Kittle. And and if you look at what they did against the Cowboys,

he did very little. McCaffrey did very little. They used those turnovers to get six points. If you don't get those turnovers and give them just six points. And then the plays that Bill pointed out on the touchdown drive, you know, you held them till six. By that time, they were already depleted, you know, the our defense by that time, yeah, we were already you know, we were just like San Francisco's defense ended up being they were a little bit, you know, just tired. The spirit was

out of them at that time. And you know, after a while, they lay on you long enough and you keep putting them in position. Your offense keeps putting their offense in position to score. That's deflating for a defense. I don't care how good you are. Well, we saw that San Francisco did the same thing. Their defense was deflated as well, and they played like it. And San Francisco's offense was able to be two dimensional against Dallas.

They had the lead in the game, just like what the formula for success for Philadelphia all season long, they've been playing from ahead. I mean, you look back at the Cowboys back in twenty sixteen, Dak and Zeke's first year in the league, and invariably the Cowboys would start the game with a touchdown drive. They go seventy five yards every single game for a touchdown. So you're playing from ahead seven. Start to think about the Dallas San

Francisco playoff game. We talked going into that game how inexperienced the interior offensive line for San Francisco was. They're starting a guy, Jake Brendle out of Plaino East High School. He's been a journeyman back up his entire career and he came in this year started for Alex Mack, a perennial pro Bowler who retired, and they've got two offensive guards who are first year starters, three guys in the

interior offensive line. So it's a little wonder that Philadelphia dominated the interior of their offense of line when they were having to be one dimension because the earlier the game against San Francisco, you remember osa first play of

the games breaking through to get a sack. Yeah, they were, they were, they were, they want five exactly, But the way that game played out because of the turnovers that the Cowboys had in the first half of that game, you're playing from behind, and San Francisco was able to maintain maintain control of the game, don't turn the ball over, and they could use the run to set up the pass basically. So the other thing that occurred to me is, um, San Francisco during their winning streak. So what was at

eleventh straight going into the Cowboys game. The fewest points they scored during that street going into the Cowboys game was thirteen. The Saints lost to him thirteen to nothing. Cowboys held in the nineteen points. You know, you had a chance to win. And then the other thing, if you look at Philadelphia talking about their defense, Yeah, okay, Cowboys put forty on them, and that had nothing to do with Jalen Hurts not playing right. They put forty on them. That was the most they'd given up all

year long. So when everybody says, well, how do the Cowboys matchup with Philadelphia, well, darn well right the game they lost, it was twenty seventeen, what going in in the fourth quarter, and they gave up that drive and made it twenty seventeen with your backup quarterback, by the way, So they played them, They played their pants off. You would have loved to see the third time around, and

they came up seven points shorter. When when you look at this Cowboys team and you look at the playoff game against the forty nine ers, that was the game that could have been won by any either team. And that's just how how tight that game was. Right, and of course the turnovers made the difference in the ball game. But you see how we match up. We match up extremely well against any team in the NFL period. And that's what I was thinking on the way over here.

We put for the on these guys. I mean we put for the on them. Forget what they did to our defense. We put our offense put forty on this defense that's supposed to be so good, and it wasn't like their offense put them in any bad positions any more unusual positions and bad positions than our offense put our defense in and we still handle them. We handled them offensively extremely well. So I'm you know, when you start making changes. I remember Tom Ladig making changes back

in eighty three. He said, we're always we're right there. All we gotta do is just get over the hump. Well, the changes he made set us back bigger, hump bigger, and we never got back to where we were. So I hope they're very strategic and how they're handling this, this coaching departure. But getting back to Kelly Moore his position of strength now, right, do you are you feeling bad about yourself because you don't have a job and

you can go get all these these opportunities now? Or don't you think you're stronger if you're uh, you know, having negotiations while you have you have a job, that's right? I mean he is interviewing for the Carolina Panthers head

coaching job last Tuesday wednesdaycond interview. No, he hadn't been released yet, from the Cowboys, okay, And they reports out of Carolina were that they were blown away by his interview and he made it a ball game all the way down to the wire because Carolina wanted to hire a Frank Wright. But he gave Carolina pause that, well,

maybe we should hire this guy instead. All right, he comes back to Dallas, has a meeting with Mike McCarthy, and now he's without a job, and he's not as you say he's he's not negotiating with other teams from a position of strengthens us. Got an interview with the Chargers. Try and the Chargers yeah wow, offenseive coordinator shop offensive coordinator. Yeah, yeah, sorry, yeah, somebody somebody tweeted out. I thought it was it was very fitting. It said, uh, Kellen morro will be the

next offensive coordinator for the University of Alabama. Well they're looking too, right, they are. But I wouldn't want to go down to college from as long as I'm not the head coach. Bill O'Brien did it. Bill O'Brien did it, and he was in the last couple of years has been the OC for Alabama after Sark took the All right, Sark did n't bring Sar Okay, Sark did it. Yeah, it's good, Bill o'brior. And now he's what happened with Sark?

What that was thought? Okay, he was he was well, Kyle Shanahan got if I'm not mistaken on this, wouldn't Sark with the Falcons? And then he goes to Atlanta to Alabama? Right, and now he's the head coach University of Texas. Okay, So there are so many coaches. I would love to get a count on the number of coaches who have gone to Nick Saban and Ben either a consultant or a coordinator on their staff at Alabama for a year just to revive their career. It's like

a rehab center in Tuscaloosa, Alabama, Nick Saban and Bill Belichick. Uh, they've got a feed meal going well, getting Kivin do it too? Yeah? Sure? Right Lane Kiffin, Lane Kiffin after he got fired and he went to Alabama and then he gets hired at Oldness. He's all Belichick and and Saban tentacles, Jason all over the place. And Garrett after his playing career, I mean it was his first coaching job was with the Dolphins under under Nick Saban and then he got the hey wound up going to Dallas

and began the head coach of the Dallas Council. Maybe maybe McCarthy and and uh calla Moore have this wink wink, Hey, I'm gonna let you go. You can well think about it though. On Kellen Moore, he really should should look into that Alabama job because it would it would open up avenues for college opportunities and he would still have the NFL opportunity. He's just spend a year there with Saban and you know they I don't know who they got coming back at quarterbacks and not and not just

that can also kill your career. Yeah right, but his other plus is look at what he did for DAK So if you need them guide, it's your coordinator, but can develop a quarterback. Right, he did it, right, he did it. Now he goes to Los Angeles and it's the Chargers, O see, and he gets Justin Herbert over the hump. Yeah, then he's going to get a head coaching job really quick. So anyway, all right, we got it very very interesting, and we got a break, another break to take, and we got more mix shots in

just a moment that was a lot. We paid how much for those lessons? She's doing great? Oh yeah, totally. Can you pass me a Pepsi zero sugar? Great job, honey, Oh oh look at that. That's not the end, No way. Now it's time for the encore. You know what, You're right? Five times not enough times for everyone who traded in rock concerts for their kids recitals. You've compromised enough. Pepsi zero sugar. That's what I like. Nobody protects you from

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You're sitting on your couch and taking notes. Every once in a while, i'd write something downe okay, Well, you pick from whichever legal pad you want to pick, your Cowboy legal pad or your Championship Sunday legal pad, and set the agenda for this segment, our last segment this week. I was doing this. Look, I was doing the sauce for a memory, and I had this down Edwards twenty fifth year in the NFL Pete twenty fourth film in nineteen. I will start worry about See that proves my point.

That's that's why you write it down. I remember my little flip cards for preseason games. If I write it down, I remember it. Yeah. There you go. Absolutely so he can't remember what he's got on his legal pad though you get there. He's got I gotta, I gotta gotta go through it. Now. My question is do you want to talk cowboys? You want to talk championship games. We didn't settle who's taken who spots, but I think there's a possibility some promotions from within. Um what what? What

do you think about my idea about um? Brian Schottenheimer didn't he he was a offensive course, sure, right, and I think he was. Maybe that's how world did they do quarterback? Wow, I didn't check that out. You're talking. He was never a head coach, was he? No? But his dad was. His dad was of pretty darn good and Mike knew him, right. Yeah, going back to when well, Mike was on Schottenheimer's staffa City in the nineties, Brian was around a kid at that point. I think he

talked about it at one point. All right, So you want to know the coaching resume of one Brian Schottenheimer, who is forty nine years old, so he's just ten years younger than Mike McCarthy starting back in nineteen ninety seven the Rams, an assistant with the Rams Kansas City and ninety eight an assistant then a Syracuse in ninety nine, USC two thousand, Washington Quarterbacks coach in O one, Chargers for four years quarterbacks coach O two through O five KA.

So that's when Brees came into the league as a right kay, when Philip Rivers came into the league, quarterbacks coach Jets O six through twenty eleven, so six years as the offensive coordinator of the Jets, three years with the Rams offensive coordinator twelve through fourteen. So I'm Sam Bradford in there, fifteen Georgia offensive coordinator and quarterbacks coach,

a one year back in college. There you go, there, get the old college now back into the NFL with the Colts quarterbacks coach in sixteen and seventeen, Seattle offensive coordinator eighteen through twenty with Russell Wilson, and then urban Meyer seventeen. That would be sixteen seventeen with the Connapolis

with Andrew Luck still playing there quarterbacks heyday. And then he goes to Seattle as the offensive coordinator for three years from eighteen through twenty, and then urban Meyer hired hired him as the passing game coordinator for Jacksonville and Trevor Lawrence's rookie season in twenty one and a coaching

analyst this year with the Cowboys. So when that staff got wiped out, he got wiped out at Jacksonville, right, So so I can't take credit for anything that Lawrence is doing, yeah, right, or blame maybe for what happened his rookie year when they threw him into the deep end. So I mean he's got a resume to you know,

he's affiliated with depending. Yeah yeah, I mean, come on, unless somebody hires him for one of those OC jobs that are open to really beat the play call, right, so that'll be And I haven't heard his name being mentioned bandied about, yea, So we're gonna banty it about now. We're getting it out there for this job. Yeah. Absolutely, I mean he's familiar with it, um, you know. And the big thing, what do you think the big thing

is for whoever is in Dak's ear. I'm not talking about necessarily during the game, but on a daily basis. What is it about that where you could see the most improvement that that could make when what you saw this year, maybe coaching standpoint, maybe emphasize and this hasn't happened before. That's why this is weird, right, emphasizing patients Maybe just slow down, I mean, trying to progress too fast. Look at the game he played against Tampa Bay in

the playoffs. I mean sometimes I just think this offensive stuff comes down to matchups and in the bottom line against San Francisco was the Cowboys were one wide receiver short short they were not if they took CD away, where's he going? You know? And Hilton helped, But the

guy hadn't played all year long. Now in spots, but he's not going to be an every down player all of a sudden, and Michael Gallup just was not the same Michael Gallup that he was the year before before he tore his acall and we didn't We didn't even use him the same either. No, if you recall before Michael Gallup got hurt, he was our only deep threat. I still have visions of Dak dropping dimes writing his right front pocket and on the sideline where they perfected

that pade route. And it wasn't always in the red zone. There were plenty of times it was out in the field, perfected that fade route. Throw yards down the field. He's on the sidelines, Dack's dropping in there. They've done that many many times, but think about did not do that

this year's situation. They were in though, with Amari Cooper, Ceedee Lamb and Michael Gallup And now all of a sudden, you started the season off with Ceedee Lamb, Noah Brown and Dennis Houston for those first couple of games, right, U, And they were banking on Jalen Tolbert being that next guy, and he never stepped into the role, or didn't get the opportunity or whatever stepped on out of the role, right yeah, and even and even then when when he got back, it was him and Noah Brown and teams

were just like and in despite all that, Ceedee Lamb goes for what one hundred and seven catches for thirteen hundred yards. I just thought in that it showed up in this and it always happens in the playoffs, right, whatever your weakness is, somehow it gets exposed will and I just think they were a wide receiver short. So how long do you think it will take for Kellen Moore finds a job? End of the week, how about the end of the hour? He already got one, Yes,

Chargers Kellen Moore expected to become the Chargers OC. What does that tell you he's going to Los Angeles? Well? Does I tell you make here that somebody thought he was pretty darn good at what he does, because that's the hell of a quarterback that he's right, he's gonna be calling plays for him as soon as he became available.

Chargers and jumped right on it. Yeah, and his history with that team, any of those coaches you know that they're Brandon Staley is the head coach, and they can't off top of my head, can't think of you know, the the offensive coordinator before it was Joe Lombardi, who is with Peyton with New Orleans for years, right, so he was there, he was the OC. Got like he got laid off. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I don't that's kind

of unfair. I mean it did a decent job. It was some of the play calling to me, I don't mean offensive play call him, but some decisions made by the head coach. Coach. Yeah yeah, that really kills the charge. I mean he for it all the time, the time down from his own fifteen yard from the frying pan into the fire. Maybe he'll give the get make the guy be a little more concernative. I guess our Alabama ideas not working. He didn't have to, he didn't have

to go to rehab that quick rehab. He rehabbed a lot of coaches. There's exactly right, that's right. That's why it's funny. Staley in the NFL has been with the Bears obviously on the defensive side of the ball the Bears for two years, then the Broncos for one year, and then was a defensive coordinator with McVeigh with the Rams in twenty If I remember, the Chargers had Fangio guy in the in they were in the playoffs, right first ground. Yeah, they had wide receiver problems. They had

guys hurt. If I remember watching Williams, I think, well, Keenan Allen to start the year was hurt, right then Mike Williams. Mike Williams. They also lost guyton an injury too, that's right, and he was year big third, the third receiver was awfully good. So he's stepping into a pretty good situation with Umbert. I'm trying to think. I was going to say Eiler. Yeah, so that that's not a

bad situation now, not at all. It's very glamorous as a matter of fact, as as everyone's talking about everyone's giving Herbert he's he's the next Patrick Mahomes already giving it to him. Yeah, and he's he hadn't even had to earn that yet. Okay, think about this though, all right, Kellen Moore is let me look at I gotta look

at my Chargers. All right, what you know what of what often happens is a coach goes someplace else and now he starts picking players in free agency from the team he just left, right, Dalton Schultz, Chargers, Tony Pollard, Chargers, they could be players for those free agents. Well, the Cowboys just need to make sure that Tony Pollard's not a free agent in there. It's there in it's in their power to do that, right, the hard part on

that one. And boy, we can spend a whole show on free agents, right, Um, we will be and maybe maybe next week we'll have the in between week for the Super Bowl? Right? Um? What's his market value? Because I just saw somebody you're Tark Pollard? Yeah, somebody ranked was NFL network, somebody picked their top fifty one free agents. The Cowboys have twenty of them, right, I think twenty of their top fifty one. No, no, no, the Cowboys have twenty free agents. Yeah. You jumped the gun on that.

And I think of all the guys the Cowboy has had it free agents only I want to say two of them were in the top fifty one and it was Polar and Schultz. So where are people what you think the market value is going to be for Tony Pollard? Is he a guy that's your lead running back, He's never done it before. That's a telephone. You're going to hand it to him twenty twenty five times a game for seventeen games? Or is he going to be used the way the Cowboys used him, which is very valuable,

But from a financial standpoint, what's the value for that? Right? Because for if you franchise him, it's ten point one million on a one year deal. So I'm sure his guy, whoever it is, is saying, Okay, whatever I if, whatever I sign for, I got to make ten million dollars this year, and I'm wondering if you know that's going to take place. I mean, but to me, the glaring thing is what about his injuries? What about surgery? How's he going to play after this? Right? Yeah, how's he

gonna feel? What's what's kind of mobility we have? We still haven't even talked about the second part of his injury, right, and that's the ankle. No, the ankle part, that's where the surgery was. Okay, they ended up not doing surgery to put a plate on the fibula, but the tibia and fibia down by the ankle were you usually have a high ankle spring is where they did the surgery. Um. So yeah, what you know, where's he at? Um? And then with Schultz, you know they franchised him. Once you

franchise him again, it goes from eleven million to fourteen million. Um, you're going to take a chance there. Do you like Ferguson pender Shot? I like him Hendershot, but I'm not sure if I like him as the league tight end. Yeah, and you don't know by the way, the Chargers they have Gerald Everett at tight end, who has one year left on his contract. He's he'll be twenty nine and he had had fifty eight catches this year. So and then Eckler has one more year on his contract. He's, uh,

he'll be twenty eight years old. Get me back to the tight ends. You know, that was a time when we didn't trust Scholtz that much either. You know, we had Jarwin and Schultz was the big you know, the big guy. That was when we want some blocking done, let's bring in Schultz. Then he turned into Jarling all of a sudden. He doesn't block as well, but he said he was surely catching that ball. He first came

into the year. We had Whitten too, right, So now why can't hender Shot or the other young man be developed like Ferguson. I mean I could see them being developed, both of those guys, right, very good. And then mckewan served a role too as a third tight end. Three right there, you have to McEwan. I don't think is gonna develop to be all around Ferguson as the chance and and hender Shot as especially as receiving. You know, you can see both of them being a pretty good tandem.

And they can blocker and both of them can block. So it'll be interesting to see how other people value him, right, What were they willing to pay him? Because he's he's not kittle, right, He's not that type of tight end, but he's solid. He's not he's solid though, but he's solid. He is solid. Yeah, I mean he's gonna you know, the last this last game, but unusual. But he has

always been dependable. I mean he's made it some plays, of course, some mistakes like anybody else, but he's always been somebody that your quarterback can depend on for that outlet. See that last game kind of stigmatize. Yeah, I know, you don't you hate. I didn't even want to bring it up. It's not the last game, it's the last series of the last Yeah, I don't want to for him the whole the whole offense, right, everybody just thinks

back to that game. They forget what they had done offensively the whole season despite the interceptions, right, and in spite them, and we're talking, we're talking shelter here. He has been as consistent as anyone in this on this receiving corps and made big catches, big catches, touchdowns time. Yes, yeah, you know, and the offensive line played decently, and then the playoff game, it's like, well what happened to the

offensive line? Well it becomes a money issue though, Yeah, And I mean, if all things are equal, and you you know, you don't have to be concerned about your salary, captain, Yeah, do you keep them to get people try? I mean, don't you want to keep Donovan Wilson? You know what's going to happen there? Definitely? Yes, yeah, we do right, right, And and you know vander vander esh and then what happens with Anthony Brown? Because you saw when you didn't

have them. What happened? You play two cornerbacks your last game, you're only two cornerbacks run and you saw yesterday. Still, my guy, you saw the Chiefs game yesterday. They lose the cornerback early in that game to a concussion. You see the kid that had interception on the tip pass. Fourth round rookie Joshua Williams out of Fayetteville State had the interception. The AC champion was the one that tipped it. But the guy that ed Kie and the Cook, Bryan Cook,

he's a he's a rookie safety place septop yesterday. That's right, that's secondary's really stepped up to the Chiefs yesterday. But the point is you need and it's an old saying in the league, you can't ever have enough cornerbacks. Well, the Cowboys ran out of I've never heard that before. I never heard that before. That's not what Gil Brent said when we were negotiated. And as we close here, yes, okay, the end of that Kansas City game, Uh, sad, sad.

Joseph hate, I hate, I hate endings like that. Yeah, and Joseph Osi out of Texas. What a good kid he is. I mean, he is a great person, and he was just and he was playing, and he was playing so well and so hard. He was you know, he was in my big green notebook going into last year, and then he didn't get much playing time. I don't know if he's heard or whatever, and so I was just very pleased to see here late in the season

and in that game and in the place. Right before that they were talking about how what a great game. He's all over the place. Yeah, and then that happens time the game was over. I knew who he was everybody where. He sat on the sidelines long enough for every man, and you know, like, man, get in the let's go to the locker room. Don't let them break

you down like that. You know, that's not the that's not the visual that you want when they think, okay, this guy what was his name again, Joseph, Oh that's not oh side, when you think about side, that is not the visual you want everyone to see by him, like the last guy to feel like that. I've been there to put the Cats game. I took my butt in the locker room. Last what to do but be out there looking around like, oh, what was me? No?

Get your butt in the well? He kind of hurt himself too well, yeah, he got hurt on the boy also, and a little bit my homes sold it too well. It looked worse in real time, yes, but then as you saw the free the replay, it's clear clearly out of bounds. But it's clearly it wasn't as eguigious as it looked. Yeah. Well, and the other thing is it was like, I mean, it's easy, and then he goes flying into Yeah, the man over there that got rolled up. And I don't know, and I don't know if Osai

has a history of late hits out of boundary. I mean, there are guys that play that we see on a regular basis that yeah, okay, he did it again. Okay, And what the Bengal fans may may be saying, osa, oh there's Osai and did it again. I don't know. But it's so much easier when we're watching on television and we see where that sideline is, or we're up in the press box and we're we're looking down from where we're not running ninety miles an hour across the

field and see what the low bounds is. And as he explained after the game, his goal was to get him pushed back like forward progress. His goal was to get there fast enough to where they would count him as being down in bounds. So I was gonna say, oh, I thought you were flashing. It was time to go anyway. Rinded me and my mother when I was sitting in the drivingway with somebody in the chief story, we gotta go, all right, don't continue Next Monday at eleven am here

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