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and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club Cowboys. This is Mick shot screening live on Dallas Cowboys dot Com and the official Dallas Cowboys At now Here are Bill Jones, Everson Walls, and Nicky Spagnola, and the road the Super Bowl fifty eight in Las Vegas begins now here on mix shots inside the SWBC podcast studio Bill Jones along with Mickey Spagnola and Mickey I feel like we should have had stampede to start this show because because an Eagles non victory,

in my opinion, is at Cowboys victory in the Super Bowl on Sunday. You know what. There you go, and I'm hoping Dallas, we're Cowboys better than them lousy Eagles things that's stuck in my stuck in your crowd really bad. Well, we got much to get to over the course of the next forty five minutes to an hour, and we may go an hour in forty five minutes. Sometimes there's

karma in the world. Got what you deserve. There you go, and we are obviously are here inside the st BBC podcast studio and on location in a remote spot somewhere in the world. Once again, there's ever some walls. If you must must know, William, I am in since city, Las Vegas. Oh care some business. So just in case you thought I was just at the gambut, I don't gamble. I however, do buy a lot of expensive dog gone food out here. Oh my god, this place a rip off.

Man be a break. So ever, since I was thinking he was in that that that that cell block that we saw last time, remember the brick wall, and I was thinking he got out. Maybe he's got something to do with these balloons flying over the country, you know. Ever, since you must admit that was an ugly situation that you speak of spags, thank you very much. I was ill prepared at that moment. I am ready this time, you see. I am in wonderful quarters here in Las Vegas.

All right, everything's fine. And also Bill, I must disagree with you. Yeah, sorry, Um, I know, I know we hate these guys. I know. My daughter is like, my daughter is like, oh, there's no way I'm pulling in them, because they would not pulling for us. And I could just see her work in her neck even though this was texting me. So now she uh was very happy that they lost. I was actually pulling, you know, you gotta pull up for the NFC east Man. You m, well, yeah,

you just pulled something. Because you just pulled something because we lost your voice. I don't know what just happened there. Ever, Everson, we we've lost audio with you there. Uh, there's that last comment. You may. I think that I just wonder if it could Everson be in Vegas a year from now? Oh? Yes, absolutely, he's a year early to be in Vegas. That's right, that's right, all right, So we'll get things. So I worked out with Everson there as far as his audio goes.

All right. So your first impressions of what happened on Sunday, do you want to start with the Philly fans booing dac Yes, absolutely, just kind of ruined the beginning of

the darn thing. Yeah. The whole lead up to the game was great, right, the stuff with um I get my days mixed up to maur Hamlin and h you know, the Thursday night then to get to him and regarding that as well, and they did it again and during the game, and you know, and all the music before the game and the lead up and then they you know, gonna introduced the guys that were selected the Pro Football Hall of Fame and brought out all the guys that

were nominated for the Walter Peyton Man of the Year Award, and then introduced Dak with the the trophy right there, and then they booed him. They booed him. Now, if I'm Dak, I'm thinking, Okay, Santa Claus and me, I'm pretty good coming right, Dak knew exactly right. Yeah he was. He was laughing, he was smiling at he should have done more, he should have started to wait whatever and

and and should have put up a four. Oh, we scored the most points against your team all season, and that's still the case, and it is Chiefs only got thirty eight. Yeah, I got thirty eight, right, they couldn't score forty. But you know, that's kind of what we thought was gonna happen. We both picked. I believe Kansas City to win, and I thought my homes would be the difference. And while Jalen Hurts was awfully, awfully good, Uh, my homes saved the day. All right. Ever, since, what

were your impressions of what happened on Sunday? I don't think he can still hear us. No, Nope, apparently not. Um. I laughed when the Philly fans. At first, I was like, oh, they're wait, they're booting, and then oh, no, those are the Phillies. That's what. I took me a while to figure out who was booing right, almost had to. I was like, what's Kansas City got against the Cowboys? You know, Lamar Hunt? I mean the Hunts live here, right, uh Clark Clark Hunt, Yeah, and yeah, yeah, so yeah, and

I said, oh, it's Philadelphia of course. But anyway, No, you know, a great game, um back and forth, and I think everybody thought it, you know, halftime that you know, down ten that Kansas City was you know, dead in the water, and you know, I was thinking, well, they've got the first possession. All you got to do is score a touchdown, right, and it's a three point game, so you know, there's still a lot of football left to be played. And everybody's like all the changes they

made the second half. Well, the change they made in the second half was they got the football. They only had the ball what eight minutes the first half eight they didn't have really had any possessions, so they scored and then they finally got um, they finally got and they and then even after they scored, they didn't get a stop. Right, it ended up still ten points twenty seven seventeen. So until the defense got some stops, Yeah, they were going to have problems because Philadelphia score in

every possession they had. They basically played a near perfect

second half offensively. Yeah, yeah, she astutely when and when you thought that Mahomes was toast right the way he was acting on the bench after the guy grabbed his ankle on the way down, it was like, oh not, Henny, They're not gonna have to play him, right, And this team's gonna not only knock out the third string quarterback in the NFC title game, now they're gonna knock out the league MVP and have to play a backup that hasn't played all year and probably didn't want to play

because immediately after the game he retired Chad. Henny. Yes, yep, we'll get Everson back here in a moment. So I'm gonna save the quote unquote most controversial play the call because I want to get Everson's opinion on it, since he's a defensive back, since he's a defensive back. I want to I want to hear what he has to say about that. But you know, you look back and h you know, obviously the Eagles had a great season, but I was looking back at had a conversation with

someone last week about who have they beaten this season? Right, And if you go back through their schedule, there's not a lot of Like if if you were the college football Playoff Committee and you were seating them number one, well just now they would have been one or two. But h but if you're looking like looking at okay, well what's their signature win? There weren't a lot of signature wins, meaning wins over really good teams this season

when over the Cowboys came with Cooper Rushes a backup quarterback. Course, they didn't have Hurts when the Cowboys had the return matchup and the Cowboys won that one right before Christmas. But you look at their seat the Eagles season and where they were at one point. They were thirteen and one coming into the Dallas game on Christmas Eve and since then now understand the Hurts was hurt and they lost a couple of games there, but they wound up

going three and three their last six games. In contrast, look at the Chiefs. The Chiefs had three losses this season, and those losses were by a grand total of just over ten points. They were all three or four point losses, all three of them going back to Week three of the season. Some of them were earlier. Yeah, Week three of the season, they lost to Indianapolis twenty to seventeen. Week six, they lost to Buffalo by four twenty four to twenty and so they were four and two at

that point of the season. And then their only loss the rest of the season came December fourth at Cincinnati, that twenty seven twenty four loss. So this is a team that not only one and at that point of the year they were nine and three. So they wind up seventeen and three. They won their last eight games, and they won twelve of their last thirteen games. That's how well the Chiefs have played this season. So why do you think everybody was thinking that the Eagles were

going to win and they were their favorites. Willem's injury that perhaps, but it became a narrative all season because the Eagles had gotten off to such a great start this season that they are the team to beat, right and then they kept you know, they'd lost Hurts for a couple of games, and so but they still they had such a lead in the division, they were able to win the division and have the number one seed, and so they were still the perception was still, well,

the Eagles are the team to beat, without really digging into the details of their season and so forth. But and you know in Kansas City, asked Travis, Kelsey pointed out the time and time again, you know, no one other than someone in this room had picked Kansas City to win the Super Bowl. He never met me and Bill Jones at the beginning of the season, and you pick Changes City to beginning season, I believe. So okay, it was. And the reason no one picked him was

because they lost Tyreek Hill right and Brett Veats. Their GM did a great job of in the off season and even during the season acquiring Kadarius Tony the Giants and was one of those picks. You know how many snaps Kadarius Tony played in the game, not many? Six on offense, yeah yeah, and then his special teams and had the big sixty five yard but return his his production per snap, Yeah, he was close to be in the MVP, right, that was a heck of him. He

Darius Tony is basically their Gavante Turbos. Yeah, and made a difference. And I would have thought that there had been a punt return longer than that in Super Bowl history. Yeah, I was surprised to hear that. And what was it sixty sixty five yards? Yeah? So, but yeah, they had guys step up. I mean the first half, I don't think we knew who their receivers were if you think

about it. Um, I didn't look at the stats on the first half, but um so other than Kelsey with three catches, McKinnon running back had two um and then one two catches. It's Gray. Gray was a tight end night. So the wide receivers had two catches at the end of the first half, but they didn't have the football right how many? And they're one of their two touchdowns was on a fumble return by the Missouri Tiger and first of Nick Bolton, they had a football player, by

the way, hitting it up with nine tackles. If if a defensive guy needed to be the MVP, he was pretty darn close, right, nine tackles he had right down the road here in firstco They had twenty plays in the first half, that's it. Twenty seven of them were runs. So yeah, there was a reason. I don't know how much they changed the second half. They everybody said, well they came out and ran the ball. Well, okay, they

didn't have a chance to run the ball the first half. Right, we knew going in the Pacheco could give them problems, and he did. That was your guy, right for your pick to click, and they got him going and then things started, you know. But still even though they scored, Philadelphia came back and scored, and it was twenty seven seventeen.

All right. We got Everson on the phone now, and Everson, I don't know if you how much you've been able to listen to what we've been talking about, but I wanted to save the whole defensive holding call to get your opinion before we discussed it. Of course, it was the key play of the game. Down the stretch, James Bradberry called for the defensive hold on Juju Smith Schuster as a cornerback. What was your take on that call? You know, it was definite the Cowboys fight for the

Niners game. When you're talking about Donovan Wilson, you know, once you get in that area. Uh, sometimes the referee this is just not gonna walk. Oh there we go say that one more time ever since because we lost you for just a second. The referee, you don't understand that they're not supposed to be a part of the game when you're talking about being in that crucial situation. I'm sorry, I did not think it was a passionfence call. I barely thought Donaldan Wilson's was a passion offense call.

You have to be able to somehow, um uh control your space as a defensive player, even if you're covering a wide receiver. You understand what I'm saying. They tend to act as if we're playing shadow a shadow game. You still have a tense your space and you still have a chance to have some contact so that you can maintain the leverage that you have on that receiver. You have to give them that chance. And I thought

that was a crappy call. Well, I thought the first grab is what he got called for, not the set, not the left hand. It was the right hand when he tried to keep him from reversing field on him. So, I mean brad Berry said afterwards it was a hold he was trying to hold. He didn't hold very well. I think that might have been the problem. But again, well I would have to say that in the words

of a never mind. Yeah right, But I agree with you Everson on and I thought exactly of the George Kittle a play against Donovan Wilson in the Cowboys game, and the problem that I had with that one was I think Kittle purposely was trying to draw the foul on a third and eight play, And of course that was a player where DeMarcus Lawrence got the sack huge play in that game and he so it was an Academy Award winning acting performance from Kittle that he got held.

And so I hated in that situation to see an offensive player be rewarded for something he was intentionally trying to do. There. I don't know what Donovan Wilson's supposed to do in that situation when he goes right into the game. When you have a game that was being played as well as both of those games have been played, you have to know as the referee beforehand, you know, we got to kind of let things play out here because the games are being played so well at an

excellent pace and it was exciting. So now for you to come in after really not hard of being in existence, you didn't really see many I don't recall a lot of apivoties in the game, and now you want to make a difference back to me, it is just bad optics.

And and I think that an official, and I know this probably goes against the officials handbook or whatever, but I think they have to have an awareness of the situation in the game and the fact that's yeah, that is that is a third down play that if in is and in this case in this game, that is a third down play that if they get that first down, if you make that call, you have just effectively ended this football game. And that that's exactly what that play did.

It ended the game because Kansas City still would have kicked a field goal. You're assuming, right, it was going to be even if they had not gained any more yard thirty thirty yards, you were giving them an opportunity. But I'm saying, with the first down, then then they're bringing the clock all the way, then they would have had the opportunity. Uh what there would have been about

two of less than a minute. You don't make that call and um, and they're kicking a field goal and uh presumably so the next place started at one forty eight, so there would have been one forty five left for Hurts to make. And the other part of it is Mahomes throw to Juju if there was not a hold on no contact whatsoever the throw to Juju, there was no way they were completing that pass him so much. Yeah, and the hole took and it was a hold, so it took place before he threw the ball. I think

he just brought loaded. He he might have seen the flag to go down. But here's the right yeah, okay, yeah, but but here's like Brady like that. Here's what everybody. Here's the other thing. Okay, So tell me this. Do you think Goddard's foot was down as he re established the catch on that ball on third and fourteen when they reviewed it, because that allowed them to kick a field goal, right, that continued that drive on that play that was reviewed. I still don't think that foot was

still down when he bobbled the ball. He was third and fourteen at the Kansas City forty seven. They're punny, right, And when you saw the replay, people on so the sideline officials that they're not on the part of the crew. They're the sideline guys, right, they're both telling the other team, yeah,

it's going your way. Because at one point the Eagles are going they're celebrating like it's a catch, and then the next thing you know, Kansas City's walking up the field like it's going to be a punt, and then they decided that they were going to hold it as a catch. I don't think it was a catch, but no one's talking about that, you know. And I'll give Sirianni.

He's kind of irritating, but I'll give him credit after the game when when he had to answer the question about the hold, he said, there was a lot of other plays in the game that helped decide the outcome. And I give him credit for that because he's right. Everybody forgot because that play took place with six thirteen left in the third quarter. Everybody forgot about that catch. That wasn't a catch. The guy was out of bounds, he only had one foot down, but that that was

three points. It take those three points away, and you know it's a different outcome. So I think tip for tap there. Well, let me say this to fully take a break. I got cut off talking about how you know, we should really pull for the NFC East, and my last statement was, you guys should stop acting like some freaking children. No, we're acting. We're acting like the Eagles fans. Okay, I love it all right, we continue with more mix shots.

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How about one more on the game? Okay, well you got on your legal pad, my legal pad a lot on mahomes on when you thought he was done and comes back and played at the level he did and ran the football. I thought it was absolutely fantastic that And you know what, I'd ever realized that that the MVP of the season had lost nine straight games and Super Bowls and he ended up being the first one that broke the string, broke that string that he doubled.

And boy, and hare's my other thing. How do these how do these teams get wide receivers so wide open? Is it play design? A couple of instances in yesterday's game it was play design. Well, both of those touchdowns late for Kansas City, right when they had the Tony and it was he was in motion and then doubled back and they couldn't they couldn't come back them. Yeah,

then sky Moore kind of the same thing. What if you recall guys, I think we did the same thing to them, uh this year as well for the secondary getting confusion right from that bunch formation and the red if I'm not mistaken as well. So and but even how do you how do you how do you let DeVante Smith wide open? Like that he lived in Kansas City? I mean, did you cover the guy? You know? Where

is the safety man? Um? I was unbelievable that I was gonna really uh good at what you said tag uh my homes, you know, I always did like my homes, but still thought that people just gave him still too much credit, even though I think he's amazing, you know, but sometimes you know, I was just thinking enough enough. Uh.

This year it was different for me. You know, when he get he lost Tibi hill Um, you know it, I really thought that he was going to be affected by that, especially the way the season started for them. I was really, you know, just wagging my finger like, okay, there you go. And I saw him when in plays that were really ugly, in games that really really ugly for the Candid the Chiefs, and it was because of

him that those games were pulled out. And I mean, of course, you got your affristers round, they kind of keep him out of there. But he's breaking the pocket, he's using his legs, and for him to play in this Super Bowl, you know, I don't want to overblow it, but you guys, remember what to did right that time when his leg was broken. That was some amazing stuff, guys.

I mean that was some superhuman stuff. You know, we give a lot of people a lot of credit these days, but what he did in that game with superhuman stuff, and like he said about my homes fact, I did not think he was going to be a factor with his legs at all. There's no way I could see it. You know. I thought he was just being one of those guys that, you know, trying to show what kind of leader is. No, he is that leader because he

came back and made a difference and it hosts. He's come back and made a difference in almost every game by just him being uh im prompt too, you understand. Yeah. To me, that's heart. That's that's heart, and that's leadership stuff. To me right now, he's really one of the guys that really kind of deserves all of that that stuff. That said blown, I think he should carry that slade, you know. I when here was the other thing about

Kansas City. They made such a big deal of the Philadelphia front and their seventy snap sacks they got zero. Somebody on that offensive line had to play pretty well for Kansas City, and I don't recall them ever mentioning anybody's name on their offensive line. Like we heard all

about Kelsey and you know the Philadelphia front. They ran for one hundred and fifty eight yards on Philadelphia on that front, So somebody on that offensive line had to play pro About the former Oklahoma Sooner or Cree Humphrey at center and almost center, Orlando Brown at left tackle, I think they are time they mentioned him is when he was there a penalty or something or false start maybe, but they never mentioned anything. How about these two, how

about these lines? How about these two offensive lines. And when you look at and that's something I started charting early in the season because you crossed the league. There were so many injuries on the offensive line, including here in Dallas when Tyman Smith goes down before the season even started. This season, the Philadelphia Eagles and the Kansas City Chiefs, do you during the regular season how many starts did they lose from their starting five offensive linemen

all season long? I think, like a good lawyer, Bill knows the answer to that. Eagles, that's right. The Eagles missed three starts from their starting offensive line all season. Two of them came late in the year Lane Johnson, and they had one other miss start. And the Kansas City Chiefs had three miss starts on their offensive line. Both these teams with three miss starts on their offensive line all season. You go with the Cowboys Tyrn Smith, he wound up starting four games in the regular season,

so he missed thirteen starts. There, Terrence Steele wound up missing four starts. He played thirteen games, and then he even lost starts. Yotish one start from Beyottish and and McGovern missed two starts, and so even and McGovern wasn't one of those first five that I'm talking about. So it makes a big difference because teams cannot invest in

their backup offensive lineman. The salary cap won't allow it, which is why when they did all the commercials for the USFL and the XFL, that's where they'll have problems often they don't have enough offensive lineman. Well, as you talk about off this linement, that kind of gives me a platform to talk a little trash to you guys. Oh and that would be then as you look at how this season turned down, I was just really I said a few things, you know, during the season. I

didn't really make a big deal about it. You know, I never really make a big deal about anything. It's just not my style. So anyway, I really want to just wag my finger at you guys and tell you I told you so about how if Jalen Hurst was to receive an offensive line, he was going to be a problem. I said that after our first game against Philadelphia.

I believe that was the one at home, and he threw this ball from out of bounds, going out of bounds, going to his right, and I believe Davis, you know, it was perfect, and David went up and called it. It was no, by the way, touchdown. But I told you guys, he will be doing a lot more bad if he only had an offensive line. And if Bill doesn't stop powering about the Lawton championship. Oh my god,

give this dude from love man. What national championship? Well, the playoffs, the playoffs, the playoffs in college Oklahoma national championship had nothing to do with Jayalen hurts. Well, you have been mad at him ever since that year. No, he has developed a lot more. Better give him, Please give No, he's I think he's always had the talent. I think that since he was at Oklahoma. I think Philadelphia has done a great job developing him as a passer in this league. Um, he was mainly running the

football when he was at Oklahoma. I give a lot of credit. You know. Well, And at one point in the game, greg Olson started touting jay Len and his

journey to this point. And there was one part and he talked about him overcoming adversity, you know, at Alabama, what happened to him at Alabama, then transferring to Oklahoma and then into the NFL as a second round draft pick and not a starter initially, and all that but I think the most I think what I give him credit for, especially in this environment in college football, more

than anything was when he left Alabama. He didn't leave Alabama right after he got pulled out of that national championship game and too led him to the national championship. He stayed another year at Alabama. It wasn't like he got mad and then well, I'm I'm gonna go find some other place to play. He stayed at Alabama and he got I believe he got his degree at Alabama. And then actually the next year he had to come in in the SEC title game when TWA got hurt

and lead Alabama on the football field. But that says a lot about the character of Jalen Hurts that, Okay, when times went bad, what you're seeing across college football right now as well, I'm okay, they don't like me here, I'll just show them. I'll just go someplace else. And Jalen didn't do that. He stayed at Alabama and completed his time there, and then it became the right time to transfer. That's when he, with the blessing of Nick Saban,

went to Oklahoma. And I thought that I talked that just like you and brought up though, and like I said, we really gated your platform. We you know, we talked about their office in line allows him to have the poise that he has shown throughout the entire year. And let's be I've been realistic about that, and you know, and the way they have developed everything around him, man,

almost everything was perfect for it to succeed. Well. He developed as a pocket passer too, because he wasn't that good at Oklahoma and he wasn't that good his rookie year. He really worked at it, and I give him credit for that. One of the guys post game was hell. It was a post game interview with him, and one of the guys I can't remember who said, it's like, well, he's going to be our first fifty million dollars a

year quarterback. And you know he's going into his third, third year this year, this next year, right, He's that's three, right, So he's doing some money pretty soon. And it had a second round draft pick, don't they don't have that fifth year option, right? And I just saw I also saw that Philadelphia, oh, by the way, has twenty unrestricted free agents too. So all of a sudden, the one thing I always thought was very different about Jaylen as well.

Do you remember when Matthew Stafford was on the stage after they had celebrated, uh, the Super Bowl win and as he was leaving, the lady was right there in front of him, and she fell off the off the stage. Y'all remember that. I do not. And Matthew was he saw it. Mike was right in front of like five street in front of him, and so she fell off the stage. It was pretty far and he kind of looked at her. I think he was a little catchy and he kind of looked at her like, oh, wow,

that's my stuff. Right, So he went the other way. So I'm not falling off the stage, Yeah right, Well I'm not gonna go to help either, And so just the difference between between that and Jalen Hurts was coming into the locker room after a win in Philadelphia and the fans were really trying to get his autograph and I was down and they leaned over too far and the rail collapsed, Yeah, right in front of him, right,

And you know this is cool as whatever. He just beens over the other more people up take a picture of him, and he goes to the locker room to that's the difference between the quarterback. Humble as he is. She's always been that humble guy. That's what you speak to. Spoke too early. He has always been a humble guy, good things the right way. And by the way, just to clarify on Hurts, he's going into his contract year.

This is his fourth season coming up. He was he was drafted in twenty twenty second round pick, and so he's going in. That's why they brought it up. Yeah, and so so you know, darn well, this doesn't want him playing in his head. Ye, what the Eagles did this year with their roster and acquiring, making all those trades and signings and so forth, they have no money. Now this was their year, and they knew this was their year, and now they got to start paying that quarterback. Well,

they were offended. I guess they can. They can do his contract where he's got another year where they got some salary flexibility. But it's about to it's about to hit big time for them. They were offended. At Stephen Jones pointed that out. They got all mad. All right, we gotta take a break, wait one last before we break, okay,

because we're gonna do this other stuff. I don't know if you guys stayed with the postgame shows, but on Fox they went to Fox one or whatever, and Sean Payton was part of the panel and they were talking about the Chiefs starting this dynasty and Sean Payton goes, he goes, you know, he goes, Andy Reid's got two super Bowls, He's been pretty successful. Mahomes has been successful. He goes, I think it's about time that, you know. Andy just says, Okay, that's enough and retire. And the

guys on the panel finally caught it. They were looking at him wild eyed, right, and they go, oh, you're in the same division. It was pretty good. He was pushing that Andy retire. All right, let's talk cowboys at the Super Bowl and in the Hall of Fame when we come back on mix shots. We paid how much for those lessons? She's doing great? Oh yeah, totally. Can you pass me a pepsi zero sugar? Great job, honey, Oh look at that. That's not the end, no way.

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half months away. Yes, the combines a couple of weeks away. Free agency is a month away. Things are kicking off big time. We can grow, oh gratefully please, No, Hey, there's a reason I've got the big Green notebook ready to go here the next three months, that's where I'll be spending a lot of time in my big Green notebook, and the details of that will reveal partially as we go along here on mix shots week to week. That

might have been my favorite commercial on NFL. Now you're gonna have to let us know what you're pointing at. Mickey on the will and distractable player making a commercial with the flag football the young lady from Mexico that they couldn't pull her flag. She'd being interviewed right now, okay, NFL network. It was pretty funny. She ran all the way home. Everybody's trying to pull her. You remember were you.

I did not watch any of the commercial anyway, and she she avoided everybody that she got to her house and her mom was like grad to see her, and her mom went to go grab her flag. She goes not now, but there I did hear. I did see reviews on social media. Yeah, on the that was a good one. The flag football commercial. Yeah, all right, okay, let's get into you want to get into Hall of Fame? Yes, okay,

and congratulations who Chuck Halley, DeMarcus Ware. I'll throw Zach Thomas into the mix two as he finished up his career. And I just love did Knock on the Door special that the NFL Network and Pro Football Hall of Fame does every year, And it's really neat when they when they find out they're going into the Hall. Yeah, and uh, you know, I I was torn because I knew DeMarcus Ware is going to get in, right, if he didn't

get in this year, he's getting in next year. But I knew if he got in, and you knew Chuck Holly wasn't going to get in, then Darren Woodson didn't have a shot. Right, They're not going to put three cowboys in in the same year. Just not gonna happen. And unfortunately for Darren, he didn't get in. But again, right, yeah again, and but you know good DeMarcus got in.

It was his second time, and finally the Pro Football Hall of Fame righted a probably forty five year wrong with Chuck Holly should have been in a long time ago. I believe the first time he was eligible was nineteen seventy eight. Nineteen seventy eight, all these years and one of the best football players in Cowboys history from back

in that era was still not in. So the fact that he got in, I think, I don't know how you guys felt, but I felt like it was pretty bitter sweet sweet that he got in, but sort of bitter that he got in after. I don't know if he can appreciate it. I agree with his son. I talked to his son, Scott Holly the day after, and I said, do you think do you think he knows? Do you think he understands what happened? And he goes? You know at times I think maybe a little bit,

but I just don't know he goes. The only time I think he reacted to it was John McClane's on the Senior committee, the reporter writer from Houston now that yeah, he's retired and he's on the senior committee. Rick Goslin, and he said, uh, John was the one that came to the house when he made the finals to let the family know, to let his dad know, And he said, you know, John was explaining it to him and he said,

my dad. And in case everybody I think this was we were in training camp and Chuck Holly is the later last stages of dementia. Uh, you know, he barely can walk. He's having trouble speaking more than a couple of words. And so when when John came and told him, Scott said, I don't I don't think he understood. And he goes and I left and he goes. A little bit later, I got a call from our caregiver that's been with Dad for a long time, and he said I was trying to explain to him. He said, to

your dad, you know what this all meant? That you know you're you're probably going into the Hall of Fame, and he said. He finally looked up at me, the caregiver, and his eyes lit up, and he said, I guess I'm gonna have to get a new suit. And so maybe he understood. Now it's a matter of how long he can retain that understanding, because I think if you saw it, the knock on the door at his house was from Roger Staubach to come in and explain it to him, and I think he kind of got a

little bit of a smile. Yes, he did not thought. I thought that there was a look on his face that he got it, he understood what he was saying. Yeah, but well nothing Roger being I'm sure he thought it was something right, Well, you know what important, Scott said. A bunch of the gold Jacket guys showed up. Bob Lilly was there, Cliff Harris was there. I think now these weren't these were Leroy Jordan other and then Charlie

Waters was there, Drew Pearson. So they all kind of showed up for the thing to make a big deal out of it. So so, you know, I hated asking the question, but he was. Scott was so nice and he was the one by the way. They went on stage too. When Chuck Holly was introduced, that was his son, and I said, so do you think he can make it to the induction ceremony? He goes, I don't know. He said, it's gonna be really tough because he has

sensory overload. Like if there's a lot of noise and there's a lot of things going on, he doesn't deal with it too well. So that's always the shame when those older guys like that get in at such a late stage that they can't really appreciate it, but it was well. I was his son was great about it though, cool cool. I was, of course upset again about Woodie. Yeah, you know what I mean. If I can't make at

least somebody can making him, damn thank god. So you know, I've been pulling for for a while, especially when you told me how many times fags that he has already filled. And when we had the Tom Lande Wards. You know, Uh, he's charming guy. He sat next to my wife during the time. He was so cool. She really got to like him, and man, she's as upset as I am now he didn't. So he has a fan in Rreal walls. He has a big fan in her and uh, you know, she's keeping the clock on him as long as she is.

You know. The amazing thing about Woody is that's the first time he's made it to the finals. He's always been you know what. And that was the deal with Scott talking about his dad that you know, for all these years, for a whole bunch of years, he always was on the battle ballot, right, but he never got past the semifinals. And he told me, you guys, and I wrote about it. He told me an interesting story.

He said, when he was in middle school and he realized all these other guys were getting in from the Cowboys and his dad was being left out. He said, I wrote a letter to the Pro Football Hall of Fame explaining my dad's qualifications and why he should be in it, and he said, he said, they sent me

a letter back. They wrote him back he was like twelve thirteen years old, and explained to him that he'd been a semi finalist for fourteen years but never really made it to the next round, or however many years it was. I don't think it was fourteen, but yeah, I thought it was pretty funny that he actually did that, and then when it finally happened, he was the one to go up there and represent his father when they

introduced the guys. Okay, now here's the other thing as far as the going forward with a Pro Football Hall of Fame, and of course we there were three senior finalists this year that all got in. Okay, twenty twenty three, and they've expanded it to three senior nominees or the potential for three senior inductees in the class of twenty twenty four and the Class of twenty twenty five. Also, so I don't know if there's anyone here in our present company who might be interested in that little note.

But uh, there there are company I already knew about. Right, I'm letting everyone else know. Don't tea darn. You're a senior. You're a senior already. And so, as I said on the air last night, okay, took care of business this year. Now, Woody and Everson here, Yes, let's do it. Let's go, and you know what, to emphasize my point to so the other two seniors that got in, Joe Pleco and then Ken Riley, who has already passed away, and he's already passed, don't wait till I was saying, just don't

wait till these wait so long for these older guys. Well, yeah, he never he never made a Pro Bowl pro? Is that true? Ken Riley? Ken? That part, that's what I heard. I think I heard that. I don't know that for a fact. I mean, you know he's been he said. I think it's Ken third. He has always been carrying the flag for his pops man. And you know that's just really a good deal. Kim By. I always was

a class act. And I say I say it all the time, to be able to uh strive and in situation in Cincinnati there wasn't the greatest situation at all, and to play his entire career there. I just thought it was an easy testament of what consistency and law tea was all about. I thought he really deserved better

when he was a lot. He was first team All Pro in nineteen eighty three, but no Pro Bowls and sixty five career interceptions for Ken Riley and that would be number five think so I think so yeah, So all right, last few minutes here, what what do you got to wrap things up here? And then and then I don't know about you guys, but I was somewhat surprised that Dak was named the Walter Peyton winner. Um got that award. I mean there's thirty I don't know, there was thirty one other guys. And you know, I

saw a couple other guys stories. Uh, I think it was Cam Jordan was was one of them. Um And I was like, oh wow, you know, some of these guys got some great stories. But the fact that Dak won it, UH very deserving obviously, UM And and I was just kind of happy for him right, just you know, all he's gone through and all the grief he's taken after the loss. Uh, for something good like that to happen, Um, I thought was it was a nice touch. Yeah, I was there before. I'm sure it was good to see that.

It kind of just quieted everything just a little bit rightly. Yeah, you know, something good came through and uh, you know, very bad and get off his back for one, even though there was a lot of backhanded compliments. And he is and that's why I stayed off social media on purpose. They didn't want to get pissed off. And he is the fourth former Cowboy to win the Man of the Year award, going back to Roger Staubach and then Troy Aikman, Jason Witten and now Dak Prescott. They're gonna have room

down the hallway. Yeah, expand that three shot to four. They've got to do something here at the Star there's there's a monument of sorts to the Man of the Year winners. Who knows. I haven't walked by there yet. They might have already done it. They may never know how quickly they can act. They may have all right, So we got a lot to get to in coming episodes of mix Shots, Free Shot. Free agency is going

to be huge. We're gonna have to dive through that with nineteen guys that they've got to deal with, and some of them very important to the success they had this year. And you can't resign everybody, but that's going This is going to be an important offseat and for this team, the most important thing that needs to happen this offseason. Everson Walls, what do you think it is?

Wide receivers and would not argue with you, and they think we need I think we need more playmakers, and you know, I dare say we need to start including not just uh Polo. I mean you never know what's gonna happen to him, but not just Polo in the passing game. But it needs to be consistent that our running backs really need to be receiving capable because we need as many options as we can get. You see how it worked out with even Jalen in the game.

There were times when you know he was on the run and everything's covered down field, he was able to pop it down checkdowns. Even with my homes. He saw the way they played my homes. That's the way Giants played Buffalo in nineteen ninety twenty five. We made sure that we just kept a big playdown the Mahoma still

limited to find him outlet out point guy. And speaking of wide receivers, and how about this Super Bowl champion team a year ago they lose Tyree Hill and free agency and what did they do to offset that loss? Not only in free agency, but in the draft they focused in on wide receivers. They also lost to Marcus Robinson, who had started ten games for them last year at

wide receiver. He signed with Vegas last last offseason. And so what they do They signed a couple of free agents and Juju Smith, Schuster, Markus Valdis Scantling and in the second round they drafted Sky Moore. And even during the season they pick up Kadarius Tony gave up a third and a sixth for him during the middle of the season. Well, doctor Darius to man about lucky job. Yeah, I'm thinking the Giants aren't real happy with that performance. It's like, oh, and we had that guy, but you

know what, he was always that guy. It's like was always something with him, right, he was he was our Oh my god, what about the Yeah, Kevin Joseph. Yeah, he tell yeah, not do it. Yeah, you're not doing boy. He sure got out of the Eagles way, I'll tell you that. And we're gonna get out of Chris Beamley producer Supreme's way. Now as we're in our last minute, it's lunchtime. It is lunch time here. I'm sitting here another minute, dam and I'm not doing all right. No

free lunch for you today ever? Sing here? All right? Uh? And we'll how about we do this again next Monday at eleven am. What do you think? Real good? I will be there in person, all right and close us out. Ever since Cowboys This has been a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club